This Past Weekend with Theo Von - #658 - Mike Tyson (Live at the Wiltern)

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00:00:30 Gang, gang, baby, praise God.

00:00:40 Good to see you guys tonight.

00:00:41 Thank you for coming out.

00:00:42 And, um, you know, this podcast has given me like just so many, uh, little moments in

00:00:50 my life that have been so special.

00:00:51 And, um, and tonight is certainly no different.

00:00:55 like, you know, it's rare that you get to sit across from one of the most recognizable people

00:01:01 in human history. This is a man who's been the heavyweight champion of the world, okay? The

00:01:08 entire world. He's been everything. He's been a father. He's been a dang inmate. He's been a drug

00:01:17 dealer. He's been a... But I'm just saying, this is a man who has done, I mean that admirationally, 0.57

00:01:23 honestly uh he's been a father he's just done so many things um life has put so much on his

00:01:30 shoulders and uh and I'm curious to know what that's what it's like um to be him you know and

00:01:37 I'm grateful to get to spend time with him today uh I feel very fortunate to announce today's guest

00:01:43 is Mr. Mike Tyson

00:01:44 Thank you.

00:02:14 You look sharp, Mike.

00:02:27 Thank you.

00:02:28 Thank you very much.

00:02:29 I went to Stefano Ritchie because I knew I was coming here.

00:02:32 I wasn't going to wear a suit.

00:02:33 I was going to be casual, but I had to be casually sharp.

00:02:36 Yeah, yeah.

00:02:37 I think you did it, man.

00:02:38 Thank you.

00:02:40 Do you like dressing up or not?

00:02:42 I love it.

00:02:43 You do?

00:02:44 I do it just for no reason.

00:02:45 I'm in my closet just trying on clothes.

00:02:48 Yeah.

00:02:49 Like a little mannequin, kind of?

00:02:51 Or like a very tough mannequin?

00:02:54 No, it's like a real-life stud just trying on his clothes.

00:03:01 You like putting on stuff.

00:03:02 Have you always been like that, or was that kind of...

00:03:04 You know, let me tell you a story.

00:03:05 One day, these guys, they pretty much bullied me to help them.

00:03:11 That's how I fell in love with pigeons.

00:03:12 to help me build that pigeon coop.

00:03:15 And so I started coming there often.

00:03:17 But I was, what, 11 years old.

00:03:19 I never knew about washing and changing clothes.

00:03:22 My mother would take a hot washing cloth, 1.00

00:03:25 put soap on the towel, and just wash me.

00:03:27 I never washed myself. 0.75

00:03:28 So after being on the pigeon coop,

00:03:30 I have tar from building the pigeon coop. 0.99

00:03:32 I got shit on me. 0.99

00:03:34 Some guys took me to this neighborhood dance. 0.99

00:03:37 And everybody said, yo, John, hey, Winky,

00:03:39 this your friend? 1.00

00:03:40 He got shit on me. 1.00

00:03:41 And then everybody started laughing at me. 1.00

00:03:43 I started laughing.

00:03:44 I was crying.

00:03:45 They were talking about me.

00:03:47 And ever since that, I became a criminal.

00:03:50 I only bought nice clothes.

00:03:54 There's something.

00:03:56 Isn't that crazy?

00:03:57 I became a criminal to buy nice clothes.

00:03:59 No one can ever laugh at me again.

00:04:01 Now every time somebody says, wow, you look nice.

00:04:05 Yeah.

00:04:05 You're under arrest, but you look great.

00:04:07 Yes.

00:04:07 Oh, I love those pictures.

00:04:08 Oh, those are the great ones.

00:04:10 Yeah, there's something more respectable about a criminal that is well-dressed, isn't there?

00:04:15 He becomes the rogue that we love.

00:04:18 It becomes the what, is it?

00:04:19 The rogue that we love.

00:04:21 The rogue that we love.

00:04:22 Rogue.

00:04:22 R-O-G-U-E?

00:04:23 Yes, sir. 0.99

00:04:24 Yes.

00:04:27 Thank you for joining me today, Mike.

00:04:28 I appreciate you, man.

00:04:29 And thank you for just, you've shared a lot of your life with the world.

00:04:33 Is it sometimes scary how much you've shared?

00:04:37 I have to direct you for a moment.

00:04:39 You had one made a mistake and called me a drug dealer.

00:04:42 I don't have the discipline to be a drug dealer

00:04:44 because I keep getting high on my own supply.

00:04:47 I wish I had the discipline to be a drug dealer.

00:04:49 I would be rich.

00:04:51 Like, everybody wants to buy.

00:04:52 The cops, everybody want to buy from me. 1.00

00:04:55 God damn. 1.00

00:04:56 I was, oh, man. 1.00

00:04:58 I'd have bought Coke from you.

00:04:59 Oh, thank you.

00:05:01 Thank you.

00:05:02 You're welcome.

00:05:02 Thank you.

00:05:04 You were going to say what?

00:05:05 I interrupted you.

00:05:06 I enjoyed getting high.

00:05:07 Getting high was my life.

00:05:10 Alcohol, too, but both of us, my life at one time.

00:05:12 I love, man.

00:05:14 I was sober.

00:05:14 I'm sober for nine years.

00:05:15 Believe that?

00:05:16 Sober for nine years?

00:05:17 Congratulations.

00:05:21 Sober for nine years.

00:05:23 On the count of three, can we both say our favorite drug,

00:05:25 if you want to say it at the same time, or is that weird?

00:05:28 Hey, man, I'm an equal opportunity.

00:05:34 I didn't have no favorite drug.

00:05:35 You didn't have a favorite, huh?

00:05:36 No.

00:05:37 Anything that got me out of me, I like

00:05:40 Anything that got you out of you

00:05:42 Yeah

00:05:43 Yeah, there's something about being yourself

00:05:46 It just gets to be too much, doesn't it?

00:05:48 Too much power, man

00:05:49 God gave me more than you can handle

00:05:50 You think that God put too much power in your hands?

00:05:53 No, no way

00:05:54 God broke me before he crowned me

00:05:56 Of course I'm going to be able to handle

00:05:57 He doesn't do that

00:06:03 Say, hey, you're a cool kid

00:06:04 Take that, boom

00:06:05 He doesn't do that

00:06:07 You know I've sat across from like different folks

00:06:10 And uh but nobody I think

00:06:12 Has had like like on their own face has so many

00:06:14 Like you have a lot of scars on you that are just

00:06:16 Built into you from like wars

00:06:18 Right do you ever look at

00:06:20 Your own face and you can know do you know like

00:06:22 Which ones are from which fights and stuff

00:06:23 I think you know listen that's interesting

00:06:26 That you said I think I think it comes

00:06:28 From accumulation of fighting

00:06:29 You know you don't wake up overnight and you got

00:06:32 A line on your face

00:06:34 it comes out for years and years of waking up

00:06:36 and you say, wow, I got a line on my face.

00:06:38 Okay.

00:06:38 Which was the, which was the start,

00:06:40 which was the start of 10 years ago.

00:06:42 But you just haven't seen it yet.

00:06:45 Oh, so he kind of gets worn in, sort of.

00:06:47 Oh, absolutely.

00:06:48 Yeah, pretty much.

00:06:50 You have a documentary that you're starting

00:06:52 that's coming out this year on Netflix.

00:06:54 Is that right?

00:06:55 I believe so.

00:06:56 I don't know when it's coming out,

00:06:57 but I believe it's coming out of the same.

00:07:00 Okay.

00:07:01 You've done a lot of documentaries.

00:07:02 Do you feel different about this one?

00:07:04 Do you feel like there's something different to offer now

00:07:09 to people that are going to consume it?

00:07:13 That's interesting that you say that.

00:07:15 I'm going to give you an honest answer.

00:07:17 There's things that people believe that other people want to hear from me

00:07:20 that I've been saying constantly since the beginning of interviews.

00:07:24 So it's more their perspective than it is my perspective. 1.00

00:07:28 I may think it's shit. 0.99

00:07:30 They may think it's a masterpiece. 1.00

00:07:33 So, no, I'm serious.

00:07:34 Yeah, no, I'll hear you.

00:07:35 It's all perspective.

00:07:36 You know, most of us don't like ourselves on the, you know,

00:07:39 we don't like ourselves up to that much, you know.

00:07:41 But, you know, the people do, I guess, right?

00:07:45 You can't help it that you're very, that everybody came to see you

00:07:48 and you're very popular.

00:07:49 You can't help that.

00:07:49 Not your fault.

00:07:52 You think it's your fault, really, that you're like this?

00:07:54 No, I think it's interesting.

00:07:57 Yeah.

00:07:57 Me too, yeah.

00:07:58 Yeah.

00:07:59 I can tell that you feel that way.

00:08:00 If you had a

00:08:02 If there was a time

00:08:03 In your life

00:08:03 That you could go back to

00:08:04 And had

00:08:04 A documentary crew

00:08:07 That just in your own life

00:08:09 Like in your childhood

00:08:10 Or anything

00:08:10 That you could just have

00:08:11 That footage

00:08:12 What would it be?

00:08:12 Would it be when I first

00:08:13 Met my mentor

00:08:14 Custodardo

00:08:15 I mean first

00:08:16 When

00:08:17 I met when I first

00:08:18 You mean the first day

00:08:19 No when I first

00:08:20 Got in trouble

00:08:20 And I was in that

00:08:21 June out of detention

00:08:22 I was doing stuff there

00:08:24 And then I started boxing

00:08:25 I started changing my life

00:08:26 Then I met him

00:08:27 That's the part

00:08:28 I wish he could come back

00:08:29 Yeah

00:08:29 I miss that.

00:08:31 What was it about it that...

00:08:32 I don't know.

00:08:33 I had somebody I loved, and they loved me.

00:08:35 How'd you know that he loved you? 1.00

00:08:37 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:08:38 Don't let me tell you. 1.00

00:08:38 He, um...

00:08:42 If...

00:08:43 Oh, if anybody say something...

00:08:45 If anybody say...

00:08:47 No, it's okay.

00:08:49 Look, it's hard to know.

00:08:51 Sometimes it's hard to know.

00:08:52 No, if anybody say something negative about me,

00:08:55 he would attack them. 0.96

00:08:58 75, he would attack. 0.53

00:08:59 So we protected you.

00:09:05 Yeah. 0.99

00:09:07 And why are you having me talking about this bullshit? 0.99

00:09:09 It's stop. 1.00

00:09:10 Stop. 1.00

00:09:11 Stop, motherfucker. 1.00

00:09:13 Stop. 1.00

00:09:15 Stop.

00:09:15 Yes, sir.

00:09:16 Yes, sir.

00:09:17 Stop.

00:09:18 Shouldn't the bell, shouldn't we go back to the corners for a minute?

00:09:24 No, I think it's just interesting.

00:09:25 Like, there's times in your life where people come along and they kind of, like, hold you up by the neck and, like, you know, kind of dry your cheeks and stuff like that and give you a place to be.

00:09:35 Everyone needs a mentor in their life.

00:09:38 Everybody.

00:09:39 Even if you got a bad mentor, that's better than having no mentor. 1.00

00:09:43 What was it, like, with Cuss outside of the ring? 0.99

00:09:46 What was that like?

00:09:47 Like, what was that energy?

00:09:48 Because their family adopted you or no?

00:09:49 Yeah.

00:09:50 They did?

00:09:50 Yeah.

00:09:51 Did you have your own room?

00:09:52 Well, I had to earn that.

00:09:53 You did?

00:09:54 You had to earn it.

00:09:54 I had to earn that, yeah.

00:09:55 And how did you earn it?

00:09:56 Like, what was that like, you mean?

00:09:57 I had to do my chores.

00:09:59 I had to, you know, get my grades up.

00:10:02 You know, I'm getting C minuses, so I'm getting Ds now.

00:10:06 I'm getting Ds.

00:10:07 I'm coming up. 0.92

00:10:09 Teachers are writing nice letters back at home about I'm improving, all that crap. 0.56

00:10:13 So, yeah, he loved that stuff.

00:10:16 And was there stuff around the house that you had to do?

00:10:18 Like, what kind of chores?

00:10:19 Oh, I cleaned the dishes.

00:10:21 I took out the garbage.

00:10:22 I mopped and sleeped the floor.

00:10:24 Yeah, I did the whole thing, man.

00:10:25 Like, what was the different feeling that you got there, I guess?

00:10:28 Well, I felt I had to hold my head, and that was the structure I had

00:10:30 doing my tours, me building my discipline up.

00:10:33 After every train, every time I finished training,

00:10:37 I had to mop and sweep the gym, sweep and mop the gym.

00:10:40 Even when I was a big shot, I'd be in front cover of Sports Illustrated,

00:10:44 I'm taking all the pictures, boom, all day, the cameras,

00:10:47 everybody's looking at me, at the end of the day,

00:10:49 they're brooming the mop through the gym.

00:10:53 Amen.

00:10:55 Whenever, because he passed away,

00:10:58 how long was he in your life for?

00:11:02 Since I was 12, so I was 19.

00:11:05 And when your career grew, did you guys,

00:11:07 did it put any, like, was it harder to be close to him?

00:11:09 Like, did you get, like, so kind of, like, busy

00:11:12 that you, that it was tougher to...

00:11:14 You know, let me explain something.

00:11:16 He was like my father.

00:11:16 He was my adopted father, legally adopted father.

00:11:19 I wasn't out of his sight much.

00:11:23 He didn't let me out of his sight much.

00:11:24 And he watched you out.

00:11:26 He was my everything.

00:11:29 If anybody said something negative about me,

00:11:32 actually, he'd have to duck these stuff on the porch.

00:11:35 He was just like that.

00:11:37 And had you felt that before in your life, you think, or no?

00:11:40 Never, never.

00:11:42 If he told me to kill somebody, I would.

00:11:45 No, I'm telling you, that's how it was. 0.93

00:11:46 That's how deep it was. 1.00

00:11:48 He said, kill that boy, he's dead. 1.00

00:11:49 Yeah, tight shit, man. 1.00

00:11:50 People got to go. 1.00

00:11:52 Yeah, no, but that's

00:11:54 I'm just keeping it real

00:11:55 That's real talk

00:11:56 That's real talk

00:11:57 So the connection was

00:11:58 It was just that much

00:11:59 Yeah, sure

00:12:00 After he passed away

00:12:02 Did you try to find

00:12:03 Like another

00:12:04 Like custom model

00:12:05 There's nobody else like him

00:12:06 But was there a part of you

00:12:08 That was looking for

00:12:08 Something like that?

00:12:09 Not like that

00:12:10 No, it doesn't exist

00:12:11 That part was filled in?

00:12:13 Yeah

00:12:13 He was born only for me

00:12:16 He was what?

00:12:17 He was born only for me

00:12:18 Oh, you feel like

00:12:19 He was made for you

00:12:20 oh that's awesome and he probably felt that about you I bet well I hope so hope so have you had the

00:12:29 opportunity to try and be that for somebody else in your life or like do you feel like you have

00:12:34 some of the same like like capabilities that he had it takes a special person to be that type of

00:12:39 person and we're all special in different ways I'm nowhere near the person that he was no we're born

00:12:44 from two different structures and fibers.

00:12:47 He's just a total disciplinarian.

00:12:51 He's just, he almost wants to be perfect.

00:12:54 He hardly makes any mistakes around people.

00:12:56 He won't do any.

00:12:57 He just wants to be right at every moment.

00:13:00 You know, he puts himself in a position to be right.

