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00:01:18.660 Today's guest is a singer-songwriter out of Ireland.

00:01:22.840 And Ireland is one of the most beautiful and complex and simple places all at the same time.

00:01:33.280 A wonderful time that I had there recently.

00:01:35.660 I'm really grateful to spend time with him.

00:01:37.700 I've been a fan for years.

00:01:39.440 And we've been in touch for years.

00:01:41.300 And glad to make this happen.

00:01:42.680 And he has had hits like Paradise and Kiss Me, amongst many others.

00:01:49.240 I got to see him play last night here in Nashville, Tennessee.

00:01:53.800 Today's guest is my friend, Dermot Kennedy.

00:01:56.940 Shine that light on me

00:02:00.520 I'll sit and tell you my stories

00:02:06.260 Shine on me

00:02:11.180 And I will find a song

00:02:15.440 I've been singing

00:02:16.640 I've been singing

00:02:17.740 Kiss me the way

00:02:26.320 Oh, man.

00:02:27.520 Sorry.

00:02:28.220 No, it's okay.

00:02:29.120 I didn't mean I meant

00:02:30.220 I meant that for me.

00:02:32.460 Oh, yeah.

00:02:33.360 I'm gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:35.220 I like that you did it.

00:02:37.380 Dude, yeah.

00:02:38.000 Listen, I think after like the first song last night

00:02:40.640 I was

00:02:41.020 I leaned over to your

00:02:42.020 I was like, God, dude, I might be gay, dude.

00:02:44.580 I was like

00:02:44.960 This is really awesome, man.

00:02:48.380 It felt

00:02:48.860 It felt

00:02:49.880 So serious.

00:02:51.540 Like I was saying to you afterwards

00:02:52.520 It felt like a very serious show

00:02:53.700 When I play headline show

00:02:54.900 We've got moments that are down

00:02:56.640 And somber

00:02:57.320 And the moments that are fun

00:02:58.540 And up

00:02:59.160 When I do a show like that

00:03:00.600 Like the Bluebird last night

00:03:01.460 It's quite

00:03:01.940 You know, it stays serious

00:03:03.540 And I haven't done that in a long time

00:03:04.920 Yeah

00:03:05.300 And I think crowds sometimes want both

00:03:07.860 So I would worry while I'm doing it

00:03:09.900 If people are kind of like

00:03:11.180 This is a lot of seriousness, you know?

00:03:13.540 Like it feels serious, yeah

00:03:14.780 Yeah, which it should be

00:03:15.900 I take it seriously

00:03:16.640 But it's just like

00:03:17.600 I think sometimes you need relief

00:03:19.180 But I think then as well

00:03:20.680 I like having funny moments

00:03:23.420 In between songs

00:03:24.220 Talking to people

00:03:24.780 Because I don't take life very seriously

00:03:26.100 But I take the songs very seriously

00:03:27.680 Oh

00:03:28.260 Yeah

00:03:28.740 Yeah, man

00:03:29.820 When you like got into the songs

00:03:31.080 You were at Bluebird Cafe last night

00:03:32.460 For our listeners

00:03:32.980 And that's a small venue

00:03:34.300 In Nashville

00:03:35.640 And it's probably

00:03:36.660 I mean, it may seat 60

00:03:38.980 Yeah, if even

00:03:39.940 Yeah

00:03:40.260 Yeah

00:03:40.620 And I mean, we were sitting

00:03:41.600 I was in the second row

00:03:43.080 And I was five feet

00:03:45.000 From Gabe Simon

00:03:47.940 Who was playing with you

00:03:49.280 Yes

00:03:49.620 Accompanying you

00:03:50.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah

00:03:50.660 And like I could have

00:03:52.080 Done a couple notes

00:03:53.500 I could have

00:03:54.080 You could have

00:03:54.920 You should have

00:03:55.440 Yeah, I could have chimed

00:03:56.680 Literally, I could have chimed in

00:03:58.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah

00:03:58.980 It would have been nice

00:03:59.580 It would have been a very welcome thing

00:04:01.240 I think

00:04:01.560 But yeah, it was captivating, man

00:04:03.380 It was so incredible

00:04:04.500 I was like

00:04:04.980 Yeah, it felt so intense

00:04:06.560 In there at moments

00:04:07.260 You know

00:04:07.560 You could see everybody

00:04:08.780 Going through like

00:04:09.940 I mean, I was going through

00:04:11.580 Like the history of like

00:04:12.680 Relationships

00:04:13.780 And like I felt bad

00:04:14.800 Like after one song

00:04:15.700 I was like

00:04:15.900 I gotta text this one gal

00:04:17.500 Yeah, yeah, yeah

00:04:18.440 You know

00:04:18.520 Yeah, well we spend so little

00:04:19.920 You know

00:04:20.360 I think we kind of

00:04:21.520 In daily life

00:04:23.000 We go through the motions

00:04:23.880 And I think

00:04:24.400 I would like to think

00:04:26.020 Moments like that

00:04:26.660 Maybe put you in a spot

00:04:27.880 Where you think about life

00:04:29.200 And just assess things

00:04:30.280 A little bit

00:04:30.760 You know

00:04:31.040 Like that's what it does for me

00:04:33.400 I don't know who I'd be without it

00:04:35.120 You know what I mean

00:04:35.580 I think sometimes

00:04:37.160 In terms of the therapy

00:04:39.040 And catharsis I get from it

00:04:40.340 I think I take it for granted

00:04:41.340 100%

00:04:42.000 I don't know who I'd be

00:04:42.880 Without that outlet

00:04:43.740 You know what I mean

00:04:44.200 And I find it difficult

00:04:45.160 Sometimes it's tricky

00:04:46.160 Like last night

00:04:46.900 Started the show

00:04:48.000 I loved it

00:04:48.540 End of the show

00:04:49.660 I was feeling good

00:04:50.300 In the middle of the show

00:04:51.380 I kind of went within myself

00:04:52.440 For some reason

00:04:53.260 But yeah

00:04:54.840 I think I'd be

00:04:55.840 A much worse person

00:04:57.500 If I had all that emotion

00:04:58.420 Kind of bottled up

00:04:59.440 You know

00:04:59.700 Are the Irish notorious

00:05:01.920 For like struggling

00:05:03.780 To show emotion

00:05:04.900 Or something?

00:05:06.520 I think there's definitely

00:05:07.300 Issues in terms of

00:05:08.540 Like men in particular

00:05:11.300 I think in terms of

00:05:12.620 Not opening up to people

00:05:14.240 I think it's something

00:05:14.840 That's improving constantly

00:05:16.460 But definitely

00:05:17.820 And I think

00:05:18.740 I mean it's no surprise

00:05:20.040 That Ireland has a

00:05:21.020 Rich history in the arts

00:05:22.580 Because that's how

00:05:23.240 It comes out

00:05:23.720 You know what I mean?

00:05:24.280 Authors, actors

00:05:25.140 Musicians, everything

00:05:26.600 Yeah man

00:05:27.940 It was crazy dude

00:05:29.300 It was like

00:05:30.100 I went through it all

00:05:31.480 You know

00:05:32.180 I was sitting there

00:05:33.000 I was like

00:05:33.360 I even

00:05:33.920 I got home

00:05:34.720 And I texted

00:05:35.260 An ex-girlfriend

00:05:35.960 I was like

00:05:36.280 I think I owe you a call

00:05:37.360 You know

00:05:38.000 That's a nice thing right?

00:05:39.240 No it was good

00:05:39.800 And yeah

00:05:40.700 I'm glad I did

00:05:41.540 You know

00:05:41.900 Yeah there's a lot

00:05:43.460 Of ballads there

00:05:44.460 I know yeah

00:05:45.640 I was thinking

00:05:46.340 Were you

00:05:46.900 And it's because

00:05:47.580 You don't have

00:05:48.180 All the instrumental

00:05:48.920 Like I've listened

00:05:49.760 To your albums

00:05:50.220 Where it's like

00:05:50.680 You have the whole

00:05:51.320 And some of those

00:05:52.000 Are upbeat songs

00:05:52.860 And it's different

00:05:53.580 But when you're

00:05:54.560 Playing them

00:05:54.980 Just right there

00:05:55.740 For everybody

00:05:56.340 Totally

00:05:56.860 But even like

00:05:57.560 How you frame

00:05:58.380 Something is so important

00:05:59.180 Like I even laughed

00:06:00.100 When you were singing

00:06:00.680 Kiss Me There

00:06:01.180 A minute ago

00:06:01.600 Because

00:06:01.880 That to me

00:06:03.720 Is one of the best

00:06:04.240 Songs I've made

00:06:04.940 Lyrically

00:06:06.080 In terms of how

00:06:06.940 It's put together

00:06:07.480 But I would

00:06:08.500 If it was

00:06:09.620 If I could do it again

00:06:10.600 It would just be me

00:06:11.140 And a guitar

00:06:11.500 It'd be like last night

00:06:12.440 You know what I mean?

00:06:13.380 And I think

00:06:13.880 You know

00:06:14.160 I think

00:06:14.640 You frame things

00:06:15.700 In a certain way

00:06:16.480 For certain goals

00:06:18.040 And stuff

00:06:18.460 But when I play

00:06:19.760 That song by itself

00:06:20.500 I'm like

00:06:20.800 Oh it should be this way

00:06:21.680 I think

00:06:22.460 It takes

00:06:23.740 Courage to

00:06:25.000 Take everything away

00:06:25.920 From a song

00:06:26.420 And it's only recently

00:06:27.700 I've kind of got that back

00:06:28.540 Because like I said

00:06:29.000 Last night

00:06:29.360 When I would play shows

00:06:31.020 Like that when I was younger

00:06:31.780 I felt so confident

00:06:33.820 You know what I mean?

00:06:34.340 Because I loved

00:06:34.840 That no one knew who I was

00:06:35.820 And I loved that

00:06:36.700 I had something

00:06:37.640 To bring to the table

00:06:38.320 And people might be excited

00:06:39.280 And I felt

00:06:40.180 Like I said last night

00:06:41.520 I felt borderline

00:06:42.320 Kind of arrogant about it

00:06:43.380 But now when I'm doing it

00:06:44.540 I got quite nervous

00:06:45.400 For last night

00:06:46.000 But if it's like

00:06:47.600 10,000 people

00:06:48.240 I don't get nervous at all

00:06:49.080 But things like last night

00:06:49.920 I do get a bit nervous

00:06:50.840 Yeah

00:06:51.080 Yeah just now

00:06:52.060 When you said like

00:06:52.840 It used to be nice

00:06:54.120 To be a surprise

00:06:55.100 Yeah

00:06:55.520 Dude that was

00:06:57.420 The best

00:06:59.160 Yeah

00:06:59.420 That's one thing

00:07:00.500 I miss the most about

00:07:01.960 You know

00:07:03.240 I'm grateful for having

00:07:04.360 Like people come out

00:07:06.300 And people get to know you

00:07:07.260 And stuff

00:07:07.560 But it was awesome

00:07:09.680 When only you knew you

00:07:11.360 Of course

00:07:11.760 In a way

00:07:12.300 And you got to be this

00:07:13.720 Like

00:07:14.140 You were like

00:07:15.680 We're always your secret

00:07:16.820 Because you're you

00:07:17.620 Right

00:07:17.860 Of course

00:07:18.120 And you build up this

00:07:20.160 Especially as a comedian

00:07:21.340 You build up this sort of rapport

00:07:22.700 With how to interact

00:07:23.620 With the world

00:07:24.200 And the surprise people

00:07:25.860 Are like

00:07:26.140 What

00:07:26.400 How did

00:07:26.980 What is this guy

00:07:28.100 Like that always seemed

00:07:29.800 Interesting to me

00:07:30.800 And then

00:07:31.920 People get to know

00:07:33.440 How your instrument works

00:07:34.800 Or

00:07:35.040 It's just

00:07:36.100 The surprise isn't there anymore

00:07:38.520 And it's different

00:07:39.680 Totally

00:07:40.120 I mean that moment

00:07:40.960 I'm sure you feel this

00:07:42.160 Like that moment

00:07:42.680 Where you feel like

00:07:43.200 You've arrived

00:07:43.780 And people know

00:07:44.920 Who you are

00:07:45.520 And

00:07:45.720 And

00:07:46.180 Yeah

00:07:47.380 No longer

00:07:48.120 Do you surprise people

00:07:49.120 And so

00:07:49.660 You kind of feel like

00:07:50.960 You have to change

00:07:51.800 Or deviate from what you're doing

00:07:52.900 And to try and keep that feeling

00:07:54.520 It's tough

00:07:55.020 I find it difficult

00:07:55.780 I know like

00:07:56.440 I know for myself

00:07:57.980 Like I remember seeing a thing

00:08:00.300 An interview with Drake years ago

00:08:01.660 And he was just saying

00:08:02.320 That moment

00:08:02.840 Where people are sharing your music

00:08:04.100 And kind of say

00:08:04.600 You gotta listen to this

00:08:05.400 You'll never get that back again

00:08:06.760 No matter how

00:08:07.400 Successful you get

00:08:08.580 Because that's the most exciting part

00:08:11.120 I don't know

00:08:11.540 I think like

00:08:12.200 For what you do

00:08:13.520 For what I do

00:08:14.040 For anyone involved in the arts

00:08:15.460 I think

00:08:15.860 The work is the only thing

00:08:17.920 That's exciting

00:08:18.520 It's the only thing

00:08:19.380 And of course

00:08:19.900 You play big shows

00:08:20.780 And you have ambition

00:08:22.720 And you try and grow your career

00:08:24.300 And all those things are lovely

00:08:25.540 But at the root of it

00:08:26.440 If you're not

00:08:27.020 Like I always say

00:08:28.160 You could be miserable

00:08:28.920 Playing in stadiums

00:08:30.060 Do you know what I mean?

00:08:30.620 Or you could be completely content

00:08:31.980 Playing shows like last night

00:08:33.140 So I think it's very important

00:08:34.160 To keep that

00:08:34.920 Yeah I noticed

00:08:36.060 When I have some new stuff

00:08:37.220 And that is the most exciting time

00:08:39.380 When I'm ready

00:08:39.860 When I'm like

00:08:40.520 Wait till I get to this new part of the show

00:08:43.140 Of course

00:08:43.740 And it's gonna be fun for me

00:08:45.400 And it's gonna be fun for them

00:08:46.740 You know

00:08:47.080 Oh yeah

00:08:47.520 And I'm sure you could play

00:08:48.560 To like 40,000 people

00:08:49.580 And it can go either way

00:08:51.720 It can be completely euphoric

00:08:53.000 Or it can kind of feel hollow

00:08:54.520 Yeah

00:08:54.980 Either way

00:08:55.500 But it like nothing

00:08:56.580 The work is the only thing

00:08:58.160 I think

00:08:58.700 That's a good point

00:08:59.700 Yeah

00:09:00.140 Yeah and especially these days

00:09:01.420 There's so much like

00:09:02.500 Surrounding things

00:09:04.660 That you have to do

00:09:05.560 To kind of manage yourself

00:09:07.400 You know

00:09:07.820 Like social media

00:09:09.220 And just

00:09:09.660 I mean specifically

00:09:11.540 I guess social media probably

00:09:12.940 It's such a big world of it all

00:09:14.880 Do you get involved

00:09:15.640 With that side of things?

