Justin Waller is an entrepreneur, businessman, patriot, and all-around good guy. He is the manifestation of the American Dream. He has built a multi-million dollar empire through his real estate empire, his platform collaborations on YouTube, and his partnership with the online school, The Real World. In this episode of The Stone Zone with Roger Stone, Stone talks with Justin Waller about what it means to be a man of action and what it takes to live up to the American dream. Stone is a New York Times best selling author, best-selling author, and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society. He s served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents, and is a prolific writer, and has been a regular contributor to conservative publications such as The Weekly Standard, The Daily Caller, and Rolling Stone. He is a frequent guest on conservative media outlets such as CNN, Fox News, CBS, and NPR, and he is a regular guest on Fox News. The Stonezone is hosted by Roger Stone and is produced by Troy Huntley. This episode was produced in conjunction with Slingshot News, a production of Gimlet Media, a subsidiary of the New York Magazine, and produced in partnership with The Stone Company. It was edited and produced by David Axelrod and edited by Daniel Gulati, a partner of The Daily Beast, and written by Alex Blumberg, a contributing to The Daily Wire, and The Huffington Post, among other publications, and published by The Daily Mail, The New York Review, and the New Republic. and The New Republic, among many other publications. Roger Stone is an avid reader and supporter of conservative causes and events, including The New Yorker, The National Post, The Wall Street Journal, and Harvard Business Review, The Harvard Crimson, and National Post. Thank you for listening to The StoneZine, and for contributing to the Stone Zone Podcast, and we hope you enjoy this episode and share it with your friends and family and family. Tweet us your thoughts on it on social media! and your thoughts and thoughts on the show! on the episode on this episode on the topic of the StoneZ Zone. on in the comments section below! and on your social media accounts .
00:00:00.000The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit Roger Stone.
00:00:07.240Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.
00:00:11.260He is a New York Times best-selling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald
00:00:16.000Trump. As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts,
00:00:20.940spoken at countless venues, and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the
00:00:26.000Cambridge Union Society. Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena,
00:00:31.140Stone has become a pop culture icon. And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.
00:00:40.900Welcome back. I'm Roger Stone. And yes, you are back in The Stone Zone. A tumultuous week in American
00:00:48.820politics last night, last week, as President Donald Trump prepares to continue the trial in
00:00:55.900New York City today, where he's been jacked up by District Attorney Alvin Bragg in what,
00:01:03.460even if Trump were guilty, which is not at all certain, would be a simple business records case,
00:01:10.380a civil case, in which he would pay a fine. But instead, they have bumped this up to a felony.
00:01:18.160Why? Well, because it's election interference. Anyway, we will get to that later. Joining me first,
00:01:24.840my co-host, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.News, here to help me in the discussion with Justin
00:01:33.700Waller, entrepreneur, businessman, patriot, and all-around good guy. Troy, welcome to The Stone
00:01:40.960Stone Zone. You're back. Roger, it's always an honor to be here. I hope you had a good weekend.
00:01:46.080It was a terrific weekend. Let's get right into it. Very excited about having this guest.
00:01:52.520Originating in southern Louisiana, Justin Waller's entrepreneurial journey started by traveling
00:01:58.360across the United States with his metal building construction business at first. Ultimately,
00:02:04.440he reached all 50 states and did business in the Caribbean. Since then, his business has expanded
00:02:10.740across the world, not only with his real estate development, but his platform collaborations
00:02:16.200on YouTube and his partnership with the online school, The Real World. In other words, Justin is
00:02:22.880imparting some very valuable education and information that I think young men in America today need to pay
00:02:30.980heed to. Justin's real estate portfolio now includes seven mobile park homes, multiple multi-film,
00:02:39.400multi-single family properties, commercial warehouse properties, largely multi-American apartment buildings
00:02:46.540across the United States, and he's doing a major property development in Dubai. So, in other words,
00:02:52.820Justin Waller is the manifestation of the American dream. Right now, joining us to give his worldview,
00:03:01.520my new friend, Justin Waller. Roger, I'm glad to be here. Justin, I'm very, very pleased to have you here. I must tell you, I've been operating in the public arena for 45 years. It's very, very rare that I meet someone, and the very first time, I'm extraordinarily impressed with them. You and I had dinner about, I don't know, maybe two weeks ago. We subsequently did a very brief phone call.
