The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - July 21, 2026


Kris Jurski ｜ 07-20-26

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fraud in elections ELI and voter roll monitoring
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Roger Stone Troy Smith Jake Novak
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Chris Jersky Alma Smith Biden John Smith Carrie Lake St. Luke Kemp
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Chris Jerzak is the founder of the People's Audit, a firm that monitors voting in 46 states and D.C. in order to fight election fraud and identify ineligible voters. He is also the co-founder of St. Luke's University Health Network, the highest performing health care system in the United States for quality.

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00:00:00.480 Did you know that St. Luke's University Health Network, based in the Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania,
00:00:05.680 has been recognized by the U.S. government as the highest performing health system in the United
00:00:10.720 States for quality? You heard right. St. Luke's number one recognition affirms our status as the
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00:00:30.040 While looking at the 2020 election, one of the most starting discoveries was that people who sold their homes and moved out of the state were actually still voting from their Florida residences.
00:00:39.780 So Chris Jerzak created the People's Audit to help Florida citizens check who's voting from their homes.
00:00:46.840 But since 2024, he's joined forces with Eagle AI, a firm to build a new system called ELLY, E-L-L-Y, that currently monitors 46 states and D.C.
00:00:59.260 Chris Jersky, welcome into the Stone Zone.
00:01:02.620 Thanks for having me back.
00:01:05.860 So, Chris, how do you feel about the president's address the other night and what are the implications?
00:01:11.400 well much like you and some of the other people that fought all the way through 2020 and especially
00:01:18.280 some of the people that went up to washington for january 6th to feel vindicated um to at least be
00:01:24.040 that it's been addressed but just like you said earlier we're still waiting hopeful and waiting
00:01:29.820 for the arrest because there is no real solutions until people go to jail and are punished for what
00:01:36.200 they did here and the other thing is the systems themselves the systems are all still in place
00:01:40.780 So exactly what we had in 2020 is still all that entire regime is still in place.
00:01:46.700 That is precisely my concern.
00:01:49.380 I mean, first of all, I am astounded by the mainstream media and their Democratic handmaidens ability to continue to say with a straight face that there's no evidence whatsoever of election irregularities, no evidence of voter fraud, no evidence of ballot fraud,
00:02:08.820 No evidence of problems with paper ballots, mail-in ballots, no problems with the machine.
00:02:14.040 And that if you say otherwise, you're some kind of a dangerous nut, even though, of course, you have a First Amendment right to say exactly that.
00:02:22.700 What I've seen, I think you would agree with this, is overwhelming evidence of irregularities.
00:02:28.620 And let's try to take this apart.
00:02:31.320 Where is the greatest danger here?
00:02:33.240 Is it in the voter lists?
00:02:34.540 Is it in the manipulability and instability and insecurity of the machines or is it in the mail-in ballots?
00:02:43.880 I mean, or is it all three?
00:02:46.260 It's all of the above.
00:02:48.100 And also I would add to that is the political machinery that sets themselves up.
00:02:52.520 You probably know about a lot of the grassroots being squeezed out of the local politics in Florida.
00:02:58.120 That's one of the oldest ways of basically pushing and manipulating politics.
00:03:02.460 But I think the biggest part of the fuel that goes into the steel starts with the voter rolls, and it ends up with mail-in ballots mostly.
00:03:11.160 They can generate as many voters as they need, and then with mail-in ballots, send those votes in.
00:03:18.280 So how do we fix our voter list? So let's start there.
00:03:22.020 The biggest thing is that there's laws already on the books.
00:03:25.080 NIVRA, which stands for the National Voter Registration Act that was created in 1993.
00:03:29.420 This was long before the machines came along.
00:03:32.460 uh, was clear in black and white that the citizens, the voter rolls belong to the citizens
00:03:38.600 and that the locals have a duty to make sure that the voter rolls are cleaned of what's very
00:03:44.720 important ineligible voters. Um, a lot of the problems we have now with most of these states,
00:03:50.760 cause I monitor changes month to month is they're not removing anybody. Um, most of the time they
00:03:56.180 basically just go ahead and mark people as inactive and then they keep them on the voter
00:03:59.700 roles. And it's kind of like fuel that whenever they need to have an extra vote, they have this
00:04:04.420 pool of people that they can pull from, either be it real or people that have moved out of state or
00:04:09.880 died. The reality is, is that there's just a number of ways that they could reach in and grab
00:04:14.840 these voters and then basically set them as a mail-in ballot. And it's happened over and over
00:04:19.480 again. People show up at the polls and they're being told at the polls that they've already voted
00:04:24.520 when they have no idea what they're talking about.
