This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #658 - Mike Tyson (Live at the Wiltern)

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00:00:30.000 Gang, gang, baby, praise God.

00:00:40.180 Good to see you guys tonight.

00:00:41.260 Thank you for coming out.

00:00:42.540 And, um, you know, this podcast has given me like just so many, uh, little moments in

00:00:50.460 my life that have been so special.

00:00:51.560 And, um, and tonight is certainly no different.

00:00:55.480 like, you know, it's rare that you get to sit across from one of the most recognizable people

00:01:01.820 in human history. This is a man who's been the heavyweight champion of the world, okay? The

00:01:08.620 entire world. He's been everything. He's been a father. He's been a dang inmate. He's been a drug

00:01:17.560 dealer. He's been a... But I'm just saying, this is a man who has done, I mean that admirationally,

00:01:23.740 honestly uh he's been a father he's just done so many things um life has put so much on his

00:01:30.880 shoulders and uh and I'm curious to know what that's what it's like um to be him you know and

00:01:37.380 I'm grateful to get to spend time with him today uh I feel very fortunate to announce today's guest

00:01:43.100 is Mr. Mike Tyson

00:01:44.680 Thank you.

00:02:14.680 You look sharp, Mike.

00:02:27.500 Thank you.

00:02:28.200 Thank you very much.

00:02:29.260 I went to Stefano Ritchie because I knew I was coming here.

00:02:32.360 I wasn't going to wear a suit.

00:02:33.760 I was going to be casual, but I had to be casually sharp.

00:02:36.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:37.460 I think you did it, man.

00:02:38.980 Thank you.

00:02:40.000 Do you like dressing up or not?

00:02:42.820 I love it.

00:02:43.720 You do?

00:02:44.640 I do it just for no reason.

00:02:45.880 I'm in my closet just trying on clothes.

00:02:48.380 Yeah.

00:02:49.580 Like a little mannequin, kind of?

00:02:51.800 Or like a very tough mannequin?

00:02:54.100 No, it's like a real-life stud just trying on his clothes.

00:03:01.340 You like putting on stuff.

00:03:02.320 Have you always been like that, or was that kind of...

00:03:04.000 You know, let me tell you a story.

00:03:05.200 One day, these guys, they pretty much bullied me to help them.

00:03:11.240 That's how I fell in love with pigeons.

00:03:12.420 to help me build that pigeon coop.

00:03:15.260 And so I started coming there often.

00:03:17.740 But I was, what, 11 years old.

00:03:19.840 I never knew about washing and changing clothes.

00:03:22.260 My mother would take a hot washing cloth,

00:03:25.120 put soap on the towel, and just wash me.

00:03:27.400 I never washed myself.

00:03:28.840 So after being on the pigeon coop,

00:03:30.900 I have tar from building the pigeon coop.

00:03:32.580 I got shit on me.

00:03:34.180 Some guys took me to this neighborhood dance.

00:03:37.920 And everybody said, yo, John, hey, Winky,

00:03:39.920 this your friend?

00:03:40.460 He got shit on me.

00:03:41.500 And then everybody started laughing at me.

00:03:43.880 I started laughing.

00:03:44.720 I was crying.

00:03:45.520 They were talking about me.

00:03:47.080 And ever since that, I became a criminal.

00:03:50.360 I only bought nice clothes.

00:03:54.160 There's something.

00:03:56.620 Isn't that crazy?

00:03:57.540 I became a criminal to buy nice clothes.

00:03:59.560 No one can ever laugh at me again.

00:04:01.720 Now every time somebody says, wow, you look nice.

00:04:05.080 Yeah.

00:04:05.520 You're under arrest, but you look great.

00:04:07.140 Yes.

00:04:07.440 Oh, I love those pictures.

00:04:08.920 Oh, those are the great ones.

00:04:10.280 Yeah, there's something more respectable about a criminal that is well-dressed, isn't there?

00:04:15.660 He becomes the rogue that we love.

00:04:18.420 It becomes the what, is it?

00:04:19.420 The rogue that we love.

00:04:21.100 The rogue that we love.

00:04:22.240 Rogue.

00:04:22.960 R-O-G-U-E?

00:04:23.920 Yes, sir.

00:04:24.600 Yes.

00:04:27.380 Thank you for joining me today, Mike.

00:04:28.580 I appreciate you, man.

00:04:29.400 And thank you for just, you've shared a lot of your life with the world.

00:04:33.380 Is it sometimes scary how much you've shared?

00:04:37.080 I have to direct you for a moment.

00:04:39.280 You had one made a mistake and called me a drug dealer.

00:04:42.540 I don't have the discipline to be a drug dealer

00:04:44.800 because I keep getting high on my own supply.

00:04:47.160 I wish I had the discipline to be a drug dealer.

00:04:49.800 I would be rich.

00:04:51.460 Like, everybody wants to buy.

00:04:52.720 The cops, everybody want to buy from me.

00:04:55.240 God damn.

00:04:56.320 I was, oh, man.

00:04:58.440 I'd have bought Coke from you.

00:04:59.780 Oh, thank you.

00:05:01.540 Thank you.

00:05:02.220 You're welcome.

00:05:02.940 Thank you.

00:05:04.300 You were going to say what?

00:05:05.180 I interrupted you.

00:05:06.060 I enjoyed getting high.

00:05:07.680 Getting high was my life.

00:05:10.200 Alcohol, too, but both of us, my life at one time.

00:05:12.980 I love, man.

00:05:14.080 I was sober.

00:05:14.900 I'm sober for nine years.

00:05:15.900 Believe that?

00:05:16.640 Sober for nine years?

00:05:17.280 Congratulations.

00:05:21.480 Sober for nine years.

00:05:23.320 On the count of three, can we both say our favorite drug,

00:05:25.560 if you want to say it at the same time, or is that weird?

00:05:28.840 Hey, man, I'm an equal opportunity.

00:05:34.080 I didn't have no favorite drug.

00:05:35.740 You didn't have a favorite, huh?

00:05:36.820 No.

00:05:37.180 Anything that got me out of me, I like

00:05:40.840 Anything that got you out of you

00:05:42.560 Yeah

00:05:43.080 Yeah, there's something about being yourself

00:05:46.620 It just gets to be too much, doesn't it?

00:05:48.220 Too much power, man

00:05:49.100 God gave me more than you can handle

00:05:50.780 You think that God put too much power in your hands?

00:05:53.380 No, no way

00:05:54.320 God broke me before he crowned me

00:05:56.060 Of course I'm going to be able to handle

00:05:57.820 He doesn't do that

00:06:03.180 Say, hey, you're a cool kid

00:06:04.320 Take that, boom

00:06:05.200 He doesn't do that

00:06:07.220 You know I've sat across from like different folks

00:06:10.200 And uh but nobody I think

00:06:12.180 Has had like like on their own face has so many

00:06:14.260 Like you have a lot of scars on you that are just

00:06:16.240 Built into you from like wars

00:06:18.380 Right do you ever look at

00:06:20.260 Your own face and you can know do you know like

00:06:22.140 Which ones are from which fights and stuff

00:06:23.780 I think you know listen that's interesting

00:06:26.080 That you said I think I think it comes

00:06:28.240 From accumulation of fighting

00:06:29.760 You know you don't wake up overnight and you got

00:06:32.260 A line on your face

00:06:34.280 it comes out for years and years of waking up

00:06:36.260 and you say, wow, I got a line on my face.

00:06:38.320 Okay.

00:06:38.860 Which was the, which was the start,

00:06:40.520 which was the start of 10 years ago.

00:06:42.740 But you just haven't seen it yet.

00:06:45.100 Oh, so he kind of gets worn in, sort of.

00:06:47.980 Oh, absolutely.

00:06:48.860 Yeah, pretty much.

00:06:50.400 You have a documentary that you're starting

00:06:52.520 that's coming out this year on Netflix.

00:06:54.700 Is that right?

00:06:55.180 I believe so.

00:06:56.160 I don't know when it's coming out,

00:06:57.340 but I believe it's coming out of the same.

00:07:00.040 Okay.

00:07:01.160 You've done a lot of documentaries.

00:07:02.520 Do you feel different about this one?

00:07:04.580 Do you feel like there's something different to offer now

00:07:09.320 to people that are going to consume it?

00:07:13.200 That's interesting that you say that.

00:07:15.000 I'm going to give you an honest answer.

00:07:17.240 There's things that people believe that other people want to hear from me

00:07:20.660 that I've been saying constantly since the beginning of interviews.

00:07:24.120 So it's more their perspective than it is my perspective.

00:07:28.640 I may think it's shit.

00:07:30.220 They may think it's a masterpiece.

00:07:33.140 So, no, I'm serious.

00:07:34.920 Yeah, no, I'll hear you.

00:07:35.720 It's all perspective.

00:07:36.600 You know, most of us don't like ourselves on the, you know,

00:07:39.340 we don't like ourselves up to that much, you know.

00:07:41.800 But, you know, the people do, I guess, right?

00:07:45.380 You can't help it that you're very, that everybody came to see you

00:07:48.340 and you're very popular.

00:07:49.020 You can't help that.

00:07:49.820 Not your fault.

00:07:52.400 You think it's your fault, really, that you're like this?

00:07:54.860 No, I think it's interesting.

00:07:57.120 Yeah.

00:07:57.740 Me too, yeah.

00:07:58.960 Yeah.

00:07:59.360 I can tell that you feel that way.

00:08:00.660 If you had a

00:08:02.220 If there was a time

00:08:03.040 In your life

00:08:03.500 That you could go back to

00:08:04.540 And had

00:08:04.880 A documentary crew

00:08:07.360 That just in your own life

00:08:09.420 Like in your childhood

00:08:10.040 Or anything

00:08:10.400 That you could just have

00:08:11.540 That footage

00:08:12.060 What would it be?

00:08:12.700 Would it be when I first

00:08:13.680 Met my mentor

00:08:14.380 Custodardo

00:08:15.240 I mean first

00:08:16.740 When

00:08:17.000 I met when I first

00:08:18.180 You mean the first day

00:08:19.020 No when I first

00:08:20.080 Got in trouble

00:08:20.820 And I was in that

00:08:21.900 June out of detention

00:08:22.900 I was doing stuff there

00:08:24.160 And then I started boxing

00:08:25.460 I started changing my life

00:08:26.560 Then I met him

00:08:27.500 That's the part

00:08:28.280 I wish he could come back

00:08:29.420 Yeah

00:08:29.980 I miss that.

00:08:31.480 What was it about it that...

00:08:32.640 I don't know.

00:08:33.120 I had somebody I loved, and they loved me.

00:08:35.840 How'd you know that he loved you?

00:08:37.180 Oh, fuck.

00:08:38.040 Don't let me tell you.

00:08:38.760 He, um...

00:08:42.760 If...

00:08:43.720 Oh, if anybody say something...

00:08:45.560 If anybody say...

00:08:47.760 No, it's okay.

00:08:49.420 Look, it's hard to know.

00:08:51.740 Sometimes it's hard to know.

00:08:52.980 No, if anybody say something negative about me,

00:08:55.860 he would attack them.

00:08:58.200 75, he would attack.

00:08:59.980 So we protected you.

00:09:05.900 Yeah.

00:09:07.560 And why are you having me talking about this bullshit?

00:09:09.560 It's stop.

00:09:10.500 Stop.

00:09:11.760 Stop, motherfucker.

00:09:13.680 Stop.

00:09:15.220 Stop.

00:09:15.480 Yes, sir.

00:09:16.200 Yes, sir.

00:09:17.380 Stop.

00:09:18.440 Shouldn't the bell, shouldn't we go back to the corners for a minute?

00:09:24.100 No, I think it's just interesting.

00:09:25.820 Like, there's times in your life where people come along and they kind of, like, hold you up by the neck and, like, you know, kind of dry your cheeks and stuff like that and give you a place to be.

00:09:35.860 Everyone needs a mentor in their life.

00:09:38.480 Everybody.

00:09:39.340 Even if you got a bad mentor, that's better than having no mentor.

00:09:43.060 What was it, like, with Cuss outside of the ring?

00:09:46.520 What was that like?

00:09:47.320 Like, what was that energy?

00:09:48.060 Because their family adopted you or no?

00:09:49.780 Yeah.

00:09:50.340 They did?

00:09:50.680 Yeah.

00:09:51.000 Did you have your own room?

00:09:52.580 Well, I had to earn that.

00:09:53.920 You did?

00:09:54.300 You had to earn it.

00:09:54.720 I had to earn that, yeah.

00:09:55.640 And how did you earn it?

00:09:56.640 Like, what was that like, you mean?

00:09:57.720 I had to do my chores.

00:09:59.080 I had to, you know, get my grades up.

00:10:02.320 You know, I'm getting C minuses, so I'm getting Ds now.

00:10:06.800 I'm getting Ds.

00:10:07.880 I'm coming up.

00:10:09.100 Teachers are writing nice letters back at home about I'm improving, all that crap.

00:10:13.720 So, yeah, he loved that stuff.

00:10:16.140 And was there stuff around the house that you had to do?

00:10:18.460 Like, what kind of chores?

00:10:19.080 Oh, I cleaned the dishes.

00:10:21.180 I took out the garbage.

00:10:22.320 I mopped and sleeped the floor.

00:10:24.100 Yeah, I did the whole thing, man.

00:10:25.640 Like, what was the different feeling that you got there, I guess?

00:10:28.060 Well, I felt I had to hold my head, and that was the structure I had

00:10:30.560 doing my tours, me building my discipline up.

00:10:33.780 After every train, every time I finished training,

00:10:37.040 I had to mop and sweep the gym, sweep and mop the gym.

00:10:40.680 Even when I was a big shot, I'd be in front cover of Sports Illustrated,

00:10:44.200 I'm taking all the pictures, boom, all day, the cameras,

00:10:47.260 everybody's looking at me, at the end of the day,

00:10:49.400 they're brooming the mop through the gym.

00:10:53.480 Amen.

00:10:55.640 Whenever, because he passed away,

00:10:58.960 how long was he in your life for?

00:11:02.040 Since I was 12, so I was 19.

00:11:05.180 And when your career grew, did you guys,

00:11:07.440 did it put any, like, was it harder to be close to him?

00:11:09.640 Like, did you get, like, so kind of, like, busy

00:11:12.560 that you, that it was tougher to...

00:11:14.740 You know, let me explain something.

00:11:16.020 He was like my father.

00:11:16.980 He was my adopted father, legally adopted father.

00:11:19.920 I wasn't out of his sight much.

00:11:23.040 He didn't let me out of his sight much.

00:11:24.780 And he watched you out.

00:11:26.540 He was my everything.

00:11:29.880 If anybody said something negative about me,

00:11:32.280 actually, he'd have to duck these stuff on the porch.

00:11:35.120 He was just like that.

00:11:37.580 And had you felt that before in your life, you think, or no?

00:11:40.140 Never, never.

00:11:42.240 If he told me to kill somebody, I would.

00:11:45.440 No, I'm telling you, that's how it was.

00:11:46.980 That's how deep it was.

00:11:48.080 He said, kill that boy, he's dead.

00:11:49.820 Yeah, tight shit, man.

00:11:50.720 People got to go.

00:11:52.580 Yeah, no, but that's

00:11:54.060 I'm just keeping it real

00:11:55.340 That's real talk

00:11:56.260 That's real talk

00:11:57.280 So the connection was

00:11:58.580 It was just that much

00:11:59.660 Yeah, sure

00:12:00.900 After he passed away

00:12:02.720 Did you try to find

00:12:03.660 Like another

00:12:04.260 Like custom model

00:12:05.500 There's nobody else like him

00:12:06.920 But was there a part of you

00:12:08.020 That was looking for

00:12:08.840 Something like that?

00:12:09.560 Not like that

00:12:10.140 No, it doesn't exist

00:12:11.280 That part was filled in?

00:12:13.480 Yeah

00:12:13.880 He was born only for me

00:12:16.080 He was what?

00:12:17.420 He was born only for me

00:12:18.780 Oh, you feel like

00:12:19.960 He was made for you

00:12:20.840 oh that's awesome and he probably felt that about you I bet well I hope so hope so have you had the

00:12:29.060 opportunity to try and be that for somebody else in your life or like do you feel like you have

00:12:34.200 some of the same like like capabilities that he had it takes a special person to be that type of

00:12:39.300 person and we're all special in different ways I'm nowhere near the person that he was no we're born

00:12:44.620 from two different structures and fibers.

00:12:47.200 He's just a total disciplinarian.

