The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - September 09, 2026


The Mid-terms, Renaming New Mexico, And The Socialist Left

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00:00:30.000 this is the stone zone with roger stone people love him and respect him roger stone
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00:00:58.160 Well, Republicans are opening an experiment in Dallas this week
00:01:01.100 that almost no modern president at all,
00:01:03.740 a full-scale midterm convention built around a sitting president
00:01:07.680 who's not on the ballot.
00:01:09.180 I'm feeling rather wistful about this
00:01:11.400 since I have been to every Republican national convention since 1964.
00:01:17.720 I was exactly 12 years old when I went to Chiron, Barry Goldwater.
00:01:22.200 And, of course, Richard Nixon's two conventions in Miami Beach,
00:01:25.020 1968 and 1972.
00:01:28.200 1972, they originally planned to go to San Diego.
00:01:31.740 Then they figured out San Diego didn't have enough hotel rooms.
00:01:34.840 They ended up back in Miami Beach.
00:01:37.620 And, of course, three conventions with the great Ronald Reagan,
00:01:40.740 working on his 76, 1980, and 1984 campaigns.
00:01:44.680 And, of course, all of the Trump conventions.
00:01:47.880 I have not missed the Republican National Convention since this one.
00:01:51.160 President Trump and President J.D. Vance are headlining
00:01:54.240 the two-day RNC gathering joined by cabinet officials and candidates
00:01:58.720 emphasizing border enforcement, tax cuts, manufacturing, trade and public safety.
00:02:04.720 Organizers expect about 30,000 attendees.
00:02:07.500 They've budgeted roughly $40 million.
00:02:10.720 President Trump's coalition includes working class and lower propensity voters
00:02:15.240 who have not turned out strongly in non-presidential years,
00:02:19.400 but have turned out in years in which Trump himself is on the ballot.
00:02:22.460 So by putting President Trump at the center of this spectacle, Republicans are trying to gin up some presidential energy for an off-year contest.
00:02:30.140 This I can tell you.
00:02:31.620 Despite the fact that some in the mainstream media may not provide the coverage that this event deserves,
00:02:37.740 it will get a disproportionate amount of coverage in the crucial state of Texas.
00:02:43.360 Texas, where a U.S. Senate seat and the governorship are both up for grabs.
00:02:47.820 The governor's race is closer than expected, and the Senate seat, of course, being one of the most focused races in the country, where Ken Paxton, the sitting attorney general, who came from behind to win President Trump's endorsement over a rhino in that state's primary, faces James Tallarico, a far-left progressive, if not Islamic Marxist Democrat, who's now trying to pass for a moderate.
00:03:13.680 Nationalizing the election around Trump's record will have the potential to energize voters who might otherwise stay home.
00:03:19.840 The Republican brand is highly unpopular nationwide.
00:03:23.240 There's still too many rhinos in the fold.
00:03:25.240 Republican President Trump is the unquestioned leader and the crown jewel of the GOP.
00:03:30.160 There are a subset of voters out there, most of them blue-collar, working families, middle-class voters who aren't Republicans but will vote for Trump.
00:03:40.500 This is why Mitt Romney and John McCain did not win, and Donald Trump did.
00:03:45.480 He should be, in my opinion, featured as much as possible to energize this MAGA base,
00:03:49.660 because if they decide to stay home, well, we lose the midterms.
00:03:53.760 With Republicans to fail to pass measures like the Common Sense Save America Act,
00:03:59.520 President Trump has to bail out the feckless, weak Republican establishment yet again.
00:04:05.700 He's very effective trying to place his agenda on every Republican line without listing himself.
00:04:09.960 This is the key to getting as many Republicans elected as possible.
00:04:13.460 And we have to do a better job, frankly, of communicating his record, whether it is the drop in violent crime, whether it is the sealing of our borders, whether it is the low inflation rate, whether it is the new jobs numbers.
00:04:26.780 On so many fronts, the president is breaking through and keeping his promises.
00:04:32.280 Is everything ideal?
00:04:33.480 No, we don't claim that it is.
00:04:35.000 But just the fact that Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, and Steve Witkoff are on a mission for peace, having just met with Putin in Russia and then with Zelensky in Ukraine, demonstrates that the volatility here in the political sphere is really extraordinary.
00:04:54.120 Almost anything could happen, and any breakthrough, either here or less likely but possible, in Iran would have an extraordinary effect on the off-term elections.
