The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - Trump’s Divine Presidency： Pastor Randy Coggins II on Faith, Family, and Freedom

00:00:00.000 The Stone Zone, with legendary Republican strategist and political icon and pundit, Roger Stone.

00:00:09.800 Stone has served as a senior campaign aide to three Republican presidents.

00:00:14.000 He is a New York Times bestselling author and a longtime friend and advisor of President Donald Trump.

00:00:19.640 As an outspoken libertarian, Stone has appeared on thousands of broadcasts, spoken at countless venues,

00:00:25.040 and lectured before the prestigious Oxford Political Union and the Cambridge Union Society.

00:00:30.660 Due to his four-plus decades in the political and cultural arena, Stone has become a pop culture icon.

00:00:36.000 And now, here's your host, Roger Stone.

00:00:44.280 Welcome, I'm Roger Stone, and yes, you are back in the Stone Zone.

00:00:48.920 Back when I was charged by Robert Mueller in a politically motivated witch hunt and subjected to a Soviet-style show trial,

00:01:00.280 it became apparent to me that I would not get a fair trial in the District of Columbia.

00:01:07.100 The judge not only withheld exculpatory evidence from me, my lawyers specifically asked for the entire unredacted Mueller report,

00:01:19.480 but Judge Amy Berman Jackson said that she would review the report in her chambers

00:01:24.160 and then give the relevant sections of the report to my attorneys.

00:01:28.740 Unfortunately, she failed to include the section of the report that only became public after BuzzFeed sued the Justice Department for the release of the entire document.

00:01:42.960 Even then, we learned that even Robert Mueller could not sugarcoat the fact that he had found no evidence of Russian collusion,

00:01:52.220 WikiLeaks collaboration, or any other crime.

00:01:55.720 But the two-year crucible of fighting the unlimited resources of the federal government,

00:02:04.320 combined with the relentless attacks on me by their fake news media allies, took its toll.

00:02:12.500 A time came when not only the pressure on my wife and me debilitated us financially,

00:02:19.580 we lost our home, our insurance, our savings, my car, even my electric guitar to sell it all to pay for my legal defense.

00:02:31.780 A time came when I hit rock bottom.

00:02:34.800 It became clear to me that I was to be gagged unconstitutionally so that I could not defend myself and to be lynched.

00:02:43.480 The judge might as well have been yet another member of the prosecution.

00:02:47.840 Every single one of her pretrial motions was patently unconstitutional,

00:02:53.940 but she essentially denied me any plausible defense,

00:02:59.260 even though there was more than enough evidence and potential witnesses to prove that there was no online break-in at the Democratic National Committee servers.

00:03:11.420 There was no online hack, but the judge refused to allow us to introduce forensic evidence and expert testimony from Bill Binney,

00:03:21.440 the foremost IT counterterrorism expert within the CIA.

00:03:26.180 I survived this horrific experience and have had several multiple miracles in my life only because I returned to the church.

00:03:37.980 Today, I am redeemed in the blood of the cross.

00:03:42.140 I have been very forthright about my return to the church, but that only makes those on the left attack you.

00:03:50.100 The Washington Monthly, for example, questioned whether my return to God and the confession of my sins was real.

00:04:00.860 To tell you the truth, I don't care what they think.

00:04:04.060 I only care what he thinks.

00:04:06.920 But the man who was responsible for bringing me back to the Lord is a young pastor who then lived in North Florida.

00:04:15.600 I had met Randy Coggins at a book signing several years earlier, and we became reacquainted, talking regularly.

00:04:26.000 But he pounded on me to turn my burden over to the Lord.

00:04:31.740 I listened, but being a hard-nosed political operative, took a while for me to understand what I needed to do.

00:04:39.380 Ultimately, it was Randy Coggins who arranged a meeting for me with Franklin Graham.

00:04:47.280 Franklin Graham was in Boca Raton, Florida, and he was having a revival.

00:04:54.980 It was Randy Coggins who arranged a short meeting with Franklin Graham, who gave me probably the best advice of my entire life.

00:05:02.860 Now, because I'm political, I viewed the meeting as an opportunity to ask Reverend Graham to talk to President Trump about clemency in my case,

00:05:14.020 because it became clear there were no circumstances whatsoever that I would receive a fair trial.

00:05:20.780 It was then that I poured my heart out to Reverend Graham, who said, well, and I asked him specifically if he would talk to the president on my behalf.

00:05:33.740 And he said, well, I'll look into that, but let me give you a much better piece of advice.

00:05:39.500 You should turn your life over to the Lord.

00:05:41.940 Ask Jesus Christ to come into your life, confess your sins, and pledge to sin no more.

00:05:48.220 It has to be sincere, but if you will do that, I've known other men in your position.

00:05:54.240 I guarantee you the Lord will lift you up.

00:05:57.180 The Lord will save you and protect you from your persecutors.

00:06:01.600 And then we went out into this open field where there was, I would say, 2,000 Christians,

00:06:07.760 mostly on lawn chairs, blankets, and this outdoor amphitheater in Boca Raton.

00:06:13.800 And the time came in Franklin Graham's oration.

00:06:20.080 I had watched Billy Graham preach as a very young boy.

00:06:24.260 And while Franklin Graham is not his father, he's a very, very effective apostle for the Lord.

00:06:30.000 He has his own style.

00:06:31.360 And the time came in his oration where he said, I don't care if your problem is drug addiction

00:06:39.820 or alcoholism or gambling addiction or health problems or family problems.

00:06:46.560 There is no problem that cannot be solved by the Lord because Jesus Christ, he said, can do anything.

00:06:53.380 So those who want to live forever in heaven with our heavenly father should stand now, confess their sins, and pledge to sin no more.

00:07:04.300 It was at that moment, without hesitation, without embarrassment, without doubt, that I stood up with 200 to 300 other Christians and I confessed my sins. 0.56

00:07:16.320 And it was that moment that everything in my life changed.

00:07:19.820 Everything.

