The Shadoe Davis Show - August 20th⧸2026- Guest： Jon (Right Blend) Villeneuve Talking Helen Grus

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00:03:00.000 hello everybody welcome to the shadow david show this is thursday august the 20th 2026 on the show

00:03:13.640 tonight i'm hoping that our friend john villanue decides he wants to pop on we talked about this

00:03:18.640 a couple of days ago tuesday was the final sentencing of detective well i guess former

00:03:24.640 Detective Helen Groose in Ottawa. John covered that story and got some video for us and always

00:03:30.900 has some insight. So hopefully he pops on in the next couple of minutes. He knows what time he's

00:03:36.920 supposed to be here. So we'll get him on before the top of the hour. We have some other things

00:03:42.500 that we can discuss tonight as well, including the liberal blacklist of Convoy supporters. This

00:03:48.960 was just released last week, and there are very few people talking about this. But here it is

00:03:55.740 from Juneau News. The Liberals' blacklist of convoy sympathizers shared with thousands of

00:04:02.200 corporations. A 2023 inquiry of the ministry tabled in the Commons said the RCMP also sent

00:04:08.580 the blacklist to Canadian agents of foreign institutions like the Bank of China. So that

00:04:16.820 will be coming up in conversation a little bit later on of course there's the u.s canada trade

00:04:22.020 deal which dominic leblanc the minister of u.s trade says is very very close it has to be because

00:04:27.940 trump put a 72-hour hiatus on the 50 percent tariffs he was going to drop on us late tuesday

00:04:34.420 night wednesday morning and if there is no deal by what is it friday at midnight or saturday at

00:04:40.580 midnight, I get all that mixed up. I'm sorry, man. I haven't been able to keep track of dates

00:04:47.100 like that since I worked all nights in radio years and years ago. But if there is no deal by tomorrow,

00:04:53.560 Donald Trump will lower the boom on those 50 percent tariffs. So we have that to look forward

00:04:58.540 to. If the premiers decide they don't want to remove the liquor from the shelves or put the

00:05:03.860 liquor back on the U.S. liquor like the bourbon and all of that stuff. And David Eby refuses to

00:05:09.440 confirm if B.C. will put U.S. booze back on the shelves. All of that is coming up a little later

00:05:15.740 on in the show tonight. Apparently, Mark Carney had a meeting with the premiers either yesterday

00:05:22.440 or early this morning and was this close to begging them, as Wob Canoo, the premier of

00:05:29.480 Manitoba, put it, begging them to put the booze back on the shelves. And I don't think it's that

00:05:37.240 important to Trump and Jameson Greer? I don't. What I think is that Trump knows that Canada is

00:05:44.180 divided on this. He knows Alberta and Saskatchewan never removed the U.S. booze from the shelves.

00:05:49.860 And he's waiting to see Carney plead and beg with his own premiers to put the booze back on the

00:05:56.040 shelves. Ultimately, it's a drop in the bucket, but it's a point that Donald Trump is making. At

00:06:02.700 least that's my opinion. I see John has joined the show. So we're going to bring him on in just

00:06:09.720 a second. We'll be right back in one minute and seven seconds. Stay right there.

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00:07:02.700 oh here i am i'm just standing there it's the right blend show ladies and gentlemen

00:07:32.700 and i'm silent there's no there's no discussion on this show just standing there waving that's

00:07:38.840 like an episode of impractical jokers how you been my friend i'm fantastic i have to say that music

00:07:44.600 is fantastic i was really enjoying that i'm sad that you ended it it was great wow i'm i'm great

00:07:50.980 it's just a musical interlude you're looking good you're looking healthy uh give us a brief

00:07:55.720 update if you will on what's happened to you these past few months i know that you went in for

00:07:59.760 surgery to correct a defective heart valve from birth is that correct yes yeah that's what happened

00:08:05.880 and then it was just a bunch of recovery and life is getting better for me every single day

00:08:10.260 got a new job today I literally walked into a place that I haven't been in five years okay

00:08:15.600 haven't seen these people in five years walked into the place um and I was intending to say

00:08:21.140 hello to them I walked out with a job so I'll take it for now I'm getting another job in six

00:08:25.820 weeks but uh amazing people fantastic it's a lot of healing happening now even though you know we

00:08:31.520 go back to the times that we were in and how bad and how much animosity there was between people

00:08:36.220 and and uh just such a terrible time to be alive frankly but now like um getting back to some

00:08:42.920 things from the before times so it's very interesting indeed and i i feel blessed and i

00:08:48.380 feel blessed every day going for my walks things are things are great you know what it's like

00:08:52.200 you're looking good too sir well thank you my friend you know as you say it was a terrible

00:08:56.620 time to be alive but it was also a tremendous time to be alive because so much changed in a

00:09:02.620 positive way even though all the negative was surrounding us right we had dean allison on the

00:09:07.140 show last night the mp who is behind the allison inquiry i'm not sure if you had a chance to catch

00:09:11.620 that but he you know just go ahead just give me a quick second i'll be right sorry i just need 10

00:09:17.420 second all right you finish up with that thought dean allison dean dean allison was on the show

00:09:28.760 last night in case you guys missed that go ahead and check it out it's still up on facebook it's

00:09:33.860 on youtube it's on x i think still all the big social media platforms you can find me on and

00:09:38.880 it's also at shadow davis.com if you're not an all-access member i urge you to become one support

00:09:44.380 the show support independent media you can get a membership monthly or yearly uh like that welcome

00:09:49.660 back my friend what what the hell was going on dog problems i i forgot i forgot my plant

00:09:55.260 your plant yeah the background plant oh right

00:10:03.820 backgrounds are very important i totally understand that so uh allison dean allison was

00:10:09.180 on last night and it's amazing because we also had sean buckley on a couple of weeks ago and sean

00:10:13.740 is heavily involved uh well was involved with the nci and is now involved with the allison inquiry as

00:10:19.420 well as a volunteer he and his wife theresa are and so many people are applying to tell their

00:10:24.860 story there's only so much space but one thing they both made a point of saying on the show

00:10:31.180 is that there still exists a huge divide between the people that know and the people who are

00:10:38.940 completely in the dark and don't want to know. And that's why there's been no discussion. It's

00:10:45.800 almost like talking about a dead relative or something at a party, right? Like if you say

00:10:51.460 something wrong, then everybody stares at you in the room and eventually you become this big

00:10:58.420 and you have to backpedal and apologize. And that's how he kind of framed it last night.

00:11:06.060 And I thought, hmm, interesting. I believe we all have to become a little bit more brave when it comes to this, because nothing has been resolved in this country, at least, as to how that pandemic was handled. And all of the people who were injured by that vaccine are still out there, still looking for the medical support they need and for the truth to be told. What are your thoughts on that?

00:11:28.620 like you said they're still suffering there's been no remedy for them there's been no recourse

00:11:33.920 there's been no assistance right the government of canada is going out of its way to deny their

00:11:38.840 requests to stonewall their requests it's anti-science it's illogical and it's entirely

00:11:45.320 political right this is about being right not about doing right if that makes any sense it does

00:11:51.180 make sense that's all they care about they care about power and they care about being called

00:11:54.900 correct at the end of the day it doesn't matter that all these facts are coming out with fauci

00:11:58.840 and everything else that he knew about the cytokine storms in the uh in the uterus or

00:12:02.960 or what have you that he knew about these things that he was warning his personal friends about it

00:12:07.180 saying hey this could happen to you but out in front of the cameras he was saying you're pregnant

00:12:11.320 you're whatever you're vulnerable you have 16 heart surgeries go and get this i feel like if

00:12:16.240 i had done it i would have been dead i don't think i would be alive today if i had ever gotten it

00:12:20.800 yeah well you had heart issues right like right so but it wasn't just it wasn't diagnosed at the

00:12:27.120 time and i do believe that if i had gotten that thing that i wouldn't be here today

00:12:30.400 so i'm i'm very i stand by the decisions i made for myself as a person as a human being i have a

00:12:36.020 right to decide what uh experimental medical interventions i take um and i have a right to

00:12:42.320 weigh and be informed the the pros and cons and the unknowns the unknowns because let's face it

00:12:47.220 Even at this point, there's still so many, there's more unknowns than knowns.

00:12:50.560 There's no long-term safety data.

00:12:51.780 Long-term safety data is decades, not two or three or four or five years.

00:12:55.800 And, uh, this thing came on the market and they're like, it's safe.

00:12:58.260 It's here.

00:12:58.600 It's good to go.

00:12:59.400 Not, not true.

00:13:00.580 Not, we still don't know.

00:13:01.460 We won't know for the full scale of this for decades.

00:13:05.400 It will take decades to know.

00:13:06.780 We're not even, we're not even 20% of the way there.

00:13:09.980 Right.

00:13:10.220 Right.

00:13:10.460 We're so, so nonetheless, I totally agree with you.

00:13:13.300 I'm glad that people like Dean Allison and others are, are being brave enough

00:13:16.820 to put this forward i'm surprised that the conservative party is allowing this to happen

00:13:21.300 um because usually they're very they're very unist messaging and nobody else inside the

00:13:27.700 party is talking about this issue at all so i'm surprised that dean allison is allowed to do this

00:13:32.020 uh surprised he's not being sanctioned by the party i know that there's definitely people in

00:13:35.620 the party who want to see a scientific inquiry into this not an ideal ideological inquiry where

00:13:41.620 we're defending the the government narrative at any cost is has been the case up until this point

00:13:46.340 where it's like oh it's science it's just that it's not how science works science is about

00:13:50.180 objectivity and measurement and experiments which we haven't had right it's been this is the truth

00:13:55.940 you follow me or you're a heretic that's a religion not a scientific approach that's

00:14:00.100 not the scientific method that's a practice of religion and so it's a phenomenal to see 0.96

00:14:05.220 that dean allison has the cojones to step forward and to advocate for the like you said thousands

00:14:10.340 hundreds of thousands however many part one is too many uh seriously gravely injured or or even 0.97

00:14:16.340 maimed and killed by this intervention uh you know so these people need justice these people

00:14:21.560 need answers these people deserve a inquiry with power to uh subpoena and summon people's summon

00:14:28.040 people uh to appear to to do whatever and i don't believe that this will have that power because

00:14:32.360 it's not an area or whatever but it needs we need to get to the point where we're there and we need

00:14:37.260 to get to the point where we're not doing and speaking like mice but where we're we're standing

00:14:41.560 by our convictions and the things that are important and we made our decisions personally

00:14:45.640 for a reason these uh the loudest critics of of medical autonomy in this particular instance tend

00:14:51.640 to be those who scream the loudest about that for other issues but they can't seem to have it here

00:14:56.760 you have to be consistent with the application of your values i believe that i have been throughout

00:15:00.760 my entire time online and uh some people clearly aren't so what is it at the end of the day are we

00:15:07.240 going to be a scientific based society when it comes to making these types of scientific decisions

00:15:11.960 are we going to follow the evidence wherever it leads are we going to come to pre-drawn conclusions

00:15:16.760 and are we going to chase ideology are we going to punish dissident are we go uh dissent are we

00:15:22.440 going to control speech and i think unfortunately with all the laws and the things that are

00:15:26.520 happening we can see clearly what direction this country is sadly moving in at this time

00:15:30.760 you know it's interesting you say that because i think a large part of the u.s canada trade

00:15:35.960 negotiations the past few weeks have involved the digital aspect of things which i'm going to get

00:15:40.600 into in just a second michael geist wrote a great sub stack on this just today and i want to put

00:15:46.440 that up on the screen what's your take on the conservative party as it stands today there is

00:15:52.600 video of pierre polyev just yesterday endorsing the dairy cartel um getting behind supply management

00:16:01.000 and suggesting it's something that mark carney shouldn't put on the table in these trade

00:16:05.400 negotiations uh allowing more u.s dairy products into canada would be bad for canadian dairy and

00:16:13.400 to me that sounds very communistic for the leader of a conservative party to say well i think it's

00:16:21.640 important to understand the ideological differences in what a tory is and what a conservative is when

00:16:26.920 we do this in an american frame of reference whereas our political parties developed very

00:16:32.040 differently than the american parties so our cons our idea of a person on the right in canada

00:16:37.160 for example and historically has involved the rather big governments so the idea of using the

00:16:42.680 state power uh to advance um conservative values is one of the ways that you can think about

00:16:50.600 the canadian right-wing ideology in some ways and so but but more more than that though specifically

00:16:57.880 the use uh the protection of the dairy cartel is very important strategic decision when it comes

00:17:03.720 to places like quebec and and ontario and other and other such areas because the dairy cartel is

00:17:08.760 extraordinarily powerful they are it sounds silly when you say it out loud if you say the people who

00:17:14.040 make the bagged milk uh in the eastern canada anyways are some of the most powerful political

00:17:18.840 forces in this entire country if you say that out loud and you look someone in the face they're

00:17:22.680 going to think you're a maniac because how could people who bag milk have so much political power

00:17:27.320 but the fact of the matter is for one reason or the other and there's you know i'm not um learned 0.85

00:17:32.360 in this subject enough to quite understand how they got so damn deep into the roots of everything

00:17:37.960 but uh it's not just money there's there's there's a huge enormous amount of real power in that

00:17:43.560 cartel and that's a correct like that's something i i feel comfortable calling them that because

00:17:47.800 they exercise their power to the detriment of our of our trading relationships and supply management

00:17:52.920 i wouldn't i want to also say that i don't believe it's quite communistic um it's definitely big

00:17:57.560 government it's definitely you know managed economy um so i want to kind of point that out

00:18:02.840 it's definitely to the opposite of the american idea of republicanism and and libertarianism and

00:18:08.520 smaller government per se but in the canadian sense the canadian lens i think it's it's aptly

00:18:13.320 applied to either side of the aisle as we just developed quite differently politically right

00:18:18.520 It's not to say our conservatives, you know, the liberals are the liberals, they imported the liberalism, the American ideals, right? Our conservative people are of the loyalist descent, right? The people who believed in maintaining the monarchy and the institutions. And as the longer, this is a very interesting side discussion, which we definitely need to have with subject matter experts, but there's a very good reason why they believe those things.

