The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 18, 2024


Andrew & Tristan Tate Arrested AGAIN in Romania—Tate Lawyer Joe McBride Enters The StoneZONE!

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Andrew Tristan Tate
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Donald Trump Andrew Weissman Godspeed Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Hunter Biden Tristan Tate Joe McBride Andrew Tate Joe Scarborough Elon Musk Steele Rebecca Walzer Joseph McBride Nancy Pelosi Gary Johnson Scott Adams Joe Biden Pat Boone Mueller Cannon and 30 more
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Trump uses the term bloodbath in a speech to describe what he would like to happen to the U.S. auto industry. The media and liberal media have latched on to this line of thinking and distorted it to make it sound like Trump was talking about a blood bath in order to smear the president and his campaign. Stone and his co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot News, break down the words Trump used in the speech and offer their thoughts on how the media mischaracterized the words and distorted the meaning of the words. They also discuss the tactics used by the Deep State to delegitimize President Trump and his presidency and how they have become so desperate that they will go to any lengths to smear anyone who stands in their way. The Stone Zone with Roger Stone is a political and cultural icon. Roger Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents and is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society, and has lectured at countless events. He is a conservative icon in the cultural and political arena and has become a pop culture icon. Roger Stone joins me on the show to discuss the latest Democratic smear and how it s been misconstrued by the media and other media outlets. The conspiracy theories that have been perpetuated by the deep state and the Deep state. Tweet Megyn Turley: . Tweet me and let me know what you think of this episode? in the comments section! if you think it s good or bad, tweet me what you thought of it or if you agree with it or don t like it! or disagree with it, we ll talk about it in a future episode of The Stonezone to me or do you have any thoughts or thoughts on it? or share it in the next episode! , and I ll tweet me on Insta- :) ! Timestamps: . . . , & , . & more! & other ... - The StoneZONE Thank you for listening to the show! -The Stone Zone? -Ronna McElroy @ Thanks for listening

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00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
00:00:11.940 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:16.280 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.
00:00:21.880 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,
00:00:25.880 spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.
00:00:32.880 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.
00:00:38.260 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:45.340 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:00:50.760 Well, it was a tumultuous weekend politically, as the Democrat media cabal tried to orchestrate their latest hoax.
00:01:03.060 This one surrounds President Donald Trump's use of the word bloodbath in discussing what would happen to the U.S.-based auto industry in a speech in Ohio.
00:01:16.320 Let's take a quick look at what the president really said.
00:01:19.660 Mexico has taken over a period of 30 years, 34 percent of the automobile manufacturing business in our country.
00:01:28.720 Think of it.
00:01:29.560 Went to Mexico.
00:01:30.900 China now is building a couple of massive plants where they're going to build the cars in Mexico
00:01:36.220 and think, they think, that they're going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border.
00:01:42.620 Let me tell you something to China.
00:01:44.160 If you're listening, President Xi, and you and I are friends, but he understands the way I deal,
00:01:49.460 those big monster car manufacturing plants that you're building in Mexico right now,
00:01:56.240 and you think you're going to get that, you're going to not hire Americans, and you're going to sell the cars to us.
00:02:01.300 Now, we're going to put a 100 percent tariff on every single car that comes across the line,
00:02:07.000 and you're not going to be able to sell those cars.
00:02:09.200 If I get elected, now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole,
00:02:14.920 that's going to be the least of it.
00:02:16.520 It's going to be a bloodbath for the country.
00:02:18.280 That'll be the least of it.
00:02:19.760 But they're not going to sell those cars.
00:02:21.580 They're building massive factories.
00:02:23.100 A friend of mine.
00:02:23.820 So, this, of course, has gotten distorted, as many other past hoaxes have.
00:02:32.360 Here to help me break this down is my co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.News.
00:02:40.000 Roger, it's an honor to be here, as always, and the media really taking this, running with it,
00:02:45.420 sprinting out there, and mischaracterizing the words.
00:02:48.440 It's pretty unbelievable, and I wanted to get your thoughts, Roger.
00:02:51.080 It really shows how desperate they've become, doesn't it?
00:02:53.960 Well, I think it is based on the fact that it has dawned on many in the deep state that
00:02:59.180 they may, may not get Donald Trump to a criminal trial prior to the election, the election interference
00:03:07.940 that they really strive for.
00:03:10.320 But, Troy, let's take a look at Joe Scarborough here, actively involved in this smear.
00:03:17.240 He's talking about a bloodbath for America.
00:03:20.440 It's laid out in the terms of it. 1.00
00:03:22.460 And these idiots on Twitter, these idiots on cable news, these idiots on Sunday shows, 1.00
00:03:30.960 going, well, I have a presence, you know. 1.00
00:03:33.000 He was talking only about the auto industry, and this is one more.
00:03:36.960 It's just a...
00:03:37.820 Let me say that at 6.15 a.m.
00:03:40.140 It's just a...
00:03:40.820 He knew what he was doing.
00:03:43.560 We're not stupid. 0.98
00:03:44.860 Americans aren't stupid. 0.99
00:03:46.980 He was talking about a bloodbath. 1.00
00:03:51.400 Sometimes a bloodbath means a bloodbath.
00:03:53.960 And when he finishes by saying, and that's just going to be the least of it, seriously, 1.00
00:03:59.140 these people may be stupid. 1.00
00:04:01.460 We're not. 1.00
00:04:02.200 Yeah, it's interesting.
00:04:04.800 Joe Scarborough posted something along those lines on Twitter, only to be rebuffed immediately
00:04:11.780 by Elon Musk himself, who saw the speech in context, as we just did.
00:04:17.540 It's very clear.
00:04:18.460 Trump is talking about the industry.
00:04:20.540 If you go do a lookup of the definition, the third definition of bloodbath is an economic
00:04:27.760 definition, meaning a disaster within any given particular industry.
00:04:34.120 This is part of a technique that they have used again and again.
00:04:38.580 Nancy Pelosi actually spit it out. 1.00
00:04:41.260 Take a look at this.
00:04:43.100 It's a self-fulfilling problem.
00:04:44.920 You demonize, and then you...
00:04:46.700 We call it the wrap-up smear, if you want to talk politics.
00:04:49.540 We call it the wrap-up smear.
00:04:51.180 You smear somebody with falsehoods and all the rest, and then you merchandise it.
