E418 Ari Shaffir
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1 hour and 35 minutes
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208.68423
Summary
In this episode, I sit down with Ari Shafir, a content creator and singer-songwriter. He has a new song called "Shine That Light On Me" which is out on YouTube now. We talk about the process of writing and producing that song and how it came to be. He also talks about his struggles with burnout and how he dealt with it.
Transcript
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I want to announce some new Return of the Rat tour dates. January 26th, Louisville, Kentucky.
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January 28th, Indianapolis. February 2th, Shreveport, Louisiana. February 3rd and 4th,
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Baton Rouge, Louisiana. March 24th, Corpus Christi, Texas. March 25th, and I believe 26th,
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Houston, Texas. We just added a new show there in Houston. April 26th and 27th, Phoenix,
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Arizona. May 13th, New York City. We just added a show there. June 1st and 2nd, Austin, Texas,
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and we will be adding new shows as current shows sell out. So if it sells out, just check back.
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You can use the code RATKING if it's before Friday, November 18th. If it's on Friday,
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November 18th or after, then you can just buy the tickets as you go. Go through theovon.com
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slash T-O-U-R to make sure you get accurately priced. And thank you so much for all of your
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support. I'm so grateful to have this opportunity to get out there and see you. I love you guys,
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gang. Today's guest has been, he's been on quite a ride as a human, as a content creator. He's one
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of a kind. There's no doubt about that. He has a new special Jew out on YouTube and he's going to
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tell us a little bit about the journey of creating that. And I'm just grateful to get to spend some
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time with him while he's out here in Los Angeles. He has tour dates and everything. You can check it
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Shine that light on me. I'll sit and tell you my stories. Shine on me. And I will find a song I've been singing.
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I'll see you since. You came to Nashville, remember? Yeah, dude. That was cool, man. Thank you.
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That's ruined a lot of me, but not all of it. Yeah, I've been good, man. Just still slowly just
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getting over. I mean, my burnout was so bad. It's tough to say that to people because people don't
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know it, but like I couldn't even sit through a conversation. Well, there's a conversation I did
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with this guy, Bryce Mitchell, where I could barely even talk. I was just my, I mean, just got burnt
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out, you know? So it's just been a slow, like, you know, every couple of weeks I feel a little bit
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better. I got on like some peptides and I got like a lot of different vitamins and did that ayahuasca
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thing to try to get better. I mean, I was trying everything to kind of, you know, see what was going
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on. Yeah, I was telling Bobby he needs to take time off. I was telling him yesterday and he was like,
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yeah, I'm like, I gotta do this and this. I'm like, dude, you're saying the same thing everyone's saying
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and I was saying that like you and I were talking about it. Yeah, you and I appreciate you hitting me
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up. You hit me up and say, hey, man, you remind me to take some time off to go do some things for
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myself. But I said how like the comments were all like, yeah, Theo, go. We'll still be here. Like, go get
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right. Yeah. Comments weren't like, no, you better not take off. The comments were like
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shockingly the other way. Like, yeah. Why do you think we forget that feeling then that we can't,
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uh, that we have to keep going? What do you think some of that comes from? Some of us to drive within
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like to where it's like we had starvation mentality for so long, you know, that we're still like, I
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gotta work. I got a job. I got an offer for a gig. And you're like, yeah, those are, we have to be
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comfortable, you know, like, like, you know, you raise poor. If you're like, Hey, the fucking free
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breakfast stops at 10, we gotta get down there. And then at some point you're like, I'll just go
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buy breakfasts, you know? And you're like, Oh, right. Yeah. I guess I don't need the continental.
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Like, like you gotta just convince yourself that you're, you're fine. That's a good point. I think
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some of that, probably some of that realization to some of that slowly coming into my own head,
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like everything's going to be okay. Yeah. Um, I, yeah, I remember we get the continental
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dude. My mom, sometimes we would go meet my grandparents and we'd stay at like this Howard
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Johnson. Hojo's bro. Oh, they had it. They were nice. They were nice. They had a nice eating
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place in there. Yeah. You could eat there. Yeah. The waffle maker. God. Cause then you weren't
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just eating good. You were, you were like contributing. Yeah. Yeah. You were there. You're
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like, go make it. Like I can make waffles. Oh, at the concierge breakfast? I'm like a French
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chef now. Yeah. Yeah. Then you'd forget about it. You have to turn it over. Bro. I wonder
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how many lawsuits there have been of people who like, just like thick bitches that tore
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the rotator. It was pre lawsuits too. They were like, this guy fucking burn himself. Like,
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yeah, you know how people are. Uh, hot, hot irons will do that. Oh, you let your seven year
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old. Yeah. I probably shouldn't have done that before that one bitch at McDonald's who
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fucking spilled coffee. And then she sued and won. At that point, everybody had to
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be like, Hey, no more freedoms for you guys. They ruined it all, man. I used to love the
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freedoms because yeah, then anything could happen. You mean, you'd meet a guy who like,
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uh, you'd meet a kid and his eye was like sewn shut from a waffle from like a hot waffle
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iron. Tell me your story. I try to restart. Remember no face at the comedy store. Oh, we had a comic
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name. No face because he had like fucking Mac the knife face. Oh, because he tried to fix
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it. Fucking one of those like things in the back of a boat. It was a, those motors. He
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got way in. It's like, I know I can fix this. He's fucking on it. And then it was like,
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woo. No face them. He was not a great comic. His cheeks got remixed, huh? He just got
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fucking. He was, he had all the sympathy, but he was kind of a dick too. And so he like
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heckle, but he, you knew he was him heckling. Cause you know, it's like dark in the comedy
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store. You're like, who's heckling? Cause every heckle be like, you suck. It's like air
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was escaping from his lack of face. Tell a better joke. Oh, damn. He didn't, he had
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a valve issue. I saw sometimes the weirdest fans come out. There was a guy who came to
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the show and he's like, man, you got to meet my cousin. He's the biggest fan of yours.
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He lost 70% of his skull. Wow. And you want to be like, tell him about the 30%.
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Well, he would take his hat off and then he would go and his head would literally go like
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that, dude. I'd be like cartoon surprise. He would go. And you see. Oh, how'd he lose
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the skull? I don't. Oh, they went into it, man. It was, I thought it was going to be a
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little bit smoother of a deal. You know, it was something, um, I want to say like, uh,
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some, the, some of those like electronic double doors or whatever, you know, like at a, you
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know, uh, you know, like a chase bank bid him or something on the way in or whatever.
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He just didn't read a soul. It was like closed. I think it's just like, yeah. And I guess
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the argument in court was that his soul wasn't showing up on those monitors. So it
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wasn't their fault. Yeah. He should have gone to church more. It wouldn't have been
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an issue. You go like this in the elevator. Hey buddy, uh, your soul ain't showing up
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on here. You know, dude, I got back from, um, I don't know where I was France and I
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got that, uh, global entry. So you don't have to do a meeting. If you just like on
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your, on your way back, you can do it. So I'm sitting there waiting. Some lady was
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like, Oh, Hey, I'm a fan of yours. I'm like, Oh, what are you getting your global
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interest? She goes, no, my, they're not registering my daughter's face. She
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went full goth. And then machine is like, this ain't her.
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Damn. I guess it can't tell. So maybe goth is the way out of all of this.
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Maybe goth's the way out. Maybe Marilyn Manson fans. Cause you don't see a lot of
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like Asian Marilyn Manson fans or things like that, you know, or like, uh, um, who
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was that lady who sang happiness? Uh, it was a warm gun. No, no.
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Oh, the dog days. Oh, Florence and the machine. Yeah. You know, she sang a song.
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They'll never play again. It's like, uh, about getting beat up. Really? Uh, hit me.
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What is it? Kiss with a fist. Oh, and they don't play it much anymore. It was such a good
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fucking banger. It's like, it feels something over nothing. Yeah. And then she's not, she's
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like, yeah. Well, it's interesting. Cause some people use violence as their form of
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affection. Uh-huh. That's pretty wild. Um, Jew, man, let's talk about, so let's talk
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about your, you have, you have a new special out. New special. So the journey of this special
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is interesting. Cause I remember, yeah. Cause I remember when you were, do you did this
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like you had started this kind of years ago, right? Yeah. Five and a half years ago.
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Wow. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was, uh, canceled a couple of times, but you know, you stopped
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me on first down and second down. I still got third. I picked it up, you know, third
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and 14. I picked it up. Jumar chase over here, dude. Um, well, congratulations, man.
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Thanks. Yeah. I watched about the first 20 minutes. So that's as far as I've gotten
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nice. That's more than I can watch most comics. Even to put it on is like, is a, is
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like a, is a nice compliment to be like, Hey, I loaded up your thing. Even if it's like
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I loaded up, my mom called it. I forgot to, you know, but like just to load it
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up is like, cool. You know, every comic is like, we know them all. So it's like, we
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can't watch them all. Yeah. I, um, yeah. And I love the candles. I love the setup kind
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of, it felt a little scary kind of a little bit. It felt a little like, uh, we'd gone
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down into a hole in the desert and you were kind of telling me some stories kind of a
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little bit. Yeah. It's got that campfire vibe where it's just like religious-y kind
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of feel. Yeah. Indiana had a little bit of an Indiana temple of doom kind of vibe a
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little bit for me. Yeah. And we will waste your soul away. They're going to
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steal your fucking heart if you watch it too much. If, uh, if you watch it three
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times. Yeah. And then it's like, what does it really say when he was like in his
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heart? What is this? What did he say? He has some words. In Indiana Jones? Yeah. Pull
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it up. Shalimar. Something like that. Oh yeah. Huh? Shalimar. Fuck. I knew it. It's close.
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I'm close. Um, so that must've felt great, huh? Yeah. Yeah. I felt great. And it was
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interesting because if you'd have done it in the beginning, it would have been for
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Netflix. No. Oh, it wouldn't have been. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I thought that it was
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going to be for Netflix and then I ended up on YouTube and that would have seemed
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like almost a better choice. Uh, yeah, it was always going to be YouTube. It was kind
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of like before people were putting them on YouTube, I already had the thought of like,
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no, this is the way it's like, you can get it to everybody. You'll be like early on a
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platform. Um, you still own it. You still own it. Sure. They can't stick some fucking
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lady's name on the end of it. As a producer that I'd never met once in my life or ever
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talked to like, who the fuck is this lady? You guys just stuck on the end of my shit.
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Yeah. I think credits are important. You can't just stick some fucking lady's name on there.
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Uh, they'll, yeah, they'll just sticky text and bro. Yeah. I'm like, what? Um, so yeah.
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And, and it honestly was better. I got to like go back to these jokes like with like a year and a
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half off and go, Oh, some of this is too long. These setups are too long. Like some of these
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like, Oh, this is the same joke twice. I can't see if, you know, forest for the trees kind of
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shit. And then I was able to like edit a lot better. It's a lot better because of all that.
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How much is it to shoot something like that? This one cost me quite a bit. Um, they're expensive,
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aren't they? Yeah. You can make them for, for, for very little and you'll still get the jokes
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across, you know, it'll still be good, but the way I wanted to make it, it costs, it costs,
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it costs a lot. A couple hundred G two 30. Wow. Yeah. The song costs 20. Oh yeah. Isn't
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that crazy? You're like, Oh, this song would be great. And I'm like, it's 20 grand. You're
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like, Oh, it was, it was, it was, uh, it was, um, Satchmo. What's his name? Um, Louie
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Armstrong. And he was, it was eight grand. I was like, okay, wow. That's not crazy. Fuck.
