#658 - Mike Tyson (Live at the Wiltern)
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In this episode, I sit down with one of the most recognizable people in human history, Mike Tyson. We talk about his life growing up in the streets of New York City, how he became a drug dealer, and what it's like to be a criminal.
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And, um, you know, this podcast has given me like just so many, uh, little moments in
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And, um, and tonight is certainly no different.
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like, you know, it's rare that you get to sit across from one of the most recognizable people
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in human history. This is a man who's been the heavyweight champion of the world, okay? The
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entire world. He's been everything. He's been a father. He's been a dang inmate. He's been a drug
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dealer. He's been a... But I'm just saying, this is a man who has done, I mean that admirationally,
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honestly uh he's been a father he's just done so many things um life has put so much on his
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shoulders and uh and I'm curious to know what that's what it's like um to be him you know and
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I'm grateful to get to spend time with him today uh I feel very fortunate to announce today's guest
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I went to Stefano Ritchie because I knew I was coming here.
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I was going to be casual, but I had to be casually sharp.
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No, it's like a real-life stud just trying on his clothes.
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Have you always been like that, or was that kind of...
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One day, these guys, they pretty much bullied me to help them.
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I never knew about washing and changing clothes.
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Some guys took me to this neighborhood dance.
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And then everybody started laughing at me.
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Now every time somebody says, wow, you look nice.
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Yeah, there's something more respectable about a criminal that is well-dressed, isn't there?
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And thank you for just, you've shared a lot of your life with the world.
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You had one made a mistake and called me a drug dealer.
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I don't have the discipline to be a drug dealer
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I wish I had the discipline to be a drug dealer.
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Alcohol, too, but both of us, my life at one time.
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On the count of three, can we both say our favorite drug,
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if you want to say it at the same time, or is that weird?
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You think that God put too much power in your hands?
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You know I've sat across from like different folks
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Has had like like on their own face has so many
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Like you have a lot of scars on you that are just
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Your own face and you can know do you know like
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You know you don't wake up overnight and you got
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Do you feel like there's something different to offer now
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There's things that people believe that other people want to hear from me
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that I've been saying constantly since the beginning of interviews.
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So it's more their perspective than it is my perspective.
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You know, most of us don't like ourselves on the, you know,
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we don't like ourselves up to that much, you know.
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You can't help it that you're very, that everybody came to see you
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You think it's your fault, really, that you're like this?
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No, if anybody say something negative about me,
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And why are you having me talking about this bullshit?
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Shouldn't the bell, shouldn't we go back to the corners for a minute?
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Like, there's times in your life where people come along and they kind of, like, hold you up by the neck and, like, you know, kind of dry your cheeks and stuff like that and give you a place to be.
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Even if you got a bad mentor, that's better than having no mentor.
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What was it, like, with Cuss outside of the ring?
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You know, I'm getting C minuses, so I'm getting Ds now.
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Teachers are writing nice letters back at home about I'm improving, all that crap.
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And was there stuff around the house that you had to do?
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Like, what was the different feeling that you got there, I guess?
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Well, I felt I had to hold my head, and that was the structure I had
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After every train, every time I finished training,
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I had to mop and sweep the gym, sweep and mop the gym.
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Even when I was a big shot, I'd be in front cover of Sports Illustrated,
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I'm taking all the pictures, boom, all day, the cameras,
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everybody's looking at me, at the end of the day,
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did it put any, like, was it harder to be close to him?
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Like, did you get, like, so kind of, like, busy
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He was my adopted father, legally adopted father.
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actually, he'd have to duck these stuff on the porch.
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And had you felt that before in your life, you think, or no?
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oh that's awesome and he probably felt that about you I bet well I hope so hope so have you had the
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opportunity to try and be that for somebody else in your life or like do you feel like you have
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some of the same like like capabilities that he had it takes a special person to be that type of
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person and we're all special in different ways I'm nowhere near the person that he was no we're born
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You know, he puts himself in a position to be right.
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I mean, they like the part when the ref tries to separate them.
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They don't mind seeing me shadow boxing, but they want to talk deep.
