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00:02:00.920 now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone and once again tonight it's jake

00:02:08.980 novak and michael cohen in for roger stone yep no roger stone tonight you're stuck with jake

00:02:14.320 novak and me and roger stone actually has a good excuse he didn't leave work early i i hate to make

00:02:19.860 a joke about this off the top because this is an egregious story it was something that angered both

00:02:24.740 michael and me we both i mean this is just outrageous this exclusive story now it's out

00:02:30.340 on other publications but you got to give credit to the wall street journal for coming up for this

00:02:34.540 this information that hair that terrible crash on the runway where a truck collided with an air

00:02:41.000 canada jet uh at la guardia airport in late march of this year it now turns out according to the

00:02:48.400 faa that two air traffic controllers on what was a busier night than usual left work an hour early

00:02:56.100 i want to remind everyone and how frightening this was because it absolutely scared the pants off

00:03:01.400 the actual air traffic controllers who stayed at work.

00:03:04.220 This is what it sounded like that night.

00:03:05.740 Remember this?

00:03:06.860 Frontier 4195 to stop there, please.

00:03:10.480 Stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:03:11.300 Truck one, stop, stop, stop.

00:03:13.500 Stop truck one, stop.

00:03:15.540 Stop truck one, stop.

00:03:19.160 Don't wait to go around.

00:03:20.660 Runway heading 2000.

00:03:22.160 Jet 646.

00:03:25.340 Jet 646, I see you collide with the vehicle.

00:03:27.320 I just hold position.

00:03:28.040 I know you can't move.

00:03:29.540 Yeah, I mean, a scary, scary moment.

00:03:31.400 Well, it's scary, especially because how many times a year do you fly out of LaGuardia?

00:03:36.460 I mean, that's my preferred place because it's so close to where I live, right?

00:03:41.180 If I want to go to JFK, it's at least an hour because of traffic on the Van Wick.

00:03:46.420 I'll come pick you up.

00:03:47.380 All right.

00:03:47.640 I'll take you.

00:03:48.100 Deal.

00:03:48.660 Listen, I have a very nice, I'll sing a few songs for you.

00:03:51.280 I have some candy bars in the backseat.

00:03:52.860 Deal.

00:03:53.040 I actually don't drive for Uber, but I have a kind of car that is almost everyone.

00:03:58.180 And I drive a Camry Hybrid, relatively new.

00:04:02.360 And every other Camry Hybrid on the road is an Uber in New York.

00:04:05.180 And everyone assumes I'm an Uber.

00:04:06.480 But I should take advantage of that.

00:04:08.140 You probably should.

00:04:09.200 Yeah, and drive closer to the curb.

00:04:10.620 But we could spend hours making fun of whether you're Camry or the length of time it takes to get to JFK from Manhattan.

00:04:20.980 But this is not a joke.

00:04:22.220 You're talking about LaGuardia Airport, where two, not one, but two, leave an hour early.

00:04:29.480 What could be so vital that you have to leave an hour and leave a post as traffic controller?

00:04:35.840 On a busy night.

00:04:36.800 Now, you might remember when this crash occurred.

00:04:39.680 And by the way, it really upset our owner operator, John Katsimatidis, here at WABC because, you know, he's an aviation guy.

00:04:45.020 I remember he was very upset about this.

00:04:47.080 and you might remember the general discussion after this accident was like well LaGuardia is

00:04:51.760 a rough airport and things happen and it's terrible and we got to do something about

00:04:55.820 no we don't we just need people to stay on the freaking job right I mean it is so bad Jake

00:05:01.080 that they actually have a name for individuals who leave an hour early and they use the excuse 0.52

00:05:08.380 oh we're working so many hours I think they call it what is it a shove or something like that

00:05:13.580 I can tell you this.

00:05:16.080 Yeah, it's called an early shove.

00:05:18.100 And that's where they turn around and they actually claim that because they're working so many hours and they don't care about staffing shortages, it is, as it was described in the Wall Street Journal, it is time card fraud.

00:05:33.480 Worse than time card fraud, they're putting our lives in jeopardy.

00:05:39.300 Now, here's the most even more egregious part about this.

