00:03:35.920I got my first defendants through her.
00:03:38.360And then I tried to help as many as I could, and they started calling me from all over the country, and I represented over 20, and I advised probably close to 100 of J6 defendants.
00:03:52.460I tried to help everybody that I could. And some people I charged nothing. Some I charged a nominal fee, what they could afford. And I'm very proud that I did that. And we did it for all the way up until January.
00:04:11.120I had a trial scheduled for January 21st, 2025, which was canceled because President Trump pardoned people.
00:04:18.940But they were arresting people until December of 2025.
00:04:23.000They would have gone, I mean, to December of 2024.
00:04:25.740They would have gone forever with arresting people.
00:04:29.160So then when President Trump was elected and I did everything that I could to try and get into the DOJ
00:04:36.780because President Trump had expressed that he wanted to get to the bottom of this weaponization
00:04:42.700that was going on. And through also a miracle of God, I was somehow appointed by President Trump
00:04:50.880to be senior counsel to Harmeet Dhillon, who was nominated and confirmed as the assistant
00:04:56.060attorney general for civil rights. And that was my position at DOJ. Amazing. So 10 years before
00:05:04.840You're a rabbi with a congregation in Omaha, and now you're an advisor to the head of the
00:05:12.820civil rights division, Hermit Dillon, who I should say at the outset I've known for decades,
00:05:17.120who was our family lawyer. And I advocated strongly for her to get that job. Not that
00:05:22.700it made any difference, but I certainly wanted her to get that job. And so I should just say
00:05:27.640that up front. I've always been very pro-Hermie Dillon. And so I'm glad that that's where you
00:05:34.860wound up. So what happened then? So I had one agenda when I was in DOJ, and that was to get
00:05:42.760to the bottom of weaponization. One of the things that I was trying to get into government, I thought
00:05:48.440that it would be great if President Trump would appoint me somewhere within the United States
00:05:53.440Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, and that way I could lead the Capitol Siege unit.
00:05:59.200The Capitol Siege unit was this special unit that they created to go after J6ers for four years. Now,
00:06:03.600mind you, there was no BLM riot unit. There was no anti-ice protester unit. They did this special
00:06:10.000for J6, and I could easily, in my mind, come up with at least a billion dollars that this thing
00:06:16.860was funded to, and it drew resources from all over the country, all 50 states, from FBI to DOJ
00:06:23.020to U.S. marshals and local law enforcement and even media propaganda, the press releases that
00:06:29.940were all over. Every local paper was tipped off to every misdemeanor to grandma to destroy their
00:06:37.220lives gratuitously. So I said, you know what? Put me in charge of the capital siege unit. I'm the
00:06:41.640biggest expert on J6 in the DOJ. And let me open it up and let's find out who gave the orders and
00:06:46.520let's find out how this happened and make sure this never happens again. Yes. Yeah, that would
00:06:50.080been a great uh thing you mean it didn't happen they closed the capital siege unit immediately
00:06:55.200and um and that and and they buried all that stuff and it's like i always say like indiana jones and
00:07:00.720the raiders of the lost ark at the end where they just kind of like take the ark and they put it
00:07:04.800into some warehouse so that's where that's where all this stuff is they hope to bury it and um and
00:07:10.880they just want to move on and um so so that wasn't happening so i was in doj and you know i got
00:07:17.280got involved to different assignments. Were you surprised? I was shocked. I was shocked. I was,
00:07:21.760I thought that President Trump as a victim of this would have made this a priority. And I was
00:07:27.640hoping that this would be something. How long did it take for you to discover that it was not a
00:07:31.100priority? You know, a couple of days. A couple of days? Yeah. Yeah. I just, you know, there was
00:07:38.300nobody there who, who kind of shared my sense of urgency. I said, guys, we have only four years to
00:07:44.160do this i mean we have to do this and i you know everybody i my wife and i always joke that we're
00:07:48.880only invited to dinner parties once because you know oh i've been there rabbi you get me started
00:07:57.300on j6 and like i uh i'm never ending and um and i was like even from the very beginning i hi my