00:04:57.940 And then you write it, and they'll say, see, it's reported in the press that this, this,
00:05:02.760 this, and this, so they have that validation that the press reported the smear, and then
00:05:09.040 it's called the wrap-up smear.
00:05:10.120 Now I'm going to merchandise the press's report on the smear that we made.
00:05:14.500 And it's a tactic, and it's self-evident.
00:05:18.020 But I think I'm worth the trouble.
00:05:20.060 There you have it.
00:05:22.200 She's basically admitting to it.
00:05:24.240 So the most classic example of this is, of course, the Steele dossier.
00:05:29.220 That's the famous dossier that falsely alleged that Donald Trump had cavorted with prostitutes,
00:05:37.660 went in Moscow and a private citizen, and had watched them urinate on a bed that Barack Obama
00:05:44.900 had once slept in.
00:05:46.280 So in order to merchandise that story, the FBI fed it to Mike Isikoff, a reporter with Yahoo.news.
00:05:57.580 He then printed a story reflecting this falsehood, allowing Mueller's prosecutors to then go to a judge
00:06:04.400 and said, you see, Your Honor, it's in print.
00:06:07.020 It's been reported.
00:06:07.780 Therefore, it's true.
00:06:11.320 This is, if you're a Trump supporter and you're awake, this is one of a very long history of these.
00:06:19.140 Tip of the hat to Scott Adams, who actually went out and compiled a list.
00:06:24.420 Let's take a look.
00:06:25.600 There was, of course, the entire Russian collusion hoax based on the Steele dossier hoax.
00:06:32.180 There was the Russians hacked the DNC hoax, untrue.
00:06:37.720 There was the Ukrainian phone call hoax.
00:06:40.820 There was the Trump phone call to Secretary of State Raffensperger in Georgia, telling him to
00:06:47.660 find 11,680 votes hoax.
00:06:52.740 There was the Trump called Nazis very fine people in Charlottesville hoax.
00:06:59.500 There was the Trump suggested drinking or injecting bleach to fight COVID hoax.
00:07:06.600 There was the Trump overfed koi fish in Japan hoax.
00:07:11.680 There was the Trump cleared protesters with tear gas for a Bible photo op in the park across
00:07:19.280 from the White House hoax.
00:07:21.580 There was the Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation hoax.
00:07:27.820 There was the elections were fair because no court found major fraud when, in fact, no
00:07:34.700 court actually heard the case hoax.
00:07:37.420 There was the Trump invited Russia to attack NATO countries that don't pay their bills hoax.
00:07:45.720 That one was just a couple days ago.
00:07:48.500 There was the Trump was storing nuclear secrets in Mar-a-Lago hoax.
00:07:54.740 There was the Trump was going to sell nuclear secrets to either the Chinese or the Russians.
00:08:02.200 Take your pick, hoax.
00:08:04.160 There was the Trump invited white supremacist Nick Fuentes to dinner at Mar-a-Lago hoax.
00:08:12.040 There was the Roger Stone met with others in a war room in the Willard Hotel on the run-up
00:08:20.540 to January 6th, hoax.
00:08:22.400 There was the Trump tried to grab the steering wheel in the presidential vehicle on January 6th, hoax.
00:08:31.900 There was the—I might go on and on and on here.
00:08:35.920 It is a tactic that they use again and again.
00:08:40.100 It was a lot easier, though, Troy, when they had monolithic control of all social media
00:08:47.180 and an iron-like grip on the all discourse in all mass communications.
00:08:54.880 With the acquisition of Twitter, now X, that has broken their monopoly.
00:09:02.500 Also, there has been, I think, a proliferation of alternative media sites publishing the truth.
00:09:11.340 So just think what this would be like, Troy, if Elon Musk had never purchased Twitter.
00:09:18.240 The number of people pushing back on this latest bloodbath hoax on Twitter, now known as X,
00:09:25.840 is really extraordinary.
00:09:27.780 You wrote a piece about this for Slingshot.News.
00:09:30.720 Tell us what you think.
00:09:32.740 Well, Roger, it's very important because the auto industry is going to die
00:09:37.020 because of the policies put forth by the Biden administration.
00:09:40.280 They have used the EPA to try to mandate vehicle manufacturers into building electric cars.
00:09:46.460 And we've seen the result of this, Roger.
00:09:48.160 People don't want the electric cars, and they sit on the lots until they are basically put to the scrapyard.
00:09:54.620 Not only that, Roger, but on something like, say, a car that's completely electric,
00:09:59.040 the battery, after a certain number of years, dies, making the battery almost more expensive than the car.
00:10:05.460 And how this works, folks, is the government subsidizes the companies to provide extended warranties for the people
00:10:12.680 so they don't have to buy the expensive battery.
00:10:15.920 Well, that's all great, and that's all good.
00:10:18.100 But that comes back on you, the taxpayer.
00:10:20.420 And what do you end up with?
00:10:21.440 You end up with cars that don't work.
00:10:23.520 You end up with a government that's completely out of control.
00:10:25.920 And all of the United Auto Worker Union employees are fired and gone immediately, and they will be gone.
00:10:32.900 As time progresses here, Roger, Biden and his team have put the auto industry into hell,
00:10:40.360 and they have pushed – they've set up goalposts in the future now where it's going to be like 60 percent of the entire vehicle production
00:10:49.860 in the United States is going to be green by 2030.
00:10:53.540 They've taken that idea and that restriction, and they've suffocated the auto industry,
00:10:59.520 and it's going to completely destroy it.
00:11:01.020 That's what Trump was talking about with these bloodbath comments, and yet the media, so hyped up, so rabid
00:11:07.940 for anything that they can use to attack President Trump, takes this quote out of context, puts it out there.
00:11:13.180 Now, if they still had the monopoly that you talk about, Roger, this would not have been countered.
00:11:18.780 This would not have been countered in the way that it has been on Twitter.
00:11:22.240 And I think that's the most important thing here.
00:11:24.200 The media, during the last election cycle, got away with this ad nauseum because there was no opposition, really.
00:11:30.120 They had controlled all levers of communication.
00:11:34.820 That's not the case anymore.
00:11:36.400 And the fact that they got called out on it is why Joe Scarborough is on the air this morning, literally losing his mind.
