The Stone Zone ｜ 12-12-25
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Summary
Roger Stone has a beef with Steve Bannon, and it has nothing to do with Julian Assange or the Democratic National Committee, but rather, with Jeffrey Epstein. The former White House Strategist has been accused of colluding with the Epstein family to obtain incriminating photos of President Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton, former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, and comedian Woody Allen.
Transcript
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Well, Washington has been rocked by some 95,000 photographs released by the House Committee investigating Jeffrey Epstein.
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These photographs were evidently supplied by the Epstein family estate.
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Among those depicted in the photographs with Epstein are President Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton, former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, former U.S. Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, comedian Woody Allen, and to the surprise of some, but not me, Steve Bannon.
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Now, I've said right here in the Stone Zone, I have my own beef with Bannon.
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You see, Bannon testified before the House Intelligence Committee investigating the Russian collusion hoax about the same time that I did, and when Bannon was asked, point blank, whether he'd ever discussed WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, or the allegedly stolen emails that were allegedly hacked from the DNC with me.
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You can imagine my surprise then when I was framed by special counsel Robert Mueller, and the surprise witness at my trial was none other than sloppy Steve Bannon.
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Bannon swept to the witness stand, dressed all in black, kind of like a bloated Johnny Cash, would never look me directly in the eye, but when asked the exact same question, whether he'd ever spoken to me regarding Julian Assange, WikiLeaks, or these allegedly stolen emails, he said, yes.
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Yes, Stone had mentioned it in every phone conversation we had in 2016.
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He went on to say that he considered me the campaign's access point with WikiLeaks, which came as a terrific surprise to me.
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By the way, I had already passed three polygraph tests conducted by the same lie detector company utilized by the FBI and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement on that very question.
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So the fact that Steve Bannon was a backstabber does not come as a shock to me, but what was shocking to me was the extensive correspondence back and forth between Bannon and Jeffrey Epstein that took place after Epstein was convicted of sex crimes in Florida, but prior to his being charged as a child sex trafficker by the Trump Justice Department in 2019.
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It's very clear, it's very clear from the extent of the emails released only weeks ago, that Epstein was working as a public relations advisor, advising Epstein on his efforts for public rehabilitation.
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In fact, Steve Bannon recorded almost 10 hours of video in an interview with Epstein, video that has never been released.
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Now, it should come as no surprise that in the context of those emails, Epstein offered Bannon the use of his exotic island and his Palm Beach home at any time, to which Bannon replied, and I quote, I want to get this exactly right, quote, thank you, brother.
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Really? Who refers to a convicted sex trafficker as a brother?
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Should come as no surprise to you that Bannon is now working for a Chinese AI company to advance their interests.
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I've called Steve Bannon out, even challenged him to a bare knuckle fight under the bare knuckle fighting commission, and I'm waiting for his answer.
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Somehow I doubt that a man who eschews hot water and soap would be willing to step into the ring with me, where he would no doubt take a beating.
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Also in the news, President Donald Trump issued a pardon yesterday for Tina Peters.
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That may be a name that is not completely and totally understood by everyone listening to the Stone Zone.
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But for those who don't know, Tina Peters was the Mesa County clerk during the 2020 election.
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And Peter's crime is copying and retaining absolute proof that the vote count in her county was altered after an update by the Colorado Secretary of State.
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This is why the Democrats in the state of Colorado charged her with a local crime and have kept her incarcerated more recently in solitary confinement.
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Why, by all reports, her health is rapidly failing.
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President Donald Trump announced yesterday he granted a full federal pardon to Tina Peters, the former Mesa County clerk, whose grossly immoral and undeserved prosecution has made her a national symbol for election integrity nationwide.
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Trump has repeatedly referred to Peters as a political prisoner, arguing she was targeted for questioning election security while Democrats ignore violent crime and real threats to public safety.
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Peters was convicted over allegations, again, tied to unauthorized access to election equipment in 2021, a case reflecting selective enforcement and complete and total political retaliation.
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This was meant to provide a chilling effect on anyone else who comes forward to demonstrate that there is widespread fraud in our elections.
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For years, Democrats ignored violent and vicious crimes of all shapes, sizes, colors, and types.
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Violent criminals who should have been locked up were allowed to attack again and again.
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Democrats were also far too happy to let in the worst from the worst countries so they could rip off American taxpayers.
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Democrats only think there is one crime, not voting for them.
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Instead of protecting Americans and their tax dollars, Democrats chose instead to prosecute anyone they can find that wanted safe and secure elections.