00:13:03 He's just, I could say megalomaniac,

00:13:06 but he was just a disciplinarian person.

00:13:09 Sometimes he'll go with your Southeastern.

00:13:11 He gets out of half.

00:13:13 I'll start beating for a week.

00:13:14 Sometimes eat what?

00:13:15 I'm sorry.

00:13:15 I'm going to move your mic.

00:13:16 He just may stop.

00:13:18 He just may stop eating for a week.

00:13:20 Just stop.

00:13:22 Just stop. 1.00

00:13:23 My wife does the same shit. 1.00

00:13:24 You got this in here. 1.00

00:13:27 And Mike, she was flagging me from back there.

00:13:30 Was she really?

00:13:30 She was. 1.00

00:13:31 Oh, that's some bullshit. 1.00

00:13:34 I knew that, right? 1.00

00:13:35 You see, I knew that shit. 1.00

00:13:38 I know that shit. 1.00

00:13:39 Kiki, do you love me? 1.00

00:13:41 She loves you.

00:13:43 That's what it's like.

00:13:44 If you love somebody

00:13:45 You gotta keep them clean

00:13:46 You know

00:13:46 I hear you

00:13:47 Can you say that last part though

00:13:50 He was such a disciplinarian

00:13:51 Was he

00:13:51 Was he disciplined

00:13:52 In his own life

00:13:53 Like did he like

00:13:54 Did he ever

00:13:54 He was in the army

00:13:55 He was in World War II

00:13:56 Okay so he was very

00:13:57 He almost had an

00:13:57 Institutionalized disciplinarian

00:13:59 Like if I'm going

00:14:00 To a school dance

00:14:01 And it's like

00:14:02 What three miles away

00:14:03 And the taxi's a little

00:14:04 Late

00:14:05 I say

00:14:05 Cause the taxi's

00:14:06 Gonna be a little

00:14:06 Late

00:14:07 I can't stay up for you

00:14:08 Run home

00:14:08 Now

00:14:09 I went to

00:14:11 The girl 0.98

00:14:11 To wait for the cab

00:14:12 I said baby

00:14:13 You gotta wait for the cab

00:14:14 I got my shoes

00:14:15 I'm running home

00:14:15 Did you really?

00:14:16 I got to run home

00:14:17 Yeah

00:14:18 And dress shoes

00:14:18 Probably for the dance

00:14:19 I got to run

00:14:20 I got to run home

00:14:21 Get home now

00:14:22 Run

00:14:23 Click click click click click click

00:14:27 Dang

00:14:28 Right 1.00

00:14:28 It's hard to keep a girl 1.00

00:14:30 When you acting like that

00:14:31 I was too

00:14:33 Yeah

00:14:33 I was extreme 0.51

00:14:35 It was hard to have a girl 0.95

00:14:36 I was too extreme 0.98

00:14:36 With training

00:14:37 What was your

00:14:38 Relations

00:14:39 Like

00:14:40 Was it easy for you 0.99

00:14:43 To relate to girls

00:14:43 When you were young

00:14:44 Like to date

00:14:45 And that kind of stuff

00:14:45 No way

00:14:46 It was

00:14:46 Listen

00:14:47 It was all about fighting

00:14:49 It was all about fighting

00:14:52 Oh so you really set

00:14:53 You weren't even

00:14:54 Trying to date

00:14:54 Or anything

00:14:55 As a youngster

00:14:56 Yeah I dated

00:14:56 Kind of late

00:14:57 In life

00:14:58 Yeah because

00:14:58 I was

00:14:59 I used to

00:14:59 Feeling up with fighting 0.87

00:15:00 I talked to a girl 1.00

00:15:03 I'm talking about fighting 0.82

00:15:04 She's talking about what 0.80

00:15:05 Yeah

00:15:06 Yeah they don't want

00:15:09 To see you shadow boxing

00:15:10 Yeah

00:15:11 Because they want to hug

00:15:13 I mean, they like the part when the ref tries to separate them.

00:15:15 No, no.

00:15:16 They don't mind seeing me shadow boxing, but they want to talk deep.

00:15:19 I want to talk about fighting.

00:15:21 You loved it that much.

00:15:22 Oh, yeah.

00:15:22 I loved it.

00:15:24 I loved it.

00:15:25 Why was it such a magnet for you, do you think, fighting?

00:15:28 I think because when I was young and I watched some of the big time fights,

00:15:31 I think it was just the way the crowd rooted for people's names.

00:15:34 I wanted them to root my name one day.

00:15:37 Yeah.

00:15:38 That's cool, huh?

00:15:39 Did you feel, like, yeah, why did you, like, it's interesting.

00:15:42 some people had this feeling they need they want somebody to see them right or or they want to have

00:15:50 they want to have a say in the world like did you feel like you like were missing part of that like

00:15:54 were you not being seen or do you know i guess when the custom model told me i'm the greatest

00:15:58 fighter since the beginning of life so i was 12 he told me that at 12 and you believed him yes

00:16:05 because you trusted him yes wow that's pretty powerful that it would just be able to you be

00:16:11 able to envelop that that much.

00:16:12 No, how can you pick a kid 12 years old,

00:16:16 tell him you're the greatest fighter in the world, 0.97

00:16:18 and you're looking at him like he's some old pervert guy

00:16:21 trying to do something, you know? 1.00

00:16:24 I'm with me, I'm a thief, I'm a crook. 0.99

00:16:28 I'm some fucking world greatest fighter of all time. 0.99

00:16:31 So I thought this was some kind of trick. 0.98

00:16:32 The youth center was trying to pull on me.

00:16:35 Oh, yeah, yeah, those youth centers.

00:16:37 So this guy turned out to be the real deal,

00:16:40 and I turned out to be Mike, 0.99

00:16:41 I'm like whatever the fuck people think I am. 0.99

00:16:44 Yeah, so he was the real deal. 0.99

00:16:46 Do you think if you hadn't had like,

00:16:49 because, you know,

00:16:49 I've heard you talk about being scared as a kid

00:16:51 and having like, you know,

00:16:53 your mother passed away when you were young

00:16:54 and when I've talked about some of that,

00:16:56 I'm just saying things that I...

00:16:57 You can talk about anything.

00:16:58 Okay.

00:17:00 Those are just some things that I know about you, right?

00:17:02 I don't know you,

00:17:03 but those are things that I know about you.

00:17:05 You may think you know about me,

00:17:06 but you'll figure them out now.

00:17:07 Okay.

00:17:08 Oh!

00:17:10 Oh, all right, all right, all right.

00:17:12 Thank you, Mike.

00:17:14 Thank you for spending time with us.

00:17:16 And with me.

00:17:17 Thank you.

00:17:18 I didn't think I was going to like you.

00:17:19 You've been a good brother.

00:17:21 Really?

00:17:22 Thanks, bro.

00:17:23 I appreciate that.

00:17:25 My wife told me, don't judge him, don't judge him.

00:17:28 I'm feeling where I am.

00:17:29 I said, don't judge him, don't judge him.

00:17:31 She's got a very, you could tell she's a very,

00:17:34 she has a good soul, your wife. 0.85

00:17:36 Yes, she did.

00:17:37 She believes in you.

00:17:38 Yes, she does.

00:17:40 do you think that you if you'd have been if you'd have had the things you needed as a child right 1.00

00:17:44 like the things that every child needs right like i don't want that stay away from me keep that shit 0.98

00:17:50 away from me i like i like to suffer you like the way it went i love to suffer i don't want no good 0.98

00:17:56 time right yeah oh you like the discomfort oh yes i like being i like being out of need

00:18:03 and i'm getting out of my comfort zone but if you'd have had those like if you had the

00:18:08 stereotypical things that people... 0.99

00:18:10 I would be a bitch. 0.99

00:18:13 Would you have been the heavyweight champion of the world? 1.00

00:18:15 No.

00:18:16 Wow. 1.00

00:18:17 The heavyweight bitch of the world. 1.00

00:18:20 I know. 1.00

00:18:21 I'd be wearing slippers during the day, probably.

00:18:24 I'd be wearing dang slippers during the day. 0.86

00:18:26 Yeah, my mother would baby me, 1.00

00:18:29 wouldn't allow me to fight and all that stuff. 0.97

00:18:32 It wasn't meant for me to have my mother. 0.51

00:18:34 Did she baby you as a kid?

00:18:35 What was she like? 1.00

00:18:36 Like, she was a drunk, she was a prostitute, but she was who she was. 1.00

00:18:42 You know, my mom, my mom had like an issue when I was a kid. 0.90

00:18:47 Like, she couldn't look at me because...

00:18:50 Why? What's wrong with you?

00:18:51 Oh, I know.

00:18:52 What's wrong with you?

00:18:54 You know something that we don't know? 1.00

00:18:56 I don't know shit. 0.99

00:18:59 But something was wrong with her. 0.99

00:19:01 She just couldn't...

00:19:03 like something that like when my mom was growing up like her dad like um would make him would make 1.00

00:19:09 them like put his food under their table under the door he he would not talk to my mom for like

00:19:14 for months at a time and he would go in and out of their house through the window that sounds like

00:19:18 a mental illness yeah right a mental illness what they call now a mental illness right right at the

00:19:23 time yeah it was just like kind of a reverse drive-through yeah dinner i guess i'm good with

00:19:29 Your dad, I swear.

00:19:31 But anyway, I'm just saying, like, there was just, like, so early on I realized I got to take care of myself, right?

00:19:38 Like, and I don't know if that was the truth, but inside of myself I made that decision.

00:19:41 Like, I probably was a kid for maybe 45 seconds, and since then I was an adult.

00:19:46 I don't care if I was two months old.

00:19:47 Does that make any sense to you?

00:19:49 Exactly.

00:19:50 You know, my wife is kind of shamanic, and she believes that we ask for our parents.

00:19:58 and then when I start believing

00:19:59 I said if I didn't have

00:20:00 the parents I had

00:20:01 I would never be me

00:20:02 I said she might got something

00:20:04 I never tell her

00:20:05 I'm saying it now

00:20:06 I said she may have

00:20:07 something there

00:20:08 I did pick those parents

00:20:09 if I didn't have those parents 1.00

00:20:10 I would be fucked up 1.00

00:20:12 she might be right 0.99

00:20:13 what's a nice memory

00:20:15 that you have with your mom

00:20:16 that was like

00:20:16 something you think about

00:20:17 that was like

00:20:18 kind of like a moment

00:20:19 that you kind of cherish

00:20:20 it was one

00:20:25 Christmas day

00:20:27 And her birthday was on Christmas.

00:20:29 Your mother's birthday was on Christmas?

00:20:30 I don't know how we got some money, but it was just a festival.

00:20:35 Her and her friends, they had food there, and we were eating food,

00:20:39 and we had never had that much food before.

00:20:41 And I don't know how they got the money.

00:20:43 I know it was something skullduggerish, but I'm sure.

00:20:48 Skulldugger, a little bit of skullduggery?

00:20:49 Yeah.

00:20:50 So I'm sure something that broke the law, but it was just a great moment.

00:20:57 And that's what I was accustomed to.

00:20:59 I was accustomed to the pimps, the criminals, the stick-up guys, the robbers,

00:21:03 all being over my mother's house and stuff,

00:21:05 because we were the house of crime.

00:21:07 I lived in the house of crime.

00:21:09 Where did you sleep?

00:21:10 Did you have your own room?

00:21:11 No, for my own room.

00:21:12 I slept on the floor in a blanket somewhere.

00:21:16 The beds are for the... 0.53

00:21:19 For the Johns?

00:21:20 For the Johns, yeah, exactly.

00:21:22 I was everything for the tricks, but yeah, the Johns.

00:21:25 The beds belong there.

00:21:26 We got a bell.

00:21:27 Are you for real?

00:21:27 I don't know if my brother or sister heard me.

00:21:30 They bring back memories soon.

00:21:31 A bad trip.

00:21:34 You slept on each other's backs.

00:21:36 One person had to lay down flat,

00:21:37 and the other person got to sleep,

00:21:39 and then you switched.

00:21:40 We didn't do that.

00:21:40 We had slept on different parts on the floor,

00:21:42 but, you know, you had to,

00:21:44 if it's hot, you had to air condition,

00:21:46 then you turned to big fan.

00:21:49 Oh, dude, I remember,

00:21:50 my mom would only let it be 80 degrees in the house, right?

00:21:54 And I'm like, well, that,

00:21:55 and at the time, when I was a kid,

00:21:57 I didn't know that that's pretty warm, right?

00:21:58 And so we would go get the cold water

00:22:02 and we would just put it all over the sheet

00:22:04 and then we would lay on it like that.

00:22:05 Make a little beach, go to Florida.

00:22:16 But it was fun.

00:22:19 Listen, right?

00:22:20 Poverty is just so beautiful sometimes.

00:22:23 If you can laugh at it, it's hilarious.

00:22:25 Oh, it is. 0.99

00:22:26 We had some fucking... 0.99

00:22:27 Nothing more funny than poverty. 1.00

00:22:29 Oh, dude.

00:22:29 It doesn't matter.

00:22:30 It doesn't care how rich or famous you get.

00:22:32 It still affects you.

00:22:35 It doesn't care how big you get.

00:22:37 Remember this?

00:22:39 It comes out.

00:22:40 Do you remember this?

00:22:42 Bro, I'll tell you something. 0.82

00:22:44 This is a little racial, but let's do it because... 0.99

00:22:46 Go for it. 0.95

00:22:48 We used to live like...

00:22:50 People would burn their trash in the ditch, right?

00:22:52 And so me and my buddy, William, we would get out there.

00:22:55 and my buddy Larry and we would get all wet

00:22:57 and we would run and jump through the smoke in the ditch

00:22:59 until we were pretty darker-ish, right?

00:23:03 And then, bro, we would kind of wait

00:23:06 until somebody drove by and yelled the N-word at us, bro. 0.99

00:23:14 The N-word, I hate this, say nigger. 0.99

00:23:17 Say nigger. 1.00

00:23:19 You don't say N-word for a bitch, say nigger. 1.00

00:23:21 All these people drove by and called us niggers. 1.00

00:23:25 Wait, wait, hold on.

00:23:26 That's what you don't say, man.

00:23:28 Do you need me to say?

00:23:29 If you need, I'm just, I don't want to do something.

00:23:31 I can't tell what's going on here, to be honest with you.

00:23:37 I mean, I'll jump through some.

00:23:39 I just need to say one thing and I'll be ashamed.

00:23:43 All right?

00:23:43 Yeah. 0.99

00:23:44 Say, I'm a nigga lover. 0.99

00:23:45 You need me to say it? 0.99

00:23:46 Yeah. 0.99

00:23:47 Say, I'm a nigga lover. 0.99

00:23:48 Go ahead, man. 0.98

00:23:49 But does it mean all of them?

00:23:52 Kind of, a little bit.

00:23:53 Even a rotten one

00:23:57 I don't know

00:24:00 I don't know if people think I should do it or not

00:24:02 Do it

00:24:03 Do it

00:24:04 Do it

00:24:05 Do it

00:24:06 Do it

00:24:07 Do it

00:24:08 Do it

00:24:09 Please

00:24:10 Please

00:24:11 Please

00:24:11 Come on man 0.99

00:24:13 Stop fucking the show up man 1.00

00:24:14 You fucking the show up man 1.00

00:24:16 You right bro 1.00

00:24:17 Dang dude 1.00

00:24:17 Shit 1.00

00:24:18 I just 0.99

00:24:19 What can I say bro 0.99

00:24:22 I'm a n***a lover, bro. 0.96

00:24:25 God is great, brother. 0.97

00:24:27 God is great.