00:03:30.520But I am extraordinarily impressed with you because of your ability to cut right to the heart of the matter. In other words, there's not a lot of small talk. You are very clearly a man of action. I think it was Richard Nixon who said, there are men of thought, and then there are men of action. You, sir, are a man of action. Thanks for joining us.
00:03:53.260Really glad to be here. Really glad to be here. And, you know, it's really important that we get straight to the point. There's so many things going on in the world today that if you could just put it in plain English, people would understand it much better.
00:04:07.480The way the way the economy is going on in the interest rates, people, you know, sending massive amounts of money overseas while there's people at home really suffering.
00:04:17.240I don't think there's a better way to go about speaking about the things that are going on in the world rather than just say them in plain English so the normal American can understand it.
00:04:27.980I think you're absolutely right about that.
00:04:32.560The problem, of course, is that we have to get through the layers of so-called fake news.
00:04:38.300I mean, it is true that X, formerly known as Twitter, has now at least given us a foothold for a broader cross-section of opinions, yet many, many of the larger, indeed the largest, social media platforms, modes of communication, continue to be severely censored, shadow banned, and canceled.
00:05:04.040You've had notable success on YouTube.
00:05:50.220Well, first thing is you are completely right about censorship.
00:05:52.880About six weeks ago, I woke up and three channels that had plaques getting close to a million subs across all three channels was wiped away overnight.
00:06:03.420Vice News drops an article the same day telling the world that it was because they got in touch with YouTube and YouTube took me down.
00:06:31.020But I think that they want young men to be suppressed, feel like they don't have hope.
00:06:36.140So they just give up and fall into the machine.
00:06:38.360But unfortunately, we're in this place where the average man cannot get up and go to work and make enough money to support a family, which I think truly hurts the nuclear family.
00:06:49.280But it also hurts the morale in the heart of the young man.
00:06:52.480Many men, if they could just get up, go to work, have a job where they could support a wife and some children, this world would be a lot better place, particularly America.
00:07:02.280And a place where a lot of young men want to do their best.
00:07:05.140Young men in this generation are not lazy.
00:07:07.080They're disenfranchised and they feel hopeless because we've created a scenario where a young man cannot get up, go to work, work with his hands, work in a factory, work anywhere but make money on the Internet and be able to support a family and be able to have a good life.
00:07:22.300And so for young men out there that are struggling with these things, trying to find ways to find hope in America and masculine encouragement in a world full of, let's face it, households that have mostly single mothers, marriage is failing in a lot of ways.
00:07:39.540And I think a lot of that has to do with when we went off the gold standard and the average working man could no longer get up and go to work every day and support a family.
00:07:47.400So we're definitely in a dire place for young men and young women because young women are now forced into this scenario where they have to act as if they are men and they want to compete with men.
00:07:56.520And I don't think that's naturally female nature.
00:07:58.480I don't think women actually want to go out there and compete against men.
00:08:02.320I think women don't have a choice but to now go out and compete against men because the men themselves, the young men particularly, don't have a lot of choice in their ability to go create a life that could support a family and do the things that it took for us to get America in the position that it's in now.
00:08:19.260Because if you really look at the grander scheme of things, a lot of people are trying to quit on America.
00:08:25.560But what they forget is America is still the goat.
00:09:10.600We were actually in a group text just the other day and he was picking on me about it.
00:09:14.000And I said, you know what the real issue is?
00:09:15.740It's really the way the laws are set up.
00:09:18.040You know, if we're in a position where nobody's incentivized to have a family and the divorce court laws and the way the laws work in marriage, why would a young man in his 20 get married in America today?
00:09:32.980The laws are absolutely set up for him to fail.
00:09:37.200In fact, he has a large disincentivized reason to avoid having children.
00:09:42.800And I think that's going to hurt America, regardless of what happens to Japan, because I'm so America that at this point, I'm almost tired of hearing about other countries.