00:18:44.100 things. And it's served Canada rather well for a time. And in the sense where it's like these

00:18:49.540 institutions have served us very well. We need to protect and strengthen them. And they keep us

00:18:54.580 unique. They keep us sovereign. There's a lot to that, which I can't go into in depth. Now,

00:19:00.400 that's an expansive, very difficult conversation that it deserves an extraordinary amount of

00:19:08.100 consideration in the discussion. And it's a very interesting subject. It's not entirely where we

00:19:12.780 are today but this is just a long line now the real reason that pierre is doing this is because

00:19:17.280 of the quebec risks because of the risks that this enormous power has uh to already a rather

00:19:22.940 weak electoral position right so the popular and easy thing to do uh concerning the lobbying forces

00:19:27.940 at play here is to say the uh the the the milk management the bag the bag milk people but the

00:19:35.240 reality of the situation is as i said it hurts our trading relationships that we are we are when we

00:19:40.860 go into any negotiation we come from a position where we say these things are off the table now

00:19:46.240 if we think about that objectively what benefit does that have to our country where we are

00:19:50.640 sacrificing leverage and negotiation by saying from the beginning before we even start talking

00:19:56.440 there will be no discussions of dairy there will be no discussions of this that or the other thing

00:20:00.600 we are we are sacrificing leverage for those things what interest does that serve canada

00:20:05.900 nationally, not very minuscule, minuscule. I think we benefit from having the competition

00:20:11.500 of American cheese here, to be honest, for not like three times, whatever the amount of the

00:20:16.020 price is, right? It's extraordinarily expensive to buy American dairy. And besides that, it's also

00:20:22.680 the, with Pierre, like, as you know, I was supportive of the conservative during the

00:20:27.220 election. So I want to mention this before I pass it back. And I did that because I believe that

00:20:31.340 they were the best at the time. Obviously, I don't agree with every policy they had, nor that they

00:20:35.880 have now i'm very disappointed in some more than others and i've made some of those frustrations

00:20:41.360 quite known um my experiences with pierre pauliev personally though when i would see him interacting

00:20:46.800 with the crowd i was i was impressed enough that he did the basic things that any leader should

00:20:53.760 where they at least pretend to connect with people pretend to care about people i think he

00:20:59.720 was genuine but i'm saying this is the bare minimum that any person who wants to be a leader of

00:21:04.240 anything one second john before you continue we're getting a garble a kind of a cyclical garble in

00:21:10.200 your audio there's a way that we can repair that just a little bit yeah it seems like every

00:21:15.480 60 seconds or so it's and you're saying some great stuff you're making some excellent points

00:21:22.440 and i don't want to miss anything well i i don't know if i'm not technically inclined so i don't

00:21:27.280 know if i can correct that it's there's a hundred thousand things at play here you know how if you

00:21:31.680 pop out and pop back in again i'll bet you that the whole thing will be fixed let's give that a

00:21:37.120 shot here yeah i don't have that made in radio voice let's see uh where's this window at i can't

00:21:43.520 even find it i'm so incompetent here should be right in front of your face there my friend down

00:21:49.840 there okay so you're gonna wait for him to come back it could only be a matter of time

00:21:55.200 and it's a shame because interrupting that i was going to say conversation but it wasn't really a

00:22:02.080 conversation it was a monologue that john was doing and it was absolutely fabulous i do have

00:22:07.200 some counterpoints to make obviously but um i want to hear more of what he has to say so

00:22:14.640 just kind of waiting for him to pop back in here

00:22:16.640 i don't really have anything else to say right now in this moment as i'm killing time here i

00:22:26.660 suppose i could sing you a song but i'm terrible at that too oh wait a minute here we go again

00:22:33.500 ah all right let's see better well i don't it hasn't cycled yet so i don't know

00:22:40.180 but you know what let's carry on with what you were talking about because you made

00:22:45.540 some very good points. We were talking about the dairy cartel. We were talking about supply

00:22:49.640 management. We were talking about Pierre Polyev and how he deals with people in general, as you

00:22:55.560 observed personally. So please carry on with that. Yeah. So I'll try to try to keep this

00:23:01.640 segment short and just kind of wrap that up nice and good for you. So basically, the dairy cartel,

00:23:06.440 in my opinion, does not serve the interests of Canadians. And it's detrimental to us to

00:23:10.320 sacrifice trading leverage in any negotiation with the United States or others to put them

00:23:15.180 before uh just to blankly request they are given special treatment and that sacrifices leverage

00:23:21.280 that we would otherwise have that we're demanding something like that from the beginning we're

00:23:25.540 losing position to do that it's not beneficial to canada so maybe if you turn your audio gain

00:23:31.800 down just a smidge do you have that yeah i could i could is that any better you're maybe you're

00:23:37.020 you're over modulating and that's what's causing this let's try that and the only way we're going

00:23:43.220 to know for sure, John, as the conversation continues and it doesn't happen again, or it

00:23:47.780 does. So getting back to the negotiations, if Canada decides that they want to go ahead and

00:23:55.260 say these things are off the table before negotiations ever begin, as you were pointing

00:23:59.240 out, well, I mean, that's something that a country negotiating from a position of strength

00:24:04.240 or weakness should never do. And Canada was never, ever in any kind of position to be

00:24:11.800 trying to push the americans around for the last 18 months what have we heard elbows up we've seen

00:24:18.520 mark carney take shots internationally at donald trump now they say donald trump's got a thin skin

00:24:24.980 and and he's got a big ego and he doesn't like that look at i'll tell you something if a player

00:24:30.400 in a hockey game goes ahead and shows up the referee time and time again by yelling in his

00:24:37.220 face eventually that guy's going to get a 10 minute misconduct penalty five minutes he's going

00:24:41.560 to get the book thrown at him, right? Because you can only take so much. What Trump has been trying

00:24:47.260 to do, in my opinion, for the last year and a half, specifically with Canada, considering that

00:24:52.180 we're one of the only countries to retaliate against these tariffs, us and China, is he has

00:24:57.400 been trying to negotiate the best deal he can for his country. But when Carney made it personal with

00:25:03.540 his remarks, even impersonating him at that speech in Ireland, he gave a couple of months ago. And

00:25:08.900 then just this past week, I think he he made a joke at Trump's expense about a conspiracy because

00:25:14.960 his monitors weren't working or something. His teleprompter was out. And that kind of thing

00:25:20.340 doesn't sit well. What is Carney thinking when he does that stuff? It made it personal for Donald

00:25:26.040 Trump. And I believe that the reason that he wants the U.S. booze explicitly back on the shelves

00:25:31.900 in the next 24 hours now is to make Carney look bad. Trump understands that Carney doesn't have

00:25:39.160 the power to do that. That power lies with the premiers. So he made Mark Carney today go hat

00:25:46.020 in hand. I've got a clip of Wob Canoe from Manitoba. He made Carney go hat in hand today

00:25:51.360 with all of the premiers begging for them to return the booze to the shelves. I'm going to

00:25:58.040 throw this clip up of Wab Canoe here. Here it is. Watch this. Told by the Prime Minister that

00:26:02.560 he wants us to put the booze back on the shelves. Without giving you details? They gave us some

00:26:07.300 details and other stuff they said they're still nailing down. So he was, I wouldn't say that he

00:26:13.540 was begging us, but what is the step before begging? So I get it from his perspective. Why

00:26:21.820 does he want us to take the booze off the shelves? He's the one who got on the phone with Donald

00:26:25.980 trump which you know i don't think any of us want to be on the phone with trump or in a photo with

00:26:30.380 him but there you go somebody has to do it thank you mark carney for doing it and you can understand

00:26:35.980 he got to a place where he can recommend the deal the canadians but i think for the rest of us okay

00:26:42.940 is the prime minister saying to the provinces if you don't put the booze back on the shelves

00:26:46.700 we won't have a signed deal by the end of the week yeah effectively yeah

00:26:51.420 you see well first of all i've got many things to say about that number one uh the premier of a

00:26:58.760 small crime-ridden province uh have not should not be looking so smug in front of the media like

00:27:06.380 that not ever but secondly he makes the point of vilifying donald trump as all the premiers have

00:27:12.340 done doug ford david eby all of them well except for danielle smith and scott moe i would say

00:27:16.780 and he also told the entire country that mark carney came to them begging now imagine how

00:27:26.240 donald trump i'm sure he probably saw a clip of that maybe who knows maybe one of his people

00:27:31.380 thought it was funny and they brought it to the president's desk i don't know but he must be going

00:27:35.680 yeah okay how do you like that mark because mark made it personal in the last year and a half and

00:27:42.580 ever since this whole thing started i knew that as each day passed the deal would get worse and

00:27:48.940 worse and worse we don't know the details of it yet but it's not going to be good for canada not

00:27:54.700 at all going forward well now you're muted at least we fixed that fast a few things to say

00:28:06.000 quickly there i'm a fan of canada i love canada i want canada to win i don't care who does it i

00:28:12.320 don't care if it's lab canoe i don't care if it's mark carney don't care if it's justin trudeau i

00:28:17.160 want our country to win i want our people to win um now like you said there's a way to do it am i

00:28:22.940 gonna fault lab canoe for standing up there and being arrogant and doing that not really just

00:28:28.100 just because like you said does trump even know that it's happening and even if he does like

00:28:32.860 trump trump does like to hit other people and i do believe that when someone punches you in the

00:28:38.120 face punch them back but but but but here like the like you said it was been it's been extraordinarily

00:28:44.740 antagonistic and the the reality of why this is so flamboyant so like this so personal is because

00:28:51.280 one it's extraordinarily popular it's very popular with with large swaths of demographics 1.00

00:28:57.100 which is amazing to me it's easy points how can that be are canadians that stupid do they 0.99

00:29:03.800 not understand that the american economy is like 12 or 13 times larger than ours that 75 percent of 0.99

00:29:11.300 our trade which is our gdp goes to the united states do they not understand that in any kind

00:29:17.440 of conflict whether it's economic military i mean we don't stand a chance some people have said well

00:29:24.120 look at this from the mosquitoes point of view and yeah the mosquito might get one or two bites in

00:29:28.600 but eventually it gets slapped brother. That's true. Absolutely. It's never good to go head on

00:29:34.080 head, uh, head to head with somebody like that. But the thing of the reality of the nature of

00:29:38.600 the situation is that our country, like you said, is smaller. Our country's economy is 10, 13 times

00:29:45.760 smaller. We are at an inherent disadvantage. And while we have shared a historic and celebrated

00:29:52.580 and unusual peace extending you know well over 200 years now with the united states as our closest

00:29:58.780 friend and ally um geography has made us neighbors the whole thing right and we're we're allies and

00:30:04.920 we've we've got a long peaceful history in the violent history of the world which is exceptional

00:30:09.340 and uh we do depend on them we i also believe that you know geopolitics change and there is

00:30:15.340 value in diversifying our portfolio now but here's the here's the catch to that if they were serious

00:30:20.580 about this it's been it would have been something undertaken years ago it should have been

00:30:24.440 undertaken years ago developing railways developing pipelines because what does Canada have that most

00:30:30.860 countries don't have that's super valuable energy products oil natural gas the world wants it so

00:30:39.500 guess what build a pipeline get it to port and sell it so that we can make money so that we can

00:30:45.180 do better we can develop our economy we can make quality of life better we can have jobs we can

00:30:50.160 have growth we can have security and options but what did we do we said raw raw raw raw this that

00:30:56.220 the other thing whatever climate change man climate change the hot word of the week and we we land lot

00:31:01.320 we we effed ourself and we sat in the corner screaming about it and now we're being bullied

00:31:05.720 and crying about it because we put ourselves in this position we spent decades wasting time

00:31:11.020 not building not developing not expanding our trade like we should have like competent leaders

00:31:16.200 in this country every single one has failed to develop this country's enormous amazing potential

00:31:22.140 this country has been underserved by government after government after government in every form

00:31:27.560 in every way possible the resource is underdeveloped the people held down and in this

00:31:33.440 weird place where we're so antagonistic to united states and the thing about trump i want to say

00:31:39.380 this, it's a bit off this part, but Trump, Canadians are so slighted and so angry by Trump

00:31:46.540 because Canadians view themselves, the Canadians as a blob. I'm a Canadian, I'm a proud Canadian,

00:31:51.440 and I don't consider myself part of that blob. They consider themselves morally virtuous. They

00:31:58.160 are superior because they are morally better than you. They practice extreme progressivism.