00:05:42.920 this seems to me like an open and shut case these two guys left work i don't know if there's two

00:05:47.800 men we don't know that actually we don't know their sex let's two people left work early we

00:05:52.640 had this terrible crash and they left work early on a busier night you know maybe on a quiet night

00:05:56.260 maybe we'll give them a pass but this was not a quiet night and you know what you can't fire them

00:06:01.020 that easily they're in here here is the final line of the story the national air traffic controllers

00:06:06.780 association says is discussing the firing with the faa leadership i mean remember during his first

00:06:12.280 term, President Trump was talking about how you can't fire federal workers. Look, this is what

00:06:17.240 leads to massive cuts of people who maybe shouldn't be fired. There are probably some good federal

00:06:21.220 workers who did lose their job in the whole doge thing. But you know what? That's what happens when

00:06:26.380 you're in these kinds of unions and you have to protect the worst of you. But why are we even at

00:06:30.780 this point in time talking about whether this person is good, this person is bad? The fact that

00:06:36.280 these two people they do not represent the entire whole they are not the denominator for all traffic

00:06:43.120 control and it bothered me too when i saw transportation secretary sean duffy put out a

00:06:49.700 statement about them that the vast majority of traffic controllers are great patriots i'm not

00:06:55.660 talking about all of the great patriot traffic controllers who show up to work who complete

00:07:02.320 their shift i'm talking about these two specific we don't have to turn around and say well these

00:07:08.920 folks are no good these folks are good let's just talk about the two that decided to early shove

00:07:15.960 that ended up being part of the reason i'm not saying it's the full reason but let's just say

00:07:22.300 that they are part of the reason that there was a crash yeah let me just say two words to the people

00:07:27.660 who do this kind of stuff. Nice try. Just because, you know, I'm saying that there are two of you

00:07:33.020 who were poor workers and should be fired. Don't come back with me and say like, well, you're

00:07:37.960 against all air traffic controllers. No, I'm not. Nice try, buddy. Nice try. This is what these

00:07:43.200 unions do. They protect the worst among them. This is like what happens with our teachers in

00:07:47.600 our schools. You can't fire these teachers. Even when they assault a child, they go to what's known

00:07:51.600 as their rubber room and they sit there and they work on their private business on a laptop all

00:07:55.880 day and when you say we got to fire these bad teachers they come back at you with the are you

00:08:00.320 saying all teachers are bad nice try now who do you think you're talking to you're talking to

00:08:04.460 michael cohen and jake novak we've been around the block a few times and we know what you're

00:08:08.720 trying to do don't play that game with us get rid of these two guys or gals whoever they are

00:08:13.760 get rid of them no one is saying you're all bad and just move on don't play this collective oh

00:08:20.120 you're against all of us game and i mean and this is just yet one every single day you wake up and

00:08:28.520 you turn on the television you pick up the newspaper and it's one issue after another 0.99

00:08:34.920 whether it's mayor moron mondani doing something stupid again as we start to get closer and closer 0.99

00:08:42.100 to the 25th anniversary of the 9-11 terrorist attack here in America, 1.00

00:08:48.940 or whether you're starting to talk about Soros.

00:08:52.460 We never get a break.

00:08:56.660 We don't get to early shove like these individuals over there at LaGuardia Airport.

00:09:02.000 When I first got involved in TV news and radio news,

00:09:05.480 my sister, who knows me very, very well, said something very funny about me.

00:09:08.440 She said, like, this is a great job for you,

00:09:10.340 because basically unless there's like the biggest breaking story of all time and i and i've been

00:09:14.580 on some breaking stories where i've had to stay longer i was here the morning the iran war started

00:09:18.680 that was my show saturday morning at february 28th yeah and and i stayed here through the early

00:09:23.820 afternoon but she just said this is great for you because you know you can't you you're gonna have

00:09:28.260 you're very good at showing up jake she would say so you'll show up on time you'll be good at that

00:09:31.680 and then you know when you're gonna leave no matter what happens unless it's something really

00:09:34.760 really unusual so look i can't leave this show early i'm not gonna leave michael alone doing

00:09:39.360 doing the show or well we're not going to both leave before we hit 9 p.m right i mean look if

00:09:44.420 you left i would just take the show yeah if if you left all right or i left then you would just

00:09:49.400 take the show but imagine both of us yeah so what people are going to now start listening to

00:09:53.820 what nothing i mean and you know it's just incredible look this is the issue here with

00:10:00.420 and you know who by the way you know who warned against federal worker unions the person who said

00:10:06.020 listen, if you unionize the federal workers, you're going to have a situation where they hold

00:10:10.140 the whole government hostage, where they hold our budget hostage, where they don't take

00:10:14.080 accountability for running the government. You know who warned against it and kept it illegal

00:10:18.700 for quite some time? None other than that great right winger, that crazy right wing fascist, 0.99

00:10:27.060 Franklin Delano Roosevelt. FDR made it, even though he created all those federal jobs in the 0.83

00:10:32.040 first place he knew oh my god if these people unionize we'll have a serious problem in this

00:10:36.500 country and it wasn't until jfk when jfk was pressured into by union groups that it was allowed

00:10:42.460 the federal workers were allowed to unionize they should not be unionized in my opinion this is not

00:10:46.560 about this it just takes away accountability unions and accountability don't go together they

00:10:50.840 just don't they don't and um federal the fact that we've had federal workers unionized in this

