Joe Pags ｜ 05-05-25
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In this episode of The Stone Zone with Rob Stone, host Rob Stone is joined by his good friend Joe Pesco, a nationally syndicated radio and television talk show host known for his pungent and dynamic blend of news commentary and humor.
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this is the stone zone with roger stone they went after a guy named roger stone who's sitting in the
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office and i'll say this in front of roger he's no baby and right now he's cleaner than anybody
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in this place now as i treated him very unfairly now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's
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roger stone welcome back we're in the stone zone and joining us now is my friend joe peglia rulo
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widely known as joe pegs he's a nationally syndicated radio and television talk show host
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known for his pungent and dynamic blend of news commentary and humor joe i'm going to be honest
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with you virtually everything i know about radio i have learned by listening to you it's a great
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honor to have you in the stone zone today well i'm listen roger you gotta be kidding me i mean
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that is an absolute honor thank you for saying that by the way thank you for being my second
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guest ever on my new podcast coming up we can get into details of that coming up but thank you for
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everything that you're doing i love listening to you i love having you on the show and i love learning
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from you my man you can listen to joe's show by going to joe pegs.com joe pegs.com i am not
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understating what i say he's one of the most influential uh voices in the country today when
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it comes to calling out the fake news and telling you what's really going on in fact uh joe has been
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recognized by talkers magazine which is kind of the industry standard as one of the most influential
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talk show hosts in the country so joe let me just uh start with a softball a hundred days plus now
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how's donald trump doing well it's an a for me roger it's not an a plus not an a minus it's an
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a for me the only one thing that i thought was kind of a misstep was and you and i talked about
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this before was how they rolled out the tariff information i'm for tariffs i think they're going
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to work it's a great leverage play but the way the president rolled it out now i'm not blaming him
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it took too long by april 2nd when he came out with the chart that said this is how they're screwing us
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on trade that made perfect sense to every american but for about two and a half months
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most americans were like i don't like it it's just an extra tax it's going to make the
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the prices go up everything else he promised it he ended up doing it and if he did nothing else
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roger the fact that he closed the southern border what that was all i needed i mean to be honest
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with you he could do the rest of it over the next four years and and i trust him to do it he
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crammed so much into the first hundred days i just thought the tariffs were a little bit clunky
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but other than that i give him a solid a yeah i think actually in his heart of hearts he doesn't
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really like tariffs he'd love to go to zero tariffs with all of our trading partners and have a mutually
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beneficial relationship but that hasn't been the truth we haven't had a free trade and we haven't
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had fair trade and therefore he will use tariffs as a cudgel to make our trading partners give us a
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fair deal and he rejects these one size fits all trade agreements like gat for example uh and nafta
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uh because they they did not serve our country well uh what's amazing to me is the way the liberal media
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uh when they deal with the immigration issue you just referred to continue to misrepresent who this
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guy kilmar abrigo garcia is i keep calling him a quote unquote maryland man as if he is a u.s citizen
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with the rights of a u.s citizen when in fact there is no question that he is a violent ms 13 illegal
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gangbanger he's a violent gang member but the liberal media wants to rewrite the narrative
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well let's be absolutely clear about who the guy is what you just said is absolutely correct
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he is an el salvador citizen and he's back home in el salvador he's a guy who twice was adjudicated by
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two different judges as being a member of ms 13 they believed an undercover informant they did not
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believe a regular cia he is a guy who got due process by asking for asylum and was denied and had a final
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deportation order the only thing that was keeping him in the country was there was a withholding of
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removal only to el salvador they could have sent him anywhere else they wanted to but many make the
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argument that that's gone because president trump made ms 13 and trendy aragua violent terrorist
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organizations if you're a terrorist in this country you don't get the same exact due process as somebody
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else he got due process he was here illegally he was allegedly human trafficking twice his wife
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reported him for allegedly domestic violence and beating the hell out of her this is not a good guy
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the fact that one of our senators out of the hundred that we have went down there
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and had margaritas or something you know over lunch with him is disgusting he even has the tattoos on
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his on his uh fingers that represent they symbolize ms 13 roger you're spot on this guy is a bad guy
