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00:00:55.160 And I'm Jake Novak filling in for Roger Stone again this evening.

00:00:59.320 And as we say, as we start this hour, obviously we have a lot of breaking and developing news.

00:01:03.680 Just want to make sure everyone knows where we are with this whole shutdown thing and the TSA agents.

00:01:08.900 I think rightfully so.

00:01:09.960 I think actually the mainstream news media and the rest of the news media getting it right and emphasizing the fact that no matter what's going on right now between the House and the Senate and the White House, the TSA agents are going to get paid.

00:01:23.680 which presumably means they're going to start coming back to work in larger numbers

00:01:27.320 and will get these lines moving faster at all the airports

00:01:30.300 as opposed to at some of them one day, some of them another.

00:01:33.200 That, to me, is the real breaking story,

00:01:34.880 and there's a little bit of an added caveat to that

00:01:37.560 in that we really believe they're going to get their paychecks as soon as Monday.

00:01:42.000 I don't know why with direct deposit they can't get it on Saturday, but all right.

00:01:46.060 So that's really the biggest piece of news right now,

00:01:49.000 But that is still part of an envelope of a package that includes the fact that the partial shutdown continues.

00:01:56.340 Senate Republicans really caved to the Democrats on some of their demands about ICE.

00:02:01.260 They decided to just vote for it to try to get the DHS funded again in some way whatsoever.

00:02:07.760 Well, the House Republicans just not going for it, just not going for it.

00:02:13.020 And I think that House Speaker Mike Johnson put it really clearly here why they aren't going for it right now.

00:02:19.760 Listen to Speaker Johnson. This has to stop. The Republicans are not going to be a party to this.

00:02:25.860 They have taken hostage the funding processes of government so that they can impose their radical agenda on the American people.

00:02:32.180 And we can't have any part of it. This gambit that was done last night is a joke.

00:02:37.540 I'm quite convinced that it can't be that every Senate Republican read the language of this bill.

00:02:43.340 And I'm going to just read you one excerpt of it because it's pretty alarming.

00:02:47.420 And it says everything that you need to know in Section 4.

00:02:50.940 This is on page 2 of the bill.

00:02:53.040 This is an actual copy of the bill, that excerpt.

00:02:56.900 It says, quote,

00:02:58.800 The contents printed under the headings of this bill,

00:03:02.340 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Border Security Operations,

00:03:06.380 under the heading of U.S. Customs and Border Patrol and Protection

00:03:10.100 shall have no force or effect for purposes of this act

00:03:14.800 and amounts specified in the final bill

00:03:17.580 under the subheading Border Security Operations

00:03:20.500 and under the heading U.S. Customs and Border Protection

00:03:23.360 and under the headings of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement

00:03:27.700 and the Department of Homeland Security

00:03:30.000 shall be zero.

00:03:33.420 We're not doing that.

00:03:34.740 And it is unconscionable to me that the Democrats would force some sort of negotiation at three o'clock in the morning and try to hoist this among upon the American people and then get on their jets and go home for their holiday and pretend and think that we're going to go along with that.

00:03:49.440 Yeah, so no deal. And speaking of people getting on their jets and going home for the holiday, that includes Republican Senate Majority Leader John Thune caught at the airport.

00:03:59.740 I assume this was Reagan National Airport. Lots of videos circulating, confirmed videos circulating online.

00:04:06.360 Some people trying to ask him some questions. He's just moving along.

00:04:10.300 And Mike Johnson, you got it. This is a guy who has really weathered a lot of storms.

00:04:15.660 I know there's a lot of you listening don't like him, you don't trust him, you don't think he's MAGA enough.

00:04:20.780 Okay, but you've got to give him credit for, first of all, staying in office as long as he's had.

00:04:24.660 Remember, we just had revolving doors with the speakers of the House,

00:04:28.180 and he's been managing to get a number of bills passed with this razor-thin majority that he has.

00:04:34.220 And he's losing his patience here a little bit with his fellow Republicans in the Senate specifically, as you heard.

00:04:40.100 He's not the only one who's angry.

00:04:41.300 Chip Roy, who's another guy that MAGA World doesn't like all that much as far as a Republican.

00:04:45.900 He's a House member from Texas, but he also has some really strong words.

00:04:50.020 The next half hour, you'll hear what he had to say because he really backs up Johnson in a really interesting way.

00:04:55.720 Now, folks, I just want to take a little bit of a timeout just for one second here because it's 8.09 Eastern time.

00:05:00.840 We are now wrapping up the fourth week of a major U.S. war military action against Iran.

00:05:06.340 And isn't it remarkable that a government shutdown and TSA lines at the airport are the top story?

00:05:13.120 I mean, the war isn't even the top story.

00:05:15.620 Now, it's somewhat related to the story because, as a lot of people are correctly pointing out,

00:05:20.280 do we really want to have a Department of Homeland Security not fully funded at a time when we're going in a war against the world's number one terrorism country in Iran?

00:05:29.780 Well, you know, they're plotting stuff here on our homeland.

00:05:32.480 You know that.

