The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Dolly Way vs. The Holly-Weird Way


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00:01:22.420 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:01:35.660 People love him and respect him.
00:01:37.140 Roger Stone.
00:01:38.420 Now, get in the zone.
00:01:40.340 It's the Stone Zone.
00:01:42.380 Here's Roger Stone.
00:01:44.740 And it's 8.06 p.m. Eastern Time.
00:01:47.780 I'm talking to you from the Eastern Time Zone.
00:01:49.260 I'm Jake Novak, in for Roger Stone, in for Roger Stone all week.
00:01:52.320 here on the stone zone starting tomorrow night michael cohen will be joining me for the rest of
00:01:56.600 the week but you got me solo again tonight and you know that i have to be another one of those people
00:02:02.000 who weighs in on the death of dolly parton and it's not about hearing too much about her for
00:02:08.020 crying out loud it's just going to be a day or so i think that this country uh owed her that much
00:02:14.620 so i'm not going to say the same old things that everyone else is saying because i think a lot of
00:02:18.920 those things have been great and i don't really need to repeat them i will of course because i
00:02:23.520 feel obliged to do so talk about how i too was a fan of hers i really don't know too many people
00:02:29.500 who weren't and i too had noted throughout her life it didn't take her death today for me to
00:02:35.520 say this a lot of my friends know i used to say this all the time i too often repeated the fact
00:02:40.640 that you never met anyone who worked with her who ever had a bad word to say about her ever
00:02:46.720 which is uh unusual and yeah i do have one or two people not big time studio heads or big time
00:02:54.260 famous people frankly but people who did work in the industry both the music or do work in the
00:02:59.940 music and the movie industry so i do have some people who have told me plenty of good and bad
00:03:04.780 about a number of celebrities and actors and singers and things like that and they too had
00:03:09.080 nothing ever bad to say about her but i want to focus on something about dolly partner that i
00:03:14.980 think is really important and i hope that the celebrities who i don't know in my private life
00:03:19.400 maybe will hear this over the airwaves even dolly parton and this is not a dig on her at all
00:03:27.060 but your big stars in america and all over the world and throughout the throughout the time of
00:03:33.860 mankind are extroverts they like attention as well not only is there nothing wrong with that
00:03:42.580 But it would be pretty bad to continue going to concerts and shows starring people who are too shy to actually sing or act. 0.99
00:03:52.900 There's nothing wrong with that.
00:03:54.560 There's nothing wrong with wanting attention, again, if it's used in the right way.
00:03:59.280 You know, some people who want attention decide to kill people to get attention or to commit acts of violence.
00:04:04.700 So, you know, just because you want attention doesn't mean it's bad.
00:04:07.900 You might want attention, you want to entertain them.
00:04:10.000 You want them to be entertained by you.
00:04:11.700 You want that engagement.
00:04:14.560 And that is why so many celebrities, singers and actors, sports stars, when they're not on stage or when they're not on the field or when they're not recording, desire attention during those periods as well.
00:04:29.700 And that's why they get involved in other things that will bring attention to themselves.
00:04:33.680 And very often what they do is they get involved in politics.
00:04:36.680 They get involved in contentious politics.
00:04:39.280 And that, my friends, is simply not the right way to do it.
00:04:44.420 Yes, I believe everyone has the right to speak their mind politically, culturally, religiously.
00:04:50.200 I'm not censoring anyone.
00:04:52.560 But I'm trying to give some sage advice here.
00:04:55.560 Because I've seen this for a very long time.
00:04:58.460 There's a right way and a wrong way to keep the attention focused on yourself.
00:05:03.780 If that's what you really want. 0.97
00:05:05.340 and dolly parton who i don't think wanted more attention than your average celebrity i don't 1.00
00:05:11.880 think she was that obsessed with people paying attention to her but she was more obsessed with
00:05:15.460 people paying attention to her than the average person because she was indeed a celebrity and
00:05:19.000 again there's nothing wrong with that as long as you find a way to exercise that desire in a
00:05:25.020 positive way and boy did she ever so if you're listening out there mark ruffalo or sean penn
00:05:31.420 or even some of the right-wing celebrities out there,
00:05:35.400 do it the Dolly way. 1.00
00:05:37.120 Give charity.
00:05:38.680 Get really involved in different communities.
00:05:41.740 Always have a positive word to say about your fellow performers
00:05:47.280 and your fellow people.
00:05:49.320 And no, you won't get the instant headline that you're going to get
00:05:52.540 when you bash Israel or when you bash Trump
00:05:55.360 or as a right-winger, maybe you bash the left.
00:05:58.440 No, you're not going to get that instant headline,
00:05:59.800 but you will get an enduring amount of attention.
00:06:04.420 Do you think that Mark Ruffalo, Sean Penn,
00:06:08.000 or people like them are going to get the kind of attention
00:06:11.820 that Dolly Parton's getting today?
00:06:13.260 And again, you or I may not be in any way interested
00:06:16.000 in what people say about us when we pass away.
00:06:18.320 We might only care about our families.
