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00:00:38.100 Welcome back to the Roger Stone Show.

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00:01:42.280 So today's New York Times says that Marco Rubio, who has really been in the forefront of the strident anti-communism, whether it is in Venezuela or whether it's in Cuba or whether it is emerging in Honduras and elsewhere in our hemisphere, that he has been a fierce warrior.

00:02:00.600 They say that he may dream of toppling the brutal Cuban regime.

00:02:05.080 The Times, of course, has criticism.

00:02:07.240 It's what I like about Marco Rubio.

00:02:09.460 But, look, he's not only Secretary of State, he also serves a secondary role as the National Security Advisor.

00:02:16.720 In addition to that, he is temporarily, believe it or not, the archivist of the United States.

00:02:22.480 He has a fourth title.

00:02:24.560 It's a back-breaking job.

00:02:26.140 I read James A. Baker III, wrote a terrific book about his time as Secretary of State.

00:02:32.680 And you spend most of your time on an airplane.

00:02:34.900 And he has a bureaucracy in the State Department that doesn't like a strong secretary of state who reflects the policies of the president.

00:02:44.280 I would never have thought that Marco Rubio would emerge as the feistiest and one of the most outstanding of those executing President Trump's America First policies, fighting narco-terrorism, fighting Marxism, fighting dictatorships in this hemisphere.

00:03:05.520 But he has really emerged.

00:03:07.760 But I like his kind of spunk.

00:03:10.900 Here's Marco Rubio.

00:03:12.520 He's testifying at the U.S. Senate under oath.

00:03:15.700 A bunch of news cameras, fake news, want to interview him.

00:03:19.100 Listen to this.

00:03:19.740 he used to talk to us actually

00:03:42.340 uh marco rubio you you gotta love it

00:03:46.740 But he has to not only pay attention to Venezuela,

00:03:51.080 but clearly the pressure on Maduro is being ratcheted up.

00:03:56.380 Maduro's, I think, engaging in some great PR gymnastics,

00:04:00.480 claiming to have tough policies against drug trafficking

00:04:03.200 when he is, of course, the biggest Marxist anarcho-trafficker of them all,

00:04:08.820 surrounding himself with Catholic nuns and singing,

00:04:12.760 don't worry, be happy, wearing a straw hat.

00:04:14.620 But I think he is petrified that he could be taken out by a Soleimani type strike.

00:04:19.740 I don't think that's likely.

00:04:20.780 I think that is his paranoia.

00:04:22.920 But sources tell me that.

00:04:25.640 And Rubio has really been in the forefront of this.

00:04:29.960 But I think Rubio has a new problem on his hands in Honduras.

00:04:34.420 Less than a week before the Honduran national president, President Trump, of course, endorsed Tito Asfura of the Nationalist Party, which he has an absolute right to do.

00:04:44.200 He then also subsequently pardoned, unilaterally issued an unconditional pardon for former Honduran president elected by the Nationalist Party, Juan Orlando Hernandez, who will join us shortly to tell his own horrific story.

00:05:02.500 I had written about this case and followed it very closely when American journalists gave me a letter from the former president to be passed on to the president of the United States before I decided to do so.

00:05:17.440 I read the case, complete all of the public documents, and I could see that the three principal witnesses against Juan Orlando Hernandez were all convicted drug traffickers, all of whom had been prosecuted under his administration.

00:05:34.300 And because of a law that he signed, an extradition treaty, which no Honduran president has ever been willing to sign, the very drug traffickers who he had extradited to the United States ended up as the witnesses against him, and all of them got out of jail free cards for doing so.

00:05:55.680 All of them conspired with the Libra Party.

00:05:59.820 But the Libra Party has had huge problems because the election has not worked out as they had expected.

00:06:08.900 Libra Party nominated Rixi Mankata, who says Fidel Castro is her idol, and she was more of the same.

00:06:19.060 They did something very, very clever, though, and that is they tried to throw a ringer into the race.