00:05:05.480 By the way, the new Harvard-Harris poll, no one's idea of a biased or Republican-leaning poll, shows that generically Republicans actually lead Democrats 51-49 on the ballot. 0.92
00:05:16.440 So for those panikins who are ready to throw in the towel in the midterm elections, I say right here in the Stone Zone, not so fast. 0.90
00:05:26.020 Meanwhile, President Trump has floated another geographic rebranding, this time suggesting that New Mexico could become New America. 0.92
00:05:34.040 He posted maps showing the state with Mexico crossed out, replaced by America, and the White House amplifies the image.
00:05:40.960 President Trump called the proposed name prestigious and beautiful.
00:05:44.700 Democrat New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham, who is the son of the great Manuel Lujan, a longtime Republican congressman, rejected the idea immediately, noting that the name predates the United States.
00:05:57.380 Spanish explorers were using Nuevo Mexico centuries before statehood.
00:06:02.020 But unlike federal names for geographic features, the president actually doesn't possess unilateral authority to rename a state.
00:06:09.460 And the White House has not announced a process to attempt it.
00:06:12.840 This is what is known as trolling.
00:06:15.260 President Trump was floating an idea that he certainly hoped it would get immediate attraction.
00:06:20.420 And of course, it did. 1.00
00:06:22.180 Theodore Roosevelt used to do this kind of thing with the yellow journalists of his day. 1.00
00:06:26.660 President Trump has already actually renamed the Gulf of Mexico as the Gulf of America. 1.00
00:06:31.240 and he swapped out Lake America for Lake Ontario.
00:06:35.300 Those bold moves are expressions of national confidence from a president
00:06:38.940 who's not afraid to flout political norms when he deems it necessary.
00:06:43.520 In this case, President Trump's suggestion also lands inside a trade dispute with Mexico
00:06:48.060 as he wants to show the Mexican government who calls the shots.
00:06:52.000 It remains to be seen whether New America will actually appear in any legal state. 0.86
00:06:55.400 I don't think so, but it's already accomplished the immediate objective
00:06:58.580 of making liberals howl completely bent out of shape. 0.93
00:07:01.940 That takes their energy away from opposing
00:07:03.560 President Trump's America vs. agenda
00:07:05.220 and other crucial fronts, and for that alone,
00:07:07.860 well, I think it's a win.
00:07:10.480 Meanwhile, construction preparations are beginning
00:07:12.860 for President Trump's proposed Triumphal Arch
00:07:15.440 near Arlington National Cemetery,
00:07:17.740 a project already nicknamed Arc de Trump.
00:07:20.620 Pretty good joke there.
00:07:22.980 Interior Secretary Doug Burgum says excavation work
00:07:26.460 is expected to begin within weeks
00:07:28.020 on a roughly 250-foot structure planned near Memorial Circle across the Potomac from the Lincoln Memorial.
00:07:36.640 Renderings show a monumental white arch topped with gilded statuary,
00:07:41.480 including wing features and eagles with an observation deck incorporated into the design.
00:07:46.640 The administration presents the project as a memorial to America's military service
00:07:51.260 and part of a broader effort to reshape and beautify prominent federal spaces in Washington.
00:07:56.900 Last time I was in the Oval Office, the president was lamenting the fact that the federal government has all of these statues of our founders, our forefathers, and other national heroes, and they're all crated up in warehouses.
00:08:09.740 And he wants to beautify our nation's capital.
00:08:12.340 He certainly is doing that because he is, at heart, of course, a builder and a developer.
00:08:17.180 And he understands the majestic beauty of D.C. if it is kept up or even improved.
00:08:22.740 This project arrives before all of its legal and planning disputes are settled.
00:08:26.900 which are expected to be numerous from leftist obstructionists who live to impede President Trump's vision for the country and the Capitol.
00:08:35.160 Final approvals remain outstanding, and opponents have challenged the administration's ability to proceed,
00:08:40.600 of course, arguing that the arch could disrupt historic sight lines, inquire additional reviews.
00:08:47.380 The planned height exceeds Washington's usual building limits, which could easily, of course, be exempted.
00:08:52.160 The monument is a deliberate return to grand civic architecture at a time when much federal design is favored restraint and abstraction.
00:09:02.160 Modern buildings are brutalist and erected to be eyesores, in my opinion.
00:09:06.700 This is a way to demoralize the public and dull them down to the perception of true architectural beauty.
00:09:12.580 President Trump is pushing back against this movement.
00:09:15.260 The argument is about far more than stone and steel.
00:09:18.340 America's monuments have always been statements about what the country chooses to honor and how
00:09:23.160 power wants to be remembered. President Trump is proposing something unapologetically monumental.
