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00:00:40.760 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

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00:00:49.220 It's the Stone Zone.

00:00:51.260 Here's Roger Stone.

00:00:55.280 Hey, Roger Stone has the night off.

00:00:57.720 I'm James Flippin sitting in, and if you're listening in the New York City area, you may recognize the voice.

00:01:04.300 I'm the news guy, often heard this hour for our affiliate in the Big Apple.

00:01:08.740 It is the Stone Zone with James Flippin on what's one of the most tragic and heartbreaking days for all Americans every year, April 15th.

00:01:19.840 And I'm not actually being flippant or trying to be downplaying of the anniversary of the Boston bombing, the Boston Marathon bombing.

00:01:29.960 No, I'm not talking about Boston.

00:01:31.700 I'm talking about all over these United States.

00:01:34.600 But the people of Boston following the Tea Party once upon a time, they would understand it's April 15th.

00:01:41.420 The deadline has come and gone in most of our listening areas to send in your taxes.

00:01:47.820 The Kinks Sunday, or I should say sunny afternoon.

00:02:05.120 You always get the Beatles and the Taxman, or maybe Johnny Cash after taxes.

00:02:09.920 Wanted to switch it up a little bit for this one.

00:02:13.020 But why is it such a tragic day?

00:02:14.880 Well, obviously, nobody wants to give up their hard-earned money, that much anybody would

00:02:20.340 understand, and you don't want to spend more than you have to, and we pay accountants,

00:02:25.240 and we pay executives, and we do everything we can to try to get out from under our tax

00:02:30.560 burden.

00:02:31.360 But the real reason that it's such a tragedy, and the real reason that it's such a bad thing,

00:02:36.740 April 15th, and having to pay your taxes, is because of all the fraud.

00:02:41.240 And that's what we're going to get into in a second here.

00:02:42.900 But Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says it has been a smooth tax season from the IRS perspective.

00:02:48.980 Most importantly, it's been a great tax season for the American people.

00:02:52.740 Thanks to promises made, promises kept, through the working families tax cuts,

00:02:58.360 the president has delivered the record refunds to the American people.

00:03:03.400 more than 45 percent of the filers of the returns that we have seen have had at least one of the

00:03:12.340 four president's signature policies no tax and tips no tax and overtime the deductions for our

00:03:18.560 great seniors and the deductibility of interest on auto loans for american-made cars all good

00:03:25.140 policies and just this week we had a celebration of no tax on tips at the white house a door dash

00:03:31.400 grandma bringing the mcdonalds to the oval office and president trump's actions the big beautiful

00:03:38.300 bill some of the tax cuts that have been put into place that does make this day a little bit easier

00:03:43.680 to deal with because president trump is america first he's worker first taxpayer first and those

00:03:51.920 cuts via the big beautiful bill are a part of that delivering on promises as treasury secretary

00:03:58.180 Besant said there. And really, if not for the Supreme Court sabotaging his tariffs, if not for

00:04:05.000 the war in Iran, where would the stock market be right now? Right. Because, I mean, we know that

00:04:11.040 we went over the 50,000 mark at one point for the Dow. Stocks were mixed today. The Dow stepped back

00:04:17.040 a bit, but the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq composite advanced. If not for the tariffs decision, if not

00:04:22.580 for the war, we would just be absolutely cooking with gas from an economic perspective. But Iran 0.66

00:04:27.840 on a necessary diversion, as Trump has called it.

00:04:31.540 Today, he said he feels as though the war is kind of winding down,

00:04:34.980 and there are some reports out there that both sides could be getting closer

00:04:38.900 to making a protracted peace deal.

00:04:40.740 The Supreme Court, as far as the tariffs thing, less easy to just explain away.

00:04:45.920 I'll say this much.

00:04:47.060 Thanks a lot, John Roberts.

00:04:48.760 Thanks a lot, George W. Bush, for that tariff smackdown.

00:04:53.080 Because don't forget, President Bush, the younger President Bush, spent like a drunken sailor in his second term.

00:05:01.240 He absolutely abandoned the principles of fiscal conservatism.

00:05:06.660 He embraced the neocon big government.

00:05:10.280 But as long as it's our big government, it's fine mindset.

00:05:13.500 And so that inspired the Tea Party, which became MAGA.

00:05:17.900 So I'll say this. Thank you, John Roberts, and thank you, President Bush, for President Trump.

00:05:24.140 But as I said, why really is tax day, April 15th, such a tragedy?

