The StoneZONE with Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:16.060 This is The Stone Zone, with Roger Stone.

00:00:19.920 People love him and respect him, Roger Stone.

00:00:22.620 Now, get in the zone, it's The Stone Zone.

00:00:26.520 Here's Roger Stone.

00:00:28.060 You are now entering The Stone Zone.

00:00:32.480 Susie Wiles is the first woman chief of staff to the President of the United States.

00:00:38.980 She is a woman who has always believed throughout her long and victorious political career

00:00:44.640 that good political operatives are seen but not heard.

00:00:49.360 Therefore, she very rarely gives interviews.

00:00:51.980 But she did give an interview with the great Miranda Devine of the New York Post.

00:00:56.400 And we're going to play just a little bit of it.

00:00:59.080 He cares so—he is truly a patriot and cares so deeply about this country.

00:01:04.860 And that's not something that he came to in 2016.

00:01:08.660 It's always been there.

00:01:10.640 I didn't know his dad or his early life.

00:01:14.740 But I have to believe that it comes from there.

00:01:17.800 And he—this country's given him everything.

00:01:21.940 And he believes this is his chance to begin to give back.

00:01:25.760 And I think he's right.

00:01:27.520 That's Susie Wiles talking about her boss, Donald J. Trump, being interviewed by the great Miranda Devine of the New York Post.

00:01:36.320 And you can find that interview, which is about 40 minutes long, on YouTube.

00:01:40.800 I highly, highly recommend it to you.

00:01:43.560 Well, in the wake of a CIA-released report last week that fingered former CIA director John Brennan as the main perp in the orchestration of the phony Russian collusion hoax,

00:02:01.180 the FBI has now opened a formal investigation into Brennan, as well as to Kray's former FBI director James Comey.

00:02:12.660 This has been a long time coming.

00:02:14.900 Now, it is my view, expressed yesterday, that based on my own sources, the CIA's report was kind of a shallow dive into the intelligence agency's misconduct

00:02:29.820 in the launching of what was a completely politicized and politically motivated operation known as Crossfire Hurricane.

00:02:40.000 The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rick Crawford, has gone public to say that the CIA's report is woefully inadequate,

00:02:52.060 that actually continues some of the same cover-up of these extraordinarily important issues.

00:02:59.660 His committee has been working on a more comprehensive report for eight months.

00:03:04.540 And I think it is Chairman Crawford's view that the CIA review was put out quickly to try to preempt the House Committee report.

00:03:15.880 The House Committee report, however, contains a great deal of classified information,

00:03:22.360 and therefore it will require declassification by the President of the United States before it can be released.

00:03:29.940 I'm highly confident that the President will make those documents public.

00:03:35.420 But the FBI director certainly had more than enough probable cause, based on the CIA report put out by CIA Director Ratcliffe,

00:03:46.960 to open the investigation into both Brennan and Comey.

00:03:51.400 Both Brennan and Comey have a serious problem in that they made false statements to Congress

00:03:57.200 and therefore could face perjury charges.

00:04:01.060 They have been widely accused, perhaps no more loudly by anyone other than me,

00:04:05.920 of abusing their power to perpetrate the conspiracy to undermine President Trump.

00:04:11.300 They believe they were above the law, they acted recklessly,

00:04:15.600 and now the chickens may well be coming home to roost.

00:04:19.160 Now, I was charged with lying to Congress, specifically lying about the Russian collusion hoax.

00:04:24.940 But then that's not possible because there was no Russian collusion.

00:04:29.940 In fact, Hakeem Jeffries posted on Twitter that I made a deal with President Donald Trump

00:04:36.660 to lie to cover up his misdeeds in return for a pardon.

00:04:41.440 If Hakeem Jeffries was not a member of Congress, I could sue him for that falsehood,

00:04:47.400 but he hides behind his status as a member under the debate clause.

00:04:54.100 Congressman, if you're listening, if you want to waive your congressional immunity,

00:04:58.380 I'd be happy to see you in court.

00:05:01.680 News of the impending charges come after the CIA review,

00:05:05.580 which outlined that John Brennan essentially pushed for the so-called Steele dossier

00:05:14.100 to be included in President Barack Obama's intelligence community assessment.

00:05:21.660 At the time, Brennan knew that the Steele dossier was a fabrication.

00:05:28.100 He knew that it had been paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign.

00:05:32.500 He knew that it had been compiled by a former British intelligence agent

00:05:38.380 for a company called GPS Fusion.

00:05:42.680 And they used the Steele report despite veteran intelligence officers

00:05:48.680 warning repeatedly that it was a fugazi,

00:05:52.020 and then lying about what they did after the conspiracy blew up in their faces.

00:05:57.740 Brennan actually testified before Congress in May of 2017,

00:06:02.500 where he stated that the Steele dossier was not in any way

00:06:06.600 the basis for the intelligence community's assessment

00:06:09.540 that Russiagate was built off of.

00:06:13.040 That is a material misstatement, and therefore a chargeable crime.

00:06:18.660 Brennan stated years later before Congress

00:06:21.120 that the CIA was very much opposed to having any reference

00:06:24.600 or inclusion of the Steele dossier in the intelligence community assessment.

00:06:29.960 That, of course, may be true to an extent, 0.99

00:06:33.460 but unfortunately it was the CIA director himself, John Brennan,

00:06:37.920 who enthusiastically pushed in favor of including the fake Steele dossier

00:06:43.460 in the ICA report that was given to Barack Obama.

00:06:49.020 Now, if you don't know John Brennan, he has quite a background.

00:06:52.360 He admitted on a lie detector test to being a member of the Communist Party

00:06:58.040 and to supporting the Communist Party candidate for president three times.

00:07:03.340 He was also the CIA station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia,

00:07:09.000 where he personally approved the visas for four of the men

00:07:14.380 who were involved in the 9-11 attack on America,

00:07:19.640 the so-called hijackers.

00:07:21.400 Brennan also got caught red-handed spying on a Senate committee

00:07:27.820 that was investigating CIA director John Brennan's illegal use of torture.

00:07:36.760 We also have a report from former CIA and, pardon me,

00:07:41.980 former FBI counterintelligence officer John Guandolo,

00:07:46.880 who insists that in an elaborate ceremony in Riyadh that Brennan converted to Islam.

00:07:55.920 In fact, he converted to Wahhabism, which is the most virulent and radical form of Islam. 1.00

00:08:04.780 Then, of course, there is NSA director James Clapper.

00:08:08.560 You remember him.

00:08:09.260 He's the guy who said under oath that the intelligence agencies were not collecting data on any American citizen

00:08:18.520 and that there was no metadata collection program in place.

00:08:25.220 Of course, all of that was disproved by Edward Snowden

00:08:30.540 when he released documents proving that Clapper was lying.

00:08:35.960 As it comes to the Russian collusion case,

00:08:39.800 former NSA director Clapper stated falsely before Congress

00:08:43.880 that the team that put together the intelligence community assessment

00:08:47.520 was not to draw on it as a source for the intelligence community assessment,

00:08:51.960 so you won't find a footnote using the dossier as a source.

00:08:56.100 In other words, he too lied about the use of the Steele dossier.