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Why was it such a magnet for you, do you think, fighting?
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I think because when I was young and I watched some of the big time fights,
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I think it was just the way the crowd rooted for people's names.
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Did you feel, like, yeah, why did you, like, it's interesting.
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some people had this feeling they need they want somebody to see them right or or they want to have
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they want to have a say in the world like did you feel like you like were missing part of that like
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were you not being seen or do you know i guess when the custom model told me i'm the greatest
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fighter since the beginning of life so i was 12 he told me that at 12 and you believed him yes
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because you trusted him yes wow that's pretty powerful that it would just be able to you be
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tell him you're the greatest fighter in the world,
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and you're looking at him like he's some old pervert guy
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I'm some fucking world greatest fighter of all time.
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I'm like whatever the fuck people think I am.
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I've heard you talk about being scared as a kid
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Those are just some things that I know about you, right?
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My wife told me, don't judge him, don't judge him.
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do you think that you if you'd have been if you'd have had the things you needed as a child right
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like the things that every child needs right like i don't want that stay away from me keep that shit
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away from me i like i like to suffer you like the way it went i love to suffer i don't want no good
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time right yeah oh you like the discomfort oh yes i like being i like being out of need
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and i'm getting out of my comfort zone but if you'd have had those like if you had the
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Would you have been the heavyweight champion of the world?
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I'd be wearing slippers during the day, probably.
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I'd be wearing dang slippers during the day.
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wouldn't allow me to fight and all that stuff.
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Like, she was a drunk, she was a prostitute, but she was who she was.
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You know, my mom, my mom had like an issue when I was a kid.
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like something that like when my mom was growing up like her dad like um would make him would make
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them like put his food under their table under the door he he would not talk to my mom for like
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for months at a time and he would go in and out of their house through the window that sounds like
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a mental illness yeah right a mental illness what they call now a mental illness right right at the
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time yeah it was just like kind of a reverse drive-through yeah dinner i guess i'm good with
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But anyway, I'm just saying, like, there was just, like, so early on I realized I got to take care of myself, right?
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Like, and I don't know if that was the truth, but inside of myself I made that decision.
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Like, I probably was a kid for maybe 45 seconds, and since then I was an adult.
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You know, my wife is kind of shamanic, and she believes that we ask for our parents.
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I don't know how we got some money, but it was just a festival.
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Her and her friends, they had food there, and we were eating food,
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I know it was something skullduggerish, but I'm sure.
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So I'm sure something that broke the law, but it was just a great moment.
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I was accustomed to the pimps, the criminals, the stick-up guys, the robbers,
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I was everything for the tricks, but yeah, the Johns.
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my mom would only let it be 80 degrees in the house, right?
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This is a little racial, but let's do it because...
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People would burn their trash in the ditch, right?
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And so me and my buddy, William, we would get out there.
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and we would run and jump through the smoke in the ditch
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until somebody drove by and yelled the N-word at us, bro.
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You don't say N-word for a bitch, say nigger.
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All these people drove by and called us niggers.
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If you need, I'm just, I don't want to do something.
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I can't tell what's going on here, to be honest with you.
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I just need to say one thing and I'll be ashamed.
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I don't know if people think I should do it or not
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being a nigga look that nigga pussy's a motherfucker i'm sorry forgive me guys
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hold on i'm sorry i mean i don't know i've had a little i don't you know i don't a little what
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huh you have a little or did you have a little i don't know i think we should move on
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one time right jimmy walker uh the actor from good times right one of the great comedian
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was like uh yeah they didn't see him oh they just see a couple uh a couple of bitches yelling
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dynamite and they just jumped on him right and i laughed i didn't i could have helped and told
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people was going on, but I had to, I was in a hurry. You know, I had to get to Cincinnati.
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Yeah, good time. That was a good show. Dude, Janet Jackson was on there. Yes. Did you ever get to
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meet Janet? Yes, I have. I did have a chance to meet Janet. And someone said, this is a rumor
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that I heard that you and Michael Jackson closed down SeaWorld one night and had a party there.
