The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone ｜ 12-04-25


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In this episode of The Stone Zone, host Ken Matthews is joined by Roger Stone to discuss the dangers of the mainstream media and the role of alternative media in our political landscape. Topics covered include: The role of the media Why the media should be focused on calling out people who are abusing or lying to the American people How to protect yourself as an investor What to do if the stock market crashes and what to do in the event of a big sell-off and much more.

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00:01:02.260 My name is Ken Matthews. Always a pleasure to be guest hosting for Roger in the Stone Zone
00:01:08.000 on the Red Apple Audio Networks and 77 WABC New York.
00:01:12.420 Here's the phone number. It's 800-848-9222.
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00:01:19.660 I am seeing this massive shift in awareness of the population.
00:01:27.440 I took a survey. I went out on the street. I spoke to three people.
00:01:30.940 I have the data I need to be called a scientist now.
00:01:34.480 But all kidding aside, there has been an awakening.
00:01:38.580 I think the awakening started probably a decade ago.
00:01:44.560 I think the awakening started when President Donald Trump, my favorite bull in a china shop,
00:01:51.360 came into the political arena and started banging things around and breaking things
00:01:59.160 and saying things and calling people out and dropping hints and names.
00:02:04.740 And I think it just gathered momentum.
00:02:07.040 I think a lot of people, especially in the news media, said, you know, if Donald Trump is calling him so-and-so
00:02:17.080 or talking about this or talking about that, maybe we can poke around in there.
00:02:22.120 I think that's one thing that happened, and that was the alternative media.
00:02:27.500 I think the alternative media, alt-media, truth seekers, citizen journalists, podcasters, YouTubers,
00:02:34.560 a lot of us came from the MAGA movement or we started in the Tea Party movement.
00:02:40.140 I was one of those people.
00:02:41.600 I started on air and doing radio for many, many years.
00:02:46.900 And then I was in radio in major places, including filling in for people actually in New York.
00:02:56.760 And during President Donald Trump's ascension into political super status.
00:03:05.420 And one thing I love about him triggering the media is it reminds us that the news media,
00:03:18.740 the legacy news media, we're talking mass media, corporate media, mockingbird media.
00:03:24.020 I know many of you in Mr. Stone's audience are familiar with these terms.
00:03:29.900 You know, these are the people.
00:03:32.160 These are the platforms that gave us the narratives and the talking points and the brainwashing
00:03:37.760 and the predictive programming and the conditioning, all of it, all of it.
00:03:43.140 That's where it comes from.
00:03:44.940 And Roger would know because one of the greatest mass media hoaxes,
00:03:50.820 one of the greatest examples of mockingbird media was the JFK assassination.
00:03:57.560 Now we are seeing the exact copy of that with Charlie Kirk.
00:04:07.160 We are seeing fake narratives.
00:04:09.540 We're seeing people that are trying to investigate getting attacked.
00:04:13.160 We're seeing entire organizations, law enforcement communities, schools, a lot of politicians,
00:04:20.660 a lot of politicos, a lot of donors and fundraisers and others attack anyone that challenges the narrative.
00:04:34.960 And that's, you know, media's job should be to attack people who are doing wrong
00:04:45.080 or who are abusing or lying to the American people.
00:04:51.220 The job of news media. 0.83
00:04:52.760 Do you remember all that rubbish that we heard, especially during Corn Pop's reign? 0.98
00:05:00.020 President Corn Pop, the drooler, Joe Biden. 0.99
00:05:03.300 Remember all the rubbish about, well, we're the fourth estate. 0.97
00:05:06.380 I mean, without us, remember? 0.95
00:05:08.100 Because Trump called them out.
00:05:10.580 And rightly so, there were people that needed calling out.
00:05:15.180 Because our entire country, at one time or another, I was guilty of it as well.
00:05:23.180 And there's really nothing to feel bad about.
00:05:25.120 If you were at a point in your life, in your political development, where you actually believed the news
00:05:34.940 and the newspaper and the radio broadcaster, I mean, if you actually just unconditionally said,
00:05:44.240 well, I heard it on CBS News.
