The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Trump Sets Record With Largest Campaign Rally In American History – The StoneZONE w⧸ Roger Stone

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.

00:00:08.960 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:13.320 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:18.940 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:24.580 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:29.300 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:35.320 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:42.620 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:48.500 President Donald Trump made history this weekend with what is most likely the largest single outdoor rally

00:00:58.580 in U.S. presidential campaign history.

00:01:03.540 They're estimating, and I spoke to the police chief, 100,000 people in Wildwood, New Jersey.

00:01:12.320 This clearly sets an absolute record, and I believe it demonstrates that both New Jersey is in play

00:01:21.820 and Pennsylvania is looking stronger and stronger for the president.

00:01:28.160 Last night, I posted a photo of a concert scene in Rio de Janeiro that was a crowd that was almost this big.

00:01:41.400 And, of course, leftists on X went out of their minds.

00:01:45.720 Liberals have no sense of humor.

00:01:47.660 Here to discuss this momentous political achievement and the rally and what it means politically,

00:01:55.420 first, my co-host, Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.News.

00:02:02.860 Roger, as always, it's an honor.

00:02:04.620 And you having a lot of history with New Jersey, I know this is a special day for you, especially.

00:02:09.720 Well, the best part here is we're going to be able to talk to a man who not only was there at the rally,

00:02:16.620 but actually spoke to the rally.

00:02:19.980 Mike Crispy, who does the Great Last Call show, as well as Mike Crispy Unafraid, joins us now in the Stone Zone.

00:02:30.740 Great to see you guys.

00:02:35.360 What a weekend, huh?

00:02:37.480 Unbelievable.

00:02:38.200 By the way, nice tie.

00:02:40.680 Nice tie.

00:02:42.720 Oh, thank you, Roger.

00:02:44.460 It means a lot coming from you.

00:02:47.160 Mike, in the 45 years I've been in American politics,

00:02:51.820 in the over, you know, in the 13 national presidential campaigns that I have been in,

00:02:57.880 I've never seen anything quite like this.

00:03:01.780 I know that those who were planning the president's rally at the shore were hoping for 30,000 to 35,000 people.

00:03:11.820 I actually checked with the Wildwood Police Department this morning.

00:03:15.280 They're saying that the number is closer to 100,000, somewhere between 85,000 and 100 people.

00:03:24.300 How did you feel when you saw it was going down in Wildwood?

00:03:30.360 Well, Roger, I mean, I first got wind that this rally was going to be unbelievable

00:03:34.580 when people were sending me messages on X on Thursday, already camped outside.

00:03:40.720 I said, they're already there on Thursday.

00:03:42.780 And it was a cold couple of days leading up to the rally.

00:03:45.780 So people were camped outside two days in advance.

00:03:49.240 And I said, something special is shaping up here.

00:03:51.680 And then the night before the rally, I got down into Wildwood and everything packed.

00:03:57.100 You couldn't get a hotel room.

00:03:58.800 You couldn't get anything.

00:04:00.200 You couldn't get into a restaurant or a bar.

00:04:02.080 There were signs everywhere, flags waving.

00:04:04.600 It was like Trump town USA.

00:04:07.180 So I said, okay, this is really interesting.

00:04:09.080 And then the morning of the rally came, and if you went anywhere in the vicinity in a two-mile radius of the Wildwood boardwalk,

00:04:16.080 it was flooded with Trump supporters.

00:04:18.860 The line was literally, they say, two miles long.

00:04:22.720 So it started to shape up to be just this incredible, incredible crowd.

00:04:27.320 And I was talking to my friends over at RSBN in a pregame interview, and they were even saying, you know,

00:04:33.460 we've been to a lot of rallies, and I've been to probably 20 of them.

00:04:36.440 And, you know, those guys, they go to every single one.

00:04:39.140 They said, something special is happening here because this just might be the most energetic one we've ever been to.

00:04:44.560 And then, Roger, obviously, by the time the rally started, it was so evidently clear to everybody that has two eyeballs

00:04:52.780 and isn't a mentally a leftist that it was the biggest campaign rally in history.

00:04:58.680 And it was such an honor to have been a part of it and to have addressed that crowd.

00:05:04.040 Mike Crispy got a chance to talk to the crowd himself.

00:05:07.120 Let's take a look at that.

00:05:14.560 Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage, Mike Crispy.

00:05:28.240 I think we can say this is the biggest crowd in New Jersey political history.

00:05:39.540 And ladies and gentlemen, I don't know if you saw the recent polls,

00:05:44.160 but President Trump is about to take the lead in New Jersey.

00:05:53.220 It turns out that the great people of New Jersey don't like higher taxes.

00:05:59.560 They don't like foreign wars.

00:06:01.760 And they don't like a president who can't stay awake all day.

00:06:08.840 Ladies and gentlemen, we have a historic opportunity,

00:06:12.640 but the number one question that I get asked is how do we prevent them from stealing this election?

00:06:21.400 How are we going to prevent it?

00:06:23.100 And I'm here to tell you, we are going to be too big to rig.

00:06:29.100 Now, my group, the America First Republicans of New Jersey,

00:06:37.880 we have devised a grassroots volunteer organization

00:06:42.580 to ensure that we overwhelm the fraud

00:06:47.260 and we ask every single one of you to become part of it.

00:06:51.860 It is called Project 14.

00:06:55.480 Now, all we're doing is following the instructions

00:07:00.020 that the greatest president of our lifetime has laid out.

00:07:04.280 Here's what we need to do.

00:07:06.160 We need to overwhelm the fraud from every single angle.

00:07:12.220 If they're going to ballot harvest, we're going to ballot harvest.

00:07:15.840 If they're going to send the mail-ins, we're going to get the vote by mail.

00:07:21.880 If they're going to vote by any type of way, vote early.

00:07:27.060 We're going to vote early.

00:07:28.440 And then on Election Day, we're going to have more people than they can even count.

