The Shadoe Davis Show - Common Sense candidate running for Wpg School Board Sandra Saint-Cyr on the show!

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00:03:00.000 Hello, everybody, and welcome to Shadow at Night.

00:03:28.980 This is Tuesday, May the 28th, 2024, and on the show tonight, special guest is Sandra St. Cyr.

00:03:36.020 Sandra is running for the vacant school trustee seat in the writing, or the district, of Louis Riel School Division in Winnipeg.

00:03:45.940 She is hoping to replace former trustee Francine Champagne, who resigned her seat after all kinds of pressure from other board members,

00:03:54.040 not necessarily the public that voted her in.

00:03:56.340 it's an incredibly horrible tale and one of these days we'll have francine come on and tell us about

00:04:02.260 it but tonight you're going to meet an incredibly energetic and positive woman who has been in

00:04:10.620 public education for well in this in this uh school district i think since 1992 of course

00:04:18.520 she can correct me if i'm wrong on that sandra st cyr is coming on in just a second and in our

00:04:25.120 conversation this afternoon she said she has had overwhelming support from most of the people in

00:04:30.640 that district so i'm looking forward to hearing what she has to say the shadow at night live

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00:09:06.180 as we possibly can all right from sandra saint sears website it's sandrafortrustee.ca

00:09:13.280 I'm going to read you a little bit about Sandra before we bring her on here.

00:09:18.060 Sandra is a dedicated educator with a long-standing commitment to the Louis Riel St. Vitale School Division,

00:09:24.660 supporting students and families since 1992.

00:09:28.320 Her teaching career, which began in northern Manitoba in 1985, has been marked by a diverse set of roles,

00:09:34.280 including counselor, student services teacher, special education program teacher, classroom teacher.

00:09:39.040 um dedicated to family she's been married to chris for 37 years four adult kids now sandra's

00:09:45.840 candidacy for school trustee is driven by her desire to serve as a voice for families of the

00:09:51.780 louis riel school division ward one as a parent sandra served a three-year term as parent advisory

00:09:58.560 committee chair and provided before and after school care and private tutoring in her home

00:10:03.360 she goes above and beyond. Dedicated to education, Sandra's dedication extends beyond the traditional

00:10:09.640 school setting as she explores the broader educational landscape through her work with

00:10:13.820 independent schools. Her goal is to gain a comprehensive understanding of education,

00:10:18.880 ensuring that she can represent the changing needs of the community. Wow, sounds pretty

00:10:25.460 impressive. But you know, on the other hand, I guess to some people, Sandra, you sound like a

00:10:30.100 complete wingnut probably no you know what in all seriousness because when i asked you on our

00:10:37.900 telephone conversation this afternoon have you had any pushback you said very little so i went

00:10:44.060 looking for your website through a search engine earlier this afternoon just to read a little bit

00:10:49.180 more about you because you know you you tend to want to know about your guests before you bring

00:10:53.400 them on the show and i i found a reddit thread on you and this was it seemed like anyway a bunch

00:10:59.700 of basement trolls sitting there, you know, typing on their screens about another anti-trans

00:11:04.940 candidate in the Louis Riel School Division. And I went, oh my goodness, they have no concept. 0.62

00:11:09.760 They don't live in reality. What made you decide to run for this seat, knowing what

00:11:16.480 the previous trustee went through? Well, hi. Thank you for having me on. It's a wonderful

00:11:23.340 opportunity. Thank you for coming on. Anything. I do want to thank you and I want to thank

00:11:28.800 manitoba stronger together because they are supporting me and and ken drysdale and chris

00:11:34.800 riddell and ken lee as well i i can't say enough about how much it has meant to me to have these

00:11:43.080 people backing my campaign and helping me in the day-to-day figuring this out as we go ahead so

00:11:49.160 all very very good people absolutely excellent excellent and my team of of friends and friends

00:11:55.540 of friends who are you know hitting the streets and knocking on doors and putting up signs and

00:12:00.820 scrutineering it's it's an amazing experience actually I'm so thrilled and I'm having a lot

00:12:06.700 of fun doing it so as far as pushback yeah I'm you know what maybe my view is that we aren't on

00:12:14.820 different sides my view is that we've just gotten off track and and we can get back on track and so

00:12:21.840 you know i i've had good questions on my on my um website from from my emails and and they're

00:12:30.340 not always people that i might agree in everything but we've had really civil and excellent

00:12:34.980 conversations and we do appreciate each other's points of view and that's what we need to be able

00:12:40.000 to do in this day well it's uh difficult getting to that point these days because it seems like

00:12:46.460 whenever we talk to, I'm not going to say everybody from, and again, you know, you say

00:12:51.020 two sides and we shouldn't have two sides. We should have one side and we should all be working

00:12:56.340 together. But when you talk to people who have been highly indoctrinated into this new way of

00:13:02.420 thinking, into this D-E-I-C-R-T way of thinking, it's almost impossible to reason with them because

00:13:09.480 it feels like we're in alternate realities somehow. Have you had an experience like that

00:13:14.660 at all? I actually had one not too long ago at a door just knocking in the community and

00:13:22.760 you know campaigning and sometimes the language throws us off right and so

00:13:31.220 we did have an encounter with a lovely lady who you know wasn't sure what we were all about and

00:13:38.580 and you know she had some statements and we sort of clarified and we found common ground which was

00:13:46.920 really exciting because when we left it was like oh it was so good to meet you and she felt the

00:13:51.720 same way about us and we did find common ground and that it's that parents should be informed

00:13:56.940 always no matter what's going on a parent needs to know what's happening with their child

00:14:02.720 and and I haven't found anyone who disagrees with that. Can I ask how you found this common ground?

00:14:10.380 Because usually again and this is only my experience and I'm a bit of a lightning rod

00:14:16.600 for these folks. I mean people will drive by me and they'll give me the finger in their cars right

00:14:21.120 I mean it's I've had that happen lots in the last week especially but I mean how would you be able

00:14:26.840 to even start a conversation like that and then find that common ground because I think that's a

00:14:32.420 very important thing well i think what happens often is assumptions are made on either side of

00:14:38.780 the coin right is assumptions are made and so when we listen really listen to each other and listen

00:14:45.620 more than we want to speak and then ask questions to understand then we can get above the the surface

00:14:55.240 This rhetoric and the thinking of the day, the propaganda, you know, we can get past it.

00:15:05.880 And that was a good example.

00:15:07.900 And actually, it ended up being a very positive thing.