00:06:19.960 That's fine, but that's probably why I'm not a huge star.
00:06:24.480 Maybe one day I will be, but that's not my main goal.
00:06:27.500 and I don't think that was necessarily Dolly Parton's main goal either,
00:06:30.760 but you understand what I'm trying to say. 0.98
00:06:33.160 She was a star because she wanted to be a star,
00:06:36.140 and there is nothing wrong with that, again,
00:06:37.840 as long as you do that in the right way.
00:06:40.160 And boy, did she ever.
00:06:41.900 We're talking about her in a universally positive way today,
00:06:45.480 and I can't think of too many celebrities at her level
00:06:48.680 that will get that same kind of attention and admiration
00:06:52.340 the way that she's getting.
00:06:54.000 because not just because of her work and her singing,
00:06:57.860 which everyone, I think almost everyone acknowledged
00:07:00.600 as being a very talented career, 0.99
00:07:03.360 but because of who she was.
00:07:07.720 And no, I never knew her personally,
00:07:10.480 but there comes a time in your life
00:07:11.800 when you meet so many people who know so many
00:07:14.040 folks who kind of know that person and work with them
00:07:20.480 and you get that universal review of their character
00:07:24.320 that you just have to at some point say,
00:07:25.960 you know what, she seems like she was the real deal.
00:07:30.580 And I just can't think of too many celebrities
00:07:33.040 who we've spoken about that way,
00:07:35.120 even the ones who were really, really liked in general.
00:07:41.040 I think she did the slow and steady way 0.98
00:07:42.980 of finding a way to keep herself in the public eye 1.00
00:07:47.100 in a good way. 0.95
00:07:48.780 Yeah, I mean, she opened up a theme park.
00:07:50.480 You named it after herself, Dollywood.
00:07:51.900 You could say, oh, that's so narcissistic.
00:07:53.420 Really? 0.95
00:07:54.560 If she has a brand that's popular
00:07:57.040 and she wants to have a theme park
00:07:58.700 that's not only going to make money,
00:08:00.800 but also employ a lot of people
00:08:02.080 in a part of the country
00:08:03.300 where jobs have been scarce for a long time,
00:08:05.660 then why would you not use the most marketable name?
00:08:08.640 It was brilliant.
00:08:09.260 I don't know who came up with the word Dollywood,
00:08:10.780 obviously a play on the word Hollywood,
00:08:12.360 but that's brilliant.
00:08:14.500 Brilliant.
00:08:15.100 I remember when it opened
00:08:16.120 and it's going strong today.
00:08:20.480 there's just a good there's a like almost anything in life you can use
00:08:25.140 certain things for good or for bad and it just seems like universally she did it for good
00:08:30.700 and so i'd like all these other actors and actresses and and singers who i suspect
00:08:36.760 are speaking out on issues in the hopes of keeping attention on themselves or making them
00:08:43.580 themselves feel more relevant they're a little maybe they feel a little guilty that they do
00:08:47.140 superhero movies like Mark Ruffalo, where they feel a little guilty that he played, that Sean
00:08:52.260 Penn played stoners and other types of characters in his early career. And he wants to be serious,
00:08:56.620 wants to be thought of as a serious person, as a really, and so they get involved in partisan
00:09:01.380 politics, divisive politics. And that's not going to do it. It'll, first of all, it won't get you
00:09:11.660 the sustained attention that you want it'll get you some but only for it won't last and it's not
00:09:18.220 doing any good for you or anyone else really at the end of the day and again i'm not censoring
00:09:22.860 you you go ahead and say what you want to say whether you're a celebrity or not absolutely
00:09:26.020 knock yourself out i am not for censoring any of these people at all
00:09:30.300 but dolly parton did a slow and steady campaign for good and even the slightest scintilla of that
00:09:39.640 was about keeping herself in the news, 0.86
00:09:41.640 keeping herself talked about,
00:09:42.880 then who cares? 1.00
00:09:44.060 That's using your desire for attention,
00:09:46.740 using your desire to promote your career,
00:09:48.700 using your desire to keep yourself relevant
00:09:50.340 in the best way possible.
00:09:52.720 In the best way possible.
00:09:54.000 Do I think she would still do that 1.00
00:09:55.200 if she weren't so famous? 0.98
00:09:56.280 In her case, yes.
00:09:57.660 But honestly, I don't care.
00:10:00.120 I don't care.
00:10:01.280 I love the idea of judging people
00:10:03.080 by their actions
00:10:03.980 and not just their words.
00:10:06.040 and you could say someone has donated this for some reason
00:10:11.480 or helped a person for any other reason that you want.
00:10:15.640 At the end of the day, they help someone.
00:10:18.620 And it'll be up to God if you believe in God
00:10:20.680 or a heavenly court to decide whether they get the full reward for it
00:10:25.000 because they had other reasons to do it or not.
00:10:26.740 That to me is a part of theological philosophy
00:10:31.340 that we don't have to get into right now. 0.98
00:10:33.700 For all I know, Dolly Parton had all the best intentions all the time, 0.99
00:10:36.960 and I think she did, actually.
