The Tucker Carlson Show - Megyn Kelly： Taylor Swift’s Extremist Transgender Ideology, Debate Reaction, & Cable News Collapse

00:00:00.000 I am genuinely honored to introduce Megyn Kelly who I could talk for like an hour about actually

00:00:06.360 since I know Megyn Kelly really well and I would just say a couple things about Megyn Kelly.

00:00:11.400 Megyn Kelly, she was at the company that we once worked for. It was a TV company based in New York

00:00:18.040 City on 6th Avenue and I got there after being fired from a couple of different jobs and so I

00:00:26.100 was like totally powerless and you know disgraced or there's I've had many firings but I was in the

00:00:30.840 middle in between firings at the time and Megyn Kelly was the was the dominant person there because

00:00:36.260 she was the most talented person in the building just like pure talent and Megyn Kelly for reasons

00:00:42.140 I've never even asked her I don't know the answer went out of her way to help me like to such an

00:00:46.980 extent I didn't even really know Megyn Kelly but Megyn Kelly went out of her way and I mean out of

00:00:52.460 her way like at risk to herself like in some meeting you know I don't know that guy he's

00:00:56.380 kind of a buffoon no he's good you should promote him and I don't know again I don't know why she

00:01:01.620 did that well I do know why actually because Megyn Kelly is actually a really decent person

00:01:05.740 and if you're which I shouldn't even have to say but if you're a lawyer on TV

00:01:11.540 which she is like you would not want to be cross-examined by Megyn Kelly at all

00:01:16.500 that would be a nightmare you would lose actually probably get the death penalty for whatever the

00:01:21.320 offense I'm just laying on my electrical bill to San Quentin you know she's tough

00:01:26.200 it's really striking to see what a truly graceful and gracious person she is and I've just lived that

00:01:36.040 firsthand she's also you know just the smartest and the coolest so with that ladies and gentlemen

00:01:40.960 Megyn Kelly

00:01:41.920 this is cool wow this is so beautiful

00:01:52.000 thank you

00:01:55.120 thank you for that

00:01:58.480 can I say one other thing about Megyn Kelly before I let Megyn Kelly talk I'm not going to say much

00:02:01.460 if so if you spend your life in a studio it's just so interesting you have total control over

00:02:07.520 everything and most people who don't who's to do that really don't like live events

00:02:12.880 I'm 99% in fact the most talented people you know on television and radio do not like to be in large

00:02:19.360 rooms full of people because they they're uncomfortable around people Megan is the exception to that and I think it just

00:02:25.040 shows her love of people and I just really noticed that today

00:02:28.320 can you believe he didn't know why I kept telling them

00:02:33.140 Tucker's good

00:02:34.220 trust me

00:02:35.140 he's the only one who doesn't understand that

00:02:38.280 it was obvious to anyone with eyes and ears what a star he was

00:02:43.120 whether it was weekend Fox and Friends or in the prime time of Fox

00:02:46.480 always been a believer

00:02:47.960 it was not obvious to everyone I will say that

00:02:49.840 including some of my relatives but thank you so much

00:02:52.180 it was obvious to the smart ones

00:02:53.460 so okay so I'm at lunch today we land we're in Tulsa this morning land here

00:02:58.920 land within 30 minutes I'm at a barbecue place behaving like an animal

00:03:03.720 overeating all kinds of stuff on my shirt I really disgraced myself

00:03:09.240 I am going to tell Casey Means about this when I see it

00:03:10.940 it was disgusting I have to get under control but this couple came up to me and they're like

00:03:14.820 oh we just came from Dallas because we heard Megan say

00:03:18.020 I said we're going to Dallas she's like yeah but we came to see Megan okay cool

00:03:20.440 and they're like you have to ask Megan about Taylor Swift

00:03:25.260 and no this happened to me it's just this I know

00:03:28.780 and I'm only dimly aware of who Taylor Swift is because I don't have a TV okay so

00:03:32.240 I don't go on the internet much and then I come here and someone's like are you going to ask her about Taylor Swift

00:03:36.200 I've got thoughts

00:03:38.060 so

00:03:39.040 it's a sincere question why are people telling me to ask you that and

00:03:43.780 do you think Taylor Swift who apparently endorsed

00:03:46.780 Carmela Harris just the other day will have I know I know I'm not here to endorse Taylor Swift trust me

00:03:53.240 will this have an effect what's the significance of this

00:03:56.780 I don't know whether it will have an effect I mean supposedly some 350,000 people have rushed to some website to register to vote or

00:04:05.440 express interest in potentially doing that but young people don't generally vote and I don't think people who at this point in the election cycle

00:04:11.900 had not registered to vote are not going to do it because of Taylor Swift