00:06:27.480 It was very, very clear that the vice president, Salvador Nasralla, who previously served as the vice president of the Honduras under the outgoing Marxist president Xiomar Castro of Libra,

00:06:41.480 has deep ties to the party and continues to work hand in glove with the Libra party to fund party

00:06:50.500 operations. Nasrallah's public split with Libra, I think, was to set him up as what we in American

00:06:56.140 politics call a ringer. He had a television presence. He was meant to siphon votes from

00:07:02.260 the candidate of the Nationalist Party, Tito Asfura, but that failed. Now the leftist elements

00:07:11.380 in the government are insisting that this election, this duly constituted election,

00:07:17.300 not be certified. Nasrallah himself is the loudest, insisting that he's been cheated.

00:07:22.820 When there is no evidence of that, the final count shows him losing. Suddenly, the Libra

00:07:29.160 Party, who in the past have always dominated elections in Honduras, came in a distant third,

00:07:37.780 And, of course, are now trying to invalidate this election, which pro-U.S. anti-immigration, anti-narco-trafficker Chico Nasfora won.

00:07:51.320 It's not incidental that the first thing after Juan Hernandez, when Orlando Hernandez signed the extradition treaty, that his successor, Xiomar Castro, rescinded that action.

00:08:03.960 So who is it that is in the pocket of the narco drug traffickers?

00:08:10.420 This is an open and shut case.

00:08:13.120 And the truth of the matter is that Hernandez, today will be my first conversation with him ever,

00:08:18.500 if we've ever actually communicated directly.

00:08:22.500 I very was happy to have his gracious wife, the former first lady, and his two daughters.

00:08:29.540 I had his wife, Maena Garcia de Hernandez.

00:08:33.960 On as well as daughters, Anna, Daniela Hernandez and her daughter, Isabel Hernandez.

00:08:40.980 But I only spoke to them after their father was pardoned.

00:08:44.220 And no, I was paid nothing for my advocacy, not a penny.

00:08:48.680 And I received this document decided to send it on to the president.

00:08:52.740 I've confirmed that.

00:08:53.860 But all it takes is an examination, as Matt Gaetz did in a great interview with President Hernandez.

00:09:00.920 He was subjected to the same vicious lawfare as President Donald Trump in the Jack Smith investigation, in the Robert Mueller investigation, in the vile lawfare against him in the New York court system.

00:09:19.100 The kind of tactics used against General Michael Flynn, the kind of tactics used against me, against Paul Manafort and others.

00:09:27.880 and they're fraudulent they're now thoroughly and completely busted uh and the questions whether

00:09:35.640 they will see justice this is a very key point that rod martin was making because

00:09:39.860 this is a continuing seditious conspiracy this born in an oval office meeting in april of i

00:09:48.620 I believe it's 2016.

00:09:52.100 And it's absolutely clear Barack Obama knows that Hillary Clinton has a plan to falsely claim Russian interference to benefit Donald Trump in the election.

00:10:06.560 She approves a false claim that Alpha Bank, a Russian bank, maintains a computer terminal inside the Trump Organization headquarters.

00:10:17.540 Turns out to be a fabricated lie that Jake Sullivan, her national security advisor, later Joe Biden's national security, lied about.

00:10:27.640 So and you have this stunning act that's come to light where 51 intelligence officers, former or current, all got together knowingly admitting that as Mike Burrell, the former director of CIA, former deputy director of CIA, called Joe Biden an incoherent vegetable.

00:10:50.460 I believe it was going to go into the debate, which is gives you some idea why 51 spies lied.

00:10:59.460 It was outrageous to see Hunter Biden attacking Miranda Devine of the New York Post, by far one of the very best investigative reporters in the country.

00:11:08.380 She busted the Hunter Biden laptop story wide open with one of her colleagues over at Breitbart. 0.52

00:11:16.400 she's a great lady and a great journalist so to make fun of her her looks or her talents

00:11:22.620 by a piece of well i think you know what i think of hunter biden hunter biden's lawyers tried to

00:11:29.900 sue me when i started to comment on his case insisting that i preserve all my documents

00:11:34.220 pretending hunter biden which would be none whatsoever other than what i read in the new

00:11:38.940 york post and the uh and uh and breitbart online and other places famously remember that

00:11:44.660 x now known as then known as twitter banned the new york post from reporting that hunter biden's

00:11:51.320 laptop contents were real that shows you how far we've come under elon musk where this information

00:11:58.440 is not banned today it's still with its faults x formerly known as twitter is still the leading

00:12:04.480 free speech app in the country i say that not because i'm paid to say it but because it's true

00:12:10.200 Elon Musk bought this company, and then he very forcefully handed over the evidence that the U.S. government intelligence agencies worked hand-in-gloved with the techies at Twitter to silence us, to cancel us, to limit us in our reach, to censor us in violation of the U.S. Constitution.