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and i look i'm gonna be honest with you i want the media to keep on reporting it the way they are because
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every time they do their ratings and their approval go go way down i think they're at 20 percent now
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maybe 22 percent approval the media they're not believable anymore that's why people like you have such a
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great show it's i was shocked when i saw this uh guy at abc who frankly i'd never seen before
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actually challenged the president and claimed that those tattoos that the president displayed a picture
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of on the guy's knuckles gang tattoos were photoshopped and i checked they're not photoshopped
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they're real it's beyond belief yeah beyond belief well what happened was somebody added the mds the one
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and the three just to show what the symbols represented and terry moran was acting like a moran
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and uh and was getting it wrong that interview that president trump gave him you know roger you
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know trump much better than i do i know him but i don't know him as well as you do i would like to
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say to him please stop doing the interviews until i see the interviews and i see how he dominates them
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and maybe he should keep on doing them that guy looks so foolish when going with that he said some
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would say they represent ms 13 no they're literally the symbols of ms 13 i saw him last friday night right
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after he finished taping the meet the press interview uh and i knew that the interview was
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going to be uh was going to be dynamite i could see by the grin on his face that he had triumphed
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once again in the meantime kamala harris uh recently resurfaced gave her first public speech
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since losing the election i guess she finally sobered up uh all the polls show that if she runs for
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governor of california she's a clear front runner shows you how deranged the people out there have
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become and she is easily the first choice of democrats to be their nominee again in 2028 joe could we be
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that lucky well listen that would be lucky maybe getting aoc that would be lucky maybe get i mean fill
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in the blank jasmine crockett the left is in such disarray i mean as intelligent as you are and as great
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an advisor as you are would you even want to take the job of advising a party that is so completely
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disconnected and destroyed it you've got the left fighting the left fighting the left fighting the
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far left fighting the far left progressive left and you know people like you and me and the president
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we sit back and go okay you guys have at it i hope they offer up kamala harris on a plate again
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on a platter again in 2028 it will be easy pickings because my roger can you imagine 100 days in
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under a harris administration then the country would be over yeah it is it does boggle the mind
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that she's even the front runner but i think this is one of those cases where the polls are accurate
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i'll tell you where they're not accurate the new york times and abc came out with polls last week
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which said showed that the president's approval was dropping now to the untrained eye you might believe
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that but then i looked at the internals on those polls something i've been doing for 50 years in the
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vineyards of american politics and i found in both cases that they undersampled trump supporters in
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fact in the new york times poll only 37 of the people in the overall sample said they voted for
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donald trump in the last election so what i'm seeing joe is the same kind of psyop the same kind of false
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narrative uh that they tried in the run-up to the last election uh where they try to tell us
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uh that the american people feel something or say something or believe something they don't believe
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i have yet to meet a single person who tells me they voted for donald trump but they now regret it
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have you met any such person not one there's not one and in fact some that didn't vote for him are
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saying maybe i should have what's interesting about what you just brought up is you're right
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they're undersampling republicans they're oversampling democrats and they're putting these
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polls up as if that's going to sway somebody's opinion i also don't know that many people who say
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well the poll says this therefore i should probably forget what i see and what i hear what i know
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that trump is doing roger here's the the quandary i i have and i mean this it's a real conundrum
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do we tell the left stop lying about the polls do we tell the complicit media stop being complicit
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or do we sit back and let them do it and just keep on showing the the american public the truth
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versus what they're doling out as false narrative again i was a tv news anchor for a long time i was
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a journalist for a long time i've won dozens of awards for excellence in journalism so i know how
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to do it so i love calling them out but i wonder if we call them out at our own peril because if they
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start doing the job right they might be formidable right now they're a laughingstock uh if you're just
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tuning in we're talking to joe paglia rulo no he's not irish joe pags nationally syndicated radio
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and television talk show host you can you can see and hear his show at joepags.com joe always tells