00:09:29.200 The courts and the planning agencies must stand aside and allow President Trump's vision to
00:09:34.080 finally be realized. Put me down as being in favor of the Ark de Trump. Meanwhile, Secretary of State
00:09:41.000 Marco Rubio begins a three-county Latin America tour Tuesday with a premise that Washington has
00:09:48.060 neglected for far too long, competition with China, which starts much closer at home than
00:09:53.120 South China Sea. Rubio opens up in Colombia, where nearly elected President Abadalardo Diaspralia
00:09:59.540 has replaced Gustavo Petro, a leftist, and moved quickly towards closer security cooperation with
00:10:06.060 the United States. Colombia has joined the U.S.-led Shield of the Americas initiative against
00:10:11.680 drug trafficking and resumed joint military operations. Rubio will also then travel to
00:10:17.560 Ecuador, and Peru, both led by conservative governments that are happy to work with the
00:10:21.980 Trump administration. The State Department says counter-narcotics cooperation is one of the
00:10:26.820 central purposes of the trip. No one has missed the fact, however, that this trip by the Secretary
00:10:32.140 of State means he will not appear at the Republican National Convention in Dallas.
00:10:37.200 So for those who say that Rubio was planning to run for president, this would argue against it.
00:10:41.980 Of course, it doesn't mean that he couldn't run, but it is interesting that J.D. Vance
00:10:46.280 and President Trump will headline the convention in Dallas
00:10:50.280 while Secretary of State Marco Rubio is fighting narco-Marxism in this hemisphere.
00:10:56.860 The broader context here is about influence, infrastructure,
00:11:00.100 and political alignment across the Western Hemisphere.
00:11:02.640 China has spent years expanding relationships through trade, telecommunications,
00:11:07.800 ports, loans, and construction projects, dumping many yen into the region.
00:11:12.960 The Trump administration is answering with security partnerships, anti-cartel operations, investment, and more explicit assertion that this hemisphere is strategically central to the United States.
00:11:25.180 This is, of course, the core of the president's so-called Don Roe Doctrine, based on leverage rather than occupation.
00:11:33.460 Rubio's advantage is that geography and shared security interests are real, and conservative governments are happy to receive the help.
00:11:40.620 The administration has the opportunity to build durable partnerships to help influence the Latin American renaissance that's currently underway, and together we can make the Americas great again.
00:11:50.340 It is not a coincidence that since the shutdown of USAID flooding millions of dollars into the region that was being used for politics, that pro-American, pro-nationalist, pro-freedom, anti-Marxist, anti-narco governments have won in Chile, in Peru, in Honduras, and again here in Colombia, as I said.
00:12:12.400 Meanwhile, Huawei, the Chinese internet giant, is going to trial in New York City on criminal charges
00:12:18.460 and shadowed the Chinese telecommunications giant for a number of years.
00:12:22.520 Jury selection is beginning in a federal case accusing Huawei and several subsidiaries of racketeering,
00:12:27.960 theft of trade secrets, bank and wire fraud, sanctions violations, and other misconduct.
00:12:33.800 Prosecutors allege the company stole American technology, conducted prohibited business involving Iran and North Korea,
00:12:40.540 and helped install surveillance technology used by Iranian authorities during the anti-government demonstrations.
00:12:47.760 Huawei, of course, denies wrongdoing, has argued that the prosecution is vague, politically motivated, and beyond proper U.S. jurisdiction.
00:12:55.640 But what would you expect a Chinese communist-affiliated company to ever admit is touchwary? Not by a long shot.
00:13:00.880 The significance here reaches beyond Huawei, this one Chinese company.
00:13:04.760 Huawei has become a symbol of the wider U.S.-China technology conflict because telecommunications equipment sits at the intersection of commerce, data, and national security.
00:13:16.460 The Trump administration began pressing allies to exclude Huawei equipment earlier, while U.S. sanctions restricted the company's access to advanced technology.
00:13:25.300 China responded by accelerating domestic chip development and reducing reliance on U.S. suppliers.
00:13:31.520 The trial now puts a narrow proposition before jurors, whether prosecutors can prove that Huawei, a Chinese company's rise, specifically included criminal conduct. 0.66
00:13:41.840 If a Chinese firm can be punished for theft, fraud, and sanctions evasions, this will give China a resounding message to stay out of our country and stop this effort to infiltrate every strata of American society. 0.93
00:13:53.700 This is their opportunity to shut the door on the Chinese menace and their infiltration efforts of our country once and for all. 0.98
00:14:01.520 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone. We'll be right back with more politics on 1.00
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00:14:58.860 The state of Texas has decided that students should learn about who carried out the 9-11 attacks, as well as the ideology that motivated them.