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That's a lot of money, but I'll pay for it. They go, well, also there's like a chorus
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he uses on it. So you got to pay the chorus guy also. I'm like, well, how much is he?
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He's like, he's 10. I'm like, what? And they go, yeah. And they have favored nation. So
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it's 10 and 10. Oh, what? They're both from Africa, aren't they? Yeah. That's the favored
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nation. Oh, I guess it is now, huh? Yeah. It is now. It's a favored nation. I got a promo
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shirt. Uh, let's get it out. Um, there we go. Ari Shaffir, dude, no more hiding. That's
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right. Out of the, out of the attic, into your, into your homes. I'm coming out of the
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attic. Dude, I'll say this about Anne Frank's place. I went there. Yeah. It's two bedroom,
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two bath. Massive. Overlooking a fucking, uh, uh, river. Oh, it's nice. Perfect location.
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Oh, geez. Yeah. There's coffee shops everywhere. Oh, what a wonderful spot. I will tell you
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this. I did it on my last special. There's a, there's like a brunch place. If you're ever
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in Amsterdam, right below Anne Frank's though. So Anne Frank's is around the corner. And
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then below, it's like two steps down. It closes like 3 PM. The best grilled cheese sandwich
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I've ever had in my life. I mean, it is like use four cheeses out of this fucking world.
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Um, is it really the best grilled cheese ever? Stop it. I don't know when else I'm
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going to be able to use that joke. Yeah. I don't know when else I'm going to be able
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to use it. Um, you made a joke last time that I missed that. I saw some comments and
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like, fuck, I felt so bad. I missed it. I forgot what it was. And it was like, what a fucking
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idiot. When a comic just like, uh-huh. Oh, sometimes you get stuck in podcasts, you're
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listening, you're trying to be involved in it. Um, dude, thank you so much. This is
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like, I just, I'm happy to be able to be in a conversation and have a good time. Um,
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so serious ones. Uh, no, just, I just haven't, you know, like it just like, it feels good
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to fucking just be having fun. You know, this feels good. The great taste of Celsius goes,
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feels good going down. It's delicious and low calorie. I assume. Uh, it might be actually
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only one serving per container. You don't get less servings than that.
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Yeah. What a stat. Thanks Celsius. All right. Dude, it's funny. Cause I'll, I'll pass up my
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morning coffee and I'll come, I'll just wait until I get here to have this. Does it have
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caffeine in it? It has a little bit. Oh, I need some. It's nice, man. Um, so now cause
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Jew, now Jewish stuff is like, it's been like hot recently, right? Yeah. Yeah. So was it,
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I'm tired now. Was that a part of the reason? Was it, were you just happened to be putting
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it out at that time? I was going to do Rogan's podcast. We're going to do a sober October wrap
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up. And I was like, I had it. And none of these bits are like, are like timely. They're
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all 5,000 year old source material. Yeah. You know, so it's like, there's no, there's no
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rush or not rush. Yeah. You know, I took my time editing it. Uh, I went to Paris for like
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a couple of weeks and people like, where's the edit notes? I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.
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Sorry. So it's like, all right, you're the boss or you're waiting on you. I'm like, fuck.
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Yeah. But then, um, I was going to do Rogan's. I was like, that's a good time. I'll just do
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it the day after I do Rogan's. So as soon as it comes out, I'll just have it. And then
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fucking it blew up. Yeah. Oh, gold digger fucking dug into the fucking backlogs. I've started
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promoting it. That's awesome. Yeah. Um, and it, does it feel kind of like revival? Cause
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you've had some moments of like, kind of like rock. I don't know if it's Rocky moments
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in your world. Some hurdles. Yeah. I would say you've had some hurdles. I mean, you like
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to be on the, you like to, you like to play track and field. Yeah. So I like to stir
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that pot. Yeah. You like to be out there, baby. People get, people get, I stir the pot
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so much. People around me get enveloped in my pot stirring. Sorry. I got soup on my feet
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from you, bro. Sorry about the soup. I'm sorry.
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Waiter. There's a lawyer in my soup. Yeah. If you have any on your pocket, there's a chance
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you're going to have to contact a lawyer at some point. Um, but so that had to be wild
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then. So did you feel like, Oh my God, this is like kismet or whatever that I'm, I'm, I'm,
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I'm putting this thing out and now all there's all this Jewish, like anti or Semite stuff
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and stuff happening. No, I thought it was going to be the end of it again. I thought
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it was going to go fourth down. Yeah. Cause I saw a world where they were, the reaction
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to that was going to be overly protective and they go anything that's even remotely
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antisemitic where they wouldn't get a joke. They don't know what irony is, you know, like
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anything remotely, we're just killing it so that we don't have to worry about being
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called antisemitic. I could see a world where that would happen.
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There's a chef. You can pull it up. I don't know if you can. This guy has like a pancake
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mix company, black guy. And the logo of his company is, is him with one of those big chef's
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hats. And he, you know, he like was promoting his stuff and Instagram or Facebook doesn't
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matter. Same, same. They, they're like, that's racist. Take it down. And he goes, what?
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Right. That's me. It's my company. They're like, nah, it's racist. He goes, what? Racist.
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I'm him and I'm a chef. They're like, nah, dude, come on. That's racist.
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Yeah. Uncle P's. It might not be Uncle P's. It's someone like that.
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Oh shit. That's Master P's. That's Master P's. It ain't that one.
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Yeah. And it's like, and it just looks too reminiscent. So they went overboard and they
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fucking didn't let this guy promote his own black owned business. And so I could see a
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world where that would happen. And I get it also from their point of view. They're like,
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I don't know. Damn, bro. Yeah. These all look so racist now. Everything does. Damn. Black
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people look racist. Well, I think it's like, yeah. If black people are in the kitchen, you
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can't be in that. You can't be cooking anymore. Blacks. Oh dude. If a black guy even brings
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my food out, I don't even know how to eat anymore. It's like, Hey, you're doing this because
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you want to, right? You're free of your own volition to come and go.
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I'm like, just set it down. I'll meet you halfway. I'll go get it. I'll go. Just tell
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me it's up or don't just kind of signal in some way. Oh man, dude. Yeah. So I was worried
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about that happening. Really? Cause that's funny. Cause I would think the other thing
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like people would be more, there would probably be more support for it. Sure. But I was like,
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I wasn't looking for that when I thought of putting it out. So I was like, don't let it
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go away. There is a world you could see where that could happen. Oh, totally. I mean,
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it's hard to have any type of, um, it's hard to have any type of irony these
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days, you know? Um, did you feel, do you, is your, especially, is it
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anti-Semitical? No, no, no, it's not the word, but, um, uh, no, it's not. It's
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very reverential and whatever, but also like, yeah, you make fun of yourself. Yeah.
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Yeah. You remember Stevie Z? He died. Uh, Davey Wester. No. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He
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died. Nope. Nope. Sorry, dude. Oh damn. He's still living. Still with us. But
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you know, he has cerebral palsy and when he fell, since he's our friend, we'd
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make fun of him. People would have cared more right there if you'd have said he
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died probably, which is a sadder process. Hey Davey, if you're out there and you
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want to help this podcast, kill yourself. No, no, no. Theo Vaughn said kill
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yourself. I didn't. The views of the guests on this podcast are represented by the
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podcast itself. Kill yourself. Do it. Kill yourself. God, I feel like I'm in the
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cheapest, uh, saw movie. It's like, did you have like a trap? Nah, we couldn't
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afford this. Well, it's like that girl that texted her boyfriend. He's like, oh,
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my car's broken down. She's like, I bet you won't kill yourself. He's like, damn,
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maybe I should kill myself. Like have some balls, dude. Think it out. Yeah. That's
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just he told him you don't have any balls. Yeah. I'll show you. Yeah. Do
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something else, dude. Damn. Dude, eat some fucking brother cakes. Don't fucking
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get out there and take your own life. Hey, have you ever been on squid
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billies? No. You should get on that show. People always ask me about squid
00:20:50.040
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00:20:53.120
thought was a squid. And then you, it's that on that belt. It looks like squid
00:20:56.980
legs. Oh yeah. You should do squid bellies, man. They would love you. I would love
00:21:01.820
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00:21:04.260
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00:21:06.840
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Did you, because did you feel like, was there a lot of, because anti-Semitic. Yeah, it's not
00:21:51.240
anti-Semitic, but it is making fun of our own. So I was going to say, when Davey
00:21:53.840
Wester were like, me and Renazisi saw Davey Wester trying to get a straw in his
00:21:56.980
mouth, but you know, those double doors, the saloon doors, the door. We were looking
00:22:00.420
and he was trying to get the straw and he kept like missing it and kept like trying
00:22:03.960
to get it. And man, we were dying. And then eventually he's like, sees we're laughing.
00:22:08.760
And he's like, fuck you guys. And it was so fucking fun because we love him. And we're
00:22:14.380
like, we know this is your disability and you're trying to overcome it. And that is
00:22:18.000
funny that you're failing. Oh, totally, man. I mean, it's, I think some of that is
00:22:22.120
interesting because I'll have a friend who will like go to therapy all the time. And
00:22:25.580
I know, and that, I mean, and even myself, and that's our disability. And there's times
00:22:29.820
where I'll laugh at it. Or if a friend makes a joke about it, I'll laugh, you know, it's
00:22:33.080
like, it's funny. You want to be dark. Like I thought about killing myself again. You're
00:22:36.220
like, I know you're serious. That is funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you want to
00:22:40.140
be dark. Yeah. Um, so yeah, no, it's not anti-Semitic, but there is like some making
00:22:44.740
fun of Jews. There's a difference. Is there, yeah. Cause I feel like sometimes you can't
00:22:49.860
even say Jew and then you, everything is anti-Semitic. It's, it's, it's literal people.
00:22:54.040
It's going like, like, um, you can make fun of the president. You can be like, uh, oh, the
00:22:59.000
president fell off his bike and you're like, why do you hate America? You know? Right. And
00:23:02.620
it's like, no, I'm just making fun of his fucking, his shirt's untucked. Yeah. Like
00:23:06.400
you can, you know? Oh, totally. There's this, uh, a Bobcat Goldthwait had this great story
00:23:12.040
about being on a, on a plane and there's a bunch of down syndrome kids on the plane and
00:23:16.120
they had to make a semi emergency landing. I think they couldn't figure out if the, if
00:23:19.140
the wheels could come out or not. And they didn't know. So they're like, Hey, we have
00:23:21.920
to burn off fuel. We don't know if it's going to be a crash landing or not. Our sensors
00:23:24.820
aren't working. Um, we're going to have fire trucks, like on the premises waiting
00:23:29.140
for us, you know, and all these downstairs, everyone's so worried. These downstairs
00:23:32.200
are like fire trucks, fire trucks. And now there's a person that goes, well, airplane
00:23:37.200
jokes are hacky. And you're like, Oh no, you don't understand this at all. You're
00:23:42.640
trying to weigh in. Yeah. Dude, this is about perception. Yeah. Yeah. Um, interesting
00:23:50.940
man. I think, uh, yeah, because that's one thing is sometimes it's like you can say
00:23:55.240
almost anything, but if you say the word Jew, then people, and it makes it, Oh, is
00:23:58.560
this right? Is that a no, no word? It makes it not even fun. It makes it like, I
00:24:02.180
can't even joke. I get scared to joke around with some of my Jewish friends or
00:24:06.100
I feel like I need to ask permission if I can joke sometimes. Like, I don't know.