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Is that true? This is not true at all. It's not true. Don King told me that. He's a liar.
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I'm joking, he didn't tell me that, but we knew if he did, he'd have lied about it.
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But no, did you actually get to spend time with Michael Jackson?
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He was at the end of his, you know, he was dealing with that bad stuff,
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He was really, and only there were four people at the house,
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I thought you were going to be some mullet, redneck.
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Do you think Michael was involved in that kind of stuff when you got to know him?
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I had a different opinion about him once I got to know him.
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One of my friends told me that he had some girls with him,
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and you was inquiring, or these are your girlfriends,
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I went to a Michael Jackson concert with Dog King.
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He would say, come to Cleveland and meet my babies.
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This whole staff is just loving me, loving the back.
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Mike's at the corner chilling like this with the door open.
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I think let me go over there and say hi to Mike, you know,
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Before I say anything, he goes, where did I know you from?
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The whole world's talking about nothing but me.
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If my friend didn't call me to come over to the house and said, Mike called you, I would have never, I would have been hating him now.
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Especially not in the music business if you don't bend your knee.
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Well, yeah, he didn't even, he wasn't friendly even with black folks.
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You got to be on, you know what I'm saying?
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Hey, but listen, anybody's going that route now.
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I've seen a bunch of athletes and singers go that route.
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Yep, that's, hey, Red Rover, Red Rover, come on, you know.
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What if, like, and some of this is just, like, lore stuff.
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And when was that, when you were in prison in New York?
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I was just checking to see if you remember where you were in prison at.
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Listen, I had a lot of really interesting visitors.
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Did she sing for you or anything like that,
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Her and her family came, and they hung out with me.
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She came to visit me, but I'm locked in the hole.
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If you come out the hole, you got to come out chained.
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So I said, I'm not going to come out like that.
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Because you didn't want her to see you like that.
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I didn't want to see me in shackles and my feet and all that crap.
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And when they put you into the whole, so I know it was like 23 hours of darkness, right?
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I mean, at least in case you get up or whatever.
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You go 24 hours a day for like, what, 10 weeks?
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are not able to be by ourselves for a long period of time.
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You know, we haven't developed a relationship with ourselves
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that I'm learning for myself and some of this is
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like because if I say I'm gonna do something and I don't
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after a while I don't even believe myself I think after
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a while I couldn't even listen to myself because it's like
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if that's exactly true but I think that's the best
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are sober for 20 years and all of a sudden, boom!
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any drugs and you beat the system that was
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But sometimes these guys stop using drugs for
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You know, if life is good, how death could be bad?
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If God loves us, how could death really be bad?
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If we look at God the way we believe him to be, how could death be bad if he created it?
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If we didn't think it was final, then how would we behave in this time that we're here?
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You know, little by little, we lose our friends.
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Are you sometimes amazed, like when you look at your life,
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I realize that if you don't believe in God, look at me.
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Because I should not be right here talking to you.
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If I knew I was going to be 60, I would have played the game.
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Oh, I'd walk right up to heaven like this, bro.
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Yeah, I think there's something about when you feel like you're doing everything yourself.
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When I had my mentor, he taught me not to ever say anything negative about myself.
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I want to say beautiful things about myself and never say anything negative about myself
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because my subconscious don't know if I'm playing or not.
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it's pretty isn't it wild how there's something no but i learned that at 12 years old i had to
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learn that at 12 to be the champion at 20 you know if i learned it at 15 16 hey it probably
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wouldn't have worked out there up in chapter 22 probably yeah everything worked out for the right
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reason what was one of the hardest walks uh to the ring you ever had to make
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all the walks are the same pretty much you know it becomes a routine
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was there one that like you didn't want it or it's things had changed or you were like
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i don't i don't know i've never been a fighter i always wanted it because um every time i got
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in the ring when i lost my life changed and a good perspective for my family right you got you
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providing for your family for sure that's all i know how to do when did you um when did you become
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an adult excuse me oh that happened late in life that happened real late in life man i can't even
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tell you man i wasn't probably who what 45 or something oh dude i freaking wet the bed i was 27
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yeah yeah it is but they don't say that they just call you mr drippy drop or whatever
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But yeah, what do you think made you start to turn,
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like, finally, like, I have to, I got to grow up,
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Because some guys took my pigeons and bullied me,
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Yeah, he was a dirty, rotten kind of guy back there.
