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00:00:35.440 You are now entering the hottest political commentary radio show in America today,

00:00:42.680 The Stone Zone. In a decisive display of strength and, well, legislative skill,

00:00:49.040 House Republicans, under the leadership of Speaker Mike Johnson on Thursday,

00:00:53.560 firmly blocked a Democrat-backed war powers resolution aimed at undermining President

00:00:59.680 Donald Trump's critical military operations against Iran. What's extraordinary, of course,

00:01:05.240 is that House Democrats never tried to tie the hands of Barack Obama, the president who dropped

00:01:11.840 more bombs, fired more missiles, and killed more people with drones than any president in American

00:01:17.720 history. This particular bill, sponsored by New York Congressman Gregory Meeks, sought to invoke

00:01:24.580 the 1973 War Powers Resolution to force an abrupt withdrawal of U.S. forces or require the president

00:01:31.700 to seek explicit congressional permission to continue safeguarding America and our allies.

00:01:38.100 Rather than allowing the opposition to score a procedural win through rushed political tactics,

00:01:44.580 Speaker Johnson and the Republican leadership, including the Majority Leader Steve Scalise,

00:01:49.260 strategically pulled the measure, buying time amid absences and internal deliberations.

00:01:56.120 This move exemplified Republican strength by refusing to let partisan theater

00:02:00.920 undermine active operations against a dangerous adversary,

00:02:05.520 particularly at a time that President Trump is working feverishly to try to bring the war to a close

00:02:10.580 through a negotiated peace.

00:02:12.220 By pulling the vote, House Republicans bought critical time amid several absences

00:02:18.400 that threatened to hand the opposition a short-term procedural victory.

00:02:23.100 House Majority Leader Steve Scalise noted that the delay would allow absent lawmakers to return

00:02:28.680 and participate once the House reconvenes after the Memorial Day resource.

00:02:34.060 While understandably, some members are always away,

00:02:37.800 this strategic move prevented the left from exploiting temporary absences

00:02:42.340 to undermine the President of the United States.

00:02:45.880 These absences do not reflect any weakening of support for the president's policy.

00:02:51.240 In fact, far from signaling division, they underscore the practical challenges of scheduling,

00:02:56.080 while the overwhelming majority of House Republicans continue to stand firmly behind the president's strong stance against the Iranian regime.

00:03:04.820 House Democrats remain largely unified behind the resolution, framing it as a necessary check on executive power,

00:03:11.480 something they never did during the time that Barack Obama was president, of course.

00:03:16.280 Though their sudden constitutional concerns appear to be highly selective.

00:03:21.100 Most have backed efforts to restrain the president, with only a handful of exceptions,

00:03:25.640 such as Congressman Jared Golden, who previously dissented from the party line.

00:03:31.200 Republicans stood mostly united in opposition, recognizing the resolution as a constitutionally

00:03:37.060 dubious attempt to micromanage the commander-in-chief during a time of real threats from the Iranian

00:03:42.860 regime. Defections were limited but notable. Of course, recently defeated Congressman Thomas

00:03:49.520 Massey sided against the war efforts, joining Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania,

00:03:56.280 who is a Democrat in Republican clothing and one of the great rhinos of all time, and Tom Barrett,

00:04:02.960 who broke ranks and voted the Democrats as they usually do on related measures. In the Senate,

00:04:09.760 Republicans such as Rand Paul, Lisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins have shown some support for

00:04:15.340 similar war power efforts in the past. On May 19th, the Senate advanced a companion resolution

00:04:21.080 by a narrow 50 to 47 vote, with only four Republicans joining the Democrats. America's

00:04:28.800 47th president continues to exert strong control over the Republican Party, as proven by this

00:04:34.300 year's early primary results. Multiple incumbents who distanced themselves from his agenda have

00:04:40.020 been defeated by Trump-backed challengers. Most notably, Senator and Dr. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana

00:04:46.200 lost his re-election bid after actually finishing third in the Republican primary, scoring, by the

00:04:53.020 way at less than 25 percent, the all-time low level for an incumbent U.S. senator seeking

00:04:59.460 re-election within the Republican Party. Also, of course, Congressman Tom Massey, who was defeated