00:05:33.040 but still we're talking about such a malpractice by congress right now and again it's the

00:05:41.500 democrats they have voted for and initiated this shutdown that is an objective fact you might

00:05:47.400 support that you might say hey i hate ice so much i believe in all the delusionary lies about ice

00:05:53.580 and i'm willing to burn the country down over it which has been the mo of the trump haters from

00:05:59.960 the beginning. You want to hate Donald Trump, you have every right to do so, but it's just amazing

00:06:04.160 how much they've gone from flipping the chessboard when they don't like Donald Trump to trying to

00:06:08.740 burn down the whole game room. This is another example of that. But I do want to get you updated

00:06:15.160 on a couple of things that are going on with the Iran war right now. First of all, a U.S. base in

00:06:22.900 Saudi Arabia, which is also shared with the Saudis, has been attacked. We're getting reports that

00:06:27.460 there are U.S. troops who were injured there. No reports of any troops killed. Four weeks into the

00:06:33.420 war now, we have 14 dead, 14 dead U.S. troops. One is too many. And I'm going to talk about,

00:06:39.780 though, the context of that kind of a number right now when we look at overall wars in history. And

00:06:44.320 I'll talk about that in the next half hour. But I think one of the biggest headlines today in the

00:06:50.060 war on Iran is that Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying that this is going to be a matter

00:06:54.660 of weeks not months before this war ends now does that mean that we're going to accept some kind of

00:06:59.380 partial victory does that mean that there's something big in the works no way to know that

00:07:03.480 and people who are speculating about that should probably not do that but definitely that was a

00:07:09.420 problem should have been an encouraging word i think from marco rubio for those people who are

00:07:13.920 legitimately worried not those who are trying to drum up fears without any facts behind them but

00:07:19.320 for those of you who are legitimately worried that this war is going to go on for months and

00:07:22.720 months and months you have to be encouraged by what marco rubio had to say now rubio was also

00:07:28.320 confronted on a tarmac today and asked about that trigger word that's being used against the united

00:07:34.500 states now just like it's been used against israel falsely in both in both cases the word genocide

00:07:40.160 here's what marco rubio had to say about that listen to this

00:07:42.860 The Iranian foreign minister would have said that the U.N. is accusing the U.S. and Israel of genocide.

00:07:51.720 The Iranian? Oh, okay. Well, he's an expert in genocide. 1.00

00:07:55.140 They're experts in that because, you know, they sponsor terrorism all over the world.

00:07:58.920 And they've killed thousands and thousands of people.

00:08:02.260 Look at the Middle East. Look at the Middle East, guys. 0.59

00:08:04.800 Every problem in the Middle East tracks back to Iran. 0.99

00:08:07.460 Hezbollah? Iran. 0.71

00:08:09.060 Shia militias that are destroying and threatening Iraq, Iran.

00:08:13.220 Hamas, Iran. 0.58

00:08:14.640 The Houthis, Iran.

00:08:16.740 The Assad when he was in Syria, Iran. 0.69

00:08:21.520 The only kind, the way, I mean, everywhere you turn, they're behind all of them.

00:08:25.180 They are a destabilizing, dangerous, evil force that had to be dealt with.

00:08:29.660 They have to be weakened.

00:08:31.280 You know, when you're dealing with political debates in America today, probably all over the world, this isn't just an American thing.

00:08:39.280 I always struggle with this.

00:08:40.640 Am I dealing with someone who's an idiot?

00:08:42.460 I mean, really not educated, doesn't know what the meaning of words are, like genocide.

00:08:46.480 Genocide means the deliberate erasure of a people.

00:08:51.380 And I'd say it's not doing any of that.

00:08:54.000 Israel's not doing any of that.

00:08:56.860 The Islamist terrorists are trying to do that. 0.95

00:08:58.940 They've been unsuccessful.

00:08:59.780 Well, with the exception of killing their own people. 0.82

00:09:02.700 Islamist terrorists kill more Muslims than Christians and Jews combined every single day of the week.

00:09:08.500 the kind of if you do it to yourself as a genocide i guess so self-genocide

00:09:13.500 but when you're fighting against terrorists and and targeting military targets and terrorist

00:09:20.720 targets that's not genocide that's not a partisan statement that's just a dictionary definition

00:09:26.040 of what genocide is and what it isn't i have to tell you i never know or hardly ever know when

00:09:32.840 i'm talking to someone about that whether they're just deliberately lying knowing what genocide

00:09:36.960 means and twisting it and trying to use it as a trigger word you know why they use that word

00:09:41.460 because the real victims of the worst genocide in human history the holocaust 0.64

00:09:46.240 still feel tremendously wounded about it and their children feel tremendously wounded by it and their

00:09:52.320 grandchildren feel tremendously wounded by it and it's a way to rub salt in a holocaust wound that's 0.84

00:09:57.560 why they use it they love to accuse the victims of the crime for which they are a victim of that's

00:10:02.520 an added torture that's why they do it but there also are some legitimate people who don't know

00:10:08.740 what genocide is so i always wonder about that and rubio wasn't having it rubio could have further

00:10:14.860 explained that the real genocide people people trying to commit genocide are the islamist who