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You know, he was a young kid back then, rotten guy.
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Yeah, but even if I saw a kid that was kind of like,
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It's just, that's all about humiliating people.
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And were you having trouble finding people to fight?
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They used to bring people for me to fight for money.
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The guy would say, listen, if you win, you get this much.
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What's the first thing you kind of bought when you got a little money?
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I have the munchies ready for the munchies.
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Dude, yeah, but they make your tea stick together.
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You know, I know your teeth is out with in the gung.
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I'm not talking about no Jewish girl with a great tan.
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I'm just saying, like, I'm just trying to think.
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for a while, but they said move along eventually.
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I know being good girls, I give you good time.
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Because Hollywood, people steal people's spouse
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but when my wife was going to do a divorce,
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Damn, bruh, that honky was trying to slide, huh?
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The fact that we got to call Brad Pitt a honky is fucking hilarious, bro.
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At least if your girl's going to be with somebody,
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Have you been good at being in love, you think, over your life?
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I've gotten so much trouble being in love in my life.
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And love is so many entities, you know what I mean?
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Love has been, you've gotten in so much trouble?
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I'm not supposed to do what I do, you know, and that's what we do.
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I'm humble enough to know that I could be replaced,
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but I'm confident to know that nobody in the world is like me.
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You can't even tell who's got a wiener on them these days, you know?
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You'll take a chick's bra off, and she's got damn two wieners on her chest.
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All I know is there's a lot of flat root out there, buddy.
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details. Tekovas. Point your toes west. Did it ever become like being Mike Tyson and being Iron
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Mike Tyson and being like this, when you become bigger than you, how did that affect you? Like
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I'm going to say she's a beautiful, nice lady.
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She has very kind eyes, and she seems like she really cares about you.
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and I saw some, one of them I think is here, maybe two, Michael, Miguel, Miguel, Lo Siento,
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and Milan, and Milan, yeah, Kiki seems to just have like, she wants to make sure that you're
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okay, right, is there like, what's it like now with her, with this relationship, what's this
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marriage like i don't know it's too perfect we need a little bullshit in that other thing
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yeah we're cool we have a great connection you know um we bullshit every now and then
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what's something you really love about her i just love her being a mother she's an awesome
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mother awesome wife and the all-around beautiful person i really hit the jackpot with this monkey
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Is she like a strong woman in the household?
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Like, does she make you get up early or anything?
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I got the real wife that, you know, cooks for me,
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Well, I don't want things that I've said or done to influence
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They have the best opportunities to work, offer.
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And I saw somebody pushing a baby carriage out there, right?
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And they were wearing like a couple of different like shawls or like rugs,
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almost like a bunch of like tapestries and stuff over them and over the carriage.
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And I thought it was like a homeless guy, almost like a French homeless guy, right?
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It looked like, dude, it was French in North Carolina.
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Well, just because of the elegance of the shawls and stuff, they seem very...
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It was freaking Cam Newton pushing his newborn down the street.
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I keep looking, I'm like, damn, they've got the most beautiful, elegant homeless around here.
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That hair is serious pussy advantage right there.
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was in the way of you being a little bitch.
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gotten so much different it's gotten away from them everything became sexual lately and everybody's
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worried about who's sleeping with who everybody's worried about who genders who and who looks like
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this and it's all about that now yes uh there used to be so much more i think i don't know
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when you couldn't record everything the moment was so great but because then also if i needed
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to know a story the only way i could get it was from you or from somebody that told it well yes
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And so that person had like, I don't know, they had an ambiance about him.
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There might be a dude in town, all he did was tell one good story or no good.
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And now we have people out here losing their minds and shit.
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When I was a kid, nobody was killing themselves.