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Democrats have been relentless in the targeting of Tina Peters, a gold star mom and a patriot who simply wanted to make sure their elections were fair and honest.
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Tina is sitting in a Colorado prison for the crime of demanding honest elections.
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Today, I'm granting Tina a full pardon for her attempts to expose voter fraud in the rigged 2020 presidential election.
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Now, the pardon follows direct appeals from Peter's legal team, who urged the president to intervene similarly to how he pardoned the January 6th patriots,
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the individuals who were ensnared in the so-called fake elector scandal,
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and many others as part of the no-MAGA-left-behind ethos of the Trump administration.
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A federal pardon cannot release one from incarceration when they're convicted on state crimes.
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And therefore, I have suggested, as has the Assistant Attorney General Ed Martin,
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that the Trump administration charge the governor of Colorado,
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they have more than enough evidence now of election fraud,
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and declare Tina Peters to be a federal witness.
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Therefore, under the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution,
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Tina Peters could be extracted from that Colorado prison.
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That, in my opinion, is the fastest and easiest way to leading to her release.
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Meanwhile, Indiana Republicans spit in the face of President Donald Trump this week
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after the state Senate voted down a proposed new congressional map
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that could have strengthened the Republican Party's position heading into the 2026 midterm elections.
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The chamber rejected a map, 31-19, halting an effort that would have flipped two additional House seats into Republican hands
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and bolstered the rather thin Republican majority in Washington.
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The failed vote comes as President Trump and his allies have urged Republican-controlled states
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to redraw congressional lines ahead of the midterms,
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arguing that Democrats have long exploited redistricting and gerrymandered their states to lock in power.
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Of this news, Trump-aligned political strategist Alec Brusevitz, a friend of mine, said,
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The spineless rhinos in Indiana, many hailing from districts where President Trump won by over 20 percent just last November,
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have stabbed their own voters in the back and sold out America.
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We'll be launching primary challenges against every last traitor who voted no effectively immediately.
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As I said on X yesterday, the Republican Party of Indiana needs an enema, and I know exactly where to stick the nozzle.
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Turning point action is also expected to be active in these races,
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making sure that Republicans who failed to redistrict are primaried out of office next year.
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While Republican-led states like Texas are moving forward with aggressive map changes,
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Indiana lawmakers show reluctance, with several Republicans publicly questioning
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both the timing and the political wisdom of the redraw.
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These Republicans are the ones who we question are really conservatives.
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They really should be driven from politics and replaced with America first lawmakers.
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States like Florida and Texas, where the population have grown, have moved to redistrict,
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where Democrats have already gerrymandered in states like California, New York, and others, Illinois,
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The loser mentality continues to stain Republican politics, in my opinion, must be removed.
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Our country has too much at stake in the next off-year elections to tolerate this kind of weakness.
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A chilling lawsuit filed this week has implicated ChatGPT, that's the artificial intelligence app,
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for its alleged role in yet another needless death, this time a brutal murder.
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The estate of Suzanne Eberson Adams, an 81 Connecticut mother, allegedly murdered by her son,
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is accusing OpenAI and its founder, Sam Altman, of wrongful death,
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claiming that his ChatGPT app fueled the delusions that led to this senseless killing.
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According to the lawsuit, Adams was beaten and strangled by her 56-year-old son,
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Stein Eric Solberg, inside their Greenwich, Connecticut home, before he then tragically took his own life.
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Court filings alleges that Solberg, a former tech executive who suffered a serious mental breakdown,
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became obsessed with ChatGPT, personifying the chatbot, relying on it to validate increasingly paranoid beliefs about his own mother.
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Rather than grounding him in reality, the lawsuit claims that artificial intelligence reinforced his delusions,
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encouraging a fantasy of hidden conspiracies and spiritual awakenings.
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In documented exchanges, ChatGPT allegedly affirmed Solberg's belief that everyday objects were part of a sinister plot
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When a domestic dispute erupted over a printer he believed was spying on him,
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the suit alleged that the AI went further, reinforcing the idea that his elderly mother posed a deadly threat to him.
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The family said Adams paid with her life because there were no safeguards, no off switches,
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Recently, there have been a string of teen suicides that occurred after the troubled youngsters
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confided in this online app where they received advice on the best way to end their own lives.
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These are real-life science fiction scenarios unfurling themselves on a daily basis.
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At the bare minimum, you need to keep your children off these AI apps and digital platforms.
