The StoneZONE with Roger Stone


The Stone Zone | 12-15-25


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The New York Times praises Marco Rubio for his courage in testifying before the U.S. Senate on Venezuela. I don't think so. I think he's a petulant narcissist, and I think it's great that he's willing to wear a straw hat.


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00:01:38.260 Welcome back to The Roger Stone Show.
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00:02:43.180 So, today's New York Times says that Marco Rubio, who has really been in the forefront of the strident anti-communism, whether it is in Venezuela or whether it's in Cuba or whether it is emerging in Honduras and elsewhere in our hemisphere, that he has been a fierce warrior.
00:03:00.440 They say that he may dream of toppling the brutal Cuban regime.
00:03:05.180 The Times, of course, has criticism.
00:03:07.360 It's what I like about Marco Rubio.
00:03:09.900 But, look, he's not only a secretary of state.
00:03:12.140 He also serves a secondary role as the national security advisor.
00:03:16.840 In addition to that, he is temporarily, believe it or not, the archivist of the United States.
00:03:22.600 He has a fourth title.
00:03:24.060 It's a back-breaking job.
00:03:26.240 I read James A. Baker III, wrote a terrific book about his time as secretary of state.
00:03:32.780 And you spend most of your time on an airplane.
00:03:35.680 And he has a bureaucracy in the State Department that doesn't like, you know, a strong secretary of state who reflects the policies of the president.
00:03:44.380 I would never have thought that Marco Rubio would emerge as the feistiest and one of the most outstanding of those executing President Trump's America First policies, fighting narco-terrorism, fighting Marxism, fighting dictatorships in this hemisphere.
00:04:05.600 But he has really emerged.
00:04:07.880 But I like his kind of spunk.
00:04:11.000 Here's Marco Rubio.
00:04:12.240 He's testifying at the U.S. Senate under oath.
00:04:15.780 A bunch of news cameras, fake news, want to interview him.
00:04:19.200 Listen to this.
00:04:19.840 Marco Rubio, you've got to love it.
00:04:46.860 But he has to not only pay attention to Venezuela.
00:04:51.400 Clearly, the pressure on Maduro is being ratcheted up.
00:04:56.340 Maduro is, I think, engaging in some great PR gymnastics, claiming to have tough policies against drug trafficking when he is, of course, the biggest Marxist narco-trafficker of them all.
00:05:08.060 Pretending, surrounding himself with Catholic nuns and saying, don't worry, be happy wearing a straw hat.
00:05:14.740 But I think he is petrified that he could be taken out by a Soleimani-type strike.
00:05:19.840 I don't think that's likely.
00:05:20.840 I think that is his paranoia.
00:05:22.900 But sources tell me that Rubio has really been in the forefront of this.
00:05:30.060 But I think Rubio has a new problem on his hands in Honduras.
00:05:34.520 Less than a week before the Honduran national president, President Trump, of course, endorsed.
00:05:39.440 Tito asked Fura of the Nationalist Party, which he has an absolute right to do.
00:05:44.300 He then also subsequently pardoned, unilaterally issued an unconditional pardon for former Honduran president elected by the Nationalist Party, Juan Orlando Hernandez, who will join us shortly to tell his own horrific story.
00:06:02.620 I had written about this case and followed it very closely when American journalists gave me a letter from the former president to be passed on to the president of the United States before I decided to do so.
00:06:17.940 I read the case, complete all of the public documents.
00:06:22.380 And I could see that the three principal witnesses against Juan Orlando Hernandez were all convicted drug traffickers, all of whom had been prosecuted under his administration.
00:06:34.680 And because of a law that he signed, an extradition treaty, which no Honduran president has ever been able or been willing to sign, the very drug traffickers who he had extradited to the United States ended up as the witnesses against him.
00:06:50.540 And all of them got out of jail free cards for doing so.
00:06:55.880 All of them conspired with the Libra Party.
00:06:59.900 But the Libra Party has had huge problems because the election has not worked out as they had expected.
00:07:09.020 Libra Party nominated Rixi Mankata, who says Fidel Castro is her idol and she was more of the same.
00:07:19.180 They did something very, very clever, though, and that is they tried to throw a ringer into the race.
00:07:27.600 It was very, very clear that the vice president, Salvador Nasralla, who previously served as the vice president of the Honduras under the outgoing Marxist president, Xiomar Castro of Libra,
00:07:41.580 has deep ties to the party and continues to work hand in glove with the Libra Party to fund party operations.
00:07:51.260 Nasralla's public split with Libra, I think, was to set him up as what we in American politics call a ringer.
00:07:58.440 He had a television presence.