00:09:01.500 Because these deep state hacks put the Steele dossier in the appendix of their ICA,

00:09:08.320 their intelligence community assessment,

00:09:10.700 they thought they could slyly claim it was not used to devise the Russiagate scam.

00:09:16.980 But now that they have been caught,

00:09:19.680 and this is the thread that when pulled by the Trump administration

00:09:24.100 can bring down the entire deep state enterprise,

00:09:27.840 it's time for the Trump administration to become ambitious

00:09:30.460 in going after the interests of those who likely truly committed treason

00:09:35.500 to sabotage Trump's first term.

00:09:39.380 It's time for a messy public example to be made of

00:09:42.480 John Brennan, James Comey, James Clapper,

00:09:46.580 former deputy director Andrew McCabe,

00:09:49.280 and particularly assistant attorney general,

00:09:53.020 in this case acting attorney general, Rod Rosenstein.

00:09:57.060 Rosenstein actually testified before Congress

00:09:59.480 that he never approved the investigation into Roger Stone.

00:10:03.040 Yet we have the document that he signed on October 17th of 2018

00:10:09.660 when he did exactly that.

00:10:12.260 Once again, a material statement,

00:10:15.000 a violation of the False Statements Act.

00:10:17.540 In order to violate the False Statements Act,

00:10:20.000 your false statement must first of all be willful,

00:10:22.820 but secondarily it must be material,

00:10:25.280 meaning it can't be some frivolous accidental statement.

00:10:30.240 I still insist that if one looks at the charges against me,

00:10:34.260 you will see that there is no material misstatement.

00:10:38.340 One of the specific charges was that I lied

00:10:42.700 when I said that a New York radio personality,

00:10:45.920 Randy Credico,

00:10:47.460 told me that WikiLeaks had an extensive trove of information

00:10:53.040 on Hillary Clinton

00:10:54.960 and that Julian Assange would release it in October.

00:11:00.020 When I asked him how he knew that,

00:11:02.080 he said, and I quote,

00:11:03.260 I know a woman lawyer who works for WikiLeaks. 1.00

00:11:06.980 Now, don't ask any more questions.

00:11:09.960 I said that in my sworn testimony.

00:11:12.480 They said it was a lie.

00:11:14.240 I have a text message from Credico,

00:11:16.960 which has been authenticated,

00:11:18.580 which the judge would not allow my lawyers

00:11:20.880 to enter into evidence in my defense.

00:11:24.240 This is what you call a Soviet-style show trial.

00:11:27.420 It is definitely time, in my view,

00:11:30.860 to hold these government officials accountable.

00:11:34.200 The future of the rule of law

00:11:35.700 and the constitutional jurisprudence in this country

00:11:38.060 depends on it.

00:11:40.140 Meanwhile, we have learned that the USAID

00:11:43.340 sent bioweapons to the Wuhan lab. 0.69

00:11:46.740 That's right.

00:11:47.580 The U.S. Agency for International Development

00:11:49.880 has been revealed this week by the Daily Caller

00:11:53.140 for sending thousands of viruses

00:11:55.260 to the infamous Wuhan Research Lab

00:11:57.980 over the course of a decades-long span.

00:12:01.460 They did this even though they have

00:12:03.160 no formal agreement with the lab

00:12:04.720 with little or no oversight

00:12:06.740 over the dangerous operation.

00:12:09.620 USAID money resulted in 11,000 viral samples

00:12:14.500 being exported from the Wuhan province of China

00:12:18.700 over to Wuhan

00:12:20.000 through a $210 million public health grant

00:12:24.960 called PREDICT.

00:12:26.980 One of the viruses that was part of the USAID transfer

00:12:30.400 is closely tied to the infamous COVID-19 virus.

00:12:37.020 In response to this news,

00:12:38.840 a senior state department told the Daily Caller

00:12:41.780 investigations involving USAID's

00:12:44.860 former front of Global Health Awards

00:12:47.160 remains active and ongoing.

00:12:50.000 The American people can rest assured

00:12:51.860 knowing that under the Trump administration,

00:12:54.200 we will not be funding those programs again.

00:12:58.220 But we know that Dr. Anthony Fauci,

00:13:01.620 under questioning from Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky,

00:13:05.180 specifically denied funding the gain of function

00:13:10.360 of the COVID-19 vaccination in the Wuhan lab,

00:13:16.600 and that too was a lie.

00:13:18.940 Now, Fauci has a preemptive pardon from Joe Biden,

00:13:25.200 but it was signed by an auto pen.

00:13:27.200 And the way to test that preemptive pardon

00:13:29.440 is to charge Dr. Fauci.

00:13:32.860 He will argue in his legal defense

00:13:34.940 that he can't be prosecuted

00:13:36.540 because he's been pardoned,

00:13:38.540 and therefore the legality of the auto pen pardon

00:13:41.640 can be tested in a U.S. court of law.

00:13:44.580 I'm Roger Stone.

00:13:46.180 You're listening to The Stone Zone right here

00:13:48.440 on the Red Apple Audio Networks,

00:13:50.360 and we'll be right back with more political news

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00:14:41.860 President Donald Trump has been winning big

00:14:44.100 on foreign policy in recent weeks as he demonstrates,

00:14:47.360 like Republican presidents around Reagan,

00:14:50.240 Dwight Eisenhower, and Richard Dixon before him,

00:14:53.160 that peace through strength can benefit America greatly.

00:14:57.280 You see, the Trump foreign policy is a departure

00:14:59.540 from the neocon philosophy of the Bushes

00:15:03.260 where America went around the world

00:15:05.640 looking for wars to get into

00:15:07.300 where our inherent national interests

00:15:09.600 were never actually clear.

00:15:11.940 As you know, we were lied into war in Iraq,

00:15:16.120 told by President Bush

00:15:17.780 and particularly Vice President Dick Cheney

00:15:20.600 that the Iraqis, pardon me,

00:15:24.140 yes, the Iraqis had weapons of mass destruction

00:15:27.660 and that they had been involved

00:15:29.460 in the attack on America of 9-11.

00:15:31.860 Both false.

00:15:33.220 Thousands of Americans

00:15:34.680 and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis

00:15:36.800 lost their lives in that unnecessary

00:15:39.420 and senseless war.

00:15:42.060 Trump has now been nominated

00:15:43.340 for a Nobel Peace Prize by a number of people,

00:15:46.260 including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,

00:15:49.560 as well as the Tunica Biloxi Indian tribe of Louisiana,

00:15:53.780 who noticed that under the rules

00:15:57.200 of the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize Committee,

00:16:00.620 any sovereign nation may make a nomination.

00:16:04.440 And the U.S. government recognizes

00:16:06.240 the Indian tribe from Louisiana

00:16:08.400 as a sovereign nation.

00:16:10.160 So they have nominated President Trump.

00:16:13.340 Trump has also been nominated for the Peace Prize

00:16:15.520 by the Islamic Nation of Pakistan

00:16:17.840 for diffusing tensions between Pakistan

00:16:21.060 and their longtime enemy, India. 0.73

00:16:24.580 Pakistan nominated Trump for the Peace Prize

00:16:27.300 because, they said,

00:16:28.940 he demonstrated great strategic foresight

00:16:31.380 and stellar statesmanship

00:16:33.120 through robust diplomatic engagement

00:16:35.860 and that he de-escalated

00:16:39.700 a rapidly deteriorating situation.