00:12:51.100 He's just, he almost wants to be perfect.

00:12:54.400 He hardly makes any mistakes around people.

00:12:56.800 He won't do any.

00:12:57.620 He just wants to be right at every moment.

00:13:00.820 You know, he puts himself in a position to be right.

00:13:03.220 He's just, I could say megalomaniac,

00:13:06.420 but he was just a disciplinarian person.

00:13:09.940 Sometimes he'll go with your Southeastern.

00:13:11.820 He gets out of half.

00:13:13.040 I'll start beating for a week.

00:13:14.620 Sometimes eat what?

00:13:15.360 I'm sorry.

00:13:15.680 I'm going to move your mic.

00:13:16.900 He just may stop.

00:13:18.500 He just may stop eating for a week.

00:13:20.980 Just stop.

00:13:22.340 Just stop.

00:13:23.120 My wife does the same shit.

00:13:24.720 You got this in here.

00:13:27.540 And Mike, she was flagging me from back there.

00:13:30.220 Was she really?

00:13:30.940 She was.

00:13:31.440 Oh, that's some bullshit.

00:13:34.420 I knew that, right?

00:13:35.980 You see, I knew that shit.

00:13:38.000 I know that shit.

00:13:39.720 Kiki, do you love me?

00:13:41.460 She loves you.

00:13:43.520 That's what it's like.

00:13:44.400 If you love somebody

00:13:45.240 You gotta keep them clean

00:13:46.200 You know

00:13:46.700 I hear you

00:13:47.420 Can you say that last part though

00:13:50.200 He was such a disciplinarian

00:13:51.480 Was he

00:13:51.960 Was he disciplined

00:13:52.980 In his own life

00:13:53.640 Like did he like

00:13:54.300 Did he ever

00:13:54.760 He was in the army

00:13:55.320 He was in World War II

00:13:56.260 Okay so he was very

00:13:57.160 He almost had an

00:13:57.760 Institutionalized disciplinarian

00:13:59.320 Like if I'm going

00:14:00.100 To a school dance

00:14:01.160 And it's like

00:14:02.480 What three miles away

00:14:03.540 And the taxi's a little

00:14:04.660 Late

00:14:05.180 I say

00:14:05.440 Cause the taxi's

00:14:06.300 Gonna be a little

00:14:06.720 Late

00:14:07.260 I can't stay up for you

00:14:08.260 Run home

00:14:08.980 Now

00:14:09.520 I went to

00:14:11.120 The girl

00:14:11.420 To wait for the cab

00:14:12.660 I said baby

00:14:13.420 You gotta wait for the cab

00:14:14.380 I got my shoes

00:14:15.160 I'm running home

00:14:15.820 Did you really?

00:14:16.780 I got to run home

00:14:17.760 Yeah

00:14:18.020 And dress shoes

00:14:18.960 Probably for the dance

00:14:19.760 I got to run

00:14:20.860 I got to run home

00:14:21.700 Get home now

00:14:22.660 Run

00:14:23.360 Click click click click click click

00:14:27.280 Dang

00:14:28.080 Right

00:14:28.460 It's hard to keep a girl

00:14:30.660 When you acting like that

00:14:31.820 I was too

00:14:33.000 Yeah

00:14:33.440 I was extreme

00:14:35.120 It was hard to have a girl

00:14:36.100 I was too extreme

00:14:36.920 With training

00:14:37.540 What was your

00:14:38.940 Relations

00:14:39.980 Like

00:14:40.720 Was it easy for you

00:14:43.080 To relate to girls

00:14:43.960 When you were young

00:14:44.600 Like to date

00:14:45.200 And that kind of stuff

00:14:45.860 No way

00:14:46.120 It was

00:14:46.900 Listen

00:14:47.600 It was all about fighting

00:14:49.940 It was all about fighting

00:14:52.300 Oh so you really set

00:14:53.700 You weren't even

00:14:54.400 Trying to date

00:14:54.960 Or anything

00:14:55.180 As a youngster

00:14:56.120 Yeah I dated

00:14:56.780 Kind of late

00:14:57.620 In life

00:14:58.280 Yeah because

00:14:58.700 I was

00:14:59.220 I used to

00:14:59.740 Feeling up with fighting

00:15:00.800 I talked to a girl

00:15:03.560 I'm talking about fighting

00:15:04.400 She's talking about what

00:15:05.380 Yeah

00:15:06.000 Yeah they don't want

00:15:09.340 To see you shadow boxing

00:15:10.620 Yeah

00:15:11.140 Because they want to hug

00:15:13.560 I mean, they like the part when the ref tries to separate them.

00:15:15.760 No, no.

00:15:16.240 They don't mind seeing me shadow boxing, but they want to talk deep.

00:15:19.920 I want to talk about fighting.

00:15:21.080 You loved it that much.

00:15:22.280 Oh, yeah.

00:15:22.980 I loved it.

00:15:24.100 I loved it.

00:15:25.260 Why was it such a magnet for you, do you think, fighting?

00:15:28.060 I think because when I was young and I watched some of the big time fights,

00:15:31.400 I think it was just the way the crowd rooted for people's names.

00:15:34.840 I wanted them to root my name one day.

00:15:37.900 Yeah.

00:15:38.380 That's cool, huh?

00:15:39.860 Did you feel, like, yeah, why did you, like, it's interesting.

00:15:42.700 some people had this feeling they need they want somebody to see them right or or they want to have

00:15:50.000 they want to have a say in the world like did you feel like you like were missing part of that like

00:15:54.340 were you not being seen or do you know i guess when the custom model told me i'm the greatest

00:15:58.220 fighter since the beginning of life so i was 12 he told me that at 12 and you believed him yes

00:16:05.560 because you trusted him yes wow that's pretty powerful that it would just be able to you be

00:16:11.060 able to envelop that that much.

00:16:12.520 No, how can you pick a kid 12 years old,

00:16:16.940 tell him you're the greatest fighter in the world,

00:16:18.920 and you're looking at him like he's some old pervert guy

00:16:21.300 trying to do something, you know?

00:16:24.380 I'm with me, I'm a thief, I'm a crook.

00:16:28.080 I'm some fucking world greatest fighter of all time.

00:16:31.000 So I thought this was some kind of trick.

00:16:32.840 The youth center was trying to pull on me.

00:16:35.320 Oh, yeah, yeah, those youth centers.

00:16:37.700 So this guy turned out to be the real deal,

00:16:40.180 and I turned out to be Mike,

00:16:41.580 I'm like whatever the fuck people think I am.

00:16:44.260 Yeah, so he was the real deal.

00:16:46.340 Do you think if you hadn't had like,

00:16:49.020 because, you know,

00:16:49.800 I've heard you talk about being scared as a kid

00:16:51.640 and having like, you know,

00:16:53.140 your mother passed away when you were young

00:16:54.520 and when I've talked about some of that,

00:16:56.700 I'm just saying things that I...

00:16:57.900 You can talk about anything.

00:16:58.960 Okay.

00:17:00.160 Those are just some things that I know about you, right?

00:17:02.360 I don't know you,

00:17:03.240 but those are things that I know about you.

00:17:05.380 You may think you know about me,

00:17:06.580 but you'll figure them out now.

00:17:07.660 Okay.

00:17:08.340 Oh!

00:17:10.180 Oh, all right, all right, all right.

00:17:12.940 Thank you, Mike.

00:17:14.320 Thank you for spending time with us.

00:17:16.600 And with me.

00:17:17.700 Thank you.

00:17:18.440 I didn't think I was going to like you.

00:17:19.840 You've been a good brother.

00:17:21.000 Really?

00:17:22.240 Thanks, bro.

00:17:23.740 I appreciate that.

00:17:25.840 My wife told me, don't judge him, don't judge him.

00:17:28.180 I'm feeling where I am.

00:17:29.220 I said, don't judge him, don't judge him.

00:17:31.340 She's got a very, you could tell she's a very,

00:17:34.180 she has a good soul, your wife.

00:17:36.380 Yes, she did.

00:17:37.180 She believes in you.

00:17:38.740 Yes, she does.

00:17:40.180 do you think that you if you'd have been if you'd have had the things you needed as a child right

00:17:44.580 like the things that every child needs right like i don't want that stay away from me keep that shit

00:17:50.440 away from me i like i like to suffer you like the way it went i love to suffer i don't want no good

00:17:56.320 time right yeah oh you like the discomfort oh yes i like being i like being out of need

00:18:03.480 and i'm getting out of my comfort zone but if you'd have had those like if you had the

00:18:08.160 stereotypical things that people...

00:18:10.200 I would be a bitch.

00:18:13.120 Would you have been the heavyweight champion of the world?

00:18:15.860 No.

00:18:16.780 Wow.

00:18:17.200 The heavyweight bitch of the world.

00:18:20.400 I know.

00:18:21.220 I'd be wearing slippers during the day, probably.

00:18:24.440 I'd be wearing dang slippers during the day.

00:18:26.580 Yeah, my mother would baby me,

00:18:29.560 wouldn't allow me to fight and all that stuff.

00:18:32.020 It wasn't meant for me to have my mother.

00:18:34.400 Did she baby you as a kid?

00:18:35.460 What was she like?

00:18:36.180 Like, she was a drunk, she was a prostitute, but she was who she was.

00:18:42.960 You know, my mom, my mom had like an issue when I was a kid.

00:18:47.940 Like, she couldn't look at me because...

00:18:50.240 Why? What's wrong with you?

00:18:51.860 Oh, I know.

00:18:52.840 What's wrong with you?

00:18:54.080 You know something that we don't know?

00:18:56.700 I don't know shit.

00:18:59.440 But something was wrong with her.

00:19:01.400 She just couldn't...

00:19:03.400 like something that like when my mom was growing up like her dad like um would make him would make

00:19:09.300 them like put his food under their table under the door he he would not talk to my mom for like

00:19:14.620 for months at a time and he would go in and out of their house through the window that sounds like

00:19:18.340 a mental illness yeah right a mental illness what they call now a mental illness right right at the

00:19:23.900 time yeah it was just like kind of a reverse drive-through yeah dinner i guess i'm good with

00:19:29.660 Your dad, I swear.

00:19:31.800 But anyway, I'm just saying, like, there was just, like, so early on I realized I got to take care of myself, right?

00:19:38.540 Like, and I don't know if that was the truth, but inside of myself I made that decision.

00:19:41.800 Like, I probably was a kid for maybe 45 seconds, and since then I was an adult.

00:19:46.340 I don't care if I was two months old.

00:19:47.980 Does that make any sense to you?

00:19:49.180 Exactly.

00:19:50.120 You know, my wife is kind of shamanic, and she believes that we ask for our parents.

00:19:58.180 and then when I start believing

00:19:59.920 I said if I didn't have

00:20:00.760 the parents I had

00:20:01.640 I would never be me

00:20:02.900 I said she might got something

00:20:04.420 I never tell her

00:20:05.320 I'm saying it now

00:20:06.240 I said she may have

00:20:07.360 something there

00:20:08.020 I did pick those parents

00:20:09.540 if I didn't have those parents

00:20:10.600 I would be fucked up

00:20:12.100 she might be right

00:20:13.860 what's a nice memory

00:20:15.600 that you have with your mom

00:20:16.500 that was like

00:20:16.920 something you think about

00:20:17.880 that was like

00:20:18.360 kind of like a moment

00:20:19.340 that you kind of cherish

00:20:20.380 it was one

00:20:25.440 Christmas day

00:20:27.880 And her birthday was on Christmas.

00:20:29.460 Your mother's birthday was on Christmas?

00:20:30.860 I don't know how we got some money, but it was just a festival.

00:20:35.940 Her and her friends, they had food there, and we were eating food,

00:20:39.400 and we had never had that much food before.

00:20:41.860 And I don't know how they got the money.

00:20:43.900 I know it was something skullduggerish, but I'm sure.

00:20:48.460 Skulldugger, a little bit of skullduggery?

00:20:49.900 Yeah.

00:20:50.860 So I'm sure something that broke the law, but it was just a great moment.

00:20:57.740 And that's what I was accustomed to.

00:20:59.180 I was accustomed to the pimps, the criminals, the stick-up guys, the robbers,

00:21:03.300 all being over my mother's house and stuff,

00:21:05.260 because we were the house of crime.

00:21:07.140 I lived in the house of crime.

00:21:09.260 Where did you sleep?

00:21:10.080 Did you have your own room?

00:21:11.120 No, for my own room.

00:21:12.100 I slept on the floor in a blanket somewhere.

00:21:16.800 The beds are for the...

00:21:19.400 For the Johns?

00:21:20.400 For the Johns, yeah, exactly.

00:21:22.820 I was everything for the tricks, but yeah, the Johns.

00:21:25.100 The beds belong there.

00:21:26.280 We got a bell.

00:21:27.300 Are you for real?

00:21:27.980 I don't know if my brother or sister heard me.

00:21:30.200 They bring back memories soon.

00:21:31.860 A bad trip.

00:21:34.620 You slept on each other's backs.

00:21:36.240 One person had to lay down flat,

00:21:37.940 and the other person got to sleep,

00:21:39.400 and then you switched.

00:21:40.000 We didn't do that.

00:21:40.260 We had slept on different parts on the floor,

00:21:42.600 but, you know, you had to,

00:21:44.340 if it's hot, you had to air condition,

00:21:46.480 then you turned to big fan.

00:21:49.500 Oh, dude, I remember,

00:21:50.980 my mom would only let it be 80 degrees in the house, right?

00:21:54.500 And I'm like, well, that,

00:21:55.880 and at the time, when I was a kid,

00:21:57.000 I didn't know that that's pretty warm, right?

00:21:58.920 And so we would go get the cold water

00:22:02.340 and we would just put it all over the sheet

00:22:04.020 and then we would lay on it like that.

00:22:05.980 Make a little beach, go to Florida.

00:22:16.840 But it was fun.

00:22:19.140 Listen, right?

00:22:20.700 Poverty is just so beautiful sometimes.

00:22:23.840 If you can laugh at it, it's hilarious.

00:22:25.540 Oh, it is.

00:22:26.640 We had some fucking...

00:22:27.240 Nothing more funny than poverty.

00:22:29.000 Oh, dude.

00:22:29.760 It doesn't matter.

00:22:30.700 It doesn't care how rich or famous you get.

00:22:32.780 It still affects you.

00:22:35.360 It doesn't care how big you get.

00:22:37.620 Remember this?

00:22:39.200 It comes out.

00:22:40.140 Do you remember this?

00:22:42.940 Bro, I'll tell you something.

00:22:44.240 This is a little racial, but let's do it because...

00:22:46.940 Go for it.

00:22:48.860 We used to live like...

00:22:50.420 People would burn their trash in the ditch, right?

00:22:52.520 And so me and my buddy, William, we would get out there.

00:22:55.200 and my buddy Larry and we would get all wet

00:22:57.340 and we would run and jump through the smoke in the ditch

00:22:59.580 until we were pretty darker-ish, right?

00:23:03.340 And then, bro, we would kind of wait

00:23:06.260 until somebody drove by and yelled the N-word at us, bro.

00:23:14.040 The N-word, I hate this, say nigger.

00:23:17.640 Say nigger.

00:23:19.580 You don't say N-word for a bitch, say nigger.

00:23:21.920 All these people drove by and called us niggers.

00:23:25.200 Wait, wait, hold on.

00:23:26.320 That's what you don't say, man.

00:23:28.040 Do you need me to say?

00:23:29.200 If you need, I'm just, I don't want to do something.

00:23:31.060 I can't tell what's going on here, to be honest with you.

00:23:37.300 I mean, I'll jump through some.

00:23:39.740 I just need to say one thing and I'll be ashamed.

00:23:43.200 All right?

00:23:43.820 Yeah.

00:23:44.100 Say, I'm a nigga lover.

00:23:45.940 You need me to say it?

00:23:46.940 Yeah.

00:23:47.540 Say, I'm a nigga lover.

00:23:48.940 Go ahead, man.

00:23:49.580 But does it mean all of them?

00:23:52.180 Kind of, a little bit.

00:23:53.680 Even a rotten one

00:23:57.000 I don't know

00:24:00.520 I don't know if people think I should do it or not

00:24:02.440 Do it

00:24:03.700 Do it

00:24:04.600 Do it

00:24:05.500 Do it

00:24:06.440 Do it

00:24:07.360 Do it

00:24:08.340 Do it

00:24:09.320 Please

00:24:10.320 Please

00:24:10.880 Please

00:24:11.280 Please

00:24:11.720 Come on man

00:24:13.120 Stop fucking the show up man

00:24:14.560 You fucking the show up man

00:24:16.000 You right bro

00:24:17.100 Dang dude

00:24:17.940 Shit

00:24:18.520 I just

00:24:19.920 What can I say bro

00:24:22.780 I'm a n***a lover, bro.