00:09:16.960 Yeah

00:09:17.080 Do you run your own stuff

00:09:17.740 And all that?

00:09:18.320 Yeah

00:09:18.540 No I split it with my producers

00:09:20.300 And stuff you know

00:09:21.220 But you know

00:09:22.480 I'm particular

00:09:23.040 Kind of about what we put out

00:09:24.500 And like try to be sensitive

00:09:25.860 Or try to think

00:09:27.360 Okay this feels like me

00:09:28.980 Sometimes they're like

00:09:29.940 No this is good

00:09:30.880 And I don't have an idea

00:09:32.400 Of course

00:09:33.060 Yeah yeah

00:09:33.640 And so trusting other people

00:09:35.020 Sometimes that's

00:09:36.120 With your own voice

00:09:37.600 You know

00:09:37.940 Totally

00:09:38.340 I think I find it hard sometimes

00:09:40.080 I spend way too much time

00:09:42.180 Worrying about how I'm perceived

00:09:44.440 You know what I mean?

00:09:45.120 Oh yeah

00:09:45.300 And I think

00:09:46.840 Things like social media

00:09:47.980 Only make that

00:09:49.320 More kind of inflamed

00:09:50.640 And then

00:09:51.140 Yeah you just get closer

00:09:52.520 To forgetting what you're

00:09:53.280 Actually truly about

00:09:53.980 So I try and stay away

00:09:55.060 Yeah

00:09:55.560 But it's healthy sometimes

00:09:57.020 Well

00:09:57.780 Before this conversation

00:09:58.980 Gets any gayer dude

00:10:00.400 Oh

00:10:01.060 And no offense if it does

00:10:02.660 Dude

00:10:02.820 I think Irish people

00:10:04.060 No offense to me

00:10:04.840 Yeah yeah sorry

00:10:05.600 Yeah

00:10:06.020 No and probably me

00:10:07.860 I mean look

00:10:09.000 Who knows what'll happen with us

00:10:10.860 But

00:10:11.360 I think

00:10:12.800 Yeah dude

00:10:13.440 The Irish are

00:10:14.500 I couldn't believe

00:10:16.480 What the Irish were

00:10:17.360 I always had an idea

00:10:18.620 You know

00:10:19.060 That wasn't your first time there

00:10:20.060 Though recently

00:10:20.480 It wasn't

00:10:20.960 But it was my first time

00:10:21.900 Really with my eyes open

00:10:23.000 Yeah yeah yeah

00:10:24.020 I saw you in a field

00:10:25.120 With a load of cows

00:10:25.800 Where was that?

00:10:26.400 I was down in

00:10:27.820 Court County

00:10:28.380 Brilliant

00:10:28.860 Oh you'll milk anything

00:10:30.140 Down there people

00:10:30.920 Yeah yeah

00:10:31.740 And there's no women

00:10:32.900 This is the thing about

00:10:33.680 How people are always like

00:10:34.640 Oh the girls are coming

00:10:35.860 They're going to be here

00:10:36.560 And you'll be

00:10:37.580 You'll go to the next place

00:10:38.460 You know how they're coming

00:10:39.220 The lasses are coming

00:10:40.140 It's a false promise

00:10:41.060 They never come

00:10:42.840 Who made all the men?

00:10:44.980 Who

00:10:45.040 How did they

00:10:45.620 What did they fall out of?

00:10:46.980 Yeah they're the ones

00:10:47.540 That stuck around I guess

00:10:48.480 I guess

00:10:48.960 I mean here I am

00:10:50.280 This is some women we met

00:10:51.660 It was like unbelievable dude

00:10:53.480 Actually these are some

00:10:55.060 Drunken mixed fellows

00:10:56.240 That we met out there dude

00:10:57.700 These are the blackest guys

00:10:59.200 I saw in Ireland right here

00:11:00.360 Did you just

00:11:00.740 Were you invited to this field?

00:11:02.440 No we got there

00:11:03.340 And we wanted to like

00:11:04.240 Just drive out into the distance

00:11:05.660 Yeah

00:11:06.080 And so we stopped at a farm

00:11:08.080 And a man took us

00:11:10.240 And showed us all about the dairy

00:11:12.280 And gave us fresh milk or whatever

00:11:14.140 And um

00:11:15.520 Do you drank the milk

00:11:16.280 Straight from the cow?

00:11:17.020 We drank it straight out of it

00:11:18.140 Did you really?

00:11:18.740 I mean it felt

00:11:19.540 I don't know how old the cow was

00:11:20.640 It felt a little illegal

00:11:21.620 I'll be honest with you

00:11:22.440 I mean the first sip

00:11:24.180 Yeah that's normal

00:11:25.400 But if you

00:11:25.800 You know I had a couple sips

00:11:27.120 And I'm like

00:11:27.500 You got into it?

00:11:28.200 I mean it's like

00:11:29.140 Yeah yeah yeah

00:11:29.840 You definitely peek around

00:11:30.780 For the police after a bit

00:11:32.000 You know

00:11:32.300 Yeah yeah

00:11:32.660 But it was yeah

00:11:34.120 It was just unbelievable

00:11:34.660 We just wanted to see the countryside

00:11:35.940 We wanted to feel something

00:11:36.980 That felt normal

00:11:37.740 A farmer took us into his home

00:11:39.700 And sat at his table

00:11:40.860 No way

00:11:41.320 Yeah

00:11:41.620 I'm glad you got around the country

00:11:42.840 I think a lot of people

00:11:43.640 Go to Dublin for two or three days

00:11:45.020 And they just experienced that

00:11:46.260 But Ireland's a beautiful place

00:11:47.780 And you can

00:11:48.200 You can see so much of it

00:11:50.080 In like a couple hours

00:11:50.900 You know what I mean?

00:11:51.380 It's a small country

00:11:52.300 So

00:11:52.640 Yeah and you have to see it

00:11:54.140 Because if you ask somebody something

00:11:55.380 You can't understand what they're saying

00:11:56.940 And so you just

00:11:58.360 You have to just believe

00:11:59.640 That they're going to be okay

00:12:00.800 When you meet a lot of Irish people

00:12:02.000 Yeah yeah

00:12:02.480 They love you too

00:12:03.300 Did you like

00:12:04.420 You had good shows?

00:12:05.560 Yeah

00:12:05.720 I mean I felt a lot of love and support

00:12:07.900 Yes

00:12:08.340 And it was awesome you know

00:12:09.700 I think

00:12:10.420 And it's just such a unique culture

00:12:12.920 Like they just

00:12:14.000 They have a good time

00:12:16.100 They know how to have a good time

00:12:17.980 Yeah

00:12:18.260 They're not as overly concerned

00:12:20.360 With a lot of other bullshit

00:12:21.940 Like as we are in the States

00:12:24.080 You know

00:12:24.480 Definitely not

00:12:25.080 Like if I go on tour in Australia

00:12:26.440 I feel a similar thing

00:12:27.460 People just don't take it too seriously

00:12:28.960 Yeah

00:12:29.460 You've been down there yet?