00:15:07.180 The State Board of Education approved revised high school social studies standards requiring students to describe 9-11 as motivated by a radical Islam, while also expanding instructions on early Islamic military campaigns, slavery, and jihad.
00:15:24.120 The standards, approved by an 8-4 margin, are scheduled to take effect in 2030.
00:15:28.860 Supporters say the language is an effort to teach history directly rather than soften difficult and thorny subjects.
00:15:35.820 Muslim advocates and some historians object that the standards risk presenting Islam disproportionately, but the truth hurts.
00:15:43.520 And if they want to change perceptions, perhaps they can start by rooting out terrorism within their own communities.
00:15:49.500 Islam is a global religion practiced by about 2 billion people, and it is just a fact that the 9-11 hijackers should be a part of that religion.
00:15:57.840 Explaining al-Qaeda without mentioning radical Islam is whitewashing the record and the truth.
00:16:02.820 That will only make us more vulnerable to threats in the future.
00:16:06.100 Texas is choosing explicit language where other school systems dominated by liberals would prefer broader terms such as terrorism or violent extremism,
00:16:14.980 while not really mentioning the ideology behind the attacks.
00:16:19.180 The choice will shape textbooks, classroom materials, and how students understand the attacks.
00:16:24.080 The left has dominated the school systems for too long, and using the classroom as a proving ground for ideology has to stop.
00:16:31.540 Now it's time for common sense to take over and start promoting the truth as well as the greatness of America and the values that will move our civilization forward. 0.95
00:16:42.480 I say calling out radical Islam is what happened on 9-11. 0.96
00:16:45.940 It is an excellent start, and I'm among those, along with Governor George Pataki, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the former president of the Port Authority Policemen's Association, John McDivitt, and others, calling on Mayor Zoran Miamdami to skip the 9-11 Memorial Services celebration, or I should say dedication, this coming September 11th. 1.00
00:17:15.220 The mayor has ignored this and has, after handing a pen for which he signed the declaration over to a radical Muslim lawyer who represented people connected to the 9-11 attack, has announced that he's going to attend.
00:17:30.500 I think that is a mistake. And I predict to you right here in the Stone Zone that there will be peaceful protests if the mayor shows up at the 9-11 ceremonies at the end of the week.
00:17:41.740 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone. We'll be right back with more. When we come back, we'll talk about what's going on in the Ukraine-Russia situation where the president has just sent his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and his longtime friend, Steve Witkoff, who have been successful in the past. Jared Kushner deserves credit for the Abraham Accords in the first Trump administration. Perhaps he can bring us peace in this war, too. Roger Stone on The Stone Zone. Be right back.
00:18:11.740 We'll be right back.
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00:18:45.020 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.
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00:18:59.200 Welcome back into the Stone Zone.
00:19:01.880 was President Trump has dispatched his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and his longtime friends Dave
00:19:07.560 Witkoff in shuttle diplomacy between Russia and Ukraine, and yet another bid to end that costly
00:19:14.040 and deadly war. The people of Ukraine are growing increasingly tired of President Volodymyr
00:19:19.740 Zelensky's corruption scandals and his internal disputes. A recent SOCIS survey, that's a poll
00:19:27.320 in the public company in Ukraine, conducted in late July and early August,
00:19:31.780 found substantial public dissatisfaction at the diminutive administration seems to fall apart.
00:19:39.600 Prosecutor General Ruslan Kravchenko resigned this week,
00:19:43.480 and made an anti-corruption investigation involving a subordinate accused of facilitating
00:19:47.900 a bribery and money laundering scheme within the Zelensky administration.
00:19:52.800 have not been charged yet, but earlier this summer, Zelensky's dismissal of popular defense
00:19:59.040 minister, Mikhail Fodorov, figured rare wartime protests in Kiev and previous attempts to weaken
00:20:05.860 anti-corruption bodies also produced public demonstrations before the government was forced
00:20:10.280 to change course. Now, of course, that means the Ukraine has turned against the war effort as they
00:20:15.400 remain united against the Russian aggressors. Reuters reports continued strong opposition to
00:20:20.760 territorial concessions by Ukraine. A recent poll found that 57 percent preferred waiting until the
00:20:27.680 war ends before holding an election, but still they're getting sick of Zelensky's shenanigans.
00:20:32.860 Corruption investigations, unpopular personnel decisions, and fatigue after more than four
00:20:38.440 bitter years of war are creating pressure that can no longer be suppressed. History is, of course,
00:20:44.400 replete with men in power who thought they were completely untouchable, who were then humbled and
00:20:48.620 dragged into the streets and brought to justice by their own people.
