The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - The Stone Zone ｜ 09-24-25

00:00:00.380 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:00:07.480 You are now entering the Stone Zone.

00:00:11.080 Tonight, it's Roger Stone in the zone and on the phone.

00:00:15.720 We're going to be taking your calls live at 800-848-9222.

00:00:21.100 That's 800-848-9222.

00:00:24.700 Or you can email us your questions at AskStone at StoneZone.com.

00:00:31.560 AskStone at StoneZone.com.

00:00:33.880 But first, I want to talk to you about a case that should disturb every parent in New York, if not across the country.

00:00:43.040 Mark Fishman, a Bronx father of four, has been sentenced to 45 days in jail following a ruling in Westchester County, New York Supreme Court.

00:00:53.000 And after a contentious trial hearing.

00:00:56.620 Now, Mark Fishman is a gentleman who lives with traumatic brain injury, tinnitus-related hearing impairment, cognitive occipital neuralgia, and post-concussion memory loss from multiple car accidents.

00:01:11.080 Mark Fishman says that the Westchester County courts, the Westchester County, New York District Attorney, and New York State Attorney General Letitia James are treating him unfairly.

00:01:23.960 His sentencing comes nearly a decade after an incident in which police arrested Mr. Fishman during a court-ordered, bi-monthly supervised visitation with his children on December 15, 2018.

00:01:37.220 A visit fully prepaid and supported by a 22-page visitation order granting him access to his autistic son from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.

00:01:49.840 A court-approved supervisor and disability aide were both present, and the supervisor had confirmed the visitation in writing earlier that very day.

00:01:59.700 Now, in withheld police video and audio, which was only obtained by Mr. Fishman through his federal lawsuit against those who are oppressing him, the now terminated arresting officer in this case, one Lane Schlesinger, is heard telling Mr. Fishman's disability aide that Mr. Fishman had no intent to commit any crime.

00:02:23.320 Nonetheless, Mark Fishman was arrested at 11.35 a.m. during his prepaid Super 5 visit with his son on allegations tied to an unserved order of protection.

00:02:36.820 Neither the jury nor his defense team was ever shown the exculpatory evidence.

00:02:42.100 Then, on July 16, 2020, after years of legal battles, a federal appeals court ordered the transcription as an ADA accommodation in his case, yet Judge David Zuckerman has refused to grant a retrial despite knowing that Mr. Fishman could not fully participate in his own defense.

00:03:03.860 Joining us now is the father in question, Mark Fishman.

00:03:08.000 I know that you have to likely submit to incarceration here very shortly.

00:03:14.060 I'm glad that you could join us to tell this horrific story to our audience here in the Stone Zone.

00:03:19.500 Welcome into the zone.

00:03:21.740 Thank you, Roger.

00:03:22.780 Thank you for having me, and thank you for giving the time to talk about a subject which is taboo, disability discrimination.

00:03:30.700 I'm not accommodating, you know, those who have disabilities, especially invisible disabilities, you know, like hearing impairment from tinnitus or brain injury from a traumatic car accident, you know, or PTSD or other mental impairments.

00:03:48.100 You know, society marginalizes us, labels us, belittles us.

00:03:51.580 And, unfortunately, many judges have no empathy, no patience, don't accommodate us.

00:03:57.460 And, you know, we're forced to go to federal court and spend years on litigation just to try to get the American with Disabilities Act and Rehabilitation Act enforced to protect many of us.

00:04:07.380 I saw you on the Sal Greco show on Rumble.

00:04:14.300 You were terrific, and it really moved me to talk about your case here on the show and also to post information on my various social media platforms.

00:04:23.940 I really feel for you as a father.

00:04:27.740 This is a horrific tale.

00:04:29.480 But why has your alleged misdemeanor over a child custody visitation turned into a seven-plus-year legal battle, which has to have cost you a fortune?

00:04:41.460 Well, Roger, you know, when David faces Goliath, you know, Goliath, which is the New York court system, and the Westchester judges have enormous resources.

00:04:51.020 To answer your question and try to be as brief as possible, you know, after I was convicted in a trial of attempting to violate an order of protection I never received,

00:05:01.700 and actually violating an order of protection I never received for not going on a property,

00:05:06.280 I went to return to court for the DA to argue that my kids should have a lifetime order of protection.

00:05:12.340 I wasn't charged or prosecuted with violating any of my kids, my four kids, Joanna, Jonah, and this guy.

00:05:22.740 Yet the DA, you know, tried, not once, not twice, but over nine appearances, Roger, the next year and a half, to just say,

00:05:31.780 okay, we've got to get orders of protection.