00:07:33.820 It's going to be amazing.

00:07:35.260 So, Project 14 is very simple.

00:07:42.520 And you can all sign up at AmericaFirstRepublicansNJ.com to be involved

00:07:46.600 because we need all of you.

00:07:48.640 This president has given us so much.

00:07:51.180 He's fighting every day.

00:07:52.560 These whack jobs in court.

00:07:54.580 He's traveling the country on the weekends and campaigning

00:07:57.600 when they're not holding them in a courtroom, Soviet style.

00:08:01.220 So, here's what we do with Project 14.

00:08:03.320 We got 14 electoral votes in New Jersey.

00:08:07.280 14.

00:08:08.280 I need each and every one.

00:08:14.080 Dynamic.

00:08:15.380 I also think you're absolutely right, Mike, in the sense of in order to not only win,

00:08:21.120 but to ensure that we have a free, fair, honest, transparent election,

00:08:26.960 we must do everything.

00:08:28.280 It's not enough to just go out and identify and turn out enough voters to beat the cheat.

00:08:36.640 But we also have to ensure that only those who are legally eligible to vote actually vote.

00:08:43.960 The good news is, I know the Trump campaign and now the Republican National Committee

00:08:49.280 are completely focused on these various issues.

00:08:54.000 I cannot say that that was true six months ago, but it's definitely true today.

00:08:59.240 President Trump really liked your remarks.

00:09:01.980 Take a look at this.

00:09:02.860 And a man that made a hell of a speech today, I'll tell you, Mike Crispy.

00:09:09.100 Where's Mike?

00:09:10.460 Man, did he make a good speech.

00:09:12.360 Thank you, Mike.

00:09:13.280 I watched you from the plane flying overhead.

00:09:15.940 I said, that guy's good.

00:09:17.360 Good.

00:09:17.920 And I know you have big plans for the future and we're with you.

00:09:21.460 Say hello to everybody.

00:09:22.540 You're our mutual friends.

00:09:23.820 Okay.

00:09:24.520 Thank you.

00:09:25.260 Good man.

00:09:26.640 And a man I've gotten to know.

00:09:27.940 There you go.

00:09:30.760 Maybe I'm the mutual friend.

00:09:32.120 Who knows?

00:09:34.120 I think maybe you are, Roger.

00:09:37.920 I mean, some of these crowd shots, we might have a video giving you some idea of the size

00:09:44.460 of the crowd.

00:09:46.580 This is a new phenomena in politics.

00:09:50.000 It used to be that when you had a rally, even a presidential rally, you had to go out and

00:09:55.020 work to get cheeks in seats. 1.00

00:09:57.080 It was a huge undertaking to get the kind of turnout.

00:10:01.180 Donald Trump is a natural political phenomena.

00:10:04.180 He is a force of nature.

00:10:07.060 Now, I don't think Mike Crispy or Troy Smith would claim that all of these people were from

00:10:15.040 New Jersey.

00:10:16.280 Obviously, many of them are.

00:10:18.200 But every state here in the tri-state area, in the New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania,

00:10:27.120 I should say the four-state area, every one of those states is now conceivably in play.

00:10:32.480 Pennsylvania is a swing state.

00:10:34.720 Polling shows us that for the first time in decades, thanks to the high tax policies of

00:10:40.140 Phil Murphy and the disastrous economic policies of Joe Biden, that New Jersey is in play.

00:10:48.060 And it is not inconceivable that the Empire State, New York, could be in play.

00:10:54.860 Now, I'd have to see a lot of polling to convince me of that before I was prepared to put resources

00:11:01.140 into it, but we're far closer in the polling than we ever were in 2020 or 2016.

00:11:08.920 I think there is a national voter uprising over the policies of Joe Biden.

00:11:16.820 What is, Steve, let me ask you this, Mike, your assessment on New Jersey.

00:11:23.720 You said it from the platform, but was that rhetoric or do you really believe New Jersey is in play?

00:11:29.160 Well, Roger, I definitely think it is.

00:11:33.400 And here's why.

00:11:34.100 I mean, the recent polling right now, and this was polling done a couple of weeks ago.

00:11:38.620 I mean, it hasn't accounted for the fact that President Trump continues to surge in every

00:11:42.880 single metric as more people are exposed to the fraud in the courtroom.

00:11:46.060 They're seeing the whack jobs like, you know, Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen being exposed.

00:11:50.660 These are supposed to be the stars for the Democrat Party.

00:11:52.820 And all it's doing is helping President Trump.

00:11:55.000 They say this is all these people have.

00:11:56.380 They see Biden continuing to stumble.

00:11:58.160 There was that interview the other day where when he was asked about inflation, he just

00:12:01.620 grumbled and bumbled and couldn't give an answer.

00:12:03.820 They look at Biden's declining health and then they look at Kamala and they say, that's

00:12:07.320 who's next up.

00:12:08.240 So that's all been really magnified in the last couple of weeks after the poll that was

00:12:14.020 done that had Trump within five points in New Jersey.

00:12:17.200 So that's why I said he is about to take the lead in New Jersey.

00:12:20.800 And then the next thing that leads me to believe it's in play is that in every single substrat

00:12:25.720 of demographic of how they do polling and New Jersey is a very diverse state.

00:12:30.180 Trump is up in those two.

00:12:31.640 So you would say that, you know, in New Jersey, we have a voting block, especially North Jersey,

00:12:36.280 of black voters.

00:12:37.440 We have a voting block of Latino voters. 0.93

00:12:40.740 We have a voting block of suburban mobs. 0.98

00:12:42.980 We have a voting block of, you know, people who care about the economy is the most important

00:12:47.020 thing.

00:12:47.300 So these are all polling metrics that if you're breaking it down specifically, Trump

00:12:52.480 is only going up in every single one in the last couple of months.

00:12:55.920 So in the overall state, he's within five.

00:12:58.520 And then every single demographic in North Jersey, which is essentially, you know, the

00:13:03.280 purple area, every single demographic, he's up.

