The Tucker Carlson Show - Gas Prices Skyrocket, Trump Freaks Out & His Powerlessness Is Exposed： The True War Agenda Revealed

00:00:00.000 We don't want to be cynical, but it does sometimes occur that maybe we're talking about the wrong

00:00:05.080 things. We mean that when a big news event happens and everyone in the media is talking about one

00:00:11.560 element of it, and we're usually part of that herd, embarrassingly, you have to ask yourself

00:00:16.700 at a certain point, hmm, could it be that the thing that we're all talking about is not the

00:00:22.440 most important thing? Could it be that we're talking about it or being led into that conversation

00:00:28.140 on purpose? I mean, again, not to be a conspiracy nut or anything, but it's possible that happens.

00:00:35.520 And here's an example ongoing. And that's the Strait of Hormuz. We've done a bunch of different

00:00:40.420 shows on the Strait of Hormuz. Strait of Hormuz is obviously inherently significant. It's the

00:00:43.920 waterway now famously at the eastern end of the Persian Gulf through which a lot of the world's

00:00:48.420 energy flows. Iran has the longest shoreline along that strait. We're all geography experts now.

00:00:54.840 and so now we all know that it's essential to keep that waterway open and then it curves around in

00:01:00.180 the Red Sea along the coast of a country called Yemen which is controlled almost the entire

00:01:05.460 country by a group called the Houthis. People are getting an ongoing education and all this and why

00:01:10.240 is that meaningful? It's meaningful because you can't get oil out of the richest oil-producing

00:01:15.440 region in the world unless you have access through those waterways straight up from who's

00:01:21.180 into the Red Sea. So the ongoing conversation, again, including conversation we participated in,

00:01:28.580 has been about how to open the Strait of Hormuz, how to get that oil through.

00:01:33.440 But if you think about it, is that really the most important question that arises from the Iran

00:01:39.860 war? So a waterway, of course, it is inherently important. On the other hand, that's a problem

00:01:45.100 that you can fix really quickly. If you have a blocked waterway, if one country says you can't

00:01:49.020 come through, or we're going to blow up your tankers, well, you could reach an accommodation

00:01:52.280 with that country, and you could fix that in about 10 minutes if all sides are willing to do it.

00:01:58.960 What's harder to fix is the destruction of energy infrastructure, pipelines,

00:02:06.560 wellheads, but more than anything else, refineries. So a refinery is the plants, the factory,

00:02:13.680 where crude oil pumped out of the ground is turned into products you can actually use.

00:02:19.020 and people may not have an appreciation for how different crude oil is from the refined products

00:02:26.000 made from it. So from crude oil, we get famously gasoline, jet fuel, aka kerosene. We get all the

00:02:35.480 way down to asphalt. We get diesel fuel, and we also get a lot of the precursor elements for

00:02:41.860 fertilizer. So none of those things come directly out of the ground. They are made

00:02:50.240 from this commodity called crude oil, and they're made in things called refineries.

00:02:56.180 So without refineries, you really can't run a society. You cannot run a country on crude oil.

00:03:01.420 There's very little you can do with crude oil, actually. You can't even put it in a diesel motor.

00:03:06.500 And they'll, I mean, they'll run on vegetable oil, but you can't run crude oil. You have to refine it.

00:03:10.240 so refineries are actually the most important link in the chain from drilling to turning on

00:03:20.740 the lights in your house or getting on an airplane or eating food that's grown in the ground

00:03:24.900 and the problem with refineries is there aren't very many of them so there are a lot of oil and

00:03:30.880 gas wells in fact no one really knows the number there are about 70,000 new oil and gas wells

00:03:36.060 drilled every year globally. The U.S. alone has almost a million active oil and gas wells.

00:03:42.400 But refineries, which are absolutely necessary, are a different question. So how many refineries

00:03:47.640 are there globally? On planet Earth right now, we know the answer because it's not a very big

00:03:52.840 number. There are a total of 825 refineries on the planet for a population of 8.3 billion people.

00:04:00.740 825 so that's about one refinery for every 10 million people one refinery for every new york

00:04:06.560 city plus 2 million so when you destroy a refinery that's a big problem because a big

00:04:14.640 refinery is incredibly expensive 25 billion dollars for example very expensive to build

00:04:21.560 and time consuming it can take more than 10 years to build a big refinery so when you destroy one

00:04:27.620 you have an immediate and long-lasting effect in a way that closing a straight does not achieve.

00:04:34.460 It's a big deal to destroy a refinery. And so with that in mind, you have to kind of wonder

00:04:40.060 what's going on with refineries. All of a sudden, they're getting hit by our count. And this may be

00:04:46.880 off. We may be undercounting it. But we think, as of today, seven refineries in the Persian Gulf

00:04:53.600 have been hit, destroyed, damaged, shut down for a while anyway, maybe some long term so far in

00:04:59.920 this war, not even a year old. Seven refineries. So if you're wondering why diesel is 650 nationally

00:05:06.980 and much more expensive than that in other parts of the world, it's because of that. It's hits on

00:05:12.740 refineries and not just in the Persian Gulf, but in Russia, which makes about 7% of the world's

00:05:16.600 diesel fuel, refines it. And so what is that? How exactly is that helping? Even if you're

00:05:24.700 waging a war, would you go after the refined? Would that be your first order of business? 0.98

00:05:29.500 Well, it has been the first order of business in both of those conflicts.

00:05:33.560 So we've got footage, no sound, but just so you can see it, this is from the very early days of

00:05:37.660 the Iran war. This is in early March. And this is the product of an Israeli drone attack

00:05:42.420 on a refinery in Iran. Amazing. So the war breaks out. We're told that this war is an effort to 0.95

00:05:55.660 stop the Iranian nuclear program because they're minutes away from nuking Miami. 0.98

00:06:00.760 And that's what it's about. It's only about that nuclear program, which we're not going to accept. 0.99

00:06:04.940 But if that's true, why do the Israelis, instead of hitting a nuclear facility or 0.62

00:06:09.500 assassinating more nuclear physicists. They've done that in Iran. Why do they hit a refinery? 0.60

00:06:17.460 Hmm. No one has answered that question because almost nobody's asked. Why would the Ukrainian

00:06:23.220 government be hitting Russian refineries right now, which they are? All over Russia,

00:06:28.280 apparently 60% of Russia's refinery capacity has been hit. And we're not exactly sure how much is

00:06:34.100 taken offline permanently or for the short term, but 60% of their capacity has been hit by the 0.99

00:06:42.100 Ukrainians. Why refineries? So that's the first mystery. The second mystery is, why is no one 0.98

00:06:49.120 talking about this? Because the thing about hitting a refinery is that it releases massive,

00:06:56.160 epic amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. Now, for the last couple of years, people have not

00:07:01.880 and talking about CO2 emissions, for the preceding 20 years, every child at every grade in American

00:07:08.640 schools learned that CO2 is a poison and that it is increasing the temperature on the earth

00:07:14.920 and that Florida will soon be underwater and we are destroying the planet every time we emit CO2.

00:07:21.740 All of a sudden, no one's talking about that. And there's nothing that emits CO2 in greater volume

00:07:28.160 that we can think of than blowing up energy infrastructure.

00:07:31.920 The Biden administration's destruction of the Nord Stream pipeline,

00:07:34.980 the natural gas pipeline from east to west, from Russia to Europe,

00:07:37.940 was the largest man-made emission, we think, of CO2 in human history.

00:07:45.240 And yet, no one said a word.

00:07:47.500 So for example, the Sierra Club, which is the best-funded environmental group,

00:07:52.560 climate change organization in the United States,

00:07:55.100 they've got like a $100 million budget,

00:07:56.680 they didn't say a word about the Biden administration blowing up Nord Stream. Well,

00:08:02.080 that's very, very curious if you think about it. They also haven't said a word about the bombs

00:08:08.080 that the United States under Biden and Trump has sent to Israel, 2,000 pound bombs.

00:08:13.720 So how much CO2 does a 2,000 pound bomb emit? Well, we know because academics in London

00:08:19.700 figured it out. They did the math. About three metric tons. How much is that?

00:08:24.960 well it's a lot in fact it's more than three times what the average gas-fired home water heater we

00:08:32.600 look this up emits every year in a residential home now why the comparison between a single 0.96

00:08:38.620 2,000 pound bomb and biden sent like 14,000 of them to israel to eliminate gaza to commit genocide

00:08:44.840 in gaza trump's sending 40,000 of this bomb and lots of other bombs but we're just picking the 0.89

00:08:49.600 2,000-pound bomb. Why compare it to home water heater? Well, because the Sierra Club has issued

00:08:56.140 endless press releases on home water heaters, gas-fired home water heaters, the ones that work

00:09:01.680 well, that are efficient, and has also paid a team of lawyers to make sure you can't have one.

00:09:07.660 And not just gas-fired water heaters, but gas ranges, wood stoves, basically any household

00:09:14.840 appliance that you enjoy that is effective, dryers, washing machines. All of these are

00:09:21.140 threats to the earth, according to the Sierra Club, our largest climate group, because they

00:09:27.680 emit CO2. But for some reason, the Sierra Club is, so far as we could tell, never mentioned the

00:09:33.620 CO2 emissions from munitions, from dropping bombs, or from blowing up refineries. They never

00:09:41.080 mention that now why is that it makes you wonder if the environmental movement the climate change

00:09:49.620 movement which really was kind of the dominant piety of a ruling class for two decades we were

00:09:55.920 very concerned really concerned if you ever had dinner with rich ladies in the past 20 years

00:10:01.960 with a private equity wife you get stuck next to one at dinner she would turn to you doe-eyed at

00:10:05.960 some point and say i'm very concerned about climate we're destroying this planet with our

00:10:10.620 emissions and she would get a little misty they really meant it but all of a sudden there's not

00:10:17.800 a word about the biggest co2 emissions in our lifetimes brought on by this war and the war in

00:10:26.000 ukraine how strange could it be that they never really considered carbon dioxide poison because 0.66

00:10:33.600 of course it's not a poison you breathe it you exhale it all day long it's not a poison and they

00:10:40.280 never really believed it was. Could it be that the real appeal of the climate movement

00:10:47.260 was its effects on the way people live? So if you think about it for a second,

00:10:53.280 what were the climate people telling you you were going to have to do? What were you going to have

00:10:57.200 to give up? How were you going to have to change your life in order to save the planet, which you

00:11:00.980 uniquely had destroyed? Not China, the world's largest emitter of carbon. No, they never mentioned 0.98

00:11:07.920 that. But you, as an American, as a European, as a Westerner, worry you have to give up. Well,

00:11:13.600 for one thing, your mobility, you're going to have to live in a 15-minute city. You couldn't

00:11:16.720 go anywhere. You'd be locked down effectively. But for the good of the planet, assuming you

00:11:21.700 care about the planet, you have to give up meat, of course. You might have to wear a sweater

00:11:28.260 indoors in the wintertime because it's profligate to heat your home to 70, obviously. That's not

00:11:33.840 good for the environment. And you can't have working appliances. You can't have anything

00:11:39.420 that actually gives you comfort at low expense because that's a sin. So instead, you're going

00:11:46.880 to have to have, I don't know, a thermostat that can be controlled from Sierra Club HQ

00:11:52.880 or from your local state capital or at least your city council. You're going to have to give up your

00:11:59.600 autonomy and dial down your standard of living that's what you're going to have to do in order

00:12:04.980 to save the earth it's fascinating when you think about those effects which are by the way wildly

00:12:12.260 unpopular nobody wants to wear a sweater indoors in february no one wants to be cold and hungry

00:12:17.220 in fact for all of human history the two main goals on the mind of every person on the planet

00:12:23.220 was let's not be cold or hungry so it's not like anyone wanted this there's no groundswell of

00:12:28.760 support for being cold and hungry but you were going to have to do that and of course the people

00:12:34.940 in charge and they said this a lot wanted that they wanted that but what's interesting is

00:12:43.240 they're getting it anyway so we're not talking about climate change because famously larry fink

00:12:48.280 the single most powerful businessman in the world the head of black rock deeply embedded in the

00:12:52.800 Ukraine war, profiting from the Ukraine war, of course, dropped his demands for climate change.