00:05:47.960 I guess it's true.
00:05:50.040 Don't feel bad.
00:05:51.220 There's nothing to feel guilty about because there was a time when the men and women in mainstream media earned our respect, allegiance, and our trust.
00:06:04.360 They have squandered it all.
00:06:06.100 And it was happening gradually, but it really accelerated, starting in 2015, when everybody poked fun at President Trump in 2015,
00:06:20.720 except me, I endorsed him, in July of 2015, one of the first in Pennsylvania to do so.
00:06:28.040 But anyway, the mainstream mocked them, and they tried to build up some of the other 16 candidates.
00:06:34.660 Remember all that?
00:06:36.000 Okay.
00:06:36.460 That's when it started to erode, because once President Trump became a real threat politically,
00:06:45.940 the fall of 2015, when internal polls started to leak out of the smartest woman in the world's campaign.
00:06:56.620 You may remember her.
00:06:57.440 She's the one that has, you know, she has Bill Clinton's you-know-what in a lockbox. 1.00
00:07:04.160 But Hillary, I think her name is. 0.65
00:07:05.820 Is it Hillary?
00:07:06.940 Yeah.
00:07:07.920 So Hillary got wind that President Donald Trump in the fall of 2015 was actually polling quite well with black men, black women,
00:07:22.560 black women, and white women. 1.00
00:07:26.320 Yikes. 0.99
00:07:27.840 Uh-oh.
00:07:29.140 I mean, that's like, is that not the bread and butter of the Democrat Party?
00:07:33.680 And that could have been a fascinating, exciting time for the news media to earn credibility.
00:07:42.140 But instead, there was panic.
00:07:44.720 And starting in 2016 and right through Russiagate and this gate and that impeachment and this fake thing and that fake thing and the false flag of Jan 6 and what I believe is a stolen election that came down the road.
00:08:03.100 All of that was an opportunity for the mainstream news media, the corporate legacy media, the people that we grew up with, the people that say,
00:08:13.500 tonight, the full story on the news. 0.99
00:08:16.720 And then you tune in, you go, well, that's bull crap. 0.99
00:08:19.980 That's when they started to lose their credibility. 0.99
00:08:23.040 And now mainstream media is a punchline.
00:08:26.740 An MSNBC panel is a joke.
00:08:31.500 It's something that you would make fun of on an SNL sketch or some type of comedy routine or satire online.
00:08:40.400 Because we now realize that most of the people in that corporate machine owned by just a handful of companies are just acting.
00:08:50.100 They're playing a role.
00:08:50.800 They're playing a part.
00:08:52.880 And that's their job.
00:08:56.460 Their job is not to inform you.
00:08:58.700 The job is to convince you, persuade you, control you, and if necessary, shame you, guilt you, or target you in a way where you're the bad guy. 0.51
00:09:15.680 If you challenge a vaccine, if you challenge an election, if you challenge a Charlie Kirk assassination, which the story coming out of Turning Point USA is almost ridiculous. 0.66
00:09:31.060 It's almost laughable at this point.
00:09:32.440 And the more the news media tries to push back, the better it is for alt media, talk radio, truth seekers, podcasters, and YouTubers.
00:09:47.700 Because they still haven't figured out.
00:09:52.860 Good morning, America, and the rest of them haven't figured it out.
00:09:58.560 You've misread the room for almost a decade, and it's caught up with you.
00:10:04.360 It's caught up with you from the Middle East, to the border, to illegal immigration, to Somalians that rip us off for billions of dollars. 1.00
00:10:17.940 I mean, that whole illegal foreign national thing, that's been going on for decades.
00:10:25.680 I mean, they were going after hotels in New York for decades.
00:10:31.800 Quick, funny story.
00:10:32.920 I remember the one time I had my credit card, I guess it was, I guess they stole it, or they took a, there was someone at the hotel I was staying at.
00:10:43.480 I'm not going to mention that hotel, obviously.
00:10:46.260 It's a very nice place.