00:10:55.840 country for over 60 years is a huge reason for our budget deficit and and debt and it's a huge

00:11:00.600 reason for this kind of crap and again don't pull the oh jake is saying all government workers are

00:11:05.840 bad yeah don't try don't say that don't try that don't say because it's not true these two happen 0.99

00:11:10.840 to be bad and they need to be held accountable me personally i happen to be for the unions i believe

00:11:16.800 in the unions i believe unions play a very important role in america always have and i think

00:11:21.240 they always will these two should not get a pass simply because you hold the union card it's just

00:11:26.940 that simple i mean again this isn't about the union this isn't about all air traffic controllers

00:11:33.960 this is this is about two individuals that elected to leave an important post imagine your doctor

00:11:42.000 your surgeon you're laying there on the table and the doctor and the anesthesiologist the surgeon

00:11:48.700 and the anesthesiologist decide that they want to take off an hour early what are they going to tell

00:11:54.220 the nurse do me a favor sew up i have i have a prediction michael and for everyone listening

00:11:59.500 it will take years to remove these people from their jobs it will take years they they probably

00:12:05.400 won't work air traffic ever again they'll be in a virtual rubber room for a long time we'll be

00:12:10.760 paying their salaries they're going to get their benefits just like if you remember that terrible

00:12:15.280 subway crash in los angeles about 15 16 years ago the guy was on his phone the conductor was on his

00:12:21.000 phone wasn't paying attention killed some people and he ended up saying well you know i'm trans i'm

00:12:26.340 going through trans surgery or trans treatment that's why i mean he it took a very long time

00:12:31.180 to get him well did you see the other day they showed that there was a train conductor who

00:12:35.780 actually fell asleep while the train i mean for god's sakes if you're a fairy guy fell asleep

00:12:40.520 remember that if you are tired if you're tired right let somebody know maybe don't put yourself

00:12:47.640 into a position where you could hurt somebody else maybe if in fact that i don't know there

00:12:54.260 was accountability or better accountability maybe then that we wouldn't have this and have to deal

00:12:59.760 with this every single day yeah and let me tell the people in the unions themselves this is what's

00:13:05.680 hurting you you're you're in a union because you're worried you're going to be that someone

00:13:09.460 who really doesn't deserve to be fired someone who really doesn't deserve to be mistreated

00:13:13.440 is going to get mistreated or fired,

00:13:15.720 then stop defending these people who are open and shut case,

00:13:18.720 deserve to be fired, deserve to lose their benefits.

00:13:21.760 It's as simple as that.

00:13:24.900 All right, listen, we've got a lot more to talk about,

00:13:26.580 including a big story that Michael and I talked about last night,

00:13:30.080 Mayor Mamdani deciding to extend his condolences

00:13:32.840 to a meat cleaver murderer.

00:13:35.160 You know, that wasn't just going to go over very well.

00:13:37.860 How would you like to be the family

00:13:39.100 of one of those meat cleaver murderers' victims?

00:13:41.180 Well, they have spoken out.

00:13:42.460 We're going to tell you what they had to say.

00:13:44.780 We also have some good news.

00:13:46.120 At the end of this hour, you know, the news business's biggest bias is the bias in favor of bad news, divisive news.

00:13:52.860 They don't even know how to do good news stories.

00:13:55.340 Michael and I do know how to do a good news story.

00:13:57.720 You're going to really like this story that we end up with.

00:13:59.740 It's about life and death, and you should wait for that.

00:14:01.840 It's Jake Novak and Michael Cohen on The Stone Zone.

00:14:03.860 And for Roger Stone, we're going to be right back.

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00:14:26.660 Roger Stone was persecuted.

00:14:27.880 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.

00:14:30.960 Now, get in the zone.

00:14:32.780 It's The Stone Zone.

00:14:34.780 Here's Roger Stone.

00:14:36.360 And it's Jake Novak and Michael Cohen in for Roger Stone this week.

00:14:40.400 Last night, we talked about something that one of the many egregious things that this mayor does, and we called him on it.

00:14:48.080 This was this decision he made over the weekend to give his condolences to the family of a meat cleaver murderer who died in Rikers.

00:14:56.740 Now, we made it clear, Michael Cohen, that we weren't saying he should just overlook a death of an inmate.

00:15:01.120 He can make a phone call to the warden.

00:15:02.840 But to publicly say I have condolences for this guy, not mention that he killed a couple of people, surprisingly, the victim's families are upset about this.

00:15:11.940 Yes, and this animal, there's no other way to describe him.

00:15:15.720 This animal, Clarence Woodward, goes into a laundromat.

00:15:21.460 Where there are rich people.

00:15:22.560 Right, because, I mean, what does the guy want to do?

00:15:24.560 He wants to wash his underwear and socks and t-shirt, right, because he needs it for work?