00:04:27.240 So essentially mail-in ballots are coming in for these people
00:04:30.940 when they're not paying attention and voting on their behalf.
00:04:36.820 So how do we fix this?
00:04:39.640 One of the things we did was we built a system called ELI
00:04:42.560 that is going through and following NIVRA, that law, to a T,
00:04:46.860 essentially using the tools that they outlined in 1994
00:04:49.920 to how to clean the voter rolls.
00:04:51.720 But it goes far beyond that.
00:04:53.080 Really, it's basically citizen involvement. We've seen the biggest tides turn when citizens in the grassroots get involved, and our system is designed to have volunteers come in and basically give them the opportunity to look over their local voter rolls and find issues and bring those to their local officials.
00:05:10.980 And I think that's really what was the model in Florida. We removed like two million voters out of the voter rolls between 2024 and 2025. And a grand majority of those just happened to be Democrat. It wasn't like we were looking for them.
00:05:25.380 But the biggest problems we had in Florida were like apartment complexes and things like that, where people moved out and basically were already living in another state, just they were never removed from the voter rolls.
00:05:36.440 But it goes more than that. I mean, ultimately, we have to get back to a paper ballot and basically a hand counted paper ballot at the local station.
00:05:45.540 That I think is going to be the ultimate solution. The voter rolls are just the first start of it.
00:05:49.980 And the voter rolls are ongoing throughout the entire year, whereas our elections just happen on that hopefully one day instead of like in California for an entire month.
00:05:59.660 Yeah, I want to ask who you thought of that Los Angeles election, because it seemed to me, look, I'm not a mathematician, but it seemed to me that these late arriving ballots defied mathematical probability when they went 80 percent for the candidate who was on election night was running third and a poor third.
00:06:17.860 She even conceded, and then suddenly there's, in the days afterwards, there's a spurt of thousands of new ballots, and there's two Democrats in the race. Remember, they have this jungle primary system in which any candidate of any party runs in one election, so you have multiple Democrats.
00:06:36.980 In this case, I think you had also had multiple Republicans, but one principal Republican.
00:06:43.220 Then you see this influx of ballots that defy mathematical probability.
00:06:49.520 But we both know nothing will be done about that, will it?
00:06:53.580 Well, I mean, the people keep on waking up and seeing it.
00:06:56.540 I think that where we started in 2020, especially in Florida, when we said that the voter or the elections were rigged here, they kind of laughed it off.
00:07:06.060 But after Cary Lake and the Los Angeles election you're talking about, more and more people are realizing that the game is fixed.
00:07:15.500 And especially with these late count votes, that's the most obvious, where they just count until they get the right count and then the election's called.
00:07:23.000 But that's the whole thing.
00:07:24.320 Like we call it that F curve that is famous for the 2020 election that Biden had 80 million votes come out of just nowhere at the last minute.
00:07:32.960 And as you said, the grand majority of the last remaining votes were all for Biden.
00:07:37.860 If you do anything in math or statistics, they usually can – that's how they do typical polling is they can figure out like where the election is going by basically doing sample sizes.
00:07:49.080 And those samples stay pretty close to one another.
00:07:51.880 It's very strange and absolutely suspicious when you see a large number of votes towards one candidate come all in at the last minute.
00:07:59.360 It doesn't make any logical sense.
00:08:01.580 If you really want to see a Democrat or a liberal go out of their mind, suggest to them that the computerized voting machines are less than perfect, that they're insecure, that they can be hacked, that the numbers can be manipulated.
00:08:20.040 I've seen online, as you have, and sometimes in person, overwhelming evidence of it.
00:08:26.120 But once again, if you have the audacity to say that in public, you'll find yourself very quickly canceled.
00:08:34.820 You'll find yourself, like me, no longer allowed to be on Facebook, no longer allowed to be on Instagram, no longer allowed to be on YouTube.
00:08:43.640 They take your voice if you merely ask questions.
00:08:47.820 But address for us, if you will, your view of these electronic voting machines and the level of security.
