The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - March 12, 2026


The Stone Zone ｜ 03-11-26

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oil geopolitics Trump Gavin Newsom California scandals
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Roger Stone Troy Smith Jake Novak
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Jeffrey Epstein Steve Bannon Donald Trump Hillary Clinton Gavin Newsom Kristi Noem Christopher Columbus Corey Lewandowski Ghislaine Maxwell William Kay Ronald Reagan David Schoen Nixon Virginia Giuffre Virginia Roberts Corian Ludendouski Miguel California James Bond Michael Dukakis Brendan Dilley and 24 more
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CPAC has invited Steve Bannon to be a featured speaker at their conference in 2020, and the reaction to the decision has been immediate and fierce. Is this a good or bad move, and what will it mean for the future of CPAC?

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00:00:00.000 this is the stone zone with roger stone people love him and respect him roger stone now get
00:00:17.720 in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone well there is more bad news for embattled
00:00:26.760 war room host Steve Bannon after the conservative political action committee announced that Bannon
00:00:35.000 would be a featured speaker there was a almost universal panning of that decision in light of the
00:00:42.060 recent department of justice emails that clearly demonstrate that Steve Bannon had an intimate
00:00:49.600 relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. And while he was posing on the air as a fierce Trump supporter
00:00:59.020 and an advocate for full disclosure in the global elitist doings of Epstein, he was in fact,
00:01:07.280 according to these email addresses, plotting openly to rehabilitate Epstein, talking to
00:01:15.400 speed about removing trump from the presidency under the 26th amendment and potentially replacing
00:01:24.120 him with a globalist mike pompeo he uh he bannon bragged openly about placing john bolton uh the
00:01:35.080 neocon warmonger who was never a great fit for trump's cabinet so what you have a cat turd 0.89
00:01:44.840 who says CPAC now has no credibility.
00:01:47.860 Brendan Dilley of the Dilley media team,
00:01:51.500 Warlord Dilley himself says, 0.98
00:01:53.300 this is why your garbage brand won't be around in five years. 1.00
00:01:57.220 Pathetic, grifting con men. 1.00
00:01:59.340 All of you. 1.00
00:01:59.900 Miguel California says, confirmed,
00:02:03.020 CPAC has no issue with Steve Bannon
00:02:05.140 befriending convicted pedophile and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.
00:02:09.760 Good to know.
00:02:10.940 He tagged American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp.
00:02:16.320 Jamie Mitchell says, ain't no way.
00:02:20.940 CPAC just did something even Bannon's best friends didn't do and committed suicide.
00:02:27.540 Cynthia Holt, I know this lady from New Jersey, she says that she asked,
00:02:33.000 Why is CPAC giving a platform to Steve Bannon at CPAC USA 2026 despite his well-documented close personal relationship with a convicted sex offender, child sex trafficker, and child rapist Jeffrey Epstein?
00:02:49.140 I first tracked the fact that after he got fired by the Trump White House in 2017, the New York Post reported seeing Steve Bannon entering Jeffrey Epstein's palatial home.
00:03:02.280 At that time, I think it was and may still be the most valuable or highest valued single-family home in Manhattan.
00:03:15.120 And I knew that there was some kind of dialogue.
00:03:17.780 I would then read additionally in the European press that Bannon popped up at Epstein's Paris apartment.
00:03:25.560 Now, from these documents released by the Department of Justice, we see that it's highly likely that Bannon also visited the island.
00:03:34.620 We see Jeffrey Epstein himself instructing his staff to book a commercial flight for Bannon to the U.S. Virgin Islands, where a small plane is to pick him up.
00:03:44.760 And Epstein is quoted as saying, Steve is staying with me.
00:03:50.520 So I don't know how Mr. Bannon expects to explain this.
00:03:55.700 I knew that they have a near revolt.
00:03:57.700 I know a lot about the Conservative Political Action Conference because, well, back in 2011,
00:04:03.440 I convinced a guy named Donald Trump that he should speak there.
00:04:08.000 The Conservative Political Action Conference is probably the single most influential gathering of conservatives,
00:04:14.180 or at least it used to be, starting in 1974.
00:04:18.160 Ronald Reagan spoke there famously.
00:04:21.200 In 2011, I engineered an invitation to Trump, who was thinking about the 2012 nomination.
00:04:29.620 And at that time, many viewed Trump as living in wicked New York.