00:05:05.200 by a Trump-endorsed candidate only days ago. These outcomes serve as a very clear reminder

00:05:11.740 that crossing the president carries significant political consequences. However, leadership's

00:05:17.420 decision here to pause and regroup, transform these challenges into an opportunity to consolidate

00:05:23.380 border support and prevent a damaging precedent during the time the president is working hard

00:05:30.180 to bring this war to a conclusion. With precise military action, America has dismantled key

00:05:36.020 components of Iran's nuclear program, their missile sites, and their terror network, proving 0.96

00:05:40.880 once again the effectiveness of the conservative doctrine of peace through strength. Launched in 0.86

00:05:46.960 response to Iranian aggression, these operations have already yielded significant results. They've

00:05:52.220 damaged the regime's navy, they've disrupted its nuclear ambitions, and its exposure of its

00:05:58.240 underlying faulty of their entire infrastructure. Trump made his position known on True Social when

00:06:03.760 he said, we're applying maximum pressure while remaining open to serious negotiations. Far from

00:06:10.020 the reckless, this approach prioritizes decisive action to confront the world's leading state

00:06:16.300 sponsor of terrorism before threats metastasize, rather than retreating into endless congressional

00:06:22.300 interference or isolationist weakness. Critics on the left chose to ignore this broader context.

00:06:29.320 Withdrawing from the war now would embolden Iranian proxies, such as Hezbollah, the Houthis,

00:06:34.660 and the Hamas, while handing the Mullahs breathing room to regroup and claim victory.

00:06:39.840 The opposition's outrage over unconstitutional actions rings performative, especially given 0.81

00:06:45.640 their eager tolerance for expansive executive power under Joe Biden and Barack Obama, which,

00:06:51.300 of course, resulted in billions of dollars of losses and massive loss of life. This resolution

00:06:58.040 was never truly about oversight. It was about sure political theater designed to fracture the

00:07:04.080 Republican majority in the House and portray the president as reckless. By blocking the measure,

00:07:09.960 House Republicans did exactly what voters expected. They honored the clear mandate delivered

00:07:14.640 by electing Donald Trump to restore American strength and put America first. I want to be

00:07:19.520 very clear. President Trump has repeatedly denounced the 1974 War Powers Act as unconstitutional,

00:07:26.260 insisting it improperly ties the hands of the commander-in-chief in the conduct of foreign

00:07:31.580 policy, and has never been faithfully followed by any previous presidents. Abandoning this mission

00:07:37.300 now would waste all of our progress against a regime already crippled by a struggling economy

00:07:42.500 and a military quickly struggling to try to rebuild and regroup. 0.96

00:07:47.320 Moving forward, House Republicans must stay united behind the clear goals of neutralizing Iran's threats to America and our allies, 0.51

00:07:56.360 securing the hostages, and placing veritable limits on their nuclear program. 0.65

00:08:01.620 Rejecting this resolution halts dangerous congressional meddling in active operations.

00:08:06.680 Staying the course, maintaining maximum pressure, and negotiating from strength is the only path to real, lasting peace, not the false peace of retreat and partisan games, as we saw in the Congress.

00:08:20.880 Victory demands resolve, and Republicans in this case have shown it.

00:08:25.000 In another news development, former FBI Director James Comey's federal trial has been delayed until October, giving him more time to fight charges tied to his infamous 8647 Instagram post in another disgraceful example of deep state hack evading justice within a system designed to protect them.

00:08:44.080 Again, I ask this question. When I was charged, a federal judge gagged me so that I could not comment on the charges against me. In fact, I was not allowed to go on radio, television, cable, or social media to defend myself. Why is James Comey able to continue to proselytize against his prosecutors and go on outlets like MSNBC? Seems rather unfair to me, but then, well, that's the two-tier justice system.

00:09:10.900 Prosecutors argue that the message amounted to a threat against President Donald Trump, the 47th president.

00:09:17.640 Everybody in the law enforcement community knows what the term 86 means.

00:09:22.680 It is a mob term. It means to terminate, to whack, to kill. 0.94

00:09:27.560 For Comey to say that he didn't know what it meant is absurd.

00:09:31.000 Comey deleted the post after backlash.

00:09:33.140 Remember, he claimed he was walking down the beach and he just happened to see this shell formation spelling out 86-47.

