The Tucker Carlson Show - September 25, 2026


Zelensky’s Press Secretary Returns From Exile With a Message for the Tyrant

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00:00:00.000 so thank you for coming back and i just want to say i'm sorry i knew there would be repercussions
00:00:09.100 for your first interview that you did earlier this year with us and apparently they were there
00:00:14.620 were can you tell us what happened after that interview aired well yes um actually thank you
00:00:21.620 for giving uh me the platform first time and now because uh right now ukrainians are facing huge
00:00:29.080 censorship everywhere, thanks to
00:00:31.240 Volodymyr Zelensky. And
00:00:33.020 our interview, for me, was a
00:00:35.180 trouble. I know that after
00:00:36.960 our interview, Zelensky
00:00:38.880 ordered to have some kind of
00:00:41.180 so-called linguistic expertise.
00:00:44.340 And
00:00:44.960 this is a corrupt practice that exists
00:00:47.160 in the government of Ukraine that
00:00:49.080 helps them prove something that
00:00:51.080 they want to prove to execute
00:00:53.180 their political persecution.
00:00:55.320 So this linguistic expertise
00:00:57.100 is still ongoing.
00:00:59.080 However, I'm already under sanctions.
00:01:01.980 If this linguistic expertise is finished, I'm going to face the treason charges
00:01:07.680 that in Ukraine under martial law can be from 15 years of prison to life sentence.
00:01:15.900 So this is absolutely crazy.
00:01:18.000 But let me explain why I am under sanctions.
00:01:21.240 I was invited to have a speech in the European Parliament
00:01:24.780 by the Alternative for Germany, AfD, one of the most actually popular party in Germany.
00:01:31.320 And this was supposed to be a speech about the necessity of peace for Ukraine.
00:01:37.340 We announced this speech, I think, approximately September 10th.
00:01:42.500 And on the 15th of September, Zelenskyy introduced imposed sanctions on me.
00:01:48.360 So what happened next was that when I arrived to the European Parliament on September 16th,
00:01:53.780 since when my speech needed to take place,
00:01:56.960 I was buried from entering the European Parliament
00:01:59.940 and we were told that they didn't know the reason,
00:02:03.020 but that personally, Roberta Mazzola,
00:02:05.940 who is the head of the European Parliament,
00:02:08.780 banned me from entering.
00:02:10.260 They also tried to ban the video transmission
00:02:13.320 and they did not allow to translate my speech
00:02:16.700 into German and French.
00:02:18.080 Thanks to FD, we managed somehow technically
00:02:22.860 to have video transmission and I even answered the questions. However, this shows a very huge
00:02:29.060 problem because I had a lot of questions from Western journalists. Why Ukrainians don't speak
00:02:36.540 about the necessity of peace? One journalist even told me that he had a feeling that no one
00:02:42.040 in Ukraine except of Yulia Mandel wanted peace. But I see this growing tendency and I'm sitting
00:02:47.840 here absolutely sure that majority of ukrainians want peace as soon as possible because i get
00:02:54.340 enormous support from everywhere but nobody sees that and i thought that it was the problem you
00:02:59.920 know ukrainians didn't um have enough people to talk enough contacts uh enough you know experience
00:03:08.260 or skills to reach the bigger platforms but it happens that there is just a censorship a huge
00:03:13.780 censorship. Nobody wants to listen to Ukrainians who call for peace. And this is, to be frank, 1.00
00:03:20.560 this is so heartbreaking and so disappointing because Ukraine today is looking at European
00:03:28.440 Union and the place of democracy or freedom of speech. But in fact, it is very far from the
00:03:36.960 reality. Yeah, so I'm under sanctions. What it means? It means that I cannot make any financial
00:03:45.380 operations in Ukraine. No buying, selling properties, cars, nothing. My financial accounts
00:03:52.720 are banned. My business accounts are cancelled, banned. I cannot have any bank accounts today.
00:03:58.460 But there is another thing that Zelenskyy introduced in the sanctions. My three accounts
00:04:04.820 and social media.
00:04:05.980 It is Facebook, Instagram, and Axe.
00:04:08.660 And he requested that these accounts
00:04:11.880 are banned from Ukrainian audience,
00:04:14.440 from the people who live in Ukraine.
00:04:16.920 And if it's possible,
00:04:18.640 I would really love to appeal,
00:04:21.420 to address today to the people
00:04:23.280 who work in Matter Company and in Axe,
00:04:26.620 not asking only for myself,
00:04:28.580 but asking for all Ukrainians
00:04:30.400 who are on systematic basis
00:04:32.920 are banned from talking to the Ukrainians in Ukraine.
00:04:37.040 This happens all the time.
00:04:38.840 I know the bloggers who repeatedly restart their pages
00:04:42.820 because they call for peace
00:04:44.640 and then the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine
00:04:46.740 requests to ban their accounts from Ukrainians.
00:04:51.020 And if it's possible, I just would like to underline 0.96
00:04:55.500 that for Ukrainians today,
00:04:57.720 social media is the only way actually to talk about peace.