00:11:43.180 I mean, I saw that clip, Roger.
00:11:44.480 It's just unbelievable.
00:11:45.600 I'm sure you've had your run-ins with Joe Scarborough in the past, a total establishment hack.
00:11:51.300 He's another one where you know he's lying because his lips are moving.
00:11:54.580 All right, we're going to go to a quick commercial break.
00:11:57.880 But when we come back, Andrew and Tristan Tate were arrested yet again early last week.
00:12:06.100 And their lead attorney, Joe McBride, joins us to talk about the latest witch hunt regarding Andrew Tate, his company, and his brother.
00:12:17.120 We'll be right back.
00:12:18.320 Is there any regrets that you have in life?
00:12:33.300 I should sit here and say, yeah, I got a lot of regrets.
00:12:37.100 But when I look back on my life and I understand the lives that were lost, I mean, I'm sitting here with them.
00:12:48.800 And I can tell my story.
00:12:51.340 Former National Security Advisor, Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty today for lying to the FBI.
00:12:56.720 He was one of the most respected generals in the military.
00:12:59.000 He was, by definition, the most dangerous possible person for Donald Trump to hire.
00:13:04.620 Certainly brilliant military career serving 33.
00:13:07.780 Why was he being so elusive?
00:13:09.580 Mike Flynn, polled the truth and faced like him personally.
00:13:24.620 Joining me at the news desk now is Rebecca Walzer of walzerwealth.com.
00:13:29.240 She has been a regular guest on my TV show, Brennan House Live, for a long time.
00:13:34.100 And she's not just an economics expert, but she's an attorney.
00:13:38.140 Rebecca, you have a large firm.
00:13:40.300 How many people work for your firm?
00:13:41.520 Just about 30, yes.
00:13:43.020 30.
00:13:43.500 And tell me, how can people prepare for what's coming with the, well, the end of the dollar as we know it?
00:13:49.200 The end of the fiat system as we know it globally.
00:13:51.340 We are moving to hard asset-backed currencies again.
00:13:54.240 Thank the Lord.
00:13:55.060 Because fiat is where we get into all the problems.
00:13:57.480 When you have debt-based currency, you have debt-based problems.
00:14:00.760 And the United States, unfortunately, since 2020, has not stopped spending at pandemic levels.
00:14:06.280 This is systemic, and it is unsustainable, and it is coming to an end,
00:14:10.520 especially with the addition of Saudi Arabia and the UAE to the BRICS nations.
00:14:14.480 This is what controls our petrodollar.
00:14:16.280 This is the threat immediately in 2024.
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00:14:27.100 Welcome back.
00:14:29.120 I'm Roger Stone.
00:14:30.480 And, yes, you are in the Stone Zone.
00:14:32.300 Joining me, of course, is my co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.News.
00:14:38.860 Andrew Tate and his brother, Tristan, men who have the audacity to espouse traditional values for men,
00:14:49.500 traditional values such as self-discipline, remaining sober, remaining fit, working hard,
00:14:57.100 finding God, entrepreneurial spirit, have been yet rearrested in Romania and then released.
00:15:07.400 Now, their lead attorney, Joe McBride of the McBride Law Firm, joins us to talk about this latest travesty.
00:15:17.500 Joe, welcome to the Stone Zone.
00:15:20.640 Good day, gentlemen.
00:15:22.420 It's nice to see you, as always, Roger.
00:15:24.500 Nice to meet you, Troy.
00:15:25.780 Pleasure.
00:15:26.100 Well, Joe, first of all, let me say, Andrew and Tristan Tate could not have a better lawyer.
00:15:34.440 I have huge confidence in you because I know you and I know your track record.
00:15:39.580 I know your tenacity and I know your knowledge of the law.
00:15:44.220 For those who are unfamiliar with this story,
00:15:46.700 Andrew Tate has been an outspoken advocate for traditional values and roles for men.
00:15:54.760 As I said, he has had the audacity to talk about remaining sober, remaining fit, finding God, working hard, entrepreneurial spirit, self-responsibility.
00:16:08.220 If the man has any vices, they are a love of consensual female companionship and a good cigar.
00:16:17.740 But he's been targeted because what he preaches, what he teaches, as one of the, I think, the number one search person on Google last year, is anathema to the cultural counter-revolution going on, not just in America, but around the world.
00:16:39.720 So just after Christmas last year, he was arrested with his brother.
00:16:46.300 They were held for three months without charges.
00:16:48.640 Then in June, they were charged with human trafficking, despite the fact that no woman witness had come forward to claim that they had been coerced by either of the Tates or anyone working for them.
00:17:06.980 Andrew Tate gave a historic interview with Tucker Carlson, which he made the case that the only technique he uses is charm.
00:17:15.600 Then we know that the authorities in Romania and also in the U.K. launched a drag net to try to find any woman that either one of the Tates had ever interacted with in their entire lives and try to get them to say something negative to Tates.
00:17:35.060 And then, again, last week, they were taken into custody, I gather, pertaining to potential extradition to the U.K., and then released.
00:17:49.320 Joe, what's going on here?
00:17:50.520 So this is a pathetic attempt by a U.K. low-hanging fruit firm to perform legal necromancy on a case that was dismissed in England long ago.
00:18:03.460 About 10 years ago or so, there was a series of allegations, nefarious allegations against Tristan and the brothers that had to do with spurious charges of a purient nature.
00:18:18.720 And when you accuse somebody of anything regarding sexual nature or rape in the U.K., what they do is they automatically take your phone.
00:18:27.040 They went through the accuser's phone, and they saw that not only was this person lying, that there was a group of women who were trying to defraud and blackmail these brothers.
00:18:37.520 And they threw it out right away.
00:18:40.000 The U.K. told them, look, you got no case.
00:18:42.560 And that is the end of it.
00:18:43.960 They have tried to bootstrap this to what's going on in the Romanian case as a pathetic attempt to resurrect the case that has been rotting in the jail, rotting in the ground for a very long time, in an attempt to get these brothers to rot in jail again a second time.
00:19:05.500 Thank God the Romanian justice system saw through this exactly for what this is.
00:19:10.080 The case in Romania is falling apart day by day, hour by hour.
00:19:15.560 It's getting worse and worse for the prosecution over there.
00:19:18.460 So they're doing anything and everything that they can do in order to begin the process of getting them prosecuted and therefore persecuted in another jurisdiction.