00:12:32.160 So it is amazing that we've gotten to this point.

00:12:35.600 Donald Trump is right about the economy.

00:12:37.900 He knows that ultimately the things he's put in place are going to bring us a strong economy.

00:12:43.660 And those who keep whining about the 2026 elections, what he calls panicans, they may be whistling another tune.

00:12:51.600 I'm Roger Stone. This is The Roger Stone Show.

00:12:53.940 And we'll be right back.

00:12:58.940 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:13:06.080 Well, the Trump administration has a fox in the hen house.

00:13:10.120 I think the president and his aides must remain on guard against subversive forces that are looking to undermine the president's agenda from within.

00:13:18.940 Many of them are burrowed deep into federal bureaucracy.

00:13:22.100 Some of them in less high profile jobs where they hope they can slither their way without public recognition.

00:13:28.660 One of these examples shocking is the SEC.

00:13:31.660 I believe he is the director of enforcement, the number two position at the SEC, Sam Walden.

00:13:39.480 Walden is a multi-time Biden-Harris donor, even donating to Kamala Harris just two days before the election day of 2024.

00:13:47.120 Despite his open political advocacy for Democrats, he still masquerades as a neutral enforcer who stands up for the rule of law.

00:13:55.380 But he was one of the key engineers of Operation Chokepoint 2.0, policies that tried to treat cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, and the alternative monetary system that has flourished in the world and under Donald Trump, claiming that certain elements that they were selling were securities, charging people for lacking a license to sell securities.

00:14:19.380 securities. Walden himself was one of the key architects of the Biden era assault by then

00:14:25.940 chairman of the SEC, Gary Gensler, against the entire crypto industry. It was under Walden's

00:14:34.860 enforcement regime. Gensler initiated the policy to debank crypto coin entrepreneurs and treat

00:14:41.220 them as if they were selling drugs or weapons. President Trump, of course, has reversed these

00:14:47.020 It talked about the important role that the cryptocurrency and Bitcoin will play in the world's economic future as well as the country's economic future.

00:14:57.020 But this is really extraordinary to learn that someone who is responsible for filing most of the most egregious lawsuits against crypto entrepreneurs, some of the most outrageous, heavy handed efforts to destroy crypto is in the number two position in the Trump administration's SEC.

00:15:23.700 see uh and how this has happened we don't know but i very easy to go online to look at his

00:15:29.920 contributing a pattern uh it is uh it is uh extraordinarily clear that this person is a

00:15:37.820 vicious partisan and their role in arctic frost alone is problematic arctic frost is the most

00:15:44.700 extra constitutional illegal politically and legally unbelievable operation by the

00:15:53.340 the government using government authority and power to to violate the constitutional rights

00:16:02.220 of people like donald trump and myself the idea that you compile a list of people just randomly

00:16:08.700 conservatives, Trump supporters, Republican and conservative organizations that would

00:16:13.600 surveil all of them without probable cause, that you would go out of your way to try to frame them

00:16:20.040 for crimes is beyond belief. And the underlying premise of Mueller's case, pardon me, of Smith's

00:16:28.500 cases are absurd. Alternative electors are not prohibited by law. They have reached American

00:16:34.900 history forming an alternative electorate slate while there's ongoing litigation regarding the

00:16:40.560 outcome of any given state election saved Hawaii for John Kennedy in 1960 and is not in itself a

00:16:47.300 crime. But spying on U.S. senators is unacceptable. That's very clear. There's growing evidence that

00:16:54.200 Gina Haspel at the CIA spied on a House committee that was investigating what the CIA knew about the

00:17:01.760 alleged russian collusion which she knew was fabricated but did nothing to stop and tell the

00:17:07.960 man who appointed her gina haspel by the way previously john brennan's top operative in london