00:05:03.440 And if these accounts are banned, my accounts and accounts of other Ukrainians,
00:05:09.060 then it actually disrupts any kind of communication. 0.84
00:05:13.180 Because Ukrainians today discuss what are the possibilities of peace,
00:05:16.700 how we see it, what are the issues for post-war Ukraine,
00:05:19.880 what we can accept.
00:05:21.560 This is the real matter.
00:05:23.420 And I really would ask, you know, to be attentive to this,
00:05:27.860 because this is our way to show the world, to show journalists,
00:05:32.380 to show politicians that there is this necessity to have peace.
00:05:37.840 It's such a remarkable story.
00:05:40.980 I remember our interview very well.
00:05:43.660 And in it, you spoke as a Ukrainian,
00:05:46.540 as a Ukrainian nationalist, as someone who loves Ukraine,
00:05:49.300 as someone who was very critical of Russia and Vladimir Putin.
00:05:52.600 You spoke directly to Putin in the interview.
00:05:55.000 And not in a friendly way, you said, please stop.
00:05:57.960 And so nothing you said, nothing I've seen you say
00:06:01.420 is pro-Russian or anti-Ukraine.
00:06:04.820 You're simply against watching
00:06:07.440 your entire population, 0.96
00:06:08.980 male population, get killed.
00:06:11.120 And so I don't understand 0.98
00:06:12.120 how is that treason?
00:06:14.820 Yeah, so this is a very corrupt practice 0.95
00:06:18.480 in Ukraine that actually allows
00:06:20.680 the politicians to persecute
00:06:24.140 disloyal people.
00:06:25.480 And Zelensky doesn't want anyone
00:06:28.020 to talk about peace
00:06:29.040 because, you know, G.D. Vance once wrote
00:06:32.220 a remarkable essay in the New York Times
00:06:35.300 where he said that the math in Ukraine does not add up.
00:06:38.680 And over two years have passed through since that essay
00:06:42.880 and the math in Ukraine still doesn't add up.
00:06:45.520 We lose people every day, we lose territories every day.
00:06:48.600 Just for you, the latest information that we got.
00:06:52.100 The Prime Minister of Poland said that
00:06:54.480 his Ukrainian colleagues told him
00:06:57.220 that Ukraine loses killed and wounded 27,000 of soldiers monthly in the front line.
00:07:04.540 Add to this only verified UN numbers of killed and wounded civilians, and it is around 3,000.
00:07:11.120 So we get around 30,000 of Ukrainians, soldiers and civilians dead or wounded every month, right?
00:07:18.720 It's a terrible number.
00:07:20.020 And if you think about the number of population, in 35 years of independence,
00:07:26.140 Ukraine has lost over half of its population, right?
00:07:30.560 So, to be frank, the war of attrition with Russia is nothing but suicidal policy, suicidal war.
00:07:38.120 So, I never justified what Putin has done.
00:07:41.420 And I call this the crimes against humanity, and I will reiterate.
00:07:46.020 His cruelty is unimaginable. 0.77
00:07:48.520 But it does not mean that what Zelensky is doing is good for Ukraine.
00:07:52.360 Because his policies are also suicidal, absolutely suicidal.
00:07:57.120 So we counted the population in Ukraine.
00:07:59.760 And right now, maximum, we have 4 million of men of conscription age.
00:08:05.960 In Russia, there are 38, 42 million of men.
00:08:09.780 So 10 times more.
00:08:11.600 I mean, this is absolutely suicidal to continue this war. 0.93
00:08:14.940 And let me say you that many people who support Ukraine,
00:08:18.140 They think that if Ukraine continues this war, we will stay independent and preserve our sovereignty. 0.89
00:08:25.680 But this is very much vice versa, because we are following now Afghanistan paths. 0.87
00:08:31.200 And if this war continues, we have many more chances to become a vassal state and actually to have enormous degradation of society, economy and everything. 0.99
00:08:40.700 than if we try to find realistic paths towards peace today
00:08:46.220 and then try to restore our economy, our democracy,
00:08:50.640 have elections, you know, try to return our people.
00:08:53.900 And maybe later with time, if we have good diplomats at the table,
00:08:58.720 maybe, you know, just maybe we will be able to return the territories.
00:09:01.940 But right now we're choosing between the territories and people.
00:09:05.640 And we are losing both.
00:09:06.880 But most importantly, we lose our people.
00:09:09.100 So this was what I told in the European Parliament.
00:09:12.900 And after that, Roberta Metzola sent her chief of staff to the AFD.
00:09:19.440 He tried to apologize to the organizer from AFD, Hans Neukhov,
00:09:24.080 and said that they were told that I'm going to spread Russian propaganda.
00:09:30.940 I'm a Ukrainian patriot.
00:09:32.980 I'm having a lot of support from Ukrainians from every region today,
00:09:36.920 writing, you know, messaging, comments, everything.
00:09:41.240 People wanted this to be out.