00:04:34.860 They knew that earlier in his life, he had given contributions to Planned Parenthood,
00:04:41.220 and he had voiced some support for same-sex marriage.
00:04:47.000 Those are both issues that he would change over time as he became older and more conservative.
00:04:54.100 But he was a smash hit at CPAC,
00:04:58.620 and it really, I think, is the first time many saw the Trump magic within a political context.
00:05:06.220 And what's interesting about Trump's remarks that day were he criticized our NATO allies for not paying their fair share.
00:05:16.080 He said the trade deals like GATT and NAFTA and others had been great for our trading partners, but not great for the United States.
00:05:26.620 He complained that our military was being allowed to atrophy.
00:05:30.920 He was right about that.
00:05:33.180 He talked about waste, fraud, and corruption in government.
00:05:39.820 He's proven entirely correct about that.
00:05:44.240 So his consistency over time is really, to me, very surprising.
00:05:51.280 I don't know whether this furor over Bannon dies down.
00:05:55.900 There's a piece out today from Art Voice, which is a left-of-center publication,
00:06:02.180 But it makes the case that Bannon's financier, one Miles Guo, a Chinese nationalist, pled the fifth 50 times in a criminal prosecution when asked whether the money he provided to Bannon came from the CCP or about the role of one William G, G-E, in the transfer of these funds.
00:06:25.500 William G. is clearly identified on line, open sources, as a CCP party functionary.
00:06:36.280 And then out of that same prosecution, where Miles Guo, who was the financier of the Bannon media empire,
00:06:46.920 including evidently Real America's Voice, was prosecuted in a $1 billion fraud.
00:06:53.360 A fraud that Art Voice, a piece by Frank Parlato, insists that Steve Bannon is very deeply embedded in.
00:07:01.420 Now, Bannon, in the end, is an unindicted co-conspirator, but there are no charges against him, which is extraordinarily strange when you look at the size of the theft here, almost a billion dollars.
00:07:14.500 But what's even more interesting is that the telephone records from the case show that Bannon talked to this William G., who, by the way, is now a fugitive from justice, 132 times.
00:07:29.720 So why is Steve Bannon talking to a CCP functionary 132 times?
00:07:35.560 It is in itself fascinating.
00:07:37.800 Also, the enormous amount of money that Bannon pulled out, according to this piece at ArtVoice, I mean, in essence, Guo purchased a billion-dollar audience by paying $35 million to form the website Getter.
00:07:59.540 That was a Bannon-Guo project.
00:08:03.120 Another $57.6 million flowed from entities controlled by Guo's financial architect
00:08:11.820 into Bannon-affiliated operations.
00:08:14.860 So Steve put at least $57 million in his pocket.
00:08:19.500 Then there was another $270,000 wired directly to the war room broadcasting,
00:08:23.920 another $250,000 to Bannon Strategic Advisors for advisory services.
00:08:29.540 Another half million dollars moved to an entity the Bankrupt trustee identifies as a central
00:08:35.180 payment hub for other Bannon-related media operations.
00:08:39.080 So it is absolutely clear where the money was coming from.
00:08:44.860 A source with direct knowledge of the operation said Bannon received multiple individual checks
00:08:50.440 of $500,000 from an additional company called Soraka, a media entity connected to Gro's
00:08:57.200 operations beginning in 2018, a year before the FBI would ultimately raid and arrest Guo,
00:09:06.040 but not Bannon.
00:09:07.920 That happened on Guo's yacht.
00:09:10.700 The source says there are several such payments and that they were distinct from the $57.6
00:09:15.760 million traced through the bankruptcy filings that ended up in Steve Bannon's pocket.
00:09:22.320 So, according to Guo, he fled China in 2014 during an anti-corruption.
00:09:27.480 He kind of styled himself as an anti-CCP dissident.
00:09:31.500 But other times, he would attack Bannon for attacking the Chinese Communist Party in various videos.
00:09:37.700 At one point, he says the CCP is great.
00:09:40.400 They give you the tools to make your money.
00:09:42.920 The man who built a billion-dollar following on anti-CCP cement was openly pro-CCP in private.
00:09:50.960 Communism, he said, is better than capitalism, he told them openly one day.
00:09:56.720 Capitalism makes lazy people work 40 hours a week, while communism makes you work.