00:10:19.360 make it very clear they want to kill all the jews and don't want to live with any jews that's 1.00

00:10:23.720 genocidal talk you've never heard any legitimate leader of israel or their military say let's get

00:10:29.080 rid of all the Muslims they just don't that's not the policy the official policy of Israel

00:10:35.220 it's not the official policy of the United States I shouldn't have to explain all of this

00:10:38.840 but that's the way things are going right now well when we come back we're going to talk we're

00:10:44.440 going to talk about Ilan Omar because Vice President Vance is talking about her and

00:10:48.260 another congresswoman a Democrat congresswoman from another state and they're both doing something

00:10:53.500 a comment they're playing the race card they're playing the islamophobia card we'll be right back

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00:11:17.680 And I'm Jake Novak filling in once again for Roger Stone.

00:11:30.080 Thank you so much for joining us on all the stations and podcasts and all the different outlets you can use to listen to this program all over the world, not just in the United States.

00:11:39.980 About 50 minutes after the hour, 50 minutes after the hour, I'm going to talk a little bit about Jim Farley.

00:11:46.220 He's the CEO of Ford.

00:11:48.440 Not really going to bash him necessarily, but wait until you hear two things.

00:11:51.600 Wait until you hear how much he was paid for 2025 and wait until you hear why he was paid so much.

00:11:59.260 Some folks really know how to stack the deck.

00:12:01.600 Let's put it that way.

00:12:03.200 Ilhan Omar, the congresswoman from the Minnesota, Minneapolis area in Minnesota.

00:12:08.680 We all know who she is.

00:12:09.940 Somali immigrant, intense, intense critic of President Trump.

00:12:15.000 big supporter of Hamas

00:12:17.220 big supporter of

00:12:19.300 terrorist groups all over the world

00:12:21.000 potentially on the payroll

00:12:23.460 of Qatar and other groups that

00:12:25.060 act as clearing houses

00:12:26.640 for Iran etc etc

00:12:28.780 and as we learn

00:12:31.340 more and more potentially a major

00:12:33.340 linchpin figure in all the fraud 1.00

00:12:35.300 that's been uncovered

00:12:36.200 in Minnesota

00:12:38.080 this calendar year remember when that was a big

00:12:41.360 story a whole seven eight weeks ago

00:12:42.940 feels like a million years ago doesn't it

00:12:44.980 Well, Vice President J.D. Vance is talking about one of the biggest controversies about Ilhan Omar, which I have to admit, when I first heard this controversy, oh, I want to say it was like seven years ago, I thought it might be a trumped up thing, a phony thing.

00:13:02.120 But, you know, her responses to it over the years have only made it clearer that it's probably very well based in fact.

00:13:09.580 Well, here's what J.D. Vance had to say about it just today.

00:13:12.300 Listen to this.

00:13:12.740 About Ilhan Omar and Tim Wally, obviously Ilhan Omar, the president and the White House have been out saying she married her brother, that there is immigration fraud going on here.

00:13:23.160 These are deportable denaturalization offenses. Can you give us an update on that?

00:13:28.080 Yeah. So we actually think that Ilhan Omar definitely committed immigration fraud against the United States of America.

00:13:33.940 And I talked to Stephen Miller about this actually recently. We're trying to look at what the remedies are.

00:13:38.820 That's the thing that we're trying to figure out is what are the legal remedies now that we know that she's committed immigration fraud?

00:13:44.780 How do you go after her?

00:13:46.060 How do you investigate her?

00:13:47.000 How do you actually do the thing?

00:13:47.960 How do you build a case necessary to get some justice for the American people?

00:13:53.480 There's a related issue, Benny, which is she has been at the center of a lot of the worst fraudsters in the Somalian community. 1.00

00:14:00.680 So do I know that Ilyana Omar was aware that the Quality Leering Center was defrauding the American people?

00:14:06.780 I'm not certain of it, but we at least need to investigate it, because if people can commit wrongdoing without even the fear that they're going to be found out, that's a fundamental problem.

00:14:18.000 So I'm worried about the immigration fraud. 0.71

00:14:19.980 I'm also worried about what did Ilhan Omar know about what was happening in the Somali community and why was nobody looking into it until, frankly, Donald Trump came along.

00:14:29.380 So there you hear the vice president connecting these two things.

00:14:32.200 the allegation against Ilhan Omar that she married her own brother.

00:14:36.860 And by the way, no one is saying she actually married her own brother,

00:14:39.440 like lived with him and had a ceremony.

00:14:40.640 They're saying that she married him in a civil document kind of way

00:14:44.480 and put him down as her husband so that she could get him into the country,

00:14:50.440 that she could get into the country.

00:14:52.940 And I've seen the documents.

00:14:54.660 Now, they could be incorrect.

00:14:55.860 Who knows?

00:14:57.120 But I can tell you that every time Ilhan Omar has been asked about this specifically,

00:15:00.660 she never denies it.

00:15:01.640 She just says, I'm not going to respond.

00:15:03.680 And then she claims Islamophobia and gets all upset. 0.86

00:15:06.580 I don't know.