00:13:05.920 So I know that he's going to win South Jersey by a massive margin.

00:13:09.620 I know with that crowd that South Jersey is going to turn out for him now more than ever.

00:13:14.260 He's incredibly popular in South Jersey.

00:13:16.420 North Jersey, you know it, Roger, from being, you know, a leader in New Jersey politics for

00:13:20.740 so long.

00:13:21.660 North Jersey is pretty purple, okay, in a lot of those congressional districts.

00:13:25.000 And they have gone blue over the last, you know, couple of years.

00:13:28.100 But it seems like, based on all these metrics, it's going to go back red.

00:13:32.840 So if he dominates South Jersey and just plays close and gets over a little bit in some areas

00:13:38.600 in North Jersey, that's the recipe to win the state.

00:13:41.260 So I think out of all these swing states, okay, out of all these traditionally blue states,

00:13:45.680 New Jersey has the demographic makeup that can really shock the world.

00:13:50.640 But I always say it's going to shock the world, but nobody who watches this show is going to

00:13:54.360 be shocked because we've seen it coming from a mile away.

00:13:57.620 Really excited about it, Roger.

00:13:58.880 We'll be back with Mike Crispy.

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00:15:21.200 I should sit here and say, yeah, I got a lot of, yeah, I got a lot of regrets.

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00:15:43.140 for lying to the FBI.

00:15:44.620 He was one of the most respected generals in the military.

00:15:46.800 He was, by definition, the most dangerous possible person.

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00:15:59.960 Welcome back, folks.

00:16:26.040 If you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone, and this is The Stone Zone.

00:16:30.220 We're here with Mike Crispy, who is the host of Mike Crispy Unafraid, and also Last Call

00:16:37.060 with Mike Crispy.

00:16:38.240 You can find both of them on Rumble.

00:16:40.480 They're both incredible high-energy shows, even late at night, high-energy shows.

00:16:46.380 And, of course, also joining me is my co-host, Troy Smith.

00:16:51.660 Troy, the next question to Mike Crispy goes to you.

00:16:55.180 My question would be, you know, as we're looking at the mainstream media and what they're

00:17:00.780 reporting, especially about President Trump, they're painting it as, oh, there's all these

00:17:04.800 Republicans that are still supporting Nikki Haley, and they're trying to make the case

00:17:08.260 that Trump is a divisive candidate.

00:17:10.020 But what you just laid out shows that I think Trump's making gains in places that no other

00:17:15.140 Republican could.

00:17:16.020 Could you speak to that for a minute?

00:17:17.760 No other Republican could make the gains we're seeing in New Jersey like President Trump is

00:17:22.080 doing right now, could they?

00:17:25.180 Well, Troy, it's a good question because, you know, people are always making President

00:17:28.960 Trump out to be like this caricature on the fake news media.

00:17:33.040 Oh, he's so divisive. 1.00

00:17:34.380 He's so crazy. 0.98

00:17:35.700 It's like, what did the guy get up there and talk about? 0.84

00:17:37.740 He talked about the fact that the food prices right now are 30, 40, 50 percent higher.

00:17:42.100 How are people even going to eat?

00:17:43.780 About the fact that illegals are getting resettled in major cities in New Jersey and then bust out 0.98

00:17:49.140 and relocated into the suburbs.

00:17:50.860 He talked about the fact that leaders in New Jersey care about the environment but are putting

00:17:55.320 up these windmills that are killing the wildlife and killing the whales.

00:17:59.340 And then he talked about having a secure country where we stand with our allies and prevent war

00:18:04.200 in the Middle East.

00:18:05.520 How is that a divisive, crazy statement?

00:18:07.920 Nobody's going out for Nikki Haley.

00:18:09.760 And then there was this fake news story, which Roger debunked in quick time, about Nikki Haley

00:18:13.820 being considered for VP. 0.99

00:18:15.600 I mean, that was just pure garbage. 1.00

00:18:17.120 People don't want that. 0.99

00:18:18.200 People don't want foreign wars. 0.76

00:18:20.400 People just want a president who's going to talk to them in his plain terms as President

00:18:24.680 Trump was on that stage in Wildwood.

00:18:27.160 He said it.

00:18:27.880 It's a message of common sense.

00:18:29.340 President Trump said that in a speech in New Jersey.

00:18:31.500 And that was the message to that base.

00:18:33.880 Guys, listen, I'm a common sense guy.

00:18:35.780 I'm a businessman.

00:18:36.460 I've been in New Jersey.

00:18:37.620 Like, I'm just trying to make the country great again.

00:18:41.140 And these people are coming after me in court.

00:18:42.980 And they're keeping me tied up in the courtroom because they don't want me to deliver this

00:18:46.340 message that is based upon putting you first, getting your economy back on track, keeping

00:18:51.520 your streets safe.

00:18:52.820 That's a message that is just a common sense message, as President Trump said.

00:18:56.060 And it's going to play well.

00:18:57.660 And nobody, and I mean nobody, wants Nikki Haley because she'll start a war. 0.82

00:19:02.780 Nobody wants a war.

00:19:03.540 Yeah, the Nikki Haley trial balloon of late last week, I think, was because today Nikki Haley

00:19:12.340 has a big fundraiser for her super PAC in South Carolina.

00:19:17.140 So I think that story was leaked in order for her to have relevance.

00:19:22.380 Spoke to the president myself.

00:19:24.900 Nikki Haley is not under consideration for vice president.

00:19:28.980 Period.

00:19:29.800 Full stop.

00:19:30.520 So that was fake information.