00:04:15.720 but let's set that to the side

00:04:18.300 screw you Taylor Swift

00:04:20.960 that's how I would like to begin

00:04:26.320 this woman

00:04:29.860 has got how

00:04:32.360 she's a billionaire

00:04:33.740 I saw her amazing mansion in Rhode Island

00:04:37.560 I went to some hotel there and there it is up on a cliff

00:04:40.240 you've never seen a more beautiful home

00:04:41.620 it's one of what 20

00:04:42.980 she's got so many gifts

00:04:44.900 thanks to all of you

00:04:46.060 thanks to your daughters

00:04:47.420 who you probably had to drag to her concerts

00:04:49.280 and you want to make your daughter happy

00:04:50.560 and so you didn't

00:04:51.200 and it's true whether you're a Republican or a Democrat

00:04:53.000 and how does she thank this nation

00:04:55.560 she turns around

00:04:57.140 not only does she pick a side

00:04:59.660 in a hotly contested presidential election

00:05:02.000 alienating at least half of her fan base

00:05:04.440 but she says the reason

00:05:06.600 she's voting for Kamala Harris

00:05:08.380 is because of Tim Walz's

00:05:10.820 LGBTQ

00:05:11.940 stance

00:05:13.400 do you know

00:05:16.460 what Tim Walz has done

00:05:18.200 on the LGBTQ front

00:05:19.920 Tim Walz

00:05:21.200 let me tell you what's going to happen

00:05:23.240 okay

00:05:23.940 here's what's going to happen

00:05:25.080 a little girl

00:05:26.800 sitting in Wisconsin

00:05:28.360 who's maybe on the spectrum

00:05:30.760 maybe has acne

00:05:32.340 maybe is a little heavyset

00:05:33.860 maybe feels upset

00:05:35.240 because the parents are getting divorced

00:05:36.300 something like that

00:05:37.080 is going to find herself

00:05:39.260 down a rabbit hole

00:05:40.280 on Reddit

00:05:40.800 and her parents aren't going to know

00:05:42.660 because they're getting a divorce

00:05:43.560 and they're not focused on her right now

00:05:44.940 and she's going to spend

00:05:45.660 hour after hour

00:05:46.460 on that thing

00:05:47.040 and Reddit's going to tell her

00:05:48.540 she's actually a boy

00:05:49.520 and she's going to get sucked

00:05:51.320 into this gender cult

00:05:52.500 and she's going to say

00:05:53.800 mom and dad

00:05:54.360 I want puberty blockers

00:05:55.480 and to cross sex hormones

00:05:56.400 which will sterilize her

00:05:57.700 and deprive her

00:05:59.020 of all sexual pleasure

00:06:00.100 for the rest of her life

00:06:01.000 and they're going to say

00:06:02.640 no

00:06:02.960 you're a girl

00:06:04.060 and she's going to say

00:06:04.880 but I want top surgery

00:06:06.420 this benign thing

00:06:07.420 this double mastectomy

00:06:09.040 where I'll have tubes

00:06:09.740 coming out of me

00:06:10.280 and I'll never breastfeed a child

00:06:11.360 I want that too

00:06:12.200 because I'm a boy

00:06:12.980 and they're going to say no

00:06:14.240 and she's going to go

00:06:15.820 to a judge

00:06:16.500 in Minnesota

00:06:17.580 and because of Tim Walls

00:06:20.160 the court will take custody of her

00:06:22.780 use the Medicaid funds

00:06:24.520 in Minnesota

00:06:24.980 to provide her

00:06:26.540 all of those things

00:06:27.940 chop off her breasts

00:06:29.300 sterilize her

00:06:30.280 with the puberty blockers

00:06:31.140 into the cross sex hormones

00:06:32.220 and when this girl

00:06:33.440 inevitably comes to the conclusion

00:06:34.900 that she didn't want any of this

00:06:36.320 that it only added to her problems

00:06:38.120 which were the divorce

00:06:39.080 and the acne

00:06:39.680 and the puberty

00:06:40.260 and not any trans issue

00:06:42.020 who is she going to go to then

00:06:44.020 this is all because of Tim Walls

00:06:46.840 that's what Minnesota

00:06:47.880 is doing right now

00:06:48.880 to little girls and boys

00:06:49.840 taking custody away

00:06:51.160 from the parents

00:06:51.960 so that they can have

00:06:53.020 these procedures

00:06:53.580 without any loving parent there

00:06:55.100 to help

00:06:55.900 and that's what Taylor Swift

00:06:58.020 just endorsed

00:06:58.960 for your children

00:07:00.020 so screw you

00:07:01.700 Taylor Swift

00:07:03.040 that is

00:07:05.620 first of all

00:07:08.760 thank you for saying that

00:07:10.140 and pardon my ignorance

00:07:12.340 this is one of those topics

00:07:13.420 that's so upsetting to me

00:07:14.600 I have too many children

00:07:15.560 I think

00:07:16.680 they can take custody

00:07:18.500 yeah

00:07:19.240 there's a law

00:07:20.180 that Tim Walls signed

00:07:21.060 that says the court

00:07:22.300 can take jurisdiction

00:07:23.560 which in this instance

00:07:24.540 means custody

00:07:25.180 over minor children

00:07:26.860 who are not getting

00:07:28.740 the gender affirming care

00:07:30.980 which is a lie

00:07:31.660 there's only two sexes

00:07:33.560 gender's bullshit

00:07:34.380 there's men and there's women

00:07:35.420 one cannot become the other

00:07:37.180 and he signed a law

00:07:40.420 saying that they can take jurisdiction

00:07:42.160 over minor children

00:07:43.080 who are not being affirmed

00:07:44.460 by their children

00:07:45.320 and get all of those procedures done

00:07:47.720 outside of any connection

00:07:49.340 your parents will have

00:07:50.100 nothing to do with it

00:07:50.700 they won't have access to you

00:07:51.740 that's so dark

00:07:56.560 yeah

00:07:56.900 I have to say

00:07:58.080 I look at

00:07:58.620 you were describing

00:07:59.260 how rich Taylor Swift is

00:08:00.860 why isn't she happy

00:08:03.120 good question

00:08:04.480 I mean listen

00:08:06.020 there's

00:08:06.860 what is she like 32

00:08:08.060 I don't know what she is

00:08:08.780 she's young

00:08:09.620 she's never had a relationship

00:08:11.200 that works

00:08:11.640 she makes a lot of money

00:08:12.440 off of writing about it

00:08:14.180 that could be part of the problem

00:08:16.240 like

00:08:17.080 for the reasons

00:08:18.160 you were just discussing

00:08:18.980 when you find true love

00:08:20.700 when you have somebody

00:08:21.300 who loves you unconditionally

00:08:22.580 you know

00:08:23.540 warts and all

00:08:24.160 that's everything

00:08:25.660 and she hasn't been able

00:08:26.860 to find it

00:08:27.340 she's made a lot of money

00:08:28.160 off of it

00:08:28.700 and I think she travels

00:08:30.120 from city to city

00:08:31.560 without the grounding

00:08:33.200 that you have

00:08:33.800 that I have

00:08:34.340 that hopefully all of you have

00:08:35.440 and maybe she's feeling untethered

00:08:37.580 maybe she's feeling empty

00:08:38.980 and lost

00:08:39.460 and maybe she wants

00:08:40.520 other people

00:08:41.120 to make similar decisions

00:08:42.700 in life as she has

00:08:43.820 because people feel validated

00:08:45.420 when you do that

00:08:46.140 and I think that's why

00:08:47.900 she's misleading these kids

00:08:49.360 she doesn't have the core

00:08:50.680 that you should have

00:08:52.500 before you ever advise somebody

00:08:54.600 on electoral politics

00:08:56.320 I totally agree

00:08:57.640 right

00:08:57.980 I completely agree

00:08:59.300 so it's a very dark day

00:09:00.920 and I feel like

00:09:01.560 she betrayed

00:09:02.400 all of the moms and dads

00:09:04.220 who took their little girls there

00:09:06.100 and fostered a relationship

00:09:07.720 of fandom

00:09:08.340 not knowing

00:09:09.620 that she would then

00:09:10.300 turn around

00:09:10.900 and try to trans your kid

00:09:12.660 or bless the man

00:09:14.540 who's doing it

00:09:15.340 whether he's the Minnesota governor

00:09:16.580 or God forbid

00:09:17.280 the vice president

00:09:18.020 boy you just made

00:09:18.720 such a deep point

00:09:19.820 almost offhandedly

00:09:20.920 as you do

00:09:21.520 almost parenthetically

00:09:22.440 but that

00:09:22.940 she doesn't have the grounding

00:09:24.340 to be advising

00:09:25.320 on a question like this

00:09:27.020 like would you buy

00:09:28.180 real estate

00:09:28.760 from a homeless person

00:09:29.640 or would you

00:09:30.160 take investment advice

00:09:31.580 from Bernie Madoff

00:09:32.460 like why would I ever

00:09:33.620 take an important

00:09:34.500 piece of life advice

00:09:35.900 from someone

00:09:36.820 whose life is a disaster

00:09:37.960 right

00:09:38.480 if she wants to tell me

00:09:39.920 how to sing the song

00:09:41.300 I mean

00:09:42.160 okay

00:09:42.840 I guess I'll listen to that

00:09:44.260 but you know

00:09:45.140 I think it was

00:09:45.560 the comedian Andrew Schultz

00:09:46.640 who said we'd just be

00:09:47.420 so much better off

00:09:48.140 if people would just

00:09:48.700 do the thing

00:09:49.120 they're supposed to do

00:09:49.840 right

00:09:50.760 if the actor

00:09:51.300 would just act

00:09:51.900 and the singer

00:09:52.300 would just sing

00:09:52.920 and the basketball player

00:09:53.640 would just play basketball

00:09:54.560 I don't want her life advice

00:09:57.760 on anything

00:09:58.240 but what's so pernicious

00:09:59.660 about this

00:10:00.240 is that we've inadvertently

00:10:01.520 thankfully not yours truly

00:10:03.360 but most parents

00:10:04.980 with tween girls

00:10:06.660 have inadvertently

00:10:07.800 fostered a relationship

00:10:09.260 between this person

00:10:10.080 and their daughters

00:10:10.720 and allowed her

00:10:12.180 to become a role model

00:10:13.640 to them

00:10:14.060 and now she takes

00:10:15.380 advantage of that

00:10:16.080 by looking at these

00:10:16.880 young girls

00:10:17.360 saying vote Harris-Waltz

00:10:19.120 because you can get

00:10:20.200 an abortion

00:10:20.620 at any age

00:10:21.680 and at any term

00:10:22.680 under them

00:10:23.440 because you can turn

00:10:24.700 into a boy

00:10:25.320 under them

00:10:26.300 because unlike

00:10:28.120 what they said

00:10:28.640 at the debate

00:10:29.100 you can try to abort

00:10:30.460 your baby

00:10:30.840 and it can be born

00:10:31.360 on the table

00:10:31.780 and we can just

00:10:32.260 let it sit there

00:10:32.980 without any medical care

00:10:34.080 under Harris-Waltz

00:10:35.240 that is a thing

00:10:36.180 notwithstanding

00:10:37.000 the fake fact check

00:10:38.380 by ABC News

00:10:39.600 it's sick

00:10:40.940 it's hard to see

00:10:46.380 though

00:10:46.900 Taylor Swift

00:10:48.200 in isolation

00:10:49.060 I'm just guessing here

00:10:50.220 but if she's really

00:10:50.920 in her early 30s

00:10:51.680 and she's made a billion dollars

00:10:52.760 in the music business

00:10:53.580 I don't have a ton

00:10:54.420 of her albums

00:10:55.020 myself

00:10:56.020 I can't even assess

00:10:57.760 her music

00:10:58.120 but she's the product

00:10:59.700 of a system

00:11:00.400 and she's got to

00:11:02.420 some large extent

00:11:03.240 be acting

00:11:03.840 on behalf of that

00:11:04.820 on the American

00:11:05.920 entertainment system

00:11:06.780 which is to some extent

00:11:07.640 a propaganda system

00:11:08.800 like this is an indictment

00:11:10.800 of a whole industry

00:11:11.600 kind of

00:11:12.160 I mean

00:11:13.400 the part

00:11:14.540 the problem

00:11:15.340 with big movies

00:11:17.880 and big

00:11:18.780 you know

00:11:19.460 rock and roll

00:11:20.140 or records

00:11:20.780 or pop

00:11:21.260 is a lot of people

00:11:23.320 who are drawn

00:11:23.880 to those industries

00:11:24.720 are empty inside

00:11:25.880 to begin with

00:11:26.540 and we saw

00:11:27.780 a flash of this

00:11:28.660 in a brilliant moment

00:11:29.580 at the Oscars

00:11:30.220 this year

00:11:30.600 where to his credit

00:11:31.640 Robert Downey Jr.