00:05:33.980 A judge saying, I have no authority.

00:05:35.260 You didn't prosecute me and charge him for that.

00:05:36.760 And the DA then saying, you have to, and making me out to be someone I'm not, you know, and then constantly, you know,

00:05:46.000 wailing on false allegations, unfounded charges, you know, things like, oh, you committed child abuse.

00:05:52.260 You know, that's the irony here.

00:05:54.180 I was accused of committing child abuse in 2014 after I had my injury, after I had surgery.

00:06:02.960 And it was so absurd, Roger, that someone like my ex-wife would go to a member of the government and say,

00:06:10.280 oh, my ex-husband attempted to strangle the kids when he picked them up in the gym.

00:06:15.680 Roger, any medical doctor can tell you that, you know, I have cubital tunnel syndrome.

00:06:20.760 I had just had ulnar release.

00:06:22.240 That's nerve release in your arm.

00:06:24.380 You can't squeeze your fingers.

00:06:25.580 You can't hold a key.

00:06:26.540 How do you strangle anybody?

00:06:27.960 Obviously, the video evidence cleared me.

00:06:29.760 Picked up my kids at the gym.

00:06:30.860 They were roughhousing, they're two twins, they're four years old.

00:06:33.640 What's that do with me?

00:06:34.800 You know, and unfounded, like four and a half, five weeks later, you had a family court judge,

00:06:39.260 Michelle Schauer, says, oh, I believe that you committed the abuse.

00:06:42.760 Oh, can we bring in, you know, Child Protective Services or ACS test fight?

00:06:46.320 No, I think you did it.

00:06:47.560 I don't care.

00:06:48.360 It doesn't matter.

00:06:49.840 You know, evidence doesn't matter in my courtroom.

00:06:51.780 You're guilty.

00:06:52.840 Why am I guilty?

00:06:53.500 Because I sued you in federal court.

00:06:54.680 She denied me accommodations.

00:06:56.460 Yeah, that's what this is all about, Roger.

00:06:58.520 You know, and you asked.

00:07:01.020 So it's very simplistic.

00:07:03.200 Attorney General James, Attorney General Tisha James, defended Judge Schauer and her court 0.60

00:07:08.700 attorney, Brent D'Ambrosio, as well as Judge Oliver Gordon, as well as judges Horowitz and

00:07:16.940 others, who all denied real-time transcription, denied my note taker, denied aid to help me take

00:07:21.720 notes.

00:07:22.120 I can't take my own notes.

00:07:23.000 I have cubicle tele-syndrome.

00:07:23.820 I can't hold a pen.

00:07:25.160 Okay?

00:07:25.840 Denied in the courtroom.

00:07:26.380 They said, you didn't prove you were disabled.

00:07:28.520 No, my doctors did.

00:07:29.860 And the specialists, they did.

00:07:31.520 So how can Letitia James investigate the cop, Lane Slashier, who's charged in misconduct,

00:07:37.720 while she is representing the judges in my federal lawsuit, where the judges were ordered

00:07:41.540 to give the accommodation?

00:07:42.460 They refused.

00:07:43.440 You can't be impartial.

00:07:45.200 You know, you're not going to state the full investigation.

00:07:46.900 So it's no surprise, Roger, that in the law enforcement misconduct report on Lane Slashier,

00:07:51.520 the only cop in Westchester to be labeled pattern misconduct, that my case is intentionally

00:07:56.300 omitted.

00:07:57.200 Because then Letitia James would lose monetary damages, and worse, in my federal case against 1.00

00:08:02.080 the judges and the court staff that denied accommodations.

00:08:05.140 There's no fairness.

00:08:06.000 There's just cover-up and civil rights violations and no rights for those with disabilities.

00:08:10.120 Yeah, they're all in it together.

00:08:12.780 That is the problem in the nutshell.

00:08:14.840 They're all part of the same corrupted one-party system, and they're all covering each other's

00:08:20.960 misdeeds.

00:08:22.060 I want to focus for a minute on the arresting officer in your case, because this seems like

00:08:27.320 a real piece of work.

00:08:29.760 You're talking about an individual who had over 40 verified civilian complaints against

00:08:35.800 them.

00:08:36.400 This is Lane Slashier, I believe.

00:08:39.120 Why is this person still serving the public?

00:08:42.860 Why are they still in any position?

00:08:44.940 This is someone who should have been suspended long before they ended up railroading you.