00:08:00.140 He was meant to siphon votes from the candidate of the Nationalist Party, Tito Asfura.
00:08:07.680 But that failed. Now the leftist elements in the government are insisting that this election, this duly constituted election, not be certified.
00:08:19.660 Nasralla himself is the loudest, insisting that he's been cheated when there is no evidence of that.
00:08:24.660 The final count shows him losing.
00:08:27.020 Suddenly, the Libra Party, who in the past have always dominated elections in Honduras, came in a distant third.
00:08:38.400 And, of course, are now trying to invalidate this election, which pro-U.S., anti-immigration, anti-narco-trafficker Tito Asfura won.
00:08:51.100 It's not incidental that the first thing after Juan Hernandez, when Orlando Hernandez signed the extradition treaty, that his successor, Xiomar Castro, rescinded that action.
00:09:04.400 So who is it that is in the pocket of the narco-drug traffickers?
00:09:09.020 This isn't an open and shut case.
00:09:13.200 And the truth of the matter is that Hernandez, today will be my first conversation with him ever, if we've ever actually communicated directly.
00:09:21.660 I very was happy to have his gracious wife, the former first lady, and his two daughters.
00:09:30.040 I had his wife, Ana Garcia de Hernandez, on, as well as daughters Ana Daniela Hernandez and her daughter Isabel Hernandez.
00:09:41.080 But I only spoke to them after their father was pardoned.
00:09:44.280 And, no, I was paid nothing for my advocacy, not a penny, and I received this document, decided to send it on to the president.
00:09:52.840 I've confirmed that.
00:09:53.980 But all it takes is an examination, as Matt Gaetz did in a great interview with President Hernandez.
00:10:01.020 He was subjected to the same vicious lawfare as President Donald Trump in the Jack Smith investigation, in the Robert Mueller investigation, in the vile lawfare against him in the New York court system.
00:10:18.120 The kind of tactics used against General Michael Flynn, the kind of tactics used against me, against Paul Manafort and others, and they're fraudulent.
00:10:31.400 They're now thoroughly and completely busted in the questions whether they will see justice.
00:10:37.380 This is a very key point that Rod Martin was making, because this is a continuing seditious conspiracy.
00:10:43.460 And it's born in an Oval Office meeting in April of, I believe it was 2016.
00:10:51.860 And it is absolutely clear that Barack Obama knows that Hillary Clinton has a plan to falsely claim Russian interference to benefit Donald Trump in the election.
00:11:05.680 And she approves a false claim that Alpha Bank, a Russian bank, maintains a computer terminal inside the Trump Organization headquarters.
00:11:18.040 It turns out to be a fabricated lie that Jake Sullivan, her national security advisor, later Joe Biden's national security, lied about.
00:11:27.740 So, and you have this stunning act that's come to light, where 51 intelligence officers, former or current, all got together knowingly, admitting that as Mike Burrell, the former director of CIA, former deputy director of CIA, called Joe Biden an incoherent vegetable, I believe it was,
00:11:51.660 going to go into the debate, which is, gives you some idea why 51 spies lied.
00:11:59.560 It was outrageous to see Hunter Biden attacking Miranda Devine of the New York Post, by far one of the very best investigative reporters in the country.
00:12:08.520 She busted the Hunter Biden laptop story wide open, along with one of her colleagues over at Breitbart.
00:12:16.520 She's a great lady and a great journalist, so to make fun of her looks or her talents by a piece of, well, I think you know what I think of, Hunter Biden.
00:12:28.460 Hunter Biden's lawyers tried to sue me when I started to comment on his case, insisting that I preserve all my documents pretending to Hunter Biden,
00:12:35.420 which would be none whatsoever other than what I read in the New York Post and Breitbart Online and other places.
00:12:43.160 Famously, you'll remember that X, then known as Twitter, banned the New York Post from reporting that Hunter Biden's laptop contents were real.
00:12:54.260 That shows you how far we've come under Elon Musk, where this information is not banned today.
00:13:00.220 It's still, with its faults, X, formerly known as Twitter, is still the leading free speech app in the country.
00:13:06.780 I say that not because I'm paid to say it, but because it's true.
00:13:10.400 Elon Musk bought this company, and then he very forcefully handed over the evidence that the U.S. government intelligence agencies worked hand-in-gloved with the techies at Twitter
00:13:21.180 to silence us, to cancel us, to limit us in our reach, to censor us in violation of the U.S. Constitution.
00:13:31.520 So it is amazing that we've gotten to this point.
00:13:35.720 Donald Trump is right about the economy.
00:13:38.160 He knows that ultimately the things he's put in place are going to bring us a strong economy.
00:13:43.860 And those who keep whining about the 2026 elections, what he calls panicans, they may be whistling another tune.