00:15:29.240 jose miranda a decent man a father right he's children the wife the whole bit 45 year old

00:15:37.560 father beloved son ends up going into a laundromat bad timing only to be cleavered to death by this 0.98

00:15:46.980 animal who now is i don't know being eulogized by our mayor moron mandani you know there are a lot 0.96

00:15:54.800 of lessons to be learned from this incident so we we hammered home the whole thing about how 0.95

00:15:59.580 this is his way of undermining the whole prison system we talked about that last night but i want

00:16:03.680 to talk about something that's even more important than that because it's actually something that

00:16:07.460 affects the whole country and it's been affecting it for a long time minorities and poor people in

00:16:13.500 america are 12 that's right 12 times more likely to be the victims of violent crimes 12 times so

00:16:21.540 when somebody commits a crime and someone is arrested for it it's not something that's uh

00:16:27.700 helping the rich feel better he didn't go into park avenue he went into a laundromat you know

00:16:32.820 in case you didn't notice people who go to laundromats they're not necessarily on the

00:16:36.960 higher end of the economic scale right okay they're they're struggling probably okay and

00:16:43.300 we all we hear about is how minority men for example black men are five times more likely 0.89

00:16:48.340 to get arrested what kind of maniac cares more about that than the 12 times more likely to get 0.98

00:16:53.240 killed robbed raped mugged whatever it is that minorities are this is you need to understand

00:16:59.360 this think about the victims a lot of people think like well we open up the jails and we do all this 0.87

00:17:03.760 kind of stuff and pull the police off that's really going to frighten the rich white guy i don't like

00:17:07.740 no it's not it's not it's just going to make poverty worse the people who are already struggling

00:17:12.940 worse this is this is hose this is jose miranda a 45 year old barber who's in a laundromat okay

00:17:18.880 he's not a park avenue rich guy his mother very very upset speaking out to the new york post

00:17:23.700 saying it's terrible that the mayor uh expressed his condolences he had a younger brother too

00:17:28.000 who was saying this you know it's amazing like we don't you know listen i mean the lack of respect

00:17:33.400 to the victims and the lack of respect to the perpetual victims of crime who are almost always

00:17:38.240 poor people is just beyond acceptable to me yeah it's it's i don't even know if the word is respect

00:17:44.080 for them it's decency for god's sakes mayor right be the mayor for all people not for the 0.88

00:17:52.080 me cleaver moron right just be the mayor for all the people this is a family that's grieving 0.95

00:17:59.780 and you're turning around and i again you're eulogizing the the i don't know the me cleaver 0.99

00:18:07.040 murderer i i don't i truly don't get can you do something stupider can you do something more 0.98

00:18:13.500 divisive or are you actually doing it on purpose you know sometimes i wonder i wonder whether or 0.98

00:18:19.860 not that mondani is doing this on purpose and i agree with you there's a there's a bigger picture

00:18:26.960 here that he's trying to effectuate this is not necessarily about this me cleaver murderer it's

00:18:35.280 not about those that ended up dying i think i i think you're right i think this is about

00:18:40.480 their desire this democratic socialist agenda of ridding at least let's start with new york

00:18:48.760 and then see whether or not we can get this to catch on to rid the print of um rid america of

00:18:56.000 all prisons you know i'll tell our listeners something they may not know michael cohen and i

00:19:00.920 spent uh our teen and adolescent years not that far away from each other i could have walked to

00:19:05.960 his house but we lived in very different neighborhoods i lived in far rockaway he was

00:19:10.960 he was on the better side of the track so let's put it that way when i moved to far rockaway

00:19:14.900 queens in 1981 i was on a very mixed block black white irish jewish italian and guess what everyone

00:19:21.460 was very in favor of law and order you better believe it this lie that law and order is only

00:19:27.100 helping the rich that's just what it is

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00:21:00.060 eastern time it's jake novak and michael cohen in for roger stone this week and i want to say this

00:21:06.020 on record i don't want to speak for michael he'll speak for himself look i am in favor of all the

00:21:11.120 established vaccinations for measles bumps polio please get those vaccinations you want to spread

00:21:16.760 them out a little whatever do what you want don't forget about rubella rubella yeah poor rubella

00:21:20.600 don't forget about rubella rubella don't forget about her rubella is rubella is great yeah well

00:21:26.720 actually it's really not great it's not great you don't want rubella no it's not but you know who

00:21:30.520 has done incredible damage to the reputation of vacu vaccinations and the democrats the democrats

00:21:37.940 jake they have it's not it's not it's not rfk jr it's the democrats who continue to push these

00:21:43.980 false narratives and the latest one is this josh shapiro who's supposed to be one of the good

00:21:49.580 democrats are one of the more moderate ones here's josh shapiro just the other day

00:21:54.560 not only saying an a non-true an untrue thing but basically wagging his finger and scolding

00:22:02.760 everybody including rfk jr listen to this late as i've been sitting out in the parking lot talking

00:22:08.040 to secretary kennedy who reached out to me this morning and while i appreciate his willingness to

00:22:16.120 offer staff to assist us. We think we're able to manage this through the Department of Health.