00:08:53.380 Well, they didn't suspend to terminate them until Letitia James report came out, because

00:08:58.740 they wanted to try and win their federal lawsuit.

00:09:00.660 They didn't want to supply this in court order of discovery.

00:09:03.580 The cops were shocked that someone who was convicted for not committing a crime, for an

00:09:08.240 order of protection, where I wasn't given the third page, neither was the jury, which

00:09:11.360 says party not served.

00:09:12.620 The jury's just given order of protection saying, oh, I never got a copy of this.

00:09:16.320 So to answer your question, the New Rochelle mayor, okay, Noam Branson, purposely withheld

00:09:23.680 this along with their attorneys, Lee Lumba, okay, and several of the other cohorts in New Rochelle

00:09:29.140 to deceive and mislead a judge during discovery that their police were like Cinderella and the

00:09:37.980 prince in some fairy tale when they pattern disability discriminating cops.

00:09:43.220 He was terminated in 2014.

00:09:47.960 About August 2014 was his last paycheck.

00:09:51.040 About three, four months, Roger, after the law enforcement report was given to him, not

00:09:54.680 given to the public until later on that year in December 14th.

00:09:58.600 So December 24th, December 2024, pardon me, December 2024, terminated in August 2024.

00:10:04.920 I myself have been the target of a weaponized judiciary.

00:10:10.840 I know that your legal expenses in a seven-year legal battle, these things are usually resolved

00:10:15.680 in six months, have to be enormous.

00:10:18.900 And I know that your supporters have set up a GoFundMe page.

00:10:22.900 How can people help you out in this epic struggle?

00:10:26.300 I really appreciate it.

00:10:27.320 Legal fees, transcript costs, you know, investigators and ADA expenses are huge.

00:10:32.900 They can go to New RochellePeliceAbuse.com.

00:10:36.220 Again, that's New RochellePeliceAbuse.com.

00:10:38.540 Go down to how they can help.

00:10:40.420 And if you're going to a GoFundMe, make a donation, it's very appreciative.

00:10:43.760 And, you know, that doesn't just help our fight.

00:10:46.840 It helps everyone else that late and slashing year who spent 17 years, you know, on the force

00:10:51.220 help reverse their convictions.

00:10:54.240 You know, because that's the amazing thing here, Roger.

00:10:55.580 So there's no provision in this law enforcement misconduct law.

00:10:58.440 It's 33 dirty cops labeled.

00:11:00.840 33, by the same shame.

00:11:01.860 Yet there's no requirement that any of the convictions that the cops participate in be

00:11:05.880 reversed.

00:11:06.500 How could that be?

00:11:07.920 How could that be?

00:11:08.880 Our DA, DA Cachese, and previous DA Miriam Rocha, and DA Scarpino, there's no obligation

00:11:15.240 that they have to accept the Attorney General for it.

00:11:16.860 They don't have to review.

00:11:18.200 They don't have to look at anything.

00:11:18.980 They've refused to comment in my case over years, since 2023, that even their videos

00:11:23.880 existed that they had to give on the Caliph's discovery law.

00:11:26.820 They don't want to because, again, you'd be taking down the Westchester DA.

00:11:30.340 Hey, we're talking about a 17-year cop and a supervisor.

00:11:34.660 Let's not forget about Officer Cocaine.

00:11:37.360 Officer Sean Cain caught on police's best video planting drugs on Ivan Harper.

00:11:43.400 Okay, in June 24, he's suspended.

00:11:47.420 He was a supervisor who signed my report.

00:11:49.580 He signed that the arrest was authenticated.

00:11:51.620 He signed that there were no police audio video.

00:11:53.780 He signed that it's unknown if a supervisor was present.

00:11:56.780 Yet on the police cameras, my supervisor, Ann Elliott, who's a Republican, the cop says

00:12:02.140 nine times, calls her supervisor in the police precinct.

00:12:04.240 But on his arrest report, he says unknown.

00:12:05.740 Well, he put down that the supervisor was present, Roger.

00:12:08.620 He couldn't do the arrest because the only person who can cause arrest to be made during

00:12:13.840 supervised visitation, which is probation in New York State, okay, probation for going

00:12:18.580 to see your own kid, right, is the supervisor.

00:12:21.320 So, of course, they said, oh, unknown, she's a supervisor. 0.99

00:12:23.840 And why'd you call a supervisor, you know, nine times in two and a half hours?

00:12:27.420 These are the corrupt things.

00:12:28.580 The cops don't give us the audio and video.

00:12:30.180 The cops don't give disabled people the discerning reports.