00:24:10.460
Yeah. You know what? This is that weird world that we're in now. You listen to
00:24:12.940
these fucking dorks too much and you start feeling weird and you're like, and
00:24:16.240
you realize most of us are just comics. Like we're cool. You know, there's all
00:24:20.740
every week. Somebody walks out angry from the comedy store or from one of your
00:24:24.700
shows probably to, you know, you're doing a thousand people in a night. Two
00:24:28.180
people are going to leave angry. Yeah. You can't be worried about them.
00:24:30.980
Sometimes you see him leave. Somebody see him leave. Yeah. I got a complaint in, in, in, um,
00:24:34.900
Chicago, two separate couples, old couples left five minutes apart. Their kids told
00:24:40.140
them to go see me. And they both said the same thing to the management. It's not
00:24:43.300
enough that he's making fun of the death of children. It's that everyone else is
00:24:46.780
laughing about it. They're dragging him on. And it's like, yeah, get out of here.
00:24:51.760
You're not four year. You can't stop doing it. Cause of those two dorks. Their kids
00:24:55.080
are probably sitting at home and be like, we knew they'd fucking hate him. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:58.000
Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Fire truck, fire truck. Um, what do you think about this? All right.
00:25:04.240
We got some news that popped up here, man. Thanks. Speaking about what's that. We
00:25:08.080
talking about the fishing scandal people. Oh yeah. Did you see that? I'm going to jail.
00:25:12.280
Those people are going to jail over some fucking trout. Are they going to jail? I think so.
00:25:16.220
Yeah. Wasn't it so crazy? The guys just standing there. Can you bring up that
00:25:19.340
fishing? Lance Armstrong skated on it. These fishermen are going to jail. Those
00:25:25.140
teams are like, it's seriously swamp people. Don't fuck around. The French are
00:25:29.820
like, you learned your lesson, but the swamp people like, nah, dude, you gotta be
00:25:33.020
punished. Two men accused of cheating in an Ohio fishing tournament scandal have
00:25:37.140
been indicted. Indicted is high level arrest. Is it? Well, apparently these guys
00:25:41.520
actually like they, they like five different guys. They took away their like yearly
00:25:46.080
income because like this, the amount that they won for this is not a small
00:25:49.780
amount. Yeah. How much, what do you win? What if you're the top level fucking, let's
00:25:53.780
guess. What do you think? This tournament? Oh, oh, this tournament alone. I think top
00:25:59.360
prize, $28,000. Ooh, I might be too high. No, I think I was going to go 35,000. Let's
00:26:06.460
see. It's a 29,000. And I don't want to say the J word right there, but you know what I was
00:26:13.360
going to say? I drew them down one. I drew them down one. You gotta make a cut to the
00:26:17.640
organizer. I think you, yeah, you gotta cut to the organizer. Larry Fishburne. David Silver's
00:26:23.220
gotta get his cut. Yeah. Fishburne. Fishstein. Yeah. Troutburne. Troutstein.
00:26:33.000
This was a, wasn't this crazy though? They put weights in it, but they, they would do too much.
00:26:37.060
It's like those guys taking roids, like take a little bit of roids. Don't get the fucking
00:26:40.680
Barry Bonds bionic head. Yeah. You take too much. Just put a little bit of weight in
00:26:45.100
there. Put a fucking one gold coin in there. Don't put, in fact, don't, you don't want to
00:26:49.780
pick up this and be like, it feels fucking like 80 pounds. What the fuck? Yeah. Every
00:26:54.740
one of the fish, it was crazy because they'd have like a huge fish and then a little fish
00:26:59.720
and the little fish was weighing the same as the huge fish. Two guys had to pick up the
00:27:03.160
little fish. What the fuck? Crazy. Yeah. Like something's up. Like, I don't know what you're
00:27:08.840
talking about. Apparently like a bigger fish ate one of the little fish and just sunk to
00:27:12.780
the bottom of the, of the pond and they ripped these dudes. They ripped them apart. And the
00:27:18.460
one guy stood there like he didn't know. I would have jetted. Yeah. Go, go, get on your
00:27:23.460
fucking speed boat and go, go live, go live. You know how to, you, you've taught a man to
00:27:28.180
fish. You can do it, you know, not as well as the other guys, but you can earn yourself
00:27:33.240
a fucking meal. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I would have been out of there, man. And they just stood
00:27:38.560
there. Teach a man to cheat and fishing and hell fish. The guy just pulled, I mean, he
00:27:42.560
pulled a kettlebell out of once. I love that they were like, it's like a man got caught
00:27:45.340
cheating. He was like, wow, that's crazy. This fish must have been eating lead weights.
00:27:49.060
Yeah. Here they go. Yeah. Oh my God. Oh damn, these fish must have been hot.
00:27:53.740
Wow. Pieces of other fish. He should have just done that. Oh, it's very Dom or ask when
00:28:09.300
you get to that part. He just standing right there. He's like, watch it.
00:28:15.060
Refund all that fucking money. Wow. Refund all that fucking money. So what did he get
00:28:26.180
it? And then we got home with it and they came back for another time. But we'll go on
00:28:30.320
Zach. I think they win money throughout the season. So they're like, this isn't just now
00:28:35.360
you got to give back everything. It's like why Barry Bonds is not in the hall. They're
00:28:39.720
like, we don't know when this started. Oh, it's true. He was, you could see a guy being
00:28:43.560
caught. He's in the midst of freezing. It's flight or fright or freeze, you know? And
00:28:49.180
he's just like, he's just hoping it ends. He doesn't know what to do. Yes. He should
00:28:53.240
get the fuck out of there. Yeah. You got to just run. Yeah. No, they'll chase him
00:28:57.500
down. That now that's a good point. If he starts running, he'd have been probably a
00:29:01.040
dead man. Yeah. It's like if a dog's barking at, if you start running, that dog is going
00:29:04.000
to get you. Oh, it's true. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. There's something about that. Once you run, it
00:29:08.920
makes something else want to chase you. Stop. Don't let him run. Yeah. You have to be calm
00:29:12.820
and calm them around you. Yeah. Cheating and fishing. Refund that money. It's just, it's
00:29:18.940
part, it's sad. It's just kind of the world we're in. A lot of cheating out there, you
00:29:22.700
know? A lot of people were just cutting corners, I guess. But I don't know. Everybody else there
00:29:26.840
seemed pretty pissed and seemed like maybe, maybe it's just these guys. Sucks. You're
00:29:31.020
fucking playing a game. You were cheating the whole time. So I was like, what the fuck?
00:29:34.400
Come on. That's why I love a tour de France when they took it away from Lenny Armstrong.
00:29:39.820
Oh, yeah. And they were like, we got to give it to the guy who came in second place. And
00:29:42.660
they're like, nah, he was Royden too. And they're like, fuck, third? Like, Royden. You
00:29:46.740
know how far? 17. Uh-uh. They had to give it to the number 17 guy. And I'm like, he didn't
00:29:51.140
even finish the same day. He fucking finished on Tuesday. They all came in fucking, you know,
00:29:57.540
through the palace on Sunday. That guy rolled up, took a break, stopped for the night.
00:30:01.220
He goes, man, I've lost. I don't know. And then he's like, tortoise in the hair. You
00:30:04.160
know, as long as you finish, who knows? He's not even a cyclist. It's just a black guy
00:30:07.980
in a chef's hat. He's an Uber Eats guy. And he's like, oh, he just came to the fucking
00:30:13.760
play Royale. Did you see this? You saw Trump's backup. Trump's backup. What? Let's play it.
00:30:21.440
Hard on? No, if he got a heart, I mean, he's. Oh, Trump in order. Great and glorious again.
00:30:26.980
I am tonight announcing my candidacy for president of the United States.
00:30:31.560
I love the breaking news at the bottom. Trump expected to announce presidential
00:30:37.980
bid at any moment. Like, yeah, he just did it. Fucking Ticker. Get with it, Ticker.
00:30:41.960
You're fucking behind the times. Yeah, Ticker's almost like that autistic buddy you have.
00:30:46.960
Uh-huh. Hey, Ticker. And that was always a name they had for somebody that had autism
00:30:50.580
or whatever. Ticker, because he's a tick. Ticker, button. Hey, button. Where is this?
00:30:55.780
Tell him, button. Tell him, button. Mar-a-Lago. It's Mar-a-Lago.
00:30:59.280
What do you think about this? He's going to win, right? What do you think?
00:31:03.880
I don't know. I don't follow politics at all, so. I don't follow him much either.
00:31:06.900
It does. It is interesting because I like the tears of the righteous. And man, this guy
00:31:12.840
makes them flow. It's fun for me to watch their tears.
00:31:16.760
Well, even when you saw Dave Chappelle saying that, did you see that bit that he talked about
00:31:19.980
Trump? He goes, I'm not. I remember him before he goes, but he was running. He goes, I'm not
00:31:24.820
going to vote for him. I'll vote for Hillary, but I don't like it. Yeah.
00:31:28.800
You know? Yeah. Do you see that? Can you find that clip, Zach, where he said the other
00:31:32.740
day during his SNL thing about why people liked Trump, which is the original-
00:31:39.460
How old is Trump now? Damn, so he's eight years past where he was before. He was already
00:31:49.480
I think one of his top goals, I think he's getting probably exomes and stem cells into that.
00:31:54.180
It's probably smart to take the four years off because then you extend your time being
00:31:58.760
at the top. You're on four, off four, but that off four, you're still a former president.
00:32:04.720
Yeah, and then on four again, and then your next four, you were just a president. So
00:32:07.960
you really get 16 years out of that if you run it right.
00:32:10.540
And you get to bounce back and kind of like see whatever didn't work maybe the first time.
00:32:14.720
I don't know if in Trump's case he's able to do that.
00:32:16.760
You know what, Trump? You should change the constitution to eight consecutive years. So that way you
00:32:21.300
can do it eight full years this time. That's what Hitler did. That's what Hitler did. Rewrite
00:32:28.300
Yeah. You rewrite that constitution, anything goes. Did it in Ecuador too. Rewrite the constitution.
00:32:35.780
Yeah, I knew a real liberal comic and she couldn't understand. She was like, what the fuck
00:32:39.540
when Trump won? And I was like, well, you've never gotten out of your limo. You've never
00:32:44.020
gone to Dayton. These people are depressed and they're looking for answers. You've never talked
00:32:49.360
to them. You live in your fucking gated apartment building, you know, where no one's allowed in.
00:32:53.420
You have your fucking doorman wearing an SS outfit. Yeah. Like you have no idea what a human is like.
00:32:58.320
So you're like, what? Like, right, right. You've sheltered yourself.
00:33:01.600
Yeah. Look on, Zach, look on Twitter, please, where they look at Chappelle, SNL, Trump.
00:33:09.040
This is what I thought was interesting. He said, some people don't understand why people like Trump.
00:33:23.700
The media went so far overboard and tried to discredit him that they eventually got caught
00:33:29.940
Yeah. Remember that Russia thing? Never was anything.