00:12:30.440 Oh yeah

00:12:30.680 Australia is so great man

00:12:31.940 Yeah

00:12:32.240 Similar thing

00:12:32.860 People just

00:12:33.300 There's no bullshit

00:12:34.180 You feel good energy from people

00:12:35.540 But I have a comedian friend

00:12:37.400 Mark Hayes

00:12:38.020 And he's Irish

00:12:38.780 And so he's always

00:12:40.220 Cuing me in on just like

00:12:41.440 The shame of the Irish

00:12:42.640 And the

00:12:43.120 Yeah

00:12:43.520 You know the dark

00:12:44.560 You know

00:12:45.840 I guess there's a lot of shame

00:12:47.420 Over there

00:12:48.000 I guess there is

00:12:48.980 But also

00:12:49.840 There's

00:12:51.160 I don't know if you heard

00:12:52.180 This phrase earlier there

00:12:52.940 About notions

00:12:53.560 This idea that when you start

00:12:54.920 Doing well at anything

00:12:56.240 You get notions

00:12:57.180 Like you kind of start

00:12:58.180 Feeling yourself a bit

00:12:59.040 And you have to be

00:12:59.580 Very careful of that

00:13:00.300 I think

00:13:00.860 Humility

00:13:01.880 Like you see Irish people

00:13:02.820 Who just won medals

00:13:04.120 At the Olympics

00:13:04.600 They just kind of

00:13:05.480 In the interviews

00:13:06.160 They're just like

00:13:06.660 No no no

00:13:07.220 I stink

00:13:08.160 They're so mean to themselves

00:13:09.860 Yeah

00:13:10.240 It's terrible

00:13:10.980 But yeah

00:13:12.400 A happy medium would be good

00:13:13.720 I think sometimes

00:13:14.820 You kind of are

00:13:15.360 Constantly downplaying

00:13:16.440 What you do

00:13:16.960 And I think

00:13:17.880 It would be nice

00:13:19.240 If people celebrated

00:13:20.180 Themselves a bit more

00:13:20.920 But notions is a real thing

00:13:22.100 Yeah

00:13:22.300 I know

00:13:22.700 Like people have said

00:13:23.520 About me

00:13:23.880 You get to a certain point

00:13:25.080 And some people

00:13:25.560 Just don't like you

00:13:26.240 For no reason

00:13:26.780 Yeah I could maybe see that

00:13:28.420 Because there's this

00:13:29.280 More unity of us

00:13:30.500 As a group

00:13:31.140 Yeah yeah yeah

00:13:32.120 Yeah

00:13:32.500 I remember there was

00:13:33.220 A thing years ago

00:13:34.060 I think it was

00:13:35.620 Damien Rice told the story

00:13:36.640 They were like in a restaurant

00:13:37.560 And there was lobsters

00:13:38.860 And who was Damien Rice

00:13:40.080 He's a brilliant musician

00:13:41.480 From Ireland

00:13:41.960 Okay

00:13:42.340 He had a song called

00:13:43.140 Cannonball

00:13:43.680 And an album called

00:13:44.500 Oh it's like a classic

00:13:45.460 And he

00:13:46.160 But he was talking about

00:13:47.460 Lobsters in a tank

00:13:48.260 I think it was him

00:13:48.920 I don't mean to attribute

00:13:49.820 This quote to him

00:13:50.480 If it's not him

00:13:50.980 But he was

00:13:51.540 Apparently there was

00:13:52.740 Like a lobster

00:13:53.140 Trying to get out

00:13:53.820 And another one

00:13:55.700 He was kind of like

00:13:56.680 Oh careful

00:13:57.060 It's going to get out

00:13:57.540 And someone was like

00:13:57.960 No they're Irish lobsters

00:13:58.800 So the other ones

00:13:59.360 Will like drag it back down

00:14:00.260 Oh yeah

00:14:00.920 Apparently

00:14:01.360 The shellfish

00:14:02.640 I don't know

00:14:03.900 Yeah

00:14:04.360 I love it

00:14:04.720 You feel massive support too

00:14:06.020 Don't get me wrong

00:14:06.620 Oh it was great

00:14:07.240 It's the best place in the world

00:14:08.200 For doing anything

00:14:09.560 Because people just

00:14:10.340 We're so quick to celebrate our own

00:14:12.540 And I love that

00:14:13.140 Oh that's beautiful

00:14:13.860 Yeah

00:14:14.100 Yeah what's that article right there

00:14:15.640 It was about an Olympian

00:14:16.300 Irish rower's brilliant response

00:14:17.840 To winning an Olympic gold medal

00:14:19.020 Goes viral

00:14:19.780 It's alright

00:14:20.640 Yeah I can't complain

00:14:21.460 In a BBC interview

00:14:22.920 Following the win

00:14:23.500 The pair were asked

00:14:24.240 Paul O'Donovan

00:14:25.100 Fenton McCarthy

00:14:26.120 Gold medal winning athletes

00:14:27.240 How does it sound

00:14:28.120 How does that sound

00:14:28.940 It's alright

00:14:29.620 Yeah yeah yeah

00:14:30.320 You can't complain about it really

00:14:31.480 I wouldn't go around

00:14:33.200 Introducing myself

00:14:33.980 Yeah it's that type of thing

00:14:34.860 You wouldn't talk about it

00:14:35.940 You didn't

00:14:36.460 But I love that too

00:14:37.760 Because we do take care of business

00:14:39.080 But don't talk about it too much

00:14:40.380 Yeah there's a bit more humility

00:14:41.380 Definitely

00:14:42.040 Yeah man

00:14:43.020 There was so much like

00:14:44.200 There was something you said last night

00:14:47.480 That I really resonated with

00:14:50.460 It was about like

00:14:51.660 Wishing you could slow down time

00:14:54.480 Or grab onto a moment

00:14:55.880 A little bit more

00:14:56.760 And just how like impossible it is

00:14:58.960 Yeah

00:14:59.220 And like what a fight it is

00:15:00.860 Yeah

00:15:01.460 I'm crap at it

00:15:02.500 What about you

00:15:03.320 I can't

00:15:03.860 Like I

00:15:04.320 When things are good

00:15:06.100 I don't know

00:15:07.280 I feel like I'm

00:15:08.120 Sometimes I feel as if

00:15:09.540 I'm waiting for something bad to happen

00:15:12.540 You know what I mean

00:15:13.200 Oh yeah

00:15:13.480 Like you're almost like

00:15:14.340 Just sort of waiting for

00:15:16.000 Bad news or bad phone call

00:15:17.580 Or something

00:15:17.940 I don't know

00:15:18.420 Instead of just enjoying

00:15:19.980 The fact that it's good right now

00:15:21.020 I feel very bad at that

00:15:22.120 And again

00:15:23.100 Music puts me in a better place

00:15:25.220 But yeah

00:15:26.380 I feel that way

00:15:27.400 I find it very difficult

00:15:28.240 To settle into a good feeling

00:15:29.760 Yeah I think it's hard

00:15:31.940 I mean the moment

00:15:32.980 It's hard to have the moment

00:15:34.060 You used to

00:15:34.640 I've talked about this before

00:15:35.740 But you used to

00:15:36.660 With the moment

00:15:37.320 The moment used to be

00:15:38.720 Like a real thing

00:15:39.580 Because we couldn't record it

00:15:40.800 All the time

00:15:41.320 Right

00:15:41.480 We couldn't capture it

00:15:43.120 So the moment

00:15:44.400 It was like

00:15:45.180 It had so much value

00:15:47.200 The only way you were

00:15:48.000 Going to learn about

00:15:48.780 What had happened

00:15:49.560 Was through someone else

00:15:50.740 Through a storyteller

00:15:51.740 So it promoted

00:15:53.220 So much more storytelling

00:15:54.800 Yeah yeah yeah

00:15:55.380 It's like cameras

00:15:55.980 Have taken all that away from us

00:15:57.440 And not all the time

00:15:58.400 And not all of it

00:15:59.220 But it's definitely

00:16:00.400 It's like

00:16:03.720 Squashed a lot of that

00:16:05.520 You know

00:16:05.820 Definitely yeah

00:16:06.340 I mean the moment

00:16:06.860 If you got to see a girl

00:16:08.160 Like at school

00:16:08.720 You couldn't go home

00:16:09.420 And look at pictures of her

00:16:10.260 You had to imagine

00:16:11.560 Oh so you would wait

00:16:12.380 Till tomorrow

00:16:12.860 What she was doing

00:16:13.760 And mostly in your mind

00:16:14.700 You would imagine

00:16:15.120 Oh she's thinking of me

00:16:16.060 She's drawing pictures of me

00:16:17.540 In the walls and everything

00:16:18.680 And then you got to school

00:16:20.440 The next day

00:16:20.940 And she still didn't care about you

00:16:22.580 Yeah yeah yeah

00:16:23.040 Or like you would see

00:16:24.280 That they're online

00:16:24.780 And they're not texting you

00:16:25.780 Yeah

00:16:26.140 That type of thing

00:16:26.940 Yeah it's squashed

00:16:27.740 Yeah

00:16:28.400 So I think like

00:16:29.820 There's like stuff like that

00:16:31.200 I miss

00:16:31.500 Because your imagination

00:16:32.760 Became so much more of a

00:16:35.400 It did its natural work

00:16:37.380 Absolutely

00:16:37.980 I think about it

00:16:38.860 Yeah like

00:16:39.260 That's my livelihood

00:16:41.620 Comes from my imagination

00:16:42.540 You know what I mean

00:16:43.140 That's all I have

00:16:43.860 And so

00:16:45.080 Yeah you got to be careful

00:16:46.140 I think

00:16:47.100 What you put in

00:16:48.240 Is very important

00:16:48.760 Like if I read

00:16:49.980 I can feel it

00:16:51.020 Sort of

00:16:51.820 I can feel ideas

00:16:52.720 Start to generate

00:16:53.240 If I walk around

00:16:54.020 Just all day

00:16:54.600 And stay just

00:16:56.080 Literally looking

00:16:56.940 At the most boring stuff

00:16:57.860 I can feel ideas

00:16:58.720 Start to come

00:16:59.240 But I got to be careful

00:17:00.000 And not let it get squashed

00:17:01.000 All the time

00:17:01.760 Like what do you mean

00:17:02.620 Like by

00:17:03.340 Like get squashed by what

00:17:05.440 As in like

00:17:05.960 If I look at my phone too much

00:17:06.900 It's just sludge

00:17:07.720 In my brain

00:17:08.240 Do you know what I mean

00:17:08.800 And it's just bad thoughts

00:17:10.180 And stupid stuff

00:17:11.280 And so like

00:17:11.920 No good song

00:17:12.560 Is going to come out of that

00:17:13.340 But also

00:17:13.960 I spend so much time

00:17:14.840 Traveling by myself

00:17:15.760 And all that kind of thing

00:17:16.360 So it's a

00:17:17.300 Yeah

00:17:17.740 To stay creative

00:17:18.760 I find it difficult

00:17:19.480 I don't know

00:17:19.980 Like I know

00:17:20.840 Like we were in your car

00:17:21.900 Last week

00:17:22.300 And you were kind of

00:17:22.780 You taught us something

00:17:23.660 And you were like

00:17:24.060 Oh I need to write that down

00:17:26.940 Constantly trying to grab that thing

00:17:28.220 Or that moment of inspiration

00:17:29.160 Or something that can translate

00:17:30.340 To part of your show

00:17:31.400 Yeah

00:17:31.840 Yeah you notice

00:17:33.360 Especially like a phrase

00:17:34.700 Or a thing

00:17:35.960 Like oh I've never said that

00:17:37.800 Or I never thought about that

00:17:39.300 After a while I notice

00:17:40.660 It's like

00:17:41.160 If it makes me laugh

00:17:42.760 Then it might make

00:17:43.600 Somebody else laugh

00:17:44.280 So I have to like

00:17:45.180 You know

00:17:46.740 Because at this point

00:17:47.340 You have to think

00:17:47.840 Maybe you and your audience

00:17:48.680 Have some like

00:17:49.500 Symbiosis

00:17:52.500 Or whatever it's called

00:17:52.900 We're similar people yeah

00:17:53.620 Yeah or similar

00:17:54.240 Definitely

00:17:54.600 And so yeah

00:17:55.220 If they told you

00:17:55.900 If they told you

00:17:56.920 You know

00:17:58.140 This thing you just heard

00:17:59.100 Or you know

00:17:59.600 So you're like

00:18:00.380 Oh this will probably

00:18:01.360 This will probably play

00:18:02.960 Do you base songs

00:18:04.520 Like do you kind of

00:18:05.260 Start with like

00:18:05.820 A nugget of a line

00:18:06.920 Definitely

00:18:07.600 Yeah I find it hard

00:18:08.600 When someone's kind of

00:18:09.220 Like what you want to write about

00:18:10.000 It's like I don't know yet

00:18:10.740 Like I have

00:18:11.320 I'll have a lyric

00:18:12.380 In a song last night

00:18:13.740 So the first song I played

00:18:14.680 Is called

00:18:14.960 An evening I'll not forget

00:18:16.080 And I know

00:18:17.360 There's a lot of lyrics

00:18:18.020 In that

00:18:18.300 From the best days of my life

00:18:19.300 And from the worst days of my life

00:18:20.400 And they just mix together

00:18:21.540 So I struggle sometimes

00:18:22.640 When someone's like

00:18:23.260 What's this song about

00:18:23.980 Or what you want to write about

00:18:24.860 It's everything

00:18:25.500 You know like

00:18:26.260 There'll be one lyric

00:18:27.660 About like hanging out

00:18:28.460 With my friends

00:18:28.920 And one lyric about

00:18:29.680 Someone passing away

00:18:30.740 And difficult things

00:18:31.940 All mixed in together

00:18:32.900 But it all kind of

00:18:33.680 I think sometimes

00:18:35.280 When I

00:18:35.600 And this is overly serious

00:18:37.280 But I think like

00:18:37.980 The one lasting message

00:18:39.760 Through my music

00:18:40.400 Hopefully is like

00:18:40.940 A hopeful thing

00:18:41.600 You know what I mean

00:18:42.420 So if a song seems down

00:18:43.840 It's never all the way down

00:18:45.320 There's always a hopeful moment

00:18:46.420 And if it's up

00:18:47.060 It just

00:18:47.420 I'm trying to lift people up

00:18:48.740 A little bit

00:18:49.140 I would like

00:18:49.960 If I could

00:18:50.440 Have a goal

00:18:51.740 From people coming to my show

00:18:52.760 Is just they feel a bit better

00:18:53.820 About where they're at

00:18:54.760 And how their life is

00:18:56.100 And not in a corny way

00:18:58.200 But just that they kind of

00:18:59.080 Think about things

00:18:59.920 And realize that life is good

00:19:01.040 A little bit

00:19:01.520 I would love that

00:19:02.280 Even a down moment in Ireland

00:19:04.520 Is pretty good probably

00:19:05.580 I think

00:19:06.020 Yeah

00:19:06.500 Yeah

00:19:06.860 Like I said

00:19:07.280 The Irish are like

00:19:07.820 Oh yeah

00:19:08.120 We'll take it

00:19:08.700 Oh definitely

00:19:09.440 Yeah

00:19:09.700 People are good

00:19:10.260 We kind of

00:19:10.860 Yeah

00:19:11.420 Like I even

00:19:12.080 I don't know

00:19:12.760 I just

00:19:13.180 When I get too far from home

00:19:14.740 I kind of miss that feeling

00:19:15.720 I don't know

00:19:16.440 There's so many people

00:19:17.180 That are happy-go-lucky

00:19:17.940 Good people

00:19:18.620 I'm sure you saw tons of them

00:19:19.960 But just

00:19:20.740 Yeah

00:19:21.720 So that's what I mean

00:19:22.840 Is between songs

00:19:23.720 I don't feel serious

00:19:24.640 Like

00:19:24.860 We're all on in-air monitors

00:19:26.360 On stage

00:19:27.040 And

00:19:27.400 In-between songs

00:19:29.240 When we're on tour

00:19:29.920 It's relentless

00:19:31.560 Like people shouting at each other

00:19:32.740 And we're all just

00:19:33.460 Communicating on stage

00:19:34.340 It's just

00:19:34.720 People like

00:19:35.560 Taking the piss out of me