00:12:34.140 They just want convictions.

00:12:36.180 The DAs just want convictions.

00:12:37.880 And they elevate, you know, the ADAs like Joyce Miller here, who is smiling with a smirk

00:12:42.500 during my sentencing.

00:12:43.740 Four and a half hour sentencing.

00:12:45.500 You get 45 days, four and a half hours?

00:12:48.180 For what?

00:12:49.220 They describe all lies.

00:12:50.920 You know, no truth, no backup.

00:12:53.020 They go on and on and on.

00:12:54.260 Like you're saying, it's persecution.

00:12:55.280 This isn't prosecution.

00:12:56.000 It's personal.

00:12:56.760 It's personal.

00:12:57.340 Why?

00:12:57.800 Oh, who's the DA?

00:12:59.240 Judge Cachese.

00:13:00.500 26-year judge in Westchester.

00:13:03.080 Did she have police officers last year and Kane testify in a courtroom?

00:13:07.500 Absolutely.

00:13:08.320 Who's going to review all those convictions, Your Honor, that you're involved in?

00:13:10.920 Why aren't you accused?

00:13:12.000 Fault papers to remove them.

00:13:13.160 No, they don't remove them.

00:13:14.600 You know, this is corruption at the highest.

00:13:16.940 They never do.

00:13:17.700 We're going to take a quick break and we're going to come back with Mark Fishman because

00:13:21.240 I want him to tell you one more time how you can help him in this epic struggle.

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00:13:26.720 I'm Roger Stone and we'll be right back.

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00:13:58.100 Welcome back.

00:13:59.280 Tonight, it's Roger Stone in the zone and on the phone as we take your calls at 800-848-9222.

00:14:08.820 That's 800-848-9222.

00:14:11.280 You can also email us your questions at AskStone at StoneZone.com.

00:14:18.280 We're talking now to Mark Fisherman.

00:14:21.640 Mark Fisherman is a Bronx father of four.

00:14:25.060 He's just been sentenced recently to 45 days in jail after an outrageous cover-up by the

00:14:32.380 Westchester County District Attorney, Westchester County New York judges, and New York Attorney

00:14:38.120 General Letitia James.

00:14:40.360 Mr. Fishman suffers from traumatic brain injury, tinnitus-related hearing impairment, cognitive

00:14:47.420 occipital neuralgia, and post-concussive memory loss.

00:14:50.800 He is not a well man, but he was denied the Americans with disability accommodations in his case.

00:14:58.740 And the cover-up here is really breathtaking.

00:15:02.100 I've had an opportunity to talk to Mark Fisherman, and I want to give him one more opportunity

00:15:06.360 because he's been locked in a seven-year legal battle because he's been wronged.

00:15:13.680 And I know how expensive that is.

00:15:15.720 So, Mark, tell folks one more time how they can support you in this epic fight.

00:15:20.800 They can go to our website, NewRochellePoliceAbuse.com.

00:15:24.600 Click on Help Out.

00:15:25.840 There's a GoFundMe page and make a donation.

00:15:27.820 It's really appreciated.

00:15:29.220 Also, you know, leave an email, comment, you know, fill out some of our change.org surveys.

00:15:34.660 I also encourage everyone who's been persecuted, who's outraged, to contact the new Commission

00:15:40.880 on Prosecutorial Conduct and complain if they've been abused or wrongfully convicted by a DA

00:15:46.560 or if their family member was.

00:15:48.020 That's cpc.ny.gov.

00:15:50.560 Again, cpc.ny.gov.

00:15:52.460 And if you've had police misconduct, you should contact the Attorney General's Office and the Law Enforcement Misconduct Unit,

00:15:59.060 you know, established after the crime against Floyd to stop pattern discrimination, pattern abuse,

00:16:03.400 like we're suffering with Lane Flestier and Officer Sean Cocaine Cain in New Rochelle.

00:16:08.480 It's systematic.

00:16:09.920 You know, a lot of people aren't aware that these new avenues are available.

00:16:13.780 And, you know, we need the disability parts in family court. 0.70

00:16:18.160 You know, too many veterans and too many disabled people have no one to talk to in family court. 0.97

00:16:23.100 These judges are not trained to accommodate.

00:16:24.740 They're not trained to provide an auxiliary aid.

00:16:27.220 They're just trained to rule against one party who they don't like.

00:16:30.520 This isn't fairness.

00:16:31.660 This isn't, you know, a neutral arbitrator.

00:16:34.560 This is personal vendettas.

00:16:36.540 You know, and I'd be remiss, Roger, if I wouldn't say that.