00:13:51.700 I'm Roger Stone. This is The Roger Stone Show, and we'll be right back.
00:13:55.520 The Stone Zone. Entertaining and informative.
00:14:03.120 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:14:06.160 Well, the Trump administration has a fox in the henhouse.
00:14:10.420 I think the president and his aides must remain on guard against subversive forces that are looking to undermine the president's agenda from within.
00:14:18.300 Many of them are burrowed deep into federal bureaucracy, some of them in less high-profile jobs, where they hope they can slither their way without public recognition.
00:14:28.760 One of these examples shocking is the SEC.
00:14:32.600 I believe he is the director of enforcement, the number two position at the SEC, Sam Walden.
00:14:39.580 Walden is a multi-time Biden-Harris donor, even donating to Kamala Harris just two days before the election day of 2024.
00:14:46.540 Despite his open political advocacy for Democrats, he still masquerades as a neutral enforcer who stands up for the rule of law.
00:14:55.500 But he was one of the key engineers of Operation Choke Point 2.0, policies that tried to treat cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, and the alternative monetary system that has flourished in the world and under Donald Trump,
00:15:09.680 claiming that certain elements that they were selling were securities, charging people for lacking a license to sell securities.
00:15:20.000 Walden himself was one of the key architects of the Biden-era assault by then-chairman of the SEC, Gary Gensler, against the entire crypto industry.
00:15:33.360 Under Walden's enforcement regime, Gensler initiated the policy to debank crypto coin entrepreneurs and treat them as if they were selling drugs or weapons.
00:15:43.980 President Trump, of course, has reversed these policies and talked about the important role that cryptocurrency and Bitcoin will play in the world's economic future as well as the country's economic future.
00:15:57.800 But this is really extraordinary to learn that someone who is responsible for filing most of the most egregious lawsuits against crypto entrepreneurs,
00:16:11.800 some of the most outrageous heavy-handed efforts to destroy crypto, is in the number two position in the Trump administration's SEC.
00:16:23.800 And how this has happened, we don't know, but it's very easy to go online to look at his contributing pattern.
00:16:33.080 It is extraordinarily clear that this person is a vicious partisan, and their role in Arctic Frost alone is problematic.
00:16:42.900 Arctic Frost is the most extra-constitutional, illegal, politically and legally unbelievable operation by the government,
00:16:56.100 using government authority and power to violate the constitutional rights of people like Donald Trump and myself.
00:17:04.820 The idea that you would compile a list of people, just randomly conservative, Trump supporters, Republican and conservative organizations,
00:17:13.420 that you would surveil all of them without probable cause, that you would go out of your way to try to frame them for crimes is beyond belief.
00:17:22.720 And the underlying premise of Mueller's case, pardon me, of Smith's cases are absurd.
00:17:29.460 Alternative electors are not prohibited by law.
00:17:33.880 They have reached American history, forming an alternative elector slate.
00:17:38.200 While there's ongoing litigation regarding the outcome of any given state election,
00:17:43.440 saved Hawaii for John Kennedy in 1960, and is not in itself a crime.
00:17:48.260 But spying on U.S. senators is unacceptable.
00:17:51.840 That's very clear.
00:17:53.000 There's growing evidence that Gina Haspel, at the CIA, spied on a House committee that was investigating what the CIA knew about the alleged Russian collusion,
00:18:03.780 which she knew was fabricated but did nothing to stop and tell the man who appointed her.
00:18:09.320 Gina Haspel, by the way, previously, John Brennan's top operative in London.
00:18:14.520 I don't know who sold this to the president in his first term, but it was an error.
00:18:19.360 We'll be right back.
00:18:23.000 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative.
00:18:27.940 On the Red Apple Podcast Network.
00:18:30.940 On November 30th, Honduras held a presidential election.
00:18:36.720 Two days before that, President Donald Trump issued a full and unconditional pardon to former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez.
00:18:46.620 That's because the president examined the case against Hernandez, as I did, and saw that he was lynched using the same kind of tactics that Jack Smith and Robert Mueller tried to use on Donald Trump and set up on fabricated charges of drug trafficking.
00:19:06.280 When, in fact, he was the president of Honduras, who signed an extradition treaty for drug traffickers.
00:19:14.380 And the very drug traffickers that he agreed to extradite the United States ended up as the principal witnesses against him, all of them convicted drug traffickers, all of whom got a get out of jail free card.
00:19:31.180 This was a politically motivated lynching with a political motivation to stop the Nationalist Party and to extend the neo, the narco Marxist regime of Xiomar Castro, who admits that she admired Fidel Castro.
00:19:51.000 And they have now, it appears to me, lost this election.
