Tulsi Gabbard is the single most famous freshman Democratic congresswoman in history. She is also the first woman in history to endorse a presidential candidate for the Democratic Party s presidential candidate, Donald Trump. In this episode, Tulsi talks about her path to becoming a politician, her rise to national stardom, and why she believes that Dick Cheney and his daughter should never be allowed to run for president again. She also talks about why she thinks that Donald Trump is the best person in the world to run against Hillary Clinton and why he should never run against her again. She also explains why she s on Team Trump and why you should vote for her. And she also explains how she got to where she is today and why it s important to vote for someone who s actually running for president. Thank you to Tulsi for coming on the show and for being on our first episode of The Most Interesting Thing of the Year. The most interesting and newsworthy television show of the year is coming here to TCN, coming in 2020. Stay tuned for Part 1 of our new series, The President Is Assassinated! coming soon! Subscribe to our new podcast, The Most Eye Opening Podcast! Subscribe, Like, Share, and Retweet it! Logo by Courtney DeKorte P.S. Thank you for listening to The Most Exciting Podcast of the Decade! -Tune in to The MOST IMPORTANT podcast of the DECADE! and Share it on Apple Podcasts and other social media platforms! And don t forget to let us know what you think of the most interesting podcast you're listening to this podcast? and leave us a review of the greatest podcast you've listened to so far! in iTunes! Tweet us what your thoughts and what your favorite podcasting experience of the past week has been listening to us on your thoughts, what s your favorite thing we should be listening about it? and what you would like to do next week on your next episode is the most important thing you think about it's most influential podcast! or what you're most influential moment of the podcast is most influential thing you've been listening about? or your favorite moment from the past day is most important to you'll be doing next week's podcast or your thoughts on the most powerful thing you're going to do in the next episode of the next thing you'll do next day's podcast update?
00:02:28.660They make her vice chair of the DNC before she even got to D.C.
00:02:32.400And everything's fine for about a year and a half.
00:02:36.900And one day there's a foreign policy debate about Syria.
00:02:40.900And Tulsi Gabbard, who has, you know, spent a lot of time in the U.S. military and known people who have been killed in these various wars,
00:02:47.060pipes up and says, is there a good reason to have yet another pointless war?
00:02:51.760And within about 15 seconds, Tulsi Gabbard goes from being the future of the Democratic Party to a dangerous fascist who must be imprisoned.
00:03:02.400And it was watching this that I realized, oh, that's what they actually care about.
00:03:09.220What they actually care about is the ability to continue to fight pointless wars because that's where all the money is.
00:03:18.660And if you don't believe it, maybe you haven't checked your phone today to see that Dick Cheney and his horrible daughter have endorsed Kamala Harris.
00:05:17.720But I'll stop and ask you what you think of it.
00:05:20.480I have a very simple message for my Democrat friends, my independent friends,
00:05:27.500those who may not be sure about who they're voting for in this election.
00:05:32.560Dick Cheney has just made the choice very clear.
00:05:36.980A vote for Kamala Harris is a vote for Dick Cheney,
00:05:40.420the architect of everything that has gone wrong in the Middle East for the last few decades.
00:05:47.600And so it's interesting because if you listen to the New York Times or some of the other mainstream media,
00:05:59.640they're saying, oh, you know, don't expect much from Kamala Harris in the way of policies and details and plans.
00:06:06.280And we're not going to know much about what kind of president she's going to be because she doesn't have much time.
00:06:10.680They're conveniently ignoring the fact that she's been there working in the White House the last three and a half years alongside Joe Biden.
00:06:20.440She's been the last one in the room, according to her, as these big decisions are being made.
00:08:08.400Like what do they think of this behind closed doors?
00:08:10.260This is, again, showing kind of the realignment where you have Adam Kinzinger and Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney supporting and endorsing Kamala Harris proudly.
00:08:21.120People who have been neocons and are neocons, not hesitating to say let's go to war in any and all situations, regardless of the cost and consequence.
00:08:31.340And then you have people like Bobby Kennedy and myself and others who are standing with Donald Trump, not because we agree on every single thing under the sun, but because we agree on the most important things, which are our, which is really about our ability as Americans to live and thrive in a truly free and prosperous society.