00:10:49.460 And someone there was part of a ring, and the ring was out of the country, but they had a few people in New York, and they would copy all the cards.
00:10:59.780 And that's how they would get a lot of their money.
00:11:04.220 And it was very easy to do at the time.
00:11:06.100 Now, security is a little better now, etc.
00:11:07.960 But this whole illegal foreign nationals coming in and taking advantage of our country and being criminals, it's nothing new. 1.00
00:11:15.880 And the media is still kicking and screaming, even when they see the results of good policing, even when they see the results of ICE doing its job.
00:11:31.240 Is there occasional overreach?
00:11:34.520 Of course there is.
00:11:35.860 You'll find that anywhere.
00:11:36.880 But I would flip it back around and say, again, the question I've always asked, how many illegal foreign nationals are we allowed? 0.65
00:11:49.460 How many do you want in your yard, in your house, in your car, in your bank, illegal foreign nationals, many of whom are criminals? 1.00
00:12:01.140 So, again, we've had all these inflection points where the national news media, the legacy news media, the people that we used to believe, and now we just laugh at them when they cover an election or something.
00:12:18.520 We laugh at them.
00:12:20.200 You know, I saw Don Lemonon talking with Ben Shapiro online at some whatever.
00:12:27.060 It was, I thought it was a sketch.
00:12:29.280 I thought it was satire.
00:12:31.260 The credibility, they're losing credibility.
00:12:35.320 And so this is the perfect time to tell the truth.
00:12:39.600 So I invite people, fellow people in podcasting and especially talk radio, and talk radio has always led in the truth.
00:12:48.060 I mean, since Rush Limbaugh pretty much brought it back to life in the late 80s, and now it's happening in New York on WABC.
00:13:00.380 Talk radio is iconic now because you're getting opinion, you're getting truth, you're getting, there's not a script.
00:13:10.440 It's not the same person on across the world agreeing with another person in some other part of the world just for the point to agree.
00:13:22.960 So what we have now is an opportunity to ask questions that have never been asked.
00:13:31.680 The media has never had the courage to ask it.
00:13:34.940 And there is an awakening among people in this country, and they're seeing it.
00:13:42.880 And I guess my question is, are you seeing it?
00:13:46.640 Are you feeling it?
00:13:47.780 Are you in that position where you have pretty much stopped listening to the majority of people that you trusted a decade ago because they've been so wrong so often?
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00:14:05.660 This is The Stone Zone, and my name is Ken Matthews.
00:14:09.100 I'm looking forward to your calls.
00:14:10.680 We'll be right back.
00:14:11.400 This is Roger Stone.
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00:15:56.100 My name is Ken Matthews, and you can follow me or troll me on Twitter,
00:16:01.760 at Ken Matthews.
00:16:02.740 I'm also on Truth Social.
00:16:04.980 If you really want to troll me, I would prefer Facebook.
00:16:07.660 That's where a lot of the trolls live.
00:16:10.420 But you can also get, like, cool selfies of, like, people at the beach,
00:16:13.960 and, you know, chicks with their girlfriends and stuff.
00:16:17.280 Hey, how's it going?
00:16:19.420 I just turned 40.
00:16:20.420 I'm at the beach.
00:16:21.860 You know, so, I mean, there's something for everyone on social media.
00:16:25.140 Is there not?
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00:16:32.880 Always fun to be in for Roger.
00:16:34.740 This is a great audience.
00:16:36.660 Once again, the number is 800-848-9222.
00:16:40.560 And speaking of social media, I'm not going to mention this guy's name.
00:16:43.580 He's gotten enough attention.
00:16:44.480 I don't get a lot of clicks because I'm not really hot in a two-piece.
00:16:51.440 Plus, I don't really go out on the limb to create controversial clicks.
00:16:57.160 I'm talking about in the news and information click sector.
00:17:00.600 There's a lot of good people in social media, talented people that get, I mean,
00:17:04.480 singers and dancers and, you know, fixer-upper guys and fishermen.
00:17:09.340 There's just a lot of, truly, and I'm being serious,
00:17:11.720 because there's a lot of good content online.