00:33:32.020
Not only was it never anything, was invented by Hillary Clinton's side. So let's just say
00:33:36.380
she didn't know, but it was invented by a Democratic side and pushed so that they never go, oh,
00:33:40.960
fuck, maybe we got to look at these liars over here. They just go, move past it. So it was like,
00:33:44.540
if you're not going to apologize, it's like, if you tell me you're going to pick me up from
00:33:46.740
the airport and then you don't and you never apologize, I don't think you're going to pick
00:33:52.180
me up from the airport next time. I can't trust you're going to do it. If you said, dude,
00:33:55.760
I'm so sorry. My alarm didn't go off. It's like, I can tell you're sorry.
00:33:59.540
But these people never owned up to anything I did. And so it's like, I heard, I was randomly
00:34:03.800
in my car and I was listening to Trump on like NPR doing a state of the union address
00:34:07.800
or something. And he goes, uh, this MS 13, this fucking group from Mexico, there's like the
00:34:13.420
drug dealers and fucking smugglers. And he goes, they're terrible people. They're, they're,
00:34:16.840
they're, they're gang members. Um, and they're rapists and you know, they're terrible people.
00:34:21.700
And then the headline, I was like, Oh, I wonder how they're going to play. The headline the
00:34:24.500
next day is Trump calls Mexicans rapists. And I'm like, damn, it's not a lie, but it
00:34:28.880
sure ain't the truth. And eventually he did it so many times. We're like, we don't believe
00:34:33.900
Yeah. I think, well, that's one thing. I think people don't believe the news anymore. Some
00:34:36.640
people still do believe the news and I'm not saying believe the news in favor of any
00:34:40.660
person. Yeah. I haven't seen that Chappelle monologue, but they're like, Oh, it's
00:34:43.480
anti-Semitic. I'm like, I guarantee it's not. Yeah. I've seen enough of these. Every
00:34:46.740
time you see a comic went too far, I'm just like, without watching it. No, he didn't.
00:34:51.020
Yeah. Let's see what he says right here. If he says about this Trump thing, if this
00:34:54.540
is it, first of all, nice jacket, Dave Chappelle, you look like, you look like a
00:34:57.800
fucking, um, what's that guy's name? Talking about, talking about, I'm talking about
00:35:01.940
David Hasselhoff. No, he does look like David Hasselhoff. The black dude.
00:35:06.960
You might believe this is the end of his era. I'm just being honest with you. I live
00:35:10.440
in Ohio amongst the poor whites. A lot of you don't understand why Trump was so popular,
00:35:19.380
but I get it because I hear it every day. He's very loved. And the reason he's loved
00:35:25.680
is because people in Ohio have never seen somebody like him. He's what I call an honest
00:35:31.340
liar. Well, I'm not joking right now. He's an honest liar. That first debate, that first
00:35:38.860
debate, I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen a white male billionaire screaming
00:35:44.660
at the top of his lungs. This whole system is rigged, he said. And across the stage was
00:35:51.020
a white woman, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, sitting over there looking at him like,
00:35:54.340
no, it's not. I said, now, wait a minute, bro. It's what he said. And the moderator said,
00:36:00.560
well, Mr. Trump, if in fact the system is rigged, as you suggest, what would be your evidence?
00:36:08.360
Remember what he said, bro? He said, I know the system is rigged because I use it.
00:36:18.780
Yeah, that's crazy, man. Yeah. Also, in my special, Ari Shaffer Jew, you will not go that
00:36:24.640
long without a laugh. There is no period of that entire special where you will go a full
00:36:31.120
minute. Shaffer's definitely bought a lot of time where he's granted a lot of grace.
00:36:35.160
He's so cool sounding, but I'm like, damn, dude. Yeah, get to it. Punch that middle part
00:36:39.500
up. But I think that's one thing. That's the thing that I originally thought was fascinating
00:36:43.960
about Trump. I'm like, he's not a politician. He's not a politician. So he has the chance,
00:36:48.220
at least if it's possible. Just speak real. To get in there and do at least put shine of
00:36:54.700
some sort of a light on whatever we don't know. Yeah. Because he's not one of the two
00:36:59.320
sides. He's not part of the fucking garden. Yeah. It's too bad he's looking out for himself
00:37:03.120
and business interests too much. It's too bad you get a sort of an evil one in there
00:37:06.200
without doing that. Right. If it would have been somebody else, it could have been interesting.
00:37:09.500
Bernie maybe or somebody who's like, hey, come on, we got to help you. Let's get these guys
00:37:12.980
out of prison. Yeah. Just talking normal. Not like, and we're going to take it. And we're going to go to Washington.
00:37:17.560
We're going to change a little bit. It's like, fuck you. You ain't one of us.
00:37:21.080
Yeah. Yeah. I think he got then. I think his, I think at that point, something.
00:37:25.640
They just wanted to change. I think people like, fuck the system.
00:37:28.580
That's what they want. They wanted to fuck that. That's what I want.
00:37:30.480
How come all these billionaires got more billions during COVID when we're all suffering?
00:37:34.060
I know. Who's doing that? And rich people making rich laws for rich people.
00:37:38.720
Yeah. I can't afford a lawyer when I get arrested. They just have my retainer. So of course
00:37:43.080
they're going to get off easy. Well, it does start to feel in the world. Like we've got
00:37:46.940
to go to where they're doing it. We've got to climb some walls. We've got to take care
00:37:52.140
of business. Yeah. But it's not good. I feel like I used to feel like the government was
00:37:58.400
the best. I don't know if I, I feel like the government's bought out. Right. But that's
00:38:01.400
what I said. They're one step down. Yeah. The businesses put the government in charge to
00:38:06.100
like, keep us all going. That's what it seems like. Right. Yeah. It's like owner. And then
00:38:10.080
the government is like, the government's like managerial. Right. Supervisors. That's
00:38:13.940
what it feels like. Yeah. And they're like, they'll get theirs too. You know, they'll make
00:38:18.020
sure to get theirs, but they're not the real ones. Right. They're just kind of a liaison
00:38:21.980
now between big business and human, regular, regular folks. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it feels
00:38:28.640
like. Anyway, not to be a downer, but that's, that right there is what I thought was fascinating
00:38:32.940
about Trump from the beginning was like, fuck, maybe there's a chance. Yeah. When she goes,
00:38:37.120
you're cheating on a taxi. He goes, I know I'd be a fool not to. Yeah. What do you mean?
00:38:41.760
Yeah. I have great fucking tax attorneys. Yeah. Play the rest of that clip. There might
00:38:45.560
be, it might be on there. That was basically the end of that clip. Okay. Well, okay. See,
00:38:52.640
and that could be, we don't know if it is or not, but that could be an out of context.
00:38:56.780
No, just big digital telling us that's the end of the clip. That's enough. I got a call.
00:38:59.920
It's actually the end of the clip. Yeah. Oh, okay. Please use crest when you're brushing your
00:39:05.780
teeth. Everyone gets white smiles of crest. You could do no wrong. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry
00:39:11.160
about talking. Um, does that feel like what it's getting to sometimes? Do you feel like
00:39:15.740
overlords? You can't say certain things. Do you feel like we're getting there? Dude,
00:39:20.000
I had Milo Yiannopoulos on my podcast. You did? Yeah. A long time ago. Um, and he's like,
00:39:25.080
kind of like a gay flavor, Flav, right? In what way? Like he's like a hype man or something.
00:39:30.780
He's a hype man. He's a troll. Oh, he is. He says stuff just to piss people off. Oh,
00:39:35.480
and then it does piss people off and they go, you're a troll. Fuck it. And they hate
00:39:38.920
that he's gay. He's married to a black dude. Oh, he's married to a black dude. Yeah. Oh,
00:39:42.960
wow. He's so liberal, but he's conservative. And so he's like the, the tears of the liberals
00:39:48.920
get me hard. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I had him on my podcast just talk about how he's a troll
00:39:53.400
and not this like evil, whatever. And he keeps trying to go into them like, Hey, you're
00:39:56.820
not fooling me. You know that, that this thing, the white power sign. So he goes him on,
00:40:01.560
on 4chan, which I think is not a fucking, it's, it not this evil. It's, it's a troll
00:40:07.040
group. Right. I think what's the best way to troll people is go conservative that people
00:40:11.640
hate that. So it's like, then do that. You know, right. I always say online. Yeah.
00:40:14.880
Online. So we go, let's invent a fake, a fake sign. That means nothing. And they go, let's
00:40:20.280
do this. We'll call it white power. So then he's like, all right, how do we get it out there?
00:40:24.620
And they're all like, I don't know. Let's just go slowly. We'll see whatever. And then Milo's
00:40:28.580
just with the president randomly, you know, on a, on a platform and they're all taking
00:40:33.660
pictures. And he goes, Oh shit, they're taking pictures. And he just goes like that. And
00:40:37.600
people are like, what's that sign? And then they showed those fucking kids. The one that
00:40:40.940
was the Indian was yelling at, you know, and they see them, their basketball, look, they're
00:40:44.900
going like this. And like, no, that's a three point. Steph Curry is doing that. Yeah.
00:40:49.140
It's like, they don't even understand it. And he got them all upset. And now there's a
00:40:53.040
fight. It was even better. Yeah. Now there's a fight between the left and the right. You
00:40:56.620
can't take away this sign. We're fuck you. It's racist. And it means nothing. He
00:41:00.800
trolled them both. I had on my podcast, Ari Shaffir Skeptic. And I was just talking
00:41:05.400
about trolling and the origins of it and how he does it. And I got demonetized on
00:41:09.920
YouTube. No. Yeah. For having him on. I had to start a new account. You can no longer
00:41:14.400
make any money on YouTube for just hearing that we're wrong about him. It's wild. So
00:41:21.300
yeah, a few times you got to like consider it, but at the same time it's like, eh, I make
00:41:25.440
money on the road, you know? Yeah. You've always been brave. You've always
00:41:29.700
had that, you know, like you've always not really mattered where the spoon is coming from
00:41:34.580
as much, or that's what it seemed like from an outsider's perspective. Yeah. Yeah. It's
00:41:38.480
like, yeah. Patrice would talk about it. If you, if you owe them, they're going to call
00:41:42.040
on that favor, you know? It's like, eh, just like guys, we got to be true to ourselves.
00:41:47.400
And at some point it's like, well, we need you to do this. Like, I don't want to, that's
00:41:51.660
not funny. I don't want to do that. Oh yeah. You know? Well that great, that, that, that's
00:41:56.100
definitely, I think happened over the years, especially with like Hollywood, like, you
00:41:59.200
know, like comedy central sent me some offer the other day. It was like six episodes of
00:42:03.260
something and it was like $1,500 an episode or something, you know? And it was just, and
00:42:07.760
it was very nice, but it was like, I pitched three shows to you guys that you guys fucking
00:42:13.720
passed on. And then now you should just like, don't you have any fucking cooth even as a,
00:42:19.900
as a, you know, it's almost like you walk past me a million times in the dog kennel.
00:42:25.420
And then finally, when I have a collar, yeah, exactly. Like I'll come on over to you.
00:42:30.240
I've got an owner. You come by and ask me if I want to fucking come in.
00:42:33.900
I got some great advice from Eddie Griffin once. He told me, uh, I booked my first commercial.