00:15:07.040 If anyone ever accused me of marrying my sister, I would say, that's ridiculous.

00:15:11.740 I never married my sister, not civilly or religiously.

00:15:15.240 Don't worry about it.

00:15:16.140 And then I might push back and say some other things.

00:15:19.220 But I'd have no problem saying that.

00:15:20.560 And I noticed that she's never said that.

00:15:22.320 That's a problem.

00:15:24.160 She either has a bad lawyer or she doesn't know how to lie as well as she thinks she does. 1.00

00:15:28.120 so that's a story that's percolating right now don't know where that's going to go you know

00:15:34.540 there's going to be a huge human cry if she is charged with immigration fraud but if the documents

00:15:39.880 prove it uh you know it's just going to take a bunch of judges who won't who won't who throw

00:15:44.900 out the prosecution until it gets to the supreme court and we're going to waste our time with this

00:15:48.940 nonsense i don't think it's a waste of time to go after ilan omar for a bunch of the things that

00:15:54.040 she's doing i'm just saying that the legal system is going to make us waste our time and not allow 1.00

00:15:58.820 us to punish someone who probably did commit immigration fraud and it's gross i know she

00:16:04.640 didn't really really marry and have you know consecrate consummate her marriage to their 0.98

00:16:11.060 brother i'm not accusing her of that i hope i didn't do that but it's still gross my goodness

00:16:16.980 anyway she's not alone now we also have congresswoman sheila sheriffillis mccormick

00:16:22.540 She is a Florida Democrat who, in a very unusual thing these days, she just got found guilty of 25 ethics violations.

00:16:31.920 What was unusual about it is that they went through a whole hearing.

00:16:33.980 Here she is denying all the charges, even though she was found guilty.

00:16:38.000 Well, it's an unjust indictment, and it seems like these intimidation tactics have been pervasive.

00:16:42.860 We spent all week seeing different members getting censured, all in hopes of intimidating and kind of distracting from the Epstein files.

00:16:50.080 And I look forward to my day in court so I can prove myself and actually state the truth.

00:16:54.060 But if this is what Congress is becoming, where they're always trying to intimidate you, scare tactics, especially attacking minorities, black and brown people, then we're going to have to keep fighting for the district.

00:17:02.800 And everybody has been giving me so much support and we're going to keep fighting until the district gets what it needs, which is fair prices, housing and fair representation to Congress.

00:17:12.060 Listen, there were 25 violations, but to make it clear, the big one is that she is found guilty, according to the Health Ethics Committee, of stealing COVID funds to buy herself expensive jewelry.

00:17:21.120 There were other things, too.

00:17:22.520 So that's what that was all about.

00:17:24.800 And boy, did she throw the kitchen sink in, everything but the kitchen sink in her answer? 0.99

00:17:28.580 Black and brown people, the Epstein files.

00:17:30.900 I'm surprised she didn't say the X files, the truth there's out there.

00:17:34.220 I mean, she just threw everything out there other than to specifically deny the charges.

00:17:38.400 She didn't say anything.

00:17:39.140 She didn't say, oh, I didn't buy that jewelry.

00:17:40.340 Again, that's what I would say if I were innocent.

00:17:43.000 All right, I'm going to get back on the stones in here.

00:17:44.900 We're going to get you updated on the top stories because a lot of stuff's moving on.

00:17:48.200 And I'm going to let you listen to another governor out there or find out about another governor, Abigail Spanberger. 0.68

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00:18:28.660 The Stone Zone.

00:18:30.680 Entertaining and informative.

00:18:32.820 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:18:34.900 and I'm Jake Novak

00:18:37.020 filling in for Roger Stone this evening

00:18:38.800 and we have a little bit of breaking

00:18:40.780 I would call it breaking slash developing news

00:18:42.960 all the DC area airports

00:18:45.480 BWI, Dulles

00:18:47.100 and Reagan National in a ground stop

00:18:49.280 may just be getting lifted now

00:18:50.940 it was some kind of an issue with air traffic

00:18:53.160 control, operational issue

00:18:54.980 this they need like

00:18:56.760 there's only a Yiddish word for this

00:18:58.200 this they need like a loch and cup

00:19:00.520 which means like a bump on the head

00:19:01.820 honestly this is not what they needed

00:19:04.820 right now uh hopefully that situation is being cleared up but the good news is we know for sure

00:19:10.260 now that at monday as early as monday tsa agents are going to start getting those paychecks again

00:19:15.320 including the back pay that they're due after all this democrat voted for and instigated partial

00:19:22.820 shutdown funding for the department of homeland security now that doesn't mean that we're going

00:19:28.020 to have all the lines at all the airports disappear on monday but it should start getting

00:19:32.300 better with the TSA agents, more of them coming back on the job. Maybe even some of them who quit

00:19:37.100 will come back. Doesn't really matter that they quit when they weren't coming in and getting paid.

00:19:41.100 They should be. Hopefully they'll get some grace there. We'll see what happens.