00:16:42.500 Before Trump played the role of mediator,

00:16:44.900 India and Pakistan were on the brink 0.99

00:16:46.800 of yet another major conflict.

00:16:49.860 Pakistan has nuclear weapons.

00:16:52.760 Now the tensions have died down

00:16:54.860 and the region is no longer inflamed

00:16:57.420 as a direct result

00:16:59.140 of Donald Trump's peacemaking actions.

00:17:02.580 President Trump also received a pledge

00:17:04.900 from all of the NATO countries

00:17:07.060 to pay 5% of their GDP

00:17:10.420 to contribute to the common defense.

00:17:13.940 You may recall that in his first term,

00:17:16.800 President Trump pointed out

00:17:18.500 that all of our NATO allies

00:17:21.120 were greatly delinquent

00:17:23.380 in paying their dues.

00:17:24.980 In other words,

00:17:25.760 we were footing the bill

00:17:27.140 for the defense of these European nations.

00:17:30.740 Trump pledged that he would get

00:17:32.560 our NATO partners to stop

00:17:34.080 and force them to pay their fair share.

00:17:38.120 They have now done so.

00:17:40.040 NATO is no longer a subsidiary

00:17:42.480 of the U.S. government.

00:17:43.420 Now these European countries

00:17:44.940 will be forced to get off the dole

00:17:46.640 for their defense spending

00:17:48.200 because of Trump's impressive negotiating skills.

00:17:51.980 President Trump hasn't taken his eye off the ball

00:17:54.500 whereas across the globe,

00:17:55.820 even in Africa just two weeks ago.

00:17:57.840 Representatives from the Democratic Republic of Congo

00:18:00.580 and Rwanda,

00:18:02.180 who have been in a long and bloody war,

00:18:05.020 traveled to the White House

00:18:06.220 to sign a historic peace deal

00:18:09.080 next to President Donald Trump.

00:18:11.280 The greatest single title

00:18:13.440 that history can bestow

00:18:15.020 is that of Peacemaker

00:18:16.800 and it describes the Donald Trump

00:18:18.960 I know perfectly.

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00:18:37.500 Joining me now is Sam Antar.

00:18:40.500 Sam Antar is one of the most interesting individuals

00:18:42.920 I've ever come across.

00:18:44.620 He's a former certified public accountant

00:18:47.020 whose career trajectory took a remarkable turn.

00:18:50.280 He went from being the perpetrator

00:18:52.120 of one of the largest security fraud schemes

00:18:55.460 in American history

00:18:56.600 to being an investigator of financial fraud.

00:18:59.800 He was the chief financial officer

00:19:01.620 for Crazy Eddie.

00:19:02.660 You remember them?

00:19:03.320 A major consumer electronics change

00:19:05.520 in the Northeast during the 1980s.

00:19:07.640 Following his criminal conviction

00:19:09.880 and his paying his debt to society,

00:19:13.060 he reinvented himself

00:19:14.500 using his extraordinary forensic accounting skill

00:19:18.320 to ferret out white-collar fraud and crime.

00:19:23.160 His unique perspective

00:19:24.480 and his technical expertise

00:19:26.000 have made him an expert advisor

00:19:27.620 to government agencies,

00:19:29.720 law enforcement organizations,

00:19:30.960 law firms and accounting firms,

00:19:33.320 independent investment research firms,

00:19:35.640 hedge funds,

00:19:36.280 and other public companies.

00:19:38.340 He is one of the most meticulous researchers

00:19:41.200 that I have ever met.

00:19:42.920 And he's already established

00:19:44.320 quite a track record.

00:19:45.480 It was Sam Antar

00:19:46.320 who discovered the 22-year crime spree

00:19:49.700 in which New York Attorney General

00:19:52.140 Letitia James

00:19:53.480 engaged in multiple instances

00:19:55.580 of mortgage fraud.

00:19:57.420 Those conclusions

00:19:59.520 by Sam Antar

00:20:00.940 having now been referred

00:20:02.680 to the U.S. Justice Department

00:20:04.220 for prosecution.

00:20:06.400 Sam Antar

00:20:07.120 has had a new analysis

00:20:08.620 of the campaign

00:20:11.280 of Democrat nominee

00:20:13.060 Zoran Mamdani

00:20:15.480 that is mind-blowing.

00:20:17.540 Sam, welcome to the Stone Zone.

00:20:19.800 Thank you for having me on, Roger.

00:20:21.560 So, you were with us,

00:20:25.100 I don't know,

00:20:25.500 maybe it was a week ago,

00:20:27.100 and you pointed out

00:20:28.380 that on the New York City's campaign

00:20:31.160 finance board website

00:20:33.880 that the supposedly

00:20:35.660 grassroots-oriented,

00:20:38.520 people-powered campaign,

00:20:41.100 Mr. Mamdani,

00:20:42.820 had received zero

00:20:45.340 in small contributions

00:20:47.380 and that all of the money

00:20:49.440 raised had come

00:20:50.620 from bundlers

00:20:51.340 and that one

00:20:52.460 particular bundler

00:20:54.260 was responsible

00:20:55.620 for $1.6 million

00:20:57.200 of the $1.7 million

00:20:59.280 that the campaign raised.

00:21:01.440 In other words,

00:21:02.480 despite the fact

00:21:03.360 that millions of people

00:21:05.080 were following

00:21:06.380 Mamdani's campaign

00:21:07.360 on Instagram,

00:21:08.420 on YouTube,

00:21:09.540 on X,

00:21:10.660 on Facebook,

00:21:12.040 not a single person

00:21:13.300 pushed that donate button

00:21:15.020 on his website.

00:21:15.860 How Extraordinary.

00:21:17.700 And then,

00:21:18.500 suddenly,

00:21:19.360 after you and I

00:21:20.280 had this interview

00:21:21.080 and you published

00:21:22.120 your Extraordinary Exposé,

00:21:24.180 which you can find

00:21:25.000 at whitecollarfraud.com,

00:21:28.380 whammo,

00:21:29.000 overnight,

00:21:29.880 the New York City

00:21:30.640 election board

00:21:31.420 changed all

00:21:32.840 of that information.

00:21:34.180 Suddenly,

00:21:34.760 that major bundler

00:21:36.920 disappeared entirely,

00:21:38.820 and suddenly,

00:21:40.880 their contributions

00:21:41.840 and smaller donations

00:21:43.300 popped up

00:21:44.320 out of nowhere.

00:21:44.920 And, of course,

00:21:46.100 Politico,

00:21:46.800 which is not

00:21:47.820 a journalistic enterprise,

00:21:49.340 but which is a

00:21:50.240 propaganda front

00:21:51.340 for the Democrat Party,

00:21:53.040 dutifully reported

00:21:54.900 all of this

00:21:55.940 as if it was

00:21:56.640 Sam Antar

00:21:57.320 who made a mistake,

00:21:58.600 when, in fact,

00:21:59.400 it was the

00:22:00.140 city campaign

00:22:01.300 finance board

00:22:02.280 acting in an

00:22:03.760 act of subterfuge,

00:22:04.740 in my opinion.