00:19:34.800 Mike, one thing that I think they have made a miscalculation about is they thought that

00:19:40.620 having Donald Trump pinned down in New York City in this cold, drafty courtroom for these

00:19:47.420 dreadfully long and insulting procedures in which, for example, the adult movie actress

00:19:55.720 Stormy Daniels probably did more damage to the government's case than she did good. 1.00

00:20:03.140 But where Trump has been very effective has been using these visits within the New York

00:20:09.000 City media market to drive his message home, whether it is going to the wake of the New

00:20:15.580 York City police officer who was shot and killed by a man who had 21 prior arrests, but

00:20:21.940 the liberal New York justice system would not hold this guy in prison, or whether it is

00:20:27.500 visiting the bodega of the poor guy whose bodega was robbed, but the police arrested him instead

00:20:35.500 of the robber.

00:20:36.880 Or whether it's going to the firehouse and delivering pizzas for the hardworking men and women who

00:20:43.740 are protecting New York City when it comes to fire protection.

00:20:47.360 All of these are perfect examples of Trump's ability to dominate the news cycle right there

00:20:55.800 in the New York City media market, by the way, the number one media market in the country.

00:21:02.420 So I think what they have miscalculated is that when he's not in that courtroom, Donald Trump

00:21:08.580 can make news anytime he wants.

00:21:11.480 And he made perhaps the biggest news in American political history in this rally on Saturday.

00:21:22.180 We've got a bite of him at the rally that we can't stop laughing over.

00:21:26.500 Let's take a look at that. 0.99

00:21:28.040 If I didn't like you, you'd be dead the next morning. 1.00

00:21:30.580 And I got indicted more than him on bullshit, too. 1.00

00:21:34.980 Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! 1.00

00:21:50.600 My father's looking down. I had a father who is great. 1.00

00:21:53.540 My mother...

00:21:53.980 This is a joke that he makes over and over again, but he's not wrong in the sense that

00:22:01.780 this tsunami of lawfare and all these cases against him has had the direct opposite intended

00:22:09.040 effect of what his persecutors were hoping for.

00:22:13.160 The American people are seeing through this.

00:22:15.740 His numbers are solidifying.

00:22:18.500 He continues to gain among key democratic demographics, such as young people, African-Americans,

00:22:25.780 Hispanic Americans, and so on.

00:22:29.640 I'm growingly optimistic that New Jersey is indeed in play.

00:22:36.760 It's true that New Jersey has trended against us demographically in the last couple of years.

00:22:45.660 But there's always a course correction in New Jersey.

00:22:49.640 When democratic policies get to be too much, when taxes, particularly property taxes, are out

00:22:57.860 of sight, now you add the sour economy of Joe Biden, I really think, Mike, you're right

00:23:04.820 about the fact that this can actually be a historic sea change in the Garden State.

00:23:12.260 And, of course, Pennsylvania becomes one of the absolute keys.

00:23:17.460 A lot of people there from Pennsylvania yesterday.

00:23:19.700 No, Mike?

00:23:20.160 Yeah, there absolutely was.

00:23:25.920 And, you know, I said this as well, you know, when I was doing some interviews, I think this

00:23:30.360 is something that people need to really, really think about, is you have a situation where

00:23:36.240 Trump is playing in these states.

00:23:37.720 He's playing in New Jersey.

00:23:38.740 He's playing in New York.

00:23:40.080 And here's the thing.

00:23:40.780 What is that going to do?

00:23:41.560 All these polling figures that come out, having him within single digits, that trend continues

00:23:46.500 and the DNC will have to take resources out of the swing states, out of Nevada, out of

00:23:51.840 Michigan, out of Wisconsin, out of Pennsylvania.

00:23:54.300 And they're going to have to reallocate them to New Jersey, to New York.

00:23:57.820 They're going to have to spend money there.

00:23:59.220 I mean, that's not something they've probably budgeted for.

00:24:01.760 That's probably something they would never expect that they needed to do.

00:24:04.820 But we keep the pedal to the metal.

00:24:06.560 We keep doing that.

00:24:07.360 And then the Democrats become weaker in their get-out-to-vote effort in those swing states.

00:24:11.720 So it's like a domino effect.

00:24:13.340 You take one big state that they need to win, you put it in play, you scare them, then they

00:24:19.420 got to deplete resources out of the big states that they would normally be pressing all the

00:24:24.200 time and money in.

00:24:25.360 And it's a domino.

00:24:26.360 So I think, Roger, that a lot of people there from Pennsylvania, I think the New Jersey

00:24:31.280 polling figures scare the Democrats.

00:24:32.820 I think this continues on, and I believe, very confident it will, that the Democrats are then

00:24:38.040 going to have to say, wow, we now have to split time and put manpower in New Jersey.

00:24:41.840 That's going to take away from Pennsylvania.

00:24:43.760 Boom.

00:24:44.220 That now makes Pennsylvania that much more winnable.

00:24:47.660 So it's a great trend.

00:24:49.100 There are people all around the tri-state there.

00:24:51.120 And it was just an amazing, amazing sight to behold.

00:24:54.480 Such a historic day.

00:24:56.200 We have one more clip of the end of President Trump's speech.

00:24:59.420 By the way, many people told me this could have been the greatest speech of his career.

00:25:03.420 I'm not exaggerating.

00:25:05.020 People said he was really, really on his game.

00:25:07.880 Let's take a look at this.

00:25:09.280 The great silent majority is rising like never before.

00:25:13.020 And under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten no longer.

00:25:19.360 We are one movement, one people, one family, and one beautiful, glorious nation under God.

00:25:25.340 And together, we will make America powerful again.

00:25:33.000 We will make America wealthy again.

00:25:37.000 We will make America strong again.

00:25:42.220 We will make America proud again.

00:25:46.480 We will make America safe again.

00:25:50.420 And we will make America great again.

00:25:58.220 God bless you all.

00:26:00.240 Let's win this state.

00:26:01.820 We're going to win it.

00:26:03.000 Thank you.

00:26:03.720 Thank you very much.

00:26:04.900 We love you all.

00:26:08.520 Trump in absolute, complete, rare form.

00:26:11.560 Unbelievable.

00:26:12.640 All right, Mike.

00:26:13.460 Tell folks where they can see you every day because you're one of the hardest working men in conservative media.