00:32:03.440 they are to be praised and applauded the election of donald trump for whatever you think of him and

00:32:09.680 i have quite strong critiques of him in certain departments um was a was a severe attack on their

00:32:15.620 worldview and they basically what happened was they they went how dare you how dare you defy

00:32:22.640 our progressive religion how dare you appoint someone who the idea of them is in many ways

00:32:28.180 contrary to this state religion that we basically practice here and that this this thing that we

00:32:32.840 claim our virtue and superiority on. Because when Canadians say that they're better than you, 0.62

00:32:37.680 it's not, there is delusion here. It's not an economic statement because they know the economy

00:32:43.860 of the United States is bigger. They might be stupid, but they know that much. Their belief 1.00

00:32:47.940 becomes from we're smarter than you because we're more progressive than you because we do X, Y, and

00:32:54.000 Z thing that's coming through the academia and you don't, or at least not as much as we do. So we're

00:32:59.360 better than you and so the election of trump was a big offense to that and that's really one of many

00:33:05.620 key manifestations of the anti-american impetus and the anti-trump impetus is now trump in reality

00:33:11.460 has been very different than the idea of trump but to trump it's in the idea as an attack on

00:33:16.800 the canadian psyche on the uh the modern canadian um you know hand-fed you know misinformation

00:33:23.100 psyche. Let me, let me stop you right there. What is the modern Canadian psyche and when did it

00:33:29.760 start developing? A long time ago. So, uh, Canada's roots in progressivism and, uh, left-wing

00:33:36.220 idealism goes quite a ways back. Um, I can't, I can't tell you the exact time when it started,

00:33:41.840 but certainly all of my life. And it's, it's, it's, it's many different ideas. It's, it's taking

00:33:47.900 the things that are brewing in the academic world to their end points right in many senses it's um

00:33:55.580 it's every social issue you can imagine it's it's this and it's it's it's not enough to entertain

00:34:01.860 or to have debate it has to be this this this and continuously moving okay so let's let's just call

00:34:06.360 it what it is it's critical race theory it's yeah yeah absolutely social governance it's dei it's

00:34:11.620 all of that stuff absolutely intersectionalism yeah that never stops growing because when one

00:34:16.980 cause is no cause is ever satisfied and when cause one cause becomes stale the next one is

00:34:21.840 immediately adopted to continue the blobbing right and so but the average Canadian isn't

00:34:27.520 processing that the average Canadian who ascribe who believes in this position is not thinking

00:34:33.240 about that process they're thinking I'm better than you they can't pinpoint why but it's because

00:34:37.920 of the moral the fake moral virtue and so they are personally offended to a like it's like if

00:34:45.080 if someone comes up to a deeply faithful person and says your god is this your god is fake your

00:34:50.260 god is it's like it's like the reaction of that that would have on this person because their idea

00:34:54.880 of canada as superior is based on this so is this fake moral progressive virtue and so the idea of

00:35:01.280 donald trump as a slight to that was a mortal wound to the canadian psyche of that section of

00:35:07.540 canadians i'm not i'm canadian don't subscribe to that but unfortunately it looks like most do 0.99

00:35:12.000 most can't point it out they know the economy it's not the economy stupid it's not the military 0.97

00:35:17.020 there's a couple of you know there's like 10 delusional guys across the country who think 0.96

00:35:20.080 we can take the united states everyone else knows we can't it's it's the moral it's the

00:35:24.500 progressive moral virtue that comes from the endless intersectionality yeah but you know

00:35:28.160 what's interesting you say that's a very good point um and we talk about it coming out of the

00:35:33.080 universities we talk it talk about it coming out of corporate now i mean i i believe that uh most

00:35:38.980 corporations these days have uh dei managers and they have bi-weekly meetings where the staff has

00:35:44.680 to attend and listen to the latest discussion on intersectionality and i'm not even kidding

00:35:49.380 when i say that when i left chorus entertainment in 2017 or 2018 they were just starting that

00:35:56.260 routine i was preached to about how white people cannot be uh you know discriminated against

00:36:04.680 and i thought who are you to tell me that and then i look remember now that she was just

00:36:10.020 out of radio school by three years maybe and that's something that she had been taught but

00:36:14.720 here's something that's interesting i saw a guy just this past weekend i hadn't seen him in 10

00:36:20.360 years and it was good to see him right we're sitting there we're having a drink we're having

00:36:25.120 a bite to eat and the waiter came by and he was a disaster complete disaster he was awful he was

00:36:32.560 dropping things. He didn't remember orders. He was terrible. So he leaves the table. I look over

00:36:37.800 at my buddy and he's saying quite the retard. That's what I said. Now I look at your eyebrows 1.00

00:36:42.600 go up like that, right? 10 years ago, I'm talking to, I'm talking to like a guy from 10 years ago.

00:36:48.480 And I know that 10 years ago, this guy that I was sitting with would not have even blinked at that

00:36:55.240 word. This time it was like, what's the matter with you? Like he was completely offended. Like

00:37:03.660 I had just kicked his dog or insulted his mother. And I thought, man, like here we are living in

00:37:10.040 this, in this sea of wokeness, surrounded by billboards. It's all over Netflix, anything

00:37:16.640 you watch on television, anything you hear on local radio, propaganda, woke, woke, woke, woke,

00:37:21.480 and it's instilled i believe into canadians to feel guilty when they hear expressions like that

00:37:28.220 now and to take exception to it right now i don't i'm some somehow immune to it maybe you are too

00:37:34.020 i believe in i believe in speech and i believe in i i do not believe in in censoring speech

00:37:39.540 because i believe that there's a value in the exchange of information and i believe that in

00:37:42.880 an open debate the best idea is win um so i don't i don't ascribe and believe in censorship i don't

00:37:50.120 i don't i believe in speech and now some words have history some words uh some people are deeply

00:37:55.680 offended by some of them offended for the sake of the fence some of them offended because for

00:37:59.820 some reason they take personal harm from them but it's it's it it's it you know it is a touchy

00:38:05.620 subject uh some in some ways some of it um but as as my core value is that speech is speech and

00:38:12.500 speech deserves to exist openly and best ideas win that's my that's my philosophy with it yeah

00:38:18.860 well i mean like that expression is not something i would use generally speaking on the show right

00:38:23.980 in a professional way but just sitting at a table in a lounge with a buddy of mine i hadn't seen in

00:38:30.300 a long long time and saying that you know it's just a couple of guys having a chit chat but

00:38:37.420 it's locker room talk you know it's existed forever and no one used to self-censor right

00:38:42.220 so now you're you're entering a space where the the people are so like you said deconditions the

00:38:47.420 the language where they're like well how could you say that you know but they don't recognize

00:38:50.420 that you're in a ironically a safe space where you know people just speak without trying to

00:38:55.720 change the words that come to mind not of not of like uh in my opinion not out these these

00:39:00.760 these conversational spaces don't happen out of malice it's just you know the quickest thing to

00:39:05.920 mind self-censorship it has a whole process of rewiring your brain where you can't you get to

00:39:10.960 the point where you can't even express basic ideas anymore because you're constantly running

00:39:14.100 into oh can i say that who's exactly you know like and that's the point that's one of many points

00:39:18.260 yeah but uh yeah so the trade thing i want to just circle back a little bit to that because

00:39:22.660 this is a very interesting philosophical discussion but like i said i believe that

00:39:26.120 trump's biggest thing is the idea of him because he hasn't he hasn't lived up to any of the ideas

00:39:31.560 of him but the idea of him was so extremely mortally offensive to canadians to their their

00:39:37.960 false sense of morality their superior morality that makes their superiority complex it's the

00:39:42.760 basis of the canadian superiority complex which they also have an inferiority complex as well

00:39:47.640 but it's a it's a it's a it's a it's it's a dual relationship that switches moment to moment it's a

00:39:53.040 very uh it's a very wounded psychology that we need to get over as a country to prosper but like

00:39:58.500 i said if we were serious um and it wasn't just the raw raw raw anti-trump stuff we would have

00:40:03.220 built the ports we would have built the railways we would have built the roads in most of ontario

00:40:06.800 it's in one road you know i mean highway 11 and 17 west of um west of nipigon is 17 like and

00:40:13.940 that's embarrassing it's embarrassing we have one road you know and a lot of the northern reaches

00:40:19.300 of canada are tundra you can't really build on them it's permafrost it's very difficult to get

00:40:23.060 foundation in uh there's nothing growing up there you know the tree line ends canada has a lot of

00:40:27.500 inhospitable territory but we haven't used what we could use not even close and it's not to say

00:40:33.380 go reckless, it goes Simpson style, Mr. Burns dumping nuclear waste into the local pond with

00:40:38.260 the five-eyed fish. That's not what this is. It means we have been given a gift by God, by whoever

00:40:43.920 you believe in, in this nation, this beautiful country. We haven't used it. We haven't got our

00:40:48.560 oil to market. We haven't developed our people. We haven't provided the opportunities for young 0.98

00:40:52.800 and old people alike in this country to prosper, which is the greatest crime of the last many

00:40:58.700 governments. And I just wanted to say this also about Pierre, because you asked about him. And I 1.00

00:41:02.720 said i saw him interacting thought it looked genuine and i and i to me that's the bare minimum

00:41:07.460 um and also there was a couple of things i like and there's some conservatives that i like i like

00:41:11.420 larry brock he's retiring um you know i once watched uh larry brock speak to a person a

00:41:17.080 protester i believe it was last year i think at parliament opening person was you know having a

00:41:23.100 very difficult time um not extraordinarily coherent uh but larry sat there you know they

00:41:28.400 have this little metal fence right before you go up the stairs and listen to this person for like

00:41:32.040 10 or 15 minutes so i'm like man it was difficult to listen to because there's a lot of pain in

00:41:36.000 there there's a huge amount of pain and um not necessarily expressed in a radio style so you

00:41:42.520 know just to give your time like that to me especially when you know that it's there's going

00:41:46.520 to be negative press if you're seen with someone holding a protest sign a freedom convoy associate

00:41:50.280 whatever it is so to me that bought me a few points with him you know there's i like jamil

00:41:54.500 devani i i've spoken to him a few times he's great people hate him makes me like him more

00:41:58.540 because he just seems like a genuine dude.

00:42:01.460 I like him.

00:42:02.360 I like Andrew Lawton.

00:42:04.420 I like a few of them.

00:42:05.260 There's some good people over there.

00:42:06.780 There is.

00:42:07.560 There's also some people

00:42:08.540 who can't take five degrees of heat.

00:42:11.060 And this is a time

00:42:12.240 for standing behind principle.

00:42:14.140 This is a time for leaders

00:42:15.120 who speak bravely.

00:42:16.280 This is a time for conserving

00:42:17.480 what makes this country this country.

00:42:19.580 This country is a very special,

00:42:21.120 unique place.

00:42:21.720 We're also very lucky,

00:42:23.300 fortunate to be born here.

00:42:24.920 Anyone who says elbows up

00:42:26.680 and speaks of Canadian patriotism,

00:42:28.540 adopted patriotism as a costume within the last year and a half i've been wearing it my whole

00:42:33.420 life it's it's not it's not a costume for me it is my identity i love our country i grew up in

00:42:38.280 ottawa and as you know as as messed up some of the ideologies here i'm so close to the history

00:42:43.520 and the heart of the country the ottawa valley uh up the saint lawrence seaway to montreal this

00:42:48.080 whole area is some of the oldest um settled area in canada right so we have the history of the

00:42:53.780 country here. And as Canada is such a big place, one of the unfortunate repercussions is the farther

00:42:58.800 you get from the heart of the country here, the less coherently connected to the fabric of it

00:43:04.720 you are. Even here, people are throwing away what we have, which is just a shame because it's so

00:43:09.180 beautiful. It's so beautiful that we even managed to persist this long, that we've had this peace

00:43:13.920 with the United States. We should have done so many things different, shoulda, coulda, woulda.

00:43:18.160 But Mark Carney is full of it. He's building faster than ever before. No, he's not. Everything

00:43:23.120 he says is basically a lie. And it's just the truth of the matter is that it's sad where we

00:43:28.360 are as a country because we shouldn't be here. We should be winning. We should be trading with

00:43:32.760 the United States. We should be trading with everybody. We should be the bee's knees. We

00:43:37.140 should have lines around the block of cargo ships in every port waiting for everything that we should

00:43:42.520 be. We shouldn't just be cutting down trees and mining minerals and putting out uranium and

00:43:47.560 potash. We should have factories here. We should have development here. We should have innovation

00:43:52.240 and science here we have some of the most brilliant people in the world who have ever lived have been

00:43:55.960 canadian have invented and contributed enormous enormously to scientific history to real history

00:44:01.320 right like the uh so many different amazing inventions that were canadian made we should

00:44:09.100 be appreciating that here's on the topic of culture and and and and cultural battles one

00:44:15.700 of the things that a lot of conservative-minded people hate is investment in arts well i think

00:44:20.400 that if conservatives had invested more in arts, we would have been much better positioned for this

00:44:24.900 conflict of culture that we're in right now. By surrendering the arts to the left, we gave all of

00:44:31.600 it to them. We let them control every single artistically minded person coming through the

00:44:36.040 schooling system. We said, no, no, no. The arts, culture, history, the study of language, the study

00:44:43.540 of beauty, of visual arts, of sculpture, of all of these things, they're useless. We're not going

00:44:50.000 to give a dollar to it let uh let that union do it let that uh civic group do it and what has been

00:44:55.640 the consequence of that the capture of our culture we should so that's you're gonna hate me for saying 0.66

00:45:00.680 it but conservatives should be investing in arts we should own the fucking arts you make a great 0.85

00:45:05.740 point no that's cool man i mean that's a great we should own it if you look at every single 0.96

00:45:12.060 rock band or you know musical artists right like they're all lefties now and that's a shame i mean

00:45:21.960 because they are i mean like every time you know you see a liberal commercial you got like mike

00:45:27.820 myers in it or you've got that weirdo from alberta who was calling people who wanted to separate in

00:45:33.860 alberta crazy nutbag what's your name again i forget her name jan arden right like all of these

00:45:40.060 people are have become so far left and you're absolutely right that's a great explanation as 0.65

00:45:45.920 to why now one of many let me ask you this i mean you you love canada absolutely you know i i grew

00:45:53.040 up with that idea as well i'm not going to lie i mean i thought canada was one of the greatest

00:45:58.240 places ever in the world i've been to the united states many many many times always felt a little

00:46:05.480 bit of coldness there for whatever reason came back home and everything was all right again

00:46:09.560 But I'll tell you right now, man, in the last 10 years, this is not the country that I was born in.