00:08:04.340name is jonathan gross to my colleagues you know and j6 like what are we doing about it but not
00:08:08.820just j6 remember my my interest in j6 was because this could happen to anyone this was like you
00:08:14.100know, this was just so bad. So I said, we need to, while President Trump is in office, this is all
00:08:18.600we've got. And not only that, I assume that this is a priority because this is what he campaigned
00:08:22.900on, draining the swamp and ending this kind of weaponization. And this is what I would think his
00:08:27.680base would want. And to get to the bottom of it, because ultimately you look, the J6ers in the end
00:08:32.040of the day, they went to DC and frankly went from the ellipse to the Capitol because President Trump
00:08:37.960told them to. I mean, and President Trump himself is a January sixer. He was charged with one of
00:08:42.900the january 6 charges so i would have thought that this would have been a priority number one
00:08:47.400to to get rid find out what the hell happened and and go after it and just like i said i'm not even
00:08:53.640interested about necessarily going after the bad guys i just i don't want them to work there
00:08:57.680anymore i you know and you know should people go to jail or things like that look that's for
00:09:02.200that's secondary the first thing is to make sure that this cannot happen again you don't have this
00:09:07.920unchecked power of federal prosecutors to be able to do something like this, to demonize
00:09:13.640a whole class of people and use the media to destroy their lives, to taint the jury
00:09:20.100pool, keep it in D.C., to create all kinds of crazy presidential law that if this would
00:09:26.680be applied to anyone, they would say, this is the most unfair process I've ever experienced.
00:09:30.740And the process itself destroys you so that even if you come out innocent on the other
00:09:35.140side, which is almost impossible. But to the extent that you do, Google your name forever and
00:09:39.900nobody believes you. And to the extent that you even were able to be that 1% who defeats the
00:09:45.820government in federal prosecution, then people just say you had a good lawyer or you got off
00:09:50.120on a technicality. They'll still assume your guilt. Nobody will ever. There's this presumption
00:09:53.900of goodwill that still exists for the federal government that if they go after you, then you
00:09:59.520are guilty. And that goes from the minute they show up with the FBI with their guns and lasers
00:10:04.360and knock down your door and then all the press releases come out and the indictment is their
00:10:11.060side of the story and your lawyer tells you, you better not say a word to the media because if you
00:10:16.140do, then the government and the judge will punish you more, which happens, just happened to a guy
00:10:21.720named Michael Castellera, who he's the victim of weaponization and he has to report to prison in
00:10:28.300only a few days. And he said, I'm not going to go silently. And he went on diamond and silk of
00:10:36.500all people who were President Trump's earliest supporters. And he went on their show and he
00:10:42.500had the temerity to accuse the government of weaponization. So the government wrote in the
00:10:48.320sentencing memo when deciding what his punishment would be that he should get punished extra
00:10:52.260because he went on a diamond and silk and he lied.
00:10:57.300And he said that this was a political hit job on him.
00:11:01.260And the judge agreed and gave him an extra year in prison
00:13:44.980And President J.D. Vance just announced maybe a couple weeks ago that there are 870,000 people that they're going to go after for fraud for these PPP loans.
00:13:55.100But basically, the government shut down your business, made you stay at home, made it so you could not earn any money, and then said, oh, but here, we'll give you money.
00:14:04.220And lo and behold, some of those people, they're going to say now, well, that was fraud.
00:14:07.520So this woman, Tiawana Brown, they charged her federally for fraud for the PPP loans.
00:14:14.200No jury is going to remember what the circumstances were from 2021.
00:14:19.640And she – they charged her and her daughters with – they charged Tijuana Brown with only $20,000 of fraud for these PPP loans, which is ridiculous that the federal government even went after it.
00:14:30.460That alone should tip you off that – and the fact that she's a political person should tip you off that there's weaponization afoot.
00:14:36.060And she went on TV and she said this is political.