00:22:05.860 Sam?

00:22:06.520 Not only that,

00:22:07.560 but it was the campaign's

00:22:08.640 mistake, too,

00:22:09.380 because even if,

00:22:11.040 I'm saying even if,

00:22:12.860 capital letters if,

00:22:13.760 even if the city

00:22:15.800 was at fault,

00:22:17.440 still the campaign

00:22:19.100 should have looked

00:22:20.280 at their own

00:22:20.980 data on the

00:22:23.120 campaign finance

00:22:24.240 board's website.

00:22:25.460 They didn't.

00:22:26.440 Okay?

00:22:26.680 This is just a way

00:22:28.360 of getting back at me,

00:22:30.020 and that's fine.

00:22:31.880 The other part

00:22:33.400 of the story,

00:22:34.080 which is extremely

00:22:34.960 important,

00:22:35.600 okay,

00:22:35.880 is that even though

00:22:37.520 he raised

00:22:38.520 $1.7 million,

00:22:39.700 and it's no longer

00:22:40.660 $1.6 of $1.7 million

00:22:42.700 in direct contribution,

00:22:44.940 I'm sorry,

00:22:45.680 even though he raised

00:22:46.340 $1.7 million,

00:22:47.760 and it's no longer

00:22:48.800 $1.6 million

00:22:49.900 was bundled,

00:22:51.420 there's still another

00:22:52.180 part of the ecosystem

00:22:53.120 that they chose

00:22:54.160 to ignore.

00:22:55.140 In other words,

00:22:56.300 he,

00:22:57.320 two PACs that are

00:22:58.780 completely aligned

00:22:59.720 with him,

00:23:00.340 raised over $2 million.

00:23:02.060 That's money,

00:23:03.200 okay,

00:23:03.660 that exceeds

00:23:04.660 the amount of money

00:23:05.780 he raised

00:23:06.720 from direct

00:23:07.780 contributions.

00:23:08.680 And when you look,

00:23:10.480 when you peel

00:23:11.020 at the layers,

00:23:11.880 you see exactly

00:23:12.880 who's behind

00:23:13.580 those PACs,

00:23:14.500 and you see

00:23:15.120 that he's not

00:23:15.720 running a

00:23:16.660 grassroots campaign.

00:23:17.960 I call it,

00:23:18.880 I call it

00:23:20.520 grassroots washing.

00:23:22.140 In other words,

00:23:22.740 he's pretending

00:23:23.600 to be a grassroots

00:23:24.400 campaign if you

00:23:25.280 look at layer one,

00:23:26.380 but when you go

00:23:26.980 to layer two,

00:23:27.800 you start seeing

00:23:28.520 the billionaires

00:23:29.380 that are behind him.

00:23:32.260 Yeah,

00:23:32.720 it's quite interesting.

00:23:34.140 The rhetoric

00:23:34.880 doesn't match

00:23:35.580 the record.

00:23:36.120 In other words,

00:23:36.480 he would have us

00:23:37.040 believe that this

00:23:37.660 is a people

00:23:38.660 powered campaign,

00:23:39.740 that he's running

00:23:40.680 against the dark

00:23:42.280 money and running

00:23:43.200 against the special

00:23:44.460 interests.

00:23:45.800 When in fact,

00:23:46.740 a piece that you

00:23:47.440 have up right now

00:23:48.360 exposes how he is

00:23:49.980 the recipient of

00:23:51.480 millions of dollars

00:23:52.480 in dark money.

00:23:54.840 This is,

00:23:55.780 by the way,

00:23:56.220 the same exact

00:23:57.420 psyop that we saw

00:23:59.940 in Kamala Harris's

00:24:01.700 campaign,

00:24:02.300 where immediately

00:24:02.920 after she was

00:24:04.260 anointed as a

00:24:06.000 nominee,

00:24:06.340 nominee,

00:24:06.600 a nominee

00:24:07.060 that not a

00:24:08.380 single Democrat

00:24:09.040 primary or

00:24:10.060 caucus voter

00:24:10.840 voted for,

00:24:12.920 not a candidate

00:24:15.160 who was chosen

00:24:15.900 in a completely

00:24:16.620 undemocratic

00:24:18.160 process,

00:24:19.320 and they

00:24:19.780 complain about

00:24:20.920 Donald Trump

00:24:21.400 trying to be a

00:24:21.960 king,

00:24:22.800 they inflate

00:24:24.360 the polls

00:24:24.940 by oversampling

00:24:26.140 Democrats to

00:24:27.060 make it look like

00:24:27.820 she is either

00:24:28.820 leading Trump

00:24:29.600 or tied with

00:24:30.720 him.

00:24:30.920 They flood her

00:24:32.060 campaign through

00:24:32.880 Act Blue

00:24:33.600 with small

00:24:35.340 donations from

00:24:36.280 donors that

00:24:37.120 either don't

00:24:37.860 exist,

00:24:38.660 or when you

00:24:39.040 contact them,

00:24:40.240 tell those

00:24:41.300 contacting them

00:24:42.020 that they made

00:24:42.800 no such

00:24:43.240 contributions.

00:24:44.280 Most of those

00:24:45.080 donors giving

00:24:45.740 many,

00:24:46.540 many,

00:24:46.840 many times.

00:24:48.240 By the way,

00:24:48.820 all that now

00:24:49.580 currently under

00:24:50.660 congressional

00:24:51.260 investigation.

00:24:53.020 And of course,

00:24:53.860 the handmaidens in

00:24:54.820 the fake news

00:24:56.200 media gobble this

00:24:57.240 stuff up,

00:24:58.240 creating this

00:24:59.420 psyop that she

00:25:00.620 was running a

00:25:01.860 viable campaign.

00:25:02.900 She lost,

00:25:03.460 we were told

00:25:04.060 going into

00:25:04.460 election day,

00:25:05.160 it was nip and

00:25:05.680 tuck,

00:25:06.380 she had a great

00:25:06.880 chance.

00:25:07.360 She lost every

00:25:08.060 swing state by

00:25:09.540 big numbers,

00:25:10.640 and she lost

00:25:11.680 the popular vote,

00:25:12.900 Donald Trump

00:25:13.520 being the first

00:25:14.020 Republican to

00:25:14.600 carry the

00:25:15.020 popular vote

00:25:15.680 in decades.

00:25:17.220 So I see the

00:25:18.680 same thing

00:25:19.100 happening here.

00:25:20.060 The rhetoric

00:25:20.600 sounds great.

00:25:22.580 It's a people

00:25:23.280 campaign in the

00:25:24.300 sense that they

00:25:26.060 falsify where

00:25:27.060 their money come

00:25:27.720 from,

00:25:28.040 then they use

00:25:28.680 that money

00:25:29.260 to spread

00:25:30.460 his populist

00:25:32.480 sounding agenda.

00:25:34.820 This is a

00:25:35.460 recycling of

00:25:36.160 the hope and

00:25:36.920 change that we

00:25:37.800 saw under

00:25:38.320 Obama.

00:25:38.960 It all sounds

00:25:40.040 great.

00:25:40.500 I mean,

00:25:40.960 free bus,

00:25:41.800 transportation,

00:25:42.680 that sounds

00:25:43.400 great to a

00:25:44.540 lot of people.