00:20:51.700 Perhaps if Zelensky does not want to join this list,
00:20:54.020 he should consider stepping down or holding an election
00:20:56.520 while he's still able to hightail it to Brussels
00:20:58.640 or some other globalist hub where he could still be welcomed.
00:21:03.020 Meanwhile, Bad Bunny's halftime show collected seven Emmys.
00:21:07.180 I can't believe it, but his ghettoized, third-worldest Super Bowl halftime show 0.98
00:21:12.460 has won seven Emmys, including one of the year's most argued-over 0.98
00:21:16.020 cultural spectacles of all time, turning into one of television's
00:21:20.220 most decorated live productions. Television Academy says the show
00:21:24.300 won all seven categories in which it was nominated, including outstanding
00:21:28.140 variety, special, directing, choreography, music direction,
00:21:32.380 lighting, sound mixing, and technical direction. The predominantly
00:21:36.140 Spanish-language performance drew widespread outrage as NFL
00:21:40.160 spit in the face of its most dedicated fans yet, once
00:21:44.300 again. It should come as no surprise the Emmys would reward this sort of vulgar display. It's
00:21:49.140 kind of their way of telling President Trump supporters this country is no longer theirs,
00:21:52.800 that the invading hordes have conquered, and that, well, the American people like us were powerless
00:21:57.600 to do anything about it except for sit back and watch. The contrast with the Turning Point USA's
00:22:03.640 all-American halftime show is revealing in a different kind of way. That counter-programming
00:22:09.280 by Turning Point USA, that is, the late Charlie Kirk's organization,
00:22:14.300 which featured Kid Rock, Brantley Gilbert, Lee Bryce, and Gabby Barrett,
00:22:19.200 opened with the national anthem and drew more than 6 million concurrent YouTube views.
00:22:24.640 That's impressive.
00:22:25.320 It demonstrated that a substantial alternative audience exists
00:22:29.460 for entertainment built around patriotism, country music,
00:22:32.860 and themes that leftists would rather bury.
00:22:35.740 In a fair and just world, of course, it is the all-American half-time show that would have won all these awards.
00:22:42.920 But just by competing and fighting back against the NFL, they show that there is a market for wholesome programming.
00:22:48.660 We have to continue to fight back and can never accept that we will be replaced by, in our country, no matter how many awards they give to bad money or any other vulgar cultural trash merchants out there.
00:23:00.740 Meanwhile, the Southern Poverty Law Center's federal criminal case will stay tied to the case of former senior official Heidi Barich
00:23:09.240 after a judge rejected the organization's attempt to split the two trials.
00:23:13.820 A federal jury has charged at the Southern Poverty Law Center with fraud, money laundering, and conspiracy offenses,
00:23:20.340 while a later superseding indictment added Barich as a defendant on conspiracy counts.
00:23:25.480 If I have to remind you, the Southern Poverty Law Center is the operation that would essentially fund neo-Nazi and Klan activities so that they could go out and then raise money to oppose them.
00:23:37.160 It was a massive financial political scam.
00:23:40.980 Prosecutors alleged the organization actually used fictitious entities and financial arrangements connected to payments involving extremists involved with groups like, oh, the American Nazi Party and the Ku Klux Klan.
00:23:53.580 Reminds me of something a retired FBI agent once told me.
00:23:56.620 He said if you went to a Klan meeting and there were 10 people,
00:23:59.180 eight of them would be federal FBI informants.
00:24:02.280 The Southern Poverty Law Center says those payments were legitimate
00:24:05.160 informant activity intended to combat extremism,
00:24:09.020 but very few, including me, are buying that rationale.
00:24:12.260 Both the organization and the former CEO, Bayrich,
00:24:15.800 have pledged not guilty to the charges.
00:24:17.660 U.S. District Judge Emily Marks ruled that a joint trial
00:24:21.000 would reduce the risk of inconsistent verdicts and move that trial to February 1st so that
00:24:26.180 Beavich's lawyers would have adequate preparation time, in my opinion, just delaying the inevitable.
00:24:31.580 The Southern Poverty Law Center spent decades influencing public debate by labeling organizations
00:24:36.860 and individuals they disagree with as extremists or hateful. I know I ended up on their list.
00:24:42.480 So did Charlie Kirk. So did many patriots. They said that Christian conservative groups
00:24:47.520 were, by definition, extremists. 0.63
00:24:50.160 Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA are a perfect example.
00:24:53.880 They fanned the flames while allegedly giving aid and support to the worst of the worst.
00:24:58.420 Prosecutors still have to prove the financial scheme they describe in a court of law, of course,
00:25:02.540 and the defense will have the opportunity to explain those payments in accounting.
00:25:06.160 But they've already been deemed guilty in the court of public opinion.