00:24:28 God is great.

00:24:29 Now, hold on.

00:24:31 Now, who is cheering for this?

00:24:37 I love this show. 0.97

00:24:40 I love this f***ing show. 1.00

00:24:43 Fuck, are we going to jail or not? 1.00

00:24:44 Are we okay? 1.00

00:24:45 Another knockout for Mike.

00:24:54 Here comes the podcast.

00:24:56 It's because he's got a new podcast.

00:24:58 He's trying to get me off the charts.

00:24:59 That's why.

00:25:02 Mike, people are going to be this. 1.00

00:25:03 And he's scared to say nigga love. 1.00

00:25:07 I don't know if those are the same thing. 1.00

00:25:13 Oh. 1.00

00:25:15 being a nigga look that nigga pussy's a motherfucker i'm sorry forgive me guys 1.00

00:25:22 hold on i'm sorry i mean i don't know i've had a little i don't you know i don't a little what 1.00

00:25:28 huh you have a little or did you have a little i don't know i think we should move on

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00:28:44 let's keep it on moving on up okay moving on up remember that's our dude remember when good

00:28:52 times was popping bro it was really good time dude i'll tell you a story so i'm in the airport

00:28:56 one time right jimmy walker uh the actor from good times right one of the great comedian

00:29:03 he's walking in the airport somebody starts yelling dynamite at him the police thought it 0.99

00:29:08 was like uh yeah they didn't see him oh they just see a couple uh a couple of bitches yelling 0.95

00:29:16 dynamite and they just jumped on him right and i laughed i didn't i could have helped and told 0.98

00:29:20 people was going on, but I had to, I was in a hurry. You know, I had to get to Cincinnati.

00:29:27 Yeah, good time. That was a good show. Dude, Janet Jackson was on there. Yes. Did you ever get to

00:29:32 meet Janet? Yes, I have. I did have a chance to meet Janet. And someone said, this is a rumor

00:29:38 that I heard that you and Michael Jackson closed down SeaWorld one night and had a party there.

00:29:43 Is that true? This is not true at all. It's not true. Don King told me that. He's a liar.

00:29:50 I'm joking, he didn't tell me that, but we knew if he did, he'd have lied about it. 1.00

00:29:57 He tells the truth by accident.

00:30:00 He tells the truth by accident.

00:30:05 Hey, man, yeah, it is what it is, dude.

00:30:08 But no, did you actually get to spend time with Michael Jackson?

00:30:10 Yeah.

00:30:11 What was he like as a person?

00:30:13 A splendid, beautiful person.

00:30:16 Hit behind all that stuff.

00:30:17 He was a beautiful, calm, humble person.

00:30:19 and I didn't like him

00:30:20 for a long time

00:30:21 because my friend

00:30:22 had called me

00:30:22 he said hey Mike

00:30:23 this is one of Mike's

00:30:25 producers

00:30:26 he said hey man

00:30:27 I'm over Mike's house

00:30:27 and once he said 1.00

00:30:28 now fuck that man 1.00

00:30:29 he disrespected me 1.00

00:30:30 he said 1.00

00:30:31 no I'm gonna fuck that man 1.00

00:30:32 Michael Jackson said all that? 1.00

00:30:34 I said that

00:30:34 oh okay

00:30:35 and then my friend

00:30:37 went like this

00:30:38 he said really?

00:30:40 he asked for me to call you

00:30:41 I said I'll be right there

00:30:42 boom

00:30:42 I was right there

00:30:44 I don't know

00:30:45 what was he like? 0.63

00:30:48 was he just like a

00:30:49 He was very shy.

00:30:50 He was very humble.

00:30:51 He was at the end of his, you know, he was dealing with that bad stuff,

00:30:55 that child stuff.

00:30:55 He was dealing with that.

00:30:57 He was really, and only there were four people at the house,

00:31:00 no friends, and it was just him.

00:31:03 I got to know him.

00:31:04 Ask about Tupac.

00:31:05 But I'm doing fine.

00:31:11 I love it, man.

00:31:12 You're beautiful. 1.00

00:31:13 I thought you were going to be some mullet, redneck. 1.00

00:31:15 You're beautiful, man. 0.97

00:31:16 You're beautiful.

00:31:17 I'm doing all right.

00:31:18 I feel lucky to be here with you today, man.

00:31:20 Beautiful.

00:31:21 Do you think Michael was involved in that kind of stuff when you got to know him?

00:31:24 Did you ever feel that about him or no?

00:31:26 I had a different opinion about him once I got to know him.

00:31:28 Got it.

00:31:29 Totally different opinion.

00:31:30 Dude, I read somewhere.

00:31:31 Actually, I didn't read it.

00:31:32 I'm lying to you.

00:31:33 One of my friends told me that he had some girls with him,

00:31:36 and you was inquiring, or these are your girlfriends, 1.00

00:31:39 and he said, get your own bitches to you. 1.00

00:31:41 Oh, he did. 1.00

00:31:42 I'm going to tell you what happened.

00:31:44 Please do.

00:31:45 I went to a Michael Jackson concert with Dog King.

00:31:47 He would say, come to Cleveland and meet my babies.

00:31:51 He would go see Michael.

00:31:52 So he called me.

00:31:53 I wanted to see.

00:31:54 So we walk into the show.

00:31:55 It's the last song.

00:31:56 We walk into the arena.

00:31:58 We walk down the middle of the aisle.

00:32:00 He goes like this to Don King.

00:32:01 Don King puts his hand up.

00:32:03 I go like this, and he puts his hand down.

00:32:05 And I say to myself, I know Michael is this.

00:32:08 And I say, no, he don't know.

00:32:09 He's a big performer.

00:32:10 He can't be thinking about me.

00:32:12 Of course not me.

00:32:13 So I go in the back.

00:32:14 And I'm in the back.

00:32:15 This whole staff is just loving me, loving the back.

00:32:17 The band guy gave me a stick.

00:32:19 Everybody called over me.

00:32:21 Mike's at the corner chilling like this with the door open.

00:32:23 I guess he's waiting for a car.

00:32:24 He's going to jump in the car.

00:32:26 And everybody's over me.

00:32:27 I think let me go over there and say hi to Mike, you know,

00:32:29 because I want to go see.

00:32:31 It was a good night.

00:32:32 I go over there.

00:32:33 Before I say anything, he goes, where did I know you from?

00:32:36 This is the biggest moment in my life.

00:32:38 I just beat Mike and speak.

00:32:40 The whole world's talking about nothing but me.

00:32:42 And he looks at me, where did I know you from?

00:32:44 You look familiar.

00:32:45 Where did I know you from?

00:32:46 And I said, no way, Mr. Jackson.

00:32:48 I was just a fan. 1.00

00:32:49 I said, you motherfucker. 1.00

00:32:50 I said, that was a good one. 1.00

00:32:53 I hate him ever since. 0.94

00:32:56 I hated him every day.

00:32:58 If my friend didn't call me to come over to the house and said, Mike called you, I would have never, I would have been hating him now.

00:33:03 Wow.

00:33:05 I can't believe he said that.

00:33:06 I was just a little kid.

00:33:07 He said that to me.

00:33:08 You think he was joking?

00:33:10 Oh, he was dead serious.

00:33:11 Wow.

00:33:12 He was dead serious.

00:33:13 You think he was very competitive?

00:33:14 He was.

00:33:14 Mike is too competitive.

00:33:16 He's not friendly with nobody.

00:33:18 Yeah.

00:33:19 Especially not in the music business if you don't bend your knee.

00:33:21 You got to bend your knee for Mike. 0.99

00:33:23 Well, yeah, he didn't even, he wasn't friendly even with black folks. 1.00

00:33:25 He freaking ended up white. 0.98

00:33:28 You got to be on, you know what I'm saying? 0.99

00:33:30 You got to have an issue.

00:33:31 Hey, but listen, anybody's going that route now.

00:33:33 I've seen a bunch of athletes and singers go that route.

00:33:36 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:37 The black turn white route.

00:33:38 Yep, that's, hey, Red Rover, Red Rover, come on, you know.

00:33:44 Send them over, bro.

00:33:45 Passing is passing.

00:33:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:48 What if, like, and some of this is just, like, lore stuff.

00:33:51 What about Whitney Houston?

00:33:52 Did you ever get to meet her?

00:33:54 I knew Whitney very well.

00:33:56 No way.

00:33:56 Yeah, I knew Whitney very well.

00:33:58 She came to visit me in prison. 0.59

00:34:01 When I was in prison, she came to visit me.

00:34:02 She did?

00:34:03 Yeah, one of my good friends.

00:34:04 And when was that, when you were in prison in New York? 1.00

00:34:06 I know, motherfucker. 1.00

00:34:08 I'm up in Indianapolis. 1.00

00:34:09 It's cold.

00:34:10 I was just checking to see if you remember where you were in prison at.

00:34:13 Yeah, I have a lot of...

00:34:14 Listen, I had a lot of really interesting visitors.

00:34:20 A lot of really interesting people.

00:34:22 Whitney came to visit you?

00:34:22 Did she sing for you or anything like that, 0.99

00:34:24 or did she just come and spend time? 0.54

00:34:25 No, she just came. 0.75

00:34:25 She brought her family.

00:34:26 Her and her family came, and they hung out with me.

00:34:30 Who else came to visit you?

00:34:32 I don't know.

00:34:32 Quite a few people.

00:34:33 You got some names and names or something.

00:34:35 What about Michael Landon?

00:34:37 He was dead, man.

00:34:38 Was he dead?

00:34:39 He was dead then.

00:34:40 Also, he had cancer back then.

00:34:42 So, listen.

00:34:43 Patrick Swayze.

00:34:44 He was dead, too, I think.

00:34:46 What? 0.53

00:34:47 Why all the white people die in your stories?

00:34:49 I'm starting to notice this, Mike. 0.51

00:34:51 Hey, Florence Henderson came.

00:34:54 No way. 0.93

00:34:54 He came, yes.

00:34:55 But listen to this.

00:34:56 She came to visit me, but I'm locked in the hole.

00:34:59 I had to fight with one of the guards.

00:35:01 So I'm not going to come out.

00:35:02 If you come out the hole, you got to come out chained.

00:35:04 So I said, I'm not going to come out like that.

00:35:06 I said, forgive me.

00:35:07 I didn't want to do that.

00:35:08 Because you didn't want her to see you like that. 0.78

00:35:11 I didn't want to see me in shackles and my feet and all that crap. 0.98

00:35:14 It looks crazy. 0.93

00:35:15 Yeah.

00:35:16 And when they put you into the whole, so I know it was like 23 hours of darkness, right?

00:35:20 And then one hour of light?

00:35:22 Or vice versa, the other way?

00:35:23 No, they just leave the light on all night.

00:35:25 Oh, the light's on all night?

00:35:26 Light on all night.

00:35:27 Oh, that's good.

00:35:27 I mean, at least in case you get up or whatever. 0.99

00:35:29 It gives you a fucking headache. 0.99

00:35:31 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:35:31 You go 24 hours a day for like, what, 10 weeks?

00:35:35 Nuh-uh.

00:35:35 Yeah.

00:35:36 What starts to happen to somebody in there?

00:35:38 Like, is it anything helpful?

00:35:42 Yeah.

00:35:43 The peace, the solitude is healthy.

00:35:45 Very healthy, the solitude.

00:35:48 Because most of us, believe it or not,

00:35:51 are not able to be by ourselves for a long period of time.

00:35:54 You know, we haven't developed a relationship with ourselves

00:35:57 where we adore ourselves.

00:35:59 We can't stop being in our own presence.

00:36:03 And I guess that's the way to be,

00:36:05 constant happiness and love.

00:36:06 Even though we go to the badge

00:36:08 It makes that beautiful too

00:36:10 Yeah, I think

00:36:12 I don't know

00:36:15 In my life

00:36:15 I feel like in my life, my whole life

00:36:18 I was waiting for somebody to show up

00:36:20 Right? I don't even really exactly know

00:36:22 Who it was

00:36:23 But then recently I'm realizing that

00:36:25 I think I'm just waiting for me to show up

00:36:27 Does that make any sense to you?

00:36:29 I don't want to ask about this

00:36:31 You know what I mean

00:36:34 That's your narrative

00:36:35 how does that guy appear

00:36:36 how do you make that guy appear

00:36:39 right the first thing that I'm

00:36:40 that I'm learning for myself and some of this is

00:36:43 pretty recent is just like having some

00:36:44 integrity like you know if I say I'm

00:36:46 like because if I say I'm gonna do something and I don't

00:36:48 I hear myself do that right and so

00:36:51 after a while I don't even believe myself I think after

00:36:53 a while I couldn't even listen to myself because it's like

00:36:55 well how many times am I going to lead

00:36:57 myself on you know I don't know

00:36:59 if that's exactly true but I think that's the best

00:37:01 answer I have for that

00:37:02 it's always the power

00:37:04 power. It's always

00:37:06 the higher power. I'm from

00:37:08 the world

00:37:10 that you come from as well.

00:37:12 The recovery world.

00:37:14 And it's a battle. Some guys

00:37:16 are sober for 20 years and all of a sudden, boom!

00:37:18 They go to drugs and kill themselves.

00:37:20 It's a constant battle.

00:37:22 No one's ever a winner to the end of the day.

00:37:24 Until it's over and we're dead.

00:37:26 Then you won. If you ever do

00:37:28 any drugs and you beat the system that was 0.99

00:37:30 killing you, you're going to die, boom.

00:37:31 But sometimes these guys stop using drugs for 1.00

00:37:34 30 years and go back.

00:37:35 Yeah.

00:37:35 You know what I mean?

00:37:36 You just can't believe it.

00:37:38 So you're never safe.

00:37:39 Okay, you're never safe.

00:37:41 Yeah, nobody's going to get out of here alive.

00:37:42 I learned that in rehab.

00:37:44 Yeah.

00:37:44 It kind of makes it exciting, doesn't it?

00:37:46 It's kind of funny.

00:37:47 Nobody gets out of here alive.

00:37:49 As you get older,

00:37:50 one of the things that gets a little bit exciting

00:37:51 is dying because it's a new adventure.

00:37:55 I don't listen.

00:37:56 Does that make sense?

00:37:56 That makes too much sense.

00:38:00 Death is another part of life

00:38:02 we just never experienced yet.

00:38:04 You know, if life is good, how death could be bad?

00:38:06 Be honest.

00:38:07 If God loves us, how could death really be bad?

00:38:10 If we look at God the way we believe him to be, how could death be bad if he created it?

00:38:14 If we didn't think it was final, then how would we behave in this time that we're here?

00:38:19 Well, listen, God prepares us.

00:38:22 The universe prepares us to death.

00:38:24 You know, little by little, we lose our friends.

00:38:28 We lose people we care about.

00:38:30 We lose our hair.

00:38:31 We lose our teeth.

00:38:31 We lose our life.