00:14:46.440She has to report for 10 months in federal prison for $20,000 of alleged fraud on these PPP loans, which once again, it was basically a tripwire.
00:15:08.420It's called the trial penalty, is that they said, had you pled, we would have given you probation.
00:15:13.800But because you decided you had the temerity to exercise your constitutional right to a trial by jury, you caused more time for the court, more time for the prosecutor.
00:15:23.220We're giving you more jail time for that.
00:15:25.640And I have a lawsuit right now that is talking about how I'm suing Todd Blanche, and we could talk about that for these coercive plea deals, specifically that they did to J6ers.
00:15:39.900But this is a Stalinist tactic that the government is using where they coerce plea deals out of people.
00:15:46.380It's routine. Every person who's ever been indicted for a federal crime knows that your lawyer will say to you, hey, the government says if you don't fight this and you don't go to trial, you will get less time in jail or no time in jail.
00:16:04.880Maybe we'll let you off and we'll just charge you with a felony.
00:16:07.440So you'll be branded for life a felon.
00:16:09.420You'll have restitution, but maybe less restitution that you'll have to pay money to like Wells Fargo or something for the rest of your life.
00:16:15.740But at least you won't have to spend more time in prison.
00:16:19.180And some people say, no, I'm not going to do that.
00:16:26.340So you say, fine, I'm going to do it anyway.
00:16:27.620So then the government says, oh, yeah, well, your wife worked for the business, didn't she?
00:16:31.260be a shame if she became a co-conspirator and your children were orphaned. So then they get
00:16:38.240a lot of people to plea and they say- This is so evil.
00:16:40.640It happens routinely. Nobody disputes this either. Okay. So I guess we'll skip to this.
00:16:47.600President Trump was being interviewed, I think in June of this year by MSNBC. It was right after
00:16:54.380that whole idea for one minute, they said, we're going to try and compensate the J6ers. And then,
00:16:58.800everybody went crazy. So then he was on MSNBC and they asked him about it. And she said,
00:17:03.800why should these people get compensated? So President Trump said, these people,
00:17:07.700these were his words, were destroyed by weaponization and dirty cops. So then she
00:17:12.820said, yeah, but they all pleaded guilty. And what she means by that is they all signed a statement
00:17:17.220and swore under penalty of perjury that I'm guilty of whatever the government says I'm guilty of.
00:17:22.800And they signed those statements and went up in court and said, yes, I swear that that's true.
00:17:27.320So obviously they're guilty. So President Trump, who's not an idiot, he said, of course they did. They were frightened. They were facing 50 years in prison for misdemeanor charges. So that's why, obviously, they pled guilty, not because they were actually guilty. And everybody should know that, especially liberals and leftists who claim that they believe in these things.
00:17:47.920So President Trump said, quote, J-6ers were destroyed by weaponization and dirty cops.
00:17:52.800So the next day, I started a group with J-6ers, and the group is called J-6ers were destroyed by weaponization.
00:17:58.940And we filed a lawsuit called J-6ers were destroyed by weaponization v. Blanche.
00:18:04.140And we are not asking for money in that lawsuit.
00:18:07.200All we are asking is that the government investigate those plea deals to the extent that any is found to be coercive, then they should void those plea deals.
00:18:16.060and I, but basically we'll just settle for an investigation
00:18:21.360and I listed in the lawsuit, it's a 60-page lawsuit
00:18:24.580and I listed all these different Stalinist tactics
00:26:15.460But it didn't change when President Trump became president, and it didn't change when Biden. It's all the same.
00:26:21.920So how do you think, since you were there for it, you're at DOJ, how did a lifelong Democrat who worked in the most corrupt division in the country, SDNY, how did that guy become attorney general?
00:26:37.500Well, by the way, it gets worse because this is the way that it works. You're in those offices and then you leave them and you go to white collar defense at the high level. You see, white collar defense at the high level, in my opinion, is just lobbying because they hire all of the former prosecutors.
00:26:55.160So then you hire the former prosecutors
00:28:56.760Then, you know, you're making 250 a year maybe
00:28:59.180with all your benefits and all the prestige that goes along.