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you exactly what he thinks uh but also he's known for his personal resilience uh he is a cancer survivor
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who became an advocate for health awareness uh what i love about joe is he always gives it to you
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straight from the shoulder sometimes he'll tell you things you don't want to hear because they're
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true uh no before before you came on joe we're talking about robert f kennedy and this entire
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effort to get to the bottom of what's commonly known as chemtrails and those of us who saw these
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things in the sky and comment on we were called conspiracy theorists kooks nuts people said oh you need
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to be wearing a tinfoil hat now we learn that they're real and that rfk intends to get to the
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bottom of whoever is spraying these toxic chemicals into the air and to stop them in the meantime he
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just announced uh that we are going to be phasing out six synthetic dyes in our food green number three
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red 40 yellow number five and number six blue number one number two both of all of which are
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already illegal uh in europe but we still have it in our food i told my wife at dinner last night after
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listening to rfk i'm afraid to eat anything i think he's doing a great job what's your feeling
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well i agree with you i i was lucky enough to interview him the day before the uh before the
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election in november i interviewed him a couple years earlier for about 35 40 minutes the
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guy just wants us to be healthy you know he doesn't align with donald trump on a lot of political
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things doesn't align with you and me and a lot of political things that doesn't matter if if my kids
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are eating fruit loops because they have special dyes to make them look more attractive but yet we
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don't really know what the dyes might do to somebody's health they need to be gone and why is it that
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canada or as you said europe are getting such healthier food from the same exact mills and the same exact
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factories that are making it for us it's about time somebody in government said you know we've got these
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organizations in government that aren't doing anything the fda the the hhs i mean fill in the
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blank all these medical and all these health organizations we're just like raising money
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bureaucratically and not doing anything to make sure that we are healthy and safe we're one of
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the fattest countries on the planet right now for no reason other than we don't know what's in our
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food so i'm with you oh i want this guy to go and do the job he said he would do he's what 70 years
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old and and healthy as an ox and he looks like a bodybuilder i want that guy to be in charge of making
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sure that my kids when they eat when my family and i sit down and you and your wife sit down and eat
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we're eating healthy food that we can rely is healthy all that stuff that was in there roger
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they kept on making the ingredients smaller and smaller on the label we couldn't even track down
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what they were you can't pronounce most of them so i love the job he's doing so far yeah i'm in total
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agreement i think what we experienced this last election was more than just a personal triumph for
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donald trump or the republican party what i saw was a complete realignment of our politics in which
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all people who believe in peace who believe in free speech who believe in common sense uh were under
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one banner and those who favor war favor censorship think that corporate profit is fine do we have to
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examine uh the drugs that they're giving our families or the food that they're selling us that's the
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fault line it's not republican and democrat it's not even liberal and conservative anymore uh it is
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the globalists uh and those who believe in common sense the democrat party uh of of my mother's family
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the party of john f kennedy the party of harry truman even the party of franklin roosevelt that party
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which believed in capitalism which believed in free enterprise which believed in god uh which believed in a
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strong national defense that democrat party literally no longer exists well they're all
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conservatives now roger they they are they've all come to this side i mean think about a party
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think about a movement in maga that includes elon musk a liberal that includes tulsi gabbard a a liberal
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before now uh rfk jr these people that are coming up you've got the the former sheriff of la county i think
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his name is bill little wave who just now announced he's going from democrat to republican because he cannot
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any longer sit by and watch the ridiculous progressive policies that are killing his great
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folks if you're just tuning in we're talking to joe paggs uh nationally syndicated radio and
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television talk show host you're tuned into the stone zone on the red apple audio networks we're
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going to be back with some more pungent commentary from my friend joe paggs or whatever you do please
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don't touch that dial we'll be right back in the stone zone on the other side don't go away
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this is the stone zone with roger stone they went after a guy named roger stone who's sitting in the
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office and i'll say this in front of roger he's no baby and right now he's cleaner than anybody in