00:11:32.560 got up there

00:11:33.040 and he won

00:11:33.500 for best actor

00:11:34.280 I think

00:11:34.780 or supporting

00:11:35.580 one or the other

00:11:36.100 for Oppenheimer

00:11:37.140 and the very first

00:11:38.560 thing he said

00:11:39.020 was

00:11:39.220 I'd like to

00:11:39.920 thank my terrible

00:11:40.860 childhood

00:11:41.340 right

00:11:42.820 and some people

00:11:44.460 are self-aware

00:11:45.120 and they get

00:11:45.600 through that

00:11:46.060 and the vast

00:11:47.360 majority are not

00:11:48.160 and do not

00:11:48.740 and so they go

00:11:49.740 to these industries

00:11:50.380 like becoming

00:11:51.680 a pop singer

00:11:52.320 or becoming

00:11:53.160 a Hollywood actor

00:11:54.460 because they're

00:11:55.040 seeking fame

00:11:55.720 and to fill a void

00:11:56.840 and they think

00:11:57.980 that these artifices

00:11:59.120 are going to do it

00:11:59.960 you know

00:12:00.160 if I can just

00:12:00.660 become rich

00:12:01.320 if the people

00:12:02.320 will just love me

00:12:03.300 if people will

00:12:04.800 give me a golden

00:12:05.400 statue

00:12:05.920 somehow

00:12:06.840 I'll feel

00:12:08.100 validated

00:12:08.620 like I matter

00:12:09.540 like none

00:12:10.540 of the bad

00:12:10.920 stuff that

00:12:11.300 happened to me

00:12:11.880 is consequential

00:12:12.980 and what they

00:12:14.380 inevitably find

00:12:15.120 is it fills

00:12:15.920 no voids

00:12:16.580 it only adds

00:12:17.720 to their problems

00:12:18.500 all the emptiness

00:12:19.640 is still there

00:12:20.340 this is what

00:12:20.820 happened to

00:12:21.140 Matthew Perry

00:12:21.720 among many

00:12:22.820 many others

00:12:23.440 and I think

00:12:24.700 you know

00:12:25.020 I don't want

00:12:25.320 to psychoanalyze

00:12:26.160 Taylor Swift

00:12:26.640 but I don't

00:12:28.280 think this level

00:12:29.300 of fame

00:12:29.700 is healthy

00:12:30.120 for anyone

00:12:31.100 we've started

00:12:32.500 to make her

00:12:33.080 some sort

00:12:33.620 of an idol

00:12:35.240 and that's

00:12:36.360 sick on our part

00:12:37.280 I try to

00:12:38.840 counter program

00:12:39.480 this with my kids

00:12:40.060 all the time

00:12:40.360 saying she's

00:12:41.080 a singer

00:12:41.740 she sings

00:12:42.160 some good songs

00:12:42.740 that's it

00:12:43.780 that's it

00:12:44.480 she's not someone

00:12:45.460 to look up to

00:12:45.960 and let this

00:12:47.100 be a lesson

00:12:47.480 to us all

00:12:47.960 that we don't

00:12:49.000 foster that kind

00:12:49.680 of a relationship

00:12:50.220 with a stranger

00:12:51.020 who's chosen

00:12:52.260 to go into

00:12:52.700 one of these

00:12:53.100 very damaging

00:12:53.720 industries

00:12:54.200 because then

00:12:55.300 they've got

00:12:55.700 your kid

00:12:56.300 in the palm

00:12:56.740 of their hand

00:12:57.260 and they can

00:12:57.660 use that power

00:12:58.320 for evil

00:12:58.860 that is so wise

00:13:01.320 everything you've

00:13:03.840 said is really

00:13:04.320 wise

00:13:04.600 and I wonder

00:13:05.180 why

00:13:05.780 I mean you've

00:13:06.920 just said

00:13:07.620 directly or by

00:13:08.780 implication

00:13:09.280 more about

00:13:10.500 what it takes

00:13:11.280 to become

00:13:12.000 fulfilled

00:13:13.080 what a

00:13:13.640 what a

00:13:14.000 what a full

00:13:14.660 life actually

00:13:15.300 looks like

00:13:15.800 than I've heard

00:13:16.180 from any

00:13:16.740 leader in our

00:13:17.600 country

00:13:18.040 like maybe

00:13:19.000 ever

00:13:19.440 so why does

00:13:20.780 no one ever

00:13:21.500 get honest

00:13:22.340 with people

00:13:22.840 no one with a

00:13:23.300 position of

00:13:24.060 you know

00:13:24.940 authority

00:13:25.500 or with a big

00:13:26.180 audience

00:13:26.620 about

00:13:27.160 what it

00:13:28.040 actually looks

00:13:28.740 like to live

00:13:29.300 a happy

00:13:29.640 fulfilled life

00:13:30.400 oh wait

00:13:30.840 because

00:13:31.220 so we could

00:13:32.720 have added

00:13:33.420 politicians

00:13:34.520 into our

00:13:35.580 list

00:13:36.080 of the people

00:13:37.540 who go to

00:13:37.980 Hollywood

00:13:38.340 and the people

00:13:38.840 who go into

00:13:39.260 you know

00:13:39.600 the rock and

00:13:40.320 roll industry

00:13:40.720 to become

00:13:41.100 famous

00:13:41.620 just as easily

00:13:42.880 I mean this

00:13:43.580 is one of the

00:13:43.980 problems with

00:13:44.440 our politicians

00:13:45.000 today

00:13:45.460 I was talking

00:13:46.540 to the guys

00:13:46.880 from the

00:13:47.180 all in

00:13:47.540 podcast

00:13:47.900 you know

00:13:48.280 them

00:13:48.520 and they

00:13:49.260 were saying

00:13:49.800 you know

00:13:50.160 name a

00:13:51.200 politician

00:13:51.600 you like

00:13:52.200 I was like

00:13:53.340 you're gonna

00:13:54.460 have to play

00:13:55.040 the jeopardy

00:13:55.740 sounds

00:13:56.220 you know

00:13:58.400 it's really

00:13:59.320 hard to think

00:14:00.060 about somebody

00:14:00.700 yes there

00:14:01.220 are some

00:14:01.700 but you gotta

00:14:02.820 really think

00:14:03.300 about it

00:14:03.780 because we've

00:14:04.600 created this

00:14:05.260 congressional system

00:14:07.080 that produces

00:14:08.700 Kardashians

00:14:09.480 it's people who

00:14:11.400 want to become

00:14:11.880 famous

00:14:12.440 look at AOC

00:14:13.180 she doesn't

00:14:13.560 want to govern

00:14:14.140 she wants to

00:14:15.080 be famous

00:14:15.740 that's what

00:14:16.320 she wants

00:14:16.880 she's on

00:14:17.900 Instagram all

00:14:18.640 the time

00:14:18.960 looking at

00:14:19.460 herself

00:14:19.740 which is

00:14:20.100 just the

00:14:20.480 vainest app

00:14:21.400 it's just

00:14:22.060 the vainest

00:14:22.580 of the apps

00:14:23.080 because she

00:14:24.040 wants you

00:14:24.320 to be

00:14:24.560 looking at

00:14:25.040 her

00:14:25.200 half of

00:14:25.660 them

00:14:25.780 are posting

00:14:26.180 pictures

00:14:26.540 of their

00:14:26.880 bottoms

00:14:27.300 who wants

00:14:27.760 to look

00:14:28.080 at anyone's

00:14:28.780 ass

00:14:29.240 anyway

00:14:30.340 that's

00:14:32.360 they're using

00:14:32.780 please don't

00:14:33.420 answer that

00:14:34.080 they're using

00:14:37.520 it as a

00:14:37.960 springboard

00:14:38.680 for attention

00:14:40.360 they don't

00:14:41.180 actually want

00:14:41.600 to govern

00:14:41.920 us

00:14:42.260 you know

00:14:42.560 and they

00:14:42.740 want to

00:14:43.060 parlay it

00:14:43.520 into money

00:14:44.120 and use

00:14:44.940 all their

00:14:45.240 followers

00:14:45.740 and feel

00:14:46.460 like they

00:14:46.840 matter

00:14:47.200 with their

00:14:47.680 woke

00:14:48.000 ideology

00:14:48.680 because it's

00:14:49.120 mostly on

00:14:49.580 the left

00:14:49.920 there's

00:14:50.260 some on

00:14:50.600 the right

00:14:50.900 so that's

00:14:52.220 why we have

00:14:52.620 no one

00:14:52.920 we can

00:14:53.140 look up

00:14:53.400 to

00:14:53.560 there's