00:09:42.640 He claimed he didn't know that 86 could be interpreted as a call for violence.

00:09:47.500 His attorneys are now preparing multiple constitutional motions, arguing the case should be thrown out as protected political speech.

00:09:54.880 The trial had been scheduled for July, but Judge Louise Wood Flanagan pushed it out to October 21st.

00:10:02.840 Comey has spent years at the center of the Russiagate probe as he lied to Congress repeatedly

00:10:07.580 and helped to launder lies that framed President Trump as a Russian agent in the hopes of railroading his presidency.

00:10:15.240 You may recall that FBI Director Comey and I were charged with the exact same crime, lying to Congress.

00:10:21.960 There is one major difference. He was guilty. I was not.

00:10:26.320 In his case, he very specifically denied under oath that he ever shared sealed or classified information with a third party and directed them to leak it to the media.

00:10:38.940 Yet prosecutors found an email in which he did exactly that, sharing sealed material with a Dan Richman, a law school associate of his, and directing him very specifically to leak it to the New York Times.

00:10:52.520 That indictment was dismissed, not because of a flaw in the indictment, but because three federal judges interfered to claim that the prosecutor, Lindsay Halligan, was improperly appointed by the president.

00:11:04.980 They're wrong about that. They will lose that on appeal.

00:11:08.360 But by that time, of course, the statute of limitations will have run and Comey will not be able to be charged with that specific crime.

00:11:15.920 Now, once again, James Comey is asking the legal system for every benefit of the doubt that Trump supporters like me were never granted when Biden was in office or when Obama was in office.

00:11:26.340 Democrats claim the prosecution is political and it's retaliation.

00:11:31.120 But there is a simple standard. 0.70

00:11:32.520 No one gets to threaten the president of the United States, not a random citizen and certainly not a former FBI director who believes that he's above the law or one who thinks we're stupid enough to believe that he doesn't know what the term 86 means.

00:11:46.780 Equal justice means equal consequences.

00:11:49.340 Comey should not get special treatment just because he's a former insider protected by Washington's ruling class.

00:11:55.580 The fact is he's getting special treatment in a criminal justice system that is really, truly an embarrassment.

00:12:02.520 In the meantime, federal agents moved within the last 48 hours to dismantle a makeshift autonomous zone

00:12:09.440 set up in an anti-ice activist group outside the Delaney Hall Ice Facility in Newark, New Jersey.

00:12:17.220 Protesters had established encampments and barricades aimed at blocking vehicles from entering or leaving this federal site.

00:12:24.600 Authorities responded with tear gas and other less lethal measures after activists escalated the confrontation.

00:12:30.500 The protests were organized in part by groups including the New Jersey Alliance for Immigrant Justice, part of a broader network of immigration activist organizations that are essentially a leftist rebranding from Antifa.

00:12:43.880 By the way, you notice that the names of these groups always have the exact opposite effect of what they're really doing.

00:12:50.300 So the New Jersey Alliance for Immigrant Justice has nothing whatsoever to do with justice.

00:12:54.640 It has to do with protecting people who are here in the country illegally, many of whom are violent criminals.

00:13:01.180 Strategy, of course, is to provoke federal agents, disrupt lawful immigration enforcement, wait for officers to respond,

00:13:07.940 then rely on friendly media and Democrat officials to portray ICE as the aggressors and the bad guys,

00:13:14.080 when in fact all they're doing is upholding federal law and doing their jobs.

00:13:18.240 Democrats continue to claim deportation efforts are supposedly focused only on illegal immigrants with additional criminal records.

00:13:26.020 But the Trump administration has made it clear that immigration enforcement applies to illegal immigrants broadly,

00:13:32.200 not merely those convicted of separate crimes after entering the country. 0.74

00:13:36.400 It's a fact that every illegal immigrant is, by definition, therefore, a criminal. 0.77

00:13:40.840 Despite protests, theatrics, and activist pressure campaigns, deportations are increasing as funding for ICE has increased.

00:13:49.640 President Trump has also announced plans to expand enforcement through the end of the year, with large processing facilities and additional trained agents.

00:13:58.320 The latest polls show that 80-plus percent of the American people favor the deportation of dangerous illegal criminals.