00:09:44.100 And another point of this,
00:09:46.740 before this speech was banned,
00:09:50.020 I tried actually to reach the chief of staff of Roberta Masola.
00:09:53.800 I wanted to talk to him.
00:09:55.120 I was eager to show him this speech,
00:09:57.940 but they didn't want to listen to anything.
00:09:59.620 They just banned it based on getting information from Ukraine.
00:10:03.780 Some Ukrainians were writing that this is personally Volodymyr Zelensky
00:10:07.700 who asked Roberta Metzola to ban me from the speech.
00:10:11.180 And now I'm facing a lot of attacks on social media.
00:10:15.340 My accounts are being attacked.
00:10:17.440 A lot of bots are there.
00:10:19.420 You know, they're even trying to ban my Telegram channel.
00:10:22.480 So I guess that there is a huge attention from the office of the president.
00:10:26.760 All his, you know, talking heads, we were talking about talking heads,
00:10:30.320 they are attacking me.
00:10:31.740 But there is this fight.
00:10:32.900 At least there is this fight.
00:10:34.800 And I need to tell you that our interview really opened a lot of things for Ukrainians.
00:10:41.880 I got a lot of thanks.
00:10:43.300 A lot of bloggers started talking more about what they see around, 0.64
00:10:47.960 about the necessity to stop the war.
00:10:49.880 I got a lot of thanks.
00:10:51.380 They said, thank you, Yulia, for your interview to Tucker Carlson.
00:10:54.520 You opened our eyes.
00:10:56.520 So I'm sitting here understanding that you are one of the few platforms
00:11:00.820 where Ukrainians can scream about the necessity of peace
00:11:05.680 just to preserve ourselves,
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00:12:12.520 How many Ukrainians do you believe
00:12:14.940 have been killed or wounded since this war began?
00:12:19.020 Well, I think there's hundreds of thousands,
00:12:21.460 hundreds of thousands.
00:12:22.940 And don't forget about millions of families
00:12:25.580 that have been destroyed 1.00
00:12:26.840 because they've turned into refugees 1.00
00:12:28.760 or they lost someone
00:12:30.660 or there are people, you know,
00:12:32.500 with lost limbs.
00:12:34.200 And, you know, something also very disgusting
00:12:36.400 happened on that day. 0.99
00:12:38.440 So Ursula von der Leyen,
00:12:40.900 the head of European Commission,
00:12:42.920 at the same day,
00:12:43.780 she decided to have a speech
00:12:45.400 in the European Parliament too.
00:12:47.360 And she invited a Ukrainian girl,
00:12:49.780 10-year-old girl who lost her limb
00:12:52.500 due to Russian shelling.
00:12:54.000 She's a dancer and she continues dancing.
00:12:56.220 and Ursula von der Leyen showed this girl 0.99
00:12:59.580 and made power on her.
00:13:01.280 And with this girl,
00:13:02.280 she justified the necessity to continue the war.
00:13:05.940 In Ukraine, it costs a lot of outrage
00:13:08.520 because I look at this girl
00:13:10.280 and this is the difference of perspective.
00:13:12.820 I look at her and I beg to stop this war
00:13:15.900 that Ukrainian children don't lose their limbs, eyes.
00:13:19.560 You know, my parents are doctors at frontline regions
00:13:23.160 and the stories that they tell about children
00:13:25.580 you know that they got in the hospitals they are terrified like you know wound in the head
00:13:32.020 or a lost uh hand or for instance a 23 days old girl that was killed due to russian shelling
00:13:39.860 and again i'm not minimizing russia's guilt the thing is that if we want to preserve ukraine
00:13:46.680 ukrainian nation we need to think about realistic ways of how to stop this war but what i see
00:13:52.720 Zelensky is doing. He keeps changing the conditions for the peace. And he also introduces
00:13:58.920 so maximally unachievable ways for the peace that I don't believe that he wants to get it at all.
00:14:07.980 There have been calls from some in the neoconservative foreign policy community 0.93
00:14:15.020 here in the United States and in Europe to start drafting women because so many Ukrainian men have
00:14:20.780 been killed. Draft Ukrainian women and send them into the meat grinder. Is that a popular idea in 1.00
00:14:27.600 Ukraine, do you think? It's not a popular idea to fight at all, neither for men nor for women.
00:14:35.020 It costs a lot of hatred, a lot of outrage, and to be frank, a lot of desire to leave the country. 0.99
00:14:41.180 I will just remind you that after our interview, I cannot return to Ukraine because there is a huge
00:14:47.340 attention to that question.
00:14:50.500 However,
00:14:51.180 I believe that if they move
00:14:56.600 with further mobilization of women
00:14:58.560 and lowering the conscription age, 0.69
00:15:01.520 there could be really a revolution
00:15:03.040 and Ukrainians are at the verge.
00:15:06.880 Let me just describe you a few facts
00:15:08.720 about how the forced mobilization is happening.
00:15:11.820 So by ombudsman data,
00:15:14.680 only 2-3% of men have been forcefully conscripted to the front line actually get to the fight.