00:14:54.440 no one

00:14:54.820 in politics

00:14:55.320 you should

00:14:55.620 look up

00:14:55.900 to

00:14:55.980 we really

00:14:56.560 need to

00:14:56.840 look outside

00:14:57.280 of it

00:14:57.540 for our

00:14:57.940 leaders

00:14:58.200 what's

00:14:58.920 interesting

00:14:59.320 you don't

00:14:59.600 have to

00:14:59.820 answer this

00:15:00.220 question if

00:15:00.680 you don't

00:15:00.900 want but

00:15:01.460 just given

00:15:01.960 the pretty

00:15:03.220 amazing trajectory

00:15:04.140 of your own

00:15:04.700 life

00:15:05.080 you're a lawyer

00:15:05.780 in DC

00:15:06.160 like an actual

00:15:06.820 lawyer not a

00:15:07.420 TV lawyer

00:15:07.980 and then you

00:15:09.020 become you

00:15:09.740 know like the

00:15:10.020 most famous

00:15:10.460 person in

00:15:10.960 television

00:15:11.460 I mean that

00:15:13.380 actually happened

00:15:14.100 to you

00:15:14.460 you became

00:15:14.860 incredibly famous

00:15:15.940 I don't think

00:15:16.320 you set out

00:15:16.740 to be

00:15:17.020 you're a

00:15:17.320 lawyer

00:15:17.560 did that

00:15:19.220 experience

00:15:19.720 shape the

00:15:20.300 views that

00:15:20.720 you just

00:15:21.240 articulated

00:15:22.380 yes because

00:15:25.500 I never was

00:15:27.000 attracted to

00:15:27.580 fame if

00:15:28.780 anything it

00:15:29.140 was a

00:15:29.360 downside of

00:15:30.060 becoming more

00:15:30.720 popular in

00:15:31.480 what we do

00:15:32.040 right it's a

00:15:33.280 blessing in some

00:15:33.940 ways right because

00:15:34.560 people follow you

00:15:35.260 and they show up

00:15:35.860 and this is this

00:15:37.140 is a blessing

00:15:37.660 but the downside

00:15:38.940 is you lose

00:15:40.340 your anonymity

00:15:41.200 you lose your

00:15:41.900 privacy and

00:15:43.580 it's just another

00:15:44.660 false idol and

00:15:46.400 you really can't

00:15:47.580 fall into that

00:15:48.400 because otherwise

00:15:49.600 you become an

00:15:50.060 ugly person

00:15:50.620 you truly become

00:15:51.460 an unattractive

00:15:52.300 person and so

00:15:53.700 as I became

00:15:54.480 more well known

00:15:55.320 Doug and I

00:15:55.820 started to get

00:15:56.280 invited to more

00:15:57.460 fancy things

00:15:58.420 especially after

00:15:59.540 that debate with

00:16:00.140 Trump the left

00:16:01.260 loved me

00:16:01.880 remember that

00:16:02.560 and they started

00:16:04.240 inviting me to all

00:16:04.960 these fancy parties

00:16:05.920 and I was like

00:16:06.520 sure I guess I'll

00:16:08.000 go to this you

00:16:08.820 know huge Hollywood

00:16:09.800 party and meet all

00:16:10.600 these A-list stars

00:16:11.380 and see what that's

00:16:12.060 like I'll tell you

00:16:12.980 what it was like

00:16:13.480 torture it was

00:16:16.080 torture I felt

00:16:18.200 around them the

00:16:19.140 same you guys

00:16:19.840 would feel around

00:16:20.520 them I didn't know

00:16:21.700 what to say to

00:16:22.280 them I had

00:16:23.000 absolutely nothing

00:16:23.660 in common with

00:16:24.360 them it seemed

00:16:25.320 like a bunch of

00:16:25.940 vapid empty

00:16:27.180 people who only

00:16:28.140 wanted to sneak

00:16:28.920 a peek around me

00:16:29.700 to see who else

00:16:30.300 was there or

00:16:31.260 over there in

00:16:32.040 the mirror and

00:16:33.240 there was absolutely

00:16:34.500 nothing of consequence

00:16:35.240 to discuss with

00:16:35.980 anyone there who

00:16:37.260 they're obsessed

00:16:37.960 with their latest

00:16:38.520 movie or what role

00:16:39.680 they might get

00:16:40.120 nominated for all

00:16:40.820 I could think was

00:16:41.540 where is the

00:16:42.540 accountant who

00:16:43.440 planned this thing

00:16:44.220 who will talk to

00:16:44.920 me like a real

00:16:45.960 person so I

00:16:48.060 didn't enjoy

00:16:48.560 it and I

00:16:48.940 recognized that

00:16:49.560 it was false

00:16:50.140 you know that

00:16:50.740 it wasn't real

00:16:51.720 and I was always

00:16:52.640 very glad that I

00:16:53.200 had Doug with me

00:16:53.820 for these events

00:16:54.420 because he's very

00:16:55.680 grounded very

00:16:56.640 normal and I

00:16:58.240 would say one of

00:16:59.120 the biggest blessings

00:16:59.820 of sort of that

00:17:00.480 period of my life

00:17:01.680 ending was getting

00:17:03.320 away from those

00:17:03.860 people so you

00:17:05.560 didn't feel that's

00:17:06.640 just interesting

00:17:07.360 because a lot of

00:17:08.080 people who you

00:17:09.660 know go through

00:17:10.020 different periods

00:17:10.520 in their lives

00:17:11.020 like they're always

00:17:12.200 hoping to get back

00:17:13.100 to the Oscar

00:17:13.720 party oh god no

00:17:14.700 oh god no

00:17:15.680 no I mean I

00:17:17.160 went oh this

00:17:18.680 is another one

00:17:19.160 I went to the

00:17:20.340 Met Gala

00:17:21.220 Anna Wintour

00:17:22.880 I mean you could

00:17:24.300 freeze ice on her

00:17:25.100 ass

00:17:25.420 she so I went

00:17:28.520 she had me meet

00:17:29.640 with her at her

00:17:30.420 tower downtown

00:17:31.540 before this event

00:17:32.980 and it was she

00:17:34.420 thinks she's a

00:17:35.060 head of state this

00:17:35.800 woman I mean I'm

00:17:37.080 walking down the

00:17:37.880 hallway to go into

00:17:38.980 her suite and you've

00:17:40.760 got like 10 guys

00:17:42.200 with the Janet

00:17:42.740 Jackson headset

00:17:43.840 like and she's

00:17:44.740 we're walking

00:17:45.340 we're 10 feet

00:17:46.100 we're 5 feet

00:17:46.680 I'm like no one

00:17:48.160 wants to kill Anna

00:17:48.780 Wintour so just

00:17:49.720 like stop and you

00:17:51.740 get in there and

00:17:52.340 she's of course

00:17:52.780 eating like two

00:17:53.660 peas because she

00:17:55.080 has absolutely no

00:17:55.800 you're not allowed

00:17:56.140 to have any body

00:17:56.940 fat in fashion and

00:17:58.680 then she starts

00:18:00.360 lecturing me about

00:18:01.140 politics trying to

00:18:01.960 figure out whether

00:18:02.520 I'm pro-life trying

00:18:03.420 to figure out whether

00:18:04.000 I'm pro-church

00:18:04.520 like what business

00:18:06.480 is of yours

00:18:07.340 anyway it was

00:18:09.140 painful and the Met

00:18:10.060 Gala was downright

00:18:11.020 painful and all

00:18:11.700 these celebrities

00:18:12.340 who are all over

00:18:13.220 the Oscars and

00:18:14.080 these Academy Awards

00:18:15.040 and Golden Globes

00:18:16.300 lecturing us on how

00:18:17.080 to be better people

00:18:17.760 are in the ladies

00:18:19.040 room snorting coke

00:18:20.800 and dry humping

00:18:22.280 one another while

00:18:23.580 their spouses are

00:18:24.320 out there with my

00:18:25.260 own eyes and my

00:18:26.260 husband's all names

00:18:27.660 you would know

00:18:28.340 smoking in the Met

00:18:30.340 with like some of

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00:18:33.200 absolutely totally

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00:20:13.800 wow that is such a