00:16:39.960 They're killing us.

00:16:40.760 And I have a friend by the name of Lizzie Harden Weinstein who died because Joyce Miller prosecuted her, okay,

00:16:49.340 for being a mom, not being able to see her kids, okay, because she had PTSD.

00:16:53.200 I have another friend, Julia Goldmarks.

00:16:54.920 They killed her.

00:16:56.260 You know, she couldn't see her kid five years, couldn't deal with it.

00:16:59.780 Then we have Catherine Kasanoff, who went to Switzerland to commit suicide, assisted suicide,

00:17:04.900 because she couldn't take it, not seeing her two kids.

00:17:06.420 All right, Mark, we have to leave it there.

00:17:07.920 I want to thank you for joining the Skinstone Zone.

00:17:09.740 God bless you, my friend.

00:17:11.320 God bless you in your quest for justice.

00:17:13.620 Thank you for having us, Roger.

00:17:14.660 I really appreciate it.

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00:17:21.880 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:17:24.820 Welcome back.

00:17:25.920 You are re-entering the Stone Zone.

00:17:28.680 Tonight, it's Roger Stone in the zone and on the phone as we take your calls at 800-848-9222.

00:17:37.980 That's 800-848-9222.

00:17:41.380 Also, you can email us your questions at AskStone at StoneZone.com.

00:17:47.380 That's AskStone at StoneZone.com.

00:17:51.100 We have an email question from Michael in Dallas, Texas, who asks me,

00:17:57.560 what did you think of the elevator incident at the United Nations where President Trump was frozen on the elevator for minutes?

00:18:05.860 I think that this was, I thought this was an extraordinarily dangerous thing.

00:18:13.060 I think it was a dry run, frankly.

00:18:15.840 But it was only part of the entire overall U.N. experience.

00:18:19.740 Let me read what the President said about it.

00:18:22.180 He posted this on Social, Too Social.

00:18:24.580 He said,

00:18:54.580 The President then goes on to say,

00:19:24.580 The good news is, the speech has gotten fantastic reviews.

00:19:32.740 Maybe they appreciated the fact that very few people could have done what I did.

00:19:37.300 And then thirdly, after making the speech,

00:19:39.460 the President says,

00:19:40.080 I was told the sound was completely off in the auditorium where the speech was made and that world leaders, unless they used their interpreter's earpieces,

00:19:49.880 couldn't actually hear anything the President said.

00:19:52.260 The first person the President saw at the conclusion of the speech was the First Lady, who was sitting right next to him. 0.69

00:19:58.240 He asked her, how did I do?

00:20:00.040 And she said, I don't know.

00:20:01.660 I couldn't hear a word you said.

00:20:03.600 This was not a coincidence.

00:20:05.320 This was a triple sabotage at the United Nations.

00:20:08.880 They really should be ashamed of themselves.

00:20:10.900 But more importantly, I think those in charge of the security and safety of our President need to do a much, much better job.

00:20:18.700 I think this could have been a potential disaster with the President suspended there on the escalator ever since Butler, Pennsylvania, ever since West Palm Beach.

00:20:30.980 I have feared for the life of our President, particularly since he's making these enormous changes in American policy, bringing America back,

00:20:39.840 insisting on fairer trade deals with our trade partners, mounting the greatest deportation of dangerous illegal immigrants in U.S. history,

00:20:50.360 working day and night for a cut in the interest rates so more people can buy homes, buy cars, pay off their credit card debt, pay off their student loans.

00:21:00.100 This is a President who's standing up for the American people, but he's also on the cusp of justice against those in the deep state who tried to destroy his presidency, tried to send him to jail.

00:21:13.700 So I think it is a very dangerous time in America.

00:21:16.980 The brutal political assassination of my good friend Charlie Kirk proves that.

00:21:21.560 I'm calling on the Secret Service to do a much, much better job.

00:21:26.500 Let's go to the phones.

00:21:29.140 Please, Jason, in Brooklyn, you have a question.

00:21:35.160 Hello?

00:21:36.400 Yes.

00:21:36.880 Hi, Mr. Stone.

00:21:39.000 I hope you're doing well.

00:21:40.540 Thank you for having me on.

00:21:43.080 I was just wondering, because you always throw in Tulsi Gabbard, and I know she's great, and you said that she's going to be our first woman president. 0.65

00:21:53.160 But wasn't she just a Democrat?

00:21:54.720 I think it's a very good question, Jason.

00:21:58.440 I thank you for it.