00:10:02.480 So the questions as to where Steve Bannon's finance is coming continue.
00:10:06.200 Again, I stress that, whoa, when asked under oath if his money was CCP money, pled the fifth, which is not proof that it is, but it is certainly a reasonable question.
00:10:18.320 In the meantime, we are watching Donald Trump assuring the nation that he is cognizant of the need to clean house when it comes to the regime, although I think he has used American power in a very limited and measured and lethal way.
00:10:43.200 It is undeniable that the Iranian regime is still filing rockets and drones, still trying to block the Straits of Hormuz. 0.65
00:10:55.040 The U.S. Navy has now finally been in orders to clear a lane through the Straits of Hormuz.
00:11:02.380 We know that the Iranian Navy was very badly damaged earlier, and it appears now that U.S. ships have been given authority to sink ships that would seek to impede the payment through the Straits of Hormuz.
00:11:19.180 President, Party General Michael Flynn said on my Sunday show that the U.S. Navy would make a short work of this if it became necessary.
00:11:28.140 But as you know, that is the choke point for 40 percent of the world's oil.
00:11:32.400 And it has, of course, been responsible for this bump up in the cost of gasoline, which, of course, Democrats are celebrating about because anything they think hurts Trump, they don't care about how it hurts the nation.
00:11:48.240 I do think that this will be a blip.
00:11:52.900 In fact, if anything, the way Trump has used oil as a political bargaining tool, political and economical bargaining tool, is really quite extraordinary.
00:12:03.340 He is now in the catbird seat in this hemisphere because in one fell swoop he got control of Venezuela's oil, which puts a real hurting on Cuba.
00:12:12.840 And also 80 percent of their output was going to China.
00:12:18.240 So when they say, oh, this is all about oil. Well, yes. And the geopolitical use of it by denying cheap oil to the Chinese, by denying Iranian oil to the Chinese and the Russians, he is blowing.
00:12:33.260 a massive blow against their abilities. The idea that China would even think about moving on Taiwan
00:12:42.820 when they have an immediate shortage of oil shows you the brilliance of Trump's long-term
00:12:49.680 foreign policy. But the way he combines military strength in a projected way,
00:12:54.900 economic pressure and leverage and diplomatic openness in a three-part foreign policy.
00:13:03.500 We haven't had this kind of foreign policy since Nixon played the Chinese off against
00:13:08.820 the Russians in order to get a strategic arms agreement for the United States.
00:13:14.820 You're listening to The Stone Zone.
00:13:16.520 I'm Roger Stone.
00:13:18.200 We'll be back with all the political news on the other side, so please don't go away.
00:13:24.900 I don't need a piece of wine
00:13:27.940 They come running just as bad as they can
00:13:32.600 Of every girl crazy about his shirt, there's me
00:13:36.560 Go watch that ring
00:13:47.880 I ain't missin' about a single thing
00:13:51.900 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:14:03.780 He likes politics and he's a professional at the highest level.
00:14:08.720 Roger Stone.
00:14:09.840 Where's Roger?
00:14:21.900 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:14:31.900 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.
00:14:35.820 Roger Stone was persecuted.
00:14:37.060 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
00:14:39.940 Now, get him a zone.
00:14:41.960 It's The Stone Zone.
00:14:43.980 Here's Roger Stone.
00:14:47.240 Tonight should be quite an evening.
00:14:49.620 I have the honor of being honored for the Florida chapter kickoff of the Italian American Civil Rights League.
00:15:00.980 That starts at 6.30 tonight.
00:15:05.140 You have to be a member.
00:15:06.500 In order to attend, you go to IACRL.org.
00:15:09.900 Now, this is a nonprofit organization.
00:15:12.420 We have no overhead.
00:15:13.840 Everybody involved is a volunteer.
00:15:17.380 here. But what we do is we stand up for Italian-American heritage, dignity, and our cultural
00:15:24.340 pride. We know that there are those out there on the left who like to erase the accomplishments
00:15:30.120 of great Italian-Americans in every field of endeavor, whether it was politics or whether
00:15:36.340 it was sports or whether it was the arts. Italian-Americans have played a very substantial
00:15:42.460 role in making this country great. And we're very mindful of this effort to erase Christopher
00:15:50.180 Columbus from our culture. The left tried to call Columbus Day Indigenous Peoples Day. President
00:15:56.660 Donald Trump issued a new and updated proclamation in which he said we would stick with Columbus Day.
