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00:00:26.300 at tucker carlson.com here's the episode i used to think if you asked me like even a year ago i'd

00:00:32.040 like oh come on they're gonna roll this guy over you know in a gurney uh get him over the finish

00:00:37.160 line and i was like that's no one would believe that the whole premise of you know their democracy

00:00:41.060 you know yeah really relies on people actually still buying it and i don't know that i don't

00:00:47.180 know that they care anymore because like when they talk about democracy it's a soundbite right it's not

00:00:50.680 democracy the way it's not the republic they're preserving opposite of what's happening

00:00:54.900 once they it's almost like you get kidnapped and the kidnapper has a mask on but once he shows you

00:01:02.120 his face he's got to kill you correct and they've shown their face yeah you know again they i don't

00:01:08.460 think there's anything they wouldn't do i mean you put out something i think it was i think it was on

00:01:11.880 twitter uh yesterday which was you know sort of that extreme like well if they can't get trump this

00:01:15.600 way what's the next level and i i think we've they've proven that they'll do that in the past i think

00:01:20.400 we're now figuring that out uh we understand it i think the system's probably been broken for

00:01:25.420 you know much longer uh than any of us would care to admit and for me i i saw it firsthand at least

00:01:31.220 61 years it's been broken since they killed the president in an election year exactly and you know

00:01:35.680 for me i still even when we started this process even i'd say it's safe to say i was probably the

00:01:40.460 number two target of you know russia russia russia um and i was like well there must be something to it

00:01:46.500 i know i didn't obviously collude with russia but maybe you know maybe i took a selfie with an

00:01:50.920 agent once because i took 10 000 selfies a day right so so you know there but even like knowing

00:01:56.380 that i was a target i was like i still believed i guess because i wanted to right i want to know i

00:02:00.600 get it america is the greatest place in the world and you can do and i'm like you know it's the fbi

00:02:05.520 you know again there's some door kickers that i'm still like hey they're home team i get it they're

00:02:09.380 doing eventually those guys are gonna have to speak up though right i gave we're long past i gave the

00:02:14.180 door kickers a pass for far too long which is like hey you know they can't go against the leadership

00:02:18.800 but like when you're watching this kind of bastardization of justice when you're watching

00:02:23.780 this sort of lopsided level when they're you know they spend more time you know kicking down the doors

00:02:28.620 of an amish farmer selling unpasteurized milk than actually going after people committing terror

00:02:33.540 because you know they're trans or you know whatever it is that they are uh you really lose that ability

00:02:40.280 to get that pass that i really wanted them to give but i you know i i wanted to believe

00:02:43.960 that everything i grew up believing was accurate and it's all bullshit it's it's just all bullshit so

00:02:50.780 we have to fix that that's that's why we fight now to actually make it so but you saw this on january 6th

00:02:56.000 too i mean i know that joe scarborough and the rest of the liars presented those people as like

00:03:01.100 insurrectionists and dangerous they were actually the most pure-hearted and the most naive about the i mean

00:03:09.100 they were they were literally walking with pocket constitution saying no you can't do this they

00:03:13.060 believed in the system much more than the people who put them in prison who don't believe in it at

00:03:16.480 all without question and you saw that i mean you know the narrative was pushed so much the the clips

00:03:21.880 that they used were designed to create something that didn't actually happen i mean it's so sick

00:03:28.220 you know i always say you know it was the first unarmed insurrection in the history of insurrections i

00:03:33.040 mean it's never happened before but arguably i'd say probably the most heavily armed populace if they

00:03:37.920 want it to have been right of course but if but of course it wasn't an insurrection it didn't matter

00:03:42.160 and they just wanted to run out of them like they could hardly believe this was happening

00:03:45.560 and i think you're describing the same thing like you really believed it in our institutions and our

00:03:51.380 norms and democracy i i i did and it took again i mean literally threats of you know you're going to

00:03:59.760 jail for treason a crime punishable by death that's like not a great swing thought when you're going

00:04:03.360 through it you know i mean i'm like wait a minute like if you're the father of five kids that's not

00:04:06.840 yeah and and yet i still at the beginning of it i was like and then it just your your eyes start to

00:04:12.820 open and you see the games and you see the people that are on your side and you see the you know the

00:04:17.000 lindsey grahams of the world right they they get on tv and they're on you know fox or something like

00:04:21.920 that and they're like well we must subpoena these people and we must get to the bottom of this i'm

00:04:25.840 like well you're like the chairman of the judiciary committee like you have you have the authority to do

00:04:30.540 that like like but you're talking about doing the thing that you have the authority to do

00:04:35.480 but you're unwilling to actually exercise that power so that was what disgusted me most about

00:04:40.440 like the republicans right it's you're telling your base the people who are watching you know

00:04:45.760 like you're fighting but you know damn well that you're not actually fighting no right and we see

00:04:50.240 that so much that's the difference between it's the difference between the democrats i mean they've

00:04:55.060 shown hey they'll they'll put their opposition in jail they'll smother them they'll silence them

00:04:59.240 uh there's nothing they won't do to preserve power we you know we'll write a strongly worded memo

00:05:04.740 uh and do nothing to follow up and i think as long as you have that sort of imbalance uh in the

00:05:10.840 response nothing changes because you know the democrats they'll take their win they'll run run to