00:24:25.760 God is great, brother.

00:24:27.220 God is great.

00:24:28.200 God is great.

00:24:29.520 Now, hold on.

00:24:31.900 Now, who is cheering for this?

00:24:37.960 I love this show.

00:24:40.920 I love this f***ing show.

00:24:43.580 Fuck, are we going to jail or not?

00:24:44.700 Are we okay?

00:24:45.120 Another knockout for Mike.

00:24:54.260 Here comes the podcast.

00:24:56.880 It's because he's got a new podcast.

00:24:58.280 He's trying to get me off the charts.

00:24:59.820 That's why.

00:25:02.160 Mike, people are going to be this.

00:25:03.860 And he's scared to say nigga love.

00:25:07.540 I don't know if those are the same thing.

00:25:13.120 Oh.

00:25:15.120 being a nigga look that nigga pussy's a motherfucker i'm sorry forgive me guys

00:25:22.880 hold on i'm sorry i mean i don't know i've had a little i don't you know i don't a little what

00:25:28.200 huh you have a little or did you have a little i don't know i think we should move on

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00:28:44.340 let's keep it on moving on up okay moving on up remember that's our dude remember when good

00:28:52.680 times was popping bro it was really good time dude i'll tell you a story so i'm in the airport

00:28:56.580 one time right jimmy walker uh the actor from good times right one of the great comedian

00:29:03.040 he's walking in the airport somebody starts yelling dynamite at him the police thought it

00:29:08.120 was like uh yeah they didn't see him oh they just see a couple uh a couple of bitches yelling

00:29:16.280 dynamite and they just jumped on him right and i laughed i didn't i could have helped and told

00:29:20.640 people was going on, but I had to, I was in a hurry. You know, I had to get to Cincinnati.

00:29:27.160 Yeah, good time. That was a good show. Dude, Janet Jackson was on there. Yes. Did you ever get to

00:29:32.360 meet Janet? Yes, I have. I did have a chance to meet Janet. And someone said, this is a rumor

00:29:38.120 that I heard that you and Michael Jackson closed down SeaWorld one night and had a party there.

00:29:43.080 Is that true? This is not true at all. It's not true. Don King told me that. He's a liar.

00:29:50.640 I'm joking, he didn't tell me that, but we knew if he did, he'd have lied about it.

00:29:57.600 He tells the truth by accident.

00:30:00.440 He tells the truth by accident.

00:30:05.760 Hey, man, yeah, it is what it is, dude.

00:30:08.200 But no, did you actually get to spend time with Michael Jackson?

00:30:10.840 Yeah.

00:30:11.960 What was he like as a person?

00:30:13.240 A splendid, beautiful person.

00:30:16.060 Hit behind all that stuff.

00:30:17.440 He was a beautiful, calm, humble person.

00:30:19.520 and I didn't like him

00:30:20.900 for a long time

00:30:21.520 because my friend

00:30:22.140 had called me

00:30:22.900 he said hey Mike

00:30:23.900 this is one of Mike's

00:30:25.080 producers

00:30:26.040 he said hey man

00:30:27.080 I'm over Mike's house

00:30:27.900 and once he said

00:30:28.700 now fuck that man

00:30:29.720 he disrespected me

00:30:30.900 he said

00:30:31.180 no I'm gonna fuck that man

00:30:32.660 Michael Jackson said all that?

00:30:34.140 I said that

00:30:34.800 oh okay

00:30:35.200 and then my friend

00:30:37.360 went like this

00:30:38.060 he said really?

00:30:40.140 he asked for me to call you

00:30:41.280 I said I'll be right there

00:30:42.500 boom

00:30:42.800 I was right there

00:30:44.600 I don't know

00:30:45.020 what was he like?

00:30:48.440 was he just like a

00:30:49.240 He was very shy.

00:30:50.280 He was very humble.

00:30:51.340 He was at the end of his, you know, he was dealing with that bad stuff,

00:30:55.120 that child stuff.

00:30:55.960 He was dealing with that.

00:30:57.000 He was really, and only there were four people at the house,

00:31:00.200 no friends, and it was just him.

00:31:03.180 I got to know him.

00:31:04.280 Ask about Tupac.

00:31:05.980 But I'm doing fine.

00:31:11.260 I love it, man.

00:31:12.380 You're beautiful.

00:31:13.680 I thought you were going to be some mullet, redneck.

00:31:15.940 You're beautiful, man.

00:31:16.940 You're beautiful.

00:31:17.660 I'm doing all right.

00:31:18.400 I feel lucky to be here with you today, man.

00:31:20.560 Beautiful.

00:31:21.440 Do you think Michael was involved in that kind of stuff when you got to know him?

00:31:24.920 Did you ever feel that about him or no?

00:31:26.300 I had a different opinion about him once I got to know him.

00:31:28.540 Got it.

00:31:29.340 Totally different opinion.

00:31:30.360 Dude, I read somewhere.

00:31:31.520 Actually, I didn't read it.

00:31:32.340 I'm lying to you.

00:31:33.300 One of my friends told me that he had some girls with him,

00:31:36.780 and you was inquiring, or these are your girlfriends,

00:31:39.740 and he said, get your own bitches to you.

00:31:41.360 Oh, he did.

00:31:42.340 I'm going to tell you what happened.

00:31:44.340 Please do.

00:31:45.220 I went to a Michael Jackson concert with Dog King.

00:31:47.980 He would say, come to Cleveland and meet my babies.

00:31:51.260 He would go see Michael.

00:31:52.340 So he called me.

00:31:53.100 I wanted to see.

00:31:54.080 So we walk into the show.

00:31:55.660 It's the last song.

00:31:56.460 We walk into the arena.

00:31:58.020 We walk down the middle of the aisle.

00:32:00.260 He goes like this to Don King.

00:32:01.800 Don King puts his hand up.

00:32:03.040 I go like this, and he puts his hand down.

00:32:05.360 And I say to myself, I know Michael is this.

00:32:08.000 And I say, no, he don't know.

00:32:09.480 He's a big performer.

00:32:10.860 He can't be thinking about me.

00:32:12.100 Of course not me.

00:32:13.300 So I go in the back.

00:32:14.500 And I'm in the back.

00:32:15.420 This whole staff is just loving me, loving the back.

00:32:17.980 The band guy gave me a stick.

00:32:19.620 Everybody called over me.

00:32:21.060 Mike's at the corner chilling like this with the door open.

00:32:23.800 I guess he's waiting for a car.

00:32:24.920 He's going to jump in the car.

00:32:26.280 And everybody's over me.

00:32:27.220 I think let me go over there and say hi to Mike, you know,

00:32:29.700 because I want to go see.

00:32:31.120 It was a good night.

00:32:32.080 I go over there.

00:32:33.120 Before I say anything, he goes, where did I know you from?

00:32:36.560 This is the biggest moment in my life.

00:32:38.900 I just beat Mike and speak.

00:32:40.080 The whole world's talking about nothing but me.

00:32:42.620 And he looks at me, where did I know you from?

00:32:44.560 You look familiar.

00:32:45.740 Where did I know you from?

00:32:46.620 And I said, no way, Mr. Jackson.

00:32:48.460 I was just a fan.

00:32:49.180 I said, you motherfucker.

00:32:50.880 I said, that was a good one.

00:32:53.760 I hate him ever since.

00:32:56.880 I hated him every day.

00:32:58.400 If my friend didn't call me to come over to the house and said, Mike called you, I would have never, I would have been hating him now.

00:33:03.940 Wow.

00:33:05.240 I can't believe he said that.

00:33:06.500 I was just a little kid.

00:33:07.600 He said that to me.

00:33:08.960 You think he was joking?

00:33:10.100 Oh, he was dead serious.

00:33:11.560 Wow.

00:33:12.340 He was dead serious.

00:33:13.480 You think he was very competitive?

00:33:14.720 He was.

00:33:14.940 Mike is too competitive.

00:33:16.540 He's not friendly with nobody.

00:33:18.660 Yeah.

00:33:19.040 Especially not in the music business if you don't bend your knee.

00:33:21.940 You got to bend your knee for Mike.

00:33:23.560 Well, yeah, he didn't even, he wasn't friendly even with black folks.

00:33:25.680 He freaking ended up white.

00:33:28.920 You got to be on, you know what I'm saying?

00:33:30.360 You got to have an issue.

00:33:31.320 Hey, but listen, anybody's going that route now.

00:33:33.940 I've seen a bunch of athletes and singers go that route.

00:33:36.600 Yeah.

00:33:37.420 The black turn white route.

00:33:38.960 Yep, that's, hey, Red Rover, Red Rover, come on, you know.

00:33:44.640 Send them over, bro.

00:33:45.720 Passing is passing.

00:33:46.940 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:48.940 What if, like, and some of this is just, like, lore stuff.

00:33:51.780 What about Whitney Houston?

00:33:52.860 Did you ever get to meet her?

00:33:54.300 I knew Whitney very well.

00:33:56.000 No way.

00:33:56.700 Yeah, I knew Whitney very well.

00:33:58.520 She came to visit me in prison.

00:34:01.020 When I was in prison, she came to visit me.

00:34:02.740 She did?

00:34:03.420 Yeah, one of my good friends.

00:34:04.820 And when was that, when you were in prison in New York?

00:34:06.780 I know, motherfucker.

00:34:08.040 I'm up in Indianapolis.

00:34:09.240 It's cold.

00:34:10.180 I was just checking to see if you remember where you were in prison at.

00:34:13.680 Yeah, I have a lot of...

00:34:14.920 Listen, I had a lot of really interesting visitors.

00:34:20.440 A lot of really interesting people.

00:34:22.020 Whitney came to visit you?

00:34:22.880 Did she sing for you or anything like that,

00:34:24.100 or did she just come and spend time?

00:34:25.020 No, she just came.

00:34:25.740 She brought her family.

00:34:26.940 Her and her family came, and they hung out with me.

00:34:30.080 Who else came to visit you?

00:34:32.360 I don't know.

00:34:32.900 Quite a few people.

00:34:33.760 You got some names and names or something.

00:34:35.640 What about Michael Landon?

00:34:37.600 He was dead, man.

00:34:38.820 Was he dead?

00:34:39.320 He was dead then.

00:34:40.320 Also, he had cancer back then.

00:34:42.040 So, listen.

00:34:43.100 Patrick Swayze.

00:34:44.520 He was dead, too, I think.

00:34:46.580 What?

00:34:47.440 Why all the white people die in your stories?

00:34:49.540 I'm starting to notice this, Mike.

00:34:51.260 Hey, Florence Henderson came.

00:34:54.080 No way.

00:34:54.560 He came, yes.

00:34:55.880 But listen to this.

00:34:56.840 She came to visit me, but I'm locked in the hole.

00:34:59.580 I had to fight with one of the guards.

00:35:01.540 So I'm not going to come out.

00:35:02.500 If you come out the hole, you got to come out chained.

00:35:04.320 So I said, I'm not going to come out like that.

00:35:06.220 I said, forgive me.

00:35:07.660 I didn't want to do that.

00:35:08.760 Because you didn't want her to see you like that.

00:35:11.080 I didn't want to see me in shackles and my feet and all that crap.

00:35:14.140 It looks crazy.

00:35:15.500 Yeah.

00:35:16.440 And when they put you into the whole, so I know it was like 23 hours of darkness, right?

00:35:20.300 And then one hour of light?

00:35:22.220 Or vice versa, the other way?

00:35:23.700 No, they just leave the light on all night.

00:35:25.620 Oh, the light's on all night?

00:35:26.520 Light on all night.

00:35:27.080 Oh, that's good.

00:35:27.660 I mean, at least in case you get up or whatever.

00:35:29.400 It gives you a fucking headache.

00:35:31.180 Oh, yeah.

00:35:31.740 You go 24 hours a day for like, what, 10 weeks?

00:35:35.200 Nuh-uh.

00:35:35.840 Yeah.

00:35:36.640 What starts to happen to somebody in there?

00:35:38.620 Like, is it anything helpful?

00:35:42.500 Yeah.

00:35:43.500 The peace, the solitude is healthy.

00:35:45.800 Very healthy, the solitude.

00:35:48.720 Because most of us, believe it or not,

00:35:51.300 are not able to be by ourselves for a long period of time.

00:35:54.580 You know, we haven't developed a relationship with ourselves

00:35:57.120 where we adore ourselves.

00:35:59.100 We can't stop being in our own presence.

00:36:03.640 And I guess that's the way to be,

00:36:05.020 constant happiness and love.

00:36:06.520 Even though we go to the badge

00:36:08.760 It makes that beautiful too

00:36:10.080 Yeah, I think

00:36:12.660 I don't know

00:36:15.020 In my life

00:36:15.660 I feel like in my life, my whole life

00:36:18.660 I was waiting for somebody to show up

00:36:20.720 Right? I don't even really exactly know

00:36:22.780 Who it was

00:36:23.460 But then recently I'm realizing that

00:36:25.880 I think I'm just waiting for me to show up

00:36:27.620 Does that make any sense to you?

00:36:29.760 I don't want to ask about this

00:36:31.200 You know what I mean

00:36:34.260 That's your narrative

00:36:35.360 how does that guy appear

00:36:36.960 how do you make that guy appear

00:36:39.040 right the first thing that I'm

00:36:40.980 that I'm learning for myself and some of this is

00:36:43.100 pretty recent is just like having some

00:36:44.980 integrity like you know if I say I'm

00:36:46.920 like because if I say I'm gonna do something and I don't

00:36:48.900 I hear myself do that right and so

00:36:51.000 after a while I don't even believe myself I think after

00:36:53.000 a while I couldn't even listen to myself because it's like

00:36:55.000 well how many times am I going to lead

00:36:57.080 myself on you know I don't know

00:36:59.000 if that's exactly true but I think that's the best

00:37:01.100 answer I have for that

00:37:02.140 it's always the power

00:37:04.280 power. It's always

00:37:06.400 the higher power. I'm from

00:37:08.160 the world

00:37:10.160 that you come from as well.

00:37:12.260 The recovery world.

00:37:14.220 And it's a battle. Some guys

00:37:16.140 are sober for 20 years and all of a sudden, boom!

00:37:18.160 They go to drugs and kill themselves.

00:37:20.560 It's a constant battle.

00:37:22.080 No one's ever a winner to the end of the day.

00:37:24.480 Until it's over and we're dead.

00:37:26.580 Then you won. If you ever do

00:37:28.220 any drugs and you beat the system that was

00:37:30.140 killing you, you're going to die, boom.

00:37:31.960 But sometimes these guys stop using drugs for

00:37:34.000 30 years and go back.

00:37:35.220 Yeah.

00:37:35.820 You know what I mean?

00:37:36.400 You just can't believe it.

00:37:38.120 So you're never safe.

00:37:39.840 Okay, you're never safe.

00:37:41.040 Yeah, nobody's going to get out of here alive.

00:37:42.920 I learned that in rehab.

00:37:44.300 Yeah.

00:37:44.720 It kind of makes it exciting, doesn't it?

00:37:46.860 It's kind of funny.

00:37:47.640 Nobody gets out of here alive.

00:37:49.500 As you get older,

00:37:50.300 one of the things that gets a little bit exciting

00:37:51.920 is dying because it's a new adventure.

00:37:55.000 I don't listen.

00:37:56.080 Does that make sense?

00:37:56.900 That makes too much sense.

00:38:00.600 Death is another part of life

00:38:02.100 we just never experienced yet.

00:38:04.000 You know, if life is good, how death could be bad?

00:38:06.820 Be honest.

00:38:07.640 If God loves us, how could death really be bad?

00:38:10.060 If we look at God the way we believe him to be, how could death be bad if he created it?

00:38:14.660 If we didn't think it was final, then how would we behave in this time that we're here?

00:38:19.480 Well, listen, God prepares us.

00:38:22.460 The universe prepares us to death.

00:38:24.700 You know, little by little, we lose our friends.

00:38:28.600 We lose people we care about.

00:38:30.180 We lose our hair.

00:38:31.000 We lose our teeth.

00:38:31.760 We lose our life.