00:07:20.200 I owe that moment to Randy Coggins, who was relentless in pursuing me to return to the church.

00:07:29.460 I'm very proud to say that my friend Randy Coggins joins me now.

00:07:36.800 Roger, thank you so much for having me.

00:07:38.680 And first of all, it's an absolute honor to be here on the Stone Zone.

00:07:42.800 And you and I have walked a, I would say a powerful road together.

00:07:46.920 And I counted a privilege to call you a friend, a brother in Christ, and your journey back to faith.

00:07:52.100 It was nothing short, as you said, of a divine intervention.

00:07:55.680 And I remember those conversations, the prayers, the moments where seeing you in your living room, being on the road with you on several occasions, being at the courthouse with you in Washington, D.C.

00:08:05.920 And the weight of everything you had been through up to that point and seeing that lift off of you because you allowed Jesus back into the center of your life.

00:08:14.340 And watching you rediscover God's grace was truly inspiring, not just for me, but you have spread this message and spread this story, literally, or across the country and around the world.

00:08:24.700 And it is a testimony, truly, that I've heard you say that no matter where you have been, God's hand is always reaching for us.

00:08:32.000 And, Roger, the way you've used your platform since then to stand boldly, not just for the truth on a political stance, but for the truth and for Christ, it's truly been incredible.

00:08:42.460 So I'm happy to be here.

00:08:44.840 Randy, you come from a long line of pastors.

00:08:48.240 I want to talk about you a little bit today rather than me, but it'll be a mixture.

00:08:51.760 Tell us about your family, your dad, your grandfather, and how there's a great tradition of preaching the Lord's gospel in your family.

00:09:04.860 Yeah, going back to my great-great-grandparents and my great-grandparents and my parents, pastors, leaders, ministers of the gospel, pioneered churches throughout the southeast of the United States of America.

00:09:17.340 My father has traveled literally the world preaching the gospel, and I grew up in a pastor's home, and it was at the age of 13 years old where I felt the call to preach, and I preached my first message on a Sunday night in northeast Georgia at my father's church at the time.

00:09:32.920 And it was at that moment where I knew I wanted to do this the rest of my life, and God had called me to preach his gospel to those that would listen.

00:09:41.300 And so now, fast forward, 30 years old, my wife and I, we've been married now for a little over 10 years together, 12 years.

00:09:48.460 We have four beautiful children, and our ministry here on the campus, Pastor of Seven Springs Church in Lithia Springs, Georgia, and God is doing some incredible things.

00:09:56.840 We have a very diverse church.

00:09:58.300 We're growing.

00:09:59.620 Hundreds upon hundreds of people call our church home every single Sunday morning, and just excited about what God is doing in this season,

00:10:06.840 not just in the church, but outside of the four walls of the church, and within the United States of America, and literally around the world.

00:10:15.300 Randy Coggins is an extraordinarily dynamic preacher in his own right.

00:10:19.800 We're going to show you a video of him preaching right now.

00:10:24.680 God, I don't have the strength to get up.

00:10:27.760 God, I feel like I can't make it anymore.

00:10:30.320 I'm just barely surviving.

00:10:32.420 I'm just barely crying.

00:10:34.240 I'm just barely holding on, and God says, I'm trying to get up, God, but I don't have the strength.

00:10:42.720 I'm pulling on everything I know what to pull on, and God says, don't worry, because I'll be your dad, and I'll pick you up when you can't pick yourself up,

00:10:52.140 and I'll let both feet get on the ground, and I'll hold your hand.

00:10:55.940 Every step of the way, I'll provide provision.

00:10:59.100 Every step of the way, I'll provide healing.

00:11:01.700 Every step, I don't have enough strength by myself, but he has me, and when I fall, he's picking me up, and he's walking with me.

00:11:10.180 But then one day, when my strength is back, I can say, thank you, Jesus, and I can keep walking, and he'll keep walking with me, and talking with me, and saying, you can do this, Randy.

00:11:22.540 You can make it, Randy.

00:11:24.240 You will survive.

00:11:26.200 You will survive.

00:11:26.540 You will survive.

00:11:31.700 Amazing stuff.

00:11:34.800 I'm so impressed with you as an orator, someone who speaks publicly.

00:11:39.320 You have a unique connection with your audience, and I have predicted openly that someday you will be as big as the great Billy Graham, perhaps one of the greatest men of the 20th century.

00:11:51.240 I think you and I agree that we've seen the hand of God very recently in this nation.

00:12:00.160 As you pointed out to me in the Bible, in every great battle, the forces of the Lord are always overwhelmingly outnumbered, but they're also always victorious.

00:12:10.960 And in that, there is a lesson.

00:12:14.800 There were dark days in Donald Trump's attempt to return to the White House, particularly when he was subjected to this horrific lawfare by New York State Attorney General Letitia James.

00:12:28.960 Now, it's interesting, because we learned yesterday, or Sunday, I guess it was, that Letitia James inflated the value of her assets in order to qualify for mortgages to buy a bunch of commercial properties. 0.92

00:12:48.140 That is precisely, of course, what she accused Donald Trump falsely of doing.

00:12:55.820 This is a perfect example to me of God's justice.

00:13:00.280 One of the hardest things about being a good Christian, particularly if you're half Sicilian, as I am, is realizing that vengeance is reserved for the Lord.

00:13:11.300 That the Lord doesn't tell you to forget, but he does tell you to forgive.

00:13:18.440 It's hard.

00:13:19.220 It's very hard.

00:13:20.600 Those who tried to destroy my family, those corrupt prosecutors, several of whom have now been fired by Donald Trump, these people were ruthless.

00:13:31.940 They had no interest in the truth.

00:13:34.920 Going to trial, you were there with me every day.

00:13:37.360 We prayed together every day.

00:13:38.880 I learned the hard way that the Constitution, the rule of law, the facts, the evidence, the truth, none of these things matter when you are targeted by the deep state, when you have a judge who was so epically biased as Judge Amy Berman Jackson.