00:05:16.700 the bank they'll laugh their ass off along the way and uh nothing changes until we actually start

00:05:21.020 fighting back i think a lot of people yesterday when that verdict came down i'm among them my first

00:05:26.220 reaction was wow they'll actually hurt us like they would they would execute us me i'll just say

00:05:32.020 speak for myself and there would be an msnbc panel of former federal prosecutors telling their audience

00:05:37.240 that i deserved it and they'd be laughing the lincoln project would send out a you know congratulatory

00:05:42.180 tweet and i was like wow this there's a there's sort of a lack of humanity there's a coldness there's

00:05:46.400 an evil under all of this that i think i underestimate we i think we all did um and by the way i think

00:05:52.260 many still do you know again it's hard to believe that you could live through these last eight years

00:05:57.320 or whatever 10 years and and not think that i mean look at you know that that this is even you know

00:06:03.740 within 10 points in terms of an election like i can't name literally a single metric a single one

00:06:09.900 geopolitical economic or otherwise like where we're better off now and yet they'll outrace us they'll do

00:06:17.340 this the media still pushes it as though you know joe biodynamics is doing wonderfully for you like

00:06:21.740 i get it i'm the son of a billionaire if i'm pissed off at the grocery store like you know i'm not i'm

00:06:25.740 not like one of these woke guys on one of these channels where it's like my three-month-old baby was

00:06:29.980 talking about nuclear proliferation on the carillian peninsula talk or and and she was crying she's she

00:06:35.860 was scared it's like i get it like i understand where i'm come from i'm totally comfortable with that

00:06:40.120 i've been blessed but like if i'm sitting there with sticker shock like what's the country feeling

00:06:44.640 you know if i see what's going on in my interest rates of my mortgage like man how much longer can

00:06:50.920 we do this and then you talk about wars and trillions of dollars of spending and then the

00:06:54.360 republicans are telling us that you know the ukraine is the number one most important issue for

00:06:58.800 republicans across our country i've heard that from mitch mcconnell dozens of times it's just not

00:07:03.340 right i've i speak in front of i've spoken in front of more republicans in the last year than mitch

00:07:07.560 mcconnell has in his entire lifetime and i think i've surveyed probably i do it live like just at a

00:07:12.040 you know a thousand people here 500 people here 5 000 people there it's not it's been a top 10 issue

00:07:18.400 and about 60 65 000 people for three people one of them uh was a dc sort of beltway guy he felt very

00:07:27.900 strongly about it probably he was profiteering off of it uh one of them misunderstood the question so he

00:07:32.560 thought it was a double negative so it was not in fact a top 10 issue for him because i do is it top

00:07:37.100 three or top 10 and one of them it was top 10 but not top three and i said sir you know and i'll ask

00:07:41.560 him i don't care you know i want to hear it out like why is well i'm from kiev ukraine i was like

00:07:45.260 i'm going to give you a pass so i'm going to effectively say out of about 65 000 people

00:07:49.720 surveyed in the last you know let's call it two years 18 months whatever it is since the war started

00:07:53.160 a little more i guess uh exactly you know basically zero people have been in favor of this but the

00:07:59.260 leader of the senate will tell us it's the number one issue for republicans across the country it's

00:08:02.840 just not so how can that i was in dc last night i never go back i'm from there and i took three people

00:08:08.160 to dinner four people at the table nobody drank for all three i am a teetotaler so the other three

00:08:12.220 and it's a good restaurant but not like a famous restaurant restaurant i've eaten at for many years

00:08:17.680 the bill was eight hundred dollars for four eight hundred dollars not drinking not drinking and no

00:08:23.600 nothing crazy like salad steak dessert 800 bucks and i thought you know i'm pretty insulated from cost

00:08:31.360 but i thought i can't well i can't how do people live here my experience was opposite of that took two of

00:08:36.200 my boys on a fishing trip and we were coming back traveling through an airport and we went to a

00:08:39.580 mcdonald's and it was my 11 year old boy my 14 year old boy and me at the time it was the last and it

00:08:43.740 was like 47 dollars and change for like an 11 year old child a 14 year old child and me i'm like

00:08:50.280 again i it's not going to change my spending habits i'm not pretending i drive it my truck has

00:08:55.240 700 horsepower like you know i'm not happy at the pump but like but if they're telling you the war

00:09:00.000 against russia is the most important thing to america yeah no it's not they're lying so so both of us

00:09:04.480 sort of skipped ahead past an analysis of the case and sort of taking it as a given that what we saw

00:09:10.900 yesterday was grotesque and really sort of the end of a fair justice system but for people who've

00:09:16.080 just heard that and not gotten some of the details that prove it to be true yeah can you just run

00:09:22.380 through what the case was i i mean it's literally you know too much yeah but to the extent how much

00:09:27.780 time we got but loria it's a books and records thing right i mean it's literally a filing it's

00:09:34.380 like a misfiling and yet it's something that was never before tried as a felony uh like many of

00:09:40.280 the other cases like when you know one of the cases in new york where they literally they changed

00:09:44.140 new york state law to be able to for one year they changed the law for one year to be able to go back

00:09:50.420 and change a statute of limitations so that you could go after my father and then after that year after

00:09:54.900 that is filed and they go after my father that was a gene carroll case it reverts back to the normal

00:09:59.300 statute of limitations because otherwise they wouldn't have been able to do it this was very