00:25:46.880 Defunding the

00:25:47.620 police,

00:25:48.480 opening Rikers

00:25:49.440 Island,

00:25:49.820 letting everybody

00:25:50.320 out,

00:25:50.960 not so great

00:25:51.700 if you ask

00:25:52.500 me.

00:25:53.360 So they

00:25:54.780 take this

00:25:55.720 elitist money,

00:25:57.520 I don't

00:25:57.900 let you break

00:25:58.400 this down

00:25:58.980 in a moment,

00:26:00.080 they take

00:26:00.540 this elitist

00:26:01.080 money,

00:26:01.600 they use

00:26:01.920 it for

00:26:02.180 mass

00:26:02.420 advertising,

00:26:03.580 and they

00:26:04.540 come up

00:26:05.180 with this

00:26:05.580 faux populist

00:26:06.900 agenda.

00:26:07.560 My final

00:26:08.040 point,

00:26:08.940 Memdami's 0.85

00:26:09.540 rise is

00:26:10.000 very much

00:26:10.340 like the

00:26:10.620 rise of

00:26:10.960 Donald

00:26:11.220 Trump.

00:26:11.920 He's

00:26:12.420 perceived

00:26:12.840 as an

00:26:13.320 outsider

00:26:13.920 challenging

00:26:14.960 a corrupted

00:26:15.740 system.

00:26:17.100 The difference

00:26:17.900 is their

00:26:19.040 prescription

00:26:19.680 to fix

00:26:20.760 it.

00:26:21.340 His

00:26:21.580 prescription

00:26:22.040 is known

00:26:23.480 as

00:26:23.740 communism,

00:26:25.260 and it

00:26:25.600 worse,

00:26:25.780 socialism.

00:26:27.260 If you

00:26:27.620 look at

00:26:28.000 his issue

00:26:28.780 agenda,

00:26:30.220 it is,

00:26:30.940 first of all,

00:26:31.340 soft on

00:26:31.800 crime,

00:26:33.140 do away

00:26:33.500 with cash

00:26:33.960 bail

00:26:34.220 entirely.

00:26:35.300 Essentially,

00:26:36.200 he says

00:26:36.860 that violence

00:26:37.380 is a

00:26:37.900 social

00:26:38.560 construct.

00:26:39.840 That

00:26:40.140 tells me

00:26:41.000 he's going

00:26:41.280 to open

00:26:41.700 Rikers

00:26:42.100 Island.

00:26:43.240 He wants

00:26:43.920 to defund

00:26:44.380 the police,

00:26:44.880 as I say,

00:26:45.800 and then

00:26:46.260 he wants

00:26:46.860 to raise

00:26:47.320 taxes on,

00:26:48.260 I'll be

00:26:48.500 saying,

00:26:48.940 white people.

00:26:49.780 That's what

00:26:50.100 he said.

00:26:50.800 He can't

00:26:51.360 unsay that,

00:26:52.200 although his

00:26:52.600 surrogates keep

00:26:53.100 saying,

00:26:53.520 well,

00:26:53.680 that's not

00:26:53.900 what he meant.

00:26:54.280 No,

00:26:54.480 that's

00:26:54.640 exactly

00:26:55.180 what he

00:26:55.820 meant.

00:26:56.400 Sam,

00:26:56.860 who are

00:26:57.200 the two

00:26:57.800 major

00:26:58.820 dark money

00:26:59.560 operations

00:27:00.100 that funded

00:27:01.160 this

00:27:01.680 grassroots

00:27:02.380 revolution?

00:27:03.760 Let me

00:27:04.080 get to

00:27:04.420 the first

00:27:04.920 one,

00:27:05.280 which is

00:27:05.580 really

00:27:05.860 interesting.

00:27:07.080 Out of

00:27:07.400 the $2

00:27:07.920 million

00:27:08.300 that spent

00:27:09.500 by these

00:27:09.940 PACs that

00:27:10.580 exceeded the

00:27:11.280 amount of

00:27:11.700 money he

00:27:12.660 raised

00:27:13.040 generically,

00:27:13.720 which is

00:27:14.000 $1.7

00:27:14.780 million,

00:27:15.460 $1.3

00:27:16.520 of that $2

00:27:17.080 million comes

00:27:18.060 from a PAC

00:27:18.940 called

00:27:19.440 New Yorkers

00:27:20.700 for Lower

00:27:21.300 Costs.

00:27:21.920 You think,

00:27:22.260 okay,

00:27:22.560 New Yorkers

00:27:23.180 for Lower

00:27:23.520 Costs.

00:27:23.880 It's

00:27:24.360 New Yorkers,

00:27:24.940 right?

00:27:25.500 But 71%

00:27:26.860 of the

00:27:27.360 money that

00:27:28.520 went into

00:27:29.140 that PAC

00:27:29.760 came from

00:27:30.820 out-of-towners.

00:27:31.900 And these

00:27:32.340 were not

00:27:32.740 regular

00:27:33.160 out-of-towners.

00:27:34.140 These were

00:27:34.720 billionaires.

00:27:36.280 And people

00:27:37.180 from out-of-state.

00:27:39.520 You know,

00:27:39.940 it's,

00:27:40.980 and they're

00:27:41.960 pretending to be

00:27:42.780 New Yorkers.

00:27:43.440 They're not

00:27:43.760 New Yorkers.

00:27:44.620 They don't have

00:27:45.120 to live with

00:27:45.520 the consequences

00:27:46.340 of putting

00:27:46.800 this guy in.

00:27:47.860 They're just,

00:27:48.320 you know,

00:27:48.700 they're just

00:27:49.340 supporting him.

00:27:51.100 One of the

00:27:51.800 tech billionaires

00:27:52.500 that supported

00:27:53.620 this PAC

00:27:54.160 is a guy

00:27:54.540 by the name

00:27:54.960 Tom Preston

00:27:56.520 Werner.

00:27:57.400 He's the

00:27:57.780 co-founder of

00:27:58.640 GitHub.

00:27:59.280 He gave

00:27:59.580 him $20,000.

00:28:01.980 The big

00:28:02.700 money that

00:28:03.140 comes into

00:28:03.560 this PAC

00:28:04.040 comes from

00:28:04.460 out-of-towners.

00:28:05.080 A guy

00:28:06.140 by the name

00:28:06.580 Munib

00:28:07.100 Azhar,

00:28:08.160 $151,000.

00:28:10.240 This guy

00:28:10.600 Ali,

00:28:12.380 another $100,000.

00:28:14.760 Zaman,

00:28:15.400 another $100,000.

00:28:16.520 All of these

00:28:17.060 people,

00:28:17.900 okay,

00:28:18.160 40% of the

00:28:19.240 money going

00:28:19.700 into this PAC

00:28:20.460 came from

00:28:21.060 just five

00:28:21.540 people,

00:28:22.040 and they're

00:28:22.280 all out-of-towners.

00:28:23.880 So between

00:28:24.480 the billionaires

00:28:25.620 and the

00:28:26.060 out-of-towners

00:28:26.560 and the

00:28:26.900 billionaire

00:28:27.180 out-of-towners,

00:28:28.100 you know,

00:28:28.680 it makes it

00:28:29.180 look like

00:28:29.580 it's grassroots,

00:28:30.720 but it's

00:28:31.160 not grassroots.