00:05:29.920 Well, it's because of where the money that's collected goes, what it's used on, how it's stolen.

00:05:36.800 If it wasn't for all the fraud, you know, we'd probably have a balanced budget.

00:05:40.760 You know, we probably wouldn't have a deficit as a country, or it certainly wouldn't be

00:05:45.840 the trillions and trillions of dollars that it is right now.

00:05:50.000 I know just from a kind of back of the napkin math perspective, because trust me, I'm not

00:05:54.540 a mathematics specialist, and although I studied economics in college, I kind of just barely

00:06:00.940 understand aspects of financial theory.

00:06:04.380 But with all the money that we generate as a country, and the fact that we rank somewhere

00:06:09.480 near the top with you know china in the world's best economy how do we have such a massive deficit

00:06:16.560 well it's because everyone's stealing all the taxpayer money that's why even though you're 0.69

00:06:20.920 going to go to jail if you are a couple days late with your taxes or if you miss a spot and you put

00:06:27.640 the zero here and you don't dot this i and all that you're going to go to jail right i mean the

00:06:31.580 irs doesn't mess around that much we know ask al capone but if you steal from the government

00:06:38.420 somehow that's not held to the same standard that aspect of it i don't quite get although the irs is

00:06:44.180 sort of single mission right they've got the hammer if you don't pay them by april 15th they're going

00:06:49.080 to come for you and don't forget it's not even just the fraud in terms of the taxpayer spending

00:06:54.620 fraud like we've seen in minneapolis or california or new york illinois new jersey even red states

00:07:03.240 Florida has had a lot of documented fraud. We'll get there in a second, because it's actually not just these individuals, people like you and me who set up fake businesses, fake charities, meals on wheels, daycare without any kids, all this kind of stuff that much we know about.

00:07:21.400 Right. But what about the actual members of Congress that are also doing this stealing?

00:07:28.400 I mean, even this alleged creep, Eric Swalwell, who made a career out of being anti-Trump and then at the same time that he was so holier than now over things like Me Too, he was allegedly assaulting women.

00:07:42.260 supposedly this came out today got it here in the new york post supposedly their campaign donors

00:07:50.620 paid for eric swalwell's trip to new york city where he's accused of raping a woman in his hotel

00:07:55.480 room so this guy was out there bashing president trump no doubt talking about it every single turn

00:08:02.600 the locker room talk and the video with billy bush and whatever it happened or didn't happen

00:08:10.440 with eugene carroll and stormy daniels and whatever i don't have the time or really the

00:08:15.760 care to look up whatever crap he said about trump over the last few years but but you want to bet

00:08:20.640 that he was playing the house organ about that type of stuff and still what does it cost to send 0.78

00:08:26.380 a congressman to new york city on a trip for some rnr or whatever he was doing here pay for the hotel

00:08:34.160 pay for the flight pay for some meals okay you know what that's small potatoes from a financial

00:08:39.580 perspective because a trip to new york city costs a lot less than five million dollars and guess 1.00

00:08:47.000 what florida congresswoman sheila cherfaluse mccormick is accused of she's going to go on

00:08:52.740 federal trial next year and she could be expelled from congress for allegedly stealing five million 0.99

00:08:59.580 dollars in fema funds for personal use now miss cherfaluse mccormick i'm probably butchering the 0.95

00:09:08.620 pronunciation of her last name but um pretty soon she'll be known by a number in the federal 1.00

00:09:14.220 predatory system so who really cares but her district covers most of the black majority areas 1.00

00:09:19.440 in fort lauderdale west palm beach you know areas where they get hammered by hurricanes 1.00

00:09:24.780 places that really need fema and this woman was using the money for handbags and vacations and 1.00

00:09:32.540 spa days. I mean, what an absolute disgrace. What an odious, disgusting, scum-of-the-earth person 1.00

00:09:40.880 to do that, to steal from emergency funds. $5 million? $5 million. And that is so brazen. 0.99

00:09:51.240 Do you think that we would even know if it was less than, I don't know, $250,000? As if that's

00:09:58.760 not a lot of money? Five million. Here's Republican Speaker Mike Johnson. In my view,

00:10:03.420 that would be appropriate there. And she's had all the investigation and the facts have borne out.