00:10:02.180 similar this was a case that was you know at best misdemeanor type stuff remember hillary clinton started

00:10:07.940 uh with with a similar thing she got fined uh eight thousand dollars i believe it was for starting what

00:10:14.220 was the russia russia russia hoax with the uh steel dossier leaks and and all of this right that was an

00:10:18.920 eight thousand dollar fine they want to put my father in jail for you know upwards of a hundred years

00:10:23.780 depending on how you look at it and uh that's never been done before in these things because

00:10:28.280 basically someone in an accounting department put legal expenses for you know paying a lawyer

00:10:34.380 it's it's it's unheard of but you you have experts when they say well it's a federal election

00:10:39.140 uh crime they wouldn't let the person who wrote the rules like wrote them is the foremost expert in

00:10:45.860 all of that actually testify for us uh the jury didn't have to be unanimous on the things that they

00:10:50.680 charged they just all had to sort of come to a general okay four guys agreed on this and four

00:10:53.720 people agreed on that and four that's unanimous uh the bastardization of all of this thing and

00:10:58.460 just having been in the courtroom candidly was watching you know when the prosecution you know

00:11:02.500 uh objected to something that we said it was always you know sustained uh they let them you

00:11:08.640 know just we couldn't ask anything when when it was us asking the questions the uncomfortable

00:11:12.780 questions of their witnesses all of a sudden you know we were overruled every time uh it you just the

00:11:18.980 list goes on so you've made the case and others who followed it carefully have made the case

00:11:23.320 that this was a direct hit from the biden administration 100 point to a man called

00:11:27.720 matthew colangelo yeah can you tell us who he is matthew colangelo was the number three guy

00:11:32.740 in joe biden's justice department so from washington dc the other big part of this case you know as it

00:11:38.220 relates to that was that they're trying to say it's a federal election commission case well name

00:11:43.580 another case that's ever been tried that's a federal crime tried in a state court so matthew

00:11:47.880 colangelo is number three at doj so that's about as high as a prosecutor can ascend correct and he

00:11:52.680 was moved to new york don't forget alvin bragg the district attorney that actually tried this case

00:11:56.340 turned it down years ago they could have done this seven eight years ago whenever it happened but they

00:12:00.540 didn't the federal election commission the fec that would have you know would have been one of

00:12:04.640 the things that's around it they could have tried the irs could have done these things because

00:12:07.500 if it was a tax thing all of them chose to pass including again alvin bragg the guy who's trying

00:12:12.160 it and just tried it right now passed on this a couple years ago biden's number three at his doj

00:12:16.780 comes up and all of a sudden now they're filing the charges conveniently right before an election

00:12:22.500 dumb question so the number three guy at doj who's ascended this ladder yes okay what is he doing

00:12:29.360 in new york i mean that's a massive step down he's prosecuting his political enemies tucker okay but

00:12:36.020 that's it but nobody there's you know there's no other there's literally no other explanation for it

00:12:40.820 when you look at the bastardization of this you have a judge who's a biden donor his daughter is

00:12:45.940 one of the number one democrat says he's literally a biden donor he's a biden donor like literally has

00:12:50.560 written checks himself his daughter is one of the most prolific fundraisers for the radical democrats

00:12:55.320 adam schiff and like she's made millions off of that this judge allowed his daughter's clients

00:13:00.140 democrat mega donors to sit in the courtroom it's like having front row seats like you own the new

00:13:04.580 york rangers right it's think of how insane that is right but can i ask a dumb question

00:13:09.280 first of all why would the number three guy at doj wind up in a case in a state case that seems

00:13:16.360 like he must have been sent one two if the judge was literally a biden donor and donating to among

00:13:23.920 other things like the stop trump effort which i think was one of them how could he remain the judge

00:13:29.440 how could he because it's new york what do you appeal it to you appeal it to another panicle panel of

00:13:33.760 radicals right i mean it was like the new york ag case right we got fined almost a half a billion

00:13:38.800 dollars for paying back a bank on time with interest the bank who's the alleged victim is

00:13:45.880 on the stand being like no we love trump we want to do more business with trump not less having

00:13:49.180 their portfolio was a feather in our cap that we use to generate other business doesn't matter you're

00:13:54.500 a victim uh it it's it's pure and simple political prosecution you know persecution they're they're

00:14:00.800 going after there's nothing that they won't do to stop trump and they understand now with years of

00:14:06.840 experience in the white house i think you know going in as a novice was great in many ways but

00:14:10.900 you also don't know who the snakes are you don't know who the people who are going to actually help

00:14:14.680 you and be sort of loyal to the cause and that causes you know what being the duly elected president

00:14:19.600 united states doing the things you said you would do versus doing what the swamp wants slow rolling

00:14:24.480 what the president wants uh you know all those unelected officials and so i think the notion of trump

00:14:29.600 coming back now actually scares them so much more because he has that knowledge he has that

00:14:34.080 understanding and i think that will make him so much more effective in a second term well and also

00:14:37.940 if you're going to kill the king you better kill the king yeah but you best not miss as the saying

00:14:41.320 that's exactly right you may have come to the obvious conclusion that the real debate is not

00:14:45.540 between republican and democrat or socialist and capitalists right left the real battles between

00:14:53.100 people who are lying on purpose and people who are trying to tell you the truth it's between good

