This Past Weekend with Theo Von

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00:00:38.640 Today's guest is a two-time Kentucky Derby winner.

00:00:44.760 And he's also won the Preakness, if you're familiar with horse racing and outdoor horsing.

00:00:52.300 And this man is a special man. He's from Veracruz, Mexico.

00:00:59.260 And really excited to learn all about jockeying.

00:01:02.660 I've always wanted to know about it.

00:01:04.280 You know what I'm saying? Who's in that cockpit of that horse?

00:01:07.860 Today's guest is Mr. Mario Gutierrez.

00:01:11.300 For me to set that parking brake

00:01:15.000 And let myself unwind

00:01:17.760 Shine that light on me

00:01:21.760 I'll sit and tell you my stories

00:01:27.700 Shine on me

00:01:32.440 And I will find a song

00:01:36.660 I'll be singing

00:01:37.840 I'll be singing

00:01:37.880 Just go

00:01:39.620 And now I've been moving way too fast

00:01:47.360 Mario Gutierrez, man.

00:01:48.460 So what happened, man?

00:01:49.340 You had some...

00:01:51.160 What happened yesterday?

00:01:52.020 You said something happened.

00:01:53.520 Wow.

00:01:54.520 I was riding a couple of things.

00:01:55.660 My car broke down yesterday,

00:01:56.780 so I took it to the dealership.

00:01:58.400 On the interstate or on a side road?

00:02:00.640 No, I was in the highway.

00:02:02.700 Yeah, that's always a real rodeo, bro.

00:02:06.220 When you break down out there.

00:02:07.300 It was a run-new car too,

00:02:08.360 so I don't know what happened.

00:02:10.560 Yeah, I had to take it to the dealership

00:02:12.800 and then get a loaner car.

00:02:15.600 And this morning I had to go to the track

00:02:17.380 to do the training,

00:02:18.940 the usual training that I had to do before racing.

00:02:21.220 Okay.

00:02:22.000 I was doing that.

00:02:23.060 I was getting ready to leave.

00:02:24.380 Grab a couple of things to show you guys.

00:02:26.480 And then as I was getting out of the racetrack,

00:02:30.720 freaking car power went off.

00:02:33.200 The same thing happened.

00:02:34.320 The loaner car broke down too.

00:02:36.260 No, the loaner broke down.

00:02:38.500 So I called my agent on the way

00:02:40.540 and then he loaned me his car

00:02:42.320 and he's like, get out of here.

00:02:45.220 And so when you go...

00:02:47.180 And let's put it...

00:02:47.960 What brand of car is it, man?

00:02:49.100 Let's get this brand out there.

00:02:50.440 Oh, I don't even want to say it.

00:02:52.220 You don't?

00:02:52.840 It's a fancy car actually.

00:02:54.660 It is?

00:02:55.060 It is.

00:02:57.220 BMW maybe?

00:02:58.400 No, Up.

00:02:59.360 Up?

00:02:59.780 Yeah.

00:03:00.020 Oh, Range Rover.

00:03:01.940 And in that area, it's like a Maserati.

00:03:04.520 It was a Maserati.

00:03:04.800 Oh, wow.

00:03:05.340 Yeah, it's a Maserati.

00:03:06.420 Yeah.

00:03:07.140 You drive a Maserati?

00:03:08.580 Well, no, that was a loaner car.

00:03:09.740 I drive an Alfa Romeo.

00:03:12.720 Oh, that's what Nick drives.

00:03:13.720 And then the engine light went on in that car.

00:03:17.240 That's what happened.

00:03:18.280 Like I was driving it and the power went out.

00:03:20.380 Like probably a bicycle could have gone faster than that.

00:03:23.520 And when the power goes out in your car,

00:03:25.000 do you kind of get that same feeling?

00:03:26.660 Actually, I do.

00:03:27.660 I was like, come on, come on.

00:03:29.020 Just one more point.

00:03:30.560 You have to do it.

00:03:31.920 Oh, I did that.

00:03:33.420 Actually, I did do that.

00:03:34.480 I can see that.

00:03:35.040 It's almost like a habit.

00:03:36.040 Yeah.

00:03:36.520 Yeah.

00:03:36.820 I was like, even when I watch my replays,

00:03:38.940 when I like after like the race finish

00:03:41.860 and I come back to Yorkshire,

00:03:43.020 if I win or finish a close second,

00:03:45.620 I'm watching the replay.

00:03:46.620 And all of a sudden,

00:03:47.220 as I'm getting to the wire on the replay,

00:03:49.300 I'm like leaning towards like thinking

00:03:51.380 that something different is going to happen.

00:03:53.300 It's just a habit.

00:03:53.840 Oh, it's just a habit.

00:03:54.760 That's interesting, man.

00:03:57.300 And so you're,

00:03:58.900 whenever you said like today you went to,

00:04:00.800 or yesterday or today,

00:04:01.780 you went to do the training.

00:04:02.820 Like, what is that like?

00:04:03.800 So you go there.

00:04:05.160 Is there a time you have to be there on a race day?

00:04:06.860 So today's a race day.

00:04:07.960 Yeah.

00:04:08.180 Today's a race day.

00:04:08.920 Well, typically, even in a race day,

00:04:11.240 we Monday through Sunday,

00:04:15.820 we train horses.

00:04:17.600 Okay.

00:04:17.820 You know, and those horses that we train in,

00:04:20.260 we usually get to run them like, you know,

00:04:23.280 a week from now,

00:04:24.400 like 15 days from now.

00:04:26.160 So we're constantly working these horses.

00:04:29.060 And then like,

00:04:29.640 they're not necessarily going to run on the weekend,

00:04:31.580 you know,

00:04:31.800 but they might run like the weekend after,

00:04:34.840 you know, so.

00:04:35.620 I see.

00:04:36.080 So horses that are going to be like,

00:04:37.620 say if I'm going to go to the race,

00:04:38.920 like maybe in a week or two,

00:04:41.120 the horses I'm seeing,

00:04:42.080 going to see then you guys are kind of training them,

00:04:44.280 getting used to the track.

00:04:45.700 No, getting ready.

00:04:46.480 No, just like a,

00:04:47.280 like a normal athlete,

00:04:48.600 you know,

00:04:48.820 getting the physical training into it,

00:04:50.580 you know,

00:04:50.760 the long capacity.

00:04:51.600 So they're able to push harder in the stretch and things like that.

00:04:54.660 It's like,

00:04:55.000 it's.

00:04:55.820 Oh, wow.

00:04:56.420 So you guys get them out there like athletes.

00:04:58.940 And what time do you guys do that kind of each day?

00:05:00.980 So early in the morning,

00:05:02.000 the race track open around like I think for 30,

00:05:04.600 you know,

00:05:04.860 and then it closes at like 10 o'clock.

00:05:06.640 I usually get that at six 30,

00:05:08.300 you know,

00:05:08.540 that's when I start.

00:05:09.680 And usually by nine,

00:05:11.160 nine 45,

00:05:11.800 I'm done.

00:05:12.500 Wow.

00:05:12.960 Yeah.

00:05:13.560 So dude,

00:05:14.100 you're on the horse and it's going fast,

00:05:15.960 huh?

00:05:16.200 Yeah.

00:05:16.560 Is it scary or no?

00:05:18.460 No,

00:05:18.840 it's not as scary for me anymore.

00:05:20.680 You know,

00:05:20.840 it was a little bit of scary when I started when I was young,

00:05:24.320 but now I just like,

00:05:25.700 you know,

00:05:25.940 like any other racing athlete,

00:05:29.820 I guess,

00:05:30.320 you know,

00:05:30.520 like you just get used to,

00:05:31.620 you love for that.

00:05:32.360 I love what I do.

00:05:33.280 So I'm like,

00:05:34.020 I live for that.

00:05:34.880 You know,

00:05:35.080 it's like that generally is the excitement is like over that.

00:05:39.720 Who's the athlete?

00:05:40.620 Are you the athlete or the horse is the athlete or you're both the athlete?

00:05:43.680 We're both,

00:05:44.480 you know,

00:05:44.740 like it's almost like it's,

00:05:46.200 but no,

00:05:46.580 it's,

00:05:46.820 it's not almost like it's a team,

00:05:48.200 you know,

00:05:48.400 like he isn't the athlete,

00:05:50.200 you know,

00:05:50.740 he usually,

00:05:51.380 he actually does most of the work,

00:05:52.820 you know,

00:05:52.980 the hard work,

00:05:53.780 you know,

00:05:54.120 we are at least too,

00:05:55.700 because we need to constantly be fit enough to,

00:05:58.720 to ride these horses,

00:05:59.540 like have our weight,

00:06:01.080 you know,

00:06:01.620 checked,

00:06:03.040 you know,

00:06:03.260 check,

00:06:03.720 you know,

00:06:03.920 there's certain way that we,

00:06:05.160 we can pass,

00:06:06.120 you know?

00:06:06.400 So that's what,

00:06:07.600 like physically,

00:06:08.860 we have to be super fit because these are like thousand pound animals that,

00:06:13.620 we need to control and we need to,

00:06:15.480 you know,

00:06:15.860 like be able to manage.

00:06:18.180 Oh yeah.

00:06:18.800 And high speed.

00:06:20.960 When you,

00:06:22.200 when you,

00:06:23.320 so like on a race day,

00:06:24.780 what will your day be like on that day?

00:06:27.800 It's usually.

00:06:28.860 So like later today,

00:06:29.860 when you go in for the race,

00:06:31.060 like what is it like when you get there?

00:06:32.680 Like how do you go through,

00:06:33.700 like what is kind of the,

00:06:34.620 the typical.

00:06:36.080 The typical.

00:06:36.560 Yeah.

00:06:36.680 Well,

00:06:36.900 for me,

00:06:37.360 it's like,

00:06:37.760 you know,

00:06:38.000 like I,

00:06:38.320 I,

00:06:38.700 I wake up,

00:06:39.780 like I said,

00:06:40.140 I go to morning training and then that usually finish.

00:06:43.620 Like,

00:06:44.060 like I said,

00:06:44.520 10 o'clock you're done,

00:06:45.400 you know?

00:06:45.800 Okay.

00:06:46.040 And when you're training these horses,

00:06:47.380 like what are you doing?

00:06:48.100 You're like,

00:06:48.360 just almost like,

00:06:49.440 like acting at a race almost.

00:06:52.520 Yeah.

00:06:52.580 Yeah.

00:06:52.800 It's exactly that.

00:06:53.640 It's just like,

00:06:54.220 we simulate a little race by themselves,

00:06:57.000 you know,

00:06:57.180 it's just like,

00:06:57.720 you know,

00:06:58.020 each horse,

00:06:58.560 you know,

00:06:58.760 it's not like we're working a tango force at the same time,

00:07:01.200 not like a race,

00:07:01.860 but like,

00:07:02.720 for example,

00:07:03.340 uh,

00:07:03.740 uh,

00:07:04.540 I'll work my horse five furloughs,

00:07:06.420 you know,

00:07:06.620 that means that I had to make five furloughs in a certain amount of time,

00:07:10.360 like one-on-one.

00:07:11.100 The trainer will tell you how much,

00:07:12.640 how fast you want him,

00:07:14.660 you,

00:07:15.000 he wants him,

00:07:16.200 he wants you to train the horse.

00:07:17.780 Okay.

00:07:18.020 You know?

00:07:18.220 So he,

00:07:18.680 if he tells you,

00:07:19.300 hey,

00:07:19.400 I want you to work five furloughs in one-on-one.

00:07:21.640 So you,

00:07:22.200 um,

00:07:22.820 you do your best to pass those five furloughs in one minute and one second.

00:07:27.900 So,

00:07:28.260 um,

00:07:29.100 so you're out there just kind of setting goals,

00:07:30.500 almost like a,

00:07:31.140 uh,

00:07:31.600 like,

00:07:32.000 like somebody on a track team.

00:07:33.480 Yeah.

00:07:33.600 It does exactly that,

00:07:35.200 you know?

00:07:35.400 And that,

00:07:35.800 that gives like the horse fitness and the long capacity for like,

00:07:39.540 do they like it?

00:07:40.380 Do the horses like being racers?

00:07:41.900 You think?

00:07:42.080 Toro Bras do.

00:07:43.080 Toro Bras do.

00:07:43.960 Yeah.

00:07:44.480 Toro Bras do.

00:07:45.100 It's like,

00:07:45.760 uh,

00:07:46.400 any normal,

00:07:47.420 uh,

00:07:47.660 well,

00:07:47.880 any living creature,

00:07:49.500 you know,

00:07:49.700 there's some horses that don't,

00:07:51.020 you know,

00:07:51.280 there's some horses that like,

00:07:52.540 you know,

00:07:52.840 that no matter how much you ask them,

00:07:55.000 they will,

00:07:55.960 they choose no born to do that,

00:07:57.380 you know?

00:07:57.640 But they're like,

00:07:58.200 Oh yeah.

00:07:58.680 Like Antonio Brown.

00:07:59.680 And there's some horses that they do really love,

00:08:04.100 you know,

00:08:04.280 they're like,

00:08:05.340 uh,

00:08:06.560 it's,

00:08:06.900 well,

00:08:07.480 it's maybe like,

00:08:08.440 uh,

00:08:08.880 I can't explain that because it's a feeling,

00:08:10.780 you know,

00:08:10.980 sometimes I'm on top of them and I do the very minimum and I would just encourage them to go a little faster and they are waiting for that.

00:08:16.740 Oh,

00:08:16.760 they want it.

00:08:17.300 Yeah.

00:08:17.580 They want it.

00:08:18.060 Yeah.

00:08:18.800 So it's interesting.

00:08:19.580 So some of them,

00:08:20.020 can you tell sometimes how,

00:08:21.200 how excited they are about it and how much they like it?

00:08:24.020 Yeah.

00:08:24.500 Oh,

00:08:24.620 you can.

00:08:24.940 Yeah.

00:08:25.080 Well,

00:08:25.300 I,

00:08:25.540 yeah,

00:08:25.940 I'm,

00:08:26.600 I'm,

00:08:26.900 I feel lucky because I,

00:08:27.980 I feel that I can tell that,

00:08:29.360 you know,

00:08:29.680 cause I grew up with horses since early,

00:08:32.260 my early age.

00:08:33.860 And,

00:08:34.360 uh,

00:08:34.680 so yeah.

00:08:35.220 So what was that?

00:08:35.920 Like,

00:08:36.120 so I'm trying to think of what else I would think about like being out there and then,

00:08:40.620 okay.

00:08:40.780 So then you get there for the race day.

00:08:42.400 Now on the race day on the,

00:08:44.720 on the race,

00:08:45.460 you guys show up and what happens?

00:08:48.080 Like,

00:08:48.480 do you have to be drug tested?

00:08:50.220 Does the horse have to be drug tested?

00:08:52.220 Yeah.

00:08:52.540 Horses get drug tests.

00:08:53.760 We don't,

00:08:54.420 we,

00:08:54.620 um,

00:08:55.020 we do get drug tests,

00:08:56.400 drug tests too,

00:08:57.460 but that's like a,

00:08:58.440 it's kind of like a,

00:08:59.220 like a lottery,

00:08:59.900 you know,

00:09:00.160 the officials go there and like,

00:09:02.320 they will just pick randomly,

00:09:04.180 you know,

00:09:04.500 whoever you're going to get this or whatever,

00:09:06.760 whatever they want.

00:09:08.120 Do you want to get tests?

00:09:09.000 And then you had to go and get this.

00:09:11.580 Do some people use,

00:09:12.920 or is there any like performance enhancing drugs for the riders?

00:09:16.280 Is anybody out there?

00:09:17.360 Like some,

00:09:17.840 some guys can be high and do it or do whatever.

00:09:20.240 No,

00:09:20.540 no,

00:09:20.820 no,

00:09:20.940 no.

00:09:21.160 We are like three,

00:09:22.020 like any other athlete.

00:09:23.400 And it's like,

00:09:24.380 there is not,

00:09:25.620 not the,

00:09:26.380 um,

00:09:27.020 if we are in a Percocet or something that we need to have a prescription.

00:09:31.040 If,

00:09:31.440 if you don't,

00:09:32.440 if all of a sudden you get tests and then you pop for a pill,

00:09:35.020 like,

00:09:35.440 you know,

00:09:35.660 like an orc or something like that,

00:09:37.020 then you get,

00:09:37.920 you get suspended.

00:09:39.000 Damn,

00:09:39.460 really?

00:09:39.920 Oh yeah.

00:09:40.960 So everybody got to really keep it together.

00:09:42.900 The horse and the people.

00:09:44.120 Yeah.

00:09:44.240 So it sounds like a lot of jockeys have prescriptions.

00:09:47.700 Yeah,

00:09:48.060 exactly.

00:09:48.860 Right.

00:09:50.420 Let me show you one.

00:09:51.580 When you,

00:09:52.360 uh,

00:09:52.660 so what is the fitness of it like for you?

00:09:57.300 Fitness?

00:09:58.020 For us,

00:09:58.880 because we have to be more lean and stronger,

00:10:01.740 as strong as I like a 120 pounder can get,

00:10:05.440 you know?

00:10:06.120 Right.

00:10:06.600 Cause I'm from Louisiana originally.

00:10:08.000 And they have a lot of guys from Louisiana that are jockeys.

00:10:10.220 Yeah.

00:10:10.660 Yeah.

00:10:10.920 There's a lot of Louisiana jockeys.

00:10:12.420 We have like Alvarado,

00:10:13.680 like there's a couple of names you would hear.

00:10:15.540 Melon song.

00:10:16.400 Yeah.

00:10:16.580 Like a lot of names you would hear a lot.

00:10:18.180 Candice Hormo.

00:10:18.640 I think he's a whole famer on horse racing industry.

00:10:20.880 He's from there.

00:10:21.520 I think.

00:10:21.920 Is he?

00:10:22.200 What's his name?

00:10:22.880 Candice Hormo.

00:10:25.340 Uh,

00:10:25.660 what's the last name?

00:10:26.440 The letter that starts with D Dormon,

00:10:29.540 D O R M O N D.

00:10:30.800 No.

00:10:31.340 D E.

00:10:32.260 D E.

00:10:34.720 Delong.

00:10:36.080 Delong?

00:10:37.040 No.

00:10:39.920 Can with K.

00:10:41.340 My English is horrible.

00:10:42.600 So it's my second language.

00:10:43.680 So like don't.

00:10:44.340 Mine's bad.

00:10:44.940 It's my first language.

00:10:45.840 Yeah.

00:10:46.020 That one.

00:10:46.380 The first one.

00:10:47.700 Oh.

00:10:48.260 That's a hard name for English people.

00:10:50.320 Yeah.

00:10:50.680 Ken.

00:10:51.040 Ken De Sormo.

00:10:53.300 Where's he out of Louisiana?

00:10:54.680 A lot of guys.

00:10:55.540 They got a little,

00:10:56.000 the little swamp babies,

00:10:57.260 man.

00:10:57.360 A lot of French little swamp babies.

00:10:58.920 They pull them up from Maurice,

00:11:00.940 Louisiana.

00:11:01.540 Yeah.

00:11:01.680 That's a,

00:11:02.240 that is a real swamp town right there.

00:11:05.100 And so it's popular in that area.

00:11:07.220 Is it,

00:11:07.980 are there a lot of,

00:11:08.760 are you Mexican or which?

00:11:09.980 Mexican.

00:11:10.560 Both your parents are Mexican?

00:11:11.520 Yeah.

00:11:11.780 Both my parents are Mexican.

00:11:12.360 So are,

00:11:12.880 is there a lot of Mexican jockeys as well?

00:11:14.660 Oh yeah.

00:11:14.880 Yeah.

00:11:15.420 Really?

00:11:15.920 A lot of jockeys,

00:11:16.980 a lot of Latino jockeys,

00:11:19.240 a lot of Panamanians,

00:11:20.860 Puerto Ricans.

00:11:22.300 Huh.

00:11:22.880 Yeah.

00:11:23.060 So yeah,

00:11:24.300 it's because it's interesting that a lot of those guys are from Louisiana and then a lot

00:11:28.540 of them are from Mexico.

00:11:29.360 Why?

00:11:29.580 Because it's smaller stature?

00:11:31.520 I think so.

00:11:32.380 But there's really jockeys all over the place.

00:11:34.340 We have like Italian jockeys here right now.

00:11:36.740 We have a French jockeys,

00:11:39.020 you know,

00:11:39.580 I think it's like whoever is small enough to get jockeys.

00:11:42.860 Oh yeah.

00:11:43.460 So it's more about a size thing.

00:11:45.180 Not really.

00:11:45.600 It doesn't matter kind of where people are from.

00:11:47.180 Yeah.

00:11:47.320 So what is a typical size for a jockey?

00:11:51.360 Like what,

00:11:51.660 what is your size?

00:11:53.380 I'm 5'4".

00:11:54.400 Okay.

00:11:54.880 You're 5'4".

00:11:56.000 Yeah.

00:11:56.800 Height and then weight.

00:11:59.520 118,

00:12:00.520 117,

00:12:01.280 something like that.

00:12:02.240 Around there.

00:12:02.680 I always try to put myself there,

00:12:03.940 you know.

00:12:04.380 Okay.

00:12:05.080 So can you like,

00:12:06.140 you can't really just go and eat all week if you want.

00:12:08.860 You got to like,

00:12:09.480 diet is a main thing for you?

00:12:11.100 No.

00:12:11.560 I'm actually lucky.

00:12:12.760 Like it's not one of the main things,

00:12:14.280 you know.

00:12:14.460 Yes,

00:12:14.640 I had to watch,

00:12:15.400 but not too crazy.

00:12:16.760 You know,

00:12:16.860 there is some people that really struggle.

00:12:18.560 Like the taller you are,

00:12:19.740 the probably the more struggles you're going to have.

00:12:21.260 Because they're like,

00:12:21.920 there is a taller jockeys than I am.

00:12:23.520 Maybe like 5'8",

00:12:25.140 you know.

00:12:25.500 But if you 5'8",

00:12:26.620 you know,

00:12:27.000 then you're tall.

00:12:27.760 So you had to be so skinny.

00:12:30.260 Oh yeah.

00:12:30.860 So.

00:12:31.380 You can't,

00:12:31.920 you definitely.

00:12:32.840 Perfect size for the jockey.

00:12:34.240 Yeah.

00:12:34.900 What was your journey in a jockey?

00:12:36.500 And like,

00:12:36.700 how did it kind of start out for you?

00:12:38.240 Because it's such a unique,

00:12:39.760 I mean,

00:12:40.740 I was talking to a friend of mine the other day,

00:12:43.440 this guy,

00:12:44.140 Walker Bueller,

00:12:45.520 he plays for,

00:12:46.180 the Dodgers actually.

00:12:48.060 And he was on here a while back.

00:12:50.740 And he and I went to dinner the other night.

00:12:52.340 And he's telling me about,

00:12:53.640 he had a brother-in-law who was a jockey.

00:12:57.580 And Robbie Albarato is the guy's name.

00:13:00.140 And so he went,

00:13:01.920 so I was like,

00:13:03.740 maybe we should get a jockey

00:13:04.780 to come on the podcast and talk.

00:13:06.380 And then you and Nick spoke.

00:13:07.880 Yeah.

00:13:09.080 And so,

00:13:09.680 yeah,

00:13:09.820 man,

00:13:09.980 it's just fascinating to think,

00:13:11.540 to think of what that life is like

00:13:14.100 and what,

00:13:14.520 and who even does it.

00:13:16.140 Like,

00:13:16.760 so take me again a little bit more

00:13:18.020 like your fitness

00:13:18.660 and your size

00:13:19.440 and your weight.

00:13:20.160 What do you have to stay at?

00:13:22.100 I probably,

00:13:22.960 if you,

00:13:23.200 I had to stay like under like 117,

00:13:25.800 118,

00:13:26.580 117,

00:13:27.280 you know,

00:13:27.540 that in case that I have to reduce,

00:13:29.780 I don't have to reduce too much,

00:13:30.960 you know,

00:13:31.140 like if I have to ride horses

00:13:32.600 with like 118,

00:13:33.600 I only had to pull up two pounds

00:13:35.020 the day of the race,

00:13:35.960 you know,

00:13:36.520 something like that,

00:13:37.300 you know,

00:13:37.520 that I try to manage that

00:13:38.660 like really well.

00:13:40.220 Do they weigh you before the race?

00:13:41.800 Each race,

00:13:42.340 before each race,

00:13:43.000 they weigh you in.

00:13:43.560 Yeah.

00:13:44.100 And if you're over,

00:13:45.000 can the trainer,

00:13:46.080 the owner say,

00:13:46.840 we're going to get someone else?

00:13:48.440 I think we're only allowed to be,

00:13:50.540 you have to,

00:13:51.260 if I'm going to be,

00:13:52.980 if I think I'm not going to make that weight,

00:13:54.580 I had to report it like an hour earlier.

00:13:57.060 Okay.

00:13:57.560 Before the,

00:13:58.440 before the first race.

00:13:59.900 So if I already know that,

00:14:01.480 hey,

00:14:01.540 I can't make that weight,

00:14:02.500 I'm going to be one pound over.

00:14:03.480 I have to,

00:14:04.000 if I don't do that,

00:14:04.900 then yeah,

00:14:05.340 we get penalized.

00:14:06.280 Or I think,

00:14:07.000 yeah,

00:14:07.220 the trainer is allowed to say,

00:14:09.340 well,

00:14:09.600 I don't,

00:14:10.420 I need to replace my junkie.

00:14:11.820 So on the race day,

00:14:13.580 that's usually the same jockeys,

00:14:14.960 like on a scheduled day of races at like,

00:14:17.840 say at like,

00:14:19.740 Santa Anita,

00:14:22.060 right?

00:14:22.760 Santa Ana,

00:14:23.480 what is it?

00:14:23.840 Santa Anita.

00:14:24.460 Santa Anita,

00:14:25.020 right?

00:14:25.600 So on a scheduled day of races,

00:14:26.960 there may be like 10 races or something for the day.

00:14:29.380 Yeah.

00:14:29.720 Today are 11.

00:14:31.000 Wow.

00:14:31.280 So you're going to race 11 times?

00:14:32.560 No,

00:14:32.720 no,

00:14:32.920 I only ride four horses,

00:14:34.780 four races.

00:14:35.920 And is it every other race?

00:14:37.400 How do they put you guys in there?

00:14:39.060 It depends.

00:14:39.620 It's very complicated,

00:14:41.000 right?

00:14:41.200 Because like that is,

00:14:43.760 in the racing office,

00:14:44.720 they decide what race goes first,

00:14:46.420 what race goes second.

00:14:47.440 So it's like,

00:14:48.120 depends if,

00:14:49.260 you know,

00:14:51.080 depends where,

00:14:51.820 where I land,

00:14:52.460 you know,

00:14:52.660 I can ride the first four,

00:14:54.300 but then not necessarily like,

00:14:55.760 or I can run the first and third,

00:14:57.800 the six,

00:14:58.480 seven.

00:14:59.420 So do you ride for a specific trainer?

00:15:01.920 Do you ride on a specific horse?

00:15:03.580 Like how does,

00:15:05.060 who does the jockey work for?

00:15:07.180 I'm,

00:15:07.520 I'm very lucky that I ride for a specific owner.

00:15:10.840 Okay.

00:15:11.260 Yeah.

00:15:11.680 So you ride only on his horses.

00:15:13.640 I ride most,

00:15:14.560 all of his horses,

00:15:15.920 I ride.

00:15:16.640 Okay.

00:15:16.840 All of them.

00:15:17.340 And I,

00:15:17.620 that has been since 2012.

00:15:19.600 I'm very,

00:15:20.220 very lucky.

00:15:20.840 So,

00:15:21.360 and a very,

00:15:22.020 very sweet position that,

00:15:23.300 that,

00:15:23.640 that,

00:15:23.940 that way.

00:15:24.880 So I'm not specifically for the same trainer,

00:15:26.940 for the owner,

00:15:27.820 you know?

00:15:28.300 So,

00:15:28.900 so that's,

00:15:30.560 that's,

00:15:30.760 that's good for me.

00:15:32.020 Yeah.

00:15:32.280 He has a lot of horses.

00:15:33.440 So you have more like that,

00:15:34.300 that means you just have like more of a long-term or you just have work.