00:38:32.620 it's nothing that happens

00:38:34.100 spontaneous

00:38:35.140 you know

00:38:35.620 it's meant to be

00:38:36.460 yeah we lose our ability

00:38:38.000 to be around black people

00:38:38.980 safely because I've said

00:38:40.120 the n-word

00:38:40.620 yeah

00:38:40.960 no you know what I mean

00:38:42.600 black people love you

00:38:43.540 you're a nigga lover

00:38:44.740 you're not a nigga hater

00:38:45.700 hey that's a good point bro

00:38:47.680 thanks for looking out for me

00:38:49.840 I hope they're not able

00:38:52.660 to cancel you on this show

00:38:54.160 you see we talked about niggas

00:38:55.780 niggas always got people

00:38:57.780 cancel

00:38:58.260 oh it never fails

00:39:00.660 a nigga will get you

00:39:01.860 The word nigga, the word.

00:39:05.300 Oh, it's great to see some equality at last.

00:39:08.800 Are you sometimes amazed, like when you look at your life,

00:39:11.000 how much grace God has had in your life?

00:39:14.060 I realize that if you don't believe in God, look at me.

00:39:18.320 Because I should not be right here talking to you.

00:39:23.520 No, you probably did not, man.

00:39:26.260 Listen, no, really, when I'm in my 30s,

00:39:28.860 I said, yes, God did a really dirty trick.

00:39:32.940 He allowed me to live to be 60.

00:39:35.280 God damn.

00:39:36.580 If I knew I was going to be 60, I would have played the game.

00:39:39.160 Yes, sir.

00:39:39.660 No, ma'am.

00:39:40.160 Yes, sir.

00:39:41.160 Fuck, you suck right there.

00:39:42.420 Fuck, yeah.

00:39:43.460 I went that route instead.

00:39:45.700 Fuck.

00:39:48.620 Imagine 60 years.

00:39:49.780 Yes, sir.

00:39:50.340 How you doing, man?

00:39:51.780 Oh, I'd walk right up to heaven like this, bro.

00:39:54.860 I'd walk right into heaven, man.

00:39:57.000 Sit at my table.

00:39:57.820 Yeah, I think there's something about when you feel like you're doing everything yourself.

00:40:02.780 Did you feel like that as a kid?

00:40:05.100 I'll figure this out.

00:40:06.280 I'll handle it.

00:40:07.620 Did you have that chip on your shoulder?

00:40:09.960 I had a mentor.

00:40:10.760 When I had my mentor, he taught me not to ever say anything negative about myself.

00:40:14.280 Really?

00:40:14.600 I want to say beautiful things about myself.

00:40:16.500 Customers taught you that?

00:40:17.360 Yes.

00:40:18.240 And what did he tell you exactly?

00:40:19.860 I want to say beautiful things about myself and never say anything negative about myself

00:40:23.680 because my subconscious don't know if I'm playing or not.

00:40:27.820 it's pretty isn't it wild how there's something no but i learned that at 12 years old i had to

00:40:34.100 learn that at 12 to be the champion at 20 you know if i learned it at 15 16 hey it probably

00:40:41.740 wouldn't have worked out there up in chapter 22 probably yeah everything worked out for the right

00:40:46.760 reason what was one of the hardest walks uh to the ring you ever had to make

00:40:53.200 all the walks are the same pretty much you know it becomes a routine

00:41:00.600 was there one that like you didn't want it or it's things had changed or you were like

00:41:08.040 i don't i don't know i've never been a fighter i always wanted it because um every time i got

00:41:12.980 in the ring when i lost my life changed and a good perspective for my family right you got you

00:41:18.440 providing for your family for sure that's all i know how to do when did you um when did you become

00:41:24.040 an adult excuse me oh that happened late in life that happened real late in life man i can't even

00:41:30.760 tell you man i wasn't probably who what 45 or something oh dude i freaking wet the bed i was 27

00:41:39.560 that's that's mental illness

00:41:44.200 yeah yeah it is but they don't say that they just call you mr drippy drop or whatever

00:41:54.240 They don't call you Mr. Pissy.

00:41:56.740 Pissy cool.

00:41:57.920 Pissy cool to the house.

00:41:59.840 They call you little yellow boy.

00:42:03.640 Hey, yellow boy.

00:42:07.580 But yeah, what do you think made you start to turn,

00:42:11.040 like, finally, like, I have to, I got to grow up,

00:42:13.460 or something happened, I'm becoming.

00:42:16.140 Because some guys took my pigeons and bullied me,

00:42:19.520 and that was the first time I fought back,

00:42:21.500 and it was like love that first fight.

00:42:23.460 I never stopped fighting ever since.

00:42:25.460 Some guy, they just...

00:42:26.580 He took it and he put my bird's head off.

00:42:30.020 What?

00:42:30.600 Yeah, he was a dirty, rotten kind of guy back there.

00:42:33.160 You remember him?

00:42:34.100 Yeah.

00:42:34.680 Who was he?

00:42:35.340 Gary Flowers.

00:42:36.520 Fuck him.

00:42:38.580 I'll never forget his name.

00:42:40.220 How could he do it?

00:42:41.420 You know, he was a young kid back then, rotten guy.

00:42:43.540 Being a bully, I was a little fat kid.

00:42:45.260 They bullied me all the time.

00:42:46.640 Yeah, but even if I saw a kid that was kind of like,

00:42:48.920 had some glandular issues or whatever,

00:42:50.880 I'm not going to break a bird's neck.

00:42:53.980 It's just, that's all about humiliating people.

00:42:57.160 Oh, it was like a humiliation thing.

00:42:58.640 That person was like.

00:42:58.920 Right, I'm going to make you feel this way.

00:43:00.940 Oh.

00:43:01.680 Did you ever get him back?

00:43:02.760 Oh, I beat the dog shit out of me.

00:43:04.300 Yeah.

00:43:05.880 I beat the dog shit out of me.

00:43:08.760 And that's the best thing I have,

00:43:10.060 because every day I fought,

00:43:11.080 I once fought three times a day.

00:43:12.520 I can't stop fighting.

00:43:13.620 I loved it so much.

00:43:15.000 And were you having trouble finding people to fight?

00:43:16.680 Oh, no.

00:43:17.080 They used to bring people for me to fight for money.

00:43:19.540 Oh, really?

00:43:20.420 Yeah.

00:43:21.240 And so who would get the money?

00:43:24.020 The guy would say, listen, if you win, you get this much.

00:43:27.260 If you lose, you get this much.

00:43:29.380 So no matter what, you made some money.

00:43:30.820 You made some money.

00:43:31.660 What's the first thing you kind of bought when you got a little money?

00:43:33.640 I don't know.

00:43:34.260 Some weed and some candy.

00:43:35.920 Yeah.

00:43:37.860 Weed and candy, bro.

00:43:40.200 That's what I'm talking about, bro.

00:43:42.440 I have the munchies ready for the munchies.

00:43:44.540 Now and ladies.

00:43:45.240 Can you ever eat now and ladies?

00:43:46.620 Dude, yeah, but they make your tea stick together.

00:43:48.480 I know, but it's good when you're high.

00:43:50.400 Yeah, you're right.

00:43:51.000 You're high, you don't mind.

00:43:52.500 You know, I know your teeth is out with in the gung.

00:43:55.680 You ever see that before?

00:43:56.800 Teeth is out in the now.

00:43:57.840 Oh, your teeth came right.

00:43:58.840 Oh, the shape of your teeth are in them?

00:44:00.160 Yeah, that shit was cool, bro.

00:44:02.660 I like that shit, man.

00:44:04.420 I really like that, man.

00:44:06.060 You ever had some black pussy?

00:44:12.000 What is...

00:44:12.960 Hey, I'm just...

00:44:18.640 I'm just asking, guys, between me and them,

00:44:21.340 please don't respond.

00:44:24.780 I mean, I've had, yeah, I mean,

00:44:26.520 during the holidays one time, I had a little.

00:44:29.580 That's true.

00:44:30.720 I'm not talking about no Jewish girl with a great tan.

00:44:33.360 I mean, a black girl.

00:44:35.760 Oh, I'm talking about some real, yeah,

00:44:38.120 some of that frickin', yeah.

00:44:41.540 I'm just saying, like, I'm just trying to think.

00:44:43.500 Yes, I had some.

00:44:44.640 I've had a little.

00:44:47.360 I've had a little.

00:44:48.140 I have had my

00:44:49.040 I have

00:44:51.040 Actually

00:44:51.620 Anything that you put

00:44:52.500 Halfway in

00:44:53.240 You put it all the way

00:44:54.980 In that

00:44:55.200 What is that little

00:44:56.020 You put it in a little

00:44:57.400 Or you put it in a lot

00:44:58.820 Or it's a little

00:45:00.960 When you put it in

00:45:01.880 It doesn't go in a lot

00:45:03.260 Oh

00:45:03.580 Like

00:45:04.680 It's more the hokey pokey

00:45:06.600 Okay

00:45:07.520 You go in

00:45:09.580 She comes out

00:45:10.300 Yeah

00:45:10.620 But I've had a little man

00:45:12.980 I've had a little

00:45:14.560 And I

00:45:14.880 Yeah I would

00:45:15.520 I would get some more

00:45:16.660 I would

00:45:16.920 yeah

00:45:18.500 I'd get some more

00:45:19.500 sometime

00:45:19.920 you know

00:45:21.160 what kind of black

00:45:21.920 women do you dream

00:45:22.620 about fucking

00:45:23.360 what's the body shape

00:45:24.480 name somebody's body shape

00:45:25.880 well some black women

00:45:26.880 you fuck them

00:45:27.760 and they fuck back

00:45:28.780 kind of you know

00:45:29.460 they got that

00:45:31.680 that vagina

00:45:32.360 kind of

00:45:32.800 it'll fuck you back

00:45:34.000 you know

00:45:34.240 it's almost like

00:45:34.720 when you

00:45:34.960 the last hundred years

00:45:36.980 ago that I fucked

00:45:37.740 a white girl

00:45:38.200 she did that too

00:45:39.100 so they do the same thing

00:45:40.700 but I almost try to

00:45:44.160 I was flirting

00:45:45.240 with this black lady

00:45:45.780 that worked at the airport

00:45:46.400 for a while, but they said move along eventually.

00:45:48.800 Did you get free flights?

00:45:52.240 No, I did not like that.

00:45:53.080 Did you get free flights?

00:45:54.000 Why didn't you mess with it then?

00:45:55.900 I'm not going to date no girl at the airport

00:45:57.580 and I'm not getting free flights, man.

00:45:59.220 Yeah, you're right.

00:46:00.580 You're right.

00:46:01.240 I don't know.

00:46:02.200 Look, man, maybe you'll set me up

00:46:03.340 with a good gal that you know.

00:46:04.540 I don't know any good girls.

00:46:07.000 I know good time.

00:46:08.320 I know being good girls, I give you good time.

00:46:11.120 Did you ever have like a...

00:46:12.380 Because Hollywood, people steal people's spouse

00:46:15.260 or girlfriends, boyfriends.

00:46:16.540 Did you ever have somebody

00:46:17.380 steal a girlfriend of yours here?

00:46:19.340 I'm sure they did,

00:46:20.480 but I just don't know about it.

00:46:21.720 You didn't?

00:46:22.280 Yeah.

00:46:23.460 I feel bad, actually,

00:46:24.480 because I was saying that question,

00:46:25.620 but I knew another question

00:46:26.680 I was going to ask.

00:46:27.380 Ask the best.

00:46:28.280 Somebody said that Brad Pitt

00:46:29.420 stole a girlfriend of yours one time.

00:46:30.580 No.

00:46:31.080 Oh, that's an interesting story.

00:46:32.600 Yeah.

00:46:33.420 All right.

00:46:35.520 No, it didn't steal it from me,

00:46:37.420 but when my wife was going to do a divorce,

00:46:40.540 when I get back,

00:46:41.040 but we were still fucking, right?

00:46:43.300 Okay.

00:46:43.820 We were always fucking every night.

00:46:45.140 we were still fucking

00:46:46.000 then we'd fight

00:46:46.800 in the paper

00:46:47.380 then we're fucking like

00:46:48.540 but one day

00:46:49.980 I went over

00:46:51.820 to her house

00:46:52.260 to fuck

00:46:52.680 because she wasn't home

00:46:53.560 and then

00:46:54.660 driving up the road

00:46:56.080 was the BMW

00:46:57.120 that I bought her

00:46:58.100 and she had some

00:46:59.300 I thought it was

00:46:59.900 one of her friends

00:47:01.120 from head of the class

00:47:02.160 but it wasn't

00:47:03.080 one of her friends

00:47:03.620 it was some nigga

00:47:04.460 Brad Pitt

00:47:06.180 trying to get some head

00:47:07.160 that's

00:47:07.380 Nuh-uh

00:47:07.820 Yeah so

00:47:08.580 That honk

00:47:09.880 he was with her?

00:47:10.640 Yeah

00:47:11.080 White mother

00:47:13.720 Damn

00:47:14.480 Damn, bruh, that honky was trying to slide, huh?

00:47:21.400 He's a dirty dog.

00:47:24.580 I love you.

00:47:25.660 The fact that we got to call Brad Pitt a honky is fucking hilarious, bro.

00:47:30.840 He's a beautiful brother.

00:47:32.120 But you caught him in the driveway?

00:47:33.680 Yeah, he was beautiful.

00:47:34.680 I was just...

00:47:35.800 Did you punk him a little?

00:47:37.760 No.

00:47:39.340 I guess he is Brad Pitt.

00:47:40.920 At least if your girl's going to be with somebody,

00:47:43.240 If it's Brad Pitt, that's okay.

00:47:47.180 Yeah, I guess you're right.

00:47:48.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:47:49.120 But he wasn't Brad Pitt yet.

00:47:51.060 Oh, he wasn't Brad Pitt yet?

00:47:52.020 No, I didn't know what the fuck he was.

00:47:53.640 He was just Brad?

00:47:56.480 Yeah.

00:47:58.120 And she was driving him.

00:47:59.440 He didn't have a car.

00:48:00.680 Oh, that's some Brad shit.

00:48:05.540 Brad never got a car, bro.

00:48:08.020 Name seven Bradts that have cars, bro.

00:48:10.220 None of them bastards.

00:48:11.940 Yeah.

00:48:13.680 Oh.

00:48:15.520 Have you been good at being in love, you think, over your life?

00:48:18.920 I've gotten so much trouble being in love in my life.

00:48:22.780 And love is so many entities, you know what I mean?

00:48:27.140 Love has been, you've gotten in so much trouble?

00:48:30.120 No, I don't have trouble with love.

00:48:32.320 I have trouble with me.

00:48:34.140 Love has nothing to do with it.

00:48:35.600 Love has trouble with you?

00:48:36.780 No, it's me with the trouble.

00:48:38.680 Love has no beef with me.

00:48:40.480 Love's supposed to do what it does.

00:48:42.000 I'm not supposed to do what I do, you know, and that's what we do.

00:48:52.200 You think you're hard to love or not?

00:48:54.380 Huh?

00:48:54.860 You think you're hard to love?

00:48:58.380 I think that I'm a quiet taste.

00:49:00.640 Yeah.

00:49:03.040 I'm humble enough to know that I could be replaced,

00:49:06.000 but I'm confident to know that nobody in the world is like me.

00:49:08.840 Mm.

00:49:12.240 That's true, man.

00:49:14.820 What's up, guys, or ladies, or fellas?

00:49:17.820 I don't even know.

00:49:18.560 Who knows what?

00:49:19.700 You can't even tell who's got a wiener on them these days, you know?

00:49:23.120 You'll take a chick's bra off, and she's got damn two wieners on her chest.

00:49:26.600 Who knows what's going on?

00:49:29.200 All I know is there's a lot of flat root out there, buddy.

00:49:32.820 A lot of just dang deflated wiener.

00:49:36.460 That's where Blue Chew comes in.

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00:49:49.940 time for less talking more rocking less hanging more banging less thinking more dinking who wrote

00:49:58.640 this dude i didn't write this is i wrote the beginning i wrote but this is just damn it's

00:50:02.900 got something about it's got somebody drew a twink on the screen i don't want any of that

00:50:06.580 I just want to have a semi-decent wiener.

00:50:10.760 I don't even have to get that good.

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00:53:19.360 details. Tekovas. Point your toes west. Did it ever become like being Mike Tyson and being Iron

00:53:29.580 Mike Tyson and being like this, when you become bigger than you, how did that affect you? Like

00:53:37.640 as a person do you feel like?