00:14:01.640 I believe, ironically, or I should say emphatically, that it wasn't just being spared dying in a dank Georgia federal prison, where, unbelievably, they wanted to give me seven to nine years for allegedly lying to Congress under oath in my voluntary testimony about Russian collusion that never really happened.

00:14:31.260 But in a short period of time, my wife, as you know, who loves you and your family, has survived stage four cancer.

00:14:40.940 The doctors initially told her that she should get her affairs in order, that her situation was hopeless.

00:14:48.200 But we learned, but we learned yet again, that all things are possible through Jesus Christ.

00:14:54.320 And we did a deep, deep dive on cancer.

00:14:58.180 Our friends over at The Truth About Cancer helped us enormously.

00:15:05.400 Ty and Charlene Bollinger, she ultimately selected a treatment combination of some Western medicine,

00:15:14.580 but a lot of natural healing, changes in her diet, certain exotic mushrooms, extensive injections, or I should say intravenous vitamin C, vitamin D, B-17.

00:15:31.980 And today, I'm happy to tell you, through the healing power of Jesus Christ, she is now almost four years cancer-free.

00:15:40.480 Anyway, it is nothing short of a miracle.

00:15:44.560 On January 6th, January 5th, I spoke in Washington, D.C. at a legally permitted rally.

00:15:54.120 You were there.

00:15:55.640 And I have no qualms about what I said in my speech.

00:16:00.040 I didn't call for violence or insurrection.

00:16:02.620 I did exercise my First Amendment right to question the outcome of the election.

00:16:10.340 When more people vote in Philadelphia than are registered to vote, it's a pretty good sign that something's wrong.

00:16:17.440 It is absolutely true that after January 6th, I wrote to the president and I suggested that he pardon preemptively everyone who had said that the election wasn't honest.

00:16:31.280 Every Republican member of the House, the Senate, members of his staff, his most prominent supporters, including me, because I foresaw that they would criminalize what is perfectly legally free speech activity, that they would charge people for questioning the election.

00:16:50.800 Now, the left says Roger Stone was trying to get a second pardon for himself for things he did on January 6th.

00:16:59.820 That is, of course, a lie.

00:17:01.880 The letter is been leaked.

00:17:03.760 It's out there.

00:17:05.040 But I turned out to be right, as you know.

00:17:07.260 They attempted to prosecute Donald Trump in connection with January 6th in Washington, D.C.

00:17:15.260 They prosecuted him in Georgia, a case that fell apart.

00:17:19.420 They prosecuted him still, trying to in Arizona.

00:17:24.620 They're prosecuting his supporters in Nevada, all based on this false premise that, one, you have no right to question the outcome of an American election, which, of course, you do.

00:17:37.220 And second of all, that alternative electors are somehow illegal.

00:17:42.740 In 1960, when it was thought, election night, that Vice President Richard Nixon had carried Hawaii, John Kennedy filed a slate of alternative electors because he believed, correctly, that once all the absentee ballots were counted, that he would carry Hawaii.

00:18:03.440 He did.

00:18:05.100 The electors pledged to Nixon were unseated, and those pledged to Kennedy were seated.

00:18:12.400 Nobody charged John Kennedy with any illegality.

00:18:16.420 So the whole notion of a fake elector, that's something made up by Ari Melber and Norm Eisen and Andrew Weissman and the other criminals who were behind the lawfare against President Trump.

00:18:30.780 And then the day after the 22 election, I was visiting Mike Lindell.

00:18:39.300 I was on my way to his studio in Memphis for an interview, and the car I was riding in was broadsided by a man coming through the intersection at 55 miles an hour.

00:18:51.760 The car was T-boned.

00:18:53.400 The car was totaled.

00:18:54.880 The two security guards I was riding with were badly injured, but I walked away from that crash without a scratch.

00:19:03.480 And I immediately fell to my knees, and I praised the Lord because I think Jesus Christ protected me again in that moment.

00:19:11.540 So I've experienced these miracles in my own life, and I only list them because I think it's important for other people who have problems, any kind of problem, to understand that Jesus Christ is capable of anything.

00:19:30.600 A very good friend of mine who lives in Nevada recently learned that his mother had cancer, and like my wife, they told his mother that she needed to get her affairs in order, that there was little chance she could survive.

00:19:46.120 I put her in touch with my wife, who shared her cancer regimen with my friend's mother, and we learned yesterday that based on a new examination and new tests, that her cancer is gone.

00:20:04.980 Now, prayer was an important part of that formula, but it's proof yet again that Jesus Christ can do anything.

00:20:12.960 Randy?

00:20:13.200 Yes, and very true.

00:20:16.520 It says, now unto him who is able to do exceedingly and abundantly above all that we could ever ask or think according to the power that worketh within us.

00:20:24.380 And as believers, I truly believe that the same power that raised Christ Jesus from the dead is the same power that lives on the inside of us.

00:20:32.140 So I go by saying if you have the faith enough to believe it, God has the power enough to do it.

00:20:37.640 And, Roger, you've seen that in your life.

00:20:40.140 Now we've seen that in our nation.

00:20:41.980 And it's all about not giving up and pursuing everything that God has for us during this time.

00:20:48.940 I mean, that's why the role of the evangelical Christians, and I say evangelical, evangelical is not a political word.

00:20:56.240 It is a biblical word.

00:20:58.040 Evangelical Christians is more critical than ever.

00:21:00.540 President Trump's return to the White House is not just about politics.

00:21:05.960 It's about purpose.

00:21:07.500 It's about restoring righteousness, not by a man, but righteousness by God through a man and through a team of people in a nation that has been drifting further and further from biblical values.

00:21:19.860 And we are in a spiritual battle.

00:21:22.480 We saw that in your trial.

00:21:23.820 We saw it through the judge.

00:21:25.080 We saw it through news pundits.

00:21:27.700 We saw it through multiple streams and avenues.

00:21:30.660 We are in a spiritual battle.