00:19:28.700 Roger, you know very well, and Troy as well, about the concept of double jeopardy in the United States, which prohibits somebody from being tried substantially for the same crime two times, right?
00:19:40.620 So what they're trying to do is they're going to lose in Romania, and they're trying to start something in the U.K.
00:19:45.420 And if the brothers beat them in the U.K. again, they're going to try maybe the United States, maybe here, maybe there, who knows?
00:19:52.040 But there needs to be some recognition by the international justice system at some point that these guys have had their day in court, that they've won their day in court, and they need to be left to hell alone.
00:20:03.140 Yeah, I mean, obviously, the spurious charge here is human trafficking, but specifically an allegation that they somehow induced women to make videos on TikTok.
00:20:15.260 Yet, to my knowledge, no woman has come forward yet to say that they were coerced.
00:20:21.000 It's because the Tates are challenging the status quo.
00:20:26.360 It's because they're challenging the attempt to feminize men, because they're standing up against the idea of toxic masculinity to talk about how a young man should comport themselves.
00:20:39.840 And they're preaching positive values.
00:20:42.560 And this can just not be accepted.
00:20:44.780 Here's a quick video of Andrew Tate speaking after being released just last week.
00:20:52.140 Unfortunately, I don't think many people in Romania understand, but in the West, in the countries that are owned by the Satanists, 0.53
00:20:58.020 we live with a certain level of fame, you either put on a dress or you go to jail, and I'm happy to make my choice, which is jail every single time.
00:21:03.640 My soul is not for sale, neither are my principles.
00:21:06.360 We are innocent men.
00:21:07.940 We're very innocent men, and in time, everybody's going to see that, and we're very excited to finish this judicial process.
00:21:13.240 Well, you are free for now, but still, the Romanian courts approved extradition to the UK after the trial is over here.
00:21:21.280 It's very difficult, because I've been asking the Romanian courts to go to the UK myself.
00:21:26.000 I've asked five times and been declined, so now I get to go home.
00:21:29.520 It's been asking me, so let's go.
00:21:31.640 You will bring the jail again at the final of the process.
00:21:33.220 What do you think of?
00:21:33.760 What do you think of?
00:21:33.900 What do you think of?
00:21:36.000 What do you think of?
00:21:37.000 There are five more females that claim to be the victim? 1.00
00:21:43.220 What do you think of?
00:21:44.220 What do you think of?
00:21:45.220 That's why they claim.
00:21:46.220 No, no.
00:21:47.220 No.
00:21:48.220 Claims are being made about intentions to flee Romania is such a claim to be.
00:21:52.220 I can't trust it.
00:21:53.220 The day the judge told me, would you like to get a strike to England?
00:21:56.220 That was the claim against me that I was trying to flee, and I said, no, I want to stay here and face justice.
00:22:00.220 I want to win here in Romania.
00:22:02.220 So clearly, that's not true.
00:22:03.220 God, having been through that myself, I have great empathy for the Tate brothers.
00:22:21.220 Joe, how long, if you combine the period in which they were being held without charges being filed against them, and then subsequent, I believe, house arrest, how long has it been since the brothers have been free to travel as they wish?
00:22:37.260 They haven't been free to travel since the night of their arrest, so we're going on a few years now.
00:22:43.000 I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous what's happening to them.
00:22:46.320 You know, the charges in the Romanian case stemmed from an allegation from a few women who have a background that's questionable, and that's me being gracious.
00:23:00.220 We filed a defamation lawsuit and just refiled it again because we won the remand motion in Florida.
00:23:07.180 We're in Palm Beach Court there, and we explained what type of people that we're dealing with here.
00:23:12.520 The Romanian system is different from the American system.
00:23:16.540 The prosecutors were able to bury and hide this information from the Romanian judges for a significant period of time.
00:23:23.860 Once the Romanian public information system, the justice system, the media got a hold of it via our work in conjunction with their team and our team in the United States, we published our complaint.
00:23:36.340 People found out exactly what type of people we were dealing with here, the level of lying and nefarious conduct that blew the case apart in Romania.
00:23:45.860 The Romanian justice system is different.
00:23:48.680 The Romanian team has been doing a great, great job all along under the rules.
00:23:53.460 The judges in Romania are finally finding out the truth about what's happening here, and they can't believe what they're seeing.
00:23:59.980 So this is why the conditions of confinement and things are changing rapidly and the case is falling apart.
00:24:05.200 Now, if you juxtapose that with the U.K. case, right, and you look at the U.K. case, there is nobody named on this complaint, right?
00:24:13.260 So we can't even go after the people who have put forth these allegations because there's nobody there.
00:24:21.060 There's a bunch of ghosts who are accusing Andrew and Tristan of nefarious conduct in the U.K.,
00:24:26.000 and that somehow was enough to proper a U.K. arrest warrant in Romania. 0.96
00:24:31.920 It's absolutely ridiculous. 0.87
00:24:33.720 Look, Tristan just said it right there. 0.80
00:24:36.600 We want to, in that video, we want to stay in Romania, and we want our justice in court.
00:24:42.100 We want to face justice in Romania.
00:24:44.480 Guilty men don't talk like that.
00:24:46.920 Guilty men would do whatever they can do under the circumstances to weasel their way out of an adversarial system,
00:24:53.360 an adversarial process with the justice system.
00:24:55.960 Andrew and Tristan want to stay in Romania.
00:24:57.920 They want their day in court.
00:24:59.060 They want the evidence to be proffered before the judges and before the world because they are unequivocally innocent.
00:25:04.660 And if they need to do that in the U.K., they will do it again as well.
00:25:08.400 And for your viewers who don't know about it, please pay attention to the defamation suit that's happening in Florida.
00:25:14.360 We're getting ready to move the defamation suit.
00:25:17.620 We're getting ready to move to depositions shortly.
00:25:20.800 And once we move to depositions and we get those people in the room with us and we're questioning them under oath,
00:25:28.200 it's going to be very interesting to see what they say once the American justice system is breathing down their neck.
00:25:33.920 Because Andrew and Tristan are plaintiffs in America, not defendants.
00:25:38.720 Troy, do you have a question for lawyer Joe McBride?
00:25:44.600 Absolutely.
00:25:45.280 Roger, you talked about this in your case.