00:14:05.680 So, there you have it.

00:14:06.800 There must also be a crackdown against these groups whose behavior protects illegal immigrants and presents them from being deported.

00:14:13.740 All of these Antifa-style groups must be designated as terror groups and put out of commission permanently.

00:14:20.120 I'm Roger Stone. You're listening to The Stone Zone here, right, on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

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00:14:43.560 Welcome back into The Stone Zone.

00:14:45.520 Well, a disturbing new case is raising fresh concerns about Chinese Communist Party influence operations inside the United States

00:14:54.380 and how deep it extends within both major political parties.

00:14:58.920 Thomas Paukin II, an American media professional and son of former Texas Republican Party state chairman Tom Paukin,

00:15:07.260 a supporter of Governor Ron DeSantis for president, was charged in February with acting as an unregistered agent of the Chinese communist government,

00:15:15.160 according to a newly surfaced court record.

00:15:17.680 A Justice Department affidavit says that Palkin moved to China around 2010 and worked under the name Tom McGregor while calling himself a journalist for Chinese state propaganda outlets.

00:15:31.480 Prosecutors allege that he prepared confidential documents for Chinese President Xi Jinping and helped connect a Chinese handler with an associate seeking a job in the Trump administration.

00:15:43.660 Federal agents interviewed Palkin in January of 2025 after he arrived at Washington's Dulles International Airport from China.

00:15:51.680 According to the affidavit, Palkin allegedly said his trip was partly intended to meet with the person seeking a role in the new Trump administration

00:15:59.240 and to believe there was a strong chance that that person would provide classified information to China.

00:16:05.760 That individual reportedly did not get the exact job sought,

00:16:09.400 but prosecutors say the person now works for a U.S. government agency.

00:16:14.040 Palkin's attorney stressed that his client is not charged with spying

00:16:17.720 or mishandling classified information,

00:16:19.980 but with failing to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

00:16:24.900 Palkin II has been detained pending trial.

00:16:28.660 This makes it clear that the CCP plays the long game.

00:16:32.340 It targets media, politics, family connections, and access to power, and they're very adept at

00:16:38.700 doing it. It has also corroded our very institutions, whether it is academia, whether

00:16:44.340 it is business, or whether it is just the outright buying of real estate. Chinese communists have 0.99

00:16:50.140 bought up prime ranch land and farmland right here in the United States. We should make it 1.00

00:16:55.820 illegal. Republicans talk about it constantly, but they don't actually do it. Rooting out this

00:17:00.980 Chinese Communist influence will not be easy, but we must make an example of everyone who's 0.89

00:17:05.960 proven to have done the bidding for the Chinese Communist Party. Far more than a slap on the wrist 0.76

00:17:10.980 is necessary for all of those who've sold us out to the Red Chinese menace. I'm Roger Stone. You're 1.00

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00:17:35.960 welcome back into the stone zone my next guest is someone who understands firsthand what it

00:17:42.460 means to love a dog like a family now in the 30 plus years i've been married to my wife

00:17:48.880 we have had nine yorkshire terriers and one rescue dog who was a wheaton terrier who unfortunately

00:17:56.380 had a mangled leg and survived on three legs for a long time until he too went to that great pet

00:18:02.640 graveyard in the in the sky so we are dog lovers I do not endorse products that I don't believe in

00:18:10.160 and I'm an extraordinarily strong believer firsthand in rough greens you see my dogs Pee Wee 2.0 and

00:18:18.020 Mimi brother and sister well they kind of lost their spark they're they're a little long in the

00:18:22.800 tooth. These are older dogs. And I don't know, they seem less active. They seem to have lost

00:18:28.600 that zip, that energy. After using these Rough Green products, I have to tell you,

00:18:33.980 they're like younger pups. Their coats are shinier and smoothier. They're happier. They're

00:18:39.980 healthier. This has been a godsend. Now, Sarah Black, my next guest, is the daughter of naturopathic

00:18:46.320 doctor and Rough Green's founder, Dr. Dennis Black. And she's a proud dog mom to incredible

00:18:51.720 pups herself. She has a rescued Portuguese water dog who needed a forever home, and I'm told the

00:18:58.720 latest addition, an irresistible half-doodle, half-Portuguese water dog who's completely

00:19:04.420 stolen her heart. So she knows how I feel, and my wife and I feel, about our pups. You may have

00:19:10.520 already seen Sarah's face across Facebook and social media as one of the biggest and most

00:19:14.800 passionate fans of Rough Greens because she doesn't just represent the brand, she lives it

00:19:20.000 every single day. She's here today to talk about what every dog owner needs to hear.