00:08:54.640 The biggest thing is, is anything that's digital can be fabricated.
00:08:58.920 It's essentially like why you go buy a house.
00:09:02.160 You have to show up and actually sign your documents in person with a notary.
00:09:08.000 You can imagine that as soon as you walked out of that building, if it was a digitized contract, they could change anything they want, including the interest rate or whatever.
00:09:14.840 That's why we as a normal civil society have been using paper documentation with signatures and witnesses for centuries as the actual physical presence of you basically being there and voting.
00:09:30.200 Anything can be happening with these voter machines.
00:09:32.540 They can change who's voting.
00:09:34.500 They can change as many people as they want.
00:09:36.540 They can change the results at the last minute.
00:09:38.300 They can actually make it as much as an audit proof deal as possible, because when you're looking through the digital records, it will appear that those ballots are there.
00:09:48.000 We've even had situations in Georgia where they went through and they found duplicated images and fabricated images where the the ovals were filled in and pressed in for for different candidates.
00:10:00.520 and unless you're looking at a piece of paper when you're physically holding a piece of paper
00:10:05.400 you could probably get the sense that something's wrong especially if you see like a flat oval
00:10:09.520 it looks more like something printed at but whenever a human touches a piece of paper there's
00:10:14.640 usually an imprint when they're physically filling in an oval so it's just much like your fingerprint
00:10:20.000 that's why it's very hard to cheat on at scale if they tried to basically have a hand counted paper
00:10:26.940 ballot um that that would put that all to rest because at the local level you might hear every
00:10:32.240 small small races where they still do that and just like they did back in new york uh tammany
00:10:38.000 hall that's much famous for that but it would go a long way to stopping people stealing a governor's
00:10:43.720 race a senator's race a presidency things like that you can you can cheat at scale now when it's
00:10:49.600 all digital uh you're exactly right i remember a couple years ago when i went to vote the person
00:10:56.620 in line in front of me, let's call him
00:10:58.520 John Smith,
00:10:59.940 presented photo ID,
00:11:02.620 driver's license,
00:11:04.160 and stated his address
00:11:06.320 and the clerk behind the desk
00:11:08.620 who's, you know, a day worker
00:11:10.300 said, oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Smith, you voted
00:11:12.640 this morning. He said, no, I
00:11:14.680 haven't. He said, yes, you definitely voted
00:11:16.600 this morning. And he says,
00:11:18.320 let me ask you a question. Is there also
00:11:20.300 an Alma Smith at the
00:11:22.180 same, registered at the same dress as I am?
00:11:25.120 She looked at the voter rolls
00:11:26.420 And she said, yes, she voted also.
00:11:29.620 He said, well, that's my mother.
00:11:31.060 She's been dead for 15 years.
00:11:32.740 So she could not possibly vote.
00:11:34.720 In the end, they let him cast a provisional ballot.
00:11:38.020 Who knows whatever happened to it?
00:11:39.480 I doubt it was counted.
00:11:41.520 I got a text from a woman after yesterday's show who sent me a video of she and others presenting 43,000 affidavits from people in Arizona,
00:11:53.900 all of whom had gone to vote
00:11:55.940 all of whom had shown up at a polling place
00:11:58.040 all of whom had been told
00:11:59.560 they had already voted
00:12:01.360 in this case the governor
00:12:04.020 Kemp rather than accept this
00:12:06.100 slipped out the back door of the building
00:12:07.980 so this is an enormous
00:12:10.340 ongoing problem
00:12:11.620 and I'm not optimistic
00:12:14.460 about 2026
00:12:15.620 I wish I was
00:12:16.620 but as you correctly point out
00:12:19.020 although I think we've identified the problems
00:12:21.180 the problems don't seem to have been fixed
00:12:24.660 Federalizing our elections is not the answer.
00:12:27.320 It's interesting. 0.98
00:12:27.860 That's what the Democrats wanted to do.
00:12:29.580 And House Bill 1, Senate Bill 1, they wanted to federalize the elections.
00:12:33.880 I still think it's best that states regulate their own elections.
00:12:38.760 But the idea that Florida is the gold standard of elections, as the governor told us, if you live in Broward County, that's a pretty laughable statement.
00:12:49.860 Yeah.
00:12:50.980 Yes, it is.
00:12:51.840 Yeah, I mean, that's probably the biggest thing, especially when it's digital.