00:29:01.740Then, that on your resume, you go to the white-collar firms,
00:29:05.380and then you can work as, you know, on the other side of that,
00:29:08.660and you're making millions of dollars from clients
00:29:11.120like President Trump and others and all these other people.
00:29:13.520And the more they weaponize, the better businesses.
00:29:15.320So you're not against weaponization and then, and you make money because, and you're a prestigious firm because you're able to get favorable plea deals for your client because you know the people involved. That's why you hire those firms. And then, then you go from those jobs, sometimes back to the DOJ. Other times you get appointed to high level positions like Todd Blanche. And that's, that's where he is and how he got to where he is.
00:29:36.040I always said, this is the best you could do. You couldn't find anyone who was part of the program. And frankly, they should have hired somebody older who is at the end of their career, who's not afraid of the Attorney Grievance Commission taking away their bar license or is not afraid of getting smeared in the media and is not afraid of what this will do to your career.
00:29:56.400have somebody at the end of their career who's been with you since day one, somebody who's been
00:30:01.500with you since 2015 or earlier. Why would you take somebody who came on board literally at the last
00:30:08.720moment? We think about that. Like, where was Todd Blanchard on January 6th, 2021? Was he with
00:30:13.820President Trump, you know, in Washington? Of course not. He was sitting in New York. I mean,
00:30:18.680he didn't have anything to do with the people who actually supported President Trump, who would do
00:30:22.720anything for president trump to so he could uh fulfill his agenda so and that's routine if you
00:30:28.460go i would walk through the halls of doj and there are people there who worked for things like law
00:30:34.320fair.com which is a left-wing thing the brookings institute which is another left-wing thing
00:30:40.120imagine walking through joe biden or kamala harris doj and finding like high-level attorneys from
00:30:47.380turning point usa who are it would never happen right well here's a truth a hard truth that
00:30:53.420modern technology is not yet solved you can't be everywhere simultaneously so your land expensive
00:30:58.640gear you got your loved ones could be miles away you're not with them but you're still responsible
00:31:04.880for protecting all of them so what do you do well maybe you get defend defend is a security system
00:31:11.720that runs on cellular networks not wi-fi or electrical outlets and it secures any location
00:31:17.600Whether you're watching over your house, your work site,
00:31:20.620your anchor's in the middle of nowhere,
00:31:22.200you are fully connected straight from your cell phone.
00:31:25.040You just mount it, you open the Defend app,
00:35:37.620Number one, I started writing reports and I was circulating them via the email so they could all be FOIA'd because I said, we need to be looking into these things.
00:35:48.220And I would point out all of these stuff, nothing from anything sensitive or anything like that.
00:35:54.000Everything was from my own knowledge as a J6 attorney about what we should be looking into.
00:36:01.860And so I put out a couple and I was told under no uncertain terms.
00:36:06.540I was called in somebody's office and he said, you need to pause.
00:36:31.140like no looking into the response to january 6th to no kind of helping the victims of it
00:36:38.760they knew i was crazy about january 6th and they said look it's not what you're here for
00:36:43.260no january 6th it's not your job so um so i so i did that uh the reports and the other thing that
00:36:51.480i did were you surprised by this yes i was very shocked and i told them that i said i'm shocked
00:36:55.560What are we here for? And even later, as the story goes, you'll see I express that. So I was shocked. And then the other thing that I did was I started bringing victims of weaponization, including January Sixers, into the office.
00:37:15.620I had access to Main Justice, which is the main building, the R.F. Kennedy, you know, off it, you know, Main Justice building.
00:40:00.540So President Trump pardoned Henry Queller, rightly, in my opinion.
00:40:05.020And, but nobody in the Southern District of Texas got punished.
00:40:10.980Obviously, somebody in the Southern District of Texas or in Washington, D.C., gave the order to go after a congressman and his wife because they broke with the Democrats on immigration.
00:44:26.900One of the things it tells you is that so many people in this country
00:44:30.300can be freed from this political persecution with the stroke of a pen.