00:22:21.400 I was very, very blunt with him, and I made very clear that his actions and the rhetoric that's

00:22:30.960 coming from this administration are having a negative impact on communities across America,

00:22:38.240 particularly right here in Pennsylvania. Lie. Now, Josh Shapiro was talking about two people

00:22:45.700 that he claimed died of measles

00:22:47.420 because they weren't vaccinated.

00:22:48.820 It turns out, no, they didn't.

00:22:51.840 The first death was an infant, sadly,

00:22:54.440 died right at childbirth,

00:22:55.980 well before you're scheduled to get,

00:22:58.420 you don't get the measles vaccination

00:22:59.580 until you're one.

00:23:00.700 So lie number one.

00:23:02.380 Second is, and it was a very elderly person who died,

00:23:06.020 and right now the Department of Health in Pennsylvania

00:23:08.580 is not even classifying that as a measles death either.

00:23:11.900 This is the kind of stuff that creates vaccine

00:23:14.780 questioning in people they say wait a minute why are you lying so much why are you browbeating us

00:23:19.940 you must be using vaccinations just as a political tool i think i'll skip my shots

00:23:24.160 it's josh shapiro's fault not rfk jr's fault and i'm sticking to that position well look i like you

00:23:30.780 believe in vaccinations i am also not opposed to what trump has been calling the over vaccination

00:23:39.100 vaccination in one specific dose. Let's use the European model, which is to spread it out a little

00:23:46.500 more instead of, as Trump would turn around and say, he's been saying, by the way, it's not a new

00:23:51.440 thought for him. He's been saying the same thing forever. Why would you give, and he, of course,

00:23:56.380 you know, he somewhat over-exaggerates, says 10 pounds worth of liquid into a five pound body.

00:24:04.880 It doesn't work.

00:24:06.520 He's not wrong.

00:24:08.320 It doesn't work.

00:24:09.260 It's not 10 pounds. 0.97

00:24:10.460 But why not do what the Europeans do, which is to spread it out over time? 0.89

00:24:15.140 But the real culprit here, the real culprit is Dr. Anthony Fauci. 0.80

00:24:21.620 There are answers that the American people still are waiting for.

00:24:26.260 I'm still waiting for it.

00:24:27.780 I did what all responsible people were told to do.

00:24:31.920 I rolled up my sleeve.

00:24:33.080 I got my wife to roll up her sleeve, my children, and we all took the vaccination.

00:24:38.340 Not one, not two, three.

00:24:40.600 Three.

00:24:40.940 I want to know what's in my body.

00:24:42.720 I want to know what he knows.

00:24:44.680 That's it.

00:24:45.200 I'm not asking for you to make it up.

00:24:47.660 Just tell me the truth.

00:24:49.280 I believe that the American people have a right.

00:24:51.700 And when you take 111 times the fifth and you refuse to give the info, well, now couple that with Josh Shapiro, and now you know why people are confused.

00:25:01.440 You know, the the lack of clarity, the lack of sunshine on all of this stuff is so, so toxic.

00:25:09.740 I'll tell you a little story about myself. So I started out in local news.

00:25:12.620 And when I say I started out in local news, I mean, it was really local.

00:25:15.200 I was a producer. My first job was producing in Bangor, Maine.

00:25:18.040 OK, very small town. Then I went to Decatur, Illinois.

00:25:21.240 Let's just say that the sales departments at those television stations had a challenging job.

00:25:26.260 So we ran a lot of what you call PSAs, public service announcements that the government would send us.

00:25:30.740 one of them when i was in decatur this is 1995 one of them that was in decatur was a little

00:25:35.520 jingle that we ran so much as in my head it was 11 shots by two mom you gotta get 11 shots for

00:25:40.660 your kid by the time they're two over and over we played that psa it's called the fouchy ouchy

00:25:45.040 yeah well now it's something like 37 shots by two now maybe that's necessary maybe it is necessary

00:25:52.700 to get to go from 11 to 37 yeah you should trademark now maybe maybe it absolutely is let

00:25:59.120 me ask you a question mr and mrs america have we ever been clearly has ever been clearly explained

00:26:05.800 to us why it went from 11 vaccines before two to 37 if it's if it's justified then tell us if it

00:26:12.740 isn't then you know that's obviously not right but if it's justified what are you so afraid of

00:26:17.420 why are you unable to explain to the american people why you've tripled the number of shots

00:26:21.960 just in my short lifetime uh not even half of my short lifetime uh and they haven't explained