00:25:08.840 Their entire operation has been exposed to the public,
00:25:11.780 and they will never again get back that lost reputation or that ability to scam 0.56
00:25:16.520 the little old ladies who are sending in 25 bucks to fight the Klan.
00:25:20.420 Trump administration has defanged one of the most despicable leftist groups in existence, 1.00
00:25:25.420 and they frankly deserve kudos for this tremendous accomplishment.
00:25:29.360 Let the trial proceed.
00:25:31.980 Nearly a four-hour documentary about Elon Musk has premiered at the Venice Film Festival,
00:25:36.800 and its framing leaves little doubt that director Alex Gibney is yielding a hatchet
00:25:41.800 and wants to bring Musk down a few pegs.
00:25:43.740 The film, titled Musk, examines Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter X, government contracts, and Musk's political evolution, including his support for President Donald Trump.
00:25:55.620 Gibney has described Musk as an extraordinarily powerful figure, argues in the film that much of his influence comes from his ability to sell ambitious visions of the future.
00:26:05.100 The documentary includes sharply critical commentary, of course, including descriptions of Musk as a man who has, quote-unquote, lost his mind.
00:26:12.800 Musk wisely declined to participate and has called the project a hit piece.
00:26:17.040 I have some experience with Mr. Gibney, who once tried to do a documentary extolling the virtues of Elliot Spitzer, the governor of New York, who was later disgraced in a prostitution scandal.
00:26:30.860 So my view, Musk was probably wise not to cooperate because this was a hit piece.
00:26:36.720 This conflict is built into the film's marketing.
00:26:39.940 Musk is one of the most consequential entrepreneurs of the century,
00:26:43.100 with companies that have transformed electronic vehicles,
00:26:46.240 commercial spaceflight, and satellite communications.
00:26:48.880 But he's also a political actor,
00:26:50.740 owner of a major communications platform,
00:26:53.460 and a government contractor whose business intersects repeatedly
00:26:56.280 with public policy.
00:26:58.180 In my opinion, Elon Musk has done more for free speech
00:27:01.180 to the First Amendment than anyone
00:27:02.560 other than the founding fathers themselves.
00:27:05.640 By the way, you can find me at Roger J. Stone Jr.
00:27:07.880 That's Roger J. Stone, J-R. I'm over there at X, only because Elon Musk gave me my voice back.
00:27:15.160 Elon Musk is one of the most consequential men of our generation and frankly deserves the respect.
00:27:19.540 The documentary's framing will be evidence that the verdict is well written and well in advance.
00:27:24.260 It's a hit piece.
00:27:25.520 Musk committed the cardinal sin in the eyes of the leftist cultural movers.
00:27:29.520 He supported President Donald Trump and now he dragged through the mud for the rest of his life.
00:27:33.620 But here's the good news.
00:27:34.760 He has announced that his America PAC will spend at least $100 million on the upcoming 2026 midterm elections.
00:27:44.220 And because he is the richest man on the planet, it could end up being substantially more.
00:27:49.120 He's already poured a substantial amount of money into the Texas Senate race between Ken Paxton and James Tallarico.
00:27:55.640 That was just this week. I think there's more where that came from.
00:27:58.640 So, if you don't have to go see this documentary on Elon Musk, frankly, I wouldn't recommend it.
00:28:07.220 Nearly one year after Charlie Kirk was assassinated at Utah Valley University, his widow, Erica Kirk, has written about it and how it has impacted her family life.
00:28:15.660 In an essay for the New York Times, she recounts returning to their children, avoiding parts of the home she shared with her husband and learning to endure grief in small increments.
00:28:24.640 One piece of advice came from Usha Vance, wife of our vice president,
00:28:29.340 who told her to focus on getting through the next 15 minutes
00:28:32.700 rather than imagining the rest of her life at once.
00:28:35.640 Charlie Kirk was a very good to me.
00:28:37.280 He was taken, as you know, taken out by a shooter in Utah.
00:28:45.480 Erica Kirk has since taken over the leadership of Turning Point USA
00:28:48.520 while raising their children as the first anniversary of her husband's death rapidly approaches.
00:28:53.880 She's been a lightning rod for controversy since that day,
00:28:56.760 with many reprehensible conspiracy theories blaming her for her husband's death.
00:29:01.640 I find that despicable.
00:29:03.380 While criticism of Turning Point USA's direction in the post-Charlie Kirk era is warranted,
00:29:08.160 perhaps dragging a grieving widow through the dirt is low, even for today's politics.
00:29:13.320 The truth of the matter is that Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
00:29:16.440 It was done to shut him up and to make sure his influence on politics would no longer be felt.