00:46:16.180 It's just not.

00:46:18.200 It's no longer the same.

00:46:19.620 And I'm starting to think that maybe a weak government based thousands of miles away from British Columbia, Alberta, places like that, is not able to govern everybody.

00:46:34.700 Is the landmass too big to be considered one country?

00:46:37.640 I mean, it's the second largest landmass as far as a country on earth behind Russia.

00:46:44.460 I mean, people in Alberta think differently, much differently than people in Newfoundland

00:46:49.340 and Labrador or Nova Scotia or Manitoba, for that matter.

00:46:52.640 British Columbia is a whole other matter.

00:46:54.420 I mean, if you look at British Columbia and Ontario, because it's huge and so is Quebec.

00:46:58.540 I mean, even these provinces, you know, the difference in mindset and attitude from somebody

00:47:04.520 who lives in the interior of B.C. or the eastern part, the Kootenays, or the northern part of B.C.

00:47:10.240 is so different from somebody who lives on the island or the lower mainland.

00:47:15.660 Like, where is the cohesive identity of this country? And if there isn't one, aside from the

00:47:21.560 flag and hockey and maybe Tim Hortons 10 years ago, then why bother trying to cobble together

00:47:28.660 this crazy quilt of so many different and today hostile ideologies it's a very interesting uh

00:47:37.720 position and i'm i'll start off by saying like i've said many times even though i'm not a public

00:47:42.200 official i don't have to say this i said i believe in canada i'm a federalist i believe in the united

00:47:47.920 canada and there's some there's some things to talk about what you just said because it's very

00:47:51.360 important but uh that being said i respect the democratic process and the right of a people to

00:47:55.940 self-determination so should you know should any vote happen uh with that not being directly

00:48:01.780 mentioned by yourself i just said you know like that's that's to be respected now the size of

00:48:06.460 the canadian political the country of canada is enormously challenging logistically um culturally

00:48:11.880 every single part of this enormous country and to put it into scale is hard anyone who's ever

00:48:16.940 driven across canada knows but like i've driven driving from my house to an hour east of alberta

00:48:22.680 border is that 33 hour straight drive from here to the to your province not even winnipeg is 24

00:48:29.200 hours 23 24 straight yeah right i've done your bay 19 oh i've done it i've done it i've done it

00:48:35.440 in one shot yeah i know let's go yeah but i know beautiful rocky dangerous dangerous road 17 is a 0.99

00:48:44.140 dangerous road they call it you know they always love to emphasize how dangerous it is the damn 0.94

00:48:47.840 things like what like 2 000 kilometers long of course they're gonna have a lot of accidents on 0.96

00:48:51.380 it's it's bigger than most countries it's bigger than like all of europe one end to the other

00:48:55.780 basically so like oh there was three accidents in this week on the highway 17 it's like dude

00:49:00.140 the highway is 2 000 kilometers long you know like you're talking about it it's crazy how big

00:49:06.440 even with the internet right like that has united people like me and you were talking thousands of

00:49:11.060 kilometers away from each other right now there still persists the cultural differences the

00:49:15.920 historical differences and the local needs. People in Newfoundland and people in Red Deer

00:49:23.720 and someone in Goose Bay and someone in Red Deer are going to have very different needs

00:49:28.040 and very different opinions just because of their situation. The fact is we're dictated by the

00:49:32.920 circumstances in which we live. If you're in one place, you have the needs of that place,

00:49:37.320 you have the resources and opportunities of that place, you have the desires that that situation

00:49:42.080 puts you in in that place so across such a geography like canada from mountains to rivers

00:49:47.180 to where economies are lumber based to where they are a mineral base to where they are and

00:49:51.840 unfortunately none of that's being developed and i believe in not only that but and honestly again

00:49:56.140 not mr burns style five eyed fish like we all believe in preserving beauty three eyes five is

00:50:03.920 more interesting but you know we all believe in preserving the natural beauty nobody here wants

00:50:08.300 to dump toxic sludge but it's been taken to such an extreme where doing anything is impossible

00:50:12.160 you know like building something takes 20 years and 17 studies and 80 million dollars before you

00:50:17.520 even have a shovel so i'm not i'm saying like we have opportunities here to both natural resources

00:50:23.340 to process resources and to also build advanced industry manufacturing like why do we outsource

00:50:28.880 all of our manufacturing everywhere else because should anything catastrophic ever happen or

00:50:33.140 relationships break down all of a sudden we don't have anything anymore we don't have cars because

00:50:37.380 half the stuff for it is made somewhere else we don't have computers we don't have this we don't

00:50:41.120 have anything we don't have anything we have sticks we have sticks if we're lucky because

00:50:46.460 we don't know how to make anything trump's gonna put 50 tariff on those too um so you know what i

00:50:52.100 urge you to do and and because this is a fantastic conversation i want to get into helen gruce in a

00:50:57.180 couple of minutes but you know what dude anytime you want to continue on with this conversation

00:51:02.400 and i'm not saying it's getting long but you did tell me that you retired earlier today and i

00:51:06.460 respect that so i don't i just got my second win man i got myself but i'll just end it like this

00:51:10.640 because i we were kind of i was kind of meandering there and there's a point to this

00:51:13.820 wait a minute even though let me make my point because it's very important everything that's

00:51:18.500 been happening in canada for the past 30 years or so is all about de-industrialization it's all

00:51:24.740 about agenda 2030 by the un right which was agenda 21 which was signed by all of these countries in

00:51:32.240 1992 that's the situation that we're it's not a conspiracy no it's real man i mean all people

00:51:38.540 have to do is go look it up it's online it's there you can go like oh so what it means nothing

00:51:42.600 well actually it means a lot you know you know first it's a conspiracy and second then you show

00:51:46.680 them the signatories you show them the whole document you read it to them and they're like

00:51:50.520 well you know that's just you know that just doesn't mean what it says it means you know

00:51:54.640 that's basically you get level after level of code um i still believe the solution is the same

00:51:58.800 regardless of the intention is to love our country and to build our country because if we build our

00:52:02.980 country everyone's better off there's a lot less fighting there's a lot more cohesion when people

00:52:06.540 aren't hungry they're not fighting as much when people aren't suffering when people can buy houses

00:52:10.820 they know their their kids can buy houses when they know that their country's going to exist in

00:52:14.320 30 years that it's going to be a unique thing and that's one thing i want to point out is when

00:52:18.840 canada identity historical identity uh was disassembled and the idea of who is a canadian

00:52:25.320 was basically eliminated what we did is made it so that there is no identity you can't unite a

00:52:33.600 country over in hockey and timbits you can't because that's not a country is a nation and

00:52:39.080 a nation is a people and the people of canada are of a wide variety of backgrounds the first

00:52:44.280 settlers were french the english the scottish the irish okay it's it's in the it's in the it's in

00:52:49.280 the coat of arms and they say you can't talk about this anymore they say it's white supremacy no it's

00:52:52.500 our history it's our culture every other country on the planet is entitled to a culture to a to a

00:52:57.420 history and so are we and we damn well deserve it it doesn't mean that anyone else can't not come

00:53:03.080 here it means that we have a history that we are a people a unique people and in fact french

00:53:07.800 canadians have existed for so long that they have a unique genome they have a unique dna sequence to

00:53:13.100 them because they've existed in that state so long they are literally a unique people with a unique

00:53:18.260 origin they are so i know this is this is something this is something that has led to the erosion of

00:53:24.780 our country by saying that we have no national identity that we are the we are a country of

00:53:28.400 hockey what is canada we're hockey we're timbits we've said we are nothing and we've allowed that

00:53:32.840 all these competing ideas to just come in and try to claim canada's this or the other thing canada

00:53:37.020 is nothing it's led to atrophy it's led to balkanization it's led to strife because we

00:53:42.160 have nothing common to unite us besides like you said useless platitudes things culture

00:53:46.780 useless sports hockey school for some people i mean some things are pretty cool but it's not

00:53:51.460 something to unite a country around it's not a country country is not a hockey game a country

00:53:55.320 is is is the history of that place it's the people of that place do you remember back in the

00:54:00.080 day and you might be a little bit young for this but i am there was these vignettes that they used

00:54:04.420 to put out about a canada moment right and they would air between commercial sets on tv and it

00:54:10.780 would be like a 60 second thing valor road the reason they named a street valor road in winnipeg

00:54:18.760 where it used to be called pine street is because three brave young men volunteered to go fight in

00:54:24.140 world war one and it was just a it was a fantastic 60 god bless them yeah but they used to put out

00:54:29.340 there was probably 50 of these things that used to run johnny mcdonald yeah all of that i can't

00:54:34.720 read historically canada i think you're talking about the guy who is talking about the invention

00:54:38.660 of the schoolhouse or the propagation of the schoolhouse across the canadian countryside

00:54:42.660 and there's these angry guys in the schoolhouse and they're gathered around this this school

00:54:47.020 they're complaining about her and the guy is handed something at the end he's like i can't

00:54:50.820 read this is like or he says it in some some weird accent but yeah no no they're great and

00:54:55.940 they're used to there was like obviously terry fox there's all these cool uh johnny mcdonald

00:54:59.680 i think was one of the very last ones they made they made one for the war of 1812 uh you know so

00:55:04.220 that's that's long gone we used to celebrate ourselves now we have no identity we have no

00:55:09.980 history and when you have no identity and you have no history you have no country there's nothing

00:55:13.820 binding you together you're just you're just floating in the air and the wind coming along

00:55:18.720 the gusts will blow you apart because there's nothing binding you together yeah so this is

00:55:23.700 the problem and then also the fact that there's so much disparity in the country that there's so

00:55:27.980 much now you it's not to say you can't have a country with different needs in different areas

00:55:31.580 that is not united but we need to accept the common canadian history and a common canadian

00:55:36.860 culture right common canadian there's something unique about us that's okay it's not it's not

00:55:42.540 off place to say that it is all right everybody in the in the world is unique we're not no exception

00:55:49.180 to it now the thing about canada right now with mark carney in charge and justin trudeau before

00:55:54.700 him is that we have gone through and it's not just those two i mean de-industrialization has

00:56:00.160 been happening in Canada for quite some time, for probably 30 or 40 years now. And as you say,

00:56:05.940 we need to be able to build things to become self-sufficient, to be an actual sovereign

00:56:09.800 country. But I believe that Canada, at least now, and maybe always has been, it's just a vassal

00:56:16.700 state. It is a proxy for the city of London, which controls a large, large part of the world's

00:56:26.880 economy. And I believe this is what Donald Trump is fighting back against by trying to re-institute

00:56:32.240 the American system, a la Alexander Hamilton. And that's why the tariffs. Now, that is

00:56:38.860 a different philosophy altogether. If you guys want to see Promethean Action talk more about

00:56:44.520 that or Rich Does Politics, go ahead and do that. But this is something that I've been talking about

00:56:48.780 for quite some time. Unless we get rid of that philosophy, that Agenda 2030 philosophy,

00:56:55.860 none of the things that you have talked about and rightfully that you've talked about what

00:57:00.980 canada needs to do to become an actual sovereign country are ever going to happen and that makes

00:57:06.920 me sad yeah so um we're definitely a vassal state i don't know if we're a vassal state for london

00:57:12.820 they basically can't control themselves at this point but definitely no no the city of london

00:57:16.480 which is a different entity altogether right some some there's definitely some philosophers of

00:57:20.800 different European and British origins who are less than who are malicious and who are thought

00:57:27.480 leaders in certain circles of transforming the world and ideologies to do it like 2030 and so on

00:57:33.540 I believe if my personal perspective is we're more vassalized by the United States

00:57:38.040 and one of the things that had preserved Canada in the tumultuous reality of our world was our

00:57:45.360 unique English settler, French settler identity that we held on to so fiercely, keeping us

00:57:51.640 separate from the Americans and creating this identity in the first place. And again, no

00:57:56.800 ill will towards anybody and including Americans, but I believe in Canada. I want Canada to win,

00:58:04.100 right? And I don't want to be vassalized by the United States, but these choices have been made

00:58:08.840 long before I was born. We didn't build. How can you be a sovereign, strong country when you can't

00:58:14.060 even build anything you can't get anything out of the ground you can't use what god has given you

00:58:18.900 you're you're just basically floating in the wind you're like a bag you know you're big fight tough

00:58:23.840 bag but your plastic bag in the wind like sorry to say the katie katie perry song actually was

00:58:28.600 sung way better by a guy by the name of john tron he did a way better version of that internet

00:58:33.220 youtube celebrity but let's yeah we got helen gruse i think still to talk about yeah yeah we

00:58:38.460 do um but i before we get to helen and that's coming up you guys because john covered that the

00:58:43.020 other day in ottawa we've got some video of that important you said um that you're a federalist

00:58:48.360 and that's cool with me whatever uh but here's a young lady this video has gone viral all over

00:58:54.140 x i'm not so sure about instagram definitely tiktok her name is madison holmes this is a

00:58:59.120 three-minute video she's 23 years old and she says that if an actual referendum or alberta

00:59:06.180 separation were to happen today her x would be marked in the separation column and i want you

00:59:11.860 listen to what she has to say everybody pay attention to what she says it's very important

00:59:16.020 am i in favor of albert independence well as a young adult age 23 i still find my perception

00:59:24.180 is molded by others and on the topic of albert independence there's no exception after listening

00:59:29.300 to all the questions and concerns of all generations if ever there was a ballot in front of me

00:59:35.380 on whether or not to vote alberta out of canada my pencil will be checking yes and it'll be doing

00:59:41.140 so with confidence. Now, confidence in what, you ask? Alberta's success? How do you know?