00:21:32.620 And Christians, believers, the church, cannot afford to sit on the sidelines.

00:21:37.460 The cure, as I have said this many times in our church, the cure for a divided world is a united church.

00:21:42.820 And every pastor, every believer, every person who calls Jesus their Lord must be engaged, not just praying, but voting and standing for truth, because what happens in these next four years will determine the direction of this country and the world for generations to come.

00:22:00.320 And we're seeing that play out just now two to three weeks after the inauguration.

00:22:03.740 So it's an exciting time to be alive.

00:22:05.960 Let's roll another video of Randy Coggins preaching God's word.

00:22:13.680 God's will is his word.

00:22:18.120 So that means God's truth is what?

00:22:21.500 His word.

00:22:22.660 So if it's not in his word, that means it's not his what?

00:22:27.300 Will.

00:22:31.100 Don't shout me down when I'm preaching good today.

00:22:33.220 If it's not in his word, that means it is not his what?

00:22:38.220 Will.

00:22:39.420 So I want to challenge you today.

00:22:40.800 Many of us have already voted and everything, but I want to challenge you in this season that we're living in, have a mindset of prayer to live your life in a way that reflects God's word.

00:22:53.720 Have your life be an example of what being a Christian actually means.

00:23:00.240 Because listen, this world, this world seeks to divide a church that looks like ours. 0.81

00:23:09.960 Are you hearing me?

00:23:11.360 And I want you to hear my heart.

00:23:12.880 This world seeks, seeks to divide a church that looks like ours. 1.00

00:23:18.260 The enemy cannot stand when unity begins to happen in the house.

00:23:22.400 Why?

00:23:22.660 Because the enemy cannot habitate where unity resides.

00:23:25.500 Randy, I know there's a lot of pastors who think that the church should stay out of politics.

00:23:36.340 And we know that Lyndon Johnson, one of the most corrupt and evil men to ever serve in public office, passed something called the Johnson Rule, which is really designed to stop preachers in the pulpit in Texas while he was running from the Senate from calling out his epic corruption and his slothful lifestyle. 0.57

00:24:00.480 Lyndon Johnson was a sadist. 0.98

00:24:02.480 He was an alcoholic. 1.00

00:24:03.820 He was a pill popper. 1.00

00:24:05.060 He was a notorious womanizer. 1.00

00:24:08.820 He was epically corrupt. 0.99

00:24:11.800 No defense appropriation in the 1950s.

00:24:15.740 No major federal expenditure went through the Senate without a payoff to Lyndon Baines Johnson.

00:24:22.640 And many, many pastors fear that if they speak out, they will be stripped of their tax exemption.

00:24:30.800 But it was my friend, Robin Bullock, the Christian prophet, who told me prior to the election, told me a number of interesting things we'll talk about in a minute, but told me that if pastors did not get behind the word, if pastors did not educate their flock, well, that Donald Trump would lose.

00:24:54.020 Now, statistically, I can tell you that in 2017, roughly 73% of evangelical Christians voted, and they voted overwhelmingly, pardon me, 78%.

00:25:08.220 In 2020, perhaps partially because of the pandemic, but for other reasons, that dropped to only 63%.

00:25:20.680 And then in our most recent election, we bounced back to almost 80% of evangelical Christians voted.

00:25:30.740 And of course, they voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump.

00:25:34.600 What do you say to those pastors who, quote, unquote, don't want to get into politics?

00:25:42.480 You speak truth.

00:25:44.520 You speak truth.

00:25:45.760 The Bible has called us to preach the truth.

00:25:48.920 And what I try to practice and what I try to do is it's not about taking sides.

00:25:54.340 It's about standing for truth.

00:25:56.320 And whatever side is standing for truth is the side you need to stand with.

00:26:01.520 And so when you talk about the sanctity of life, when you talk about so many different areas, so many different areas in the word of God, if it doesn't align with the word of God, you should not support it.

00:26:14.460 And that is just what we call a biblical conviction.

00:26:19.420 And that is what we try to preach.

00:26:21.280 Our church is a very diverse church with a lot of opinions and a lot of people, a lot of different colors and all of that.

00:26:27.720 And we, I practice, we practice just preach the truth and obey what God tells us to obey.

00:26:35.120 Do what God tells us to do and do our best to live that way.

00:26:39.080 And you don't have to make it complicated.

00:26:41.340 You don't have to read off laws.

00:26:42.640 You don't have to do all of these things.

00:26:44.060 You don't even have to call names.

00:26:45.820 All you do is preach the truth.

00:26:48.000 It says the truth shall set you free.

00:26:50.640 And that is what I, that's my advice to pastors and leaders is preach the truth and then let the truth work itself out.

00:26:58.980 As I mentioned earlier, the Christian prophet, Robin Bullock, contacted me roughly four months before the attempt on President Trump's life in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:27:14.840 And he told me that he was concerned because there would be an attempt on the president's life.

00:27:20.420 And I asked him how he knew this, and he said, well, it is foretold in the book of Samuel, Samuel 1 and also 2, the time of two kings.

00:27:32.620 He said Saul, whose kingdom had been stripped from him by the Lord because he disobeyed God, was the illegitimate king.

00:27:42.240 He said that's, that's Joe Biden and David, the good king, that was Donald Trump.

00:27:48.320 Now, Saul tried to kill David three times.

00:27:53.500 He tried to kill him with a javelin, which grazed Christ's ear.

00:28:00.220 And there, he says, is the prophecy of what will be.

00:28:06.340 He said that, that in the end, just as Saul failed to kill David, which would have changed the entire course of history,

00:28:16.400 certainly the course of the church, that this, these attempts would fail.

00:28:22.380 But Robin wondered, you know, how do we let the president know that this is going to happen?

00:28:30.020 He said, should I contact the Secret Service?

00:28:32.540 I said, no, I don't recommend that.

00:28:34.620 I said, first of all, unfortunately, they'll think you're crazy.