00:10:08.720 Apparently, she has stolen FEMA funds. I mean, think of it, you know, the embezzlement of

00:10:14.680 disaster relief funds by a member of Congress that deserves expulsion. Yeah, you think so,

00:10:20.500 Mike? I mean, I got no big beef with Speaker Johnson, honestly. I just I don't love that

00:10:26.280 the laid back, the low key demeanor. Not my cup of tea, I guess. But hey, yeah, she didn't steal

00:10:35.260 cups and plastic forks and knives from the break room, Mr. Speaker. It was five million dollars

00:10:42.620 worth of FEMA funds. So I would say she should be expelled from Congress. Yeah, yeah. Congress, 1.00

00:10:48.300 how about she should be expelled from the country? She should be exiled. Whatever happened to exile 1.00

00:10:53.860 anyway we need to bring back a good exile like like killian murphy in the new batmans when he

00:11:00.640 was the judge he had been the scarecrow and then he becomes the uh the judge i sentence you to exile

00:11:06.400 all right when we come back talk about a name that's synonymous with fraud let's talk minnesota

00:11:12.000 governor tim walls he is just a fraud on many many many levels and we'll talk about the latest with

00:11:19.080 him that state lawmakers are considering up in Minnesota. I'm James Flippen in for Roger Stone

00:11:26.440 on the Stone Zone. This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone. He likes politics and he's a

00:11:33.380 professional at the highest level. Roger Stone.

00:11:49.080 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest

00:12:02.500 political minds rogerson was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant

00:12:07.260 political analyst now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone and i'm james

00:12:15.280 flipping filling in for roger stone who has the night off this is the stone zone talking a lot

00:12:21.700 about the ramifications of tax day april 15th a heartbreaking and tragic day for anybody who

00:12:30.800 actually has a job and has to fork over that good american money every april 15th and for a guy like

00:12:40.760 Tim Walls, you have to wonder how much he really cares about the plight of the average taxpayer and how frustrating it must be to see the money that's taken in wasted on things like fraud and like daycare centers in Minneapolis, the whole thing that was exposed by Nick Shirley.

00:13:01.720 By the way, just as an aside, apparently lawmakers in California are considering the Stop Nick Shirley Act.

00:13:11.880 And I can only assume that that's in some way supposed to be getting at citizen journalists or the ability for investigative journalists to do their thing without being, I don't know, members of the fake news.

00:13:23.360 But Nick Shirley did absolutely expose what was going on in Minnesota.

00:13:28.040 and Tim Walz, according to whistleblowers, knew all about it.

00:13:33.140 So Rep. Mike Weiner, who is a Republican with the Minnesota House of Representatives,

00:13:38.640 he's part of a group of lawmakers who just filed to impeach Tim Walz

00:13:43.720 amid all the overwhelming fraud that's gone down in Minnesota.

00:13:48.560 Evidence presented in legislative and congressional investigation show

00:13:52.440 that billions in taxpayer funds were lost through fraud in Minnesota social services programs.

00:13:59.360 Oversight systems failed repeatedly under executive leadership.

00:14:03.360 Federal investigation and lawmakers have estimated up to $9 billion in fraud

00:14:08.120 across multiple programs administered by the state.

00:14:11.620 This represents not a minor administrative lapse, but a systematic breakdown in governance.

00:14:17.520 Yeah. I mean, $9 billion in fraudulent spending. The entire Minnesota state budget, what even is that amount? I'm looking it up here. Minnesota state budget spending, they had an $18 billion budget surplus as of 2023, which was primarily used to fund a $72 billion two-year state budget.

00:14:44.860 Again, that was back in 2023, the largest in state history, a seventy two billion dollar budget and nine billion dollars of that was going into some schemers pockets.

00:14:56.800 So, yeah, fraud, major issue. Maybe that's why so many people are anti taxes.

00:15:02.740 Maybe that's why today, April 15th, is such a heartbreaking and tragic day for so many people.

00:15:08.820 Pretty much the opposite of a patriotic day.

00:15:11.400 Because the subtext should be April 15th, the day you pay your taxes,

00:15:18.860 the day you working stiff suckers fork over a third of your legitimately earned money

00:15:26.360 for fraudsters schemers fake phony politicians grifters lazy good-for-nothings ne'er-do-wells 0.92

00:15:34.060 and that's so that we can raise enough revenue to overcome the fraud keep this great country going

00:15:40.480 and hopefully maybe avoid bankruptcy before the year 2050 but yeah other than that what a privilege

00:15:47.760 it is to pay taxes raise my taxes right that's what all these democrats if you talk to democrats

00:15:53.700 just on like a casual level they'll say oh yeah you could raise my taxes it's fine i like having

00:15:58.860 paved roads i like having well they wouldn't say police but maybe they maybe they'd mention the