00:59:47.380 Well, verily, I don't. I'm not always naive, and on the subject of forming a new nation,

00:59:54.740 fostering a new culture as consequence. I'm indubitably not naive. That's a big ask.

01:00:01.460 An important one. And anything that important is bound to be difficult.

01:00:07.860 How be it? I am a Harry Potter connoisseur, so in the words of Dumbledore,

01:00:14.020 dark times lie ahead of us, and there will be a time when we must choose between what is right

01:00:21.220 and what is easy. I'd be voting with confidence that my future is finally in my own fingers.

01:00:30.020 I want kids. I want a property with real grass.

01:00:33.460 I want a car that won't break down in two years because it's secondhand.

01:00:39.520 My best friends are leaving Alberta because they can't afford rent, insurance, schooling, appropriate food, all at the same time.

01:00:49.160 They said to me upon our goodbye, we wish we had what your family does.

01:00:55.300 The only reason I can afford to be as politically involved and entrepreneurial as I am is because I have seven people in my household.

01:01:03.460 seven incomes holding myself and four other young adults in this house afloat

01:01:09.700 i have a rare gift that my friends don't and they know it and that mutilates my heart

01:01:18.020 i understand why the older generations are afraid of starting something new

01:01:23.060 but what they grew up with that gift is now obsolete i'm suffering for it if i'm a traitor

01:01:32.180 to canada for voting for a better future they're a traitor to their grandkids for voting against

01:01:38.180 their future this isn't about canada this isn't about alberta this is about the youth i'm choosing

01:01:46.260 the next generation because relinquishing canada is nowhere near as treacherous as remaining in it

01:01:55.140 this testimony is the result of apathy from all canadians all of us the lack of involvement

01:02:01.300 and education in our population has left us all equally derelict.

01:02:06.020 This is not an Alberta issue.

01:02:07.920 And I have to do something to change it, even if it's arduous.

01:02:12.380 So I'm voting yes to Alberta independence.

01:02:17.240 That's pretty heavy from a 23-year-old kid.

01:02:20.440 And she makes a lot of great points.

01:02:23.180 Unless we're able to turn this whole ship around,

01:02:26.300 get rid of the net zero ESG ideology like yesterday,

01:02:31.300 the Canada that we love John is never going to come back I'm sorry to say that but that's how

01:02:37.660 it looks I have to agree with a few things she said and one of them the most that I agree with

01:02:42.580 a hundred percent the most is hard times are ahead and the thing about what she said

01:02:48.660 I respect the idea that as a smaller country you would have be closer to the center of power and

01:02:57.000 therefore feel more involved and more impact in your voice. Most elections are finished before

01:03:01.960 Alberta even counts, right? So I understand the grievance of that. Unfortunately, as we've been

01:03:08.000 talking about this entire time, the ills that have swept Canada and the entire world will also sweep

01:03:15.800 and have swept Alberta. I don't know how a referendum in Alberta would go. I think that

01:03:23.300 there would be a sizable population of people who would vote uh to leave but i think uh no matter

01:03:28.320 what the the results will shock a lot of people uh either that they they overestimated or

01:03:34.420 underestimated someone's going to be upset that's just that's a safe bet um but long story short

01:03:40.160 at the end of the day say alberta did all these things uh republic of alberta whatever that would

01:03:44.740 be forms unfortunately the cultural uh issues the creating a culture as she said this takes a very

01:03:51.400 very very long time it takes hundreds of years takes takes uh many generations not to say it's

01:03:57.840 not an effort worth pursuing um for all my for my despite my satisfaction in being canadian and my

01:04:06.460 respect for the things that kept us canadian and sovereign in the institutions and such

01:04:10.280 i also respect the great thinkers of of earlier centuries like in the united states the independence

01:04:15.240 the fathers of independence especially people like john adams who wrote extensively about the

01:04:19.880 idea of nation the idea of of of sovereignty of of of all these things ben franklin you know

01:04:26.240 a republic if you can keep it i believe that was him right so these there are causes worth pursuit

01:04:31.880 um do i think that unfortunately though the same forces are at play every single play every single

01:04:39.000 corner every single inch of this globe the one thing it would do is make you closer to it but i

01:04:43.640 think at the end of the day the results would be much the same um now that i could be wrong that's

01:04:48.400 just my position um and again like i said the right to self-determination if you don't have it

01:04:53.120 then you have nothing so if people want to do something uh they're entitled to do it if they

01:04:57.600 if they pass that then that's their decision if you can't self-determine then if you can't decide

01:05:02.400 how to govern yourself then you have no power in your life you are a slave you are uh you're

01:05:08.280 powerless and that's not a world that i believe in and so i respect self-determination as much

01:05:13.140 as i disagree with certain outcomes or don't want them um so yeah that's what i'll say and

01:05:17.800 she's uh very well spoken i could tell she likes to read a lot of uh i felt like i was having a

01:05:22.080 bit of a thesaurus there and definitely arduous definitely arduous dark times ahead indeed and

01:05:27.320 do it's hard or easy unfortunately most things are both it's always easy we need to talk about

01:05:34.240 helen we got to we got to she's good news that's it's bad news but it's good okay so we've been on

01:05:40.600 an hour and that was the main focus of the thing today talking about helen gruce and this has been

01:05:46.160 a fantastic conversation anytime you ever want to pick it up again man this is a great conversation 0.98

01:05:50.160 we'll be back again yes okay ellen on tuesday i got her final sentence and she was demoted in

01:05:56.600 rank for a period of uh 24 months so this is a temporary situation uh hopefully so you covered

01:06:03.120 that how how was that day for everybody well thank god it only took an hour and a half but

01:06:11.320 felt like it was uh it felt very long because after about the first 15 minutes of the written

01:06:16.760 decision because he's reading and i want to know how different what he read was from what was

01:06:22.360 written down because it was so poorly orated in that room there was basically he didn't even know

01:06:29.640 how many pages was in this thing like it's 37 or 38 pages when we start you know and after the first

01:06:34.440 15 minutes i feel like he said absolutely everything and he just said it four more times

01:06:37.880 So it was very uninspiring, a lot of political messaging in there, a lot of illogical, like logical fallacies.

01:06:45.560 We can't discuss this because it's an issue for appeal, like X thing.

01:06:49.520 We can't discuss X argument from defense.

01:06:51.620 That's an issue for the appeal.

01:06:53.320 And then, of course, when you get to the appeal, they're going to be like, well, X issue was an issue for trial.

01:06:57.360 So isn't it great how they can do that to you?

01:06:59.580 They can say, yeah, we can't talk about your argument because that's for next time.

01:07:03.060 That's for the appeal.

01:07:03.920 If you ever do it, you get to the appeal. 0.94

01:07:05.260 screwing with the system ever since this whole thing started right like bat she's way back i

01:07:10.360 mean the lawyer there helen gruce's lawyer bat she but she's she has been probably more frustrated

01:07:16.240 than any lawyer i've ever seen comment publicly on anything yeah they usually be pretty tight

01:07:23.740 lipped usually lawyers but she's she said i think the quote i remember from her most on that day was

01:07:28.220 this is the final death nail of justice in ottawa and she's not she's not wrong because the the

01:07:33.380 First of all, the idea, I don't even want to go into the, I do, but the specifics of the notion of an unauthorized investigation into sudden infant deaths is so ridiculous that on its face, prima facie, it is wrong.

01:07:48.520 it is on it is there is no argument that could be made to defend that position there's no such

01:07:54.380 thing as a designated sexual assault and child abuse investigator being unauthorized to

01:08:00.600 investigate sudden infant deaths in the city of ottawa as is their mandate there is nothing

01:08:06.940 prohibiting that it was invented for political purposes so i'll walk you through the timeline

01:08:13.080 is this, as I understand. So originally, pandemic comes along, Ellen Groose, she's wearing her mask, 0.93

01:08:18.900 she's wondering why other people aren't masking. And as things time goes along, maybe her position

01:08:23.760 changes, but she's always acting professionally. She's always doing the bare minimum to be in

01:08:27.660 compliance. She's a police officer. She is a person who enforces the rules and society is based in the

01:08:33.160 order, the function of peaceful society is based on the following of rules, whether we agree with

01:08:37.760 them or not. It's the thing that keeps us from, from hurting each other and from from might makes

01:08:42.660 right. Following rules separates us from societies of violence and societies of stealing and societies

01:08:48.840 of terrible and unimaginable things. And so someone who swears their life to do that follows rules

01:08:54.840 and enforces them, even if they personally disagree. And that's the professional in them.

01:08:59.980 And that's what she did. Now, that's not to say you follow illegal orders. That's very different.

01:09:03.680 You have to, as a person, make that decision for yourself. And everyone's going to say,

01:09:08.440 you know, it's like it's illegal to follow an illegal order or something like that. But

01:09:11.580 everyone goes along anyways right and where's the line and no one ever sees it even in retrospect

01:09:15.320 oh there it was we passed it about 17 miles ago but so so long story short she's not creating

01:09:20.280 scenes at this place from my knowledge of things she's not going around with a with a sign in the

01:09:25.100 in the unit when she's investigating she she has been praised as an investigator over the years

01:09:30.540 from the things i've seen even comments on places like reddit from people who had a vulnerable child

01:09:36.240 in their family brutalized in the most huge crimes the worst crimes a person can do in our society

01:09:42.980 and the only thing that salvaged anything for them and their family was the pers the persistence and

01:09:50.580 professionalism of ottawa police detective helen gruce in putting that person behind bars

01:09:55.740 so they spoke her for for her entire long career 23 odd years she has done nothing but serve this

01:10:03.380 this city and this community and protect our innocent people. And that was her job. And she

01:10:09.540 wasn't to go and ask permission. She's a police officer. She is invested in the authority of the 0.79

01:10:15.520 state under the powers that be that make her a peace officer in Canada, in the province of

01:10:19.880 Ontario. She is authorized to investigate. She is authorized to arrest. She is authorized to

01:10:26.800 pursue the evidence. That is her job. She's independent in doing so and to prevent it

01:10:31.800 itself is a crime. To interfere in an investigation is a crime in our country in the Criminal Code of

01:10:37.180 Canada. She has been given that power for a reason, and she wielded it responsibly for her entire

01:10:42.900 career, and she continued to wield it responsibly during the COVID pandemic. There was a surge of

01:10:48.880 sudden infant deaths. Her unit was mandated to investigate. Now, we're going to go into a little

01:10:53.420 bit of specifics here, and someone might need to correct me on this, but we're going to stay as

01:10:57.220 general is i don't like to i'm going to say some numbers here i might be wrong uh unfortunately a

01:11:02.240 lot of the days of the trial were double booked there was a tamara trial and then there was a

01:11:07.020 helen gruce trial on the same day so it was in many cases and also my health prohibited me from

01:11:10.760 attending but say there was a increase in sudden deaths and there's a form that police in ontario

01:11:17.960 and police use uh for the death of an infant uh sudden infant death syndrome and particular

01:11:23.760 suspicious circumstances where there's no known cause there's a form and on that form to my

01:11:28.040 knowledge has been reported by i believe donald best a few times who wasn't himself a toronto

01:11:31.460 police officer there's a section on that form and where the officer um there's a what vaccinations

01:11:36.720 does the parent have that's on there it's been apparently it's been on there for decades decades

01:11:41.520 it's just there why adverse reactions who just medical facts basic it's basic thing it's not a

01:11:49.780 it's not a pervasive question. It's not a penetrative question. How many people have

01:11:54.520 you slept with your life? It's not like that. It's always been there. It's not new. I think

01:11:58.740 how the story goes is she noticed that for these particular infants, there was nothing in that

01:12:04.720 category. She's never seen that before. Her job, she is a SACA detective. These are the highest

01:12:10.860 detectives basically under homicide. They deal with the most violent and atrocious crimes that

01:12:14.960 occur in our society. And they're entrusted with investigating them and punishing the people

01:12:19.340 responsible that is their job they have full independence and authority in doing so they

01:12:24.600 don't go and say chief can i go and investigate this uh assault that happened at the bar it's not

01:12:29.840 how it works and so what does she do as i understand there's a police information system 0.96

01:12:33.980 looked up this these cases which she's entitled she's allowed to do that there's nothing that 1.00

01:12:38.240 says she can't look up a case on see police do it all the time how many times has fucking police 0.98

01:12:42.380 officers looked my name up how many have they looked your fucking name up was that an authorized 0.99

01:12:46.640 decision they did it for political purposes you're a political person you're talking political things 0.99

01:12:51.220 why were they fucking searching you and cpc why were they searching me did they go and ask the 0.99

01:12:55.620 fucking prime minister of canada better yet were they told to do it so this is the logic that we 0.99

01:12:59.960 have here right so like they were being tracked but she goes in there as a designated investigator 0.99

01:13:06.060 of sudden infant deaths and sees that this field that she saw her entire career is gone it's not

01:13:12.260 there there's nothing there why so she asked so she asked a colleague or something i don't know

01:13:18.500 exactly how it uh percolated she asked somebody and uh i don't know about that i don't know what

01:13:24.720 it's of course they've never seen this before it's always there why isn't it there there's nothing

01:13:30.620 right or or seriously missing information on a standard form it would be like a standard form 0.82

01:13:36.960 where the fucking name is gone or the date of birth it's like it's incorrectly improperly 0.92

01:13:43.500 uh investigated improperly documented it's missing basic information so her detective skills are like 0.99

01:13:50.640 all right was this even done was this investigation which were mandated to do done properly because

01:13:56.120 we're missing basic level information here this is a problem this is a this is a routine form