00:19:36.340 While I'm doing something

00:19:37.200 I'll like

00:19:38.220 Yeah

00:19:39.040 So I'm trying to

00:19:39.640 Sing through all of that

00:19:40.940 Like

00:19:41.580 Everybody on stage

00:19:42.600 Will be slagging me

00:19:43.420 In some way

00:19:43.920 In my ears

00:19:44.260 While I'm trying to say

00:19:45.020 Something really sincere

00:19:45.740 And then I'll laugh

00:19:47.000 And the whole crowd

00:19:48.200 Will kind of cheer

00:19:48.960 Because I look happy

00:19:49.800 But it's really

00:19:50.620 Because someone's like

00:19:51.320 Slagging me about something

00:19:52.340 Yeah

00:19:52.580 Yeah

00:19:53.200 You know what

00:19:54.100 That's

00:19:54.340 There's nobody

00:19:55.480 Likes to laugh more

00:19:57.340 I think than the Irish

00:19:58.260 Maybe

00:19:58.600 Really

00:19:58.960 Yeah

00:19:59.380 Maybe that's something

00:20:00.700 That I realized

00:20:01.340 I was just so

00:20:02.600 Yeah

00:20:04.280 People just love

00:20:05.320 To fucking laugh

00:20:06.520 There

00:20:06.680 It's very sarcastic

00:20:07.540 Yes

00:20:07.920 In a way

00:20:08.400 They love to rip

00:20:08.980 On each other

00:20:09.540 And it's okay

00:20:10.620 They don't take things

00:20:11.420 As personally

00:20:12.120 No

00:20:12.540 You know

00:20:12.940 Yeah in a way

00:20:13.620 That sometimes

00:20:14.700 I'll say something

00:20:16.280 Sarcastic over here

00:20:17.200 And it doesn't

00:20:17.900 Necessarily land

00:20:18.520 And people think

00:20:19.020 I'm quite serious

00:20:19.620 About it

00:20:20.000 So you have to

00:20:20.380 Be careful

00:20:20.740 Yeah

00:20:21.020 Some of the songs

00:20:22.800 Some of the songs

00:20:22.820 Last night

00:20:23.200 It was like

00:20:24.060 Yeah a lot of them

00:20:26.360 Felt like kind of

00:20:26.860 Relationship based

00:20:27.860 Or trying to like

00:20:28.520 Capture a moment

00:20:30.840 From a relationship

00:20:31.480 Or relive a relationship

00:20:33.120 Or where does some

00:20:35.700 Of that energy come from

00:20:36.840 Does it just

00:20:37.280 Do you feel like

00:20:37.840 That's like been

00:20:38.820 Something that's been

00:20:39.540 Very important in your life

00:20:40.740 I mean it's important

00:20:41.320 In a lot of people's lives

00:20:42.160 Of course

00:20:42.440 Yeah I think like

00:20:43.840 I think even the relationships

00:20:46.140 You know sometimes

00:20:46.920 Like were you on

00:20:47.160 The Bachelor or something

00:20:48.140 No I was meant to sing

00:20:49.860 What was I meant to sing on

00:20:50.940 I was meant to sing

00:20:51.480 On The Bachelorette

00:20:52.100 Years ago

00:20:52.600 And it fell through

00:20:53.760 Thank god yeah

00:20:54.500 I uh

00:20:55.580 But I was

00:20:56.820 Yeah cause after

00:20:57.340 Some of the songs

00:20:57.780 I'm like Jesus

00:20:58.380 How many

00:20:58.820 How many

00:20:59.740 No yeah

00:21:00.620 You think

00:21:01.300 This guy's been

00:21:03.060 Yeah

00:21:03.340 Like this guy's been

00:21:04.580 On a lot of dates

00:21:05.720 No

00:21:06.800 That couldn't be

00:21:07.840 Further from the truth

00:21:08.560 But

00:21:09.240 I think sometimes

00:21:10.960 I'll sing a song

00:21:12.420 And it'll be from

00:21:12.960 The perspective of

00:21:13.800 Anybody you know

00:21:14.700 Like a family member

00:21:16.020 Sometimes I'll just

00:21:17.340 Embody someone

00:21:18.100 Else in my life

00:21:18.760 I think it's an

00:21:19.320 Interesting thought

00:21:19.960 Right

00:21:20.180 To think that

00:21:21.660 My community

00:21:22.380 Say my close friends

00:21:23.660 And my family at home

00:21:24.500 We all have the same

00:21:25.880 Feelings and emotions

00:21:26.620 It's just icing about it

00:21:27.900 Do you know what I mean

00:21:28.580 And so sometimes

00:21:29.180 I feel like a

00:21:29.860 Mouthpiece for them

00:21:30.720 Oh yeah

00:21:31.380 You know

00:21:31.740 And that puts me

00:21:32.720 In a good place

00:21:33.540 Cause I'm not thinking

00:21:34.860 About my own life

00:21:35.560 All the time

00:21:36.020 So that's where

00:21:37.020 All the dates come from

00:21:37.820 I've been on very few

00:21:39.120 Yeah it's uh

00:21:40.800 Oh you just

00:21:41.660 Were you not

00:21:42.240 Were you not a big

00:21:42.860 Dater growing up really

00:21:43.700 No oh man

00:21:44.760 I was like

00:21:45.920 Well there are no

00:21:46.960 Women there

00:21:47.460 I'd say these people

00:21:47.480 Went to school with me

00:21:48.200 Yeah yeah yeah

00:21:48.800 I mean

00:21:49.200 Yeah it was

00:21:49.860 Supply and demand

00:21:51.000 Yeah I was

00:21:51.720 That's not your issue

00:21:53.120 Yeah yeah

00:21:53.860 I'd say this

00:21:56.080 A lot of people

00:21:56.640 Went to school with me

00:21:57.320 Who have like

00:21:58.080 If they watched this

00:21:59.040 Would hear me speak

00:21:59.820 For the first time

00:22:00.720 Wow

00:22:01.640 Hated

00:22:01.880 Yeah yeah yeah

00:22:03.140 What do you hate

00:22:03.780 Like the public speaking

00:22:04.620 Of it or something

00:22:05.200 Public speaking

00:22:05.660 Not even public speaking

00:22:06.760 But just

00:22:07.360 I just felt so awkward

00:22:09.300 In school you know

00:22:10.020 Like we used to

00:22:10.740 Oh yeah

00:22:11.460 We used to like go to

00:22:12.600 You know the way

00:22:13.520 You'd have your locker

00:22:14.080 At school

00:22:14.520 And you would get

00:22:15.240 Your books for the

00:22:15.980 First half of the day

00:22:16.760 And then get your books

00:22:17.320 For the second

00:22:17.700 And like drop them off

00:22:18.680 I would walk around

00:22:19.460 With every book

00:22:20.420 For the whole day

00:22:21.720 In my bag

00:22:22.080 So I didn't have to

00:22:22.840 Go to the lockers

00:22:23.380 For that potential

00:22:24.180 Interaction

00:22:24.700 I hated it man

00:22:26.100 Yeah

00:22:26.340 Not good

00:22:27.380 God

00:22:28.140 And is that a

00:22:29.180 Kind of a general

00:22:29.880 Irish thing

00:22:30.600 You think

00:22:30.840 I don't think so

00:22:31.460 I don't know

00:22:32.180 What it was in me

00:22:32.880 But I just felt quiet

00:22:33.820 I didn't

00:22:34.580 Even nowadays

00:22:35.460 I kind of feel that way

00:22:36.680 I think it's lovely

00:22:38.680 Like I'll talk to you

00:22:39.440 And I know we can talk

00:22:40.400 About things and get into it

00:22:41.440 But just general

00:22:42.340 Socializing

00:22:43.460 I suck at it

00:22:44.300 And you know

00:22:45.200 You get to an age

00:22:45.800 Where you don't apologize

00:22:46.380 For it

00:22:46.760 And you don't care anymore

00:22:47.440 But when I was a kid

00:22:48.980 Yeah I hated it

00:22:50.060 Yeah I got so nervous

00:22:52.620 Around girls

00:22:53.500 I just remember

00:22:54.460 Well on the school bus

00:22:56.040 I would get so

00:22:56.780 Like I would get

00:22:57.860 Like erections

00:22:58.540 All the time

00:22:58.980 I guess

00:22:59.280 Because of like

00:22:59.640 The motor going

00:23:00.520 Of course

00:23:01.180 And they would play

00:23:02.380 Like music

00:23:04.000 That we weren't allowed

00:23:04.600 To listen to at home

00:23:05.520 It was like

00:23:06.100 Kind of

00:23:07.200 Not sexy music

00:23:08.260 But just radio

00:23:08.820 Pop music

00:23:09.520 Or whatever

00:23:09.940 Yeah yeah yeah

00:23:10.400 And so I would

00:23:11.240 Just have to like

00:23:11.820 I just would turn

00:23:12.920 My whole body

00:23:13.860 Just like facing

00:23:14.660 Yeah yeah yeah

00:23:15.300 Just and like

00:23:16.900 Oh

00:23:18.220 Just a constant

00:23:19.160 State of arousal

00:23:19.840 In school you mean

00:23:20.620 That was just

00:23:21.480 On the bus dude

00:23:22.500 When I got to school

00:23:23.800 I think there was

00:23:24.540 So much

00:23:24.820 Kind of like

00:23:25.520 Violence and stuff

00:23:26.420 At our school

00:23:26.800 That it was hard

00:23:27.300 To stay erect

00:23:27.900 Around a lot of violence

00:23:28.760 You know

00:23:29.120 Yeah yeah yeah

00:23:30.000 That's a difficult thing

00:23:31.120 Yeah

00:23:31.300 If there's broken glass

00:23:32.800 Or somebody getting beaten

00:23:33.960 I can't get an erection

00:23:35.960 You know

00:23:36.360 Nor should you

00:23:37.160 Yeah I mean

00:23:37.740 Maybe I'm old fashioned

00:23:38.620 Or whatever

00:23:38.940 But it's like

00:23:39.460 Yeah I just

00:23:40.760 Yeah so

00:23:41.600 But yeah

00:23:42.280 Around girls

00:23:42.940 Yeah I was always afraid

00:23:44.020 Never could ask a girl

00:23:45.040 To dance or anything

00:23:46.460 This one girl man

00:23:48.140 I loved her

00:23:48.980 I think I did anyway

00:23:50.640 I don't know

00:23:50.940 I looked at her

00:23:51.600 Really hard every day

00:23:52.560 And I

00:23:53.840 Yeah fine

00:23:55.340 I just

00:23:55.940 I needed to express

00:23:57.660 To how I felt

00:23:58.260 And I saved up

00:23:59.040 As much saliva

00:24:00.020 In my mouth

00:24:00.480 As I could one day

00:24:01.300 And I just spit it

00:24:02.440 Right into her hair

00:24:03.200 Oh lovely

00:24:03.680 Yeah

00:24:04.500 Like an animal

00:24:05.440 Just like

00:24:05.940 You know what I'm saying

00:24:06.340 Yeah every primal thing

00:24:07.220 Yeah it was

00:24:07.680 It was all I knew

00:24:09.100 Yeah yeah yeah

00:24:10.100 You lost control

00:24:10.940 Yeah I

00:24:11.860 I guess I lost control

00:24:12.960 I remember

00:24:13.380 Dear god

00:24:14.440 Yeah

00:24:14.700 Yeah I

00:24:15.500 I don't know

00:24:16.020 I couldn't

00:24:16.640 Like those situations

00:24:17.880 Didn't even come up for me

00:24:18.860 I would just hide

00:24:19.780 I remember

00:24:20.540 I remember there was a girl

00:24:21.940 That used to kind of

00:24:23.540 Fancy me I guess

00:24:25.740 And

00:24:26.460 It got to the point

00:24:27.540 Where I like

00:24:27.880 Stopped putting gel

00:24:28.640 On my hair and stuff

00:24:29.360 Cause I was like

00:24:29.880 I need to look

00:24:30.420 Scruffier for school

00:24:31.220 So no one pays attention

00:24:32.280 Wow

00:24:32.880 Weird right

00:24:33.540 Like I gotta tone this down

00:24:34.920 Yeah too good man

00:24:36.340 Yeah I can't be like this

00:24:37.760 Back into the moor

00:24:38.780 Yeah just

00:24:39.480 Yeah just hide in the corner

00:24:40.660 Constantly

00:24:41.220 What is a moor anyway

00:24:42.600 Moor is like a British thing

00:24:44.180 I guess

00:24:44.720 Oh I thought it was

00:24:45.580 Kind of

00:24:46.000 Swamp is it

00:24:46.620 In my mind

00:24:47.520 I would think of a misty moor

00:24:48.720 Yeah it's like a swamp

00:24:49.880 Okay

00:24:50.340 In the middle of nowhere

00:24:51.140 It makes me think of

00:24:52.040 Jack the Ripper

00:24:52.580 Oh yeah

00:24:53.660 And was that you guys' guy

00:24:54.920 Jack the Ripper

00:24:55.400 No no no no

00:24:56.080 We don't claim Jack

00:24:57.700 Who's your most famous

00:24:59.080 Serial color over there

00:25:00.020 Well

00:25:01.680 Besides alcoholism

00:25:03.120 I'm gonna say

00:25:03.560 If you

00:25:04.520 If you look at

00:25:06.380 There's a great podcast

00:25:08.100 Called West Cork

00:25:08.960 And you could think

00:25:10.540 It's fiction

00:25:10.920 But it's a true story

00:25:11.640 Now it's not a serial killer

00:25:12.460 It's one

00:25:12.920 Standalone murder

00:25:13.920 There's very few

00:25:14.540 Things like that

00:25:15.120 But

00:25:15.300 But it's an amazing story

00:25:17.700 And

00:25:18.400 It's about this lady

00:25:20.160 That was killed in Cork

00:25:21.000 In West Cork

00:25:21.680 Out by the ocean

00:25:22.900 Horrific thing

00:25:24.380 Years and years ago

00:25:25.160 But they still haven't found

00:25:26.080 The person that did it

00:25:27.320 And you know how Ireland is

00:25:28.720 Like there's a lot of talk

00:25:29.520 In the town about who did it

00:25:30.520 Oh yeah

00:25:30.540 And even up until recently

00:25:31.800 The fella that they thought

00:25:32.800 Did it

00:25:33.200 Was like selling pizzas

00:25:34.720 On the market and stuff

00:25:35.660 And everyone would go

00:25:36.560 Just to see him

00:25:37.260 And all that kind of stuff

00:25:37.960 Yeah

00:25:38.240 But no

00:25:39.120 I mean

00:25:40.300 I know I'm wrong

00:25:41.380 But I don't think

00:25:41.900 There's many serial killers

00:25:42.760 I know here you've got classics

00:25:44.140 But

00:25:44.420 Yeah

00:25:45.360 Yeah I guess

00:25:46.180 Yeah

00:25:46.440 People

00:25:46.800 It's definitely

00:25:47.340 We kill

00:25:47.840 There's a lot more

00:25:48.380 We kill over here

00:25:49.740 Yeah

00:25:50.260 Who's your favorite?

00:25:52.100 My favorite serial killer?

00:25:53.360 That's a great question man

00:25:54.620 You know

00:25:56.660 There was the

00:25:59.960 BTK serial killer

00:26:02.240 Who's that?

00:26:03.000 He was out of

00:26:03.780 Wichita

00:26:05.160 Wichita, Kansas

00:26:08.140 And

00:26:09.620 Yeah

00:26:11.160 He was like an electrician

00:26:12.580 He ran

00:26:13.380 He ran

00:26:16.180 Like his community church

00:26:17.980 And he was just killing people

00:26:20.300 They're all like

00:26:21.480 Weirdly handsome as well

00:26:22.680 Aren't they?

00:26:23.260 Not him

00:26:23.680 Not him

00:26:24.980 Well we've had some of the

00:26:26.420 Handsome ones

00:26:26.760 Ted Bundy I believe

00:26:27.640 Was the handsome guy

00:26:28.460 You know

00:26:29.240 Dahmer was a famous one

00:26:30.880 That show was pretty great

00:26:32.000 But

00:26:33.600 Yeah I guess

00:26:35.120 I don't know

00:26:35.460 I should think about that

00:26:36.900 A little bit more

00:26:37.540 Who my favorite one is

00:26:38.940 Yeah

00:26:39.200 No

00:26:39.400 There's very few things

00:26:40.740 Like that in Ireland

00:26:41.240 It's like a small country

00:26:42.440 Well and you also

00:26:43.960 Yeah

00:26:44.280 You'd rather

00:26:44.860 If you kill somebody

00:26:45.900 They're not going to be able

00:26:46.460 To drink anymore

00:26:47.340 Yeah

00:26:48.220 True

00:26:48.620 So true

00:26:49.420 You know it's like

00:26:50.420 Hey we gotta keep this guy alive

00:26:53.020 Yeah

00:26:53.500 We gotta keep the pub in service

00:26:55.500 Local commerce

00:26:56.260 Yeah

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00:30:03.840 So was there like