00:53:40.020 I know the truth that I'm never big,

00:53:42.660 I don't never,

00:53:43.440 that's just some form of imagination

00:53:48.760 really being some big star.

00:53:50.600 I know who I am.

00:53:51.780 I know what I've accomplished in life,

00:53:54.780 the good, the bad, you know,

00:53:56.860 but there's not many people, you know,

00:53:58.440 listen, I walk with poverty

00:54:00.320 and I sit with presence, you know.

00:54:02.580 I've just, it's not too many things

00:54:04.760 I haven't done in my life, you know.

00:54:06.460 So I just take my life day by day.

00:54:10.760 I don't make too many plans, you know.

00:54:14.340 I met your wife now, Kiki.

00:54:17.700 Yeah, very interesting person, huh?

00:54:20.620 I'm going to say she's a beautiful, nice lady.

00:54:22.520 You can say she's a very interesting person.

00:54:24.260 She is very interesting, I'm sure.

00:54:26.120 I don't know her well.

00:54:26.900 She has very kind eyes, and she seems like she really cares about you.

00:54:32.040 So those are things that I noticed.

00:54:33.380 And you guys have some beautiful children.

00:54:34.540 and I saw some, one of them I think is here, maybe two, Michael, Miguel, Miguel, Lo Siento,

00:54:45.420 and Milan, and Milan, yeah, Kiki seems to just have like, she wants to make sure that you're

00:54:52.900 okay, right, is there like, what's it like now with her, with this relationship, what's this

00:54:57.900 marriage like i don't know it's too perfect we need a little bullshit in that other thing

00:55:06.440 yeah we're cool we have a great connection you know um we bullshit every now and then

00:55:14.140 what's something you really love about her i just love her being a mother she's an awesome

00:55:18.560 mother awesome wife and the all-around beautiful person i really hit the jackpot with this monkey

00:55:24.060 She's a little precious.

00:55:26.980 Where did you meet Kiki at?

00:55:28.840 I knew her since she was like 19, 18.

00:55:31.320 Yeah.

00:55:32.020 Is she like a strong woman in the household?

00:55:33.920 Like, what's that kind of energy like?

00:55:36.040 Like, does she make you get up early or anything?

00:55:38.520 No, that's the whole thing.

00:55:39.680 I don't have to move.

00:55:40.960 What's that?

00:55:41.480 My wife, I don't have to move.

00:55:43.540 Yeah?

00:55:44.200 Yeah, I don't have to move.

00:55:45.340 She takes care of me, everything.

00:55:47.640 I got the real wife that, you know, cooks for me,

00:55:50.100 bring my food.

00:55:50.840 If I'm tired, she'll feed me.

00:55:53.200 You got a queen, huh?

00:55:55.900 That's nice.

00:55:58.580 She's also

00:55:59.320 my pet

00:56:01.900 and she's also my tiger, too.

00:56:03.860 She's my defender.

00:56:06.260 So she has that

00:56:07.760 in her, too.

00:56:09.400 Hmm.

00:56:12.180 No, you got to have somebody

00:56:13.660 that has that. Oh, you have to.

00:56:16.120 There's nobody that has more fury

00:56:17.860 than a woman. And that's just in general.

00:56:20.760 There's nobody that fights

00:56:21.860 more fierce food than a woman.

00:56:23.720 Oh, dude, they can make a child.

00:56:25.380 If you and I had laid on our back

00:56:26.520 for nine months,

00:56:27.200 we couldn't make shit.

00:56:28.120 No, no.

00:56:30.020 Listen, they could bleed nine months

00:56:33.360 and leave.

00:56:33.720 We get a little cut on our hands.

00:56:34.820 We get affection and die.

00:56:36.620 You know?

00:56:37.760 Women are a special breed.

00:56:39.660 Yeah, well, they're wizards.

00:56:40.660 They're damn wizards, I'll say that.

00:56:42.000 But they are also a great breed.

00:56:43.980 No, that's the biggest gift

00:56:46.000 God could ever give us is a woman.

00:56:48.220 Yeah.

00:56:48.920 The most precious gift God

00:56:50.440 could ever give us is a woman.

00:56:51.860 Yeah, that's the truth

00:56:54.340 I agree

00:56:56.300 I agree, man

00:56:58.640 Hey, this is our show

00:57:01.200 Yeah

00:57:02.300 You heard the man

00:57:04.060 I think, like, fathering and fame

00:57:07.620 would seem like it's really hard for me

00:57:09.140 It's middle, how about your life?

00:57:11.820 I don't have any children yet

00:57:12.960 Oh, God bless you, man

00:57:14.640 God bless you, because this doesn't work well

00:57:17.800 with children

00:57:18.560 Well, I don't want things that I've said or done to influence

00:57:21.460 my children's life

00:57:22.240 for people to look at them

00:57:23.240 a certain way

00:57:23.700 or have certain expectations

00:57:24.760 out of them.

00:57:25.520 But I don't fear that that much.

00:57:26.920 But your life has been

00:57:27.740 at an insane amount of that.

00:57:30.640 Like, what was that?

00:57:31.880 Did it make it hard for you?

00:57:33.140 Like, what was it like

00:57:33.820 fathering and having your life?

00:57:36.100 Like, and the fame?

00:57:37.260 I don't know.

00:57:38.100 My kids have a great life.

00:57:40.160 And if they ever started

00:57:41.360 complaining,

00:57:42.120 they should think about,

00:57:43.360 they should have had my father.

00:57:45.080 Then they would have

00:57:45.680 a right to complain.

00:57:46.800 They do not have

00:57:47.720 a right to complain.

00:57:48.680 My kids go to the best school

00:57:50.200 the world can offer.

00:57:51.460 They have the best opportunities to work, offer.

00:57:55.400 It's up to them to take advantage of it.

00:58:01.300 Where was your father from?

00:58:03.220 North Carolina.

00:58:04.420 Oh, dude, no way.

00:58:05.320 I'm going to freaking Wilmington this weekend.

00:58:07.080 Charlotte.

00:58:07.620 He's from Charlotte.

00:58:08.440 Oh, Charlotte?

00:58:09.460 Charlotte's okay.

00:58:10.880 I'm fine.

00:58:11.420 I've never been here.

00:58:12.560 You haven't?

00:58:13.060 I'm fine with it.

00:58:16.000 I will tell you this story.

00:58:17.140 So one time I was in Charlotte, right?

00:58:18.840 And I hadn't been there before.

00:58:20.060 My friend and I were sitting on a patio.

00:58:21.820 We were just getting something to eat.

00:58:23.080 And I saw somebody pushing a baby carriage out there, right?

00:58:26.460 And they were wearing like a couple of different like shawls or like rugs,

00:58:31.380 almost like a bunch of like tapestries and stuff over them and over the carriage.

00:58:36.040 And I thought it was like a homeless guy, almost like a French homeless guy, right?

00:58:40.560 Because he's French.

00:58:42.060 Well, just he was a very color.

00:58:43.460 It looked like, dude, it was French in North Carolina.

00:58:46.500 Well, just because of the elegance of the shawls and stuff, they seem very...

00:58:52.120 French-ish.

00:58:53.040 Very French-ish.

00:58:54.680 And, yeah, French-ish.

00:58:57.840 It was freaking Cam Newton pushing his newborn down the street.

00:59:01.620 Are you serious?

00:59:02.420 I swear, that is a true story.

00:59:05.420 And that's the truth.

00:59:06.760 It was him, dude.

00:59:08.060 I keep looking, I'm like, damn, they've got the most beautiful, elegant homeless around here.

00:59:12.740 They really vibing.

00:59:13.700 and then I'm like

00:59:16.320 I saw a few

00:59:16.800 would run up

00:59:17.180 and get photos

00:59:17.740 and it was him

00:59:18.320 and he just had

00:59:18.880 a newborn child

00:59:19.700 and he was taking it

00:59:21.000 for a little

00:59:21.360 afternoon stroll

00:59:23.040 out there

00:59:23.600 by the McCormick

00:59:25.020 and Schmicks

00:59:25.580 out there

00:59:26.180 you have anybody

00:59:26.860 you're in love with?

00:59:28.280 do you have anybody

00:59:28.720 I'm in love with?

00:59:29.520 yeah

00:59:29.680 uh

00:59:30.300 I mean

00:59:32.520 I'm crazy

00:59:33.680 it's crazy

00:59:34.360 nobody off the top

00:59:38.560 of my head

00:59:39.100 you're not with

00:59:40.160 a woman right now

00:59:41.220 no I'm not with

00:59:41.940 a woman right now

00:59:42.660 no you're not

00:59:43.080 kicking it with no one right now?

00:59:44.540 I mean, you know what I'm saying.

00:59:47.980 I'm saying that, yeah.

00:59:49.260 How old are you?

00:59:50.100 I'm 46, dude.

00:59:51.060 I'm an adult.

00:59:52.320 You got the fucking hair.

00:59:54.540 You got that fucking hair.

00:59:55.820 As long as you got that hair,

00:59:56.880 you got the advantage of that pussy.

00:59:59.720 What's the heck, oh, God?

01:00:01.360 That hair is serious pussy advantage right there.

01:00:05.100 The hair.

01:00:06.620 If you'd had hair,

01:00:08.300 you think you'd have been even more handsome?

01:00:11.200 If I had hair

01:00:13.020 I wouldn't be married

01:00:13.880 I'd be in lawsuits

01:00:14.940 And all that shit

01:00:16.180 You'd be in lawsuits

01:00:19.580 That's crazy bro

01:00:22.460 Hair is power

01:00:24.120 That's why

01:00:24.700 When they did that

01:00:25.680 About Samson

01:00:26.340 Because really

01:00:27.140 Hair is power

01:00:28.020 Well that's what

01:00:28.720 Even when they used

01:00:29.180 To scout people

01:00:29.820 And stuff

01:00:30.080 And take their hair

01:00:30.820 They was taking

01:00:31.420 You know

01:00:31.820 They were taking

01:00:32.420 Power

01:00:32.660 That's why

01:00:33.860 I grew my hair

01:00:34.340 A lot

01:00:34.460 People think

01:00:34.860 The hair represents power

01:00:35.880 That's why they always

01:00:36.600 Trying to

01:00:36.900 Cut your hair

01:00:37.500 You know

01:00:37.880 Like a animal

01:00:38.820 Cut your hair

01:00:39.420 Cut your hair

01:00:39.900 Keep your fucking hair

01:00:41.100 Yeah, bitch, I want to be an animal.

01:00:42.140 Yeah, keep your fucking hair.

01:00:43.760 Because once you lose your hair, you go,

01:00:45.720 oh, God, I wish you had it back.

01:00:47.120 Some guys say, oh, I was in the way.

01:00:48.580 No, I wasn't in the way, motherfucker.

01:00:50.060 You wish you had your hair back.

01:00:51.560 The only thing that was in the way of

01:00:52.740 was in the way of you being a little bitch.

01:00:54.320 That's the only thing you want, huh?

01:00:55.920 Well, let that hair grow.

01:00:57.320 Don't care how much you grow.

01:00:58.300 Let it grow.

01:00:58.860 Let the people say, oh, you're an animal.

01:01:01.400 You can't get a job.

01:01:02.360 You can get a job with a lot of hair now.

01:01:04.020 Yeah, you can get a job at Cricket Tarky.

01:01:05.120 You can get a job as a mechanics assistant.

01:01:06.460 Anything, anything.

01:01:07.320 that makes more money

01:01:09.160 than the average person

01:01:10.140 by far

01:01:10.820 yeah

01:01:12.440 bro you could just

01:01:13.660 brush your hair online

01:01:14.980 and dudes will pay

01:01:15.780 to watch you do it

01:01:16.900 yo listen

01:01:18.480 that online thing

01:01:20.320 it's either

01:01:21.580 the best thing

01:01:22.820 a pedophile

01:01:23.440 could ever dream of

01:01:24.620 or else it's the biggest

01:01:26.200 biggest hit in the world

01:01:27.880 one of the other

01:01:28.580 it's the worst bro

01:01:30.380 do you think

01:01:31.400 have you seen

01:01:31.980 times change bro

01:01:32.900 same

01:01:33.420 but like

01:01:34.720 how bad

01:01:35.420 like things are

01:01:35.960 not bad

01:01:36.460 but things just

01:01:36.900 gotten so much different it's gotten away from them everything became sexual lately and everybody's

01:01:44.700 worried about who's sleeping with who everybody's worried about who genders who and who looks like

01:01:50.120 this and it's all about that now yes uh there used to be so much more i think i don't know

01:01:56.500 when you couldn't record everything the moment was so great but because then also if i needed

01:02:00.660 to know a story the only way i could get it was from you or from somebody that told it well yes

01:02:05.600 And so that person had like, I don't know, they had an ambiance about him.

01:02:09.220 There might be a dude in town, all he did was tell one good story or no good.

01:02:12.940 That's happened since the beginning of life.

01:02:14.980 Yeah.

01:02:15.400 And now it's suddenly different.

01:02:16.800 Yeah.

01:02:17.180 And now we have people out here losing their minds and shit.

01:02:20.420 Killing themselves, hurting themselves.

01:02:21.880 Killing themselves, Mike.

01:02:23.820 Dude, nobody killed themselves.

01:02:24.960 When I was a kid, nobody was killing themselves.

01:02:26.980 If you were angry or depressed, you'd just listen to heavy metal and walk around town.

01:02:30.900 Remember that?

01:02:32.120 Yes.

01:02:33.120 Oh, man.

01:02:33.840 You know, it's just interesting that people are doing that now.

01:02:37.460 We're sick, though.

01:02:38.940 There's something poisoning us.

01:02:41.160 Do you agree with that?

01:02:42.080 A hundred percent.

01:02:43.740 I know the government know what it is.

01:02:46.440 Yeah, they ain't telling.

01:02:48.440 You know, because death is profitable.

01:02:51.040 You know, people cashing out your insurance and all that shit.

01:02:54.500 Death is very profitable.

01:02:55.780 Even at the morgue.

01:02:56.580 Dude, my buddy freaking died.

01:02:58.700 They put new shoes on him, charged his family 300 bucks.

01:03:01.940 I'm like, bitch, he's wearing them for 50 minutes.

01:03:05.420 Just get a rental.

01:03:07.200 And they got a whole fresh pair.

01:03:10.400 That's crazy, man.

01:03:11.780 But I agree, there's something the government knows, man.

01:03:13.900 So now people are going to have to rise up.

01:03:15.620 Something's going to have to happen.

01:03:16.540 Do you believe that people have that in us still?

01:03:18.480 I believe this.

01:03:20.520 I believe that some people, even the elite people,

01:03:23.460 they have money and have the resources to live longer, healthier.

01:03:29.480 You know?

01:03:29.860 Imagine being 90

01:03:32.160 And living healthy

01:03:32.980 You can still run

01:03:33.860 You can still fuck

01:03:34.940 You can still do things

01:03:36.240 For your family

01:03:37.000 Jump

01:03:37.660 Fall over

01:03:38.300 Exactly

01:03:38.960 No serious

01:03:39.780 Yeah I feel you

01:03:40.820 You think that's possible

01:03:42.220 For some people right now

01:03:43.020 And they're hiding

01:03:43.400 Right now

01:03:43.700 Absolutely right

01:03:44.960 Absolutely

01:03:45.860 Because the bullshit

01:03:47.760 That I use now

01:03:48.760 All this

01:03:49.240 Meditides

01:03:50.680 And all this shit

01:03:51.520 And they're going to

01:03:52.140 Dick can't

01:03:52.900 It's just crazy

01:03:54.020 Yeah

01:03:54.480 I feel young

01:03:55.220 That's all

01:03:55.760 That's why I be going

01:03:56.480 Fighting again

01:03:57.060 I feel good

01:03:58.340 next thing they're gonna

01:04:00.660 give you something

01:04:01.300 they kind of got now

01:04:02.220 that thing you sniff

01:04:03.440 it makes you smarter

01:04:04.580 what is it

01:04:05.880 I don't know what

01:04:06.840 no listen

01:04:08.060 you're laughing now

01:04:09.600 but when

01:04:09.940 don't laugh

01:04:10.440 when it comes out

01:04:11.340 you can say

01:04:11.660 Mike was talking about that

01:04:13.120 you'll be hitting that shit

01:04:14.180 in the neck

01:04:14.520 I don't know

01:04:15.600 if you get too smart

01:04:16.860 you might have a fucking

01:04:17.680 brain collapse

01:04:18.580 right

01:04:18.900 an aneurysm

01:04:21.480 or some shit

01:04:22.100 I don't wanna

01:04:22.440 there's a lot of shit

01:04:23.440 I don't wanna know

01:04:24.340 dude the smarter I get

01:04:26.600 I feel like the more

01:04:27.300 I hurt it bro

01:04:28.760 No, but listen, they got stuff.