00:13:02.440 In other words, the idea was BlackRock's not going to do business with you unless you sign

00:13:05.600 on to the climate agenda. Well, he's dropped that. Why? Maybe because they're getting the same thing

00:13:11.080 from these wars. Because when you destroy refineries, what do you do?

00:13:17.420 Well, you hike the price of diesel and gasoline and jet fuel beyond what most people can pay.

00:13:26.080 And the trajectory is in place now, $6.50 for a gallon of diesel, which is the energy source

00:13:32.820 that gets all of our goods from manufacturer to warehouse to home. Yeah. So you are going to,

00:13:43.160 when you destroy the world's refining capacity achieve the same effect you would if you were to

00:13:51.100 enact plan 2030 or whatever they were calling it to avert climate change exactly the same thing

00:13:59.260 and of course if you adjust people's standard of living down enough what do you get fewer people

00:14:05.420 because either they starve to death and we're facing that possibility very soon in countries

00:14:12.240 around the world, particularly in Africa, that will, needless to say, spark mass migration to

00:14:18.180 the West. There are a billion people in sub-Saharan Africa, and if they go hungry, you think they're

00:14:22.960 going to sit and starve to death? No. They'll be in Los Angeles, obviously, and Frankfurt and

00:14:29.420 Lisbon. So there's that. They starve, or they decide to have fewer kids. So one of the goals

00:14:39.040 of the climate agenda was reducing global population and they just said it i mean they 0.98

00:14:44.580 just said it a lot all the time bill gates hate to blame everything on bill gates that poor autistic 0.72

00:14:50.380 elderly man bill gates being unique among rulers of the universe because he's sort of damaged enough 0.98

00:14:57.420 to say the dark stuff out loud because he clearly doesn't know the difference doesn't know what he's

00:15:02.620 not supposed to say bill gates but all of them have said this we need fewer people jeffrey

00:15:07.520 epstein famously maybe not so famously we're going to read it to you here's part of an exchange that

00:15:12.160 jeffrey epstein had in the now famous epstein docs the ones that have been released are not being

00:15:16.260 hidden by the trump administration and we're quoting this is from 2016 and he's uh in an

00:15:24.340 exchange with jaska bach a cognitive scientist and he says this about climate change maybe climate

00:15:32.140 change is a good way of dealing with overpopulation the earth's forest fire potentially a good thing

00:15:36.860 for the species too many people so many mass executions of the elderly and infirm make sense 0.99

00:15:42.700 is the fundamental fact that everyone dies at some time

00:15:45.720 now Jeffrey Epstein and if you read the Epstein files you know this was basically illiterate so

00:15:51.900 it's not entirely clear what that meant but he's applauding of mass death of course

00:15:59.140 and he's emailing this to a normie someone who probably we haven't checked but probably still

00:16:06.540 as a job and is walking among us as a cognitive, imminent cognitive scientist. And they're talking

00:16:12.740 about fewer people. And by the way, at a certain level, way above the level where you and I live,

00:16:18.240 the people who run countries think in terms of population. If you assess your life, you think

00:16:22.580 in terms of your kids and your job and your wife and how are things going? And am I making enough

00:16:26.600 money to pay for everything? If you're running a country, if you're in charge of a civilization,

00:16:30.680 if you're part of the class of people making big decisions about giant populations, you think in

00:16:35.980 terms of what demographics how many people live here how many people do we need to live here

00:16:41.800 that's the very first question people who run countries ask themselves and their advisors

00:16:47.400 do we have the right number of people so when you see big things happen in the world

00:16:53.200 if a completely pointless war breaks out in eastern europe and they're telling you oh it's

00:16:58.880 about these three oblasts in eastern ukraine no one's ever heard of and we have to take a stand 0.98

00:17:04.300 on principle because churchill is at war with hitler again you can be absolutely dead freaking

00:17:10.980 certain that's not the cause of the war and that's not the reason it's continued for almost five

00:17:15.860 years there's something else going on here something much more important than who controls

00:17:19.720 three oblasts whatever an oblast is because nobody cares actually and you gotta think

00:17:27.140 just watching that maybe one of the reasons for that war is its effect and its effect is to

00:17:36.740 completely depopulate the largest country in europe which is ukraine which has fewer than

00:17:42.760 half the people it had when the war started and will never be ukrainian again ever so a child

00:17:51.140 could have known that going into this if this war continues and if it's a first world war type 0.54

00:17:55.460 standoff, meat grinder, the country with the smaller population is going to lose a sizable

00:18:02.260 chunk of its working age population. You're going to have to change the population. You think people 0.98

00:18:06.260 didn't know that going in? You think NATO and the Biden administration, you think the Trump

00:18:10.600 administration doesn't know that? You think the leadership of the EU doesn't know that? You think

00:18:15.020 the British prime minister doesn't know that? Of course they know that. I mean, they're not geniuses,

00:18:19.720 but they're not entirely stupid. And they think in big terms. That's the point. 0.99

00:18:22.960 so when the western proxy the ukrainian military tries to take out 60 of all of russia's diesel

00:18:34.120 production it's probably not just about russia is it it's about hiking the price of diesel

00:18:41.320 globally which it immediately did of course and that has the effect of imposing the same

00:18:50.540 restrictions they called for in the climate agenda but which were broadly rejected by the

00:18:56.820 population it's like i care about the earth but i can't control my own thermostat i can't have a

00:19:03.060 wood stove i don't have a functioning water heater i don't think so like i don't care that much

00:19:09.760 and the same with the iran war iran can have a nuclear weapon okay yeah it doesn't sound great

00:19:16.340 Iran nuclear weapon they seem bad certainly don't speak English they seem pretty foreign 0.94

00:19:21.000 some weird religion I don't yeah they shouldn't have a nuclear weapon 1.00

00:19:24.120 but at this point how many Americans care if Iran has a nuclear weapon I mean probably don't want 0.94

00:19:30.820 Iran to have a nuclear weapon or anyone to have a nuclear weapon but really as a justification for

00:19:35.900 six dollar and fifty cent a gallon diesel they don't care so what does that tell you six dollar 0.74

00:19:43.860 and 50 cent diesel isn't an ancillary byproduct of this war it's the whole point of the war

00:19:50.060 the point of a system is what it does and that's how you know what's true

00:19:56.600 because i don't doesn't matter what they tell you the justification we're doing this for this reason

00:20:03.220 no watch what they do consider the result it produces if they keep doing it and it keeps

00:20:12.040 producing that same result that result is the point of the exercise you don't need to be a 0.97

00:20:17.020 genius to understand that so when people dumb people like me get up on camera and say oh my 0.95

00:20:24.960 gosh if this continues we're going to have famine in africa and mass migration all sub-saharan 0.93

00:20:30.280 africa is going to move to europe and the united states and canada you think that hasn't occurred

00:20:37.060 to them if this continues the standard of living in the united states is going to plummet

00:20:41.400 people won't be able to afford essentials. They're going to have to stop eating meat.

00:20:47.420 You think they never thought of that before?

00:20:51.080 I mean, at some point, all of us need to just like wake up and ground our understanding of reality

00:20:57.440 in reality itself. Be like your dog. Your dog doesn't understand a word you say, and yet your

00:21:04.760 dog has an amazing track record, most likely, of anticipating what you're going to do. How does

00:21:10.040 that work because by not hearing what you say the dog is restricted to watching what you do

00:21:16.440 and watching what people do is over time a far more reliable indicator of why they're doing it

00:21:25.000 seek motive by understanding people's actions not their words words mislead actions tell the truth

00:21:35.200 and these actions both in ukraine and in iran both in eastern europe and the persian gulf

00:21:42.920 have the same effect which is to lower the standard of living in the west not in china

00:21:48.840 in the west china has gone crazy with refineries and none of them have been blown up 0.94

00:21:53.100 china is producing energy liquefying coal as the germans did during the second world war 0.90

00:22:00.640 because they don't have adequate oil reserves. 0.92

00:22:03.220 So they have a massive gasification program with coal.

00:22:06.600 They have big coal reserves,

00:22:07.780 so they're taking the coal

00:22:08.620 and turning it into liquid fuel,

00:22:11.980 effectively diesel.

00:22:14.120 So China is actually fine.

00:22:16.440 We're not fine.

00:22:17.800 Europe is shafted.

00:22:19.860 It was obvious when this started

00:22:21.600 that was going to happen.

00:22:23.000 They did it anyway.

00:22:24.000 Why did they do it?

00:22:25.140 Don't listen, like your dog,

00:22:26.700 to what they say,

00:22:27.820 assess what they do. 0.77

00:22:28.500 They did it to destroy the standard of living in the United States and Europe, to make way for the Chinese empire. 0.70

00:22:35.520 Obviously, oh, that's crazy. 0.89

00:22:37.360 Is it crazy?

00:22:39.120 Look at what they're doing.

00:22:41.460 By destroying refineries, they are ensuring that the West will be a lot poorer than it is now.

00:22:50.580 And that's not quickly fixable.

00:22:52.400 And they know that.

00:22:54.020 And by they, who are we talking about?