00:15:10.860 And I was thinking, oh, you know, maybe I'll just cut this short and walk away.

00:15:15.000 But no, it was a good thing to stay in here.

00:15:18.860 And like I said, we found common ground.

00:15:21.220 So that's a sort of a little snapshot of what's possible when we listen, we don't make assumptions, we don't associate people with groups, but we listen to the individual right in front of us. And that's what we need to stop putting people in lumps of groups and think we know what's going on in their hearts and in their heads. We need to hear each other as individuals.

00:15:46.180 so this woman and we're not naming names here or anything like that that's inappropriate but

00:15:53.080 many many amazing conversations i've had at doorways i did not know how much fun this was

00:15:59.260 i just may keep doing it no i want to go back to this conversation that you were having uh when

00:16:04.820 you first realized what you what you were up against what did she hit you with uh things

00:16:11.560 coming from the states that was how she said it uh trump things fascists all this i don't know i

00:16:19.140 don't know where it came from right we don't know um and and that can be a fear you know a fearful

00:16:25.940 thing to to think oh this is coming from somewhere and they want to make a bunch of rules and

00:16:30.960 you know it's an assumption and i could have made assumptions about her as well but you know to stop

00:16:38.740 ourselves from grouping each other we just really need to listen we just need to look at the person

00:16:44.900 and hear what's going on you are a christian you're a follower of jesus christ uh i believe

00:16:51.860 you and your family go to springs church i haven't seen you there yet but uh i'll i'll definitely

00:16:56.800 look for you i saw you on your baptism night oh did you that's awesome thank you um that's really

00:17:05.400 cool um so when people find that out about you and people have been finding that out about me

00:17:14.100 it's not like i'm shy to say it i'm not but they tend to look at you especially people from that

00:17:21.320 other side as well you're just a bible banger christian cult member you're you know because

00:17:26.280 they they equate spring somehow with cult have you found a lot of christian bashing

00:17:31.660 um you know what i mean it's out there for sure uh personally in my life i'm not aware because

00:17:40.460 nobody's saying that to your face generally they're saying it somewhere else i don't know

00:17:45.260 where i don't really have social media i i i don't know i just like to keep the main thing

00:17:54.240 the main thing and i will always uh share my faith and you know you can't separate it from

00:18:00.180 who you are there there is no category that it belongs in it's it's through everything we do and

00:18:06.560 if you look back in in the history of Canada and history of the world you'll see that so so much

00:18:13.340 progress hospital schools all kinds of you know valuable institutions at the time was started

00:18:19.660 you know by people of faith and so we can't we can't make assumptions about that either

00:18:26.140 You know, whether you say you have faith or don't have faith, believe Jesus or don't follow Jesus or don't.

00:18:33.800 Our lives will show the fruit of of the extent to which we really appropriate, you know, what the word of God says.

00:18:46.700 And so when we take it and we live it, it doesn't matter so much what anyone thinks, because there's just such great joy and peace.

00:18:54.640 And so we just go forward and let our lives speak for themselves, speak for itself.

00:19:01.080 Sandra St. Cyr, guys, in case you're just joining the show right now, is running for school trustee, the vacant seat in Louis Riel School Division, the one that was vacated by Francine Champagne not so long ago.

00:19:11.500 she was driven out. To me, it was underhanded. It was, to use the word, bigoted. It was unfair. It

00:19:20.520 was cruel what they did, not just the way they did it, but how they spread the word in the left-wing

00:19:28.520 corporate media, as I call it. We've had other stories about school trustees who have been

00:19:34.300 vilified across the country. There's one in Red Deer. There have been several in Ontario.

00:19:39.640 we've got one up in Dauphin right now who may or may not be facing the province for misconduct

00:19:46.660 and the education minister of Manitoba with all of this and I'm sure you've heard of all of this

00:19:52.660 Sandra what made you want to do this I mean you're going to be facing quite a bit of backlash and I

00:19:58.640 understand that you're open-minded and open-hearted about hearing other points of view but it's

00:20:05.520 possible that they could try to label you as an anti this or a phobia that and um you know it could

00:20:13.500 create a lot of stress in your life I'm sure these are things that you've you've thought about but

00:20:17.860 went ahead anyway well that's it's a very good question and I've been asked it a number of times

00:20:24.220 and I guess I can honestly say I'm not concerned and I'm not concerned because

00:20:30.920 Because L'Oreal, you know, I worked in L'Oreal for 25 years, very good experiences, excellent training.

00:20:42.440 Some of the people on the current board are my colleagues.

00:20:45.400 And, you know, I look forward to having an opportunity to work together.

00:20:50.720 You know, big organizations get off track and they can get back on track.

00:20:56.040 And I don't know what that will look like.

00:20:57.800 And I don't have I'm not pretending I have answers for things, but I am saying that I can bring a voice to the table that's looking for solutions.

00:21:07.940 And it's not me that I represent. It's the people in word one, first of all, who who are voting.

00:21:16.180 And I put a great deal of faith in families and parents.

00:21:20.220 They will see the options and they will recognize what they want and they will speak up.

00:21:25.540 And so I'm not representing me. I'm representing the community. And so I just I believe I believe in the families and I know that they will make a choice and it will be evident who they want to partner with.

00:21:41.740 And I really intend to create sort of like a parent council that I can be in regular communication with, whether that's Zoom meetings or face-to-face or surveys.

00:21:56.780 But I don't want to go in there speaking for me.

00:21:59.420 I want to go in speaking for the public because public school is a little dis you know there's a

00:22:07.580 disconnect in that planning and what's being delivered from what the public may want and so

00:22:14.640 we need to find unity in that and we need to respect the parents wishes we need to respect

00:22:20.980 the parents um are the people who give consent not the children and um and I believe we can get

00:22:28.140 there so let me ask you you've been out uh canvassing campaigning speaking to people as you

00:22:34.740 pointed out what is the majority saying to you they want parental rights but there's like are

00:22:40.260 people scared that if they speak out they're going to be attacked i mean what is the mood in the

00:22:45.120 community um well it's it's been extremely agreeable like i say completely enjoyable i've

00:22:52.320 I've just met people of all ages, grandparents, parents, people with no children in the system, people who, you know, are kind of out of it.

00:23:01.920 But it's been wonderful to have conversations and just let them know that their voices make a difference, that we do need transparency and that there isn't anyone that doesn't believe parents should know what's going on with their children.