00:19:24.720 I know firsthand that everything she's saying is true because the Rough Greens folks have sent me 0.66

00:19:29.320 their product and I was shocked at how successful and happy my dogs were once we used it. So Sarah 0.98

00:19:35.960 Black, welcome back. Hi Roger, thank you. It's so nice to be here today. I'm so glad to hear that

00:19:43.000 Kiwi and Mimi are doing great with Rough Greens. It's like day and night in all honesty. Their

00:19:48.200 energy is better. Their spark is better. Look, they sleep with us. I admit it. We are dog lovers.

00:19:55.520 They become like your children, as you know. And I've used many of these other products. I've gone

00:20:00.640 to the pet shops and I bought them. Rough Greens is amazing because it's live food. It's live

00:20:06.380 nutrition. It's not dead food. Because as you and I both know, processed dog food is dead food.

00:20:12.960 And I don't think it's healthy for the dogs.

00:20:15.960 What you and your dad have done here is really extraordinary.

00:20:19.700 Well, thank you so much.

00:20:21.160 Yeah, you know me, Rough Greens for me isn't just a business.

00:20:25.280 It's a mission that my dad built from the heart.

00:20:27.800 He spent his entire career as a naturopathic doctor.

00:20:32.120 And when he turned the focus towards dogs, it made complete sense.

00:20:36.440 I grew up watching him believe that the body, human or animal,

00:20:40.380 has an incredible ability to heal and when you give your dog the right nutrition that's just you

00:20:47.820 know the key to having them thrive so that's what rough greens is built on and being a part of that

00:20:55.300 with him is something that i'm just incredibly proud of uh for listeners who haven't heard of

00:21:00.380 rough greens i'm going to spell it for you by the way so you can find it online if you look for it

00:21:03.880 It's R-U-F-F, greens.

00:21:06.700 And it really is an extraordinary range of products.

00:21:10.700 And it's made a huge difference for our dogs, and it will for your pets as well.

00:21:15.920 Now, your dad talks a lot about nutrition.

00:21:18.060 That's not a phase that most pet owners have ever focused on or even heard.

00:21:22.120 But what does it actually mean, and why does it matter so much?

00:21:25.100 Well, live nutrition and live nutrients are still built biologically active.

00:21:32.580 enzymes that still work probiotics that are still alive and vitamins that haven't been cooked away

00:21:38.140 that's what the dog food is missing it doesn't matter if it's the cheapest or the most expensive

00:21:44.440 kind it's all cooked so think about the difference between a fresh salad and a can of vegetables like

00:21:50.780 you can feel the difference between those two so both have nutritional value on paper but one has

00:21:58.560 live things in it and then the other one doesn't because it needs to be conserved for a long period

00:22:03.600 of time so essentially that's what we mean by dead nutrition and that's why rough greens

00:22:09.640 brings the life back to the food i think uh your your dad dr dennis black who's a great man in my

00:22:18.120 opinion says that pet owners really need to focus on three things joint issues digestive issues and

00:22:24.660 skin issues. In my experience, Rough Greens has helped my dogs in all three areas.

00:22:30.180 Why do these three things matter so much? Well, those are the three main things that we see

00:22:36.340 that older dog parents complain about, right? So think of this as the damage hasn't been done in

00:22:44.620 one day or in 15 days, so it can't be solved in 15 days. So let's start with joints, for example.