00:30:04.740 So where does some of that

00:30:05.640 Influence thing come from

00:30:06.540 Like a lot of the

00:30:07.160 Because it's a lot of like

00:30:08.160 You know there's some

00:30:09.320 Love stories there

00:30:10.100 Kind of

00:30:10.400 Definitely

00:30:10.880 But like tons of hip hop

00:30:11.960 I'm listening to hip hop

00:30:12.760 99% of the time

00:30:13.740 Oh you are

00:30:14.020 Yeah like

00:30:14.820 I remember

00:30:16.760 My friend had

00:30:17.740 50 Cent's first album

00:30:18.760 And that was just

00:30:19.860 Huge for me

00:30:20.420 And it's funny

00:30:21.180 Because I listen to it

00:30:21.860 All the time

00:30:22.480 And I never try

00:30:23.900 And let it influence

00:30:24.480 My music too much

00:30:25.200 Because I'd just be

00:30:25.760 Pretending to be a rapper

00:30:26.600 And that would be ridiculous

00:30:27.480 But it does influence

00:30:28.600 The way I write

00:30:29.120 Like I'll write verses

00:30:30.500 In a hip hop type way

00:30:31.560 And no one really knows

00:30:33.120 Or acknowledges it

00:30:33.820 But to me

00:30:34.240 I can feel the flow

00:30:35.160 If there's no beat

00:30:35.860 Or anything

00:30:36.140 There may be no drums

00:30:37.640 Or whatever

00:30:38.000 But it's just

00:30:38.560 To me

00:30:38.920 That's written in a hip hop way

00:30:40.060 Like if I could

00:30:40.760 Yeah I would love

00:30:41.800 To get certain features

00:30:42.700 And stuff

00:30:43.020 That would be my favorite

00:30:43.820 Yeah

00:30:44.300 Definitely

00:30:44.840 Yeah I feel like

00:30:46.120 That could easily happen

00:30:46.980 Especially now

00:30:47.440 Because there's so many

00:30:48.340 There's a lot more featuring

00:30:49.640 Now it feels like

00:30:50.460 Yeah definitely

00:30:51.020 It's important

00:30:51.740 J. Cole to me

00:30:52.820 Is like number one

00:30:53.620 That would be like

00:30:54.800 An incredible thing to me

00:30:55.920 I would love that so much

00:30:56.880 Did you

00:30:58.000 You're here working

00:30:58.560 In Nashville right now

00:30:59.520 Yeah

00:30:59.740 On music

00:31:00.360 Yes

00:31:00.760 Yeah

00:31:01.160 Have you met up

00:31:02.340 With other artists

00:31:02.980 While you've been here

00:31:03.540 A little bit yeah

00:31:04.300 It's funny you know

00:31:04.920 Because like you said

00:31:05.900 Gabe Simon and Joshua

00:31:07.360 Were with me

00:31:08.180 At the show last night

00:31:09.080 In the Bluebird

00:31:09.560 But also the idea is

00:31:11.560 You kind of

00:31:12.120 You kind of have

00:31:13.740 Your friends with you

00:31:14.640 Playing songs

00:31:15.400 And it's like

00:31:16.040 You go back and forth

00:31:16.800 I'll do a song

00:31:17.300 You do a song

00:31:17.900 They do a song

00:31:18.520 But like

00:31:19.820 I don't have

00:31:21.260 Friends like that

00:31:22.100 Do you know what I mean

00:31:22.600 I kind of feel quite solitary

00:31:23.920 When I go to these places

00:31:25.040 Yeah like sometimes

00:31:27.520 You know there's

00:31:28.460 Sometimes people have

00:31:29.180 Tons of features

00:31:29.860 And have tons of friends

00:31:30.720 On songs

00:31:31.260 I feel quite

00:31:32.480 Content in this way

00:31:34.640 But like a bit of a loner

00:31:35.580 In the music biz

00:31:36.580 I feel like I kind of

00:31:37.600 Go about my business

00:31:38.300 In a loner-y way

00:31:40.260 Which is fine

00:31:40.880 I'm okay with that

00:31:41.500 And I love people

00:31:42.020 I think they're incredible

00:31:42.840 I think the other artists

00:31:44.360 In my genre

00:31:45.120 And that are doing well

00:31:46.080 I absolutely love them

00:31:47.720 But I oftentimes

00:31:48.740 If I'm doing a thing

00:31:49.700 Like last night

00:31:50.220 I'm just like

00:31:50.540 I'll do it by myself

00:31:51.220 It'll be fine

00:31:51.800 Oh yeah

00:31:52.240 Definitely

00:31:52.720 Is it just

00:31:53.600 And it's not really a choice

00:31:54.720 That you don't want to

00:31:55.500 Work with other people

00:31:56.180 It's just kind of like

00:31:57.100 This has been going fine

00:31:58.900 This is how I'm doing

00:32:00.060 Do you feel like

00:32:00.780 You don't want to bother

00:32:01.420 Other people ever

00:32:02.240 Yes definitely

00:32:03.740 And I also

00:32:04.480 I don't want to be

00:32:06.700 Kind of

00:32:07.240 I don't want to seem

00:32:07.980 As though I'm reaching out

00:32:08.740 To somebody for their

00:32:09.800 Clout or whatever

00:32:10.500 You know

00:32:11.120 I don't want to seem

00:32:11.900 Sweaty about it

00:32:12.460 I don't think you could seem like that

00:32:12.940 Nice one

00:32:13.660 Yeah I appreciate it

00:32:14.420 To be honest with you

00:32:15.120 I don't think

00:32:15.620 Just you know

00:32:16.940 I don't know you super well

00:32:18.020 But we've gotten hung out

00:32:18.620 A few times

00:32:19.080 I don't think that

00:32:20.220 You could seem like that

00:32:21.300 Okay

00:32:21.580 Yeah

00:32:22.460 That doesn't help anything

00:32:23.480 No no no

00:32:24.040 But you know

00:32:24.480 You still not working

00:32:25.180 With J. Cole

00:32:25.700 But I think you easily could

00:32:28.300 I mean we went out

00:32:29.200 The other night

00:32:29.560 And Zach Brown saw you

00:32:30.640 And he was like

00:32:31.200 I you know

00:32:32.120 Immediately he brought you

00:32:33.420 On to his show

00:32:34.040 Yeah thank you for that

00:32:34.860 He said that immediately

00:32:35.700 He didn't think at all

00:32:36.640 It was cool

00:32:37.240 He just asked

00:32:38.040 He was like

00:32:38.620 So excited to see you

00:32:40.460 Yeah we

00:32:40.760 We randomly ran in

00:32:42.400 And we were at

00:32:42.680 The Red Clay Strays

00:32:43.540 And yeah

00:32:44.320 There you are right now

00:32:44.960 That's crazy dude

00:32:46.080 I saw that video

00:32:46.820 It gave me chills dude

00:32:48.400 It was nuts

00:32:49.760 We had

00:32:50.840 It was funny

00:32:51.340 I lingered for so long

00:32:52.640 Because we

00:32:53.180 He said

00:32:54.800 We rehearsed it beforehand

00:32:55.900 And he was like

00:32:56.580 I'll sing the outro verse

00:32:57.740 He said

00:32:58.720 You've seen the first half

00:32:59.460 Of the outro verse

00:32:59.860 I'll sing the second half

00:33:00.560 I was like perfect

00:33:01.120 So I sang my bit

00:33:02.300 Then went and hid away

00:33:03.560 With the bongo player

00:33:04.400 For a while

00:33:04.920 And then

00:33:05.920 The outro verse came along

00:33:07.200 And I walked back out

00:33:08.400 To the walkway

00:33:09.140 And I was like

00:33:09.720 Alright sweet

00:33:10.200 Here we go

00:33:10.640 And then he started

00:33:11.340 Singing the outro verse

00:33:12.100 And I was like

00:33:12.360 Oh no

00:33:12.940 Now I'm just standing here

00:33:13.980 So

00:33:14.300 Like being an awkward person

00:33:16.280 I was like

00:33:16.540 I'm just standing here

00:33:17.320 In front of 70,000 people

00:33:18.520 Yeah

00:33:18.760 With nothing to do

00:33:19.820 I should have been gone

00:33:20.560 Ages ago

00:33:21.260 Yeah

00:33:21.560 Yeah yeah yeah

00:33:23.700 He was lovely though

00:33:24.860 God that's so cool looking dude

00:33:27.360 It's nice

00:33:28.080 It's the best thing

00:33:29.020 I don't get nervous for that

00:33:30.380 Which is weird

00:33:31.300 Yeah

00:33:31.960 Oh man

00:33:32.700 That

00:33:32.920 Yeah karaoke makes me so sick

00:33:34.960 I could not even imagine

00:33:36.580 Having to sing in front of people

00:33:37.780 Yeah

00:33:38.280 So when did you start to learn

00:33:40.300 That you had singing talent

00:33:41.340 I mean

00:33:41.760 I know that some of this

00:33:42.980 Will be like elementary stuff to you

00:33:44.600 But for some audience

00:33:45.480 That doesn't know you

00:33:46.280 You know

00:33:46.520 So like

00:33:46.880 Of course

00:33:47.100 Yeah

00:33:48.320 When did you start to learn that

00:33:49.460 Because how do you go

00:33:50.080 From being like

00:33:50.780 This sort of like

00:33:52.020 Like

00:33:52.620 Like

00:33:54.120 Not recluse

00:33:55.300 But sort of this like

00:33:56.380 Quiet kid

00:33:57.180 Shadow lurkering

00:33:58.700 Yeah yeah yeah

00:33:59.520 Of course

00:33:59.900 Good guy

00:34:01.360 Yeah

00:34:02.440 Yeah

00:34:02.900 We don't want to make it sound like a villain

00:34:05.340 No

00:34:05.840 But sort of this

00:34:06.680 This guy who's this patient person

00:34:09.980 How do you go from that

00:34:11.540 To like

00:34:12.080 Being able to like

00:34:12.960 Express yourself

00:34:14.000 Because dude

00:34:14.340 Yeah when you start

00:34:15.140 It's like

00:34:15.660 There's a lot of levels

00:34:17.180 To what you do

00:34:17.640 Like sometimes I feel like

00:34:18.840 There's like some Mac Miller

00:34:20.020 Sometimes I feel like

00:34:20.800 There's like

00:34:21.160 This Dr. Seuss

00:34:22.940 Of like Irish funerals

00:34:24.600 Going on

00:34:25.020 There's so many

00:34:26.240 And then sometimes

00:34:27.520 It's just like this

00:34:28.500 You almost feel like

00:34:29.700 You're at a

00:34:30.280 Opera or something

00:34:31.720 Right right right

00:34:32.240 You know

00:34:32.540 Yeah

00:34:33.000 So it's really impressive

00:34:34.600 Nice one man

00:34:35.360 Thank you

00:34:35.780 Yeah I try and do a few different things

00:34:37.120 But I remember my sister played piano

00:34:39.140 And she still does

00:34:40.000 When we were kids

00:34:40.720 And classic thing

00:34:41.840 I would just sing in the back of the car

00:34:42.880 And I remember my mom

00:34:43.640 I was just loud

00:34:44.420 You know I'm still loud

00:34:45.320 And I

00:34:45.920 So yeah I just started figuring out

00:34:47.700 I played soccer quite seriously

00:34:49.280 When I was a kid

00:34:49.920 Seriously in my head

00:34:51.080 And

00:34:51.420 And so

00:34:52.960 Music was like a secondary thing

00:34:54.580 So I never worried about playing to people

00:34:56.240 Because I was

00:34:56.860 I was thinking about playing football

00:34:58.080 So

00:34:58.460 I

00:34:59.220 I would always

00:35:00.740 It came quite easy to me

00:35:02.260 To play to people

00:35:02.920 Because I didn't see it as being that important

00:35:05.240 The first few times

00:35:06.040 You know

00:35:06.320 And

00:35:06.980 And so yeah

00:35:08.080 It just gradually became a thing

00:35:09.220 I started realizing

00:35:10.000 I wanted to write music

00:35:10.980 I'd go into town

00:35:11.980 And like do open mics and stuff

00:35:13.200 Oh you would?