00:28:32.180 71% of the

00:28:33.360 money came

00:28:34.100 from out-of-town

00:28:34.880 donors.

00:28:35.720 That is

00:28:36.180 number one.

00:28:37.400 Number two

00:28:38.020 is you have

00:28:38.580 the Working

00:28:39.140 Families

00:28:41.140 Party PAC.

00:28:42.780 They spent

00:28:44.020 $762,000

00:28:46.140 to help

00:28:48.780 Momdani

00:28:49.340 and also

00:28:50.300 oppose

00:28:50.920 Cuomo,

00:28:51.920 okay?

00:28:52.780 The Working

00:28:53.460 Families

00:28:54.020 PAC received

00:28:55.060 $300,000.

00:28:56.500 This is where

00:28:56.720 you go

00:28:57.000 layers deep.

00:28:58.180 The Working

00:28:58.740 Families

00:28:59.160 Party

00:28:59.620 received

00:29:00.020 $300,000

00:29:01.060 from another

00:29:03.180 PAC called

00:29:04.320 Leaders We

00:29:05.100 Deserve,

00:29:06.180 okay?

00:29:06.940 Leaders We

00:29:07.500 Deserve,

00:29:08.200 according to

00:29:08.800 a Democratic

00:29:09.500 analyst,

00:29:10.180 a guy that's

00:29:10.780 a Democrat,

00:29:12.920 only spends

00:29:13.900 28% of its

00:29:15.120 money on

00:29:15.520 Democratic

00:29:16.000 candidates,

00:29:16.760 and the rest

00:29:17.320 go to their

00:29:17.960 cronies.

00:29:20.220 Another point

00:29:21.340 to make is

00:29:22.900 that this PAC

00:29:24.620 is backed

00:29:25.380 by

00:29:25.660 Phoebe

00:29:26.220 Gates,

00:29:27.660 daughter to

00:29:29.680 billionaire

00:29:30.120 Bill and

00:29:31.140 Melinda Gates,

00:29:32.280 Steven Spielberg,

00:29:33.940 and this guy

00:29:34.620 Ronald Conway,

00:29:35.820 who was the

00:29:36.440 Silicon Valley

00:29:37.280 godfather,

00:29:38.260 who invested

00:29:38.820 early in

00:29:39.660 Google and

00:29:40.320 Facebook.

00:29:41.060 Now,

00:29:41.680 I doubt that

00:29:42.500 Spielberg is

00:29:43.500 anti-Israel,

00:29:44.560 but does he

00:29:45.020 know where

00:29:45.340 his money is

00:29:46.040 going?

00:29:46.820 Does he know

00:29:47.280 what people are

00:29:48.180 doing with the

00:29:48.660 money and what

00:29:49.380 he's attaching

00:29:49.960 himself to?

00:29:50.940 These organizations,

00:29:52.500 okay, are funded

00:29:53.620 by billionaires.

00:29:54.480 They're not me

00:29:55.300 and you and

00:29:56.440 mom and pops

00:29:57.360 and our

00:29:58.500 uncles and

00:29:59.160 cousins.

00:29:59.480 Now,

00:29:59.940 these are

00:30:00.300 people that

00:30:01.220 are very,

00:30:01.820 very wealthy

00:30:02.360 that are

00:30:02.800 behind the

00:30:03.500 Mamdani

00:30:03.920 campaign.

00:30:04.820 Everything

00:30:05.140 else is

00:30:05.720 just the

00:30:06.160 front.

00:30:07.980 Excellent,

00:30:08.840 excellent

00:30:09.240 analysis.

00:30:10.840 It is

00:30:11.420 interesting here,

00:30:12.780 key takeaway,

00:30:13.540 as you point

00:30:13.960 out, that

00:30:14.920 PAC spending

00:30:15.860 to benefit

00:30:16.720 Mamdani's

00:30:17.520 direct campaign

00:30:18.220 contributions

00:30:18.820 were 18.4%

00:30:20.960 greater than

00:30:22.100 what the

00:30:22.460 candidate himself

00:30:23.660 raised for

00:30:24.560 his own

00:30:25.180 campaign.

00:30:25.920 So much for

00:30:26.840 the idea

00:30:27.380 that his

00:30:28.180 campaign was

00:30:29.300 about rejecting

00:30:30.180 elitist influence

00:30:31.580 and was a

00:30:33.440 challenge to

00:30:34.240 dark money.

00:30:36.100 Everything about

00:30:36.940 this guy seems

00:30:37.700 to be relatively

00:30:39.120 fraudulent,

00:30:40.580 but his agenda

00:30:41.560 for New York

00:30:42.040 City is not

00:30:43.200 fraudulent.

00:30:43.880 It's downright

00:30:44.960 dangerous.

00:30:45.620 I had a

00:30:46.280 vigorous conversation

00:30:47.380 with former

00:30:48.300 Congressman Pete

00:30:49.200 King on the

00:30:50.160 radio the other

00:30:50.740 day.

00:30:51.100 I have huge

00:30:51.560 respect for

00:30:52.120 Pete King.

00:30:52.840 He was a

00:30:53.380 great member

00:30:53.920 of Congress.

00:30:54.980 He seems to

00:30:56.300 favor

00:30:56.700 former Mayor

00:30:57.780 Eric Adams,

00:30:59.300 and I think

00:31:00.220 Congressman King

00:31:02.300 would like to

00:31:02.800 see the field

00:31:03.520 narrowed to

00:31:04.760 give Adams a

00:31:06.300 better chance

00:31:07.000 to stop

00:31:07.520 Mamdani.

00:31:08.560 I respectfully

00:31:09.580 disagreed with

00:31:10.520 him, despite

00:31:11.000 the fact that

00:31:11.720 our disagreement

00:31:12.680 doesn't diminish

00:31:13.540 in any way

00:31:14.200 my admiration

00:31:15.500 and respect for

00:31:16.300 Pete King.

00:31:17.280 He's a great

00:31:18.080 American patriot.

00:31:19.560 But I do

00:31:20.700 see the

00:31:21.960 frustration

00:31:22.580 of the

00:31:24.060 divided

00:31:24.920 operation.

00:31:26.180 I've talked

00:31:26.720 to Curtis

00:31:27.280 Slewa,

00:31:27.840 the Republican

00:31:28.300 nominee.

00:31:29.940 Wild horses

00:31:30.700 could not get

00:31:31.380 him out of

00:31:32.380 this race.

00:31:33.500 Eric Adams

00:31:34.200 is the

00:31:35.140 incumbent.

00:31:36.200 He's filed

00:31:37.000 as an

00:31:37.780 independent.

00:31:38.960 All public

00:31:39.720 polls and

00:31:40.320 private polls

00:31:40.920 show him

00:31:41.360 running last,

00:31:42.480 by the way,

00:31:43.480 in this

00:31:43.900 contest.

00:31:44.880 I think he

00:31:45.860 is committed

00:31:46.600 to the race

00:31:47.320 as a,

00:31:48.220 perhaps as a

00:31:48.680 way to stay

00:31:49.060 out of prison.