00:15:22.080 All others pay bribes.
00:15:24.140 We count it and the conservative only count of the bribes that
00:15:27.760 exist in the sector of forced mobilization to avoid front line
00:15:31.360 can reach up to $5 billion annually.
00:15:35.340 This is enormous corruption.
00:15:37.200 And this is so enormous corruption that we understand that it is covered from the top.
00:15:41.300 It cannot just exist on the middle or low level.
00:15:43.880 Another thing that was discovered after our interview was that actually in conscription offices, there are torture, beating. Some men die. And this is so inhuman.
00:16:00.660 Actually, on the streets of Ukraine today, women defend men.
00:16:06.140 There is fighting sometimes.
00:16:08.260 Sometimes men need to use their weapons against the state
00:16:11.880 that tries to drag them to the front line or demand bribes.
00:16:15.860 And there is a huge opposition towards both the war and Zelensky's government.
00:16:20.640 It is so terrible.
00:16:23.240 So many men, they even do not get out of their house for weeks, months.
00:16:27.860 and some men sit in their houses for years
00:16:30.660 just to, you know, not to be grabbed on the street,
00:16:35.540 not to be beaten, not to be tortured
00:16:37.200 and not to be sent to the front line.
00:16:39.000 I cannot imagine.
00:16:39.880 This is my country.
00:16:41.120 This is so painful.
00:16:42.660 I cannot imagine how anyone could say
00:16:44.840 this is Russian propaganda.
00:16:46.900 This is everywhere.
00:16:48.740 Every Ukrainian is standing against it. 0.81
00:16:51.660 And I'm here to beg you to understand 1.00
00:16:53.760 that only finishing this war
00:16:55.820 can preserve Ukraine as a nation and the state.
00:17:00.560 We have been told in the West that democracy, Ukraine, is fighting tyranny, Russia.
00:17:09.800 But there are no elections for president in Ukraine.
00:17:13.280 How do you think if Zelensky were to allow an election,
00:17:16.920 if he were to stand for election, let voters decide whether to keep him in office,
00:17:21.040 would he win that election?
00:17:22.200 You know, I will tell you the insight that today was out, but I knew this earlier.
00:17:28.840 In July or June, Zelensky was thinking about conducting elections, but he actually didn't want to have free elections.
00:17:36.260 He wanted to have them manufactured.
00:17:38.240 So he invited the former commander-in-chief and his chief of staff, who enjoy some kind of rating today in Ukraine,
00:17:44.840 and asked them not to run for presidency,
00:17:48.660 but to support him as the only candidate for the potential alliance.
00:17:54.700 And at least one of them refused.
00:17:57.940 And under any circumstances,
00:18:00.740 it doesn't matter how corrupt the elections in Ukraine today are,
00:18:03.760 Zelensky doesn't have chances to win them.
00:18:06.340 So he understood that he will lose elections.
00:18:09.300 And now we hear the public statements
00:18:11.880 that we cannot just conduct the elections.
00:18:14.620 We have a lot of people out of the country.
00:18:17.160 Then the next reason, we have soldiers who cannot vote in front line.
00:18:21.560 Then the next reason, we have a lot of shelling, so we cannot organize elections.
00:18:25.840 So he will be coming up with any kind of reason to explain to the public why elections are not possible.
00:18:32.060 But I will remind your audience that up for today, he's standing in power for seven and a half years.
00:18:38.460 And for him, finishing this war is a suicidal policy because this is a political suicide.
00:18:43.400 He's not going to stay in power.
00:18:45.500 This war gives him money, gives him power, and gives him red coverage and the fame that
00:18:52.880 he enjoys.
00:18:54.320 Why doesn't the United States, which is making this war possible through the targeting information
00:18:59.640 it gives the Ukrainian military from our intelligence agencies, why doesn't the Trump
00:19:04.040 administration force Zelensky to leave?
00:19:06.300 He's not an elected leader.
00:19:07.780 He's eliminated civil liberties, freedoms in Ukraine.
00:19:11.640 Why not just tell him to leave and have an election?
00:19:15.200 Russia had wartime elections.
00:19:16.660 You can have wartime elections.
00:19:17.780 It happens all the time.
00:19:19.640 Why don't they do that?
00:19:21.360 I cannot answer for President Trump,
00:19:24.600 but maybe he doesn't want to meddle
00:19:27.420 in the politics of another country.
00:19:29.800 The problem is that since the last time we talked,
00:19:35.640 President Zelensky changed the strategy
00:19:41.360 and he convinced the Western partners to have escalation.
00:19:46.740 And this escalation has worsened the situation in Ukraine enormously.
00:19:51.020 So for us, for Ukrainians, it was really very weird
00:19:54.680 to read the American news for the first half of summer
00:19:57.700 where American media outlets were saying that
00:20:01.080 Ukraine is winning the war
00:20:02.660 because we never have been even close to winning the war.