01:14:01.480 that has been largely unchanged for decades missing basic information why so she i think as

01:14:08.320 it goes now this is the again i don't want so it was a series of nine okay there was the nine all

01:14:13.520 of them to my knowledge missing this in the record system she had unauthorized access of 22 police 0.99

01:14:18.920 records eat shit that's her job why was i how many times has my record been authorized which 0.99

01:14:26.440 politician is authorizing it mr renwick like come on fuck off right so she's she's a dedicated 0.99

01:14:32.940 charge with the investigation that is the mandate of the sacca unit to investigate sudden infant 0.96

01:14:38.540 deaths that is her job and she's done it forever and there's basic information missing on this

01:14:44.220 paperwork so finally she as a police officer now i want to be correct here so please everybody

01:14:51.740 place a grain of salt on this as i understand she places a call uh to a father of one of the

01:14:57.560 infants and says was your wife uh vaccinated i again grain of salt guys let's double let's fact

01:15:04.420 check here okay so that's happens and then it's a simple phone call it lasts i don't know how many

01:15:09.700 minutes maybe two three minutes whatever it's it's over and as i understand this entire time

01:15:13.780 helen krus was um not hiding the fact that she was doing this she uh she was as the protocols

01:15:19.640 were established for reporting any inquiries she was following them she wasn't writing i did this

01:15:24.720 at this time at this point i'm busy with you but she followed all the established protocols she

01:15:28.060 made no attempts to conceal anything she did on that system or in that inquiry and then inquiry

01:15:33.900 she asked colleagues why is this basic information that's always there gone basically right and they're

01:15:38.020 like oh you're and then they all start talking amongst themselves as i understand you're an

01:15:41.280 anti-vaxxer this is that the helen goose is an investor and then at some point somebody in this

01:15:45.660 unit leaks one of these information some of this information to somebody at the cbc as i understand

01:15:50.120 the story cbc princess becomes a huge scandal brass of ottawa police comes down charges helen

01:15:55.640 gruce with discredible conduct for performing a basic inquiry a very short phone call to my

01:16:01.020 knowledge is again please double check the sources but a basic inquiry into why simple information on

01:16:07.220 a form was gone and they stretched that into this massive thing discredible conduct which is what

01:16:12.960 police officers get charged with when they're like read some of the recent ottawa police decisions

01:16:17.100 on discreditable conduct it involves officers driving drunk getting into an accident not

01:16:21.860 reporting it to police and driving home and concealing the cruiser basically or or doing

01:16:26.120 the bear like leaving the contact information with the person and leaving the scene drunk out

01:16:29.440 of their mind right that's discreditable conduct rightly so or a sexual assault that gets criminal

01:16:34.740 charges obviously police are always treated better in the system there's no equal justice it's not a

01:16:38.740 thing they they get a lot of these sweetheart deals with the crown right and they get the

01:16:42.300 charges lowered and stuff that me or you would never have that selling drugs we get it like

01:16:45.940 all this shit oh yeah so that's what it is and she gets that right because uh on the internal 1.00

01:16:51.000 police disciplinary hearing and then they crucify her she spends hundreds of thousands of dollars 0.99

01:16:55.560 defending her good name she gets all kinds of people saying helen gruce is an amazing investigator 0.65

01:17:01.040 she saved my family's life we were brutalized and traumatized and she's an amazing detective

01:17:05.900 and the only reason we got justice helen gruce is an angel that's what we hear over and over again

01:17:09.660 Helen Grose, even to this day in 2025, glowing commendation, letter of review from her robbery

01:17:16.540 unit where she is now, saying she's a phenomenal officer. She passed her sergeant's exam years ago.

01:17:21.860 She should have been a sergeant, a leadership position in the auto police. She should be in

01:17:24.980 the damn brash. She should be an inspector. She should be the person making decisions in that 1.00

01:17:28.740 very crooked organization because she's righteous, because she's a police officer, 0.98

01:17:33.400 because she's responsible. She never leaked any of that to the media. She never made a scene about 1.00

01:17:37.900 that she inquired about why basic information was missing from a form that has always been there

01:17:43.900 level grade one stuff first day why is your name not on your homework mister kind of thing it's 0.98

01:17:50.120 it's a basic shit when you're investigating something as serious as the death of an infant 0.93

01:17:53.520 which is your mandate so it wasn't an authorized investigation it was her job with with all of 0.99

01:18:00.080 all of the information that's come out these past i guess it's been three years or so now

01:18:06.200 that this whole thing has been going on it's ridiculous they don't acknowledge any of it

01:18:10.960 they don't they don't acknowledge any of the outside information that's come into this and

01:18:15.180 they are hell-bent on making an example out of her but you have to wonder when you talk about

01:18:21.900 you know like police officers going to the mayor or going to the premier well that's basically what

01:18:26.900 he's saying now he's like the in the sentence he said and this is important to understand like

01:18:30.640 you unauthorized access of police systems no she didn't he she's entitled to do that she's

01:18:35.020 entrusted with the authority of a police officer to perform investigations relating to her mandate

01:18:38.400 and she wasn't even performing she was looking at a record in a record system that's why it's there

01:18:41.920 she's not looking up the address of an ex or uh stalking someone but my police work my point is

01:18:47.440 this like the these you know the prosecutors the ones who are trying to frame her for this

01:18:52.820 ridiculousness are are they self-motivated john i mean oh absolutely it's politics it's politics 0.98

01:18:59.120 it's all about embarrassment it's about uh it's about we're right and you're fucking wrong and 0.98

01:19:03.640 don't even ask me why but they know they're wrong i mean everything that you've just said in the 0.71

01:19:08.440 most of them a lot of them do uh a lot of them refuse to admit it and it's such a it's such a

01:19:13.840 deep we all suffered so traumatically that's the thing about the hearing covid was a hard time we

01:19:17.900 were preparing to institute the mandatory man vaccine mandates well well gee mr uh renwick

01:19:22.860 mr hearing officer and she considered maybe the auto police service was not corrected now well

01:19:26.720 everyone else was doing it that's probably what he would say you know i'm just a hearing officer

01:19:29.860 I can't decide on that. But it was a very tough time for everyone. Everyone was traumatically,

01:19:34.160 psychologically injured, whether they admitted or not, whether they went along or not.

01:19:37.760 Most of them went along to stop the injury that was happening because they couldn't handle it.

01:19:43.020 Society was falling apart. We were in pieces. Our country was in tatters. Our world was in

01:19:47.780 tatters. People were at each other's throats. We were locked up like animals. People couldn't

01:19:51.280 handle it. They were losing their mind. So they were doing anything they could to get out of it

01:19:55.500 as quickly as possible. They couldn't withstand a minute in the oven, in the kitchen. They

01:19:59.800 couldn't handle the heat so they went for the first opportunity to get out and then they turned

01:20:03.700 the they redirected the hurt that was given to them by being put in that pressure cooker onto

01:20:08.160 anyone else who was standing up for themselves or who was who was uh resistant to the system

01:20:14.060 because they figure okay if everyone just capitulates it's over and we're not going to

01:20:17.160 be harmed anymore so they turn their trauma against other people that's what happened and

01:20:20.820 some of them just wanted to do it to feel big it's interesting you're you're right when you

01:20:25.120 say that but that was then this is now and still why are they holding such a grudge because they're

01:20:30.840 they're harmed they're they're psychologically mind-deft and so they're taking it out on anyone

01:20:35.540 they can and then some of them i believe i choose out of the the hope in my heart to believe it's

01:20:40.660 the minority are doing this out of vindictive nature to exercise big uh to feel big um to feel

01:20:47.160 uh to feel powerful and to make others small and to abuse them okay anytime there's a system of

01:20:51.880 power is bullying right i've got video here i'm not sure if this is yours or not if you took this

01:20:57.440 but i'm going to put this up here this is helen and bathsheba walking out of the

01:21:01.580 is it the courthouse or the police uh headquarters where where is this it's a satellite office of

01:21:08.620 the ottawa police service their main headquarters is on elgin street and on ottawa it's this is in

01:21:12.800 the west end of the city of ottawa it's a hunt mart police station usually where i think all

01:21:16.720 the city's collision reports go but there's a hearing room there where the hearing it took

01:21:20.440 place. Okay, here it is.

01:21:29.580 This is just

01:21:30.420 after the

01:21:31.100 penalty

01:21:32.580 It's Dave Freedom's video.

01:21:34.320 Dave Freedom.

01:21:35.140 I can hear his

01:21:36.440 demotion from first class

01:21:39.060 constable to second class. 0.72

01:21:41.820 I am praying even

01:21:43.220 for retired superintendent

01:21:44.860 Chris Redwick, and I pray

01:21:47.040 for our whole community because, you know what,

01:21:49.200 We will get there.

01:21:50.580 We will make things better.

01:21:51.700 Look at all the love.

01:21:53.200 Just choose kindness,

01:21:55.140 truth, compassion,

01:21:56.360 respect,

01:21:57.580 because I know these officers love us.

01:21:59.340 We love them.

01:22:00.160 They're my brothers and sisters.

01:22:01.780 And let's fix things.

01:22:03.240 Let's make things better

01:22:04.180 because working together,

01:22:05.540 we can do that.

01:22:08.100 And I'm proud to say we will be appealing

01:22:12.060 on all levels.

01:22:13.100 We have a very long fight ahead, today is a day where we saw, I'd have to say, the final

01:22:42.700 nail in the coffin for the rule of law here in Ottawa. I am very concerned for all police

01:22:49.040 officers. The message today was that police officers will not have a fair hearing. And

01:22:55.280 that is very disconcerting in the area of law enforcement. Our police officers are cherished

01:23:01.820 members of our community that keep our communities safe. So we need this decision to be quashed

01:23:09.080 and overturned we also need the truth to be told and to be spread internationally

01:23:15.400 and i'll leave that in your hands to tell the story

01:23:22.920 so they are going to appeal this obviously uh more money out of helen's pocket more time 1.00

01:23:30.200 uh i mean she should be the chief she should be the deputy chief by now she's

01:23:34.760 she should be an inspector she should be making decisions not going through this

01:23:38.360 you see the type of woman that she is her her her strong character her forgiveness her her trust in

01:23:44.360 the brotherhood that they have at the as the police like even after all the abuse that she's

01:23:48.920 been through this is the woman this is the type of person that they choose to run over with a 0.64

01:23:52.680 bulldozer a person like that it says it all doesn't have forward to some kind of resolution

01:24:00.120 that makes sense here john do you see it i mean like they say they're going to appeal but

01:24:04.520 But what next, you know?

01:24:07.700 The correct outcome would be to say that Helen Gruse acted within her lawful authority as an invested police officer in the province of Ontario, a peace officer of Canada, and that she was authorized and also mandated in doing so.

01:24:19.280 and that her simple and professional and appropriate

01:24:26.180 and I'll say required brief inquiry of a parent

01:24:29.720 into a series of, to try and piece together

01:24:33.420 why basic information was missing from a set

01:24:36.200 of very critical, basic, longstanding documents

01:24:39.100 was appropriate.

01:24:40.260 And she acted in 100% correct, incorrect.

01:24:43.320 Everything she did was lawful, correct.

01:24:45.620 They're not saying it's unlawful.

01:24:46.520 They're saying that it's against policy.

01:24:47.640 It's against Ontario policing.

01:24:49.280 act right or regulations for tribunal basically employee discipline for police officers but the 1.00

01:24:54.400 correct outcome would be uh to make her whole and to uh to get her on a leadership track here 0.90

01:24:58.960 because she's the type of person who should be making decisions she has the emotional 0.63

01:25:02.160 maturity she has the intelligence to be that person she should be in leadership she long ago

01:25:07.040 past sergeant she should be a sergeant she should be moving up from there by now i agree with you

01:25:11.440 but like what what is she going to need to happen are there gonna have to be some members who come

01:25:16.400 out and say this is all bs they need to come out they well the thing is the idea of policing it

01:25:23.100 can't be a political operation it can't like in general in general you can't have political

01:25:27.180 movements and police forces because that takes away from uh the independence and objectivity

01:25:30.960 they're supposed to have right and so the thing about what helen did is she did not make this

01:25:36.240 public first of all that was the leaker who went to cbc with confidential police information

01:25:42.020 who was never held accountable who they never even tried to find who'd leak that to the press

01:25:48.320 created this entire i don't believe i don't believe so i mean maybe somebody does i think

01:25:53.400 dave's got her name yeah but i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say like i have no idea but they the

01:25:57.640 police the police service doesn't give like this is a person who actually leaked confidential

01:26:01.560 police information uh to the public to the cbc for no good reason and then the police says oh

01:26:07.380 you know what that's fine uh we're just going to prosecute her for looking on cpick for looking

01:26:11.900 22 unauthorized record acts which he admitted was not for personal use and not shared for others

01:26:17.580 not for her or for her gain but because there was basic information information missing off a

01:26:23.220 decades old sheet about the death the sudden death of an infant and she's like why first time in a

01:26:28.520 in 20 years seeing that gonna does a quick call to a a parent asking why hey uh was so and so

01:26:34.860 had this because uh we're missing some really basic information here i need to do some basic

01:26:39.840 follow-up to make sure that we did our due diligence as a police force into your uh into

01:26:44.580 your deceased family member it's our obligation to the community what's the your take on the

01:26:48.980 temperature of the police department right now are they just wanting this whole thing i'm not

01:26:52.700 even talking about the leadership i'm talking about the rank and file members here i mean there

01:26:56.540 was there was a couple of them in that video that we just played who were standing out there

01:27:00.680 i don't know what their thoughts were but somebody inside has got to say something considering how

01:27:08.160 well respected helen is you think somebody at least one or two people would have already come