00:10:38.580 But even if she didn't, so what?
00:10:39.900 Her actions speak louder than any intention she may have had behind them.
00:10:44.520 And I can't remember her ever getting involved in divisive politics.
00:10:48.620 I can't remember her ever getting involved in something that was partisan.
00:10:54.140 And she appeared with presidents of both parties.
00:10:57.460 She was all over the country,
00:10:59.080 and she was loved by conservatives and liberals alike.
00:11:01.660 Hmm.
00:11:03.120 So you mean you don't have to pander to one side to be loved by them?
00:11:07.220 Interesting, isn't it? 0.99
00:11:09.540 Good for you, Dolly Parton. 0.97
00:11:12.180 And I know that you probably didn't do all these things
00:11:14.560 that you could get a nice day's worth of obituaries
00:11:16.680 because you're going to get them maybe more than a few days.
00:11:20.140 But you did.
00:11:21.920 You are getting them, and it's really, really well-deserved.
00:11:26.280 All right, this is The Stone Zone.
00:11:27.780 I'm Jake Novak, in for Roger Stone this evening.
00:11:29.560 I'm going to get you an update on that big Senate runoff election in South Carolina.
00:11:33.840 They're counting the votes already.
00:11:34.840 More than a third of them already counted, or just about a third of them.
00:11:37.480 I'm going to get you the latest results on that.
00:11:39.500 And I'm also going to get you the latest results on the whole Hakeem Jeffries story
00:11:43.420 that is blowing up right now within the Democratic Party.
00:11:46.620 And it is a Faustian bargain that Democrats have made with the radical, radical left
00:11:51.160 that's coming to a head right now.
00:11:53.200 Stay with us here.
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00:11:55.520 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:11:59.100 He likes politics and he's a professional at the highest level.
00:12:04.100 Roger Stone.
00:12:05.220 Who is Roger?
00:12:23.900 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:12:27.700 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.
00:12:31.780 Roger Stone was persecuted.
00:12:33.000 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
00:12:36.100 Now, get in the zone.
00:12:37.880 It's the Stone Zone.
00:12:39.980 Here's Roger Stone.
00:12:42.020 And I'm Jake Novak, in for Roger Stone for the entire week.
00:12:44.980 Michael Cohen will start to join me for the rest of the week,
00:12:47.680 starting tomorrow night, but I'm solo once again this evening.
00:12:51.280 Wanted to talk about Hakeem Jeffries,
00:12:53.120 because he's doing some things that are very instructive and educational.
00:12:57.700 when it comes to how politics is done publicly in this country.
00:13:02.380 And a lot of it really makes me laugh,
00:13:05.260 because right down to the way he's been dressing in a couple,
00:13:08.740 two of the most seen video clips of him in the last 24 hours,
00:13:13.100 right down to the way he's dressed is all planned.
00:13:15.360 Believe me, it's all planned.
00:13:17.440 If you've never seen the movie The Pelican Brief,
00:13:22.440 go see it.
00:13:23.640 Rent it on Netflix or whatever you do to get your entertainment.
00:13:27.700 there's a funny moment in the movie and it's very early in the film and i'm not giving anything away
00:13:32.660 because this happens in the first few moments of the movie you have a situation where two supreme
00:13:36.880 court justices are assassinated overnight from a friday night into a early saturday morning
00:13:41.320 president's woken up something like 5 a.m and they tell him and he's like okay i've got to be the one
00:13:46.120 who addresses the nation tomorrow we'll go as early as we can 7 a.m that's about the time we can go
00:13:50.980 and i will tell the nation this terrible news and then they start having discussion about what the
00:13:55.420 president should wear now remember it's 7 a.m on a saturday morning so pretty much the entire
00:14:01.280 group of advisors to the president in the room agree it's going to look really phony if you show
00:14:08.020 up in a perfect suit and tie at 7 a.m on a saturday morning so wear a cardigan with an open shirt
00:14:14.240 open collar and they all agree and then they suddenly cut to the address and sure enough he's
00:14:19.100 wearing like a three-piece suit as fancy as you could possibly get because clearly like some other
00:14:23.220 consultant came in at the end and said you got to do this i'm looking at hakeem jeffries and i'll
00:14:29.380 play these for you in just a moment the two clips that are going around on social media and have
00:14:33.280 been shown on regular media all day of hakeem jeffries and in one of them he's wearing uh what
00:14:40.260 looks like uh just like regular outfit for him for that anyone would walk around in on the streets
00:14:46.960 of brooklyn and he's actually standing in front of a public housing project and he's got a green
00:14:51.480 a lime green New York Yankees cap
00:14:54.200 with the bill of the cap straight as an arrow
00:14:57.400 so it's either brand new or he hasn't worn it that much
00:14:59.720 I know that's the way that they wear them
00:15:01.260 the young kids these days
00:15:02.700 but still it looks really new to me
00:15:04.400 and I think it's a prop
00:15:05.780 to make him look like he's just a regular guy
00:15:08.300 and then there's a clip of him on CNN
00:15:10.880 talking to Will Blitzer just wearing a polo shirt
00:15:13.040 because I had noted