00:15:40.020 What's it called in it?

00:15:42.140 Work.

00:15:42.640 If you have the same job at a long time.

00:15:45.120 A tenure.

00:15:45.960 Yeah.

00:15:46.240 Or yeah,

00:15:46.500 you just have like some assurance.

00:15:48.340 You're more assured.

00:15:49.040 Like do you have a contract kind of?

00:15:50.680 It's like,

00:15:51.220 it's not like a real contract.

00:15:52.380 It's more like a spoken country,

00:15:53.660 you know,

00:15:53.840 like a,

00:15:54.220 like a French,

00:15:55.820 like he's been so loyal to me and I've been loyal to him.

00:15:58.500 So like,

00:15:58.940 it's just like a partnership,

00:16:00.660 partnership that is,

00:16:01.920 can't continue.

00:16:02.640 We had early success in 2012.

00:16:04.640 I think that's what,

00:16:05.480 what spark it.

00:16:06.500 Yeah.

00:16:06.940 Yeah.

00:16:07.280 Some job security.

00:16:08.180 Yeah.

00:16:08.440 So,

00:16:08.660 so then,

00:16:10.940 so when you get on the horse,

00:16:13.340 you're on the horse and you take the horse out to the,

00:16:15.800 what?

00:16:16.620 To the racetrack?

00:16:17.480 To like the voting booth that I'm talking about?

00:16:19.220 Like the thing?

00:16:19.300 Oh,

00:16:19.520 the paddock.

00:16:20.460 That we call it the paddock.

00:16:21.720 Oh,

00:16:21.740 the paddock is the circle,

00:16:22.820 right?

00:16:23.040 The little circle where like,

00:16:24.220 you know,

00:16:24.440 the horses run,

00:16:25.720 before we get in top of the horses,

00:16:27.700 they like,

00:16:28.180 you know,

00:16:28.480 there's like the people can look at them,

00:16:30.960 you know,

00:16:31.600 if you're going to bet,

00:16:32.560 you're like,

00:16:32.900 the gamut,

00:16:33.500 I go,

00:16:33.800 look,

00:16:34.040 that's when I go.

00:16:34.760 You're going to look and see which horse you like.

00:16:36.640 And you can look at them.

00:16:37.900 Then,

00:16:38.180 then the trainers like,

00:16:39.980 like put,

00:16:40.600 like put us on the horse.

00:16:41.520 And then we go to the racetrack and do the warm,

00:16:44.000 the pre-warmout before the,

00:16:45.360 before the race.

00:16:46.400 Okay.

00:16:46.800 So if I'm a batter,

00:16:47.900 right?

00:16:48.880 Which Nick is,

00:16:50.020 but if I'm a batter and I go to the paddock,

00:16:53.140 is there anything I can look for as a batter that can give me any sort of insight as to how the.

00:16:59.340 The only thing that I can,

00:17:01.440 that I can,

00:17:02.040 that I can,

00:17:02.480 that I can give you a tip sort of,

00:17:05.040 you know,

00:17:05.260 try to look for horses.

00:17:06.800 They're not too nervous or sweaty,

00:17:08.460 you know,

00:17:08.720 because they're usually are like,

00:17:10.340 they're not going to perform well.

00:17:12.080 Like most of those horses are like,

00:17:13.640 you know,

00:17:13.900 they're too nervous and so sweaty.

00:17:16.500 They're already spending a lot of energy,

00:17:19.940 you know,

00:17:20.380 being,

00:17:20.780 being like,

00:17:21.580 so.

00:17:23.060 That sweaty horse,

00:17:24.400 dude.

00:17:25.700 And besides that,

00:17:27.340 I'm,

00:17:27.880 I'm horrible.

00:17:28.480 My wife told me like never to say,

00:17:30.560 to give her any tips about horse racing because she always loses.

00:17:34.000 No,

00:17:34.220 does she like to bet or no?

00:17:35.640 She does.

00:17:36.340 Once in a while,

00:17:36.920 I'd be like,

00:17:37.280 oh my God,

00:17:37.660 I'm training this horse that I really,

00:17:39.520 really like,

00:17:39.940 you know,

00:17:40.140 you should put some,

00:17:41.020 some,

00:17:41.560 some money on him,

00:17:42.420 you know,

00:17:42.660 and then the horse will run third or fourth and then you'll be like,

00:17:46.700 I don't want no more of your tips.

00:17:50.080 So you get out there,

00:17:51.180 you go out for the warmup and the warmup is what?

00:17:53.680 It's just kind of like a little trot or it's like.

00:17:55.760 Trot or gallop,

00:17:56.560 you know,

00:17:56.860 try to like get the,

00:17:57.940 get the flow going on the horses,

00:17:59.800 you know,

00:18:00.060 and then try to warm up everything,

00:18:02.420 you know,

00:18:02.680 before like,

00:18:03.340 cause now they're,

00:18:04.420 when it's time to race,

00:18:05.280 you're going to,

00:18:05.760 you're going to ask them to do their best,

00:18:07.880 you know?

00:18:08.180 Yeah.

00:18:08.900 And can a horse stretch?

00:18:10.160 Can you tell a horse to stretch or they just stretch if they want to?

00:18:14.260 You can stretch the horses.

00:18:15.540 You can,

00:18:15.920 like there's,

00:18:16.360 like you can,

00:18:16.860 you can do,

00:18:17.500 they,

00:18:17.740 they have chiropractors,

00:18:19.040 they have massage therapists,

00:18:20.320 the horses.

00:18:20.860 Really?

00:18:21.280 Yeah.

00:18:22.220 Dude,

00:18:22.500 what kind of pervert was standing there and just massage a horse leg all day?

00:18:25.500 I don't know.

00:18:26.240 You had to,

00:18:26.980 you had to ask one of those guys to do that.

00:18:28.980 That's what we need to get in here.

00:18:31.560 Can you imagine just standing there all day and trying not to get an erection?

00:18:36.860 That would be the hardest thing I feel like.

00:18:39.200 Even if you were straight male and you,

00:18:41.060 you and the,

00:18:41.480 and the horse is straight,

00:18:42.680 I think it would just be so hard not to.

00:18:46.140 How,

00:18:46.660 how strong are these animals?

00:18:48.960 They can be pretty strong.

00:18:50.040 There are horses that can be like so nice,

00:18:53.960 you know,

00:18:54.280 in terms to like,

00:18:55.480 you can like pretty much do anything with them.

00:18:58.060 Like they obey,

00:18:59.900 you know,

00:19:00.200 like you can one hand,

00:19:01.280 you can maneuver,

00:19:02.240 you know,

00:19:02.560 and there are some horses that are like you,

00:19:04.520 two hands,

00:19:05.720 all you weigh,

00:19:06.640 all you can pull and there's still like no listening to you.

00:19:10.380 So it's tricky,

00:19:11.380 you know,

00:19:11.580 just like people,

00:19:12.300 I guess,

00:19:12.620 huh?

00:19:13.720 Yeah.

00:19:13.900 They are like people.

00:19:14.660 So smart.

00:19:15.460 Do they feel like,

00:19:16.240 do horses seem like people?

00:19:17.660 Like the more time you've spent around horses,

00:19:19.320 do they seem like people?

00:19:20.560 Do they seem like,

00:19:22.140 is there another animal that you kind of relate them to?

00:19:25.960 Do you feel like you actually can have like a connection with the horse?

00:19:29.720 What is it like?

00:19:30.320 Cause I've always been a little bit probably afraid of horses,

00:19:32.740 I guess.

00:19:33.860 Cause we never went around any horses growing up,

00:19:36.440 you know,

00:19:36.700 like we would see some,

00:19:37.760 but,

00:19:38.460 and like feed them apples and stuff through the fence.

00:19:40.540 But I never like spent time around them,

00:19:43.780 you know?

00:19:44.420 Oh,

00:19:44.640 horses are super smart.

00:19:46.880 I think that's,

00:19:48.360 yeah,

00:19:48.580 like the more time you spend with,

00:19:50.460 with a horse,

00:19:51.160 you know,

00:19:51.400 the more you get to know them and the more you establish a connection.

00:19:54.620 And then like,

00:19:55.940 once you establish a connection,

00:19:57.220 it's like,

00:19:57.780 it's like having a dog,

00:19:58.840 you know,

00:19:59.040 you love that animal.

00:20:00.460 It's just like,

00:20:01.220 it's a strong bone that you,

00:20:02.820 that you,

00:20:03.120 that you,

00:20:04.460 that you have with this horse,

00:20:05.780 you know?

00:20:06.020 So yeah,

00:20:06.340 like time,

00:20:06.980 the more time you spend with,

00:20:08.400 with,

00:20:08.580 with the horses is like,

00:20:09.840 it's hard not to love,

00:20:11.460 not to fall in love with them.

00:20:12.540 Yeah.

00:20:12.800 Just like a dog.

00:20:13.700 Just like a dog.

00:20:14.680 Yeah.

00:20:15.100 Yeah.

00:20:16.020 And they're very therapeutic because you can,

00:20:17.980 like my wife has a pony that we can use it to trail ride,

00:20:21.400 you know?

00:20:21.960 And then like,

00:20:22.740 if you're having a bad day,

00:20:24.060 you know,

00:20:24.640 or when,

00:20:25.200 when I'm having a bad day or like,

00:20:26.880 I have too many,

00:20:27.880 too much thinking on my head,

00:20:29.280 I go,

00:20:29.760 I saw him,

00:20:30.360 I take him to the trails in the mountains in Altadena.

00:20:32.840 And it's just so therapeutic.

00:20:35.240 It's just like,

00:20:35.840 so cool and relaxing.

00:20:37.820 I should live on one of those.

00:20:39.200 That's what I need.

00:20:39.920 I should be tied around one of those.

00:20:42.020 I need some therapy.

00:20:43.100 I need some therapy,

00:20:44.080 man.

00:20:45.780 So you get out there,

00:20:47.320 you back to the race,

00:20:48.300 you get,

00:20:48.740 then you get in the cage,

00:20:49.920 right?

00:20:50.220 Or actually,

00:20:51.020 we had a,

00:20:51.340 the gate,

00:20:51.620 the gate.

00:20:52.080 We had a question that came in right here from a,

00:20:53.800 from a user for you right here.

00:20:56.240 Not a user.

00:20:57.260 Look,

00:20:57.680 I'm not judging the guy.

00:20:58.900 He does look like maybe he's been up late.

00:21:00.840 Yeah.

00:21:01.040 He looks like maybe he's been up a little late,

00:21:02.760 but it also looks like John Cusack's brother.

00:21:05.840 What's up,

00:21:06.360 Mario?

00:21:06.900 Quick question.

00:21:08.420 Are there jockey groupies,

00:21:10.760 like chicks that travel around?

00:21:12.380 So when you win the Kentucky Derby,

00:21:13.980 you're golden for a couple of weeks.

00:21:17.620 Yeah.

00:21:18.060 What's that like?

00:21:18.780 Are there kind of like,

00:21:19.860 uh,

00:21:20.480 did you meet your wife through the races?

00:21:23.380 What's up,

00:21:23.720 I did.

00:21:25.460 Uh,

00:21:26.840 yes,

00:21:27.260 I think my,

00:21:27.800 my,

00:21:28.260 uh,

00:21:28.720 my,

00:21:29.020 I met my wife because,

00:21:30.260 uh,

00:21:30.420 my father-in-law at the time when I,

00:21:31.960 I went to Canada,

00:21:33.180 I met my wife in Canada.

00:21:34.640 Oh,

00:21:34.840 she's Canadian?

00:21:35.420 Yeah,

00:21:35.580 she's Canadian.

00:21:36.200 Canadians are awesome.

00:21:37.100 Yeah.

00:21:37.580 So,

00:21:38.120 um,

00:21:40.100 her dad used to own some horses.

00:21:42.640 Um,

00:21:43.400 and that's how true,

00:21:44.620 I met her family first and she,

00:21:47.240 she was studying in Victoria,

00:21:48.680 Canada.

00:21:48.960 So I didn't meet her until like two years after that,

00:21:51.500 after I was in Canada.

00:21:52.880 Oh,

00:21:53.000 so the family already liked you.

00:21:54.300 Oh yeah.

00:21:54.760 They love me.

00:21:55.700 They still love me.

00:21:56.640 They love me more than they do.

00:21:57.560 Then they let you,

00:21:58.240 then they let you ride their horse.

00:22:01.540 Um,

00:22:02.180 but yeah,

00:22:02.560 I think,

00:22:02.940 uh,

00:22:03.160 to the question.

00:22:03.900 Yeah.

00:22:04.020 I think that in any sports,

00:22:05.520 I think that any sport has like,

00:22:07.460 like some groupies.

00:22:08.300 I think so.

00:22:09.000 Yeah.

00:22:09.200 Yeah.

00:22:09.400 That's cool,

00:22:10.000 man.

00:22:11.060 Um,

00:22:11.960 what type of,

00:22:12.880 like,

00:22:13.920 who are the owners these days?

00:22:15.640 Like a lot of times when I think of horse owners,

00:22:17.520 I think of like a rich old white guy kind of,

00:22:20.060 is that still kind of the,

00:22:21.500 and no judgment against it,

00:22:23.140 but is that still like the type of person that owns horses?

00:22:27.300 Do you like,

00:22:28.360 or is there all types?

00:22:29.320 Yeah.

00:22:29.460 I think of this guy,

00:22:30.260 whoever this guy is.

00:22:31.080 And I don't even,

00:22:31.760 we don't know who this guy is,

00:22:33.180 but that's who we think of.

00:22:34.860 Is this,

00:22:35.600 does this look like every owner kind of,

00:22:37.260 or is it all types of people?

00:22:38.760 It's all types of like,

00:22:39.780 well,

00:22:39.940 they basically,

00:22:40.680 whoever owns a horse is like,

00:22:41.920 they have money.

00:22:43.080 Right.

00:22:43.240 They have a lot of money.

00:22:43.780 Okay.

00:22:43.980 So it's someone that has expendable income.

00:22:45.560 They can get a horse.

00:22:46.140 Yes.

00:22:46.500 So like,

00:22:47.020 I don't think necessarily it has to be white,

00:22:48.800 but it needs,

00:22:50.500 it needs to have some cash.

00:22:51.780 So they need to have some cash.

00:22:52.780 Yeah.

00:22:53.100 Do they ever have groups out there where you,

00:22:55.760 where you feel like it's a,

00:22:57.420 like it's a setup,

00:22:59.080 like they have like a shady owner,

00:23:00.560 or it seems like a little weird,

00:23:02.060 like,

00:23:02.840 like the,

00:23:03.480 like maybe they're just trying to drug a horse and get it through.

00:23:06.380 Does that ever happen?

00:23:07.360 Or did it used to happen?

00:23:08.740 Do you ever notice anything like that?

00:23:10.680 Well,

00:23:10.980 I,

00:23:11.240 I don't,

00:23:12.520 like,

00:23:12.820 I don't,

00:23:13.520 that I don't know specifically,

00:23:15.240 specifically,

00:23:16.180 no,

00:23:16.420 you know,

00:23:16.700 like,

00:23:17.260 say that again,

00:23:18.440 you know,

00:23:18.680 because like,

00:23:19.260 like,

00:23:19.660 like a group or like,

00:23:20.900 like,

00:23:21.360 I guess,

00:23:21.840 do you ever see like,

00:23:23.080 is there ever like,

00:23:24.100 like a owner,

00:23:27.560 trainer,

00:23:28.160 kind of a,

00:23:28.780 a team?

00:23:29.900 A team.

00:23:30.460 Oh,

00:23:30.740 a team that try to do shady shit.

00:23:33.100 Yeah,

00:23:33.620 often.

00:23:34.240 And it's just like,

00:23:34.860 and maybe you've seen them over the years and they come and gone or whatever,

00:23:37.480 but has there ever,

00:23:38.260 is there a lot of that going on or is stuff pretty right?

00:23:40.940 Like,

00:23:41.140 is it?

00:23:42.100 Maybe back in the days will happen a lot.

00:23:44.480 And no,

00:23:44.960 not in racetracks,

00:23:45.960 like,

00:23:46.240 like,

00:23:46.560 like Santa Anita,

00:23:47.560 that will,

00:23:48.080 that will be considered like a,

00:23:49.420 like a,

00:23:49.720 like a,

00:23:50.340 in,

00:23:50.900 um,

00:23:54.800 it will be,

00:23:55.360 Santa Anita will be considered like,

00:23:56.900 you know,

00:23:57.140 like one of the top racetracks,

00:23:58.520 Santa Anita,

00:23:59.100 New York,

00:23:59.500 Kentucky,

00:24:00.160 you know,

00:24:00.420 like an prestigious,

00:24:02.420 you know,

00:24:02.600 like a,

00:24:02.920 like an elite or like an A racetrack,

00:24:05.440 like an A racetrack.

00:24:06.420 And then you,

00:24:06.900 you have B racetracks,

00:24:08.140 C racetracks,

00:24:08.820 you know,

00:24:09.300 and I probably,

00:24:10.140 probably will cure more into like,

00:24:12.140 like small racetracks where there is not a lot of,

00:24:14.180 your restriction or no,

00:24:15.500 not a lot of people watching.

00:24:16.800 Like,

00:24:17.100 I wouldn't be surprised if that,

00:24:18.460 those type of things happen there.

00:24:19.640 Oh,

00:24:19.800 it gets a little more seedier the way,

00:24:21.380 the further you go to.

00:24:23.040 Yeah.

00:24:23.500 Maybe like,

00:24:24.260 for example,

00:24:24.640 like UFC,

00:24:25.500 I watch a lot of fights,

00:24:26.460 you know,

00:24:26.640 like UFC now with USAT and everything is like cracking,

00:24:29.500 down and things like that.

00:24:30.480 But the more you go to the lesser organization,

00:24:32.600 well,

00:24:32.820 maybe they're not as tight,

00:24:33.920 you know,

00:24:34.160 so.

00:24:34.520 Oh,

00:24:34.760 the urine,

00:24:35.220 you could drink it.

00:24:36.020 I feel like off of half these guys,

00:24:37.340 you know what I'm saying?

00:24:38.200 I'd have had a glass of whatever Anderson Silva had in them,

00:24:40.780 I think.

00:24:41.500 I mean,

00:24:41.800 they just had,

00:24:42.340 yeah,

00:24:42.600 it's definitely a lot cleaner these days.

00:24:45.380 Who are some of the fighters you like?

00:24:47.420 Oh,

00:24:47.720 I like a bunch.

00:24:48.740 You do?

00:24:48.940 I like Nate,

00:24:49.660 the Nick brothers.

00:24:50.540 Yeah,

00:24:51.040 that Nate was crazy,

00:24:52.280 huh?

00:24:52.440 to love,

00:24:52.960 yeah.

00:24:53.800 I wish Nick fought more,

00:24:55.360 man.

00:24:55.980 I know,

00:24:56.400 I don't know what's up with him.

00:24:57.380 I wish,

00:24:57.800 I wish too.

00:24:58.740 I know.

00:24:59.360 I get it.

00:24:59.780 I just don't want him to get older and then wish he had fought more when he was younger,

00:25:04.340 you know?

00:25:05.240 But you never know with those guys,

00:25:06.520 right?

00:25:06.720 They really seem so genuine,

00:25:08.940 you know,

00:25:09.240 that like,

00:25:10.420 the way I look at him,

00:25:11.820 I don't think that will occur to him,

00:25:14.000 you know?

00:25:14.760 Yeah,

00:25:14.920 that's a good point.

00:25:15.660 He lives like,

00:25:16.880 you know,

00:25:17.200 he does what he wants,

00:25:18.280 it seems like,

00:25:19.140 so.

00:25:19.500 I think they definitely do what they want,

00:25:21.340 no doubt.

00:25:23.160 Yeah,

00:25:23.580 did you see that fight the other night with Edwards?

00:25:25.520 Yeah.

00:25:25.980 That was good,

00:25:26.520 huh?

00:25:26.620 Yeah.

00:25:27.180 I was like,

00:25:27.680 come on,

00:25:28.540 go for the kill,

00:25:29.580 you know?

00:25:29.620 And he's just pointing at him.

00:25:30.420 And he's pointing at him,

00:25:31.540 and I'm like,

00:25:32.020 my wife is yelling,

00:25:33.200 I'm yelling,

00:25:33.920 my son is looking at us like,

00:25:35.280 what the heck is going on with you guys?

00:25:37.180 Yeah.

00:25:37.700 And I'm yelling,

00:25:38.660 go for it.

00:25:38.680 And you don't even have a son,

00:25:40.000 so it was like,

00:25:40.780 way insane.

00:25:43.300 Yeah,

00:25:43.700 that was magical,

00:25:44.740 man.

00:25:45.000 Yeah.

00:25:45.660 What do you think about the,

00:25:46.960 did you see the last Poirier-McGregor fight?

00:25:49.480 Yeah,

00:25:49.840 I was surprised,

00:25:50.780 I was surprised that,

00:25:51.860 how fairly easy Poirier beat McGregor.

00:25:55.920 Yeah.

00:25:56.240 I think McGregor beats him this time.

00:25:58.420 You think so?

00:25:58.860 I think so.

00:25:59.940 I feel like it's,

00:26:01.620 I mean,

00:26:02.200 I definitely don't think that,

00:26:03.320 but I think it's hard to come,

00:26:05.120 I just think it's hard to like,

00:26:07.000 get that mentality,

00:26:08.980 you know?

00:26:09.680 Oh,

00:26:09.960 but unless he doesn't have that anymore,

00:26:12.180 you know?

00:26:12.580 I will blame the first,

00:26:14.100 the first fight until like,

00:26:15.200 you know,

00:26:15.440 he's like,

00:26:15.840 you know,

00:26:16.600 long time hasn't fight,

00:26:18.000 you know,

00:26:18.340 and then like,

00:26:19.160 that's what I think,

00:26:20.920 you know,

00:26:21.120 but,

00:26:21.680 and I'll relate it again to horses.

00:26:23.280 There is some horses that,

00:26:25.160 you know,

00:26:25.540 the very good horses that undefeated,

00:26:28.140 like they can win one,

00:26:29.680 two,

00:26:30.120 three,

00:26:30.440 four,

00:26:30.760 five races in a row.

00:26:31.660 And the moment they touch the feet,

00:26:33.620 the moment somebody,

00:26:34.680 so other horse pass them,

00:26:36.320 they never the same.

00:26:37.480 Really?

00:26:37.980 Yeah.

00:26:38.640 So that thing happens to fighters too,

00:26:40.720 you know,

00:26:40.940 the more,

00:26:41.460 you know,

00:26:41.700 they feel this thing and all of a sudden the,

00:26:43.840 you know,

00:26:44.080 two,

00:26:44.220 three losses and yeah,

00:26:45.420 like mess up with it.

00:26:47.000 Happens to comedians too,

00:26:48.200 man.

00:26:48.500 Happened to me.

00:26:50.420 But no,

00:26:51.080 that's so interesting.

00:26:52.040 So you,

00:26:52.480 there's,

00:26:52.740 there can be like a moment that happened in a race,

00:26:54.960 like in a big race where another horse passes it and it's never the same.

00:26:58.480 Yeah.

00:26:59.040 Yeah.

00:26:59.220 For horses,

00:26:59.880 it happened to me,

00:27:01.020 it happened to a very good horse that I had.

00:27:02.900 Really?

00:27:03.340 Yeah.

00:27:03.620 Which one was it?

00:27:04.420 What was it?

00:27:04.720 Nyquist 2016,

00:27:06.520 Kentucky Derby winner.

00:27:07.760 Right.

00:27:07.960 And so that's the,

00:27:08.840 and so let's see.

00:27:09.780 Yeah.

00:27:09.860 So take me back to like,

00:27:11.660 I mean,

00:27:11.960 you had just started racing,

00:27:14.400 right?

00:27:15.180 You'd been racing in,

00:27:16.380 or you had just been racing in where in California for a year?

00:27:19.280 Not even a year.

00:27:20.100 After you won?

00:27:21.280 No,

00:27:21.600 no,

00:27:21.800 no.

00:27:22.060 I mean,

00:27:22.460 I mean my first Kentucky,

00:27:24.000 I was lucky enough to get my first Kentucky Derby back in 2012.

00:27:27.580 And then I was racing in Canada.

00:27:29.480 Okay.

00:27:29.900 On 2011,

00:27:32.240 the races,

00:27:33.720 the racing,

00:27:34.500 the racing season finished in September of 2012.

00:27:38.940 So usually I will come down to San Francisco and ride in San Francisco in the winter.

00:27:45.320 And then,

00:27:45.940 but for whatever reason,

00:27:47.120 they didn't want to give stalls to my Canadian stable that I was with at the time.

00:27:52.800 Okay.

00:27:53.100 So they reached out to Santanita and Santanita was like,

00:27:55.980 yeah,

00:27:56.080 we'll give you some,

00:27:57.140 some stable so you can,

00:27:58.860 you can run here your horses.

00:28:00.000 So that's how I ended up in LA,

00:28:03.100 you know,

00:28:03.320 in Santanita in late 2011.

00:28:06.820 So that was your first time getting to Los Angeles?

00:28:08.980 To Los Angeles.

00:28:09.440 Yeah.

00:28:10.140 And then that was like,

00:28:11.260 yeah,

00:28:11.500 October,

00:28:13.040 November,

00:28:13.820 December,

00:28:14.460 January,

00:28:14.900 and four months.

00:28:16.020 Then I was,

00:28:17.120 I was,

00:28:17.640 I got introduced to,

00:28:19.420 to,

00:28:19.560 to,

00:28:19.700 to have another,

00:28:20.520 which went in and,

00:28:21.760 and won the Kentucky Derby.

00:28:22.920 Yeah.

00:28:23.440 Yeah.

00:28:23.680 Yeah.

00:28:23.800 You won twice,

00:28:24.320 right?

00:28:25.680 He won the Kentucky and then he won the Prigness.

00:28:28.160 Yeah.

00:28:28.540 But you won.

00:28:29.300 I won the,

00:28:29.920 yeah,

00:28:30.080 I won 2011,

00:28:31.400 2012 and then 2016.

00:28:34.700 So was there like a,

00:28:36.580 is there like a rookie year for riders?

00:28:39.220 Yeah.

00:28:39.760 Yeah.

00:28:40.060 Apprentice.

00:28:40.720 We call,

00:28:40.980 we call,

00:28:41.320 we are called Apprentice when we are,

00:28:43.420 our first year,

00:28:45.540 when they,

00:28:46.420 we get the license to be a professional rider,

00:28:48.640 then our first year we call Apprentice.

00:28:50.440 And then with that,

00:28:51.660 that we are allowed to raise 10 pounds lighter than the professional jockey.

00:28:57.640 So if a professional jockey is what?

00:28:59.840 118?

00:29:00.820 118,

00:29:01.400 then you get,

00:29:01.940 you're allowed to run your horse with 108.

00:29:04.020 You know,

00:29:04.320 you could ride on 108.

00:29:05.420 Yeah.

00:29:06.020 I can't anymore.

00:29:07.580 I used to.

00:29:08.660 You didn't even chew gum.

00:29:09.600 Yeah.

00:29:09.780 Yeah.

00:29:10.120 No,

00:29:10.400 I can't anymore.

00:29:11.480 I used to when I was 18 years old.

00:29:13.700 Yeah.

00:29:13.960 Oh,

00:29:14.260 so what phases,

00:29:15.400 what phases a jockey out of the job?

00:29:19.020 Well,

00:29:19.500 I think that's like fighters,

00:29:21.780 you know,

00:29:22.080 like your,

00:29:22.660 your body will tell you or,

00:29:24.960 or unfortunate or an accident,

00:29:26.640 unfortunate accident that can end your career at any moment.

00:29:30.800 Does that happen sometimes?

00:29:31.700 I mean,

00:29:31.880 any moment.

00:29:32.640 Yeah,

00:29:32.660 no,

00:29:32.800 yeah,

00:29:32.980 no,

00:29:33.260 yeah.

00:29:33.520 A little M. Night Shyamalan there.

00:29:35.760 Does it,

00:29:36.700 and does it happen?

00:29:37.800 Does that happen?

00:29:38.960 Sorry.

00:29:39.300 I have so many questions right now.

00:29:40.500 It's okay.