00:28:37.600 And secondarily, they'll start investigating you instead of investigating what may happen.

00:28:43.560 And I did not then, for good reason, I think, trust the Secret Service.

00:28:48.260 By the way, they worked for Joe Biden at that time.

00:28:52.040 And we all saw what transpired in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:28:56.600 But for an 18th of an inch, Donald Trump would not be with us.

00:29:02.580 We would not be on the cusp of what we call the golden age, the age of Trump, which will be an age of unprecedented peace, prosperity, justice, security, and law and order.

00:29:16.640 I honestly believe America's greatest days, as Ronald Reagan always said, are ahead of us.

00:29:23.480 But there's just little doubt in my mind that Donald Trump being saved in Butler, Pennsylvania, by an 18th of an inch is an act of God.

00:29:36.180 That was an act of God.

00:29:37.840 But more importantly, Donald Trump understands it as well.

00:29:42.800 For all the many years that I have known him and been active in his political endeavors, pastors have always complained to me that he didn't talk enough about his faith.

00:29:56.120 Now, he was a regular at Norman Vincent Peale's Marble Collegiate Church in New York City.

00:30:04.440 He is a man of faith.

00:30:08.080 It's kind of like Kim Clement predicted.

00:30:10.860 He said he will not be a religious man, but he will be a man who prays.

00:30:17.640 I think that is a perfect description.

00:30:20.500 But in him, as I talk to him now and since Butler, I sense a different serenity.

00:30:28.100 In other words, he's the same confident, hard-charging, highly high-energy, extraordinary stamina person he has always been.

00:30:44.220 He's an optimist, much like Ronald Reagan.

00:30:47.400 But I also sense a new calmness about him.

00:30:51.920 And it's very clear to me that he knows that he was anointed for this job and for this time, and that his life was spared for this moment.

00:31:03.080 He said it in his convention acceptance speech.

00:31:06.640 He said it more eloquently, even more eloquently in his inaugural speech.

00:31:12.980 And I think that today, even though I continue to pray every day for his protection, perhaps because having gone through the crucible that I went through, I understand the epic evil of the people who oppose him.

00:31:29.980 I pray every day for his safety.

00:31:34.800 Randy, your thoughts?

00:31:35.920 I will never forget the moment of that day in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:31:42.880 I was sitting on my couch here in Atlanta, Georgia, watching that particular rally, that particular speech.

00:31:48.520 And there is no doubt in my mind that God's hand was in that moment.

00:31:56.140 What we witnessed in Butler, Pennsylvania with the assassination attempt on President Trump was a moment that shook this country because what I saw was where people from both sides, now their attention has been turned and shifted.

00:32:17.740 And it made something very clear that God was not done with him and God was not done with America.

00:32:28.280 And what happened that day, it should have ended in tragedy, but instead we saw a divine miracle at the bullet that could have changed history by taking President Trump's lives.

00:32:37.960 It was stopped just inches away.

00:32:40.820 And if that is not evidence of divine protection, I don't know what is, because the enemy has always been and is still trying to silence the voice of truth.

00:32:53.720 And whoever's voice that truth comes from, that's up to God.

00:32:58.280 But God has a plan, says this in the scripture, that no weapon formed against it, the voice of truth, no weapon formed against it shall be able to prosper.

00:33:07.140 And we saw in real time that weapon that was formed against the then running for President Trump and now President Trump, it wasn't able to form, it wasn't able to prosper.

00:33:22.580 And so that was a divine intervention moment.

00:33:26.520 And I believe there have been even more, I mean, what happened at Mar-a-Lago on the golf course, that was a divine intervention.

00:33:31.920 All of, and what things that have happened that we don't even know about and would never be talked about, hands, God's hand of protection has been on that man, has been on now our current president, and has been on our nation.

00:33:46.060 And I believe it is for such a time as this.

00:33:47.920 And we cannot argue with that.

00:33:51.820 There has now been established a White House Office of Faith.

00:33:55.680 I think this is a great thing, and Pastor Paula White-Cain is going to head that unit.

00:34:07.160 She's a woman who prayed for me during my tribulation, during my trial.

00:34:15.140 She's a woman I like it very much and admire very much, respect very much.

00:34:21.160 I think she's an excellent choice for this role.

00:34:24.320 So your family goes way back with her.

00:34:27.440 Your reflection on this great appointment.

00:34:31.980 When you speak of strong spiritual voices, you can't speak of strong spiritual voices and not talk about our friend, Pastor Paula White-Cain.

00:34:40.140 I've known Pastor Paula since I was 16 years old.

00:34:43.240 And Roger, you and I both know, when Pastor Paula sets out to do something, there is no getting around that.

00:34:50.100 She is a strong force of faith.

00:34:53.460 And even seeing now some of the comments that are coming out about her and against her, it's not going to faze her.

00:35:01.700 She's going to stand strong as a force of faith.

00:35:04.160 And she has been.

00:35:05.220 This is not.

00:35:05.780 She's stood the test of time.

00:35:06.880 She's been a powerful force for the kingdom.

00:35:10.640 Not a perfect person, but an open person and a willing person that says, God, use me and I'll do what you want me to do.

00:35:17.800 And her appointment to lead the White House of Faith office is, I believe, one of the most strategic decisions that President Trump has made.

00:35:24.060 And I don't believe, at least in my lifetime, we've seen anything like this or an office like this.

00:35:30.120 And she has been for so many years, not just for President Trump personally, but for the kingdom of God as a whole for decades.

00:35:39.800 She's been an unwavering.

00:35:41.960 She has been unwavering in her commitment to seeing a nation that honors God.

00:35:47.420 And she understands the power of prayer herself.

00:35:51.700 She she'll she'll tell you she was a broke Mississippi girl living in the trailer. 1.00

00:35:56.600 And God took her from where she was, sent her around the world to countless thousands and millions and millions of people touched by the gospel of Jesus Christ.

00:36:05.860 And she understands that that was all because of the power of prayer.