00:09:51.660We're sending aid to other countries while we have starving children, uneducated youth, homes with no fathers, people that really need our support in this country.
00:10:03.660And I know that, you know, America and Japan, good terms, fine.
00:10:07.620My main concern is the young men that are here today that feel like they don't have a chance to build the American dream.
00:10:17.560That's the only thing that's going to keep America together.
00:14:00.960What is the single most important thing that you tell or try to teach to young men who want a career like you in business?
00:14:13.200Yeah, so if it were me, and particularly if they wanted to follow my exact same path, construction is not an easy road.
00:14:21.340But there's a lot of fulfillment that comes from it, especially if you love your country.
00:14:25.000I've been able to build schools, churches, government buildings, hospitals, Amazon warehouses, Costco, the things that make the world go around.
00:14:32.840We live in a world today where, you know, a young lady that maybe shows her behind on OnlyFans can make more money than the man that paved the road for you to get to where you're going.
00:14:42.720And I think that's a sad thing, but I do think that's going to change in time as the demand for people that work in the construction and the real estate space grows,
00:14:50.860just purely out of the fact that not as many people are going into it.
00:14:54.720And so in the future, I think that we'll see a swing in the demand for people that work with their hands, that are plumbers, electricians.
00:15:02.520I always say that there's going to be YouTube channels in the next 10 years that are going to tell people the next hack is to go get a plumbing license or to learn to be an electrician.
00:15:10.920Because these are the things that make the world go round.
00:15:13.900People overlook the fact that, you know, influencers get most of the attention and they forget about the men that build this country and make things the way they are so society can be like it is.
00:15:26.560I have this big campaign out where I tell people to go buy a man a beer.
00:15:30.060If you see a man in work boots and, you know, he's been working hard or he's a cop or he's a firefighter or he's a guy that just works on the local trash truck.
00:15:41.880So for any young men that are looking to me for a career path, I'll tell you, if you start right now, by the time you ramp that company up and you put the systems in place and you have policies and procedures and you can really scale to something of value,
00:15:56.040you can not only change the life of people around you, but you'll be able to change your own.
00:15:59.680I think the tide is going to turn in this area.
00:16:01.780We need people that work with their hands.
00:16:04.220It's not the men that wear Rolexes that are the backbone of society.
00:16:08.220It's the men with calluses on their hands.
00:16:10.920Those are the men that make this world work.
00:16:13.000So if any young man is thinking about going into the trades or into construction or into real estate where you have real assets, you know, real things that are being built for society, I think it's a great opportunity.
00:16:25.080And I think that as time goes on, there'll be a larger and larger ROI as your company grows and as the world needs you even more.
00:16:34.040Justin, is a college education today necessary?
00:17:08.640You have an agenda shoved down your throat by a liberal professor that makes you hate everybody around you, makes you not believe in your country.
00:17:16.240Or you go into the real world, learn a real skill from a real business owner that's a millionaire in that business in real time.
00:17:24.900There's not a greater campus in the world for people.
00:17:27.440And I think that's why Tate's being attacked.
00:17:29.220I think that's why my channel got taken down from YouTube is because we're getting in the pockets of some large colleges.
00:17:35.060And on top of that, what are you going to do with a college degree today?
00:17:39.800You're going to rack up a mountain of debt.
00:17:42.740You're going to waste four years of your life.
00:17:44.400And you're going to come out of college to a job that's not going to pay you anywhere near what it used to.
00:17:50.760And even if it does, it will not beat inflation.
00:17:53.780So, no, I don't think college is the best route to go.
00:17:55.980I think you should go one of two routes.
00:17:57.800Either you should go on a campus like the real world, learn how to create value in the ecosystem of the online economy,
00:18:03.680or you should follow more of the things that I'm teaching on construction in real estate.
00:18:09.920But either way, college is not going to be the answer.
00:18:13.640What if you put that same investment of money into a property or into yourself,
00:18:18.620and you were able to go out in any market at any time and generate income?
00:18:24.400I often say that you could drop me blindfolded and naked in any city in America,
00:18:28.580and I'd be hanging steel in six weeks.
00:18:30.980That's from the skill sets of understanding what real business looks like in the real world.