00:29:21.380 The MAGA movement feels the weight of his absence every single day, as do I.
00:29:25.240 I didn't even know Charlie Kirk until he reached me and became an advocate that I be pardoned
00:29:30.320 when they sought to frame me in the Russian collusion hoax in which they wanted to send me to prison for seven to nine years
00:29:36.300 for covering up the Russian collusion that we now, of course, know never really happened.
00:29:41.900 But nobody hurts more over the loss of Charlie, of course, than his widow.
00:29:45.860 Their family will never be the same.
00:29:47.860 Years of memories have been robbed from them.
00:29:49.480 children will grow up without a loving father, and the left had their the way that would do it
00:29:53.800 to each and every one of us. Let's be candid. That's why we must stand up and fight for our
00:29:58.020 beliefs, because if we do not fight for our beliefs, we will curse ourselves later when
00:30:01.940 these socialists are in control. Meanwhile, King Charles, who is a great dresser, even though I
00:30:07.780 don't care for his politics, has sent the royal equivalent of a carefully worded office memo
00:30:12.880 to Prince Harry and Meghan that they should remain members of the family, but they aren't
00:30:18.460 to come back on the staff.
00:30:19.820 A letter issued the king's direction
00:30:21.800 to senior British government and military officials
00:30:24.720 reaffirmed that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
00:30:27.200 are non-working royals and should be treated
00:30:29.500 as private citizens in their commercial
00:30:32.180 and charitable activities.
00:30:34.260 Their HRH styles remain unused.
00:30:37.540 Their charitable work is not official royal work.
00:30:40.300 And the letter questions involving public resources
00:30:42.600 or formal representation
00:30:44.180 and how they'll be rooted through the palace.
00:30:46.780 Harry and Meghan are reportedly surprised how little advance note they received, given this note from the king.
00:30:53.380 Perhaps they thought they would be brought back in and could just take up where they left off.
00:30:57.960 Unfortunately for them, it appears that King Charles holds a grudge.
00:31:01.760 The modern monarchy survives by drawing a bright line between the crown as a public institution and relatives of the monarch who pursue private lives.
00:31:11.280 Harry and Meghan chose financial independence, commercial freedom, and they distanced themselves from their official duties in 2020 when they thought that was going to help their rise to stardom.
00:31:23.940 Turns out those calculations were wrong.
00:31:26.240 Now they're learning that independence does not preserve the privilege of representational authority attached to being a working royal.
00:31:32.620 The principle underneath the royal soap opera is kind of old-fashioned.
00:31:37.160 Public status comes with obligations, restrictions, and accountability.
00:31:41.840 Once somebody steps away from those obligations,
00:31:44.080 the institution has an interest in preventing private celebrity
00:31:47.560 from being confused with official authority.
00:31:50.180 And considering how quickly that celebrity has waned,
00:31:53.640 Harry and Meghan Markle in recent years,
00:31:56.220 they might be willing to cut their losses
00:31:58.020 and be living their lives in less privileged obscurity.
00:32:02.880 Meanwhile, President Trump has signed out Bombardier
00:32:05.520 in the escalating chide fight with Canada, saying that the Canadian aircraft maker
00:32:09.420 could lose access to American markets unless it builds more of its planes here in the United States.
00:32:14.800 His message is a reminder to all foreign companies that access to 340 million American consumers
00:32:21.000 is itself a national asset and that Washington can and should use that access to influence
00:32:26.860 where factories, supply chains, and skilled workers are located.
00:32:30.840 Bombardier says it already employs thousands of workers in the United States
00:32:33.940 and it spends heavily with American suppliers.
00:32:36.940 But any actual sales ban will require legal and regulatory implementation
00:32:40.760 beyond just a social media declaration.
00:32:44.060 But President Trump's strong words are kind of putting them on notice.
00:32:47.620 Like Theodore Roosevelt, Trump knows how to use the media to send a message.
00:32:52.280 Bombardier aircraft are embedded in American regional aviation,
00:32:55.760 and the company uses U.S.-made engines and a large American supplier network.
00:32:59.840 So a sudden ban would hit U.S. airlines, workers, and suppliers along with Canada.
00:33:05.000 The president knows that.
00:33:06.420 Senator Jerry Moran of Kansas has highlighted Bombardier's workforce in Wichita
00:33:10.760 and urged the administration to consider those ties.
00:33:13.840 But President Trump isn't afraid to use leverage at his disposal to help a marine manufacturing
00:33:18.020 even if it causes some short-term destruction.
00:33:21.060 This is just the president sending a message.
00:33:23.760 I'm Roger Stone.