00:25:47.220 The ultimate objective of these people in your case was to get you to testify against Trump and say things that didn't happen.
00:25:54.400 I wanted to ask Mr. McBride here, has there been an attempt by authorities to get the Tates to stop putting out content?
00:26:00.900 Has there been an offer?
00:26:02.840 Like, what are they trying to do here?
00:26:04.660 Because it seems to me the ultimate goal is to get them to stop talking in general about anything.
00:26:09.520 Sure, that's a great question, Troy.
00:26:11.660 So they have done everything that they can do to de-platform them, to de-bank them, so on and so forth.
00:26:17.760 Elon Musk, his acquisition of X has been crucial to Andrew and Tristan being able to reassert their voices online.
00:26:26.540 Have they tried to suppress their ability for free speech or to advocate for themselves in public in any way?
00:26:33.900 Yes, they have tried to do this across the board, but they're failing because the justice system in Romania doesn't support what their false accusers are trying to do, right?
00:26:46.340 They also have their rights in America as well.
00:26:49.700 And because we have been able to file this defamation lawsuit in civil court in Palm Beach County, Florida,
00:26:56.080 we've also been able to get the world to see the truth of what's happening here as well.
00:27:01.380 So Andrew and Tristan have had to use the Internet and legal teams in four different countries in order to sort of circle around, flank,
00:27:13.160 and move pieces around on the chessboard to get ahead of them being silenced, unfairly canceled, online, and so forth.
00:27:23.960 So the answer is yes, they have tried, but they are failing, and they have underestimated the huge amount of support that Andrew and Tristan have in the international community.
00:27:33.240 People see their message as good, and particularly young men.
00:27:36.820 You know, be strong, be vibrant, be an entrepreneur, don't give it to socialism, the government is not your daddy, there are two genders,
00:27:46.020 it's okay to be a man, it's okay to be strong, you should go to the gym, you should want to be married,
00:27:50.520 you should want to have kids, you should want to have a traditional life, and live your life according to the way that God has prescribed it for you, right? 0.92
00:27:57.940 That resonates with people, especially with good people.
00:28:01.220 So, you know, it's a big, big battle between light and darkness, and good and evil in their case,
00:28:06.320 but Andrew and Tristan are certainly on the right side of it.
00:28:08.740 It looks, sounds to me, just reading between the lines here, that the brothers have essentially been subjected to an extortion plot,
00:28:18.480 and this is an effort to extort them.
00:28:21.400 What I can't find here is any motive.
00:28:24.880 Andrew Tate has been extraordinarily successful.
00:28:27.860 He's made a huge amount of money.
00:28:29.780 He dates beautiful women consensually.
00:28:32.020 He doesn't need the pennies from the TikTok videos of women that he may have charmed.
00:28:38.800 The whole thing really sounds like a war of censorship.
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00:31:11.960 I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.
00:31:15.880 We're here yet again with my co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.News.
00:31:20.620 And we're talking to Joe McBride, Joseph McBride, the head of the McBride Law Firm,
00:31:27.080 who is the lead attorney for Andrew and Tristan Tate,
00:31:31.680 who are the subject of one of the most outrageous witch hunts that I have seen
00:31:37.140 since those perpetrated on, oh, I don't know, Donald Trump.
00:31:41.760 So, Joe, two questions.
00:31:44.600 What happens next?
00:31:46.060 Obviously, you have urged people to watch this Florida-based defamation suit,
00:31:52.160 which shows that you are a great attorney because you're on offense
00:31:56.120 rather than sitting around on defense.
00:31:59.380 But how can people help the Tates?
00:32:03.340 How can people support the Tates?
00:32:05.480 I mean, Andrew and Tristan both have great Twitter, now known as X,
00:32:10.740 pages where you can follow them.
00:32:13.260 And I urge people to do that so they can read the truth.
00:32:17.000 You're there as well.
00:32:19.440 But how can people support the Tates in this epic battle?
00:32:23.480 A few of the most wealthy people on Earth, right?
00:32:26.140 So in terms of helping them, you know, if you're inclined to help them financially,
00:32:29.960 what you can do is go to TatePledge.com,
00:32:32.740 and you can look at their charitable efforts there.
00:32:35.160 People may not know this about them,
00:32:36.840 but Andrew and Tristan give away tens of millions of dollars to charity all the time,
00:32:42.580 to charitable causes all across the world.
00:32:47.460 They feed people in war-torn countries on a regular basis,
00:32:50.560 and all that stuff is there.
00:32:52.560 You can see the videos.
00:32:53.540 You can see the pictures.
00:32:54.540 Their charitable efforts are awesome.
00:32:57.200 They're admirable.
00:32:58.660 They're in a position to do it, and they do it well.
00:33:01.520 And they never really announce it.
00:33:03.580 You know, that's the thing about these guys.
00:33:04.880 They just don't announce it.
00:33:06.280 These are two guys who come from nothing,
00:33:08.520 who works for everything that they have,
00:33:11.020 and they always give out of their excess.
00:33:13.940 They don't ask for credit.
00:33:15.300 They don't ask to be admired for it.
00:33:17.100 They just do it because they know it's the right thing to do,
00:33:19.560 and they have not forgotten where they came from.
00:33:22.580 And in terms of what's on the menu for the next,
00:33:25.140 look, they're going to continue to fight.
00:33:27.420 They're not world champion kickboxers for no reason, right?
00:33:30.220 These guys are fighters through and through,
00:33:33.300 born to fight.
00:33:34.880 The system, like Trump,
00:33:37.520 has picked on the wrong guy to mess with in this situation.
00:33:43.120 So they're going to get exonerated in the end.
00:33:47.300 Light overcomes, always overcomes the darkness.
00:33:50.120 Truth will have its day in court
00:33:51.780 and in the court of public opinion.
00:33:54.180 These guys will be exonerated.
00:33:56.320 Unfortunately,
00:33:56.920 their enemies know that the process is the punishment.
00:34:01.500 It's going to cost them millions of dollars.
00:34:04.220 It's going to cost them years of their freedom.
00:34:07.280 It's going to cost them damage to their reputation,
00:34:09.940 but they will be restored like Job was in the Old Testament.
00:34:13.780 They will be restored even great to a greater station than they were before all this happened.