00:26:28.980 this to us there is no absolute clarity there's no transparency here fauci is the greatest i mean

00:26:35.840 the greatest example of lack of transparency takes the fifth 111 times you know if you don't

00:26:41.340 give people transparency you give license to the conspiracy theorist you give license to the

00:26:45.720 paranoia and doctors and the medical field should know very well from the times of hundreds of years

00:26:51.760 ago when they were uh you know there was a real riot here in new york city in the 18th century

00:26:56.260 because one of the first medical schools was columbia medical school back when it was down

00:26:59.180 by where the world trade center i remember i was a young child at that point it was a riot so when

00:27:03.640 they found out that there were medical students doing surgeries and doing like dissections of

00:27:08.220 cadavers there was actually a mob came and beat everybody up because they weren't told that this

00:27:13.820 was being done for for positive reasons and they didn't kill anyone to do it these were already

00:27:17.720 people who had who had passed away you have to have transparency especially in the medical field

00:27:22.820 if you want to stop this kind of stuff.

00:27:25.120 And not only do they not have transparency,

00:27:27.840 but they wag our fingers at us.

00:27:29.200 This Josh Shapiro, what a disgusting thing to do

00:27:31.260 to use the deaths of two people,

00:27:33.300 one very old, one very young,

00:27:34.660 as a political bludgeon and to get on TV

00:27:37.440 and stick his chest out and say,

00:27:39.200 I was very blunt with R.K. Jr.

00:27:41.680 Oh, good for you. 1.00

00:27:42.960 Meanwhile, you're a liar 1.00

00:27:44.020 and you've just tried to politically profit 1.00

00:27:46.080 off the death of two people. 1.00

00:27:47.640 You're disgusting, Josh Shapiro. 1.00

00:27:49.280 You should go away. 1.00

00:27:50.300 You should go away.

00:27:50.920 You know, there comes a point in time, again, that they have an obligation, whether it's

00:27:58.700 Josh Shapiro, whether it's Dr. Fauci, they have an obligation, whether it's RFK, they

00:28:05.260 have an obligation to the American people to tell us the truth.

00:28:09.980 We have a right to know what we're putting in our body.

00:28:13.180 We have a right to know what sort of future ramifications that we may end up suffering.

00:28:19.300 And then it becomes our decision whether we want to do it.

00:28:24.300 Instead, they're talking, well, you know, you need to do it in order to create herd immunity.

00:28:27.980 You need to do it in order to protect the people who are sitting next to you, your family members, the elder people from your community, people, your colleagues, your next-door neighbors.

00:28:38.040 They put that guilt trip on you within which to convince you that you need to do it.

00:28:43.240 And again, I'm okay with the fact that I took the vaccination for COVID.

00:28:49.300 I have comorbidities, all right?

00:28:52.020 I have comorbidities that if I had contracted COVID, that there's a better than likely chance I wouldn't be sitting here next to you, all right?

00:29:01.180 It's just unfortunate.

00:29:02.740 It is what it is. 0.56

00:29:03.960 So I am thankful that President Trump, through Operation Warp Speed, ended up getting this vaccination that they ended up putting this MNNR together as quickly as they did. 0.56

00:29:19.300 So I am extremely thankful. Now, hindsight being 2020, I'd still would like to know what it is, and I'd like to know what potential complications that I could end up suffering from. So in that way, if I am suffering, maybe then it gives me the ability within which to treat it easier.

00:29:38.400 you know this is something where we differ i um i think it was a huge mistake to call it a vaccine

00:29:44.320 i think technically you could argue one way or the other on that i i don't have a problem with

00:29:48.520 someone who wants to say we should call it a vaccine i'm just talking from a public relations

00:29:52.120 point of view i think they should have called it a treatment i think they should call whatever a

00:29:55.600 prophylactic whatever they wanted to call it but what bothers me as someone who wants people to

00:30:00.180 get the measles and the polio and the other vaccines is the damage they've done to the

00:30:04.940 vaccines that we've known for hundreds of years are necessary and positive they have done

00:30:09.060 irreparable damage to them you know this is something i covered back at fox news when i

00:30:14.120 was at fox news in the early in the mid 2000 2007 2010 we were going up against on my shows

00:30:20.160 against jenny mccarthy the great scientist and all these other people who were against all

00:30:24.260 vaccines not the jenny mccarthy from beverly hills 90210 uh no uh that's gene jenny garth

00:30:29.620 Oh, same thing. Whatever. Yeah. They look the same to me. Yeah. Anyway. And, you know, I have to tell you that before COVID hit, a corner had been turned on vaccines in this country.

00:30:41.940 Actually, there really was. It was starting to get more. People were starting to to stop believing some of the some of the rumors about it.

00:30:49.580 But this COVID calling it a COVID vaccine. And I know you just you disagree with me on that, Michael, and you certainly have a right to.