00:22:55.780 well whoever's making the decisions in the ukraine war and it's not putin putin the russians are 0.56

00:23:03.120 responding at this point they're responding to increased aggression from ukraine we ukraine's

00:23:10.100 out of men we don't know the numbers because they're still secret but hundreds and hundreds

00:23:15.080 likely over a million ukrainians have been killed and certainly way over a million have been killed 0.92

00:23:19.400 are wounded so there is no ukrainian fighting force left but they're amping up the aggression

00:23:27.880 what is that and who's making that decision well watch the following clip and you will know so this

00:23:36.440 is donald trump this is just the other day as diesel prices start to climb in the united states

00:23:41.680 and trump whatever his many faults which we catalog pretty extensively understands commodities

00:23:47.560 prices because they're not hard to understand a commodity is really simple it's not you know

00:23:52.580 there's nothing complex about diesel fuel you would want to have to refine it the process is

00:23:56.580 complex but diesel as a commodity is easy to understand it's the liquid that goes inside

00:24:01.700 trucks to keep the global economy going and without it the global economy grinds to a halt

00:24:08.880 literally grinds to a halt so trump gets that and you can check diesel prices on your phone

00:24:13.740 and there's no question he does so his fear from the very beginning of this whole conflict was

00:24:18.440 commodities prices would go up and he's been very focused on the price of brent crude brent crude is

00:24:24.460 one of many markers of global oil prices named after a now defunct oil field in the north sea

00:24:28.760 called the brent oil field but it's kind of the measure that people use it's like the s&p

00:24:33.180 of energy markets you know it's just like a brand name and people check it and the brent crude

00:24:39.140 prices stayed, you know, it's gone over 100, but it's not at 300. So fossil fuel prices or

00:24:47.220 crude oil prices have stayed pretty, I mean, relative to what's happened, they've stayed

00:24:52.520 pretty reasonable. But it's the refined products that people actually use, jet fuel, gasoline,

00:24:59.520 diesel, and fertilizer. Those are the ones you got to start worrying about a lot, and diesel

00:25:04.880 in particular, because unlike jet fuel and fertilizer, they advertise the price of diesel

00:25:10.520 at your local gas station. So you know what it is. So Trump's watching this and it's freaking him

00:25:15.680 out, of course, because he'll be judged. And he knows no matter how many arches he builds or

00:25:20.320 Kennedy centers, he names after himself or whatever kind of sad insanity. He attempts to

00:25:26.160 make sure that he's remembered fondly. If the diesel price gets to eight bucks, like there's

00:25:30.060 no chance you know you will always be remembered as a failure period and he knows that because he's

00:25:36.220 despite appearances not stupid on this level so trump clearly asked advisors like what's going

00:25:44.200 on with diesel and they say well it's really not the middle east that's causing the spike it's the 0.97

00:25:48.140 ukrainians smacking all these russian diesel refineries and it turns out russia is one of

00:25:53.260 the big producers i think number two in the world for diesel and so trump gets so agitated that he

00:25:59.920 says he calls for Zelensky to stop hitting diesel refining. Watch this. Mr. Zelensky has to do one

00:26:07.420 thing. He has to stop knocking out diesel fuel in Russia. Let him go after targets, but not diesel

00:26:14.780 fuel because he's causing a shortage of diesel fuel. This isn't done by the Middle East. This 1.00

00:26:19.800 is done by what's happening with Russia and Ukraine. So we spoke to Mr. Zelensky about it.

00:26:25.080 There are plenty of other targets. Don't hit diesel fuel because that's hurting.

00:26:29.260 That's hurting the world. We don't want him to hit diesel fuel.

00:26:33.220 So that's pretty clear. So that's last Sunday.

00:26:36.940 Trump says that. And that's actually a pretty good thing to say. 1.00

00:26:41.220 Pretty smart thing to say. I mean, he's identified one of the main causes of the problem.

00:26:45.560 Why are diesel prices going up? It's because the Ukrainians are hitting Russian refining. 1.00

00:26:50.380 And he thinks, understandably, that he's in charge.

00:26:54.420 There wouldn't be a Ukrainian nation were it not for the support from the United States, and there certainly wouldn't be a Ukrainian war effort.

00:27:03.000 It's not like the Ukrainian people want it.

00:27:04.940 They are being held hostage by an unelected president who's eliminated civil liberties in the country, banned the biggest Christian denomination, put people in prison for criticizing him. 0.99

00:27:14.160 He's a lunatic and a tyrant. 0.99

00:27:16.760 And why is he continuing? 0.99

00:27:18.120 Well, the only reason it's continuing is because the Trump administration, through its intel agencies, is giving the Ukrainians targeting information. So when they hit a target in Russia, where did that information come from? From their intel agencies? No, from ours.

00:27:33.260 so whatever they tell you the trump administration is allowing this war to continue it's just a fact

00:27:38.580 okay and so trump feels understandably that he can shut it down because this is only happening

00:27:44.740 because he's allowing it to happen and aiding the zelensky government now god knows why he's doing

00:27:48.680 that that's a much deeper question that someone should get to the bottom of i think we know in

00:27:54.300 any case it makes sense that trump would be like okay enough shut it down you're hurting me you're

00:27:59.780 hurting america so that was last sunday here's trump on friday last friday just the other day

00:28:08.000 declaring mission accomplished watch this we have the highest employment that we've ever had in

00:28:14.600 history all of these things are the lowest we have the best poverty rate the lowest poverty rate

00:28:20.320 in the history of our country and people are making more money today than they ever had

00:28:25.520 And we do have something that I'm very proud of. Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. Now, for that, people are going to have to pay some extra gas. I think most people, if they had a vote on lower gas prices or letting Iran have a nuclear weapon, I'd be willing to vote that it would be a massive landslide.

00:28:44.740 people don't want to have iran have a nuclear weapon and you know what they won't and the war

00:28:49.540 is going to end soon and when it ends your gas prices are going to drop to a level that they

00:28:55.340 were before maybe even lower yeah ignore this stuff about iran having a nuclear weapon i mean

00:29:03.400 that's obviously the ramps kind of sad ramblings of an old man nobody cares actually at this point

00:29:08.800 israel having a nuclear weapon israel's threatened to use nuclear weapons against various countries

00:29:13.120 uh a lot and there are no nuclear inspections in israel inspectors have never been to demona

00:29:20.700 so if there's one country on the planet that's breaking international law on nuclear weapons 0.89

00:29:26.880 it's israel of course they're a much greater threat than iran's non-existent nuclear program 0.65

00:29:33.280 and honestly at this point nobody really cares and trump must know that which is why he keeps 0.93

00:29:37.920 repeating it. But it's the first part of that statement that really feels almost poignant in

00:29:43.700 retrospect. So here's Trump just a couple of days after saying, I'm going to tell the Ukrainians to 0.69

00:29:48.600 stop hitting Russian refineries. We're going to get diesel prices down. And he's like, yeah,

00:29:53.300 the economy is great because he feels like he's got it under control. He's working the levers

00:29:57.440 of the global economy. And if diesel prices go really high, well, he's the president of the

00:30:02.380 States. He can bring them down. It's not a magic trick. Just rein in your proxy and we're done.

00:30:10.320 Truly the black pill here, the radicalizing fact, the moment you're like, oh man, I don't know how

00:30:16.940 we fix this, is when you realize it doesn't matter what Trump says because he's not in control. And

00:30:22.920 of course he's not in control. He didn't want to go into this war in the first place. And he was

00:30:26.260 pushed by Benjamin Netanyahu into doing it. So the president doesn't have the power to make

00:30:32.280 independent decisions on certain topics the big topics he doesn't have sovereignty any more than

00:30:37.520 the u.s has sovereignty it's all an illusion but you would at least think that he could reign in 0.78

00:30:41.960 ukraine which is not even a real country the most corrupt country on earth we could at least tell 0.98

00:30:47.620 the midget dictator in charge of that country what to do since we're the only reason he's still alive 0.99

00:30:52.200 but the radicalizing fact and this is just a fact because we know what happened next 0.98

00:30:59.340 is that Trump can't tell him what to do.

00:31:04.420 He just gives Trump the finger and does whatever he wants

00:31:06.440 because he doesn't work for Trump.

00:31:08.380 He doesn't work for the United States despite appearances.

00:31:12.180 And by the way, Trump has apparently no control

00:31:14.140 over his own intel agencies.

00:31:16.060 You think he could haul John Ratcliffe in

00:31:18.120 and the heads of the other 16 intel agencies

00:31:20.040 and say, if you give any targeting information

00:31:22.500 to the Ukrainian military,

00:31:25.080 I'm going to bring you up on charges. 0.99

00:31:27.200 Like you work for me.

00:31:28.060 You weren't elected.

00:31:28.660 I was.

00:31:29.140 That's our system. You have no inherent legitimacy. You're not the president. I am. And I will have you brought up on felony charges, treason charges, if you're caught disobeying the commander in chief in wartime. It's like super simple and legal, by the way.

00:31:48.580 but he didn't do that and because he didn't do that and because he's not actually in charge

00:31:54.480 of anything of substance which may be why he's so focused on renaming the kennedy center at least

00:32:00.140 that's something he can do build some dumb arch at the end of memorial bridge okay build his

00:32:04.820 ballroom but like on questions of global global power apportionment he doesn't get to say and we

00:32:12.240 know he doesn't get to say because this happens here's the bbc news report from like two days

00:32:16.420 later watch with a wave of hundreds of drones and some missiles a message delivered to moscow with

00:32:23.200 fire this oil refinery just 10 miles from the kremlin is the capital's biggest supplying fuel

00:32:31.300 for the city and ukraine says for the russian military too ukrainian officials say the aim

00:32:37.820 is to bring vladimir putin's war home so that in other words a week after trump publicly tells

00:32:47.680 zelensky not to bomb russian refineries because it's spiking diesel prices here in the united

00:32:54.360 states and globally zelensky bombs russian refineries 10 miles from moscow and then the

00:33:02.940 bbc which describes us all in kind of pornographic heavy breathing detail one-handed as they used to

00:33:09.560 say sending a message to vladimir putin like the amount of war pornography the amount of violence

00:33:15.220 worship in the news coverage of these conflicts is repulsive and the people engaging in it needs 1.00

00:33:21.020 psychiatric care immediately because it's disgusting people are dying and you're masturbating 0.99

00:33:25.480 over it which they are it's disgusting beneath contempt but in any case they're telling us 0.93

00:33:31.980 that the ukrainians did this because they're going to tell the russians that there's a cost

00:33:38.020 to what you're doing well of course no sane person thinks that the ukrainian military is going to

00:33:44.320 push the russian military into any kind of surrender or even forced negotiated settlement

00:33:50.540 that's like not going to happen and we know that for a lot of reasons but one is population

00:33:55.860 russia is like 100 million more people than ukraine this is nuts and it's always been nuts 0.93

00:34:02.060 it's never going to work and so what you're going to get is the total destruction of the ukrainian 1.00

00:34:08.560 nation and energy prices that are so high that you get 15 minute cities and people eating bugs

00:34:16.600 and so you have to ask yourself is that the point was that always the point i don't know

00:34:22.720 the purpose of a system is what it does and this system is doing that so yes that's the point

00:34:27.840 there can be no other and if you want to know how totally powerless the president of the united

00:34:35.520 states is and we don't mean to pick on trump who at least had the right instinct on diesel like

00:34:40.100 you're killing us here stop it if you want to know how totally powerless he is watch the cnn panel

00:34:46.520 as they celebrate the Ukrainian government giving the finger to its patron, its supposed patron,

00:34:53.480 the United States. Watch. Ukraine managed its largest drone attack that we've ever seen on

00:34:58.900 Moscow. And it hit a major oil refinery after President Trump had demanded that Ukraine stop

00:35:04.200 hitting Russian oil targets because, of course, it's adding to the price hikes, particularly in

00:35:09.440 diesel fuel in the United States. What do you make of this escalation? What does it tell you

00:35:14.660 about capabilities and where we are in in this war i have a one-word response for the ukrainians 0.98

00:35:24.260 which is congratulations they need to increase these strikes and doing so is the only way

00:35:32.140 they could put pressure on vladimir putin okay so save that tape because that tape tells you

00:35:38.440 everything now who is that guy talking well that is a retired four-star american admiral

00:35:45.620 that was the head of nato under barack obama so who is he speaking for exactly what else does he

00:35:54.840 do who is that man well that man is a partner at the carlisle group that man was the former head

00:36:03.180 of the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy. That man is the current chairman of the board of the

00:36:09.800 Rockefeller Foundation. That man is, in other words, the physical embodiment of the actual

00:36:15.640 rulers of the United States and of the world. And they're not political figures. They're not

00:36:21.000 people who are elected by anybody because that would be democracy and we don't have that.