00:08:52.560And we cannot be free or prosperous unless we're at peace.
00:08:58.400I remember when the war in Ukraine broke out in February of 2022.
00:09:05.960And I just want to say at the outset, there are tons of people I respect and love and am related to who had very different views of that war than mine.
00:09:13.060I don't judge anyone who reaches different conclusions.
00:09:15.020But the one thing that I do judge people on is not caring about getting in a nuclear war.
00:09:22.160I just have too many children, I guess.
00:09:23.500And you were one of the first people to say, you know, whatever you think of this conflict or how it started or how it might end, we should be concerned because this is the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet.
00:09:35.120And we could wind up in a nuclear war that would kill everyone in the world.
00:09:39.220And I remember that you were denounced as like a Nazi for worrying about nuclear war.
00:09:53.740If they did care, they wouldn't speak so easily about the fact that we are closer to the brink of nuclear war than ever before in our country's history.
00:10:02.040I was warning about this back in 2019, 2020, when I was running for president, talking about this threat, how if we are continuing to wage what then I called a new Cold War, if we're continuing to increase tensions and heighten tensions with other nuclear armed countries in the world, the inevitable outcome of that is nuclear war.
00:10:23.240And we should all be very clear-eyed about what that means, that if a nuclear missile was headed our way, which, by the way, all of us in this country are within range of a nuclear missile, what happens?
00:10:36.960You might get an alert, go off on your phone saying, as we did in Hawaii, as you remember back in 2017, we had this missile alert that went off saying, missile inbound to Hawaii.
00:10:48.380Hawaii seeks shelter immediately, this is not a drill.
00:10:52.760And so for everyone across Hawaii that morning, there was that thought like, wow, I may only have 15 minutes to live.
00:11:00.800And just like we're sitting here in this hall here tonight, people may have been sitting on the beach, it was early on a Saturday morning, or making breakfast, or whatever was going on.
00:11:14.760And therefore, then there is the inevitable realities that if there is a nuclear war, it results in annihilation of all living things.
00:11:25.080And yet we, so I was talking about this and warning about this when I was running for president every single day, multiple times a day, every single town hall, trying to open people's eyes up and get other candidates for president to talk about this, get the media to talk about this, because no one wanted to do it.
00:11:41.320I even had a reporter who came up to me who was, you know, they have these reporters who follow the different candidates around, and she came up to me and she's like, Tulsi, you talk about this every single day.
00:11:54.760Don't you have anything else to talk about?
00:11:56.260What is there to talk about if we are in the midst of a nuclear arm again?
00:12:10.220And so fast forward to now where we are today, unfortunately things have gotten far, far much worse, not better.
00:12:15.220And you have these so-called security experts and defense experts and pundits on television being so dangerous and careless talking about nuclear war and we have these smaller nuclear weapons and we'll just go, we'll drop one and we'll send a strong message and talking about a nuclear bomb as though you can just go lob a nuclear bomb and there will be no consequence.
00:12:37.560And they are lying to the American people in doing so.
00:12:42.060It is so incredibly dangerous because it's not, that's not real, that's not rooted in reality.
00:12:48.160Ronald Reagan and Gorbachev said it best in 1985 when they issued that joint statement together recognizing this risk, saying that a nuclear war cannot be won and should never be fought.
00:13:01.180And yet we have the neocons, Democrats and Republicans alike, who are eager to push us into this potential of World War III that can only end in a nuclear war.
00:13:19.940No one alive has ever seen anything like this.
00:13:22.580But long before things started to really fall apart, the Heritage Foundation saw it coming.
00:13:27.740Heritage has pulled together a coalition of over 100 right-leaning groups to develop a comprehensive plan for day one that would include detailed policy proposals on the most pressing issues, the big ones.
00:13:38.740Securing the border, controlling inflation, cracking down on election fraud, protecting the rights of the individual and saving the nation from being crushed by woke anti-human ideology.
00:13:49.600The team at Heritage has also developed a plan to dismantle the deep state that keeps this nonsense going and reclaim this nation from the small group of technocrats that's broken everything.