00:29:41.480 Okay,

00:29:42.000 cool.

00:29:42.760 So does that,

00:29:44.960 yeah,

00:29:45.220 take me through some of the dangers.

00:29:46.920 What is some of that danger?

00:29:47.820 Like if you have a,

00:29:48.780 like,

00:29:49.420 is it like a,

00:29:50.160 like a,

00:29:50.840 how can you get hurt?

00:29:51.780 How can you get,

00:29:53.060 I mean,

00:29:53.400 I don't even get thrown off of the horse.

00:29:54.740 That's probably the biggest fear.

00:29:56.000 Yeah,

00:29:56.240 that's probably the biggest fear.

00:29:58.900 The biggest fear for me is probably like getting,

00:30:01.740 getting thrown off of a horse.

00:30:03.680 If I'm like in the,

00:30:05.180 in the first,

00:30:06.160 in the front runners,

00:30:07.680 because then you have,

00:30:08.960 you know,

00:30:09.240 for sure you have people coming behind you,

00:30:11.320 you know?

00:30:11.580 And like I said,

00:30:12.440 these are like 12,

00:30:13.320 200 pound animals.

00:30:15.100 Some bad drivers too.

00:30:16.280 Yeah.

00:30:16.540 You don't want,

00:30:17.420 you don't want none of them to catch you midair or like on the floor.

00:30:21.180 Yeah.

00:30:21.460 That's probably.

00:30:22.360 So that's almost one of the scary parts I bet about taking the lead is that

00:30:25.680 it's somewhere in your head.

00:30:26.660 You're like,

00:30:27.000 now if something bad happens,

00:30:28.700 all these horses are going to come up behind you.

00:30:30.220 Yeah.

00:30:30.380 But you don't think,

00:30:31.080 I think like the moment that you start,

00:30:32.760 that you had those thoughts,

00:30:34.160 that's probably a good,

00:30:35.300 a good time to retire.

00:30:36.700 Oh,

00:30:36.980 yeah.

00:30:37.300 If you're like going in the front and you're thinking about,

00:30:39.520 Oh my God,

00:30:40.000 you know,

00:30:40.300 like,

00:30:40.560 yeah,

00:30:40.640 no,

00:30:42.360 you should be focusing on how to win the race.

00:30:44.760 Yeah.

00:30:44.960 I think the moment you start having those type of thoughts,

00:30:47.000 I think you should call it quits.

00:30:48.440 That would be me.

00:30:49.200 I'd be like,

00:30:49.420 you guys go on ahead.

00:30:52.220 How,

00:30:52.840 how,

00:30:53.780 okay.

00:30:54.140 So you get into the paddock,

00:30:55.820 you get,

00:30:56.180 or you get into the gate,

00:30:57.720 right?

00:30:58.560 Is that what it's called?

00:30:58.880 After the warmup,

00:30:59.480 yeah,

00:30:59.560 the gate that we're at.

00:31:00.260 So after the warmup,

00:31:01.060 you guys,

00:31:01.520 cause yeah,

00:31:01.860 I'm always wondering whenever I'm there betting or whatever,

00:31:04.180 I'm like,

00:31:04.540 Jesus,

00:31:05.040 what are we doing?

00:31:05.320 It takes forever.

00:31:06.420 I got one guy and then the guy in the pink hat comes out.

00:31:09.400 I'm like,

00:31:09.660 why is the guy wearing the pink?

00:31:10.960 I don't even know what's going on.

00:31:12.000 I feel like it's a gender reveal.

00:31:14.340 But then finally they get everybody lined up.

00:31:17.920 Is it easier to be the first horse that gets lined up in there or the last horse?

00:31:22.200 Or does it even matter?

00:31:23.680 Yeah,

00:31:23.800 I think it does matter.

00:31:24.780 I,

00:31:25.020 I particularly would like to like loan last,

00:31:28.740 but you don't always,

00:31:30.880 but we don't choose that.

00:31:31.880 It's like,

00:31:32.260 it's like whoever number you have is by numbers.

00:31:34.440 So whoever is like,

00:31:35.340 you know,

00:31:35.620 if you have the seven,

00:31:36.880 eight,

00:31:37.120 nine,

00:31:37.440 10,

00:31:37.740 you know,

00:31:38.000 you're probably going to be put in the gate last.

00:31:41.440 Right.

00:31:41.840 So I prefer that,

00:31:43.420 you know,

00:31:43.620 because then my horse doesn't have too much time to think inside the gate.

00:31:47.520 It's just basically go ready.

00:31:49.060 Go.

00:31:49.680 Yeah.

00:31:50.620 And so once your horse is in the gate,

00:31:52.580 what are you doing in there?

00:31:54.260 Like,

00:31:55.160 um,

00:31:55.620 I see you brought a,

00:31:56.840 is this a saddle?

00:31:57.720 Yes,

00:31:57.920 a saddle.

00:31:58.400 Yeah.

00:31:58.540 That's what we use to ride them.

00:32:00.040 Can I pick it up?

00:32:00.620 Yeah,

00:32:00.880 you can pick it up.

00:32:02.300 Dang,

00:32:03.060 dude.

00:32:03.840 This is the lingerie of saddles,

00:32:06.200 huh?

00:32:06.900 My God.

00:32:08.560 Japanese saddle.

00:32:09.540 Is it?

00:32:09.960 Yeah.

00:32:10.740 Wow.

00:32:11.520 Shout out to Japan.

00:32:12.620 Yeah.

00:32:13.040 Shout out to Japan,

00:32:13.880 dude.

00:32:14.180 Very ironic that they are,

00:32:16.200 have a driving instrument.

00:32:18.600 That they have put together.

00:32:20.700 No shade,

00:32:21.760 but that's wild.

00:32:22.680 So how does this even?

00:32:25.140 I know,

00:32:25.560 right?

00:32:25.900 I think I'd just rather wear a thick underpants.

00:32:28.140 I'd be like,

00:32:28.520 this is so small.

00:32:30.060 Yeah.

00:32:30.380 So this goes towards the front of the horse.

00:32:32.340 Mm-hmm.

00:32:33.300 And you,

00:32:34.440 uh,

00:32:35.480 and what is this?

00:32:36.320 What is it?

00:32:36.800 These are for your feet?

00:32:37.320 Yeah.

00:32:38.200 No.

00:32:38.660 Yeah.

00:32:40.160 Oh my gosh.

00:32:43.160 And this is yours,

00:32:44.200 MG right here.

00:32:45.000 Yeah,

00:32:45.220 MG.

00:32:45.620 Yeah.

00:32:45.840 Oh,

00:32:46.020 that's cool,

00:32:46.600 man.

00:32:48.020 Um,

00:32:49.200 so,

00:32:50.380 and this is about,

00:32:51.660 is,

00:32:51.900 this is a pretty commonplace,

00:32:53.560 uh,

00:32:54.920 saddle.

00:32:55.640 Yeah.

00:32:56.020 That would probably like most of,

00:32:57.420 yeah.

00:32:57.980 Unless you go like,

00:32:59.120 there is a little bit bigger saddles and they actually way smaller saddles.

00:33:03.360 Really?

00:33:03.680 This is probably like midsize saddle,

00:33:05.400 you know?

00:33:05.660 Okay.

00:33:05.960 There is like,

00:33:07.340 there is some saddles that probably like weigh one pound.

00:33:09.760 For like people,

00:33:10.860 like jockeys,

00:33:11.840 the struggle with weight.

00:33:13.640 Oh,

00:33:14.000 really?

00:33:14.740 They're basically just stirrups and,

00:33:16.460 and,

00:33:16.760 and that little tiny thing.

00:33:18.420 Yeah.

00:33:19.040 That's insane.

00:33:20.180 Honestly,

00:33:20.740 like it probably is like this big.

00:33:23.200 Some chubby jockey rolls in there.

00:33:25.860 Yeah.

00:33:26.540 Like,

00:33:27.020 okay.

00:33:27.540 And so this hooks into the belts that go.

00:33:29.820 The girds.

00:33:30.260 Yeah.

00:33:30.420 Yeah.

00:33:30.520 Like,

00:33:30.660 it's like a,

00:33:31.540 like a,

00:33:32.000 like elastic band,

00:33:33.140 you know,

00:33:33.400 we call them girds,

00:33:34.280 you know,

00:33:34.580 that's what.

00:33:35.420 Okay.

00:33:35.760 So you're out there,

00:33:36.780 you get on the,

00:33:37.460 you have the saddle,

00:33:38.280 you're on the horse and you're in the gate.

00:33:39.960 And then what happens,

00:33:40.940 what are you doing while you're in the gate to keep the horse ready to race?

00:33:43.860 We just try to do your best and to like,

00:33:47.260 just have a,

00:33:48.240 we have another person that is kind of like helping you manage the horse while you're in the gate.

00:33:52.220 And this happens more than maybe like 15 seconds you're in the gate,

00:33:56.180 you know,

00:33:56.420 20 seconds,

00:33:57.180 25 seconds the most,

00:33:58.180 you know?

00:33:58.420 So for that time you have a person kind of helping you control the horse and kind of like make sure he's looking forward.

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00:37:10.100 And so once the gate opens,

00:37:12.780 what is the first thing?

00:37:13.660 Does the horse automatically know to go?

00:37:16.120 Yeah.

00:37:16.460 They know to go,

00:37:17.380 and then sometimes you have to encourage them,

00:37:19.260 you know,

00:37:19.580 and then whoever the plan,

00:37:21.820 whatever the plan was with the trainer,

00:37:25.080 whatever the trainer told you,

00:37:26.180 like,

00:37:26.420 hey,

00:37:26.560 I want you to be in the front.

00:37:27.620 I want you to be,

00:37:28.500 you know,

00:37:29.640 mid-pack,

00:37:30.540 you know,

00:37:31.140 let two,

00:37:31.680 three horses go.

00:37:32.660 I want you to be last,

00:37:33.620 you know,

00:37:33.840 then right away,

00:37:34.880 then you try to

00:37:35.780 do the best you can

00:37:38.640 to stick to the plan.

00:37:40.160 Wow.

00:37:41.540 Is that the most,

00:37:42.640 what's the most exciting point in the race

00:37:44.840 if there is,

00:37:45.740 like,

00:37:46.180 is it right when that gate opens?

00:37:47.880 Is that frenetic?

00:37:48.940 It feels like it would be so,

00:37:50.380 like,

00:37:51.040 there's so many things happening at once.

00:37:53.300 Is it hard to kind of just stay in

00:37:55.180 what's going on with you?

00:37:57.200 Yeah.

00:37:57.840 The most,

00:37:58.560 definitely the gate

00:37:59.440 because it's like,

00:38:00.140 like an F1 race,

00:38:02.020 racing,

00:38:02.720 you know,

00:38:03.000 like the start,

00:38:04.060 right?

00:38:04.320 Everybody,

00:38:04.700 you want to get your position

00:38:06.220 as soon as,

00:38:07.380 as soon as you can,

00:38:08.420 you know,

00:38:08.640 and then from that point on,

00:38:10.460 so,

00:38:10.860 then,

00:38:11.840 then you're able to,

00:38:12.800 like,

00:38:13.180 chill,

00:38:13.680 relax,

00:38:14.200 save your horse,

00:38:14.920 or like,

00:38:15.320 you know,

00:38:16.840 those type of things,

00:38:17.900 you know,

00:38:18.100 so the start is definitely,

00:38:19.460 like,

00:38:20.620 very crucial and very excited,

00:38:22.420 but like a lot of adrenaline,

00:38:23.660 a lot of rush going on.

00:38:25.140 To me,

00:38:25.940 that part,

00:38:26.940 and then,

00:38:27.580 you know,

00:38:28.120 like,

00:38:28.420 like,

00:38:30.560 the last quarter of a mile

00:38:31.940 of the race,

00:38:32.560 you know,

00:38:32.680 especially if I know,

00:38:33.820 oh,

00:38:33.940 I still have a lot of horse,

00:38:35.000 I still have a lot in the tank,

00:38:37.100 you know,

00:38:37.380 that's,

00:38:38.040 that's probably the most excited for me.

00:38:39.980 How do you know if you have a lot in the tank?

00:38:41.800 Is it because you've previously tried that horse

00:38:44.040 and got an idea of what's in that horse,

00:38:45.900 or is it because in that moment,

00:38:47.820 you can kind of tell what's in the tank?

00:38:50.720 Both,

00:38:51.260 you know,

00:38:51.560 like,

00:38:51.820 it's because,

00:38:52.320 like,

00:38:52.420 you get to know the horse prior,

00:38:53.760 you know,

00:38:54.020 on training,

00:38:54.520 and I consider myself lucky,

00:38:57.900 you know,

00:38:58.160 because like,

00:38:58.620 I can tell by just holding my reins,

00:39:01.800 you know,

00:39:02.160 like,

00:39:02.920 being in,

00:39:03.380 being in sync,

00:39:04.280 being in,

00:39:04.980 and,

00:39:05.260 and,

00:39:05.560 and,

00:39:05.860 and,

00:39:06.180 and,

00:39:06.340 how do you say that?

00:39:07.960 Like,

00:39:08.260 synchronized or being in,

00:39:09.560 Oh,

00:39:09.720 yeah.

00:39:09.900 In a mutual,

00:39:10.560 like a female volleyball squad.

00:39:12.160 Yeah,

00:39:12.600 yeah,

00:39:12.720 I feel you.

00:39:13.520 But yeah,

00:39:14.080 I know you see,

00:39:14.600 it's like synchronicity kind of,

00:39:15.840 yeah.

00:39:15.940 So,

00:39:16.380 and,

00:39:16.940 and,

00:39:16.960 and,

00:39:17.500 all that,

00:39:18.140 you know,

00:39:18.420 like,

00:39:18.740 I get to feel my horse,

00:39:20.500 you know,

00:39:20.640 you feel the energy,

00:39:21.560 like,

00:39:21.760 they have a lot of energy,

00:39:23.100 horses have a lot of energy,

00:39:24.320 so you feel them,

00:39:25.200 you know,

00:39:25.460 so,

00:39:25.980 like,

00:39:26.220 just,

00:39:26.900 they'll tell you,

00:39:28.060 if,

00:39:28.960 if they're tired,

00:39:29.840 or that's,

00:39:30.160 that's all,

00:39:30.520 hey,

00:39:30.700 you know what,

00:39:31.140 that's,

00:39:31.360 that's all I got,

00:39:32.080 buddy,

00:39:32.300 you know,

00:39:32.500 I have,

00:39:32.900 you,

00:39:33.200 you can tell when the horse give you everything,

00:39:35.520 or you can tell when your horse is like,

00:39:36.900 no,

00:39:37.060 no,

00:39:37.220 we have something,

00:39:38.180 you know,

00:39:38.380 there is little tricks that you can do mid-race to kind of test how much horse you have left,

00:39:43.420 you know?

00:39:43.700 Okay.

00:39:44.300 What are some of those,

00:39:45.320 take me through some of those,

00:39:46.260 like,

00:39:46.380 just even small little things.

00:39:47.680 Small little things is like,

00:39:48.780 for example,

00:39:49.360 you know,

00:39:49.660 you don't,

00:39:50.060 you're,

00:39:50.360 you're like,

00:39:51.440 comfortable holding him,

00:39:52.720 you know,

00:39:52.960 he's obeying what you said,

00:39:54.120 and all of a sudden you kind of go like,

00:39:56.200 and they,

00:39:56.560 they,

00:39:56.740 they,

00:39:56.880 they just like,

00:39:57.440 you feel the push,

00:39:59.160 the push,

00:40:00.040 kind of shifting gears in the car,

00:40:01.560 you feel that,

00:40:02.060 okay,

00:40:02.340 I have it,

00:40:02.760 so you can,

00:40:03.360 like,

00:40:03.720 you ease up on him and be like,

00:40:04.960 okay,

00:40:05.260 don't worry.

00:40:05.620 I see what's up,

00:40:06.540 baby,

00:40:06.700 we're going to do it when we need to do it.

00:40:08.540 Yeah.

00:40:08.640 Yeah.

00:40:09.120 Okay.

00:40:09.900 Then sometimes you're asking the horse and he goes nowhere,

00:40:12.680 and then he's like,

00:40:13.480 oh,

00:40:13.840 it's going to be a rough trip.

00:40:16.440 He's like looking at the concession stand in the distance.

00:40:18.940 basically,

00:40:19.560 yeah.

00:40:20.760 Is there a way to,

00:40:22.140 to turn around,

00:40:23.200 say a horse kind of feels like it's not into it,

00:40:25.560 or it's gassed out,

00:40:26.400 or it's not having that flare in that race.

00:40:29.480 Is there a way to recalibrate that kind of horse,

00:40:33.200 or,

00:40:33.340 or is it just kind of like,

00:40:34.540 sometimes that's just the way that,

00:40:35.960 that it rolls?

00:40:37.200 Yeah.

00:40:37.420 Well,

00:40:37.780 there's like horses,

00:40:39.780 right?

00:40:39.960 It's a living creature.

00:40:41.060 So like,

00:40:41.360 no,

00:40:41.580 like in that,

00:40:42.200 and that is nothing you can do in the air to,

00:40:44.860 to,

00:40:45.100 to shift that.

00:40:45.900 You know,

00:40:46.080 when a horse can give you all the air,

00:40:48.000 when,

00:40:48.120 when a fire is tired,

00:40:49.820 there's no way you can pump air into him and all of a sudden.

00:40:53.900 Wouldn't that be great if they brought a pump out?

00:40:55.760 No,

00:40:55.940 right.

00:40:56.420 So,

00:40:56.900 no,

00:40:57.280 like basically you,

00:40:58.760 I mean,

00:40:59.160 it's our responsibility to just kind of like wrap up,

00:41:01.560 you know,

00:41:01.880 save him,

00:41:02.560 you know,

00:41:02.880 and.

00:41:03.440 Right.

00:41:03.800 Save him.

00:41:04.180 So then you're thinking about a chance for him to run a few weeks from now.

00:41:07.500 Yeah.

00:41:07.880 Yeah.

00:41:08.100 You know,

00:41:08.940 regroup,

00:41:09.660 you know,

00:41:10.020 like maybe he wasn't feeling good that day,

00:41:12.340 you know,

00:41:12.640 that's the other thing,

00:41:13.520 you know,

00:41:13.720 you can be on the favorite,

00:41:14.780 but what if that horse,

00:41:16.500 that specific day that he's going to run,

00:41:18.700 he's,

00:41:18.860 he's just not feeling it,

00:41:20.040 you know,

00:41:20.260 like,

00:41:20.540 oh,

00:41:20.680 he is about to get sick,

00:41:23.100 you know,

00:41:23.760 you know,

00:41:24.100 sometimes when we are about to get a cold,

00:41:26.120 you know,

00:41:26.400 like you can feel it,

00:41:27.260 you know,

00:41:27.500 two,

00:41:27.700 three days before that,

00:41:28.580 you kind of feel a little bit.

00:41:30.080 Yeah.

00:41:30.360 Yeah.

00:41:30.920 So the same thing with horses,

00:41:32.540 you know,

00:41:32.820 huh?

00:41:35.140 Wow.

00:41:35.560 That's so interesting,

00:41:36.500 man.

00:41:36.800 We got a question that came right here for you,

00:41:38.520 Maria.

00:41:39.800 Yo,

00:41:41.020 Mr. Gutierrez,

00:41:42.260 got a question for you,

00:41:43.840 big dog.

00:41:45.700 What is it like straddling one of those land sharks with millions of people watching you?

00:41:55.340 How do you stay composed and not absorb the pressure that is,

00:42:01.560 being a jockey in the Kentucky Derby?

00:42:06.620 Yeah.

00:42:07.020 Are there races like the Kentucky Derby?

00:42:08.520 Thank you,

00:42:09.040 brother gang,

00:42:09.520 baby.

00:42:09.920 Are there races like that Kentucky Derby where it's,

00:42:13.120 that you just feel the energy is so much bigger?

00:42:16.260 Yeah.

00:42:16.620 It's exciting.

00:42:17.200 I think the Kentucky Derby should be on your bucket list,

00:42:19.420 you know,

00:42:19.660 choose to go and experience like 160,000 people,

00:42:22.740 you know,

00:42:23.320 all eyes looking and like the 20 horses that are competing there.

00:42:26.600 The build up to the Kentucky Derby is like,

00:42:29.300 it's a different beast.

00:42:30.880 So take me through,

00:42:31.800 can we see your race when the,

00:42:33.480 the,

00:42:33.800 the,

00:42:34.120 your first win there?

00:42:35.420 And would you say it was 2016,

00:42:36.740 2012?

00:42:40.060 And how many times have you watched this a lot?

00:42:42.420 You know,

00:42:43.000 not many,

00:42:43.480 no,

00:42:43.680 no,

00:42:43.920 no,

00:42:44.040 not very many times.

00:42:45.140 I haven't rewatched it.

00:42:46.460 No.

00:42:46.520 Larry Colmas with the call.

00:42:57.920 Okay.

00:42:58.200 So where are you at in this one,

00:42:59.160 Mario?

00:42:59.480 19?

00:43:00.400 19?

00:43:01.040 Yeah.

00:43:01.860 In the purple?

00:43:02.820 In the purple,

00:43:03.640 yeah.

00:43:04.700 And as expected,

00:43:06.020 Trinnyburg had a great start.

00:43:07.980 Gemologist is also up for me.

00:43:09.980 Hanson is in between horses and Bodie Meister is down on the inside.

00:43:12.900 That wide cam again,

00:43:13.820 so we can see.

00:43:14.760 And now Bodie Meister's ahead of Trinnyburg.

00:43:15.680 Bodie Meister and Trinnyburg.

00:43:17.000 We'll go back next so we can see that wide where it's like the flock.

00:43:20.900 Okay.

00:43:21.260 Right here.

00:43:22.060 So what's kind of going on right here?

00:43:24.380 Like horses are coming out.

00:43:25.840 Some of them,

00:43:26.380 I guess,

00:43:27.140 like are some of the,

00:43:29.080 like some of the riders are in the lead here.

00:43:30.800 Like,

00:43:31.200 yeah.

00:43:31.520 Is that because the,

00:43:32.420 the,

00:43:32.720 the,

00:43:33.040 the jockey has like kind of commanded them to be in the lead or did the horse

00:43:36.440 just come out strong?

00:43:37.640 No,

00:43:37.880 a lot of horses are like being command to go to the lead,

00:43:40.200 you know,

00:43:40.420 and everybody is trying to be,

00:43:41.860 um,

00:43:43.880 it's like not necessarily that you want to go to the,

00:43:45.660 but you want to get a clear path so you can be like,

00:43:48.580 maybe like to be in front of a horse,

00:43:51.200 whatever horse is behind you,

00:43:52.480 because that way you can get your position faster,

00:43:56.400 you know?

00:43:57.100 Okay.

00:43:57.560 And now if a horse comes up,

00:43:58.980 say you,

00:43:59.320 you,

00:43:59.520 you come out of the gate and another horse kind of gets in front of you a

00:44:02.660 little bit.

00:44:03.040 Is that bad for your horse?

00:44:04.660 Yeah,

00:44:04.860 because then you had to,

00:44:05.960 you had to regroup.

00:44:06.880 You have to,

00:44:07.360 you have to check your horse.

00:44:08.540 Now you have to weigh whatever that,

00:44:10.000 that horse in front of you is going to do.

00:44:11.700 And then you hope in the,

00:44:12.960 after that,

00:44:13.640 then you get to do,

00:44:14.900 you know,

00:44:15.240 your,

00:44:16.000 your strategy or basically choose plan B or plan C,

00:44:20.000 you know,

00:44:20.240 now you're there.

00:44:21.060 Now choose what you do.

00:44:22.060 You know,

00:44:22.360 you chose to stay there or you chose to go around that horse in front of

00:44:26.600 you.

00:44:26.820 It's just a lot of like,

00:44:27.980 you have to adjust in the moment.

00:44:30.860 Is there a moment there's a horse here that's in the back and he's only in

00:44:33.620 the back by about three lengths.

00:44:34.960 It looks like.

00:44:36.160 And is that right?

00:44:37.500 You think how many lengths has he been in the back?

00:44:39.520 Yeah.

00:44:39.700 He's probably like around six,

00:44:41.100 seven lengths.

00:44:41.720 Okay.

00:44:42.280 So my length math is what he used to be.

00:44:45.460 I was just trying to sound like I knew what I was saying,

00:44:47.480 but so he's about six or seven lengths back.

00:44:50.440 Does that horse,

00:44:51.540 he still has a chance to win though,

00:44:53.100 huh?

00:44:53.380 Of course.

00:44:53.920 Yeah,

00:44:54.100 no,

00:44:54.320 of course he has.

00:44:55.260 Unless that horse,

00:44:56.720 uh,

00:44:57.020 uh,

00:44:57.460 um,

00:44:59.260 a strategy or,

00:45:00.380 or,

00:45:00.660 or,

00:45:01.080 um,

00:45:02.540 was to going to the front,

00:45:04.040 you know,

00:45:04.180 if that wasn't,

00:45:06.320 if that was the case,

00:45:07.260 then he's totally screwed.

00:45:08.820 He's like not liking his,

00:45:10.860 his chances.

00:45:11.640 And the jockey's realizing at that point,

00:45:13.140 Oh,

00:45:13.360 this is probably just not going to be the day.

00:45:14.720 It's not going to be good.

00:45:15.480 Yeah.

00:45:15.700 Okay.

00:45:16.440 Okay,

00:45:16.800 cool.

00:45:17.100 Let's,

00:45:17.380 let's keep it cruising then.

00:45:19.800 And where are you at?

00:45:21.540 Right here on the outside.

00:45:23.100 Oh,

00:45:23.260 there you are cruising,

00:45:24.120 huh?

00:45:24.360 Yeah.

00:45:24.900 And now Bodie Meister's ahead of Trinnyburg.

00:45:27.320 You're kind of in the middle right now,

00:45:28.320 right?

00:45:28.460 Is that your purple helmet?

00:45:29.420 Yeah,

00:45:29.640 the purple helmet,

00:45:30.440 I'm in the middle.

00:45:31.260 I'm going to bounce a little bit.

00:45:32.480 I think there's some gas in it,

00:45:33.720 huh?

00:45:33.780 Yeah.

00:45:33.960 Hanson's hard to control early.

00:45:35.740 Gemologist is fifth on the outside.

00:45:37.260 I'll have another is next.

00:45:38.640 Okay.

00:45:38.960 So you have turns here.

00:45:41.880 Like how much turns do you have?

00:45:43.660 Two.

00:45:44.120 Two turns.

00:45:44.740 So you have this one and then coming out of it.

00:45:46.460 And then the last one,

00:45:46.700 yeah.

00:45:47.420 Ah,

00:45:47.900 now what do you do during the turns,

00:45:49.760 man?

00:45:50.020 Well,

00:45:50.200 you try to save as much.

00:45:51.240 I hate turns.

00:45:51.660 Yeah.

00:45:52.660 Yeah,

00:45:52.980 because you can't do much.

00:45:54.060 Like even if you're playing a racing game or something,

00:45:56.040 like on the turns,

00:45:56.960 you're like,

00:45:57.220 Yeah,

00:45:57.380 you just have to like be in the turn.

00:46:00.080 There's not,

00:46:00.540 you can't,

00:46:00.940 I feel like it's hard to use strategy.

00:46:02.620 Yeah,

00:46:02.880 no,

00:46:03.020 you have to,

00:46:03.620 you just have to help your horse to take the turn the best way possible,

00:46:06.780 you know,

00:46:07.180 and then like set up your,

00:46:08.700 uh,

00:46:09.640 um,

00:46:10.480 coming out of,

00:46:11.740 out of this first turn because you're going to get a stretch again,

00:46:14.560 you know?

00:46:15.000 Okay.

00:46:15.400 And then line up to get the second,

00:46:17.360 the last turn,

00:46:18.060 you know?

00:46:18.520 Okay.

00:46:19.860 Okay.

00:46:20.220 Let's keep it cruising here.

00:46:21.520 The rail will take charge Indy as they move into the turn.

00:46:24.500 And then it's daddy knows best on the far outside liaison,

00:46:27.560 creative cause optimizer along the rail.

00:46:30.040 Now,

00:46:30.200 did you feel like you had a chance in this race right here?

00:46:33.020 What were you feeling like?