00:20:05.640 we were suffering. And in July, we had the record of civilian deaths and wounded people
00:20:12.120 since May 2022. Actually, what happened, Russia started destroying our warehouses. We have over
00:20:19.360 90% of warehouses destroyed with all the everyday needs that, you know, Ukrainians,
00:20:24.720 as ordinary people use, including food, including, you know, clothes, including gadgets, and many 0.86
00:20:32.160 other things. We have destroyed gas stations, we have enormous ruins in energy infrastructure,
00:20:40.400 etc., etc. So what Ukrainians are expecting is actually a humanitarian catastrophe in winter,
00:20:47.100 and many are leaving today, so the West should expect more refugees. And to be frank, it is very 1.00
00:20:52.600 inhuman to not accept them, because I don't know how people will be surviving without heat,
00:20:58.540 without light, without food, you know, in the country under shelling, without autocratic
00:21:04.020 ruling, where people can be grabbed on the streets and sent to the front.
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00:22:04.480 Why do you think so many European leaders want to join the war?
00:22:10.480 Mertz in Germany, Bernaman in Great Britain, Macron in France, they all have said, you know, we're going to join this war with Ukraine.
00:22:20.580 Why?
00:22:22.100 That's such an interesting question.
00:22:23.960 So many people are asking me that, and I would really encourage my Western Media College journalists to investigate deeper what's happening there behind, you know, media publicity with all this drones production, right?
00:22:37.380 But just for your audience to explain how the distribution of aid for Ukraine works.
00:22:42.220 So, for instance, if we are promised 45 billion of euro per year, like 30, for instance, 30 billion of this money goes to drone production or weapons production.
00:22:54.620 And majority of this money doesn't go to Ukraine, it goes to the countries who actually distribute the money.
00:23:01.200 So, like Ryan Meadow, for instance, or French producers.
00:23:05.660 So, these weapons producers really enjoy enormous amounts of money.
00:23:10.000 And to be frank, as a PR person, I was following this enormous PR happening in media.
00:23:18.100 And I think that if we follow the money, we can explain a lot of things happening.
00:23:22.420 Like, for instance, just before NATO summit in Ankara in July, there were all these messages that Ukraine was winning the war.
00:23:29.300 And then Mark Rutte announced 140 billion euro of aid.
00:23:34.660 And in a week, we didn't get any more messages about Ukraine winning.
00:23:39.260 And in two weeks, we started getting messages that Ukraine is losing, Ukraine doesn't have
00:23:43.440 interceptors, we are having a humanitarian catastrophe approaching, etc., etc., etc. 0.75
00:23:48.740 Then at the end of summer, we started reading a lot of news about starting of World War
00:23:55.800 III about Russia trying to attack NATO countries, though a lot of NATO officials were saying
00:24:02.040 that they don't see any kind of preparation for this.
00:24:04.460 And again, I don't want anyhow to flatter Russia or to justify what it is doing, but it is very strange to hear that the country that cannot cope with Ukraine, that is not in NATO, not in EU and doesn't have even its own economy, would want to attack NATO countries.
00:24:21.360 So, then we understood that at the same time when there are these media headlines, there is a discussion of the next seven-year budget from 2028 to 2034.
00:24:35.460 And of course, the defense budget there are very tasty.
00:24:40.280 So, perhaps European Union just wants to preserve those defense budgets and to preserve them.
00:24:46.540 They need to justify in the media and today people why their defense budgets are so huge.
00:24:52.920 So they say about the World War III, you know, they escalate the rhetoric.
00:24:57.200 I'm just afraid where it will lead over us.
00:24:59.840 Because when I see the taste of Europeans towards the war, I don't believe that Europeans want to fight.
00:25:07.660 And actually the rating of Mr. Mertz, for instance, recordly low, 10%.
00:25:13.160 And getting lower and lower, tell us about that.
00:25:17.140 And then we have the AfD party that promotes peace.
00:25:20.960 And they break the record of popularity because people don't want war.
00:25:26.740 People want their leaders to talk to Russia.
00:25:29.380 People want their leaders to guarantee that there will be no war.
00:25:33.180 And as a Ukrainian, I will tell you that many Westerners, ordinary people,
00:25:37.860 they look at this war as a Hollywood movie.
00:25:40.680 And it is not.
00:25:41.580 It is a disaster.
00:25:43.400 It is a degradation of morality, of humanity.
00:25:47.340 It is death.
00:25:48.500 It is the worst thing that could happen to you.
00:25:51.300 I'll remind you the story how one American professor advised an American student to go
00:25:56.660 to the front line in Ukraine.
00:25:58.720 The guy went there.
00:26:00.500 He was shocked from the reality.
00:26:02.520 He pled to get him out.
00:26:04.940 And the professor just sent, everyone of us makes history in their own place.
00:26:09.840 What is that?
00:26:10.600 And I mean, how many professors there in America actually, you know, try to send your students to the war?
00:26:18.440 Don't do that. 0.69
00:26:19.160 Help us stop the war. 0.65
00:26:21.300 Yeah.
00:26:22.140 Well, how many professors in the United States are serving on the front lines of the Ukraine war?