00:21:59.940 Jason's in Brooklyn, by the way.

00:22:02.180 Look, I think it's a mistake to look at American politics today as being divided between Republicans and Democrats.

00:22:08.440 I think that's old thinking.

00:22:11.160 Tulsi Gabbard didn't leave the Democrat Party so much as the Democrat Party left her. 0.86

00:22:16.040 She's anti-war, for example.

00:22:19.440 She was against the police state, the surveillance of Americans without warrants, in all honesty.

00:22:26.820 She was against the mass-based censorship of free speech.

00:22:30.660 She woke up one day, and she realized that the Democrat Party, the old Democrat Party of John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman, no longer represented her viewpoint.

00:22:42.020 They are no longer pro-capitalism.

00:22:44.340 They're no longer pro-free enterprise.

00:22:46.920 They no longer believe in a strong national defense.

00:22:49.640 They cheer on the abuses of the FBI against the American people, where parents were locked up for simply showing up in a school board meeting and expressing concern about the curriculum being forced on their children.

00:23:04.620 So I think that Tulsi Gabbard is a person of enormous integrity.

00:23:09.280 She is a great believer in the U.S. Constitution.

00:23:12.040 Let's remember that we only know definitively that the entire Russian collusion narrative that we now are certain of, we know this only because she had the courage to follow the president's direction,

00:23:27.900 to declassify all of the documents that prove that there was a criminal cabal, that this was born in a meeting in the Oval Office with Barack Obama presiding.

00:23:40.000 Joe Biden was there.

00:23:42.100 National Security Advisor Susan Rice was there.

00:23:45.540 FBI Director James Comey, a man who we read in the news today may be facing prosecution for her lies about this very event.

00:23:55.140 CIA Director John Brennan was there.

00:23:58.260 National Director of Intelligence General James Clapper was there.

00:24:02.980 Only because of the courage and the precision of Tulsi Gabbard do we now know that there was, in fact, a cabal and the Russian collusion narrative is a total hoax.

00:24:15.000 And now Tulsi Gabbard has turned her focus at the president's direction on the integrity of our elections and whether we can trust these electronic voting machines and exactly what happened in 2020 and therefore what's likely to happen in 2026.

00:24:31.160 So, I trust her.

00:24:33.240 I think she's also a very, very dynamic communicator.

00:24:36.860 I actually spoke to her on the phone today.

00:24:38.940 And I stand by my prediction.

00:24:40.600 She will be our first woman president. 0.53

00:24:43.880 Maybe not in 2028, but she's young.

00:24:46.980 She's only 43 and she has a very promising career.

00:24:51.520 I have not been as impressed with a political figure, with a political communicator, since I worked for Ronald Reagan.

00:24:58.660 And that is how impressed I am with her.

00:25:01.640 All right, Stephen, out in New Jersey, you've got a question.

00:25:05.920 Hey, Roger.

00:25:07.960 Roger, my belief is that an American communist movement has succeeded in taking over the Democratic Party over the last 15, 20 years.

00:25:16.660 To be no surprise, that was the communism's goal is to take over the world.

00:25:22.000 We know that.

00:25:23.120 But you can go back 90 years to the FDR administration.

00:25:25.760 A guy by the name of Alger Hiss.

00:25:27.340 Here's my question.

00:25:28.100 So, if you agree with me, I guess that's the first question.

00:25:31.540 Why is it that so few Republicans, other than, say, Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, and Ronald Reagan, have called this out and exposed this?

00:25:39.980 And that they're in the Democratic Party.

00:25:42.420 Why do you think that?

00:25:44.580 First of all, I agree with your underlying premise of your question.

00:25:48.120 The Democrat Party has been taken over by a radical Marxist clique.

00:25:53.500 But the truth is, globalism, let's be honest, infects both parties.

00:25:58.960 Until Donald Trump came along to challenge them, the globalists, the internationalists, through organizations like the Council on Foreign Relations,

00:26:07.900 the Trilateral Commission, the World Economic Forum, had successfully infiltrated all of our institutions, meaning our government, including the intelligence agencies,

00:26:21.720 including the Pentagon and our military, including the national security apparatus, but also academia, our colleges, our public schools, as well as, of course, the think tanks.

00:26:32.900 And then there's their funding for the defense contractors.

00:26:36.780 So, it takes enormous courage to stand up to these vested interests.

00:26:42.460 And when you do stand up to them, like Donald Trump did, like General Michael Flynn did, like I did, they try to crush you.

00:26:49.260 They try to crush you like a bug.

00:26:51.060 They try to bankrupt you.