00:15:14.820 in the last couple years or so
00:15:16.760 every time Hakeem Jeffries had made a public appearance
00:15:19.700 especially on television news he was wearing really really nice suits but now that hakeem
00:15:26.460 jeffries has to worry about being considered to establishment suddenly he's getting all casual
00:15:31.420 if you think that's a coincidence if you think it's just a mistake that he was wearing what
00:15:36.180 he's wearing in these in these viral clips now you don't understand political consultancy it goes
00:15:41.140 right down to the threads on your back all right now to the actual content of what he's talking
00:15:46.660 about now in this first clip where he's standing in front of a public housing project i can tell
00:15:50.740 this one because if you live in new york city long enough you know that you know how they're
00:15:53.520 constructed so there's no sign there but this is a public housing project for sure this is the one
00:15:57.600 with him in the lime green new york yankees cap and he's wearing a green polo shirt first of all
00:16:03.540 he looks like a deer in the headlights you can tell the man is scared out of his life
00:16:06.800 because he's already been threatened by the democrat socialists out there who say they're
00:16:11.760 going to come for him no matter what and now he's getting attacked for having a meeting god forbid
00:16:16.540 you should have a meeting with jared kushner so here he is in the i'll just play the first few
00:16:21.320 moments of the clip where he is making it clear that i met with him but uh it doesn't mean i i'm
00:16:26.860 with him listen to this what's up y'all just finished up an event here in the community
00:16:32.900 in brooklyn i want to give you a little real talk on this jared kushner situation
00:16:38.760 He asked for a meeting, and I took it to discuss the affordability crisis that exists that is not a hoax.
00:16:51.460 At the same period of time, I shouldn't have to say it, but I am.
00:16:55.200 No one is going to get a pass.
00:17:00.220 We're going to hold every single member of the Trump cartel accountable.
00:17:05.880 tough talk there from a guy who's clearly afraid afraid for his political life
00:17:11.120 i'm sorry i'm not convinced i see no problem with meeting with the leadership of the other side
00:17:18.960 i don't want to meet with hassan piker or some of these other crazies i don't and i'll talk
00:17:22.880 and and jeffrey's next clip will be about hassan piker but an elected leader from the other side
00:17:27.620 pretty much always is worth meeting with jared kushner isn't an elected leader but he's certainly
00:17:32.560 incredibly close to the president i don't blame hakeem jeffries for the meeting and i don't blame
00:17:37.620 jared kushner for the meeting but clearly people on hakeem jeffries side of the aisle or at least
00:17:41.840 people who think he thinks are on his side of the aisle are threatening him because he looks
00:17:45.600 incredibly terrified in that video i mean really you don't need to be a psychologist to know that
00:17:51.400 now later in the day he shows up on wolf blitzer's show on cnn in another polo shirt again he doesn't
00:17:59.080 want to be establishment looking for the next few months so you'll see he won't go he won't be
00:18:03.620 wearing those really great suits for the next few months because he needs to look like he's
00:18:06.520 more of a regular guy and here he is doing something good in my opinion really denouncing
00:18:11.960 Hassan Piker listen to leader Jeffries you issued a statement yesterday slamming what you call the
00:18:17.560 malicious claim that American Jews are inviting violence against themselves as quote dangerous
00:18:24.040 and anti-Semitic. Was that in reference to far-left influencer Hassan Piker and his recent
00:18:30.180 very controversial comments? Yes, those comments were dangerous, malicious, and anti-Semitic,
00:18:40.160 and should not be tolerated by anyone in the public square. What we've seen is a startling
00:18:46.500 rise of hate crimes all across the United States of America, but particularly in this moment,
00:18:52.400 directed against our Jewish brothers and sisters.
00:18:56.380 So, good statement there.
00:18:58.620 And he's trying to get a good message out there
00:19:02.040 while he still does these other videos telling everyone on his side
00:19:05.800 that he's still going to come for Trump and call them a Trump cartel.
00:19:09.720 I'll talk a little bit more about this when we come back from the break here in the Stone Zone.
00:19:13.360 I'm Jake Novak, in for Roger Stone. Stay with us.
00:19:22.400 this is the stone zone now get in the zone it's the stone zone a man who's gone through hell
00:19:39.580 but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him not everybody but
00:19:45.920 People love him and respect him.
00:19:47.440 Roger Stone.
00:19:48.480 Where's Roger Stone?
00:19:49.820 Here's Roger Stone.
00:19:51.980 And I'm Jake Novak in for Roger Stone this evening and the rest of the week.
00:19:55.320 Michael Cohen will be joining me starting Wednesday night for the remainder of the week.
00:19:58.600 At that point, I want to get you updated on that South Carolina U.S. Senate special election runoff primary.
00:20:04.940 People in South Carolina are going to have to vote a lot this year.
00:20:08.360 They've got 66% of the vote counted, and there isn't that little red checkmark next to Darlene Graham's name,
00:20:13.940 but I suspect it's going to pop up pretty soon.