00:18:35.920And unfortunately, college is just not providing that today.
00:18:40.580Troy, do you have a question for our guest, Justin Waller?
00:21:01.560And I suspect that this is never going to stop.
00:21:04.380And what I love about the boys is that they have each other, they have group, they have brotherhood, myself included.
00:21:11.200And they're just ready to do the right thing at all times.
00:21:13.900And I don't think that there's anything in this world that will stop that.
00:21:17.900Yeah, it's an interesting absolute point of fact is people always want more of what you tell them they can't have.
00:21:25.020So the more they try to suppress the Tate brothers and their positive message for young men, the more they try to smear them, the more popular they will become, the more people will seek them out.
00:21:39.500So I'm not an attorney, but the way I read this is that they couldn't successfully fabricate the charges of sex trafficking that they tried to hook up in Romania.
00:22:38.000And to your point, they make a martyr out of people.
00:22:40.440For example, every time they charge Trump, I feel like he has more and more people that support him.
00:22:44.740Because people are tired of getting lied to.
00:22:46.800And the way they're going about this almost systemically with these lawsuits, how they came after you, how they came after Jones and wrecked Jones, they're trying to do it to Trump.
00:22:57.860And so I think that in time that the more that they attack people that speak truth in this world, people that care about actual human beings rather than padding their pockets, then the world's going to change in a positive way.
00:23:12.520So I trust that Trump is going to get through all of this.
00:23:15.200In fact, I've often said that the most arrogant thing the Democrats have ever done is to put Joe Biden as a Democratic nominee.
00:23:21.160It just proves that they have no intention of having a debate, having a real election.
00:23:25.940Their real goal is to put Donald Trump in jail.
00:23:28.860And I think that's the same thing that's happened to Andrew.
00:23:30.920They're trying to shut him up through legal ways, trying to empty his bank account.
00:23:35.120But he's not going to stop fighting all the way down to if they did find a way to finally bankrupt him somehow, which I do not think they can.
00:23:43.300He would still fight and still scream at the top of the mountains for truth and what's right and what's right for young men and young women all across the world.
00:23:51.160Troy, final question for our guest, Justin Waller.
00:23:56.040Well, Justin, I think what we're seeing right now is an epic fight, and it's a fight for individualism and for freedom.
00:24:02.700And you have been the recipient of a lot of censorship and Andrew Tate and a lot of others as well for standing up for young men.
00:24:10.260I know you just said that you think that Trump, you know, you see him winning in the end.
00:24:14.880What do you see for the young men out there?
00:24:16.440Do you think that there's enough people speaking truth that will be able to turn the tide here and that young men will be independent, empowered and living lives of liberty again anytime soon?
00:24:26.460I think for the select few that get out there and really push and still believe in either the American dream or the dream of whatever nation that they're in.
00:24:37.160If they get up and they work hard and they're honest and do their very best every day, they can have a life much more incredible than they ever imagined.
00:24:45.700I think as far as America goes, there's probably some things we need to do legislatively, law wise, to change the way people can be attacked and exploited, even when they're innocent.
00:24:57.920I think that if we can get the right president in office, that a lot of these wars would not be happening.
00:25:03.820If we had a wartime leader like Trump, somebody that the rest of the world respects and acknowledges as a strong leader that's behind the greatest superpower that ever was, then we can start doing things to correct taxes, create better jobs in this country and give young men a better chance at the American dream, at the thought of having a family, the thought of being married, have a wife and live a life that we ultimately have been promising for a long time and seems to be slipping away.
00:25:32.500We need Trump in the White House. We need guys like Tate that are able to be free and speak about the truths of the world.
00:25:39.100And that will give young men enough inspiration and actual hope to create a better life for themselves.
00:25:45.380Justin, if people want to find your online school, The Real World, where do they go?
00:25:51.360Yeah, just message me on Twitter, Waller7J, or you could join my daily newsletter at JustinWinWaller.com.
00:26:05.600We'll put a graphic up of that. We appreciate your being here.
00:26:09.440Many thanks to Justin Waller for joining us today in the Stone Zone, folks.
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00:26:26.980Thanks again to our special guest, Justin Waller.
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