00:36:25.640 The actual decisions are being made by people with commercial interests in whatever conflict

00:36:30.980 is ongoing, and with a much bigger picture of how this is all going to wind up in the end.

00:36:37.380 The point of this exercise is to dethrone the United States as the ruler of the world,

00:36:45.180 to diminish the United States, to impoverish the United States and Europe, which is kind of an 0.86

00:36:50.860 innocent bystander here, but will be completely destroyed by this, and to make way for the new 0.95

00:36:58.040 era in which we will not be in charge and of course likely china will be so these are the

00:37:05.580 people who are making the decisions and you know that because that guy the former head of nato the

00:37:12.480 four-star admiral the chairman of the board of the rockefeller foundation the carlisle partner

00:37:17.400 is taking ukraine's side zelensky's side over the elected american president so zelensky gives the

00:37:27.440 finger to the president of the united states and the former head of nato the four-star admiral the

00:37:31.920 guy who's like dedicated his life to saving helping defending the united states that guy's

00:37:37.060 like no no i'm with zelensky and he knows because he ran nato that there's literally no chance

00:37:43.300 there's no chance that this tactic or strategy will work you could blow up every refinery in

00:37:51.880 russia you could kill putin there's no chance that russia is going to surrender to ukraine or 0.93

00:37:59.120 anyone else so the best you can do is destroy ukraine and the nations that support ukraine 0.93

00:38:08.500 which include the rest of the west and that ladies and gentlemen is the object of the exercise 0.59

00:38:16.280 it feels like a lot of people know this um it feels like a lot of people who are much

00:38:25.020 smarter than i am for example which would be a lot of people have thought this through from

00:38:29.880 the very beginning and they know that there's no liberation here they can call zelensky churchill

00:38:37.900 all they want but in the end no one's going to be liberated no one's getting sovereignty and

00:38:42.140 freedom. In fact, the direct effect of all of this is death for military-age men and women in the

00:38:52.340 West, the legacy population in the West, not the people who just moved here from some foreign

00:38:57.240 country. They're not signing up, of course. But the people whose ancestors were here 100 years

00:39:01.860 ago, they're going to die, and the ones who survive will be much less free than they were

00:39:07.340 when this all started. Now, how do we know that? That sounds dark. It sounds like some

00:39:12.000 Alex Jones rant. New world order, there's a plan. Well, we've gotten to the point where they just

00:39:18.180 like say it on cable television. And so the only question is, are you listening? This doesn't

00:39:23.300 require any interpretation. You don't need a Rosetta Stone to know what they're saying.

00:39:27.660 You're not hanging on every inflection or nuance here. They're just saying it.

00:39:32.360 so here's a guy called sir jacob rees mogg and we should warn you before this begins that the

00:39:38.940 affect in this guy's voice which we think it's fairly fake is so overwhelming that you think

00:39:44.560 you're watching a cartoon but this is apparently real this guy is a conservative political figure

00:39:49.760 in the uk and he's on television on the conservative station in the uk which is

00:39:54.160 basically like our own conservative station not conservative at all violence worshiping

00:40:00.060 tool of whatever is coming next whatever this new arrangement is going to be

00:40:05.820 that station and this guy are spear carriers for that project obviously there's nothing

00:40:12.080 conservative about it they're not trying to conserve what we have they're trying to usher

00:40:15.940 in the new new thing and the one thing we know about the new new thing whatever it is you're

00:40:20.840 not going to benefit from it and we know that because they're just telling you so here's sir

00:40:25.720 Rupert Jacob Rees-Mogg or whatever we're calling him today watch we may face a war and if we face

00:40:31.720 a war we will need people who will join the armed services and who will go out and do their duty

00:40:37.540 we may even face circumstances where people have to die to save their country as they did in the

00:40:43.600 first and second world wars and in many other wars before and since that is something that makes a

00:40:50.680 country survive if people are not willing to do their duty then the country will be taken over

00:40:56.560 by another country ultimately one way or another this is part of the reason that ancient rome fell

00:41:02.560 remember this is a brit so you think he would know that the last time britain was invaded was almost

00:41:10.300 exactly a thousand years ago it was in fact in 1066 by scandinavians posing as french coming

00:41:17.900 over from Normandy. And they invaded the country and they completely changed it and they do what

00:41:22.460 invading armies do, which they kind of enslaved the population. And then over time, people sort

00:41:26.400 of forgot and they became the aristocracy. And you know the story if you're familiar at all

00:41:29.660 with European history. But the point is, it was a thousand years ago that Britain was last invaded.

00:41:34.380 So the last two wars, the big wars that Britain participated in, the First and Second World War,

00:41:39.540 were not in response to an invasion of Britain. No one was trying to invade Britain.

00:41:45.140 Those were both wars of choice.

00:41:47.780 And what was their effect?

00:41:49.360 Well, their effect was to completely destroy the country, completely. 0.66

00:41:52.100 In 1914, when the First World War began, when Britain joined the First World War, Britain ruled the world.

00:41:59.000 And by 1945, when the Second War ended, Britain was a husk with rationing for the next 10 years.

00:42:05.440 And the prime minister who led Britain through that war, the much-loved in the United States, Winston Churchill, was rejected by voters as a failure.

00:42:13.740 They despised him because they knew what our historians will not admit, which is he destroyed the empire and destroyed their country, and it has never recovered.

00:42:22.340 So the wars that that buffoon cites as necessary were, in fact, the opposite of necessary, if you think war should be waged in defense of a nation for the benefit of the people who live there.

00:42:33.960 And throughout history, people have assumed that's the only reason you have a war, to help the people who live in your country because you're acting on their behalf. 0.95

00:42:40.980 And you're asking them, as the buffoon reminded us, to die for this effort.

00:42:45.340 So if it doesn't help them, that's a lot to ask of anybody. 0.98

00:42:50.000 Go die for something that helps me, something for which I'm not personally willing to die.

00:42:54.800 And my children are not willing to die, but we would like you to go die for this thing 0.96

00:42:58.440 that will not help your surviving relatives at all. 0.63

00:43:01.240 In fact, will wreck our country. 0.80

00:43:03.360 And that's exactly what Britain did in those two wars. 0.77

00:43:06.580 And there's kind of no counter argument.

00:43:08.220 I mean, they'll get huffy and call you names, and you're a hater if you say that.

00:43:12.520 But what about that is not true?

00:43:14.340 It is true.

00:43:15.780 It is true, and it's disgraceful.

00:43:17.440 And the people who defend it are disgraceful.

00:43:19.780 So actually, if you point out something that is true, and you take a position against killing

00:43:25.180 people pointlessly, you are not the criminal.

00:43:28.920 And of course, they try to invert that immediately.

00:43:31.040 Well, you're the bad person.

00:43:32.320 You have hate. 1.00

00:43:32.860 You're hate. 0.98

00:43:34.080 No, I'm against people dying needlessly.

00:43:37.520 I'm against murdering the innocent.

00:43:39.400 I'm not the bad person here.

00:43:41.240 You are.

00:43:42.260 And so it's very important to keep your kind of wits about you and not succumb to moral

00:43:47.040 vertigo.

00:43:48.040 And moral vertigo is, of course, they're only really effective weapon.

00:43:53.620 You're like, wait, you're committing genocide.

00:43:55.260 You're a hater. 1.00

00:43:56.120 Shut up. 1.00

00:43:56.840 And you get censored. 1.00

00:43:57.920 But the people committing genocide, I don't know, get to speak at the UN today.

00:44:02.720 So that's not kind of the way it works.

00:44:06.000 No, the way it works is if you call for the deaths of innocents, you're the bad guy.

00:44:10.480 I'm not the bad guy for calling you out for that.

00:44:12.480 So just remember that if you're watching at home.

00:44:14.200 You are not the bad guy if you oppose sending your nation's young people to pointless death. 0.92

00:44:20.620 You are the good guy and you are facing off against the bad guys and you should put them 0.99

00:44:25.000 on their back foot.

00:44:26.480 There's no way that they should be allowed to continue to call for the pointless deaths

00:44:31.120 of our people and hold the moral high ground.

00:44:35.560 that's outrageous. 0.58

00:44:38.520 What they're calling for is criminal and vile and disgusting 0.82

00:44:42.760 and totally indefensible, and they should be ashamed.

00:44:45.520 You should not be ashamed for opposing it.

00:44:49.520 In any case, they're trying to shame the population of the UK,

00:44:54.440 the legacy population of the UK, people who watch GB News,

00:44:58.560 into dying for a war that has nothing to do with Britain.

00:45:03.860 And of course, Britain is not even controlled by British people.

00:45:06.500 It has no sovereignty.

00:45:07.540 There are American troops on their soil. 0.92

00:45:09.500 The whole thing's a joke.

00:45:12.980 But what's the real agenda?

00:45:16.000 Even Jacob Rees-Mogg, or whatever his name is,

00:45:20.920 probably isn't eager to have a totally pointless war.

00:45:23.580 There's a point to it.

00:45:24.580 There's a reason they want to do this.

00:45:26.220 So we want to play you a clip,

00:45:27.760 and it's part of a colloquy between him

00:45:29.380 and, you would think, his counterpart.

00:45:31.060 So the guy you just saw, Rees-Mogg, is what is known in the UK as a conservative.

00:45:38.300 So he's on one side.

00:45:39.540 Here's a guy called Paul Richards, who's on the completely opposite side.

00:45:43.040 They have nothing in common.

00:45:44.160 They agree on nothing.

00:45:45.780 They're polar opposites locked in this battle of ideas for control of a great democratic nation.

00:45:51.320 Oh, but that's not true.

00:45:52.980 Because as in the United States, both sides are aligned against the population on the questions that really matter.