00:22:52.000 most owners don't realize that joint inflammation starts silently years before the dog actually

00:22:58.900 shows any symptoms. By the time your dog struggles to get up, the damage is made and unmaking that

00:23:06.840 takes time. So yeah, owners laugh it off and they're like, oh, my dog is fine. You know,

00:23:11.940 he can still jump on the couch or he can still go for the ball. But then when they start seeing

00:23:17.460 the symptoms long term they're like oh i wish i would have done something sooner to prevent this

00:23:22.960 and that's what dog owners don't understand that with rough screens that's what we're trying to do

00:23:28.040 we're trying to prevent your dog from having all these child issues in the future no i think you're

00:23:34.740 absolutely right most dog owners think that they're you know they're taking uh care of the

00:23:40.140 dogs by spending a lot of money on what they think is good food when in fact what they're

00:23:44.340 buying is processed food and really dead food really isn't enough. I found when we began using

00:23:51.160 the rough green products, within a week, instead of laying bed in the morning, by the time I got

00:23:56.680 up to make that first pot of espresso, my dogs were ready to play catch. They wanted to play

00:24:00.860 ball immediately. Their spark was back. Their energy was back. That sparkle in their eye was

00:24:06.440 back. And their coats improved almost immediately. Mimi, who is probably a little heavier than Pee

00:24:14.060 2.0 was having a joint problem those joint problems disappeared the vet even mentioned

00:24:21.280 it when we she went in for a checkup so i can tell people firsthand this is not conjecture this

00:24:27.240 is not hype rough greens really works it's an extraordinary range of products no absolutely

00:24:33.560 and it really works but all i want consumers understand is that it takes time you need to

00:24:41.340 give it at least 90 days to see the actual benefits of it so it's like humans you know

00:24:47.820 you don't take a supplement for two weeks and expect to be cured from whatever it is that you

00:24:52.680 feel unfortunately our dogs can't talk to us so they can't tell us that they're feeling better

00:24:58.960 but if you know your dog enough you can start seeing it like you said right away with little

00:25:04.520 things we certainly experienced the improvement almost immediately and it just kept getting

00:25:09.800 better and better now it is part of the regular routine for for our dogs i've recommended it to

00:25:15.940 my son my grandson just got a new dog recommended it to him he's already begun his new dog uh on

00:25:23.760 rough greens i i recommend this without reservation these are these are great products uh where can

00:25:29.860 people find rough greens and is there a way for people out there listening to try it without a

00:25:35.160 big commitment up front yes so we uh anybody who's listening can go to ruggsgreens.com and

00:25:43.040 that's russgreens.com um they can read your promo code which is stone and they can get a free jump

00:25:52.080 start trial bag which is a 15-day supply the the intention of the bag is for you to try it to see

00:25:58.800 if your dog eats it, and you will be getting a subscription

00:26:04.380 that you can cancel anytime online with us as well.

00:26:08.500 There you have it.

00:26:09.680 I'm a great admirer of Dr. Dennis Black,

00:26:11.820 and I will just talk to his daughter, Sarah,

00:26:14.340 who's deeply involved with this company.

00:26:16.160 He really is a visionary.

00:26:17.980 What he's done for our pets is really extraordinary.

00:26:21.200 I think he's actually probably saved us a lot of money in veterinary bills,

00:26:24.560 and I have happier, healthier dogs,

00:26:26.760 And that means I have a happier, healthier wife.

00:26:29.840 I want to thank you for joining us today on The Stone Zone.

00:26:32.380 And folks, go to Rough Greens.

00:26:34.420 Once again, that website.

00:26:36.280 One more time, Sarah.

00:26:37.880 That's russfgreens.com, roughgreens.com, and use promo code STONE.

00:26:43.700 Check it out, folks.

00:26:44.800 You'll be glad you did.

00:26:46.040 Sarah, God bless you.

00:26:47.720 Thank you, Roger.

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00:28:20.420 Well, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is moving forward with a new federal plan to help Americans safely taper off antidepressants when patients and doctors decide it's appropriate.

00:28:34.800 And of course, the backlash from Big Pharma was almost immediate.

00:28:38.660 The initiative would provide new clinical guidance, provide better provider training, update prescribing data, and Medicare and Medicaid billing support for supplies tapering off of these drugs.

00:28:52.300 Kennedy says too many Americans begin psychiatric medications without a clear understanding of the risks, the timelines, and how difficult it can be to stop.

00:29:01.220 This notion should not be controversial, but of course Big Pharma has these drugs as a cash cow.

00:29:08.660 HHS itself acknowledges that psychiatric drugs can play an important and sometimes essential role.