00:23:17.680 and we have all of the systems in place in that very very rare situation where a child is in

00:23:28.180 distress be it you know neglect or abuse or something at home we have all of those systems

00:23:33.000 in place and they work we have excellent resources and excellent clinicians to help

00:23:37.980 so there's no reason for us to any in any kind of large-scale way keep any information from parents

00:23:44.640 and it doesn't matter what the topic is it doesn't it doesn't matter uh it's not the topic itself

00:23:50.240 it's that the school and the parent we need to work together and so i haven't met Sandra let me

00:23:56.940 ask you i mean if the community and i would take a sample from the community that you're running in

00:24:03.240 and just transfer it to any community in the city or the country for that matter because we have

00:24:08.060 viewers watching from all across the country and even out of the country and it seems to me

00:24:13.360 that what you're saying is that the vast majority of people believe that parents should know what's

00:24:18.180 going on. So when, when this is brought up, when we hear the, the, the expression parental rights

00:24:23.460 come up, why is it that certain school boards, certain members of school boards, certain members

00:24:30.020 of certain political parties will stand up and say, no, we need the privacy and, and people back

00:24:36.720 down from that and i guess that that term parental rights has become a little um it may be a little

00:24:44.780 warped and twisted so that's not um vocabulary that i use a parent outside of all the things

00:24:51.580 you might call rights the parent has responsibility and it is a huge responsibility they are more

00:24:56.840 invested in their child than any teacher ever will be they're there from beginning to end they're

00:25:01.820 there you know they're driving to soccer they're you know putting the band-aids on they're they are

00:25:09.100 doing the um day in and day out night and day work of parenting they're the parents yeah they're the

00:25:16.480 parents and so teaching our teachers and i think parents should parent and teachers should teach

00:25:21.700 and then we should find those places where we can support each other um so i i rarely think of

00:25:27.740 parental rights. But I think of it as it is our full responsibility. These are our children. And

00:25:36.160 during the school day, when they're at school, we do place our trust in the teachers. And as a

00:25:43.540 teacher, I can't imagine a more valuable thing that someone could leave at my care ever. It's

00:25:51.280 your child. And so, you know, we're on the same team. We have to be. And if we're not,

00:25:58.260 there's something drastically wrong. There is something drastically wrong, Sandra.

00:26:04.140 You've been a teacher since 1985. As you pointed out on your website says, you started in northern

00:26:11.080 Manitoba, then you moved here in 1992. You've been associated with the Louis Riel School Division

00:26:16.240 since 1992. You saw this diversity, equity, inclusion thing start to creep in. You were

00:26:22.880 telling me on the phone earlier today, about 12, 13 years ago, and also the critical race theory

00:26:30.780 or just critical theory or SOGI123 as it's known in other areas. When did you see it first start

00:26:39.280 to creep in and how did you notice it? Just to clarify, I don't believe that there's SOGI123

00:26:47.560 here. That's a comprehensive sex education, but it is on the horizon. They are going to update

00:26:57.300 our healthy living curriculum. So SOGI123, which is in BC and probably other provinces,

00:27:05.200 I don't know if it's here yet or will come in that form.

00:27:09.680 But back in 2011, we had a cohort of books come into our division, into all of the schools.

00:27:18.720 I'm just always really, I'm always really curious about education.

00:27:25.820 I love to learn myself.

00:27:27.760 I've had, like I say, so many good training courses in LRSD.

00:27:32.260 and they've been uh you know they've extended my skills as an educator and um i'm grateful

00:27:40.480 for that internal training because it's been top notch um so when big changes happen you know you

00:27:49.340 pay attention to where's it coming from what's it all about um and so some materials came into

00:27:54.440 our libraries that i just started to read because i figured that was my responsibility and um

00:28:02.260 And not every teacher takes the time to do that, but I had the time to do it.

00:28:06.960 So I did.

00:28:07.500 I began to read and I was a little surprised at some of the content of the books in a K-8 school.

00:28:16.140 How were you seeing, Sandra?

00:28:17.680 What kinds of content were you seeing even back then?

00:28:20.940 Well, I would call it not age appropriate.

00:28:23.220 Now I've come to really detest that term because nobody defines age appropriate.

00:28:27.800 we throw it around all the time but there's no there's no use to that term because one person's

00:28:33.900 age appropriate is not another person's age appropriate it may not be the parents age

00:28:37.500 appropriate so it really is such a a nebulous term but I was concerned at the content in a

00:28:44.220 k-8 school and I was concerned that maybe parents weren't aware of of the content of the books and

00:28:54.000 i began to read like just to read them all there was a big cohort of books maybe 38 40 books in

00:29:00.460 every school and i found some um i found some very difficult things um um i would say um topics

00:29:11.260 of you know addiction and topics of pornography and very high highly highly highly unusually

00:29:23.980 dysfunctional families um and it's not so much the content i think in these books as the way

00:29:31.220 it's presented exactly but what i did see was that um there were a number of books that were

00:29:39.280 like next level egregiously wrong uh actually directing children to look up pornography online

00:29:44.820 and and i began to uh look into our own policies in in lrsd and to see what can be done like who

00:29:53.840 how what's the process who do I have a conversation um I I did want to be on the the committee that

00:30:02.280 was struck to to choose to select these new books or to to preview them but I wasn't selected for

00:30:09.300 that which is fine I could you know read them on my own so knowing that they were selected

00:30:15.620 um I I thought what what's happening because this stuff is in there telling children to actually

00:30:23.780 and we had very strict uh internet policies in the division at the time quite strict and

00:30:31.180 meaning that they had no access to the internet and if they did it was only a few websites they

00:30:37.000 had to sign agreements they had to use it properly you know so i thought why are these books telling

00:30:43.080 kids to now go home or go wherever and look at pornography uh you know straight out i was i was

00:30:52.120 amazed that this could possibly be in there. And I thought, well, either the committee never

00:30:56.400 read them thoroughly. And so it's a very serious oversight, or maybe they know it's there and then

00:31:04.160 it's even worse. So there wasn't any good side to it that I could find. So I began to write

00:31:08.920 adjudications. At the time, a teacher, anyone in the community can write an adjudication against

00:31:14.240 the material to question it. It goes to an informal process, and then it goes to a formal

00:31:19.560 process and we went through the processes and eventually um the three of the books that I wrote

00:31:26.760 adjudications for were completely removed from the entire division all the libraries so that was um

00:31:32.880 that was a relief three of 40 three and then well I mean I was writing adjudications there were some

00:31:39.580 other complications in there and then a few more were moved up from the k to eight level into the

00:31:43.880 high school so I picked what I thought were the most obvious that I would have success with

00:31:54.640 that didn't line up with our curriculum that actually went against what we were teaching

00:31:59.640 about healthy safe lifestyles so those were the kinds of evidences that I used here's what's

00:32:07.240 happening there's no resolution and it's completely against the curriculum that we teach

00:32:12.980 Not only that, it's pointing children towards pornography.