00:26:20.420 Where do folks catch Mike Crispy?

00:26:26.220 I appreciate that, Roger.

00:26:28.200 So they can tune in every single day on Rumble.

00:26:31.920 Rumble.com slash LFA TV.

00:26:34.700 LFA TV.

00:26:35.980 The show is called Mike Crispy Unafraid.

00:26:37.900 You search for it on Rumble, you'll see it.

00:26:39.800 We stream live every day at 10 o'clock Eastern.

00:26:41.840 And then Last Call, our brand new late night show powered by Rumble is on Saturday nights at 8 p.m.

00:26:51.100 That is the new time slot.

00:26:53.200 Everyone's been excited about it.

00:26:54.420 It's been getting incredible viewership.

00:26:56.100 It's a late night show, round table, raw, hard hitting.

00:27:00.120 You know, people love it.

00:27:00.980 Roger's been on it.

00:27:01.900 So it's called Last Call on Rumble Saturday night.

00:27:04.780 So, yeah, Roger, really appreciate all the support.

00:27:07.560 It was an amazing rally.

00:27:08.680 Everyone wanted you to be there.

00:27:09.940 Everyone was saying, where is the great Roger Stone?

00:27:12.820 So we know you're working extremely hard, Roger, and just so grateful for everything you have done to be a trailblazer for all the up and comers in the conservative movement.

00:27:22.400 Well, unfortunately, I could not do my 77 WABC radio show yesterday and also be at the rally.

00:27:29.660 It really did in many ways break my heart.

00:27:33.560 But interestingly enough, on my show, I interviewed Mark Caputo, who's the chief political correspondents for The Bulwark.

00:27:42.260 And he had an excellent piece on Trump campaign strategist Tony Fabrizio.

00:27:48.320 And Fabrizio made the case, exactly what you said, Mike, we're expanding the map.

00:27:55.100 Unlike 2020, there are a few states where Trump could win, where he's in range, where the Democrats have already put that in their column.

00:28:05.280 So excellent point that you raised.

00:28:07.780 Thank you to Mike Crispy for joining us.

00:28:11.360 Don't fail to see his great show, Mike Crispy Unafraid, which you can see right here on Rumble.

00:28:18.320 But also Last Call, his great late night show.

00:28:22.380 Mike, thanks for joining us in the Stone Zone.

00:28:26.940 All right, folks, we are we are going to review the political news of the day.

00:28:35.700 Troy, let's kind of go through what we have pulled out to talk to our viewers about.

00:28:42.600 Yeah, Roger, we had some breaking news this weekend about conservative commentator Steve Bannon, which I wanted to ask you about.

00:28:51.080 Bannon's trial was actually postponed in the We Build the Wall scandal, and that was postponed to October.

00:28:58.660 So it was postponed once before.

00:29:00.920 It's now been postponed again.

00:29:02.080 Wanted to get your thoughts and your reaction to that.

00:29:04.340 You know, this is a very difficult question for me.

00:29:07.940 Steve Bannon and I, as you know, have had our differences.

00:29:11.760 He was a surprise witness at my trial testifying for Robert Mueller.

00:29:17.060 And in his sworn testimony, when he was asked whether he'd ever discussed WikiLeaks or Julian Assange or the allegedly stolen DNC and Clinton emails, he said, yes, I spoke to Stone about it.

00:29:35.000 In every conversation we had in 2016, I considered him our access point to WikiLeaks.

00:29:43.000 The problem is that when he was asked the exact same question before the House Intelligence Committee under oath, he said, no, he never discussed the matter with me at all.

00:29:56.460 So candidly, I think in the trial, in my trial, he was not telling the truth.

00:30:03.080 It's called perjury.

00:30:04.160 That said, the Bible teaches us to forgive those who have trespassed against us.

00:30:11.860 And I have done that.

00:30:13.400 Steve Bannon is being victimized.

00:30:16.260 He is being targeted by the exact same people who had targeted me, who targeted General Flynn, who targeted Paul Manafort, and today are targeting Donald Trump.

00:30:27.980 Now, people are somewhat confused.

00:30:32.880 Late last week, Steve Bannon's appeal of his contempt of Congress conviction, where he refused to testify before the January 6th committee was denied.

00:30:46.320 And now, presumably, much like Peter Navarro, he will have a short prison sentence for that infraction.

00:30:56.400 But, as you point out, he still has a trial coming up in New York City, which was scheduled for last October, then rescheduled to this May, now rescheduled to next, this coming October.

00:31:14.940 And the judge in that New York case is Judge Juan Merchant, the judge in Donald Trump's case.

00:31:24.980 I think this is extraordinarily unfair.

00:31:29.260 Judges are supposed to be picked at random selection.

00:31:32.860 How likely is it that Merchant gets not only Trump's case, but also Steve Bannon's case?

00:31:39.460 So, look, I'm praying for Steve, because it's the right thing to do.

00:31:45.480 The Bible tells us to forgive.

00:31:47.620 It doesn't tell us to forget.

00:31:49.440 It tells us to forgive.

00:31:52.840 I think we have covered that subject.

00:31:56.820 Absolutely, Roger, and I thank you for giving your opinion on that.

00:31:59.500 You know, we have another video here.

00:32:01.660 This is a resurfaced clip, Roger, of Stormy Daniels in 2018 talking with Bill Maher,

00:32:07.120 who I know you've been on Bill Maher's show.

00:32:09.620 Your last appearance on that show is one of my favorite because you walk right in, you do your business,

00:32:14.920 and then you walk right out, and you kind of leave him standing there on stage.

00:32:17.700 I thought that was brilliant.

00:32:19.480 But in 2018, here is Stormy Daniels telling Bill Maher that she wasn't coerced by Donald Trump.

00:32:26.600 Let's watch that now.

00:32:28.200 And first I asked her why she had sex with Trump.