00:19:55.040 But first, I want to say this is the first time that President Hernandez and I have ever spoken.
00:19:59.540 We've never communicated directly.
00:20:01.460 I became aware of his case and the dynamics of Honduran politics.
00:20:05.200 I wrote about them extensively.
00:20:06.940 I reached the conclusion that he had been framed in a flimsy case against him for political reasons.
00:20:13.860 I advocated publicly and privately for his pardon.
00:20:17.380 And I thank God that he has listened and President Trump has done the right thing.
00:20:22.920 A man unjustly sentenced to a 45-year sentence for crimes he did not commit.
00:20:29.380 President Hernandez, welcome to The Roger Stone Show.
00:20:33.640 Thank you.
00:20:34.440 Thank you very much, Mr. Roger Stone.
00:20:37.280 Thank you for having me.
00:20:38.400 If you allow me to thank publicly to the Lord, God, that helped me to overcome this terrible situation.
00:20:50.660 But also, I want to thank President Trump, who took the courage to correct this great injustice.
00:21:00.080 And it was, as you know, he granted me a full and unconditional pardon.
00:21:05.000 Of course, my family, my friends, so many people in Honduras and other countries praying for almost four years asking for this.
00:21:17.940 But especially now that I am talking to you for the first time, I want to thank you.
00:21:23.360 Because you took the time to investigate.
00:21:28.460 You learned about my case.
00:21:31.580 And you did a very important job that anybody who could speak about something like my case should have done in order to know what really happened.
00:21:47.120 So, I really appreciate the way you handled this, because you did a research, you investigated all your team, and you know the situation in detail.
00:21:58.260 And whoever knows my case in detail, they really know that I was wrongfully convicted.
00:22:05.520 And that I was the one who, at that time, in Honduras, made the decision to confront the narco-trafficers, because nobody wanted to do it.
00:22:19.380 Because they felt that they had been killing so many people who have tried.
00:22:24.740 And also, they remember what happened in Colombia, the narco-terrorism at that time, when they were trying to extradite Pablo Escobar and the other narcos.
00:22:37.040 And at one point, I told somebody in Congress, when I was a speaker of Congress in Honduras,
00:22:43.080 knowing that eight out of ten cases of violence in Honduras are related to drug trafficking, if we don't do something,
00:22:57.260 it's like there is no point of being here in Congress.
00:23:01.000 At that time, in Sarah Stone, Honduras was the country with the highest murder rate in the planet.
00:23:07.320 And I am the one of those people, if I know something, I cannot look the other way,
00:23:14.500 because if I look the other way, it's because I made the decision of not doing anything.
00:23:19.940 So, I confronted this.
00:23:22.280 And almost a century, we didn't have any extradition at all between the United States and Honduras.
00:23:32.140 Because I lead the process to amend our Constitution to create other very important legal instruments and policies to fight these criminals.
00:23:46.560 And at the end, the Biden administration, the deep state, framed me.
00:23:52.360 And they weaponized the justice system to put me in jail in order to let the bad guys free.
00:24:04.180 But also, they did it because they wanted the political allies, the very radical left in Honduras, to become in power.
00:24:11.880 Now that a lot of information is coming out, there are videos, there are recordings, documents linking the radical left party,
00:24:21.360 who already lost the election in Honduras last Sunday.
00:24:26.280 They were really linked.
00:24:28.680 They had that evidence since 2013.
00:24:33.480 And the DOJ didn't use it.
00:24:35.580 And my question is, why?
00:24:39.180 And possibly the answer is, because they were protecting them,
00:24:42.820 because they want the radical left to become in power.
00:24:46.140 And in order to do that, they have to destroy my aimers,
00:24:50.140 attack my party and the institution in Honduras,
00:24:54.360 in order to be the radical left to become in power.
00:24:57.540 But now, you know, the public in Honduras, the citizens,
00:25:04.480 they overwhelmingly rejected that trail ideology of the radical left,
00:25:11.080 and they are losing very bad.
00:25:13.880 But anyway, thank you for having me.
00:25:16.240 It is really amazing.
00:25:18.320 At your trial, a U.S. government representative gave false testimony
00:25:22.420 claiming that cocaine trafficking to the United States had increased drastically
00:25:25.640 under your administration, when in fact, that was entirely false,
00:25:29.340 that you signed numerous cooperative agreements with the United States,
00:25:32.380 including, as you point out, for the first time ever,
00:25:34.580 an extradition treaty to crack down.
00:25:36.900 Our President Trump publicly praised you for doing that.