00:38:32 it's nothing that happens

00:38:34 spontaneous

00:38:35 you know

00:38:35 it's meant to be

00:38:36 yeah we lose our ability 1.00

00:38:38 to be around black people 1.00

00:38:38 safely because I've said 0.97

00:38:40 the n-word 0.97

00:38:40 yeah

00:38:40 no you know what I mean

00:38:42 black people love you 1.00

00:38:43 you're a nigga lover 1.00

00:38:44 you're not a nigga hater 0.99

00:38:45 hey that's a good point bro

00:38:47 thanks for looking out for me

00:38:49 I hope they're not able

00:38:52 to cancel you on this show 1.00

00:38:54 you see we talked about niggas 0.98

00:38:55 niggas always got people

00:38:57 cancel 1.00

00:38:58 oh it never fails 1.00

00:39:00 a nigga will get you 1.00

00:39:01 The word nigga, the word. 1.00

00:39:05 Oh, it's great to see some equality at last.

00:39:08 Are you sometimes amazed, like when you look at your life,

00:39:11 how much grace God has had in your life?

00:39:14 I realize that if you don't believe in God, look at me.

00:39:18 Because I should not be right here talking to you.

00:39:23 No, you probably did not, man.

00:39:26 Listen, no, really, when I'm in my 30s,

00:39:28 I said, yes, God did a really dirty trick.

00:39:32 He allowed me to live to be 60. 1.00

00:39:35 God damn. 0.99

00:39:36 If I knew I was going to be 60, I would have played the game. 1.00

00:39:39 Yes, sir.

00:39:39 No, ma'am.

00:39:40 Yes, sir. 1.00

00:39:41 Fuck, you suck right there. 1.00

00:39:42 Fuck, yeah. 1.00

00:39:43 I went that route instead. 1.00

00:39:45 Fuck. 1.00

00:39:48 Imagine 60 years. 1.00

00:39:49 Yes, sir.

00:39:50 How you doing, man?

00:39:51 Oh, I'd walk right up to heaven like this, bro.

00:39:54 I'd walk right into heaven, man.

00:39:57 Sit at my table.

00:39:57 Yeah, I think there's something about when you feel like you're doing everything yourself.

00:40:02 Did you feel like that as a kid?

00:40:05 I'll figure this out.

00:40:06 I'll handle it.

00:40:07 Did you have that chip on your shoulder?

00:40:09 I had a mentor.

00:40:10 When I had my mentor, he taught me not to ever say anything negative about myself.

00:40:14 Really?

00:40:14 I want to say beautiful things about myself.

00:40:16 Customers taught you that?

00:40:17 Yes.

00:40:18 And what did he tell you exactly?

00:40:19 I want to say beautiful things about myself and never say anything negative about myself

00:40:23 because my subconscious don't know if I'm playing or not.

00:40:27 it's pretty isn't it wild how there's something no but i learned that at 12 years old i had to

00:40:34 learn that at 12 to be the champion at 20 you know if i learned it at 15 16 hey it probably

00:40:41 wouldn't have worked out there up in chapter 22 probably yeah everything worked out for the right

00:40:46 reason what was one of the hardest walks uh to the ring you ever had to make

00:40:53 all the walks are the same pretty much you know it becomes a routine

00:41:00 was there one that like you didn't want it or it's things had changed or you were like

00:41:08 i don't i don't know i've never been a fighter i always wanted it because um every time i got

00:41:12 in the ring when i lost my life changed and a good perspective for my family right you got you

00:41:18 providing for your family for sure that's all i know how to do when did you um when did you become

00:41:24 an adult excuse me oh that happened late in life that happened real late in life man i can't even

00:41:30 tell you man i wasn't probably who what 45 or something oh dude i freaking wet the bed i was 27 0.61

00:41:39 that's that's mental illness

00:41:44 yeah yeah it is but they don't say that they just call you mr drippy drop or whatever 0.98

00:41:54 They don't call you Mr. Pissy. 0.97

00:41:56 Pissy cool. 0.85

00:41:57 Pissy cool to the house. 0.92

00:41:59 They call you little yellow boy.

00:42:03 Hey, yellow boy.

00:42:07 But yeah, what do you think made you start to turn,

00:42:11 like, finally, like, I have to, I got to grow up,

00:42:13 or something happened, I'm becoming.

00:42:16 Because some guys took my pigeons and bullied me,

00:42:19 and that was the first time I fought back,

00:42:21 and it was like love that first fight.

00:42:23 I never stopped fighting ever since.

00:42:25 Some guy, they just...

00:42:26 He took it and he put my bird's head off.

00:42:30 What? 0.99

00:42:30 Yeah, he was a dirty, rotten kind of guy back there. 0.99

00:42:33 You remember him? 0.99

00:42:34 Yeah.

00:42:34 Who was he?

00:42:35 Gary Flowers. 1.00

00:42:36 Fuck him. 1.00

00:42:38 I'll never forget his name. 1.00

00:42:40 How could he do it? 0.79

00:42:41 You know, he was a young kid back then, rotten guy. 0.99

00:42:43 Being a bully, I was a little fat kid. 0.97

00:42:45 They bullied me all the time.

00:42:46 Yeah, but even if I saw a kid that was kind of like,

00:42:48 had some glandular issues or whatever,

00:42:50 I'm not going to break a bird's neck.

00:42:53 It's just, that's all about humiliating people.

00:42:57 Oh, it was like a humiliation thing. 0.96

00:42:58 That person was like.

00:42:58 Right, I'm going to make you feel this way.

00:43:00 Oh.

00:43:01 Did you ever get him back? 0.99

00:43:02 Oh, I beat the dog shit out of me. 0.99

00:43:04 Yeah. 1.00

00:43:05 I beat the dog shit out of me. 0.99

00:43:08 And that's the best thing I have, 0.99

00:43:10 because every day I fought,

00:43:11 I once fought three times a day.

00:43:12 I can't stop fighting.

00:43:13 I loved it so much.

00:43:15 And were you having trouble finding people to fight?

00:43:16 Oh, no.

00:43:17 They used to bring people for me to fight for money.

00:43:19 Oh, really?

00:43:20 Yeah.

00:43:21 And so who would get the money?

00:43:24 The guy would say, listen, if you win, you get this much.

00:43:27 If you lose, you get this much.

00:43:29 So no matter what, you made some money.

00:43:30 You made some money.

00:43:31 What's the first thing you kind of bought when you got a little money?

00:43:33 I don't know.

00:43:34 Some weed and some candy.

00:43:35 Yeah.

00:43:37 Weed and candy, bro.

00:43:40 That's what I'm talking about, bro.

00:43:42 I have the munchies ready for the munchies. 0.79

00:43:44 Now and ladies. 0.98

00:43:45 Can you ever eat now and ladies? 1.00

00:43:46 Dude, yeah, but they make your tea stick together. 0.97

00:43:48 I know, but it's good when you're high.

00:43:50 Yeah, you're right.

00:43:51 You're high, you don't mind. 0.93

00:43:52 You know, I know your teeth is out with in the gung. 0.98

00:43:55 You ever see that before? 0.95

00:43:56 Teeth is out in the now.

00:43:57 Oh, your teeth came right.

00:43:58 Oh, the shape of your teeth are in them? 1.00

00:44:00 Yeah, that shit was cool, bro. 1.00

00:44:02 I like that shit, man. 1.00

00:44:04 I really like that, man. 1.00

00:44:06 You ever had some black pussy? 1.00

00:44:12 What is... 1.00

00:44:12 Hey, I'm just...

00:44:18 I'm just asking, guys, between me and them,

00:44:21 please don't respond.

00:44:24 I mean, I've had, yeah, I mean,

00:44:26 during the holidays one time, I had a little.

00:44:29 That's true.

00:44:30 I'm not talking about no Jewish girl with a great tan.

00:44:33 I mean, a black girl.

00:44:35 Oh, I'm talking about some real, yeah, 1.00

00:44:38 some of that frickin', yeah.

00:44:41 I'm just saying, like, I'm just trying to think.

00:44:43 Yes, I had some.

00:44:44 I've had a little.

00:44:47 I've had a little.

00:44:48 I have had my

00:44:49 I have

00:44:51 Actually

00:44:51 Anything that you put

00:44:52 Halfway in

00:44:53 You put it all the way

00:44:54 In that

00:44:55 What is that little

00:44:56 You put it in a little

00:44:57 Or you put it in a lot

00:44:58 Or it's a little

00:45:00 When you put it in

00:45:01 It doesn't go in a lot

00:45:03 Oh

00:45:03 Like

00:45:04 It's more the hokey pokey

00:45:06 Okay

00:45:07 You go in

00:45:09 She comes out

00:45:10 Yeah

00:45:10 But I've had a little man

00:45:12 I've had a little

00:45:14 And I

00:45:14 Yeah I would

00:45:15 I would get some more

00:45:16 I would

00:45:16 yeah

00:45:18 I'd get some more

00:45:19 sometime

00:45:19 you know 0.96

00:45:21 what kind of black 1.00

00:45:21 women do you dream 1.00

00:45:22 about fucking 1.00

00:45:23 what's the body shape 1.00

00:45:24 name somebody's body shape 1.00

00:45:25 well some black women 1.00

00:45:26 you fuck them 1.00

00:45:27 and they fuck back 1.00

00:45:28 kind of you know 1.00

00:45:29 they got that 1.00

00:45:31 that vagina 1.00

00:45:32 kind of 1.00

00:45:32 it'll fuck you back 1.00

00:45:34 you know 1.00

00:45:34 it's almost like

00:45:34 when you

00:45:34 the last hundred years 1.00

00:45:36 ago that I fucked 1.00

00:45:37 a white girl 1.00

00:45:38 she did that too 1.00

00:45:39 so they do the same thing

00:45:40 but I almost try to

00:45:44 I was flirting 1.00

00:45:45 with this black lady 1.00

00:45:45 that worked at the airport

00:45:46 for a while, but they said move along eventually.

00:45:48 Did you get free flights?

00:45:52 No, I did not like that.

00:45:53 Did you get free flights?

00:45:54 Why didn't you mess with it then? 1.00

00:45:55 I'm not going to date no girl at the airport

00:45:57 and I'm not getting free flights, man.

00:45:59 Yeah, you're right.

00:46:00 You're right.

00:46:01 I don't know.

00:46:02 Look, man, maybe you'll set me up 0.99

00:46:03 with a good gal that you know. 1.00

00:46:04 I don't know any good girls. 1.00

00:46:07 I know good time.

00:46:08 I know being good girls, I give you good time. 0.57

00:46:11 Did you ever have like a... 1.00

00:46:12 Because Hollywood, people steal people's spouse 0.70

00:46:15 or girlfriends, boyfriends.

00:46:16 Did you ever have somebody

00:46:17 steal a girlfriend of yours here?

00:46:19 I'm sure they did,

00:46:20 but I just don't know about it.

00:46:21 You didn't?

00:46:22 Yeah.

00:46:23 I feel bad, actually,

00:46:24 because I was saying that question,

00:46:25 but I knew another question

00:46:26 I was going to ask.

00:46:27 Ask the best.

00:46:28 Somebody said that Brad Pitt

00:46:29 stole a girlfriend of yours one time.

00:46:30 No.

00:46:31 Oh, that's an interesting story.

00:46:32 Yeah.

00:46:33 All right.

00:46:35 No, it didn't steal it from me, 1.00

00:46:37 but when my wife was going to do a divorce, 0.63

00:46:40 when I get back, 0.96

00:46:41 but we were still fucking, right? 0.90

00:46:43 Okay. 0.99

00:46:43 We were always fucking every night. 0.99

00:46:45 we were still fucking 0.99

00:46:46 then we'd fight 0.99

00:46:46 in the paper 0.99

00:46:47 then we're fucking like 0.98

00:46:48 but one day 0.97

00:46:49 I went over

00:46:51 to her house 1.00

00:46:52 to fuck 1.00

00:46:52 because she wasn't home 1.00

00:46:53 and then

00:46:54 driving up the road

00:46:56 was the BMW

00:46:57 that I bought her

00:46:58 and she had some

00:46:59 I thought it was

00:46:59 one of her friends

00:47:01 from head of the class

00:47:02 but it wasn't

00:47:03 one of her friends 1.00

00:47:03 it was some nigga 1.00

00:47:04 Brad Pitt 1.00

00:47:06 trying to get some head

00:47:07 that's 0.77

00:47:07 Nuh-uh

00:47:07 Yeah so 0.97

00:47:08 That honk 0.98

00:47:09 he was with her? 1.00

00:47:10 Yeah 1.00

00:47:11 White mother 1.00

00:47:13 Damn 1.00

00:47:14 Damn, bruh, that honky was trying to slide, huh? 1.00

00:47:21 He's a dirty dog. 1.00

00:47:24 I love you. 1.00

00:47:25 The fact that we got to call Brad Pitt a honky is fucking hilarious, bro. 0.96

00:47:30 He's a beautiful brother. 0.97

00:47:32 But you caught him in the driveway?

00:47:33 Yeah, he was beautiful.

00:47:34 I was just...

00:47:35 Did you punk him a little?

00:47:37 No.

00:47:39 I guess he is Brad Pitt.

00:47:40 At least if your girl's going to be with somebody,

00:47:43 If it's Brad Pitt, that's okay.

00:47:47 Yeah, I guess you're right.

00:47:48 You know what I'm saying?

00:47:49 But he wasn't Brad Pitt yet.

00:47:51 Oh, he wasn't Brad Pitt yet? 0.99

00:47:52 No, I didn't know what the fuck he was. 0.99

00:47:53 He was just Brad? 0.99

00:47:56 Yeah. 0.97

00:47:58 And she was driving him.

00:47:59 He didn't have a car. 1.00

00:48:00 Oh, that's some Brad shit. 0.99

00:48:05 Brad never got a car, bro. 0.99

00:48:08 Name seven Bradts that have cars, bro. 1.00

00:48:10 None of them bastards. 1.00

00:48:11 Yeah. 1.00

00:48:13 Oh.

00:48:15 Have you been good at being in love, you think, over your life?

00:48:18 I've gotten so much trouble being in love in my life.

00:48:22 And love is so many entities, you know what I mean?

00:48:27 Love has been, you've gotten in so much trouble?

00:48:30 No, I don't have trouble with love.

00:48:32 I have trouble with me.

00:48:34 Love has nothing to do with it.

00:48:35 Love has trouble with you?

00:48:36 No, it's me with the trouble.

00:48:38 Love has no beef with me.

00:48:40 Love's supposed to do what it does.

00:48:42 I'm not supposed to do what I do, you know, and that's what we do.

00:48:52 You think you're hard to love or not?

00:48:54 Huh?

00:48:54 You think you're hard to love?

00:48:58 I think that I'm a quiet taste.

00:49:00 Yeah.

00:49:03 I'm humble enough to know that I could be replaced,

00:49:06 but I'm confident to know that nobody in the world is like me.

00:49:08 Mm.

00:49:12 That's true, man.

00:49:14 What's up, guys, or ladies, or fellas?

00:49:17 I don't even know.

00:49:18 Who knows what?

00:49:19 You can't even tell who's got a wiener on them these days, you know? 1.00

00:49:23 You'll take a chick's bra off, and she's got damn two wieners on her chest. 1.00

00:49:26 Who knows what's going on? 1.00

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00:53:19 details. Tekovas. Point your toes west. Did it ever become like being Mike Tyson and being Iron

00:53:29 Mike Tyson and being like this, when you become bigger than you, how did that affect you? Like

00:53:37 as a person do you feel like?

00:53:40 I know the truth that I'm never big,

00:53:42 I don't never,

00:53:43 that's just some form of imagination

00:53:48 really being some big star.

00:53:50 I know who I am.