00:32:16.420 So in those adjudications, I was successful, and that was great.

00:32:25.400 A number of years later, when one of my own children was in high school,

00:32:30.580 there was a fairly, actually a very nasty novel that I brought forward,

00:32:36.600 and we ended up doing another challenge.

00:32:40.720 the process had changed a little bit by then and it ended up going to committee uh the committee met

00:32:46.460 um and they voted to to keep that book it wasn't just on the shelf in the library it was actually

00:32:52.720 on the reading list and what was the most concern to me then was that when I met with the teacher

00:32:58.560 and expressed like the very graphic content uh she she said there's really no guidelines for what

00:33:05.480 they can choose and i thought well that's strange there's there's got to be guidelines um you know

00:33:11.880 and i sort of just kept asking questions i i just kept asking questions and um it's very unclear

00:33:18.200 this whole age appropriate thing it's very unclear and let me ask you a question i mean

00:33:25.340 i understand that again if you guys are just joining late here this is sandra saints here

00:33:29.960 thank you sandra for coming on tonight she's running for trustee in winnipeg's louis riel

00:33:34.880 School Division District 1. Do we know who is responsible ultimately for bringing these books

00:33:44.600 into the schools, or is it a number of different people? Does it come from the government? Does

00:33:50.100 it come from a bureaucrat? Where is this coming from? Yeah, well, I can't pretend to know the

00:33:56.840 direct pathway and the answers to all that, but it's coming in through our libraries. It's not

00:34:01.300 in the curriculum it's clearly not in the curriculum it does come in through the libraries

00:34:06.860 which have very very I guess at that time back in 2011 one of the librarians shared with me some

00:34:12.640 documents about their philosophy as librarians and I was completely unaware and it basically

00:34:19.060 was that we are as adults not to be the keepers of the knowledge that children should be have

00:34:25.800 access to everything and that if we don't give them access to everything we are somehow censoring

00:34:31.540 and so i mean that's something i fundamentally disagree with i feel like children need protection

00:34:37.680 they are not ready they can't comprehend it's it's it's very damaging for them to to have

00:34:44.300 information that they can't process yet and that's the beauty of childhood it's that innocence that

00:34:50.140 and that joy and that trust that that you know makes being a teacher an awesome thing

00:34:55.440 so i don't think we should mess with that i really don't so this is where we we find one

00:35:00.880 of the first disconnects in this whole dei crt thing that were whatever they're they're trying

00:35:06.760 to bring in uh into the curriculums is that there are people who believe the complete opposite of

00:35:12.880 what you just said so from there how on earth is there any kind of common ground this is to me

00:35:19.520 black and white. There is no negotiation on this one. Well, I guess that's where parents and

00:35:27.020 families come in. If parents and families are unaware of the, the hard reality of what's being

00:35:36.140 taught, if they're unaware, then they cannot have a voice and we cannot make changes and come to a

00:35:44.040 new place. So that's been sort of the struggle for me is to bring awareness to parents. There are

00:35:51.320 policies in the school division and there are protocols. Protocols are the guidelines for how

00:35:57.480 those policies are going to be implemented. And they're hard to find. I talked to administrators

00:36:03.220 who didn't know those protocols were there. So teachers don't know the protocols are there.

00:36:08.700 I didn't know they were there and I was still teaching in the division. So that was a little

00:36:13.520 shocking because those protocols are the things that I want parents to be aware of. And I'm not

00:36:19.860 saying that I know what protocols should be there. What I'm saying is we need to have

00:36:26.000 discussion about this. As a teacher, we were not discussing these things in staff meetings.

00:36:31.400 We were not discussing them in our planning time together. We're very consumed by doing other

00:36:40.380 things but there just didn't seem to be any open dialogue that would accept various points of view

00:36:48.600 we weren't having professional conversations about it and we certainly weren't having parental

00:36:53.340 conversations about it so how is this coming down and coming through without the main stakeholders

00:37:00.720 teachers and families having some awareness and dialogue so we are seeing too though that there

00:37:08.460 are certain people within the school system that are actively campaigning against parents knowing

00:37:14.900 what's going on with their kids in schools so where do we start with people like that well i i just

00:37:20.760 don't understand that if it weren't for the parents we wouldn't we wouldn't be doing what

00:37:25.360 weren't for the families i don't know um i have been told that you know when we had the education

00:37:33.240 Commission, the review many years ago when the division and the city were having forums about

00:37:39.940 various topics so that people could make their thoughts known about reforming our education

00:37:48.960 system. And I met a number of teachers there, attended them because I was interested.

00:37:54.580 And I met teachers, parents, all kinds of people there. And some teachers thought,

00:37:59.440 you know some teachers were very angry with me because they said like how do you expect you know

00:38:06.300 it would be nice in the real world if you could you know collaborate with parents but that was

00:38:13.100 the main part of my job so i don't know how you're a teacher without collaborating with parents

00:38:18.560 and trusting them because there's pta associations there's parent teacher nights all the time i mean

00:38:25.880 It was something that my parents personally, even all those years ago, looked forward to.

00:38:30.880 I want to see how you're doing in school, like right from your teacher's face, my dad would say.

00:38:35.380 And I'd go, oh, okay, dad, have a good time tonight.

00:38:38.320 You need to close that communication loop, right?

00:38:41.300 You need to close that gap so that the child knows mom and dad and teacher are all for me.

00:38:48.180 They're all on my side.

00:38:49.680 This is my support team.

00:38:52.040 And like, that's just the way I see it.

00:38:54.840 I don't think all teachers do, but that is the way I see it.

00:38:57.860 And so they've given me their child.

00:38:59.360 I'm going to give them, you know, the trust that they deserve,

00:39:04.560 that they've shown to me.

00:39:06.800 I don't know.

00:39:07.460 I can't speak for other teachers who don't enjoy that part of the job.

00:39:14.640 I don't understand it.