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If you were angry or depressed, you'd just listen to heavy metal and walk around town.
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You know, it's just interesting that people are doing that now.
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You know, people cashing out your insurance and all that shit.
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They put new shoes on him, charged his family 300 bucks.
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I'm like, bitch, he's wearing them for 50 minutes.
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But I agree, there's something the government knows, man.
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Do you believe that people have that in us still?
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I believe that some people, even the elite people,
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they have money and have the resources to live longer, healthier.
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Imagine somebody say, I have something in this needle
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that'll make you last 30 more years, strong.
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It'll make your dick stay hard for 24 hours
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So one day, I do my monthly checkup, but I'm still getting high.
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I'm going to get my checkup with my probation officer.
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These motherfuckers, they can't, they don't, yeah, they don't love me.
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Dude, yeah, you ever have those days where you stayed up multiple days from doing cocaine or not?
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So listen, I'm, oh, I'm going to tell you this bullshit story.
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So I can't get any sleep, so I'm calling the person, my nose hurt like a motherfucker, right?
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And so I'm calling the person, and I'm saying my nose is hurt.
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Let's get a round of applause for Mike's doctor, bro.
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I said, your doctor, you know, I'm feeling bad.
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The doctor, my brother, this is on my children's lights.
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I'm talking to the doctor about I got a problem.
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I said, no, I don't want to get hired with her.
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I said, I know this motherfucker didn't take my Coke.
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I got mad because I should have kept that shit then.
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So one time my friend, we're getting out of an Uber.
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so i pick his coke up i'd never seen it before i just saw this little bag in it i've registered
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pretty quick this is probably cocaine right and so we go inside we're staying at my buddy kevin's
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house um we go inside and he starts saying hey will you help me look for something but he won't
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he won't tell me what it is because he doesn't want me knowing that he doesn't want to give me
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that's what it is yeah yeah that's what it is bro so i keep sneaking off and doing the coke
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Bro, after like two hours, he goes to sleep.
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I'm still looking for the shit and doing it, bro.
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I'm that motherfucker that will ride with you, Mike.
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I got to tell you this story about cocaine, okay?
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it's nothing but bricks and rocks and bandits.
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It looks like a bomb at the business, disgusting.
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Yeah, but this is why I'm talking about Castro.
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You know, the natives there were unable to live.
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Because they don't want to be talking to people that are visiting?
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I don't know, but they're not allowed to go in the hotel.
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Mr. Castro allowed me to take people to my hotel.
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They let me do whatever I wanted to do over there.
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Anybody else who had been throwing bottles and stuff on Cuba, they would have got fucked up.
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They would have been in the hospital, then they would have been in the infirmary.
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Because that was kind of like a, like why, you know what I'm saying?
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First of all, did they even at the time have black people in Russia?
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Because they never put them on like the websites or anything.
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Like, no, they came to Russia around 1909.
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Because you probably wouldn't even think that would have happened, right?
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That's one cool thing about traveling sometimes, bro.
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You might see somebody that looks like you and their mother might be black and their father might be white or something.
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I thought heaven was only going to be people in our town, right?
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Listen, let me tell you something about Russian people
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And so we got some call girls, supposedly call girls, right?
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I want to talk to a friend that's staying in China.
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The common call girl must speak around seven languages.
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A call girl in America can't even speak English.
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I'm trying to think, how can I get this girl from here
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We had a Japanese substitute teacher, and he didn't even say anything to us because he didn't want to bother us.
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We didn't learn anything for four days because he didn't even want to bother us.
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You fought in Japan against, was it, who was it?
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I had two fights in Japan for this fight, Buster Douglas and someone else, Tony Tubbs.
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Buster Douglas, that's when you won the championship?
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But before that fight, were you training as hard, or were you just living the life?
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I was living the life, but he fought a great fight.
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I was living in Charleston, South Carolina at the time
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and somebody had bought the fight with like a projector
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and they projected it on the side of like a building
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and everybody came downtown and watched it, dude.