00:53:51 I know what I've accomplished in life,

00:53:54 the good, the bad, you know,

00:53:56 but there's not many people, you know,

00:53:58 listen, I walk with poverty

00:54:00 and I sit with presence, you know.

00:54:02 I've just, it's not too many things

00:54:04 I haven't done in my life, you know.

00:54:06 So I just take my life day by day.

00:54:10 I don't make too many plans, you know.

00:54:14 I met your wife now, Kiki.

00:54:17 Yeah, very interesting person, huh? 0.99

00:54:20 I'm going to say she's a beautiful, nice lady. 1.00

00:54:22 You can say she's a very interesting person.

00:54:24 She is very interesting, I'm sure.

00:54:26 I don't know her well.

00:54:26 She has very kind eyes, and she seems like she really cares about you.

00:54:32 So those are things that I noticed.

00:54:33 And you guys have some beautiful children.

00:54:34 and I saw some, one of them I think is here, maybe two, Michael, Miguel, Miguel, Lo Siento,

00:54:45 and Milan, and Milan, yeah, Kiki seems to just have like, she wants to make sure that you're

00:54:52 okay, right, is there like, what's it like now with her, with this relationship, what's this 0.83

00:54:57 marriage like i don't know it's too perfect we need a little bullshit in that other thing 0.98

00:55:06 yeah we're cool we have a great connection you know um we bullshit every now and then 0.96

00:55:14 what's something you really love about her i just love her being a mother she's an awesome

00:55:18 mother awesome wife and the all-around beautiful person i really hit the jackpot with this monkey

00:55:24 She's a little precious. 1.00

00:55:26 Where did you meet Kiki at?

00:55:28 I knew her since she was like 19, 18.

00:55:31 Yeah. 0.97

00:55:32 Is she like a strong woman in the household? 0.99

00:55:33 Like, what's that kind of energy like? 0.91

00:55:36 Like, does she make you get up early or anything?

00:55:38 No, that's the whole thing.

00:55:39 I don't have to move.

00:55:40 What's that? 1.00

00:55:41 My wife, I don't have to move. 0.94

00:55:43 Yeah? 0.98

00:55:44 Yeah, I don't have to move.

00:55:45 She takes care of me, everything. 1.00

00:55:47 I got the real wife that, you know, cooks for me, 1.00

00:55:50 bring my food. 1.00

00:55:50 If I'm tired, she'll feed me. 0.98

00:55:53 You got a queen, huh?

00:55:55 That's nice. 1.00

00:55:58 She's also

00:55:59 my pet

00:56:01 and she's also my tiger, too.

00:56:03 She's my defender.

00:56:06 So she has that

00:56:07 in her, too.

00:56:09 Hmm.

00:56:12 No, you got to have somebody

00:56:13 that has that. Oh, you have to.

00:56:16 There's nobody that has more fury 1.00

00:56:17 than a woman. And that's just in general. 1.00

00:56:20 There's nobody that fights 1.00

00:56:21 more fierce food than a woman. 1.00

00:56:23 Oh, dude, they can make a child. 1.00

00:56:25 If you and I had laid on our back 0.98

00:56:26 for nine months, 1.00

00:56:27 we couldn't make shit. 0.99

00:56:28 No, no. 1.00

00:56:30 Listen, they could bleed nine months

00:56:33 and leave.

00:56:33 We get a little cut on our hands.

00:56:34 We get affection and die.

00:56:36 You know? 1.00

00:56:37 Women are a special breed. 1.00

00:56:39 Yeah, well, they're wizards. 1.00

00:56:40 They're damn wizards, I'll say that. 0.99

00:56:42 But they are also a great breed. 1.00

00:56:43 No, that's the biggest gift 0.93

00:56:46 God could ever give us is a woman. 1.00

00:56:48 Yeah.

00:56:48 The most precious gift God

00:56:50 could ever give us is a woman.

00:56:51 Yeah, that's the truth 1.00

00:56:54 I agree

00:56:56 I agree, man

00:56:58 Hey, this is our show

00:57:01 Yeah

00:57:02 You heard the man

00:57:04 I think, like, fathering and fame

00:57:07 would seem like it's really hard for me

00:57:09 It's middle, how about your life?

00:57:11 I don't have any children yet

00:57:12 Oh, God bless you, man

00:57:14 God bless you, because this doesn't work well

00:57:17 with children

00:57:18 Well, I don't want things that I've said or done to influence

00:57:21 my children's life

00:57:22 for people to look at them

00:57:23 a certain way

00:57:23 or have certain expectations

00:57:24 out of them.

00:57:25 But I don't fear that that much.

00:57:26 But your life has been

00:57:27 at an insane amount of that.

00:57:30 Like, what was that?

00:57:31 Did it make it hard for you?

00:57:33 Like, what was it like

00:57:33 fathering and having your life?

00:57:36 Like, and the fame?

00:57:37 I don't know.

00:57:38 My kids have a great life.

00:57:40 And if they ever started

00:57:41 complaining,

00:57:42 they should think about,

00:57:43 they should have had my father.

00:57:45 Then they would have

00:57:45 a right to complain.

00:57:46 They do not have

00:57:47 a right to complain.

00:57:48 My kids go to the best school

00:57:50 the world can offer.

00:57:51 They have the best opportunities to work, offer.

00:57:55 It's up to them to take advantage of it.

00:58:01 Where was your father from?

00:58:03 North Carolina.

00:58:04 Oh, dude, no way.

00:58:05 I'm going to freaking Wilmington this weekend.

00:58:07 Charlotte. 0.99

00:58:07 He's from Charlotte.

00:58:08 Oh, Charlotte?

00:58:09 Charlotte's okay.

00:58:10 I'm fine.

00:58:11 I've never been here.

00:58:12 You haven't?

00:58:13 I'm fine with it.

00:58:16 I will tell you this story.

00:58:17 So one time I was in Charlotte, right?

00:58:18 And I hadn't been there before.

00:58:20 My friend and I were sitting on a patio.

00:58:21 We were just getting something to eat. 0.72

00:58:23 And I saw somebody pushing a baby carriage out there, right? 0.70

00:58:26 And they were wearing like a couple of different like shawls or like rugs,

00:58:31 almost like a bunch of like tapestries and stuff over them and over the carriage.

00:58:36 And I thought it was like a homeless guy, almost like a French homeless guy, right?

00:58:40 Because he's French.

00:58:42 Well, just he was a very color.

00:58:43 It looked like, dude, it was French in North Carolina.

00:58:46 Well, just because of the elegance of the shawls and stuff, they seem very... 0.94

00:58:52 French-ish. 0.78

00:58:53 Very French-ish. 0.98

00:58:54 And, yeah, French-ish.

00:58:57 It was freaking Cam Newton pushing his newborn down the street.

00:59:01 Are you serious?

00:59:02 I swear, that is a true story.

00:59:05 And that's the truth.

00:59:06 It was him, dude. 0.97

00:59:08 I keep looking, I'm like, damn, they've got the most beautiful, elegant homeless around here. 0.97

00:59:12 They really vibing. 0.98

00:59:13 and then I'm like

00:59:16 I saw a few

00:59:16 would run up

00:59:17 and get photos

00:59:17 and it was him

00:59:18 and he just had

00:59:18 a newborn child

00:59:19 and he was taking it

00:59:21 for a little

00:59:21 afternoon stroll

00:59:23 out there

00:59:23 by the McCormick

00:59:25 and Schmicks

00:59:25 out there

00:59:26 you have anybody

00:59:26 you're in love with?

00:59:28 do you have anybody

00:59:28 I'm in love with?

00:59:29 yeah

00:59:29 uh

00:59:30 I mean

00:59:32 I'm crazy

00:59:33 it's crazy

00:59:34 nobody off the top

00:59:38 of my head

00:59:39 you're not with

00:59:40 a woman right now

00:59:41 no I'm not with

00:59:41 a woman right now

00:59:42 no you're not

00:59:43 kicking it with no one right now?

00:59:44 I mean, you know what I'm saying.

00:59:47 I'm saying that, yeah.

00:59:49 How old are you?

00:59:50 I'm 46, dude.

00:59:51 I'm an adult. 1.00

00:59:52 You got the fucking hair. 1.00

00:59:54 You got that fucking hair. 1.00

00:59:55 As long as you got that hair, 1.00

00:59:56 you got the advantage of that pussy. 1.00

00:59:59 What's the heck, oh, God? 1.00

01:00:01 That hair is serious pussy advantage right there. 1.00

01:00:05 The hair. 1.00

01:00:06 If you'd had hair,

01:00:08 you think you'd have been even more handsome?

01:00:11 If I had hair

01:00:13 I wouldn't be married

01:00:13 I'd be in lawsuits 0.99

01:00:14 And all that shit 1.00

01:00:16 You'd be in lawsuits 1.00

01:00:19 That's crazy bro 0.75

01:00:22 Hair is power

01:00:24 That's why 0.95

01:00:24 When they did that

01:00:25 About Samson

01:00:26 Because really

01:00:27 Hair is power 0.63

01:00:28 Well that's what

01:00:28 Even when they used

01:00:29 To scout people

01:00:29 And stuff

01:00:30 And take their hair

01:00:30 They was taking

01:00:31 You know

01:00:31 They were taking

01:00:32 Power

01:00:32 That's why

01:00:33 I grew my hair

01:00:34 A lot

01:00:34 People think

01:00:34 The hair represents power

01:00:35 That's why they always

01:00:36 Trying to 0.99

01:00:36 Cut your hair

01:00:37 You know

01:00:37 Like a animal

01:00:38 Cut your hair

01:00:39 Cut your hair 1.00

01:00:39 Keep your fucking hair 1.00

01:00:41 Yeah, bitch, I want to be an animal. 1.00

01:00:42 Yeah, keep your fucking hair. 1.00

01:00:43 Because once you lose your hair, you go, 1.00

01:00:45 oh, God, I wish you had it back.

01:00:47 Some guys say, oh, I was in the way. 1.00

01:00:48 No, I wasn't in the way, motherfucker. 1.00

01:00:50 You wish you had your hair back. 1.00

01:00:51 The only thing that was in the way of 1.00

01:00:52 was in the way of you being a little bitch. 1.00

01:00:54 That's the only thing you want, huh? 1.00

01:00:55 Well, let that hair grow. 1.00

01:00:57 Don't care how much you grow. 1.00

01:00:58 Let it grow. 0.98

01:00:58 Let the people say, oh, you're an animal. 0.82

01:01:01 You can't get a job.

01:01:02 You can get a job with a lot of hair now.

01:01:04 Yeah, you can get a job at Cricket Tarky.

01:01:05 You can get a job as a mechanics assistant.

01:01:06 Anything, anything.

01:01:07 that makes more money

01:01:09 than the average person

01:01:10 by far

01:01:10 yeah

01:01:12 bro you could just

01:01:13 brush your hair online

01:01:14 and dudes will pay

01:01:15 to watch you do it

01:01:16 yo listen

01:01:18 that online thing

01:01:20 it's either

01:01:21 the best thing 0.69

01:01:22 a pedophile

01:01:23 could ever dream of 0.91

01:01:24 or else it's the biggest

01:01:26 biggest hit in the world

01:01:27 one of the other

01:01:28 it's the worst bro

01:01:30 do you think

01:01:31 have you seen

01:01:31 times change bro

01:01:32 same

01:01:33 but like

01:01:34 how bad

01:01:35 like things are

01:01:35 not bad

01:01:36 but things just

01:01:36 gotten so much different it's gotten away from them everything became sexual lately and everybody's

01:01:44 worried about who's sleeping with who everybody's worried about who genders who and who looks like

01:01:50 this and it's all about that now yes uh there used to be so much more i think i don't know

01:01:56 when you couldn't record everything the moment was so great but because then also if i needed

01:02:00 to know a story the only way i could get it was from you or from somebody that told it well yes

01:02:05 And so that person had like, I don't know, they had an ambiance about him.

01:02:09 There might be a dude in town, all he did was tell one good story or no good.

01:02:12 That's happened since the beginning of life.

01:02:14 Yeah.

01:02:15 And now it's suddenly different.

01:02:16 Yeah. 1.00

01:02:17 And now we have people out here losing their minds and shit. 1.00

01:02:20 Killing themselves, hurting themselves. 1.00

01:02:21 Killing themselves, Mike. 0.99

01:02:23 Dude, nobody killed themselves.

01:02:24 When I was a kid, nobody was killing themselves.

01:02:26 If you were angry or depressed, you'd just listen to heavy metal and walk around town.

01:02:30 Remember that?

01:02:32 Yes.

01:02:33 Oh, man.

01:02:33 You know, it's just interesting that people are doing that now.

01:02:37 We're sick, though.

01:02:38 There's something poisoning us.

01:02:41 Do you agree with that?

01:02:42 A hundred percent.

01:02:43 I know the government know what it is.

01:02:46 Yeah, they ain't telling.

01:02:48 You know, because death is profitable. 0.99

01:02:51 You know, people cashing out your insurance and all that shit. 1.00

01:02:54 Death is very profitable. 1.00

01:02:55 Even at the morgue. 0.98

01:02:56 Dude, my buddy freaking died. 0.56

01:02:58 They put new shoes on him, charged his family 300 bucks. 1.00

01:03:01 I'm like, bitch, he's wearing them for 50 minutes. 0.99

01:03:05 Just get a rental. 0.99

01:03:07 And they got a whole fresh pair.

01:03:10 That's crazy, man.

01:03:11 But I agree, there's something the government knows, man.

01:03:13 So now people are going to have to rise up.

01:03:15 Something's going to have to happen.

01:03:16 Do you believe that people have that in us still?

01:03:18 I believe this.

01:03:20 I believe that some people, even the elite people,

01:03:23 they have money and have the resources to live longer, healthier.

01:03:29 You know?

01:03:29 Imagine being 90

01:03:32 And living healthy

01:03:32 You can still run 1.00

01:03:33 You can still fuck 1.00

01:03:34 You can still do things 1.00

01:03:36 For your family

01:03:37 Jump

01:03:37 Fall over

01:03:38 Exactly

01:03:38 No serious

01:03:39 Yeah I feel you

01:03:40 You think that's possible

01:03:42 For some people right now

01:03:43 And they're hiding

01:03:43 Right now

01:03:43 Absolutely right

01:03:44 Absolutely 1.00

01:03:45 Because the bullshit 1.00

01:03:47 That I use now 1.00

01:03:48 All this

01:03:49 Meditides 1.00

01:03:50 And all this shit 1.00

01:03:51 And they're going to 1.00

01:03:52 Dick can't

01:03:52 It's just crazy

01:03:54 Yeah

01:03:54 I feel young

01:03:55 That's all

01:03:55 That's why I be going

01:03:56 Fighting again

01:03:57 I feel good

01:03:58 next thing they're gonna

01:04:00 give you something

01:04:01 they kind of got now

01:04:02 that thing you sniff

01:04:03 it makes you smarter

01:04:04 what is it

01:04:05 I don't know what

01:04:06 no listen

01:04:08 you're laughing now

01:04:09 but when

01:04:09 don't laugh

01:04:10 when it comes out

01:04:11 you can say

01:04:11 Mike was talking about that 1.00

01:04:13 you'll be hitting that shit 1.00

01:04:14 in the neck 1.00

01:04:14 I don't know

01:04:15 if you get too smart 1.00

01:04:16 you might have a fucking 1.00

01:04:17 brain collapse 1.00

01:04:18 right

01:04:18 an aneurysm 0.99

01:04:21 or some shit 0.97

01:04:22 I don't wanna 1.00

01:04:22 there's a lot of shit 0.99

01:04:23 I don't wanna know 1.00

01:04:24 dude the smarter I get

01:04:26 I feel like the more

01:04:27 I hurt it bro

01:04:28 No, but listen, they got stuff.