00:39:16.020 And so, you know, the thing is with children,

00:39:19.600 um the parents are vulnerable and so are the children the parents have for generations like

00:39:29.200 you say trusted school it's been a trusted place a trusted institution um we have collaborated

00:39:37.220 uh now i just believe that we're off track in a way that the the transparency isn't there um

00:39:45.720 and and we've gotten off into teaching so many different things DEI being one of them there's

00:39:55.020 so many different social pushes that I can't imagine how a teacher we never can get through

00:40:02.000 the whole curriculum it is so huge just the is DEI an act I'm sorry to interrupt you is DEI an

00:40:09.160 active part of the curriculum now and I'm not talking about its own course but it's kind of

00:40:13.920 infused into every topic, right? Like math is DEI. I mean, some math can be racist or bigoted

00:40:20.380 somehow. Yes, we, we have a DEI. They're really just working on, I believe curriculum, but we do

00:40:28.380 have a huge push for DEI in the division. And I, that's something I don't understand because I

00:40:40.120 think it's trotting on the parents role more than it is the teacher lane and when you go out and

00:40:49.340 and I agree with you when you go out and campaign you're knocking on doors you're talking to the

00:40:53.300 community and DEI comes up I'm sure that you're the one that has to bring it up because are people

00:41:00.840 even aware of this no no and you know I've had some amazing emails from dads I have to just

00:41:07.000 say I've had some amazing emails from dads and and I love the way dads communicate they don't

00:41:13.260 beat around the bush they come straight out and ask you the question you know what do you think

00:41:17.060 about this what do you think about that what do you think about this and I answer them directly

00:41:22.000 straight back and they're very supportive they're very supportive because I believe

00:41:27.480 the parents and families are ready to to ready to speak up and ready to say enough of this other

00:41:34.580 stuff i want a good education for my child and i don't want perhaps i don't want the school

00:41:42.340 division um you know socially engineering our community along the way so kids our kids yeah

00:41:52.880 they're not we're putting so much pressure on them i it blows my mind it really it's painful

00:42:01.600 to think about a child in grade three or grade four who's just gotten to a really I taught grade

00:42:10.380 three and four I went back into the classroom during COVID because we needed more classroom

00:42:14.360 teachers and some of the specialist teachers as I was at the time you know needed to be either

00:42:20.540 assigned there but I volunteered I felt like it was something I really was prepared to do

00:42:26.160 And I volunteered to go and into the classroom again. I hadn't been in the classroom directly in 26 years. But, you know, I had just really gained so much great training and expertise and experience. I thought, I want to do this. I want to build a community again, because it had been so long.

00:42:44.960 And there are so many rewards working with the struggling learners, so many rewards.

00:42:50.400 But there are different rewards as a teacher building a community in a classroom.

00:42:55.160 And that was the greatest joy.

00:42:57.920 I didn't know it would be my last year of teaching in LRSD at the time, but I'm so glad

00:43:02.860 because it was the best year ever.

00:43:05.380 But during that year, some books came into my classroom on the library cart.

00:43:09.840 Our library was being used as a classroom, so the kids couldn't visit the library.

00:43:14.540 it came to us and I noticed some materials on there that were that were I think difficult for

00:43:20.960 young kids grade three and four they're very young they've just gotten to that stage where

00:43:25.380 they're a little bit more independent they've gained some some mastery some skills both socially

00:43:32.260 and physically and academically in all those domains and they love school generally they

00:43:39.620 trust their teacher, love their teacher, like it's a sweet spot in life. And I was concerned

00:43:45.660 that the books that were coming in on the cart, no one was having a conversation with the child.

00:43:53.060 Essentially, that student could read the book while sitting in the class.

00:43:57.160 I wasn't teaching that content. It wasn't anywhere in the curriculum. The parent might not be aware

00:44:03.900 where the child's reading it and it it's it's just so much to comprehend so i did i did visit

00:44:12.540 my administrators and say like i'm not i really don't want these types of materials coming in my

00:44:18.660 classroom they're very young i don't think it's age appropriate um well and it turned out i just

00:44:23.440 didn't have a vote in the matter so um i was advised to just you know shut your mouth and

00:44:29.960 and smile did you did you have other teachers who agreed with you but were too afraid to speak up

00:44:35.800 and go through the process i believe that's a secret of secrets is that yeah there's a lot

00:44:41.560 of teachers who just want to shut the door and pretend it's not there i feel so much for the

00:44:47.600 teachers like we've lost our voice too you know the parents have lost their voice we've lost their

00:44:52.360 voice i mean we we we really have and people are afraid and and they don't want to lose their jobs

00:44:59.880 what are they you see this this is the thing though i mean like if we all stand up sandra

00:45:04.320 again i'm sorry to interrupt you if they all stand up and say no we're not doing this it's

00:45:09.520 ridiculous i mean clearly you you've been out there campaigning you've been knocking on doors

00:45:14.600 you know what the majority really says i had billboard chris on the show a few months ago 0.91

00:45:19.440 he says i stand on street corners in london england i stand on street corners in madrid i

00:45:23.940 stand on street corners in seattle and the majority 99 of the people all say once they find

00:45:30.320 out about it everything that you and i have been talking about well that's just effed they say

00:45:35.560 sometimes people don't want to find out about it and this is the difficult thing uh what i found

00:45:42.980 when i was writing those adjudications back in 2011 and i mean it was a rough situation i'm not

00:45:49.900 going to go into it but it was a rough situation and I was basically told stop it but I didn't

00:45:55.060 because I was following policy and it meant something to me and it meant something to these

00:46:00.000 children and families and so and so when I would tell the other teachers about it they they just

00:46:05.680 really didn't believe me sweet as they were I mean colleagues that you know I work closely with

00:46:11.220 every day but they don't want to get involved in that they want to do their jobs and I guess

00:46:16.260 But aren't they under pressure to show the kids in their classes that same stuff that you were?

00:46:21.800 I think you can avoid it a great deal.

00:46:23.480 Well, yeah, their kids would be signing it out for sure, for sure.

00:46:27.860 But back to that little story, you know what happened was I told my administrators that I would be informing parents

00:46:33.340 because I could not in good faith send.

00:46:38.360 Let a child read that without some parental awareness, number one, and some adult guidance.