01:27:12.920 out and said something i think i think internally there's a lot of support and police officers like

01:27:16.680 as i understand it like to keep it that way they're not making they're not political but

01:27:19.380 that's the thing you when something like this happens you have to be you can't just be quiet

01:27:22.920 about your agreement or disagreement you have to say this is wrong and move along but as i

01:27:27.040 understand in the robbery unit she's very well liked she has um she's a great uh supervisor

01:27:31.820 and she's literally that day after that verdict she went out and wrote a warrant for someone

01:27:36.460 doing her job that day you know hold getting justice for somebody who was a victim of a crime

01:27:41.480 right investigating and doing her job still on the day that she's persecuted that she's being

01:27:45.300 persecuted she literally goes and leaves there has lunch and then goes and does her police job

01:27:49.820 and gets a warrant for a scum bag somewhere right so she's she's an amazing person she's

01:27:54.680 indestructible and that's why they're running her over because she's like one of the only police

01:28:00.100 officers in the entire world who in any remote way looked at it she didn't go around to specify 0.99

01:28:05.860 because there's a caricature of this event of where she went around and was harassing people 0.99

01:28:11.360 about that she she used a police record search which means she went on uh cpick or whatever it 0.56

01:28:17.220 is on the police system looked up these cases which are their mandate um noticed the discrepancy

01:28:22.880 because i think actually i think it was another officer i think it was reported who went to her

01:28:26.260 and said hey did you know that all of these this this big burst of babies uh death has happened

01:28:30.740 in our unit that's mandated to investigate them and for some reason they're missing this information

01:28:34.280 on it she's like oh really or something basically is again grain of salt guys let's look into the

01:28:38.440 specifics here but i believe that's the story and then she goes she goes onto her work computer

01:28:42.840 which access to these six systems it's like if you go on facebook and i look up the name shadow

01:28:46.520 davis and then i click his picture is that two record searches right there i looked his name up

01:28:50.700 and i clicked his picture so like when she's literally just surf searching these nine records

01:28:54.940 and seeing that each single one of them is missing basic information that has been there her entire

01:28:59.780 career she's not on a she's not on a crusade like the renwick was like i reject the fact that this

01:29:04.600 wasn't done with malice of course f you like how dare you right like his logic was so oh it's every

01:29:09.620 he basically said this is he said all the negative media coverage that was given to the ottawa police

01:29:14.680 through this trial is an aggravating uh factor against helen but the negative coverage of helen

01:29:20.040 and he gave the example of the cbc is uh i'm so fortunate but too bad neutral so bad for us

01:29:26.320 doesn't matter for you this renwick guy i mean he was a superintendent right he's bumbling he's

01:29:32.460 bumbling he's not well yeah he is but i mean like he's retired this guy yeah so they brought him in

01:29:36.820 that's why they brought him in because they do that the retired people bring him in they're

01:29:39.860 objective right they're going to rule properly he doesn't know how to adjudicate his logic is

01:29:44.740 swiss cheese and he's very ideologically driven i don't think he's a bad guy per se i don't think 1.00

01:29:48.640 he's bad at all i don't think he's malicious i just think he's uh stupid and uninformed and 0.99

01:29:52.520 i think that he like everybody else was harmed traumatically wounded psychologically wounded 0.99

01:29:58.180 by the hold on hold on hold on hold on i mean he was a superintendent who didn't know the rules of

01:30:03.920 investigation no no so he i don't believe when he did this he did it out of malice i did he did it 0.97

01:30:11.160 out of stupidity and also blind allegiance to the things that everyone's have been conditioned to 0.88

01:30:15.720 right but the thing about what happened with helen is nothing she did and this has to be 1.00

01:30:21.340 emphasized over and over again was exuberant was protest in nature was anything like that

01:30:27.280 she was informed that there was a spike in her unit mandated to do this and that i believe it

01:30:32.980 was asked a freedom of somebody that the person informing her about this burst also said that

01:30:38.180 none of them had this basic information on it and she said oh really so she goes into her little

01:30:42.400 laptop which has all these things on it and as an investigator of the unit why would she ever in her

01:30:47.280 mind think well i'm not allowed to do this she does it every day hundreds of times a day looking

01:30:52.020 up everything it's it's in the mandate and then she looks up the record and sees that this this

01:30:56.780 basic level this basic information like like to put it in perspective the name of a person on

01:31:01.040 on a homework on test like the name field is gone well why is this basic non-presuasive like

01:31:07.000 non-penetrative basic information missing and then so she looks at all of them and says okay i'm

01:31:12.820 going to just call john doe and ask about this say just because i am a detective think about this for

01:31:19.180 a second her mandate as a sack of detective was to investigate these deaths she's obligated to

01:31:24.060 ensure that they are performed properly now the argument was made oh you didn't go through the

01:31:27.600 chain of command wasn't your specific investigation doesn't matter i how many times have detectives

01:31:32.360 crossovers on each other's file do they ask for superintendent or chief permission every time

01:31:37.160 of course not especially within a unit no no that's not sense it's a totally invented logic

01:31:42.640 it's not real it's an invented it's an invented barrier to something that she did was totally

01:31:47.060 benign and routine well that's what i mean when i when i say like renwick would have known all

01:31:52.000 of this stuff if you make it should have right i mean you make it the superintendent you got to

01:31:56.560 know the rules man there's probably police officers who have never seen this sudden infant death form

01:32:00.660 to be fair and even flag office like uh like brass because as i understand this is something

01:32:05.580 more related to harm it to to those mandated to investigate baby deaths everyone has their box

01:32:11.560 right everyone in the police force has a specialty you know like there there's the robbery unit there's

01:32:16.400 the sacca unit there's there's the senior abuse and everybody's got their own process obviously

01:32:21.400 but yeah so it's not necessary that up right he could have and absolutely he should have known

01:32:27.120 he should have known and it's not right if he invented logic that's not real and his ruling

01:32:32.000 is dangerous because it basically says that if a police officer wants to investigate something they

01:32:36.440 have to have the permission of a supervisor a detective constable has to have the permission

01:32:39.920 of a supervisor to investigate anything is basically where you can take the conclusion

01:32:43.200 of what he said which is false and illogical and second of all he basically said that uh you can't

01:32:49.040 investigate a politician or politically as something with political connotations without

01:32:53.240 having political permission so basically like oh if a politician steals eight million dollars we're

01:32:58.720 doing a fraud investigation we got to go ask that person for permission he also invented something

01:33:03.000 and i've verified this with multiple people in the inside that room in the decision he said that

01:33:07.460 helen gruse conducted an unauthorized investigation of a political official which never happened

01:33:13.540 never did it that's if you're gonna that's why i kept asking like can we i want to i haven't had

01:33:18.620 the opportunity to read the written decision yet but his his his verbal decision was diarrhea it

01:33:23.280 was verbal diarrhea it was illogical it was it was inventing facts i'm not an expert on the case i

01:33:28.320 sat on maybe five six seven days out of how many there were like this thing went on and this was

01:33:33.760 like the tamara trial like this was months of trial time so i'm not a subject matter expert but

01:33:39.840 okay so he he's making he said that she invest at what it was like a very quick thing might have

01:33:46.000 been a misspeaking but he i've confirmed this with like four or five people he said that she

01:33:49.620 conducted an unauthorized investigation into a political official which she had no point ever

01:33:55.340 did and if if he was actually saying that and it wasn't just a misspeaking um then that would of

01:34:00.900 course you would have to say who she was investigating put a name to it was it justin

01:34:04.440 trudeau was it was it the mayor of ottawa jim watson was it who was it was it doug ford

01:34:09.440 no she looked at nine records in her police system where she looks at hundreds of records a day

01:34:14.380 as a homicide as a detect not a homicide as a detective accessing the system 22 unauthorized

01:34:19.420 entry sounds really terrible doesn't it probably means scrolling to the bottom of the entire

01:34:23.380 did pdf of the pdf file and every single uh row is a unauthorized record act it's nonsense it's

01:34:30.680 like you didn't why you're obligated to protect and investigate these children you're missing

01:34:34.700 basic information you didn't do your due diligence she has to go and she does a a brief minute long

01:34:41.960 follow-up with a parent in private as a police officer and says hey was so and so vaccinated

01:34:48.240 and that was the end of it and all of us and she never concealed this she i think reported this to

01:34:53.480 people like asked people what hey why is why is this basic thing that we've been using my 20 years

01:34:58.280 here not on these forms well like this this is i've never seen this this is this is seems like

01:35:03.540 a bit of a problem here okay can we correct that so i mean it's important to drill that home so

01:35:08.500 when we yeah when we move forward with the appeal as that she announced the other day

01:35:13.660 uh where does it go now does it actually go to a court or is it another police apparently there's

01:35:19.280 another so there's another board that's like the uh i guess the provincial review for the

01:35:23.820 disciplinary meeting and then after that would be to the court of justice so this could go on for

01:35:28.380 the next five years more still more and i it's a shame because helen gruce is a beautiful woman 0.68

01:35:34.640 you saw her there she's a strong independent uh very intelligent woman who's totally driven by 0.77

01:35:41.520 her morals and her values as a police officer to do good by the victims that she serves and protects 0.99

01:35:47.760 to fill out basic information like the name of it on your test that you hand into your teacher 0.98

01:35:53.760 you're missing information that has never been missing before why and all she did was look that

01:36:00.000 up on their system and make a two-minute phone call to someone and it blew up into a two uh 1.00

01:36:05.540 hundreds of thousands of dollars in cost to defend her good name a two-year demotion with a 15 or 1.00

01:36:10.940 something thousand dollar pay cut and a delay of leadership positions that she was in that she was 1.00

01:36:16.320 well on her way to she passed her sergeant exam after that it's just politics and getting the 1.00

01:36:20.320 actual promotion you have to pass your exam first she with flying carpets as ricky would say

01:36:23.960 passed with flying carpets and uh she needs to be in leadership we need helen gruce in leadership

01:36:30.320 so it's a tragedy for my city that helen gruce has to endure this and as a good cop and can't

01:36:36.300 be where she should be in charge all right time's up you got to come back i mean we got to come back 0.67

01:36:42.160 i mean that's what i wanted to say it was a beautiful is a bad day beautiful because she

01:36:46.180 she doesn't give up she's undefeated these last 90 minutes have been it feels like 10 minutes to me

01:36:53.340 i mean and we've covered so much i mean this has been a great night and i want to thank you john

01:36:58.640 for coming on at right blend you guys find him on all the social medias on x instagram facebook all

01:37:03.700 the all the social medias at right thanks for giving me a soap uh soapbox brother dude this

01:37:08.020 has been great i loved it thank you come back soon come back alan gruce we all need to support her

01:37:14.120 because we need women like her we need people like her that's period doesn't matter the gender

01:37:17.920 she's a good person all right bro take it easy exist talk to you later there is right blend

01:37:24.600 john billeneuve you guys i mean that wow that's a great conversation about so many things

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01:39:25.420 ShadowDavis.com. Don't forget. Guys, I want to leave you with something that I put on the show

01:39:31.260 a couple of months ago. And I was amazed that there's people out there who are actually doing

01:39:40.020 this kind of investigation this guy's name is vesper now you may have heard me refer to him

01:39:45.300 before as as a guy who may be a part of the conservative media and when i say the conservative

01:39:53.480 media i mean the conservative party of canada media that he's on their payroll and that may be

01:39:58.160 i don't know those people and there's a few of them the accounts i'm not going to name here

01:40:05.100 because I've done it before and whatever, won't talk about certain things that the Conservative

01:40:11.000 Party of Canada doesn't talk about. But they do talk a lot about Mark Carney and his ties to

01:40:16.880 Brookfield. They don't go into the deeper aspects of it. They don't go into Mark Carney's ties with

01:40:23.180 the UN. They don't talk a lot about G-Fonts because now it becomes a complicated issue

01:40:29.080 and most normies by and large won't understand it. They haven't got the attention spent.

01:40:33.440 They don't want to take the time to understand who Mark Carney really is.

01:40:40.340 So if you guys want to go on X, look up Vesper and find this particular piece I'm about to play.

01:40:47.820 Get it out there. Share it. It's about nine, maybe 10 minutes long. It was released at the end of May.

01:40:54.560 And it's, I told him, I messaged him and said, dude, this is a great piece.

01:40:59.480 it's almost promethean action like he doesn't go in my opinion he doesn't go

01:41:07.520 quite far enough with his analysis but he breaks it down he breaks down who mark carney is

01:41:13.980 and what he's really doing to canada watch this finally found the clip and what clip am i talking

01:41:23.340 about and why does this matter you might be asking yourself i'm glad you asked because i'll tell you

01:41:27.660 why. Proof. And this is the whole point of why I'm doing this. Not guesses, not sensationalism,

01:41:33.500 not conspiracies. Documented proof. Because Mark Carney's nice, polished little resume,

01:41:39.720 you know, the one that the liberals and the mainstream media class have been fawning all

01:41:44.380 over, actually starts to look ugly the longer you peel back the layers of this onion. So let's

01:41:51.380 Rewind. Bank of England, United Nations, Brookfield, World Bank, GFANS, Climate Finance,

01:41:57.780 Advisor, Prime Minister. Sounds impressive, right? It is impressive. This is the whole point of this.