00:19:45.500 That's what's going on at the airports right now. And it just is amazing to me, isn't it,

00:19:51.340 that this is the number one story in America at a time when we are fully engaged in a big war with

00:19:55.560 Iran. Quite, quite impressive. It's actually quite embarrassing. It should be embarrassing 1.00

00:20:01.760 that congressional screw-ups, Democrat screw-ups with our funding

00:20:06.940 have become so bad that it outranks the war as the number one story.

00:20:12.760 I mean, it really is the top story right now,

00:20:14.240 this whole shutdown and the TSA agents

00:20:16.120 and what's going on at our airports just for now.

00:20:19.820 Here's Congressman Chip Roy, a Republican from Texas,

00:20:23.260 explaining why the House was not going to accept

00:20:25.960 this other way around the shutdown that House,

00:20:29.600 Sorry, Senate Republicans gave into late last night.

00:20:32.760 House Republicans showing a lot more backbone.

00:20:34.720 One of them was Chip Roy. Listen to him.

00:20:37.280 Hey, everybody, it's Chip Roy here from Texas 21.

00:20:39.580 And what the Senate just sent over to the House is so laughably bad.

00:20:43.280 We're rejecting it out of hand.

00:20:44.920 They sent over a bill that's not going to fund ICE and Border Patrol and stand with the great men and women who are defending our country.

00:20:50.460 We reject that. We're going to stand alongside our law enforcement personnel.

00:20:54.440 We're going to have a full throated debate. We're deciding what we're going to do.

00:20:56.960 But suffice it to say, we need to stand with those who are standing up for us to defend our country.

00:21:02.160 We need to fully fund them.

00:21:03.620 We need to consider voter I.D. and other things to make our country safer and better.

00:21:07.480 But we're not going to we're not going to move this Senate bill.

00:21:09.540 We're going to move something better and send it back to the Senate.

00:21:11.820 We have to.

00:21:13.180 Yeah, that's Chip Roy.

00:21:14.480 And he does a good job of explaining in the last half hour.

00:21:17.820 You heard Speaker Mike Johnson doing a good job of explaining the Senate Republicans gave up just too much.

00:21:23.340 And one of the people really taking it on the chin and maybe even right smack in the nose over this is Republican Senate Majority Leader John Thune, who is all over the Internet right now, confirmed videos of him leaving town, leaving D.C. before that ground stop and getting out of town before the Save America bill is passed, before they really resolve this DHS shutdown of the Democrats.

00:21:46.480 And yes, it is the Democrats' ultimate responsibility.

00:21:49.660 They started this and they kept voting to keep this shutdown going, this partial shutdown going.

00:21:54.760 But for Thune to leave is a very bad look.

00:21:58.400 He must have had a really, really good...

00:21:59.840 I mean, honestly, short of my daughter's weddings or the birth of a grandchild, I wouldn't be leaving town.

00:22:06.340 I don't know if he has daughters or grandchildren, probably does.

00:22:09.240 John, you made a mistake here.

00:22:10.600 And your handlers, your political consultants, fire them because they shouldn't have let you do that.

00:22:17.920 It's as simple as that.

00:22:18.760 Now, still a huge story, even though it's the number two story, which is hard to believe, is the Iran war.

00:22:24.120 We're getting reports that a U.S.-Saudi base in, of course, Saudi Arabia hit by Iran this evening.

00:22:31.620 We have reports of American injuries, no deaths.

00:22:35.200 So we're still at 14 deaths, and one is too many.

00:22:39.360 Anybody who's listening to me now thinks I'm making light of the amount of deaths in this war,

00:22:43.760 really, just shove it.

00:22:45.080 That's just not what's going on here, and you know it.

00:22:47.500 But I want everyone to get back to reality here in America,

00:22:50.640 because I keep hearing people telling me, oh, this is a quagmire.

00:22:53.300 You don't know what quagmire means.

00:22:55.240 I keep hearing, I've heard some people saying this is our Vietnam.

00:22:58.020 After four weeks?

00:23:00.280 I just wanted to give you some mathematical context, because, you know, the party of science.

00:23:04.500 Math is a science, by the way. Did you know that?

00:23:06.000 anyway here's a little bit of math for you now before the afghan war which we technically fought

00:23:12.860 for 20 years in this country the vietnam war was the longest war in this country we started

00:23:17.000 military action small amount in 1959 went all the way through 1972 73 longest war we had i'm just

00:23:24.620 going to say for argument's sake and to round things out that we were there for 13 years

00:23:29.200 13 years is 676 weeks to be exact

00:23:33.560 we lost 59,000 more than that but I'm going to round it

00:23:38.220 59,000 US servicemen and women in the Vietnam War

00:23:41.920 that's an average of 87 dead for each one of those 676 weeks

00:23:46.800 we've been fighting Iran a country that has more people than Vietnam 1.00

00:23:51.840 a country that has been preparing for war and war alone for 47 years

00:23:56.640 longer than Vietnam was 0.97

00:23:57.860 and with better weapons than Vietnam had.

00:24:01.800 We've been fighting them for four weeks

00:24:03.360 and we have 14 dead.

00:24:04.620 One is too many.

00:24:06.140 I will never make light of even one death

00:24:08.140 or serious injury.

00:24:09.920 Of course I won't.