00:20:15.920 she is leading Ralph Norman with 66% of the vote counted by a little bit more than 10,000 votes.
00:20:23.980 So it's starting to look like she's got this, but again, I'll let you know.
00:20:27.960 I'll keep you updated as long as I can until the end of the hour. 0.93
00:20:30.840 She's got 130,000 in change votes. 0.87
00:20:33.200 He's got almost 120,000 votes, so more than 10,000 vote lead.
00:20:37.680 And they just updated it again, and it's still more than a 10,000 vote lead for Darlene Graham.
00:20:42.680 So that I want you to get updated on.
00:20:44.960 Also, feel free to weigh in.
00:20:46.940 We'll take some calls in this last half hour, 800-848-9222.
00:20:51.620 I wanted to continue this discussion about the Democrats, though,
00:20:55.140 and what's going on with people like Hakeem Jeffries
00:20:57.340 and even people like Josh Gottheimer.
00:21:00.740 One of the aspects of this story about the rise of these Democrat socialists
00:21:05.860 and these radicals that I don't think enough people have mentioned yet
00:21:08.500 is the fact that it's been 10 years now that Democrats in general
00:21:13.760 have decided that as long as trump says it no matter how much common sense there is to it
00:21:19.300 no matter how much they used to be in favor of a policy that he might be talking about
00:21:23.740 they're against it and they'll just be against anything he says including the good things that
00:21:28.240 he says and does that's it that's been their policy they're sticking with it and what i think
00:21:33.060 a lot of democrats whether they were young at the time or whether they're already established
00:21:37.440 i'm talking about elected democrats here i think one of the things that they didn't realize at the
00:21:41.760 time or are now just coming to realize is that a lot of the people who have called themselves
00:21:49.300 Democrats or a lot of the people who joined the general anti-Trump movement weren't just against
00:21:55.460 the things that Trump was saying because it was Trump they actually didn't like the things that
00:22:00.900 he was saying so when he said that he wanted to make America great or that he wanted to destroy
00:22:05.300 ISIS or that he wanted to make our border secure they were actually against all those things
00:22:09.860 they weren't just pretending to be against them because trump said it and there's
00:22:14.060 and there's points to be scored in a lot of avenues in america to just be against trump
00:22:18.160 all the time these folks really believe that nonsense these folks really do believe in open
00:22:23.620 borders these folks really are communists these folks really do in the battle between hamas and
00:22:29.760 israel actually do support hamas as crazy as that is and now they're stuck with these folks 0.62
00:22:35.980 they're stuck with the Hassan Pikers they're stuck with the Zoran Mamdani's 0.96
00:22:42.680 they're stuck with the Dara Elisa Chevaliers they created this monster or gave this monster 0.53
00:22:49.100 oxygen and now they got him Hakeem Jeffries doesn't really believe everything Trump says
00:22:56.000 is wrong he doesn't really want open borders he's just trying to score some political points
00:23:01.100 I don't think these people believe in anything well some of these folks actually do believe in
00:23:04.380 something and they're scary and they're dangerous and they're coming for you Hassan you know they're
00:23:09.860 coming for you Hakim that's why you look like you were scared out of your mind in that first video 0.83
00:23:14.660 with the lime green Yankee cap standing in front of a housing project you are afraid it's easy to
00:23:22.100 see that and I'm glad that you spoke up against Hassan Piker good for you Hakim Jeffries but you
00:23:29.920 have to understand you invited these guys in and they're not just saying this stuff to get more
00:23:34.900 clicks they're not just saying this stuff because it hurts trump or they think it hurts trump they
00:23:41.180 really believe this and they'll come for you first by the way even though they might hate me
00:23:47.900 or hate trump or hear these other people a lot more they'll come for you first because you're
00:23:51.420 there you're in their proximity a lot more than i am and you should be very very worried
00:23:58.680 very very worried 800-848-9222 you can weigh in on any of these things it's important for
00:24:07.460 everyone to understand this now there's people like josh gottheimer now josh gottheimer is
00:24:12.340 clearly looking to position himself as the new moderate or even the more conservative type
00:24:18.740 democrat it isn't just with his talk against anti-semitism which as a jewish congressman
00:24:24.320 isn't that hard for him to do although one of the biggest purveyors of anti-semitism in america
00:24:29.620 right now is bernie sanders who of course sprang from a jewish womb and for those of you who know
00:24:34.880 history some of the biggest enemies of the jewish people also sprang from jewish wombs so it's not 0.83
00:24:40.340 really that much of a surprise nothing new there but more than just being an opponent of anti-semites
00:24:46.880 within the party and things like that josh gottheimer has also recently started to step up
00:24:51.180 his attacks on Kathy Hochul. He's really going after her on congestion pricing,
00:24:56.140 which hurts his constituents in New Jersey. Josh Gottheimer is a Democrat from New Jersey.