01:04:30 Check this out.

01:04:32 Imagine somebody say, I have something in this needle

01:04:34 that'll make you last 30 more years, strong. 1.00

01:04:39 It'll make your dick stay hard for 24 hours 1.00

01:04:42 or something like that. 0.99

01:04:43 That's what people are working at.

01:04:45 Whatever our biggest kinks are, 0.95

01:04:50 it'll be sex, it'll be alcohol.

01:04:51 They give you a shot.

01:04:52 There's no more alcohol in your life.

01:04:54 No more drugs in your life.

01:04:55 it's all about the

01:04:56 it's going to be all about

01:04:57 the needles soon

01:04:58 and pills

01:04:59 the needles and pills

01:05:01 did you

01:05:02 were you ever a needle user

01:05:03 or not

01:05:04 well

01:05:05 I used a lot of needles

01:05:06 yes I have

01:05:07 yeah I used a lot of needles

01:05:09 because that's a different barrier

01:05:10 when you go into drug use

01:05:11 like I've used a lot of stuff

01:05:12 I've never used no needles

01:05:13 I've used like steroids

01:05:14 but I've never used

01:05:15 like

01:05:16 you know

01:05:17 shooting up

01:05:18 like

01:05:19 whatever it's called

01:05:20 heroin

01:05:21 heroin yeah

01:05:24 yeah

01:05:24 I never used it

01:05:25 Now, I wish I would have smoked crack.

01:05:27 I will say that.

01:05:28 Stay away from crack.

01:05:30 Really?

01:05:30 You don't normally come back.

01:05:32 Really?

01:05:33 Why don't you go crack?

01:05:34 You don't come back.

01:05:36 What was it?

01:05:37 Did you ever get to smoke it?

01:05:38 I did once.

01:05:40 Oh, no. 0.98

01:05:41 This is going to be fucking crazy. 0.98

01:05:42 I got to tell you this. 0.89

01:05:44 Please do.

01:05:44 So one day, I do my monthly checkup, but I'm still getting high.

01:05:49 I'm going to get my checkup with my probation officer.

01:05:52 and he gets my probation officer.

01:05:55 He gets my blood test.

01:05:57 I'm not even thinking.

01:05:58 And he comes back.

01:05:59 I come back.

01:06:00 He said,

01:06:02 we just test you for crack,

01:06:05 but I could tell her,

01:06:07 what they call him? 0.63

01:06:09 What do you call a crackhead?

01:06:11 Oh, 0.53

01:06:11 a crack,

01:06:14 a what?

01:06:16 Tweaker?

01:06:17 He tweaker.

01:06:17 He said, yeah,

01:06:18 but I had it in me.

01:06:21 But he said,

01:06:21 yeah, I know a tweaker.

01:06:22 You're not a tweaker.

01:06:23 That's a forced test. 1.00

01:06:24 I said, fuck. 1.00

01:06:26 He knew about sight? 1.00

01:06:27 Yeah, he did.

01:06:27 I could tell a tweaker.

01:06:28 He said, you're not a tweaker.

01:06:29 Because it was by accident.

01:06:31 I didn't know it was a crash.

01:06:32 Oh, it was just in there.

01:06:33 Yeah, I took it without the guy telling me.

01:06:36 I didn't know.

01:06:37 And the cop said that to me.

01:06:38 He said, yeah, you got a forced test,

01:06:39 but I could tell a tweaker.

01:06:40 You're not a tweaker.

01:06:41 Amen.

01:06:41 I'm glad. 0.85

01:06:42 Thank you for telling me that word tweaker.

01:06:44 Thank you for the tweaker guy.

01:06:45 That's good stuff. 1.00

01:06:46 And I said, fuck. 1.00

01:06:47 That guy gave me that shit. 1.00

01:06:49 That's the thing. 1.00

01:06:50 you don't know what you were getting.

01:06:51 Exactly.

01:06:52 Imagine if I was fentanyl, 1.00

01:06:53 I'd be dead as a motherfucker. 1.00

01:06:55 You got out before fentanyl, 1.00

01:06:56 thank God, huh?

01:06:57 My wife would tell you, right?

01:06:59 It came on the news

01:06:59 that Mike died

01:07:00 from a drug overdose

01:07:02 at his party.

01:07:04 And my wife thought

01:07:04 it was on the news.

01:07:06 And the only thing,

01:07:06 I come in the house

01:07:07 a couple hours later, 1.00

01:07:08 my wife screamed at me, 1.00

01:07:09 cursed at me, 1.00

01:07:10 oh, fuck, I'm high. 1.00

01:07:12 I just left the house 1.00

01:07:13 and kept running.

01:07:14 It was a false story?

01:07:15 Yeah, it was on the news, too.

01:07:17 My wife saw me and hit me.

01:07:18 I got to get out of the house.

01:07:19 I left. 1.00

01:07:20 Oh, she was pissed

01:07:23 even if he was alive?

01:07:24 She was pissed

01:07:25 I was alive,

01:07:26 her and her mother. 1.00

01:07:26 Damn, bro. 1.00

01:07:27 Pissed I was alive. 1.00

01:07:29 And her mother

01:07:30 was pissed too?

01:07:31 Yeah,

01:07:32 they're crying

01:07:33 every day.

01:07:34 They think I'm dead.

01:07:35 They checking morgan 1.00

01:07:36 and shit 1.00

01:07:37 and hospitals 0.99

01:07:38 and I walked

01:07:40 through the door

01:07:40 high.

01:07:41 I'm coked up

01:07:42 high and drunk.

01:07:45 I just left the house 1.00

01:07:46 and fucked this shit. 1.00

01:07:47 These motherfuckers, they can't, they don't, yeah, they don't love me. 1.00

01:07:53 Dude, yeah, you ever have those days where you stayed up multiple days from doing cocaine or not? 1.00

01:07:58 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99

01:08:01 So listen, I'm, oh, I'm going to tell you this bullshit story. 1.00

01:08:05 So I can't get any sleep, so I'm calling the person, my nose hurt like a motherfucker, right? 0.99

01:08:11 It's, ah, my nose, I'm going, ah. 0.97

01:08:13 And so I'm calling the person, and I'm saying my nose is hurt. 0.94

01:08:17 I'm fucking, I can't sleep. 0.96

01:08:18 I've been up for four days. 0.99

01:08:19 My nose is hurting.

01:08:20 I got scars on my nose.

01:08:22 She said, your nose hurt?

01:08:23 She said, you got the coke?

01:08:24 I said, yeah.

01:08:25 She said, hit, hit.

01:08:26 I took a hit.

01:08:27 I said, wow, that feels better.

01:08:30 I never knew I had the coke all the time.

01:08:32 I just took a hit.

01:08:34 I numbed it up because it got,

01:08:35 it wasn't numb anymore.

01:08:36 It started bleeding.

01:08:37 It got sore.

01:08:38 I had to take another hit to numb it up.

01:08:40 Oh.

01:08:42 Those nights are the worst, huh?

01:08:43 Oh, man.

01:08:46 The worst, bro.

01:08:47 Did you ever have to sneak into a hospital

01:08:49 or did you have a private doctor?

01:08:51 Yeah, this is true.

01:08:53 Listen, I go to my doctor, right?

01:08:57 Your doctor, hold on.

01:08:59 Let's get a round of applause for Mike's doctor, bro.

01:09:05 I go to my doctor and I go back and I said,

01:09:08 I'm going to lay the spill on my doctor

01:09:10 and I'm going to quit cocaine right now.

01:09:13 And he's checking me, right?

01:09:14 giving me, you know, checking out.

01:09:18 And he said, how you doing?

01:09:19 I said, your doctor, you know, I'm feeling bad.

01:09:21 I need to quit.

01:09:22 And he said, what?

01:09:23 I said, I need to quit coke.

01:09:24 He said, really?

01:09:26 You taking a lot of laser?

01:09:27 I said, yeah.

01:09:27 He said, you have some on you?

01:09:28 I said, yeah.

01:09:29 Can I have some? 1.00

01:09:30 I said, fuck! 1.00

01:09:31 The doctor, my brother, this is on my children's lights. 1.00

01:09:34 And I'm like, fuck! 1.00

01:09:36 I'm trying to get help. 1.00

01:09:38 I'm talking to the doctor about I got a problem.

01:09:40 He said, you have some on you now?

01:09:41 He said, can I have some?

01:09:42 And I took it.

01:09:43 Was that Blue Cross Blue Shield?

01:09:45 Who was that?

01:09:47 No, I go to rehab now.

01:09:49 They put me in rehab.

01:09:51 And this is what I do.

01:09:52 The guy, the rehab staffer, comes up here

01:09:55 and he tells me all the rules.

01:09:57 And then I try to be a good guy.

01:09:58 Give him my Coke.

01:09:59 The last bit of Coke.

01:10:00 You know, I was doing Coke before I came.

01:10:02 You know, normally before you go rehab,

01:10:03 you get really hot.

01:10:04 Yeah.

01:10:05 So I gave him the Coke.

01:10:06 I really wanted to get sober.

01:10:07 I gave him the Coke, my last Coke.

01:10:09 I said, here, I got some Coke.

01:10:10 He said, oh, you have some.

01:10:11 Then he went.

01:10:12 And the next time I saw him,

01:10:13 he started acting funny.

01:10:15 I said,

01:10:16 I didn't think it better

01:10:17 I took my coke

01:10:18 because I was some good coke.

01:10:19 I wanted to be a good person

01:10:21 and give it up. 1.00

01:10:22 The motherfucker took my coke. 1.00

01:10:24 So I said, 1.00

01:10:25 hey, man, 1.00

01:10:25 you took my fucking coke. 1.00

01:10:26 You're going to start 1.00

01:10:27 letting me have girls come over.

01:10:28 He said, 1.00

01:10:28 let me have girls come over. 1.00

01:10:29 After rehab? 1.00

01:10:31 Yeah.

01:10:31 What?

01:10:33 My right hand on my children's life, man.

01:10:35 Oh.

01:10:35 You listen, 0.99

01:10:36 I can't make shit like this up. 0.99

01:10:38 The rehab guy said, 0.99

01:10:39 oh, you got coke?

01:10:40 And I said,

01:10:41 and I give it up.

01:10:41 I said, no, I don't want to get hired with her.

01:10:43 I'm going to try to live clean. 1.00

01:10:44 This nigga go away for a free... 1.00

01:10:45 He comes back acting weird. 1.00

01:10:47 I said, I know this motherfucker didn't take my Coke. 1.00

01:10:51 I got mad because I should have kept that shit then. 1.00

01:10:53 Type shit. 1.00

01:10:54 Oh, man, I got so fucking mad. 1.00

01:10:56 Dude, I'll tell you this freaking story. 0.98

01:10:58 So one time my friend, we're getting out of an Uber. 0.93

01:11:01 He dropped some Coke, right?

01:11:03 And I didn't know he did Coke.

01:11:05 And I didn't know I did Coke, right?

01:11:08 I've been there.

01:11:09 Yeah.

01:11:09 so i pick his coke up i'd never seen it before i just saw this little bag in it i've registered

01:11:15 pretty quick this is probably cocaine right and so we go inside we're staying at my buddy kevin's

01:11:21 house um we go inside and he starts saying hey will you help me look for something but he won't

01:11:26 he won't tell me what it is because he doesn't want me knowing that he doesn't want to give me

01:11:32 that's what it is yeah yeah that's what it is bro so i keep sneaking off and doing the coke

01:11:37 because we're looking really hard, right?

01:11:40 Bro, after like two hours, he goes to sleep. 0.99

01:11:43 I'm still looking for the shit and doing it, bro. 0.99

01:11:48 And I forgot what I was even looking for, 0.99

01:11:50 but I kept looking, bro,

01:11:51 because that's who I am.

01:11:53 I'm committed. 1.00

01:11:55 I'm that motherfucker that will ride with you, Mike. 1.00

01:11:57 I got to tell you this story about cocaine, okay? 1.00

01:12:00 Okay.

01:12:01 I'm in, first I'm in Jamaica, right?

01:12:05 And I leave Jamaica.

01:12:06 I'm hanging out with Jamaica

01:12:08 I'm hanging out there 0.87

01:12:08 And I go to Cuba for

01:12:10 You know, it's very close

01:12:11 An hour, half an hour

01:12:12 Did you get to meet Fidel in Cuba or not?

01:12:14 No, interesting though

01:12:15 Check this out

01:12:16 So I'm in Cuba, right?

01:12:18 I'm hanging out

01:12:19 And so guy meets me

01:12:21 Hey, you're Mike Tyson, right?

01:12:23 Yeah

01:12:23 Hey, Mike Tyson, what's wrong?

01:12:25 Is everything okay?

01:12:26 I said, yeah, this is great

01:12:27 You have money?

01:12:27 I have a lot of money, yeah 1.00

01:12:28 You need a girl 1.00

01:12:29 I said, this is a possibility

01:12:31 Yes, I do 1.00

01:12:32 You're a fucking genius, right? 1.00

01:12:36 So he takes me, you know, listen, 1.00

01:12:38 but you guys, he takes me around this,

01:12:40 it's nothing but bricks and rocks and bandits. 0.98

01:12:43 It looks like a bomb at the business, disgusting. 0.88

01:12:45 And I'm like, I think this guy set me up 0.76

01:12:47 to get mugged or something here, right?

01:12:49 And all of a sudden, this beautiful girl,

01:12:52 she had raggedy clothes on, 1.00

01:12:53 she comes out of this fucking, 1.00

01:12:54 the clap, the lapidated building 1.00

01:12:57 that looks like a hip-hop bomb.

01:12:58 Nobody lives in there. 1.00

01:12:59 This is all the band and shit. 1.00

01:13:00 And she comes out. 1.00

01:13:01 I said, what the fuck? 1.00

01:13:03 Wow. 1.00

01:13:03 Yeah, but this is why I'm talking about Castro. 0.99

01:13:06 You know, the natives there were unable to live. 0.95

01:13:09 They can't go in the hotels there. 0.99

01:13:11 The people that live in the residence.

01:13:12 Because they don't want to be talking to people that are visiting?

01:13:15 I don't know, but they're not allowed to go in the hotel.

01:13:17 Mr. Castro allowed me to take people to my hotel.

01:13:20 They let me do whatever I wanted to do over there.

01:13:22 Yeah, he was really nice.

01:13:24 I think I had a fight there.

01:13:27 I threw bottles.

01:13:28 I didn't get arrested or nothing.

01:13:29 I was telling people, leave me alone.

01:13:31 Let me do what I want. 1.00

01:13:33 Damn. 1.00

01:13:33 Anybody else who had been throwing bottles and stuff on Cuba, they would have got fucked up. 1.00

01:13:37 They would have been in the hospital, then they would have been in the infirmary. 0.98

01:13:43 Then they would have been in jail.

01:13:45 What made you want to go to Russia? 0.59

01:13:46 Because that was kind of like a, like why, you know what I'm saying?

01:13:51 Like, I don't even know.

01:13:52 First of all, did they even at the time have black people in Russia?

01:13:57 Yes.

01:13:58 Did they really?

01:13:59 Because they never put them on like the websites or anything. 1.00

01:14:01 Black people came to Russia.