00:20:30.060 vivid picture so I've

00:20:33.340 heard you report on the

00:20:34.480 Epstein story many times

00:20:35.820 and you never seem

00:20:36.600 shocked is this why

00:20:37.900 oh no I mean there's a

00:20:39.620 reason that that stayed

00:20:40.480 quiet for so long and I'm

00:20:42.340 you know there are a lot

00:20:42.960 of people who are still

00:20:43.620 quaking in their booths

00:20:44.740 scared to death about what

00:20:46.940 may come out you know and

00:20:47.900 I said this on my show and

00:20:49.640 I'll say it to you all too

00:20:50.780 it's not that Jeffrey Epstein

00:20:53.680 is alive I want to clarify

00:20:55.300 that at least not to my

00:20:56.320 knowledge but you will be

00:20:58.680 hearing from Jeffrey Epstein

00:21:00.680 I think at some point in the

00:21:01.780 next 12 months and I know

00:21:03.840 the person who is going to

00:21:05.340 bring it to you and I've

00:21:06.480 heard the thing myself this

00:21:09.220 is not BS you'll see

00:21:11.160 so without without divulging

00:21:16.120 you know the details that you

00:21:18.660 can't divulge and I should

00:21:20.720 just say I never I didn't

00:21:21.820 know what to think of that

00:21:22.540 story and I became I got to

00:21:24.100 know his brother pretty well

00:21:25.160 and yeah and I'm I think he

00:21:26.840 was murdered that's my view

00:21:28.100 yeah I never thought I would

00:21:29.340 think that but I do think

00:21:30.440 that um but how big is that

00:21:33.520 story do you think the one

00:21:35.620 that I'm talking about well

00:21:36.580 the Epstein story itself I

00:21:38.000 mean oh I mean I think it's

00:21:39.360 got tentacles everywhere I

00:21:40.740 mean I I really do think that

00:21:42.200 absolutely disgusting not just

00:21:44.740 I mean Jeffrey Epstein liked

00:21:45.940 young girls but he didn't

00:21:47.620 like eight-year-olds right but

00:21:49.340 I think that there are

00:21:50.200 multiple people in the

00:21:51.520 Hollywood industry in

00:21:52.280 particular who do yes ew thank

00:21:55.280 you and I think the same

00:21:57.000 people who are behind some of

00:21:58.220 the films that we seem see

00:21:59.420 right now where this starts

00:22:00.380 to get normalized in a way

00:22:01.940 where you know there's a lot

00:22:04.120 of sort of messaging in these

00:22:05.360 films you can't avoid it like

00:22:06.840 more and more it's getting

00:22:07.800 shoved down your throat they

00:22:09.560 start with like gay romances

00:22:12.400 in your face all over

00:22:13.740 Broadway like deep tongue

00:22:15.300 kissing all right I love my

00:22:17.540 gay friends but that's a lot

00:22:18.680 and then next thing you know

00:22:20.180 every man turns into a woman

00:22:21.560 in these productions whether

00:22:23.060 it's Hollywood or on the big

00:22:24.080 stage and it's not that you

00:22:25.640 have to be a pedophile to be you

00:22:27.180 know or you have to it's not

00:22:28.120 that gay people are more

00:22:28.960 likely to be pedophiles but if

00:22:30.700 you see these guys who are

00:22:32.220 trying to change the messaging

00:22:33.220 on pedophilia they use our

00:22:35.680 openness to people who happen

00:22:37.120 to be LGBTQ as the window to

00:22:39.800 get in like we're just on that

00:22:40.820 spectrum that's just us we're

00:22:42.800 just minor attracted people it's

00:22:44.660 nothing to worry about like it's

00:22:45.920 just another fetish that's all

00:22:47.320 it is yeah well I mean it's dark

00:22:50.580 so I I do think it's much more

00:22:53.380 widespread than people

00:22:55.140 understand and I had Corey

00:22:56.720 Feldman tell me that directly in

00:22:58.220 a heated conversation I had with

00:22:59.820 him five years ago

00:23:00.540 heated in what way he wanted

00:23:03.140 people to talk about this yeah

00:23:05.040 you know he grew up as a child

00:23:06.320 actor you saw what happened with

00:23:08.140 Nickelodeon you know I had some

00:23:10.400 of those kids on my show they

00:23:11.440 grew up at this with Nickelodeon

00:23:13.080 who didn't have their kids watch

00:23:14.060 Nickelodeon did you have any idea

00:23:15.960 it was such a perv fest with these

00:23:18.040 people taking advantage of young

00:23:19.340 kids and like pedophile after

00:23:21.000 pedophile and you know child

00:23:22.540 pornography it was absolutely

00:23:24.520 disgusting what a place to send

00:23:26.260 your child and the people running

00:23:27.760 it accused of pushing these

00:23:30.260 disgusting messages into our kids

00:23:32.260 television programming you look at

00:23:34.360 what that guy did to Ariana Grande

00:23:35.720 when she was a star on Nickelodeon

00:23:37.220 completely sexualized this girl

00:23:39.040 when she was 15 years old writhing

00:23:41.100 around on the bed like she was a

00:23:42.640 porn star so I just think there are a

00:23:44.840 lot of there are a lot of perverts

00:23:46.120 out there who control a lot of our

00:23:48.540 media whether it's the small screen

00:23:49.940 of the big screen and this is all

00:23:51.920 part of it's in a way it's like

00:23:53.540 grooming us getting a used to this

00:23:56.000 kind of stuff so when they take the

00:23:57.800 next step we're okay with it and

00:23:59.940 not to mention what's happening in

00:24:00.960 our children's libraries at school

00:24:02.340 right so I keep reading it there's

00:24:06.240 like a book-burning campaign against

00:24:08.300 great children's literature yeah no I

00:24:12.620 mean if great children's literature

00:24:14.560 includes this stuff we're in a lot of

00:24:17.060 trouble one of the most disgusting

00:24:19.900 things I've seen all year is 60

00:24:21.340 minutes when they had on moms for

00:24:22.920 liberty and Scott Pelley who is a

00:24:25.580 disgusting dishonest broker tried to

00:24:28.500 tell wait wait do you say and I think

00:24:31.060 I'm quoting Scott Pelley is a

00:24:32.440 disgusting dishonest broker correct

00:24:34.240 yes he's about as honest as his

00:24:36.100 friend Leslie Stahl who said the

00:24:37.400 laptop can't be verified it can't be

00:24:39.840 verified so he's got the moms for

00:24:42.440 liberty gals there and he's trying to

00:24:44.200 tell them that we are not seeing books

00:24:46.960 in K through 12 education that talk

00:24:49.440 about forgive me anal sex that talk

00:24:51.960 about the specifics of heterosex that

00:24:55.020 offer absolutely disgusting sex tips to

00:24:57.820 kids who are 10 and I've seen it with my

00:25:00.800 own eyes you guys have seen enough of

00:25:02.340 this out there with parents outraged at

00:25:04.200 school board meetings raising hell over

00:25:06.220 this to know Scott Pelley has his head

00:25:08.660 up his rear end it's happening and his

00:25:11.440 denial is hashtag part of the problem so

00:25:14.440 it I mean you've spent now I think a

00:25:18.020 couple decades in in or around the

00:25:20.500 American news media how is your so when

00:25:23.400 you first got into it contrast the

00:25:25.540 opinions you had of it then to the ones

00:25:27.120 you have now like what are your

00:25:28.100 conclusions oh wow I mean so much has

00:25:30.200 changed I mean when I got into news it

00:25:33.060 was 2003 or 4 and I was an unhappy

00:25:37.620 lawyer like I was done with the law and

00:25:40.200 I just wanted to try broadcast

00:25:41.880 journalism thought it would be really

00:25:42.940 fun thought it would use some of my

00:25:44.120 skills so I didn't care I was like I

00:25:47.000 got my interview at Fox and I went in

00:25:48.660 and Roger Ailes is number two guy was

00:25:50.160 like everyone wants to work for us now

00:25:53.040 that we're number one I was like they're

00:25:55.200 number one holy shit I'm never gonna get

00:25:56.500 this job I had no idea I didn't care I

00:25:59.660 wasn't about ideology I didn't you know

00:26:01.480 so I didn't know much I didn't know much

00:26:04.680 about the news I wasn't political when I

00:26:06.600 was a lawyer you have no time to be

00:26:08.300 anything other than a lawyer you're not

00:26:09.880 thinking about politics unless you're a

00:26:11.120 true DC lawyer like a lobbyist I was a

00:26:13.460 litigator trying cases for big

00:26:15.180 corporations and so it wasn't until I

00:26:17.960 started getting you know neck deep into

00:26:20.180 it that I realized how things worked and

00:26:22.420 thankfully I did grow up at Fox so I

00:26:24.460 never had the left-wing indoctrination

00:26:26.560 shoved on me and then in the past five

00:26:30.420 to ten years the ground has shifted under

00:26:32.620 all of our feet where I used to consider

00:26:34.820 myself you know center-right moderate and

00:26:39.740 now if you take one of those tests what

00:26:41.680 are you online I'm a far-right

00:26:43.440 conservative it's just this is what

00:26:46.580 happens I think I actually think the term

00:26:48.740 is dangerous extremist yeah I'm a

00:26:50.880 dangerous threat to democracy nice to

00:26:53.200 see you here well I definitely am that's

00:26:58.200 interesting so is that that you've

00:27:00.220 changed I mean you've seen a lot a lot I

00:27:03.260 know or that the definitions have

00:27:06.000 changed Tucker let me I'll give you one

00:27:08.040 example you know I used to fall for

00:27:13.240 believe in some of the woke nonsense

00:27:15.880 that's being shoved down our throats now

00:27:17.740 when it was just baby level right now it's

00:27:21.780 like grown into huge monster level but I

00:27:25.140 was one of the people on Fox defending the

00:27:28.200 whole transgender thing back in like 2013

00:27:30.940 and that's because like most people I

00:27:34.640 wanted to be empathetic I didn't want to