00:30:54.240 i think it was a mistake to call it that just from a pr point of view i'm not saying from a

00:30:57.900 scientific point of view because i think that they put all the other legitimate vaccines in a little

00:31:04.360 bit of danger but when we come back we have a very good news story to tell you that involves medicine

00:31:10.100 one that we should all celebrate one that we don't have to use as a political bludgeon and believe me

00:31:14.260 this is a very good news story that you probably didn't hear today because you don't you know

00:31:19.060 because you're basically probably nobody ever tells good stories today i mean when was the

00:31:23.180 last time that you turned on the television or you read on the front page plane successfully

00:31:29.020 lands at LaGuardia airport without getting hit by a truck yeah I not only am I going to give you

00:31:34.220 everyone a really good news story when we come back but I'm going to teach my fellow journalists

00:31:38.260 how to cover a good news story because they clearly don't know how and we have a great story

00:31:43.400 about a business in America branding political correctness and football how can you resist that

00:31:50.440 We'll be right back here on the Stone Zone. It's Jake Novak and Michael Cohen. It's a Thursday night. Stay with us.

00:31:55.640 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:32:02.620 Now, get in the zone. It's the Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.

00:32:08.580 And it's Jake Novak and Michael Cohen in for Roger Stone on the Stone Zone this week.

00:32:12.260 We have two big problems in the news media. Well, we got a lot more than two, but let's just focus on two for now.

00:32:17.000 One is they don't report anything other than their political agenda, their divisive agenda,

00:32:22.820 just a nasty type of bias, even if you're right or left wing.

00:32:27.520 Second is, even when they do find a good news story, they don't know how to cover it.

00:32:31.940 So they basically stay away.

00:32:33.440 So I'm going to give you not only the news of some great news that Americans need to know,

00:32:37.480 but I'm going to explain to the journalists out there how you cover this story.

00:32:42.160 Here's the story.

00:32:42.960 pancreatic cancer is basically the most deadly kind of cancer there might be a rarer form here

00:32:48.680 or there that's more deadly but pancreatic cancer has been for a long time a death sentence my

00:32:53.700 grandmother when i was a senior in high school we found out she had pancreatic cancer she passed

00:32:58.500 away two weeks later it was over for her uh michael cullen you say you have a family member who who

00:33:04.080 suffered from yeah unfortunately approximately a year ago i lost my aunt to pancreatic cancer okay

00:33:10.280 it is incredibly rare to survive with pancreatic cancer.

00:33:14.040 Less than a 5% survival rate.

00:33:15.920 And survival rate means like five years, I think.

00:33:18.220 Yes.

00:33:18.580 So after five years, it's even less than that.

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00:34:11.580 that as of yesterday the food and drug administration has approved a drug that

00:34:16.380 really does seem to make a real difference the drug comes from a company called revolution

00:34:21.060 medicines this is an american company and their drug helps people in late stage late stage pancreatic

00:34:28.700 cancer live on average 13 months that's twice as long as if they're just doing the chemo now listen

00:34:34.320 And those extra six, seven months can make a very big difference for a family,

00:34:38.120 especially if you need to get your affairs in order, whatever.

00:34:40.680 You can all imagine what that is.

00:34:41.960 To me, I see it a little bit different.

00:34:43.820 It's called like RasoniQ is this medication.

00:34:47.220 But here's the interesting part.

00:34:49.020 It's not about the fact that it's going to go from what's generally two months,

00:34:54.640 three months to 13 months, which, again, is a long, long time.

00:34:59.060 It is the beginning to a much better drug.

00:35:03.340 they have to always start somewhere and then where they're going to be able to juice it up

00:35:09.280 so to speak where like with um so many other types of cancers now where they're able to eradicate it

00:35:16.900 um completely this is just the beginning and if they're able to now prolong your life by four times

00:35:25.200 the general time frame well again it's a great beginning it's what we would call a base a base

00:35:32.620 start. Now, news directors, executive producers, newspaper editors, let me give you a little bit

00:35:38.720 of a heads up. This story is dramatic. This is not a boring story. I'm not going to get into

00:35:43.940 the science of the drug. Don't worry. You don't have to do that. This is literally life and death

00:35:48.160 story. If you spent more time in your newspaper and your TV show tonight talking about how

00:35:53.560 President Trump signed a piece of paper to call it Lake America and not Lake Ontario, 1.00

00:35:57.020 you're a moron you have robbed your own viewers of life and death type information you've robbed 1.00

00:36:03.340 yourself of better ratings and you deserve it and here's the other thing that i want to talk 1.00

00:36:07.780 about speaking of deserving it revolutions medicine revolution medicines is a publicly

00:36:12.100 traded company their stock their shares are up 480 from a year ago today i hope i hope we make