00:17:13.680 uh i don't know who sold this to the president in his first term but it was an error we'll be right

00:17:20.040 back the stone zone entertaining and informative on the red apple podcast network

00:17:29.980 on november 30th honduras held a presidential election two days before that president donald

00:17:38.900 trump issued a full and unconditional pardon to former honduran president juan orlando hernandez

00:17:46.560 that's because the president examined the case against hernandez as i did and saw that he was

00:17:54.600 lynched using the same kind of tactics that jack smith and robert muller tried to use on donald

00:18:01.380 trump and set up on fabricated charges of drug trafficking when in fact he was the president

00:18:09.180 of honduras who signed an extradition treaty for drug traffickers and the very drug traffickers

00:18:16.560 that he agreed to extradite the united states ended up as the principal witnesses against him

00:18:23.620 All of them convicted drug traffickers, all of whom got a get out of jail free card. 0.60

00:18:31.500 This was a politically motivated lynching with a political motivation to stop the Nationalist Party and to extend the neo, the narco Marxist regime of Xiomar Castro, who admits that she admires Fidel Castro. 0.53

00:18:51.880 And they have now, it appears to me, lost this election.

00:18:54.940 But first, I want to say this is the first time that President Hernandez and I have ever spoken.

00:18:59.420 We've never communicated directly.

00:19:01.280 I became aware of his case and the dynamics of Honduran politics.

00:19:05.100 I wrote about them extensively.

00:19:06.640 I reached the conclusion that he had been framed in a flimsy case against him for political reasons.

00:19:13.760 I advocated publicly and privately for his pardon.

00:19:17.260 And I thank God that he has listened and President Trump has done the right thing.

00:19:22.800 A man unjustly sentenced to a 45-year sentence for crimes he did not commit.

00:19:29.280 President Hernandez, welcome to The Roger Stone Show.

00:19:33.480 Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Roger Stone.

00:19:37.160 Thank you for having me.

00:19:38.300 if you allow me to thank publicly to the Lord God

00:19:45.000 that helped me to overcome this terrible situation.

00:19:50.940 But also I want to thank President Trump

00:19:53.340 who took the courage to correct this great injustice.

00:19:59.960 And it was, as you know, he granted me a full and unconditional pardon.

00:20:04.900 Of course, my family, my friends, so many people in Honduras and in another country

00:20:12.980 praying for almost four years asking for this.

00:20:17.820 But especially now that I am talking to you for the first time, I want to thank you

00:20:23.260 because you took the time to investigate.

00:20:27.340 You learned about my case, and you did a very important job that anybody who could speak about something like my case should have done in order to know what really happened.

00:20:47.000 So I really appreciate the way you handle this because you do, you did a research, you investigate all your team and you know the situation in detail.

00:20:57.860 And whoever knows my case in detail, they really know that I was wrongfully convicted and that I was the one who at that time in Honduras made the decision to confront the narcotraffickers because nobody wanted to do it because they felt that they had been killing so many people who have tried.

00:21:24.640 And also, they remember what happened in Colombia, the narco-terrorism at that time when they're trying to extradite Pablo Escobar and the other narcos.

00:21:36.940 And at one point, I told somebody in Congress when I was a speaker of Congress in Honduras,

00:21:44.260 knowing that eight out of ten cases of violence in Honduras are related to drug trafficking,

00:21:53.680 And if we don't do something, it's like there is no point of being here in Congress.

00:22:00.880 At that time, Mr. Stone, Honduras was the country with the highest motorway in the planet.

00:22:08.140 And I am the one of those people, if I know something, I cannot look the other way.

00:22:14.300 Because if I look the other way, it's because I made the decision of not doing anything.

00:22:20.000 So I confronted this.

00:22:21.520 And almost a century, we didn't have any tradition at all between the United States and Honduras. 0.88

00:22:32.820 I lead the process to amend our constitution to create other very important legal instruments and policies to fight these criminals.

00:22:45.340 and at the end, the Biden administration, the deep state, framed me.

00:22:53.020 And they weaponized the justice system to put me in jail

00:22:58.120 in order to let the bad guys free.