00:16:03.920 fire or something like that the fire department well we like having schools you might as well set

00:16:09.160 the money on fire you know that's the thing like if if you just said oh well you know it's all kind

00:16:14.920 of a song and dance and this is just what we do in the united states you might as well just set

00:16:18.760 the money on fire. At least that would be something to look at. Here in the tri-state area where I'm

00:16:24.240 broadcasting from today in New York City, this story broke today about SantaCon. Now, if you're

00:16:30.540 not in New York, you might not know about SantaCon, but every December, the March of the Drunken

00:16:36.260 Santas brings together a bunch of people who, ostensibly for charity, get drunk and do a bar

00:16:44.260 crawl around either new york city or there's one across the hudson river in hoboken as well

00:16:50.380 and so this guy that founded santa con stefan pildes has been arrested why well funny you

00:17:01.900 should ask because it connects to fraud supposedly he was stealing all the money that was raised for

00:17:08.360 charity and putting it in his own pockets and i just want to say right now santa con let's just

00:17:15.080 get rid of it okay with the greasy smeared santa suits and the girls and the little mini skirts

00:17:21.760 all right fine probably a lot of people in our audience are saying hey don't complain about that

00:17:25.580 part of it but it's not exactly in the spirit of the season is it santa con and it's just such a

00:17:32.900 it's just unsightly it's unseemly nobody wants santa con bar crawls are a personal thing for

00:17:39.880 you and your buddies you know maybe when you're like 18 19 you go check out this santa con it's

00:17:45.040 not worth it and charity it's not for charity okay this guy stefan pildes is accused of stealing

00:17:52.740 millions of dollars for santa con and it ain't for charity he was uh using it on concert tickets

00:17:59.580 home renovations and vacations and fine dining so yeah ho ho ho all the way to the slammer

00:18:06.040 i'm james flippen in for roger stone on the stone zone and when we come back we're going to talk

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00:18:59.580 this is the stone zone with roger stone roger stone who's a very very one of the smartest

00:19:14.880 political minds roger stone was persecuted people forget he's actually a brilliant brilliant

00:19:19.680 political analyst now get in the zone it's the stone zone here's roger stone yeah you know we

00:19:27.520 could make fraud the theme of the night really all night ticket master and live nation even

00:19:34.420 they're doing it it's all the rage a manhattan jury determined that the company live nation and

00:19:43.220 their subsidiary ticket master they used monopoly power to take advantage of artists people who

00:19:52.040 would be going to concerts venues it's just one big scheme gee you mean it shouldn't actually 0.96

00:19:59.760 cost 750 to see a concert from some no talent ass clown i'm shocked absolutely shocked

00:20:08.560 so we'll see what happens with all the uh class action lawsuits that are soon to come 0.86

00:20:14.020 with all these people saying i'm owed money by ticket master but you know what this is really

00:20:20.900 amazing. I saw

00:20:23.640 this on Fox News today.

00:20:26.460 Legal entries

00:20:27.740 into the United States by

00:20:29.620 asylum seekers, 1.00

00:20:31.260 they are down

00:20:32.960 99.9%

00:20:35.740 under President Trump.

00:20:37.800 99.9%

00:20:39.660 down, asylum seekers. 1.00

00:20:41.660 So what do you want to bet 1.00

00:20:42.900 that the

00:20:44.440 process of

00:20:47.340 applying for asylum and claiming

00:20:49.380 that you are in so need of special protection

00:20:52.400 from the United States of America.

00:20:54.040 Huh, you know what?

00:20:55.180 That's influenced by the perspective of the executive.

00:20:58.940 Yeah, so of course it comes down to the actual enforcement

00:21:01.700 and paying for the agents and having the resources in place

00:21:04.960 and all that, no question, right?

00:21:06.720 We know, we talked about the big, beautiful bill

00:21:08.560 from a tax cuts perspective.

00:21:09.860 Well, big, beautiful bill also helped fund border security.