00:46:46.260 um so i did call home i called home every time a child signed a book out which which had content

00:46:53.580 that was new and different than than what i love how you're so very very nice about the way you

00:47:03.440 describe this crap that they're pushing on the kids in school oh this content is different

00:47:08.220 well you know what i called the parents they were always so sweet and thanked me 0.97

00:47:15.840 they thanked me i just said look this is what it is i don't know you know what you believe as a

00:47:22.500 family what you teach your children but i just want you to be aware because you're the parent

00:47:26.880 that's it i'm not judging just just be aware you're the parent this is your domain you need

00:47:32.240 to know i don't want the child reading that without some adult you know intervention or

00:47:38.680 some help some conversation some clarification anything so anyway what would happen is every day

00:47:44.920 every time i made a call the child would you know come back to school the next day bring the book up

00:47:50.740 mrs st sir i need to go put this back in the library and i'd say go right ahead no you know

00:47:56.420 no big deal they would just go put it back but no parents came in and asked questions or look

00:48:01.100 no parents complained no parents spoke up we were in covid was a perfect time to 0.98

00:48:06.080 to bring in the crap because everybody had their heads down trying to survive and and you know what 0.97

00:48:13.880 it was a difficult time. We know it was a difficult time and it was hard for kids. And, 0.98

00:48:19.780 you know, my job at that time with my beautiful, beautiful class who named themselves the Bubble

00:48:26.240 Squad, my job was to just have an awesome, fun time learning and to, you know, to love each other

00:48:33.680 in a community that would understand that we're all imperfect and we're all doing the best we can

00:48:40.400 and we're going to support each other and go forward so you ever had a parent come in uh

00:48:46.720 sandra incensed that his or her nine-year-old son is now insisting that he is a she and wants

00:48:54.900 to wear dresses and go to girl scouts and i mean has that happened have you seen that it's not

00:49:00.340 not happened yet no it's never happened to me um uh but you know i know that there are other

00:49:07.800 teachers who have lost their jobs now I've read so many things I have to think about where this

00:49:14.300 took place I believe it was in the states but a teacher lost her job because she spoke up prior

00:49:19.840 to it ever happening and just said I won't be I won't be affirming I won't I won't I'm not able

00:49:25.820 to do that I'm not qualified to do that it's it's you know I won't be and she lost her job it never

00:49:32.340 did happen but they fired her anyway because she wasn't willing to affirm gender change in a child

00:49:40.040 and well to me that's all all that is is enabling psychosis really i mean it's like giving a drug

00:49:46.460 addict drugs like the government is doing in british columbia thing about it is

00:49:51.580 we are teachers we are not psychologists we are not so social workers we have these experts

00:50:02.200 available in our school um when i found that document that was released actually have it

00:50:08.760 right here it was released in 2017 uh called supporting gender transgender and gender diverse

00:50:15.520 students in Manapurba when I saw in there that teachers only have one option and that is to

00:50:25.980 affirm child when it's the child's leading I knew something was very wrong because I've worked on

00:50:36.780 as a resource teacher for many many years and we always have a team approach and we never have a

00:50:43.120 blanket solution for anything it's very detailed the family is involved the specialists are

00:50:50.680 involved there's so much assessment and planning treatment and of course teachers don't give that

00:50:57.420 kind of psychological treatment we have great systems in place but all of the systems disappear

00:51:05.560 for this all of the experts i don't understand it so i don't feel like it's an agenda sandra

00:51:12.860 it's a it's a total agenda and that's why all of the systems disappear for this because they're

00:51:18.720 trying to sneak it in it's obviously on purpose we know what they're trying to do but teachers

00:51:24.520 should be saying wait a minute wait a minute you're telling me i have to do this and i can't

00:51:31.180 take that responsibility we have we have a very clear purpose as educators and that's not it

00:51:37.560 so the teachers are keeping their heads down as you point out i don't think many are aware i didn't

00:51:44.000 know this was this these documents existed we hadn't studied them as a staff we hadn't had

00:51:48.580 training uh i believe they're there and they're going to be followed up on and and perhaps they

00:51:54.060 are now and and maybe dei is is that follow-up but i know i know many teachers were not aware

00:52:01.240 of that document at the time how much door knocking do you have left to do before the

00:52:06.800 I'm going to be out every night.

00:52:08.500 I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

00:52:10.380 I will be out every night that it's not pouring rain and until the boat.

00:52:14.920 And I have some seniors' residences.

00:52:18.240 That has been so good.

00:52:20.900 I have a few more that I'm going to visit and chat.

00:52:24.400 Well, you know, there's a reason they don't do drag queen story hour at old folks' homes. 0.99

00:52:29.680 Because they know they'll be tossed out on their asses. 0.98

00:52:32.780 Well, I met an elderly teacher in there and she reminisced and it was a very sweet time. And yeah, so but you know what, I feel no pressure. I feel no pressure. Because, you know, I'm saying what I'm saying, I'm saying that parents need to be informed, parents need to give consent, we need to let the child be a child. And, and we need to work together. Now, that is not anything revolutionary. 0.99

00:53:00.280 it's nothing shocking all that's pretty common sense to me i mean we have to be able to talk

00:53:08.260 we have to be able to talk and every child is unique every individual challenge is unique

00:53:15.320 whenever we had a child with a challenge of any way whether it was a behavioral challenge or

00:53:19.980 learning challenge it was like a beautiful team would come around to say look what if we tried

00:53:24.780 what's working what's not working what should we do next who else can we who else can we call on

00:53:29.580 as a resource. That's a great system. And that's a system that works for the parents as well.

00:53:37.380 Sandra, I wish you the best of luck in all of this. I certainly hope that you're able

00:53:43.220 to make headway with some of these people and actually sit down and have these difficult

00:53:48.400 conversations because we need to start someplace. And I know that we can't be afraid. No. And there's

00:53:55.420 so many people who are are afraid fearful of their jobs of their position in society let's say so

00:54:03.340 they don't speak up they don't say anything even as this silent minority uh and and maybe some not

00:54:10.500 so silent i mean pride month is coming up so we'll see what happens there uh as they continue to take

00:54:17.100 over our school systems and our governments and our politics at every level and we have to start

00:54:23.500 standing up and fighting back i mean you know i i'm i have to say i'm not an us and they kind of

00:54:30.060 a perspective person uh it's a we thing and we need to solve the issue together and parents are

00:54:36.840 the biggest part of the we so um that's uh that's sort of the way i see it i'm not in a

00:54:45.000 i'm i'm i'm i don't want to create division i want to create unity

00:54:51.120 well you know what i hope you i hope you win this i really hope you get that seat

00:54:58.160 and then a couple of months after you get that seat i want to have you back on to see how it's

00:55:04.200 going okay it's a deal i mean if we haven't read about you in the newspaper as being an anti-trans

00:55:10.980 bigot i'm not an anti anything i know you're not but they're not gonna they're not gonna believe

00:55:16.180 that i mean they're watching this show right now you can bet they're watching this show right now

00:55:20.020 They're trying to find things that you said tonight that they can use against you.