00:34:19.540 But until that happens,
00:34:21.760 it's just going to be,
00:34:23.260 we're going to continue to fight.
00:34:24.600 We're going to grind it out in every court in the world that we're in,
00:34:27.280 and we are going to leave no stone unturned in their defense
00:34:31.760 because these guys are innocent.
00:34:33.600 These are good guys who do good things with their life.
00:34:36.680 They're so sure.
00:34:37.380 They say some things that people don't like.
00:34:39.280 You don't have to love them.
00:34:40.300 You can even hate them,
00:34:41.260 but that doesn't mean that they should go to jail for it.
00:34:43.620 This is a free and open society that we live in.
00:34:46.060 We get to disagree with each other
00:34:47.640 without throwing the opposition or the dissidents in jail
00:34:50.780 because this is a free world,
00:34:53.380 and this is certainly a free country in the United States.
00:34:55.680 The U.K. supposedly is free.
00:34:57.160 I don't know about that anymore,
00:34:58.700 but we're going to see.
00:35:00.520 All right.
00:35:01.140 Well, I think the Bible actually said that Job got back everything taken from him sixfold,
00:35:07.520 and so may it be with the Tates.
00:35:10.020 I empathize with them having been through this particular meat grinder, 1.00
00:35:15.400 but as I said at the top,
00:35:17.140 I'm enormously confident and comforted, Joe,
00:35:20.440 by the fact that you are at the helm of their legal effort.
00:35:24.740 I want to thank you so much for joining us today, Joe, on the Stone Zone,
00:35:28.860 and God bless you.
00:35:30.000 Keep up the fight.
00:35:31.540 You too, Roger.
00:35:33.940 All right, folks.
00:35:35.140 That was Joe McBride, chief attorney, lead attorney,
00:35:40.020 for Andrew and Tristan Tate,
00:35:44.100 who yet again, as I say,
00:35:46.540 were taken into custody in Romania
00:35:49.920 to talk about or to face the question of extradition to the United Kingdom,
00:35:56.880 and then they were released.
00:35:59.380 They are fighters.
00:36:00.140 They will not throw in the towel.
00:36:02.520 I think they look forward to proving their innocence,
00:36:05.180 even though theoretically that's not how the legal system is supposed to work.
00:36:10.040 Those accusing you have an obligation to prove your guilt.
00:36:14.820 You don't have an obligation to prove you're innocent.
00:36:17.760 That's at least how it's supposed to work.
00:36:20.280 Troy, it's interesting that this past week,
00:36:27.220 Judge Cannon, in hearing motions in the Florida documents case,
00:36:33.760 where federal prosecutor and special counsel Jack Smith
00:36:38.440 has accused Donald Trump of the mishandling
00:36:43.000 and retention of top secret and classified documents,
00:36:47.920 while the judge seemed to reject the argument
00:36:52.040 that Trump was immune from prosecution
00:36:55.160 under the Presidential Records Act,
00:36:58.300 she did seem extraordinarily interested
00:37:00.720 in the argument of selective prosecution.
00:37:04.360 As we know, Robert Herr, the special counsel
00:37:09.500 who was charged with investigating Joe Biden
00:37:13.060 and his retention of documents
00:37:15.820 from the time that he was both U.S. Senator and Vice President,
00:37:20.600 clearly found in his report
00:37:22.300 that Biden had willfully retained such documents
00:37:27.520 in violation of the law.
00:37:30.300 He then, as most people now know, controversially,
00:37:33.120 went on to recommend that Biden not be prosecuted
00:37:36.280 simply because of his mental deterioration.
00:37:40.160 He was a little kinder in the way he said it,
00:37:42.380 but that was the conclusion.
00:37:45.080 But then, of course, that will drive the left completely insane.
00:37:50.420 If Judge Cannon, and I'm not an attorney,
00:37:53.260 nor am I a mind reader,
00:37:54.600 but if she dismisses the documents case
00:37:57.320 on the basis of selective prosecution,
00:38:00.040 you can already know that Andrew Weissman
00:38:04.240 and Neil Keitel and Norm Eisen
00:38:06.780 and all of the architects of the Ukraine impeachment,
00:38:11.900 the Russian collusion hoax,
00:38:14.640 the Colorado-based but multi-state-based effort
00:38:19.720 to bar Donald Trump from the ballot,
00:38:22.820 despite the fact that he has never been charged
00:38:26.460 or convicted of insurrection in any court anywhere,
00:38:30.340 they will be apoplectic.
00:38:32.300 In fact, I think this bloodbath attack on Trump
00:38:36.620 is really born of this hysteria, of this apoplexy.
00:38:42.400 And then, amazingly, of all people,
00:38:46.400 Adam Pencilneck Schiff just spit it right out.
00:38:50.160 He told Politico, who got the headline,
00:38:53.880 that the Justice Department should have moved faster
00:38:57.600 with the Trump indictments.
00:39:00.260 What he means by that is
00:39:01.640 they are desperate to have Donald Trump stand trial
00:39:05.580 somewhere prior to the November election
00:39:10.000 to drain his resources, his money,
00:39:13.220 drain his time.
00:39:14.580 In a criminal case, you have to be present
00:39:16.720 for the proceedings and, of course,
00:39:19.240 further sully his name.
00:39:21.920 For the first time, about two weeks ago,
00:39:24.640 we saw new polls that showed that
00:39:27.280 even if he were convicted,
00:39:29.240 he would continue to lead Joe Biden,
00:39:32.480 albeit being under 50% in most swing states.
00:39:37.020 Still, in most cases, he maintains a lead
00:39:39.160 that is outside the margin of error.
00:39:43.520 So, this is, I think, explains this hysteria
00:39:48.560 to try to cause a conflagration
00:39:51.760 by distorting what Trump said.
00:39:54.560 You can go to the dictionary
00:39:56.120 and look at the definition of bloodbath.
00:39:59.220 And the third definition is an economic definition.
00:40:02.980 It is a disaster within one economic industry.
00:40:08.340 So, the desperation here, I think, is palpable.
00:40:11.460 Your view.
00:40:12.820 Absolutely, Roger.
00:40:13.760 And if you look at Politico,
00:40:14.980 who we've talked about ad nauseum here,
00:40:17.140 you know, it's just unbelievable
00:40:18.480 the level that they distort the truth
00:40:20.440 and the level that they're going after this.