00:26:26.560 How many neoconservative think tank employees are doing that?
00:26:29.420 Is Zelensky volunteering to go fight his own war?
00:26:32.500 Of course not.
00:26:33.240 None of the people pushing this war are putting their own lives at risk.
00:26:36.920 They're destroying an entire population for money, popularity, power.
00:26:43.400 But none of them are willing to die for it.
00:26:45.700 Other people die for it.
00:26:47.680 If I may add, when Zelensky was not the president,
00:26:51.040 he was invited to join the front line in Donbass for four times.
00:26:55.680 And he did not do that.
00:26:57.040 He declined.
00:26:57.980 He avoided conscription.
00:26:59.640 And now he is grabbing men on the street and sending them forcefully to the front line.
00:27:04.500 Wait, Zelensky himself avoided conscription?
00:27:08.500 Four times, yes.
00:27:09.600 This is public information in Ukraine.
00:27:11.640 So he's very far from Churchill that he is compared to.
00:27:15.100 And there is another story.
00:27:16.720 You know, I come from mainstream media.
00:27:18.880 I respect my colleagues who work there.
00:27:21.340 But I had this very strange experience
00:27:23.500 when I wanted to publish an article about peace.
00:27:26.700 And I sent it to a very famous American media.
00:27:30.000 And they declined, of course, without any explanation.
00:27:32.400 I didn't have any attack on Zelensky there.
00:27:35.500 You may still read it online.
00:27:37.380 You know, there was nothing political.
00:27:39.740 There was just a Gallup poll that was saying that majority of Ukrainians wanted peace.
00:27:44.000 And there were argumentations why we needed to have either ceasefire or peace, 0.88
00:27:47.560 because we were just declining, degrading as a nation.
00:27:51.680 So I was declined to publish that peace.
00:27:54.680 And in some time, I saw how the same media published a London professor
00:27:59.660 who actually was justifying this war
00:28:01.940 because he was saying how Russia is suffering
00:28:04.320 without mentioning how Ukraine was suffering,
00:28:07.500 how much we were losing,
00:28:09.260 you know, how many people we were losing.
00:28:11.200 So I just Googled if this professor
00:28:13.160 has ever been to Russia or to Ukraine.
00:28:15.820 And I was shocked to know that no,
00:28:17.620 he has never been to any of these countries.
00:28:20.400 He just gets his information from social media.
00:28:24.500 And that's how he has, you know,
00:28:27.120 some kind of imagination in his head
00:28:29.380 of what's going on.
00:28:30.600 And he produces this to your people.
00:28:33.300 And so your people believe
00:28:34.420 that this war has any kind of justification.
00:28:37.080 What I understood after Zelensky
00:28:39.720 convinced Western partners
00:28:41.380 to have escalation of this war
00:28:43.040 is that in the West,
00:28:44.820 many more people want Russia burned
00:28:47.520 than Ukraine to be saved.
00:28:49.680 And this is a terrible realization,
00:28:52.100 to be frank,
00:28:52.880 because my country is dying in front of you
00:28:55.400 and you keep applauding
00:28:56.820 one man on the red carpet 1.00
00:28:58.480 who sells you, I'm sorry to say, total nonsense, total bullshit. So I'm here to back from Ukrainians. 1.00
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00:32:09.180 Well, and as far as I understand, under Zelensky, the Ukrainian legislative body made it legal for foreigners to buy Ukrainian farmland, is now legal.
00:32:20.340 And Zelensky has announced that Ukraine will be importing foreigners
00:32:24.360 because they don't have enough manpower to run an economy.
00:32:28.940 And so it's possible in 10 years there will be no Ukraine.
00:32:33.280 Its land will be owned by foreigners and its population will be foreign. 0.97
00:32:36.420 So nation gone.
00:32:38.840 So even if we don't mention these facts, there is the math that just doesn't work.
00:32:45.840 Like if we have around a little bit more than 20 million of people staying in the country, down from 52 million in 1991, around 12 million of these people are pensioners and people with disabilities.
00:33:02.560 If you count down children, then, you know, we almost do not have any workforce and people obviously are living.
00:33:10.760 We lose from 600 to 800,000 of people, only officially, only officially.
00:33:18.700 Last year, we had three times more deaths than births.
00:33:22.620 This year, in the first half of this year, we had four times more deaths than births.
00:33:28.660 The demography is just catastrophic.
00:33:31.480 And I'm absolutely sure that every American who is a patriot to his own country,
00:33:37.820 If he or she would be in this condition and see your own country in this condition,
00:33:42.980 you would never agree to this.
00:33:44.620 You would never agree to this.
00:33:46.360 You would be also calling for peace to preserve American nation.
00:33:50.020 This is very patriotic to call for peace.
00:33:52.820 It's not Russian propaganda.
00:33:54.880 Peace cannot be pro-Russian.
00:33:57.920 I want this to be heard.
00:33:59.260 Peace cannot be pro-Russian.