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And at a maximum, you must monitor their use of them carefully.
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This is Roger Stone. You're listening to the Stone Zone.
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And when we come back, we'll talk about the Trump administration as they prepare the largest tax refund checks
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Americans will soon see meaningful relief at tax time, according to White House Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett,
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who says that new Republican-backed tax cuts will deliver, quote,
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Speaking in Pennsylvania, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessett projected between $100 billion and $150 billion
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That's roughly $1,000 to $2,000 per household, stemming from provisions in the Big Beautiful Bill passed last July.
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Because most workers have not yet adjusted their tax withholdings, Bessett explained,
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the benefits will arrive as refunds in the first quarter of next year.
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After that, workers are expected to see higher take-home pay as less taxes was held from each paycheck,
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White House National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett echoed Secretary Bessett's optimism,
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estimating that tax cuts are between $1,600 and $2,000 for typical American workers,
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especially those benefiting from the bill's elimination of taxes on tips and overtime.
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President Donald Trump highlighted those gains during his recent rally speech in Pennsylvania,
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pointing to job growth, increased domestic energy production, rapidly falling gas prices,
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and easing costs for essentials like rent and dairy.
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The administration has also floated the idea of a $2,000 payment
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to low- and middle-income workers funded by tariff revenues.
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Those are the kind of outside-the-box ideas that are necessary to show the American people
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how President Trump's economic policy is actually helping the working families of America
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Money talks, and it will talk louder than all the fake news media spin
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The truth is, prices are down, grocery prices are specifically down, gas prices are down, rent prices are down,
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In fact, they're not down as low as they were in the final year of Donald Trump's presidency in his first term.
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President, I can assure you, is well aware of that, and the best is yet to come.
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You are now re-entering The Stone Zone, and I'm your genial host, Roger Stone.
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Well, if you've been listening to The Stone Zone for a while, you know I have been predicting for many months
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that President Donald Trump would finally move to reclassify cannabis, that's marijuana, under federal law,
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rescheduling it from being a Class 1 drug to the far less restrictive Schedule 3 category.
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And now it is confirmed, President Trump's preparing a national executive order
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that would reclassify marijuana under federal law.
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I think this is a common-sense move that reflects the current public attitudes on marijuana.
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After all, 38 of the 50 states now offer either legal medicinal marijuana or, in some cases, recreational marijuana.
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I myself became a convert to this cause back in the 90s when my father was dying of cancer.
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I watched him wasting away as he had no appetite.
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I also saw him even sicker based on OxyContin, which they gave him for his horrific pain.
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A friend suggested that marijuana could both increase his appetite and ease his pain,
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and my sisters and I decided to get him some reefer to smoke.
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It was, of course, illegal in New York State at that time, but we did it nonetheless.
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I can honestly say that my father's dying days were far more peaceful and far less painful,
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and that he did, in fact, regain his appetite and begin gaining weight.
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That's when I became a convert to the cause of legalization.
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According to multiple reports now, President Trump's order will direct the federal agencies involved
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to move cannabis from Schedule 1, where it's currently categorized with heroin and LSD,
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to the far less restrictive Schedule 3 category.
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Such a reclassification would ease punitive tax rules that have long-himpered perfectly state-legal cannabis businesses
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and open the door for banks to serve that industry without fear of federal penalties.
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The markets reacted quickly, with cannabis stocks jumping after the news broke.
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Analysts say the move signals regulatory normalization rather than any kind of full legalization,
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keeping federal oversight in place while acknowledging the changing realities across the states.
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President Trump has always said that cannabis was a states' rights issue,
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said it in 2016, said it again in 2020, maintained that position in 2024.
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President Trump previously stated his openness to rescheduling marijuana.
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Now, we here at the Stone Zone have urged President Trump to make this move,
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and I'm very happy that he's finally pulling the trigger.
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Marijuana prohibition was one of the biggest failures in U.S. history.
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Marijuana was demonized because cannabis and hemp were threats to the entrenched business interests,
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When people use medicinal marijuana instead of opioids to ease their pain,
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Big Pharma can't make as many billions of dollars.
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But the market has spoken, and President Trump is responding with the wise move of rescheduling cannabis
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a position that will be popular with many hundreds of thousands in the American public.
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This news about marijuana reminds me of one of my favorite stories.
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In the late 1950s, the U.S. State Department made jazz legend Louis Armstrong a goodwill ambassador,
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and the U.S. State Department underwrote a concert tour of Europe and Asia for the jazz great.