00:31:49.600 There's still

00:31:50.080 three sealed

00:31:53.240 indictments

00:31:54.040 against him.

00:31:55.280 And then,

00:31:55.760 of course,

00:31:55.960 you have

00:31:56.260 former

00:31:56.940 Governor

00:31:57.800 Andrew Cuomo.

00:31:59.600 Andrew Cuomo

00:32:00.320 is a political

00:32:01.660 animal,

00:32:02.700 but I also

00:32:03.880 think his

00:32:04.640 time may

00:32:05.280 have passed.

00:32:06.200 He's carrying

00:32:06.780 very, very

00:32:07.540 substantial

00:32:08.180 negatives

00:32:08.940 because of

00:32:10.700 the Me Too

00:32:11.920 charges against

00:32:13.020 him and the

00:32:13.900 systematic,

00:32:15.000 I would say,

00:32:17.040 deconstruction of

00:32:18.060 Andrew Cuomo

00:32:18.700 by Attorney

00:32:20.340 General

00:32:21.100 Leticia.

00:32:22.300 Nobody is

00:32:23.260 above the

00:32:23.700 law,

00:32:24.160 James.

00:32:25.780 But he

00:32:27.140 still continues

00:32:27.960 to run

00:32:28.480 second in

00:32:29.600 the race.

00:32:30.420 Whether he

00:32:30.760 will continue

00:32:31.420 to run

00:32:32.360 as an

00:32:32.860 independent,

00:32:33.400 having

00:32:33.660 qualified for

00:32:34.760 an independent

00:32:35.240 line,

00:32:35.860 is probably

00:32:37.140 the hottest

00:32:38.180 question in

00:32:39.140 New York

00:32:39.440 political

00:32:39.860 circles.

00:32:41.160 If he

00:32:41.960 were to

00:32:42.400 withdraw,

00:32:43.500 where does

00:32:44.180 his vote

00:32:44.660 redistribute?

00:32:45.480 Most of

00:32:45.840 them are

00:32:46.160 Democrats,

00:32:46.920 but they're

00:32:47.720 not socialist

00:32:48.520 Democrats.

00:32:49.200 They're not

00:32:49.880 likely to be

00:32:50.960 progressive

00:32:51.760 Democrats.

00:32:53.060 Do they

00:32:53.680 go to

00:32:54.220 Adams?

00:32:54.680 It's unlikely

00:32:55.280 that they

00:32:55.700 go to

00:32:56.380 Sliwa,

00:32:56.680 but Sliwa

00:32:57.460 did get

00:32:57.940 30% of

00:32:59.000 the vote,

00:32:59.860 which is

00:33:00.360 actually a

00:33:00.800 high water

00:33:01.160 mark for

00:33:01.600 Republicans

00:33:02.020 in his

00:33:02.480 last race

00:33:03.980 for mayor.

00:33:05.080 It's an

00:33:05.600 intriguing race.

00:33:06.460 We're going

00:33:06.640 to be following

00:33:07.260 it very

00:33:07.720 closely here

00:33:08.460 in the

00:33:09.060 Stone Zone.

00:33:09.840 If you're

00:33:10.160 just tuning

00:33:10.560 in,

00:33:10.980 we're talking

00:33:11.520 to Sam

00:33:12.460 Antar.

00:33:13.480 He is the

00:33:14.620 editor and

00:33:15.340 publisher of

00:33:16.060 whitecollarfraud.com,

00:33:18.400 whitecollarfraud.com.

00:33:20.000 I urge you to

00:33:20.520 check out his

00:33:21.080 website.

00:33:22.140 He's laid out

00:33:23.000 all the

00:33:23.420 documentation of

00:33:24.800 all of the

00:33:25.700 numbers that

00:33:26.480 we talk about

00:33:27.640 here today,

00:33:29.080 and he's

00:33:29.960 demonstrated

00:33:30.740 that the

00:33:32.040 Mondami campaign,

00:33:33.020 which is being

00:33:33.360 told is a

00:33:34.040 grassroots

00:33:34.440 phenomena,

00:33:35.700 is actually

00:33:36.540 being financed

00:33:37.400 with dark

00:33:37.960 money,

00:33:38.680 with big

00:33:39.440 contributions

00:33:40.140 from elites,

00:33:42.220 and it's

00:33:43.680 amazing how

00:33:44.520 the city's

00:33:45.700 campaign finance

00:33:47.080 board website,

00:33:48.920 once Sam

00:33:49.980 Antar revealed

00:33:50.920 that they

00:33:51.400 showed no

00:33:52.020 small contributions

00:33:52.880 and all of

00:33:53.980 their money

00:33:54.400 coming through

00:33:55.000 one bundler,

00:33:56.340 completely changed

00:33:57.280 that overnight.

00:33:58.600 You're listening

00:33:59.160 to the Stone

00:33:59.660 Zone.

00:34:00.000 I'm Roger Stone.

00:34:00.900 Whatever you do,

00:34:01.400 don't touch that

00:34:01.940 dial because

00:34:02.700 we'll be right

00:34:03.920 back.

00:34:05.160 The Stone

00:34:06.140 Zone on the

00:34:07.360 Red Apple Podcast

00:34:08.600 Network.

00:34:09.100 And we're

00:34:20.380 back in the

00:34:21.420 Stone Zone

00:34:22.140 with Sam

00:34:23.040 Antar,

00:34:24.000 the fraud

00:34:25.120 investigator

00:34:26.080 extraordinaire.

00:34:27.740 Sam,

00:34:28.520 you wanted

00:34:28.900 to comment

00:34:29.680 on Curtis

00:34:30.600 Sliwa's

00:34:31.420 campaign for

00:34:32.680 mayor.

00:34:33.720 Yes,

00:34:34.020 in contrast

00:34:34.840 to the

00:34:35.880 propaganda

00:34:36.960 you get

00:34:37.420 that

00:34:37.960 Zoram

00:34:39.180 Mamdani

00:34:39.700 is a

00:34:40.080 grassroots

00:34:40.480 candidate.

00:34:41.600 The only

00:34:42.040 real

00:34:42.640 grassroots

00:34:43.340 candidate

00:34:43.920 in this

00:34:44.740 race is

00:34:45.360 Curtis Sliwa.

00:34:46.920 He only

00:34:47.720 raised

00:34:48.220 $300,000

00:34:49.360 in private

00:34:50.260 funds versus

00:34:51.580 Mamdani

00:34:52.220 $1.7

00:34:53.240 million.

00:34:54.060 He spent

00:34:55.000 only $250,000

00:34:57.080 compared to

00:34:58.540 Mamdani

00:34:59.100 excluding

00:34:59.920 PACs of

00:35:00.940 about $8.7

00:35:02.840 million.

00:35:03.880 Okay,

00:35:04.520 so on

00:35:05.780 yield per vote,

00:35:06.900 dollar per vote,

00:35:07.660 Sliwa is 0.82

00:35:09.660 spending far

00:35:10.320 less money

00:35:10.940 to get

00:35:11.660 far more

00:35:12.880 votes.

00:35:13.900 So therefore,

00:35:14.820 he is the

00:35:15.320 only candidate

00:35:16.160 that I could

00:35:16.920 see,

00:35:17.260 I'm looking at

00:35:17.760 the data

00:35:18.140 right over

00:35:18.540 here in

00:35:18.820 front of

00:35:19.100 me,

00:35:19.720 that is

00:35:20.320 grassroots.