00:24:12.680 But to compare it to Vietnam,

00:24:14.800 to compare it to a quagmire,

00:24:16.880 again, it's just like that conversation we had

00:24:19.060 just a few minutes ago about genocide.

00:24:21.120 Am I talking to someone who is so uneducated

00:24:23.340 that they don't know what quagmire means

00:24:25.140 or they don't know what the Vietnam War was?

00:24:27.860 Or am I talking to someone who does know those things and they're just being intellectually dishonest?

00:24:33.900 You never know in America today, especially when you're online and you're not really speaking with the person face to face.

00:24:39.000 You'd never know.

00:24:41.500 Now, one of those people that I don't ever seem to know what she's talking about, whether she's being honest or not,

00:24:49.400 I understand what she's talking about, but whether she's just being obtuse for you Shawshank Redemption fans.

00:24:55.800 I can't believe you're being so obtuse, Warden.

00:24:58.180 Remember what happened to Andy Dufresne after he said that.

00:25:00.640 I don't know if Governor Abigail Spanberger of Virginia is just being obtuse.

00:25:06.700 Or, since she's a former CIA agent or analyst, she's probably not being obtuse.

00:25:11.620 She's probably just being mighty dishonest.

00:25:13.920 Now, there was a woman in Virginia, Stephanie Minter, who was killed at a bus stop by an illegal alien just recently.

00:25:21.520 And there was a reporter who finally got a chance to ask Governor Spanberger about that and whether she's still anti-ice and still has nothing to say about this.

00:25:31.360 Here's that exchange just today.

00:25:33.880 Hey, Governor, welcome to Culpeper.

00:25:36.660 Governor, what is your message to Stephanie Mentor's family?

00:25:40.500 What is your message to Stephanie Mentor's family and children who have been harmed by illegal immigrants, Governor?

00:25:45.920 My question would be why, when there was a detention in a deportation order, ICE did not deport him.

00:25:52.940 ICE had him in custody for 700 days, Governor.

00:25:55.780 And an immigration judge would not allow him to be deported to Sierra Leone.

00:26:03.140 Now, was Governor Spanberger just being obtuse, Warden?

00:26:08.360 Or was she deliberately lying, knowing darn well that a judge didn't allow for the deportation?

00:26:14.000 This is incredible.

00:26:14.680 You have law enforcement officers in this country doing their job, risking their lives to apprehend people, put them in detention, try to deport them, only to have judges not only block it, but then have the politicians who support that blockage pretend that it's ICE's fault for not doing the deportation.

00:26:32.200 I mean, gaslighting isn't a good enough word for this.

00:26:34.760 And I hate that word, by the way.

00:26:35.660 It's overused.

00:26:36.680 I'm sorry I even used it.

00:26:37.620 I'm going to find myself a dollar.

00:26:40.020 The level of dishonesty here is beyond measure.

00:26:44.680 beyond measure.

00:26:47.800 What's going on in Virginia right now

00:26:49.380 has been documented by so many people

00:26:51.920 is just the absolute robbery

00:26:54.220 of due process in that state,

00:26:57.120 the absolute,

00:26:58.780 just one horrific thing after the other.

00:27:01.400 And I hope that all the Republicans there

00:27:03.520 or all the people in Virginia

00:27:04.920 who voted for Donald Trump

00:27:06.020 but didn't vote for Winston Earl Sears

00:27:07.580 are happy with this result.

00:27:10.660 I don't know what was wrong

00:27:11.540 with Winston Earl Sears

00:27:12.500 that you didn't give her her vote.

00:27:15.480 I hope it wasn't because she was a black woman. 1.00

00:27:17.600 And as Republicans, you won't vote for a black woman. 1.00

00:27:19.600 I haven't found that to be the case.

00:27:21.960 I heard that they were Trump supporters who didn't think she supported Trump enough.

00:27:25.700 I don't know what the reason was, but there's no reason why you chose the Spanberger over her.

00:27:30.420 And now you're really paying for it.

00:27:32.480 You're paying for it with a redistricting battle.

00:27:34.620 You're paying for it with the loss of your Second Amendment rights, many of them in Virginia, tax raises.

00:27:39.920 you're also paying for it with a complete backtracking and just abrogation of a promise

00:27:46.200 that Spanberger made to make affordability remember her her election issue was affordability 0.98

00:27:50.780 affordability affordability everything she's done has made it more expensive Virginia including 0.99

00:27:56.060 holding up a natural gas plant that would lower the cost of energy in that state her top energy

00:28:03.520 guy chief energy officer blocking the opening of a natural gas plant yeah this is so funny

00:28:08.840 you know how the crazy environmentalists say we have to cut emissions by 50 percent we have to

00:28:14.220 cut emissions by this percent that percent i can do that for you at the snap of my fingers just go

00:28:17.760 to natural gas if you replace coal fire plants with natural gas you cut 50 emissions if you

00:28:24.940 replace oil-based plants with natural gas you cut emissions by something like 20 30 big emissions

00:28:29.940 cut but it's still a fossil fuel and it's still those white republican men oil companies and we

00:28:34.740 don't like that. We would rather destroy the world. This is nihilism. Listen, I want to have