00:29:15.720 No one denies that. They can sometimes have value.

00:29:18.760 But Kennedy's approach has been more balanced.

00:29:21.260 Medication when needed, informed consent always,

00:29:24.920 and non-drug options like talk therapy, family support, and careful assessment should be given a fair chance first.

00:29:32.600 Yet major psychiatric organizations and mental health advocates are already pushing back.

00:29:38.140 Warning against blaming America's mental health crisis on overprescription.

00:29:43.640 In other words, they're worried about no longer getting the cushy payouts and bonuses that Big Pharma gives doctors for prescribing so many of these mind-bending drugs.

00:29:55.040 Some of them even concede that better tapering guidances and more evidence-based care are reasonable, but still they resist Secretary Kennedy's broader critique of overmedicalization.

00:30:07.100 The real issue here is that Big Pharma is no longer operating with the same level of automatic deference

00:30:13.540 inside the Health and Human Services Department and the Federal Drug Authority.

00:30:19.880 These bureaucracies are no longer captured like they were in previous administrations.

00:30:24.560 With RFK Jr. running the show, federal health agencies are taking their time to ask much tougher questions

00:30:31.080 about long-term medications and their use, the side effects, and issues like informed consent,

00:30:38.380 and whether patients have been pushed too quickly into what could be lifelong dependency.

00:30:44.300 This is why the resistance is so fierce. RFK Jr. is not banning antidepressants. If you read that,

00:30:51.280 that's disinformation. He is challenging a corrupted system that too often treats pills

00:30:57.240 as the first answer and accountability as the last.

00:31:01.780 Americans deserve transparency, choice, and health care that serves patients,

00:31:06.380 not pharmaceutical profits.

00:31:08.780 Meanwhile, a Trump house owner was targeted in a vicious murder.

00:31:13.680 In South California's Trump house owner was died after a brutal attack

00:31:17.820 outside his Escondido home in San Diego County.

00:31:22.660 Carrie Sherron, who was known locally for proudly covering his home with pro-Trump and MAGA flags,

00:31:29.860 passed away Sunday evening after nearly a week in critical condition.

00:31:35.200 Prosecutors say that 32-year-old Thomas Caleb Butler carried out what they described as an unprovoked assault on Sherron.

00:31:43.500 Butler has pleaded not guilty to charges including attempted murder, elder abuse, and battery.

00:31:50.200 Deputy District Attorney Ross Garcia said that Sharon was struck in the jaw, fell to the ground, and then was hit repeatedly in the head.

00:31:59.540 Butler remains jailed without bail, and prosecutors may upgrade the charges following Sharon's death.

00:32:05.540 Authorities have not determined a motive, but doesn't have to take a genius to figure out why an outspoken Trump supporter might be targeted and attacked in this way.

00:32:15.660 Sharon's house had drawn complaints and vandalism over the years

00:32:19.540 because of his outspoken patriotic and pro-Trump displays.

00:32:23.520 His wife of 20 years says she believes the flags may have played a role in his death.

00:32:29.400 Some liberal neighbors describe Butler as a troubled military veteran suffering from severe PTSD,

00:32:35.980 while conservatives say he supported President Trump, was a registered Republican, and a dedicated patriot.

00:32:41.900 This was a disgusting and depraved act of violence against an elderly man outside his own home.

00:32:49.580 It's not a stretch to call this an act of terrorism, in my opinion.

00:32:53.640 Fake news media and the Democrat Party have stoked the fires within their radicalized core of supporters for years,

00:33:00.640 and now they're increasingly acting out their deranged fantasies.

00:33:04.380 We saw this at the White House Correspondents' Dinner only weeks ago.

00:33:09.140 There's never been a more important time to exercise our First Amendment rights, but also recognize the importance of our Second Amendment rights than this very moment.

00:33:19.740 Meanwhile, this past Memorial Day weekend, a request from a gold star widow turned into a powerful reminder of what patriotism is all about.

00:33:30.300 On Sunday, an ex-unit called Cheryl Ann posted that she lived in Arkansas and could not make it to Arlington National Cemetery.

00:33:40.880 She asked whether anyone visiting Washington, D.C. might take a fresh photo of her late husband's grave,

00:33:47.980 which was located in Section 60 of Arlington's Rolling Hills at the Memorial Cemetery.