00:16:03.540 And one of the things we do at the Italian American Civil Rights League is when a city,
00:16:08.320 a left-wing city tries to remove a statue of Christopher Columbus like the 76-foot monument
00:16:15.260 that stands in New York City, a 14-foot marble statue, or the one that's in Central Park or
00:16:23.740 Columbus Square Park in Astoria, Queens, or the statue of Christopher Columbus at Columbus Park
00:16:29.340 in Brooklyn. If anyone seeks to remove any of those, we would be in court in a heartbeat. That's
00:16:35.680 kind of good works we do. I'm honored to be honored tonight and to look forward to
00:16:40.420 seeing so many friends. There's a lot of Italian-Americans out there, but I think it was
00:16:47.260 Tony Fabrizio, the president's pollster, told me the subgroup of Americans who voted for Donald
00:16:53.540 Trump by a greater percentage than any other demographic in the country was Italian-American
00:17:00.640 Mexican males. There it is. I'm looking forward to a few meatballs tonight. Maybe I'll see you 0.99
00:17:06.240 there. You're listening to The Stone Zone. I'll be right back.
00:17:30.640 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
00:17:44.080 He likes politics and he's a professional at the highest level.
00:17:49.080 Roger Stone.
00:17:50.240 Where's Roger?
00:18:00.640 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest
00:18:13.940 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant
00:18:18.720 political analyst now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone you know i think
00:18:27.180 The Democrat Party's biggest problem they have going into both 26 and 2028 is that they have no bench.
00:18:35.700 Their front runner, strangely enough, would have to be Gavin Newsom, and that's only on paper now.
00:18:41.580 Newsom is a Getty. He's from one of the wealthiest countries in the world.
00:18:45.620 He also, as the governor of California, he can extort the special interests for millions of dollars of campaign funds.
00:18:56.200 And as I told President Trump the other night at Mar-a-Lago, he does have good hair.
00:19:01.380 I said great hair.
00:19:02.520 The president said, well, good hair.
00:19:04.220 Reagan had great hair, he said.
00:19:05.480 He's right about that.
00:19:07.460 But, I mean, his record is abysmal.
00:19:10.240 So what is he doing?
00:19:11.300 This is really incredible.
00:19:12.260 You can't make this stuff up.
00:19:13.260 He's going to spend $19 million in new taxpayer money on a marketing campaign designed to improve California's image nationwide,
00:19:22.380 despite the state facing a projected $3 billion budget deficit and being the world's largest outdoor toilet.
00:19:32.480 The homelessness issue, the open drug use issue, the tax issue, this is a public relations disaster.
00:19:45.260 But worse than that, they are just missing or have now established potential that $54 billion that was supposed to be put on housing has literally disappeared.
00:20:02.220 Another $30 million in COVID-related programs.
00:20:06.800 It appears to be another $30 billion in other health care frauds.
00:20:14.640 this money has simply disappeared and I don't know how you run for president when you have no
00:20:24.320 no records run on the high tax nature of it makes economic development and job creation
00:20:31.340 impossible the state so over regulates everything environmentally it is literally impossible to
00:20:38.280 build anything crime is zoring housing costs are zoring taxes are sky high and it is a scandal a
00:20:47.720 day in gavin newsom's california i'm kind of reminded of when michael dukakis the governor
00:20:54.760 of massachusetts ran for president i guess it was against george bush today his slogan was he'll do
00:20:59.880 for america what he's done for massachusetts and that's what people were afraid of and then of
00:21:07.880 course you have jb pritzker now jb pritzker is rich he is incredibly rich he's so rich
00:21:14.920 that he literally owns the every facet and every back alley of the democrat party in the state of
00:21:22.040 illinois he finances the campaigns of all the statewide office holders he finances the campaigns
00:21:27.720 of most of the state legislatures uh what we didn't tell us was that he was taking almost 20
00:21:34.440 million dollars into his so-called trust fund in contracts to companies that he owned and that he
00:21:43.440 had taken another 40 million in state contracts in other companies that he owned that were outside
00:21:52.900 his blind trust. I never understood this concept. I mean, Dick Cheney was the head of Halliburton.
00:22:01.960 He gave that job up to become vice president.
00:22:05.000 He put his Halliburton stock into his quote-unquote blind trust.