00:27:36.140 be nasty I didn't want to be bullying

00:27:37.460 and it was a very small problem back

00:27:39.680 then which so this seemed like an

00:27:41.640 appropriate reaction to it same thing on

00:27:44.600 the race stuff you know I would get very

00:27:47.300 upset when they would attack me for being

00:27:50.020 an alleged racist you know one time

00:27:52.000 there's a whole bunch of articles about

00:27:53.380 me being an alleged racist because I saw

00:27:55.940 these gangs beating up a woman and I said

00:27:57.840 these are thugs what a bunch of thugs

00:27:59.660 cue a week of media stories about what a

00:28:02.040 racist I was I was rattled I was upset I

00:28:05.240 was like oh my god I guess I can't use

00:28:06.480 the word thug I mean now I'm like they're

00:28:08.680 thugs right it's like it takes a while

00:28:12.000 yes so I needed that thicker skin and on

00:28:15.660 the gender stuff I mean I've completely

00:28:17.320 reversed myself and I see it entirely

00:28:19.620 differently so it's just with some growth

00:28:21.700 and while they've gotten more pernicious and

00:28:25.000 I've been paying attention my worldview on

00:28:26.740 these issues has entirely changed well but I

00:28:28.340 would also say that like a lot of people I

00:28:30.340 bet a lot of people in this room you had

00:28:33.300 your decency left leveraged against you yeah

00:28:37.200 you know you had the moral advantage but

00:28:40.680 the political disadvantage of really

00:28:42.780 sincerely wanting to be a good person and

00:28:44.400 not hurt someone's feelings I mean this is

00:28:47.420 like the way that people who are trying to

00:28:49.980 be good people think like I don't want to

00:28:51.800 hurt other anyone else I don't you know

00:28:54.120 there are a lot of hurting people they

00:28:55.080 don't want to make it worse like you

00:28:56.340 really try to be decent and they take

00:28:58.960 that instinct and they use it against you

00:29:02.320 yes and then you learn there's no amount

00:29:06.140 of subjugation that is okay for them you

00:29:09.840 must be on your knees forever and I do

00:29:13.400 think one of the reasons why can you stop

00:29:16.620 and explain that a little more that's

00:29:18.060 so interesting there's no enough there's

00:29:20.340 not enough ring kissing that you can do

00:29:22.360 because even if you kiss the ring I mean

00:29:25.120 let's go back to the Trump thing so the

00:29:27.240 left loved me after that Trump debate and

00:29:29.080 they thought that I was secretly you know

00:29:30.860 a Trump hater that I was I was a wolf in

00:29:34.460 sheep's clothing at Fox News and I was

00:29:37.060 going to take down the Republican Party

00:29:39.140 all I wanted to do is ask a really hard

00:29:40.920 debate question and I asked one of him

00:29:42.880 and I asked one of everybody just like I

00:29:44.380 had done it all the presidential debates

00:29:45.820 that I moderated so then they started to

00:29:48.540 love me right they're like oh we love you

00:29:49.960 we love you and then I got a job offer at

00:29:51.960 NBC and for all sorts of reasons I left

00:29:53.680 because my time at Fox was done for a

00:29:55.440 number of reasons some of which you may

00:29:56.660 have read about in the paper and so I go

00:29:59.800 over to NBC and the one of the first

00:30:01.380 things I said to them was just in case

00:30:03.200 you're thinking I am a secret liberal

00:30:05.540 waiting to let my liberal flag fly I'm not

00:30:10.100 I'm exactly who you saw me on the air as

00:30:13.320 you know I'm somebody who's more center

00:30:15.280 right in my political beliefs but I try

00:30:17.540 to play it straight on the air fine fine

00:30:19.940 fine do you think that that was my

00:30:21.820 experience when I went over there with

00:30:23.380 those leftists that was not my experience

00:30:25.920 but having said that that experience was

00:30:28.320 a gift to me such a gift to me I learned

00:30:32.040 so much and not just about like okay I

00:30:34.960 got fired so I learned things although I

00:30:36.740 technically wasn't fired my show was

00:30:39.640 canceled but the rest remains a matter of

00:30:41.440 contract mystery been there yeah but I

00:30:46.260 learned this lesson I learned this

00:30:48.340 lesson and I'll take you back to the

00:30:50.120 whole blackface controversy okay if I

00:30:52.180 may so I I the reason my show ended is

00:30:55.080 because we had a conversation on the air

00:30:56.360 about blackface Halloween costumes and I

00:30:58.180 was saying you know when did it become

00:30:59.500 racist because when I grew up in the

00:31:00.580 70s and I remember this was on TV is on

00:31:03.680 the movies it was on like the Christmas

00:31:04.860 specials like I'd seen it wasn't clearly

00:31:07.440 something that all the society was

00:31:08.820 saying don't do this not talking about

00:31:10.880 minstrel face blackface but talking

00:31:12.860 about these Halloween costumes and

00:31:15.200 that's it that's all I said and that was

00:31:17.860 that was the cardinal sin which you

00:31:19.800 didn't burn a cross on the set at all

00:31:21.560 that's not no no and by the way NBC was

00:31:24.020 airing like four shows within two years

00:31:26.300 of that comment with people in blackface

00:31:27.940 so okay I've never worn blackface I was

00:31:32.100 just trying to have a conversation but so

00:31:33.360 but that's irrelevant what I'm trying to

00:31:34.820 say is I learned that these people are

00:31:40.020 not sincere brokers they're not actually

00:31:42.620 outraged over anything I said or Joy Behar

00:31:47.000 would be fired over ABC News because she

00:31:49.020 put her blackface pictures on the air and

00:31:51.180 celebrated it I could go down the list

00:31:54.460 Ted Danson who was starring on NBC at

00:31:56.480 that moment in a show about heaven and

00:31:58.980 hell he wore minstrel show blackface

00:32:02.260 Whoopi Goldberg wrote the skit for him and

00:32:04.060 she too is a host on the view over at ABC

00:32:06.160 scrubs a couple of people wore blackface

00:32:08.980 on the air and they were pretty we could

00:32:10.940 go down the list and so for me it was very

00:32:13.040 eye-opening because at first my instincts

00:32:15.420 were I should go back out on the air and I

00:32:18.560 should explain to people no no no don't be

00:32:21.760 offended I can show you all these examples

00:32:24.040 of what I'm talking about I'm not endorsing

00:32:26.200 it I'm saying I noticed it and it changed and I

00:32:29.540 realized what are you doing these are not

00:32:33.120 people who are honestly mad at you for what

00:32:36.480 you said they're mad at the voice you've

00:32:39.500 been bringing because you probably didn't

00:32:41.620 watch my show at NBC nobody did but I was

00:32:45.920 saying conservative things I was defending

00:32:48.560 Brett Kavanaugh to the hilt I was merciless

00:32:52.000 on these stupid gang rape accusers and all

00:32:55.360 that BS and I do think people were starting

00:32:59.020 to recoil I attacked Jane Fonda brutally on

00:33:01.800 the air in a 20-minute monologue and so what

00:33:06.280 they wanted was my ruination and you cannot

00:33:10.000 bargain with those so no amount of on-the-knee

00:33:12.720 apologies playing their game trying to get

00:33:16.480 along or just be a nice person who tried

00:33:18.840 to look inside and say what did I do I'm

00:33:21.060 willing to self-examine would advance the

00:33:24.180 ball at all and then you finally if you go

00:33:27.980 through something like that graduate to the

00:33:29.380 point of not giving a damn what they say

00:33:33.720 about you and it is liberating

00:33:35.920 this is something he knows nothing about

00:33:41.520 I can just say having spent you know many

00:33:44.760 many many years in television I've never

00:33:47.580 seen crueler or more deceptive behavior

00:33:50.620 toward anyone than what they did to you at

00:33:52.200 NBC and I used to work there and I know

00:33:54.300 that they're loathsome I didn't realize they

00:33:55.700 weren't that loathsome but it sounds like

00:33:59.200 you're saying it's worth the suffering to

00:34:02.180 arrive at that point of liberation yes so

00:34:06.140 that's in the personal and professional

00:34:08.020 lane that that word liberation but I also

00:34:12.320 needed the growth I needed the life lessons

00:34:15.020 and this is one of the reasons why I do

00:34:17.040 believe in cancel culture I believe in my

00:34:19.360 being canceled and I believe in you being

00:34:21.500 canceled I enjoyed it yeah you know because

00:34:25.040 ultimately it separates you from a company

00:34:27.140 that you did not belong at for whatever

00:34:29.220 reason you know the value systems are

00:34:31.240 different and once you get through the

00:34:33.180 trauma you know when you're going through

00:34:34.720 trauma you're not thinking about the life

00:34:36.120 lessons but if you're an introspective

00:34:38.360 person then hopefully at some point you

00:34:39.840 sit back and you reflect on what did it

00:34:41.400 mean for me what did I learn from it and I

00:34:44.260 could say the same thing about you know Fox

00:34:46.000 in my last couple of years there and that

00:34:48.660 that's something you should be thankful for

00:34:50.180 I've grown as a person I've developed

00:34:51.720 muscles I didn't have I can handle

00:34:53.520 additional challenges in a way I never

00:34:55.520 could have before I've gotten closer to

00:34:57.820 who I really am and it's forced me to

00:34:59.920 examine my own values in a way few events

00:35:02.660 will all of that is a gift I love that

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00:36:43.700 I've never learned a single thing sitting on