00:33:53.700 Her husband, Staff Sergeant Alan W. Shaw, died in 2007 in the service of his country.

00:34:01.620 Section 60 is among the most sacred grounds in America, serving as the final resting place for many service members who were killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the War on Terror.

00:34:13.180 The post was viewed nearly two million times.

00:34:15.920 Among those who saw it was the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:34:20.980 herself, a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserve, and an Iraq War veteran. So Tulsi Gabbard,

00:34:29.040 private citizen in this instance, visited the grave, paid her respects, and posted a photo for

00:34:34.760 Shaw's widow. She wrote that it was an honor to visit on the family's behalf, adding that the

00:34:39.940 nation owns a debt of gratitude to those who made the ultimate sacrifice, and to the loved ones they

00:34:46.240 left behind. Other Americans also visited, leaving flowers, taking photos, and saying Shaw's name.

00:34:54.380 The widow later said the response restored part of her faith in humanity and made her even prouder

00:34:59.520 to be an American. Gabbard's heartfelt gestures showed that in our country, the fallen are not

00:35:06.760 forgotten. Their families are not alone. So we honor their sacrifices. Tulsi Gabbard has done

00:35:13.080 everything in her power throughout her career in public service to make sure that the troops are

00:35:17.440 not put in harm's way abroad unless absolutely necessary. She'll soon be departing from her role

00:35:23.180 as the director of national intelligence as her husband Abraham has been diagnosed

00:35:28.340 with a very rare and dangerous bone cancer. Gabbard will be greatly missed as she is the

00:35:34.500 rare public servant with the courage to stand up to the deep state and the military industrial

00:35:39.760 complex and tell them no when they demanded more power for themselves at the expense of the heroic

00:35:46.360 troops who put in harm's way needlessly due to the Washington, D.C. bureaucrats who view them not as

00:35:52.560 human beings, but as pawns for foreign policy. As I commented in the show over the weekend and

00:36:00.140 yesterday, Tulsi Gabbard is among the most rare public servants that I have come across. She 1.00

00:36:06.560 leaves behind an extraordinary record. First of all, she declassified all of the documents

00:36:11.880 that proved that the Russian collusion claims were indeed a hoax. Even worse, she proved by

00:36:19.500 the declassification of documents that this was a seditious conspiracy, that Barack Obama and his

00:36:26.720 cabal of criminal cohorts knew from the very beginning that there was no Russian collusion,

00:36:32.680 There was no Russian interference in our 2016 elections, and they put together a complicated narrative with John Brennan shoving the so-called Steele dossier into the president's intelligence community report on any given day in order to rationalize the entire two-and-a-half-year Russian collusion hoax, which virtually crippled President Donald Trump in his first term.

00:36:59.220 Thanks to the courage of Tulsi Gabbard, who declassified those documents, as well as declassifying the documents that prove that the fake impeachment in which they claim that Donald Trump had threatened the president of Ukraine, when in fact it was Joe Biden who withheld $1 billion in American aid from Ukraine, unless they closed down the investigation into his corrupt son, Hunter Biden.

00:37:27.320 So it was Tulsi Gabbard who declassified those documents as well.

00:37:32.520 On top of that, of course, she fired 37 leakers, people who continued to have security clearances under Donald Trump,

00:37:40.780 many of whom were the signers of the famous letter in which multiple former and current intelligence officers

00:37:49.700 signed a letter saying that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation.

00:37:54.180 No, the country owes an enormous debt of gratitude to Tulsi Gabbard, and I respect her for walking away from a powerful job in order to take care of her sick husband.

00:38:04.280 We pray for his swift recovery.

00:38:06.260 But those who think Tulsi Gabbard is finished are completely wrong.

00:38:10.220 I've said it before on this show, and I will say it again.

00:38:12.900 I predict that she will be the first woman president of the United States. 0.65

00:38:16.720 Not in 2020-28, when I don't even think she's going to be a candidate, but she has a bright future.

00:38:22.180 I'm Roger Stone. Thanks for joining us today in the Stone Zone.

00:38:52.180 See you next time for a new episode so you never have to wonder.

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - May 26, 2026

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