00:55:24.260 And I love families and I love kids and I don't put them in categories.

00:55:28.600 I can't.

00:55:29.960 They won't be using that.

00:55:31.680 I know.

00:55:33.080 That's okay.

00:55:34.620 That's okay.

00:55:35.680 I'm,

00:55:36.040 I'm,

00:55:36.400 you know,

00:55:36.840 I'm,

00:55:37.200 I am praying.

00:55:38.140 I'm praying for all the trustees that are there now.

00:55:40.840 I'm praying for all of the other individuals who are campaigning.

00:55:44.980 You know,

00:55:45.780 people are going to speak.

00:55:46.980 The democratic process is,

00:55:48.960 is happening.

00:55:50.020 and then we'll go forward.

00:55:51.780 I don't feel any pressure to win or whatever.

00:55:56.140 The parents are going to speak,

00:55:57.820 and I'm excited that it could be me.

00:56:01.320 Sandra, thank you for coming on tonight.

00:56:02.980 Best of luck, and we'll talk to you again.

00:56:04.720 Thank you so much for having me on.

00:56:06.540 It's been a pleasure.

00:56:07.820 All right.

00:56:08.260 There is Sandra St. Cyr.

00:56:09.920 She is running for school trustee in the vacant seat

00:56:12.260 left by Francine Champagne

00:56:14.280 in the Louis Riel School Division District 1 in Winnipeg.

00:56:19.020 All right.

00:56:19.520 We are going to go to the extension on shadow Davis.com in about 10 minutes on Thursday night.

00:56:26.780 I'm hoping to get private investigator, former police officer, Donald best to come on the show.

00:56:31.960 He has been diligently covering the hearing slash trial slash tribunal, whatever you want to call

00:56:38.380 it of detective Helen Groose, who is resumed the hearings this week in Ottawa. Um, we're going to

00:56:47.620 play this video that was put together by dave freedom our friend dave freedom out there in

00:56:52.720 ontario but donald says on his x page this is the most powerful and i watched this today it's nine

00:56:59.660 minutes long and right after this guys we're going to head to uh shadow davis.com for the extension

00:57:04.700 i still have a whole bunch to cover back there tonight so if you're not an all-access member go

00:57:09.740 ahead and become one right now shadow davis.com uh donald says this is the most powerful accurate

00:57:15.700 short video to date about ottawa police detective helen gruce who was testifying in her own defense

00:57:22.140 and well she testified yesterday but that was cut short that was cut short there was a couple of

00:57:27.480 problems that the prosecution had and they had to leave so it resumed today anyway dave freedom

00:57:37.060 has done a masterful job and that's his real name by the way dave freedom has done a masterful job

00:57:43.040 capturing the main factors in the case in only nine minutes well worth your time the disciplinary

00:57:48.480 hearing against detective gruce continues um until the end of this week so here is the video

00:57:54.720 now i've watched this a couple of times already today all the details are in this so if you're

00:57:59.760 unfamiliar with this case or you can't remember please take the time let's watch this together

00:58:05.440 for the next nine minutes and eight seconds detective helen gruce of the ottawa police

00:58:12.160 will be telling her story to the world for the first time at a police disciplinary tribunal

00:58:18.000 that's been plagued with bias corruption perjury witness intimidation and abuse of process

00:58:26.560 helen faces the bogus charge of discredible conduct for simply doing her job as an ottawa

00:58:33.040 police detective in january 2022 detective groups initiated an investigation into a possible

00:58:41.200 connection between nine sudden infant deaths and their mother's vaccination status. Mrs.

00:58:47.760 Groose's evidence package included Pfizer documents that showed 31 of 32 pregnancies,

00:58:54.320 followed by trial investigators, resulted in spontaneous abortion. Only one baby of 32

00:59:02.080 pregnancies survived. Within days of opening the investigation, Detective Groose was suspended

00:59:08.800 for discredible conduct for initiating an unauthorized investigation and was formally

00:59:14.640 charged in July 2022. What's disturbing to learn is that in late March 2022,

00:59:22.320 overwhelming evidence points to two police colleagues illegally providing confidential

00:59:28.880 police information to CBC reporter Shemini Yorgenem, which resulted in CBC articles and

00:59:36.080 broadcast about the police investigation of course impacting the investigation itself

00:59:42.800 after leaking the story to cbc ottawa police were then faced with a 24-hour ultimatum

00:59:49.200 from reporter shimini yagernam to contact the parents of the deceased infants before the story

00:59:56.480 broke so it's just a giant coincidence that after the news broke ottawa police made a financial

01:00:03.200 settlement with one of the parents. The news was then used as a propaganda tool

01:00:09.200 to assist in swaying public opinion. The timing of the settlement also couldn't have been better,

01:00:16.080 given that it was one day before Detective Groose's hearing in December 2023.

01:00:22.640 The mainstream media has been very strategic in their reporting, just enough to cover the

01:00:27.840 basics but not too much to stir the pot of course things you'll never see the mainstream media report

01:00:33.840 on is the fact that the one and only parent of the nine deceased infants detective crews contacted

01:00:40.960 during her investigation very much appreciated her phone call or that the grandfather of another

01:00:48.320 deceased infant only had positive things to say about detective crews at the tribunal members of

01:00:55.360 So the Ottawa police at one point got so desperate for a smidge of wrongdoing that they initiated

01:01:02.000 a wiretap, listening in on Detective Groose and her family.

01:01:07.280 For those who don't know, under the criminal code, there are two ways for a wiretap to

01:01:11.420 be granted.

01:01:12.420 One way is somewhat tedious, where grounds are established, affidavits are signed, etc.

01:01:18.120 While the other way is via an emergency provision under Section 1844 of the criminal code, meant

01:01:28.240 for abduction, murder, terrorism, or hostage situations where actual lives are at stake.

01:01:36.040 So as you can all guess, after 36 hours of listening to Detective Gruse, they came back

01:01:42.080 with absolutely nothing.

01:01:44.920 The decision-maker for Detective Gruse's tribunal is adjudicator Chris Renwick, retired

01:01:51.380 superintendent of Ottawa Police, who by the way has zero legal training.