00:42:39.520
It was like a big commercial. Back then that was like some level of success, you know? And
00:42:43.420
I remember this chick, it was at Dublin. She would never give me the time. She literally
00:42:46.860
wouldn't say hi back to me when I said hello. Then I'm on a commercial and she was like,
00:42:51.700
oh, hi, I saw your commercial. I was like, you're treating me well now? I was telling
00:42:55.920
Eddie Griffin about it. I go, so what's your question? Like he was already made it a little
00:42:59.220
bit. And he's like, so like, you don't know how to like treat them because they were like
00:43:01.780
such dicks to you. And now, you know, they're only being nice because you're doing well.
00:43:05.960
I was like, yeah. He goes, here's what you do. Have sex with them.
00:43:10.380
Because that's your revenge. Have sex with them.
00:43:12.560
Oh, really? Huh? Yeah. If you're good at sex, if not, it's just fucking.
00:43:18.200
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is. Robbie from, uh, from when he was still at, uh, uh,
00:43:23.980
Montreal, he would do this great thing where he'd call people like Whitney and he'd be like,
00:43:28.340
just to call not to do anything, not to get them going. Just go, Hey, sorry. I missed the boat on
00:43:33.840
you. I know you showcase for new faces a bunch and we didn't take you. And clearly looking back,
00:43:38.000
we were wrong. Anyway, no offer or anything. I just want you to know that. And if comedy central
00:43:42.260
called you with no offer, just say, Hey, I, and it wasn't me. I wasn't at this position before,
00:43:46.820
but someone else here was, I know you blame the whole company just so you know, we're happy for
00:43:50.880
your success. Clearly we missed the boat. So that fucked us over. Yeah. And we're sorry about that.
00:43:56.180
I hope you're having a good day. Yeah. There's, Oh, it would have been nice. There's nothing,
00:43:59.960
nothing. But then if they come to you six months later, like, Hey, you want to do this? I do like,
00:44:03.480
maybe you guys seem cool. That apology. I didn't pick you up from the airport. I should have. I'm
00:44:08.620
sorry. You can't just skate by it. Yeah. You got to own up to it. That's fascinating, man. That's a
00:44:14.120
good point. That's a real good point, man. I think a lot of that is just like, yeah, making some amends,
00:44:19.160
having some, uh, I didn't do that right. And I'm sorry. It's just like I've had, I mean,
00:44:24.740
I've had people turn on me left and right. So you know how few of them ever said, Hey man,
00:44:28.780
I shouldn't have done that. Okay. Forgiven. But most of them just go, I hope it goes away.
00:44:33.760
Yeah. And then when you come successful, like my friends have, they go, how are you doing? Like,
00:44:38.200
you don't think I remember? They don't, they don't. That's the worst, man. I've had it.
00:44:45.360
You got another Celsius back there. Uh, Zach, or can you have Colin grab one? Thank you. That's the
00:44:50.380
worst one. I've had friends that have gotten successful that had done me wrong. And I still
00:44:54.480
had to be like, not like subservient to them, but I, I knew I was never going to get any
00:45:03.660
like apology or something, you know, I guess it's just life though. Huh? Yeah. I've had
00:45:08.660
people, um, thank you. That's five cents. I've had people apologize to Rogan about what
00:45:16.880
they said to me. And it's like, Oh, what a weird Hollywood thing. You'll say you're sorry
00:45:22.400
to the famous guy because you're afraid he might turn on you, but never to the guy you
00:45:28.200
actually wronged or you'll wait to the famous guy called you out and go, okay, I shouldn't
00:45:31.640
have done that. And it's like, be a fucking man, man or woman, but be an adult.
00:45:36.920
It's hard. And most of the women are trying to be men. Let's be honest. So it's like,
00:45:40.160
be a man, be a man, be a fucking man, be a man ladies. Sorry. I got us off on a, on a not
00:45:46.300
funny track. Yeah. Yeah. Um, what about dating? What's up in the day in the love
00:45:52.080
life? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome. These dudes butts, man. They're so hungry
00:45:57.800
for my cock. Are they really? Yeah. Have you been doing, you haven't, you don't do
00:46:01.340
gay stuff, huh? Sometimes you gotta get in there and mix it up. I've never done it,
00:46:05.780
man. I, uh, I think if I was in like the mill or a war or something, maybe. Yeah. How
00:46:12.720
long in the zombie apocalypse would it take for you to fuck a, fuck a butt? No
00:46:17.600
women or woman. Have you ever fucked a woman, but I've probably been around. Yeah. I've
00:46:24.700
done what I could anyway. It's a real, it's, it looks easier on, in a draw, you
00:46:29.700
know, you still got to still do hugging conventions. It looks easier in, Oh, you
00:46:33.560
mean the orgasmic meditation conventions, the huggings you go over and like cuddle
00:46:37.680
with people. No, I never did that. What I did was the orgasmic meditation. What is
00:46:40.940
that? They just had a documentary on it. Actually. I just watched a little bit of
00:46:44.520
it. Oh no. On the orgasmic meditation. It was called one taste. This was a
00:46:50.320
program. I thought, yeah, you had to go over and keep, keep women company. Yeah.
00:46:55.820
So this was the program, man. It's so funny. You mentioned that dude, you have
00:46:58.900
such a good memory. So there was short term gone long term is still there. Yeah. I
00:47:04.060
talked about it 10 years ago. That's why this one, uh, they had a, they had this
00:47:08.180
orgasm incorporated. She's cute. She can get it. That chick can get it. She is
00:47:12.700
the creator of it. I think her name was Audra something. She can call herself
00:47:15.640
whatever she wants. So she, um, this was orgasmic meditation. I got invited by the
00:47:22.060
lady that does Tommy pickles voice on rug rats. Right. So she invited me, I met her
00:47:28.360
on a podcast and she invites me down to this meditation thing. Her brother, I think
00:47:33.340
had been in prison and he was there. So next thing I know, I walk in, it's like
00:47:38.420
this kind of nice ambiance. It's in a warehouse downtown and there's people
00:47:42.700
like having like, uh, little, you know, cantaloupe and everything like that little
00:47:48.540
tray of this and that little meat, select meats and stuff like that. And so I'm
00:47:53.000
having a nice time. And then we all sit in the chairs. They start telling us what
00:47:55.980
it's about. And, and then it's, it's called orgasmic meditation. Then they get a
00:48:00.960
woman up front on this table and they take her underwear off. And then she
00:48:05.420
like has her legs open. Yeah. This is it. Kind of, she has her legs open on
00:48:11.200
these pillows and then the man puts on gloves and they just picked two people
00:48:16.500
out of this. I mean, it was like red Rover, red Rover. What? So this dude is
00:48:21.240
like, Oh man, it's so embarrassing too. Like you might, Oh, it's like in class
00:48:25.880
when they're like, who knows the answer? And you're like, don't call me.
00:48:27.820
Don't call me. Yeah. And this is like raising your hand, but with your
00:48:30.320
pussy, you got to go in there and just fucking, well, you, they teach you how
00:48:33.600
to do it. They teach you how to use, you just use one finger and you do a
00:48:36.720
certain amount of lotion and stuff like that. And first you have to describe
00:48:40.440
the woman's, uh, vulva maybe or something. I don't know what it's called.
00:48:45.360
Ubula. Pussy. Yeah. Yeah. You got to describe that. And it's kind of crazy
00:48:53.320
because sometimes you're like, man, it looked like, you know, it looked like it
00:48:56.780
looks disgusting. Well, it looks like somebody made it with a shotgun, you know,
00:49:00.340
but then sometimes you're like, serious medical help. Yeah. Sometimes you're like,
00:49:04.520
dad, this thing looks like a damn paper cut, but a fucking positive attitude on
00:49:08.740
it, you know? Like, so sometimes it's, it was, but anyway, you had to do that.
00:49:12.600
And then you had to sit there and they had like a certain way you had to kind
00:49:16.000
of, uh, pleasure the woman, uh, clitoral stimulation. And the, the, the boss
00:49:24.360
would walk around and tell you how to do it. So you would, um, like a yoga
00:49:30.020
instructor is like, no, no, get your back. Yeah. Oh wow. And it would be 15
00:49:35.440
minutes of pure doing that. And you do that. You reached in a fucking, you have
00:49:39.680
gloves on. So it's almost just like dying. It's almost like dying your sideburns
00:49:45.180
or your beard. I mean, it just, you know, it just takes a little while in a way.
00:49:48.240
I'm sure it is in another way. Yeah. It's really different than that, but it
00:49:53.960
was crazy, man. And then at the end, you all hug, they do a big team hug and
00:49:57.880
you never fucked. No, but there's people that want to, I mean, like you must. So
00:50:02.080
then you get on the message boards and now you're driving over to people's
00:50:04.680
houses during the day and stopping over. And one lady over on Laurel Canyon up
00:50:09.340
there, her dog bit. That's when I quit. Her dog bit me while I was doing the
00:50:14.520
thing, you know, and she wouldn't lock the dog up and so I'm fighting with this
00:50:17.880
lady in her, you know, her pants or just the whole, it was like, this is too
00:50:23.020
much. I don't want to get a charge or nothing. And I'm not doing anything bad,
00:50:26.040
you know, but it was sometimes you go over and then they want set, you get them
00:50:30.460
all like, Hey, yeah. You're like, I'm just trying to do the program, dude. Cause
00:50:36.220
it'd be matched up. You get matched up with a 70 year old. You get matched up
00:50:39.240
with like a 21 year old. Yeah. And then you're turned on. I heard a story about
00:50:43.160
red Fox. He would ask somebody to go to the comedy store, the waitresses.
00:50:47.880
Mm-hmm. His, his office was like down the street from the store and say, go ask
00:50:52.420
those hot waitresses, you know, guys, whatever to come over to my place. Say
00:50:57.660
red Fox wants you to go over there and it'll be $500. He just wants to go down on
00:51:03.900
you. Hmm. That's it. And they're like, what do you mean? He goes, he wants to go
00:51:07.540
down on you. And it'll be 500 bucks. And he goes, I don't have to sex. Like, nope.