01:04:30.860 Check this out.

01:04:32.260 Imagine somebody say, I have something in this needle

01:04:34.720 that'll make you last 30 more years, strong.

01:04:39.780 It'll make your dick stay hard for 24 hours

01:04:42.100 or something like that.

01:04:43.780 That's what people are working at.

01:04:45.580 Whatever our biggest kinks are,

01:04:50.120 it'll be sex, it'll be alcohol.

01:04:51.540 They give you a shot.

01:04:52.380 There's no more alcohol in your life.

01:04:54.040 No more drugs in your life.

01:04:55.600 it's all about the

01:04:56.740 it's going to be all about

01:04:57.680 the needles soon

01:04:58.480 and pills

01:04:59.180 the needles and pills

01:05:01.660 did you

01:05:02.420 were you ever a needle user

01:05:03.580 or not

01:05:04.060 well

01:05:05.180 I used a lot of needles

01:05:06.680 yes I have

01:05:07.520 yeah I used a lot of needles

01:05:09.080 because that's a different barrier

01:05:10.120 when you go into drug use

01:05:11.120 like I've used a lot of stuff

01:05:12.280 I've never used no needles

01:05:13.220 I've used like steroids

01:05:14.400 but I've never used

01:05:15.460 like

01:05:16.720 you know

01:05:17.780 shooting up

01:05:18.400 like

01:05:19.000 whatever it's called

01:05:20.400 heroin

01:05:21.940 heroin yeah

01:05:24.400 yeah

01:05:24.840 I never used it

01:05:25.580 Now, I wish I would have smoked crack.

01:05:27.280 I will say that.

01:05:28.780 Stay away from crack.

01:05:30.180 Really?

01:05:30.780 You don't normally come back.

01:05:32.940 Really?

01:05:33.460 Why don't you go crack?

01:05:34.460 You don't come back.

01:05:36.580 What was it?

01:05:37.200 Did you ever get to smoke it?

01:05:38.960 I did once.

01:05:40.240 Oh, no.

01:05:41.000 This is going to be fucking crazy.

01:05:42.860 I got to tell you this.

01:05:44.020 Please do.

01:05:44.980 So one day, I do my monthly checkup, but I'm still getting high.

01:05:49.780 I'm going to get my checkup with my probation officer.

01:05:52.520 and he gets my probation officer.

01:05:55.900 He gets my blood test.

01:05:57.560 I'm not even thinking.

01:05:58.720 And he comes back.

01:05:59.580 I come back.

01:06:00.060 He said,

01:06:02.260 we just test you for crack,

01:06:05.960 but I could tell her,

01:06:07.280 what they call him?

01:06:09.400 What do you call a crackhead?

01:06:11.140 Oh,

01:06:11.500 a crack,

01:06:14.720 a what?

01:06:16.540 Tweaker?

01:06:17.120 He tweaker.

01:06:17.860 He said, yeah,

01:06:18.460 but I had it in me.

01:06:21.440 But he said,

01:06:21.760 yeah, I know a tweaker.

01:06:22.560 You're not a tweaker.

01:06:23.240 That's a forced test.

01:06:24.960 I said, fuck.

01:06:26.600 He knew about sight?

01:06:27.500 Yeah, he did.

01:06:27.940 I could tell a tweaker.

01:06:28.920 He said, you're not a tweaker.

01:06:29.960 Because it was by accident.

01:06:31.020 I didn't know it was a crash.

01:06:32.480 Oh, it was just in there.

01:06:33.600 Yeah, I took it without the guy telling me.

01:06:36.240 I didn't know.

01:06:37.020 And the cop said that to me.

01:06:38.180 He said, yeah, you got a forced test,

01:06:39.720 but I could tell a tweaker.

01:06:40.580 You're not a tweaker.

01:06:41.280 Amen.

01:06:41.960 I'm glad.

01:06:42.440 Thank you for telling me that word tweaker.

01:06:44.600 Thank you for the tweaker guy.

01:06:45.820 That's good stuff.

01:06:46.780 And I said, fuck.

01:06:47.860 That guy gave me that shit.

01:06:49.840 That's the thing.

01:06:50.360 you don't know what you were getting.

01:06:51.520 Exactly.

01:06:52.000 Imagine if I was fentanyl,

01:06:53.020 I'd be dead as a motherfucker.

01:06:55.380 You got out before fentanyl,

01:06:56.720 thank God, huh?

01:06:57.340 My wife would tell you, right?

01:06:59.060 It came on the news

01:06:59.800 that Mike died

01:07:00.680 from a drug overdose

01:07:02.740 at his party.

01:07:04.080 And my wife thought

01:07:04.720 it was on the news.

01:07:06.100 And the only thing,

01:07:06.720 I come in the house

01:07:07.380 a couple hours later,

01:07:08.200 my wife screamed at me,

01:07:09.900 cursed at me,

01:07:10.720 oh, fuck, I'm high.

01:07:12.020 I just left the house

01:07:13.080 and kept running.

01:07:14.180 It was a false story?

01:07:15.460 Yeah, it was on the news, too.

01:07:17.140 My wife saw me and hit me.

01:07:18.680 I got to get out of the house.

01:07:19.600 I left.

01:07:20.900 Oh, she was pissed

01:07:23.460 even if he was alive?

01:07:24.600 She was pissed

01:07:25.520 I was alive,

01:07:26.180 her and her mother.

01:07:26.880 Damn, bro.

01:07:27.720 Pissed I was alive.

01:07:29.120 And her mother

01:07:30.400 was pissed too?

01:07:31.760 Yeah,

01:07:32.120 they're crying

01:07:33.520 every day.

01:07:34.160 They think I'm dead.

01:07:35.380 They checking morgan

01:07:36.500 and shit

01:07:37.120 and hospitals

01:07:38.720 and I walked

01:07:40.180 through the door

01:07:40.720 high.

01:07:41.680 I'm coked up

01:07:42.980 high and drunk.

01:07:45.580 I just left the house

01:07:46.760 and fucked this shit.

01:07:47.760 These motherfuckers, they can't, they don't, yeah, they don't love me.

01:07:53.260 Dude, yeah, you ever have those days where you stayed up multiple days from doing cocaine or not?

01:07:58.820 Yeah, absolutely.

01:08:01.740 So listen, I'm, oh, I'm going to tell you this bullshit story.

01:08:05.460 So I can't get any sleep, so I'm calling the person, my nose hurt like a motherfucker, right?

01:08:11.160 It's, ah, my nose, I'm going, ah.

01:08:13.960 And so I'm calling the person, and I'm saying my nose is hurt.

01:08:17.520 I'm fucking, I can't sleep.

01:08:18.940 I've been up for four days.

01:08:19.860 My nose is hurting.

01:08:20.980 I got scars on my nose.

01:08:22.740 She said, your nose hurt?

01:08:23.820 She said, you got the coke?

01:08:24.640 I said, yeah.

01:08:25.120 She said, hit, hit.

01:08:26.380 I took a hit.

01:08:27.880 I said, wow, that feels better.

01:08:30.500 I never knew I had the coke all the time.

01:08:32.520 I just took a hit.

01:08:34.060 I numbed it up because it got,

01:08:35.540 it wasn't numb anymore.

01:08:36.700 It started bleeding.

01:08:37.520 It got sore.

01:08:38.140 I had to take another hit to numb it up.

01:08:40.720 Oh.

01:08:42.240 Those nights are the worst, huh?

01:08:43.840 Oh, man.

01:08:46.040 The worst, bro.

01:08:47.520 Did you ever have to sneak into a hospital

01:08:49.560 or did you have a private doctor?

01:08:51.400 Yeah, this is true.

01:08:53.720 Listen, I go to my doctor, right?

01:08:57.620 Your doctor, hold on.

01:08:59.260 Let's get a round of applause for Mike's doctor, bro.

01:09:05.400 I go to my doctor and I go back and I said,

01:09:08.720 I'm going to lay the spill on my doctor

01:09:10.760 and I'm going to quit cocaine right now.

01:09:13.380 And he's checking me, right?

01:09:14.980 giving me, you know, checking out.

01:09:18.900 And he said, how you doing?

01:09:19.960 I said, your doctor, you know, I'm feeling bad.

01:09:21.380 I need to quit.

01:09:22.680 And he said, what?

01:09:23.640 I said, I need to quit coke.

01:09:24.700 He said, really?

01:09:26.040 You taking a lot of laser?

01:09:27.340 I said, yeah.

01:09:27.720 He said, you have some on you?

01:09:28.920 I said, yeah.

01:09:29.560 Can I have some?

01:09:30.460 I said, fuck!

01:09:31.820 The doctor, my brother, this is on my children's lights.

01:09:34.560 And I'm like, fuck!

01:09:36.620 I'm trying to get help.

01:09:38.220 I'm talking to the doctor about I got a problem.

01:09:40.800 He said, you have some on you now?

01:09:41.960 He said, can I have some?

01:09:42.740 And I took it.

01:09:43.340 Was that Blue Cross Blue Shield?

01:09:45.820 Who was that?

01:09:47.600 No, I go to rehab now.

01:09:49.820 They put me in rehab.

01:09:51.320 And this is what I do.

01:09:52.840 The guy, the rehab staffer, comes up here

01:09:55.460 and he tells me all the rules.

01:09:57.220 And then I try to be a good guy.

01:09:58.840 Give him my Coke.

01:09:59.600 The last bit of Coke.

01:10:00.640 You know, I was doing Coke before I came.

01:10:02.340 You know, normally before you go rehab,

01:10:03.600 you get really hot.

01:10:04.500 Yeah.

01:10:05.080 So I gave him the Coke.

01:10:06.560 I really wanted to get sober.

01:10:07.660 I gave him the Coke, my last Coke.

01:10:09.120 I said, here, I got some Coke.

01:10:10.180 He said, oh, you have some.

01:10:11.380 Then he went.

01:10:12.440 And the next time I saw him,

01:10:13.940 he started acting funny.

01:10:15.860 I said,

01:10:16.240 I didn't think it better

01:10:17.260 I took my coke

01:10:18.260 because I was some good coke.

01:10:19.960 I wanted to be a good person

01:10:21.600 and give it up.

01:10:22.440 The motherfucker took my coke.

01:10:24.560 So I said,

01:10:25.080 hey, man,

01:10:25.400 you took my fucking coke.

01:10:26.780 You're going to start

01:10:27.240 letting me have girls come over.

01:10:28.560 He said,

01:10:28.740 let me have girls come over.

01:10:29.920 After rehab?

01:10:31.060 Yeah.

01:10:31.740 What?

01:10:33.060 My right hand on my children's life, man.

01:10:35.100 Oh.

01:10:35.680 You listen,

01:10:36.460 I can't make shit like this up.

01:10:38.160 The rehab guy said,

01:10:39.340 oh, you got coke?

01:10:40.500 And I said,

01:10:41.060 and I give it up.

01:10:41.700 I said, no, I don't want to get hired with her.

01:10:43.180 I'm going to try to live clean.

01:10:44.340 This nigga go away for a free...

01:10:45.600 He comes back acting weird.

01:10:47.420 I said, I know this motherfucker didn't take my Coke.

01:10:51.060 I got mad because I should have kept that shit then.

01:10:53.780 Type shit.

01:10:54.360 Oh, man, I got so fucking mad.

01:10:56.800 Dude, I'll tell you this freaking story.

01:10:58.140 So one time my friend, we're getting out of an Uber.

01:11:01.860 He dropped some Coke, right?

01:11:03.540 And I didn't know he did Coke.

01:11:05.240 And I didn't know I did Coke, right?

01:11:08.960 I've been there.

01:11:09.600 Yeah.

01:11:09.820 so i pick his coke up i'd never seen it before i just saw this little bag in it i've registered

01:11:15.860 pretty quick this is probably cocaine right and so we go inside we're staying at my buddy kevin's

01:11:21.700 house um we go inside and he starts saying hey will you help me look for something but he won't

01:11:26.980 he won't tell me what it is because he doesn't want me knowing that he doesn't want to give me

01:11:32.240 that's what it is yeah yeah that's what it is bro so i keep sneaking off and doing the coke

01:11:37.400 because we're looking really hard, right?

01:11:40.440 Bro, after like two hours, he goes to sleep.

01:11:43.340 I'm still looking for the shit and doing it, bro.

01:11:48.240 And I forgot what I was even looking for,

01:11:50.640 but I kept looking, bro,

01:11:51.920 because that's who I am.

01:11:53.020 I'm committed.

01:11:55.380 I'm that motherfucker that will ride with you, Mike.

01:11:57.680 I got to tell you this story about cocaine, okay?

01:12:00.480 Okay.

01:12:01.460 I'm in, first I'm in Jamaica, right?

01:12:05.860 And I leave Jamaica.

01:12:06.980 I'm hanging out with Jamaica

01:12:08.080 I'm hanging out there

01:12:08.900 And I go to Cuba for

01:12:10.580 You know, it's very close

01:12:11.560 An hour, half an hour

01:12:12.800 Did you get to meet Fidel in Cuba or not?

01:12:14.420 No, interesting though

01:12:15.440 Check this out

01:12:16.160 So I'm in Cuba, right?

01:12:18.840 I'm hanging out

01:12:19.680 And so guy meets me

01:12:21.220 Hey, you're Mike Tyson, right?

01:12:23.620 Yeah

01:12:23.940 Hey, Mike Tyson, what's wrong?

01:12:25.780 Is everything okay?

01:12:26.440 I said, yeah, this is great

01:12:27.080 You have money?

01:12:27.560 I have a lot of money, yeah

01:12:28.580 You need a girl

01:12:29.820 I said, this is a possibility

01:12:31.200 Yes, I do

01:12:32.040 You're a fucking genius, right?

01:12:36.980 So he takes me, you know, listen,

01:12:38.720 but you guys, he takes me around this,

01:12:40.460 it's nothing but bricks and rocks and bandits.

01:12:43.320 It looks like a bomb at the business, disgusting.

01:12:45.940 And I'm like, I think this guy set me up

01:12:47.720 to get mugged or something here, right?

01:12:49.940 And all of a sudden, this beautiful girl,

01:12:52.160 she had raggedy clothes on,

01:12:53.320 she comes out of this fucking,

01:12:54.640 the clap, the lapidated building

01:12:57.060 that looks like a hip-hop bomb.

01:12:58.200 Nobody lives in there.

01:12:59.300 This is all the band and shit.

01:13:00.540 And she comes out.

01:13:01.580 I said, what the fuck?

01:13:03.260 Wow.

01:13:03.960 Yeah, but this is why I'm talking about Castro.

01:13:06.740 You know, the natives there were unable to live.

01:13:09.180 They can't go in the hotels there.

01:13:11.140 The people that live in the residence.

01:13:12.900 Because they don't want to be talking to people that are visiting?

01:13:15.240 I don't know, but they're not allowed to go in the hotel.

01:13:17.840 Mr. Castro allowed me to take people to my hotel.

01:13:20.380 They let me do whatever I wanted to do over there.

01:13:22.960 Yeah, he was really nice.

01:13:24.600 I think I had a fight there.

01:13:27.820 I threw bottles.

01:13:28.500 I didn't get arrested or nothing.

01:13:29.900 I was telling people, leave me alone.

01:13:31.900 Let me do what I want.

01:13:33.120 Damn.

01:13:33.480 Anybody else who had been throwing bottles and stuff on Cuba, they would have got fucked up.

01:13:37.940 They would have been in the hospital, then they would have been in the infirmary.

01:13:43.180 Then they would have been in jail.

01:13:45.080 What made you want to go to Russia?

01:13:46.720 Because that was kind of like a, like why, you know what I'm saying?

01:13:51.260 Like, I don't even know.

01:13:52.220 First of all, did they even at the time have black people in Russia?

01:13:57.520 Yes.

01:13:58.480 Did they really?

01:13:59.320 Because they never put them on like the websites or anything.

01:14:01.280 Black people came to Russia.

01:14:02.040 Like, no, they came to Russia around 1909.

01:14:05.320 Black people did?

01:14:06.200 Yeah.

01:14:07.940 You know, and I met black Ukrainians.

01:14:11.440 I met black Russians.

01:14:12.600 It was really amazing shit.