00:25:40.280 The case against you is largely based on conjecture,
00:25:42.980 but more importantly, the testimony of two murderous cartel leaders
00:25:45.960 who had an axe to grind against you,
00:25:47.940 because your administration prosecuted them,
00:25:50.360 and extradited them.
00:25:52.240 And these both of them were extradited to the United States in 2004
00:25:59.060 under the agreement that you signed.
00:26:01.760 Both of these men are hardened to criminals, murderers.
00:26:06.080 They played the DEA, I think, masterfully,
00:26:08.380 but it takes two to tango.
00:26:10.700 And the Biden Justice Department was in the same mode they were
00:26:15.560 in their case against me.
00:26:17.220 And the differences here are really extraordinary.
00:26:20.800 James Comey and I are charged with the exact same crime,
00:26:24.200 yet he has no 6 a.m. raid.
00:26:27.900 The judge puts no gag on him.
00:26:31.020 He is allowed to argue, as I wasn't,
00:26:34.180 that he was politically targeted,
00:26:36.460 that this was selected prosecution.
00:26:38.000 You, sir, were absolutely framed.
00:26:39.740 The hard left, the narrative, is driving him crazy.
00:26:42.180 Trump pardons a drug trafficker, the Esquire magazine.
00:26:48.180 None of these people have examined the case against you.
00:26:50.740 They need to read the case file,
00:26:53.360 and they will see that you were a target.
00:26:56.520 I want to talk about the most recent election.
00:27:00.480 You made a very good point,
00:27:01.700 which is that Libra has run last,
00:27:06.820 posting, I think, a 19% finish.
00:27:09.680 Embarrassing for the party in power.
00:27:12.380 And former vice president, Salvador Nasral,
00:27:17.320 who I believe was planted in this race
00:27:19.720 to try to siphon votes from Tito Asfura,
00:27:25.620 certainly appears that way to me.
00:27:28.440 He now joins the Marxists in trying to avoid
00:27:31.240 what I think was a legitimate election
00:27:32.880 that was won by Tito Asfura.
00:27:35.400 What say you, sir?
00:27:36.640 Well, the information that I have is that
00:27:41.000 all the documents of each polling session
00:27:47.060 that my party already have,
00:27:49.940 and the other parties,
00:27:52.220 all indicate that Tito Asfura
00:27:54.060 is the one who wins the election.
00:27:57.040 Right now, they are starting the process
00:28:00.440 of verifying a few documents
00:28:05.960 of some polling sessions that they have to review.
00:28:09.540 But all indicates that the winner
00:28:13.160 clearly is Tito Asfura.
00:28:16.220 But what the people in Honduras have realized
00:28:21.240 from, let's say, three, four days ago until now,
00:28:26.080 is that Nasrallah and Mel Zelaya from the Liberal Party,
00:28:30.840 they are talking again and trying to get together
00:28:33.780 in order to overturn the election.
00:28:36.120 But everybody has seen the election.
00:28:39.500 We have a lot of observers
00:28:41.420 from international observers,
00:28:44.580 Honduran observers,
00:28:46.140 and the Honduran people are fed up.
00:28:48.980 And even the army,
00:28:50.700 I believe that they already said
00:28:52.840 the process is doing well.
00:28:55.440 We have to finish it,
00:28:56.820 and we have to respect
00:28:58.100 what is the result.
00:29:01.160 At this point,
00:29:03.920 civil society organizations
00:29:06.040 private sectors,
00:29:07.860 churches,
00:29:08.980 everybody is saying,
00:29:10.520 let's finish this,
00:29:12.680 and we cannot allow
00:29:14.560 any wrongdoing
00:29:16.960 because the process has to finish
00:29:19.100 as it is.
00:29:20.220 So I feel really confident
00:29:22.480 that the result is going to be positive
00:29:25.160 for the National Party
00:29:26.980 at the three levels,
00:29:27.980 presidential level,
00:29:29.620 the mayoral elections too,
00:29:32.060 and Congress.
00:29:33.460 But of course,
00:29:34.960 you're not the left.
00:29:35.800 The radical left.
00:29:36.760 They have a playbook.
00:29:38.040 Yes, they certainly...
00:29:39.280 They even said before every election
00:29:43.800 that if they don't win,
00:29:45.880 it's because it's a foul.
00:29:50.020 It was rigged.
00:29:51.400 You know what it is.
00:29:52.060 This is their playbook.
00:29:53.480 We're talking to former Honduran President
00:29:56.240 Juan Orlando Hernandez,
00:29:58.400 a man who's just told you
00:29:59.400 that he was sustained
00:30:00.160 by his faith in God,
00:30:01.780 and he fervently prayed
00:30:03.240 that he would be delivered
00:30:04.260 from these horrific prisons
00:30:06.960 where he was framed.