00:17:14.360 But some people just go online just to shock you, and I don't know why.
00:17:19.460 But anyway, so a social media influencer, I don't know if you saw this story,
00:17:24.440 handed out machetes and alcohol to homeless people in Austin, Texas, and New Orleans.
00:17:31.800 And then he posted the video on Thanksgiving with the caption,
00:17:34.540 Keeping the Homeless in the Streets Safe.
00:17:37.860 And he has over 14 million views.
00:17:43.200 There you go.
00:17:45.020 I post, like, a great photograph or a very pithy comment.
00:17:51.360 I get about three views.
00:17:53.520 But, you see, you know what I mean.
00:17:54.860 It's just that, again, maybe if I handed out machetes.
00:17:57.520 I don't know.
00:17:58.980 Or, you know, maybe if I had nudity.
00:18:01.980 I'm not going to do nudity either.
00:18:04.440 And not just at my age.
00:18:05.800 I'm not going to, you know.
00:18:07.080 There's a lot of people that put stuff like that on social media,
00:18:09.900 and then they put a thumbnail, and there's something in there,
00:18:12.840 and you open it.
00:18:13.800 Boom, they got you.
00:18:15.700 14 million views.
00:18:19.080 This is what the guy did.
00:18:20.700 And I saw the video.
00:18:22.680 He handed out machetes and alcohol to homeless people in Austin and New Orleans.
00:18:28.940 So, the first thing I would say is he was, they were his punchline, which I despise, you know.
00:18:38.300 I don't mind if you're out doing shtick with college kids and things like that. 0.85
00:18:43.660 But I think the homeless have enough to deal with without some asshat giving them a lethal weapon and more booze 1.00
00:18:51.660 when he could have just went out and bought them hot chocolate, hot coffee, a great meal.
00:19:01.160 You know what I mean?
00:19:02.160 And then he gave deadly weapons to a bunch of people.
00:19:06.480 He armed a bunch of people that later in the day will be drunk. 1.00
00:19:11.140 And God forbid someone dies because of this fool. 1.00
00:19:14.820 But he got the views, didn't he? 1.00
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00:20:16.140 It's nice to see you tonight.
00:20:17.420 It is Friday Eve.
00:20:20.000 I'm very excited.
00:20:21.040 The weekend is coming up.
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00:20:24.800 My name is Ken Matthews.
00:20:26.260 Please follow me on Twitter.
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00:20:31.500 The algae rhythms.
00:20:33.220 On Twitter and Truth Social.
00:20:35.280 Again, you can also troll me too.
00:20:37.200 That also gets some action on the algorithms.
00:20:40.020 You can troll me on Facebook as well.
00:20:42.280 There was just an announcement.
00:20:43.300 I don't know if you saw this, but Christine Ohm just announced that they're going to ban now over 30 countries.
00:20:54.000 Yes, there's going to be over 30 countries.
00:20:56.600 Whether it includes France, I don't know.
00:20:58.760 But, you know, there are moments where Frenchmen rub me the wrong way. 1.00
00:21:03.140 I don't know what your thought is.
00:21:04.640 I was going to do a poll like what country would you like banned, but I thought that would be a bit divisive.
00:21:09.360 So, you can just think it to yourself or talk about it at work.
00:21:14.020 If you could ban any 30 countries, what would they be? 0.88
00:21:17.220 I'm sure there's people that don't even know or probably say, 30 countries?
00:21:21.860 How can there even be that many?
00:21:23.560 Well, there's 193 members of the UN, and then there's two.
00:21:29.420 So, there's a total of 195 sovereign countries, totally.
00:21:37.240 And, of course, the Vatican counts as one as well.
00:21:40.340 I wouldn't argue with the Pope about that one.
00:21:43.320 So, 195 countries.
00:21:44.840 We're going to ban 30.
00:21:46.560 Gosh, my math is terrible.
00:21:48.000 You know, during the commercial break, I tried to figure out this percentage exactly without a calculator.
00:21:53.020 And this is the problem.
00:21:54.460 You see, even the baby boomers are getting dumbed down by having everything at your fingertips. 0.99
00:22:01.040 But it's a chunk.