00:28:41.140 a cleaner environment, although I'd like for us to go back to 1970s like pollution reduction,

00:28:45.700 where we're literally picking up litter, stopping dumping in our oceans. To me, that's a much bigger

00:28:50.440 environmental threat than emissions, than CO2 any day of the week, because that's something that we

00:28:57.200 humans can actually make a difference. You know, the most honest scientists will tell you, we don't

00:29:02.060 really know if we can make any difference in the changing of our of our temperature we've been

00:29:05.640 trying to do that since the pagan times and we would sacrifice babies in the hopes that we would 1.00

00:29:09.180 get a rainy day or not a rainy day i think that we're just as futile when it comes to that but

00:29:13.500 what isn't futile is cleaning up our oceans cleaning up our park lands that was something

00:29:17.960 that i was brought up with and and it seems like no one's talking about that anymore and believe

00:29:21.980 me you walk around some of the public lands in this country right now we could use some cleaning

00:29:25.320 up or the whole medical waste that was washing up on our shores in the mid to late 80s whatever

00:29:31.540 happened to concerns about that did they solve that problem i don't think they completely solved

00:29:34.660 it i hope so but anyway this is nihilism this is basically they don't want anything they really

00:29:40.800 want us to go back in caves they want to severely reduce the number of people on this earth

00:29:45.300 which has never really truly been proven to be the actual source of a problem have you ever

00:29:50.460 noticed that the the countries that are suffering from quote overpopulation problems are also the

00:29:55.680 countries with the most corrupt leaders and dictators and horrible human beings

00:29:58.920 maybe that has something to do with it

00:30:01.700 anyway

00:30:03.320 it's nihilism they don't want anything to be done

00:30:06.260 they don't want any kind of progress

00:30:07.940 I do have some good news

00:30:10.140 for you though going a little bit further south

00:30:11.880 from Virginia to Georgia

00:30:13.300 that today was a big day in this whole

00:30:16.120 effort to try to prove

00:30:17.340 if or if not there was any major

00:30:20.020 election fraud in the 2020 election

00:30:21.860 in Georgia

00:30:22.580 you'll recall that the FBI sees tens of

00:30:26.020 thousands of ballots from Fulton County

00:30:27.740 that really really fishy vote count there remember they had a pipe burst they had all those ballots

00:30:34.920 that they didn't verify etc etc and the fbi was able to seize tens of thousands of those questionable

00:30:39.560 ballots fulton county went to court today went to a federal judge today to argue to get those

00:30:44.200 ballots back they claimed that they were hoodwinked by the fbi to hand over those ballots and they

00:30:49.000 really didn't know why they had to hand them over well again there hasn't been a decision yet but

00:30:54.020 the federal judge, in this case, Judge J.P. Booley, heard arguments, and based on the questions that

00:30:59.740 the judge asked, it seems like the FBI is going to be able to keep those ballots. I want to make

00:31:03.560 sure everyone is updated about that, because that could really make a difference in all of this

00:31:09.820 right now. That's an interesting story. Now, going even further south, well, not further south,

00:31:14.440 going a little bit west of Georgia, I want to get you updated on another story, which is a good

00:31:18.020 example of good and bad journalism in america basically bad journalism as some of you may know

00:31:24.400 elon musk has one company it's called the boring company it's kind of a funny name the boring

00:31:28.680 company with one r because they literally dig tunnels and they have been working in the city

00:31:35.100 of nashville to create underground tunnels that get people from downtown to the airport really

00:31:40.960 really fast sounds great to me a direct line to the airport no traffic i can make sure i get my

00:31:45.220 flight. Sounds great. CNBC, my former station, came out with a big story on their website today

00:31:52.680 about how people in Nashville now don't like that project. And then when you read in the second

00:31:57.860 paragraph, they say, well, actually, what happened was when we asked in the poll, we said Elon Musk's

00:32:03.000 project, people didn't like it. When they took his name out of the question, they did like it.

00:32:07.660 Now, what's the point of doing a story like that? You're admitting in your second paragraph

00:32:11.460 that you loaded the poll

00:32:13.100 and who knows if people are for it or against it now.

00:32:15.720 Now you've just completely muddied the field.

00:32:18.560 This is journalism?

00:32:20.860 This isn't even good polling.

00:32:22.720 It's bad journalism.

00:32:23.500 And they're reporting on a bad poll.

00:32:24.880 Talk about fruit of a poison tree.

00:32:27.360 Just incredible.

00:32:29.200 All right, I'm Jake Novak in for Roger Stone

00:32:30.900 here on the Stone Zone.

00:32:31.880 When we come back,

00:32:32.620 I'm going to tell you about Jim Farley.

00:32:34.040 He's the CEO of Ford

00:32:35.340 and boy, is he a lucky guy.

00:32:37.240 But did he tip the scales in his own favor?

00:32:40.040 Wait till you hear about this.