00:46:34.100 I did that.

00:46:34.820 I have a chance because this is a horse that I,

00:46:36.880 like I was,

00:46:37.340 I was,

00:46:37.680 I got very familiar with him before going to the Kentucky Derby.

00:46:40.940 And you have to understand like this never happened to,

00:46:43.380 they never happens to nobody.

00:46:44.460 All of a sudden a kid coming from a C racetrack or D racetrack,

00:46:49.700 you know,

00:46:49.980 like,

00:46:50.320 uh,

00:46:50.760 and all of a sudden he is in the Kentucky Derby.

00:46:53.480 First of all,

00:46:53.900 it was a lot of doubts.

00:46:54.760 It's like,

00:46:55.280 you know,

00:46:55.520 like,

00:46:56.220 well,

00:46:56.420 does he even have it,

00:46:57.700 you know,

00:46:57.880 is it really that,

00:46:58.880 can he be good enough to be in this type of race?

00:47:01.280 Does he even have his adult teeth?

00:47:02.800 I'm sure a lot of people were wondering,

00:47:04.080 you know,

00:47:04.400 like a lot of,

00:47:05.140 yeah.

00:47:05.380 Oh,

00:47:05.500 they're probably thinking,

00:47:06.320 oh,

00:47:06.420 he's totally going to melt down,

00:47:07.780 you know,

00:47:08.200 or things like that.

00:47:09.140 Oh,

00:47:09.160 the pressure.

00:47:09.580 The pressure and all these things.

00:47:10.860 Was there a lot of pressure?

00:47:11.860 No.

00:47:12.900 No,

00:47:13.140 I'm very lucky that I don't,

00:47:14.760 the pressure,

00:47:15.540 I'm very good under pressure,

00:47:17.260 you know,

00:47:17.820 and I couldn't,

00:47:19.140 I couldn't like,

00:47:20.540 And you're in fourth right here?

00:47:22.480 Yeah,

00:47:22.740 I'm fourth right now.

00:47:23.880 So this is the second turn?

00:47:25.100 This is the second turn.

00:47:26.460 Wow.

00:47:26.740 I thought I was going to finish second.

00:47:28.620 If you see that horse in front,

00:47:30.820 Okay.

00:47:31.120 He's like super,

00:47:32.100 super in front of me.

00:47:33.420 Oh,

00:47:33.600 totally.

00:47:34.240 And then,

00:47:34.540 but my horse still has some guys,

00:47:35.960 so I'm thinking like,

00:47:36.920 oh my God,

00:47:37.440 you know,

00:47:37.720 I'm going to finish second in the Kentucky Derby.

00:47:39.440 I was pumped,

00:47:40.480 you know?

00:47:41.140 I was so pumped.

00:47:41.880 Okay,

00:47:41.900 stop it right here.

00:47:42.620 Stop it right here.

00:47:43.740 Okay,

00:47:44.120 what do you do on the horse here?

00:47:45.720 So you have,

00:47:46.440 now you all,

00:47:46.900 we also have,

00:47:47.820 I just want to show this here.

00:47:48.660 This is called a what?

00:47:50.480 Whip,

00:47:50.960 crop.

00:47:51.560 Okay,

00:47:51.940 whip or crop.

00:47:52.820 And then,

00:47:53.760 we have your helmet here.

00:47:56.060 Okay.

00:47:57.000 And so that's pretty light.

00:47:57.780 Everybody wears kind of the same type of helmet?

00:47:59.360 Yeah.

00:47:59.760 Okay.

00:48:00.760 Do you,

00:48:01.740 now at this point,

00:48:02.900 how much times can you whip the horse,

00:48:04.580 as much as you want?

00:48:06.520 This,

00:48:07.300 yeah.

00:48:08.600 But,

00:48:09.540 a lot of rules have changed now.

00:48:11.340 Now we're not allowed,

00:48:13.000 you know?

00:48:13.460 But I'm never like,

00:48:15.240 known to hit my horses a lot,

00:48:19.440 you know?

00:48:19.700 So if you see here,

00:48:20.740 I hit once,

00:48:21.540 and then you push your horse,

00:48:22.660 you know,

00:48:22.820 you had to give him a chance to respond,

00:48:24.340 you know?

00:48:24.540 But,

00:48:25.380 back in 2012,

00:48:27.780 there wasn't like a,

00:48:28.720 a restriction of how many times you can whip a horse.

00:48:31.500 It wasn't.

00:48:31.820 It's like a stepdad out there.

00:48:33.180 If you weren't,

00:48:33.740 yeah,

00:48:33.840 you could have gone like,

00:48:34.760 ta-ta,

00:48:35.200 like,

00:48:35.580 you know,

00:48:35.860 but.

00:48:36.220 Does the horse,

00:48:36.760 does it hurt the horse much?

00:48:38.060 It doesn't.

00:48:38.800 What do you think?

00:48:40.880 Well,

00:48:41.180 it depends.

00:48:41.660 I think back in the days,

00:48:42.540 it used to.

00:48:43.040 If I,

00:48:43.360 if I show you one of the,

00:48:44.660 the,

00:48:45.080 the,

00:48:45.540 the,

00:48:45.940 the,

00:48:46.260 um,

00:48:47.080 whips,

00:48:47.560 they used to use the,

00:48:48.600 the old timers,

00:48:49.540 you know?

00:48:49.820 Really?

00:48:50.320 That used to use some serious,

00:48:51.540 huh?

00:48:51.620 Yeah.

00:48:53.460 Yeah.

00:48:53.780 That's interesting.

00:48:54.720 It's not as like,

00:48:55.760 I mean,

00:48:56.060 if this were lead,

00:48:56.820 it would be tough.

00:48:57.640 Oh yeah.

00:48:58.180 Yeah.

00:48:58.460 Yeah.

00:48:58.580 Yeah.

00:49:00.440 Okay.

00:49:00.820 So here we go.

00:49:01.620 Let's go through this,

00:49:02.420 man.

00:49:02.620 This is crazy.

00:49:03.060 So what is your strategy right here?

00:49:04.180 Like,

00:49:04.340 do you have any?

00:49:04.760 Well,

00:49:04.940 no,

00:49:05.200 that does it.

00:49:05.860 Like,

00:49:06.040 as soon as you go to the last stretch,

00:49:07.520 either like,

00:49:07.960 that's just like,

00:49:08.700 try to go as far as like,

00:49:10.460 try to ask your horse to finish.

00:49:12.260 Like,

00:49:12.440 are you yelling at the horse?

00:49:13.760 Yeah.

00:49:14.000 What do you say?

00:49:15.380 Come on.

00:49:16.240 Come on.

00:49:18.380 Oh my God.

00:49:20.880 That's so cool.

00:49:21.360 And then it was Bodemeister Dullahan,

00:49:23.300 and went the day well.

00:49:25.060 You must have been.

00:49:26.060 I was already crying there,

00:49:27.180 like a little bit.

00:49:28.000 Wow.

00:49:28.320 Oh.

00:49:29.280 Look at this.

00:49:30.260 Yeah.

00:49:32.380 Doug O'Neill accepting the hugs all around.

00:49:35.640 Oh man,

00:49:37.020 that must have been awesome.

00:49:38.400 Yeah,

00:49:38.820 that was so cool.

00:49:39.860 Yeah.

00:49:40.560 Then that,

00:49:42.140 well,

00:49:42.240 I guess like,

00:49:42.720 you know,

00:49:42.960 like you say,

00:49:43.360 compare,

00:49:43.680 that's like our Super Bowl,

00:49:44.920 you know,

00:49:45.180 like,

00:49:45.400 so my whole life,

00:49:46.860 I was 24 years old,

00:49:47.800 I think.

00:49:48.280 So my whole life,

00:49:49.400 like,

00:49:49.640 just flash in front of me,

00:49:50.960 you know,

00:49:51.260 thinking that.

00:49:52.840 Maybe this is why I don't watch this replay,

00:49:54.820 because then I get emotional a little bit.

00:49:57.480 Dude,

00:49:57.860 I'm emotional.

00:49:58.380 I wasn't even in it.

00:49:59.260 I mean,

00:49:59.440 I've done steroids,

00:50:00.420 but that's the closest I've come.

00:50:01.920 I used to do them in high school.

00:50:02.980 That's the closest I've come to being in the Kentucky Derby.

00:50:04.620 If you're watching the race here with you,

00:50:05.960 I understand why I don't watch the race a lot.

00:50:07.900 Oh,

00:50:08.100 I'm sorry,

00:50:08.660 man.

00:50:09.680 But it's really exciting.

00:50:10.880 I think also,

00:50:11.460 it's a way to kind of channel with,

00:50:12.820 just that it's even a possibility for people,

00:50:14.880 you know?

00:50:15.260 Of course.

00:50:15.840 It's inspiring,

00:50:16.600 like,

00:50:16.760 if there's young men out there

00:50:17.840 who think about being jockeys,

00:50:19.960 young Latino men out there,

00:50:21.680 we have a good Latino audience,

00:50:23.540 who think about being jockeys,

00:50:25.740 or it's interesting,

00:50:27.940 or they might have a kid

00:50:28.760 who's like a,

00:50:29.420 more of a petite size kid,

00:50:31.020 and like,

00:50:31.260 what can I get my kid into?

00:50:32.560 Yeah.

00:50:33.100 You know,

00:50:33.340 you don't think that,

00:50:34.240 man,

00:50:34.420 it's really almost the last thing

00:50:35.920 you think about.

00:50:36.980 Probably,

00:50:37.500 yeah.

00:50:37.560 I feel like it's either hide and go seek,

00:50:39.060 or being a jockey.

00:50:40.080 I feel like if you're kind of more

00:50:41.160 petite size,

00:50:42.820 you know?

00:50:43.840 Yeah.

00:50:45.100 What,

00:50:45.720 so take me through your journey

00:50:47.260 as like,

00:50:47.940 how you got into like,

00:50:49.040 doing,

00:50:49.480 like,

00:50:49.780 how did it start for you?

00:50:51.100 Yeah,

00:50:51.420 well,

00:50:51.600 like you say,

00:50:51.960 winning this race,

00:50:52.720 it's kind of like,

00:50:53.260 it flashes,

00:50:53.820 you know?

00:50:54.040 I thought about myself,

00:50:55.020 like,

00:50:55.220 you know,

00:50:55.520 we're back at home,

00:50:57.160 you know?

00:50:57.520 My dad tried to,

00:50:58.940 you know,

00:50:59.420 provide better for us,

00:51:02.220 you know,

00:51:02.500 like,

00:51:02.680 in Mexico or no?

00:51:04.480 In Mexico,

00:51:05.000 you know?

00:51:05.280 What part?

00:51:05.900 Veracruz.

00:51:06.760 Oh,

00:51:07.160 I've never been there.

00:51:07.720 Where is it?

00:51:08.120 It's nice.

00:51:08.820 It's nice.

00:51:09.600 It sounds nice.

00:51:10.740 It's nice,

00:51:10.880 it's nice,

00:51:11.420 you know?

00:51:11.880 It's on the beach or no?

00:51:13.100 We have a lot of beach,

00:51:14.760 yeah.

00:51:15.380 So,

00:51:15.820 but I'm not from,

00:51:16.680 from the beach part of the state,

00:51:18.600 you know?

00:51:18.820 Like,

00:51:19.180 I'm more like,

00:51:20.320 to the inside.

00:51:22.460 I'm not,

00:51:23.020 maybe like two hours.

00:51:23.740 Oh,

00:51:23.880 you're on the Gulf side?

00:51:25.280 Yeah.

00:51:25.520 Oh,

00:51:25.940 wow.

00:51:26.540 That's interesting.

00:51:27.980 Right up in the top,

00:51:29.540 around there.

00:51:30.440 That's where I'm from.

00:51:31.280 Exactly around there.

00:51:32.780 El Igo Veracruz.

00:51:33.860 That's where I'm,

00:51:34.580 that's exactly where I'm from.

00:51:35.940 It's a big place?

00:51:37.260 No.

00:51:37.940 I mean,

00:51:38.280 when I was there,

00:51:38.900 it's probably like,

00:51:39.560 you know,

00:51:39.860 the town was around probably 10,000 people.

00:51:42.920 Oh,

00:51:43.080 wow.

00:51:43.740 So,

00:51:43.860 you must be like a hero,

00:51:44.860 huh?

00:51:45.460 Oh,

00:51:45.840 when I was there,

00:51:46.440 yeah,

00:51:46.600 all my friends and everything,

00:51:47.860 you know?

00:51:48.780 Yeah.

00:51:49.440 So,

00:51:49.860 because 10,000 is pretty small.

00:51:51.300 I mean,

00:51:51.380 it's a small town.

00:51:52.180 It's a small town.

00:51:53.020 You know,

00:51:53.280 it was very small,

00:51:54.020 very poor town too.

00:51:55.120 Yeah.

00:51:55.400 Very,

00:51:55.700 very poor,

00:51:56.180 you know?

00:51:56.280 A lot of horses,

00:51:57.880 like a lot,

00:51:59.200 was horsing like a big business there?

00:52:01.460 No,

00:52:02.000 no,

00:52:02.400 no.

00:52:02.800 Like,

00:52:03.280 that's how it's very crazy that I got into,

00:52:05.800 like,

00:52:06.000 you know,

00:52:06.180 even from my town,

00:52:07.520 like that town and anything around there,

00:52:09.760 I was the only one doing it because like I said,

00:52:12.340 my dad,

00:52:13.480 we were like really poor.

00:52:15.320 We were very,

00:52:15.840 very poor.

00:52:16.400 So,

00:52:16.860 my dad,

00:52:17.360 land this job in this farm and this,

00:52:20.680 the owner of this farm happened to own a coddle horse,

00:52:24.440 you know?

00:52:24.820 And then he saw my dad and my dad is a little bit smaller than me.

00:52:27.800 Oh,

00:52:28.020 really?

00:52:28.300 He probably looked at him and be like,

00:52:29.520 oh,

00:52:29.640 he could be,

00:52:30.160 he could be a jockey.

00:52:31.280 So,

00:52:31.880 he,

00:52:32.180 he went and asked my dad,

00:52:33.380 hey,

00:52:33.720 are you interested in learning how to become a jockey?

00:52:36.000 You know,

00:52:36.140 I want you to like ride my horse.

00:52:37.900 And then my dad say yes,

00:52:39.800 because that's probably like a way for him to do better and earn more money for us.

00:52:44.420 What a rare job too.

00:52:45.920 Yeah.

00:52:46.400 So,

00:52:46.840 my dad say yes.

00:52:48.500 So then I,

00:52:49.060 I was like probably seven years old when I,

00:52:50.960 I was watching my dad becoming a jockey,

00:52:53.500 you know?

00:52:53.880 So,

00:52:54.340 I was like,

00:52:55.280 I love my dad,

00:52:56.480 you know?

00:52:56.980 So,

00:52:57.240 I was like,

00:52:57.660 no,

00:52:57.860 I'm going to be,

00:52:58.480 choose like my dad.

00:52:59.300 I want to be a jockey.

00:53:00.100 And since that early age,

00:53:01.300 I was like,

00:53:02.120 I just knew that's exactly what I wanted to do.

00:53:05.140 Your dad must be so proud of you,

00:53:06.540 huh?

00:53:06.780 Yeah.

00:53:07.300 Yeah.

00:53:07.620 Yeah.

00:53:07.860 Very proud.

00:53:08.540 Does he still live there in Veracruz or no?

00:53:10.320 Yeah.

00:53:10.520 My whole family.

00:53:11.560 I'm by myself here.

00:53:12.780 Me and my wife.

00:53:13.480 And your wife.

00:53:13.980 Yeah.

00:53:14.900 Okay.

00:53:15.320 So,

00:53:15.600 you,

00:53:15.840 your dad gets into it,

00:53:16.960 then you,

00:53:18.400 so how do you get on the horse then?

00:53:20.460 Well,

00:53:20.920 then,

00:53:21.220 then my dad,

00:53:22.560 was your dad good?

00:53:22.860 Was your dad a good jockey?

00:53:23.880 I think so.

00:53:24.660 I think my dad was,

00:53:25.500 I think he was better than what people wanted to give him credit,

00:53:28.440 you know,

00:53:29.060 as a jockey.

00:53:29.700 He did it,

00:53:30.240 he did it for very short,

00:53:32.240 probably like six,

00:53:33.020 six,

00:53:33.340 seven years,

00:53:33.820 you know?

00:53:35.140 Hey,

00:53:35.400 you want to pull your jacket down on the back?

00:53:36.660 It's just right.

00:53:37.220 Let's see you.

00:53:37.920 Yeah.

00:53:38.060 No,

00:53:38.220 you don't take it off.

00:53:39.100 You can leave it on.

00:53:39.700 No,

00:53:39.900 I'm just saying pull it down,

00:53:40.860 I think.

00:53:41.260 No,

00:53:41.400 just on the edges.

00:53:42.440 Sorry.

00:53:43.000 I can take it off.

00:53:43.740 I'm a little bit hot.

00:53:44.480 I was going to ask you.

00:53:45.240 Yeah.

00:53:45.520 Okay.

00:53:46.240 Okay.

00:53:46.440 I turned the AC down.

00:53:47.680 How are you feeling?

00:53:48.320 No,

00:53:48.360 that's fine.

00:53:48.780 That's fine.

00:53:49.360 That's fine.

00:53:50.600 Um,

00:53:51.260 yeah,

00:53:52.940 it's a cool jacket,

00:53:53.640 man.

00:53:53.780 What is that style called?

00:53:55.300 I don't know.

00:53:55.780 My wife dressed me.

00:53:57.920 Yeah,

00:53:58.340 she did.

00:53:58.720 She did a good job.

00:53:59.420 It almost has like an authentic,

00:54:00.560 like,

00:54:01.040 I don't want to say Mexican look,

00:54:02.520 but something like that.

00:54:03.520 Yeah.

00:54:03.880 Something like,

00:54:04.640 uh,

00:54:05.260 yeah,

00:54:05.620 it's like a,

00:54:06.180 I don't know what it reminds me of.

00:54:08.100 I just,

00:54:08.640 I haven't seen it in a long time,

00:54:10.160 but it's cool.

00:54:11.440 Um,

00:54:11.880 okay.

00:54:12.300 So you,

00:54:12.840 then how do you get on the horse?

00:54:14.200 So,

00:54:14.520 so,

00:54:15.280 um,

00:54:15.760 so your dad's jockeying,

00:54:16.800 is he jockeying in races?

00:54:18.220 Is he jockeying?

00:54:19.220 No,

00:54:19.400 yeah.

00:54:19.540 And quarter horse races in Mexico,

00:54:21.040 very popular quarter horse racing in Mexico.

00:54:22.740 Really?

00:54:23.180 Yeah.

00:54:23.500 All over Mexico is very popular.

00:54:24.740 Bring that up.

00:54:25.160 I want to see what that quarter horse is.

00:54:27.460 And what?

00:54:27.860 It's like the little ponies,

00:54:28.860 the little ones?

00:54:29.520 No,

00:54:29.700 no,

00:54:29.820 no.

00:54:30.240 Big,

00:54:30.700 big horses.

00:54:31.580 Oh,

00:54:31.780 it's full horses.

00:54:32.600 Oh,

00:54:32.720 it's a normal size horse,

00:54:34.220 quarter horse,

00:54:34.760 but then,

00:54:35.220 but it's a very short race.

00:54:36.660 It's like a,

00:54:37.680 like,

00:54:38.000 you know,

00:54:38.220 like one of those cars that just go like a quarter of a mile,

00:54:41.180 something like that.

00:54:41.720 Oh,

00:54:42.260 dang.

00:54:42.680 So it's like drag racing.

00:54:43.960 And they're more bulk,

00:54:44.860 you know,

00:54:45.100 they're,

00:54:45.340 yeah,

00:54:45.500 yeah.

00:54:49.540 It's very popular in Mexico.

00:54:51.680 Like in all the states in Mexico,

00:54:53.520 there's a lot of quarter horse.

00:54:54.800 That's how,

00:54:55.680 that was like how it started when I was 14.

00:54:58.760 I was doing a lot of quarter horse racing in Mexico.

00:55:00.760 Yeah.

00:55:00.980 Before I went to Mexico City.

00:55:02.660 Is it like,

00:55:03.780 what would you compare it to like a sport here?

00:55:06.580 Because it's more popular there than it is here.

00:55:11.060 Quarter horse racing?

00:55:11.840 Probably.

00:55:12.520 Yeah.

00:55:12.820 Yeah.

00:55:13.040 I think it's illegal here.

00:55:14.440 Oh,

00:55:14.720 right.

00:55:16.420 No,

00:55:16.820 no,

00:55:17.100 no,

00:55:17.380 I shouldn't say that.

00:55:18.940 No,

00:55:19.080 it's not illegal that we have quarter horse racetracks here,

00:55:22.100 but there is not a lot of them.

00:55:24.000 Well,

00:55:24.220 I would say much races,

00:55:26.480 much,

00:55:26.700 much racing means is like in Mexico,

00:55:29.460 like anybody that,

00:55:30.520 that has a farm,

00:55:31.940 you know,

00:55:32.180 could build their own racetrack and they can put together a car or like a five,

00:55:36.640 six races,

00:55:37.420 you know?

00:55:37.880 Right.

00:55:38.100 And then,

00:55:38.600 and then you charge people to come watch your event.

00:55:41.080 And then that's much racing,

00:55:42.340 you know,

00:55:42.860 I think that's,

00:55:43.680 I don't think that's,

00:55:44.380 that might not be legal here.

00:55:45.380 That might not be legal here to do it.

00:55:46.580 Yeah.

00:55:46.980 Cause I think a lot of horses,

00:55:48.320 like it's all kind of,

00:55:49.440 it might be owned by a lot of like bigger groups and stuff,

00:55:52.320 you know?

00:55:52.740 So they don't want like the smaller guy getting up,

00:55:55.100 you know?

00:55:57.820 Okay,

00:55:58.220 cool.

00:55:58.460 So then you get,

00:55:59.220 you start doing the quarter horse racing and do you do well at it?

00:56:01.700 Yeah,

00:56:01.940 I was really,

00:56:02.540 really well.

00:56:03.120 That's,

00:56:03.460 I was doing really well by this time.

00:56:05.360 I mean,

00:56:05.800 I mean that from,

00:56:06.320 I was seven,

00:56:06.940 now I'm 14.

00:56:07.720 Now I'm going to start racing my quarter horse for my dad.

00:56:11.140 And there's now people calling my dad every week and every 15 days.

00:56:15.060 Hey,

00:56:15.360 is your,

00:56:15.620 is your kid available?

00:56:16.780 You want him to run these races these days?

00:56:21.340 So my dad kind of wasn't in my first agent.

00:56:24.160 So he will like,

00:56:24.960 people will call him.

00:56:26.020 Okay.

00:56:26.340 And then my dad will say,

00:56:27.580 Hey,

00:56:28.000 you know,

00:56:28.280 you,

00:56:28.540 we're going to go race here and there.

00:56:30.180 You're like,

00:56:30.460 my kid's not available.

00:56:32.540 Like we want him to,

00:56:33.440 we want him to ride a,

00:56:34.740 a bear.

00:56:35.900 And you're like,

00:56:36.260 that's not,

00:56:36.840 we don't do that.

00:56:38.040 Yeah.

00:56:38.280 Just horses.

00:56:39.040 That will happen.

00:56:39.800 So that's how I got into four years.

00:56:41.560 I did it until I finished my high school in Mexico and,

00:56:44.160 and,

00:56:44.480 and,

00:56:44.700 and that little town.

00:56:46.100 And then I asked my dad,

00:56:48.540 because now I'm like,

00:56:49.620 I'm like,

00:56:49.960 Oh wow.

00:56:50.300 Like I'm no,

00:56:51.000 I'm good here.

00:56:51.660 Like I know I'm good here.

00:56:53.060 And by this time,

00:56:54.280 I think we were a little bit better off.

00:56:56.300 So I think we finally were able to put in our farm,

00:56:58.900 a satellite TV.

00:57:00.220 And then we used to get,

00:57:01.560 we used to get ESPN.

00:57:03.300 And then ESPN and the weekends,

00:57:06.420 there will be a,

00:57:07.320 Now you're wearing Dwayne Wade jerseys on the back of the horse.

00:57:10.280 There will be a show that a half an hour show.

00:57:14.060 We'll talk specifically about the Ipotrimo in Mexico.

00:57:17.660 About horse racing in Mexico?

00:57:18.940 Uh-huh.

00:57:19.480 Really?

00:57:19.800 That we have,

00:57:20.520 we only have one,

00:57:21.300 one,

00:57:21.720 one racetrack,

00:57:22.680 official racetrack in Mexico city.

00:57:24.220 This is the,

00:57:24.960 in Mexico city,

00:57:25.660 the Ipotrimo de las Americas.

00:57:27.100 So there will be 30 minutes,

00:57:29.140 30 minutes of like,

00:57:30.440 kind of give you the,

00:57:31.340 the,

00:57:31.540 the highlights of the weekend,

00:57:32.940 you know,

00:57:33.620 uh,

00:57:33.920 only highlighting the big races.

00:57:35.780 So I will watch that show every week.

00:57:38.160 I will watch the show and I will see names and I will see like this top

00:57:41.960 jokies.

00:57:42.700 And now in my head,

00:57:44.240 I'm like,

00:57:44.520 you know,

00:57:44.720 okay,

00:57:44.880 I know I'm good here,

00:57:46.000 but am I like,

00:57:47.060 how good am I?

00:57:47.880 This is it here,

00:57:48.620 huh?

00:57:48.720 Yeah,

00:57:48.760 this is it.

00:57:49.220 Oh,

00:57:49.540 that's for,

00:57:49.880 that's an old picture.

00:57:53.100 Wow.

00:57:53.580 So then you get it in your head.

00:57:55.100 Can I go there and do it?

00:57:57.560 Yeah.

00:57:57.740 So did you go perform?

00:57:58.760 How do you say it again?

00:58:00.000 The,

00:58:00.280 Hippodromo.

00:58:01.160 Hippodromo.

00:58:01.520 Hippodromo.

00:58:01.600 Hippodromo.

00:58:01.620 Hippodromo de las Américas.

00:58:04.640 Hippodromo de las Américas.

00:58:07.560 Hippodromo.

00:58:08.600 Down,

00:58:09.060 a little bit more down.

00:58:09.860 You'll see it.

00:58:10.500 That one.

00:58:11.060 No.

00:58:12.100 The one next.

00:58:13.740 No.

00:58:14.620 Sorry.

00:58:14.940 Down.

00:58:15.960 No.

00:58:16.260 That one.

00:58:18.320 Oh,

00:58:18.800 Hippodromo de las Américas.

00:58:21.060 Mm-hmm.

00:58:22.160 Yeah.

00:58:22.380 So that's the big place,

00:58:23.520 huh?

00:58:23.800 Yeah.

00:58:24.140 So.

00:58:24.260 And it's only in Mexico City.

00:58:25.540 It's only in Mexico City.

00:58:26.640 So.

00:58:26.860 So you went there.

00:58:27.760 Yeah.

00:58:28.040 As soon as I finished my school.

00:58:29.980 Did you play any other sports in school or anything?

00:58:31.900 I used to play soccer,

00:58:32.840 goalie,

00:58:33.320 you know,

00:58:33.600 but I was so small,

00:58:34.560 yeah,

00:58:34.780 with my friends.

00:58:35.300 God damn you must have been.

00:58:36.720 Yeah.

00:58:36.920 That would be the craziest.

00:58:38.300 Yeah.

00:58:38.700 Who would put you as the goalie?

00:58:40.340 I know.

00:58:40.700 Not to say that,

00:58:41.400 but he says.

00:58:41.840 Hey,

00:58:41.880 we have one of the best goalies on Mexico,

00:58:44.520 Jorge Campos.

00:58:45.340 You do?

00:58:45.620 He was smart.

00:58:46.380 Oh,

00:58:46.500 he was?

00:58:46.960 Yeah,

00:58:47.180 he was smart.

00:58:48.040 Oh,

00:58:48.380 wow.

00:58:48.720 So maybe you're,

00:58:49.460 look,

00:58:49.880 what do I know,

00:58:50.620 man?

00:58:50.920 Yeah,

00:58:51.220 come on.