00:32:31.000 Listen to that, and then listen to what she says after that, and then we're going to talk about the trial

00:32:35.600 because it's quite invariant of what she said to me in 2018. 0.99

00:32:39.660 Why did you f*** Donald Trump? 0.98

00:32:41.340 I have no idea. 0.98

00:32:45.640 Okay, but you say it's not a Me Too case.

00:32:47.740 It is not a Me Too case.

00:32:48.900 I mean, I wasn't assaulted.

00:32:51.480 I wasn't attacked or raped or coerced or blackmailed.

00:32:55.940 They tried to shove me in the Me Too box to further their own agenda.

00:32:58.920 And first of all, I didn't want any part of that because it's not the truth,

00:33:02.480 and I'm not a victim in that regard.

00:33:05.520 That's not what she's saying now.

00:33:09.220 She's talking about he was bigger and blocking the way.

00:33:12.240 It's all the Me Too buzzwords.

00:33:14.680 She said there was a power imbalance of power for sure.

00:33:19.000 My hands were shaking so hard.

00:33:21.160 She said she blacked out.

00:33:24.280 Blacked out? 1.00

00:33:24.880 She's a porn star. 1.00

00:33:28.420 I don't think sex... 0.99

00:33:29.460 That doesn't mean she's been subjected to the likes of Donald Trump.

00:33:35.540 I might black out, too.

00:33:40.140 Do you really think she blacked out? 0.99

00:33:42.100 I mean, a porn star is used to having sex with people she does not know. 0.98

00:33:45.920 That's the job. 0.99

00:33:46.940 It's kind of like Stormy Bob.

00:33:48.320 Bob Stormy.

00:33:48.940 Look, there's a lot of problems with Stormy Daniels' testimony.

00:33:56.460 I think inviting her to testify in this trial was a mistake.

00:34:01.620 First of all, her lawyer, Keith Davidson, testified earlier in the trial.

00:34:07.540 This past week, we had Bubba Clem, better known on radio as Bubba the Love Sponge, who I think documented the case that Keith Davidson was arrested in an FBI sting as part of a ring that was seeking to extort Hulk Hogan over a sex tape.

00:34:28.280 Hogan, when he was approached by those seeking to blackmail him, went directly to the FBI.

00:34:33.660 It is his contention that Davidson, in order to avoid prosecution himself in the Hogan matter, gave them all of Michael Cohen's emails, first flagged their attention to the transaction with Stormy Daniels, which was a transaction between Michael Cohen and Stormy Daniels, not Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels, and agreed to testify in this trial.

00:35:01.500 The other problem Stormy Daniels clearly has is she's told so many stories in so many different places, some of them under oath, some of them in writing.

00:35:12.940 She has vehemently denied any sexual relationship with Donald Trump.

00:35:17.580 Now, suddenly she's popping up saying, oh, no, I did have one.

00:35:22.040 Here you see that she did not feel coerced.

00:35:24.500 So even if it did happen, it appears to me to have been consensual, although that's really not the point.

00:35:31.180 The real point here is that Mr. Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney whose campaign was funded largely by George Soros and who campaigned on a platform to get Donald Trump, very much like Attorney General Letitia James of New York, has no underlying crime.

00:35:52.340 In other words, these financial transactions within the books of the Trump organization do not hide any underlying crime.

00:36:04.180 The U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New York studied these charges, found no crime.

00:36:11.140 The Federal Election Commission studied these transactions, found no crime.

00:36:15.960 This this this indictment is deeply, deeply flawed.

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00:38:44.140 Welcome back, folks.

00:38:45.480 If you're just tuning in, I'm Roger Stone, and this is The Stone Zone.

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00:39:31.020 All right, Troy Smith, the co-host here at The Stone Zone and the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.news, which is really taking off as the new cutting-edge alternative media website where you can find stories on all kinds of things that you won't find anyone else, joins me again today in the space.

00:39:57.480 I want to get one opinion from you, Troy.

00:40:00.580 I know you track the comments and the movements of Jen Psaki, who is, of course, the former press spokesman for Joe Biden.

00:40:14.000 Last week, she kind of intimated that, well, we don't really know what's going to happen to Trump.

00:40:19.380 I mean, after all, he could die.

00:40:21.820 I thought that that remark was in poor taste.

00:40:26.480 And I think it probably said more about her than it did Donald Trump.

00:40:31.380 Your view?

00:40:32.860 Well, Roger, you know, when you listen, and here's the thing, and I think we've talked about this before.

00:40:38.440 When she reads what's on the teleprompter, that's not her words.

00:40:42.760 And I, you know, I read her book recently, and you can tell when you read the book that it's not her, that's not the same person that we see on the TV reading what I believe is written by Neil Katyal and Andrew Weissman and others.

00:40:57.620 And what we saw there, Roger, was an off-script moment.

00:41:01.480 And in the off-script moments, you see who the real Jen Psaki is and what really, I think, is the emotion of the Biden administration and the Democrats in general.

00:41:11.880 And you saw it there.

00:41:13.380 She's saying, well, maybe he'll die.

00:41:15.340 And that's really what they think.

00:41:17.180 And it's really something that's crossed their mind.

00:41:19.280 And I think as far as their attitude on this issue, look, I know who Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is.

00:41:27.040 We spent a whole show talking about him last week, Roger.

00:41:30.320 But the Biden administration has refused to give RFK Jr. secret service protection, even though his father and his uncle were assassinated.

00:41:39.700 I think that speaks to how they feel about anybody who would question their authority or dare to run against them.

00:41:46.900 So to me, it's very revealing.

00:41:49.560 It's an off-script comment that kind of shows exactly where the intentions of the Democrats really lie.

00:41:56.020 You raise an excellent point.

00:41:59.400 Look, I'm obviously a very strong supporter of President Donald Trump.

00:42:05.180 There are a few issues on which I agree with Robert Kennedy.

00:42:09.320 But his abortion on demand position is a huge turnoff.