00:14:00.680Heritage is also running a training and vetting program to identify effective conservatives to serve in the next presidential administration.
00:14:08.800People who will share your values, this country's values, and actually do the job.
00:14:13.540It can't just be the same pool of discredited people from Washington populating every administration.
00:14:20.740Heritage has a long head start, and they put in a lot of work already, but they need your support to finish the job and to support the incoming president.
00:14:28.220You can go to heritage.org slash Tucker and contribute to this important work today.
00:15:06.840I mean, there are a lot of people making a lot of money around continuing to, yes, it's fomenting fear, but continuing to push us closer because, okay, well, we have to build new weapons and more weapons and bigger weapons and more powerful weapons.
00:15:23.280As though, you know, we have over 5,000 nuclear weapons.
00:15:42.180And this is both what is so dark about this moment that we are in as a country, but also what should give us hope in this election is that it doesn't have to be this way.
00:15:59.560He has raised it behind closed doors and over and over again in public.
00:16:04.200The seriousness of the prospect of nuclear war and talked about his commitment to walking us back from the brink.
00:16:12.840So, really, the choice is ours as voters.
00:16:15.880And so, as you have conversations with your friends who may not know quite what to do or they're like, I don't know, you know, I don't like the way Donald Trump tweets or what he says, fine.
00:16:25.200Let's talk about our ability to live, live.
00:16:34.880So, I guess I'm repeating the same point again and again because it shocks me every single day.
00:16:41.160But the ruthlessness and the recklessness of the people currently in charge doesn't seem to have any boundaries at all.
00:16:47.660And I just am struck by the fact that our foreign policy, which most of us ignore, I spent most of my life ignoring foreign policy, does seem to be driving domestic policy.
00:17:00.280So, one of the ways that they tried to delegitimize you and threatened actually to criminally charge you was by claiming that you were somehow allied with a foreign government.
00:17:11.300We just saw indictments this week by the Biden administration meant to cast doubt on criticism of the Biden administration.
00:17:31.800I'm worried that if Kamala Harris wins, lots of people are going to go to prison on the grounds that they are somehow allied with foreign countries.
00:17:47.800And we've seen how both Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have no hesitation whatsoever to weaponize our Department of Justice and law enforcement in order to put their political, to punish their political opponents.
00:18:02.860You know, that press conference that Merrick Garland did announcing those indictments, you know, I wasn't surprised, frankly, to see them waving the Russia, Russia, Russia flag as they are revealing their concern that Kamala Harris might not win this election.
00:18:20.800But what I thought about was, gosh, this is what the attorney general and the FBI director was sitting right next to him.
00:19:34.460We were both getting this treatment, and I was honestly getting kind of pissed.
00:19:41.020There was a whole lot that went into it, but it wasn't until about a week later.
00:19:46.360I knew there was something going on because once or twice, yeah, okay, maybe, but six, seven, eight, nine, ten times in a row, clearly something was happening.
00:19:54.340And I talked to a TSA supervisor in one of these airports, and he's looking at my military ID card.
00:19:59.160He's like, why is this happening to you?
00:20:05.440And he's like, first of all, this is way above my pay grade.
00:20:08.360But what he shared with me was very revealing, and he said that he had a lot of friends who were Trump supporters who had no problems traveling.
00:20:16.260Then all of a sudden, all of them started getting this Quad S on their boarding pass.
00:20:20.820You've got to go 45 minutes through TSA and all this other stuff.
00:20:25.040And he looked at me, and he's like, there's something fishy going on here.
00:20:29.200And I was like, yeah, I think I should make some calls.
00:20:31.040And he said, you should make some calls.
00:20:33.180And he had no idea that I had anything to do with politics at all.
00:20:37.400As far as he knew, he had never heard Tulsi Gabbard before.
00:20:40.580He was just like, military, what's going on here?
00:20:43.220Air marshal whistleblowers came forward about a week and a half later and provided evidence.
00:20:48.820They took pictures of the targeting package.
00:20:52.620For those of you in the military, you know what that means.