00:45:58.660 and the question that matters above all because it touches on every other question is the question 0.97

00:46:02.800 of who gets killed war that matters so don't let them distract you with all this other crap

00:46:09.240 what matters is who lives in your country and who gets killed okay let's just start with the things

00:46:14.580 that actually matter and that matters and so on those questions who lives in your country and who

00:46:20.460 gets killed in the uk as in the u.s both sides are in total agreement against the population which

00:46:27.780 wants none of this. They don't want to have a completely different country every generation

00:46:33.320 because of immigration, and they don't want to go fight wars for other nations or commercial

00:46:37.780 interests or whatever. They don't want to die for no reason. They will die in defense of their

00:46:41.800 nation. They don't want to die for any other reason, and that's not bad. You're not an anti-Semite for

00:46:46.160 thinking that, and up yours for suggesting otherwise. Anyway, here's this guy, Paul Richards,

00:46:52.680 the liberal if this were american television facing off against the conservative watch him

00:46:59.000 just sort of say out loud what the point of all of this is this amazing clip watch i think the

00:47:04.560 british would rise to greatness if they had to we would have to lock a few people up by the way some

00:47:08.780 of the pro-russian voices people are saying there isn't a threat don't fight for your country don't

00:47:13.060 go to war for burnham we'll have to lock them up well we suspended habeas corpus during the

00:47:17.480 panonic wars and well and under the defense of the realm as well so you know we would have to 0.97

00:47:21.840 go to those measures and we would have to look at things like conscription as well

00:47:25.060 it's quite a picture okay the very first thing we're going to do you can tell these are like

00:47:31.900 highly informed military tacticians because they don't start with like okay the front in this war

00:47:38.440 is here you know we need to cross the denipper river to do that no no it's the first thing we

00:47:43.140 need to do is imprison anyone who disagrees with us. And then we need to send everyone else's kids

00:47:48.160 to go die because those guys are not obviously participating in a physical sense in this war. 0.95

00:47:53.200 They're not going to go fight. You think Paul Richards is going to go fight it?

00:47:56.800 No. The first thing we need to do, the very first thing we need to do is lock up people

00:48:01.080 who are opposed to this war. And then Jacob Reismogger or whatever his name is, who's posing

00:48:08.620 as like an expert in english history clearly knows nothing about it it's like yeah we did

00:48:13.860 that during the poleonic wars nobody did that during world war ii when the very first thing

00:48:20.580 the british government did was imprison the opposition party called them nazis which they

00:48:25.360 weren't run by one of the great war heroes of the first world war oswald mosley oh he was a nazi

00:48:32.980 no he wasn't if he was a nazi he'd be living in britain in germany he didn't want the war

00:48:39.440 and he has been slandered ever since it's like scary even to defend him i'm not even defending

00:48:46.780 the guy i'm just saying whatever his views in a free society you cannot imprison people for their

00:48:53.520 opinions and when you do how are you better than the people you're fighting so they just did this

00:49:00.460 in their last big war.

00:49:02.000 And not only do they imprison

00:49:02.940 the opposition party, 0.99

00:49:04.080 they sent their wives

00:49:05.060 to prison too. 1.00

00:49:06.320 Why? 1.00

00:49:06.760 What did the wives do? 1.00

00:49:07.740 Oh, they're married 1.00

00:49:08.300 to the guys they didn't like. 1.00

00:49:09.260 That's called blood guilt.

00:49:12.080 That's kind of not what we do

00:49:13.480 in Western civilization.

00:49:14.540 In fact, that's the opposite

00:49:15.800 of Western civilization.

00:49:17.080 In the West, we judge people

00:49:18.240 on the basis of what they do.

00:49:20.400 We punish the guilty.

00:49:21.620 We spare the innocent.

00:49:22.580 We make every effort

00:49:23.180 to spare the innocent.

00:49:23.980 But they stopped doing that

00:49:24.920 in Britain in 1940 0.96

00:49:26.640 and just imprisoned the wives,

00:49:29.540 including pregnant women people died in prison and they were there for the whole war under

00:49:33.980 Churchill Mr. Freedom Fighter guy so yet you just did this in your last big war and you can't wait 0.54

00:49:40.860 to do it again you can't wait to slander anybody who opposes this war as pro-Russia just as you

00:49:46.940 slandered anyone against the last big war as pro-Nazi you're pro-Nazi no just against the war

00:49:54.260 How's that? I don't think it's going to help us. That's pro-Nazi, pro-Russia. But that's their

00:50:02.520 first plan of action, is to put in prison people who disagree with them. Oh, okay. So going back

00:50:11.120 to our plan for understanding reality, that's not a byproduct of the plan. That is the point

00:50:21.060 of the plan the point of the war is to change not iran or russia or whatever they tell no it's to

00:50:28.140 change us it's to change our lives it's to change the way power is apportioned in our society to

00:50:34.140 take it from the population this arrangement we had called democracy and in democracy of course

00:50:39.600 you wouldn't go to war if the population overwhelmingly opposed it because how would

00:50:43.700 that be justified where would the authority for that come from but we do it's not even a question

00:50:49.120 People don't want it.

00:50:49.680 Who cares whether you want it or not?

00:50:52.000 What do you have to do with this? 1.00

00:50:53.160 Shut up. 0.99

00:50:54.280 But now, clearly, the plan is to take it to the next stage where it's like, well, we're 1.00

00:50:59.720 just going to send you off to go die.

00:51:01.540 And by the way, anyone who tells you the conscription in the United States is totally off the table 0.99

00:51:05.520 is lying because it's not off the table at all.

00:51:08.600 Hard to believe it could happen.

00:51:10.380 Honestly, it's hard to believe it could happen.

00:51:12.740 And maybe it won't happen.

00:51:13.960 but they've already put in place the the mechanics to make it happen but in britain

00:51:22.740 they're just like far gone britain is a failed society run by people with no authority no

00:51:28.380 credibility and no legitimacy and they're facing in effect a revolt of their own population which

00:51:34.020 is entirely justified and their answer to it is not to improve the lives of the people they 0.53

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00:53:12.760 Brandon Weikert is one of the most informed people we ever talk to on any topic related

00:53:17.940 to war and statecraft, and he's informed because he pays attention to all the details.

00:53:23.360 And so while the rest of us are doing whatever we do during the day, he's learning more about

00:53:28.680 the facts, the actual facts as they unfold, which is not easy, by the way.

00:53:31.780 If you're trying to track these wars on a factual basis, how many people have died, what's been blown up, how many planes in the air at any given time?

00:53:39.200 It's not that easy to do it because there's just a haze of lying around everything.

00:53:43.460 But he has pierced that haze consistently, and so we're really glad to have him join us again.

00:53:49.300 Brandon, thanks a lot for doing this.

00:53:51.220 Thank you, as always, for having me.

00:53:52.820 It's always an honor to be with you.

00:53:54.300 So it feels to me like the attacks in Eastern Europe and the Gulf on refineries, on energy infrastructure, is a huge and undersold part of the story.

00:54:06.460 How bad have these attacks been? How widespread? Can you give us a picture of what you've seen?

00:54:11.900 Well, anybody who's ever played Jenga, you're sort of pulling the pieces out one at a time and watching the, you know, the tower kind of lean and list.

00:54:23.700 And eventually you pull the one out and then the whole thing comes down.

00:54:27.900 The refineries are sort of the most important block here.

00:54:34.420 And I thought that your monologue laid it out brilliantly.

00:54:37.520 In fact, it sort of already hit a lot of the points I had made.

00:54:40.580 Uh, but, but the point here is, is that, um, we can reopen the Strait of Hormuz and the

00:54:48.140 Strait of Babel Mendeb eventually, um, we can take control of the Panama Canal zone.

00:54:54.880 We can, uh, you know, reassert ourselves around Greenland near the, uh, Greenland, uh, Iceland,

00:55:01.120 UK gap.

00:55:02.100 We can do all of that.

00:55:03.400 And that's fairly straightforward.

00:55:06.000 the refineries are not coming back once they're blown up and it's going to take years now in the

00:55:13.860 United States we have our own problems and I'm kind of want to start there because you already

00:55:18.760 hit on Russia the United States though has a very significant set of issues with the refineries

00:55:26.560 first of all we haven't built new refineries since the late 1970s and one of the reasons we

00:55:32.440 haven't built a new refinery is because of what you mentioned, which was sort of the

00:55:37.700 ecocondria, you know, the panic over global warming and climate change.

00:55:43.040 So we created regulations and we created disincentives for investors to put money in

00:55:51.440 these very important refineries.

00:55:55.200 And so what we have is basically what we've had for about 40 plus years. 0.56

00:55:59.360 Well, really, since the Ayatollahs took over in Iran.

00:56:03.300 So pretty much that same time frame that we've been at war with Iran, we've had the same refineries.

00:56:09.020 Those refineries were designed to process the heavy, sour crude.

00:56:16.320 We hear very often from our leaders, so-called, they love to say we're since, you know, standing on an ocean of oil in North America.

00:56:26.420 And we are.

00:56:27.280 We have a lot of, in many cases, untapped light sweet crude.

00:56:33.540 Our refineries, though, don't process light sweet crude.

00:56:39.020 So we drill baby drill and then we export that stuff to the rest of the world to refineries and people and countries that can refine that.

00:56:50.200 We import a lot of our stuff and heavy, sour crude, so from places like Mexico and, wouldn't you know it, Canada, who we seem to have really aggravated lately.

00:57:04.780 So we bring in a lot of stuff that we don't drill, and we use our refineries to refine that.

00:57:14.280 Somebody explained to me, I co-host Mario Novel's show and we had an oil expert and he said it's

00:57:19.540 sort of like we have caviar for oil and we sell that on the market and then we bring in the

00:57:25.680 quarter pounder with cheese from overseas and we have to process and use that here. So that's one

00:57:32.520 of the biggest problems that we have. There's another issue which is we pretty much max out

00:57:41.400 our refining capacity and we do that because we're a capitalist country and we like to have

00:57:47.400 the short-term profit you know you you max it out you take the money you make off that and you

00:57:53.640 you use that for profit you mentioned china earlier uh china if you'll forgive me again

00:57:59.640 my glasses um china has basically they are the world's largest most advanced refining capacity

00:58:09.480 And they don't even use roughly the percentage I can't find now, but they don't use a, I'm sorry, yes, 30% of their refining is in the teapot refining capability in Shandong province.

00:58:28.480 That capability is heavily sanctioned because those teapot refineries use and process a lot of oil from Russia or from sanctioned countries that we don't like to do business with.

00:58:42.100 But one of the things that China's done is on top of those capabilities, which are numerous, the Chinese have actually built out really new, advanced, sophisticated systems like the Yulong petrochemical complex, which deals a lot.

00:59:00.440 They've really developed some interesting refining capabilities, new techniques for gasoline and diesel, even for plastics.

00:59:07.520 But the key thing here is the Chinese have spare refining capacity, and that is because they want to have a buffer because they anticipated many years ago that there would be a national security crisis in which you could either have an oil shortage globally or you could have sanctions being used and there would be a lack of supply coming in.

00:59:33.040 So the Chinese have excess not only storage with their largest strategic petroleum reserve, which was numbered at 1.8, 1.6 billion barrels before the war began.

00:59:47.380 They've gotten into a little bit of that, but basically they have a lot of reserve, but then they also have reserve capacity.