00:36:08.940 And now the power of prayer in government and the need for biblical truth to be at the center of our leadership.

00:36:16.080 And and I am excited to see that in this season.

00:36:19.780 And I think about my children, I think about my grandchildren that will that will come later on in the future.

00:36:26.760 And I want them to have a nation and I want them to have a world that has been saturated in prayer and biblical leadership as much as possible.

00:36:35.260 And so I truly believe that under her guidance with the office, with this White House of Faith office, I truly believe we're going to see God move in ways that we haven't seen before.

00:36:44.880 And it is my hope and it is my hope and it is my prayer that not just one group of people, but we will see a unifying of kingdom leaders and believers to see really systemic changes in our world and in our society.

00:37:01.240 And it all was and it all starts from biblical principles and the power of prayer.

00:37:05.040 So I believe we're going to see God move in ways that we haven't seen before.

00:37:08.040 And I'm truly excited to see that.

00:37:10.760 Well, the president has had no more loyal friend and supporter than Pastor Paula White Kane.

00:37:18.240 I used to think politicians were rough and competitive, but they have nothing on pastors.

00:37:24.940 But I'm a strong supporter of hers.

00:37:27.280 I'm glad to see her in this job.

00:37:29.540 Also, Jackson Lane, a young man who worked on evangelical outreach during the campaign, extraordinarily capable young man now named to the White House staff to work with faith leaders.

00:37:47.400 Yet another great appointment by President Donald Trump.

00:37:51.600 We're going to show one more video of Randy Coggins because it's just so good.

00:37:55.340 I can't, I can't, I can't not show it.

00:37:57.120 Let's roll it.

00:37:58.260 God's will is his word.

00:38:02.660 So that means God's truth is what?

00:38:05.900 His word.

00:38:07.080 So if it's not in his word, that means it's not his what?

00:38:11.740 Will.

00:38:15.680 Don't shout me down when I'm preaching good today.

00:38:18.300 If it's not in his word, that means it is not his what?

00:38:22.640 Will.

00:38:23.860 So I want to challenge you today.

00:38:25.140 Many of us have already voted and everything, but I want to challenge you in this season that we're living in, have a mindset of prayer to live your life in a way that reflects God's word.

00:38:38.120 Have your life be an example of what being a Christian actually means.

00:38:44.880 Because listen, this world, this world seeks to divide a church that looks like ours. 0.81

00:38:54.400 Are you hearing me?

00:38:55.800 And I want you to hear my heart.

00:38:57.280 This world seeks, seeks to divide a church that looks like ours. 1.00

00:39:02.680 The enemy cannot stand when unity begins to happen in the house.

00:39:06.820 Why?

00:39:06.980 Because the enemy cannot habitate where unity resides.

00:39:15.380 You know, Randy, as a great fan of both the Reverend Ike and James Brown, I think the only thing you lack there is a cape.

00:39:23.040 And my friend, your cape has been ordered and it is coming.

00:39:28.400 Well, if you if you bought it, I'll wear it.

00:39:30.680 So you and your wife seem to have a child every nine months.

00:39:36.660 I'll congratulate you on that.

00:39:38.760 Your family's going.

00:39:40.100 Tell us about them just for a minute.

00:39:41.520 Yeah, we have four beautiful children from the age of nine, six years old, two, almost three years old, and now one year old.

00:39:52.060 And so it's truly thankful.

00:39:53.320 One son, three girls, three daughters.

00:39:56.200 And so truly thankful for what he's done in my family.

00:39:59.620 My wife, she is a Puerto Rican born and raised in Miami. 0.66

00:40:02.960 And again, as I said earlier, we'll be married 11 years this November together, 13 years this September.

00:40:10.040 And she has been by my side every step of the way concerning ministry and just concerning life.

00:40:15.420 And so I'm truly grateful for my wife and and for my family.

00:40:21.300 And, you know, it's just simply the power even with what I do.

00:40:25.340 If it wasn't for a praying spouse, I wouldn't be able to do what I do.

00:40:30.680 Prayer is just so powerful.

00:40:32.980 And and we pray.

00:40:34.600 I pray over my wife.

00:40:35.580 I pray over my children.

00:40:36.620 I pray over our nation.

00:40:37.700 And and also, I just want to say this on another note.

00:40:41.720 If there's one thing that we cannot stop doing, it is praying.

00:40:47.080 And we have to pray not only for our families, but also for our leaders.

00:40:53.300 And whether we agree at times or whether we don't agree at times, we have to pray for our current president, President Trump's protection.

00:41:00.880 For wisdom and his leadership and for God's favor over our nation and around the world.

00:41:06.320 And not just for him.

00:41:07.160 But we need to be lifting up all of our leaders all the way from the local place to the White House to around the world.

00:41:13.160 Those in the White House, the Congress, every position of influence.

00:41:16.360 And that's why when I say position of influence, that's why your family fathers have a position of influence.

00:41:22.080 Mothers have a position of influence.

00:41:23.700 Teachers have a position of influence.

00:41:25.660 And there's a battle going on in the spirit realm.

00:41:27.740 And prayer is our most powerful weapon.

00:41:30.580 And we need people.

00:41:31.680 We need intercessors, prayer warriors standing in the gap daily, declaring that no attack of the enemy will prevail against our families.

00:41:38.600 We'll prevail against our communities.

00:41:41.200 We'll prevail against our states and our nation.

00:41:45.320 And we'll not prevail against those.

00:41:48.520 That God has positioned for such a time as this.

00:41:51.440 And so I'm grateful for my family because I believe he is that God has positioned us as a family for such a time as this to speak truth in a season where a lot of people are not bold enough to speak truth.

00:42:06.980 And we're doing that in love.

00:42:09.240 And we're doing it the best to our ability.

00:42:12.420 All right, Randy Coggins, the man who brought me back to Jesus Christ, played a crucial role in my redemption.

00:42:23.140 I love you deeply, you and your family.

00:42:25.400 Mrs. Stone sends her regards.