00:40:22.500 And I think you're right.
00:40:23.560 You know, what makes these people think
00:40:25.420 that Trump getting convicted of anything
00:40:27.940 is going to change in numbers?
00:40:29.200 He had a mugshot.
00:40:30.280 I mean, you know, Roger,
00:40:31.340 I'm a firm believer in that
00:40:32.760 the details sometimes are almost
00:40:34.700 not even as powerful as images.
00:40:37.100 And imagery, really,
00:40:38.480 especially in the social media age,
00:40:40.540 has taken over.
00:40:42.100 And more people can understand an image
00:40:43.860 than they can understand words on a page.
00:40:47.060 And if you look at the situation with Trump,
00:40:49.380 he had a mugshot.
00:40:50.260 I think if you were going to damage him
00:40:51.900 with, you know, cases or anything like this,
00:40:54.480 the mugshot would have been the nail in the coffin.
00:40:56.860 And as we saw,
00:40:57.980 it was the most popular post on X.
00:41:00.080 I'm pretty sure it has something like 280 million likes.
00:41:02.880 It's an unbelievable situation.
00:41:06.120 And I don't know why at all these people think
00:41:09.520 that a conviction is going to change anybody's mind.
00:41:12.300 Because I mean,
00:41:13.840 I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this, Roger.
00:41:15.760 I think most people that have decided,
00:41:18.720 you know, are looking at their bank accounts
00:41:20.480 or looking the way that things have been going
00:41:21.840 the last few years,
00:41:23.080 they've decided that they want to change.
00:41:25.600 And they've decided that they want an outsider.
00:41:27.820 And I think Trump is really the person
00:41:30.000 that they're picking.
00:41:31.160 And that's why, you know,
00:41:32.920 there's some interesting things
00:41:34.020 we're going to get into here about the 2024 election.
00:41:36.680 But as I said, Roger,
00:41:37.960 why do they think that a conviction
00:41:40.140 is going to hurt Trump,
00:41:41.640 especially with the mugshot?
00:41:42.680 It just seems nonsensical, no?
00:41:44.940 Well, it's conventional wisdom thinking.
00:41:47.480 Normally, a candidate gets charged
00:41:49.520 with a state or federal crime
00:41:50.920 while running for office.
00:41:52.680 Their support would dry up.
00:41:54.520 Their money would dry up.
00:41:55.980 Their candidacy would implode.
00:41:58.740 The problem here is
00:42:00.000 these folks are victims of their own success.
00:42:03.000 People now know,
00:42:04.180 at least enough of the people,
00:42:05.960 that there was no Russian collusion.
00:42:09.840 The Steele dossier was a fraud.
00:42:12.780 Sorry, but the Russians never conducted 0.69
00:42:15.300 an online hack of the DNC.
00:42:18.020 That's a claim for which proof
00:42:19.440 has never been produced.
00:42:21.920 The Alpha Bank scandal comes to mind.
00:42:27.340 The idea that Trump had
00:42:28.620 some kind of computer connection
00:42:30.760 out of Trump Tower with a Russian bank.
00:42:33.440 Hillary Clinton herself knew
00:42:34.800 that that was a lie,
00:42:35.880 but according to Special Counsel John Durham,
00:42:38.860 she gave the go-ahead
00:42:39.940 to smear Donald Trump with it.
00:42:42.500 Think about what we showed earlier
00:42:44.600 with Nancy Pelosi.
00:42:46.460 She openly says it.
00:42:47.760 The whole idea is to create a smear,
00:42:50.480 get a reporter to write about it,
00:42:53.380 then point to that report
00:42:55.420 as proof that your smear is true.
00:42:59.120 And really, a great hat tip
00:43:01.620 to my friend Scott Adams,
00:43:03.880 who on X has compiled a list
00:43:07.340 of all of these hoaxes.
00:43:09.600 It's a list that he actually updates
00:43:12.120 from time to time
00:43:13.120 because there have been
00:43:14.740 so many of them,
00:43:16.940 they're hard to remember all of them.
00:43:20.540 But you're right.
00:43:21.960 It's a different day.
00:43:23.960 Back when Mueller was in his heyday,
00:43:25.720 he was universally respected.
00:43:27.660 Even Republicans said,
00:43:29.180 well, the investigation should go forward.
00:43:31.020 And there was no platform
00:43:34.060 from which anyone could challenge
00:43:37.060 the falsified narrative
00:43:40.340 of the Democrat media cabal.
00:43:44.500 That is no longer true.
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00:46:27.520 You're in the Stone Zone and I'm here with my co-host, Troy Smith of Slingshot.News.
00:46:33.900 Troy, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who bolted the Democratic Party, is now seeking to run as an independent.
00:46:43.900 My sources tell me that he's having some difficulty getting on the ballot, which is, as you know,
00:46:50.660 a very difficult, arcane, labor-intensive, and highly fraught legal process.
00:46:58.780 The largest states and some of the swing states make it particularly difficult.
00:47:04.660 You don't just walk into the Board of Elections, pay a fee, and sign your name.
00:47:09.100 There are a few states like that, but they tend to be smaller.
00:47:12.020 This is a Herculean task, particularly for someone who's never done it before.
00:47:18.380 The established smaller parties, the Libertarians and the Green Party, had success in getting
00:47:26.080 on the ballot in the vast majority of states, but that's because they have party members,
00:47:32.940 so they have a pool of labor, and they also have intense experience, having done it before.
00:47:39.520 Even Libertarians got blocked, and I think it was Michigan and Oklahoma in 2012, even though
00:47:48.520 they had the necessary number of signatures, and they legally required.
00:47:53.780 Remember that the laws governing running as an independent are written by Republicans and
00:48:00.060 Democrats working together to try to eliminate all competition.
00:48:05.860 Now, Robert Kennedy sought to build suspense over his selection of a vice presidential running
00:48:14.020 mate.
00:48:14.860 By law, when he files to get on the ballot as a presidential candidate, he must also submit
00:48:22.340 the name of his vice presidential running mate.
00:48:25.340 Some states allow you to make a change in that designation prior to the ballots being printed or the machines
00:48:35.680 being programmed, so he has a little but not much flexibility.
00:48:40.920 He sought to build suspense over his selection of his running mate.