01:14:14.240 Wow.

01:14:14.740 Yeah.

01:14:15.180 Because you probably wouldn't even think that would have happened, right?

01:14:17.260 No, until they start talking.

01:14:18.760 Yeah.

01:14:19.760 Wow.

01:14:21.200 Dude, that's cool.

01:14:22.480 That's one cool thing about traveling sometimes, bro.

01:14:25.080 This is a true thing.

01:14:25.960 You might see somebody that looks like you and their mother might be black and their father might be white or something.

01:14:31.380 or African or something.

01:14:32.780 Well, you just realized that, like,

01:14:34.520 oh, there's so many people out there.

01:14:37.020 Like, when I was in my little town,

01:14:38.320 I thought heaven was only going to be people in our town, right?

01:14:40.940 Listen, let me tell you something about Russian people

01:14:44.280 and Ukrainian people, right?

01:14:48.240 Listen, no, yeah, I'm up there, right?

01:14:51.680 And so we got some call girls, supposedly call girls, right?

01:14:55.280 Some call girls?

01:14:56.140 Yeah, supposedly call girls.

01:14:57.920 They're escorts, they call girls.

01:15:00.060 Yeah.

01:15:01.000 And listen, I'm saying to myself,

01:15:02.740 I want to talk to my friend in Yugoslavia.

01:15:06.040 She talks Yugoslavia.

01:15:07.600 She calls him that.

01:15:08.720 I want to talk to a friend that's staying in China.

01:15:12.200 She talks to the...

01:15:13.080 The common call girl must speak around seven languages.

01:15:19.560 A call girl in America can't even speak English.

01:15:24.020 Can't speak her home language.

01:15:26.180 Call girl speaks seven languages.

01:15:27.820 I'm trying to think, how can I get this girl from here

01:15:30.000 to America.

01:15:31.420 She's going to be

01:15:32.200 a Fortune 500 company.

01:15:33.980 I'm telling you.

01:15:35.400 She speaks eight languages

01:15:36.920 and stuff.

01:15:37.600 Been to the best schools

01:15:38.680 and she's a call girl?

01:15:40.260 Dang.

01:15:41.200 I'm like, whoa.

01:15:42.740 And women here,

01:15:43.720 they barely will even learn

01:15:44.920 even one language

01:15:45.780 or even one and a half languages.

01:15:47.240 They're not even going to learn

01:15:48.340 how to cook.

01:15:49.120 Yeah.

01:15:49.720 What do you mean?

01:15:50.780 Language.

01:15:51.380 They don't know how to cook.

01:15:52.600 Dude, some women can barely

01:15:53.720 use even emojis.

01:15:56.100 I don't know how to use it either.

01:15:57.780 Yeah, but still,

01:15:58.700 you shouldn't have to, dude.

01:16:00.000 You're Mike Tyson, man

01:16:01.960 No, I'm just saying

01:16:02.680 Women here have it made

01:16:03.960 Women here have it made

01:16:05.200 They have it made

01:16:05.800 The other country

01:16:06.580 You can't have a

01:16:07.980 You can't have a say of nothing

01:16:09.900 Yeah

01:16:10.540 I guess, yeah

01:16:11.380 I guess I don't realize

01:16:12.100 How bad like

01:16:12.860 Women have it pretty bad

01:16:14.060 In Japan

01:16:14.300 You see mostly women

01:16:16.500 If they're in prison in Japan

01:16:17.520 Because they killed their husband

01:16:18.880 Nuh-uh

01:16:19.700 Majority of them

01:16:20.600 Yeah, they just can't stand

01:16:21.740 Abusing him or something

01:16:22.940 Oh

01:16:23.320 Damn

01:16:24.700 Japan, can you imagine?

01:16:26.900 Mm-mm

01:16:27.220 Because they're so peaceful

01:16:28.760 A lot of times

01:16:29.540 We had a Japanese substitute teacher, and he didn't even say anything to us because he didn't want to bother us.

01:16:38.460 That's how nice he was.

01:16:40.040 We didn't learn anything.

01:16:40.960 That's how scared he was.

01:16:41.820 Yeah, that's how scared he was.

01:16:43.120 We didn't learn anything for four days because he didn't even want to bother us.

01:16:49.400 You fought in Japan against, was it, who was it?

01:16:51.640 I had two fights in Japan for this fight, Buster Douglas and someone else, Tony Tubbs.

01:16:56.820 Buster Douglas, that's when you won the championship?

01:16:59.160 I lost the championship.

01:17:00.360 Oh, damn.

01:17:01.140 Sorry.

01:17:01.760 No, be sorry.

01:17:02.620 I'm happy.

01:17:03.180 I got $40 million.

01:17:04.620 You got $40 million?

01:17:05.760 I got $35, yeah.

01:17:07.940 Wow.

01:17:08.560 Same shit, though.

01:17:09.840 Yeah, same, bro.

01:17:10.980 I rounded even.

01:17:12.400 Yeah.

01:17:14.280 Dude, that's so wild, bro.

01:17:17.200 But before that fight, were you training as hard, or were you just living the life?

01:17:22.940 I was living the life, but he fought a great fight.

01:17:26.180 Yeah.

01:17:26.440 I think that was.

01:17:26.940 He fought a great fight.

01:17:28.560 Dude, I remember we were like,

01:17:29.880 I was living in Charleston, South Carolina at the time

01:17:31.620 and somebody had bought the fight with like a projector

01:17:34.420 and they projected it on the side of like a building

01:17:36.940 and everybody came downtown and watched it, dude.

01:17:39.200 It was awesome, bro.

01:17:40.660 It was a good time, man.

01:17:42.400 It was like, when you fought, it was like,

01:17:44.960 it brought everybody,

01:17:46.080 it was like watching the Challenger blow up.

01:17:47.700 Everybody showed up, you know?

01:17:49.720 The Challenger did blow up.

01:17:51.800 Remember that?

01:17:52.440 Everybody watched the whole television that whole day,

01:17:54.900 watched it over and over again.

01:17:56.180 That's like those guys

01:17:58.020 That went in the water

01:17:58.800 With those submarines

01:17:59.580 And it combusts

01:18:00.660 From inside

01:18:01.200 Boots

01:18:01.620 Yeah

01:18:01.960 He took his son down

01:18:03.440 This guy took his son down there

01:18:05.160 But they went down there

01:18:06.120 In a fucking McNugget

01:18:07.240 You know that shit's

01:18:07.940 Gonna happen dude

01:18:08.560 Bro it said Cutlass

01:18:10.020 On the side of it

01:18:10.560 It was a Delta 88

01:18:11.540 I'm like you got in that bitch

01:18:13.160 They just

01:18:14.420 I don't wanna

01:18:15.220 I shouldn't say that

01:18:16.160 They're good people

01:18:16.560 They got

01:18:17.200 They got smashed

01:18:18.840 They didn't even feel it

01:18:22.120 They didn't feel it

01:18:23.660 That's tight boy

01:18:24.740 because I hate even getting in a small shirt you ever put a small shirt on and you can't

01:18:29.060 even get out of it oh I like being in a small shirt yeah dude I went to Hulk's funeral man

01:18:39.260 did you really yeah tell me about that it was pretty special man like well it was a lot of

01:18:43.980 things it was like where was it at right outside of Tampa right outside of Tampa and um well one

01:18:50.300 thing that was interesting Jim McMahon was there but nobody knew he was there and then at one point

01:18:54.300 he came out like...

01:18:57.380 Vince McMahon.

01:18:58.660 Yeah.

01:18:59.480 You ever met Jim McMahon?

01:19:00.660 That's his father.

01:19:01.960 No, Jim McMahon was a quarterback

01:19:03.520 for the Chicago Bears.

01:19:04.320 Remember him?

01:19:04.720 Oh, he's badass.

01:19:05.660 Yeah, he was.

01:19:06.140 Funny glasses.

01:19:07.240 Yeah, he had that mullet, dude.

01:19:08.640 He showed me his fricking butthole

01:19:10.440 one time in Palm Springs

01:19:13.400 at a casino for no reason.

01:19:15.820 No, it was a reason.

01:19:17.300 It was a reason.

01:19:20.560 He figured you out.

01:19:22.660 He figured you out.

01:19:24.120 He looks like a quarterback.

01:19:26.020 He's a great quarterback, great perception.

01:19:28.080 The quarterback perception.

01:19:30.940 Look at this receiver.

01:19:35.280 That's crazy, dude.

01:19:36.920 But anyway, you're right.

01:19:37.820 Keep that hole open.

01:19:41.760 Tell me about him showing you his butt hole.

01:19:43.680 Tell me about that.

01:19:44.500 How did that appear?

01:19:46.160 What caused it?

01:19:47.740 Well, nobody was expecting it.

01:19:48.920 It was just like a regular night.

01:19:51.080 Have you ever hung out with him before?

01:19:52.920 I'd never met him before.

01:19:55.040 And he was drinking beers.

01:19:56.900 And he kept, he was saving all the cans.

01:19:58.980 I think he was like, he's like a, what's it called when you care about the nature?

01:20:03.540 When you're like a.

01:20:04.880 Asshole.

01:20:07.160 Asshole.

01:20:07.960 Asshole.

01:20:11.920 He was, don't be saying that the legal have a lawsuit.

01:20:14.940 You saw his asshole.

01:20:16.520 I saw it.

01:20:17.720 It was dark.

01:20:18.540 I mean, but.

01:20:18.820 Jim McMahon, you're welcome to come on and have a lawsuit.

01:20:21.600 this man saw your asshole.

01:20:23.480 What?

01:20:24.820 Dude, why are you?

01:20:26.480 You said you saw the asshole.

01:20:28.340 He may think differently.

01:20:30.080 Well, look.

01:20:31.340 He may say if that was a cheek,

01:20:32.760 that wasn't an asshole.

01:20:35.780 Mike is working in,

01:20:37.120 now you working for an attorney's office.

01:20:40.180 I know who it is.

01:20:42.700 Was it a cheek or an asshole?

01:20:44.640 I don't know, man.

01:20:46.500 Damn, you tricked me.

01:20:47.760 I just said I don't know.

01:20:49.380 What?

01:20:50.100 I knew it was a little while ago.

01:20:51.480 You're right.

01:20:51.780 I'm not sure.

01:20:52.480 It was shadowy out,

01:20:53.500 but I do remember

01:20:53.980 we were by the pool

01:20:54.740 and it was nighttime.

01:20:56.420 But anyway.

01:20:57.060 Yeah, so I'm opening up

01:20:58.060 some cheeks, right?

01:20:58.920 Spread his cheeks.

01:20:59.880 Right, but everything

01:21:00.640 in my just like mind,

01:21:02.780 I guess,

01:21:03.280 thought there was an asshole.

01:21:04.320 What did he say?

01:21:04.760 Come get it, guys?

01:21:06.020 No.

01:21:07.320 Come on, guys.

01:21:10.620 No, he wasn't saying

01:21:12.020 anything like that.

01:21:13.020 He was telling a joke

01:21:14.320 about his ex-girlfriend

01:21:16.120 or something

01:21:16.640 and then he said,

01:21:18.680 and then he said

01:21:19.820 the punchline.

01:21:20.400 I don't remember it.

01:21:20.880 I mean, he just kind of showed his butthole at the end.

01:21:24.500 The running back, he said, come run up in the net.

01:21:26.620 Who's the running back for his show?

01:21:28.420 Who was the running back at the time?

01:21:30.500 It wasn't Peyton, was it?

01:21:31.600 No.

01:21:32.220 Sayers?

01:21:32.620 No, Sayers was early.

01:21:33.620 Sayers was too old.

01:21:36.240 Was it?

01:21:37.200 No, was it really?

01:21:38.880 And 85 Bears was Peyton?

01:21:41.260 Run up in here, Big Tay.

01:21:42.860 Walter, come on.

01:21:43.900 Come on, Walter.

01:21:45.460 Get over here, Walter.

01:21:46.440 You're a badass, old man.

01:21:47.780 I didn't mean to see it.

01:21:50.880 But, yeah, anyway, let's move on.

01:21:52.340 But here's what I'm going to say is, so Vince McMahon comes out there.

01:21:56.200 Nobody knew he was at the funeral.

01:21:57.820 And it was wild because they had guys like.

01:21:59.720 They had beef, too, of Vince.

01:22:01.040 Yeah, well, I think over the years they'd had a lot of issues, right?

01:22:03.960 But a lot of my favorite wrestlers were there, and they were kind of broken down,

01:22:07.440 you know, somewhere in wheelchairs, and some were, like,

01:22:10.520 some people had urns of other, like, of guys who had passed on.

01:22:15.820 They had their ashes, just they brought them.

01:22:17.360 but Vince McMahon got up

01:22:19.820 and he did like

01:22:20.440 he played Hulk's music

01:22:21.440 and he did all like

01:22:22.180 a lot of his like things

01:22:23.280 you know

01:22:23.720 and then he made like a speech

01:22:25.380 and then he disappeared

01:22:26.180 but

01:22:26.500 but it was

01:22:28.760 it was everything

01:22:29.500 it was like

01:22:30.180 you know

01:22:31.260 he was so much of my childhood

01:22:32.380 he was like one of the first person

01:22:33.820 that I ever saw

01:22:34.740 like in our neighborhood

01:22:35.780 like a lot of people

01:22:36.460 didn't have anything

01:22:37.140 but when wrestling came on

01:22:38.160 it felt like you had something

01:22:39.220 I don't know why right

01:22:40.160 it's like a soap opera for kids

01:22:41.840 yeah

01:22:42.400 you know

01:22:42.920 we know the story

01:22:43.880 they double teamed them

01:22:45.340 they cut them up

01:22:46.100 they put them to sleep

01:22:46.880 They jumped through him over the rope.

01:22:49.040 Fucking yeah.

01:22:51.080 Yeah, all of that.

01:22:52.120 But anyway, so that was like our hero.

01:22:53.680 It was like a soapbox.

01:22:54.640 We knew it was a storyline.

01:22:56.140 But we, as kids, we thought, I think you believe it's so real.

01:22:59.200 Oh, 100%.

01:23:00.040 It was so good.

01:23:01.080 So that was like one of our heroes.

01:23:03.080 So to go was just, yeah, I don't know.

01:23:04.520 It was pretty special.

01:23:05.460 And his son gave a speech.

01:23:07.020 It was nice, man.

01:23:08.060 It was just, but it didn't feel like he passed away because he's so much larger.

01:23:13.100 Did you ever talk to Hulk on this show?

01:23:15.000 Yep.

01:23:15.540 And I'll tell you this.

01:23:16.220 When I met you downstairs and I got to shake your hand,

01:23:19.700 I was like, that's the strongest person I'd ever, like,

01:23:23.640 could we give, like, a mini hug?

01:23:25.480 I said, that's, I walked out.

01:23:26.700 I said, that's the strongest person I've ever given a mini hug to.

01:23:29.760 The second strongest was Hulk Hogan.

01:23:32.080 Really?

01:23:32.600 Yep.

01:23:33.180 Hulk was massive, man.

01:23:34.340 He was a big star.

01:23:36.180 He was just such a big star.

01:23:37.640 You could never imagine how big he was.

01:23:39.600 Who was, like, a hero to you like that?

01:23:41.940 Bruno Sammartino.

01:23:43.320 Bruno Sammartino?

01:23:44.940 That was my hero, my guy.

01:23:46.280 Wow.

01:23:47.380 He could beat everybody.

01:23:48.060 He was champion for 12 years.

01:23:49.700 Yeah, he's amazing.

01:23:50.180 He could beat everybody.

01:23:51.700 He was champion.

01:23:52.440 Listen, I was seven until I was like, what, seven to like 20 almost.

01:24:00.460 Yeah.

01:24:00.880 Champion.

01:24:01.800 He was a legend, man.

01:24:02.720 Yeah.

01:24:03.060 I got to interview one of the Von Ericks one time, Kevin Von Erick.

01:24:05.980 I don't know if you remember.

01:24:06.700 They died at four.

01:24:07.860 Yeah.

01:24:08.420 Listen, man.

01:24:09.700 I'm a historian.

01:24:10.600 Don't play with me now.

01:24:11.720 Yeah.

01:24:12.520 Ask me some questions.

01:24:13.660 I have read, actually, that you, like, studied a lot of, like, you really enjoy, like, philosophy, like, Tolstoy, Alexander the Great.

01:24:25.300 Who were some, like, famous warriors that you admire the most, kind of, in history?

01:24:29.300 Oh, all of them.