00:42:27.520 You're right.

00:42:28.000 We haven't been together in a long time.

00:42:29.820 It's time for a reunion.

00:42:31.600 God bless you, my friend.

00:42:32.860 It's great to see you.

00:42:34.580 God bless you.

00:42:35.180 Thank you for having me on, Robert.

00:42:36.160 All right, now I'm going to bring in my co-host, Mark Vargas, the editor and publisher of the Illinois Review.

00:42:44.920 We've got a few political matters we want to hit before the end of the show.

00:42:48.660 Mark Vargas, welcome back into the Stone Zone.

00:42:53.220 Roger, it's great to be with you.

00:42:55.200 And it's been a big breaking news day.

00:42:58.200 As you know, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., confirmed by the U.S. Senate.

00:43:04.500 And only Mitch McConnell, Roger, only Mitch McConnell, the lone Republican or so-called Republican, to vote against his nomination.

00:43:15.040 I want to get your thoughts, but we're going to play this quick clip of Robert Kennedy.

00:43:19.400 Donald Trump has said that he would put you in charge of the public health agencies.

00:43:23.460 What exactly does that look like?

00:43:24.700 Well, he's been very specific in what he said.

00:43:28.000 He wants me to do three things.

00:43:30.120 One, clean up the corruption of the agencies, particularly the conflicts of interest that have turned those agencies into captive agencies for the pharmaceutical industry and the food industry, the other industries that they're supposed to be regulating.

00:43:44.340 Number two, to return those agencies to the gold standard science, the empirically-based, evidence-based medicine that they were famous for when I was a kid.

00:43:57.520 And number three, to make America healthy again, to end the chronic disease epidemic.

00:44:02.020 And President Trump has told me that he wants to see measurable concrete results within two years in terms of a measurable diminishment in chronic disease among America's kids.

00:44:14.120 This is truly great news for America.

00:44:25.280 See, I think that the confirmation of RFK means a lot more than just the fact that we're going to have a vigorous effort to make America healthy again.

00:44:36.540 We're going to have a vigorous effort to examine the food that is being given to our families and why there are certain additives in foods in the United States that are not allowed in Europe.

00:44:49.880 Get to the root of why we have a chronic childhood disease epidemic in this country.

00:44:56.100 Get to the root of why we have an obesity epidemic in this country.

00:45:01.040 But I also think it speaks to the larger question of a new political realignment.

00:45:08.780 Republican and Democrat, these are becoming outmoded and outdated terms, as we've learned the hard way.

00:45:15.020 The real division in America is between the globalists who believe in war, they believe in censorship, and they have no intention of keeping big pharma or big food accountable for the decline in America's health, which is undeniable based on all measures and statistics.

00:45:42.400 And then on the other side, you have people of common sense, people who favor peace, people who favor free speech, people who want to examine the drugs and the food being given to our families and the process by which these things are legalized and pushed.

00:46:05.860 And, of course, particularly to clean up the corruption, the idea that Dr. Fauci and his wife were able to make millions and millions of dollars off of the COVID-19 vaccinations that they were pushing.

00:46:20.660 I think we need a reform in the law, so that's no longer possible.

00:46:26.480 Public health officials should not have an interest in the positions they take or in the drugs or vaccinations that they advocate.

00:46:37.440 So I think this is a very important step towards building this new coalition, where you have common sense Democrats like Robert Kennedy, like Tulsi Gabbard, who was a Democrat, then became an Independent, now I'm happy to say a Republican, and, of course, Governor Rob Blagojevich, another example of a common sense Democrat who loves his country.

00:47:05.900 Sadly, the Democrat Party, sadly, the Democrat Party of old, the Democrat Party of John F. Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was an ardent anti-communist.

00:47:15.980 Jack Kennedy believed in an across-the-board tax cut, and he enacted one over the objections of the banks.

00:47:24.720 He was a believer in a silver-backed dollar.

00:47:27.540 He had deep suspicions even then, prior to his murder, about our intelligence agencies and whether the CIA was operating domestically, which is, of course, completely illegal under their charter.

00:47:42.060 So this realignment, I think, is one of the keys to the golden age we're about to enter, where party means less and less, and this division between those who just have common sense and those who are prepared to give up our freedoms.

00:48:00.760 All right, Mark, what else do you have for us?

00:48:02.580 Roger, Cash Patel, earlier today, was voted out of the Senate Judiciary Committee, 12 to 10, with the confirmation of Tulsi Gabbard and Robert Kennedy Jr.

00:48:15.780 The fact that Cash has been voted out of the Judiciary Committee is setting it up for another Senate showdown.

00:48:22.220 It appears that he has the votes as well.

00:48:25.720 Boy, talk about the intelligence community being flipped upside down, having Gabbard as the DNI and Patel as the FBI director.

00:48:34.940 The establishment, guys like Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell, they've got to be shaking in their boots, Roger, now that we're getting closer to putting President Trump's team together.

00:48:44.260 This is, in fact, the Justice League.

00:48:48.740 I mean, Donald Trump has put together an all-star team from Marco Rubio, who's already demonstrating skills as a diplomat, bringing our hostages home.

00:49:02.080 Rick Grinnell, who's done an extraordinary job.

00:49:05.540 This decision to examine the Kennedy Center for the performing arts, which has really turned into a perk for members of Congress, but also constantly churning out the same woke propaganda, not cultural, historical American entertainment, but this cutting-edge craziness that's woke-based.

00:49:34.540 By the way, the Kennedy Center's broke.

00:49:37.980 Where did the money, where did the millions they've been given go?

00:49:42.500 I suggest renaming it the Joseph R. McCarthy Center for the Performing Arts, and I'm glad to see that President Trump and Rick Grinnell, at least temporarily, are going to take control and try to save that institution.

00:49:56.680 Let's see.

00:49:57.680 Let's see.

00:49:58.680 Let's see.

00:49:59.680 You're right about Kash Patel.