00:22:02.100 Let me put it that way.
00:22:03.260 That would be the terminology we'd use in math class.
00:22:06.240 There's a chunk of it.
00:22:08.200 So, that would leave a remaining 165.
00:22:12.280 You know, it might be fun just to ban every country on Earth for like a month just to see what happens.
00:22:17.320 Again, I'm just throwing out ideas.
00:22:19.860 You know, I just want to bring people together.
00:22:22.060 Anyway, but seriously, 30 countries.
00:22:26.080 I'll be interested to see when the list comes out.
00:22:29.020 I'm sure it's countries that are heavy on cartel involvement, terrorist involvement, countries that are a direct threat, etc.
00:22:38.920 So, let me shift gears to back where we were at the top of the show when I was talking about are you more awake now?
00:22:47.820 You and people you know, and do you believe that Americans are more awake?
00:22:53.240 I have this theory that if we don't become more awake, which I do believe we are now, it'll be next to impossible to save the republic.
00:23:02.660 We have to break out of this programming and this predictive whatever we're in.
00:23:10.640 We need to break out of it because now is the perfect opportunity because there's so many things shaking up our government.
00:23:21.180 And some are good, some are bad, but we have to break out of believing what we're being told all the time.
00:23:29.780 And one of the greatest examples of that is, and I only bring this example up because Senator Ron Johnson just admitted he was unaware of Tower 7 until many years later.
00:23:46.580 And he went on to say that most Americans didn't even know that there was a third tower that collapsed and most people didn't know that a lot of the 9-11 report.
00:24:00.460 Well, he didn't say this.
00:24:01.400 This is what I'm saying because I've I've researched this for many years and see there are many of us that have.
00:24:07.280 And I kind of I don't know.
00:24:11.200 I'm I was a little frustrated that it took Tucker Carlson to come out and do something on 9-11 and all the BS we've been fed about it for people to go.
00:24:21.220 What?
00:24:21.780 What?
00:24:22.440 Because people have known about this for years.
00:24:25.600 Firefighters, investigators, architects, pilots, millions of Americans and, of course, the families.
00:24:33.260 And next year is going to be obviously the 25th anniversary of it.
00:24:38.540 So I do want to play this soundbite of Senator Johnson.
00:24:42.740 And it's interesting because I used to talk about this on my radio shows from time to time because I'm fascinated by history.
00:24:51.700 I'm fascinated by changed history, manipulated history.
00:24:56.140 I love whodunits.
00:24:57.680 And I do believe very little happens coincidentally.
00:25:00.800 I know we're supposed to believe that we're always supposed to believe.
00:25:04.260 I forget what that theory is called when they say it's usually the simplest thing.
00:25:09.120 I mean, don't try to make a conspiracy of it.
00:25:12.180 But unfortunately, so much of what happens in history is so big and it has such an impact on millions of people.
00:25:19.840 I think it's a little more than a coincidence when certain things happen.
00:25:25.340 So when Senator Ron Johnson said when I'm about to play you, I was like, whoa, I got to share this with people.
00:25:31.820 Because when when I say it or maybe when you say it at the picnic or something, they go, oh, here we go. 0.97
00:25:37.840 This guy's crazy. 0.86
00:25:39.560 Now we have senators doing it. 1.00
00:25:41.340 But we've always had people in our government that have been concerned about the truth, but the liars and the cover uppers just keep them from sharing it.
00:25:50.660 So and Ron Johnson was very, very open and active exposing the covid scam as well.
00:25:58.380 So let's see where this goes, if anybody's either going to if someone's going to mention it tomorrow, which when I say someone's going to mention it, I mean, mainstream news.
00:26:08.160 I mean, if if a video of a senator was talking about this, you would think that if this was circulating, you would think that they would be on all the major news networks.
00:26:19.300 Right. Because it's a pretty big deal.
00:26:21.860 It's not it's not like, hey, Alex Jones said this.
00:26:25.680 No, this is a senator.