00:59:55.640 And you rightly noted, knocking out these Russian refineries, I think the percentage was 45% of Russia's refining capacity has been taken offline as of this month.

01:00:08.740 So the Russians are not, almost half of Russia's refining capacity is now offline.

01:00:14.840 The United States is already at capacity.

01:00:17.820 We talk a lot about, you know, the supply issue, but we're not talking about the refining issue.

01:00:26.060 And China has a lot of excess refining capacity. 0.99

01:00:29.460 So we're creating a situation, either purposely or just because stupidity. 0.98

01:00:36.300 The fact is we're creating a situation, Tucker, where China's going to have a lot of cards. 0.99

01:00:42.280 We've seen this play out, and I'll shut up after this, but we've seen this play out with rare earth minerals, right?

01:00:49.500 We always hear, oh, China has rare earth mineral dominance.

01:00:53.060 Well, that's not exactly accurate.

01:00:54.940 What they have is rare earth mineral processing dominance.

01:00:58.900 It's the processing that makes the stuff work.

01:01:02.440 They've got it.

01:01:03.460 they've got about 90 of processing dominance the whole world supply chain relies on it the

01:01:10.260 chinese have replicated that strategy for everything in fact chinese doctrine they talk

01:01:16.020 frequently about controlling not just choke points in terms of you know straits maritime

01:01:22.020 straits and whatnot but they really focus on controlling the geoeconomic hubs of the 21st

01:01:28.580 century so things like rare earth mineral processing or the processing and refinement

01:01:35.300 of crude oil which the world needs and they've got a lot of excess capacity tucker i could foresee

01:01:42.980 if we continue blowing up or allowing the destruction of all these refineries around

01:01:48.820 the world and we can't really build new ones that process the stuff we need here because of 0.99

01:01:54.660 environmentalism or whatever i could foresee that the chinese say hey we've got a lot of excess 0.97

01:02:01.380 capacity you can deal with us and you could have an entire new market arising for heavy or or for

01:02:09.700 crude oil refiner refinement occurring over time in china which then just gives beijing even more

01:02:16.900 leverage and this whole war notably the iran war but also the ukraine war what has it done

01:02:23.940 it has actually knocked down not only the united states which is the key rival for china

01:02:30.500 it's also actually kind of knocked down their other rival russia because russia's having to

01:02:36.420 fixate on europe and fixate all their resources on opposing nato and in turn russia's had to pivot

01:02:43.620 and they're not natural allies with china but now they're bosom buddies the shotgun wedding

01:02:49.300 has now become a true love story between g and putin and that is all because of these western

01:02:55.700 so-called elites uh like larry fink like emerald james stavridis i had a very interesting

01:03:02.340 conversation with him once in 2012 about drugs in afghanistan and it was very and very insightful

01:03:10.260 into the psyche anyway um can you pause right there because he is admiral stavridis is i think

01:03:17.940 one of the key players in all this again he's the chairman of the rockefeller foundation he is was

01:03:24.900 the former dean of the fletcher school he i mean talk about deep state he is a carlisle partner

01:03:30.900 and he was the head of nato so like if there's someone who should be more famous than he is

01:03:34.740 and of course he was commander of u.s forces in afghanistan tell us about your conversation

01:03:39.780 well it was offline and and it was when he was commander and i was at an event in chicago and

01:03:45.140 was the nato conference in chicago and he gave a you know a briefing off off the record briefing but

01:03:51.140 but it was all about the poppy the issue of drugs in afghanistan is just the you know we created

01:03:58.580 that problem i know as always and um there seemed to be kind of we were okay with that it was you

01:04:06.420 know i don't know it just was a very interesting it was yeah it was and that's who you're dealing

01:04:11.860 with and and that's not to you know i don't want to bash the guy because i don't know him because

01:04:16.740 you know he wore the uniform i have a lot of respect for that um but the point here is is that

01:04:21.440 he i believe is part of a cadre dare i say cabal of people government and private sector types

01:04:30.400 who have a certain world view and um i don't know if they would describe it as harming america they

01:04:38.240 probably have convinced themselves it's for the greater good or whatever but their actions are

01:04:43.060 clearly and again i say you know stavridis sort of ran in the same circles as the russiagate crew

01:04:50.140 did um and what's really astounding tucker at since we're on a sidebar here is how the president

01:04:58.080 has empowered the same cabal that tried to take him out in 2016 he is empowered and every chance

01:05:08.220 these guys and gals get to undermine him still they take it as that cnn clip uh highlighted but

01:05:15.600 my point here is is that there there's clearly a policy in place that is um negating our

01:05:24.500 energy dominance that is restricting our ability to process and who benefits from this it isn't

01:05:31.320 the united states it isn't europe it isn't russia it isn't our partners in the middle east

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01:07:21.440 administration had the vice president at the time kamala harris announced at the munich security

01:07:26.760 conference that we're going to push ukraine into nato and that was the moment the war was assured

01:07:32.360 like it was going to happen at that point they pushed this war they wanted this war from that 0.55

01:07:36.920 from that moment i thought everything that has happened since has diminished the united states

01:07:43.400 and strengthened china so you can't tell and almost without almost that exception right so

01:07:49.800 so it's like it's not a conspiracy theory to note that and to say once again that the point of a

01:07:55.320 of a system is what it does right it's obvious to me that knowingly or not they're taking the

01:08:01.680 west out of competition with china and making way for this new age and this new empire and it is a

01:08:08.020 new age because i you know and and to be fair china it's just interesting because i talk a lot

01:08:15.300 with people in china you know there's there's a lot of investors i know there's a lot of people

01:08:21.200 who are very pro they're american very pro capitalist very pro open you know open markets

01:08:27.740 and whatnot and they are always telling me you know the hawks have got china wrong and the one

01:08:33.680 thing i could foresee is that the chinese leaders they don't really like america they don't trust

01:08:39.540 the united states you know the military side the national security side understandably um and i

01:08:45.720 think we should trust their military side but the the chinese leadership it doesn't sound like their

01:08:52.680 play is to actively seek to take over the american empire it's more headache than it's worth but they 0.97

01:08:59.640 absolutely want to undermine our ability to threaten them in their backyard and so they're

01:09:06.200 taking advantage of all of these self-inflicted disasters that we're creating even things like 1.00

01:09:12.920 refineries we don't we don't we haven't built a new refinery in 40 years the chinese are looking 1.00

01:09:17.560 at us going you're stupid we're going to do what we need to do and we'll just outpace you that way 1.00

01:09:22.440 so the whole world depends on us and we'll reorient trade flows that way and you can never 0.99

01:09:27.640 be a threat to us again yeah and i mean there are a lot of participants in this i mean the sierra

01:09:33.480 club says not a word about the carbon emissions from our bombing campaigns it tells you they don't

01:09:37.480 really care about carbon emissions there's another agenda here obviously uh and well and also the

01:09:42.120 tech bros i mean look i i i was in high school when i was a senior i believe when um the the movie uh

01:09:52.280 the the gore movie the uh inconvenient whatever inconvenient truth yeah my i remember it was like

01:09:58.360 20 years ago but i remember they made us my we made us watch the movie as a school as seniors

01:10:04.440 they wanted us to watch it and so i did and i remember thinking this is scary and of course

01:10:10.760 none of it ever happened all of the fear-mongering but you know what it did

01:10:15.980 do it was pushed first of all by a lot of fundraisers from Wall Street and

01:10:21.620 Silicon Valley and it was all about getting people to be so afraid of the

01:10:27.860 weather that they would then invest or purchase or or promote these

01:10:33.880 technologies that um uh were all the broligarchs technologies and now the broligarchs have a new

01:10:43.560 set of technologies a new set of clean energy which is they have ai and therefore they need it

01:10:49.980 they need all the power they can get so you don't hear that much anymore about fossil fuels causing

01:10:56.840 pollution you now have things like nuclear power being promoted finally you now have things like

01:11:02.760 that because we're now moving away from the fear of whatever to where we are now right but both

01:11:11.720 have the same effect which is the loss of sovereignty and freedom and choice for the

01:11:15.960 average person and greater control uh for the group that runs the country which is not not

01:11:21.320 the population obviously um no so in the in the specific case of the ukraine war and that kind of

01:11:27.880 amazing week last week where trump comes out and says you gotta stop bombing russian diesel

01:11:34.960 refineries two days later he's like we won you know the economy's gonna get better the war's

01:11:39.940 almost over and then three days after that the ukrainians just do it anyway who's making that

01:11:45.020 decision um well i think it's the cia i think i think i think that it's very interesting to me

01:11:53.100 that mr trump doesn't pick up the phone and call john ratcliffe and be like wtf what's going on

01:11:59.700 because i'm the president and i specifically publicly said don't do x and then your boy in

01:12:07.580 kiev did x why why did he think he could do that because we know that this ukraine war is being run

01:12:15.720 out of langley partly at least it's being run out of cia and so i don't know if and again this goes

01:12:23.800 back to things like russiagate right like cia is clearly doing whatever the hell it wants you know

01:12:28.820 the cia has its own policy they don't give a darn about who the elected american president is

01:12:35.460 they're going to do what they're going to do all the time period so cia policy is they want to go

01:12:42.240 to war with russia as as i told you before i was at a on a location consulting for the air force

01:12:49.100 in the west coast and i had a two-star general tell me brandon you don't understand we're breaking

01:12:54.780 the russian army in the field for free that's the mentality of those types of people and so

01:13:02.620 they're going to push this the president could literally say don't bomb these refineries and

01:13:09.440 then their guy on the ground is going to do it because the president is not running the agency

01:13:15.440 the agency is running the administration clearly he doesn't seem to be making any major decisions

01:13:21.440 he doesn't seem to have the capacity to make them the power to make them and if you look at his

01:13:26.480 social media posts which are becoming increasingly deranged literally deranged what you see if you

01:13:34.560 calm down and assess it coolly is frustration a guy who can't actually do anything and he's

01:13:42.320 enraged by that and so then he's posturing i'm going to destroy their civilization well no

01:13:46.680 because you know it's not up to you actually that's a very interesting take on that that's

01:13:52.260 interesting well i mean there he's not that crazy he has not been that i mean i've spent a lot of

01:13:58.200 time with him he's he doesn't talk he's never talked like that in private or in public i am

01:14:02.420 surprised that he talks like this because i remember the first term and he i remember he

01:14:07.000 would get allergic to the thought you know of of of a nuclear war or and it's like now he you know i

01:14:13.920 i have been told by certain people uh that the chairman of joint chiefs of staff general kane

01:14:21.900 basically it's like dealing with a toddler he has to kind of jingle the keys in front of the the

01:14:27.740 the toddler to keep him from bringing up the n-word nuclear war that in the last several meetings

01:14:33.580 trump is fixated on the you know nuclear war why can't we use this bomb what's the big deal what

01:14:39.180 that's crazy town to me you should be removed from office immediately for talking that way you can't

01:14:43.900 threaten offensive nuclear war you risk the life of every person on the planet like you're not