00:25:01.940 But, you know, and I'll play what Josh Gottheimer has to say about Abdul Rahman El-Sayed and Hassan
00:25:08.840 Piker in just a second. But I just want everyone to understand he's just as guilty of everything 0.53
00:25:12.560 I just said about Hakeem Jeffries and these other Democrats who allowed these people in,
00:25:17.460 in the in the thinking in the incorrect thinking that they just hated trump just like they do
00:25:22.480 and they figured they were taking all these positions because anything that donald trump
00:25:26.440 says to them it was worth opposing no matter what he said no matter how much they supported
00:25:30.140 these policies in the past like secure borders you know how many times have you heard the sound
00:25:36.400 from bill clinton and even barack obama going off against illegal immigration i hear them all the
00:25:41.860 time of course and then we all say oh now that trump says that they don't like it and doesn't
00:25:48.100 that prove they don't care okay that that proves that about them about these elected democrats
00:25:52.820 but it doesn't prove anything about these new young folks in the party
00:25:57.060 or adjacent to the party who actually do believe in open borders
00:26:00.980 they're not against us border security just because trump said it there they've always
00:26:05.840 been against it they want communism they want mayhem they want anarchy
00:26:09.240 and josh gottheimer is just as responsible for this as anybody else i remember josh your ads
00:26:17.060 last year in the new jersey governor's primary that you lost and what was the ad that you spent
00:26:23.640 all that money on and was the signature of your campaign it was an ai generated image of you 0.85
00:26:30.060 boxing in a ring punching donald trump it was pathetic but there you go that's what you wanted 0.96
00:26:38.080 to portray as someone who would punch donald trump in the face real fighter i'm a tough guy 0.98
00:26:43.220 well i gotta tell you josh some of those people sitting ringside weren't just cheering you
00:26:50.200 punching donald trump they were cheering you in an imaginary way punching everything donald
00:26:55.600 trump stands for and even somewhat left-wing americans believe in a lot of the things donald
00:27:01.280 trump stands for no one wants no one decent in america wants more crime no one really wants
00:27:06.980 everyone released from the jails except for these radical leftist socialist communists they really
00:27:12.520 believe in all that they don't care that it hurts trump that's not their primary thing they love that
00:27:16.600 but they actually believe in this nonsense and that's why you got guys like el saeed and hassan
00:27:22.800 piker in your party now josh here he here he is on cnn today talking about how well he should he
00:27:29.100 support these people i know this is a hypothetical but uh as obviously you're a lifelong democrat if
00:27:36.140 If you were a Michigan voter, how would you vote in the Senate race?
00:27:41.320 You know, there's a big clear. 0.99
00:27:43.880 There's no way I'm ever coming out for Al-Sayed right now.
00:27:46.260 And like in total, you know, this is a guy who has made it very clear his views toward 0.91
00:27:51.920 and has refused to back off his views toward Jewish Americans.
00:27:56.320 And I hope he comes out and clarifies where he is. 0.79
00:28:01.080 I also hope that he does the right thing and condemns Hassan Piker clearly and the language
00:28:07.140 very clearly. You know, Josh, I don't know what you expected to get in your party when you do
00:28:14.700 commercials with AI generated pictures and videos of you punching Donald Trump in a ring like a
00:28:19.580 boxer. What did you think you were going to get? You thought you were going to get refined,
00:28:24.340 decent non-bloodthirsty americans and don't think i forgot the images that you were portraying
00:28:33.540 scott stringer is another one he's a new york city politician for those of you who don't know
00:28:39.180 who he is and his big claim to fame was that he had the nastiest language in his anti-trump rhetoric
00:28:45.440 in his campaign commercials last year when he was running in the mayor's primary here in new york
00:28:51.540 as a Democrat. He actually used the word schmuck in his ad over and over again on TV. I had a 0.96
00:28:58.440 picture. It was a picture of Donald Trump. He's like, I'll make sure this schmuck doesn't hurt
00:29:01.200 us or harm us. Something to that effect. Ooh, a big tough guy. Scott, Josh, who do you think 0.99
00:29:07.680 you're attracting? Whose attention do you think you're getting? Whose blood do you think you're
00:29:11.960 boiling when you used words like schmuck or videos of you punching the sitting president 1.00
00:29:17.720 in the United States. 0.99
00:29:18.520 You think you're going to get
00:29:19.280 the nice white glove group? 0.96
00:29:21.600 The people who know
00:29:22.640 you're just playing a game
00:29:23.740 and that if Trump comes out
00:29:25.640 with a good policy,
00:29:26.820 at least secretly you'd support it?
00:29:28.940 No.
00:29:30.220 You're going to get violent,
00:29:32.020 really, really scary looking people.
00:29:35.000 And that's what you got.
00:29:36.660 And you should take ownership of that.
00:29:40.100 Marley in Newburgh, New York.
00:29:41.380 You want to talk about
00:29:41.920 the Democratic Party.
00:29:42.780 Go ahead, Marley.
00:29:45.480 Hey, Jake.
00:29:46.440 It's good to talk to you. So, as you know, I work in conservative politics issues, but, you know, I was raised in Massachusetts, one of the most progressive times in the country.
00:29:58.880 And I remember that empty, horrible feeling of nihilism.
00:30:04.060 And I think that it's really sad that young Americans right now are being raised to hate their country because Democrats are leading us down.