00:44:36.280They'll tell you, oh, it's a process. You need to go here. You need to fill out your pardon application. It needs to go through this office. And that it is a lie from the very top, either from the White House or from the top of DOJ. They could, with a stroke of a pen, end these things. And they're not.
00:44:50.800Pam Bondi, to her credit, ended that case when she heard about it from Marjorie Taylor
00:46:13.340He's on very, very strict probation conditions.
00:46:16.380So now this poor man who, under necessity, created something and helped people essentially, didn't break any laws, was politically targeted under Biden, continued under Trump, spent his time in prison, and now is on probation and is paying restitution for what he did.
00:46:33.860President Trump could get rid of that with a stroke of a pen.
00:46:36.820And I'll usually say this at the end of interviews.
00:49:49.200And that has allowed an entire economy to grow up where lawyers approach desperate families and say, for this amount of money, you know, $250,000, half a million dollars, a million dollars, I will get you a pardon.
00:50:03.160And that has allowed people like Alan Dershowitz and a bunch of others, Brett Tolman, to start this sideline business getting pardons and getting rich doing it.
00:50:15.280And I feel like that's not a justice system.
00:50:19.200uh you said it it's created the economy they and by the way so many people are implicated in this
00:50:26.600right now and i don't know what assurances they have that if when there's a new administration
00:50:31.180the doj is not going to turn around and indict all of those people and exactly but but here's
00:50:36.880the thing but is that the system as it is now that is a hundred percent what's going on right now
00:50:41.660and i will tell you yes you can pay for access but you can't necessarily pay for results well
00:50:48.240So usually, yeah, hundreds of thousands of dollars
00:50:51.020and you just hope, and there's no invoice,
00:50:53.420there's no bill, it's just 100,000, 500,000.
00:53:41.040So these are people who want to live near each other because they have something in common, which I think was allowed in the United States, and there are plenty of communities.
00:53:49.200In fact, honestly, some of the best communities, of which I'm not a part and not allowed in, but some of our best communities are like that.
00:53:55.440And the government is going after them on what grounds?
00:54:19.340There's one civil lawsuit against them of a lady who tried to join the membership organization of 1,000 people.
00:54:25.240And she was a leftist activist, and they declined to let her in.
00:54:30.900She never approached the people who actually own the land, never approached them, doesn't allege that she even approached them, and she's suing them civilly.
00:54:37.720So I'm representing them, I'm defending them in the civil lawsuit, but we've also sued Harmeet Dhillon and others because they've opened up all these open-ended investigations with no identifiable—
00:54:48.680Harmeet Dhillon, who they're claiming that they're solving all the DEI for all these activists and everything that, you know, that have been inside the government for all these years.
00:55:00.800And by the way, Greg Trainor, who we're also suing, he's the head of HUD.
00:55:04.980He wrote an article, Make Fair Housing Fair Again, or something of that nature.
00:55:10.020And he wrote that in April of 2025, around the time that we were also being investigated,
00:55:15.320that these guys were being investigated.
00:55:18.040And he said that it's been a racial spoil system.
00:59:34.220We have a statutory duty to investigate every complaint that comes against you, but here are all your rights, and it's going to be a limited investigation, and if we don't find anything after a certain time, we're going to close the investigation, and if you want, we can conciliate, which means that we could, you know, maybe we'll come to some kind of agreement.
00:59:51.200In the end, Harmeet dismissed the civil rights investigation against them because they, three things I think they said, they said they hadn't gotten any permits, they're still in the early stages of planning, and they're going to amend their advertising to say it's for everyone.