01:14:49.580 allowed to do that and he should be removed immediately for talking well this is a question 0.96

01:14:55.260 for certain people in the cabinet why have they not because they're cowards that's why they're 0.97

01:15:02.180 because they're cowards look i i don't i like craziness i grew up around it i'm not bothered 0.96

01:15:06.960 by craziness at all i tend to be a little crazy i have a very wide strike zone on crazy but if you 0.94

01:15:13.520 threaten nuclear war offensive nuclear war against a country doesn't have nuclear weapons but against

01:15:18.520 anybody you are a criminal and you are putting the life of every living thing at risk and you're not

01:15:26.180 allowed to do that and so you're done we're you're done and i that's just the clearest possible thing

01:15:32.460 and he they could take him out and they should immediately take him out the second he talks like

01:15:36.820 that and they won't because they're cowards it's just that simple like what's the other explanation 0.98

01:15:41.080 no i mean they're cowards but they're they're also they're all part of the grift machine right 0.97

01:15:45.580 they're all getting you know so in a way they're all sort of a problem um and congress won't 0.72

01:15:52.000 investigate um and unfortunately it's probably going to take the democrats taking power and

01:15:57.140 they have their own problems uh to to uh as you know uh to really get to the bottom of of what's

01:16:04.060 going on because the bottom line here is um the president has unleashed the dogs of war

01:16:11.260 the dogs of war are now running wild and nobody can rein them back in and now we we live in the

01:16:19.520 nuclear age so that means the dogs of war you know we we could be seeing this happen a nuclear bomb

01:16:26.940 strike um you know either in either front of these wars uh if they're willing to go after the

01:16:33.520 refineries if they're willing to go after the stuff that builds civil society in modern countries

01:16:40.540 tucker um because of you know i don't even know why i mean the ukraine war i can't even remember

01:16:46.940 anymore what we're fighting over the same thing with the iran war nuclear weapons you know the

01:16:51.180 president said a year ago that we blew up the nuclear weapons so what are we still fighting for

01:16:55.500 so the point is if they're willing to do that you know target these these facilities target

01:17:00.700 the infrastructure it's only a matter of time before the powers that be the real powers that

01:17:06.780 be say we're gonna we're gonna take this to the next level because we have to quote win and uh

01:17:12.780 you know i don't know what victory looks like but it's not gonna be pretty i can tell you that much

01:17:17.020 look at the russians um you know the russians are advancing on the eastern front they they are

01:17:23.020 they are decisively moving it is it is slow going but there's clear forward momentum for the russian

01:17:30.220 armed forces and i realize i'm going to get a lot of hate mail for this um they have taken two of

01:17:35.260 of the four big fortress cities in that fortress belt in ukraine they are probably going to take

01:17:41.240 the third one soon they're doing a classic encirclement campaign this is the russian

01:17:45.760 style of war they encircle they seal they use heavy artillery and they crush until there's

01:17:52.140 nothing left and then they walk over and do it again this is this is how they fight this is the

01:17:57.260 war of attrition they are going to take those two remaining fortress cities tucker but i am

01:18:02.940 you know concerned that you will see as that russian force is advancing closer and closer to

01:18:10.020 the final fortress city i could foresee a european nato country allowing their territory to be used

01:18:18.220 to launch attacks on behalf of ukraine against the the the the invading or or advancing however you

01:18:26.220 to describe it russian army and i had the chance recently to talk to a russian uh officer on the

01:18:34.300 marion awful show and i asked this guy so what happens if the forces in the front line start

01:18:39.820 falling under attack from from you know these these nato countries and his response to me was

01:18:45.420 the russian battlefield commanders have been given authorization to protect their forces and they 0.92

01:18:51.580 will protect their forces which means if they are fired upon and it is serious enough from these nato

01:18:57.580 european countries they will retaliate in kind at the the place of origin which means suddenly now

01:19:05.740 you have an advancing russian army in eastern ukraine potentially firing into you know these

01:19:11.340 european countries which you know the europeans are dying i've never seen a group of people want

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01:21:52.980 itself, which is the whole point. And we're already there. This is a murder-suicide,

01:21:56.480 right obviously and um it's a murder suicide i just want to say it's happening against the

01:22:02.760 will of the population nobody wants this and you would think in purportedly democratic countries

01:22:07.760 that would matter it doesn't one mystery of this whole thing is why is israel so aggressively

01:22:13.560 backing ukraine putin has gone out of his way for 25 years to get along with israel never been

01:22:18.800 anti-israel um he's had good relations with various governments in israel including the

01:22:23.580 netanyahu government and yet the israeli government is very much pushing this war why

01:22:29.980 um i think that there's well i think there's a lot of quiet money flow going on um i did a report

01:22:38.540 many moons ago at the national interest when i worked there um and i found that there was um

01:22:45.340 these oligarchs in ukraine that were they were also jewish and they were basically becoming

01:22:51.100 dual citizens and they were essentially taking um the money the foreign aid that the country was

01:22:57.500 receiving they were gaining access to it and then they were stealing it and then they were fleeing 0.52

01:23:02.620 the country before the anti-corruption police could get them because they had they had knowledge

01:23:07.500 for knowledge these raids were going to happen and where did a lot of them end up they ended up

01:23:11.580 in the over the years in israel and of course since the i think it's the right of return the

01:23:16.860 the israelis will not send those people back to be prosecuted even though they are likely guilty

01:23:23.820 of corruption because now they're part of their israeli citizens and israel wants the tax revenue

01:23:31.020 they tax the the money that was stolen they get a lot of money it's it's uh it's a tax scheme so

01:23:37.820 you have a lot of a lot of wealth flowing in from wealthy ukrainians who are also jewish and they're 0.51

01:23:44.940 fleeing the war, they're fleeing the corruption police, and they're ending up in Israel with

01:23:50.180 our money, and they're living large, I mean, as large as you can live in the war zone there 0.84

01:23:56.180 now, but they're living there, and they're protected by the Israelis, partly because 0.81

01:24:00.000 of Israeli tax policy. 0.66

01:24:02.100 The Israelis want that tax revenue constantly coming in.

01:24:05.540 Then you have also, I think there's a bit of a historical grievance.

01:24:12.060 um russia you know there was pogroms against the jews and and all throughout the czar's reign

01:24:19.320 and i think that that has always sort of russia has been viewed by certain hardliners in israel

01:24:27.000 as sort of a a threat or and certainly something to kind of get revenge upon um and i think that

01:24:34.940 you've seen this looking at the support of ukraine sort of in that historical cultural 0.50

01:24:40.620 reference of, hey, we want to avenge ourselves upon this Russian state for what they did to 0.95

01:24:49.300 our grandparents and great-grandparents. And the pogroms were terrible. But I think that's part of 0.94

01:24:54.740 it. And that gets us to the Pale of Settlement, which was the relocation of Jews from Crimea and

01:25:00.820 some of these parts of Ukraine. Incidentally, there are certain people like Victoria Nuland

01:25:06.200 and and the kagan family who apparently they had relatives and i think tony blinken had relatives

01:25:11.960 that were affected by this over the over the centuries but also tucker there's the um issue

01:25:19.360 of russia's support of iran and this is another thing that's very important to understand because

01:25:24.960 it is geopolitics i believe the israelis genuinely believe and if i were living in israel i wouldn't 0.78

01:25:31.360 want a strong Iran either but I'm not an Israeli I'm not I'm an American so but the Israelis are

01:25:37.740 looking over their shoulders saying I don't want a strong Iran and who's one of the number one or

01:25:42.600 number two supporters of Iran it's the Russians and so they view I think the Israelis view covert

01:25:50.360 support for Ukraine and I realized they didn't always help with with air defenses because that's

01:25:55.880 always something I hear well yes of course because the Israelis are going to protect their interests 0.88

01:25:59.900 first but at the end of the day if israel can can weaken russia via ukraine i think the logic in

01:26:07.580 tel aviv is that's less capabilities the russians can give or or less aid the russians can give the

01:26:15.820 iranians as we fight the iranians and i think that's all sort of what's going on there it

01:26:23.260 It makes sense, actually.

01:26:25.060 It does, and there's no anti-Semitism involved in any of this.

01:26:30.660 Right.

01:26:30.960 Well, there usually isn't.

01:26:32.320 Right.

01:26:33.760 I used to say facts don't care about your feelings.

01:26:36.840 That used to be the rule, but it's no longer valid.

01:26:40.160 You know, the people who say that are often the most emotional and irrational.

01:26:45.980 I've noticed.

01:26:47.440 They don't mean it.

01:26:49.000 Last question.

01:26:50.040 how do you since i i know that you're so focused on the war in the persian gulf um every day and

01:26:56.500 you're immersed in the details how do you think it likely ends and when i still think it's probably

01:27:05.360 going to end in a nuclear explosion um that's you know they call me black pill brandon for a reason

01:27:12.080 though tucker so you know not to be not to make light of this but i i am very concerned that we

01:27:18.900 are edging toward you know trump doesn't seem to have his hand on the wheel as you rightly note

01:27:25.380 he's not in control and i don't know if that's all because of israel you know

01:27:30.780 he is the president of the united states he he could i mean look obama said no to israel uh in

01:27:39.060 a big way um so the president really could tell them to f off on some of this stuff but he doesn't

01:27:45.780 Um, and so he is responsible for this and he's in quite a sticky wicket and the president's instinct on this is to double down, which is odd because, you know, originally his instinct was, it's not my fault. I didn't do it. I'm out of here. It's too expensive to maintain it. That was first term Trump. Second term Trump is I'm going to keep doubling down because I'm the big man.

01:28:12.500 Well, the only next thing he could potentially do would be to drop a B61-13 ground-penetrating nuclear device on Pickaxe Mountain.

01:28:23.020 Now, it's not going to really do anything in terms of, like, what does it do?

01:28:26.540 Okay, it knocks out Pickaxe Mountain.

01:28:28.520 Pickaxe Mountain's not even finished being built yet, that facility there, by the way.

01:28:32.860 So, really, it's sort of like he gets his big finish.

01:28:36.540 Now, an Israeli source of mine recently used the phrase, a war in three acts.

01:28:41.220 and that's stuck in my crawl because if you think about it that is what this is shaping up to be

01:28:47.560 the first act was the 12-day war the second act is whatever you call the last six or seven months

01:28:53.920 and there's a kind of a pause going on as everybody kind of reorients themselves to the new normal

01:28:59.900 the third act the finale the final act if we're talking in screenplay terms the big finish would

01:29:06.420 be a mushroom cloud over pickaxe mountain dropped from a B2. And then Trump gets to say, I'm the

01:29:11.660 first president since Harry Truman, drop it. I got my big bang. It was a movie finish and I'm done.