00:35:13.800 Yeah

00:35:13.980 Like Dublin's so supportive

00:35:15.060 That's what I mean

00:35:15.640 It's like

00:35:16.080 I know I always talk about notions

00:35:17.580 And all that kind of stuff

00:35:18.320 But it's just like

00:35:19.120 It's a nice place

00:35:20.740 I was 15, 16

00:35:21.820 Playing in these pubs

00:35:22.700 And

00:35:23.220 People would do anything to help you

00:35:25.180 You know

00:35:25.380 I don't know what it's like

00:35:25.980 In the States

00:35:26.380 Oh yeah yeah

00:35:27.160 I know that Iris will do anything

00:35:28.320 Yeah

00:35:28.860 And they just

00:35:29.640 If they see some potential in you

00:35:30.920 They'll just kind of say

00:35:31.540 I know this person

00:35:32.120 I know that person

00:35:32.620 Be careful with this

00:35:33.660 And da da da

00:35:34.200 And loads of advice

00:35:35.320 And all that kind of thing

00:35:36.220 So yeah

00:35:37.540 Just gradually

00:35:38.120 I mean

00:35:38.560 Like I'm 32 now

00:35:39.960 So

00:35:40.240 Like

00:35:41.020 I've been doing this since I was 19

00:35:43.740 I guess

00:35:44.180 You know what I mean

00:35:44.700 So it's a long road

00:35:45.780 And I know

00:35:46.200 We were talking about the Red Clay Strays

00:35:47.500 And how they put time in

00:35:48.440 And

00:35:48.580 I think if you get to a certain level

00:35:50.380 There's very few people

00:35:51.860 Who haven't had that journey

00:35:52.800 Do you know what I mean

00:35:53.400 I know you had Luke Combs on here

00:35:54.760 I know everybody's got their journey in music

00:35:56.280 But like there's so much time you spend

00:35:57.880 Knowing you're good

00:35:58.940 And being frustrated

00:36:00.000 That you don't have a career

00:36:00.940 You know what I mean

00:36:01.480 So I think

00:36:02.240 You just have to be patient

00:36:03.980 It's so

00:36:04.580 Like it's so silly to me

00:36:05.860 It's so kind of

00:36:06.600 Arbitry in a way

00:36:07.820 Because it's like

00:36:08.620 It's this thing where

00:36:10.680 You're

00:36:11.620 Like you said

00:36:12.620 Like you're lurking in the shadows

00:36:13.800 Knowing you're good

00:36:15.020 And

00:36:15.940 But no one's paying attention

00:36:17.160 And then out of nowhere

00:36:18.060 People decide you're just really good

00:36:19.560 And it's like

00:36:20.000 I knew that before

00:36:20.800 Yeah

00:36:21.340 But it just takes time

00:36:22.260 Yeah it is

00:36:23.580 That is such a fine line

00:36:25.040 There's a

00:36:25.600 Like what's it like for you

00:36:27.080 You know what I mean

00:36:27.820 Like when

00:36:28.200 You knew you had this potential

00:36:29.620 But

00:36:30.080 Yeah I thought that I was

00:36:31.580 Funny

00:36:32.160 I think

00:36:32.620 I was sitting on a porch one day

00:36:34.000 At school

00:36:34.580 In college

00:36:35.800 And this kid's like

00:36:36.500 You should do stand up comedy man

00:36:37.920 And I was like

00:36:38.360 Fuck you dude

00:36:39.100 You're an idiot

00:36:39.640 Right

00:36:39.980 And the guy was an idiot

00:36:41.180 So I was right

00:36:42.680 Yeah

00:36:43.120 But

00:36:43.460 But yeah

00:36:45.360 Eventually I started doing comedy

00:36:47.400 You know

00:36:47.920 But was it that classic thing

00:36:49.600 But yeah there were times

00:36:50.120 You start to do good

00:36:50.960 Yeah

00:36:51.200 And then you're like

00:36:51.620 Why

00:36:52.200 Why

00:36:53.080 You know

00:36:54.300 You see other people

00:36:54.960 Like I'm doing

00:36:55.560 But I think a lot of it's just time

00:36:57.760 And it's like

00:36:58.600 Yeah like weathering that storm

00:37:01.380 And then

00:37:03.120 Weathering that storm

00:37:04.620 Of like other people's careers

00:37:06.060 Have been going

00:37:06.640 They have to have

00:37:07.720 Their successes

00:37:08.920 And so

00:37:10.020 That's just the way

00:37:10.920 That time works

00:37:12.000 Do you find that hard sometimes

00:37:13.480 When you see people like

00:37:14.460 Having massive moments

00:37:15.740 Yeah

00:37:17.080 I know you are too

00:37:18.000 So it's probably made easier

00:37:18.900 By that

00:37:19.240 Of course

00:37:19.560 Definitely did earlier on

00:37:21.120 You know

00:37:21.560 And then

00:37:21.960 Yeah now it's like

00:37:23.740 You know

00:37:24.020 We're able to sell out a club

00:37:25.740 And able to sell out some spots

00:37:26.800 So once you can kind of do that

00:37:27.840 You start to feel a little bit more

00:37:28.960 Like in control

00:37:30.800 Like at least

00:37:31.720 Okay at least I'm doing my job

00:37:33.520 Yeah

00:37:33.780 I think that's part of it too

00:37:34.940 It's like

00:37:35.380 Hell it's hard to admit to somebody

00:37:37.340 That you're a comedian

00:37:38.320 Like

00:37:38.700 You know

00:37:39.660 Because everybody's funny

00:37:40.760 And everybody has good stories

00:37:41.980 Especially being from Louisiana

00:37:43.260 So

00:37:44.460 Like they don't even have

00:37:46.400 Any comedy clubs in Louisiana

00:37:47.700 Because

00:37:48.820 People are so funny

00:37:50.940 Just talking to them

00:37:51.820 Yeah

00:37:52.220 Yeah

00:37:52.420 So it's like

00:37:53.120 I'm not gonna go pay $7

00:37:54.780 And go in that

00:37:55.920 You know

00:37:56.600 Booze hole

00:37:57.220 When my friend is funnier than that

00:37:58.380 Yeah

00:37:58.460 Yeah

00:37:58.860 Yeah

00:37:59.060 Well fucking

00:38:00.780 Randy out here

00:38:02.120 Did you spend a lot of time

00:38:03.820 Sort of doing sets and clubs

00:38:05.220 With just

00:38:05.600 Oh yeah

00:38:06.240 Tough ones

00:38:06.660 Yeah for years man

00:38:07.960 Yeah I would drive and do all the sets

00:38:10.100 Yeah I think there was a part of me

00:38:11.520 That wanted to be good at it

00:38:13.000 Of course

00:38:13.600 And then I think

00:38:14.820 After a while

00:38:15.860 I think

00:38:16.280 The art chooses you

00:38:17.780 Because

00:38:18.200 I didn't end up getting married

00:38:19.780 I didn't have a child

00:38:20.820 So those things

00:38:22.280 Didn't kind of like

00:38:23.100 Start to take up my time

00:38:24.520 So I was still available for it

00:38:26.480 You know

00:38:26.760 Of course

00:38:27.020 Yeah yeah

00:38:27.420 So yeah

00:38:28.320 I think there's

00:38:28.920 There's a moment kind of

00:38:30.120 Where some of the art chooses you

00:38:31.720 I keep thinking about you

00:38:33.280 Spitting on that girl's head

00:38:34.360 Oh

00:38:34.940 Terrible times

00:38:36.340 God if she only knew

00:38:38.360 And I tried to I think

00:38:39.220 Draw a heart when I spit or something

00:38:40.940 Lovely

00:38:41.200 I tried to

00:38:41.580 Yeah yeah yeah

00:38:42.260 I tried to save it

00:38:43.060 I tried to do something

00:38:44.380 You know I remember just doing like that

00:38:45.760 A little or something

00:38:46.380 I

00:38:46.640 I don't know

00:38:48.160 I wanted to be kind of artistic

00:38:49.620 I don't fucking

00:38:50.380 But it was

00:38:51.960 That was the only way

00:38:53.180 I could express myself

00:38:54.500 I know what you mean about the saliva

00:38:56.440 I find it even when I'm doing this

00:38:58.080 You know

00:38:58.720 So I don't know man

00:39:05.020 Yeah what were we talking about

00:39:08.060 But it's been good

00:39:08.600 I've loved being here honestly

00:39:10.060 Have you?