00:36:20.580 some billionaires out of this you hear that aoc if you create a drug which is the beginning of a

00:36:25.480 cure for the most deadly cancer i want you to be a billionaire for crying out loud you deserve it

00:36:30.520 you know i'd love to live in the star trek world where everyone just does stuff so that they can

00:36:34.680 for no money apparently that was the whole i'm sorry that's not the way it works

00:36:39.480 milton friedman the greatest economist of all of our lifetimes nobel prize winner said the greatest

00:36:45.240 achievements in human history came from people who were serving a selfish self-interest doesn't

00:36:51.520 mean it's a selfish thing overall we need to reward people yes financially for doing things

00:36:57.860 that help mankind so jake i'm gonna have to disagree with you i think the greatest economist

00:37:01.680 of all time was my father yeah i would say to him hey pop can i have fifty dollars he got twenty

00:37:07.820 dollars what do you need five dollars for i think he was the greatest economist of all time well

00:37:14.240 that's a negotiator i don't know if that's a guy i don't know he sounds like a great negotiator to

00:37:19.020 Well, whenever he was, I still say he was the best economist of all time.

00:37:22.860 Not bad.

00:37:23.720 But, I mean, look, this is exactly why it's okay to have billionaires.

00:37:29.100 You know, if you can prove to me that you can find a billionaire out there

00:37:33.620 that has earned all of his or her money without any positive impact on anyone,

00:37:38.180 without creating something that made other people very, very wealthy.

00:37:41.760 You know, for example, Elon Musk is a trillionaire.

00:37:44.680 He's created a lot of other millionaires and billionaires.

00:37:47.320 And I'm not saying he's a saint.

00:37:48.780 don't get me wrong there's a difference between being a billionaire and being sainted i'm not

00:37:52.260 saying they're the same thing but most of the billionaires out there have at the very least

00:37:57.000 created something that people wanted to buy that made them either happier healthier you know what's

00:38:03.720 interesting nobody ever turns around and says oh i have a problem with so-and-so who's an actor for

00:38:08.800 example right where now today they're worth 700 800 900 million or a basketball player for that

00:38:16.420 and don't don't get me wrong i'm for all of them i'm for anybody who can make a dollar god bless

00:38:21.480 you that's the country that we live in but nobody seems to have an issue with the basketball player

00:38:27.240 right who's worth a billion dollars nobody has an issue with the movie star that makes pretty

00:38:32.780 shitty movies but he's still worth a billion dollars right at some point in time we turn

00:38:38.380 around and we say well yeah but what about the guy or the woman who's actually developing a drug

00:38:45.200 that deals with stage four not stage one two or three stage four the last stage of terminal

00:38:53.720 pancreatic cancer that is now giving you a life expectancy of four times greater yeah and i

00:39:00.740 promise you these research researchers worked very hard probably had a very long hours didn't

00:39:05.880 have the greatest easy social lives the whole thing i'm sorry uh to me this is very very important

00:39:12.420 that we continue to have this incentive it's all about incentive you have to incentivize good

00:39:17.760 behavior you have to de-incentivize bad behavior and socialism and bashing billionaires does the

00:39:24.540 opposite of that now why don't you all listen to this song because we have a very interesting story

00:39:29.080 listen to this another good one you might remember another good story

00:39:32.020 it sounds like a a male acapella group from like yale in 1955 but that's hail to the red

00:40:01.940 Redskins. And this is a I find the story to be hilarious. So as you know, the Washington Redskins

00:40:07.520 in a whole woke mania that came around during the early Biden years, changed their name to the

00:40:12.900 Washington Commanders. I call them the Washington Commies. That's really what they should be called.

00:40:17.140 Terrible name. They took away a brand that was really very valuable. Well, it turns out that

00:40:22.640 the Commanders are now selling a lot of Redskins. And I say that right. Redskins team apparel,

00:40:28.760 because according to the team if they don't sell it they'll lose their copyright trademark on it

00:40:33.400 and someone else will be able to take it why don't you just change the name back already do you know

00:40:38.200 that the family that is associated with the old redskins logo was actually a real person it wasn't

00:40:43.480 just a a made-up ai version of a native american they have been pushing for the return of the name

00:40:49.300 and that logo for years there have been a number of native american tribes that said they had no

00:40:53.440 problem with the redskins and you michael cohen said president trump was really upset he was he

00:40:58.300 was very upset about it. He did not

00:41:00.400 like the idea that they were

00:41:02.240 changing their name. You know, I'll

00:41:04.320 tell you something. He was spot

00:41:06.300 on when it came to this.

00:41:08.440 Spot on. But I

00:41:10.140 just find it funny that the team that changed

00:41:12.160 its name is still selling the

00:41:14.200 old material now because they need to make money.

00:41:16.500 Capitalism.

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