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this place now as i treated him very unfairly now get him a zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone
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and we're back in the stone zone we're talking to joe paggs joe pagliarulo a friend of mine but also
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one of the most important uh independent voices in the country uh and a shrewd and keen observer on
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the national political scene joe i'm gonna throw you a tough question uh the president announced last
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week that he was moving his national security advisor mike walsh who had been a north florida
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congressman over to the united nations uh and uh all of washington and the chattering class is
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speculating about who the next national security advisor will be let me ask you who do you think
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it should be i think that it would be the proper thing to give uh general flynn the job again i don't
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think he was allowed to do the job the first time i think they targeted him i think obama wanted him
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out you might have actually educated me on that um the fact is he didn't get a chance to do what i
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think he would do a great job at i would love to see general michael flynn the guy that's tapped for
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that position as far as michael waltz i like him i like him a lot i've interviewed him before i think
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he's a great american the rumblings were and i'm sure you've heard this that the the nsc wasn't
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working as as cohesively as it could have under him and he might be a better fit for the united
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nations but i would love to see general flynn in that job here's uh i i love general flynn i think
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he'd be great but the other fellow i'd consider ironically is his brother retired four-star general
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charles flynn who uh recently retired as the head of the pacific fleet a position uh of great
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responsibility that he held under biden under trump and under obama he is uh still a young man he would
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be great or colonel douglas mcgregor another uh soldier who i think is a brilliant geo political
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tactician uh either one of them would be great with me here's the key thing though and this is the
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difference between this trump administration and the first one the president has put together a
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cohesive team of people who understand that their job is not to delay or or derail or dilute trump's
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agenda their job is to follow his instructions and his agenda and get the job done i uh have in the
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past sometimes uh critical of senator marco rubio uh he's emerging as one of the stars of this cabinet
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he's doing an amazing job this turned out to be in my opinion one of the president's very best
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appointments you don't have the kind of internal bickering you don't have the kind of backbiting but
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you also don't have people who think their job is to save donald trump from himself their job is to
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get his agenda implemented that's the big difference that i see between the first term and this term
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roger i gotta throw this out at you i i was a fan of of uh marco rubio i thought i thought he was a
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very good senator he you know he went from little marco you know in 2016 2015 2016 on the campaign trail
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to probably the most staunch supporter and advisor for president trump that i've ever seen and here's what
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i mean when when trump has asked these questions he now feels so confident and you know it takes him
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a long time to really trust somebody he feels so confident say marco why don't you take that
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and when marco takes that he gives you exactly what the administration line is he doesn't waver at all
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he doesn't say i'm going to try to advise the president to maybe consider this that he says
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this is the way it is you come in here on a visa we will ship your ass out if you lied to us
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you get a green card we find out that you lied you're gone we're not going to have you come here
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and do anti-american and terroristic things and just stay because you feel like it it's a privilege
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to be in my house and i truly believe president trump trust this guy more than he ever thought
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he could i mean to me like you said i'm going to echo what you said i have been more impressed with
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marco rubio than almost anybody else in that on that in that administration and i've been impressed
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by a lot of them yeah it is an all-star team whether it is tulsi gabbard as the director of national
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intelligence or whether it is scott besage who i think is a real outside the box thinking
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brainiac uh when when he and donald trump talk about ending the federal income tax they're not
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kidding they really would like to try to do this and i think they would put forward a plan to do so
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but across the board including rfk who we spoke about this is an all-star team and it already shows
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in this first hundred days all right well unfortunately we are out of time i want to
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thank my guest joe paggs again you can catch his red hot show at joepags.com joepags.com
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joe thanks for your time today thanks for entering the stone zone god bless you and your family
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thank you brother thanks for having me roger thanks
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uh thanks for joining us today in the stone zone as usual we tell it to you straight you get the stone
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