00:14:59.280 and evil it's between honesty and falsehood and we hope we are on the former side that's why we

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00:15:24.380 regret it so are you worried well a couple questions will this stop the campaign like

00:15:31.120 what effect is that uh listen i i spoke to my father you know right after the verdict you know

00:15:35.120 today i mean you know obviously it's a somber moment i mean and you know yeah you know me well

00:15:41.300 enough i you know i can pretty much you know fight through anything and we keep going and he will too

00:15:45.400 but you know it is a somber moment but more so for our country so but if anything

00:15:49.200 i would say it's actually strengthened his resolve i think he listen in 16 uh it was the

00:15:56.540 elevator ride right before the escalator ride you know now we find out who our real friends are

00:16:00.860 you know he knew what was going to happen he knew the celebrities would go but he knew that and he did

00:16:05.160 it anyway i think after 2020 he understood that if he just went home he could go play golf and go

00:16:10.900 back to building buildings and making millions and getting paid to give speeches and stuff like that

00:16:14.880 there's just too much at stake and so he's he's just unwilling to stop i gotta think a lot of

00:16:20.400 people are looking back to four years ago and reaching the conclusion well if they'll rig a trial

00:16:25.960 they'll probably rig an election i think without question i think you know the reality is you know

00:16:30.860 what i see you know on the ground the amount of people from the the demographics that probably have

00:16:35.780 never voted republican before that are just you know you know grabbing me at airports or like

00:16:40.640 even walking down the streets you know in new york the other day it's it's amazing i mean i i did a

00:16:47.240 for example you know i i was one of the probably most out there people in terms of rallies and

00:16:52.040 campaigns doing my own thing in 16 and 20 i think just for example october of 2020 i think i did 104

00:16:57.540 rallies in that month so like four a day for a month straight like i i'm on the ground you know the

00:17:03.360 energy in 2020 was better than even 16 amazingly enough but they they had that ability to weaponize

00:17:08.280 covid and all of that stuff we saw the nonsense uh it's it's so much stronger right now and we're

00:17:13.560 still six months out uh that doesn't mean they won't do you know again i i don't even pretend

00:17:18.760 to think that hey it's gonna be fair and they're not gonna cheat and they're not i i used to probably

00:17:23.720 think that hey there's only so far they can go like how you know they're gonna roll this guy over

00:17:28.040 the line in a gurney and you know pretend he's because i used to think they actually had

00:17:32.320 maybe a little bit of shame uh but that's not actually at all true i don't think they care

00:17:38.100 anymore they're they're laughing at you know when they use democracy it's a soundbite but they're

00:17:41.440 never laugh about at their cocktail they're never punished they weren't punished for the iraq war or

00:17:44.880 the afghanistan withdrawal or the lies around covid the vaccine mandates they weren't punished for

00:17:50.000 the 2020 election russia russia russia i mean russia not only are they not punished tucker they're

00:17:54.400 they're given better jobs they they either keep their job and then they get a cnn

00:17:58.060 contributorship to talk about preserving democracy but maybe i mean if you treated your kids this way

00:18:02.280 they'd be sociopaths i think you allowed they are well they certainly are they are i'm sure they had

00:18:07.280 boomer parents who indulge them of course but i mean someone needs to be punished at some point right

00:18:12.420 so it stops i think without question i i don't think you know we have not done that well uh republicans

00:18:18.540 right the democrats don't fear us because they know well we'd never play the same game because we

00:18:22.100 actually believe what they think is that you know ha ha a soundbite we actually believe those things

00:18:27.180 uh and it's actually hard it's hard for me to say those things because i'd love not to have to play

00:18:32.120 that game but i i don't believe there's another answer other than like we have to fight fire with

00:18:36.380 fire as long as we're playing t-ball while they're playing fast pitch hardball they're going to win

00:18:41.480 they're going to take their power they're going to run to the bank they're going to and laugh every

00:18:45.480 step of the way uh there's there's just not enough actual fighters there i mean when you look at

00:18:50.440 even honestly look at the republican bench it's not very deep no you know in terms of the guys that you'd

00:18:56.220 actually be hey who's the guy i want in a foxhole who's the guy that'll actually fight who's the

00:18:59.180 guy that's not going to succumb to the pressures of washington dc who are they i mean like right now

00:19:05.240 i mean i love a guy like a jd vance you know there there there are a couple but man that list is

00:19:10.760 who's next mike lee is kind of becoming that guy yeah mike lee's a fighter i i like mike and you know

00:19:17.880 and it's interesting it's one of those you know in 2016 mike lee and i almost got a fistfight on the

00:19:21.880 convention floor like you know we were very different but like he's a guy that i text with

00:19:25.520 probably daily yeah uh and so it's interesting that you know once you actually have that

00:19:30.180 relationship you can actually people come around it's like okay you were actually right well people

00:19:34.040 change on the basis of evidence and what they see my views are totally different from what they were

00:19:37.960 10 years ago i think the problem with dc is for conservatives it's actually an easy existence you

00:19:43.420 could be a republican in dc as long as you're republican light of course you know if you're like hey say

00:19:48.220 whatever you want when you're speaking to a group of 10 people in your little hometown you know you

00:19:53.220 come to dc you can vote with the republicans like 80 80 of the time when it actually matters as long

00:19:58.480 as you you vote with us the washington post isn't going to come after you they're not going to be