00:37:00.440 the beach over vacation ever that's right

00:37:03.400 eating french toast in bed has not grown me

00:37:05.620 as a person though I've enjoyed it okay so

00:37:08.160 I have to I just have to ask you since I

00:37:10.580 do think you're the best legal analyst I've

00:37:14.620 ever watched let's just game out not

00:37:18.540 Jeffrey Toobin no he's better on zoom calls

00:37:24.000 but uh he's what a filthy and not just because

00:37:30.960 he's just a filthy person in every way but um

00:37:33.120 it's hard it's really

00:37:34.820 amazing um so let's just say so Trump is

00:37:43.560 at at least tied I think up in a in the

00:37:48.200 electoral count as of today that's my belief

00:37:50.380 based on the numbers that I saw this morning

00:37:51.920 let's say that can you you don't have no idea

00:37:54.140 none of us knows what's gonna happen but

00:37:55.520 let's just say that holds and he wins the

00:37:58.660 election first Tuesday in November

00:38:00.980 which I personally think I'm terrible at

00:38:06.360 predictions I'm always wrong but if I had to

00:38:08.200 bet money on it I would bet that happens

00:38:09.980 what happens then legally with the law

00:38:13.580 fair yes well first of all I know you're

00:38:16.300 going to talk to Charlie Kirk and you should

00:38:17.660 definitely be asking him about the ground

00:38:19.140 game because there's a lot in his hands thank

00:38:22.680 God for Charlie Kirk no but honestly this

00:38:26.040 applies to all of you because the Democrats

00:38:28.760 get out the vote effort is second to none

00:38:30.980 and there can not be any complacency none it

00:38:35.780 really is tight I think Politico had a headline

00:38:38.240 the other day like knife fight in a phone

00:38:40.460 booth and it is that tight um so everybody it

00:38:43.520 can't be in Charlie's hands it can't be in

00:38:45.280 Trump's hands and I mean and I and especially

00:38:47.660 anything resembling us or near a swing state

00:38:50.520 but what happens if he wins is the January

00:38:55.200 6th litigation and the Mar-a-Lago litigation

00:38:57.760 go away instantly because he'll be in charge of

00:39:00.720 the DOJ and he'll pull those attack dogs Jack

00:39:03.040 Smith and his cohorts off of those cases and

00:39:05.260 they're dead they're dead they're not they're not

00:39:07.500 gonna be resurrected so then we have Georgia

00:39:09.920 which is gonna go away because Fannie Willis and

00:39:11.960 Nathan Wade couldn't keep it in their pants so I

00:39:15.020 think she's going to be disqualified on this

00:39:17.060 appeal the trial court judge did not disqualify

00:39:20.100 him but or them but he begged if you read that

00:39:22.780 opinion he begged he said oh please please I have a

00:39:25.800 stench of mendacity fills my courtroom an actual

00:39:29.060 phrase from his opinion not disqualifying he's an

00:39:32.500 elected official she's very popular it's you know

00:39:35.260 Atlanta region so this appellate corps all three of

00:39:39.000 whom are Republican judges are gonna disqualify her I'd

00:39:42.360 be stunned if I'm wrong so that case is going away

00:39:45.240 because there's not gonna be another prosecutor who

00:39:46.460 will take it and that leaves us with New York and our

00:39:51.400 old friend Alvin Bragg and I understand yes boo and you

00:39:56.460 can we can keep it rolling for all those Soros

00:39:58.480 prosecutors who don't want to prosecute any crime unless

00:40:00.800 your name is Donald Trump Alvin Bragg has gotten his

00:40:05.840 conviction they're going to have a sentencing at some

00:40:10.080 point in my right now it's set for after the election and

00:40:12.760 I think the worst case scenario for Trump now is jail

00:40:16.160 time with a suspended sentence meaning he won't have to

00:40:19.900 serve it until an appeal goes up and I think there's no

00:40:23.320 chance that this conviction is going to stand because the

00:40:27.160 Supreme Court ruled in that immunity ruling you guys know

00:40:29.700 about that right they said not only can you not go after a

00:40:32.920 president criminally for most of his official acts but in any

00:40:36.600 case against him you can't introduce evidence of what he did

00:40:40.220 while in the Oval Office well the Alvin Bragg prosecution did a

00:40:43.960 lot of that what was Hope Hicks doing on the stand if they

00:40:46.800 weren't introducing evidence of what Trump was doing while

00:40:48.920 president and she was talking about her time anyway that

00:40:52.120 prosecution has to go at the conviction has to go because the

00:40:56.200 conviction was based in large part on evidence the Supreme

00:40:59.340 Court has said may not be admitted in any case that's just

00:41:01.980 one thing but even the jail time no one not named Donald Trump

00:41:06.140 would get jail time for this and as soon as that judge tries to

00:41:10.120 make this a jail time case he will appeal it up to the first

00:41:13.160 appellate division and I just don't think maybe it'll stand

00:41:16.060 there but once it gets to up to New York State Court of

00:41:18.100 Appeals those are still rational judges those are the judges who

00:41:21.320 threw out the Harvey Weinstein conviction they've got stones and

00:41:25.660 they're not that afraid of politics they're not great it's

00:41:29.560 not like our Supreme Court and I think Trump will prevail so I

00:41:32.800 don't think he spends one day in jail and I certainly don't think

00:41:35.360 there's a judge in the land who would put a sitting president or

00:41:37.440 president-elect in jail.

00:41:42.300 Are there legal mechanisms that Mark Elias and the rest of the

00:41:47.880 Democratic lawyer army can use to stop the electors from certifying

00:41:54.480 Trump president if he wins?

00:41:57.280 They're going to try I don't know exactly how they'll do it they may

00:42:02.120 resurrect this he committed an insurrection I mean they've said that

00:42:05.980 they're going to he committed an insurrection and therefore he can't

00:42:09.000 be on the ballot that ultimately winds up at the US Supreme Court and

00:42:12.360 they're going to kill it so I mean honestly you know when you're when

00:42:15.380 you're feeling down about the state of our politics or our country this is

00:42:19.440 what I do I go to bed at night I get under my blankie and I think

00:42:23.180 about the Supreme Court thank God thank God you have lawyer dreams I do I

00:42:33.300 used to call Chief Justice John Roberts Chief Justice McDreamy until

00:42:36.720 Obamacare he got downgraded I met him at an event one time it was a play in

00:42:43.360 New York at some embassy and I saw him it was one of those things where like

00:42:47.260 you're part of the play as an audience member you kind of stand there and

00:42:49.840 you're having dinner with the cast members and they're acting it was actually

00:42:52.100 very cool and I saw him after it was over and I went up to him and I said

00:42:56.040 nice to meet you Mr. Chief Justice he said nice to meet you Megan and I said

00:43:00.040 I'm a big fan I'm a big fan and he said oh you're the one and I said oh no no I

00:43:04.540 admire you but Obamacare was not a principled decision and Doug was like

00:43:09.680 honey but it wasn't what what what did he say he laughed yeah he's a good guy look

00:43:18.000 he's he's got a different role in his mind on the court than the rest of the

00:43:21.680 justices and you know I agree with it in part but I don't disagree I don't agree

00:43:25.620 with the way he's been ruling but anyway we've got Alito we've got Thomas who

00:43:29.940 seems great like in good in good health we'll see you know I had Gorsuch on the

00:43:35.420 show the other day and I love how anti-regulation he is Gorsuch is hardcore

00:43:39.100 anti-regulation just came out with a book talking about how big the

00:43:41.840 administrative state has gotten I think he would like the Javier Mele point you

00:43:45.700 know he would he would like to cut all the the federal agencies down by a lot so I

00:43:52.160 like him although he is responsible for Bostock the one that said there's a

00:43:56.680 mandate to put trans people in your workplace you can't exclude them based on

00:44:00.540 the basis of being trans and that one's a little stickier anyway we've got a

00:44:04.340 strong Supreme Court right now I've never seen a court like this in my

00:44:07.240 lifetime where it's six three and it's gonna take a lot to unend it unearth it

00:44:12.020 now if they win control of the Senate and the White House and they win

00:44:16.440 control of the Senate by a lot they could get rid of the filibuster well they

00:44:19.900 don't have to it's but already gotten they've already gotten rid of it for

00:44:22.420 Supreme Court justices and they could expand the court potentially and then

00:44:26.980 we'd have to march in the streets endlessly I mean that's civil war banana

00:44:31.540 republic shit that we'd have to fight not not calling for violence but saying

00:44:35.880 this would require every street America civil disobedience absolutely so I mean

00:44:42.000 that is a stated goal they've said that repeatedly getting 16 year olds to vote

00:44:46.940 having millions of illegal aliens vote and expanding the court they've all said

00:44:51.340 that out loud do you think they will try the last one packing it to pack the court

00:44:56.440 depends on what November looks like if they win how big is the victory right you

00:45:05.380 know if it's razor tight I don't think they'd have the guts I I just I don't think so but

00:45:11.060 if she goes in there thinking she has a mandate it's a terrifying thought it could

00:45:18.060 happen it could happen it this is not Trump's locked up he doesn't have it locked up yet so

00:45:26.260 people need to be really clear about what could be coming our way if she wins and get to the

00:45:34.140 polls get your friends to the polls get a bus and get everyone you know in swing states to the polls

00:45:41.520 and if she wins and thinks she has a mandate and starts doing the things she said she would do go

00:45:47.500 look at her ACLU questionnaire that to his credit Andrew Kaczynski over at CNN unearthed and see what

00:45:53.620 she wants to do about defunding ICE and making the entire country a sanctuary city she said it

00:46:00.860 using your taxpayer dollars to fund sex change operations for prisoners and illegal immigrants

00:46:08.100 the country will change dramatically and we'll have to do use every tool in our arsenal to fight it and

00:46:15.040 that would definitely include lawfare you know challenges with the current Supreme Court to stop what

00:46:20.420 they're going to try to do to it how would you assess her record in office as say attorney general

00:46:28.140 in the state of California she's she refers to that a lot my read is a non-lawyer non-legal expert

00:46:32.860 is that she doesn't have limits in her behavior she seems totally happy to prosecute people she doesn't

00:46:41.840 like because she doesn't like them she's your worst nightmare Tucker because she she loves to go after

00:46:48.660 the little guy like the drug users you know people with these small petty crimes and that's what she

00:46:56.800 did trying to convince people she was tough on crime as a San Francisco DA and then as California

00:47:00.900 attorney general and then as soon as she got on the national uh board she abandoned all that started

00:47:06.860 bailing out BLM rioters started to go hardcore the other way backing people like Kim Fox you know the

00:47:14.240 Soros prosecutor in Chicago and so on flipped all the way over the other way and is truly the daughter

00:47:21.420 of a Marxist and has Marxist tendencies herself and is as far left as you can find I mean she's the

00:47:28.040 most leftist presidential candidate we have ever had I think she's farther to the left than Bernie Sanders

00:47:34.880 that's not what I read without his without his charm I read that she was the source of all joy

00:47:40.660 have you have you read that yeah yeah so I hear although they've gotten rid of the joy since they

00:47:48.360 had to kill the cackle the cat memes are my favorite it's still a creative oh my god it's amazing it's

00:47:56.720 amazing have you seen the tiktoks then they're killing cats and they're killing dogs that that's

00:48:04.080 a new tick a new cat they're eating the pets that's really that that was the high point uh in American

00:48:08.460 politics I mean that too um so Kamala Harris as the not to go over what we just saw like in the last

00:48:19.940 two months but how exactly did she become the democratic nominee without anyone voting for her is that

00:48:25.620 how can that happen I've never seen somebody so good at failing upward right it's amazing

00:48:32.720 I know you're not allowed to talk about this but she slept her way into California politics

00:48:38.860 it's true I don't say it to be mean I say it because it's true she slept with Willie Brown which

00:48:48.020 is its own skill I gotta say I mean maybe she just found himself he was so full of magnetism he was 30

00:48:53.360 years older than she was I said she had no talents I mean that was not fair

00:48:56.820 and he paved her way he paved her way into California politics he helped her get elected

00:49:06.060 as San Francisco DA and once you're in that system as a far left dem you're good of course you're

00:49:11.380 going to become the senator from that state when the opportunity presents itself never mind the

00:49:15.520 identity politics aspect of it and before you knew it Joe Biden was running around promising people

00:49:20.140 he'd add a black woman to the ticket because James Clyburn said you're not going to win South

00:49:23.940 Carolina unless you do that so he did it now she's our vice president and then he falls apart after

00:49:29.000 the big cover-up and next thing you know she's out there an empty vessel pretending she's the next

00:49:36.060 Obama she do you guys know that there was a report by Mark Halperin who's very tied into these

00:49:43.140 Democrat circles that before the Democratic National Convention speech she was prepped by CAA

00:49:50.360 Creative Artists Agency the biggest Hollywood agency there is Brian Lord who runs it and top

00:49:56.020 Hollywood talent on how to deliver her lines how to nail her speech now what are the odds that she

00:50:02.200 when she was hauled up for those five or six days preparing for the debate didn't have help like that

00:50:05.840 that's what she's got if you're the Republican candidate you show up you've got both of the

00:50:12.280 moderators and your opponent against you you get interrupted in every answer you get fact checked

00:50:16.900 erroneously in every answer you get the moderator's opinion coming at you as a fact check you get

00:50:22.460 follow-ups on everything if you try to dodge or weave it all they will nail you to the floor