00:22:09.240 He lied us into the Iraq War.
00:22:11.600 Suddenly his Halliburton trust became worth hundreds of millions of dollars more.
00:22:16.660 How is his trust blind if he knows that it's there?
00:22:20.880 It is amazing that Gavin Newsom thinks that he can bamboozle the people in the country with some slick television campaign.
00:22:32.320 This is being done through the Governor's Office for Business and Economic Development,
00:22:37.140 which is currently seeking a private contractor to run this national messaging campaign.
00:22:43.060 The plan is a taxpayer-funded public relations effort for state and governments struggling with serious problems like high crime, housing costs, sky high taxes, a scandal a day, and an ongoing exodus of both residents and businesses.
00:23:01.920 And the money that's spent on, again, it's really to puff up the public image of Gavin Newsom.
00:23:09.360 It's really about California.
00:23:10.940 You saw Kristi Noem run into problems when it turned out that the Department of Homeland Security had given a $220 million media contract on a non-bid basis to a company that had been formed just a few days before that,
00:23:31.600 Transferring $183 million back to a company called The Strategy Group, which was owned by the political consultant who ran Christine Yolm's campaigns for governor.
00:23:43.960 And another $20 million non-bid award.
00:23:48.340 The award went to a Louisiana-based firm that certainly appears to be affiliated with Corey Lewandowski.
00:23:57.720 So this became a major factor.
00:24:01.400 Those ads, of course, if you saw them, had Kristi Noem riding a horse at Mount Rushmore.
00:24:10.620 And some were supposed to be cutting waste, fraud, and corruption.
00:24:13.980 This kind of self-important image-making, I think, was clearly designed to build some kind of political base.
00:24:23.080 If you saw the real ID calls, the TV commercials, they were Kristi Noem to camera.
00:24:31.400 I expect now there will be a gigantic investigation at the Department of Homeland Security
00:24:36.140 because it is very clear that the secretary misspoke or perhaps she lied before the committee
00:24:43.440 when she said that her paramour, a long time allowed, and fired Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski 0.65
00:24:51.540 He had no role in the agency's contracting, but substantial e-mail and text messages surfaced to show otherwise.
00:25:01.520 It is widely known that Lewandowski functioned as her de facto chief of staff.
00:25:08.240 They bought $300 million worth of aircraft for the use of the secretary, including one with a James Bond-style bedroom, I guess, so they could join the Mile High Club.
00:25:22.180 President Trump evidently was not aware of this upcoming expenditure.
00:25:26.780 There is a report, I think, in the UK Daily Mail today that says,
00:25:31.080 Corian Ludendouski is quoted as saying, I can do whatever I want.
00:25:34.380 Trump will pardon me.
00:25:36.220 I'm not so sure about that.
00:25:38.420 But I think at this point the only way that Kristi Noem could recoup
00:25:44.140 is dropping back
00:25:47.420 and challenging
00:25:49.120 the senator from South Dakota
00:25:51.340 whose name I believe is
00:25:53.360 Steve Rounds. Rounds is
00:25:54.860 one of the least talented politicians I've ever
00:25:57.380 seen. In a state like
00:25:59.000 South Dakota where Trump probably has
00:26:01.340 an 89% approval
00:26:03.320 rating, to be
00:26:04.440 an anti-Trump Republican
00:26:07.100 is extraordinarily 1.00
00:26:09.080 foolish. But 0.99
00:26:10.740 I've said this many, many times
00:26:13.160 As before, our problem today is not the left-wing, socialist, Marxist Democrats as authoritarian
00:26:22.480 and vicious as they are.
00:26:25.060 Our problem are the gutless, feckless, weak-kneed, lily-livered, white wine-swelling, country
00:26:34.720 club belonging, establishment Republicans who just don't have the belly for the fight.
00:26:41.720 They want to get reelected. They want the trappings of office, but they don't want to investigate whether Joe Biden was taking bribes as vice president.
00:26:51.460 And they don't want to investigate whether Dr. Joseph, Dr. Anthony Fauci was lying about taxpayer financing of the weaponization of the COVID-19 vaccine.
00:27:04.780 And they don't want to know whether Bill and Hillary are lying about their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:27:13.400 That certainly did not work out well.
00:27:16.700 I believe, based on my own sources, and I wrote this in my book, The Clintons War on 2015,
00:27:22.380 I believe Bill was actually having an affair specifically with Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:27:27.920 She was not, of course, underage.