00:21:14.300 But it is possible to close the border,

00:21:17.700 despite the fact that we heard from brain-dead Biden

00:21:20.560 you need legislation to get it done

00:21:22.180 because that's what they pumped them full of

00:21:24.040 vitamin B and said okay

00:21:26.000 time for you to go out there

00:21:28.080 and talk about it's impossible

00:21:30.060 to close the border without legislation

00:21:31.680 well maybe in terms of the agents

00:21:34.020 right okay fine you can make the case that the 0.76

00:21:35.940 big beautiful bill was needed because at least

00:21:38.020 you could fund the ability to stop 0.98

00:21:40.100 all the illegal immigration but

00:21:41.700 President Trump, the Department

00:21:44.020 of Homeland Security despite the

00:21:45.820 fake government shutdowns as engineered by the democrats customs and border patrol ice getting

00:21:54.760 it done and that's despite all the fake ginned up outrage as fueled by the fake news with the 0.97

00:22:01.020 minneapolis and the renee good and the alex preddy and whoever the scumbag gang member was that got 0.95

00:22:08.600 shot during one of those things they didn't make a big deal about that one they're like hey let's 0.97

00:22:12.180 believe that a lot a white woman getting shot and a white guy getting shot we'll talk about that but

00:22:16.960 you know we're not going to talk about the uh gang member let's talk about u.s senator adam 0.99

00:22:22.820 schiff of california one of the most loathsome bald-faced bug-eyed liars i've ever seen if you 0.98

00:22:35.580 want to talk about somebody who's supposedly an important person in a position of authority right 0.97

00:22:41.340 was a key member of congress certainly a surrogate for the left now he's one of the 50 u.s senators

00:22:49.040 this guy insisted because let's not forget about this right we recently had director of national

00:22:56.160 intelligence tulsi gabbard who came forth with a report that laid out all the ways the russia

00:23:03.560 collusion hoax was engineered from the top, was aimed at eliminating a duly elected president,

00:23:11.940 was aimed at smearing the reputation of an entire political movement, and just kind of

00:23:19.320 deleting history, right? That's what the powers that be, whatever you want to call them,

00:23:26.520 the deep state barack obama the dnc whatever term you want to use the people that were behind the

00:23:34.320 russiagate collusion attempted to engineer a treason and you could say they did commit treason

00:23:40.680 it just didn't really result in what they wanted which was going to be the impeachment and removal

00:23:45.000 and disgrace president trump it didn't happen because there was no such thing as russian

00:23:51.980 collusion but adam schiff every night he insisted right anybody who would put him on tv

00:23:58.840 and his and his buggy eyes and his rosy cheeks every every chance they got to put him on screen

00:24:06.540 he would insist i've seen it i've seen the proof president trump was colluding with the russians 0.83

00:24:12.700 he'd seen it trust him well that was all a big fat lie a treasonous plot that this little twerp

00:24:20.180 probably knew all about and what did the voters of california do by the way oh they gave me a

00:24:26.360 promotion yeah congressman nope now you're a senator so on ms now um i think it was jen

00:24:34.380 saki i think she was asking this piece of schiff if he knew about his buddy eric swalwell and all

00:24:41.740 the bad stuff he was allegedly up to well i don't know what others may have known i can tell you

00:24:46.800 that i certainly didn't know that he was involved in any conduct along the lines of what has come

00:24:52.100 out since friday and if i had i wouldn't have gone near him with a 10-foot pole oh a 10-foot pole

00:24:58.380 good line bro hip yeah i wouldn't have touched it with a 10-foot pole well you know what this guy

00:25:07.420 never met a lie he didn't love so the concept of him attempting to distance himself from swalwell

00:25:15.700 now by saying, oh, if I only, if only I knew, if only I knew, I thought you had all the

00:25:21.660 goods, chef.

00:25:23.180 I thought you were a guy who cozied up to the intelligence community.

00:25:26.500 I thought you were a guy who knew what others didn't, right?

00:25:29.380 This is a guy who just straight up lied every single chance he got about Russia, about how

00:25:37.100 Moscow was in bed with President Trump.

00:25:39.720 And I've seen the evidence.

00:25:41.240 Well, clearly he never did.

00:25:43.000 Clearly he lied repeatedly about that.

00:25:45.700 and as stated, the people of California elected him to a promotion,

00:25:50.480 sent him to the Senate, so the state gets what it deserves.

00:25:53.840 At the very least, that's what I used to think, by the way.

00:25:56.400 I really did.

00:25:57.340 I used to think that about California, New York, New Jersey, I guess now,

00:26:02.960 because I'm from New Jersey, born and raised, and I'm a voter there,

00:26:06.800 and I was very disappointed when Jack Cittarelli got defeated handily

00:26:12.380 by Governor Mikey Sherrill,

00:26:14.360 but it didn't really make any sense to me.

00:26:16.120 Not just because the politics are bad

00:26:18.440 and so many people subscribe to it and whatever,

00:26:20.300 because in New Jersey, traditionally,

00:26:22.640 that's been a purple state.

00:26:24.600 A little bit of both.