01:14:02 Like, no, they came to Russia around 1909. 1.00

01:14:05 Black people did? 0.96

01:14:06 Yeah.

01:14:07 You know, and I met black Ukrainians.

01:14:11 I met black Russians. 1.00

01:14:12 It was really amazing shit. 1.00

01:14:14 Wow. 1.00

01:14:14 Yeah.

01:14:15 Because you probably wouldn't even think that would have happened, right?

01:14:17 No, until they start talking.

01:14:18 Yeah.

01:14:19 Wow.

01:14:21 Dude, that's cool.

01:14:22 That's one cool thing about traveling sometimes, bro.

01:14:25 This is a true thing.

01:14:25 You might see somebody that looks like you and their mother might be black and their father might be white or something.

01:14:31 or African or something.

01:14:32 Well, you just realized that, like,

01:14:34 oh, there's so many people out there.

01:14:37 Like, when I was in my little town,

01:14:38 I thought heaven was only going to be people in our town, right? 1.00

01:14:40 Listen, let me tell you something about Russian people

01:14:44 and Ukrainian people, right?

01:14:48 Listen, no, yeah, I'm up there, right?

01:14:51 And so we got some call girls, supposedly call girls, right?

01:14:55 Some call girls?

01:14:56 Yeah, supposedly call girls.

01:14:57 They're escorts, they call girls.

01:15:00 Yeah.

01:15:01 And listen, I'm saying to myself,

01:15:02 I want to talk to my friend in Yugoslavia.

01:15:06 She talks Yugoslavia.

01:15:07 She calls him that.

01:15:08 I want to talk to a friend that's staying in China.

01:15:12 She talks to the...

01:15:13 The common call girl must speak around seven languages. 0.91

01:15:19 A call girl in America can't even speak English. 0.98

01:15:24 Can't speak her home language. 0.99

01:15:26 Call girl speaks seven languages. 1.00

01:15:27 I'm trying to think, how can I get this girl from here 0.99

01:15:30 to America. 0.98

01:15:31 She's going to be 0.94

01:15:32 a Fortune 500 company.

01:15:33 I'm telling you.

01:15:35 She speaks eight languages

01:15:36 and stuff. 0.89

01:15:37 Been to the best schools 0.97

01:15:38 and she's a call girl? 0.95

01:15:40 Dang.

01:15:41 I'm like, whoa. 1.00

01:15:42 And women here, 1.00

01:15:43 they barely will even learn 1.00

01:15:44 even one language

01:15:45 or even one and a half languages. 0.99

01:15:47 They're not even going to learn

01:15:48 how to cook.

01:15:49 Yeah.

01:15:49 What do you mean?

01:15:50 Language. 0.99

01:15:51 They don't know how to cook. 1.00

01:15:52 Dude, some women can barely 1.00

01:15:53 use even emojis. 1.00

01:15:56 I don't know how to use it either.

01:15:57 Yeah, but still,

01:15:58 you shouldn't have to, dude.

01:16:00 You're Mike Tyson, man

01:16:01 No, I'm just saying 1.00

01:16:02 Women here have it made 0.90

01:16:03 Women here have it made 1.00

01:16:05 They have it made 1.00

01:16:05 The other country

01:16:06 You can't have a

01:16:07 You can't have a say of nothing

01:16:09 Yeah

01:16:10 I guess, yeah

01:16:11 I guess I don't realize

01:16:12 How bad like 1.00

01:16:12 Women have it pretty bad 1.00

01:16:14 In Japan 1.00

01:16:14 You see mostly women 0.99

01:16:16 If they're in prison in Japan 1.00

01:16:17 Because they killed their husband 1.00

01:16:18 Nuh-uh 1.00

01:16:19 Majority of them

01:16:20 Yeah, they just can't stand

01:16:21 Abusing him or something

01:16:22 Oh 0.99

01:16:23 Damn 1.00

01:16:24 Japan, can you imagine? 1.00

01:16:26 Mm-mm

01:16:27 Because they're so peaceful

01:16:28 A lot of times

01:16:29 We had a Japanese substitute teacher, and he didn't even say anything to us because he didn't want to bother us.

01:16:38 That's how nice he was.

01:16:40 We didn't learn anything.

01:16:40 That's how scared he was.

01:16:41 Yeah, that's how scared he was.

01:16:43 We didn't learn anything for four days because he didn't even want to bother us.

01:16:49 You fought in Japan against, was it, who was it?

01:16:51 I had two fights in Japan for this fight, Buster Douglas and someone else, Tony Tubbs.

01:16:56 Buster Douglas, that's when you won the championship?

01:16:59 I lost the championship. 1.00

01:17:00 Oh, damn. 0.99

01:17:01 Sorry. 0.99

01:17:01 No, be sorry.

01:17:02 I'm happy.

01:17:03 I got $40 million.

01:17:04 You got $40 million?

01:17:05 I got $35, yeah.

01:17:07 Wow. 1.00

01:17:08 Same shit, though. 1.00

01:17:09 Yeah, same, bro. 1.00

01:17:10 I rounded even.

01:17:12 Yeah.

01:17:14 Dude, that's so wild, bro.

01:17:17 But before that fight, were you training as hard, or were you just living the life?

01:17:22 I was living the life, but he fought a great fight.

01:17:26 Yeah.

01:17:26 I think that was.

01:17:26 He fought a great fight.

01:17:28 Dude, I remember we were like,

01:17:29 I was living in Charleston, South Carolina at the time

01:17:31 and somebody had bought the fight with like a projector

01:17:34 and they projected it on the side of like a building

01:17:36 and everybody came downtown and watched it, dude.

01:17:39 It was awesome, bro.

01:17:40 It was a good time, man.

01:17:42 It was like, when you fought, it was like,

01:17:44 it brought everybody,

01:17:46 it was like watching the Challenger blow up.

01:17:47 Everybody showed up, you know?

01:17:49 The Challenger did blow up.

01:17:51 Remember that?

01:17:52 Everybody watched the whole television that whole day,

01:17:54 watched it over and over again.

01:17:56 That's like those guys

01:17:58 That went in the water

01:17:58 With those submarines

01:17:59 And it combusts

01:18:00 From inside

01:18:01 Boots

01:18:01 Yeah

01:18:01 He took his son down

01:18:03 This guy took his son down there

01:18:05 But they went down there 1.00

01:18:06 In a fucking McNugget 1.00

01:18:07 You know that shit's 1.00

01:18:07 Gonna happen dude 1.00

01:18:08 Bro it said Cutlass

01:18:10 On the side of it

01:18:10 It was a Delta 88 1.00

01:18:11 I'm like you got in that bitch 1.00

01:18:13 They just 1.00

01:18:14 I don't wanna

01:18:15 I shouldn't say that

01:18:16 They're good people

01:18:16 They got

01:18:17 They got smashed

01:18:18 They didn't even feel it

01:18:22 They didn't feel it

01:18:23 That's tight boy

01:18:24 because I hate even getting in a small shirt you ever put a small shirt on and you can't

01:18:29 even get out of it oh I like being in a small shirt yeah dude I went to Hulk's funeral man

01:18:39 did you really yeah tell me about that it was pretty special man like well it was a lot of

01:18:43 things it was like where was it at right outside of Tampa right outside of Tampa and um well one

01:18:50 thing that was interesting Jim McMahon was there but nobody knew he was there and then at one point

01:18:54 he came out like...

01:18:57 Vince McMahon.

01:18:58 Yeah.

01:18:59 You ever met Jim McMahon?

01:19:00 That's his father.

01:19:01 No, Jim McMahon was a quarterback

01:19:03 for the Chicago Bears.

01:19:04 Remember him?

01:19:04 Oh, he's badass.

01:19:05 Yeah, he was.

01:19:06 Funny glasses. 0.93

01:19:07 Yeah, he had that mullet, dude. 0.99

01:19:08 He showed me his fricking butthole 0.98

01:19:10 one time in Palm Springs 0.99

01:19:13 at a casino for no reason.

01:19:15 No, it was a reason.

01:19:17 It was a reason.

01:19:20 He figured you out.

01:19:22 He figured you out.

01:19:24 He looks like a quarterback.

01:19:26 He's a great quarterback, great perception.

01:19:28 The quarterback perception.

01:19:30 Look at this receiver.

01:19:35 That's crazy, dude.

01:19:36 But anyway, you're right.

01:19:37 Keep that hole open. 0.99

01:19:41 Tell me about him showing you his butt hole. 0.99

01:19:43 Tell me about that. 0.99

01:19:44 How did that appear?

01:19:46 What caused it?

01:19:47 Well, nobody was expecting it.

01:19:48 It was just like a regular night.

01:19:51 Have you ever hung out with him before?

01:19:52 I'd never met him before.

01:19:55 And he was drinking beers.

01:19:56 And he kept, he was saving all the cans.

01:19:58 I think he was like, he's like a, what's it called when you care about the nature?

01:20:03 When you're like a. 1.00

01:20:04 Asshole. 1.00

01:20:07 Asshole. 1.00

01:20:11 He was, don't be saying that the legal have a lawsuit. 1.00

01:20:14 You saw his asshole. 1.00

01:20:16 I saw it. 1.00

01:20:17 It was dark.

01:20:18 I mean, but.

01:20:18 Jim McMahon, you're welcome to come on and have a lawsuit. 1.00

01:20:21 this man saw your asshole. 1.00

01:20:23 What? 1.00

01:20:24 Dude, why are you? 1.00

01:20:26 You said you saw the asshole. 1.00

01:20:28 He may think differently. 1.00

01:20:30 Well, look.

01:20:31 He may say if that was a cheek, 1.00

01:20:32 that wasn't an asshole. 0.99

01:20:35 Mike is working in, 0.99

01:20:37 now you working for an attorney's office.

01:20:40 I know who it is. 1.00

01:20:42 Was it a cheek or an asshole? 1.00

01:20:44 I don't know, man. 1.00

01:20:46 Damn, you tricked me. 0.99

01:20:47 I just said I don't know. 1.00

01:20:49 What?

01:20:50 I knew it was a little while ago.

01:20:51 You're right.

01:20:51 I'm not sure.

01:20:52 It was shadowy out,

01:20:53 but I do remember

01:20:53 we were by the pool

01:20:54 and it was nighttime.

01:20:56 But anyway.

01:20:57 Yeah, so I'm opening up

01:20:58 some cheeks, right?

01:20:58 Spread his cheeks.

01:20:59 Right, but everything

01:21:00 in my just like mind,

01:21:02 I guess, 1.00

01:21:03 thought there was an asshole. 1.00

01:21:04 What did he say? 1.00

01:21:04 Come get it, guys?

01:21:06 No.

01:21:07 Come on, guys.

01:21:10 No, he wasn't saying

01:21:12 anything like that.

01:21:13 He was telling a joke

01:21:14 about his ex-girlfriend

01:21:16 or something

01:21:16 and then he said,

01:21:18 and then he said

01:21:19 the punchline.

01:21:20 I don't remember it. 0.99

01:21:20 I mean, he just kind of showed his butthole at the end. 0.98

01:21:24 The running back, he said, come run up in the net. 0.99

01:21:26 Who's the running back for his show?

01:21:28 Who was the running back at the time?

01:21:30 It wasn't Peyton, was it?

01:21:31 No.

01:21:32 Sayers?

01:21:32 No, Sayers was early.

01:21:33 Sayers was too old.

01:21:36 Was it?

01:21:37 No, was it really?

01:21:38 And 85 Bears was Peyton? 1.00

01:21:41 Run up in here, Big Tay. 0.99

01:21:42 Walter, come on.

01:21:43 Come on, Walter. 0.94

01:21:45 Get over here, Walter.

01:21:46 You're a badass, old man.

01:21:47 I didn't mean to see it.

01:21:50 But, yeah, anyway, let's move on.

01:21:52 But here's what I'm going to say is, so Vince McMahon comes out there.

01:21:56 Nobody knew he was at the funeral.

01:21:57 And it was wild because they had guys like.

01:21:59 They had beef, too, of Vince.

01:22:01 Yeah, well, I think over the years they'd had a lot of issues, right?

01:22:03 But a lot of my favorite wrestlers were there, and they were kind of broken down,

01:22:07 you know, somewhere in wheelchairs, and some were, like,

01:22:10 some people had urns of other, like, of guys who had passed on.

01:22:15 They had their ashes, just they brought them.

01:22:17 but Vince McMahon got up

01:22:19 and he did like

01:22:20 he played Hulk's music

01:22:21 and he did all like

01:22:22 a lot of his like things

01:22:23 you know

01:22:23 and then he made like a speech

01:22:25 and then he disappeared

01:22:26 but

01:22:26 but it was

01:22:28 it was everything

01:22:29 it was like

01:22:30 you know

01:22:31 he was so much of my childhood

01:22:32 he was like one of the first person

01:22:33 that I ever saw

01:22:34 like in our neighborhood

01:22:35 like a lot of people

01:22:36 didn't have anything

01:22:37 but when wrestling came on

01:22:38 it felt like you had something

01:22:39 I don't know why right

01:22:40 it's like a soap opera for kids

01:22:41 yeah

01:22:42 you know

01:22:42 we know the story

01:22:43 they double teamed them

01:22:45 they cut them up

01:22:46 they put them to sleep

01:22:46 They jumped through him over the rope. 1.00

01:22:49 Fucking yeah. 0.99

01:22:51 Yeah, all of that. 0.99

01:22:52 But anyway, so that was like our hero.

01:22:53 It was like a soapbox.

01:22:54 We knew it was a storyline.

01:22:56 But we, as kids, we thought, I think you believe it's so real.

01:22:59 Oh, 100%.

01:23:00 It was so good.

01:23:01 So that was like one of our heroes.

01:23:03 So to go was just, yeah, I don't know.

01:23:04 It was pretty special.

01:23:05 And his son gave a speech.

01:23:07 It was nice, man.

01:23:08 It was just, but it didn't feel like he passed away because he's so much larger.

01:23:13 Did you ever talk to Hulk on this show?

01:23:15 Yep.

01:23:15 And I'll tell you this.

01:23:16 When I met you downstairs and I got to shake your hand,

01:23:19 I was like, that's the strongest person I'd ever, like,

01:23:23 could we give, like, a mini hug?

01:23:25 I said, that's, I walked out.

01:23:26 I said, that's the strongest person I've ever given a mini hug to.

01:23:29 The second strongest was Hulk Hogan.

01:23:32 Really?

01:23:32 Yep.

01:23:33 Hulk was massive, man.

01:23:34 He was a big star.

01:23:36 He was just such a big star.

01:23:37 You could never imagine how big he was.

01:23:39 Who was, like, a hero to you like that?

01:23:41 Bruno Sammartino.

01:23:43 Bruno Sammartino?

01:23:44 That was my hero, my guy.

01:23:46 Wow.

01:23:47 He could beat everybody.

01:23:48 He was champion for 12 years.

01:23:49 Yeah, he's amazing.

01:23:50 He could beat everybody.

01:23:51 He was champion.

01:23:52 Listen, I was seven until I was like, what, seven to like 20 almost.

01:24:00 Yeah.

01:24:00 Champion.

01:24:01 He was a legend, man.

01:24:02 Yeah.

01:24:03 I got to interview one of the Von Ericks one time, Kevin Von Erick.

01:24:05 I don't know if you remember.

01:24:06 They died at four.

01:24:07 Yeah.