00:23:03.880 But also, they did it because they wanted the political allies,

00:23:08.920 the very radical left in Honduras, to become empowered.

00:23:12.360 Now that a lot of information is coming out,

00:23:15.340 There are videos, there are recordings, documents linking the radical left party who already lost the election in Honduras last Sunday.

00:23:26.160 They were really linked.

00:23:28.580 They had that evidence since 2013, and the DOJ didn't use it.

00:23:36.600 And my question is why?

00:23:38.440 and possibly the answer is

00:23:40.580 because they were protecting them

00:23:42.440 because they want the radical left

00:23:44.780 to become in power and in order to do

00:23:46.860 that they have to destroy my

00:23:48.820 aimers, attack my 0.56

00:23:50.720 party and the institution 0.74

00:23:52.880 in Honduras in order

00:23:54.680 to be radical left to become

00:23:56.920 in power but now

00:23:58.620 you know the

00:23:59.580 public in Honduras

00:24:02.580 the citizens

00:24:03.400 they overwhelmingly

00:24:05.620 rejected that trail

00:24:07.940 ideology of the radical

00:24:10.220 left, and they are losing

00:24:11.800 very bad. But anyway,

00:24:14.600 thank you for having me.

00:24:16.100 It is really amazing.

00:24:18.200 At your trial, a U.S. government

00:24:19.940 representative gave false testimony

00:24:22.300 claiming that cocaine trafficking to the United

00:24:24.220 States had increased drastically under

00:24:25.880 your administration, when in fact that was

00:24:28.160 entirely false, that you signed

00:24:30.160 numerous cooperative agreements with the United States,

00:24:32.300 including, as you point out, for the first time

00:24:34.140 ever, an extradition treaty

00:24:35.720 to crack down our president trump publicly praised you for doing that the case against you is largely

00:24:41.320 based on conjecture but more importantly the testimony of two murderous cartel leaders who

00:24:46.360 had an axe to grind against you because your administration prosecuted them and extradited

00:24:51.800 them and these both of them were extradited to the united states in 2004 under the agreement

00:25:00.480 that you sign both of these men are hardened to criminals murderers they played the DEA I think

00:25:07.540 masterfully but it takes two to tango and the Biden Justice Department was in the same mode

00:25:14.940 they were in their case against me and the differences here are really extraordinary

00:25:20.540 James Comey and I are charged with the exact same crime yet he is he has no 6 a.m. raid

00:25:27.460 The judge puts no gag on him.

00:25:30.920 He is allowed to argue, as I wasn't, that he was politically targeted, that this was

00:25:36.760 selective prosecution.

00:25:37.880 You, sir, were absolutely framed.

00:25:39.620 The hard left, the narrative, he's driving him crazy.

00:25:42.240 Trump pardons a drug trafficker, the Esquire magazine.

00:25:48.160 None of these people have examined the case against you.

00:25:50.620 They need to read the case file, and they will see that you were a target.

00:25:55.960 I want to talk about the most recent election.

00:26:00.380 You made a very good point, which is that Libra has run last, posting, I think, a 19 percent finish, embarrassing for the party in power.

00:26:11.660 and former vice president, Salvador Nasrall,

00:26:17.200 who I believe was planted in this race

00:26:19.620 to try to siphon votes from Tito Asfura.

00:26:25.180 Certainly appears that way to me.

00:26:28.360 He now joins the Marxists in trying to avoid

00:26:31.140 what I think was a legitimate election

00:26:32.760 that was won by Tito Asfura.

00:26:35.280 What say you, sir?

00:26:37.840 Well, the information that I have is that

00:26:40.900 All the documents of each polling session that my party already have and the other parties all indicate that Titus Fura is the one who wins the election.

00:26:56.940 Right now, they are starting the process of verifying a few documents of some polling sessions that they have to review.

00:27:09.420 But all indicates that the winner clearly is Tito Asfura.

00:27:16.500 But what the people in Honduras have realized from, let's say, three, four days ago until now,

00:27:25.980 is that Nasrallah and Mel Zelaya from the Liberal Party,

00:27:30.940 they are talking again and trying to get together in order to overturn the election.

00:27:36.000 But everybody has seen the election. We have a lot of observers from international observers, Honduran observers, and the Honduran people are fed up.