00:33:24.680 You're listening to The Stone Zone.
00:33:25.940 Don't go away because, well, we'll be right back.
00:33:28.960 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:33:32.780 And he's a great, great person, Roger Stone.
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00:34:00.080 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.
00:34:04.020 Roger Stone was persecuted.
00:34:05.040 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
00:34:08.200 Now, get him a zone. It's the Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.
00:34:15.340 Welcome back to the Stone Zone.
00:34:19.520 Well, self-described Democratic Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders.
00:34:23.980 Notice how Bernie used to criticize millionaires and billionaires, but he no longer criticizes billionaires and millionaires.
00:34:32.120 He just criticizes billionaires. That's because Bernie Sanders and his wife became millionaires by skimming media placement fees off his two presidential campaigns, which, by the way, is not illegal.
00:34:44.140 The fact that he did not disclose it to his donors, I think, is immoral or at a minimum dishonest.
00:34:50.640 But Comrade Bernie, who talks constantly about wealth and oligarchs, attacks Elon Musk for being successful and wealthy, well, he's driving a top-of-the-line Mercedes, and he's got at least three homes, including one vacation home in Vail, Colorado.
00:35:06.200 He now has announced a new legislation that would ban artificial superintelligence.
00:35:11.680 It's called the Ban Artificial Superintelligence Act, legislation to permanently ban the development and deployment of artificial superintelligence.
00:35:20.640 The measure would also pause advanced AI until a cabinet-level regulator writes new rules
00:35:26.040 and threatens companies with so-called corporate death penalty and individuals with up to 20 years in prison.
00:35:32.900 The full text of Senator Sanders' bill has not yet been released.
00:35:37.000 This goes well beyond the AI oversight path already taking shape inside the Trump White House,
00:35:42.700 which includes voluntary pre-release federal reviews and talks about a government-supervised independent organization to conduct these reviews.
00:35:50.640 President Trump actually discussed this idea last month with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg.
00:35:55.920 That was widely reported at the time in Politico.
00:35:59.120 Trump administration's stated goals to keep the United States ahead of China, not to freeze the field while America invents a new bureaucracy.
00:36:07.500 Private American companies already poured enormous sums into advanced chips, computing and frontier models.
00:36:13.240 This administration's stated game is to keep that lead, not freeze it.
00:36:17.600 Sanders is reaching for a familiar play from the socialist playbook.
00:36:21.060 Take an emerging technology, declare the private sector too dangerous to be trusted, and hand power over some new federal agency.
00:36:30.420 His Ban Artificial Superintelligence Act would outlaw systems said to surpass human intelligence, threaten government overthrow, or resist a shutdown command.
00:36:39.940 Terms that are eased still fiercely consistent, even among some researchers.
00:36:43.500 The office summary also covers systems that match human-level performance across a broad range of tasks, and that can easily be modified to get there, not only systems, but already surpass humans.
00:36:55.740 Politico has noted that obvious political problems, defining superintelligence, getting ambitious legislation through a Congress that is barely in session, and the near-certain opposition of the labs whose models now drive their valuations.
00:37:08.820 Actually, Daniel Castro, president of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation,
00:37:14.700 slammed Sanders' proposal as a profound mistake that would only benefit communist China.
00:37:21.260 Advanced AI presents real questions that policymakers should continue to take seriously,
00:37:25.440 but its benefits are already tangible, while many of the most dire risks remain.
00:37:31.820 Totally speculative, he said in a statement.
00:37:34.060 America should lead in advanced AI instead of trying to ban it.
00:37:37.160 This is not Sanders' first attempt to hit the brakes. He was one of the first members of Congress to call for a national moratorium on data center construction, an idea later written into legislation along with Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. That idea has stirred bipartisan friction.
00:37:56.060 Here's the point about data centers. People oppose data centers for two reasons. One, they think that they will utilize local water causing a water shortage or that they will tap into the grid and therefore cause an increase in utility prices.
00:38:12.040 Here's what they don't understand, and that is any data center can be run with a closed-loop die-cut cooling generator
00:38:24.400 that does not utilize any incoming local water, and also a closed-loop to provide the electronic energy.
00:38:31.760 There are at least three technologies that are completely closed-loop,
00:38:35.660 meaning that a data center would not have to tap into the grid and would not cause an increase in the local utility rates for consumers.
00:38:46.640 Therefore, data centers need to be looked at in terms of both these two closed loop systems and then the jobs and the benefits are obvious.
00:38:55.300 I'm Roger Stone. Listen to the Stone Zone. I hope I cleared up data centers for you.
00:38:59.820 We'll be back tomorrow. Until then, God bless you and Godspeed.
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