00:48:46.040 There was public speculation that it would either be former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura
00:48:51.780 or football star Aaron Rodgers, but then there was a leaked story that said his selection is a woman,
00:49:01.160 I believe her name is Nicole Shanahan, and this was on the basis of a leak.
00:49:08.000 Now, that leak destroyed the suspense and momentum that Kennedy was trying to use to build around
00:49:14.060 this historic announcement.
00:49:17.280 Troy, break this down for us.
00:49:19.860 Well, Roger, there's a piece on slingshot.news that covers all of this, and it's so important
00:49:24.380 because, as you said, he's got 26 states' push for getting on the ballot, which means that, you know,
00:49:31.820 after he selected this running mate, Roger, 26 states, that's where he's pending.
00:49:36.800 Now he has the ability to start, you know, really pushing to get on the ballot, but he has obtained
00:49:42.400 ballot access in four different states, Hawaii, Nevada, Utah, and New Hampshire to this point.
00:49:48.900 And as you pointed out, an independent candidate like Robert F. Kennedy, you know, the media doesn't
00:49:53.320 want to talk about them anyway, so any big announcement, whether it was his split from
00:49:57.520 the Democrat primary or this announcement of his running mate, has the potential to bring
00:50:03.420 in not only millions of dollars, but a lot more eyeballs. And in both cases, Roger, the information
00:50:10.240 regarding his exit from the Democrat primary and his announcement now of his VP were leaked in
00:50:18.120 mediaite by a reporter named Diana Falzone. And within her article, she heavily says that it's because
00:50:27.540 of a campaign source that she has this information. And if you go back to when Kennedy split from the
00:50:33.380 Democrat primary, she also talks about this same source. So the RFK campaign has a leak within
00:50:40.100 their campaign that I would say is working to the detriment of the campaign. Because if you look at
00:50:45.680 these announcements, Roger, it's a huge opportunity to reach a lot of people. It's a huge opportunity
00:50:50.200 to basically get the word out about their campaign. Now, within this article on slingshot.news,
00:50:56.680 we also talk about how Kennedy is faring in different swing states heading into 2024. And this is something
00:51:03.520 that I was really eager to talk to you about, wanted to get your opinion on. And I found in Arizona, in
00:51:09.580 Michigan, in Pennsylvania, in Nevada, and in Wisconsin, RFK Jr.'s support is a higher percentage of the vote than
00:51:19.280 that which separates Biden and Trump. And the only swing state that I could find that this wasn't the
00:51:25.860 case was Georgia, where RFK seems to be polling extremely weak. And that might have to do with the
00:51:30.540 fact that his campaign really hasn't started pushing yet. But within this article, we talk about the
00:51:35.480 support that he has in the swing states. And in Nevada, a state that we've talked about here with
00:51:40.760 Rich Barris, who he predicts will be one of the toss-up states, Kennedy has about 10% of the support,
00:51:47.620 according to most recent polls. So I'm interested to hear your thoughts on that, Roger. Do you think
00:51:54.240 Kennedy will have an effect on this election? I mean, just, it seems to me that him being in Nevada
00:51:58.580 alone will guarantee that he has some sort of impact on the election results here.
00:52:03.460 You know, it's likely that he'll have an impact. First of all, as I've said previously, we have to
00:52:07.960 determine how many states and which states he gets on the ballot. I don't think you can make one
00:52:13.320 monolithic conclusion, reach one monolithic conclusion in terms of who he helps or hurts.
00:52:20.700 It appeared early on that he took a disproportionate number of votes from Trump. I think the reason for
00:52:27.820 that is the only media that was willing to cover him was alternative and conservative-leaning media.
00:52:35.500 He couldn't get a fair hearing on CNN or any of the networks. Even when they did interview them,
00:52:41.820 they severely edited those interviews because they don't want to discuss his views on health
00:52:48.420 freedom. But also, when you start looking at it on a state-by-state basis, you reach slightly
00:52:56.360 different conclusions. It appears that in some states, he is pulling disproportionately from Biden.
00:53:02.760 In other states, he's pulling disproportionately from Trump. He seems to be operating on the assumption
00:53:11.880 that he's going to be included in some debates. I don't think that's at all certain.
00:53:20.120 What will happen on debates here not only will be crucial to the outcome of the election, but it's not
00:53:26.940 clear that Trump will agree to be governed by the schedule set up by the presidential commission on
00:53:34.060 debates, which is, of course, not appointed by the president, not a commission, and most certainly
00:53:40.060 not about debate. They have traditionally used a criteria of polling saying you had to hit a certain
00:53:49.220 threshold in three different national polls within the same time frame. But when that threshold was 15%,
00:54:00.580 and Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson very briefly got a higher rating, they quickly called the
00:54:09.220 meeting of the commission. The co-chairs of the commission, by the way, are the Republican and Democrat
00:54:15.220 national chairpeople. And they changed that threshold to 20%. Had Johnson gotten to 20%, they would have
00:54:25.620 changed it to 25%. So it's not at all clear that he's going to be able to shoot his way into these debates.
00:54:35.300 And it's not at all clear that he's going to get on the ballot. It is very clear, however,
00:54:41.380 that his campaign so far seems to be plagued with amateurism and a lot of people shooting at the
00:54:49.380 campaign. A major piece by that same outlet, Mediaite, several months ago talking about how
00:54:58.180 the campaign was chaotic, complaining about the leadership of the campaign manager who is Robert
00:55:05.540 Kennedy's daughter-in-law. I think her name is Fox Kennedy. She comes from a CIA background,
00:55:12.660 complaints about Dell Bigtree, for whom I have a high regard. He's a documentary producer,
00:55:20.740 but took time off from his business to take a role as the communications director. They've both been
00:55:27.940 attacked, under attack by nameless individuals. I mean, everybody seems to be leaking,
00:55:35.540 and they seem to be forming the firing squad in a circle. This is not helpful to a presidential
00:55:42.340 campaign. One thing I can tell you as a veteran of 13 presidential campaigns, if your campaign is
00:55:50.100 divided and you have internal fighting, you will very, very definitely lose. All right, Troy, I'm going
00:55:58.020 to wrap it up here for today's edition of The Stone Zone. Folks, this past weekend on WABC Radio,
00:56:05.940 I interviewed Marjorie Taylor Greene, economist Barry Habib, who decimated the truth about Bidenomics,
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