00:26:25.840 The big city, Camden in the south,

00:26:27.600 Newark in the north,

00:26:28.440 and then other people who are sensible

00:26:30.280 and actually have a job

00:26:31.400 and try to make a living

00:26:32.380 and try to make ends meet,

00:26:33.820 they get defeated by the big lefty blocks

00:26:37.500 in those big cities.

00:26:38.380 But, you know, still, that's statewide.

00:26:40.700 Different districts, some are more conservative

00:26:43.140 Some are more liberal, whatever

00:26:44.460 But Mikey Sherrill absolutely destroyed Jack Cittarelli

00:26:49.220 What's that all about?

00:26:50.340 Well, very simple

00:26:51.680 Fraud has been a big focus for tonight

00:26:54.460 And fraud, unfortunately, is not just stealing from taxpayers

00:26:58.940 It's stealing elections from voters as well

00:27:02.340 And the voter fraud apparatus

00:27:06.820 Stealing elections, all this kind of thing

00:27:08.680 What do you want to bet?

00:27:09.600 it's pretty darn robust in california so that's really what we have to blame for um adam schiff

00:27:16.780 but president trump's advisor steven miller he's one of my favorite maga surrogates might be my

00:27:25.320 favorite as a matter of fact he's been in the fight since he was a teenager during the duke

00:27:30.880 lacrosse rape scandal he stood up for those guys said this isn't right he went to duke

00:27:36.120 and was on tv all the way back then he's a fighter and he's bald like me so i have a lot of respect

00:27:43.120 for those bald gentlemen that are out there on camera but this cut courtesy of fox news adam 0.96

00:27:48.300 schiff is not only not only a stone cold hopeless loser but he is one of the most corrupt one of the 0.97

00:27:57.480 most shameful keep going one of the most heinous individuals ever to serve in public office in 0.98

00:28:03.780 America and everything he's devoted his life to has been debunked, discredited and discarded.

00:28:10.880 He literally represents the face of failure. His sole achievement in life was fighting a losing

00:28:19.640 war against Donald Trump. And now President Trump is in the White House and Adam Schiff is the

00:28:24.960 leader of a dying and dethroned movement. Yes. Bravo. Encore. Bellissimo. Stephen Miller. I mean,

00:28:33.560 that is just a takedown unlike any other because that's what adam schiff really deserves is someone 0.95

00:28:43.840 telling the truth about how pathetic he is about how pathetic the russian collusion effort was 0.56

00:28:50.760 and how people like him maybe he's not as bad a guy as eric swalwell i honestly don't know what 0.93

00:28:58.960 really happened and what didn't happen and what adam schiff has been up to all these years there's

00:29:03.120 rumors out there by the way some online stuff not going to get into that but i will say this

00:29:07.800 they are birds of a feather when it comes to the idea that your money taxpayer dollars

00:29:15.560 the 30 that you have to fork over every uh april 15th right that's their money

00:29:22.900 and they'll spend it any way they wish all right we're going to take a quick step aside but when

00:29:30.420 we return, let's talk

00:29:32.280 Jerome Powell, let's

00:29:34.540 talk about the Catholic Church

00:29:36.380 and the back and forth with

00:29:38.340 Pope Leo and President

00:29:40.380 Trump, because some pretty interesting revelations

00:29:42.720 coming out, as a

00:29:44.480 matter of fact, as to the Pope's

00:29:46.700 schedule

00:29:47.980 and who Pope Leo

00:29:50.520 has been meeting with.

00:29:53.940 And

00:29:54.540 it connects to the New York

00:29:56.560 Archdiocese, as a matter

00:29:58.520 of fact. And we've got some audio from border czar Tom Homan, who called out the Pope despite being

00:30:05.500 a Catholic. And as a non-Catholic Protestant Christian, I don't even really know what the

00:30:12.660 rules are or aren't when it comes to being a Catholic and what you're allowed to say or what

00:30:16.400 you're not allowed to say. But in these United States, we maintain the freedom of speech,

00:30:21.940 Pope Leo. And you might remember that from a place that you used to live in, Illinois.

00:30:26.560 Boy, now you're in the Vatican, and I guess that means that you can just criticize the United States of America

00:30:32.900 and criticize our autonomy and criticize our role in maintaining this earth.

00:30:39.480 But you know what? That's all right.

00:30:41.500 The Pope can say what he wants, we'll say what we want, and we'll do it right after this.

00:30:45.600 James Flippin, in for Roger Stone on The Stone Zone.