00:27:48.360 And even the army, I believe that they already said the process is doing well. We have to finish it and we have to respect what is what is the result.

00:28:01.060 At this point, civil society, organizations, private sectors, churches, everybody is saying, let's finish this.

00:28:12.660 And we cannot allow any wrongdoing because the process has to finish as it is.

00:28:20.180 So I feel really confident that the result is going to be positive for the National Party at the three levels.

00:28:27.860 Presidential level, the mayoral elections, too, and Congress.

00:28:33.460 But, of course, you know the left, the radical left.

00:28:36.660 They have a playbook.

00:28:38.000 Yes, they certainly.

00:28:39.160 They even said before every election that if they don't win, it's because it's a foul.

00:28:49.920 Yeah, it was rigged.

00:28:51.340 You know what it is.

00:28:52.120 This is their playbook.

00:28:53.320 We're talking to former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez, a man who's just told you that he was sustained by his faith in God.

00:29:01.660 And he fervently prayed that he would be delivered from from these horrific prisons where he was framed.

00:29:08.300 And anyone who will look at his case will see that.

00:29:11.020 What's really amazing is that when I tried to obtain through Freedom of Information Acts, the publicly available documents regarding the plea deal done with the two drug traffickers who testified against him,

00:29:23.320 Those documents the government won't hand over.

00:29:26.700 This was a fraudulent conviction of an honest man.

00:29:30.700 I was very honored to have the first lady, former first lady of Honduras, Ana Garcia de Hernandez, and their daughters, Ana Daniela Hernandez and Isabella Hernandez on with me.

00:29:43.340 But we we again only communicated after this great act of mercy and justice by Donald Trump.

00:29:50.180 So we are in a historic time. 0.91

00:29:54.380 Honduras is a prize to the narco-traffickers. 0.95

00:29:57.780 It would join Venezuela and Cuba as orbits for them. 0.99

00:30:01.960 And, of course, they have the willing, complicit assistance of the Chinese. 0.97

00:30:06.740 So I'm glad to see that Marco Rubio is standing up to this threat. 0.96

00:30:12.360 It remains to be seen whether the legitimate election in Honduras will be honored

00:30:16.780 or whether there is a Marxist coup d'etat in our backyard,

00:30:20.880 something that Marco Rubio and President Trump would have to deal with

00:30:24.040 as they are dealing with Venezuela, as they must deal with Cuba.

00:30:28.200 In the meantime, it's my great honor to have with us

00:30:30.760 a former Honduran President Juan Orlando Nadez,

00:30:33.980 a man who was unjustly sent to hell,

00:30:36.780 but through prayer and reason is able to join us today.

00:30:41.920 And anyone who wants to examine the case for pardoning him,

00:30:45.020 I have written extensively about it.

00:30:47.100 The evidence was manipulated here in a in a Jack Smith, Jack Mueller judicial, I should say prosecutorial overreach and politically motivated frame job that is very flimsy indeed.

00:31:02.320 So I have no qualms about being an advocate for this pardon.

00:31:06.340 And I'm honored that you would join us today.

00:31:08.640 You're listening to The Roger Stone Show on the Red Apple Audio Networks.

00:31:12.860 And we'll be right back with the former president of Honduras on the other side.

00:31:21.560 The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

00:31:28.820 And we're back with former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernandez.

00:31:33.780 During the Biden-Harris administration's campaign to retribution against President Trump and his allies,

00:31:38.800 They zeroed in on Hernandez and incurred favor with the far-left Libra Party.

00:31:44.200 The Libra Party was led by Xiomar Castro, part of the infamous Zelaya family,

00:31:50.140 with deep ties to both Cuba and Venezuelan communists, including Maduro.

00:31:56.420 But those ties did not faze the Biden Department, and President Hernandez was framed in a vicious assault.

00:32:03.820 They filed their indictment to him on January 27th, one day after Hernandez left office,

00:32:08.180 as Vice President Kamala Harris traveled to Honduras to celebrate the inauguration of narco-Marxist Xiomara Castro

00:32:17.200 to put the Biden administration's seal of approval on this leftist regime.