00:20:54.660They took pictures of the targeting package that the TSA made for me that showed I had been added to the secret domestic terror watch list called Quiet Skies.
00:21:06.520And the words operational was on that targeting package.
00:21:11.320And unbeknownst to me, I had a little bit of an idea, but unbeknownst to me, for those last week and a half or two weeks,
00:21:18.160I had had at least three federal air marshals following me and traveling with me everywhere I went.
00:21:29.960I was getting swabbed for traces of explosives, not only in the initial going through TSA, but again before even boarding the plane at the gate.
00:21:38.940I told the guys at the gate, I was like, they just checked me like 10 minutes ago.
00:21:46.160Clearly, this was an act of political retaliation for my criticisms and warning the country about what kind of dangerous President and Commander-in-Chief Kamala Harris would be.
00:22:02.700But I've heard from people who have confirmed that my targeting package is still operational.
00:22:10.680So, I mean, you're an Army officer, you're a sitting member of the United States Congress, you're a presidential candidate, and you're on the terror watch list.
00:22:21.180So, and there's nothing you can do about it.
00:22:23.640So how is that different from any other secret police force in any other country?
00:22:31.240And if we had an attorney general who cared about our freedom, our civil liberties, about the integrity of a democratic republic, where we can speak our mind and express ourselves and criticize our own government, guaranteed by our First Amendment right, perhaps our attorney general and the FBI would be investigating these acts of abusive power and political retaliation.
00:22:56.240Well, yeah, because if you boil it down, what it means is if you criticize Kamala Harris, people with guns follow you around.
00:23:11.220I mean, there's an FBI agent who was a whistleblower because he could not stomach anymore what he was seeing, which was how the FBI was being told to send out heavily armed SWAT teams to go and kick down doors of peaceful pro-life protesters in the middle of the night.
00:23:32.520But this abuse of power and how the very first counterterrorism, head of counterterrorism the FBI had, he is retired now, but he came out and said it sickens him because the FBI has essentially become the police arm of the Democratic Party.
00:23:50.760So how is this any different from Venezuela or any other country that's being run by a dictator or an authoritarian leader?
00:23:58.420And so, you know, the hypocrisy is so rich.
00:24:02.260Again, going back to the Cheneys, they say that they have to vote for Kamala Harris because Donald Trump is the greatest threat to our democracy.
00:24:12.500I don't know how they say this with a straight face.
00:24:16.500When the current regime has a secret police force that has people with guns hassle its critics, that imprisons its critics, that tries to silence half the country for criticizing them, but Trump, because he criticizes them, is the main threat to democracy.
00:24:35.880And he has the audacity to talk about things like, hey, we should not be waging regime change wars.
00:24:44.900We should not be sending our men and women in uniform to go and fight unnecessary, counterproductive wars of choice.
00:24:52.260That's really why they're coming after him.
00:24:54.340I just got to, I just back up one moment.
00:25:00.020So we know that the FBI has been utterly politicized.
00:25:03.540It doesn't mean every field agent is corrupt.
00:25:07.020It means the leadership is utterly corrupt and it's being used as the, as you said, the police arm of the Democratic Party.
00:25:12.360So here you have the Republican Party, which controls the House of Representatives and its speaker, Mike Johnson of Louisiana, just refunded the FBI and built them a new building, just rewarded them for this behavior.
00:25:25.360So you have to kind of wonder if the Republican speaker is on the same side as the police arm of the Democratic Party.
00:26:25.760But, but this goes to what you're, what you're talking about.
00:26:28.220If we don't have leaders with courage who are committed to the Constitution and the interests of the American people first and last,
00:26:38.800then we end up with what we have in the permanent Washington establishment with people who are more concerned about not ruffling feathers
00:26:46.580than actually rooting out the deep rot of corruption that has long existed in our government across Democrat and Republican administrations in Congress.
00:26:56.000That's what we have the opportunity to fix in this election and to begin to start to get things right.
00:27:05.220Some of the most important things in life are also the easiest to put off.
00:27:10.060You think about them, you think about them, they seem time-consuming and hard.
00:27:13.320They're not actually time-consuming and hard, but you just don't do them.