00:42:13.580 He's in favor of abortion right up to the moment of birth.

00:42:17.500 His radical views on climate change are deeply disturbing.

00:42:23.420 He actually said people who don't agree with the climate change agenda should be put in prison.

00:42:30.540 He heartily endorsed Joe Biden for president in the last presidential election.

00:42:36.580 He endorsed Hillary Clinton for president in the election before that.

00:42:42.300 He endorsed Barack Obama in the election before that.

00:42:47.760 He is a supporter of the Green New Deal, which we all know what that means.

00:42:52.880 It means higher and higher taxes on the working families of America.

00:42:59.300 So, look, he's extremely articulate.

00:43:02.760 He's very convincing.

00:43:04.820 There are a few areas in which I agree with him.

00:43:09.260 But he is no conservative.

00:43:11.680 And more importantly, he cannot win.

00:43:15.520 I'm not even certain that he will get on enough state ballots to theoretically get 270 electoral votes.

00:43:25.200 It remains to be seen.

00:43:26.700 But at this point, and I think this is the absolute key, the more recent polling shows that those who vote for Kennedy in a three-way race would vote two to one for Trump if Kennedy were not running.

00:43:43.040 So, this is something we're going to keep a very, very close eye on.

00:43:48.620 We had a great show on it last week.

00:43:51.800 I do think that his choice of running mate has been damaging.

00:43:56.240 He picked an uber-wealthy progressive who's vaccinated, who's boosted.

00:44:04.020 So, she clearly doesn't agree with him on, I would say, what is the central issue of his campaign, the safety and effectiveness of vaccinations.

00:44:13.220 She actually said on X, formerly known as Twitter, several days after she was selected for vice president, that she hadn't really realized that there was an illegal immigration problem in the United States, which shows that she's fairly detached.

00:44:31.820 She has plowed a lot of money into the defund the police efforts in California. 1.00

00:44:38.980 One must only presume that Robert Kennedy took her as his running mate because he needed the campaign cash.

00:44:49.420 In other words, by law, she can give to her own campaign, this would be her campaign, without limitation.

00:44:56.400 And that means, or she could give to super PACs that are dedicated to helping get Kennedy on the ballot.

00:45:05.120 This tells me, as I've said on the show before, that his efforts to get on the ballot are not as successful as perhaps he had earlier planned.

00:45:15.760 And when that happens, you throw more money at it in terms of paid petition circulators, more lawyers to review your petitions.

00:45:26.420 Because I can tell you this from my experience with Governor Gary Johnson in 2012, when I bolted the Republican Party because I couldn't stomach the nomination of Mitt Romney, that we successfully got Gary Johnson, former governor of New Mexico, very good man, onto the ballot in 48 states.

00:45:49.560 It was extraordinarily difficult, expensive, arcane, and legally challenging.

00:45:58.580 So it remains to be seen.

00:46:02.320 We've got a few more minutes here.

00:46:03.840 Troy, let's continue on our daily political report.

00:46:09.260 Well, Roger, I think it's important to highlight, you know, I think, and this is something that I would like to ask you about as well.

00:46:15.020 The Biden, they're not really running a campaign, the Biden folks.

00:46:19.120 And I've seen people refer to Robert F. Kennedy as the only real Democrat that's running in this race.

00:46:26.520 And I think maybe there's a point to that in that the Biden people are really doing their best to conceal him.

00:46:32.920 And we see why, you know, increasingly as we go along here.

00:46:35.780 So let's show a clip of President Joe Biden attempting to shake hands with a ghost, nobody, after his Tampa speech recently to show just a comparison.

00:46:45.280 President Trump has a rally with over 100,000 people in New Jersey.

00:46:49.060 Biden shakes hands with literally nothing.

00:46:51.040 Let's show that clip. 0.95

00:46:51.720 Roger, your thoughts?

00:47:08.560 Well, yeah, I just think that the deterioration of Joe Biden is apparent to anybody who is objective.

00:47:15.720 Remember, after the special counsel, Robert Herr, issued his report in which he said that Joe Biden had willfully retained certain classified and top secret documents in violation of the law.

00:47:32.980 He went on to say that Biden should not be prosecuted because of his essentially because of his mental deterioration.

00:47:43.760 Biden's response to that was really, OK, watch me, watch me.

00:47:49.200 Well, we we are watching him.

00:47:51.540 And I think that the trajectory is downhill.

00:47:54.760 I really question whether he is up to the rigors of a presidential campaign, certainly question whether he could go toe to toe in a debate with Donald Trump or whether he will actually ever really agree to do so because he knows Trump would eat him alive.

00:48:13.180 I still believe that there's great apprehension in the Democratic Party about his ability to be reelected.

00:48:20.860 Now, in 2020, they were allowed to hide him in a basement using pandemic, the pandemic over COVID-19 as their excuse for doing so.

00:48:32.660 Absent some pandemic between now and November, which, of course, you never know about, I think they're going to have a very time, a very hard time hiding him,

00:48:42.520 which is why I continue to believe that before the the Democratic National Convention, that there's a high probability that he will be removed as a candidate.

00:48:57.460 Well, and Roger, so you see that chance of that happening actually increasing as we head towards the convention here?

00:49:03.820 Yeah, I really do.

00:49:04.660 But it's all based on his obvious deterioration.

00:49:07.580 I mean, you just saw him shaking hand with a non-existent person.

00:49:12.920 He looks he looks frail.

00:49:15.700 He looks weak.

00:49:17.440 He looks disoriented.

00:49:19.100 He looks confused.

00:49:20.060 I actually I actually feel sorry for him.

00:49:23.980 One of the things that Ronald Reagan understood was that you needed as president to show the American people a vigorous, confident leader so that they would have confidence in the country.

00:49:36.960 It's part of the job.

00:49:38.760 It's an important part of the job.

00:49:41.340 When Reagan was leaving office in one of his final interviews, he was asked by a reporter, do you think that you the fact that you did not come up through politics, that you came to politics and to the presidency from a show business career, from an entertainment career, that you were an actor, hampered your ability to do this job?