00:51:11.900
500 bucks. Wow. He'll go down on you. Well, okay. Celebrity wants to go down on
00:51:16.660
me. 500 bucks. Not bad. I don't have to do anything. Once you're in there, he's
00:51:20.180
going down on you. He goes, Hey, 500 more. Let's fuck. And you're already in the
00:51:23.560
mindset. You're already like have this guy licking your box and you're like, all
00:51:26.700
right, fuck it. Yeah. Let's go. Wow. You wouldn't have gone for a thousand for
00:51:30.500
sex incrementally. So what is that? Is that like, uh, you're already fucking rubbing a
00:51:37.060
chick's fucking monkey. Yeah. And then it's like, Oh, well don't leave so
00:51:41.180
soon. And then he leaves and he's like, now, you know why they call me red
00:51:44.520
Fox. Maybe he's like the menstrual starter and he just like starts. It's
00:51:50.860
like, yeah. The menstrual show. You worried you're pregnant. Yeah. Don't worry. I got
00:51:55.160
you. And he's just wearing a chef's hat. So racist. Those are your kids. Uh, those
00:52:06.100
are my nieces and nephews. They're good kids. They're pretty good. The one's
00:52:09.980
bad. You can see the one is bad. Which one is he? That one. He's got
00:52:14.860
problems. Oh, he does actually. He used to hide on the shelves and you come in a
00:52:18.640
room and he fucking like a damn gargoyle. Yeah. He was real wild. Uh, have you had
00:52:23.860
the chance to be an uncle or an aunt? Yeah, I'm an uncle a ton. Are you? Yeah. I'm
00:52:27.500
the cool uncle. My brother thought he was the cool uncle. And I was like, why would
00:52:30.660
you be the cool uncle? And he's like, what do you mean? I'm like, cool. I'm
00:52:33.900
like, Michael, I, I like, I fuck hookers, dude. Yeah. What are you talking
00:52:40.100
about? Yeah. I traveled the world. Yeah. You might be a cool uncle in another
00:52:45.080
family. Right. I'm a standup comedian, dude. Right. What do you get? Casual
00:52:49.680
Fridays? Yeah. Get the fuck out of here, bro. I'm the cool uncle. Yeah, I'm the cool
00:52:55.200
uncle. They're all, when they want to experiment with drugs, who are they going
00:52:57.980
to call? You. You or me? Yeah. Me. Yeah. Yeah. That's true, huh? There is
00:53:02.740
something fun about being the cool uncle. Also, there's something that gets weird for
00:53:06.040
me about being the still single, the still not married uncle. Right. Do you start to
00:53:10.480
feel that at all? Like you're at an event and you realize, oh my God, everybody here
00:53:14.240
has a spouse or a significant other. Yeah. Your friends from high school too, where
00:53:19.260
they're like, what? And they'll live through you. You go to the beach weekend with
00:53:23.260
them. Like, you're going to try to fuck. I'm like, no, I'm here with you guys. We're
00:53:25.520
playing can jam. Yeah. You try to fuck. And I'm like, guys, relax. Yeah. And the only
00:53:31.900
person around here is your wife. Yeah. So I don't think you need to be egging this
00:53:36.120
stuff on. And besides, she hates you. She's going to leave in about six months.
00:53:40.060
Exactly. I can see it. I've seen breakups. You haven't. They ain't going well. Yeah.
00:53:44.960
It is weird. Cause you also start to be like, people are like, I don't know. Guys
00:53:48.160
are like, I don't know if I'm with that guy around some single guy. And, and then
00:53:52.020
also the wives start to hate you. Yeah. The wives. And then the kids will get into
00:53:55.680
college. And then the dude, I had a buddy of mine's kid was flirting with me and I'm
00:54:00.080
like, jeepers creepers, man. You know, an adult, you know, 22 years old. Yeah. But
00:54:07.000
I'm like, shut this down. You know, you got a fucker. No, you gotta, no, I'm sorry, dude.
00:54:13.040
The ruling has been made. It's out of my hands now. And then it's a black dude in his
00:54:21.100
chef's hands. Like fuck her buddy. Dude. I'm always telling my buddy's kid to like, she's
00:54:24.860
like kind of not shiftless, but directionless. She's like, she went to a year college and not
00:54:29.320
just trying to figure it out. And I'm like, I'm like, Hey, you should go travel. Same
00:54:33.260
as I tell you, but I'm like, especially a 20, 21 year old. I'm like, it's the perfect
00:54:37.220
time. Take that gap year. Find out what you're interested in. Go to South America. And I don't
00:54:41.440
tell my buddy that I keep telling her that, you know, cause I can't be like, what are you
00:54:44.920
telling my fucking kid to leave the country? You know? But I'm like, I mean, as your kid's
00:54:48.520
friend. Yeah. I'm telling her like real advice. It's up to you to let her not go. But yeah,
00:54:54.080
that's true. Huh? Do you, um, she saw my special on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. She loved
00:55:01.540
it. People are liking it. Have you noticed that, uh, there's been a good, uh, well, I
00:55:04.640
guess you'll probably start going out and touring more now. Or what's kind of some of
00:55:07.660
the plan after it? It is a plan and you want people to see you. People want to see
00:55:11.200
you. People will, um, you know, I'm going to get lost a little bit, you know, take a
00:55:16.120
little vacay, go to South America. So where, where is a place that I should, what's a place
00:55:20.660
cause if I'm not doing drugs and stuff, what's a good place for me to go? Oh my
00:55:24.220
God. So many. Um, okay. What interests you? Maui. I like usually. Okay. Let's go
00:55:32.500
deeper than that. Okay. We're further away. Let's another country. All right. What do
00:55:36.740
you got? What's what closet your head? You know, you gotta, you got some weeds in
00:55:39.640
there. What have you always been interested in? I like Spanish. Okay. What about
00:55:45.820
Spain? What about all of Latin America? Any, any countries like kind of pop into your
00:55:50.000
head of like, let me just throw some names out. Belize, Guatemala, Nicaragua,
00:55:55.080
Nicaragua. My father's from there. That'd be cool. Argentina. Argentina would be cool.
00:56:00.200
Have you been there? No, I would love to. Yeah. Go to, um, what's the main city in
00:56:05.800
Argentina? Uh, no, no, no. San Paolo's Brazil. Um, Zach doesn't know it. I'm good. I thought
00:56:17.180
I'd do it off the top of my head. Damn. I should know it. I know we all should. Buenos
00:56:21.300
Aires. Buenos Aires. Start there. Take some tango classes. Tim Ferriss went there a long
00:56:27.040
time ago. Yeah. And then fell in love with tango. Lived there for six months taking tango
00:56:31.440
lessons. Wow. Do you think? Yeah. Go there. There's great. Stay and then go away from the
00:56:37.440
city. You can get an Airbnb to be, have a home base there and then like go on little trips
00:56:42.680
and come back to that Airbnb. Take my podcast stuff, do a couple episodes down there if
00:56:46.720
I need to. A thousand percent. You could do that. Especially you do it solo a lot, right?
00:56:50.960
Yeah. Sometimes. Next week is solo guys. Well, dude, then yeah. And the devil's experience
00:56:56.480
doesn't come back without a few. I just did this crazy trip doing this. I took my first
00:57:00.760
tango, do an hour on that. And then like the next day, like I had another crazy experience
00:57:05.160
way in again, space them out, you know, release them every week. Oh, if you could take your podcast
00:57:09.420
shit there for sure. Find an Argentinian comic who speaks English.
00:57:15.080
Or just any Argentinian. A hundred percent. Interview them. Regular people shit.
00:57:20.480
Where is a place? Yes, you could do that. That is a good idea. I wonder if right after Christmas,
00:57:25.080
I have some time. This is what I told Bobby. Cause he's, he said you might, guys might be doing
00:57:30.820
something. And he goes, he goes, well, so I got to finish whatever he's finishing and whenever
00:57:36.240
it is. And then he goes, then I might have this thing. I'm like, put it in your contract
00:57:40.240
ahead of time. You, you can't, you're done. No matter when it's the, whatever deal is finalized,
00:57:44.560
you're done June, July, you're not available. We can start in August. And they go, well,
00:57:48.800
we want you. He's like, it's already my deal. Start in August. Yeah. Talk to Theo ahead of time.
00:57:52.160
Have your same, take the same fucking time. Dude, Buenos Aires, you know how jealous I am just
00:57:56.680
hearing that the thought of that's a possibility. It's that fun. Oh my God. Take your podcast.
00:58:01.560
Take some Spanish classes, go there and just enroll in a Spanish class. You know, it'll
00:58:06.780
give you some like direction every day. You'll meet some other people in the class. Plus you'll
00:58:10.700
be a nobody, which will be cool. Yeah. You know, walk the streets. No one will look at
00:58:14.320
you. No one will say anything to you. Yeah. And you can do your podcast from there. God
00:58:18.740
damn it. You've made a fucking perfect life. Fuck. I'm legitimately jealous at the thought
00:58:24.060
of that. I'm jealous. I'm jealous at the thought of it too. And it could be a reality.
00:58:28.340
It could easily be a reality. Grab this fucking mic and just take it and unscrew this thing
00:58:33.420
and go. I hope. What's a place where you've gone if you're doing, so just so our audience
00:58:39.620
knows, if people want to meet great food, where do they go? Because you've been so many
00:58:44.080
places. Thailand is great food. Mexico is like the star of Latin America for food. But I
00:58:52.060
mean, there's also great food everywhere. But like, I'm trying to think. Europe is not
00:58:56.320
as great for food. Finding a wife, where do they go? Vietnam, Cambodia. Yeah, you can
00:59:03.760
fucking get yourself a nice one. Dude, I went to- But I mean an actual wife, not a sex.
00:59:09.060
Oh. People like Costa Rica. Oh, yeah. Learn to surf. Yeah. Down in the Florida Keys. Yeah.
00:59:18.620
It's a different place, but yeah. Where else, dude? Dude, I went to look for some live
00:59:24.960
music. I was in, I think, Cambodia. And I was like, it was my day, my psychogeography
00:59:29.240
of the death. I'm going to find some live music. I'm going to sit with my notebook and
00:59:31.800
do some writing. Couldn't find it. Eventually, it was like, oh, I think there's some in this
00:59:35.440
bar. I'm like, oh, only on Mondays. I'm like, fuck. And then I kept all night, like, look.
00:59:39.200
Found some. And it was just an 80s cover band. Oh. And it was a sex bar. Wow. And it was all these
00:59:44.480
old 62-year-old men, you know, with their young women and young men. Really? Yeah.
00:59:50.660
And they were all, they had a community. And so it was cheesy fucking beach rock, you know,
00:59:56.020
playing cranberries and shit like that. And all these dudes. Yeah. Some guys getting a blowjob
01:00:02.740
by like a 21-year-old. And they're not in a rush because these girls are hanging out with
01:00:06.240
them, you know, and they're all talking to each other. They're all smiling because they're
01:00:09.820
not worried about some chick bringing them down. Which was like, you have $8?
01:00:13.480
Wow. It could change my life. Yeah. It's going to be so cool. Dude, I would love to see
01:00:18.900
you host a show like a 90-day fiancé or something like that. Because I feel like you'd have such
01:00:23.200
a good take on where these people are from and some of the ambiance of these countries
01:00:29.160
and the reality of them staying together and the bullshit, you know? Yeah. If you did
01:00:35.400
a recap of that, I think. Talk to them. Like, what's it like? No judgment. Yeah. No judgment.
01:00:40.140
That's the key. No judgment. Because people go over there and they, you know, somebody
01:00:43.040
gots a little calf with them or something. There's a lot of dowry going on and it's
01:00:46.460
like you kind of don't know what's going on. Some of them, too, they'll be your tour guide
01:00:49.460
slash sex person for like a week or two. And then they're just like, I love you. It's
01:00:53.700
like a girlfriend experience. Yeah. And then they go, hey, I'm having trouble paying my
01:00:56.700
rent. Do you mind sending me? They're like, here's 500 bucks. And every year, they'll be
01:00:59.460
like, hey, my son's having surgery. He's like, here's 500 bucks. They get six or seven of
01:01:03.460
those guys on the hook. They're making their living. Fuck. 500 bucks every two months with a different
01:01:08.160
guy. They used to have a guy when a lot of Nigerians, dude, or Nigerias, whatever they
01:01:15.000
call them. But whenever they were doing that thing where they were scamming people on the
01:01:21.400
internet, scamming people's grandparents. Oh, yeah. There's a comedian whose grandparents
01:01:26.140
got scammed, right? So he started, his grandmother got scammed. I wish I could remember his name.
01:01:32.800
I knew it was. Bob Saget. He worked with Bob Saget? It was Bob Saget. Oh, it happened to Bob Saget?