00:35:20.880 Yeah,

00:35:21.480 it's very

00:35:21.880 interesting.

00:35:22.520 According to

00:35:22.820 the New York

00:35:23.260 campaign finance

00:35:24.160 board's

00:35:24.540 filing,

00:35:25.100 the working

00:35:25.400 families

00:35:25.860 national PAC

00:35:26.820 is led

00:35:27.220 by Joe

00:35:28.340 Dinkin,

00:35:28.880 who also

00:35:29.280 serves as

00:35:29.900 the national

00:35:30.880 deputy director

00:35:31.820 of the

00:35:32.120 working families

00:35:32.740 party,

00:35:33.440 while its

00:35:34.180 treasurer is

00:35:35.000 a Mike

00:35:35.600 Bolin holds 0.88

00:35:36.320 the position

00:35:36.820 of chief

00:35:37.680 of staff

00:35:38.240 to the

00:35:38.600 national

00:35:39.140 working

00:35:39.800 families

00:35:40.200 party.

00:35:40.520 The PAC's

00:35:41.280 mission statement

00:35:41.920 explicitly states

00:35:42.920 that it exists

00:35:43.540 to support

00:35:44.680 candidates endorsed

00:35:45.520 by the

00:35:45.880 working families

00:35:46.560 party.

00:35:47.120 Okay,

00:35:47.480 so far,

00:35:48.200 so good.

00:35:49.160 And it's

00:35:49.740 spending a

00:35:50.400 reflexes

00:35:51.160 alignment.

00:35:51.720 Every dollar

00:35:52.260 in direct

00:35:53.180 sport went

00:35:53.840 to candidates

00:35:54.480 with the

00:35:54.940 working family

00:35:55.440 party's

00:35:55.960 official

00:35:56.640 2025

00:35:57.400 rank choice

00:35:58.680 endorsement

00:35:59.340 slate.

00:35:59.700 but another

00:36:01.400 $540,000

00:36:03.040 was spent

00:36:04.540 attacking the

00:36:05.380 working families

00:36:06.020 nemesis,

00:36:06.960 Andrew Cuomo.

00:36:08.320 This

00:36:08.760 organizational

00:36:09.360 structure,

00:36:10.080 if you ask

00:36:10.460 me,

00:36:11.160 raises serious

00:36:11.920 questions about

00:36:12.860 this institutional

00:36:14.300 alignment,

00:36:14.960 complies with

00:36:15.560 New York City

00:36:15.980 campaign finance

00:36:16.960 rules,

00:36:17.580 specifically

00:36:18.040 rule 5-03

00:36:20.860 section E,

00:36:22.220 which requires

00:36:22.860 independence

00:36:23.920 between campaigns

00:36:25.380 and expenditure

00:36:26.040 committees,

00:36:27.020 the systematic

00:36:27.560 coordination between

00:36:28.580 party endorsements

00:36:29.520 and PAC spending

00:36:30.740 suggests that the

00:36:32.140 independence party

00:36:33.220 may have been

00:36:34.540 more than

00:36:35.360 structurally

00:36:36.040 operational.

00:36:37.240 This funding

00:36:37.820 structure actually

00:36:38.680 fundamentally questions

00:36:39.860 how authentic

00:36:42.000 this is.

00:36:43.380 How does a

00:36:43.980 $300,000

00:36:44.960 transfer from

00:36:46.260 a PAC that

00:36:47.000 spent 72% of

00:36:48.620 its money on

00:36:49.620 consultant enrichment

00:36:50.560 represent the

00:36:51.580 authentic

00:36:52.380 grassroots

00:36:53.060 support that

00:36:54.180 formed the

00:36:54.940 foundation of

00:36:56.200 Mandami's 0.67

00:36:56.840 political brand?

00:36:58.520 That is

00:36:58.940 correct,

00:36:59.520 and also

00:37:00.180 as I go

00:37:01.760 deeper,

00:37:02.400 because right

00:37:03.340 now we're at

00:37:03.880 layer 2,

00:37:04.420 we'll get to

00:37:04.840 layer 3

00:37:05.300 eventually,

00:37:06.500 but as you

00:37:07.220 can see that

00:37:08.260 a lot of

00:37:08.780 these entities

00:37:09.400 supporting

00:37:10.140 Mandami have 1.00

00:37:11.880 overlapping

00:37:12.780 managements.

00:37:14.660 This one's a

00:37:15.220 treasurer here,

00:37:16.220 Wallace

00:37:16.540 secretary there,

00:37:17.700 this one is the

00:37:18.600 head of the PAC

00:37:20.700 here,

00:37:21.460 where he's the

00:37:22.240 co-head of

00:37:22.820 another PAC.

00:37:23.400 We have a

00:37:24.800 situation here

00:37:25.760 where it's just

00:37:26.900 a game of

00:37:28.200 musical chairs.

00:37:29.660 That's all

00:37:30.120 it is.

00:37:31.220 And this

00:37:31.820 is very,

00:37:32.300 very

00:37:32.460 professionally

00:37:33.140 structured.

00:37:35.340 So while

00:37:35.980 it may be,

00:37:37.040 let's say it

00:37:38.420 is within the

00:37:39.060 law, it

00:37:39.700 violates the

00:37:40.560 spirit of the

00:37:41.240 law at the

00:37:42.380 very least.

00:37:43.800 And personally,

00:37:44.440 I don't think

00:37:45.180 it's within the

00:37:45.820 law, but that's

00:37:46.800 for lawyers to

00:37:47.480 determine and

00:37:48.140 for federal

00:37:48.640 investigators.

00:37:49.880 But for

00:37:50.960 sure it

00:37:51.540 violates the

00:37:52.360 spirit of the

00:37:52.860 law.

00:37:53.020 So in

00:37:53.620 substance,

00:37:54.640 maybe not in

00:37:55.360 legal form,

00:37:56.120 they are

00:37:56.420 breaking the

00:37:57.020 law.

00:37:57.440 All right,

00:37:57.820 I want to

00:37:58.140 thank our

00:37:58.780 guest, Sam

00:38:00.120 Antar.

00:38:00.860 Again, he

00:38:01.280 is the

00:38:01.600 editor and

00:38:02.160 publisher of

00:38:02.940 whitecollarfraud.com,

00:38:05.620 an incredible

00:38:06.180 website.

00:38:07.120 Urge you to

00:38:07.660 check it out

00:38:08.200 because the

00:38:09.120 great thing

00:38:09.480 about Sam is

00:38:10.340 he documents

00:38:11.140 with the

00:38:11.620 actual documents

00:38:12.700 everything that

00:38:14.240 he says here

00:38:14.860 on the show

00:38:15.560 and everything

00:38:16.320 he says in

00:38:17.100 his great

00:38:18.060 commentary.

00:38:19.360 I also want

00:38:19.940 to thank you

00:38:20.320 for joining us

00:38:21.220 five days a week

00:38:22.480 in the Stone

00:38:23.520 Zone where

00:38:24.000 we talk

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00:38:30.240 because, well,

00:38:31.060 I love to

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