00:58:52.660 So,

00:58:53.100 yeah.

00:58:53.840 So.

00:58:54.540 Jorge Campos.

00:58:55.700 Let me see him.

00:58:56.520 Yeah,

00:58:56.800 see?

00:58:57.120 Oh,

00:58:57.480 he's a legend,

00:58:58.220 huh?

00:58:58.440 Yeah.

00:59:00.680 I want a picture of him in goal.

00:59:06.840 He's a flashy guy,

00:59:07.880 huh?

00:59:07.980 I like the colors he has.

00:59:08.720 Yeah,

00:59:08.900 he like the colors.

00:59:09.820 Oh,

00:59:10.140 that was like,

00:59:10.780 I remember when I was growing up,

00:59:12.120 that was like,

00:59:12.660 everybody wanted to be.

00:59:13.760 Jorge Campos?

00:59:14.780 Jorge Campos.

00:59:18.760 That's cool,

00:59:19.420 man.

00:59:20.540 So,

00:59:21.080 yeah.

00:59:21.320 Okay,

00:59:21.560 so then you get there.

00:59:22.800 So I asked my dad,

00:59:23.780 I said like,

00:59:24.160 dad,

00:59:24.360 I really don't want to go to school,

00:59:27.000 you know?

00:59:27.300 I really want to go and,

00:59:28.540 you know,

00:59:28.860 challenge myself,

00:59:29.620 try it.

00:59:30.240 You just,

00:59:30.720 please give me one year.

00:59:32.020 I was,

00:59:32.540 I was like,

00:59:33.040 I was begging him for one year opportunity.

00:59:35.440 And then I convinced him.

00:59:37.120 I packed my stuff and I went to Mexico City.

00:59:41.140 And yeah.

00:59:42.080 Was it scary or no?

00:59:43.100 It was very,

00:59:43.720 well,

00:59:44.960 it was,

00:59:45.660 but like,

00:59:46.120 you know,

00:59:46.340 when you're so young and you really want,

00:59:47.860 you don't really think about that,

00:59:49.220 you know?

00:59:49.460 I wasn't thinking,

00:59:50.460 how was it going to be when I was at,

00:59:52.060 my,

00:59:52.340 my,

00:59:52.620 my goal was like,

00:59:53.380 I just want to convince my dad to let me go,

00:59:55.620 right?

00:59:55.800 That I really want this,

00:59:56.820 right?

00:59:57.260 So I convinced him.

00:59:59.140 So the moment that I got in Mexico City,

01:00:01.440 I was like,

01:00:02.440 geez,

01:00:02.740 okay,

01:00:02.960 now what?

01:00:03.940 You know?

01:00:04.380 Dude,

01:00:04.580 that's such a great statement.

01:00:05.920 It's so much when you're young,

01:00:07.300 you don't think about what it's going to be like when you get there.

01:00:09.620 You just think about what you're thinking about.

01:00:11.580 Yeah.

01:00:11.780 And that's one thing.

01:00:13.100 It's kind of a bummer as you get older,

01:00:14.440 you start thinking,

01:00:15.160 what is it going to be like when I get there?

01:00:16.740 Yeah.

01:00:17.100 Yeah.

01:00:17.260 That's actually,

01:00:18.020 I think that's one of the bummers,

01:00:19.320 you know,

01:00:19.500 we start thinking too much of like,

01:00:21.780 you know,

01:00:22.080 like,

01:00:22.580 I think that's probably what holds us a lot of people to like,

01:00:26.440 really go for what we really want,

01:00:28.460 you know?

01:00:28.900 Yeah.

01:00:29.120 Cause you're right.

01:00:29.540 When you're young,

01:00:29.880 like,

01:00:30.060 I just got to get there and then I'll see what happens,

01:00:32.520 you know?

01:00:33.180 Okay.

01:00:33.540 So you get there and how do you get into the race?

01:00:35.880 Has your dad already agented you onto a horse or how,

01:00:39.100 what's going on?

01:00:39.760 No,

01:00:39.940 that my dad had,

01:00:40.700 my dad stayed home,

01:00:41.580 you know?

01:00:41.760 So now I'm like,

01:00:42.560 you know,

01:00:42.780 my,

01:00:43.040 like,

01:00:43.520 um,

01:00:43.820 even though we're known in our little town and like the,

01:00:46.500 my,

01:00:46.960 the region that we were like much racing,

01:00:49.140 you know,

01:00:49.360 my dad stays home,

01:00:50.380 you know,

01:00:50.640 I'll go by myself to the,

01:00:51.960 to the racetrack.

01:00:53.120 You're grande pescado in your,

01:00:54.500 in your town.

01:00:55.180 Yeah.

01:00:55.640 So now I'm going there.

01:00:59.120 About how I was going to do things,

01:01:00.580 you know?

01:01:00.840 So,

01:01:01.700 uh,

01:01:01.960 all of a sudden I'm,

01:01:02.960 I,

01:01:03.380 I,

01:01:03.680 I am in Mexico city.

01:01:05.360 I want to go to the,

01:01:06.700 I want to somehow ride horses in Mexico city.

01:01:10.120 And then,

01:01:10.860 uh,

01:01:11.520 I'm like,

01:01:11.960 okay,

01:01:12.180 well,

01:01:12.360 I guess I go to the,

01:01:13.220 I go to the racetrack.

01:01:14.640 Right.

01:01:15.120 So I go to the racetrack.

01:01:16.660 I'm like asking people,

01:01:18.420 Hey,

01:01:18.620 how do you get in the racetrack?

01:01:19.960 Blah,

01:01:20.100 blah,

01:01:20.220 blah.

01:01:20.460 You know,

01:01:20.680 they,

01:01:20.880 Oh,

01:01:21.040 there's this gay go to this gay.

01:01:22.600 So I'm walking through the gay.

01:01:24.020 I have a garbage bag full of,

01:01:25.740 uh,

01:01:26.000 some,

01:01:26.400 um,

01:01:26.560 um,

01:01:27.700 my pictures and things like that to show people that in fact,

01:01:30.220 I'm like,

01:01:30.740 I'm legit.

01:01:31.240 I can ride horses.

01:01:31.980 Right.

01:01:32.680 So,

01:01:33.000 and there is a,

01:01:33.760 a security guard in there and be like,

01:01:35.580 okay,

01:01:35.840 I want to go in.

01:01:36.640 And he's like,

01:01:36.920 where's your license?

01:01:38.000 I'm like,

01:01:38.400 well,

01:01:38.700 I don't have a license.

01:01:39.960 You know,

01:01:40.300 this is like Rudy.

01:01:41.060 It's like Rudy,

01:01:41.660 Ruth the airs.

01:01:45.020 So,

01:01:45.380 uh,

01:01:46.300 I'm like,

01:01:47.200 well,

01:01:47.880 you know,

01:01:48.220 like,

01:01:48.480 but I want to,

01:01:49.160 I want to work.

01:01:49.740 How do I do that?

01:01:50.440 And he's like,

01:01:50.840 Oh,

01:01:51.000 you first have to get a license.

01:01:52.280 And the guy doesn't give me any information on how to,

01:01:54.600 he never does.

01:01:55.360 Yeah.

01:01:55.800 God,

01:01:56.220 you know,

01:01:56.740 so now I'm like,

01:01:57.640 he sent me back.

01:01:59.200 He doesn't care.

01:01:59.860 Yeah.

01:02:00.200 So somebody else told me there is like multiple entries.

01:02:02.840 So like,

01:02:03.540 uh,

01:02:03.700 the next day I go try another one,

01:02:05.740 same thing happens.

01:02:06.800 They reject me.

01:02:07.440 And finally I land to,

01:02:08.800 uh,

01:02:09.000 to,

01:02:09.340 uh,

01:02:09.440 to a gate where like the guy is somewhere kind of nice,

01:02:12.900 you know?

01:02:13.540 And then he told me,

01:02:14.600 no,

01:02:14.820 you know what,

01:02:15.480 you know,

01:02:15.740 like,

01:02:16.100 um,

01:02:17.340 come tell them,

01:02:18.760 you know,

01:02:19.140 the come tomorrow,

01:02:20.200 I'll let you in tomorrow.

01:02:21.480 And then you're going to go to the stewards.

01:02:23.740 That's the judges.

01:02:24.600 You know,

01:02:24.880 everybody.

01:02:25.400 And then I just tell them what you want to do and things like that.

01:02:28.440 You know,

01:02:28.680 you want to.

01:02:28.820 And are there other guys like you trying to get in there?

01:02:30.940 Are you seeing?

01:02:31.580 no,

01:02:31.760 I don't think,

01:02:32.220 no,

01:02:32.360 I guess everybody.

01:02:33.160 Now I know once I got in,

01:02:35.160 you know,

01:02:35.420 the,

01:02:35.740 how you get into the racetrack is like you,

01:02:37.380 you,

01:02:37.980 there is,

01:02:38.340 you have to have somebody in the racetrack that kind of brings you in,

01:02:41.100 you know,

01:02:41.340 like,

01:02:41.660 like,

01:02:41.880 even if it's like a writer,

01:02:43.720 a person that is an exercise writer,

01:02:46.040 you know,

01:02:46.320 or a trainer,

01:02:47.240 they can bring you in and be like,

01:02:48.420 Hey,

01:02:48.800 you know,

01:02:49.040 I want you to introduce you to this.

01:02:50.420 So I want you to be a jockey and things like that.

01:02:52.300 You know,

01:02:53.020 I didn't know anybody there.

01:02:54.200 So I,

01:02:54.500 I just,

01:02:55.060 so I go.

01:02:56.800 It's like trick or treating.

01:02:57.920 Yeah.

01:02:57.940 He knew three security guards and two were assholes.

01:03:02.020 I know.

01:03:02.360 Exactly.

01:03:03.200 Exactly.

01:03:04.280 So finally I,

01:03:05.520 I went into this.

01:03:06.880 It's good to know,

01:03:07.640 first of all,

01:03:07.940 that security guards are assholes everywhere.

01:03:09.800 That's the best thing to know.

01:03:10.840 Yeah.

01:03:11.100 That they do their job.

01:03:11.880 No matter what country,

01:03:12.940 where it is,

01:03:13.800 they're the same guy.

01:03:15.000 Yeah,

01:03:15.540 exactly.

01:03:16.240 Okay.

01:03:16.520 So you go in,

01:03:17.360 so you finally,

01:03:17.940 you get in front of the right people.

01:03:19.580 Yeah.

01:03:19.980 Well,

01:03:20.180 no,

01:03:20.420 they weren't even the right people.

01:03:21.780 I went to the judge,

01:03:22.680 you know,

01:03:22.920 to the,

01:03:23.220 to the stewards.

01:03:24.140 We call them stewards,

01:03:25.080 you know,

01:03:25.240 the ones that,

01:03:26.020 the regulate,

01:03:26.840 and make the rules to apply to the trainers and everybody.

01:03:31.320 So I went to their office and they're like,

01:03:33.360 okay,

01:03:33.560 I hear you want to,

01:03:34.560 you know,

01:03:34.740 an interview with us.

01:03:35.600 And I'm like,

01:03:35.980 yeah,

01:03:36.160 yeah.

01:03:36.360 I want to be able to,

01:03:37.720 you know,

01:03:38.020 to,

01:03:38.460 I want a license.

01:03:39.260 I want to ride horses.

01:03:40.160 I want to know like,

01:03:41.040 and they were like looking at me and I guess nobody does it my way,

01:03:44.480 you know,

01:03:45.140 or the way I was doing it.

01:03:46.560 And they're like,

01:03:47.280 oh kid,

01:03:47.760 no,

01:03:47.900 you're super lost.

01:03:48.660 It's like,

01:03:49.040 you know,

01:03:49.280 this is what you have to do.

01:03:50.640 You have to go to each barn.

01:03:52.260 You know,

01:03:52.500 you have to first try to land a job.

01:03:54.740 Let's see whoever employs you.

01:03:56.840 You know,

01:03:57.360 to be an exercise rider or to be,

01:04:00.220 to ride a pony to like,

01:04:01.800 you first you have to have a job,

01:04:03.220 you know,

01:04:03.740 once somebody is willing to employ you,

01:04:05.920 then you can come.

01:04:07.240 He's going to have to sign some papers and like,

01:04:09.820 that's how you're going to get a license.

01:04:11.580 So I'm like,

01:04:12.440 he's like,

01:04:12.780 so I encourage you to go to each barn and just like knock on the door and

01:04:16.840 see who,

01:04:17.920 who,

01:04:18.400 who.

01:04:18.600 So then you're going barn to barn,

01:04:19.840 huh?

01:04:20.320 And you found someone.

01:04:21.240 I found someone that the same day I found someone that they was like,

01:04:24.840 okay,

01:04:25.080 I'll give you a chance,

01:04:25.980 you know?

01:04:26.560 And then it went well.

01:04:28.000 It went well.

01:04:28.820 It went well.

01:04:29.420 Like I got,

01:04:29.900 I got my license.

01:04:31.060 I had to,

01:04:32.380 I thought it went well for me.

01:04:33.780 You know,

01:04:34.020 I got to like exercise rider,

01:04:36.240 exercise horses in the morning for him,

01:04:38.160 you know?

01:04:38.460 And then,

01:04:39.580 and then,

01:04:39.600 and then that provided me somewhere to sleep.

01:04:42.580 I live,

01:04:43.280 I was living at the Mexico city racetrack for like six,

01:04:47.260 my first six months.

01:04:48.360 And do they have like lodging for the riders and stuff?

01:04:51.340 No.

01:04:52.260 Where were you guys sleeping over there?

01:04:53.340 I was sleeping on the stove.

01:04:54.800 Really?

01:04:55.200 Yeah.

01:04:55.560 On the stove?

01:04:56.360 No,

01:04:56.620 on the stove,

01:04:57.080 stable.

01:04:57.640 Oh,

01:04:57.760 on the stove?

01:04:58.460 Really?

01:04:59.700 In like hay or something?

01:05:01.220 There was like a little like camping little mattress that was there,

01:05:05.460 you know?

01:05:05.880 Like,

01:05:06.180 and was there a lot of guys in there?

01:05:07.600 No,

01:05:07.880 no,

01:05:08.120 I would shoot myself.

01:05:09.300 I guess because I'm coming from a small town,

01:05:11.480 right?

01:05:11.780 So everybody's from the city.

01:05:13.060 So I didn't know where I,

01:05:14.160 I don't have any words to go.

01:05:16.600 Dang.

01:05:17.020 It's so wild.

01:05:17.840 It's interesting that like stories from Mexico are now like stories from America,

01:05:22.320 like 50 years ago or seven years ago.

01:05:24.480 You know what I'm saying?

01:05:24.880 It's just interesting.

01:05:26.000 Yeah.

01:05:26.400 That's interesting,

01:05:27.140 man.

01:05:27.500 So that happened,

01:05:28.100 but like quickly I,

01:05:29.520 I went there and in 2005,

01:05:31.280 I was able like to ride my very first race in Mexico city.

01:05:35.820 At the hip podron?

01:05:37.420 Yeah.

01:05:38.120 Wow.

01:05:38.860 It didn't go well.

01:05:39.800 It didn't?

01:05:40.280 Yeah.

01:05:41.000 No.

01:05:41.780 I finished last probably by a lot.

01:05:44.060 And did you feel like what happened?

01:05:46.780 Well,

01:05:47.280 this,

01:05:47.540 I remember the trainer.

01:05:48.660 Now I,

01:05:49.020 now I had changed like different burns.

01:05:51.140 I,

01:05:51.280 I think that now,

01:05:52.140 now when I was getting ready to,

01:05:53.600 to,

01:05:53.840 to finally debut,

01:05:55.080 do my debut,

01:05:57.240 um,

01:05:58.500 the guy had me some pump and he was like,

01:06:00.240 kid,

01:06:00.940 you know,

01:06:01.340 I'm going to,

01:06:02.520 when I put you on a horse,

01:06:04.040 I'm going to make sure at least you finish top four.

01:06:07.580 You know,

01:06:07.880 you don't have to,

01:06:08.440 you're going to finish top four,

01:06:09.560 you know?

01:06:09.740 And I was so pumped.

01:06:10.840 So finally,

01:06:11.260 you know,

01:06:12.140 when I was walking into the Yoki's room and I was like,

01:06:14.720 I was so excited.

01:06:15.760 I was like doing this and everything.

01:06:17.760 I was so excited.

01:06:18.920 You have an 11 rosaries.

01:06:20.740 Oh yeah.

01:06:21.240 Yeah,

01:06:21.600 exactly.

01:06:22.020 So I'm going to the race and the guy,

01:06:24.660 the trainer told me,

01:06:25.480 you know,

01:06:25.640 I don't want you to do anything.

01:06:26.820 I want you to look down and just push your horse,

01:06:29.020 try to change whips,

01:06:30.240 you know,

01:06:30.580 like change you,

01:06:31.440 you whipped from the right to left,

01:06:33.420 left to right.

01:06:34.160 You know,

01:06:34.420 I want you to look pretty.

01:06:35.420 I want people to look at you and you,

01:06:36.960 I want you to look good.

01:06:37.720 You know,

01:06:38.380 don't look,

01:06:38.940 don't worry about anything else,

01:06:40.620 you know?

01:06:40.840 Yeah.

01:06:41.060 Yeah.

01:06:41.160 So I'm,

01:06:41.640 I'm pumped.

01:06:42.580 I'm going to finish top four.

01:06:44.220 So I'm,

01:06:44.860 he's not guaranteeing me I was going to win,

01:06:46.780 but I'm,

01:06:47.240 I'm,

01:06:47.480 I'm pumped.

01:06:47.980 Right.

01:06:48.180 So race goes,

01:06:49.480 you know,

01:06:49.720 we're coming down the stretch and I'm like putting my head down and I start

01:06:53.140 riding my horse and I'm switching sticks,

01:06:55.620 everything.

01:06:56.140 I finally see the wire.

01:06:58.080 I'm going to stop my horse.

01:06:59.660 And I got,

01:07:00.580 I'm not even kidding you.

01:07:02.540 There is some,

01:07:03.360 I'm not even kidding you.

01:07:04.800 There is some horses were coming back.

01:07:08.600 I was like,

01:07:09.680 I was so devastated.

01:07:11.320 I was like,

01:07:11.780 I wanted to go home.

01:07:13.220 I was like,

01:07:13.760 Oh,

01:07:14.080 maybe I should go right.

01:07:15.380 Maybe I should just worry.

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01:10:28.300 Okay, so then you get up to,

01:10:29.380 so how do you get up to Canada then,

01:10:30.800 and why Canada?

01:10:32.080 Well, because I got the opportunity,

01:10:33.500 but then, like I said,

01:10:34.380 then it took me a while to people to know me

01:10:37.040 and start giving me the chance,

01:10:37.980 but once people give me the chance in Mexico City,

01:10:40.280 I started doing really good.

01:10:41.500 Okay, so you started picking up steam.

01:10:42.700 Picking up steam, like, right away, you know.

01:10:44.480 I finished Top Apprentice on 2005,

01:10:49.120 and I finished Top Apprentice in 2016,

01:10:51.720 and I only wrote 2016,

01:10:54.260 like, maybe, like, half of the season.

01:10:56.120 2006.

01:10:57.020 2006, sorry.

01:10:58.200 Yeah.

01:10:59.960 To the mid-season,

01:11:01.180 because, like, on early 2016,

01:11:04.400 somebody from Canada came down to Mexico City

01:11:07.440 and asking, looking for an apprentice

01:11:13.800 and a professional writer.

01:11:16.140 Okay.

01:11:16.420 You know, so somebody said, like,

01:11:17.920 hey, there is a guy from Canada.

01:11:20.380 He's looking to bring some...

01:11:23.180 And he took you up there.

01:11:24.120 Yeah, he took me up there.

01:11:25.440 Was that cool?

01:11:26.300 That was really cool.

01:11:27.560 Well, it was,

01:11:28.420 the whole experience was cool.

01:11:29.880 Like, again,

01:11:30.500 you don't think about what you get,

01:11:32.040 how is it going to be there, right?

01:11:33.600 So now I'm excited.

01:11:34.980 I'm like, okay,

01:11:35.580 I called my dad.

01:11:37.980 I remember I called my dad.

01:11:39.120 I said, like,

01:11:39.460 hey, dad, what are you thinking?

01:11:40.320 And he's like,

01:11:40.700 well, you're doing this.

01:11:41.940 This is, I don't...

01:11:42.720 By this time, my dad is like,

01:11:43.820 I don't see you ever coming back to school,

01:11:45.680 so just go, go, go,

01:11:48.180 try to go all the way,

01:11:49.200 see how far you can go, right?

01:11:50.820 And is there money?

01:11:52.140 Are you making money there

01:11:53.280 in the Mexico City?

01:11:53.940 In Mexico City,

01:11:54.760 I was making...

01:11:55.260 Because, like I said,

01:11:55.920 look, we're very, very poor,

01:11:57.320 so I was making...

01:11:58.380 I thought I was like,

01:11:59.380 now I'm really helping my mom.

01:12:00.760 I'm finally buying some furniture

01:12:02.760 for the house,

01:12:04.260 you know, some cows,

01:12:05.080 some new TBs, you know.

01:12:06.980 I'm upgrading...

01:12:07.800 I'm helping my dad, my dad.

01:12:09.140 Like, now we're, like,

01:12:10.160 finally living,

01:12:11.280 and, like, you know,

01:12:11.640 we can buy shoes, you know.

01:12:13.220 Right, you're helping out.

01:12:14.000 Yeah, I'm helping out.

01:12:14.560 You're helping out.

01:12:15.440 So, yeah,

01:12:17.020 and like I said,

01:12:17.500 I'm picking up this team,

01:12:18.400 you know,

01:12:18.640 so I'm good right now, right?

01:12:21.260 So when this opportunity came,

01:12:24.000 you know,

01:12:24.360 everybody was like,

01:12:25.080 you know,

01:12:25.300 well, yeah,

01:12:25.680 we encourage you to go.

01:12:26.660 My dad...

01:12:27.540 Once my dad told me,

01:12:29.420 kind of it was good,

01:12:30.580 like, he gave me the...

01:12:31.480 Not the okay,

01:12:32.100 but kind of like the reinforcement

01:12:33.360 of, like,

01:12:33.900 you know,

01:12:34.380 like, do the jump.

01:12:35.820 I knew I was going, right?

01:12:37.420 So I had to wait for my papers,

01:12:39.100 my pieces.

01:12:39.180 And you have to ride up there

01:12:39.940 on a horse,

01:12:40.240 or you fly up there?

01:12:42.420 No, I flew there.

01:12:43.840 My first time in an airplane, too.

01:12:45.480 No.

01:12:45.760 So now, like,

01:12:47.620 it's finally like my day to go.

01:12:49.440 I remember I was so...

01:12:50.780 I was always like a mama's boy,

01:12:53.080 you know?

01:12:53.620 So I remember asking them

01:12:56.580 to please,

01:12:57.700 please come to Mexico City

01:12:59.240 and sleep with me

01:13:00.700 before I was gonna...

01:13:01.720 Before you go?

01:13:02.000 Before I go,

01:13:02.800 you know?

01:13:03.080 And you all slept there?

01:13:04.600 Well, in my room,

01:13:05.600 you know?

01:13:05.920 Okay, good.

01:13:06.040 They came and they stayed with me,

01:13:07.180 you know?

01:13:07.500 They came and they stayed with me.

01:13:07.960 Oh, yeah,

01:13:08.120 to wish you off, right?

01:13:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:09.680 And do you have siblings, too,

01:13:10.900 or no?

01:13:11.300 I have three siblings.

01:13:13.140 I have a younger brother

01:13:14.440 and two older sisters.

01:13:16.220 And do they ride or no?

01:13:17.200 No, no, nobody rides.

01:13:18.480 Is it a female sport as well,

01:13:19.760 or no?

01:13:20.040 Yeah, of course.

01:13:20.680 No, no, it's female.

01:13:21.400 We have female jockeys here

01:13:23.340 in California

01:13:26.180 and everywhere,

01:13:27.000 everywhere,

01:13:27.280 all the other.

01:13:28.080 And Mexico, not much,

01:13:29.540 but now my brother

01:13:31.280 now became an agent,

01:13:32.700 a jockey agent.

01:13:33.660 And yeah,

01:13:34.280 there's probably like seven girls

01:13:36.060 being jockeys in Mexico City.

01:13:38.140 Is he your agent yet,

01:13:39.080 your brother?

01:13:39.880 No.

01:13:40.360 Okay.

01:13:40.740 No, no, he has to improve a lot.

01:13:46.300 Dude, put Nick on a horse

01:13:47.680 or put me on a rehab, dude.

01:13:49.620 I'll see what I come in.

01:13:52.600 So, yeah,

01:13:53.500 that's how I ended up in Canada

01:13:55.680 with no money.

01:13:57.760 I took,

01:13:58.920 I don't know,

01:13:59.340 I think I took like

01:14:00.100 10,000 pesos.

01:14:03.060 And my goal was like,

01:14:04.260 with this 10,000 pesos,

01:14:06.460 I'm going to exchange

01:14:08.100 for Canadian money

01:14:09.060 and then I'm supposed

01:14:11.660 to have an agent,

01:14:12.820 I'm supposed to have

01:14:13.660 a place to stay

01:14:14.480 and I'm supposed

01:14:15.020 to have a car

01:14:15.820 to travel around, right?

01:14:17.660 This is what they offer me.

01:14:19.020 This is what they told me.

01:14:20.080 About 500 bucks you had.

01:14:21.720 Yeah, well,

01:14:22.560 when I got there,

01:14:23.740 I exchanged all my money.

01:14:26.240 I think I got like 400,

01:14:27.500 450 back in the day,

01:14:29.040 you know,

01:14:29.200 something like that.

01:14:29.760 I don't know,

01:14:30.380 but less,

01:14:31.060 no more than 400.

01:14:33.360 So,

01:14:33.980 there is like

01:14:35.400 no agent,

01:14:37.360 there is no place to stay.

01:14:38.540 So,

01:14:38.760 they go

01:14:39.120 and they put me

01:14:40.000 in this hotel

01:14:40.880 very close to the racetrack.

01:14:42.800 Now,

01:14:43.100 I know it's very close.

01:14:43.860 I didn't even know

01:14:44.480 where the racetrack was

01:14:45.260 back in those days,

01:14:46.560 you know?

01:14:47.140 I had to pay

01:14:47.940 for my own hotel,

01:14:48.900 right?

01:14:49.560 So,

01:14:49.780 I stayed there

01:14:50.500 three nights

01:14:51.200 and all my money,

01:14:52.520 basically,

01:14:53.060 I just spent my money

01:14:54.660 in the hotel.

01:14:56.260 And then,

01:14:57.200 I had no food.

01:14:59.860 I don't speak English.

01:15:01.620 I basically was living

01:15:03.000 on like chips

01:15:04.060 from a vending machine.

01:15:05.580 Somehow,

01:15:06.400 I knew

01:15:06.840 what a vending machine was.

01:15:08.040 What kind of chips was it?

01:15:08.960 You remember?

01:15:10.300 Potato chips

01:15:11.360 and like some other

01:15:12.300 type of chips.

01:15:13.140 I don't know.

01:15:13.840 I was drinking water.

01:15:15.200 I do Fritos.

01:15:15.480 If I do a vending machine,

01:15:16.440 I do Fritos.

01:15:17.700 I don't even think Fritos

01:15:18.540 were in Canada

01:15:19.220 back in the day.

01:15:20.460 They might not have been.

01:15:21.400 You know what?

01:15:21.740 You could be right about that.

01:15:22.440 So,

01:15:22.580 I was starving for three days.

01:15:24.140 But that helps your weight,

01:15:27.100 dude,

01:15:27.260 so you get on a horse.

01:15:27.860 I'm pretty sure

01:15:28.420 I got super light,

01:15:29.280 you know?

01:15:29.880 Yeah,

01:15:30.360 so I was like,

01:15:31.240 God damn it.

01:15:31.820 You show up at nine pounds,

01:15:33.300 ten ounces on a horse.

01:15:34.540 Yeah,

01:15:34.560 exactly.

01:15:35.800 This is really funny

01:15:36.740 because finally,

01:15:37.680 my agent shows up

01:15:38.960 and now he's taking me

01:15:39.840 to the racetrack,

01:15:40.600 right?