00:20:02.480 protesting in front of your home it's an easy existence you'll get invited to the cool person

00:20:06.100 christmas party and you know sorry holiday party i don't want to you know they don't celebrate

00:20:11.400 christmas because no they don't no well because they don't believe in god right the democrats their

00:20:15.760 their gods are evolving right they goes you know greta thunberg is the high priestess of climate

00:20:20.360 change fauci is the you know the lord of uh science yes yeah science and covid and these days it's

00:20:27.740 vladimir zelinski the you know the the high priest of ukraine which is apparently the number one issue

00:20:32.400 for republicans across the country but i've not yet seen that anywhere and so uh but but those are the

00:20:36.960 people they choose to be their deities and you know and everything follows that path until you know

00:20:42.080 they burn out flame out or you know get exposed for what they really are how can you run a

00:20:46.460 presidential campaign when you're um fighting multiple legal battles criminal well i mean that

00:20:53.880 that's by design right i mean of course you look at all of these things they they understand listen

00:20:58.400 joe biden in a basement is good for joe biden's campaign because if you put him on a stage it's a

00:21:05.300 negative right he's incapable of getting through a teleprompter he would get lost at this table

00:21:08.900 yes uh and i you know i don't say that as like glibly it's just no it's just it's sad i i feel bad

00:21:15.300 uh you know he can't get through basic things and yet he's the leader of the free world or whoever's

00:21:21.240 pulling the you know the marionette strings um you know trump locked in a courtroom for five weeks

00:21:28.020 while he should be campaigning that's that's really good for them because he can't he can bring that

00:21:31.920 message to people people you know understand what he's saying uh it resonates with them uh he's able to

00:21:37.880 bring people over who would not have otherwise been able to or would have ever voted republican

00:21:42.020 uh he's one of the few guys that can do that you know sort of expose the left for what it is expose

00:21:46.540 what we're talking about break through the noise uh put out there by you know the mainstream media

00:21:52.360 uh break through the noise and sort of the manipulation uh of big tech uh those are you know

00:21:59.440 and those are trillion dollar industries that are that are functioning as the marketing department

00:22:03.560 for today's democrat party and you know to be able to single-handedly sort of break some of those

00:22:10.560 walls down you know i mean if i felt like if if i was in charge of that if i was in charge of the

00:22:15.200 democrats i would be winning elections 99.9 to 0.01 you know like exactly and yet they're still close

00:22:21.060 uh you know i think our messaging is there and i think it's really important perhaps honestly the

00:22:26.480 stuff that they've done to my father our family perhaps it's the most important thing to happen

00:22:30.620 to america in recent history in that it's exposed just how bad it is you can't hide from it anymore

00:22:37.020 it's not like i get it like you come home from a long day at work you're trying to feed your family

00:22:41.000 you're listening to five minutes of you know brian stelter on tv he's like well there's got to be

00:22:45.340 something to it you know during the early campaign stuff if i watch tv to hear about myself i'm like

00:22:49.820 man i hate me too uh it's so bad people feel it every day uh they're not going for it anymore and i

00:22:57.320 think it's why they're you know watching you here or me on rumble or what you know whatever it may

00:23:00.900 be they're going to other places to hear an alternate viewpoint because you know the machine

00:23:05.700 just isn't delivering anymore and it's so unreal the but the machine knows that and the machine

00:23:10.600 exists to perpetuate itself that's the only point is to maintain power um these are incompetent people

00:23:17.020 with no other prospects in life other than running the machine so well not all of them are

00:23:20.480 incompetent you know when i see what they're good at machine running yeah when i see what tech is

00:23:24.720 you even see it now because i see you know just you know the algorithm it's like it'll show me just

00:23:30.360 enough of what i want to see but never promote anything else you know and my meta platforms i

00:23:34.340 haven't grown in three years and yet everyone that comes up to me hey you got the greatest instagram i've

00:23:37.820 ever seen so so the people who are already following me will see my stuff so it appears it's almost like

00:23:42.840 it's ai designed to to let you think you're not being censored or that you're able to see the stuff

00:23:50.080 that you want oh i'm aware they're preventing that growth you're you're well aware of that so yes you

00:23:54.360 know the evolution of that is making it harder you know in in 16 17 18 when i was starting to get

00:23:59.640 censored by you know let's call it twitter 1.0 you know they're like well how do you know you're

00:24:03.280 being said i was like well because yesterday i got 7 500 retweets on a post today i got three and it's

00:24:08.100 you know like i do my own social when i hit that button i know what it's going to do i know when it's

00:24:12.960 okay that's a decent post that's i don't know that's hot that's gonna go big and it's like when when

00:24:16.820 it goes big for about 30 seconds and then it's like just you you see exactly what they're doing but

00:24:22.020 they're they're coming up with better ways to make it appear as though they're not censoring

00:24:26.600 uh while while still you know continuing to perpetuate and push you know the ideals that

00:24:32.600 they they espouse and value no one interfered in the last election more than mark zuckerberg

00:24:37.660 or google and or sergey brenton that's exactly right so but let me ask you the the convictions

00:24:44.500 come down 34 yesterday and your father goes out there and just basically raises the middle finger

00:24:49.200 and says we're going to win anyway and within hours benning thompson of mississippi who's a

00:24:55.680 monster democratic congressman says um introduces legislation to to pull a secret service yeah so