01:00:06.640my clients got none of that their letter was accusatory from the start it's no victim uh at
01:00:15.040all they the um it goes one of the uh things that they're investigating or two of the things that
01:00:21.120they're investigating are private solo member LLCs that one's a handyman business the other's
01:00:26.360an excavation company that just belonged to these people and one of them was a fictional entity that
01:00:31.900doesn't even exist and uh and and it's just like you did this wrong not only that and they all got
01:00:37.740this all from activist journalists who sent this to them it all came from activist journalists
01:00:41.800journalists activist journalists they got screenshots from the internet archive that
01:00:47.920you know in other words they just like were digging deep and saying you one time on on
01:00:52.080return to the lands website mind you they're an intentional community there's nothing to do with
01:00:54.900it they have no website they don't do any advertising return to the land is a private
01:00:58.400membership organization that's totally First Amendment protected. So they say, oh, we found
01:01:06.200these screenshots where you said something that could be construed possibly as that you guys are
01:01:12.220somehow advertising for these guys. And then, by the way, ignoring that there was a big legal
01:01:18.920disclaimer on the website that said, we are not for a sale of land. Now, all of these investigations,
01:02:21.920He said that it's a racial spoils system where essentially they go after these white people and they collect money from them, extract money at gunpoint, and then they just distribute it to whoever the heck they want to distribute it to, even though nobody ever complained.
01:02:34.640And they wanted $50,000 from these people who barely can raise any money at all, who have nothing.
01:02:39.660I mean, they are bleeding money for all these investigations.
01:02:43.820And they called me up and they told me about their case.
01:02:45.900And I said, definitely, I want to be a part of this because I think that this is going to be one of the great civil rights cases of our generation because it's horrifying.
01:03:37.780I know. Well, I've been a little critical of them. I don't know if you know about that, but yeah, we'll get to that. But but the point that you're making is not related to anyone's personal grudges or personalities. I mean, you're you're describing a principle that Trump ran on.
01:03:51.620I mean, I would think it would be – President Trump himself said that J6ers have been – they were destroyed by weaponization and dirty cops.
01:04:08.500A lot of people would have to be fired from DOJ because hundreds and hundreds of lawyers were brought from all 50 states to be part of this capital siege unit.
01:04:17.160The FBI agents, if I showed you what I know from the discovery of some of my clients, the amount of surveillance that they were subjected to by the FBI, the amount of agents that participated in pre-dawn raids on people, not even for misdemeanors, Siaka Masekwe, you know who he is?
01:04:33.420So Siaka was a J6, he walked into the building for 30 seconds, a cop saw him, said, hey, you turn around, he said, okay, no problem, and he walked and he left, and that was the end of it, and he didn't know he wasn't supposed to be there.
01:04:43.740they got him on before they even arrested him on a search warrant they and they were surveilling him
01:04:51.900he was speaking at political events they were surveilling him at political events and i mean
01:04:56.680so many people and that was all the fbi field office in los angeles and i could breathe out
01:05:04.480a hundred page report about the fbi field office in los angeles and why it should be shut down and
01:05:08.820on the same topic, the FBI field office in Minneapolis that allowed BLM, that allowed
01:05:15.500anti-ice protests to attack federal officers, all these things never went after people.
01:05:22.140And then when they wanted to go after Don Lemon because he walked into a church or something
01:05:27.220like that. So for that, people left. They said, oh, I'm not going to take part in this, right?