00:50:26.480 but if you're Kamala Harris and you've said everything there is to say about fracking and then show up and

00:50:31.380 say I've always been consistent it's thank you madam president the most interesting and newsworthy

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00:51:36.260 so you've got one candidate who shows up with the biggest most powerful Hollywood agency prepping her with voice coaches and the other candidate shows up with two cans of diet coke that doesn't seem like a symmetrical contest and a burger

00:52:06.020 no it's totally unfair and to me it's been so frustrating to watch people Republicans over the past 48 hours say well that's the way it is you have to do better you know that's that's just how it is everybody knows the media is biased this is not the right attitude what happened on that stage on Tuesday night was a complete dereliction of duty by those moderators they completely abandoned all journalistic integrity and principle and it's deadly serious we're talking about a presidential

00:52:36.000 presidential election here they actively inserted themselves to the point where you actually have to wonder whether they made a conscious decision at ABC this is the night we're going to do it we're just going to we're just going to lift the dress up and show them everything that we're not journalists that we are partisan hacks

00:52:52.520 you know I always thought judging by David Muir's abs that he was a great journalist but I

00:52:58.920 who is David Muir anyway you know he's managed to fly under the radar yeah that's one way to put it

00:53:07.420 because he lets his programmers his producers and his content selections speak for his bias you know Media Research Center did a study right before the debate it dropped showing that I think it was 92% of their

00:53:19.360 coverage on Kamala was positive 92 or 93 97% of their coverage on Trump was negative and they said that ABC was the worst of the three nightly newscasts NBC more fair than ABC CBS as well so he got chosen to do the debate and when David Muir was out there without the producers selecting the stories all of which were left you're left to say okay let's see you David Muir who are you and of course we already

00:53:47.840 knew because he has a say on content selection on his show but he really let us freak freak flag fly and and what they did up there I mean I'll just take the one moment which is really driving me insane

00:54:00.400 they asked Trump about his comment that he lost by a whisker recently on a podcast fair question that's fine you can ask him that and Trump says I was being sarcastic

00:54:10.460 he actually fact checked him with I didn't detect any sarcasm

00:54:15.960 what are you are you like one of those emojis from the emoji movie that can detect that's not sarcasm no that's a truth teller

00:54:24.440 that it was the most inappropriate thing I've ever seen and it masqueraded as a fact check and it of course

00:54:32.020 tripped Trump up and just give you one other thing it's another moment of the debate

00:54:36.480 they asked Kamala Harris about the fact that they did nothing about immigration until the last six months

00:54:40.740 right obviously an election ploy to make the numbers look better

00:54:43.880 they turned to her first she does her John Wayne routine like well I was tough on that there border

00:54:49.640 back when I was an AG and now again sure sure Jan

00:54:53.400 well she does have a gun so I kind of get it yeah sure she does

00:54:57.560 so she gives that routine and then she immediately pivots to his rallies stink and people leave

00:55:03.040 and of course for Trump that's like no he can't no here's a liver snap yes I know right and you're

00:55:11.140 like no Trump come back come back I know no don't do it so he did it he did it and then he did and

00:55:19.060 you're like pivot back to immigration this is your best issue this is her worst issue pivot pivot pivot

00:55:23.300 so he starts pivoting and that's when we got into the dogs and the cats

00:55:27.080 okay I mean I mean it is a thing but maybe not our best example like you know the Babylon Bee had a

00:55:38.400 headline the other day saying like Democrats fact check Trump nope no dogs and cats being killed just

00:55:43.200 women and children so he pivots back to immigration with the dogs and the cats fact check not happening

00:55:51.980 another inappropriate fact check this is a this is a matter up for debate right now we've had

00:55:57.080 dozens now at this point of witness testimonials saying it is true and we have one unnamed city

00:56:02.480 manager saying not that I could prove well what that's not that's not a proof that it's not happening

00:56:08.820 another inappropriate fact check so he screws up Trump's momentum and then he interrupts to go to

00:56:14.640 Kamala Harris I'm thinking okay this is it where he's going to go back to her and say the question was

00:56:18.560 why did you wait until six months before no one's given me an answer you know we've done rallies and

00:56:24.260 we've done dogs what's the answer and instead of saying that to her what does he say your response

00:56:30.920 madam Harris madam vice president what that's not the toss so what does she do does she get up there

00:56:36.880 and say let me let me give you an answer let me she says 200 Republicans have endorsed me

00:56:42.300 and now we're off on that course and we never got back well I mean to be fair Dick Cheney was one of

00:56:51.000 them yeah that's right like what do you mean did you ever think you'd wake up in a country where

00:56:56.120 Kamala Harris was bragging about Darth Vader's endorsement like what yeah and they love him now

00:57:03.380 the left loves some Dick Cheney and his horrible daughter the whole thing is like you're blowing my mind

00:57:10.680 of all the Republicans who could endorse yes I'll take Dick Cheney just for the charm alone

00:57:17.440 it's like what it's so true and by the way the left you listen to leftist media and they really

00:57:24.560 think that's going to make a difference like they don't think that that Trump's going to recover

00:57:28.240 from the Dick Cheney endorsement of Kamala Harris or the Liz Cheney a lot of a lot of Liz Cheney

00:57:34.140 Republicans left it's just crazy I mean it is a kind of cleansing moment for the Republican Party

00:57:40.620 actually it's like getting a giant bald splinter out after 40 years do you know what I mean

00:57:45.660 that's like here's what we'll do all the people in our party who love killing people for profit

00:57:51.780 you can have and she's like that's right enjoy we've got a big tent the water's fine but look

00:57:56.980 at the Lincoln Project they're still out there doing these terrible ads about Trump after their

00:58:00.320 pedophilia scandal like what now they survived that there's some guy there who was accused

00:58:06.880 of behaving very inappropriately with young men I don't know exactly how young but the point is

00:58:11.400 they're still Democrats giving them millions of dollars and they're running ads against Trump

00:58:15.980 like he's the bad one you get Bill Kristol and Dick Cheney what a trade so awesome we get Bobby

00:58:21.760 Kennedy I think it's fair um Kinzinger yes so um so just to just to end you're the best I just want

00:58:31.040 to thank you for this conversation it's just put me in a great mood and it's wonderful to see you but

00:58:35.040 I want to um just end on getting your views on a topic that I think is really hopeful and great so

00:58:41.800 you have just painted a devastating portrait of the American news media and you're doing it from a

00:58:48.340 place of deep knowledge and experience I mean you're Megyn Kelly like you're not making you're

00:58:52.780 not guessing about this you work there um but then you leave NBC in the nastiest most dishonest as I

00:58:59.760 said exit I've ever seen never seen anyone treated the way you were treated and then you built this

00:59:05.720 kind of empire by yourself and it's amazing it's an amazing story and it's a tribute to your grit

00:59:13.620 and your talent your native talent but it's also a commentary on like where we're going yeah I mean

00:59:20.960 I'm not I didn't even think to call anybody at NBC News to join on this tour because people don't

00:59:27.280 even know who works there yeah right so maybe your life is a testament to what the future of media will

00:59:35.480 be and maybe that's great thank you my life and yours Tucker I think what we're proving is that

00:59:43.220 the future of media is independent it's a direct relationship between the consumers and the

00:59:50.460 journalist of choice people will make up their minds on an individual basis who do I trust who do I trust

00:59:57.540 for news and information and who don't I trust and more and more especially post-pandemic people are

01:00:03.240 really realizing you can't trust these large corporations they have agendas that they are secretly

01:00:10.240 and not so secretly trying to shove down your throat without owning it you have an individual

01:00:15.480 you can make up your own mind is is she a truth teller is he a truth teller do they take big risks

01:00:20.960 and go against the grain even when it might hurt them do they apologize to me when they got something

01:00:25.540 wrong or own it are they self-deprecating you're like the most successful slash self-deprecating person

01:00:30.900 I know which shows your humility and you want someone with humility telling you about the news because

01:00:35.620 sometimes we do get it wrong and we need to be able to say all right that one not my best that's and the

01:00:40.680 audience is forgiving but you don't want people who are agenda driven especially not with some corporate

01:00:45.840 overlords agenda so it was funny I was listening to this podcast recently and you came up they're very

01:00:52.860 angry at you and um not the first time as a result they were trying to say that you he has no influence

01:01:00.460 that he's very popular but with no influence and this made me laugh so literally you had the white

01:01:06.760 house weighing in on tucker's interview last week okay like that it has absolutely no influence but

01:01:11.960 everyone in the country feels the need to comment on everything he does and on top of that you just

01:01:18.120 look at the don't don't take my word for it because I'm your friend you guys tell me who is more

01:01:23.920 influential tucker carlson or wolf blitzer

01:01:28.400 right truly like who has more sway with an audience right like um I'll take myself like yours truly or

01:01:41.100 like mika brzezinski I like my odds I'm I'm good on that cage match nobody talks about these people

01:01:52.220 now maybe a show here or there will make news but cable news is dead it was a suicide that was

01:01:58.180 assisted by Donald Trump and it was one that needed to happen

01:02:01.460 I can't improve on that and I just I should have said this at the outset in my introduction of you

01:02:13.480 I said what a kind person you were which I think is evidence anyone who listens to you

01:02:17.700 I said what a talented person you are which is obvious that's why you're successful

01:02:21.380 but I forgot to mention the basis of your success and your happiness which is your honesty

01:02:26.620 you're an honest person and I'm grateful for it I'm grateful to be your friend thank you

01:02:31.460 Megan Kelly takes one to know one tucker thank you thank you

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The Tucker Carlson Show - September 13, 2024

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