01:15:41.220 Oh,

01:15:41.460 that's exactly what,

01:15:42.500 now this is a typical agent.

01:15:43.900 That's just like Hollywood.

01:15:44.860 They show up

01:15:45.500 just when it's time

01:15:46.440 for you to try

01:15:46.920 and make some money.

01:15:47.680 Okay,

01:15:48.080 yeah,

01:15:48.280 so he took me

01:15:49.080 to the racetrack

01:15:49.920 and then

01:15:51.140 he showed me the racetrack

01:15:52.860 and when I look

01:15:53.920 at the racetrack,

01:15:54.540 I was like,

01:15:56.140 I'm used to

01:15:57.420 Mexico City

01:15:58.100 run right

01:15:59.460 in a mile racetrack,

01:16:01.040 you know,

01:16:01.280 a mile.

01:16:01.820 This racetrack

01:16:02.840 is five foot lengths.

01:16:04.340 It's like,

01:16:05.160 compared to a mile racetrack,

01:16:06.360 now you were like

01:16:07.000 in a very tiny circle

01:16:08.380 and I was like,

01:16:09.600 oh,

01:16:10.060 this is the racetrack?

01:16:11.600 And I'm like,

01:16:12.340 Jesus,

01:16:12.980 what am I doing here,

01:16:14.120 you know?

01:16:15.140 And I was like,

01:16:15.800 okay.

01:16:16.580 And right then in my head

01:16:17.800 I made my plan,

01:16:18.660 I was like,

01:16:18.940 no,

01:16:19.080 I'm going to ride one week,

01:16:20.320 if I win,

01:16:21.240 whatever I win,

01:16:22.340 buy my ticket,

01:16:23.380 I'm going back,

01:16:24.120 I'm out of here,

01:16:24.660 I'm not going to stay here,

01:16:25.640 you know?

01:16:26.200 So that's what happened,

01:16:27.080 I rode there,

01:16:28.120 the first week,

01:16:29.260 I won like four races,

01:16:31.040 something like that,

01:16:31.780 you know?

01:16:32.420 And then I couldn't wait

01:16:34.200 for like payday,

01:16:35.440 right?

01:16:36.060 And then I was like,

01:16:36.920 okay,

01:16:37.160 where's the check?

01:16:38.200 So they come with the news

01:16:39.420 and be like,

01:16:39.860 no,

01:16:40.060 we pay here every 15,

01:16:41.840 every two weeks.

01:16:42.760 So I'm like,

01:16:43.380 oh,

01:16:43.600 God damn it,

01:16:44.240 I had to stay another week.

01:16:45.780 You had to stay another week.

01:16:46.540 And I had to stay another week.

01:16:47.720 Okay,

01:16:48.400 I'll wait another week.

01:16:50.900 I wait another week,

01:16:52.140 win another four races,

01:16:53.440 I don't know how many races I won,

01:16:54.900 but I know when the check came,

01:16:57.120 it says like around like 16,000,

01:16:59.260 15,000,

01:17:00.020 something like that.

01:17:00.720 Wow.

01:17:01.480 And then the first thing I did

01:17:02.780 is like go to the calculator,

01:17:04.880 how many pesos are these things,

01:17:06.760 you know?

01:17:07.100 And it was a lot of pesos

01:17:08.680 and I was like,

01:17:09.360 I'm going to stay here.

01:17:10.860 Wow.

01:17:11.300 I'm going to stay here,

01:17:12.380 this is not too bad.

01:17:14.080 That's crazy,

01:17:15.160 man.

01:17:15.340 And so you stayed in Canada

01:17:16.220 for how long?

01:17:16.940 I stayed in Canada

01:17:17.740 all the way up to 2011.

01:17:20.760 That's cool.

01:17:21.460 I love Canada,

01:17:22.340 man.

01:17:22.600 So nice.

01:17:23.440 He's in Vancouver too.

01:17:24.440 Vancouver.

01:17:25.200 Oh yeah,

01:17:25.680 Vancouver's cool,

01:17:26.460 man.

01:17:26.660 Kitts Beach or something,

01:17:27.580 is that out there?

01:17:28.860 It's a different,

01:17:29.560 it's not,

01:17:29.840 it's not,

01:17:30.380 it's not,

01:17:31.040 that's not the name of the beach.

01:17:32.500 St. Kitts or something?

01:17:33.700 Is there a Kitts?

01:17:34.420 I should know.

01:17:37.160 I live there like a,

01:17:38.920 yeah,

01:17:39.200 you probably,

01:17:39.620 I shouldn't know,

01:17:40.640 but I'm horrible.

01:17:41.200 But do you go to the beach there sometime?

01:17:42.460 Like they have like rocks

01:17:43.240 and like people biking

01:17:45.140 and everything and stuff.

01:17:45.920 Biking and everything,

01:17:46.680 yeah.

01:17:46.900 A lot of lakes too.

01:17:48.200 I love Canada,

01:17:48.880 yeah.

01:17:49.600 And the people are so friendly.

01:17:50.220 People are super nice.

01:17:51.920 People are super nice.

01:17:53.220 People are so nice in Canada,

01:17:54.420 man.

01:17:54.640 I don't know how they did it.

01:17:56.080 Now they can't solve this COVID thing.

01:17:57.620 Canada's still closed from COVID.

01:17:59.280 Has Mexico been closed for COVID?

01:18:00.840 I don't think they never really closed.

01:18:02.760 I don't think they never really closed.

01:18:03.940 Dude,

01:18:04.200 America,

01:18:04.580 it's the biggest bunch of,

01:18:05.660 I feel like it's such the biggest bullshit.

01:18:07.580 I used to have those talks

01:18:08.600 when this COVID began,

01:18:10.060 you know,

01:18:10.300 because I was like,

01:18:11.020 I was acting,

01:18:11.900 everybody was really following a lot

01:18:13.420 and I was following a lot

01:18:14.520 what's happening in Mexico

01:18:15.540 and I hear like the new president talk

01:18:17.560 and how he was like,

01:18:19.060 you know,

01:18:19.820 his explanation for this virus

01:18:22.620 and everything like that

01:18:23.600 and his reason why

01:18:25.900 he wouldn't close the borders.

01:18:27.360 Yeah,

01:18:27.740 people will be some restriction

01:18:29.700 but he would not close the borders,

01:18:31.120 you know.

01:18:31.820 And then I was like,

01:18:33.580 why can United States do this?

01:18:35.240 And even my wife was like,

01:18:36.500 you know,

01:18:37.260 this president doesn't know

01:18:38.380 what he's doing,

01:18:39.280 you know,

01:18:39.660 he's gonna like,

01:18:40.500 because the healthcare system in Mexico

01:18:42.140 is not the same as here,

01:18:44.640 right?

01:18:45.140 So I was like,

01:18:46.460 well,

01:18:46.640 we'll see.

01:18:47.140 We'll choose,

01:18:47.560 we'll see,

01:18:48.040 right?

01:18:48.480 And it's fine.

01:18:49.160 It's fine.

01:18:50.260 Unbelievable.

01:18:51.720 It's unbelievable,

01:18:52.860 man,

01:18:53.020 what they do here.

01:18:53.280 But you can even see it here,

01:18:54.480 like you look Florida,

01:18:55.620 you look Texas,

01:18:56.480 you look,

01:18:56.800 yeah.

01:18:57.320 Or even,

01:18:57.900 even,

01:18:58.360 even California,

01:18:59.460 you know,

01:18:59.720 like how many,

01:19:00.700 you know,

01:19:02.680 we went like super crazy,

01:19:04.620 shut everything down.

01:19:05.960 Now that everything is going back to normal,

01:19:08.400 you know.

01:19:10.260 Everything's fine.

01:19:11.020 Everything is fine,

01:19:12.060 you know.

01:19:12.640 Yeah,

01:19:12.780 and it's weird.

01:19:13.220 Everything just suddenly back

01:19:14.260 and everything.

01:19:14.620 Yeah,

01:19:14.800 it's like nothing really changed,

01:19:16.400 right?

01:19:16.600 Like even in our job now,

01:19:18.440 like going into Delmar season in San Diego,

01:19:22.420 now they're,

01:19:23.760 it seems that it's gonna,

01:19:24.780 it's nice,

01:19:25.320 but now for us in this regarding to COVID,

01:19:27.860 it's almost like that.

01:19:28.700 Now they,

01:19:29.140 they say they're not forcing us

01:19:30.840 to get the vaccine,

01:19:32.500 but they really are.

01:19:34.040 Because now it's like,

01:19:35.900 if I want to go and do my normal training

01:19:38.800 in the mornings,

01:19:39.600 I have to be vaccinated.

01:19:41.860 Oh yeah.

01:19:42.480 Otherwise,

01:19:42.880 I'm not going to be allowed to go in the mornings

01:19:45.020 and train.

01:19:45.400 I'm going to be allowed to race,

01:19:47.020 but I need to be in a separate room.

01:19:49.960 And to me,

01:19:51.360 look,

01:19:51.600 I'm not educated,

01:19:52.540 highly educated or anything,

01:19:53.580 but to me,

01:19:53.960 it's like,

01:19:55.340 we're all the same family.

01:19:57.320 We're riding here in Santa Anita.

01:19:59.220 Nobody's getting tested.

01:20:00.240 What's different for right now?

01:20:02.100 Why is it going to,

01:20:02.760 it has to be so strict in Delmar

01:20:04.580 than what it is right now.

01:20:06.680 So,

01:20:06.980 but now it does,

01:20:07.920 those are the rules

01:20:08.740 and we need to apply to the rules.

01:20:11.040 It's the same thing.

01:20:11.860 This guy,

01:20:12.200 Cole Beasley,

01:20:12.780 who plays for,

01:20:13.460 I think Buffalo now,

01:20:14.680 he just said the same thing,

01:20:16.860 that he's allowed,

01:20:17.640 he's a wide receiver for NFL,

01:20:19.300 for American football.

01:20:21.020 And he has to,

01:20:22.240 he doesn't want to get vaccinated,

01:20:24.440 but now he has to like practice separate.

01:20:26.400 It's just ridiculous.

01:20:27.440 But why?

01:20:28.300 He can play,

01:20:29.000 but he's still allowed to play in the game.

01:20:30.420 I know.

01:20:31.500 It's just crazy.

01:20:32.300 It's like right now,

01:20:33.220 right now,

01:20:33.920 I'm allowed to go in the morning,

01:20:35.160 do my,

01:20:35.400 and we're not testing,

01:20:37.580 you know,

01:20:37.920 we're just,

01:20:38.460 we're still,

01:20:39.160 we're not doing anything,

01:20:40.820 you know,

01:20:41.860 you know,

01:20:42.140 even the restaurants,

01:20:42.980 you know,

01:20:43.220 why can't you just,

01:20:44.580 if everything is open up,

01:20:45.640 I think they're going to have a little bit of restrictions.

01:20:47.800 I don't know.

01:20:48.320 Well,

01:20:48.480 it's just,

01:20:48.920 it's also crazy.

01:20:49.660 Like the mask mandate's lifted in LA,

01:20:51.660 right?

01:20:53.700 Also in Tennessee,

01:20:54.620 but if you're on an airplane,

01:20:56.320 you have to have a mask on in between.

01:20:59.280 It's like for what?

01:21:00.340 And also the whole time,

01:21:01.440 like,

01:21:01.560 so I've been living in Tennessee a lot during the pandemic.

01:21:03.980 And like everyone in Florida,

01:21:05.400 isn't dead.

01:21:06.040 Everyone in Tennessee actually has been having a great time.

01:21:08.880 And it's just,

01:21:09.900 I don't know.

01:21:11.480 It doesn't really make any sense.

01:21:12.880 You could say whatever you want about the science,

01:21:14.900 but even the,

01:21:15.980 if you test the science in reality,

01:21:17.800 which is how you create science,

01:21:19.580 with hypothesis,

01:21:22.780 certainly huge cities,

01:21:23.960 not getting sick.

01:21:25.120 Yeah.

01:21:25.780 Has to be a valid test.

01:21:27.940 Yeah.

01:21:28.260 No,

01:21:28.600 definitely.

01:21:29.200 But it's amazing that Mexico didn't even shut down.

01:21:31.100 I knew that.

01:21:32.140 I knew they didn't.

01:21:33.680 I'm thinking to myself,

01:21:34.780 like I've been to Mexico.

01:21:36.200 I've been to like,

01:21:37.060 there were some restrictions,

01:21:38.300 but there was like,

01:21:38.940 but you were allowed,

01:21:39.980 you were still allowed to go to,

01:21:41.400 to,

01:21:41.580 to cross the border and go.

01:21:44.460 And I'm sure there's still restaurants and things like that.

01:21:47.060 Yeah.

01:21:48.140 People who go to parties.

01:21:49.180 I was thinking,

01:21:50.040 I've been to Africa a couple of times.

01:21:50.940 Like,

01:21:51.300 I'm like,

01:21:51.720 you telling me that they wandered through Africa and got masks on everyone in Africa.

01:21:56.300 You're out of your mind.

01:21:59.100 It just all seemed kind of crazy.

01:22:01.960 Let's get into a couple more questions.

01:22:03.200 We have one right here that came in from these two.

01:22:05.100 Well,

01:22:05.460 here we go right here.

01:22:06.220 What are these called?

01:22:06.940 These,

01:22:07.080 these,

01:22:07.100 these,

01:22:07.120 these,

01:22:07.320 these,

01:22:08.180 track rack,

01:22:10.240 I don't know.

01:22:10.920 Track tricks.

01:22:11.900 I don't know what you call them.

01:22:12.640 Track rats.

01:22:13.380 Beautiful ladies.

01:22:14.500 I'm going to call them.

01:22:17.260 Hey Theo.

01:22:18.420 Hey Mario.

01:22:19.760 We just had a quick question.

01:22:21.220 We're from Louisville and we were just trying to figure out where all the rich horse trainers and owners hang out at.

01:22:26.820 Oh dang.

01:22:28.060 Is there any bars or restaurants or golf courses that we should start going to?

01:22:33.980 And Theo,

01:22:34.640 we'll see you September 18th to celebrate my best friend's 21st birthday in Cincinnati.

01:22:40.300 Oh,

01:22:40.660 congratulations.

01:22:41.260 Yeah.

01:22:41.660 The Cincinnati show is going to be great,

01:22:45.440 man.

01:22:46.380 Yeah.

01:22:46.780 I guess these ladies are looking to meet some of the owners.

01:22:48.920 How do they?

01:22:49.980 They had to somehow manage to get into suites and ready.

01:22:53.520 Yeah.

01:22:53.900 No,

01:22:54.140 like I say,

01:22:54.920 the people that own the horses,

01:22:57.080 they're like,

01:22:59.200 they're,

01:22:59.980 you know,

01:23:00.260 like a different level,

01:23:01.940 you know?

01:23:02.260 So,

01:23:02.440 yeah,

01:23:02.800 actually,

01:23:03.340 but now there is like a,

01:23:04.640 something popular.

01:23:05.720 They're doing like these syndicates,

01:23:07.460 you know,

01:23:07.700 like when there is like a group of people,

01:23:09.860 there is a guys,

01:23:10.740 there is a couple of guys that are doing it here in Santa Anita too,

01:23:13.440 where it's like,

01:23:13.880 there's two guys,

01:23:14.660 they get a bunch of people chipping a little bit of money and then they,

01:23:18.280 they're on like small pieces of a horse,

01:23:20.140 you know?

01:23:20.780 And then,

01:23:21.420 Oh,

01:23:21.580 interesting.

01:23:22.740 Could Theo just like buy a horse that is already,

01:23:26.660 I think he can afford a horse,

01:23:27.600 but that's already like,

01:23:28.520 I don't know about that.

01:23:29.220 I'll tell you this.

01:23:29.820 If I can,

01:23:30.460 I'll tell you what horse it is.

01:23:31.580 It's named Tom Thumb.

01:23:32.600 And I met him one time at the Pasadena Fair and it's the world.

01:23:34.560 You get to name your horse whatever you want.

01:23:36.480 Really?

01:23:36.720 Well,

01:23:36.740 actually you just have to,

01:23:38.320 you have to,

01:23:39.700 what is it?

01:23:41.120 Like there is,

01:23:41.660 we have some type of.

01:23:43.440 Oh,

01:23:43.720 you have to send the name,

01:23:44.660 send the name through a company and then they will give you the,

01:23:46.900 okay.

01:23:47.400 But there is a bunch of little tricks that you can,

01:23:50.160 you can do.

01:23:51.660 But could Theo just buy one that's already like trained and ready to go and then have

01:23:55.520 you as a rider?

01:23:57.460 There is different.

01:23:58.500 Like I said,

01:23:59.060 that's a really complicated to explain that because we have like all type of

01:24:02.340 races,

01:24:02.560 like in a whole car,

01:24:03.680 if I can show you up,

01:24:04.920 you know,

01:24:05.120 we have what it calls claiming racing.

01:24:07.400 Okay.

01:24:07.720 And then I think the lowest we have here in Santa Anita is like 25.

01:24:13.780 This is the horse I met right here.

01:24:15.340 And it's Tom Thumb.

01:24:17.160 This is him right there.

01:24:18.200 He is so tiny.

01:24:19.020 You may want to take him home.

01:24:20.160 That's a little four-legged superhero right there.

01:24:23.580 How long are you going to be here today for?

01:24:27.320 He'll be here all day.

01:24:29.060 How small is he?

01:24:30.480 De las grandes sonoras de Kansas,

01:24:32.560 el es más pequeño que algunas clases de pedazos.

01:24:35.160 Dang, boy.

01:24:35.740 Pedal es muy pequeño,

01:24:36.600 el es un caballito fresito.

01:24:39.760 And he's alive, too?

01:24:41.280 No, you got to give him a grate.

01:24:42.420 So someone can buy it.

01:24:46.820 Say, how does someone get in a claiming race?

01:24:48.520 What is that?

01:24:49.280 Oh, but that's kind of like the low-level races.

01:24:51.940 You know, horses,

01:24:52.460 they cannot compete in a lounge race.

01:24:54.360 You know,

01:24:54.660 they're a little bit lesser,

01:24:56.540 you know,

01:24:56.800 that you try to put them where they can win,

01:24:59.400 you know,

01:24:59.660 so you don't want to break the horse hard,

01:25:02.060 you know,

01:25:02.200 so you kind of had to first find where his level at

01:25:05.780 and then raise them there

01:25:06.860 so he can be competitive,

01:25:08.140 you know?

01:25:08.740 So there is,

01:25:09.600 I think it's 20-some thousand dollars,

01:25:11.880 the cheapest we have here.

01:25:13.080 Maybe,

01:25:13.340 maybe a little bit cheaper.

01:25:14.960 And then,

01:25:15.680 so you choose contact your trainer

01:25:19.540 or a trainer there

01:25:21.120 and say,

01:25:21.720 hey,

01:25:21.860 I'm so-and-so

01:25:22.520 and I want to claim a horse

01:25:23.640 and you can claim that horse.

01:25:25.020 And put him in the race?

01:25:26.860 Well,

01:25:27.480 you had to do this,

01:25:28.800 you had to do that while he's racing.

01:25:30.680 Oh.

01:25:31.560 So,

01:25:32.040 so after the race,

01:25:33.820 it's yours.

01:25:35.300 No,

01:25:35.580 if you put the claiming before,

01:25:36.900 before he's going to race,

01:25:38.720 right?

01:25:39.200 Uh-huh.

01:25:39.640 So,

01:25:40.720 now,

01:25:41.380 if the claimant goes through,

01:25:42.880 that means the horse,

01:25:43.640 nothing happens to the horse,

01:25:44.720 the horse clears the veterinarian

01:25:46.560 and everything

01:25:47.000 because they want to make sure

01:25:48.040 that the new owner gets a sound horse,

01:25:50.760 you know?

01:25:50.900 Okay.

01:25:51.320 So,

01:25:52.320 because you already put the claimant

01:25:53.600 and the horse came back from the race good,

01:25:55.260 now you won't,

01:25:56.360 it's yours.

01:25:57.040 Really?

01:25:57.380 You just pick him up?

01:25:58.000 That's it.

01:25:58.420 You just pick him up

01:25:59.220 and call your trainer

01:26:01.060 and get him going,

01:26:02.840 and get him going.

01:26:03.540 Damn.

01:26:03.860 That's how you do it.

01:26:05.340 That's what I said,

01:26:05.800 you can own the horse.

01:26:06.480 We could do it.

01:26:07.020 We have room here,

01:26:07.660 I think,

01:26:07.960 maybe.

01:26:08.720 I would name it.

01:26:09.560 I have one horse,

01:26:10.260 actually,

01:26:10.560 Brendan,

01:26:10.920 that we keep back here sometimes,

01:26:12.160 but that's a different show.

01:26:14.180 He eats Kratom and nicotine.

01:26:15.540 Yeah,

01:26:16.020 he does.

01:26:16.900 He's definitely,

01:26:18.460 he's on a unique diet.

01:26:19.580 A unique diet.

01:26:20.200 What are the fitness things

01:26:21.620 that you do fitness-wise

01:26:23.000 to stay in shape,

01:26:23.980 man?

01:26:24.200 I train boxing.

01:26:25.140 You do?

01:26:25.520 Yeah.

01:26:26.040 Wow.

01:26:26.660 Yeah,

01:26:26.940 I train boxing

01:26:27.580 just because that's what I love.

01:26:30.020 Right.

01:26:30.300 And then that's the only thing

01:26:33.160 that I can,

01:26:33.660 I'm actually excited to go and do.

01:26:35.960 You know,

01:26:36.140 I try to do the normal training,

01:26:39.120 you know,

01:26:39.380 the cardio and weights

01:26:40.920 and these things,

01:26:41.560 but it's just like,

01:26:42.720 it's not exciting for you.

01:26:43.620 It's not exciting for me,

01:26:44.500 you know,

01:26:44.700 but I go boxing,

01:26:45.900 it gets me the cardio,

01:26:46.900 it gives me the strength

01:26:47.620 or something.

01:26:48.680 And are there other exercises

01:26:49.900 that they ask you

01:26:50.820 that help you be a jockey

01:26:52.400 or is it just about

01:26:53.480 kind of keeping your weight down?

01:26:54.540 Keeping your weight down.

01:26:55.560 You have,

01:26:55.880 well,

01:26:56.060 we gallop,

01:26:56.780 we ride,

01:26:57.320 like I said,

01:26:57.740 we train a lot of horses

01:26:58.680 during the week,

01:26:59.520 so that kind of,

01:27:00.760 we get our fitness

01:27:01.380 somehow from there too,

01:27:02.540 like we can do some type,

01:27:04.980 a lot of squats,

01:27:06.120 you know,

01:27:06.320 a lot of leg work,

01:27:07.140 you know,

01:27:07.520 our legs need to be strong,

01:27:09.660 our core,

01:27:10.220 our arms.

01:27:11.020 Because the position you're in,

01:27:12.000 can you bring that up,

01:27:12.680 Nick,

01:27:12.820 do you mind?

01:27:13.520 Just hit when he's on a horse?

01:27:14.920 Yeah.

01:27:16.660 Because you're real,

01:27:17.440 I mean,

01:27:17.540 you're in there.

01:27:18.060 The goal is to stay

01:27:18.900 as small as possible.

01:27:19.860 As small, yeah.

01:27:20.760 Aerodynamic too, yeah.

01:27:22.340 And is there a certain,

01:27:23.580 like a nucleus point

01:27:25.060 on the horse

01:27:26.340 you want to stay

01:27:27.220 on top of kind of?

01:27:28.440 In the center, yeah.

01:27:29.760 Okay.

01:27:33.200 Wow, man.

01:27:35.400 And some,

01:27:36.320 do,

01:27:36.580 can now,

01:27:37.400 can a little person,

01:27:38.880 like a,

01:27:39.180 or they used to call midget,

01:27:40.160 but a little person,

01:27:40.760 can they be a jockey or no?

01:27:42.580 They could.

01:27:43.840 I think that,

01:27:44.740 I think that would be difficult

01:27:45.880 because the arm length,

01:27:47.460 you know,

01:27:47.800 it probably.

01:27:48.060 Okay,

01:27:48.460 so you have to,

01:27:49.020 so the arm length

01:27:49.780 is a little bit limited.

01:27:50.800 Yeah.

01:27:51.120 Or maybe they wouldn't be

01:27:52.020 as strong as,

01:27:52.720 you know,

01:27:52.920 the push would be like.

01:27:54.500 Yeah,

01:27:54.860 I'm just curious

01:27:55.480 as if why that,

01:27:56.620 why wouldn't more men

01:27:58.440 or women like that

01:27:59.320 be jockeys?

01:28:01.440 And what about a child?

01:28:02.620 Anybody ever try

01:28:03.200 to sneak a child in there?

01:28:04.220 Can a child do it?

01:28:04.980 No, no,

01:28:05.500 you had to be,

01:28:06.840 I think you had to be,

01:28:08.360 16,

01:28:09.740 I think it's probably

01:28:10.420 the youngest you can start,

01:28:11.940 probably 18,

01:28:12.920 but you have to be

01:28:13.720 assigned by your parents.

01:28:15.340 Oh.

01:28:16.620 And so,

01:28:17.440 does the horse get excited?

01:28:18.560 Yeah,

01:28:18.900 that guy,

01:28:19.620 he's going to have a

01:28:20.120 who's going to have it.

01:28:20.720 He could do it.

01:28:23.080 Hezbollah,

01:28:23.580 dude.

01:28:24.000 He could do it,

01:28:25.120 man.

01:28:25.180 Yeah,

01:28:25.420 no,

01:28:25.760 I would like to see him

01:28:27.680 do it,

01:28:28.120 huh?

01:28:28.500 I think that would be

01:28:29.280 dangerous.

01:28:30.180 We need to send him

01:28:31.040 down to the

01:28:31.580 Hippodro.

01:28:33.820 Mexico,

01:28:34.380 yeah.

01:28:34.600 Yeah,

01:28:34.920 we need to send him

01:28:35.720 down to Mexico City,

01:28:36.960 man,

01:28:37.120 and see what happens

01:28:37.820 to him.

01:28:38.620 Sorry,

01:28:39.000 sorry.

01:28:41.060 So the horse

01:28:41.840 gets excited

01:28:42.400 when it wins?

01:28:43.040 Does it know,

01:28:43.440 you feel like the horse

01:28:44.080 knows that it won?

01:28:44.800 Oh,

01:28:45.020 yeah,

01:28:45.180 I think so.

01:28:46.080 I'm not going to tell you

01:28:46.820 every horse is,

01:28:47.660 you know,

01:28:47.780 but yeah,

01:28:48.180 they know when they win.

01:28:49.420 They even get,

01:28:50.040 probably,

01:28:50.600 you know,

01:28:50.820 because they have a groom,

01:28:51.960 right?

01:28:52.160 The groom is the one

01:28:52.880 that they probably spend

01:28:54.460 the most amount of time

01:28:55.620 with the groom,

01:28:56.100 you know,

01:28:56.380 every single day

01:28:57.380 from super early

01:28:58.260 to super late

01:28:58.980 in the afternoon,

01:28:59.760 you know,

01:28:59.980 so,

01:29:00.780 I mean,

01:29:01.800 these grooms love

01:29:03.200 these horses,

01:29:04.360 right?

01:29:04.600 So if their horse

01:29:06.120 wins,

01:29:06.480 you know,

01:29:06.780 they probably get

01:29:07.440 the extra carrot,

01:29:08.460 the extra,

01:29:09.340 so they really know.

01:29:10.500 Everything.

01:29:11.060 Everything.

01:29:11.740 Bobbing for apples,

01:29:12.780 whatever they want.

01:29:13.700 Yeah.

01:29:14.840 Wow.

01:29:15.280 I'm trying to think

01:29:17.380 of some other questions

01:29:18.100 that we had.

01:29:18.560 Nick,

01:29:18.720 did anything pop

01:29:19.320 in your head

01:29:19.700 or anything good

01:29:20.260 come in?

01:29:20.580 Here's a question

01:29:21.080 from a beautiful

01:29:21.780 young lady,

01:29:22.480 obviously,

01:29:22.980 and this is

01:29:23.440 from the Dust Bowl era.