00:39:10.580 It's a good place making music

00:39:11.780 Yeah it's a good place

00:39:12.560 Definitely

00:39:13.100 I think

00:39:13.940 Yeah and I think if you don't

00:39:15.020 You have to kind of like

00:39:16.180 Put yourself out there some here

00:39:17.740 And if you like to do

00:39:18.660 Kind of your own thing

00:39:19.640 I mean your music does feel very

00:39:21.360 Important to you

00:39:24.840 Like you said right

00:39:25.680 Like the stuff you're

00:39:26.820 You know

00:39:27.480 You're not trying to go for like

00:39:28.980 It doesn't seem like

00:39:30.080 Some pop thing

00:39:32.340 Or trying to like

00:39:32.960 Read a bunch of other people's

00:39:34.100 Songs that they've written

00:39:35.800 No

00:39:36.140 It seems like you're trying to make

00:39:37.580 Your

00:39:37.920 Your voice

00:39:39.080 Yeah if it was like someone else

00:39:40.260 You know

00:39:40.840 There'd be no point

00:39:41.580 There's people I'm a fan of

00:39:42.960 And there's people I'm inspired by

00:39:43.920 But you've got to take a mix of all that

00:39:45.320 And make your own thing

00:39:46.020 Yeah otherwise it's boring

00:39:47.000 Because that's a big part of the culture here

00:39:48.420 Is like all the big songwriter groups

00:39:50.060 Yeah

00:39:50.480 And then they service the musicians

00:39:51.940 You know

00:39:52.460 Totally

00:39:52.860 And you've got to be careful

00:39:53.700 Because you find

00:39:54.380 Like I've written songs

00:39:56.060 Where I'm like

00:39:56.420 Oh no that's too like this person

00:39:57.540 There's no place in the world for that

00:39:59.500 I think it's funny

00:40:00.100 Sometimes

00:40:00.580 You'll have people kind of

00:40:02.500 See I remember we were talking about

00:40:04.460 Lewis Capaldi the other day

00:40:05.320 I remember for

00:40:06.380 For a long time

00:40:08.960 I was kind of pushing to do

00:40:10.340 Just piano and vocal

00:40:11.540 And it never really worked out

00:40:13.740 And then

00:40:14.180 He had his massive song

00:40:16.440 I was getting kind of used to being

00:40:19.000 Someone you loved

00:40:19.640 And then

00:40:20.320 I remember someone

00:40:21.840 In my team that I worked with

00:40:23.060 Was kind of like

00:40:23.480 Oh I was thinking like

00:40:24.020 Maybe piano and vocal

00:40:24.760 And I was like

00:40:25.160 This is so obvious

00:40:26.000 Like you did that already

00:40:27.560 So like

00:40:28.020 It's so senseless

00:40:29.340 That I would go and do that

00:40:30.160 Unless it felt right

00:40:30.980 But this idea of just like

00:40:32.180 Copying something else

00:40:33.260 That did well

00:40:33.820 Is weird

00:40:34.880 And we'll never

00:40:35.780 Get the right results

00:40:36.860 I think

00:40:37.460 Yeah I think you see

00:40:38.960 A lot of that with music

00:40:40.200 You see like

00:40:40.920 Someone

00:40:41.320 Breaks out of the pack

00:40:44.320 Yeah

00:40:44.680 And then there's a lot

00:40:45.720 Of other people

00:40:46.120 That start to sound

00:40:46.740 Just like them

00:40:47.480 Oh totally

00:40:47.980 You see it now

00:40:48.560 Like say Noah Cannon

00:40:49.560 And Zach Bryan

00:40:49.980 Like having these huge moments

00:40:51.020 I'm inspired by it

00:40:52.740 But I have to make sure

00:40:53.720 I do my own thing

00:40:54.420 And don't sort of

00:40:55.460 What's the word

00:40:55.900 Try and replicate it I guess

00:40:57.040 Yeah

00:40:57.240 Because you'll just end up

00:40:58.420 On your ass

00:40:58.900 Yeah I think

00:40:59.900 Yeah because then you're just like

00:41:01.420 Oh he sounds like this person

00:41:03.100 Totally

00:41:03.340 And the reason it works for them

00:41:04.180 Is because

00:41:04.460 They are them

00:41:05.960 And they're uniquely them

00:41:07.220 And people are drawn to that

00:41:08.520 Definitely

00:41:08.800 I think even like

00:41:09.660 The attitude that's contained

00:41:12.360 Within your music

00:41:12.940 Like you see Zach Bryan

00:41:13.720 Like the recordings

00:41:14.480 And everything

00:41:15.020 They're quite

00:41:15.620 What's the word

00:41:16.720 Like they're so

00:41:17.460 Rough and ready

00:41:18.460 But people are drawn to that

00:41:19.660 Everything's so perfect nowadays

00:41:21.120 So people just like that

00:41:22.140 If he's literally just

00:41:23.220 Pressing record

00:41:24.000 And that take is that take

00:41:25.740 I think it's incredible

00:41:26.500 Again

00:41:27.160 I heard Luke Combs

00:41:28.140 Kind of say

00:41:28.460 They'll go in and do five songs

00:41:29.680 In an evening

00:41:30.200 I think that's beautiful

00:41:32.220 I've been in situations now

00:41:34.520 Where things can get

00:41:36.340 Quite fragmented

00:41:37.140 And you're kind of like

00:41:37.840 Okay we'll do piano

00:41:39.280 Then do vocal

00:41:40.000 It's all quite polished

00:41:41.200 And put together

00:41:41.720 So I want to get back

00:41:42.580 To that side of things

00:41:43.320 Definitely

00:41:43.740 Yeah

00:41:44.220 Yeah that feels like a challenge

00:41:46.560 I think that's a challenge

00:41:47.440 In any art

00:41:48.160 You know

00:41:48.680 How do I stay me

00:41:50.240 Yeah

00:41:50.980 And then how do I stay me

00:41:52.780 As I change

00:41:53.780 Mmhmm

00:41:54.380 And then

00:41:56.200 Am I

00:41:57.740 Is it okay to still be me

00:41:59.720 This changed me

00:42:02.620 At the risk of

00:42:04.540 That my

00:42:04.980 The people who are

00:42:06.700 Paying attention to me

00:42:07.500 Won't

00:42:07.980 Will understand

00:42:09.320 Totally

00:42:09.800 And I

00:42:10.180 Like I get to hide

00:42:11.260 Behind the music

00:42:11.780 Like in your line of work

00:42:12.740 I think

00:42:13.200 You are your brand

00:42:15.200 Right

00:42:15.480 So like changing

00:42:16.440 Has got to be

00:42:16.840 A whole different thing

00:42:17.640 Do you know what I mean

00:42:18.120 Like I can change my music

00:42:19.080 All I like

00:42:19.600 And I'll still be me

00:42:20.640 Underneath it

00:42:21.200 But like I find

00:42:22.140 For comedians

00:42:22.760 Or people that do

00:42:24.300 What you do

00:42:24.680 It's tough

00:42:25.160 Because

00:42:25.560 Because your name

00:42:27.220 Is the whole thing

00:42:28.120 Right

00:42:28.380 You know

00:42:28.880 Like if you change

00:42:29.880 As a person

00:42:30.420 People will kind of

00:42:31.640 Could criticize

00:42:32.300 Could enjoy it

00:42:32.900 Whatever

00:42:33.100 Yeah

00:42:33.540 Or like

00:42:33.880 But to not even evolve

00:42:35.280 I think

00:42:35.820 Right

00:42:36.220 Like I think

00:42:36.760 That's kind of

00:42:37.340 The thing that I'm

00:42:37.880 Thinking of

00:42:38.440 Is like

00:42:39.020 Like a guy told me

00:42:40.280 One time

00:42:41.140 He's a manager

00:42:42.980 He's worked at

00:42:44.460 A fancy management company

00:42:46.360 In Los Angeles

00:42:47.060 And he said

00:42:48.420 You know

00:42:48.880 Your audience will

00:42:49.460 Grow up with you

00:42:50.120 So you have to

00:42:51.660 Grow up as well

00:42:52.680 Mmhmm

00:42:53.020 Or it can get

00:42:54.200 Kind of stale

00:42:55.180 You know

00:42:56.060 And I thought

00:42:57.040 That was just interesting

00:42:58.040 You know

00:42:58.900 It's just like

00:42:59.560 Yeah that's kind of true

00:43:00.920 Like if I

00:43:01.820 You know

00:43:03.240 Be afraid to change

00:43:04.660 Or don't grow up

00:43:05.480 Or you know

00:43:05.980 Then

00:43:07.060 They're gonna

00:43:08.000 Grow up past me

00:43:09.560 Of course

00:43:10.060 Yeah I got that

00:43:10.900 With music too

00:43:11.560 You know

00:43:12.020 Oh yeah

00:43:12.460 You try and like

00:43:13.280 You try and sort of

00:43:14.940 Think about

00:43:15.420 What age you were

00:43:16.100 When people first

00:43:16.680 Started listening to your music

00:43:17.460 And then change with that

00:43:18.440 50 Cent's a good example

00:43:19.520 He always

00:43:19.880 He stopped making music

00:43:21.260 Sometimes

00:43:21.760 Because he was just like

00:43:22.560 It's not relevant

00:43:23.680 To those people anymore

00:43:24.580 It's interesting

00:43:25.280 Yeah I'm trying to think

00:43:27.940 Yeah there's some like

00:43:28.640 There's a little bit of

00:43:29.480 Zach Brian

00:43:29.940 When I hear you

00:43:30.300 There's a little bit

00:43:30.620 Of James Blake

00:43:31.260 But it's you

00:43:32.180 It definitely felt like

00:43:34.420 This guy at the shipyard

00:43:37.560 Who's just gonna

00:43:38.280 Fucking show you

00:43:39.540 What's going on

00:43:40.740 Yeah I hope so

00:43:41.840 You know

00:43:42.400 I hope so

00:43:42.960 My voice was blown out too

00:43:44.280 And his girl

00:43:44.300 She better

00:43:45.080 Pay attention

00:43:46.180 Yeah

00:43:46.760 It's all like that

00:43:48.080 Yeah it's stories

00:43:49.180 And if he goes out

00:43:50.140 On the boat with you

00:43:51.000 To fish or crab

00:43:52.500 Or whatever

00:43:52.920 He's gonna be

00:43:54.100 A little loud sometimes

00:43:55.300 Yeah yeah yeah

00:43:56.160 I got told

00:43:56.940 I even talk too loud

00:43:57.960 A speech therapist

00:43:58.640 Recently was like

00:43:59.260 You need to relax

00:43:59.980 Really

00:44:00.340 Constantly yeah

00:44:01.300 Yeah they said like

00:44:02.540 Cause I have trouble

00:44:03.120 With my voice sometimes

00:44:03.900 Even last night

00:44:04.760 My voice kind of went

00:44:05.580 About halfway through

00:44:06.420 And I don't know

00:44:08.400 How to not go

00:44:09.540 Full beans constantly

00:44:10.560 Yeah

00:44:11.120 You know

00:44:11.680 You must get so many

00:44:13.440 Dude every girl I know

00:44:15.620 My brother's wife

00:44:16.740 My ex-girlfriend

00:44:17.980 Every woman

00:44:19.340 Is looking for you

00:44:22.040 So I don't know

00:44:24.880 I'm sure you have

00:44:25.900 How many ring cameras

00:44:26.820 Do you have

00:44:27.400 Yeah we got the cameras

00:44:29.060 In the house at home

00:44:29.780 Yeah yeah yeah

00:44:30.920 Nah it's just

00:44:32.160 People can connect

00:44:33.400 To real feelings

00:44:35.020 Yeah the feelings

00:44:35.600 I saw you

00:44:36.820 You were nodding along

00:44:37.640 Oh I was

00:44:38.440 I had one song

00:44:39.480 That had rhythm in it

00:44:41.080 Last night

00:44:41.780 Right

00:44:42.260 Oh no there was

00:44:42.880 A couple moments

00:44:43.600 You hit some

00:44:44.120 Yeah I mean well

00:44:45.320 Yeah when it's not

00:44:46.520 Like the whole band

00:44:47.300 And it's just you

00:44:47.860 That's a lot of pressure

00:44:48.620 I mean you had

00:44:49.040 The boys with you there

00:44:50.400 The poet Joshua

00:44:52.100 Yeah

00:44:52.640 He was great

00:44:53.380 Dude he was at my show

00:44:54.320 In Halifax

00:44:54.900 I'll tell you that

00:44:55.460 Was he at the show

00:44:56.260 Yeah

00:44:56.780 Because he said he bumped

00:44:57.440 Into you on the flight

00:44:57.980 Yeah I didn't know

00:44:58.380 He was at the show

00:44:58.820 Yeah he came to the show

00:44:59.620 In Halifax in the morning

00:45:00.540 I'm on the plane

00:45:01.240 Brilliant

00:45:01.660 He said hey

00:45:02.360 I was at your show

00:45:02.720 Last night

00:45:03.000 I was like

00:45:03.280 Oh you're heading to the US

00:45:04.420 He's like yeah

00:45:04.860 I'm going to play

00:45:05.240 With Dermot Kennedy

00:45:06.260 I said oh I'm actually

00:45:07.100 Going to his show

00:45:07.980 No way

00:45:08.360 And so I'll see you

00:45:09.500 There tomorrow

00:45:10.040 Yeah he's a nice guy

00:45:10.860 He was so much more

00:45:11.760 Confident than me

00:45:12.540 He was funny

00:45:14.560 Yeah

00:45:15.140 He's 22 as well

00:45:16.640 So it's just like

00:45:17.440 I don't know

00:45:18.620 I think

00:45:19.620 I think that's a difficult gig

00:45:21.540 When it's just spoken

00:45:22.420 You know the music

00:45:23.160 You can hide behind it

00:45:24.040 And stuff

00:45:24.340 But when it's just

00:45:24.880 Spoken word

00:45:25.380 That's not easy

00:45:25.960 Yeah

00:45:26.400 But it added this element

00:45:28.140 Of like

00:45:28.600 Because last night

00:45:30.040 So just for the listeners

00:45:30.860 So there was

00:45:31.800 Dermot

00:45:32.800 There was Gabe Simon

00:45:34.200 Accompanying him on guitar

00:45:35.600 And mandolin

00:45:36.200 And some different instruments

00:45:37.100 Yeah

00:45:37.280 And there was Joshua De Schuder

00:45:42.920 And he's a poet

00:45:44.440 And he was like

00:45:45.500 Kind of reading lines

00:45:47.600 At certain points

00:45:48.240 Yeah

00:45:48.760 And he had sort of

00:45:49.700 Tailored his poetry

00:45:50.560 To fit around the songs

00:45:51.720 And stuff

00:45:51.920 It was just cool

00:45:52.520 I don't know

00:45:52.940 Yeah it was cool

00:45:53.600 I know when I was that age

00:45:54.740 I kind of was dying

00:45:55.460 To do things like that

00:45:56.480 So I was excited

00:45:57.080 To work with him

00:45:57.620 Yeah

00:45:57.800 Yeah I thought that was

00:45:58.580 Super cool

00:45:58.980 How did you find him?

00:46:00.760 Instagram

00:46:01.120 I saw him doing a poem

00:46:02.080 He had a really cool poem

00:46:03.040 I couldn't even point it out now

00:46:04.980 But he had a really cool poem

00:46:05.880 About two people

00:46:07.580 Who every night

00:46:08.540 In a cemetery

00:46:09.080 They come up out of their graves

00:46:10.020 And one guy was really rich

00:46:11.060 And one guy was really poor

00:46:12.040 And just

00:46:13.140 It's this beautiful poem

00:46:14.360 About like

00:46:14.880 Not forgetting

00:46:16.420 What's important in life

00:46:17.280 So I thought it was cool

00:46:18.160 I think there's a lot of

00:46:18.900 I think there's a lot of

00:46:20.140 Bullshit poetry on Instagram

00:46:21.160 And I think he's not that

00:46:22.180 So that's why

00:46:22.760 Yeah

00:46:23.040 Yeah I like

00:46:24.240 Even just having a younger person

00:46:25.580 It like added this element

00:46:26.760 Of like

00:46:27.280 Nervous energy

00:46:29.300 And approach to the world

00:46:30.620 Which was like

00:46:31.280 Such a dichotomy

00:46:32.700 To kind of

00:46:33.100 Some of your music

00:46:33.820 You know

00:46:34.080 Some of it's like

00:46:34.760 You know

00:46:35.660 It's more like

00:46:36.360 I don't think a young person

00:46:38.820 Could even write something

00:46:39.780 You know

00:46:40.060 You know

00:46:41.120 I think you have to have

00:46:41.700 Some experience

00:46:42.480 You know

00:46:42.940 I definitely think about that now

00:46:44.360 Even like

00:46:45.120 Having any degree of success

00:46:46.220 I feel better

00:46:47.040 Equipped now

00:46:48.140 You know

00:46:48.460 I used to be annoyed

00:46:49.600 That I wasn't getting gigs

00:46:50.640 And stuff

00:46:51.000 But

00:46:51.340 I guess I'm glad

00:46:53.100 It happened the way it did

00:46:54.140 Because now

00:46:54.580 I

00:46:54.900 Even as a person

00:46:56.600 Just in society

00:46:57.360 I try not to

00:46:58.280 You know

00:46:58.660 You learn how to not

00:47:00.220 Take shit from people

00:47:00.980 And you learn who you are

00:47:02.040 In the world a little bit

00:47:02.840 I'd be scared

00:47:03.320 If I was 22

00:47:04.120 Doing this

00:47:04.600 Do you know what I mean

00:47:05.080 Oh yeah

00:47:06.000 Having like a lot of success

00:47:07.400 At that age

00:47:08.320 Any kind of traction

00:47:09.240 Yeah

00:47:09.460 And someone was

00:47:10.320 Like I feel like

00:47:11.560 I'm easily led

00:47:12.280 Or gullible

00:47:12.900 Even at this age

00:47:13.840 So I don't know

00:47:14.300 What I'd be like

00:47:14.840 If I was younger

00:47:15.360 Yeah

00:47:15.600 Yeah

00:47:15.900 Yeah

00:47:16.820 It seems kind of

00:47:17.360 Risqué out there

00:47:18.300 I want to think

00:47:19.720 More about Ireland

00:47:20.480 Dude

00:47:20.720 Do they have

00:47:21.620 Oh somebody said

00:47:22.300 The Irish started

00:47:23.340 Halloween

00:47:23.760 Is that true

00:47:24.380 Sauna

00:47:25.500 Yeah I think so

00:47:26.320 Yeah yeah yeah

00:47:27.160 Because what is it

00:47:27.880 It sort of translates

00:47:28.620 Like the

00:47:29.160 The night of the

00:47:30.360 Lost souls

00:47:31.160 Or something like that

00:47:32.060 I'm not sure

00:47:32.540 But yeah Irish people

00:47:33.260 Ireland's very

00:47:34.380 Pagan

00:47:35.260 And sort of

00:47:36.320 A lot of things like that

00:47:37.540 The dead are very important

00:47:38.620 The dead are very important

00:47:39.560 You know the way

00:47:39.880 Like Coco

00:47:40.360 Yes

00:47:41.740 In those movies

00:47:43.180 That's the Mexican dead

00:47:44.360 Right

00:47:44.620 Yeah it feels like

00:47:45.980 There's similarities

00:47:46.480 In that sense

00:47:47.140 There's like

00:47:47.620 The Celtic Sound Festival

00:47:49.440 Yeah

00:47:49.760 Wow

00:47:50.700 My

00:47:51.580 Actually I was talking

00:47:53.400 About it last night

00:47:53.900 At the gig

00:47:54.180 The island my auntie lives on

00:47:55.540 Halloween's really important

00:47:57.020 And it's all the lost souls

00:47:58.240 And stuff

00:47:58.520 What is it called

00:47:59.560 Inishmore

00:48:00.220 Inishmore

00:48:00.900 I thought her name's Deirdre

00:48:02.080 I thought you were about

00:48:02.600 To say her name

00:48:03.060 I was like

00:48:03.360 You know my auntie Deirdre

00:48:04.280 Oh yeah

00:48:04.880 Yeah

00:48:06.880 But they have these traditions

00:48:09.000 You know where

00:48:09.760 There's very few people

00:48:11.160 Live on the island

00:48:11.740 It's like

00:48:12.500 I'd be bullshit

00:48:14.000 Maybe a few hundred people

00:48:15.340 Kind of thing

00:48:15.760 And there's this tradition

00:48:19.080 Where someone

00:48:19.980 Someone you know

00:48:21.160 Will knock on your door

00:48:22.100 And they're kind of allowed

00:48:23.620 Walk around your house

00:48:25.140 In silence

00:48:25.720 And open drawers

00:48:26.580 And close drawers

00:48:27.300 And then leave

00:48:29.240 And then later on

00:48:30.100 Everyone's in the pub

00:48:30.780 And you don't know

00:48:31.940 Who is in your house

00:48:32.600 So it's this kind of

00:48:33.340 There's all these

00:48:33.980 Creepy traditions

00:48:34.680 Yeah

00:48:35.000 Ireland started Halloween

00:48:36.200 Yeah

00:48:36.620 Oh that's guessing

00:48:37.840 Yeah Halloween was invented

00:48:38.940 In Ireland

00:48:39.380 The roots of Halloween

00:48:40.160 Can be traced back

00:48:40.960 2000 years

00:48:41.840 To the Celtic Samhain

00:48:43.460 Samhain

00:48:44.300 Samhain

00:48:44.880 Yeah I think those things

00:48:45.700 Are important in Ireland

00:48:46.460 Like ghosts

00:48:47.380 And all that kind of thing

00:48:48.200 Do you believe in ghosts

00:48:48.820 Yeah

00:48:49.100 Yeah for sure

00:48:50.680 You must right

00:48:50.900 Yeah from Louisiana

00:48:52.220 We got fucking ghosts

00:48:53.320 Over there

00:48:53.740 Oh true yeah

00:48:54.260 Everybody's yeah

00:48:55.420 Everybody's eating

00:48:56.500 Trout or something

00:48:57.780 You know even

00:48:58.240 You'll hear a ghost

00:48:59.240 Eating something

00:48:59.980 Yeah yeah yeah

00:49:01.040 Like a lot of

00:49:01.760 We have fat ghosts

00:49:02.780 Down there

00:49:03.240 Yeah

00:49:04.160 Like you'll be at the hospital

00:49:05.220 And be like

00:49:05.500 Yeah there's a ghost

00:49:06.320 In the other

00:49:06.980 In the other ward

00:49:08.280 He broke his legs

00:49:12.000 New Orleans is Louisiana right

00:49:13.160 Yeah

00:49:13.660 Ghosts are like

00:49:14.520 That's a ghost town right

00:49:16.060 It's a ghost town

00:49:16.720 Yeah there's ghost tours

00:49:17.340 You can do tours

00:49:18.000 Yeah

00:49:18.440 Yeah and the crazy thing

00:49:19.400 You'll be on a ghost tour

00:49:20.420 Somebody will get murdered

00:49:21.320 Because it's so dangerous there

00:49:22.320 That then another ghost

00:49:23.740 Will show up

00:49:24.340 You're like

00:49:25.500 Oh damn that's Reginald

00:49:26.800 Yeah yeah yeah

00:49:27.920 I knew him

00:49:28.620 Yeah they just

00:49:29.380 He just got here

00:49:30.500 He's fresh

00:49:31.380 Yeah yeah yeah

00:49:32.440 But yeah there's a lot

00:49:33.900 Of like that

00:49:34.540 That sort of energy there

00:49:35.620 There's tons of ghost tours

00:49:36.640 And stuff like that

00:49:37.540 We had a dude

00:49:38.800 In our town

00:49:39.440 Who got

00:49:39.940 Busted by the cops

00:49:42.140 For being a ghost dude

00:49:43.560 We had

00:49:44.020 So

00:49:45.360 This family owned

00:49:47.360 They bought like a Ramada

00:49:48.760 And it was like a

00:49:49.600 What's that?

00:49:50.140 It's a small motel

00:49:51.380 Oh okay

00:49:51.980 And it used to be nice

00:49:54.020 And now it's still nice

00:49:55.080 But it's not like

00:49:55.820 It's not like swanky

00:49:57.620 And they were trying

00:49:59.520 To make it

00:50:00.120 On the

00:50:00.720 Get on the

00:50:02.520 On the ghost tour

00:50:03.880 So when people came to America

00:50:04.880 To go learn about ghosts

00:50:05.980 And everything

00:50:06.320 It would show up on like

00:50:07.520 The ghost like

00:50:08.220 Oh you gotta stop here

00:50:09.460 Right?

00:50:09.840 So they wanted to make it haunted

00:50:10.920 Okay

00:50:11.300 So they did like some like

00:50:13.100 Like low key haunty shit

00:50:15.680 Like the wiring and stuff

00:50:17.220 And like

00:50:17.580 It was getting a little bit

00:50:18.320 Of a buzz

00:50:18.780 But then they're like

00:50:19.900 Oh we're not getting enough

00:50:20.860 People that love ghosts

00:50:22.260 You know?

00:50:23.160 And so

00:50:23.920 They would have

00:50:25.020 Somebody would dress up

00:50:26.100 Upstairs

00:50:26.580 And they had hotel room doors

00:50:29.140 That were across the hallway

00:50:30.100 From each other

00:50:30.680 Yep

00:50:30.860 So they would open a door

00:50:32.360 On each side

00:50:33.040 And when you walked up the stairs

00:50:34.420 The person would just walk across

00:50:36.700 Yeah

00:50:36.980 So you'd see something

00:50:38.160 Like just

00:50:38.720 What was that?

00:50:39.840 You know?

00:50:40.180 Uh huh

00:50:40.440 And um

00:50:41.500 Yeah

00:50:42.140 And so it was getting some heat

00:50:43.400 And people were like

00:50:44.060 Holy shit

00:50:44.540 There's ghosts

00:50:45.200 And people were outside

00:50:46.300 Fucking hanging out

00:50:47.760 And drinking Dr. Pepper

00:50:48.940 And fucking

00:50:49.520 Sometimes even people

00:50:50.540 Because there people

00:50:51.600 Would get real excited

00:50:52.360 And um

00:50:53.260 And then they busted

00:50:54.780 The guy

00:50:54.980 The guy forgot to take off

00:50:56.040 His ghost sheet

00:50:56.760 Or whatever

00:50:57.120 He was driving home

00:50:58.140 It was like

00:50:58.460 Oh no

00:50:58.980 The owner's son

00:50:59.760 And they fucking

00:51:00.260 Oh perfect

00:51:00.860 Busted him dude

00:51:01.940 Idiot

00:51:03.260 Yeah yeah yeah

00:51:04.040 Have you had any like

00:51:05.260 Encounters properly with ghosts?