01:05:33.060All of those people, there were J6ers, including Victoria White. Victoria White was a single mom
01:05:38.080from minnesota who went to uh washington dc she's on video heroically there were these b these antifa
01:05:45.260like guys in black block who were trying to smash a window and nobody was doing anything because
01:05:50.380people were scared of a provocateur who was actually there with a you know to cause harm
01:05:53.580that person was never arrested victoria a small single mother with children at home tackled the
01:05:59.020guy and yes it's all on video and starts screaming at him and pushed him away from the building
01:06:04.220then she was caught up in the malay she was punched in the face repeatedly by a police officer jason
01:06:10.020bagshaw on video and she was dragged through within an inch of her life she'll never be the
01:06:14.460same she was permanently injured from it and she was forced to uh laura logan did a whole piece on
01:06:20.340victoria white i encourage everybody to look at it she was forced to uh plead guilty because she
01:06:25.120had little children who would become orphans and uh and they got her on a felony a ridiculous felony
01:06:30.700for and she absolutely could have gone to trial and i think that she could have been she of the
01:06:35.580all the j6 or she could have been acquitted had they the judge actually let her show the evidence
01:06:39.800didn't matter she pled guilty because you know her life was so destroyed by it and everything
01:06:45.020like that then she sued and the uh and the dc court threw it out and said she sued the police
01:06:52.760for beating the beating beating her up uh and the no no she pled and in her plea deal she basically
01:06:59.140says that she's an insurrectionist and a rioter and everything like that. So her lawsuit was
01:07:03.500thrown out. So I'm saying she was arrested in Minneapolis. That field office that refuses
01:07:09.760to go after BLM, refuses to go after anti-ice, this anarcho-tyranny that people talk about,
01:07:15.880where it's one standard of justice for one political group and for another one, that all
01:07:20.380exists. And you could go office by office by office and show all of this. And that's why J6
01:08:12.700So I just want to cycle back a little bit to your experience at DOJ.
01:08:19.200You come in, I think, with the purest motives.
01:08:23.240You come in because you've been so focused on the injustices done to the J6 defendants,
01:08:27.580and you find out in short order that there's not going to be a real effort to help them.
01:08:32.400You're working for another, I think, idealistic appointee,
01:08:37.680Harmeet Dillon of the Civil Rights Division,
01:08:40.120and you're working directly for her, I think.
01:08:42.340What are your conversations like with her?
01:08:44.180So, you know, I was senior counsel, which I think sounds fancier than it is. Essentially,
01:08:52.100I was, you know, there were a lot of us, but essentially I really dealt with her through
01:08:56.780chief of staff and her deputies. So I didn't interact with Harmeet so much. Although,
01:09:02.400like I think I said earlier, I definitely think that she liked me before she didn't because,
01:09:07.740you know, I mean, she, you know, whenever I did interact with her, it was always positive.
01:09:12.080And I liked her, frankly. And she brought me as her plus one to the very select Hanukkah party at the White House. And that was in December. That was shortly before I left.
01:09:28.840And so what happened was I was going around the building and I wasn't going directly to Harmeet,
01:09:35.300but I was going to anybody who would listen and I would bring in victims of weaponization.
01:21:46.740You don't have to read it. Just the title, Three Felonies a Day. Essentially, if the government
01:21:50.200wants to go after you, every one of us is violating at least three felonies a day. It's
01:21:54.600just a question of what Stalin said. Show me the man, I'll find you the crime. So we all know this
01:22:00.240to be true. For some reason, the public still gives the presumption of good faith to the federal
01:22:05.480prosecutors. I don't know why that is. But that said, President Trump shouldn't let him turn his
01:22:11.340eyes inward and look at office by office and appoint outside people like me, like others who
01:22:18.780have been critical. And let's look at these cases. Let's look for, once again, cases where there's
01:22:23.820no articulable crime, some very complicated securities, Ponzi-like scheme. That's a big
01:22:29.720thing that they do. Let's look for no identifiable victims. And number three is,
01:22:36.340is there some kind of circumstance of motive that this could have been political? Dinesh D'Souza
01:22:41.800is the perfect example. You could give that easily. It's no articulable crime. It's campaign
01:22:45.980finance violation. Campaign finance violation, we should get rid of it. It's inherently political.
01:22:51.120It only targets politics. It's selectively enforced. And essentially, George Soros can
01:22:57.160give a billion dollars because he has the right lawyers to do it. And Janesh D'Souza can't give
01:23:00.30015,000 because he's not, he's basically the people who should, who are actually tampering
01:23:05.100with our elections are the ones who are getting away with it because they're the best lawyers.
01:23:08.220So it's inherently political. There's no identifiable victim. Who was the victim?