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Armstrong and his entire entourage were waved through customs without a search of Sachmo's bag,
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But when he landed at Idyllwild Airport, now JFK, in New York in 1958,
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Customs agents had been tipped off that contraband was being imported into the country,
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and Armstrong joined a long line of travelers lined up for inspections.
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Unfortunately, the jazz trumpeter was carrying three pounds of high-quality marijuana in his suitcase.
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Once Armstrong realized he was about to be busted and would bring shame on the country he was traveling on behalf of,
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It was just then that the doors swung open wide,
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and Vice President Richard Nixon swept in with his security detail,
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followed by a gaggle of reporters and photographers.
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Nixon, seeing an opportunity for a wire photo with Armstrong,
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I just came back from my Goodwill Ambassadors tour of Asia,
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and they told me I had to stand in line for customs.
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Without hesitation, Nixon grabbed both of Sachmo's suitcases.
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Ambassadors don't have to wait in line to go through customs,
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and the Vice President of the United States will gladly carry your bags to the curb for you,
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whereupon the Vice President of the United States, Richard Milhouse Nixon,
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mulled three pounds of pot through U.S. customs without ever knowing it.
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When Nixon was told what happened later by his assistant, Charles McCorder,
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who heard the tale from one of the jazz musicians who was traveling with Sachmo,
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President Nixon recognized Louie Armstrong's incomparable contribution to Americana
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One of the great architects of an American art form,
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his great talents and magnificent spirit added richness and pleasure to all of our lives,
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Meanwhile, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutt is telling NATO countries
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in order to stop the aggressive goals of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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but with its economic economy dedicated to war,
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Russia could be ready to use military force against NATO within five years.
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How deterrence is achieved through retaliation,
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because there could be in the future even more pressure on this.
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that our grandparents and our great-grandparents had to endure.
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on the false narrative regarding the Russia-Ukraine war.
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The idea that Vladimir Putin has territorial ambitions for all of Europe
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The truth is that when the Russians agreed to the reunification of East and West Germany,
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the United States government under President George H.W. Bush
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agreed in a signed treaty, the Budapest Memorandum,
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not to push Ukraine, which borders Russia, into NATO,
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more precisely committing not to put NATO missiles
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funded by U.S. taxpayers on the ground in Ukraine pointed at Russia.
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In fact, the United States reaffirmed this in a second treaty, the Minsk Accords.
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So the push by the Biden administration to force Ukraine into NATO
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is a direct violation of these agreements by the U.S. government
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Why is this different than the Russians mounting missiles 90 miles from our shores
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Which, of course, was vigorously objected to by President John F. Kennedy.
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It's no coincidence now that NATO is pushing out war propaganda
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when President Trump is struggling in a major push for peace
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It's become clear that NATO provoked the situation
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by encroaching closer and closer to Russian territory
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with this expansionist agenda aided by the color revolution coup in Ukraine
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that put in a Western puppet aided by U.S. State Department intervention.
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They will do anything they can to sabotage the peace process
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I'm among those who believes that NATO has outlived its usefulness.
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It had a purpose immediately after World War II
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when the economies of our European allies were decimated,
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but America's economy was still relatively strong.
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It was way back in 1988 when he first started talking about running for president
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that Donald Trump, the businessman, began pointing out that NATO was being paid
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and that virtually all of our European allies were deeply in arrears
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Why, he asked repeatedly, should we pay for the defense of Europe
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It's amazing to me that when he ran for president, finally,
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after looking at the race seriously in 2000, in 2012,
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but when he actually became a candidate in 2016,
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In fact, our NATO allies coughed up $650 million
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would formally remove the United States from NATO.
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as this rogue globalist organization has gone completely mad
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but it is doubtful that he's even read the proposal.
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which is a pittance compared to the hundreds of millions of dollars
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has made its way back into the hands of U.S. lawmakers
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Like all Americans, I'm praying for an end to this war.
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What I favor, he said, is an end to the killing,
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that's being imposed by Democrats on the United States.
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and permits doctors to prescribe lethal medication
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to qualifying adults diagnosed with terminal illnesses.
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who have suffered from a devastating terminal illness,
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but it clearly crosses a dangerous moral and ethical line.
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To qualify, patients must be deemed mentally competent,
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a troubling expansion of government-sanctioned death,
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and towards deciding whose lives are worth leaving.
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are pushing a pair of law enforcement proposals
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On the one hand, the Washington State Democrats
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Prasad's memo examined 96 pediatric death reports