00:26:52.520 They try to put you in jail.

00:26:54.600 Look, it was very interesting.

00:26:55.980 I worked for Ronald Reagan in two campaigns, his 1980 campaign, where I handled New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut, and his 1984 re-election, where I handled those states, plus Ohio, Pennsylvania, and a group of New England states.

00:27:11.960 And in 1988, James Baker, who was managing the campaign of George H.W. Bush, the sitting vice president, asked me to join that campaign.

00:27:20.680 And I could have done so very easily.

00:27:23.940 I would have made a lot of money, would have probably avoided a lot of controversy in my life, but I declined, because George H.W. Bush was a globalist who did not reflect my views.

00:27:33.900 So, I supported Jack Kemp for president in 1988, and unfortunately, he was not nominated.

00:27:41.520 So, I think you have to stand on principle.

00:27:45.040 All the men you talked about, Joe McCarthy, who's been proven right.

00:27:49.020 By the way, for those who want to continue to insist that McCarthy smeared all these innocent people, there's a great book called Blacklisted by History by M. Stanton Evans.

00:28:00.300 I highly recommend it to you.

00:28:02.240 It proves to you, without any doubt, that Senator Joe McCarthy, who's been very much reviled as a drunkard, as a dangerous lunatic, who smeared people, that entire narrative is just as phony as the Russian collusion narrative.

00:28:17.240 And therefore, I think, in retrospect, we realize that much of what McCarthy said was exactly right.

00:28:24.660 And we see the results today.

00:28:26.680 Our government has been infiltrated by communists, has been infiltrated by Marxists, which explains some of these wacky government positions they've taken.

00:28:39.020 Thank you very much for your call.

00:28:41.220 Well, let's go to the computer here.

00:28:44.640 Here's an emailed question asking me whether I think that these media reports, that FBI Director James Comey will be prosecuted.

00:28:55.300 This is from Eric in Bedford Hills, New York.

00:28:59.020 Well, Eric, I certainly hope so.

00:29:00.780 It is very clear.

00:29:01.760 Remember, they charged me, specifically, with lying under oath to Congress in my voluntary testimony before the House Intelligence Committee.

00:29:14.660 Now, first of all, who would—remember, I wasn't responding to a subpoena, so I showed up voluntarily.

00:29:20.820 Therefore, that's kind of proof that I had nothing to hide.

00:29:23.560 And any misstatement that I did make was immaterial.

00:29:28.820 In other words, there was no Russian collusion to cover up.

00:29:32.980 There was no WikiLeaks collaboration between the Trump campaign or between me and the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks to cover up.

00:29:41.960 So the entire question was a setup, and it is outrageous when he was asked.

00:29:51.940 James Comey specifically said that he had never directed anyone to leak negative information tying Donald Trump to Russian collusion,

00:30:04.800 which completely was contradicted by the sworn testimony of the FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

00:30:11.080 He was very closely questioned by Senator Ted Cruz about this, and he lied.

00:30:16.000 That's a material lie, and it's illegal, and it's perjury.

00:30:22.160 He also had no memory of being told that the Clinton campaign had cooked up the entire Russian collusion hoax

00:30:32.400 and that the FBI would soon be sexually pushing that line.

00:30:38.500 So there are two material lies.

00:30:40.360 Now, as some people may know, Eric Siebert, the U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia,

00:30:49.900 who had the authority to prosecute these crimes, was slow walking them.

00:30:55.360 My sources tell me that he prepared a 51-page memo that outlined why Comey should not be prosecuted.

00:31:04.140 Fortunately, he was fired by Donald Trump.

00:31:07.540 He was replaced by a very sharp attorney, who I happen to know, Lindsay Halligan, very capable, very sharp, very able. 0.69

00:31:16.360 And she has until September 30th to charge James Comey.

00:31:20.400 Now, there's a bunch of stories in the media today that that indictment is coming.

00:31:25.360 I hope that report is accurate, but we will see.

00:31:30.240 Either we have a two-tier justice system in which liberal Democrats and those associated with the deep state can break the law with impunity and not be held accountable,

00:31:40.220 or we have a one-tier justice system in which everyone is treated fairly and equally.

00:31:45.520 I can tell you, in my own case, I was framed, General Mike Flynn was framed, they tried to frame Donald Trump, it failed.

00:31:53.200 Now we will see.

00:31:54.460 This is the big question.

00:31:56.000 It's the question I'm asked more by Trump supporters than any other.

00:31:59.480 Will anybody be held responsible for the three-year charade of Russian collusion that we were subjected to?