00:30:48.580 This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:30:52.140 He likes politics and he's a professional at the highest level.

00:30:57.140 Roger Stone.

00:30:58.240 Where's Roger?

00:31:16.780 This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.

00:31:20.540 Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest political minds.

00:31:24.620 Roger Stone was persecuted.

00:31:25.840 People forget he's actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.

00:31:28.960 Now, get in the zone.

00:31:30.740 It's the Stone Zone.

00:31:32.760 Here's Roger Stone.

00:31:34.900 So glad that you could join us on the Stone Zone.

00:31:38.680 Roger Stone has the night off.

00:31:40.600 I'm James Flippen.

00:31:42.120 Filling in for him.

00:31:43.360 And the recent back and forth with Pope Leo and President Trump.

00:31:50.540 um we'll we'll get to that in a second but president trump is today saying that he will

00:31:54.940 fire jerome powell if powell stays past his um out term i know that may is when powell's

00:32:03.340 time in office runs out let's see what this is all about because i didn't really even necessarily

00:32:08.060 see exactly what it was that president trump had said trump has threatened to fire powell if he

00:32:14.340 doesn't step down from the position when his term is up i mean yeah i mean that that would seem to

00:32:19.560 be grounds for firing.

00:32:21.820 Other than that, I don't really think the commander-in-chief, the POTUS, has an easy

00:32:27.240 path toward canning the Federal Reserve chair.

00:32:30.840 But Senate Majority Leader John Thune is urging the Trump administration to wrap up the investigation

00:32:37.220 into Fed Chair Powell.

00:32:39.680 Thune saying that ending the probe would clear the way for confirming President Trump's

00:32:44.080 nominee to replace Powell.

00:32:46.880 and we're going to watch that process obviously play itself out but the justice department is

00:32:52.060 investigating paul over renovation costs at the federal reserve headquarters and whether or not

00:32:56.900 he misled congress just more of the same really you know powell's just a big government guy thinks

00:33:02.300 he's so special he's one of these wizards that gets the control the price of money or whatever

00:33:05.960 we don't really need the federal reserve by the way um but it's a well that's a whole different

00:33:11.740 discussion. All right, so getting back into the Catholic Church and President Trump and his war

00:33:18.800 of words with Pope Leo, the Pope met with David Axelrod last week. Now, David Axelrod is the guy

00:33:27.700 who was President Obama's campaign architect. David Axelrod is not a Catholic, never met with

00:33:34.280 a Pope before. Matter of fact, his entire career is built on building the political narrative

00:33:40.980 that is the American left.

00:33:42.800 And yet now he meets with Pope Leo.

00:33:46.080 Kind of curious, right?

00:33:48.000 Well, it's really not that curious

00:33:49.560 if you are paying close attention.

00:33:52.260 President Trump recently said

00:33:53.900 that Pope Leo's weak on crime,

00:33:57.200 that he really didn't care

00:33:58.640 whether or not Iran got a nuclear weapon.

00:34:00.780 Then there was the AI image of Trump as Jesus.

00:34:05.640 Everybody freaked out,

00:34:06.660 even people on the right.

00:34:07.720 Then Trump deleted it.

00:34:09.020 Now, today, Trump posted a photo, an AI image of Jesus embracing him.

00:34:15.440 So it seems as though our Lord and Savior has forgiven President Trump, which, of course, that's a given.

00:34:22.720 But, yeah, David Axelrod, he's got some explaining to do, because why was he meeting with Pope Leo?

00:34:28.100 Well, during that whole back and forth, President Trump also said, you may not have noticed,

00:34:32.860 that if he had not been reelected president or elected president for a second term,

00:34:36.760 that Pope Leo would not have been chosen as Pope.

00:34:40.620 And he's absolutely right.

00:34:42.440 He is absolutely right.

00:34:43.820 This is also why Cardinal Timothy Dolan

00:34:47.080 was sidelined in New York as the Archbishop.

00:34:51.920 Because Dolan and Trump get along, friends.

00:34:56.080 Dolan, as an influential figure

00:34:58.960 within the Catholic Church,

00:35:01.460 him being friends with Trump

00:35:02.700 and kind of having more of a hawkish response

00:35:04.580 to immigration and stuff like that, 0.71

00:35:05.980 Not OK, because apparently the key to being pope in 2026 is insisting on open borders, not really having citizenship laws, never responding to a murderous Islamic regime like Iran. 0.69

00:35:22.840 You can't do any of that because that doesn't jive with Catholic doctrine. 0.97

00:35:27.840 So Trump's right. They absolutely wanted a foil to him, and that's why Pope Leo was chosen.