01:23:12.700The voters are the victim. There was no victim. $15,000 in a political campaign in New York City
01:23:17.940doesn't even pay for one fundraiser in a thing. He committed no crime and he went
01:23:27.080to jail so obviously that's political weaponization it's not hard to identify that's what i'm saying
01:23:33.620they've become so brazen about it because there's been no over uh oversight to this that i bet you
01:23:39.800there are probably even emails that implicate them like smoking gun emails if if there would
01:23:43.560be a real investigation of these people so why not i just i'm still confused by the motive so
01:23:50.200trump is the victim of weaponization of the justice system there's no question about that
01:23:55.740It's one of the reasons a lot of people supported Trump when they saw his wife's underwear drawer get raided at Mar-a-Lago three summers ago.
01:40:27.140And that one I know is in front of them right now because they have to decide, just I know as a lawyer, that they have to decide right now if they're going to prepare for this man's trial or if they're going to drop it.
01:42:06.040So they're going to have to start preparing for trial.
01:42:08.380The government, even after a judge overturned the jury's verdict because it was inconsistent with the law, the government took up the case again?
01:42:27.880It could also be because if they dismiss it, then it opens up, you know, why?
01:42:32.840Why was this brought in the first place?
01:42:34.420And then maybe we're going to find a smoking gun email that says Fox News, Ron Elfenbein, you know, in the same sentence through an easy search.
01:42:41.460And we're going to find out somebody maybe, I'm not alleging, but maybe somebody sent an email and said, hey, this guy on Fox News, here's the link.
01:42:49.100I would not doubt that they, if they did it, maybe they did it on Signal or whatever.
01:42:53.760But I would not doubt that they even sent it in the government emails.
01:42:57.140And I think that they have to get a conviction on him.
01:43:00.940And that's why they're committed to it.
01:43:02.540But that's the line prosecutors. What about the people at the top? What about those people? Where's Colin McDonald, who's now the head of fraud? This is under him. He is a Trump appointee to an assistant attorney general position. Let him look at this case and evaluate it in the context, not only the context of whether we can win or lose the case.
01:43:25.380but how about the context of maybe there's something fishy going on here. Maybe it's
01:43:29.080not worth destroying a doctor over this. Maybe there's some other factor that makes this case
01:43:36.220a little bit unusual and we should just drop it. So what I'm hoping, once again, and I thank you
01:43:41.520again for giving me this opportunity to talk about as many cases as I can, is that instead of
01:43:47.540doubling down because we don't want to act under pressure because we don't like that guy or that
01:43:54.640guy because they're, you know, speaking out against us. Let's just take what they say at
01:43:58.480face value and let's start being honest with the public. Let's respond to these accusations of
01:44:03.500weaponization. Let's maybe admit that we're wrong. You find a million press releases by them
01:44:08.640that say that, you know, this person's under indictment for here's our allegations against
01:44:13.360him. You'll never find a press release from the DOJ that says, you know what, we got that one
01:44:16.880wrong. Never happens. So in answer to your question of why these people, they are married to this
01:44:22.760system. The people who are in these jobs, they, from the time they were kindergarten, wanted to
01:44:29.160go to Harvard and Yale and all the Ivy League schools and everything. So therefore they are
01:44:33.040conditioned from the youngest age to never move this way or that way outside of authority because
01:44:39.560you don't get into Harvard and Yale if you did something here or here. So that is their conditioning
01:44:44.240like Pavlovian instincts that it's just the authority to the system, obedience to the system,
01:44:48.660obedience to the system. So by the time they get into these positions, their minds and their
01:44:54.860essence, their soul is so corrupted by the system that produced them that they're not even capable
01:45:01.640of seeing it. And they could have cognitive dissonance and they're the wrong people to
01:45:06.640challenge the system because they're not capable. They're produced by it and they're looking to
01:45:12.040move up in it because that's all it takes a great person to throw all of that away and to uh and to
01:45:20.600move on so um that's that's about the nicest summary i've ever heard i will my one editorial
01:45:26.680comment would be these are prizes that are not worth winning in the first place and so that's
01:45:32.420what they don't understand which is like the whole secret to life which is getting rewarded by a
01:45:37.540corrupt silly system and getting your merit badges and your little ribbons and all that stuff it's