00:30:13.120 you're breaking up a little bit marley but i think we got your your point yeah i mean
00:30:19.420 you know what i would love to do and i don't know if enough television
00:30:22.660 news programs or radio news programs have done this i would like to get some kids who are in
00:30:28.640 high school right now let them know that we're not here to put them on the spot or make them feel bad
00:30:32.800 and just ask them what have you been taught about this country did you get the impression from your
00:30:38.740 classes so far and i you know got to do a good job of screening these people because a lot of
00:30:42.640 these kids are going to be coached by their parents one way or the other or something like
00:30:45.900 that. But I'd love to be able to ask someone, hey, what was your impression of America from
00:30:50.900 the classes that you've taken? Have you been taught about communism? Have you been taught
00:30:55.180 about the history of this country, good and bad, but generally has there been an overall positive
00:31:01.580 outlook on the country or an overall negative outlook on the country? And I'm sorry to say,
00:31:07.040 I think that even in moderate school areas of the country where they have a school district, obviously there's a school district everywhere, I think generally we're starting to get to that point where we are mostly giving our young kids a negative outlook on this country.
00:31:25.300 Not everywhere and not on everything, but in general I think it's a negative outlook that's being given to our kids.
00:31:32.820 And it's obviously it's a shame. Obviously, it's a shame. Now, speaking of communism and fascism, you know, it's funny. It doesn't matter whether you're a right wing fascist or a left wing fascist. You often use the same tricks.
00:31:46.020 and one of my favorite shows of all time i might be the only straight man in new york who says
00:31:52.460 this publicly and i don't care because it was such a good show i love the original evita the
00:31:57.060 broadway version with patty lapone and mandy patinkin uh it's just an unbelievable show
00:32:02.300 and one of the songs in the show talks about how juan and eva peron when they were ruling argentina
00:32:09.200 used to give away like basically like prizes almost like a lottery
00:32:13.640 the country they were robbing the country left and right and poverty was growing and instead of
00:32:19.580 implementing a policy to stop poverty they would every once in a while trot out a family that they
00:32:24.040 had chosen from a list of names to give them something like a home or uh pay their kids
00:32:29.360 college tuition or something like that and here is mandy patenkin playing shake of our singing
00:32:34.380 about it in a really great number from the from the show just listen to this the hungry to her 0.88
00:32:39.440 Roping up the doors
00:32:41.440 Never been a fun like the foundation ever for all
00:32:45.440 Rolling on in
00:32:59.440 Would you like to try a college education?
00:33:10.060 Own your landlord's house, take the family on vacation. 0.99
00:33:17.920 Ava and her blessed fund can make your dreams come true.
00:33:22.860 Here's all you have to do, my friends.
00:33:26.400 Write your name and your dream on a card or a pad or a ticket.
00:33:30.240 Throw it high in the air and should our lady pick it. 1.00
00:33:33.940 She will change your way of life for a week or even two. 1.00
00:33:38.720 Name me anyone who cares as much as Ava Pearl
00:33:42.140 Okay, so you hear that.
00:33:46.040 Now I want you to listen to Zoran Mamdani
00:33:48.340 talking about a special deal he's working on
00:33:52.320 to send a lucky few to a certain event.
00:33:56.760 Listen to this.
00:34:03.180 It's coming.
00:34:03.900 We announced that we have secured
00:34:05.660 1,000 discounted tickets for New Yorkers
00:34:07.920 to be sold at $100 a ticket.
00:34:09.960 They will go on sale tomorrow at 10 a.m.
00:34:12.720 And any New Yorker who lives in our city,
00:34:15.840 all they will be required to do is provide their zip code.
00:34:18.060 They can buy a ticket for themselves and one other lucky person.
00:34:21.600 It'll be first come, first serve, pun intended.
00:34:24.440 And we're excited about this because part of the beauty of living in our...
00:34:30.400 Because it's pageantry.
00:34:32.940 Want to go to the U.S. Open?
00:34:33.980 then Mayor Mamdani, like Eva Perón, will pick your name out of a hat, and you will get to go.
00:34:40.780 It's an old trick of fascist dictators, cult of personality types.
00:34:48.560 You don't actually do anything to help the poor.
00:34:51.080 You don't actually have a policy to actually help them,
00:34:53.000 but you trot out one family, one person that you've chosen from a hat, and you help them.
00:34:59.280 You give them a big prize, and everyone looks and says, wow, that's so nice.
00:35:03.720 It's an old trick.
00:35:05.180 I'm on to you, Zoran.
00:35:06.460 I'm on to all of you who do this kind of stuff.
00:35:09.220 All right, we come back on The Stone Zone.
00:35:10.660 I'll talk about an interesting number that you should have,
00:35:12.620 and you should know about it,
00:35:13.660 and I'll tell you the latest on that vote count in South Carolina.
00:35:16.680 Have they called it yet for Darlene Graham?
00:35:18.240 I'll let you know when we come back.
00:35:19.220 You're on The Stone Zone.
00:35:20.700 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:35:23.980 He is a great, great person, Roger Stone.