00:35:35.740 Borders are Tom Holman, who is a Catholic.

00:35:39.760 He called out Pope Leo for sort of getting involved in things that he really doesn't need to get involved in.

00:35:46.920 Let's take a listen to Holman.

00:35:48.080 I'm not going to speak for the president. I'm speaking for myself, a lifelong Catholic.

00:35:51.680 I wish they stay out of immigration if they don't know what they're talking about. 0.95

00:35:55.180 Because if they wore my shoes for 40 years and talked to a nine-year-old old girl that got raped multiple times, 0.99

00:36:01.100 or stood in the back of the trailer, back of the tractor trailer,

00:36:03.600 19 dead aliens at my feet, including a five-year-old boy that baked to death,

00:36:07.640 if they understood the atrocities that happened on the open border,

00:36:11.360 I think their opinion would change.

00:36:12.820 And I welcome discussion with any of them because they don't understand.

00:36:16.720 Illegal immigration is not a victimist crime.

00:36:19.520 Would President Trump have the most secure border in the lifetime of this nation right now?

00:36:24.640 Lives are being saved.

00:36:25.640 He's saving thousands of lives a year because he has a secure border.

00:36:28.860 human traffickers are out of business right the cartels are are going bankrupt because of that

00:36:34.620 secure border i wish that i wish they'd understand that because if they did i think they have a

00:36:41.160 different opinion yeah i mean that's such a good point by tom holman talking about the child

00:36:47.900 traffickers talking about the tractor trailer that he had to be there when they opened it

00:36:54.400 and saw all these people that baked to death in the back of it.

00:36:57.980 One of them, a five-year-old boy.

00:36:59.800 Anyone who actually knows anything that's ever been written,

00:37:03.960 whether it's in the Bible or just interpretations of Jesus

00:37:09.340 and the reason why we are Christians, right?

00:37:14.980 Let the children come to me.

00:37:17.300 Unless you become like children, you can't get into heaven.

00:37:20.280 lots of discussion of jesus and his interactions with children so you tell me pope leo why is it

00:37:31.080 okay to just turn a blind eye to the threat of child trafficking right because i mean if you

00:37:40.220 don't want border security if you don't want ice if you don't want customs and border protection

00:37:44.060 then it's open season for those jackals, the human traffickers, and that means children. 0.64

00:37:53.240 And the children of the people who have been killed in terrorist attacks as funded by Iran,

00:38:02.500 how do you think they feel about the war?

00:38:05.320 Do you think that they might be in the same boat as Pope Leo and saying,

00:38:09.900 oh, this is just a terrible thing?

00:38:11.440 Or do you think maybe they're happy

00:38:12.860 to see regime change in Iran?

00:38:15.480 Almost out of time here on The Stone Zone.

00:38:17.660 It's been great to be with you tonight.

00:38:19.220 I'm James Flippen.

00:38:20.340 Roger Stone will be back soon.

00:38:22.140 He's got the night off. 1.00

00:38:23.040 But let's talk about Hassan Piker.

00:38:25.460 Hassan Piker is a online content creator

00:38:28.680 who, despite making his money

00:38:31.060 here in the United States,

00:38:33.060 despite being a beneficiary

00:38:34.920 of all that we have in this country,

00:38:37.320 he really hates America.

00:38:39.900 and he was at Yale taking part in a debate,

00:38:42.320 and he talked about how the American empire is dying.

00:38:44.980 He also said,

00:38:45.960 The fall of the USSR was one of the greatest catastrophes of the 20th century.

00:38:53.380 Just wait. Listen. Maybe you'll agree.

00:38:57.440 No, no. We won't agree, but we do know why you said that, Hassan Piker,

00:39:02.800 because the fall of the USSR is a historic admission.

00:39:07.640 It is an undeniable record

00:39:10.100 That communism is a failure

00:39:12.260 And since communism 0.95

00:39:14.260 Is a guy like Hassan Piker's

00:39:16.260 Reason d'etre, reason to be

00:39:18.400 He has to constantly talk about

00:39:20.360 What a tragic thing that was

00:39:22.740 The fall of the USSR 0.70

00:39:24.760 But the only tragedy here 0.75

00:39:26.520 Is that you have to pay your taxes

00:39:27.940 On April 15th

00:39:29.480 I'm James Flippen

00:39:30.480 It was great to be in for Roger Stone

00:39:32.660 This is the Stone Zone

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