00:26:26.840 But I mean, there are so many legitimate questions here that I don't mind asking.
00:26:33.040 And it will start.
00:26:34.160 It starts with building seven.
00:26:35.420 Yeah.
00:26:35.660 I had never heard of it.
00:26:36.940 First of all, describing why is it so.
00:26:40.140 Why is it so.
00:26:42.820 Difficult to talk about these things.
00:26:44.280 I mean, why are these legitimate questions just quashed?
00:26:48.300 No.
00:26:49.180 And it's because there's something there.
00:26:53.780 OK.
00:26:54.760 Wow.
00:26:55.200 Finally, to every single 9-11 investigator.
00:27:01.720 Didn't that sound good?
00:27:03.660 Just to hear someone with that level of profile.
00:27:07.860 Talking the truth.
00:27:09.540 And the families know it.
00:27:11.500 The families know it. 0.99
00:27:12.480 And the 9-11 report is it is as ridiculous as the Warren report. 0.92
00:27:19.880 And if you've read both, which I have, it's the same technique. 0.90
00:27:25.340 And this is the same technique we saw with Jan 6, with the pipe bomber. 0.84
00:27:30.420 It's the same technique.
00:27:34.300 We're going to put out a narrative within a week, within a day, within a month.
00:27:39.460 We're going to stick to it.
00:27:41.240 If anybody questions it, they will be isolated, shamed, humiliated, embarrassed. 0.96
00:27:48.480 And unfortunately, depending on what country you're in, shot in the throat.
00:27:55.160 There's something that has not been explained.
00:27:58.380 But we're also getting creamed in the comments section.
00:28:02.020 It's like, how could you guys not know about this?
00:28:04.660 Right.
00:28:04.780 Again, I wasn't a 9-11 drill.
00:28:08.060 But it's because it's been suppressed.
00:28:12.120 Thank you.
00:28:13.000 Thank you, Senator.
00:28:14.880 A sitting U.S. Senator that actually has credibility, ethics, morals, and dignity.
00:28:21.520 Okay?
00:28:23.060 Not that those of us that investigate this for the last 20 years don't have it.
00:28:28.020 But I remember learning about this.
00:28:30.280 I was in the fire academy in 2008.
00:28:34.780 And we had a special facility at the fire academy in Pennsylvania.
00:28:41.380 And two of the people that were retraining, one of them was on scene from 9-11.
00:28:47.740 And the conversations were incredible.
00:28:50.000 Plus, I was in awe because he was FDNY.
00:28:54.360 Which, if you're a firefighter anywhere, like I was in a very small township in Pennsylvania for a couple years, and it was very exciting.
00:29:05.200 And then you meet someone that's a firefighter in New York.
00:29:09.200 You're like, oh, my gosh, this is big time.
00:29:11.820 That's like meeting your favorite celebrity.
00:29:14.460 Because that's like the creme de la creme right there.
00:29:17.760 That's the best firefighting.
00:29:19.160 Just like I think they're the best police department as well.
00:29:22.020 I still believe that.
00:29:23.020 And even then, I said, hey, can I ask you a question without you being offended?
00:29:30.060 And we started talking about it.
00:29:31.880 And then pretty soon, he was retraining on fighting train fires and aircraft fires.
00:29:40.160 And that was, like, beyond my skill level.
00:29:42.880 So I only saw him during breaks and stuff.
00:29:45.360 But he told me a lot of stuff that was covered up.
00:29:48.640 And so have news people.
00:29:50.600 And a lot of people in America know this now.
00:29:53.580 And the families know it.
00:29:55.920 And to see, I mean, this is not some senator that retired, you know, 30 years ago.
00:30:01.400 And he's out in the woods fishing in his cabin.
00:30:04.740 And he's saying, you know what I thought?
00:30:06.260 No, this is a guy.
00:30:07.140 He's in his office.
00:30:08.060 And he's bringing up what's called, and this shocks a lot of people in Washington and in the media.
00:30:13.680 He's bringing up the truth.
00:30:16.800 And that's what I meant about Americans are waking up.