01:24:08 Listen, man.

01:24:09 I'm a historian.

01:24:10 Don't play with me now.

01:24:11 Yeah.

01:24:12 Ask me some questions.

01:24:13 I have read, actually, that you, like, studied a lot of, like, you really enjoy, like, philosophy, like, Tolstoy, Alexander the Great.

01:24:25 Who were some, like, famous warriors that you admire the most, kind of, in history?

01:24:29 Oh, all of them.

01:24:30 Achilles, Alexander, Hannibal.

01:24:33 There was just El Cid.

01:24:34 There was just so many different concepts.

01:24:36 You say, why do you want to do this?

01:24:38 Because, no, I, some of them want to be God.

01:24:41 They believe if I control all this world,

01:24:43 if I control the world, I'm a God.

01:24:46 And they said, at the end of the day,

01:24:48 they realized they were nothing, you know?

01:24:51 But can you even relate to that?

01:24:53 Like, did you ever have a time in your life

01:24:54 where you're, because our ego

01:24:55 is one of the scariest things, right?

01:25:00 You can only play with the thought of it.

01:25:01 It's not sincere, it's not real.

01:25:04 Yeah.

01:25:05 Only way you're a God is if you live forever.

01:25:09 You're immortal.

01:25:10 You know, but we have demigods now.

01:25:13 Now we have authors that turn people into gods.

01:25:18 You know?

01:25:18 Like, what do you mean by that?

01:25:20 Some people will never be forgotten.

01:25:22 Napoleon and all these guys.

01:25:23 To know your history, you have to know these people.

01:25:27 They're part of history.

01:25:28 We can't know our history if we don't know these people.

01:25:31 That's what makes them godly.

01:25:33 Oh, only if we know them.

01:25:35 You never get to know them unless you read about them.

01:25:39 They're only in special places to know their identity.

01:25:43 Did you, like, what was one of the toughest times you ever had with your own ego?

01:25:46 Because, like, ego is just so scary, right?

01:25:48 I don't know.

01:25:48 My ego is so personal, you know?

01:25:54 I don't know how to even consider it.

01:25:56 I just want to do better than before.

01:25:58 I don't think I have, you know, I do think I'm Alexander the Great sometimes.

01:26:03 No, I kid, but I think I have.

01:26:05 And what are you talking about?

01:26:05 Like, you do, like, you're dressing up in the bedroom.

01:26:08 What you doing?

01:26:08 A little role playing?

01:26:11 Put on that ATG hat.

01:26:12 It says ATG on it?

01:26:13 No, it's just that the way I conduct myself.

01:26:15 He was a cancer too, my Alexander.

01:26:17 And what his downfall was, was he's moody.

01:26:20 I learned that not to let my moods control my feelings.

01:26:24 He was really moody.

01:26:26 That was his downfall.

01:26:28 What helped you have discipline?

01:26:30 Say something like that you noticed about yourself.

01:26:32 What helped you create some little disciplines like that?

01:26:34 The best way to receive discipline is to do what you hate to do, but to do it like you love it.

01:26:41 You do that, that's discipline.

01:26:44 And is that something you've really practiced?

01:26:46 That's all I've practiced my whole life, even now.

01:26:51 Did you always love fighting, or did you hate fighting?

01:26:55 No, I loved it.

01:26:56 I loved the concept of fighting.

01:26:58 I loved the fighters.

01:27:00 I was one of the greatest fighters in the world to know my name.

01:27:03 I would, you know, I would be on my knee, kiss their hands, kiss their feet.

01:27:08 I loved them.

01:27:08 I worshipped them.

01:27:10 I believed that they touched me.

01:27:11 They had some magic on me.

01:27:13 So I always wanted to be around.

01:27:14 I carried their bags for them.

01:27:17 I gave them money.

01:27:17 When I became a big time fighter, I always gave them money because they're normally broken down.

01:27:21 They don't have no money.

01:27:23 You know, most of them have dementia.

01:27:24 So I always gave them money to care of them.

01:27:26 Gave it and took it away if they got that dementia.

01:27:28 You feel me?

01:27:29 They run it right back, friend.

01:27:30 But I used to...

01:27:32 But paying homage, you're saying?

01:27:33 Yeah, I had to pay homage.

01:27:35 If I didn't even see these guys, I wouldn't want to be who I am today.

01:27:38 These guys inspired me to be a fighter.

01:27:40 I didn't want to be nothing else.

01:27:42 Even though I saw that they turned out, I normally would turn out like these guys,

01:27:45 nothing, begging.

01:27:46 I still wanted to be a fighter.

01:27:47 I didn't care.

01:27:48 I wanted to be in that fraternity.

01:27:52 Dude, that's so interesting to hear.

01:27:54 Yeah, I never think about that.

01:27:55 It's like, yeah, like, I didn't just, we didn't just come up with the idea of ourselves all by ourselves.

01:28:02 Like, there was so much influence in people that did something before us that, like, let us, no matter what our job is or what our thing is that we like to do in life.

01:28:10 That's interesting, man.

01:28:12 I forget about that sometimes.

01:28:13 Like, yeah, sometimes I get, I don't get stuck there much, but sometimes it'll be like, oh, I'm, like, yeah, I made me.

01:28:20 It deals.

01:28:20 Do you ever think about who you are?

01:28:22 How you really got here?

01:28:24 What you really consist of?

01:28:26 Is there something more than you?

01:28:28 Are we going to see each other again at another time?

01:28:31 Are we living in parallel life?

01:28:33 Is this right here going on somewhere else in life?

01:28:36 We have so much energy, we don't even know about ourselves.

01:28:39 We know everything else, but we know nothing about us.

01:28:42 Oh, yeah, dude.

01:28:43 I didn't, like, most of my life, I wasn't even me.

01:28:49 I was just, like, some survival mechanism that had started off.

01:28:53 Does that make any sense to you?

01:28:55 A hundred percent.

01:28:56 That's the first thing that happens.

01:28:57 Self-preservation starts first.

01:29:00 And then once we get situated,

01:29:01 then we try to figure everything else out.

01:29:03 Yeah.

01:29:05 Yeah, man, it took forever.

01:29:06 Like, it took me probably 30 years just to exhale, you know?

01:29:10 I understand.

01:29:12 I understand, brother.

01:29:13 And then it's scary because there's times I thought, man, like,

01:29:17 I don't even know if I wanted to be like a funny guy.

01:29:20 I might need to be wanting somebody that worked at like a clothing,

01:29:23 like a haberdasher or whatever, like a singer.

01:29:26 But that was the first thing

01:29:28 That I could get people to like

01:29:30 You get attention

01:29:31 Yeah

01:29:31 I see you

01:29:32 And so I couldn't

01:29:33 Like I was just

01:29:34 I didn't have another choice

01:29:36 That formed everything I was

01:29:37 You know

01:29:37 I wanted to be seen so much

01:29:39 I was a little baby

01:29:40 And my mother and her friend

01:29:41 Everybody was having fun drinking

01:29:42 I put my finger in drain

01:29:44 I put it in my mouth

01:29:45 And I started screaming

01:29:48 Everybody grabbed me

01:29:49 And took me to the hospital

01:29:49 But I wanted that attention

01:29:51 At such a young age

01:29:52 Yeah

01:29:53 Oh I love going to the hospital dude

01:29:55 because...

01:29:56 They had good food

01:29:57 back then, too.

01:29:57 And they give you

01:29:58 attention, bro.

01:29:59 Yeah.

01:30:00 Dude, they had a couple 1.00

01:30:01 ladies would come in 1.00

01:30:02 and care about you. 1.00

01:30:03 Even a gay dude, 1.00

01:30:04 they slip in there 0.99

01:30:04 every now and then.

01:30:06 But still, bro,

01:30:07 that Jim McMahon.

01:30:09 Love is love, I tell you.

01:30:11 Hey, bro.

01:30:12 Love is love.

01:30:13 I got a question, Mike.

01:30:15 Did anybody ever...

01:30:18 Because I just got back

01:30:19 from Lexington, right?

01:30:20 Lexington, Kentucky,

01:30:20 and they have the

01:30:21 derby race there,

01:30:22 and it's a beautiful place.

01:30:23 We just shot a special

01:30:24 for Netflix actually

01:30:25 that's coming out

01:30:26 in like about two months

01:30:27 so I'm excited about that

01:30:28 but did anybody ever

01:30:29 approach you 0.90

01:30:30 to buy your semen? 0.99

01:30:34 And I mean that honestly 0.99

01:30:35 and I don't mean that

01:30:37 in like a negative word.

01:30:40 No, I mean

01:30:41 I gave it away free.

01:30:42 Why didn't they want to buy it?

01:30:47 Bro!

01:30:49 Dude, we're giving 1.00

01:30:50 our busted ass semen 1.00

01:30:51 away out here. 1.00

01:30:52 You over there, 1.00

01:30:53 Dang, bruh.

01:30:56 I'm free.

01:30:58 What?

01:30:59 I had no idea they were selling.

01:31:01 They were buying.

01:31:04 Dude.

01:31:05 I'd be a billionaire right now.

01:31:06 You can still.

01:31:08 Bro, as long as you can still warm up a badge, bro.

01:31:11 You can sell it at the merch stand over here.

01:31:13 If I was single, I would.

01:31:16 Oh, look.

01:31:17 That's true.

01:31:17 He might have an issue with it. 0.70

01:31:19 I'd be a maniac. 0.65

01:31:20 God, bruh. 0.73

01:31:21 I could give her a couple ounces

01:31:23 for you out back at this joint today, man.

01:31:27 I'm happy the way my life is now.

01:31:30 Yeah.

01:31:30 What's a few things,

01:31:32 before we go, Mike,

01:31:32 what's a few things that make you,

01:31:34 that bring you some of the most joy

01:31:35 that you have today?

01:31:36 And that can be something small.

01:31:38 It could be anything.

01:31:40 Just my children.

01:31:41 I have to live the life that I live.

01:31:42 That's the only thing.

01:31:43 That's all I care about.

01:31:44 Is it?

01:31:45 That's all I care about.

01:31:48 Yeah, is that something?

01:31:49 And this might even make them strong,

01:31:51 But I won't take the risk

01:31:52 It might kill them too

01:31:53 Wait, say that one more time for me 0.99

01:31:54 I said it might even make them strong 0.99

01:31:56 But it might kill them too

01:31:58 Oh, they have to go through the same stuff

01:32:00 Yeah

01:32:00 I don't want to take the chance

01:32:02 I like the way they're living now

01:32:03 Yeah

01:32:04 Well, you did it

01:32:06 Yeah, man

01:32:07 A lot of help

01:32:08 A lot of help

01:32:09 Yeah

01:32:10 Yeah, we don't do it alone

01:32:13 Excuse me?

01:32:14 No, no way

01:32:15 No way

01:32:17 You realize real quick

01:32:18 When you have children

01:32:19 You need help

01:32:20 Yeah

01:32:21 You need a lot of help

01:32:23 Thank you so much

01:32:25 For joining us today

01:32:26 Mike

01:32:26 I want to say that

01:32:27 Don't worry about it

01:32:27 You have a

01:32:32 One

01:32:33 You have a one man show

01:32:34 That's going to be

01:32:35 That's a live show 0.99

01:32:36 That your wife wrote

01:32:38 Is that right?

01:32:39 Yes she did

01:32:39 Wow 0.87

01:32:40 And did she have to

01:32:41 Get you to sign off

01:32:42 Did y'all do some teamwork

01:32:43 Or what was it?

01:32:44 Sign off for what matter

01:32:45 That this is her work

01:32:46 And I don't get any money for it

01:32:47 What do you mean

01:32:48 Sign off

01:32:49 I mean

01:32:50 Did she just like say

01:32:51 Or was it like

01:32:52 Did you guys like

01:32:53 How do you put that together

01:32:54 Because it's interesting

01:32:55 That she would write it

01:32:56 Is it just about

01:32:57 It's talk

01:32:58 It's talk

01:32:58 It's talk 1.00

01:32:59 About dark shit 1.00

01:33:01 You know 0.99

01:33:02 And it works out well

01:33:03 Yeah

01:33:04 Like you'll love it

01:33:06 When you hear 1.00

01:33:07 The midget story 1.00

01:33:08 You got a good one in it 1.00

01:33:09 Oh

01:33:09 And it's in the show

01:33:11 Oh yeah

01:33:12 Save some of it

01:33:13 Yeah I'm gonna

01:33:13 You know what

01:33:14 I'll come out to one

01:33:15 You gotta check this out

01:33:17 Yeah

01:33:17 I'll come out

01:33:18 I'll even come on stage

01:33:18 And just listen to it

01:33:19 I'll put on something little for you.

01:33:22 Not for you, I'll just wear it.

01:33:24 Tell me about little, how little works.

01:33:27 I'll put on a small shirt.

01:33:28 With a thong, you'll wear a thong.

01:33:30 No, no, bruh.

01:33:31 I'm just saying a small shirt.

01:33:35 But you have that one-man show that's going to be,

01:33:37 and that's going to be a tour.

01:33:40 We'll see.

01:33:41 Okay.

01:33:41 We'll see how much they're paying me for it.

01:33:43 We'll see.

01:33:44 And you have your documentary that's coming out on Netflix.

01:33:48 Yes, I do.

01:33:49 You do. 1.00

01:33:54 Your guys know every fucking thing about you. 1.00

01:33:56 I know. 1.00

01:33:56 What the fuck? 1.00

01:33:57 I don't know. 1.00

01:33:57 We learned a lot tonight, dude.

01:34:00 If Cus D'Amato could see you now and see your whole life, right?

01:34:05 If he could see your whole life, you know,

01:34:07 and just get to spend some time with you today.

01:34:09 Do you think, like, what would be something that you would like to,

01:34:13 like a moment you would like to see with him or have him say?

01:34:17 What do you think would be something that he'd be impressed by? 1.00

01:34:19 I would say, Cuss, 0.80

01:34:22 everybody in the world says I'm the best ever.

01:34:24 What do you think?

01:34:29 What do we think, guys?

01:34:34 But know what he would say?

01:34:36 You know what Cuss would say?

01:34:38 What would he say, Mike?

01:34:41 You didn't move your head enough. 0.62

01:34:43 That guy was a little faster, he would have hit you.

01:34:45 and that guy

01:34:49 was a little faster 0.74

01:34:50 he was gonna hit you 0.95

01:34:51 knock a guy 0.98

01:34:52 in eight seconds

01:34:52 he was a little faster

01:34:54 he met you

01:34:55 had your head up

01:34:56 man thank you so much

01:34:58 for sharing your time

01:34:59 with us today

01:34:59 for bringing your family

01:35:01 here today

01:35:01 just for the opportunity

01:35:02 that we get to see you

01:35:03 they all love you 0.99

01:35:04 I don't know who the fuck 1.00

01:35:05 you are 1.00

01:35:05 my family

01:35:06 my kids love you

01:35:08 you know the truth dude 0.99

01:35:12 I don't know who the fuck 0.98

01:35:13 I am either bro 0.99

01:35:14 I wish I did, too.

01:35:15 But, hey, but I love you, man.

01:35:17 Thank you so kindly, brother.

01:35:18 And that's the truth.

01:35:20 And thank you.

01:35:22 Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Tyson.

01:35:24 Thank you.

01:35:44 But when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:35:49 I can feel it in my bones.

01:35:53 But it's gonna take...

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - May 15, 2026

#658 - Mike Tyson (Live at the Wiltern)

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