00:27:29.900 But the idea that Bill never visited the island, that is false, according to the sworn testimony of Virginia Roberts Giffray, one of the victims who refused to pay Epstein, to take millions from Epstein and settle her lawsuit against him, went on to sue him, testifies that she saw Bill one night at a party and that Epstein had flown in to 17-year-old sisters for Bill's amusement.
00:27:58.060 She admitted she did not see any direct sexual activity between them
00:28:03.260 because she said she was removed from the party by Epstein
00:28:07.620 in order to service someone else at his direction.
00:28:12.440 But that is one of three women who all testified that they saw Bill on the island.
00:28:18.380 When Virginia Roberts-Guffray asked Jeffrey Epstein why Bill Clinton was on the island,
00:28:24.240 And Epstein smirked and said, let's just say he owes me a favor.
00:28:29.840 Hillary said they had no links, but in fact, Epstein provided the seed capital for the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative.
00:28:37.900 Hillary said that Bill was only on the Epstein plane a couple times for his charity.
00:28:47.140 That couple turns out to be 27, and I've never seen charity, so I don't know much about her.
00:28:52.800 It is also true, of course, that Epstein was a major contributor to the New York Democrat Party, a major contributor to Hillary Clinton, and because Elaine Maxwell is an honored guest at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
00:29:11.340 So this idea that they had no links is, of course, an absurdity.
00:29:16.880 The timeline here is important. Trump cuts Epstein off in 2004, late 2004.
00:29:23.840 That is before he's exposed and ultimately prosecuted in the Florida sex case,
00:29:30.560 in which he got a lesser charge and a shocking slap on the wrist.
00:29:36.080 And, of course, the period in 2019 when the Trump administration charged Jeffrey Epstein with child sex trafficking
00:29:43.920 and a second count of conspiracy to engage in child sex trafficking,
00:29:50.260 charging Ghislaine Maxwell, but no one else with those same charges.
00:29:55.980 That was in the Southern District of New York.
00:29:59.000 Of course, Epstein was awaiting trial on those charges when he turned up dead.
00:30:07.060 the family of Jeffrey Epstein
00:30:10.680 hired Dr. Michael Baden
00:30:13.420 one of the most respected pathologists in the country
00:30:16.960 long time New York medical examiner
00:30:19.280 a man who has seen many hanging cases
00:30:22.160 and Baden claimed in his
00:30:25.460 assertion that the
00:30:27.620 breaks in Epstein's neck
00:30:31.700 were not consistent with the manner in which
00:30:34.220 it was described that he had been hung
00:30:37.580 Today, there's a breaking story of one of the two guards suddenly having a $5,000 financial windfall just days before Epstein was killed.
00:30:48.260 We're expected to believe that both guards both fell asleep.
00:30:52.900 It was on a night in which the cameras just happened to not be working.
00:30:59.240 Now, we know that Epstein retained famed criminal defense attorney David Schoen because under the law, no matter how heinous you may be, you're entitled to legal representation.
00:31:12.680 He hired Schoen the Thursday before his death pay, I believe, agreeing to pay him a retainer of $1 million to begin the relationship and then allegedly killed himself two days later.
00:31:29.500 It makes very, very little sense.
00:31:31.900 We also know that Epstein had complained about being assaulted by another inmate.
00:31:38.180 Why they would not have Epstein, a criminal of this fame, in a case of this controversy,
00:31:45.340 why Epstein would not be alone in a cell under Guard 24-7 is a bit of a question.
00:31:55.420 The public fascination, I think, is running out with Epstein as they continue to come up empty-handed.
00:32:01.620 The left is reduced to creating fake AI videos that somehow implicate Donald Trump,
00:32:08.000 pointing to the fact that some unidentified person called an 800 tip line
00:32:13.860 and claimed that they were raped by Donald Trump when they were 13 years old.
00:32:17.140 Of course, they didn't leave their name or any specifics,
00:32:20.260 and an investigation found there was nothing to this.
00:32:24.460 But, of course, the media will recycle that over and over again.
00:32:27.880 And they don't want to tell you how many times Treasury Secretary Larry Summers went to Epstein's Island.
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00:32:44.920 Roger Stone.
00:32:46.040 Where's Roger?
00:32:57.880 This is the Stone Zone.