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Everybody watched the whole television that whole day,
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because I hate even getting in a small shirt you ever put a small shirt on and you can't
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even get out of it oh I like being in a small shirt yeah dude I went to Hulk's funeral man
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did you really yeah tell me about that it was pretty special man like well it was a lot of
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things it was like where was it at right outside of Tampa right outside of Tampa and um well one
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thing that was interesting Jim McMahon was there but nobody knew he was there and then at one point
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Tell me about him showing you his butt hole.
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I think he was like, he's like a, what's it called when you care about the nature?
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He was, don't be saying that the legal have a lawsuit.
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Jim McMahon, you're welcome to come on and have a lawsuit.
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I mean, he just kind of showed his butthole at the end.
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The running back, he said, come run up in the net.
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But here's what I'm going to say is, so Vince McMahon comes out there.
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Yeah, well, I think over the years they'd had a lot of issues, right?
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But a lot of my favorite wrestlers were there, and they were kind of broken down,
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you know, somewhere in wheelchairs, and some were, like,
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some people had urns of other, like, of guys who had passed on.
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But we, as kids, we thought, I think you believe it's so real.
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It was just, but it didn't feel like he passed away because he's so much larger.
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When I met you downstairs and I got to shake your hand,
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I was like, that's the strongest person I'd ever, like,
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I said, that's the strongest person I've ever given a mini hug to.
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Listen, I was seven until I was like, what, seven to like 20 almost.
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I got to interview one of the Von Ericks one time, Kevin Von Erick.
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I have read, actually, that you, like, studied a lot of, like, you really enjoy, like, philosophy, like, Tolstoy, Alexander the Great.
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Who were some, like, famous warriors that you admire the most, kind of, in history?
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Now we have authors that turn people into gods.
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To know your history, you have to know these people.
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We can't know our history if we don't know these people.
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You never get to know them unless you read about them.
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They're only in special places to know their identity.
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Did you, like, what was one of the toughest times you ever had with your own ego?
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I don't think I have, you know, I do think I'm Alexander the Great sometimes.
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Like, you do, like, you're dressing up in the bedroom.
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I learned that not to let my moods control my feelings.
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Say something like that you noticed about yourself.
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What helped you create some little disciplines like that?
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The best way to receive discipline is to do what you hate to do, but to do it like you love it.
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That's all I've practiced my whole life, even now.
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Did you always love fighting, or did you hate fighting?
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I was one of the greatest fighters in the world to know my name.
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I would, you know, I would be on my knee, kiss their hands, kiss their feet.
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When I became a big time fighter, I always gave them money because they're normally broken down.
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Gave it and took it away if they got that dementia.
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If I didn't even see these guys, I wouldn't want to be who I am today.
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Even though I saw that they turned out, I normally would turn out like these guys,
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It's like, yeah, like, I didn't just, we didn't just come up with the idea of ourselves all by ourselves.
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Like, there was so much influence in people that did something before us that, like, let us, no matter what our job is or what our thing is that we like to do in life.
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Like, yeah, sometimes I get, I don't get stuck there much, but sometimes it'll be like, oh, I'm, like, yeah, I made me.
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Are we going to see each other again at another time?
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Is this right here going on somewhere else in life?
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We have so much energy, we don't even know about ourselves.
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We know everything else, but we know nothing about us.
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I didn't, like, most of my life, I wasn't even me.
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I was just, like, some survival mechanism that had started off.
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Like, it took me probably 30 years just to exhale, you know?
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And then it's scary because there's times I thought, man, like,
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I don't even know if I wanted to be like a funny guy.
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I might need to be wanting somebody that worked at like a clothing,
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Bro, as long as you can still warm up a badge, bro.
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But you have that one-man show that's going to be,
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And you have your documentary that's coming out on Netflix.
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Your guys know every fucking thing about you.
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If Cus D'Amato could see you now and see your whole life, right?
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and just get to spend some time with you today.
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Do you think, like, what would be something that you would like to,
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like a moment you would like to see with him or have him say?
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What do you think would be something that he'd be impressed by?
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That guy was a little faster, he would have hit you.
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But when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.