01:42:02.900 It sounds really good. It's very serious, very global, very like, don't worry, the adults are

01:42:09.700 in the room serious. Let me start over a little bit. This isn't just about Mark Carney's resume,

01:42:15.280 okay this is about breadcrumbs a trail that's been left for all of us and

01:42:20.920 thanks to the innovation of the internet we're able to capitalize on these

01:42:26.320 breadcrumbs slash trails one thing's for certain and you need to keep in mind

01:42:30.580 Mark Carney did not end his United Nations role for ESG to go work at

01:42:37.600 Brookfield no no no he was doing both at the same time and that's the part that's

01:42:43.480 the problem here one hat was the public hat you know the UN climate finance guy

01:42:49.720 for the world he's the guy helping push this big global massive out of this

01:42:55.900 world idea with massive piles of money so they can move it into the basically

01:43:01.360 the green sustainable sector and make it investable to save the planet of

01:43:06.460 course you know the trees the bees the oceans the children to avoid a sixth mass extinction

01:43:15.340 one of the things mr polyev is uh perhaps unlike you i accept that climate change is real we're

01:43:20.940 talking about the sixth mass extinction um and the issue to address it requires renewable energy

01:43:26.860 right that's what all this is about carny and then there's the other hat brookfield a giant

01:43:32.140 soul-sucking behemoth of an investment company basically looking at this whole climate push and

01:43:38.380 saying there's a shit ton of money here big money let's build products and yeah keep mentioning 0.98

01:43:44.220 birds and bees and that and that's where this gets ugly on one side carne is basically

01:43:49.100 helping to push the world towards climate financing and investing but on the other

01:43:53.900 side of this whole thing he's working for the company that sells this climate investing

01:43:58.220 same time, same guy, public climate hat, private money hat. It's like he's both the referee and

01:44:04.280 the star player for Brookfield Junior High. He's playing both sides at the same time. In any normal

01:44:10.140 universe, anyone would look at this and say, like, hold on, man, that's a serious breach of trust.

01:44:15.520 It's immoral. It's unethical. How could you be setting up the rules and then playing by the

01:44:20.500 rules that you just rigged? That's, I guess, how technocrats play this game, right? Rig it and then

01:44:25.920 play it. And that's where Bruce Flatt comes in. Bruce Flatt, CEO of Brookfield. And this is that

01:44:31.720 clip that I was talking to you about. So Bruce Flatt gets on camera, and this is in 2020, and

01:44:37.240 says out loud the part that's going to make all this click for you. Not hyperbole, not speculation,

01:44:43.700 not conjecture, evidence. He's not some critic. He's not some guy online. He's Brookfield's own

01:44:50.220 CEO. And I want you to listen carefully to this extract and how he talks. He's not talking about

01:44:56.540 saving the planet. He's not talking about birds, bees, and trees. He's talking about clients,

01:45:03.200 products, portfolios, and where the money is going. Just watch.

01:45:07.760 We think this can be very significant. It's a meaningful extension for us. And the business

01:45:13.400 never existed before. So we think this could be a $25 to $50 billion business for us.

01:45:20.220 and we've started up with a number of people

01:45:23.600 doing this within our organization.

01:45:25.280 You may have seen we brought into the business Mark Carney

01:45:30.280 who is one of the leaders in impact and ESG around the world.

01:45:34.780 We plan on creating a vertical of funds

01:45:38.080 which will have a theme of impact investing.

01:45:41.760 This is a very significant area of investment

01:45:45.460 for funds for the next 25 years.

01:45:49.080 We think this could be $50 to $100 billion AUM business.

01:45:54.060 Pause it right there.

01:45:55.020 Did you hear that?

01:45:55.640 Big institutional clients want ESG products.

01:45:59.200 He talks about moving assets around the world

01:46:01.420 into sustainable investments.

01:46:03.520 Translation, a giant pile of money is available.

01:46:06.780 And Brookfield wants to be as close as it can

01:46:09.260 to a seat at that table.

01:46:10.560 For the planet, of course, it's always for the planet

01:46:13.260 and the children and the bees.

01:46:14.660 Then comes this line.

01:46:15.740 Bruce Flatt, CEO of Brookfield, says,

01:46:17.500 Mark Carney and the things being done at the UN are going to help Brookfield tailor these

01:46:22.500 strategies for our client. Not for the trees, not for the bees, not for clean rivers and shit. 0.99

01:46:27.900 For clients. That's why this clip matters. He's talking like a CEO. Demand, products, clients, 0.99

01:46:34.120 strategies, leverage. And then in the middle of all that, he drops Mark Carney and the UN.

01:46:39.300 Carney's at the UN helping push climate change finance strategies. At the same time,

01:46:44.380 he's at brookfield helping build the esg products that fit within that world that he's building at

01:46:50.620 the u.n and bruce flat is just sitting there like nobody's gonna notice what they just did right

01:46:55.500 here please understand how serious this actually is not that you don't already understand the ceo

01:47:00.940 of brookfield is bragging about i have one of the regulators for esg who is setting up the rules

01:47:08.780 in the united nations at the world bank at the ifc oh and he just started working for us to help us

01:47:15.660 develop the products that we need so the regulator is now also the producer and everyone's clapping

01:47:21.180 for this that's the whole thing that's the business version not the save the planet version

01:47:25.500 not the green agenda version no the business version clients products portfolios asset transitions

01:47:32.780 strategies that's not a climate speech okay that's a money meeting a business meeting and

01:47:37.420 And Bruce Flatt just said this all out loud.

01:47:39.700 He just showed you the game and how this whole thing is basically rigged.

01:47:42.980 This is why this timeline matters and why this clip is vital documentation.

01:47:48.240 First, central banking, then climate risk, then the UN, then Brookfield, then slowly

01:47:53.400 inch into advisor in Canada, and then prime minister.

01:47:56.780 So climate starts out as a public issue.

01:47:58.840 And for some crazy reason, it then becomes a banking issue.

01:48:01.320 Then it becomes an investor issue.

01:48:03.100 Then it becomes a rulebook issue.

01:48:04.720 Then it becomes a product.

01:48:05.600 Then a shit ton of money goes into this product, and Mark Carney keeps showing up at the exact same spots where public speeches end up becoming private profit. Don't you find that weird? I mean, normal people hear climate action, and what do we think? Clean water, fresh air, and all that type of stuff. The birds, the bees, the trees. But then it gets handed over to bankers. That's the issue.

01:48:26.180 so now it's not pollution is bad anymore now it's basically clients want esg products suddenly it's

01:48:32.980 assets need to transition capital has to be mobilized strategies need to be tailored and

01:48:38.260 regular people like me are told hey pay more accept more rules and smile because i'm putting

01:48:43.860 a green leaf on a brochure see we're saving the planet i'm trying to strip away the cute branding

01:48:49.300 that all these people are putting on everything i want to get rid of all the investing language

01:48:53.460 the stakeholder language, the sustainability language, all the fancy language that people

01:48:58.700 who are too ambitious for their own good use for financial opportunity. Big clients want this,

01:49:04.040 big money is moving, Brookfield basically wants it. Carney at the UN is the one helping to build

01:49:08.920 that strategy. And then Carney becomes prime minister, of course. And this is where the

01:49:12.620 question becomes even more provocative because this isn't a guy anymore collecting just fancy

01:49:16.740 titles here and there anymore. It's not about that. This is a guy who was in the climate finance

01:49:21.120 world then he was in brookfield then he went into net zero and now he's inside the office that can

01:49:26.960 shape all of this and change any rules energy rule infrastructure rules public spending subsidies

01:49:33.440 approvals banking pressure pension pressure what gets funded what gets blocked what gets punished

01:49:38.320 what gets rewarded that's real power so if anyone ever tells you why would mark carney leave millions

01:49:42.960 of dollars on the table being the chair of this or that special envoy to this or to that and leave

01:49:48.720 all that to basically become a prime minister of a country for 400 000 plus change and leave behind

01:49:55.600 him on the table millions of dollars in salary from multiple companies beyond brookfield guy

01:50:01.120 like this is not chasing a salary the office is that prize the power is the prize the ability to

01:50:06.720 shape the rules around the strategies that you built that's the prize carney didn't drop the

01:50:12.320 un stuff the brookfield stuff for the money when he was going to ottawa to become prime minister he

01:50:16.800 He went from a guy that was inside the machine building it

01:50:19.940 to the guy that now gets to sit on the chair

01:50:22.240 to steer this machine that he just built for himself.

01:50:25.140 And this is why this clip is important.

01:50:26.920 The CEO of Brookfield just told you

01:50:28.700 the referee is now playing for Brookfield High

01:50:31.280 and then he becomes the prime minister

01:50:32.800 and gets to change the rules of Canada

01:50:34.440 in a way that with a majority would be very easy.

01:50:36.940 How are we supposed to react to this?

01:50:39.300 CBC tells you celebrate.

01:50:40.900 We have a great man in the office now. 1.00

01:50:43.060 That's the level of gaslighting bullshit 1.00

01:50:45.040 that every single person is being fed. 1.00

01:50:51.400 Vesper on X.

01:50:54.560 Go follow him.

01:50:55.720 I think he just started a YouTube channel as well.

01:50:57.580 He doesn't put out regular videos like that all the time

01:51:00.860 because it takes a lot to write it,

01:51:03.480 put it together, film it, edit it, all that stuff.

01:51:05.980 But I mean, that was released at the end of May

01:51:08.700 and that is absolutely amazing.

01:51:11.060 That is a very realistic look at who Mark Carney is and what he represents.

01:51:17.320 What Mark Carney represents, or actually who he represents, City of London, he is their

01:51:25.180 mouthpiece.

01:51:26.100 He is the new Klaus Schwab, and he's jamming ESG down our throats like it has been for

01:51:35.300 the past 10 years.

01:51:36.160 He's not going to get rid of it.

01:51:37.340 he is not going to turn canada back into the direction that it needs to be going in in order

01:51:44.200 to become an energy powerhouse like they keep saying it's absolute nonsense it's absolute bs

01:51:50.360 well the idea of it isn't the idea of them saying it is esg environmental social governance esg

01:51:58.860 scores all businesses in order to get certain tax breaks or licenses let's just say from governments

01:52:06.180 like the federal government of Canada, possibly provincial governments as well,

01:52:10.920 have to submit an ESG score.

01:52:13.780 Now, how do you do this?

01:52:14.680 Well, you have to prove that you're climate conscious.

01:52:17.920 Maybe you have to put out an advertising campaign in support of the Green New Deal.

01:52:29.440 Maybe it's as simple as throwing some money at a gay pride parade. 0.53

01:52:36.180 Maybe it's bringing in some DEI expert every couple of weeks

01:52:40.840 to have a consultation with staff members who are breaking the rules

01:52:44.860 because of their, you know, white supremacist-style attitude. 0.72

01:52:51.120 Sorry, white entitlement.

01:52:54.960 And when you do that enough, you build up a good ESG score, 0.99

01:52:58.560 which gives you a great rate to borrow money.

01:53:01.960 That's what GFONS was all about.

01:53:06.180 Now, why are they doing this?

01:53:08.340 As a method of control.

01:53:13.440 So that they can continue to gain wealth and power and make people fear everything.

01:53:22.060 Because then what happens?

01:53:24.400 They're easier to control.

01:53:29.240 I want you guys to look at this, because this is very important.

01:53:33.940 It's just developing.

01:53:36.180 Um, Juno News reported this about two hours before Showtime tonight, which was eight o'clock

01:53:43.320 central. Exclusive military intelligence identified digital IDs, CBDCs as tools of

01:53:51.100 authoritarian control. What? Now, this is something we've been hearing about for a while,

01:53:56.720 right? Military intelligence, though. Military intelligence warned liberals that digital IDs

01:54:06.100 CBDC were effective tools of authoritarian control. Interesting that they would warn the

01:54:11.640 liberals, considering the liberals are the ones who are more than likely behind it. But again,

01:54:16.220 let's not fall for political games. This is not about politics. This is about the city of London

01:54:22.200 and their banking cartel versus whatever interest Donald Trump represents, whether that's the United

01:54:28.820 States of America or some other group like the tech bros, Israel maybe, the entire Middle East

01:54:34.920 for that matter, is anybody's guess. But that's the war that's going on right now. And Mark Carney

01:54:42.440 is playing for the other team, as far as I'm concerned. He's on the black team.

01:54:47.820 Canadian military intelligence warned that digital identity, central bank, digital currency,

01:54:53.280 smart cities, and other digital technologies form the basis of an authoritarian tool kit

01:54:58.460 and architecture capable of surveillance and state control, especially when combined.

01:55:03.800 But provincial and federal governments are incrementally advancing the same technologies.

01:55:09.560 And this sentence should have the word anyway tacked to the end of it.

01:55:17.440 But provincial and federal governments are incrementally advancing the same technologies anyway.

01:55:24.760 Juneau News obtained a 2024 Canadian Forces Intelligence Command assessment after a lengthy and fraught access to information process.

01:55:32.860 The request was filed more than a year ago by Juno and sought 12 records, but only one has been disclosed so far.

01:55:40.380 Much of the material was initially considered too sensitive, with the intelligence assessment itself marked top-secret Canadian eyes only.

01:55:48.720 I'm assuming that means federal government, elected, and bureaucratic officials, probably.

01:55:55.120 Significant portions remain withheld for national security reasons.

01:55:58.940 What? Why don't they just say it's a conspiracy theory?

01:56:02.860 just brush it off. That's a conspiracy theory. Nothing to worry about. Just the

01:56:07.580 quackos online again. You know how they are. But instead, oh, no, no. We've got to withhold this 1.00

01:56:14.620 for national security reasons. The partially disclosed material examines how authoritarian

01:56:21.660 governments like Russia, China. Again, I don't believe that Russia is an authoritarian government,

01:56:28.960 But use digital technologies to monitor their populations, restrict individual behavior and reinforce state control.

01:56:37.920 So if you are a member of Juno News, you can go there and you can read the whole thing.

01:56:43.520 All right. That's it for the show tonight, you guys. Thank you for being here again.

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