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00:32:27.060 Welcome back to The Stone Zone.

00:32:29.100 Tonight you've got Roger Stone in the zone and on the phone.

00:32:32.740 We're going to go to the phones right now.

00:32:34.140 That number, 800-848-9222.

00:32:37.400 See if we can squeeze in a few more calls.

00:32:39.320 Susan, you're in upstate New York.

00:32:41.760 Welcome to The Stone Zone.

00:32:44.420 Roger.

00:32:45.100 Well, I've been living in New York City for 40 years, just escaped up here.

00:32:50.560 But I want to know, because I believe that Curtis really has to focus on one of the most critical issues that is not being spoken about,

00:33:00.700 is that 70% of the New York City public school children cannot read at or above grade level or math or anything.

00:33:12.880 And that one-third of them are actually so far below grade level that they're illiterate.

00:33:19.640 We spend $40 billion a year in New York City on about 1.5 million children.

00:33:25.580 Now, he, as mayor, would be in charge of the public schools.

00:33:30.440 And he has not spoken about, you know, how well charter schools do for minority children who are disproportionately affected by this.

00:33:41.180 And how this also, when children do not learn, they end up, you know, going into a life of crime often.

00:33:49.760 So he's got to connect this.

00:33:51.820 He needs six weeks left.

00:33:54.180 People are focused on this.

00:33:56.580 Their kids are back in school.

00:33:57.880 And what about the curriculum that the teachers' union controls?

00:34:02.700 And what is he going to do?

00:34:05.120 What is he going to do to correct this?

00:34:08.020 He has not spoken about it, or if he has, barely.

00:34:11.860 Not enough.

00:34:12.680 What do you think?

00:34:13.700 I completely agree with you.

00:34:15.280 Interestingly enough, in their debate in New Jersey, Jack Cittarelli and Mikey Sherrill,

00:34:20.980 you know, Cittarelli, I think, really scored in the debate by raising this very question about the curriculum being forced on the public schools in New Jersey.

00:34:30.820 And, of course, the Democrat Party is completely controlled there by the teachers' union, as it is in New York City.

00:34:37.380 I was on the radio with Curtis the other morning, and somebody asked me how I felt about his red beret.

00:34:44.920 I said, well, I'm not going to be the one to ask him to stop wearing it, but I'll say this.

00:34:48.860 If he wins, I'll start wearing a red beret.

00:34:51.140 How's that?

00:34:52.120 All right, Susan, thank you so much for your question.

00:34:54.920 Alex, in Long Island City, you've been waiting the longest.

00:34:59.500 What do you got for us, Alex?

00:35:01.940 I'd like to hear what you think or know about the supposed Secret Service bust of the server systems surrounding New York City

00:35:14.600 and the 100,000 SIM cards, apparently to be used for some kind of sabotage of our telecom system, anything you can illuminate for us.

00:35:27.600 I appreciate you bringing that up.

00:35:29.580 I spoke about it on the Stone Zone only yesterday.

00:35:32.380 To me, it is chilling because it just shows you how easy it would be for a total blackout of all mass communications.

00:35:41.380 And therefore, I hope the Secret Service.

00:35:44.700 Well, I've had some real questions with post-Butler, and frankly, I'm concerned about what happened in the United Nations,

00:35:53.680 where the President and the First Lady were for a few minutes sitting ducks, had their, God forbid, been an assassin in the hall.

00:36:01.640 Obviously, when you go to the United Nations, that's not friendly territory for Donald Trump.

00:36:06.680 And then he had to give an extemporaneous speech because his teleprompter didn't work.

00:36:12.300 But I don't really worry about that because Donald Trump is never at a loss of something to say.

00:36:17.300 I say that after being his friend of 50 years.

00:36:20.760 I don't really know more than has been reported.

00:36:23.320 But like you, I'm curious as to who was behind this.

00:36:26.900 Was it the Communist Chinese?

00:36:28.940 Was it Antifa, which has now been declared a violent terrorist organization?

00:36:35.240 People really do need to know.

00:36:37.000 I'm going to do a little research on your question and follow up, but I appreciate your calling.

00:36:41.460 All right.

00:36:41.740 We are out of time.

00:36:43.040 I want to thank everybody who called in or emailed us today.

00:36:46.260 You had Roger Stone in the zone and on the phone.

00:36:49.440 I also want to thank Mark Fishman, the embattled father of four, who is fighting for his rights for joining us.

00:36:55.400 Until tomorrow, God bless you and Godspeed.

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