00:30:08.420 And anyone who will look
00:30:09.640 at his case will see that.
00:30:11.180 What's really amazing is that
00:30:12.400 when I tried to obtain
00:30:14.420 through Freedom of Information Acts
00:30:15.740 the publicly available documents
00:30:17.480 regarding the plea deal
00:30:18.860 done with the two
00:30:20.280 drug traffickers
00:30:21.360 who testified against him,
00:30:23.700 those documents
00:30:24.500 the government won't hand over.
00:30:26.780 This was a fraudulent conviction
00:30:29.300 of an honest man.
00:30:30.740 I was very honored
00:30:31.660 to have the first lady,
00:30:33.080 former first lady of Honduras,
00:30:34.380 Ana Garcia de Hernandez,
00:30:36.260 and their daughters,
00:30:38.760 Ana Daniela Hernandez
00:30:40.040 and Isabella Hernandez
00:30:42.040 on with me.
00:30:43.440 But we, again,
00:30:44.440 only communicated
00:30:45.160 after this great act
00:30:46.680 of mercy and justice
00:30:48.320 by Donald Trump.
00:30:50.960 So it is,
00:30:52.600 we are in a historic time.
00:30:54.560 Honduras is a prize
00:30:55.820 to the narco traffickers.
00:30:57.840 It would join Venezuela
00:30:59.100 and Cuba as orbits for them.
00:31:01.820 And of course,
00:31:02.880 they have the willing,
00:31:03.960 complicit assistance
00:31:04.980 of the Chinese.
00:31:06.920 So I'm glad to see
00:31:08.500 that Marco Rubio
00:31:09.700 is standing up
00:31:10.840 to this threat.
00:31:12.480 It remains to be seen
00:31:13.680 whether the legitimate election
00:31:15.820 in Honduras
00:31:16.300 will be honored
00:31:16.900 or whether there is
00:31:17.940 a Marxist coup d'etat
00:31:19.660 in our backyard,
00:31:20.980 something that Marco Rubio
00:31:22.620 and President Trump
00:31:23.320 would have to deal with
00:31:24.140 as they are dealing
00:31:25.180 with Venezuela,
00:31:26.540 as they must deal with Cuba.
00:31:28.300 In the meantime,
00:31:28.840 it's my great honor
00:31:30.060 to have with us
00:31:30.860 former Honduran
00:31:32.180 President Juan Orlando Nadez,
00:31:33.960 a man who was unjustly
00:31:35.480 sent to hell
00:31:36.420 but through prayer
00:31:38.120 and reason
00:31:38.820 is able to join us today.
00:31:42.080 And anyone who wants
00:31:43.000 to examine the case
00:31:44.460 for pardoning him,
00:31:45.160 I have written extensively
00:31:46.140 about it.
00:31:47.280 The evidence
00:31:47.920 was manipulated here
00:31:49.740 in a Jack Smith,
00:31:52.340 Jack Mueller,
00:31:54.040 judicial,
00:31:55.260 I should say,
00:31:55.900 prosecutorial,
00:31:56.820 overreach,
00:31:57.380 and politically motivated
00:31:58.460 frame job
00:31:59.900 that is very flimsy indeed.
00:32:02.280 So I have no qualms
00:32:04.240 about being an advocate
00:32:05.380 for this pardon
00:32:06.020 and I'm honored
00:32:07.660 that you would join us today.
00:32:09.120 You're listening to
00:32:09.880 The Roger Stone Show
00:32:10.940 on the Red Apple Audio Networks
00:32:12.960 and we'll be right back
00:32:14.380 with the former president
00:32:15.920 of Honduras
00:32:17.200 on the other side.
00:32:18.340 The Stone Zone
00:32:23.260 entertaining
00:32:24.300 and informative
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00:32:28.960 And we're back
00:32:29.860 with former president
00:32:31.200 of Honduras
00:32:31.780 Juan Orlando Hernandez.
00:32:33.880 During the Biden-Harris administration's
00:32:35.560 campaign
00:32:35.880 to retribution
00:32:36.640 against President Trump
00:32:37.640 and his allies,
00:32:38.920 they zeroed in
00:32:39.980 on Hernandez
00:32:40.600 and incurred favor
00:32:42.060 with the far-left
00:32:43.560 Libra Party.
00:32:44.420 The Libra Party
00:32:45.020 was led by
00:32:46.800 Xiomar Castro,
00:32:47.960 part of the infamous
00:32:48.720 Zelaya family
00:32:50.120 with deep ties
00:32:50.880 to both Cuba
00:32:52.560 and Venezuelan communists,
00:32:54.880 including Maduro.