01:01:36.940
Yeah. Well, there was another guy that it happened to. Yeah. And it-
01:01:40.800
I like to replace, instead of saying people's names, I'll just replace them with dead comics.
01:01:43.740
Oh, yeah. You know? So this did happen to Bob Saget. Oh, no. I think it was Louis Anderson
01:01:48.500
this happened to. Okay. Oh, right. Okay. So his mother got scammed. So then what he started
01:01:54.720
doing was he started contacting these people and saying, all right, I'll give you this money.
01:01:59.180
They didn't know it was the grandson. I'll give you this money. If you do a reenactment of
01:02:05.560
like the intro to, or this scene from Seinfeld. What? And he'd send him a link to the scene
01:02:13.180
and then he'd have like four Nigerians send back like a spoof, like, and he just kept
01:02:19.600
putting these together. Oh, he played a couple of them for me. It was so ridiculous.
01:02:24.260
Dude, Tebow does that. Jason Tebow does that with like, with like sex, like, hey, I'm horny.
01:02:28.660
And he'd be like, what are you up to now? He goes back and forth with them on like DMs.
01:02:33.840
And he's like, I don't know. I'm thinking of killing myself. Well, what's you up to?
01:02:36.680
I'm like, I need a man. And he goes, yeah, it's cool. I read any good books. He just refuses.
01:02:42.460
He just keeps them on the line. It's so great. Oh, it's so fun to fuck with him back.
01:02:48.500
Yeah, that's sick, man. Getting a, yeah. Getting that sex, getting into that sex work.
01:02:55.200
I wonder if that's how Bobby got, got his Twitter hacked.
01:02:59.260
I bet he, he was like, he was like, somebody was like, you're so hot. He was like, well,
01:03:03.300
let me send you my passwords. I bet it must've been. Who gets scammed if you're not a grandma?
01:03:13.140
No, they're just like, give me money. Hey, I'm, I'm, I need to, can you wire me 200 bucks?
01:03:20.420
We knew a guy who got the Nigerian scam. These guys used to hang out at the store.
01:03:25.740
Tweets are protected. His account's locked now.
01:03:28.780
So if anyone can help Bobby get his Twitter back, let him know.
01:03:33.320
Stevie Weeby. Yeah. And he said, his brother was like, hey, he's acting like a dick to all of us.
01:03:38.560
What's going on? Like, why are you acting like a dick? He's like, I'm about to come into some fucking money.
01:03:41.400
You guys will all be sorry. And they're like, what? Like, yeah, dude.
01:03:44.200
He started just being a complete asshole to everybody.
01:03:45.860
And they're like, where are you getting this money? He's like, I know a guy, royalty, getting out.
01:03:50.140
And I got off. And they're like, what? Like, he fell for it. A 22-year-old.
01:03:55.020
And they're like, that's a scam. He goes, no, it's not.
01:03:57.540
And they're like, was he from Nigeria? And they're like, he was like, it's not a scam.
01:04:02.400
Just realize, like, that's your natural state is to be a dick.
01:04:06.760
Yeah, money will make you, it'll make you see some things about yourself, man.
01:04:10.240
We gave Eddie Bravo, or Redman did. We were on the road. I think it was in Boston with Rogan.
01:04:15.220
He got one of those fake scratch-off tickets. Handed out a couple, like, losers and one winner.
01:04:20.400
They always sell them in, like, three. So Redman's like, yeah, I got everybody's scratch-offs.
01:04:23.940
Gave Eddie Bravo the fake one. He gets two, like, cash, cash. He goes, whoa.
01:04:29.860
And we're all like, I was like, oh, I lost. You know, Redman's like, I fucking lost to it.
01:04:34.920
And he fucking hits it. We let him play it. He's like, oh, my God, I won $10,000. This is crazy.
01:04:41.660
And we're like, wait. And he goes, Redman, I'm giving you $5,000. I'm giving you five.
01:04:46.400
That was so cool. The whole drinks were on me. And he was so nice. We're like, oh, fuck.
01:04:50.740
We were, like, hoping he'd be a dick. He's so nice. We're like, oh, we got to break the news to him.
01:04:59.660
I'm glad you brought him up. I got to text Eddie back, actually.
01:05:02.100
Even saying that makes me feel like, dang, I need to message him.
01:05:05.760
What else do we have? Some more news that came up?
01:05:13.400
Well, Elon Musk apparently fired a Twitter employee who disagreed with him.
01:05:19.000
You must love this world because Elon is now this sort of Geppetto of this world that was really that we don't need Twitter.
01:05:26.380
We don't. I deleted mine a year and a half ago. It's such a toxic place.
01:05:30.420
You can't say anything like, oh, I like this cactus.
01:05:33.440
It was like, well, there's a lot of other fucking vegetable, fruits, and trees that need help, too.
01:05:38.600
It's just – it's only there for apologies and –
01:05:42.740
After they spoke out and Twitter and even the company's private Slack.
01:05:45.560
Yeah, I guess a developer, like, was kind of –
01:05:48.160
Elon tweeted something about, like, the infrastructure of Twitter and a developer was like, he's wrong.
01:05:56.600
This Gen Z and even some millennials, they think they're powerful.
01:05:59.840
So you can't publicly talk shit about your boss.
01:06:04.800
It's like, what world did you grow up in where you can just shit on your boss and think that's okay?
01:06:11.280
That's why New York Times can't write a real story because you go over your boss's head to your boss's boss.
01:06:15.940
And they go, hey, are you not printing the stories of the young black people?
01:06:19.340
I'm like, no, I'm printing the stories of fucking college kids.
01:06:24.100
And then I were beholden to the fucking employees instead of the employers.
01:06:27.920
And Elon Musk's like, nah, I built a billion-dollar company.
01:06:34.580
That lady who walked out on – Chappelle got – made as a guest on SNL for the fucking eighth time.
01:06:42.820
Or you can just write a pro-trans fucking sketch and make him be in it.
01:06:49.840
If I was that boss, I'd be like, don't come back.
01:06:55.280
We booked a guest, and you're an employee here.
01:06:58.760
Do you think Hollywood has narrowed itself into a whole – I mean, I think a lot of like – you can't even make fun – the only people you can make fun of anymore are Russians, I feel like, or poor –
01:07:12.940
Or poor white people they still make fun of, I think.
01:07:18.900
I think that's why you get a lot of people that are so like –
01:07:29.820
My new special is for a Jew on YouTube right now.
01:07:37.460
One thing I loved about your special was the special was free, right?
01:07:41.080
And then one of the first comments was it was like, who says Jews never give anything away for free?
01:07:50.500
Yeah, I'm like, here's this free thing, but give me some money.
01:07:52.580
Yeah, but it was – I thought that was really, really cute though, but that's cool.
01:07:55.940
Yeah, guys, check it out and make a donation there to support the freedom of comedy also too.
01:08:00.880
You know, I always wondered if guys like Rogan would create a platform that people subscribe to, you know?
01:08:10.180
I could see Segura doing it too, like a $5 a month app on your Apple TV.
01:08:19.360
And don't worry, it's going to be funny because the guy in charge is like, we want funny.
01:08:27.020
But we're not going to be – we're not going to be like, fuck, we haven't had a –
01:08:39.020
And that's – I guess a lot of things get put on Rogan's shoulders, I guess, hypothetically, since he's such a force, you know?
01:08:44.440
But, yeah, guys like Segura or even if like a group of comedians partnered up and said, okay, let's create this platform.
01:08:51.440
We'll each put a special on it once every two years.
01:08:54.940
They say like you make money on YouTube, right?
01:08:57.460
They say like if you see the – so if you're making money on YouTube and they're selling ads, YouTube is making money as well.
01:09:04.740
Probably 80%, 90% of it, which is fine, whatever.
01:09:08.020
They kick some down so it incentivizes you to put stuff up.
01:09:11.580
But what if we just made our own platform and we put stuff up on YouTube and there, this other platform where we get all of it minus some operating costs?
01:09:23.460
You know, if we're making 10% of it and you can make – so far, three and a half million hits on that.
01:09:30.180
I think I've made like 25 grand in ad revenue and that's 10% of what they're making.
01:09:45.520
Someone needs to put it in and put some cash in.
01:09:51.420
It's hard to make a platform that actually works well, doesn't lag and shit like that.
01:09:55.780
I think you would get together because say if you got – if you get a million people to subscribe at $5 a month, they know they're going to get one.
01:10:04.900
And then the ads come in just like here but we get it all.
01:10:08.520
I guess I was thinking of something that just had specials on it.
01:10:11.800
So even if you started with that, you just had specials.
01:10:17.400
You would need a lot of subscribers because if you had 50 people, wouldn't pay for it.
01:10:21.280
You'd have to have a – say if you get a million.
01:10:23.980
Which I think say if you had enough certain comedians, you could get them all to say –
01:10:29.680
You could decide after the end of the year who's got one of the year.
01:10:46.920
That's why you need an Ari Shafir Jew on YouTube.
01:11:00.580
So then if you paid the comedian, say you gave each comedian, whoever's going to put their special on, you gave them $2 million.
01:11:08.680
And then you said also in three years you get the special back.
01:11:15.260
It'll sit here for a certain number of years, and then at a certain number of years it'll go back to you.
01:11:22.740
And it's also, hey, if people are coming here to watch specials, keep it up there.
01:11:28.080
Sure, but you're getting less percentage on YouTube than here.
01:11:31.980
But I think then you would have a platform that kind of sets comedy free in a way.
01:11:36.920
Making $2 million would be a lot more than losing $180,000.
01:11:47.140
We're going to make a nice donation to it, man, just to thank you for coming too.
01:11:55.160
Some people donated one, and I'm like, that's great.
01:11:57.200
You don't have any money, but you want to be like, that was good.
01:12:01.280
Is there a strong support from the Jewish community being Jewish, do you feel like?
01:12:04.480
Dude, I thought it might go negative, and it's not in that.
01:12:07.180
It's been really like – people are like, this is awesome.
01:12:09.280
This is clearly reverential to our society, making fun in a fun way, you know?
01:12:15.280
What are the rules of – that you can make fun of Jews or not?
01:12:27.940
There's a tone behind it where some other guy is like, shut up, redneck.
01:12:34.840
You know, there's like – you can tell of friendliness.
01:12:42.940
If a joke doesn't go over, it seems more hateful than if it does go over.
01:12:46.760
Like me, Brian Dorfman and I always tell Jewish jokes to each other, right?
01:12:54.540
It's like, oh, what did the one Jewish guy say to you?
01:12:56.700
He goes, hey, man, I'm sorry to hear about the fire.
01:13:07.540
He's talking about some strip club burning down on the sunset.
01:13:11.660
It burned so much that the bus stop outside on the sidewalk melted.
01:13:20.620
It burned harder than 9-11, dude, which we also planned.
01:13:34.800
He goes, hey, it's a break-even week, but it'll get you in if you want to come feature for me.
01:13:46.240
And I was on stage, and she goes, Tom, should we throw quarters at him?
01:14:03.300
Did you feel like a lot of the Kanye stuff, like, did you have people asking you about it?
01:14:18.480
He's saying, legitimately, he's saying the same shit that I've said for years.
01:14:29.160
My literal agent is not Jewish, but he's one of my Jews.
01:14:33.540
And when he goes, I'm going DEF CON on the Jews, he means he's going to fire his agents.
01:14:38.660
He's not just going to say, I'm going to fire my agents.