00:33:08.520 Now, get him a zone.
00:33:10.440 It's the Stone Zone.
00:33:12.420 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going,
00:33:16.360 and he's smart, and he's strong, and people love him.
00:33:19.360 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.
00:33:21.980 Roger Stone. Where's Roger Stone?
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00:33:25.840 You know, I was shocked last week when I read these new stories that a FBI whistleblower has come forward to say that the agency was monitoring a phone call between Trump campaign manager Susie Wiles and her attorney at the end of the presidential election.
00:33:45.320 That would mean that they were spying on President Donald Trump's campaign for president yet again.
00:33:51.340 And the same source said that they were monitoring communications, the communications of Kash Patel, who would later become an FBI director.
00:34:00.780 It reminded me that in that same time frame, the FBI approached my attorney to tell me that my own emails had been compromised,
00:34:10.460 particularly my email traffic with members of the Trump campaign, of which, frankly, there wasn't much because that was not my preferred method of communications.
00:34:21.040 And I wondered at the time who would seek to do that.
00:34:25.820 The FBI assured us that it was specifically the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
00:34:32.200 They were very specific.
00:34:33.760 But I wondered at that time whether perhaps it wasn't the FBI.
00:34:37.600 They spied on Donald Trump.
00:34:39.300 They used falsified evidence to justify it.
00:34:44.180 And the idea that they were spying on Suzy Wilde, this is shocking.
00:34:48.040 Shocking, and I'd like to learn more about this, because isn't that what they ran Nixon out of town for, the spying on his opponents?
00:34:57.100 So, and now I wonder whether those so-called intrusions in my own email, see, they explained it wasn't the content of the email that was interested in.
00:35:06.140 They were interested in using your email as an outgoing vehicle for a phishing link that if a target clicked on it would give whoever was doing this access to their entire computer.
00:35:21.580 I think a number of members of Trump's campaign were targeted with these phishing links, but I know nothing about that.
00:35:29.160 I do know that you should conduct your personal communications on the theory that everything you do, say, or listen to, or write will someday appear on the front page of the New York Times.
00:35:43.460 It is, but that is the world we live in.
00:35:47.080 It is amazing, again, just looking online, the way this Steve Bannon going to CPAC story is caught on fire.
00:35:55.980 Bannon's views at the war room reportedly now down to 7,624 views in last night's show.
00:36:06.460 This is a show that used to get hundreds of thousands of views.
00:36:10.760 I think really the issue here is hypocrisy.
00:36:12.800 Don't say on your TV show that everything should be disclosed about the Epstein records
00:36:18.080 and the global elites should be exposed.
00:36:20.840 And then when they are, find out that you are one of the global elites
00:36:24.280 And that you are coaching Epstein on how to erase the predator's sexual image, the telling him swiftly to lie.
00:36:34.000 If he's asked about the age of the girls he's pictured with, he should say they look young, but they were of age, which Epstein, which probably Bannon knows, of course, is not true.
00:36:45.880 At the meantime, he is leaning on Epstein to hook him up with all of his international schemings.
00:36:55.080 I mean, look, I like the president of Brazil, the former president of Bolsonaro.
00:37:03.600 On the other hand, I really think Steve Bannon's tutelage of his campaign may have cost him reelections.
00:37:10.880 It would not be difficult to see the level of cheating that took place in that election.
00:37:17.700 It's ironic that a member of his own family is now leading in the polls over the socialist, if not Marxist, government.
00:37:27.660 But in a time when Argentina and Chile and Honduras and now Venezuela and all these other countries are moving right, Bolivia, Paraguay, they're all moving right.
00:37:43.180 The only country in the continent that's moving left is Brazil.
00:37:50.860 Very, very strange.
00:37:52.480 We pray for the former president and for his family, but they are on the wrong side of history, and they will soon see that.
00:38:02.000 Then, of course, all eyes are tied to Cuba.
00:38:04.000 Everybody in my wife's family certainly focused on Cuba, President Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
00:38:11.140 Clearly up to something, both on a diplomatic and perhaps a more offensive front.
00:38:18.120 But now that they are being denied that cheap Venezuelan oil, it is it is a major pressure on the regime. Cuba Libre. Perhaps the regime is finally going to fall. Listening to The Stone Zone. I'm Roger Stone. Until tomorrow. God bless you and Godspeed.