00:32:56.520 But those ties
00:32:57.560 did not faze
00:32:58.200 the Biden Department
00:32:59.080 and President Hernandez
00:33:00.620 was framed
00:33:02.080 in a vicious assault
00:33:03.580 and filed their indictment
00:33:04.780 to him
00:33:05.000 on January 27th.
00:33:06.060 One day
00:33:06.500 after Hernandez
00:33:07.500 left office
00:33:08.260 and as Vice President
00:33:09.620 Kamala Harris
00:33:10.340 traveled to Honduras
00:33:12.560 to celebrate
00:33:13.120 the inauguration
00:33:13.880 of narco-Marxist
00:33:16.100 Xiomar Castro
00:33:17.300 to put the Biden administration
00:33:19.480 seal of approval
00:33:20.340 on this leftist regime.
00:33:22.420 So I'm going to ask
00:33:23.240 the former president,
00:33:24.900 Mr. President,
00:33:25.900 take off your hat
00:33:26.800 as a statesman,
00:33:28.240 take off your hat
00:33:28.940 as a president,
00:33:29.900 put on your hat
00:33:30.480 as a politician
00:33:31.940 and tell him
00:33:33.300 and answer this.
00:33:34.280 The elections
00:33:34.960 were held on Sunday,
00:33:36.080 November 30th,
00:33:36.880 on Friday.
00:33:38.000 To the surprise
00:33:38.800 of everybody,
00:33:39.600 including yours truly,
00:33:41.100 President Donald Trump
00:33:42.140 took to Truth Social
00:33:43.420 to announce hours
00:33:45.060 after he'd already
00:33:45.840 endorsed Tito Aspera
00:33:47.400 that he was going
00:33:48.500 to grant you
00:33:49.320 a free and unconditional
00:33:51.140 pardon.
00:33:52.280 And I know that moment
00:33:53.560 of relief,
00:33:54.760 but here's my question.
00:33:56.460 Did the fact
00:33:57.020 that dominated the news
00:33:58.480 in Honduras
00:33:59.220 for the closing days
00:34:00.140 of the election,
00:34:01.060 did this benefit
00:34:02.560 the nationalists
00:34:03.840 at the end
00:34:04.840 who won a very narrow
00:34:05.980 but significant victory?
00:34:09.320 It did.
00:34:10.200 Indeed,
00:34:11.760 that's what it is.
00:34:13.880 The thing is this,
00:34:16.060 you know,
00:34:16.580 in Central America
00:34:17.860 there has been
00:34:21.300 a lot of influence
00:34:22.620 from the
00:34:23.240 Venezuelan regime.
00:34:26.980 But
00:34:27.660 people was,
00:34:30.560 people always
00:34:31.380 thought that
00:34:32.340 maybe
00:34:32.840 something
00:34:34.340 were true
00:34:35.340 or
00:34:36.440 were not true,
00:34:37.780 for example,
00:34:38.400 all the ordeal
00:34:39.280 that the Venezuelan
00:34:40.720 people have been
00:34:41.400 living for more
00:34:42.660 than a decade
00:34:43.420 under the
00:34:44.500 regimen of Maduro.
00:34:46.020 But when
00:34:46.580 President Trump
00:34:47.520 said it
00:34:48.740 clearly
00:34:49.660 that
00:34:50.900 these guys
00:34:52.040 were,
00:34:53.900 put it in
00:34:54.640 simple words,
00:34:56.160 the bad guys,
00:34:57.880 a frail
00:34:58.580 ideology,
00:35:00.840 the radical left,
00:35:02.400 so people
00:35:03.240 started to pay
00:35:04.040 attention.
00:35:05.140 But also,
00:35:05.760 when he said
00:35:06.560 that the
00:35:07.380 former vice
00:35:08.660 president
00:35:09.140 could be also
00:35:10.680 related with
00:35:11.560 them,
00:35:12.400 it was
00:35:13.020 another hit,
00:35:14.140 a very important
00:35:14.900 one.
00:35:15.640 And of course,
00:35:16.720 when he talked
00:35:17.500 about Asfura,
00:35:18.500 that he,
00:35:19.480 the president,
00:35:20.620 President Trump
00:35:21.300 said,
00:35:21.720 we are going to
00:35:22.720 work with Asfura
00:35:23.720 very closely,
00:35:25.040 and I am
00:35:26.120 pardoning
00:35:26.860 President
00:35:27.740 Juan Orlando,
00:35:29.180 my party
00:35:30.400 received like
00:35:31.880 an energizing
00:35:35.040 push.
00:35:37.620 Of course,
00:35:39.220 it is
00:35:40.080 a validation
00:35:40.900 that you were
00:35:41.680 framed,
00:35:42.080 it's exoneration.