00:50:00.680 I do need to comment on that.

00:50:02.680 The idea that Adam Schiff would call Kash Patel a conspiracy theorist, that's a side-splitter.

00:50:10.860 I mean, that's a knee-slapper. 1.00

00:50:12.360 Here's the guy who claimed that he had seen, quote, more than circumstantial evidence of Russian collusion with Donald Trump's campaign, but never produced any of it.

00:50:23.580 And now, when he's pressed, he says, oh, no, we had proof that a high-level Trump campaign official gave polling information to a Russian intelligence asset.

00:50:35.040 This is a bald-faced lie.

00:50:37.860 First of all, as Paul Manafort, the man he's talking about, says in his book, and as confirmed by Trump campaign pollster Tony Fabrizio, the Trump campaign had no proprietary polling information at the time this allegedly took place.

00:50:54.160 So any information that Paul Manafort gave to a man named Konstantin Kalemnik would have been public information you could find on the Internet.

00:51:02.480 Secondarily, Kalemnik is not a Russian intelligence asset.

00:51:08.360 In fact, as the independent journalist Mac Taibbi has indisputably proven, he was a U.S. intelligence asset.

00:51:17.460 He was reporting directly to the American embassy in Kiev, and his name is redacted in the cables they sent back to the State Department to hide his identity because he was an asset for U.S. intelligence.

00:51:32.480 By the way, prior to his involvement in this, he worked for Senator John McCain at the Republican Foreign Institute.

00:51:42.560 John McCain, not exactly a Russian spy.

00:51:46.600 So this is an absurdity.

00:51:49.040 They have nothing else to hang their hat on.

00:51:51.880 But Adam Schiff calling anyone else a conspiracy theorist, it really is laughable.

00:51:58.260 Whether Schiff, I guess Schiff now has a preemptive pardon, and therefore he can't be prosecuted for as many crimes.

00:52:06.160 But what I suggest is that the House Oversight Committee hold field hearings and send a subpoena to Adam Schiff.

00:52:15.400 He can say he's a U.S. senator, but no person is against the law.

00:52:19.820 Remember how many times you said that, Adam?

00:52:21.760 He, by the way, because he has a pardon, he cannot plead the Fifth Amendment in those proceedings.

00:52:29.540 He also can't refuse a congressional subpoena.

00:52:32.960 We saw what happened when Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro did that.

00:52:37.300 And then, of course, I would say if he lies under oath, but what I mean is when he lies under oath, he could be charged with perjury, but charged not in Washington, D.C., where no court will find against any Democrat, but charged in the jurisdiction in which he lies.

00:52:58.740 Adam Schiff must be brought to justice.

00:53:00.660 He's one of the most epic criminals of our time.

00:53:03.100 He had a giant role in my case in which the Mueller prosecutors illegally shared all of my emails with Adam Schiff so he could invent gotcha questions that were still immaterial, which my answers, if they were incorrect, still didn't violate the false statements law because they were immaterial.

00:53:27.620 In other words, they did not hide, willfully hide, any underlying legal activity.

00:53:34.560 Adam Schiff, by view, remains the same.

00:53:37.560 If it's Schiff, flush it.

00:53:39.900 All right, we probably have time for one more political item.

00:53:42.940 Mark, what are you thinking?

00:53:44.560 Roger, a governor, Kamala Harris, a poll, let's throw this up there real quick. 1.00

00:53:49.500 A poll has Kamala Harris leading a California, prospective California governor's race by a country mile, 57 to 9.

00:53:58.220 It almost looks like a Trump DeSantis type poll.

00:54:01.500 But, Roger, after a horrific campaign, she now thinks she can pivot and become governor of California.

00:54:07.080 I think it's outrageous.

00:54:07.800 Well, there's an excellent piece on this in the Wall Street Journal by my good friend Ken Kachigian, who was both a speechwriter and a strategic advisor to Presidents Nixon and Trump.

00:54:20.520 And he points out that in 1962, after his razor-thin loss to John Kennedy, party leaders such as Dwight Eisenhower and former Governor Tom Dewey, the Republican candidate for president in 1944 and 48, and others, persuaded Nixon to run for governor of California to keep his presidential prospects alive.

00:54:45.140 The problem was that Nixon had no interest in being governor of California, and he had no particular knowledge of state issues.

00:54:53.480 His expertise was in federal issues, mostly international affairs.

00:54:58.200 He was still favored to win, but then in the closing days of that campaign, we had the Cuban Missile Crisis.

00:55:05.000 The American people rallied around President John Kennedy.

00:55:07.720 Kennedy made a late trip to California to campaign for the incumbent, Pat Brown, and Nixon lost.

00:55:16.680 I think that Kamala Harris may want to take a little advice from former President Nixon.

00:55:23.540 The other thing that's misleading about that poll is everybody in it was a Democrat.

00:55:27.440 California has this unique system, what they call the jungle primary, in which all candidates of all parties run in one election.

00:55:37.960 There are no primaries, but they run in one election.

00:55:40.840 And then the two top vote-getters face off in a runoff.

00:55:46.360 So that poll, while it may show that she has overwhelming support among Democrats, does not show that she necessarily would have overwhelming support among all voters.

00:55:59.960 There's at least one candidate, Steve Hilton, at Fox.

00:56:05.200 I believe he will be a candidate, a Republican candidate.

00:56:09.000 My good friend Grant Cardone, I think, is seriously thinking about becoming a candidate.

00:56:14.920 There will probably be other Republican candidates.

00:56:19.200 Given President Trump's very strong showing in California, I think it is not, and the impact of the fires and the total mismanagement of them by Gavin Newsom and Mayor Karen Bass, it's not beyond the realm that California could turn red.

00:56:38.040 So that is an excellent item for you to bring up, Mark.

00:56:42.560 We'll be watching it very closely.

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The StoneZONE with Roger Stone - February 13, 2025

Trump’s Divine Presidency： Pastor Randy Coggins II on Faith, Family, and Freedom

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