01:29:26.680 This question,

01:29:27.460 and that's just a joke,

01:29:28.300 lady.

01:29:28.540 These are beautiful kids,

01:29:29.480 and that one kid

01:29:30.120 looks a little bit like,

01:29:31.160 I'm going to say it,

01:29:31.860 like Hezbollah,

01:29:32.720 who just sent in,

01:29:33.980 who we just saw

01:29:34.640 the picture of.

01:29:36.900 What's up?

01:29:37.440 Hi, Leo and Mario.

01:29:38.920 We are from Saskatoon,

01:29:41.480 Saskatchewan in Canada,

01:29:42.620 and we have a question

01:29:45.280 from Mario.

01:29:46.800 Our racetrack in town

01:29:48.820 is closing down,

01:29:50.060 and they are opening

01:29:51.300 a new one outside of town.

01:29:54.100 The First Nation people

01:29:54.980 are going to open it up,

01:29:56.140 and I was just wondering

01:29:57.140 if you have any superstitions

01:29:58.760 riding on an old track

01:30:01.660 that's tried and true

01:30:02.840 versus riding on

01:30:04.060 a brand new track.

01:30:05.600 Gang, gang.

01:30:06.780 Gang, gang.

01:30:08.220 Oh, that's cute.

01:30:09.560 That's so cute.

01:30:11.520 Superstitions, yeah.

01:30:12.220 I think we all have

01:30:13.240 a little superstition,

01:30:14.280 you know?

01:30:14.660 Yeah?

01:30:14.980 I do think, yeah.

01:30:16.440 One of my,

01:30:17.160 let's say,

01:30:18.380 we have big days of racing,

01:30:19.760 big days when they're

01:30:20.920 expensive races,

01:30:21.940 you know?

01:30:22.360 And whatever I'm wearing,

01:30:24.520 if I don't have a good day,

01:30:27.280 you know,

01:30:27.740 I never wear that

01:30:28.920 for a big day of racing.

01:30:32.880 But I think we all have

01:30:34.100 a little superstition.

01:30:37.000 Is there more superstitions,

01:30:38.360 do you think,

01:30:38.680 between Latino riders

01:30:39.980 or any other type of riders,

01:30:43.260 do you notice one

01:30:43.980 or the other,

01:30:44.440 really,

01:30:44.680 or no?

01:30:45.520 No,

01:30:45.800 but I really think

01:30:46.680 everybody will have

01:30:48.340 a little bit of something,

01:30:49.520 you know?

01:30:49.840 Like,

01:30:50.260 even if it's settled,

01:30:51.920 you know,

01:30:52.220 like,

01:30:52.500 you don't do this type

01:30:54.220 of thing before

01:30:54.800 you're going to race,

01:30:55.540 you know?

01:30:55.760 There is some people,

01:30:56.560 there is a very common

01:30:57.560 thing to say

01:30:59.040 to owners

01:30:59.960 or trainers

01:31:01.040 to say,

01:31:02.380 hey,

01:31:02.540 I see you in the winner's circle.

01:31:03.720 And some people

01:31:04.340 hate,

01:31:05.580 hate to say that.

01:31:06.480 Oh,

01:31:06.520 okay,

01:31:06.740 so they won't say

01:31:07.440 certain things,

01:31:08.380 jinx themselves.

01:31:09.000 Jinx themselves

01:31:09.660 and things like that,

01:31:10.540 you know?

01:31:11.900 Do you,

01:31:13.920 is there,

01:31:14.500 will you wear socks

01:31:15.400 and stuff during a thing?

01:31:16.540 Like,

01:31:16.700 do you wear,

01:31:17.360 what do you wear

01:31:17.900 to keep yourself

01:31:18.460 as light as possible?

01:31:19.660 Well,

01:31:19.960 our equipment

01:31:20.720 is super light.

01:31:21.940 I didn't,

01:31:22.560 yeah,

01:31:22.740 I mean,

01:31:22.920 this weighs probably,

01:31:23.620 all this total

01:31:24.320 probably weighs three pounds.

01:31:25.440 So probably,

01:31:26.000 like,

01:31:26.140 our pants,

01:31:26.920 socks,

01:31:27.940 vest,

01:31:28.340 and undershirt,

01:31:30.480 alone,

01:31:30.760 is probably,

01:31:31.200 like,

01:31:31.280 only two pounds.

01:31:33.260 Less than two pounds.

01:31:34.900 And will you eat

01:31:35.660 that morning

01:31:36.120 or you usually

01:31:36.640 will kind of

01:31:37.120 just have something light

01:31:37.980 or something?

01:31:38.300 I have something light

01:31:39.020 because you don't,

01:31:39.780 like,

01:31:39.920 you don't want to go

01:31:40.460 right with your belly full,

01:31:41.780 you know?

01:31:42.020 Like,

01:31:42.140 I have a coffee

01:31:42.820 and I have,

01:31:43.580 like,

01:31:43.780 you know,

01:31:44.020 like a piece of bread

01:31:44.960 or things like that,

01:31:45.880 you know?

01:31:46.540 I'll go to that one.

01:31:47.900 This is an accident?

01:31:48.840 Yeah,

01:31:49.060 so I was going to ask,

01:31:50.160 Mario,

01:31:50.500 have you had bad accidents?

01:31:51.800 I just saw this

01:31:52.620 on your Instagram.

01:31:53.700 You were sending a message

01:31:54.540 to your fans

01:31:55.080 telling them you were okay

01:31:56.060 back in September 2020.

01:31:57.660 Yeah,

01:31:57.980 back in September,

01:31:58.840 I think that was

01:31:59.660 a very hard one.

01:32:00.460 I got a good concussion

01:32:01.540 out of that one,

01:32:03.200 you know?

01:32:03.680 So I landed on my head.

01:32:05.440 It just landed

01:32:06.080 and I didn't move.

01:32:07.220 I got scared

01:32:08.340 because I never landed

01:32:09.280 that way

01:32:09.820 and then,

01:32:11.560 what is it,

01:32:12.700 like,

01:32:13.780 I just felt

01:32:14.540 a pain

01:32:15.460 that I didn't feel before

01:32:16.380 and I was like,

01:32:17.120 oh my God,

01:32:17.660 I'm as good as gone.

01:32:19.160 That's exactly

01:32:19.800 what I thought

01:32:20.280 but then I was like,

01:32:21.020 You're going to be

01:32:21.120 in the wheelchair,

01:32:21.600 you're going to be

01:32:21.780 in the chariot races.

01:32:22.860 Yeah,

01:32:23.280 exactly.

01:32:24.960 Unfortunately,

01:32:25.480 we have a lot

01:32:26.000 of fellow jokies

01:32:26.700 that,

01:32:27.040 you know,

01:32:27.380 they get hurt

01:32:28.840 like that

01:32:29.840 and then they're up

01:32:30.420 in a wheelchair.

01:32:31.660 And so what happens,

01:32:33.120 what is the number one

01:32:34.080 accident that happens

01:32:35.060 with horses

01:32:36.000 and with racing?

01:32:37.400 Is it that the horse

01:32:38.520 stops and you fly off?

01:32:39.780 Is that you get

01:32:40.400 knocked off?

01:32:41.060 Is it the trampling?

01:32:41.940 Like,

01:32:42.060 what's the top deal

01:32:43.060 that really gets you

01:32:44.240 hampered out?

01:32:45.120 It's like,

01:32:45.840 for example,

01:32:46.620 you can get trapped

01:32:48.060 like my last fall,

01:32:50.360 I have a little clips,

01:32:51.440 you know,

01:32:51.660 there is like

01:32:52.080 inexperienced riders

01:32:53.100 or not inexperienced riders,

01:32:54.660 somebody,

01:32:55.080 sometimes a rider

01:32:55.980 can be a little bit

01:32:56.800 hurtless,

01:32:57.260 you know,

01:32:57.480 get too involved

01:32:58.480 in the race

01:32:59.080 and it starts shifting,

01:33:00.580 you know,

01:33:00.840 and then you get

01:33:01.480 sandwiched in between horses

01:33:03.400 and now your horse

01:33:04.740 clip heels,

01:33:06.480 you know,

01:33:06.720 trips with the other horse legs

01:33:08.380 and then,

01:33:09.260 I think that's the scariest part,

01:33:10.840 you know,

01:33:11.580 and then sometimes...

01:33:12.800 So that would be the scariest thing.

01:33:14.200 Yeah,

01:33:14.400 that would be the scariest thing,

01:33:15.700 you know,

01:33:16.460 because then there's like

01:33:17.360 there is nothing in your control,

01:33:18.760 you know,

01:33:19.020 there is like you choose waiting.

01:33:21.300 I remember back in

01:33:22.400 when that happened,

01:33:24.000 I was,

01:33:24.620 I can see the guy shifting,

01:33:26.520 but he was shifting a lot

01:33:27.820 and I'm like,

01:33:28.260 okay,

01:33:28.420 he's going to realize

01:33:29.300 he's doing this a lot

01:33:30.280 and then,

01:33:30.980 so I kept riding my horse,

01:33:32.240 right,

01:33:32.480 because I had a hole

01:33:33.560 to go through,

01:33:34.440 I kept riding,

01:33:35.160 kept riding,

01:33:36.160 he kept going

01:33:36.900 and by the time I'm like,

01:33:38.040 I realized,

01:33:38.680 okay,

01:33:38.900 he's not gonna,

01:33:40.140 he's not gonna stop,

01:33:41.200 right,

01:33:41.660 another horse was coming

01:33:42.800 way faster

01:33:43.520 and my odd side

01:33:44.800 and that's how

01:33:45.460 the sandwich happened

01:33:46.280 and by that time

01:33:47.140 it was too late

01:33:47.880 for me to do anything

01:33:48.880 and I was just trying

01:33:49.980 to hold as hard as I could

01:33:51.380 and my horse tripped

01:33:52.620 and I went flying.

01:33:55.560 And is it,

01:33:56.940 where can the horse see

01:33:58.660 when it's running?

01:33:59.660 What can it see?

01:34:00.340 Oh,

01:34:00.520 horses go,

01:34:01.100 like they can see

01:34:01.720 like to their side,

01:34:03.000 but the horse,

01:34:03.480 the eyes are like

01:34:04.500 a little bit on the side

01:34:05.240 so they're aware

01:34:06.480 of horses coming behind,

01:34:07.620 you know,

01:34:08.080 they can look backwards

01:34:10.280 at the home team.

01:34:11.240 And is it only man horses

01:34:12.540 that run

01:34:12.980 or female horses run?

01:34:13.900 Female horses.

01:34:14.400 Really?

01:34:14.900 Only female?

01:34:16.120 Only female horses.

01:34:17.380 You can ride,

01:34:18.080 like you can mix each other,

01:34:19.860 you know,

01:34:20.080 you can,

01:34:20.460 but they're not very common

01:34:21.600 but fillies run

01:34:22.740 with the fillies,

01:34:24.060 males run with the males

01:34:25.540 but we don't,

01:34:27.020 we don't,

01:34:28.040 we have equality

01:34:29.480 in the sport

01:34:30.020 so a female

01:34:30.760 can run with the guys.

01:34:32.600 So like in the Kentucky,

01:34:33.960 do you move this

01:34:34.460 a little closer

01:34:34.840 if you don't mind?

01:34:35.240 In the Kentucky Derby,

01:34:36.580 like is it man in that race?

01:34:38.100 Is it male horses

01:34:38.860 or female horses

01:34:39.480 or it's both?

01:34:40.380 I don't know,

01:34:40.680 you got to get out of here.

01:34:41.320 It's both.

01:34:42.320 It's both.

01:34:43.660 I think one female horse

01:34:46.080 won the Kentucky Derby.

01:34:47.120 Wow.

01:34:47.520 Yeah,

01:34:47.760 I don't remember

01:34:48.320 what's the name

01:34:48.860 of the horse

01:34:50.220 but yeah,

01:34:50.620 a female.

01:34:51.260 It's not very common,

01:34:52.480 you know,

01:34:52.900 but like yeah,

01:34:53.580 no,

01:34:53.800 they can run.

01:34:54.680 There's no restriction

01:34:55.440 whatsoever

01:34:56.160 for a female horse

01:34:58.520 not to enter.

01:34:59.760 You just have to qualify.

01:35:01.480 If you're good enough

01:35:02.280 to qualify,

01:35:03.080 you can run.

01:35:03.960 So more commonly,

01:35:05.920 a lot of the horses

01:35:06.820 that you ride

01:35:07.440 are male horses?

01:35:08.960 I know,

01:35:09.360 both.

01:35:09.780 It's both.

01:35:10.080 Both,

01:35:10.280 both,

01:35:10.300 both.

01:35:10.580 Yeah.

01:35:10.960 Do you notice a difference

01:35:11.960 in the horses?

01:35:12.520 Oh yeah,

01:35:13.020 yeah.

01:35:13.180 Really?

01:35:13.580 Oh yeah,

01:35:13.960 the girls are more feisty.

01:35:15.620 No way.

01:35:16.120 You have to treat them differently.

01:35:17.080 I knew it.

01:35:17.680 You have to treat them different.

01:35:19.560 I freaking knew it,

01:35:20.820 dude.

01:35:21.100 Oh,

01:35:21.420 they're so.

01:35:21.900 You got to take them

01:35:22.500 to the movies.

01:35:23.720 Oh,

01:35:23.860 you have to be so kind

01:35:25.660 and nice to them.

01:35:27.220 Open the door.

01:35:28.220 Yep.

01:35:28.800 Yeah,

01:35:29.160 they're more.

01:35:29.900 Yeah,

01:35:30.040 you have to be so.

01:35:30.780 They'll stand outside

01:35:31.420 of the stable

01:35:32.000 just waiting for you

01:35:32.760 to open the door to it.

01:35:34.040 Yeah,

01:35:34.260 yeah,

01:35:34.400 yeah.

01:35:35.020 Damn,

01:35:35.400 they're so,

01:35:35.940 so different.

01:35:36.860 So,

01:35:37.140 so different.

01:35:37.420 Really?

01:35:38.020 Yeah.

01:35:38.740 Wow.

01:35:39.400 I have a lot of luck

01:35:40.240 with fillies,

01:35:41.200 with female horses.

01:35:43.060 Really?

01:35:43.340 A lot of what fillies?

01:35:44.100 Luck.

01:35:44.400 You know,

01:35:44.940 they tend to run

01:35:45.900 really well for me.

01:35:46.800 Really?

01:35:47.780 Yeah.

01:35:48.120 Maybe they like you,

01:35:49.000 huh?

01:35:49.100 I guess.

01:35:49.720 I could see it.

01:35:51.080 I could see it,

01:35:51.900 man.

01:35:52.100 Yeah.

01:35:52.700 Handsome guy,

01:35:53.340 I could see it.

01:35:54.360 Winning colors,

01:35:55.120 genuine risk,

01:35:55.680 and regret.

01:35:57.040 Yeah.

01:35:57.380 The only fillies

01:35:58.060 to win the Kentucky Derby.

01:35:59.260 It doesn't look like

01:35:59.820 any female jockeys have won.

01:36:01.460 No,

01:36:01.920 no,

01:36:02.240 no,

01:36:02.440 they haven't won.

01:36:03.540 Wow.

01:36:03.940 I don't think

01:36:04.500 there's a female jockey.

01:36:06.140 Hmm.

01:36:07.720 Nick,

01:36:08.220 did you have something else

01:36:09.040 that kind of popped up?

01:36:10.360 Just with like,

01:36:11.460 the gambling,

01:36:12.880 like,

01:36:13.100 how,

01:36:15.540 there's always such

01:36:16.800 a heavy favorite.

01:36:17.620 Where are they getting

01:36:18.240 that information from?

01:36:19.240 What is that based off of?

01:36:20.320 Because the horses

01:36:20.920 don't have a ton

01:36:22.020 of history behind them

01:36:23.200 from what I understand.

01:36:24.600 They race for like

01:36:25.180 a year or two.

01:36:26.180 So like,

01:36:26.580 how do they know

01:36:27.220 who's the favorite?

01:36:28.760 And,

01:36:29.440 yeah,

01:36:29.640 I get...

01:36:30.200 No,

01:36:30.720 we have,

01:36:31.880 like,

01:36:32.020 they have the past performances.

01:36:33.720 You know,

01:36:33.900 you can see,

01:36:34.840 for example,

01:36:35.580 or they record

01:36:38.720 the workouts

01:36:39.460 as well.

01:36:40.780 You know,

01:36:41.080 so if a horse

01:36:41.940 is working

01:36:42.420 in good times,

01:36:43.620 you know,

01:36:44.020 so that tend to be

01:36:45.720 the...

01:36:45.960 Or how are they doing it?

01:36:47.020 You know,

01:36:47.240 there's cameras

01:36:48.220 filming them

01:36:48.820 in the mornings,

01:36:49.380 how they're working

01:36:50.140 and things like that,

01:36:50.980 you know?

01:36:51.440 And is all that

01:36:52.480 available to the public

01:36:53.620 if you want to research that?

01:36:54.780 Yeah,

01:36:54.820 yeah,

01:36:54.940 that's available.

01:36:55.620 You buy...

01:36:55.980 Max Preps, dude.

01:36:57.340 There is people on...

01:36:58.640 There is like

01:36:59.040 the hardcore

01:37:00.280 handicappers,

01:37:01.680 the hardcore

01:37:02.920 gamblers,

01:37:03.580 you know,

01:37:03.820 that they...

01:37:04.200 You go,

01:37:04.580 you buy this book

01:37:05.440 and you study this book

01:37:06.700 and you can see

01:37:07.700 the past performance,

01:37:09.080 what they have

01:37:10.160 all kinds of descriptions,

01:37:11.380 what the horse did,

01:37:13.560 if he got in any kind

01:37:14.860 of trouble,

01:37:15.740 if he broke leg

01:37:16.420 from the gate.

01:37:18.080 Oh,

01:37:18.240 they have all kinds

01:37:18.940 of things,

01:37:19.360 you know?

01:37:19.920 Dang.

01:37:21.120 Spit figures

01:37:22.040 and all this type of thing.

01:37:23.160 It goes too crazy.

01:37:24.680 And can a horse spit?

01:37:26.320 Do they spit?

01:37:27.240 I don't think so.

01:37:27.980 No,

01:37:28.240 I don't think...

01:37:28.680 Those are like

01:37:29.380 llamas,

01:37:30.040 I think.

01:37:30.620 Yeah.

01:37:31.260 Right?

01:37:31.680 Yeah.

01:37:32.280 Yeah,

01:37:32.600 you're right.

01:37:33.420 Could you see yourself

01:37:34.340 venturing out

01:37:34.900 and getting on the back

01:37:35.520 of a different animal,

01:37:36.280 you ever think about it?

01:37:38.280 How I choose,

01:37:38.880 like,

01:37:39.040 make a switch?

01:37:41.120 No.

01:37:41.440 Like,

01:37:41.660 as time goes on,

01:37:42.480 maybe when,

01:37:42.880 you know,

01:37:43.080 when the horse

01:37:43.860 and days are over,

01:37:44.780 maybe getting on...

01:37:46.320 What's the one?

01:37:47.080 Sometimes they put kids

01:37:48.040 on the thing,

01:37:48.620 the little...

01:37:49.660 Oh,

01:37:50.120 yeah,

01:37:50.360 no,

01:37:50.660 actually,

01:37:51.200 no,

01:37:51.700 I think...

01:37:52.280 The sheep or something,

01:37:53.040 you know?

01:37:54.000 Once I retire...

01:37:55.000 And the kids just like...

01:37:55.860 Once I retire,

01:37:57.960 I think I'm gonna

01:37:59.120 choose to stay,

01:38:00.580 like,

01:38:00.640 you know,

01:38:01.180 focus on my family

01:38:02.260 because,

01:38:03.120 like,

01:38:03.220 horse racing,

01:38:03.920 the only,

01:38:04.540 like,

01:38:04.740 different about that

01:38:05.700 is,

01:38:05.960 like,

01:38:06.140 we are all year round.

01:38:09.420 No breaks.

01:38:10.380 No breaks for us,

01:38:11.500 you know?

01:38:12.120 And no breaks,

01:38:12.880 it's not that you can't take...

01:38:14.160 I can say,

01:38:15.900 you know what,

01:38:16.200 I wanna take a month off,

01:38:17.600 but the thing is,

01:38:19.120 like,

01:38:19.400 I cannot afford to do that

01:38:20.540 because if you're doing good,

01:38:22.340 you need to keep that business.

01:38:23.840 You need to keep that business

01:38:25.100 because the moment you're gone,

01:38:26.520 there's somebody else

01:38:27.280 that is gonna be riding those horses.

01:38:28.760 It's like podcasting,

01:38:29.560 man,

01:38:29.780 in some ways.

01:38:30.080 I think it's like any business,

01:38:31.200 you know,

01:38:31.360 you wanna stick with it

01:38:32.300 while you can.

01:38:32.840 Yeah,

01:38:33.300 and if you're doing bad,

01:38:35.440 then you have to stay there every day

01:38:37.180 to somehow...

01:38:39.560 Right,

01:38:39.740 to get better.

01:38:40.220 To get better.

01:38:41.000 I know.

01:38:41.380 To get some...

01:38:41.980 And that's...

01:38:44.060 I'll probably put my kid in that.

01:38:45.420 Yeah,

01:38:45.700 it'd be fun,

01:38:46.240 huh?

01:38:46.900 Could you imagine how fun that is

01:38:48.580 if you're a kid

01:38:49.180 because you're probably

01:38:49.880 not gonna get that hurt

01:38:50.920 and you're just...

01:38:52.540 The crowd loves it

01:38:53.820 when those kids come out.

01:38:55.600 That'll probably be really fun.

01:38:58.020 I could do that.

01:38:59.800 I could see myself doing that.

01:39:01.420 It looks so warm, too.

01:39:03.940 So fluffy.

01:39:05.380 Yeah.

01:39:06.460 That looks like Brendan's kid

01:39:07.700 a little bit,

01:39:08.200 doesn't it?

01:39:08.680 Mm-hmm.

01:39:09.180 It really does.

01:39:11.280 Here's a question right here

01:39:12.280 from a young man.

01:39:12.920 I believe he's sent in a question before.

01:39:14.520 I feel like this fella

01:39:15.180 has seen him,

01:39:15.740 but it's nice to see him again.

01:39:17.460 What's up, Dio?

01:39:18.420 It's my birthday,

01:39:19.720 so I wanted to send

01:39:20.460 a little question

01:39:21.140 for your little equine piggyback

01:39:22.980 fella you got there.

01:39:25.520 When I went to a horse race,

01:39:27.200 I did a little betting,

01:39:28.240 so I was wondering

01:39:28.740 if maybe the jockeys

01:39:30.060 got in on that

01:39:31.340 and maybe talking to the friend,

01:39:33.500 hey, I'm gonna beat you,

01:39:34.660 I bet you 10 bucks.

01:39:36.580 Or maybe, you know,

01:39:38.040 maybe they just talk shit

01:39:39.060 all the time

01:39:39.600 when they're up there

01:39:40.260 on them horses.

01:39:42.080 So, dang.

01:39:44.560 Thank you, brother.

01:39:45.360 Happy birthday, man.

01:39:46.260 That's a good question.

01:39:47.020 Is there any...

01:39:48.020 Is there any Greg Williams

01:39:49.100 and going on,

01:39:49.540 there's any cross betting

01:39:50.500 amongst the group?

01:39:51.360 You guys do any...

01:39:53.140 We don't cross bet,

01:39:54.620 but we're like,

01:39:55.460 we're so competitive

01:39:56.500 with each other

01:39:57.180 because that's another thing.

01:39:58.440 Like, us jockeys,

01:39:59.760 we're freelancers.

01:40:00.600 We don't make money.

01:40:01.720 We don't really...

01:40:02.120 Like, if you really

01:40:02.720 want to make good money,

01:40:03.940 you have to be able to...

01:40:05.000 You have to be winning.

01:40:06.020 Really?

01:40:06.620 Yeah, that's the only time,

01:40:07.920 you know?

01:40:08.300 That's the only time

01:40:09.120 you really make money,

01:40:10.120 you know, winning,

01:40:10.760 you know?

01:40:11.260 Like, say,

01:40:11.680 if I ride five horses

01:40:13.960 in a week

01:40:14.520 and I finish last

01:40:15.520 and all of them,

01:40:16.240 I'll probably get...

01:40:18.020 Yeah, what do they get

01:40:19.100 in a race?

01:40:19.340 600 bucks.

01:40:20.240 Okay, so you get

01:40:21.320 a small amount for racing

01:40:22.440 and if you win...

01:40:24.240 Then you get

01:40:24.800 percentage of the purse.

01:40:26.160 Like, say,

01:40:26.680 Kentucky Derby,

01:40:27.420 so that horse won.

01:40:28.420 Yeah, I get 10%

01:40:29.440 of whatever that horse made.

01:40:30.840 Okay, what did that horse make?

01:40:32.100 Let's look it up.

01:40:32.680 Maybe like 1.6 million.

01:40:36.820 So you get 160,000

01:40:38.380 or whatever,

01:40:38.700 you get a 10%.

01:40:39.440 And now is that

01:40:40.280 on any race you win?

01:40:42.680 10% of the purse.

01:40:43.100 10% of the purse.

01:40:43.780 10% of the purse, yeah.

01:40:44.560 Wow, interesting.

01:40:45.860 Yeah.

01:40:47.320 That's really cool, man.

01:40:49.460 So, wow,

01:40:50.260 so it's really on you.

01:40:51.320 You got to get out there

01:40:52.100 and do it, huh?

01:40:52.740 Yeah, yeah.

01:40:54.380 So, yeah,

01:40:55.140 so to ask that question,

01:40:57.240 yeah, there is like,

01:40:58.360 like, because there's

01:40:59.080 a lot of competition

01:40:59.740 between us riders,

01:41:00.700 you know,

01:41:00.880 I can be like,

01:41:01.440 I bet you 10 bucks

01:41:02.020 I beat you in this race,

01:41:03.020 you know,

01:41:03.220 that type of thing.

01:41:04.020 Right.

01:41:04.320 Is there some riders

01:41:05.960 that are just like

01:41:06.660 all ego

01:41:07.340 and just maniac?

01:41:08.380 Oh, yeah.

01:41:09.020 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:09.540 There is a lot of fights

01:41:10.840 and there is all kinds of,

01:41:12.040 you know,

01:41:12.300 like if somebody

01:41:13.000 cuts you off in front,

01:41:14.120 like, you know,

01:41:14.620 we have fights,

01:41:15.640 we have all kinds.

01:41:16.420 It's hilarious.

01:41:17.200 It's hilarious, dude.

01:41:18.800 It's really hilarious.

01:41:19.880 What's a purse,

01:41:20.820 so the derby is 1.8 million,

01:41:22.560 so that's a huge payday,

01:41:23.520 but what's a,

01:41:24.040 like a,

01:41:24.340 you're doing these horses,

01:41:25.840 races weekly,

01:41:26.480 what are the purse on that?

01:41:27.220 Regular,

01:41:27.660 it varies,

01:41:28.200 it's like from like,

01:41:29.160 I think $25,000 purse.

01:41:31.780 Here is the lowest one

01:41:32.820 and then it goes up to,

01:41:34.480 in a normal,

01:41:34.900 in a regular day,

01:41:35.820 it goes to like,

01:41:36.940 you know,

01:41:37.340 $65,000.

01:41:38.520 $7,000.

01:41:40.380 And so if you have

01:41:41.100 four races today,

01:41:42.600 right,

01:41:43.100 say you have four races today

01:41:44.260 and if the average race

01:41:46.160 is a $40,000 race

01:41:47.620 for the day,

01:41:48.640 so if you won

01:41:49.840 all four of them,

01:41:50.780 then you could make

01:41:51.380 $40,000 then,

01:41:52.520 right?

01:41:52.800 Is that right?

01:41:53.360 No.

01:41:53.920 $4,000 times 16,

01:41:55.280 you could make around $16,000.

01:41:56.520 Something like that.

01:41:57.460 That's great.

01:41:58.140 Wow.

01:41:59.040 That's cool, man.

01:42:00.920 And does all their money

01:42:01.780 come from the betting?

01:42:03.420 Yeah, the racetrack.