00:35:43.480 The president
00:35:43.720 looked at your
00:35:44.260 case and he
00:35:44.900 made a judgment
00:35:45.600 that you had
00:35:46.020 been politically
00:35:46.620 lynched,
00:35:47.240 your name
00:35:47.600 hadn't been
00:35:48.240 destroyed,
00:35:48.700 you had been
00:35:49.100 sent to prison
00:35:49.760 for 45 years,
00:35:51.640 separated from
00:35:52.280 your beautiful
00:35:52.760 family.
00:35:53.240 it is true
00:35:55.660 as my colleague
00:35:56.580 Matt Gates
00:35:57.100 pointed out
00:35:57.700 that the
00:35:58.100 evidence against
00:35:59.180 your brother
00:35:59.940 is stronger
00:36:00.420 than the evidence
00:36:00.920 they presented
00:36:01.380 against you,
00:36:01.960 which was
00:36:02.240 frankly very
00:36:03.240 flimsy,
00:36:04.240 but there was
00:36:04.640 no evidence
00:36:05.200 that you
00:36:06.120 participated in
00:36:07.000 any illegal
00:36:07.500 activity with
00:36:08.040 your brother
00:36:08.360 or anyone
00:36:08.800 else,
00:36:09.440 and you
00:36:09.780 had asked
00:36:10.280 the authorities
00:36:13.000 in Honduras
00:36:13.800 to investigate
00:36:14.780 your brother
00:36:15.500 during your
00:36:15.940 time as
00:36:16.340 president to
00:36:16.800 be certain
00:36:17.260 that you
00:36:17.800 had no
00:36:18.200 conflicts,
00:36:18.740 but of
00:36:18.960 course,
00:36:19.480 that won't
00:36:19.900 be written
00:36:20.300 in Esquire
00:36:21.040 magazine or
00:36:21.900 any of the
00:36:22.360 other
00:36:22.720 liberal spots.
00:36:24.860 So I
00:36:26.020 want to
00:36:27.560 send my
00:36:28.280 heartfelt
00:36:29.600 thanks for
00:36:31.100 your faith
00:36:31.700 in God,
00:36:32.320 your faith
00:36:32.800 in President
00:36:33.680 Donald Trump,
00:36:34.400 your commitment
00:36:34.860 to stop the
00:36:36.080 Marxist
00:36:37.020 drug traffickers.
00:36:38.520 I know what it
00:36:38.940 is to have
00:36:39.740 your name
00:36:40.240 dragged through
00:36:40.920 the mud
00:36:41.220 when you've
00:36:41.560 done nothing
00:36:42.480 wrong.
00:36:42.940 I know what it
00:36:43.340 is to face
00:36:43.900 a vicious
00:36:44.920 all-power
00:36:46.460 federal judiciary
00:36:47.660 with unlimited
00:36:48.920 resources
00:36:49.980 and leftist
00:36:51.540 activist judges
00:36:53.320 in their
00:36:53.900 pocket,
00:36:54.720 but you
00:36:55.420 have transcended
00:36:56.460 that and
00:36:57.840 you go on
00:36:58.540 to fight
00:36:59.160 for the
00:36:59.960 freedom of
00:37:00.660 the Honduran
00:37:01.280 people because
00:37:02.660 the fight
00:37:03.140 never ends.
00:37:04.400 I want to
00:37:04.680 thank President
00:37:05.560 Juan Orlando
00:37:06.820 Hernandez.
00:37:07.820 My friend,
00:37:08.500 God bless you
00:37:09.260 and Godspeed.
00:37:11.440 God bless you
00:37:12.500 and thank you
00:37:13.060 very much.
00:37:13.640 There you
00:37:16.000 have it folks.
00:37:16.740 It's a narrative
00:37:17.240 the left
00:37:17.660 doesn't like
00:37:18.280 but this
00:37:19.500 man was
00:37:19.980 lynched.
00:37:20.760 If anyone
00:37:21.140 will examine
00:37:21.840 his conviction
00:37:22.800 and those
00:37:23.880 who testified
00:37:24.440 against him,
00:37:25.720 these are the
00:37:26.620 very people
00:37:27.100 he prosecuted.
00:37:28.480 They got
00:37:29.020 out of jail.
00:37:29.760 This is what
00:37:30.240 we call a
00:37:30.820 fugazi.
00:37:31.820 That's it for
00:37:32.520 us today on
00:37:33.100 The Roger Stone
00:37:33.700 Show.
00:37:33.980 Thanks for
00:37:34.340 tuning in.
00:37:34.960 Until next
00:37:35.520 time,
00:37:36.220 God bless you
00:37:36.920 and Godspeed.
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