00:12:55.660 You can imagine, like as we watch anything from stock trading or anything else, that information is instantly available anywhere in the world.
00:13:03.280 So they could steal anything from a sheriff's race all the way up to the presidency, and they don't even need to be in the country because they could be watching it from a dashboard thousands of miles away and manipulating our final results.
00:13:16.980 And that's what's so infuriating about all of it, because essentially you would think that our local officials and especially our parties would want to support our local people.
00:13:28.620 But it seems like the internationalists, the globalists have basically just bought them out because they don't have any.
00:13:35.240 We've been pushed back ever since the very beginning, trying to fix stuff in Florida as well as other states to get any meaningful change.
00:13:43.440 We've had a couple of small things cleaning things up here and there.
00:13:46.600 But again, the biggest thing I see is the fraud that's with the mail-in ballots and the machines.
00:13:52.220 I've taken the view that they use the machines to determine the results.
00:13:58.660 Then they determine based on that how many votes they need.
00:14:01.740 Then they just create those ballots based on names on the voter rolls of people who either never really existed, no longer exist, or have moved out of state or passed away.
00:14:14.820 I think that's exactly the game that's being played.
00:14:17.360 So you can't point to any one piece of this.
00:14:20.300 It's not just the voter rolls.
00:14:21.860 It's not just the mail-in ballots.
00:14:23.580 It's not just the absentees.
00:14:25.280 It's not just the machines.
00:14:26.980 It's all of those things.
00:14:28.540 It seems to me that they all need to be fixed.
00:14:31.340 Folks, if you're just tuning in, we're talking to Chris Jersky with the People's Audit, and we're talking about whether the 2026 elections can be free, fair, and honest. Chris has done amazing work here in the sunshine state of Florida to try to work for clean, fair, honest elections.
00:14:49.540 Now he's working with Eagle AI, a firm, and building a system called ELI that currently monitors the elections in 46 states and the District of Columbia.
00:15:00.480 Chris, tell us about ELI and what you're doing there.
00:15:04.560 Yeah, I'm really excited about ELI because ELI is probably the first of its kind that will follow NIVRA, which is the National Voter Registration Act of 1993, to the T.
00:15:17.420 It's really the only federally backed compliance tool that we have to watch the voter rolls.
00:15:22.080 And the main reason for that is because we're checking to see if people have moved, if they've died, or if they've registered in another state.
00:15:30.180 And we also give that information to both the local county officials as well as the citizens for free.
00:15:36.780 We do ask for donations to help us out with voter rolls.
00:15:39.580 Voter rolls are quite expensive in some states, like in the case of Alabama, with $40,000 just to ask for one instance of a voter roll.
00:15:46.600 But that system is basically probably just a complete game changer where you can click on a voter and you can immediately see now where they've moved to.
00:15:57.360 We even have property data to see if they've now deeded a house in that new state.
00:16:03.900 So you have proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that this person has been moved and needs to be removed from the voter rolls.
00:16:09.660 It's really it's quite simple, but it's really quite brilliant.
00:16:12.400 And all you're doing here is taking the list of known individuals who have moved, registered in another state and so on, and comparing it to the voter rolls.
00:16:20.140 Of course, they make it as expensive as possible.
00:16:23.040 Chris, if people want to find you and support your work, where can they go?
00:16:27.600 The easiest thing to do is come to our website at the peoplesaudit.org.
00:16:30.780 That's going to be the-peoples-audit.org.
00:16:35.220 And there they'll find links to my Substack, my Telegram and X, as well as we'll put some links out there to start inviting people to LE.
00:16:43.360 LE right now is invitation only, but we're basically up to about 500 members from various states.
00:16:50.440 It's just a lot of training to go into that system right away.
00:16:53.420 So we want to make sure people get their hands held and know what to do when they're into that data because it could be overwhelming.
00:16:58.780 All right. So here's the man with the plan, Chris Jersky, who's joined us. And I think we did a pretty good job here today outlining the need for reform. It's still hard for me to believe that six years after the fact, six years after what I think was quite obviously the discrepancies, the anomalies, the outright fraud in the 2020 election, we're still arguing about this.
00:17:27.900 But as you correctly point out, both parties seem to be in on it, at least in some states, and there's nobody else raising these questions. That's why it's up to citizens like Chris Jersky and the People's Audit.