00:25:01.460 basically they're saying okay we'll kill you now well they did that a while ago also if he goes to

00:25:06.280 prison we want to pull his secret service so basically if we put him in a cell we're going to

00:25:09.760 put him in a place where he could be murdered but that's a death threat of course it is but from a

00:25:13.620 member of congress again should it surprise us i mean you look at half the congressmen you know get

00:25:19.060 in their faces make them feel it i mean they can say these things and they are lauded as heroes if

00:25:23.660 we said something even remotely like that you know we're literally inciting violence i mean those words

00:25:28.080 are violence tucker we've we've seen this the the double standard uh that's out there i mean you

00:25:33.320 know but how hard is it for you congresswoman after congresswoman you have a hamas caucus you know

00:25:37.560 in congress calling for you know the death of people in the middle east it's you know well that's okay

00:25:42.760 you can't do that if we did something similar we'd be we'd be blocked we'd be off of every

00:25:48.320 platform we'd be canceled and uh you know again different games we're playing two very very

00:25:54.860 different games but that's so threatening we're gonna i mean tony fauci has seen he doesn't even

00:26:00.240 work for the government he's got secret service protection he walks in the dog park yeah in

00:26:03.880 washington dc i happen to know for a fact because it's my dog park uh former dog park and he's got

00:26:07.960 you know three guys following him but they want to pull it from your death yeah well look at what

00:26:11.980 they did with some of the justices the supreme court justices right i mean you think that they'd

00:26:15.920 be able to do what they've done to even i mean alito even this week you know we're gonna make him

00:26:20.900 recuse himself because his wife hung a flag upside down it's like well you know she can't express an

00:26:24.660 opinion uh what they've tried to do to clarence thomas what they did as it relates to gorsuch and

00:26:28.580 others you know uh it's insanity if they did that to ruth bader ginsburg if they were picketing in front

00:26:34.440 of their house like they did amy coley barrett that would be a serious problem those people would go to

00:26:38.900 jail of course but you know well we'll let the you know if that's the conservative justice we'll let

00:26:42.860 them suffer a little bit we'll we'll make sure it but but it's effective because then you see some

00:26:46.880 of them and they some of them are a little weaker than you know perhaps their principles and

00:26:50.480 you know they're man it's a little bit if maybe i got to go a little light on this one because

00:26:54.080 it's not worth the headache i mean when the democratic party's militia shows up outside your

00:26:57.840 house it's happened to me yeah you know people are intimidated by that of course and and we see it

00:27:02.820 you know across the board it's designed you know the hunter biden laptop that's russian

00:27:06.620 disinformation here's 52 intelligence officers signing off on it oh it must be four years later

00:27:10.600 oh no it's actually his laptop you know there's no accountability for that either but you know

00:27:15.080 they're like well no we're admitting it now it's like no but you got exactly what you wanted at the

00:27:18.300 time we understand there's no accountability for it you know that's election interference as much as

00:27:23.380 anything else also you know there was the stat like i think it was 17 percent of people said had

00:27:27.740 they known about the hunter biden laptop it would have changed their vote in 2020 i mean 17 percent

00:27:33.600 that's that's a lot of that's a lot of votes uh and yet you know that was the gospel and if you

00:27:39.480 said anything about it we've had the conversation about you know wuhan lab leak theory no no no of

00:27:43.760 course it didn't come from the lab that studies the virus in question that we fund it came from the

00:27:48.320 wet market three feet outside of the lab and if you believe otherwise we're gonna pull your funding

00:27:52.160 if you're a doctor you'll lose you know you'll lose tenure if you're at a university

00:27:55.660 you won't you know fauci's gonna not sign off on your your your grants anymore and even if you're

00:28:01.460 like but you don't have to be a science you're like don how would you know you're not a virologist

00:28:05.560 it's like you don't have to be a virologist to know that it happened there you just have to not

00:28:09.900 be an imbecile like you know you can you can have like mid you know double digit iq and be like of

00:28:15.920 course it came from the place that studies the exact virus in question that was at ground zero of where

00:28:21.640 it released and not from four feet outside of that like you like it's insane and yet think of the

00:28:27.940 truly intelligent people in positions of power and medicine and otherwise who went along with

00:28:33.620 this blindly because you know it was easier to do and you know there was a lot of money and

00:28:38.160 you know it's not kind of hard to do that now though i mean everything that's happened this

00:28:42.680 isn't all that long ago i mean right but at this but i do think at this point if you're still telling

00:28:46.740 yourself those lies you are lying to yourself you are a liar but it doesn't matter they correct it

00:28:50.760 years later but they they got what they needed out of the ruse right right they got what they needed

00:28:56.380 and again because there's no accountability after the fact it doesn't matter they'll do it again

00:29:00.140 and they'll make it the gospel for six months or you know they always said you know the difference

00:29:03.720 between the truth and the conspiracy theory is six months yeah you know now it's like six minutes but

00:29:07.460 they'll still get what they want out of that six minutes uh use it to manipulate whatever they need

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00:31:05.580 so how does it play out from here over the next five months i mean they tried to put him in prison

00:31:09.420 they're still do you think he we got to overwhelm the margin of fraud so it's wait it's just to ask

00:31:13.820 it's july 11th is sentencing july 11th yeah by the way you think that's a coincidence that's four days