00:32:22.460 So I'm going to ask the former president, Mr. President, take off your hat as a statesman,

00:32:28.140 take off your hat as a president, put on your hat as a politician and answer this.

00:32:34.040 The elections were held on Sunday, November 30th, on Friday.

00:32:37.900 To the surprise of everybody, including yours truly, President Donald Trump took to True Social to announce hours after he'd already endorsed Tito Aspera that he was going to grant you a free and unconditional pardon.

00:32:52.180 And I know that moment of relief.

00:32:54.480 But here's my question. Did the fact that that dominated the news in Honduras for the closing days of the election, did this benefit the nationalists at the end who won a very narrow but significant victory?

00:33:07.460 it is indeed that's what it is the the thing is this you know in central america and um

00:33:19.460 there's there has been a lot of influence from the venezuelan regime and um but people was

00:33:29.540 people always thought that

00:33:32.220 maybe something

00:33:34.220 were true

00:33:35.220 or were not true, for example

00:33:38.100 all the ordeals that in

00:33:39.980 Venezuela and people have been living

00:33:41.600 for more than a decade

00:33:43.300 under the regimen of Maduro

00:33:45.560 but when President Trump

00:33:47.400 said it clearly

00:33:49.560 that these guys

00:33:51.940 were

00:33:53.480 put it in simple words

00:33:55.540 the bad guys

00:33:57.000 a frail ideology

00:34:00.220 the radical left

00:34:01.620 so people started to pay attention

00:34:04.340 but also when he said

00:34:06.440 that the former

00:34:08.220 vice president could be

00:34:10.220 also related with them

00:34:11.740 it was another hit

00:34:13.880 a very important one and of course

00:34:16.320 when he talked about

00:34:17.700 that he

00:34:18.640 President Trump said

00:34:21.500 we are going to work with that

00:34:23.340 very closely

00:34:24.920 and I am pardoning President Juan Orlando,

00:34:29.080 my party received like an energizing push.

00:34:37.540 Of course, it is a validation that you were framed.

00:34:42.000 It's exoneration.

00:34:43.400 The president looked at your case and he made a judgment

00:34:45.500 that you had been politically lynched.

00:34:47.160 Your name hadn't been destroyed.

00:34:48.600 You had been sent to prison for 45 years,

00:34:51.520 separated from your beautiful family.

00:34:53.140 it is true as my colleague Matt Gates pointed out that the evidence against your brother is

00:35:00.060 stronger than the evidence they presented against you which was frankly very flimsy but there was

00:35:04.520 no evidence that you participated in any illegal activity with your brother or anyone else and you

00:35:09.660 had asked the the the authorities in Honduras to investigate your brother during your time as

00:35:16.220 president to be certain that you had no conflicts but of course that won't be written in Esquire

00:35:20.920 magazine or any of the other liberal spots. So I want to send my heartfelt thanks for your faith

00:35:31.600 in God, your faith in President Donald Trump, your commitment to stop the Marxist narco-drug 0.98

00:35:37.820 traffickers. I know what it is to have your name dragged through the mud when you've done 0.99

00:35:41.700 nothing wrong. I know what it is to face a vicious all-power federal judiciary with unlimited

00:35:48.820 resources and leftist

00:35:51.440 activist judges

00:35:53.180 in their pocket, but you

00:35:55.320 have transcended that

00:35:56.780 and you go on to fight

00:35:59.060 for the freedom of the Honduran

00:36:01.180 people because the fight

00:36:03.020 never ends. I want to thank

00:36:04.820 President Juan Orlando Hernandez.

00:36:07.800 My friend, God bless you

00:36:09.160 and Godspeed.

00:36:11.580 God bless you and thank you very much.

00:36:15.120 There you have it, folks. It's a narrative

00:36:17.140 The left doesn't like, but this man was lynched.

00:36:20.660 If anyone will examine his conviction and those who testified against him, these are the very people he prosecuted.

00:36:28.360 They got out of jail.

00:36:29.660 This is what we call a fugazi.

00:36:31.720 That's it for us today on The Roger Stone Show.

00:36:33.880 Thanks for tuning in.

00:36:34.840 Until next time, God bless you and Godspeed.

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