01:14:48.600
But, but like, they're like, these anti-Semitic statements, like, guys, he doesn't, they write
01:14:54.260
a narrative and then they go like, that narrative can't be wrong.
01:14:58.320
I'm like, I think you're jumping off ground might be wrong.
01:15:06.460
So as a gay man sitting here, he has to do this.
01:15:08.460
And I'm like, wait, you might not be right about the gay part.
01:15:15.820
And then you're pushing him deeper and deeper into like defending himself.
01:15:20.800
He might've had one thought here or there that's a little off.
01:15:23.020
And now you're making, who's coming down on him?
01:15:38.200
Dude, I'll tell you this, the flat, I'll tell you how I even learned about flat earth.
01:15:42.300
I'm at a pizza spot, Palm Springs, two black dudes roll up on me.
01:15:46.460
They said, do you think that that pizza is round or flat?
01:15:54.560
And next thing you know, for one hour, I'm sitting in an Italian spot, listening to two
01:16:06.200
When you meet a crazy person, do not argue with them.
01:16:11.000
You will not change their opinion and you will have lost the chance to hear their whole
01:16:17.220
If you meet a QAnon person, you go, you're making some good points.
01:16:26.660
You know, if you, if you get fucking Mike Shanahan going like, can I tell you about some
01:16:37.380
By the way, literally every person I know, maybe outside Joe Rogan cannot prove to you
01:17:00.200
That was one thing that I thought was interesting that Kanye said was about like history.
01:17:03.500
Like the people that whoever owns the world or controls the world.
01:17:14.000
And the bookstores there, they start with when Fidel and Che had control.
01:17:27.760
But they have, they call it the American War, not the Vietnam War.
01:17:34.000
Because it's like, this is just, the Americans attacking us, which is one of the, we just drove
01:17:37.880
out the French and then we had a few years and the Americans came in.
01:17:50.520
And it's like, oh yeah, I guess you have a different angle on it than we do.
01:17:54.280
You were just living your life and suddenly some fucking round eyes showed up.
01:18:02.400
It's interesting that, like even in Rome, probably, the Romans probably had the ability
01:18:09.320
And that's what they're doing now when Rolling Stones rewrites a list of like top albums.
01:18:12.440
They're like, well, it was all white albums with a few, but it's like, they actually
01:18:17.660
We should re-examine that based on like, you know, if I had to write top albums, it'd
01:18:26.540
But if I was in charge, it'd be all Arcade Fire, one through four, you know what I mean?
01:18:30.600
Then the Killers, four through eight, you know?
01:18:38.580
That's sometimes what I think about Hollywood, like that I felt about Hollywood is like,
01:18:42.960
I would go into a lot of meetings, a lot of pitches and stuff, and it kind of felt
01:18:46.740
like the people had the same, it was like the same people over a while, you know?
01:18:54.180
It's like, you don't want a diversity of experience, you know?
01:19:01.680
And like, yeah, that's not the kind of black we're looking for.
01:19:07.640
It was like, whenever we did this not happening, it was like, we needed this, we needed this.
01:19:15.920
You got to go look, you got to go to Houston and find Ali.
01:19:18.620
I need a guy who has N word in his name, you know?
01:19:22.840
Like, I need somebody who's like, you know what I'm saying?
01:19:27.300
Or somebody who's like, yeah, it just, I think that's one of the, been one of the things
01:19:31.900
about Hollywood that I think puts us in a place like Quentin Tarantino.
01:19:37.600
Yeah, he, he just did an interview where he said we're in the worst age of movies of
01:19:44.840
If you wanted to do a cop drama right now from the 70s, set in the 70s, you couldn't
01:19:54.200
Or you're just like, then do a cop drama set now because you can't show the reality.
01:19:59.200
So then it's like, you ever watch like a show when you were growing up and all the cops
01:20:04.440
And you're like, all right, but you definitely didn't say freak a lot.
01:20:09.680
You know, but it's like, all right, there's sensors.
01:20:13.740
You can't just, I mean, when they did the comedy store show, uh, whatever that was that
01:20:28.480
And then they, in middle of that, they had the me too movement and they go, well, let's
01:20:31.960
show the women in the seventies being strong and it's like, well, that's not what the fucking
01:20:38.580
And just in the middle of it, they were like, oh, this just got lame.
01:20:41.340
Cause they're worried about fucking presenting a, a case instead of just like presenting
01:20:47.200
That's what gets concerning to me is, is, is Hollywood.
01:20:50.000
Like, are we starting to get to a point where we're not even presenting the truth, the, what's
01:20:54.460
really happening, but also because we don't, it's the same type of people in there that
01:21:04.640
So they don't even know what they're taking down.
01:21:06.540
Sophie Buttle just had this, she, she made a fucking joke in her special and calling
01:21:11.020
attention to the fucking rapes of indigenous people in, in Canada.
01:21:15.200
And somebody was like, well, you should, these are troubling things.
01:21:19.560
I've been raped and I'm fucking saying the similarities between what they've been going
01:21:23.100
through and they fucking crave TV, fucking cave TV, just fucking took it down.
01:21:28.140
She's getting all these death threats and she goes, I'm, I'm on the front lines of your
01:21:37.760
They don't understand their issue and they just go like, ah, get rid of it.
01:21:40.540
And you're like, it's your fucking guy with the black guy with the chef hat.
01:21:52.100
I think other people who are like, well, quit fucking picking on me.
01:21:57.420
I like, I'm not that guy, but I'm not that guy.
01:22:00.860
Let's, if we want to know who did slavery, let's go back.
01:22:08.960
You had to disinfect this whole thing, but you're doing that because you're looking to
01:22:15.440
You wish to see, they call me Harvey chocolate milk, son.
01:22:30.760
I heard a story about a friend of mine grew up in the Midwest a long time ago when I was
01:22:36.500
I was in seminary, but he went over to someone's house and, uh, he made a Dahmer joke.
01:22:40.800
You know, everybody got quiet, you know, where this is going.
01:22:47.360
Our cousin was one of the victims and he goes, Oh, I got to go.
01:22:59.940
Um, it was just so uncomfortable, but you know, wrong audience for sure, but probably
01:23:27.160
You know, outside the box thinking that's what we need more of in this country.
01:23:31.300
Jeffrey Dahmer hero spelled his name with an H, you know, who would have thought H in
01:23:35.920
And who would have thought eat guy fucking outside the box.
01:23:43.620
And it'd be like burger shaped, like fingers and stuff like, you know, a lot of chicken
01:24:08.360
I'm starting to travel podcast and it's like, I'm doing it in my home.
01:24:11.100
I'll get you on there eventually when you have more time.
01:24:15.100
But I hate when people are like, ah, fuck, I'm busy.
01:24:18.760
Like, I'm not looking at anybody to get rushed.
01:24:20.520
But yeah, I think I want to get like a studio like this so I can go and like have some more
01:24:28.220
And then I'll just get like a backdrop I can put up in like a studio like this.
01:24:33.940
A man told me the other day, I was at a breakfast place and he goes, you know what you could use?
01:24:36.840
Maybe a certain piece of signage where wherever you are, you take that.
01:24:42.120
Like this and now it's like Theo Vaughn's world.
01:24:49.040
I'm going to do this travel podcast and it's called You Be Trippin'.
01:24:51.780
You can subscribe now, but it's not coming out yet.
01:24:53.340
But what I want to do is some of them in a studio and some of them out there in the world.
01:24:57.140
So if I meet some traveler in fucking Brazil and we're in the rainforest, I'm like, dude,
01:25:05.280
You know, I did one in a hostel in Paris with this guy who's like traveling for fucking
01:25:14.920
It's not quite as good looking as, you know, a studio like this, but it has some uniqueness.
01:25:19.980
And there's the original element of the rogueness of it.
01:25:36.180
I think if they don't really go with, like, I feel like they're pretty safe.
01:25:56.680
And it's just like me and Bobby Kelly or me and List.
01:25:59.540
Record a fucking podcast just with an iPhone and fucking clap it and just, like, smoke
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So we did one at a cigar plantation, the Foundation Cigars, and we just went in the tobacco fields
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And it just looks cool in front of a field of tobacco leaves.
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It's uncomfortable, but that's, like, part of their culture, you know?
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Adam Eget really pulls his dog around the city I've seen.
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It's almost like he didn't make the reindeer thing or something and he's like...
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Like, his dog, like, was gonna be a reindeer, but he didn't make it.
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So then he's like, you're a disappointment to me.
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I was joking about Bobby Kelly, but Eget is a piece of shit.
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If your next special isn't called I Don't Want Any Trouble...
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Your Photoshopper, I think, needs to be sentenced.
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Your Photoshopper makes me fucking scream a lot of times.
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Oh, they all go nuts, Shart and Torelli and all these guys.
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If it makes me laugh or cringe, I'm bound by the gods of comedy to put it...
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I'm a fucking Nazi with a fucking German shepherd on top of it.
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I'm just hanging out in a fucking basement just going, watch my special, Ari Shafir Jew.
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Is there something about being Jewish that other people don't understand?
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I heard there's a theory that if you're more than 60 IQ points away from someone else,
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Because there's also a thing where there's like Jewish hate, like Jewish self-loathing
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You're just like, ugh, I hate that on this thing.
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Dude, when we were starting comedy, we had a self-hating gay, and that was his act.
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He's like, I know I'm gay, and it's disgusting.
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It was the most interesting, unique take of literally any comic in my entire career.
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He hated himself, and he was presented that to the stage of a self-hating gay.
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Didn't deny being gay, but thought he was evil for having these thoughts.
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Because I'm just trying to think if there's stuff about Judaism that I don't understand.
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We have specific diseases that are made just for Jews.
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But then it's like, well, that's a limited gene base, you know?
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I mean, Iceland is even more limited, and they have an app that shows if you're somebody's cousin.
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But if you can fuck anybody, well, now we've got all sorts of genes.
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You get two ugly parents from different races, the kid is fucking gorgeous.
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So you get two parents with exactly the same thing, the kid is fucking, you know, disease-ridden.
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So do you have to marry a Jewish person, or you don't have to?
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Will people learn about being Jewish from your special?
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It's kind of like how compared to, like, Brian Regan or Nate Bergazzi, where they're clean
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I say, like, you got to, these bits have to be good enough to follow Norman at the stand.
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Ari Shafir Ju, you can check it out on YouTube.
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Fucking play in Thanksgiving for your family and Christmas.
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It's generally like, shit, my dad walked through the room.
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Now, is that enlarging your heart a little bit?
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Because you've always had a little bit of this kind of, a little bit of, not Grinch, but this.
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Yeah, tell me that's not a fucking, what a mind.
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Arce, if you're a man, thank you so much for continuing to make comedy, man.
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So for being a part of, for just not even giving up on yourself when things were tough.
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I had an old lady made me cry so many times, and now it's just like, fuck, hurdle, I guess.
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And she was like, I prepared you for all of this.
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You can check him out with Robert Kelly on the Two Cigars.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind I found.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Jonathan Kite, and welcome to Kite Club, a podcast where I'll be
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sharing thoughts on things like current events, stand-up stories, and seven ways to pleasure
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And as always, I'll be joined by the voices in my head.
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Anyone who doesn't listen to Kite Club is a dodgy bloody wanker.
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I'll take a quarter pounder with cheese and a McFlurry.
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Sorry, sir, but our ice cream machine is broken.
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