01:24:30.140 Achilles, Alexander, Hannibal.

01:24:33.220 There was just El Cid.

01:24:34.500 There was just so many different concepts.

01:24:36.660 You say, why do you want to do this?

01:24:38.580 Because, no, I, some of them want to be God.

01:24:41.340 They believe if I control all this world,

01:24:43.940 if I control the world, I'm a God.

01:24:46.380 And they said, at the end of the day,

01:24:48.400 they realized they were nothing, you know?

01:24:51.720 But can you even relate to that?

01:24:53.200 Like, did you ever have a time in your life

01:24:54.540 where you're, because our ego

01:24:55.380 is one of the scariest things, right?

01:25:00.100 You can only play with the thought of it.

01:25:01.940 It's not sincere, it's not real.

01:25:04.140 Yeah.

01:25:05.380 Only way you're a God is if you live forever.

01:25:09.380 You're immortal.

01:25:10.720 You know, but we have demigods now.

01:25:13.620 Now we have authors that turn people into gods.

01:25:18.600 You know?

01:25:18.900 Like, what do you mean by that?

01:25:20.400 Some people will never be forgotten.

01:25:22.240 Napoleon and all these guys.

01:25:23.740 To know your history, you have to know these people.

01:25:27.400 They're part of history.

01:25:28.640 We can't know our history if we don't know these people.

01:25:31.700 That's what makes them godly.

01:25:33.580 Oh, only if we know them.

01:25:35.880 You never get to know them unless you read about them.

01:25:39.720 They're only in special places to know their identity.

01:25:43.520 Did you, like, what was one of the toughest times you ever had with your own ego?

01:25:46.400 Because, like, ego is just so scary, right?

01:25:48.380 I don't know.

01:25:48.940 My ego is so personal, you know?

01:25:54.980 I don't know how to even consider it.

01:25:56.600 I just want to do better than before.

01:25:58.480 I don't think I have, you know, I do think I'm Alexander the Great sometimes.

01:26:03.860 No, I kid, but I think I have.

01:26:05.160 And what are you talking about?

01:26:05.980 Like, you do, like, you're dressing up in the bedroom.

01:26:08.460 What you doing?

01:26:08.940 A little role playing?

01:26:11.140 Put on that ATG hat.

01:26:12.540 It says ATG on it?

01:26:13.580 No, it's just that the way I conduct myself.

01:26:15.600 He was a cancer too, my Alexander.

01:26:17.360 And what his downfall was, was he's moody.

01:26:20.840 I learned that not to let my moods control my feelings.

01:26:24.500 He was really moody.

01:26:26.120 That was his downfall.

01:26:28.300 What helped you have discipline?

01:26:30.020 Say something like that you noticed about yourself.

01:26:32.080 What helped you create some little disciplines like that?

01:26:34.380 The best way to receive discipline is to do what you hate to do, but to do it like you love it.

01:26:41.520 You do that, that's discipline.

01:26:44.360 And is that something you've really practiced?

01:26:46.500 That's all I've practiced my whole life, even now.

01:26:51.820 Did you always love fighting, or did you hate fighting?

01:26:55.440 No, I loved it.

01:26:56.280 I loved the concept of fighting.

01:26:58.640 I loved the fighters.

01:27:00.420 I was one of the greatest fighters in the world to know my name.

01:27:03.500 I would, you know, I would be on my knee, kiss their hands, kiss their feet.

01:27:08.060 I loved them.

01:27:08.660 I worshipped them.

01:27:10.460 I believed that they touched me.

01:27:11.860 They had some magic on me.

01:27:13.500 So I always wanted to be around.

01:27:14.940 I carried their bags for them.

01:27:17.020 I gave them money.

01:27:17.840 When I became a big time fighter, I always gave them money because they're normally broken down.

01:27:21.360 They don't have no money.

01:27:23.020 You know, most of them have dementia.

01:27:24.480 So I always gave them money to care of them.

01:27:26.740 Gave it and took it away if they got that dementia.

01:27:28.740 You feel me?

01:27:29.260 They run it right back, friend.

01:27:30.640 But I used to...

01:27:32.680 But paying homage, you're saying?

01:27:33.880 Yeah, I had to pay homage.

01:27:35.180 If I didn't even see these guys, I wouldn't want to be who I am today.

01:27:38.240 These guys inspired me to be a fighter.

01:27:40.320 I didn't want to be nothing else.

01:27:42.020 Even though I saw that they turned out, I normally would turn out like these guys,

01:27:45.240 nothing, begging.

01:27:46.560 I still wanted to be a fighter.

01:27:47.920 I didn't care.

01:27:48.500 I wanted to be in that fraternity.

01:27:52.820 Dude, that's so interesting to hear.

01:27:54.340 Yeah, I never think about that.

01:27:55.960 It's like, yeah, like, I didn't just, we didn't just come up with the idea of ourselves all by ourselves.

01:28:02.680 Like, there was so much influence in people that did something before us that, like, let us, no matter what our job is or what our thing is that we like to do in life.

01:28:10.760 That's interesting, man.

01:28:12.160 I forget about that sometimes.

01:28:13.420 Like, yeah, sometimes I get, I don't get stuck there much, but sometimes it'll be like, oh, I'm, like, yeah, I made me.

01:28:20.220 It deals.

01:28:20.720 Do you ever think about who you are?

01:28:22.520 How you really got here?

01:28:24.400 What you really consist of?

01:28:26.860 Is there something more than you?

01:28:28.840 Are we going to see each other again at another time?

01:28:31.300 Are we living in parallel life?

01:28:33.720 Is this right here going on somewhere else in life?

01:28:36.600 We have so much energy, we don't even know about ourselves.

01:28:39.160 We know everything else, but we know nothing about us.

01:28:42.280 Oh, yeah, dude.

01:28:43.360 I didn't, like, most of my life, I wasn't even me.

01:28:49.740 I was just, like, some survival mechanism that had started off.

01:28:53.920 Does that make any sense to you?

01:28:55.060 A hundred percent.

01:28:56.260 That's the first thing that happens.

01:28:57.780 Self-preservation starts first.

01:29:00.080 And then once we get situated,

01:29:01.640 then we try to figure everything else out.

01:29:03.840 Yeah.

01:29:05.440 Yeah, man, it took forever.

01:29:06.880 Like, it took me probably 30 years just to exhale, you know?

01:29:10.520 I understand.

01:29:12.000 I understand, brother.

01:29:13.400 And then it's scary because there's times I thought, man, like,

01:29:17.760 I don't even know if I wanted to be like a funny guy.

01:29:20.340 I might need to be wanting somebody that worked at like a clothing,

01:29:23.340 like a haberdasher or whatever, like a singer.

01:29:26.160 But that was the first thing

01:29:28.580 That I could get people to like

01:29:30.040 You get attention

01:29:31.000 Yeah

01:29:31.380 I see you

01:29:32.840 And so I couldn't

01:29:33.540 Like I was just

01:29:34.180 I didn't have another choice

01:29:36.000 That formed everything I was

01:29:37.440 You know

01:29:37.780 I wanted to be seen so much

01:29:39.320 I was a little baby

01:29:40.160 And my mother and her friend

01:29:41.460 Everybody was having fun drinking

01:29:42.780 I put my finger in drain

01:29:44.460 I put it in my mouth

01:29:45.680 And I started screaming

01:29:48.100 Everybody grabbed me

01:29:49.000 And took me to the hospital

01:29:49.960 But I wanted that attention

01:29:51.340 At such a young age

01:29:52.620 Yeah

01:29:53.020 Oh I love going to the hospital dude

01:29:55.400 because...

01:29:56.440 They had good food

01:29:57.220 back then, too.

01:29:57.900 And they give you

01:29:58.440 attention, bro.

01:29:59.620 Yeah.

01:30:00.300 Dude, they had a couple

01:30:01.020 ladies would come in

01:30:02.160 and care about you.

01:30:03.240 Even a gay dude,

01:30:04.160 they slip in there

01:30:04.980 every now and then.

01:30:06.740 But still, bro,

01:30:07.980 that Jim McMahon.

01:30:09.540 Love is love, I tell you.

01:30:11.160 Hey, bro.

01:30:12.020 Love is love.

01:30:13.500 I got a question, Mike.

01:30:15.420 Did anybody ever...

01:30:18.420 Because I just got back

01:30:19.120 from Lexington, right?

01:30:20.140 Lexington, Kentucky,

01:30:20.980 and they have the

01:30:21.860 derby race there,

01:30:22.880 and it's a beautiful place.

01:30:23.940 We just shot a special

01:30:24.740 for Netflix actually

01:30:25.520 that's coming out

01:30:26.220 in like about two months

01:30:27.420 so I'm excited about that

01:30:28.480 but did anybody ever

01:30:29.580 approach you

01:30:30.160 to buy your semen?

01:30:34.160 And I mean that honestly

01:30:35.460 and I don't mean that

01:30:37.340 in like a negative word.

01:30:40.460 No, I mean

01:30:41.320 I gave it away free.

01:30:42.620 Why didn't they want to buy it?

01:30:47.460 Bro!

01:30:49.440 Dude, we're giving

01:30:50.480 our busted ass semen

01:30:51.800 away out here.

01:30:52.660 You over there,

01:30:53.480 Dang, bruh.

01:30:56.860 I'm free.

01:30:58.540 What?

01:30:59.840 I had no idea they were selling.

01:31:01.940 They were buying.

01:31:04.380 Dude.

01:31:05.060 I'd be a billionaire right now.

01:31:06.900 You can still.

01:31:08.860 Bro, as long as you can still warm up a badge, bro.

01:31:11.440 You can sell it at the merch stand over here.

01:31:13.840 If I was single, I would.

01:31:16.200 Oh, look.

01:31:17.200 That's true.

01:31:17.900 He might have an issue with it.

01:31:19.040 I'd be a maniac.

01:31:20.820 God, bruh.

01:31:21.580 I could give her a couple ounces

01:31:23.980 for you out back at this joint today, man.

01:31:27.900 I'm happy the way my life is now.

01:31:30.000 Yeah.

01:31:30.860 What's a few things,

01:31:32.040 before we go, Mike,

01:31:32.700 what's a few things that make you,

01:31:34.160 that bring you some of the most joy

01:31:35.500 that you have today?

01:31:36.720 And that can be something small.

01:31:38.220 It could be anything.

01:31:40.100 Just my children.

01:31:41.100 I have to live the life that I live.

01:31:42.780 That's the only thing.

01:31:43.780 That's all I care about.

01:31:44.880 Is it?

01:31:45.480 That's all I care about.

01:31:48.440 Yeah, is that something?

01:31:49.400 And this might even make them strong,

01:31:51.180 But I won't take the risk

01:31:52.500 It might kill them too

01:31:53.700 Wait, say that one more time for me

01:31:54.980 I said it might even make them strong

01:31:56.740 But it might kill them too

01:31:58.540 Oh, they have to go through the same stuff

01:32:00.100 Yeah

01:32:00.420 I don't want to take the chance

01:32:02.260 I like the way they're living now

01:32:03.880 Yeah

01:32:04.720 Well, you did it

01:32:06.600 Yeah, man

01:32:07.340 A lot of help

01:32:08.120 A lot of help

01:32:08.920 A lot of help

01:32:09.760 Yeah

01:32:10.720 Yeah, we don't do it alone

01:32:13.160 Excuse me?

01:32:14.300 No, no way

01:32:15.540 No way

01:32:17.200 You realize real quick

01:32:18.720 When you have children

01:32:19.480 You need help

01:32:20.840 Yeah

01:32:21.500 You need a lot of help

01:32:23.080 Thank you so much

01:32:25.640 For joining us today

01:32:26.280 Mike

01:32:26.460 I want to say that

01:32:27.020 Don't worry about it

01:32:27.360 You have a

01:32:32.700 One

01:32:33.220 You have a one man show

01:32:34.580 That's going to be

01:32:35.160 That's a live show

01:32:36.940 That your wife wrote

01:32:38.180 Is that right?

01:32:39.080 Yes she did

01:32:39.720 Wow

01:32:40.480 And did she have to

01:32:41.460 Get you to sign off

01:32:42.340 Did y'all do some teamwork

01:32:43.300 Or what was it?

01:32:44.320 Sign off for what matter

01:32:45.420 That this is her work

01:32:46.420 And I don't get any money for it

01:32:47.780 What do you mean

01:32:48.360 Sign off

01:32:49.060 I mean

01:32:50.140 Did she just like say

01:32:51.820 Or was it like

01:32:52.800 Did you guys like

01:32:53.780 How do you put that together

01:32:54.940 Because it's interesting

01:32:55.880 That she would write it

01:32:56.660 Is it just about

01:32:57.200 It's talk

01:32:57.760 It's talk

01:32:58.640 It's talk

01:32:58.980 It's talk

01:32:59.740 About dark shit

01:33:01.740 You know

01:33:02.380 And it works out well

01:33:03.620 Yeah

01:33:04.120 Like you'll love it

01:33:06.700 When you hear

01:33:07.060 The midget story

01:33:08.380 You got a good one in it

01:33:09.480 Oh

01:33:09.780 And it's in the show

01:33:11.080 Oh yeah

01:33:12.080 Save some of it

01:33:13.600 Yeah I'm gonna

01:33:13.960 You know what

01:33:14.640 I'll come out to one

01:33:15.420 You gotta check this out

01:33:17.080 Yeah

01:33:17.380 I'll come out

01:33:18.020 I'll even come on stage

01:33:18.900 And just listen to it

01:33:19.640 I'll put on something little for you.

01:33:22.760 Not for you, I'll just wear it.

01:33:24.880 Tell me about little, how little works.

01:33:27.560 I'll put on a small shirt.

01:33:28.840 With a thong, you'll wear a thong.

01:33:30.100 No, no, bruh.

01:33:31.920 I'm just saying a small shirt.

01:33:35.840 But you have that one-man show that's going to be,

01:33:37.720 and that's going to be a tour.

01:33:40.360 We'll see.

01:33:41.120 Okay.

01:33:41.600 We'll see how much they're paying me for it.

01:33:43.520 We'll see.

01:33:44.440 And you have your documentary that's coming out on Netflix.

01:33:48.760 Yes, I do.

01:33:49.640 You do.

01:33:54.000 Your guys know every fucking thing about you.

01:33:56.060 I know.

01:33:56.540 What the fuck?

01:33:57.380 I don't know.

01:33:57.820 We learned a lot tonight, dude.

01:34:00.420 If Cus D'Amato could see you now and see your whole life, right?

01:34:05.680 If he could see your whole life, you know,

01:34:07.320 and just get to spend some time with you today.

01:34:09.600 Do you think, like, what would be something that you would like to,

01:34:13.200 like a moment you would like to see with him or have him say?

01:34:17.080 What do you think would be something that he'd be impressed by?

01:34:19.640 I would say, Cuss,

01:34:22.040 everybody in the world says I'm the best ever.

01:34:24.140 What do you think?

01:34:29.160 What do we think, guys?

01:34:34.400 But know what he would say?

01:34:36.900 You know what Cuss would say?

01:34:38.400 What would he say, Mike?

01:34:41.420 You didn't move your head enough.

01:34:43.080 That guy was a little faster, he would have hit you.

01:34:45.260 and that guy

01:34:49.180 was a little faster

01:34:50.220 he was gonna hit you

01:34:51.140 knock a guy

01:34:52.280 in eight seconds

01:34:52.960 he was a little faster

01:34:54.220 he met you

01:34:55.080 had your head up

01:34:56.380 man thank you so much

01:34:58.900 for sharing your time

01:34:59.540 with us today

01:34:59.960 for bringing your family

01:35:01.220 here today

01:35:01.660 just for the opportunity

01:35:02.480 that we get to see you

01:35:03.420 they all love you

01:35:04.180 I don't know who the fuck

01:35:05.020 you are

01:35:05.560 my family

01:35:06.520 my kids love you

01:35:08.800 you know the truth dude

01:35:12.240 I don't know who the fuck

01:35:13.400 I am either bro

01:35:14.580 I wish I did, too.

01:35:15.860 But, hey, but I love you, man.

01:35:17.780 Thank you so kindly, brother.

01:35:18.980 And that's the truth.

01:35:20.000 And thank you.

01:35:22.700 Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Tyson.

01:35:24.360 Thank you.

01:35:44.480 But when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:35:49.160 I can feel it in my bones.

01:35:53.380 But it's gonna take...

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - May 15, 2026

#658 - Mike Tyson (Live at the Wiltern)

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