01:42:04.360 I think the betting,

01:42:05.240 the racetrack puts up

01:42:06.520 that money,

01:42:08.080 you know,

01:42:08.520 the racetrack puts

01:42:09.500 the purse money,

01:42:10.520 you know,

01:42:10.900 and so no,

01:42:12.520 actually it doesn't come

01:42:13.300 from the,

01:42:13.560 but the racetrack keeps

01:42:14.920 all the money,

01:42:16.620 all the betting money.

01:42:17.800 Yeah,

01:42:18.360 the racetrack does

01:42:19.640 put the purse,

01:42:20.680 but the purse

01:42:22.120 don't necessarily come

01:42:23.040 from the bettings.

01:42:24.100 Yeah.

01:42:24.200 Otherwise,

01:42:24.660 we'll get a percent

01:42:25.340 of betting

01:42:25.740 and it will be

01:42:26.140 probably much better

01:42:26.900 for us.

01:42:27.420 Yeah.

01:42:28.260 You get that

01:42:28.660 pay-per-view money then.

01:42:29.880 Yeah, yeah.

01:42:30.800 So then where

01:42:31.560 you guys' money

01:42:32.180 comes from what,

01:42:32.880 the entry fees

01:42:33.700 you think or something?

01:42:34.860 Who knows?

01:42:35.660 I really don't know

01:42:36.780 that part of it,

01:42:37.960 but somehow

01:42:38.900 the racetrack

01:42:39.440 puts up that money.

01:42:40.380 I think it's

01:42:41.420 a share of the gambling.

01:42:43.440 It's not all

01:42:44.000 the gambling money

01:42:44.700 is the purse.

01:42:45.420 But they probably

01:42:45.940 take a part from there,

01:42:46.980 you know,

01:42:47.180 but like I said,

01:42:47.660 but we don't,

01:42:48.160 they don't share.

01:42:49.580 Right,

01:42:49.840 they're not sharing

01:42:50.280 all of it.

01:42:50.620 They never are,

01:42:52.120 dude.

01:42:52.580 They never are.

01:42:54.080 People paying for parking,

01:42:55.340 you ain't getting

01:42:55.780 a share of that.

01:42:56.600 There's a lot of things.

01:42:57.860 Limonada,

01:42:58.360 you ain't getting

01:42:58.800 a share of that.

01:43:00.120 Michelada.

01:43:00.600 Yeah,

01:43:00.920 there's a lot of things

01:43:01.960 you're not getting

01:43:02.500 a share of.

01:43:04.120 Wow, Mario,

01:43:04.800 I'm just trying to think

01:43:05.460 of any other thing

01:43:06.460 that really...

01:43:07.400 Anything, bro.

01:43:08.020 So now,

01:43:08.720 when would you switch

01:43:09.480 hands with the whip?

01:43:10.400 Does that matter?

01:43:11.360 Yeah, sometimes,

01:43:12.260 yeah.

01:43:13.040 It matters because

01:43:13.880 some horses

01:43:14.540 like it better,

01:43:15.460 you know,

01:43:15.720 or sometimes when,

01:43:16.560 you know,

01:43:16.900 the horse is still trying

01:43:17.880 but you need

01:43:18.400 that little extra push,

01:43:19.660 you know,

01:43:19.880 you all of a sudden

01:43:20.600 touching from the

01:43:21.400 other side,

01:43:22.340 they get a little

01:43:22.820 extra kick,

01:43:26.100 extra push,

01:43:26.740 you know,

01:43:26.960 so all those little

01:43:28.060 like type.

01:43:28.960 But now we go into

01:43:29.800 like super little details,

01:43:31.220 you know,

01:43:31.440 that little details matter,

01:43:32.840 you know.

01:43:33.440 Sometimes if you move

01:43:34.500 a little bit too early,

01:43:36.020 you're not going

01:43:37.060 to be able to get there

01:43:37.980 or you get there

01:43:38.680 too late

01:43:39.840 or you move too soon

01:43:41.800 and then somebody,

01:43:42.980 you don't get there

01:43:43.580 enough at the same time.

01:43:45.940 It's so interesting

01:43:47.000 because a car,

01:43:47.860 like a race car,

01:43:49.080 you're in,

01:43:49.660 you have an amount

01:43:51.520 of gas that you know,

01:43:52.820 everything is so finite.

01:43:54.360 Yes.

01:43:54.840 But with a horse,

01:43:55.700 it's like kind of,

01:43:57.460 you don't really know.

01:43:59.240 So there's this.

01:44:00.220 But that's our job.

01:44:01.220 That's why we have to know.

01:44:02.780 Unfortunately,

01:44:03.380 yeah,

01:44:03.560 we don't know.

01:44:03.960 If we don't have,

01:44:04.660 if that horse

01:44:05.500 that give us all mid race,

01:44:07.040 yeah,

01:44:07.220 that's nothing we can do.

01:44:08.480 Sometimes that happens.

01:44:09.380 Sometimes you just get

01:44:09.820 on a horse mid race.

01:44:10.660 Yeah.

01:44:11.320 Ah.

01:44:11.980 Yes.

01:44:12.720 Or you don't,

01:44:13.200 sometimes you don't work

01:44:14.200 with the horses in advance.

01:44:15.120 Yeah,

01:44:15.320 no,

01:44:15.460 sometimes you don't.

01:44:16.200 Sometimes you just get,

01:44:18.000 you just that day,

01:44:19.400 you just ride in the,

01:44:20.880 or you,

01:44:21.360 somebody put you

01:44:21.980 on a horse

01:44:22.360 that you never read in,

01:44:23.260 that you never have

01:44:24.060 even training,

01:44:24.820 you know?

01:44:25.200 So now it's our job

01:44:26.640 to like try to figure it out

01:44:27.880 in 10 minutes,

01:44:29.140 you know,

01:44:29.420 what that horse is like,

01:44:30.460 you know,

01:44:30.660 or even through the race,

01:44:31.540 you know,

01:44:31.780 try,

01:44:32.100 try to manage to see,

01:44:35.900 okay,

01:44:36.280 how is this horse?

01:44:37.380 Am I still having something?

01:44:38.560 Is this horse

01:44:39.920 still have something?

01:44:40.740 Is going to have something

01:44:41.400 for the end?

01:44:42.160 All of that,

01:44:42.800 you know,

01:44:43.000 we have to be able

01:44:43.720 to tell,

01:44:44.820 you know?

01:44:46.240 Did you,

01:44:47.180 when you chose your wife,

01:44:49.040 did,

01:44:49.380 was she,

01:44:50.040 did you choose

01:44:50.540 a smaller woman

01:44:51.320 because you want

01:44:51.760 to make another jockey?

01:44:52.920 No,

01:44:53.360 my wife is tall.

01:44:54.280 She is?

01:44:54.560 Actually,

01:44:54.960 all my old girls.

01:44:55.560 The ladies are tall.

01:44:56.100 Yeah,

01:44:56.400 all my girlfriends.

01:44:57.440 I don't think I ever have a,

01:44:58.660 had a,

01:45:00.120 a girlfriend,

01:45:02.280 like,

01:45:03.160 shorter,

01:45:04.340 or the same height as me.

01:45:06.260 Yeah,

01:45:06.460 I like the long ones.

01:45:06.760 I like girls.

01:45:07.940 I like big girls.

01:45:09.320 Taller girls.

01:45:10.220 Yeah,

01:45:10.500 yeah,

01:45:11.000 yeah,

01:45:11.500 yeah,

01:45:11.880 big difference.

01:45:12.660 Hey,

01:45:12.900 whatever,

01:45:13.380 big difference,

01:45:13.880 huge difference,

01:45:14.640 yeah.

01:45:16.000 English,

01:45:16.580 yeah.

01:45:17.220 Any other good questions

01:45:18.300 that came in,

01:45:18.880 Nick,

01:45:19.000 for the videos?

01:45:19.700 You said it's when

01:45:20.420 your body tells you

01:45:21.260 how you feel

01:45:22.000 and how long

01:45:22.540 do you plan on going?

01:45:24.800 I'm personally,

01:45:25.600 my goal is just to do this

01:45:26.980 another six years,

01:45:28.080 you know?

01:45:28.160 Top 40?

01:45:28.620 Yeah,

01:45:29.080 top 40,

01:45:29.780 and that's it.

01:45:30.560 Like I said,

01:45:30.920 you sacrifice a lot,

01:45:31.900 you know,

01:45:32.480 like you always travel

01:45:33.280 and like my wife,

01:45:35.620 like,

01:45:35.980 you know,

01:45:36.220 we have,

01:45:37.180 it's very hard

01:45:38.180 to make friends,

01:45:39.720 you know,

01:45:40.000 because like friends

01:45:40.760 usually do things

01:45:41.580 on the weekend,

01:45:42.440 on the weekend

01:45:43.100 when I'm writing,

01:45:44.620 right?

01:45:44.840 So even if my wife,

01:45:45.920 hey,

01:45:46.060 let's make plans,

01:45:46.920 like there's all that,

01:45:47.680 I'm like,

01:45:48.040 I'm never available

01:45:48.660 for those type of things.

01:45:49.920 Even for my,

01:45:50.760 for my kid,

01:45:52.500 you know,

01:45:52.780 like there,

01:45:53.120 I can't be,

01:45:54.600 choose a part of the community

01:45:55.520 of his school

01:45:56.180 or I'm not available

01:45:57.320 for those things,

01:45:58.060 you know?

01:45:58.280 So it's a lot,

01:45:59.000 this is the type of things

01:46:00.200 that like I know

01:46:01.000 I'm sacrificing right now,

01:46:02.480 that's why I'm gonna,

01:46:03.240 I wanna try to give my all.

01:46:04.940 By the time I reach 40,

01:46:05.940 I wanna be able

01:46:06.560 to have something

01:46:07.380 where I can lay back

01:46:08.640 and be able to live

01:46:09.400 with that

01:46:09.800 and just be with my family.

01:46:12.160 Yeah.

01:46:13.140 How often do you get to,

01:46:14.460 so you live here

01:46:15.260 in Los Angeles?

01:46:16.000 Yeah,

01:46:16.180 in Los Angeles.

01:46:16.580 Okay.

01:46:16.820 How often do you get

01:46:17.800 to be at home then?

01:46:20.160 Do you race mostly

01:46:21.140 with Santa Anita?

01:46:21.940 Yeah,

01:46:22.240 most of it Santa Anita

01:46:23.120 but then like I said,

01:46:23.980 we go to San Diego,

01:46:28.080 then back to Orange County,

01:46:29.300 there's another racetrack

01:46:30.120 in Orange County.

01:46:30.900 Yeah.

01:46:31.520 But this is local,

01:46:32.540 so locally we're moving a lot,

01:46:34.080 right?

01:46:34.640 But then before,

01:46:36.060 let's say before COVID,

01:46:37.040 you know,

01:46:37.600 like I ride for this guy

01:46:39.980 that owns a lot of horses

01:46:40.880 so usually he gets good horses.

01:46:43.300 When you get a good horse,

01:46:44.680 you don't necessarily compete

01:46:46.040 just here at Santa Anita.

01:46:47.420 If there is a big race

01:46:48.520 in Louisiana or Kentucky

01:46:50.420 or New York,

01:46:51.340 Miami,

01:46:51.820 you know,

01:46:52.080 you travel to these places,

01:46:54.480 you know,

01:46:54.760 so there's a lot of traveling

01:46:56.640 going on,

01:46:57.180 you know.

01:46:58.140 That's cool, man.

01:46:59.000 Is there one place

01:46:59.840 that's not the,

01:47:00.480 is that like the,

01:47:02.600 is it fun to race in Louisiana?

01:47:04.040 Is it fun to race in Miami?

01:47:05.160 Is it like the place

01:47:06.140 that's really kind of cool to race?

01:47:07.200 Miami seems like real beautiful.

01:47:08.680 Yeah,

01:47:08.960 Miami is cool.

01:47:10.580 Like I like going to Dubai.

01:47:12.800 Dubai is good.

01:47:13.840 Dubai?

01:47:14.300 Yeah.

01:47:15.000 Wow,

01:47:15.500 really?

01:47:16.140 Yeah,

01:47:16.440 Dubai is cool.

01:47:17.340 What is it about it?

01:47:19.260 It's like too extravagant,

01:47:21.240 you know,

01:47:21.600 like it's like rich.

01:47:23.880 People eating gold.

01:47:25.320 Basically,

01:47:26.140 yeah,

01:47:26.380 the racetrack is like,

01:47:27.500 people eating other people.

01:47:28.640 I think it costs like

01:47:29.480 two billion to be the racetrack.

01:47:31.180 There is a,

01:47:32.080 there is like,

01:47:33.100 the hotel,

01:47:34.060 you can watch the race.

01:47:34.880 Oh,

01:47:35.120 it's just beautiful.

01:47:36.600 It's fancy,

01:47:37.340 huh?

01:47:38.160 And a lot of money too.

01:47:39.660 That's crazy.

01:47:40.860 Sometimes it's crazy to me

01:47:41.780 how much money

01:47:42.420 some people have.

01:47:43.840 I know,

01:47:44.220 me too.

01:47:44.540 Isn't it crazy?

01:47:45.240 What are they going to do with it?

01:47:46.160 I mean,

01:47:46.400 you're not going to live eternally.

01:47:48.320 Yeah,

01:47:49.020 it seems so crazy.

01:47:50.140 And then you would see

01:47:51.060 other people be poor.

01:47:52.460 It just is crazy to me sometimes.

01:47:54.220 Yeah.

01:47:54.560 I don't think you really realize

01:47:57.620 when you,

01:47:58.580 like I remember

01:47:59.060 I was very poor,

01:48:00.220 you know,

01:48:00.480 like I mean,

01:48:01.200 we were struggling,

01:48:02.580 you know,

01:48:03.300 a lot.

01:48:04.860 But all the way up to

01:48:06.360 maybe

01:48:06.800 12,

01:48:08.660 13 years old,

01:48:09.620 like that never really

01:48:11.080 occurred to me.

01:48:11.740 I was happy.

01:48:12.640 I was laughing.

01:48:13.480 I know my mom loved me.

01:48:15.320 Yeah.

01:48:15.720 It's just my dad loved us,

01:48:17.240 you know,

01:48:17.520 like,

01:48:17.780 yeah,

01:48:18.040 we know that we didn't,

01:48:19.240 because you were aware

01:48:20.220 of things that you don't have,

01:48:21.540 you know,

01:48:21.720 we didn't have TV,

01:48:22.420 but that wasn't like

01:48:24.360 something to be asked

01:48:27.000 to be depressed about.

01:48:27.920 I think the older you get,

01:48:29.300 you know,

01:48:29.840 even now,

01:48:30.560 you know,

01:48:30.820 like sometimes I feel guilt.

01:48:32.380 Or I feel,

01:48:32.880 I try to think what my parent,

01:48:34.340 because now I'm a parent,

01:48:35.260 you know,

01:48:35.440 my kid,

01:48:35.940 and we're going to,

01:48:37.260 you know,

01:48:37.500 to the store,

01:48:38.180 or we're going to this,

01:48:38.940 and my kid,

01:48:39.300 I want that,

01:48:39.920 I want this,

01:48:40.540 and for me to be able

01:48:41.760 to provide for him

01:48:42.800 and kind of like

01:48:43.360 whatever he wants,

01:48:44.140 I buy him,

01:48:44.740 you know,

01:48:45.260 and then to think,

01:48:46.160 jeez,

01:48:46.480 you know,

01:48:46.800 why are like,

01:48:47.540 I remember me as a kid,

01:48:48.920 when I was a kid,

01:48:50.200 asking for things,

01:48:51.660 but I,

01:48:52.260 I never,

01:48:52.680 I never got any.

01:48:53.480 Yeah.

01:48:53.800 You know,

01:48:54.000 I never got any,

01:48:54.720 so I,

01:48:55.220 I,

01:48:55.680 now I go back and be like,

01:48:56.860 you know,

01:48:57.080 how hard,

01:48:57.620 what,

01:48:58.220 you know,

01:48:58.540 I will feel right now

01:48:59.500 if my kid is asking me

01:49:00.600 for something,

01:49:01.220 and I,

01:49:02.020 it just don't have it

01:49:02.940 on my back,

01:49:03.360 it will break your heart,

01:49:04.240 you know,

01:49:04.460 so I give it to my dad

01:49:05.960 for that,

01:49:06.340 you know,

01:49:06.740 I mean,

01:49:07.300 that,

01:49:07.520 that probably was probably

01:49:08.740 one of the hardest

01:49:09.380 part for a parent

01:49:10.260 to be able to give

01:49:12.060 something that

01:49:13.140 a kid is asking for,

01:49:14.780 you know.

01:49:15.040 Oh yeah,

01:49:15.580 I bet,

01:49:15.900 man.

01:49:16.560 Yeah,

01:49:16.980 I remember some of the gifts

01:49:18.140 we would get even growing up

01:49:22.260 something one time

01:49:22.900 that we already had at home,

01:49:24.180 she just wrapped it up.

01:49:25.020 Oh really?

01:49:26.000 Listen to me,

01:49:27.060 I don't,

01:49:27.700 we have,

01:49:28.240 this is ours.

01:49:29.320 I have a,

01:49:29.980 a little bit of a sad story,

01:49:31.840 funny story,

01:49:32.540 I,

01:49:32.760 I tell people sometimes now,

01:49:34.720 um,

01:49:35.860 I always used to write to Santa,

01:49:37.880 uh-huh.

01:49:38.140 Freaking Santa never,

01:49:39.020 never like,

01:49:39.840 never got me anything,

01:49:40.900 right?

01:49:41.260 So,

01:49:41.500 I probably was around like

01:49:43.140 eight years old,

01:49:44.240 and I,

01:49:44.960 um,

01:49:45.940 I was writing to Santa,

01:49:48.380 and I don't know

01:49:48.940 what I was asking for,

01:49:50.040 but I know,

01:49:51.020 I know he didn't,

01:49:52.040 uh,

01:49:53.140 give me what I asked for,

01:49:54.740 and then,

01:49:55.420 um,

01:49:56.540 but,

01:49:56.900 I remember writing,

01:49:58.320 putting the car,

01:49:59.700 um,

01:50:00.120 and then the next day

01:50:00.900 woke up,

01:50:01.440 and a present was there,

01:50:02.540 so I was like,

01:50:03.460 holy shit,

01:50:05.560 you know,

01:50:06.160 it worked,

01:50:06.940 like,

01:50:07.160 he didn't forget me this year,

01:50:08.740 you know,

01:50:09.020 so I'm all excited,

01:50:10.120 I go,

01:50:10.820 unwrap the present,

01:50:11.920 and I remember I had like,

01:50:12.840 this little soldier,

01:50:14.100 you know,

01:50:14.380 and I think I asked for a

01:50:15.700 remote control car,

01:50:16.800 or something like that,

01:50:17.880 and I was so mad,

01:50:20.080 I was so pissed off,

01:50:21.660 I was like,

01:50:22.140 you know,

01:50:22.440 this is,

01:50:23.840 how can you got it wrong,

01:50:25.420 and I was like,

01:50:26.300 unbelievable,

01:50:27.380 you never came,

01:50:28.340 and when you came,

01:50:29.140 you give me the wrong thing,

01:50:30.420 you didn't even,

01:50:31.220 you didn't even give me

01:50:32.460 what I asked for,

01:50:33.340 you know,

01:50:33.580 and I was like,

01:50:34.280 making this huge tantrum,

01:50:36.300 and I didn't tell anything

01:50:37.340 about it,

01:50:37.840 you know,

01:50:38.120 until now that I'm an adult,

01:50:39.580 I'd be like,

01:50:39.940 you know,

01:50:40.220 like,

01:50:40.440 my dad probably

01:50:41.180 buzzed his ass

01:50:42.060 to be able to provide

01:50:43.060 that day,

01:50:43.700 and for me to be able to,

01:50:45.540 that kind of brush my heart

01:50:46.440 a little bit

01:50:46.820 when I think about that.

01:50:48.520 Yeah,

01:50:48.760 it's hard to fit,

01:50:49.480 it's hard,

01:50:49.780 sometimes it's weird

01:50:50.540 to think how kid,

01:50:51.520 like,

01:50:52.120 what parents want for their,

01:50:53.440 and then how kids

01:50:54.180 sometimes are just

01:50:54.700 unappreciative,

01:50:55.540 but there's nothing

01:50:55.960 you can do,

01:50:56.480 you're just a kid,

01:50:57.200 you don't know any better.

01:50:57.780 Yeah,

01:50:57.940 you don't know,

01:50:58.480 yeah,

01:50:58.740 when you're a kid,

01:50:59.280 you don't know any better,

01:51:00.180 you know?

01:51:00.360 And sometimes it's like a clue,

01:51:01.620 my mom would give us a sort of,

01:51:02.900 be like,

01:51:03.100 hey,

01:51:03.260 you should join the military.

01:51:07.280 Okay,

01:51:07.660 I guess I see the only way out.

01:51:08.980 He's just prepping you,

01:51:09.380 prepping you already.

01:51:10.120 Yeah,

01:51:10.380 just prepping you,

01:51:11.240 yeah.

01:51:12.360 Yeah.

01:51:14.180 That's so cool.

01:51:17.860 I really appreciate it,

01:51:19.160 dude.

01:51:19.840 I really appreciate you coming in

01:51:21.060 and just talking to us.

01:51:21.760 It's so interesting

01:51:22.700 just to think about

01:51:24.200 what's going on now,

01:51:25.420 and now when I watch the race,

01:51:26.700 I'm going to have

01:51:27.100 such kind of a different inkling.

01:51:28.780 Is there any point,

01:51:29.700 my last question,

01:51:30.340 is there any point in the race

01:51:31.420 where you would stand up

01:51:32.540 on the horse or no?

01:51:33.640 The goal is just to stay down.

01:51:34.920 Oh, no, yeah,

01:51:35.140 like if you,

01:51:35.680 like if you kind of

01:51:36.520 sense something like

01:51:38.040 wrong with the horse,

01:51:38.900 you know,

01:51:39.160 like all of a sudden

01:51:39.780 you feel funny steps

01:51:40.960 on the horse,

01:51:41.440 like yeah,

01:51:42.000 you pull up that horse,

01:51:43.540 you know,

01:51:43.740 like you don't want to,

01:51:44.860 like you try to,

01:51:45.840 like I said,

01:51:46.360 this is our partners,

01:51:47.620 you know,

01:51:47.800 like I,

01:51:48.880 horses give me

01:51:49.480 everything I have,

01:51:50.260 you know,

01:51:50.520 horses took me

01:51:51.260 from property,

01:51:52.140 sent me to Canada,

01:51:53.980 give me,

01:51:54.180 That's a good point.

01:51:54.920 Give me,

01:51:55.420 give me my,

01:51:56.500 I got my wife,

01:51:58.160 got my child,

01:51:59.120 beautiful home now

01:52:00.060 that I own.

01:52:00.760 All through horses?

01:52:01.500 All through horses,

01:52:02.380 you know,

01:52:02.660 so I have an amazing

01:52:05.220 amount of love for them,

01:52:06.260 so every time that I feel,

01:52:08.240 you know,

01:52:08.540 something is just not right,

01:52:10.180 you know,

01:52:10.600 I'll stop the horse,

01:52:11.560 you know,

01:52:11.760 I'll stop the horse

01:52:12.560 because,

01:52:13.080 you know,

01:52:13.220 like I say,

01:52:13.800 that's,

01:52:14.560 I'm so grateful

01:52:15.660 and thankful

01:52:16.140 that like I'm able

01:52:17.200 to do what I do,

01:52:18.220 you know.

01:52:18.760 Yeah,

01:52:19.340 wow,

01:52:19.580 that's so interesting,

01:52:20.600 man.

01:52:20.760 One day you're gonna have,

01:52:21.700 you had to come.

01:52:22.520 If you're not to the race,

01:52:23.500 you'll have to come

01:52:24.200 to the farm

01:52:24.640 where my wife has that.

01:52:26.280 Yeah,

01:52:26.560 can I go one time?

01:52:27.280 Yeah,

01:52:27.460 of course.

01:52:27.840 Dude,

01:52:28.000 I would love that,

01:52:29.140 man.

01:52:29.560 You'll have a lot of fun.

01:52:30.660 I would love to go get on a horse,

01:52:31.840 that'd be freaking crazy.

01:52:32.600 You should come to,

01:52:34.260 I don't know if San Diego's gonna,

01:52:35.500 I think San Diego's gonna have.

01:52:37.360 Open?

01:52:37.880 Open,

01:52:38.300 full crowd,

01:52:38.800 you should come to opening day.

01:52:39.640 The Del Mar?

01:52:40.380 Del Mar.

01:52:40.780 When is it?

01:52:41.460 Do you know?

01:52:41.800 It's July 16th.

01:52:43.680 Opening day,

01:52:44.280 you should come to opening day

01:52:45.220 on Del Mar.

01:52:45.700 Well,

01:52:45.820 I can maybe make that.

01:52:47.060 It's a lot of,

01:52:47.660 you'll like it,

01:52:48.460 a lot of.

01:52:48.740 Del Mar is cool too.

01:52:49.960 A lot of pretty ladies.

01:52:50.940 Is there?

01:52:51.320 Oh,

01:52:51.600 a lot.

01:52:51.860 Oh,

01:52:52.020 I'll take it.

01:52:53.080 Del Mar is beautiful.

01:52:54.180 Yeah.

01:52:54.540 Del Mar is a beautiful area.

01:52:55.480 Most of the girls

01:52:56.100 have drunk

01:52:56.600 before the first race.

01:53:00.360 That's a neutral note.

01:53:01.900 Yeah.

01:53:02.280 As long as the horses are sober.

01:53:05.080 Yeah,

01:53:05.400 they're gonna be sober.

01:53:06.660 I think that's what matters.

01:53:07.660 Yeah,

01:53:07.800 you should definitely,

01:53:09.060 definitely should.

01:53:09.560 Dude,

01:53:09.780 yeah,

01:53:09.980 we'll swap information,

01:53:10.840 man.

01:53:10.920 I'd love to come to one.

01:53:11.720 That'd be cool.

01:53:12.820 And thank you a lot.

01:53:13.820 Thank you for having me.

01:53:14.540 I was like,

01:53:15.080 I couldn't believe it.

01:53:15.920 I was so,

01:53:16.500 I was,

01:53:16.760 when you guys reached out,

01:53:17.780 I was like,

01:53:18.240 I can't,

01:53:18.740 I was like,

01:53:19.260 like I said,

01:53:19.700 like a little groupie.

01:53:20.680 Oh,

01:53:21.020 that's cool,

01:53:21.660 man.

01:53:22.620 Well,

01:53:23.020 yeah,

01:53:23.300 and thank Walker Bueller,

01:53:24.080 man.

01:53:24.240 He's the one who was telling me,

01:53:25.220 he was,

01:53:25.440 we were just talking about jockeys the other day.

01:53:27.440 And I was like,

01:53:28.860 yeah,

01:53:28.980 we gotta have a jockey.

01:53:30.160 And thank you,

01:53:30.640 Nick,

01:53:30.960 because I know Nick reached out and connected with you.

01:53:33.240 So,

01:53:33.860 Mario Gutierrez,

01:53:34.540 man,

01:53:34.700 thank you so much for coming in,

01:53:35.800 man.

01:53:35.980 Thank you,

01:53:36.320 thank you.

01:53:36.440 Yeah,

01:53:36.700 good luck in the races.

01:53:37.600 Thank you.

01:53:38.140 Now I'm just floating on the breeze,

01:53:40.780 and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.

01:53:43.760 I must be cornerstone.

01:53:48.840 Oh,

01:53:49.800 but when I reach that ground,

01:53:51.700 I'll share this peace of mind I found.

01:53:54.380 I can feel it in my bones.

01:53:58.740 But it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking brake and let myself unwind.

01:54:11.160 Shine that light on me.

01:54:16.560 I'll sit and tell you my stories.

01:54:19.880 Shine on me.

01:54:24.820 And I will find a song I will sing it just for you.

01:54:32.740 And now I've been moving way too fast

01:54:40.040 On the runaway train with a heavy load of my past

01:54:44.900 And these rails that I've been riding on

01:54:50.500 They weren't so thin that they're damn near gone

01:54:53.240 I guess now they just weren't built to be

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - June 23, 2021

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