00:35:28.160 The Stone Zone.
00:35:32.960 We'll be right back.
00:36:02.960 It's the Stone Zone.
00:36:05.200 Here's Roger Stone.
00:36:07.400 And I'm Jake Novak in for Roger Stone.
00:36:09.300 I want to get you updated on a couple of numbers you should know.
00:36:12.520 They haven't put the little red checkmark next to Darlene Graham's name,
00:36:15.460 but you've got to think it's imminent.
00:36:16.400 They have counted 77% of the votes in South Carolina.
00:36:19.540 Boy, they count fast down there.
00:36:21.740 And she has an almost 19,000 vote lead over Ralph Norman,
00:36:26.100 and the last time I told you it was 10,000, so it's getting bigger.
00:36:29.280 Oh, now it's almost 20,000.
00:36:30.820 Well, it's definitely 19,000 and change.
00:36:32.960 with 77% of the vote.
00:36:35.160 So I expect Arlene Graham to be declared the winner
00:36:38.660 by some of those news services like AP pretty soon.
00:36:41.900 The other number I want you to know is that
00:36:43.540 we had a massive number of arrests by ICE in July.
00:36:48.240 We just found this out today.
00:36:50.140 49,571 arrests, the highest single monthly arrest total
00:36:54.040 of the second Trump administration by ICE.
00:36:56.960 And you know, folks, if there were actual legal immigrants
00:37:00.220 who are getting arrested, legal citizens being arrested and deported, we would know every one
00:37:04.860 of their names right now. And I'm happy to say we haven't really heard of any real violent
00:37:09.820 incidents like we had in Minnesota in the dead of winter. The reason why they're going after ICE
00:37:15.380 is not because they're reckless and they're dangerous, but because considering the amount
00:37:18.760 of engagements that they're having every day, it's got to be one of the most restrained and
00:37:22.840 ethical law enforcement groups I've ever seen. Do you think the NYPD, if they had 50,000 arrests
00:37:29.300 a month of this kind of this kind where you actually have to take the person into custody
00:37:33.520 would have no shootings no i mean give me a break they're doing a great job at ice
00:37:40.440 it's precisely the the narrative about them is precisely the opposite of the truth
00:37:44.820 got a couple minutes a little minute and change let's go to andrew in oklahoma i was born in
00:37:50.440 oklahoma so i'm biased andrew you want to talk about the whole tennis ticket giveaway go ahead
00:37:54.420 danger yeah jake uh calling from oklahoma good show hey i was wondering uh you think i could go
00:38:01.980 there myself and just kind of give a 11102 zip code uh and they'll count me as a real new yorker
00:38:10.720 yeah i you know what i don't know i mean you gotta at least pretend to be a real new yorker
00:38:14.820 to get into this lottery uh i don't know all i can tell you is that you know the u.s open and
00:38:20.320 And New York's image throughout the world is a really – there's a marriage between the two that you may not know about.
00:38:27.220 There was a famous case in the late 80s.
00:38:29.400 I think it might have been 89 or maybe as late as 1990 when a couple from Utah was in the city to see the U.S. Open.
00:38:36.600 And they were stabbed and killed by some people on the subway on their way to the Roseland Dance Hall, which I don't think exists anymore.
00:38:43.940 And ever since then, the city has been very, very much had their eyes open about this,
00:38:47.780 knowing that there's a lot of new tourists in the city
00:38:49.540 and they want to make sure that there aren't any incidents.
00:38:52.560 So it's an issue.
00:38:54.120 It's an issue.
00:38:54.680 We try to be extra careful during the U.S. Open here.
00:38:58.660 But all kidding aside, and that certainly wasn't a joke,
00:39:00.820 I'm just trying to tell you about how the image of New York City
00:39:03.620 and the U.S. Open are very much married,
00:39:05.220 very much like the World Cup soccer event
00:39:08.500 and America's image throughout the world.
00:39:10.580 We're very much married over the summer.
00:39:12.020 This is going to be like a mini World Cup
00:39:13.260 that we're going to have here in New York City.
00:39:15.860 But your question is well taken.
00:39:17.380 How are they going to really make sure that you actually are a resident of New York?
00:39:20.840 Are they really going to check?
00:39:22.680 And again, is this going to be another one of those things where they really check to see if you can win a U.S. Open ticket?
00:39:27.460 But voting, they're not going to check anything at all.
00:39:29.360 God forbid that's racist.
00:39:30.540 That's horrible. 1.00
00:39:31.680 I get the feeling, you know what, put a gun to my head. 0.99
00:39:34.560 Please don't, but theoretically put a gun to my head.
00:39:37.180 My guess is they're going to check a lot more to see if you're a real New York City resident to get into this lottery than to actually vote.
00:39:45.800 And boy, does that say it all or what.
00:39:48.420 All right, I'm Jake Novak.
00:39:49.340 I've been in for Roger Stone tonight.
00:39:50.660 I'll be with you the rest of the week.
00:39:52.220 And stay with us for the rest of the week starting tomorrow night when Michael Cohen will join me.