00:32:41.460 the stone zone entertaining and informative on the red apple podcast network and i'm jake novak

00:32:53.080 in for roger stone this evening want to get you updated on a couple of developing slash breaking

00:32:57.400 stories looks like that ground stop that was going on at all three dc area airports i don't

00:33:03.400 know why all three had to have a full ground stop but it was at dullest that there was a problem

00:33:07.480 apparently some kind of smoky odor in the air traffic control tower that's been taken care of

00:33:13.760 we had somebody here at WABC whose family member was flying out of Dulles on their way

00:33:18.420 overseas and that's all taken care of that's good news again however that that they needed like a

00:33:24.380 hit on the head I mean honestly with everything that's going on at our airport so that seems to

00:33:28.440 be resolved uh what isn't resolved is whatever the heck's going on with Tiger Woods at the top

00:33:33.440 of the hour you heard me talking about that uh tiger woods had to spend some hours in jail today

00:33:39.720 dui either under the influence of a drug or boo they don't know exactly what yet we're not going

00:33:45.500 to find out probably that quickly maybe we will uh but what a fall from grace from tiger woods

00:33:51.200 once again of course probably the biggest fall from grace from the standpoint of a endorsement

00:33:56.440 figure and if you remember 20 years ago in this country really as recently as maybe 18 years ago

00:34:03.400 I can't remember exactly when that first went down with Tiger Woods.

00:34:06.060 I want to say it was 2009, that first car accident.

00:34:08.820 And then we found out about the infidelities and all the other issues with him.

00:34:12.400 This was a man whose endorsement was gold in America, the number one sought after endorsement for just about anything.

00:34:20.820 And he had to come back in many ways, certainly at his age, not going to be the best golfer in the world anymore.

00:34:28.340 We know that.

00:34:29.120 but now he's got this DUI

00:34:32.480 arrest

00:34:33.540 hit a vehicle

00:34:35.660 so not a great situation

00:34:37.980 for Tiger Woods

00:34:39.020 and we know he's been through a lot

00:34:41.140 so has everybody

00:34:42.260 a lot of people have a lot of things weighing on them

00:34:44.500 we certainly understand that

00:34:45.660 but obviously there's something going on

00:34:48.660 with him personally

00:34:49.340 I'm sorry when you have multiple DUIs

00:34:51.260 and these kinds of problems

00:34:52.360 I'm sorry I understand I'm not a psychiatrist

00:34:54.960 and if I were he's not my patient

00:34:57.400 so I'm not trying to play the psychic psychiatrist or the pretend psychiatrist but I'm sorry it

00:35:02.820 doesn't take a psychiatrist to realize there's something going on here this is a cry for help

00:35:06.140 this has got some other things going on that's it's a lot of people a lot of a lot of you

00:35:11.780 listening know exactly what I'm talking about and as a human being I certainly have compassion for

00:35:16.440 him not a huge professional golf fan so no one no one can accuse me of being some kind of tiger

00:35:20.980 woods fan I had really didn't have much of an opinion about in one way or the other which was

00:35:25.360 hard to be that way in this country all those years ago because he was everywhere he was everywhere

00:35:30.740 he checked a lot of boxes all those years ago first of all he was young he was in that demo 18

00:35:35.480 to 35 he was an incredible athlete he was of mixed race uh had a great smile all those things that

00:35:43.840 you want and he was involved in a sport which caters to very wealthy people mostly all those

00:35:51.540 things that you want to sell your watches to sell your cars to sell your jewelry to sell your airline

00:35:56.460 to sell your resort i mean what didn't he plug i can't you know again of high-end thing you he

00:36:01.640 plugged it all he lost that with the first controversy and now any chance of him doing

00:36:06.360 that again not too good he may end up doing prescription drug ads uh that even then it

00:36:12.180 won't be so great uh i'm not crying for him i'm sure he's financially set and his family is as

00:36:17.320 well but my goodness I want to spend the last minute and a half or so just talking about another

00:36:22.940 thing that's going on in America right now and millions of American families know exactly what

00:36:27.260 I'm talking about probably some of you as well this is the week and next week as well when these

00:36:32.240 final decisions from America's colleges come down for regular admission and there are about 20

00:36:39.860 million college students in America right now so divide it by four you're talking about a freshman

00:36:45.500 class you know we're talking about millions of american families and millions of american 17

00:36:51.820 18 year olds who are getting a decision in the mail or most of them of course online now

00:36:58.180 that they have really been on edge about for a long time and for a lot of them it's been a great

00:37:03.640 day it's been a great week they got the the yeses that they wanted and for a lot they got a lot of

00:37:09.980 no's uh and i just want to first extend the congratulations to those of you who got the

00:37:15.160 answer you wanted and to those of you who didn't who put in the work please remember this is not

00:37:21.080 the be all and end all i hope you know that and i hope you know that it's really really important

00:37:26.600 to understand that your education is going to be a lot more than the four years you spend in

00:37:31.980 college i certainly hope so i heard i certainly hope you've had a great education up to now

00:37:35.600 but just remember it's just a small bump in the road i got into a great college

00:37:41.240 and I am nowhere near as successful as a lot of my friends

00:37:45.040 and family members who I'm very proud of.

00:37:47.200 I'm very happy with all that I've been able to do as well

00:37:49.740 and it's got very little to do with where I went to school.

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