00:30:22.320 We're waking up about how you count elections, about what's in vaccines, about why all the lies about a day that changed history for the entire world.
00:30:35.240 What's with all the lying?
00:30:36.940 And that in and of itself, it is.
00:30:41.780 I mean, like most of America had never heard of World Trade Center 7.
00:30:46.460 We know the Twin Towers, but, I mean, another 40-foot-tall building collapsed.
00:30:53.860 And a BBC reporter's on the air talking about how it collapsed, but it's still standing over her left shoulder.
00:31:00.960 See, what he's sharing with you now, you may be hearing for the first time, but that news is 20 years old.
00:31:09.080 Those of us that started to investigate this, and I became a way to it in 2008.
00:31:16.420 I was actually running a mayoral campaign in Pennsylvania as a campaign manager, and one of the people working on the campaign was fresh back from Middle East fighting combat vet.
00:31:33.340 And we were driving back from Philadelphia one night, and we started talking about this in the car.
00:31:40.480 And I mentioned 9-11, and he said, oh, dude, don't even get me started.
00:31:43.600 I go, what do you mean, don't get you started?
00:31:44.700 And then he had a small business, and in the back of his business, he had an office, and he had all this documentation and research and video, and I was hooked.
00:31:55.920 So in 2008, I would say that was my official awakening to, oh, my God, these people lie like there's no tomorrow.
00:32:05.820 It's just lie after lie after lie.
00:32:07.800 But in the mainstream media, legacy media, they won't touch it now.
00:32:15.640 And it's so funny because some of the legacy media that we're familiar with, they were all over it the first few days because I have all the video.
00:32:23.520 So does every other 9-11 researcher.
00:32:26.660 I've had pilots on my show and architects and firefighters are my favorite because they just get it.
00:32:33.480 They don't have any political agenda.
00:32:35.100 You know, they'll say, yeah, there were bombs there.
00:32:40.020 There was this there.
00:32:40.920 This didn't happen.
00:32:41.780 That wasn't the right way.
00:32:42.860 You know, they'll just tell you.
00:32:44.700 And then slowly but surely, the narrative gets carved into place, whether it's Charlie Kirk, the recent one, or Jan 6.
00:32:53.560 The narrative gets carved into place, and then everybody repeats it.
00:32:57.360 And I think that's what America's done with.
00:32:59.760 And you look at the video of it, and you have kind of one view.
00:33:07.040 It sure looks like a controlled demolition.
00:33:10.220 You've got somebody expert in controlled demolition saying, you know, interviewed years later going, well, it's controlled demolition, right?
00:33:17.020 No, that building collapsed on September 11th.
00:33:23.040 So, again, there are so many unanswered questions.
00:33:26.500 And people heard explosions, didn't they?
00:33:28.540 Oh, yeah.
00:33:28.960 I mean, that was Graham McQueen.
00:33:31.020 Before he died, he was doggedly looking for every bit of evidence, and he found something, 150-some documented recordings of first responders, reporters, that morning of 9-11 saying they heard explosions.
00:33:48.280 There are hundreds of pieces of testimony and video that never made it into the report.
00:33:58.080 Numerous firefighters and one police officer I know personally had incredible testimony and contacted the 9-11 commission, and they never were called back.
00:34:10.380 They called him up and said, you're not going to believe what I saw in the lobby of Building 1, and nobody cared, because the narrative gets put out.
00:34:19.520 And that's exactly what's happening with Charlie Kirk right now, this lame-brain narrative of some goober, one shot, one kill, no proof, ballistics are wrong, and now entire organizations are going after anybody pursuing the truth.
00:34:39.300 So, that's what I love about talk radio, because we can have this discussion.
00:34:44.460 And I'm still alive, knock on wood.
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00:35:03.300 And it's Ken Matthews in for Roger.
00:35:06.820 You can follow me on Twitter and Truth Social, at Ken Matthews, Matthews with two T's.
00:35:11.900 Feel free to troll me.
00:35:13.860 People enjoy that.
00:35:15.140 I like it, too, from time to time, if you'd like to.