00:34:01.120 Do you believe that Zelensky and his family have gotten richer during this war? 0.54
00:34:10.900 So, let's just stick to facts, right?
00:34:15.740 There is a company which is called Firepoint.
00:34:19.040 And if you just Google, you will find that Kiev Independent, it's a Ukrainian media outlet,
00:34:24.680 figured out that there is
00:34:27.440 a Volodymyr Zelenskyy's long-term partner,
00:34:30.720 business partner,
00:34:31.660 staying behind this company.
00:34:34.040 And after our interview,
00:34:36.740 there were wiretaps
00:34:37.700 that were published,
00:34:39.620 unfortunately, only in Ukraine.
00:34:41.580 And on these wiretaps
00:34:43.080 produced by anti-corruption bodies,
00:34:45.560 there were dialogues
00:34:47.980 between the Minister of Defense
00:34:50.340 appointed by Volodymyr Zelenskyy
00:34:51.720 and then the partner of President Zelensky
00:34:55.700 talking about billions of euros
00:34:58.660 that were going to Firepoint.
00:35:02.080 Ukraine today is drowning in corruption.
00:35:05.560 Corruption scandals about millions, millions,
00:35:08.120 tens of millions of dollars
00:35:09.440 are sounding every day.
00:35:11.940 And there are businesses
00:35:13.620 that are created just for money laundering,
00:35:16.900 like, for instance, call centers businesses
00:35:19.020 or gambling businesses
00:35:20.500 where hundreds of millions of dollars
00:35:22.300 can be money laundered monthly.
00:35:24.780 So I don't know if Zelensky is benefiting
00:35:28.960 or he pretends not to know
00:35:32.000 or he does not know.
00:35:33.480 What is worse than that, right?
00:35:35.660 But I guess we will need to learn a lot
00:35:39.240 about his bank accounts post-war.
00:35:43.440 And I need to remind to Americans
00:35:46.800 that almost every person near Zelensky is accused in corruption.
00:35:52.540 For instance, his chief of staff, Andrei Yermak, former chief of staff,
00:35:56.380 is accused in 10 million of dollars money laundering.
00:36:00.280 For this money, he was building four luxury mansions in Kiev region.
00:36:05.820 These mansions belong to three people who are very close to Zelensky family.
00:36:11.120 And the last mention belongs to a person named Vova.
00:36:14.900 Vova is a diminishing form of Volodymyr.
00:36:17.920 And in the country, there is a big question,
00:36:20.220 who is Vova, who is building a luxury mansion in Kiev region?
00:36:24.180 And obviously, for the majority of the people,
00:36:26.480 the answer is it's Volodymyr Zelensky's cottage.
00:36:29.400 The other thing which is very disgusting,
00:36:31.400 what we've learned,
00:36:32.500 is that he was building those mansions before the war.
00:36:37.420 Then, when the large-scale invasion started, he stopped.
00:36:39.940 And they restored building the houses in March 2022.
00:36:45.900 So while Ukrainians were just sitting under Russian missiles and dying and not knowing what to do next,
00:36:53.120 losing their houses, losing their hope, running away,
00:36:56.620 Zelensky and his friends restarted building luxury mansions in the key region.
00:37:02.560 For me personally, it tells a lot about a person.
00:37:05.580 well i mean it's it's beyond belief to to do something like that during a war in which your
00:37:12.380 entire nation is being destroyed um suggests he doesn't care about the nation do you think that
00:37:19.760 zelensky does care about ukraine and if he does why is he continuing this
00:37:25.020 i i i feel like he stands only for his own personal interests recently i was talking to
00:37:31.920 one person has known him for tens of years, he is very close, and the guy said that he recognizes
00:37:38.920 that Zelensky preserves himself, sacrificing thousands of lives of Ukrainians. That's why
00:37:46.760 the hatred of Zelensky is so huge in the country. People don't accept what he is doing, they don't
00:37:53.740 accept the escalation, and that is why it's so important that the voices from Ukraine sound on
00:37:59.360 the platforms like yours or like European Parliament. And so this is, you know, this is
00:38:05.880 really heartbreaking that we are bent, that nobody hears Ukrainians want peace. And this is the 0.63
00:38:12.400 majority. Up to now, the latest Gallup poll said that 66% of Ukrainians want peace as soon as
00:38:19.360 possible. Every next peace deal for Ukraine is worse and worse because we'll lose more territories.
00:38:26.460 It's more difficult to get more territories back and we lose more people.
00:38:30.880 And we're not going to, you know, return those people.
00:38:34.640 Our economy is in enormously bad shape because the European Union gives us loan after loan.
00:38:41.080 We have our debt, external debt, already equal to 110% of GDP.
00:38:49.700 And here is another bad mess. 0.83
00:38:51.800 Russia has not even borough for this for.