01:01:57.860 The prosecutor is Miss Vanessa Stewart.

01:02:02.660 There are so many things unjust about the current proceedings that it would take hours

01:02:08.220 to cover it all, but for those watching, here are some quick examples that indicate the

01:02:13.200 fix is in. Just as Detective Groose was to testify in her own defense, her counsel, Blair

01:02:20.040 Hector, announced to the tribunal that his client had received a threatening email earlier

01:02:25.760 in the day. He said, and I quote, it's come to my attention today that Inspector Hugh

01:02:33.200 O'Toole sent an email to my client stating that she could not rely on any Ottawa Police

01:02:40.520 service documents. That is witness tampering. That is intimidation. That is obstruction.

01:02:46.760 This tribunal should be outraged. I am outraged, Hector said. Other things of concern is that

01:02:52.740 adjudicator Chris Renwick ruled that defense has to give all their questions for witnesses

01:02:57.760 in advance. Right. Mr. Renwick also ruled that Detective Groose could not review her own

01:03:05.820 handwritten notes from January 30, 2022, the very day upon which it is alleged she engaged in

01:03:14.620 misconduct by calling one of the parents. Although the prosecutor was sort of curveball

01:03:20.140 when Detective Cruz's own sergeant admitted on the stand that she had every right to look into

01:03:26.300 the file. I'm sure the prosecutor would love to redo that day. As far as testimonies go,

01:03:32.880 All five defense expert witnesses were denied by adjudicator Chris Wenwing.

01:03:39.460 They include Dr. Eric Payne, Pediatric Neurology, Dr. James Thorpe, Obstetrics and Ginecology,

01:03:48.540 Dr. Gregory Chan, Family Medicine, Ottawa Police Staff Peter Landlick, and Lawyer Sean Buckley.

01:03:57.360 On a different note, before many of the questions could even get past the second word, the prosecutor, Vanessa Stewart, would constantly object to the question in an effort to protect their witnesses from perjury.

01:04:12.440 Mrs. Stewart also despicably compared Detective Helen Groose's calm demeanor to that of a serial rapist and murderer in this country.

01:04:22.420 Speaking of Vanessa Stewart, adjudicator Chris Renwick denied defense's request to switch

01:04:29.760 out Prosecutor Ms. Stewart on the grounds that she is the sister-in-law of the primary

01:04:36.100 prosecution witness.

01:04:38.600 Yes, you heard that correctly.

01:04:42.600 Evidence exists that the case against Detective Helen Cruz is an engineered, politically motivated

01:04:48.460 set up by persons within the Ottawa Police Services.

01:04:52.960 Detective Gruse has been serving her community for over 20 years as a police officer and

01:04:58.080 carries an exemplary police record with glowing reviews.

01:05:02.800 Mrs. Gruse's commitment to catching and convicting bad guys in the Sexual Assault and Child Abuse

01:05:08.920 Unit is second to none.

01:05:12.300 This case in particular is one of the most important cases in Canadian history as it

01:05:17.740 will define how police investigate crimes.

01:05:21.780 The question then becomes, are we going to have police officers, frightened like we do

01:05:26.900 in communist countries, to do their duty without thinking of the political implications?

01:05:32.780 In Western police forces across Canada and the United States, police officers are encouraged

01:05:40.140 to initiate any investigation they see appropriate.

01:05:44.740 We allow the police to do this so that politicians can't corruptly direct police operations.

01:05:52.920 Autonomy is granted in order to prevent the police from being used politically.

01:05:59.080 If you are able, please come and show your support for Helen Groose at 211 Hunmar Drive,

01:06:05.420 Kanata, Ontario from May 27th to the 31st starting at 9.30am.

01:06:13.020 Groose is a hero who is standing up for all police officers and citizens alike if you wish

01:06:21.000 to donate to detective Groose's legal fund i have provided a link in the description

01:06:25.900 okay so i just heard from retired police officer vincent gurces who by the way is going to be at

01:06:41.600 the Canada Stronger Together Conference in Bozizier, Manitoba, June 21st, 22nd, 23rd. He was

01:06:46.420 involved in a very pivotal court case against the federal government as well regarding the

01:06:51.480 Emergencies Act. I'm sure you'll remember that one. Anyway, Vincent tells me, because he has been

01:06:57.560 live tweeting from the trial tribunal hearings, whatever you want to call them, and Vincent says

01:07:06.080 some vital evidence was introduced this morning that sounds like victory helen accessing the

01:07:15.560 database was related to a meeting she was having with the chief they never connected the dots

01:07:21.480 they have no case against her it appears this is a witch hunt gone bad and it shows

01:07:27.840 now comes the embarrassing part they shot themselves in the foot with this one we'll try

01:07:32.560 and get vince gertzies on the show thursday night and we'll also try to get former police officer

01:07:39.640 now private investigator donald best to come on he himself has been live tweeting and covering

01:07:44.940 this trial of helen gruce this week and he's been covering it for the last year

01:07:50.600 tomorrow night from bow valley credit union kevin karpovich joins the show we have a lot to talk

01:07:58.680 about regarding banking so that is coming up tomorrow night and coming up tonight in the

01:08:02.940 extension still i have all kinds of things to talk about regarding immigration regarding the

01:08:08.640 palestinian pro-palestinian protests that are going on right now at universities all across

01:08:13.700 the country there was a committee today that tackled this and even the liberals were asking

01:08:19.640 these university presidents some very very difficult questions we're going to get to that

01:08:24.820 And Robert De Niro, you know, the actor,

01:08:28.280 was giving a speech in front of the courthouse

01:08:31.160 where Donald Trump is being tried in New York today.

01:08:35.880 And he was booed and jeered off the stage by Trump supporters.

01:08:39.760 And then he proceeded to retaliate using foul language.

01:08:43.860 We have video of that.

01:08:45.300 We're going to play for you in the extension

01:08:47.040 coming up in just a couple of minutes.

01:08:49.020 For all access members at shadowdavis.com.

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01:08:53.880 We'll see you there in two minutes, and if you're not, then we'll catch you tomorrow night at 8 o'clock central for another Shadow at Night livestream.

01:09:01.900 I love you all. I appreciate you all. I'll catch you tomorrow night or in a couple of minutes. Bye for now.

01:09:23.880 We'll be right back.

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The Shadoe Davis Show - May 29, 2024

Common Sense candidate running for Wpg School Board Sandra Saint-Cyr on the show!

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