00:35:18.660 I'm just noticing how, you know, no matter how you expose the left, they just double down.
00:35:25.020 They have that ability to double down.
00:35:26.600 I just wish, you know, those of us that are pursuing the truth, many of us on the right, I'm presuming you're leaning right, if you tune into Mr. Stone's show and you pursue the truth.
00:35:39.580 I just wish we could double down on the truth the way the left doubles down on the propaganda.
00:35:43.780 Massachusetts Democrats are proposing another Transgender Commission to push gender ideology throughout the state.
00:35:54.040 A bill introduced by Democrat lawmakers in Massachusetts creates a commission of, okay, here's the commission, everybody.
00:36:01.520 A trans, the commission's made up of transgender persons and activists to ensure the LGBT agenda is carried out in all sectors of public life.
00:36:19.480 Let that sink in for a second.
00:36:22.240 That, you know, that ability to keep saying, you know, if we just got people to accept gay people, if we just, gosh,
00:36:30.720 if gay people just had an opportunity, they keep saying it with a straight face. 0.98
00:36:37.300 You know, it's like, do you remember part of Hillary Clinton's campaign was, you know, finally women have a chance to vote.
00:36:44.080 You got to get out and vote, you know, vote for Hillary Clinton because she's not a man kind of thing. 0.58
00:36:48.960 Right.
00:36:49.780 And I used to make jokes about it all the time and say, you know, I hope Hillary gets elected.
00:36:56.620 So, you know, if you're a woman, you'll be able to drive a car, you can own a business, you'll be able to actually vote only during the day. 1.00
00:37:05.600 You won't be able to vote after dark, but you can vote during the day.
00:37:08.320 I mean, it's just, they're very comfortable with this.
00:37:11.220 And here, here is what it's called.
00:37:13.600 I'm reading it.
00:37:14.720 An act establishing a commission on the status of transgender people.
00:37:21.280 It states the goal is the improvement of the status of transgender people in society.
00:37:27.720 And my question would be, what else can we do?
00:37:34.200 Most, most mainstream outlets, most government agencies and corporate entities that don't have the courage to say, excuse me, sir, you're a sir.
00:37:47.920 Although I do like that dress.
00:37:49.740 You see that they don't, they're playing along with it.
00:37:53.400 I mean, you've got basically the LGBTQ movement, the transgender movement, actually, because I like to make sure I, it's important.
00:38:03.860 People know they're separate.
00:38:05.300 I know they can bind them.
00:38:06.460 And I feel terrible because everybody hijacks someone else's movement.
00:38:11.440 You know, it's like the, the, I think the, the gay rights movement kind of hijacked the civil rights movement, the civil rights movement, you know, how it all started and where it ended up and, and how it should have progressed and has and should continue progressing. 1.00
00:38:27.460 Right.
00:38:28.240 And then the gay rights movement, which I don't know anybody that was against that because I couldn't care less what your sexual preferences, as long as you're not in a classroom. 0.99
00:38:40.140 That's all I, that's all I ask.
00:38:42.200 I think whatever, whatever you're into as an adult, just keep it away from people under 18. 1.00
00:38:49.060 That's all we ask.
00:38:50.340 It's, I don't think that's a big ask really.
00:38:53.020 And don't penalize me, Bruce Jenner.
00:38:56.640 If I still have refused to call you whatever chick name you have, because I know you as Bruce Jenner.
00:39:04.280 So I don't know how much more accommodation we can do here.
00:39:07.940 I mean, we've played this game.
00:39:09.600 We've put men that look like women on top of women's list, you know, that on, on different magazines.
00:39:17.900 We put men that are pretending to be women on the top, you know, CEOs, top female CEOs. 0.79
00:39:27.580 And we've done such a disservice.
00:39:30.500 Again, I don't know how much more we can do.
00:39:33.280 What are you going to do in Massachusetts?
00:39:34.720 Are we just going to ban the word man?
00:39:38.440 Look what we did to sports.
00:39:41.860 The fastest gal in Connecticut is a man. 1.00
00:39:45.340 I'm Ken Matthews in for Roger Stone.
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