00:38:54.840 So like, how are we expecting military victory from the country that doesn't have enough people,
00:39:01.980 doesn't have economy, that is losing democracy, that is a cage and against, you know, Russia,
00:39:09.440 who has resources, who still continues trade with the EU and who has so much more to win this war
00:39:20.780 of attrition. And, you know, we had a singer, a very famous singer in Ukraine, just giving the
00:39:27.560 interview. And she said that Ukraine looks for her like a concentration camp. And so many people
00:39:36.800 supported her. She's got enormous support. But after that, she also got some call from political
00:39:42.660 circles and she needed just to apologize and say that she did not mean that. So everything that is
00:39:50.260 being set against policies in Ukraine
00:39:52.840 or critical to Volodymyr Zelensky
00:39:55.520 is announced to be a Russian propaganda
00:39:58.360 the same way as my speech was
00:40:01.140 in the European Parliament.
00:40:02.880 And we're just banned
00:40:04.020 to have this freedom of expression,
00:40:06.980 freedom of speech,
00:40:08.120 criticize, disagree, anything.
00:40:11.080 And everything that Ukrainian,
00:40:12.500 good Ukrainian patriot can do
00:40:14.060 is just die for his own country. 0.90
00:40:16.300 That's what Zelensky suggests us to do.
00:40:19.380 How do you think Zelensky thinks this will end?
00:40:24.380 I don't think that he is thinking about ending this war
00:40:27.780 because in the same months he understood that elections are not possible.
00:40:33.260 Mr. Yermak, who is still advising to Volodymyr Zelensky and meeting him at home,
00:40:39.440 said that it's better just to continue the war for the next two years
00:40:43.040 Because Zelensky and Yermak and his government are sure that they have got allocated aid, military aid for the next two years.
00:40:55.680 It is a disastrous type of thinking because, unfortunately, they are very bad at math again.
00:41:01.480 Because even in August and September, there is this call that Ukraine lacks of 27 billion of dollars for this year.
00:41:09.400 So he wants to take the money from the next year, you know, and this is what he has done from the previous year.
00:41:16.720 So Ukraine just doesn't produce any added value.
00:41:20.260 Our metallurgy exports have been bombed out.
00:41:24.840 Our agriculture is bombed out and severely restricted from the European Union quarters and many other, you know, for many other reasons.
00:41:35.020 And these are metallurgy and agriculture were our two major exports issues.
00:41:41.240 So today, we just don't produce any added value, any innovation, any science, except of military drones.
00:41:49.040 There is a huge militarization of society, radicalization of society. 0.66
00:41:54.460 And what I see is not the Ukraine that I was proud of. 0.90
00:41:57.900 It's just Ukraine that is degrading every day.
00:42:00.940 So, yeah, my point is that anything that can be done today to stop this war and to restore everything, politics, elections, the country, demography, economy, democracy, it needs to be done today.
00:42:22.400 And there is no better condition for the peace than now, because Zelensky promises you better conditions, but it will never happen.
00:42:30.280 There is no better conditions for peace than now. 0.80
00:42:34.840 My last question is, if it's clear that Ukraine can't win
00:42:39.040 because the numbers don't add up, as you said,
00:42:41.520 and that's been obvious since the very first day,
00:42:44.740 why is Zelensky accelerating the attacks
00:42:48.400 on Russian targets within Russia?
00:42:52.720 Russian energy infrastructure, refineries, civilians.
00:42:57.320 What is his thinking?
00:42:58.600 Why would he do that?
00:43:00.280 But this is how he gets money, right?
00:43:03.080 He sends the firepoint, Russia burns,
00:43:06.920 he gets money for videos and photos of burning Russia.
00:43:10.620 People are unprotected.
00:43:12.460 93% of our shelters cannot defend anyone.
00:43:16.120 We don't have closed skies.
00:43:18.620 The only thing that authorities today tell people on the frontline regions, leave.
00:43:23.760 They don't offer any kind of financial aid.
00:43:26.900 They don't offer any shelter in any houses, nothing.
00:43:30.280 What they offer is leave. 1.00
00:43:32.640 Ukrainians are surviving by themselves. 1.00
00:43:34.560 The money that Western people are sending, 0.80
00:43:37.820 the Western taxes,
00:43:39.160 they don't help Ukrainians today. 1.00
00:43:40.920 That's the point. 1.00
00:43:42.080 What they help is to produce more weapons.
00:43:44.860 Firepoint is the major one
00:43:46.460 that Zelensky is advertising,
00:43:48.120 but there are some other companies, you know.
00:43:50.400 And so this is just business
00:43:52.760 and this is the business of blood. 0.77
00:43:55.000 And this is awful and disgusting.
00:43:57.140 That's why I'm here, Taka.
00:43:58.360 And thank you for giving me this platform.
00:44:00.880 It's one of the worst stories I've ever heard.
00:44:03.360 And you are a brave woman for telling it.
00:44:05.480 And you have the firsthand knowledge.
00:44:07.000 So I'm grateful.
00:44:08.320 And I hope that many people see this.
00:44:09.940 And I wish you safety.
00:44:12.580 So thank you.
00:44:13.400 Thank you very much.
00:44:14.420 Thank you, Tucker.
00:44:15.200 Good luck to you too.
00:44:16.320 Thank you.