00:31:19.740 before the republican national convention you think that's a coincidental timing or do you think that's

00:31:24.140 designed to you know throw a wrench uh into that i mean you know yet another coincidence right but what

00:31:30.940 happens if they can they remand him and put him in jail then i imagine they will try right i mean why

00:31:36.860 wouldn't yeah of course like well you know does anyone think and again no that's too far that's

00:31:41.180 too far yeah yeah it's nothing's too far and again until it happens everyone we have to stop giving

00:31:47.420 them the benefit of the doubt thinking they're going to act above board this is an arm's length

00:31:51.900 transaction no it's not like what are you talking about there's not a single aspect of this case that

00:31:56.380 should stand in any corporate where do you appeal right now to the new york appellate division which is

00:32:00.860 just as radical you know you if and it's not just this case you look at all the shade all the craziness

00:32:07.180 around fanny willis right that case uh you look at jack smith and the fbi doctoring documents and

00:32:12.860 setting up staging photos and leaking it to the washington post the classified documents that

00:32:16.540 end up on the front page of the washington post that's fine uh each one of these things

00:32:22.300 wouldn't stand if we did this to meaning conservatives some sort of republican did this to obama

00:32:28.540 it would it would never end it would be a perpetual story and rightfully so and yet like hey as long

00:32:34.140 as it's against a conservative as long as it's against trump who's you know up against that machine

00:32:38.140 we're going to allow these things to happen not it's not like one of these things doesn't have any

00:32:42.460 uh serious hair on it right they're all shady as hell and yet it doesn't matter and our mainstream

00:32:47.660 media almost refuses to cover it uh they won't talk about these things uh you know my father in many

00:32:53.260 cases is gagged i mean think about that i mean you know first amendment is kind of the first

00:32:57.900 amendment right it's a big one for us uh the president former president of the united states

00:33:01.820 is not allowed to talk uh about the facts of the case because you know if people actually heard that

00:33:06.700 from him they'd realize just how much you know bs is in all of these things that's that should

00:33:13.020 trouble a lot of people you think it stops with trump like i mean think about that i mean

00:33:17.500 if they can do it to arguably one of the most you know out there most powerful people in the world

00:33:23.980 uh a bank account to be able to fight you know a base to push it you know venues to be a soapbox to

00:33:30.620 speak from if they can do it to him who can't they do it to but more importantly if they will

00:33:36.380 so flagrantly and so corruptly do it to him who won't they do it to i mean that's the question we

00:33:42.700 have to be asking i mean is anyone is anyone safe and it's you know it's like kova you know

00:33:47.820 people going blindly along no it's going to be different this time i'm like really you're like

00:33:51.580 that that's what you've got out of this but if they put the republican candidate who was leading

00:33:55.740 in the polls all things equal he becomes president again in november if they put him in jail right

00:34:01.020 before the presidential the republican convention on fake charges stemming from a rigged trial

00:34:09.020 they're kind of pushing violence aren't they listen how do they expect nothing like that

00:34:15.820 has ever happened in the reality you have to be careful even how you talk about that they are

00:34:19.900 pushing well they are they clearly are but you know again like nothing should surprise us right

00:34:25.900 the star witness of this case is someone who lied before every branch of congress was disbarred

00:34:30.300 uh you know lied to banks lied to wives lied to the press but we're expected to believe that he actually

00:34:34.860 told the truth in this one instance right that's that's who they hang their hand on because it

00:34:38.380 doesn't matter when it's when it's rigged the way it is it doesn't matter we're moving toward

00:34:43.820 something ugly and i don't want that no no one does um but you know they're not going to let it play

00:34:51.420 out i mean do you think they'll ever take their foot off the gas like no it's not they've gotten

00:34:55.980 away with it for years how should people respond do you think i think honestly the reality is everyone

00:35:02.620 has to get involved yeah uh and again just both sides i mean you have to have you know people

00:35:08.620 you know running for office and i'm not talking about president or congress like you know run for

00:35:11.900 your school boards i mean you know that's perhaps the thing that's most important to me like i

00:35:15.740 frankly there's a component of me that i don't want to win the presidency if we don't have congress

00:35:19.580 in the senate because i'll probably be up on charges again and uh we'll get to go through

00:35:23.500 impeachment you know three four five six seven eight nine and you know for the next four years

00:35:27.980 uh and you know i don't think that's a great place to be but i think you know apathy has caused

00:35:34.620 us a lot of problems especially on the conservative side hey we run businesses and we do these sorts of

00:35:38.300 things and you know we want to spend time with our families and all noble things and important but

00:35:42.940 we have to take the initiative to get involved at every level of these things because the left has

00:35:48.060 taken over every major institution in our country that controls i mean what what they're what

00:35:52.860 they've done in education manipulating our children what they've what they've done in entertainment

00:35:56.940 oftentimes the same thing uh it it can't stand if we actually want to have have a future uh you

00:36:04.220 know our kids they they graduate their high schools with higher districts you know no one can read or

00:36:07.980 do math but you know they know the four thousand three hundred and seventy six genders and i imagine

00:36:12.300 since this interview started there's probably another 15 that i haven't included that so i don't

00:36:15.980 want to be labeled as you know whatever you intend to a gender bigot by by not including them but

00:36:21.740 that's that's the last i've been able to keep track of um we just live in in perilous times