01:29:17.180 Problem with that is once you do that, once you do that, Tucker, Russia and China and every other

01:29:24.460 nuclear power gets a vote and they're not going to be too pleased. And by the way, to be fair to

01:29:30.180 trump it might not and this i talked to anthony aguilar last night and he kind of put this

01:29:36.540 possibility in my head trump might not do a b61 13 he might realize this is a bridge too far

01:29:44.440 but the israelis we just sold them 2.6 billion dollars worth of bombs lots and lots of bombs

01:29:52.780 not nukes they've got their own nukes but a lot of bombs now that's not going to be hitting their

01:29:57.860 their arsenals for many years but the theory is it is possible in the month of october netanyahu's

01:30:05.460 up for an election he's losing right now possibly mr netanyahu needs his next war he's gonna take

01:30:12.560 what he has in terms of weapons and he's gonna fire them or drop them over iran to kick start

01:30:19.720 that war again and then the stuff we sold them will be used to backfill those arsenals over the

01:30:25.700 years and at that point remember what marco rubio our venerable secretary somebody said to me he's

01:30:31.600 the greatest secretary of state and i said secretaries of state are supposed to be diplomats

01:30:36.380 who end wars this guy is like presiding over like 50 different wars so anyway secretary of state

01:30:42.600 rubio three or four days into the war after the the february 28th war he was in congress and he

01:30:48.480 said um he said we had to attack iran when we did how we did because israel was going to attack them

01:30:53.980 regardless in a few days and then we would have been hit by iranian retaliation so we had no

01:30:58.720 choice well i could foresee then if that's the logic here if that happened before past this

01:31:02.900 prologue the israelis might decide to kick off another round the final third act of a three-act

01:31:08.840 war uh by launching a strike airstrikes or something maybe even nukes from a dolphin

01:31:14.560 class submarine off off the uh the the coast of iran which they've got six dolphin class

01:31:19.640 submarines with nuclear tipped cruise missiles um the uh the israelis could kick off something

01:31:25.300 that we get again sucked into i mean it's been you know over 80 years uh since you know the one

01:31:35.440 and only time nuclear weapons were deployed and um that seems like a threshold that once you cross it

01:31:41.660 uh the world is done i mean the voluntary offensive use of nuclear weapons i mean

01:31:47.980 do you think that's been is currently being discussed uh yeah yeah and i think that's one

01:31:54.580 of the reasons why a lot of these generals and emeralds are constantly sort of like i said

01:32:01.980 dangling the keys in front of the two-year-old because he starts talking about it and they're

01:32:05.780 like oh no mr president let's let's you know they're constantly trying somebody said i can't

01:32:10.940 remember now who in the last two days they said that um sort of like they're just giving him

01:32:15.380 enough information to keep him on the path they want him on but this is a guy who you know is

01:32:22.120 going to go his own path no matter what um because i think there is i know there's fear among the

01:32:27.740 retired uniformed officers that i know and i know a lot of top people uh retired retired generals

01:32:34.680 in many cases and whatever you think of them in terms of their politics or whatever i think these

01:32:39.140 people have a good read on what's going on inside the pentagon and they have intimated to me that

01:32:45.500 they're the the uniform military command is very frightened about what might happen with the n-word

01:32:53.260 being used so much do you think they would carry out i mean i would pray that they would not as

01:32:58.220 patriots and christians decent people carry out an offensive use of nuclear weapons like

01:33:05.360 no one's resigned i noticed if it's right right right i mean even cole and powell finally had

01:33:12.720 enough with bush um but um well if it's a b61 particularly b6113 now i want to make it clear

01:33:21.120 and and this is from general randy manner former head of defense threat reduction agency talked to

01:33:26.720 him last night about this and he said look the b6 there's no no tactical nuclear weapon we have

01:33:32.880 is going to be effective against pickaxe that's why they built it there they know our yields they

01:33:37.920 know the g i mean these are very smart people who knew our enemies are smart um they built this

01:33:43.920 thing to survive the kind of attacks they figured we would subject the facility to so one of the

01:33:49.760 things that we have is a b61-13 it's a ground penetrating nuke we have a b61-12 which i believe

01:33:56.560 is an airburst uh nuke and those are kept i think in enserlich um but the b61-13 is very convenient

01:34:02.640 because we keep it in Whiteman Air Force Base, and the B-2s are there, and we can just load them up

01:34:08.180 and fly them. And the thing is, we can dial the yield, okay? It's not like it's one yield, one

01:34:13.540 strike. If we want a little teeny tiny explosion, we can literally dial back the yield on the

01:34:18.760 explosive device, and then you'll have a relatively confined nuclear blast. So in that specific

01:34:26.200 instance, Tucker, the president could give the order, and it's not like he's running through

01:34:31.660 all the the you're not launching intercontinental ballistic missiles they will give the order to the

01:34:36.720 base commander the base commander pulls the nuke out they load it up onto the b2 the b2 takes off

01:34:41.600 and 17 16 hours later it does its thing and uh it's relatively straightforward in that way

01:34:48.640 uh and the argument would be is hey we can control it not a big deal it's just a big bomb basically

01:34:54.240 And I would remind your audience, Elbridge Colby, the Undersecretary of War for Defense or Policy, he is writing the renewed or the new nuclear warfare doctrine, which explicitly lowers the threshold for the deployment of non-strategic nuclear weapons.

01:35:17.620 And why are they doing that?

01:35:19.260 well part of that tucker is because we've blown through all of our conventional munitions or most

01:35:25.440 of them and we thought you we and i we've talked about that before so how do you make up for the

01:35:29.580 gap because the defense industrial base isn't making it up so we have a lot of tactical nukes

01:35:34.800 lying around from the cold war we'll just and some new ones that we're building we'll just

01:35:38.920 bring those to the fore and we'll use those systems now these people can't and i know a lot

01:35:43.660 of these people i do too very well and you too but you know mass psychosis is an interesting thing

01:35:51.000 it's like you lose your capacity to hear yourself so what they would be arguing is because we fear

01:35:57.480 that someday iran might have a nuclear weapon we're going to nuke iran i think they would say

01:36:03.020 it's china it's about signaling to china i think it's actually dark yeah signaling to the world 0.78

01:36:07.800 that it's permitted to use nuclear weapons something that's been verboten for 80 years 0.87

01:36:12.200 so it's like once you lose your nuclear virginity there's no getting it back and you are on

01:36:17.400 inexorably a road to a real nuclear exchange in which everybody dies like obviously this has been

01:36:23.160 known this is intuitive like you don't need to have a grounding in history to know that

01:36:29.660 it's obvious and so even the fact they're discussing it is is grounds for imprisonment

01:36:35.420 as far as i'm concerned well it's certainly grounds to get uh the institutions up and

01:36:40.340 running again that are supposed to actually have oversight here uh this is my bugaboo as somebody

01:36:46.240 who used to work there many years ago uh congress is is not of round apparently apparently we don't

01:36:52.020 have a congress because at the very least we we should be privately calling having friendly

01:36:57.960 senators and congressmen to trump calling him being like hey man you can't do this you you cannot do

01:37:03.940 this uh it's not okay we don't even have that everybody's just like yeah we're gonna do it

01:37:09.280 america so this is where we're at right now um and by the way you mentioned the leadership you

01:37:15.580 know and they they have to know um i don't think we have responsible men and women in power i think

01:37:23.420 this gets back to the epstein class you look at what these people were doing to get power and

01:37:30.520 wealth um they don't have more moral clarity they don't have personal judgment clearly many of them

01:37:37.860 or sociopathic people so you know we used to have leaders who really did worry about what you know

01:37:45.940 what the other side might do that worried about the cost of people i mean we had one of our greatest

01:37:52.340 presidents was dwight d eisenhower who actually did not want to build bullets he wanted to build

01:38:00.500 butter and have more butter than guns because he recognized when you build weapons that's a theft

01:38:07.460 from the american people it does not go into anything productive it just goes into destructive

01:38:13.460 means and so we've had presidents and of course eisenhower saw war and like very few other people

01:38:20.180 did but we've had presidents who had that capability we don't have people today because

01:38:26.260 we don't have a moral country we have a we have a pagan country uh we have a post-western country

01:38:32.260 i mean people keep saying we're a western civilization i don't believe that i don't

01:38:36.500 think there's anything about us anymore except maybe the language that's really western so

01:38:42.660 that's why you have people in the west it's all the western countries by the way it's the europeans 0.94

01:38:48.980 it's the brits it's it's the americans we're the ones acting like crazy people the russians are in

01:38:55.700 ukraine but you know putin could have could have nuked ukraine putin could have flattened the 0.95

01:39:02.020 western side of ukraine instead he keeps bleeding russians because he doesn't want to escalate

01:39:08.180 beyond where it is okay xi jinping so i changed my assessment uh you know at the uh right after

01:39:15.540 the war began in iran and i saw what was going on for years i was convinced yeah probably they're

01:39:19.860 right in the air force 2027 he's gonna try something with taiwan i don't believe that i

01:39:25.140 said back in june i was writing about this i actually think xi jinping watched the russian

01:39:30.740 experience in ukraine he watched the american experience in the middle east he goes i don't

01:39:34.820 want that i can get taiwan um you know through peaceful means i can reabsorb them through trade

01:39:42.900 and economy on a 50-year cycle i can do that so he's i don't think i think the and that just tells

01:39:49.060 me something the leaders of these countries that we're at war with tend to be apparently more

01:39:54.500 restrained than the american and european leaders and i don't say that because i'm happy about it

01:39:59.700 I'm very worried about this.

01:40:02.580 I mean, after watching, you know, the president of the United States threaten the use of nuclear weapons against a country that doesn't have nuclear weapons because he doesn't want them.

01:40:13.240 It's all so crazy that you can imagine normal Taiwanese saying, why would we want to be aligned with that?

01:40:20.420 You know, people, by the way, the powerful force in any conflict is the one who restores order and peace. 0.88

01:40:27.680 it's not the person who postures by the way that's dad dad comes home and stops the fighting 1.00

01:40:33.200 and so of course china doesn't need to invade taiwan it's also stupid it's stupid it's it's 1.00

01:40:42.020 stupid but that's another thing is intellectually i mean look at our look at look at the american 1.00

01:40:46.040 test scores look at look at our educational system or lack thereof three generations at 1.00

01:40:52.360 least have been poorly educated in this country it's no surprise that we have idiots like from 1.00

01:40:58.240 idiocracy the movie running this country it's it's no surprise and now we're talking you know 1.00

01:41:05.560 potentially world ending or whatever events and we have these people we don't have john f kennedy 0.61

01:41:11.860 secretly talking to nikita khrushchev through gromyko uh you know we don't have the the kinds

01:41:18.900 of responsible stewards uh of national security policy that we used to have we have a cia that

01:41:26.040 is apparently running rogue and running their own operations against uh you know the russians

01:41:31.460 even after the president publicly tells them their boss don't do it so that's kind of where we're at

01:41:37.420 now well i pray you're wrong but i do think you're the single most informed commentator on all of

01:41:44.720 this stuff oh my gosh I worry that you're not I have a lot of haters out there if you can believe

01:41:48.760 it you don't have much competition I will say that Brandon Weicker thank you very much for

01:41:53.600 all of that it was great thank you Tucker thanks thanks for watching we'll be back next Wednesday

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