00:50:02.800 And he said, I don't know, fellas, I don't see how a guy who wasn't an actor could do this job.

00:50:09.860 By that, he meant that the role in public of the president to the American people is vitally important.

00:50:17.280 If the president looks confident, if he looks strong, if he looks resolute, if it looks like he has a plan for America, then I think that gives the voters and, by the way, consumers and taxpayers confidence.

00:50:30.940 Joe Biden shows no such thing.

00:50:33.780 His is a failed presidency.

00:50:36.660 And I think as we get closer to the convention, there will be more pressure on him to consider stepping aside, not resigning as president.

00:50:48.460 I don't think he will do that because I don't think he wants to lose the leverage to pardon his son or his brother or other members of the Biden crime family, but simply to release his delegates and the convention could work its will.

00:51:07.800 The convention could draft any candidate they wanted.

00:51:10.760 Now, I have said repeatedly that the most popular candidate on the convention floor, the most popular candidate among the delegates, would be Michelle Obama.

00:51:22.180 I've never said Michelle Obama will run for president.

00:51:25.400 What I've predicted is that she will be the Democratic nominee.

00:51:29.100 I don't think she wants to run, but I do think she could be persuaded to run if they can persuade her that she's the strongest potential candidate against Donald Trump.

00:51:42.920 We don't have enough polling yet to tell us whether that's true, but I guarantee you the Democrats have taken more than enough internal polling to determine whether it's true.

00:51:55.460 Well, Roger, I think that's something that we need to look at.

00:51:59.220 And I would also point out that I would expect a lot of protests at the DNC.

00:52:03.680 It's going to be chaos and chaos that I think we've seen historically before.

00:52:08.580 I think this has been, you know, the whole Israel situation is referred to as Biden's Vietnam.

00:52:14.480 What do you think about that comparison?

00:52:16.000 Do you think that it's having a similar effect or is it even bigger?

00:52:19.920 Very, very much so.

00:52:21.220 I see very direct parallels between 1968 and today.

00:52:27.560 The conflict between Israel and Iran, conflict between Israel and Hamas is playing the same role that the Vietnam War played in dividing the Democratic Party.

00:52:40.580 And what you see in Joe Biden is an attempt to have it both ways.

00:52:45.660 Being so naive is to think that they won't use that to restart their nuclear weapons development program or that they will not use that money to subsidize Hamas and Hezbollah for terrorist activities against Israel is at a minimum naive.

00:53:11.720 But I think in this case, but I think in this case, it is purposeful.

00:53:15.260 Lee Smith, who was on this show last week, was also on my WABC radio show, makes the case that this is the Obama policy.

00:53:26.720 Obama wants a balanced Middle Eastern policy in which a strong Iran is promoted, presumably as some kind of counterweight to Israel, which makes no sense at all.

00:53:41.780 It's interesting to me that when the Iranians launched this drone and missile attack two weeks ago against Israel, an attack that got huge media hype, but turned out to kill only one person,

00:53:57.340 that it was not only France, but the United Kingdom, but also Saudi Arabia and Jordan using anti-missile, you know, hardware, anti-missile technology to protect Israel.

00:54:14.780 That in itself is interesting, but you have to wonder, was that entire attack initiated as kabuki theater for the American people to make Biden look strong or to show that Biden is not kowtowing to our traditional ally Israel?

00:54:42.720 All of this, of course, has a lot to do with domestic politics.

00:54:48.060 There are pockets of Muslim American voters in states like Michigan and Minnesota and others who are traditionally Democrats, but clearly now calling the president genocide Joe.

00:55:02.280 Joe may be counting on the fact that the American Jewish vote, which obviously has many divisions.

00:55:09.820 There are many kinds of Jews, conservative Jews, Orthodox Jews, Reform Jews, Secular Jews.

00:55:17.460 You can't really speak of the Jewish people or Jewish Americans in one monolithic group.

00:55:23.540 But as a group, they are traditionally among the most intense Democrat Party voters.

00:55:32.640 So, Trump needs to make inroads among that group.

00:55:38.440 He is doing so by standing with our ally Israel.

00:55:43.220 Joe Biden, I think, endangers his standing in that group.

00:55:47.380 Not that he won't win a majority of it, but this effort to be on both sides of the war, to play it both ways, to threaten to withhold aid to Israel.

00:55:58.760 If Israel defends themselves or if Israel is as aggressive against Hamas as Hamas has been against Israel, you would think that that would hurt Biden among American Jewish voters.

00:56:14.420 But that is not something we have seen so far.

00:56:18.060 This is this is this is there's a lot more to be discussed.

00:56:23.780 This on Thursday, Jason Lyons, one of the foremost experts on the American Jewish vote and the dynamic of Jewish voters in American politics, going to join us right here on the Stone Zone to discuss this very subject.

00:56:42.880 All right, Troy, unfortunately, we are out of time today.

00:56:46.000 I wanted to take a minute to tell you about the great satellite phone, which if the power grid goes down and we have no electricity and your cell phone is worthless, you're going to want one of these satellite phones.

00:56:59.560 But we're going to talk about that tomorrow on the show, among other things.

00:57:04.160 In the meantime, I'm Roger Stone.

00:57:06.520 He's Troy Smith.

00:57:07.780 This has been the Stone Zone.

00:57:09.640 God bless you and Godspeed.

00:57:11.440 A man who's gone through hell, but he's kept going and he's smart and he's strong and people love him.

00:57:20.860 Not everybody, but people love him and respect him.

00:57:23.300 Roger Stone.

00:57:24.360 Where's Roger Stone?

00:57:25.460 Yeah.

00:57:43.420 Thank you.

00:57:44.640 Thank you.

The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - May 13, 2024

Trump Sets Record With Largest Campaign Rally In American History – The StoneZONE w⧸ Roger Stone

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