00:36:28.700 it does seem kind of heartening i think he raised more money in the hours after the verdict than

00:36:33.500 anyone's ever raised how much you raised uh it's over i think 38 million dollars that you know in

00:36:37.740 the first couple hours uh small dollar donors and then there was a bunch of big dollar donor stuff

00:36:42.140 that's what's interesting i mean there's there are tech vc guys respected guys uh that you know hillary

00:36:49.020 donors and even probably biden donors they're like okay i've seen enough um you know stroking

00:36:53.900 you know six and seven figure checks now because you know i i think people who are watching closely

00:36:58.380 enough truly understand uh just how far uh we we have fallen uh just how close we are perhaps to that

00:37:07.100 you know fulcrum point where there's a there's a point of no return right yes uh and i think if we

00:37:13.180 ever let it get there you know there's no question in my mind that the democrat elite they'd maintain

00:37:16.860 and seize that power and you know it'll happen like all uh sort of you know communist nations and

00:37:23.180 that's where we're at and i think people see that and people who may not even agree with trump on

00:37:27.020 everything and you don't have to agree with trump on anything like that you know i obviously agree

00:37:31.500 with him on everything tucker as as the dutiful stuff but you know it's reached a level of principle

00:37:37.260 though yeah but it's like again you know name name a metric where we're better off under joe biden

00:37:43.340 you know we're on the brink of you know world war three with the world's largest nuclear superpower

00:37:47.740 by volume of nuclear capable you know ballistic missiles like i don't know we're going to keep

00:37:52.540 funding that we we're okaying uh you know a guy that was a former like weirdo actor to send the

00:37:59.340 u.s made missiles into russia provoking that i guess and maybe that's what it is maybe that's

00:38:03.340 the next distraction right you know covid was the distraction for 2020 to allow them to manipulate

00:38:07.740 things maybe world war three is the distraction you know for this election some of us called this

00:38:12.940 a year ago yeah the senile man can't win they're gonna bring us to war yeah i mean honestly like i

00:38:18.940 don't say that lightly but i also don't say it like i don't know like would i be at all surprised

00:38:25.100 not even i think it's lunacy i think it's crazy but do i think they would do it a hundred percent

00:38:30.940 a hundred percent do you think since you last question but it's just and i may be skipping ahead but i i

00:38:36.140 don't think we're far from well we're at war with russia oh of course if we're targeting whistleblower

00:38:41.260 talking about the boots on the ground i mean that like i've never seen a whistleblower disappear

00:38:44.460 that fast in my life yeah you wonder why i wonder why huh it's almost like it's happening but they

00:38:49.500 would need you know the military's in very tough shape and recruitment is way down no one wants to

00:38:53.820 join the training military understandably now they're talking about well who would right well why

00:38:59.180 would you who's gonna the guys you'd want fighting a war for you you know good patriotic red-blooded

00:39:04.380 americans they don't want to go report to your trans admiral not because if the trans admiral was

00:39:09.820 patent maybe they'd do it yeah the trans admiral ain't patent no okay the trans admiral is only

00:39:14.220 an admiral because they're trans not because they're competent or capable and it doesn't matter

00:39:17.980 it's grotesque but a big part of you know signing up for that and possibly dying for your country is

00:39:22.220 actually believing in the things that you're fighting for that's the basics of patriots that's

00:39:25.660 exactly and if you don't believe in those things and you understand that you're going to be vilified

00:39:29.580 uh you know you're going to be forced to not learn how to shoot but do diversity training

00:39:33.100 why on earth would you do that i wouldn't and that's the problem they're facing and so

00:39:37.740 you know the one solution was take illegal aliens and put them in the military so we could have or

00:39:43.020 flood our borders and you know put them in the voting roster and that's another way to make a

00:39:47.580 pirate because you've lost other demographics that were reliable voters but they're also talking about

00:39:51.100 the draft you're hearing that all of a sudden well maybe we need a draft yeah so we can be a never-ending

00:39:56.060 wars you know again uh what no no one's articulated to me and i kind of do this now feels like for a

00:40:03.340 living like no one's articulated what does victory in ukraine look like i don't know what it means

00:40:08.940 like i don't know is it just like perpetual death of ukrainians and russians until they're all wiped

00:40:14.140 out and you know black rock comes in there and takes over all the farmland i mean is is that what it

00:40:18.140 is because it i mean feels like that's what it is to me they're going to they're already selling off

00:40:24.460 land in ukraine to foreign investors and they will flood ukraine with third world immigrants and

00:40:29.180 ukraine will not exist in 50 years there'll be no ukrainian nation and we betrayed them like no

00:40:34.700 other country ever but i just ask would people actually serve in a draft i'd have a hard time

00:40:41.260 honestly what is the the metric i use for this is not just the recruitment numbers but the amount of

00:40:45.820 guys that i know you know you know i shoot a lot and whatever the circles are tight like that are like

00:40:50.540 fourth generation army they're like they're like i would beat the crap out of my son if he decided

00:40:55.660 to like these are guys that you know their entire ethos is around that that military background they

00:41:00.940 are great friends and they're like i know they wouldn't even think about it they they disowned

00:41:05.260 their children if they joined this military today and that's sad it's the worst that's scary

00:41:10.700 well godspeed thank you for that thank you man thanks for listening to tucker carlson show if you

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