00:51:06.680 Oh yeah

00:51:07.020 A friend of mine died

00:51:08.020 And like I was laying

00:51:08.840 In his living room

00:51:09.640 Um

00:51:10.300 The day after

00:51:12.020 And I felt him

00:51:12.620 He was right outside

00:51:13.460 Wow no way

00:51:14.380 And I just

00:51:14.940 It felt as if he was right there

00:51:16.280 I mean it just

00:51:16.820 I don't know

00:51:18.300 I never felt like

00:51:19.220 He was standing around me

00:51:20.120 Before or since

00:51:20.900 But it just felt real

00:51:22.620 And I just started like

00:51:23.460 Crying

00:51:23.940 It was like just

00:51:24.400 Super intense you know

00:51:25.620 Wow

00:51:25.960 Um

00:51:26.720 I've never had

00:51:27.240 I believe in all that stuff

00:51:28.240 So strongly

00:51:28.680 But never anything like that

00:51:29.880 Yeah Ireland

00:51:30.600 You guys have like

00:51:31.440 The Giants

00:51:32.240 Causeway

00:51:33.080 Causeway yeah

00:51:33.800 And it's supposedly

00:51:34.440 Made by Giants

00:51:35.560 Yeah

00:51:36.160 Um

00:51:36.620 But there's

00:51:37.020 Did you go there?

00:51:38.160 Um

00:51:38.540 Did we go to Giants Causeway?

00:51:39.500 We didn't

00:51:39.800 No

00:51:40.060 I haven't been there

00:51:41.160 But

00:51:42.520 Is that good?

00:51:43.200 Is that helpful?

00:51:44.620 I don't know

00:51:45.180 But it's like

00:51:46.360 But the story is that

00:51:48.200 Uh

00:51:49.360 There was a giant from there

00:51:50.800 And a giant from Scotland

00:51:51.740 And they weren't getting along

00:51:52.980 Is that right?

00:51:53.640 I feel like you know

00:51:54.460 More about it than I do

00:51:55.280 Yeah I think so

00:51:56.080 Oh Finn McCool

00:51:56.980 That was one of the Giants

00:51:57.940 And there was another giant

00:51:59.760 Legend has it that an Irish giant

00:52:02.160 Named Finn McCool

00:52:03.020 Oh yeah

00:52:03.440 Created

00:52:04.600 And everybody's gonna think

00:52:05.620 This is extremely

00:52:06.600 Gee

00:52:07.940 Exciting

00:52:08.520 Yeah

00:52:08.920 An Irish giant

00:52:10.260 Finn McCool

00:52:11.100 Yeah

00:52:11.460 To cross the Irish Sea

00:52:12.760 And fight his rival

00:52:13.680 The Scottish giant

00:52:14.520 Ben and Donner

00:52:15.240 Yeah

00:52:15.620 So they like

00:52:17.100 And so it just looks like

00:52:18.380 These like

00:52:18.840 There's these big square

00:52:20.360 Um

00:52:22.220 Stones

00:52:22.740 Heading out into the water

00:52:23.680 From each side

00:52:24.340 Yeah

00:52:24.640 Beautiful thing

00:52:25.300 So there's one of them

00:52:26.160 In Scotland as well

00:52:26.980 That's a good question

00:52:28.500 Hopefully there is

00:52:29.500 If not

00:52:29.960 You made it up

00:52:31.000 Yeah

00:52:31.800 Fuck it

00:52:32.460 Um

00:52:35.000 Scotland giant cosmic

00:52:37.380 We'll say that there is

00:52:38.640 Let's keep the lore alive

00:52:40.460 But yeah

00:52:40.980 There's a lot of stuff like that

00:52:42.300 In Ireland

00:52:42.660 Like a lot of like

00:52:43.500 Well there's Lepertons

00:52:44.740 There's mystery

00:52:45.660 You know

00:52:46.800 Ancient things

00:52:47.520 Yeah

00:52:47.980 A lot of that

00:52:48.580 There's a lot of like

00:52:49.580 Uh

00:52:50.180 Lore

00:52:50.760 Definitely

00:52:51.460 Absolutely

00:52:52.220 There's a lot of myths and stuff

00:52:53.420 It's kind of

00:52:53.920 It's romantic in a way

00:52:55.380 Yeah

00:52:55.980 I think like

00:52:56.600 I loved Lord of the Rings

00:52:57.500 The Hobbit and all that stuff

00:52:58.380 Purely because

00:52:59.120 I think being Irish

00:53:00.460 You kind of grow up

00:53:01.240 Loving those things

00:53:02.060 Yeah

00:53:02.360 Definitely

00:53:02.860 I would hate to be without that

00:53:04.220 I think to be honest

00:53:05.220 Like I

00:53:05.620 In my songs

00:53:07.240 Like I had a song last night

00:53:08.680 Called The Killer Was a Coward

00:53:10.080 And it's just

00:53:10.500 Made up story

00:53:11.740 I love it

00:53:12.720 It's just about a king

00:53:13.580 And a person that kind of like

00:53:15.200 Finds his way through this castle

00:53:17.580 And kills him

00:53:18.100 And to me

00:53:18.680 I was just like

00:53:19.220 Fuck it

00:53:19.480 Why not make a song like that

00:53:20.640 Yeah

00:53:21.080 What is the um

00:53:23.640 Songwriting experience

00:53:24.680 Been like in Nashville

00:53:25.560 Has it been inspired by like

00:53:27.040 Any like

00:53:27.580 Country vibes

00:53:28.980 Or is like

00:53:29.500 Is it just

00:53:30.040 This is a place that you feel

00:53:31.720 Is good to write and be

00:53:32.920 I think it's a good place

00:53:34.060 You know

00:53:34.560 Like I think you can't downplay

00:53:36.020 How talented people are

00:53:37.940 Sometimes if I'm writing

00:53:39.260 Somewhere else

00:53:39.800 I can get stuck

00:53:40.480 And kind of

00:53:41.000 Come away with like

00:53:42.060 Half a verse

00:53:42.640 Or half a chorus

00:53:43.340 Or something

00:53:43.620 Whereas here you come away

00:53:44.460 With full songs

00:53:45.140 Because people just

00:53:45.700 Do not stop

00:53:46.360 It's like

00:53:46.760 Gabe who was there last night

00:53:48.100 He just

00:53:48.520 He's relentless

00:53:50.180 You know what I mean

00:53:50.780 He can kind of just

00:53:51.540 He never runs out of ideas

00:53:52.840 So people here are just so talented

00:53:54.460 Plus

00:53:55.380 It's just a better place to write

00:53:56.980 Yeah

00:53:57.180 I don't know

00:53:57.900 I like being here

00:53:59.040 It feels like

00:53:59.820 It's not the be all and end all

00:54:01.960 The music business

00:54:02.700 Even though it's here

00:54:03.720 And it's based here

00:54:04.480 And there's so many people here

00:54:05.300 That are working on music

00:54:06.820 It doesn't feel like

00:54:08.100 People are writing

00:54:09.180 To try and be successful

00:54:10.120 It feels like people are trying

00:54:11.020 To just make music

00:54:11.680 And see what happens

00:54:12.400 Yeah

00:54:13.100 Yeah I agree

00:54:14.100 There's a nice sense of like

00:54:15.040 Just being alive here

00:54:16.100 Definitely

00:54:16.660 And you just take time

00:54:17.660 And people are nice

00:54:18.360 And you'll be playing a song

00:54:20.100 And someone will kind of

00:54:20.840 Invite their friend over

00:54:21.620 And play guitar

00:54:22.200 Whereas in LA

00:54:22.920 They'll be kind of like

00:54:23.540 What's in it for me

00:54:24.200 Why would I do that

00:54:25.020 You know what I mean

00:54:25.740 Whereas here it's just supportive

00:54:27.020 Yeah

00:54:27.660 Yeah

00:54:28.220 Yeah I think that's really true man

00:54:29.960 I mean we went out

00:54:30.760 And saw some great music

00:54:31.560 And then you met up

00:54:32.540 With Zach Brown

00:54:32.920 And you're playing with

00:54:33.520 Yeah I think it's definitely

00:54:34.780 People

00:54:35.240 It's more of a sharing culture here

00:54:38.300 For sure

00:54:40.040 And it

00:54:40.540 Yeah it feels like

00:54:41.320 It's it's own place

00:54:42.300 Outside of just

00:54:43.380 The possibility of

00:54:45.300 Making music

00:54:47.340 Totally

00:54:47.760 I think sometimes

00:54:48.580 When I write

00:54:49.080 I question how

00:54:50.920 Important it is

00:54:51.780 Do you know what I mean

00:54:52.280 That's why

00:54:52.820 Like I've had moments

00:54:54.020 In the past where

00:54:54.880 I struggle with

00:54:56.920 Getting music over the line

00:54:57.980 Because I'm just like

00:54:58.480 Who cares

00:54:58.880 And I completely forget

00:54:59.800 About the fact that

00:55:00.400 People listen to it

00:55:01.140 You know what I mean

00:55:01.600 I kind of

00:55:02.540 I have dismissed that

00:55:04.860 And I don't mean

00:55:05.500 Who cares

00:55:05.940 Like it's always important to me

00:55:06.900 But also

00:55:07.540 In the past

00:55:09.020 I've kind of been like

00:55:09.620 Oh I don't know

00:55:10.380 You get so caught up in it

00:55:11.620 You're just like

00:55:12.100 Does it really matter

00:55:13.300 Really

00:55:13.740 Like and

00:55:14.540 And I don't know

00:55:16.460 Yeah so it's nice

00:55:17.660 To be back at a place

00:55:18.520 Where music is the most

00:55:19.400 Important thing

00:55:20.060 It's lovely

00:55:20.840 I think when you

00:55:21.460 Kind of go chasing a career

00:55:22.380 It can be a tricky thing

00:55:23.660 And it can get in the way

00:55:24.400 Of doing the right stuff

00:55:25.080 Creatively

00:55:25.520 So I'm glad to be here

00:55:26.560 Oh yeah

00:55:27.160 That's a good point

00:55:27.980 Yeah

00:55:28.280 Well do you feel like

00:55:29.060 I mean you've had

00:55:29.420 Such a great career already

00:55:30.480 Do you feel like

00:55:31.720 Yeah does it

00:55:33.880 Does a new

00:55:34.660 Like desire arise in you

00:55:38.280 Once you're already

00:55:39.200 Doing well

00:55:39.980 Kind of

00:55:40.540 Is it like a maintaining desire

00:55:44.320 Is it

00:55:45.060 No I think it's a returning

00:55:46.820 For me it's returning

00:55:48.560 To who I was before

00:55:49.600 Doing any of it

00:55:50.280 You know what I mean

00:55:50.800 Yeah

00:55:51.220 Like you being funny

00:55:52.180 On the porch

00:55:52.600 Because it just makes you feel good

00:55:53.700 Yeah

00:55:54.000 You know what I mean

00:55:54.440 Me playing music at home

00:55:56.560 Just because it's the thing I love

00:55:57.820 I have yet to play a show

00:56:00.440 Where I come away being like

00:56:01.640 Oh wow

00:56:02.120 That was perfect

00:56:02.860 I'm so happy now

00:56:03.640 Do you know what I mean

00:56:04.240 Like when I'm on the tour bus

00:56:05.680 After a gig

00:56:06.260 Like

00:56:06.720 I keep an even keel

00:56:08.620 Constantly

00:56:09.140 I don't come off stage

00:56:10.060 Wired

00:56:10.500 Or I don't come off stage

00:56:12.180 Really sad

00:56:12.780 I just kind of like

00:56:13.420 Yeah it was good

00:56:13.840 And if it was good

00:56:14.500 I'm happy with it

00:56:15.140 And if it was bad

00:56:15.840 It's okay

00:56:16.380 Because I'll do it again tomorrow

00:56:17.320 But

00:56:17.600 Yeah

00:56:19.520 Like

00:56:20.100 Getting back

00:56:21.180 I said that last night

00:56:21.960 Like I want to be able

00:56:22.660 To play music

00:56:23.180 Like I don't care

00:56:24.380 Do you know what I mean

00:56:25.460 I just

00:56:25.720 There's no

00:56:26.380 Thought about like

00:56:28.240 Whether it's good or bad

00:56:29.360 I'm just doing it

00:56:29.940 Because it feels

00:56:30.600 And it's fun

00:56:31.040 Right

00:56:31.260 Yeah

00:56:31.620 Like I blow my voice out

00:56:32.620 Because I'm just trying

00:56:33.380 So fucking hard

00:56:34.100 All the time

00:56:34.680 Do you know what I mean

00:56:35.220 I need to get to a place

00:56:36.520 Where I don't feel

00:56:37.500 Very confident doing it

00:56:38.380 You know what I mean

00:56:38.820 Not at all

00:56:39.680 Doing what

00:56:40.840 Just performing for people

00:56:42.060 Like I

00:56:42.680 I self analyze constantly

00:56:44.400 To the point that

00:56:46.560 It's detrimental

00:56:48.060 But then

00:56:48.600 Like I think

00:56:49.500 A lot of musicians do that

00:56:51.100 Right

00:56:51.280 Like you're hard on yourself

00:56:52.080 You're hard on yourself

00:56:52.660 Yeah you're hard on yourself

00:56:53.180 You want to do your best

00:56:54.280 Totally

00:56:55.120 Yeah

00:56:55.500 That's part

00:56:56.300 That's something I got

00:56:57.060 Out of your stuff too

00:56:58.040 It's like

00:56:58.420 I felt like

00:56:59.980 I felt

00:57:01.200 Like

00:57:03.440 Am I

00:57:04.140 I want to give

00:57:05.120 Everything that I'm capable of

00:57:06.800 While I'm here

00:57:07.640 Yes

00:57:08.200 Yeah of course

00:57:09.340 Yeah it's only last night

00:57:10.540 Like you talked about

00:57:11.500 While I exist even

00:57:12.280 While I exist

00:57:12.960 I want to get everything

00:57:14.580 That is possible

00:57:16.460 Out of me

00:57:18.600 Definitely

00:57:19.120 You know

00:57:19.580 Like having played

00:57:20.620 Sport for such a long time

00:57:22.460 When I was a kid

00:57:23.020 That felt like

00:57:23.740 Such a powerful feeling

00:57:24.700 And I think sometimes

00:57:25.520 I'm trying to get that feeling

00:57:26.540 From music

00:57:27.080 And so

00:57:28.660 Yeah I just

00:57:30.100 I think

00:57:30.740 Like if you play well

00:57:32.340 In a match

00:57:32.780 Or a game

00:57:33.200 Or whatever

00:57:33.540 The reason

00:57:34.020 You feel like

00:57:34.960 You leave nothing out there

00:57:35.960 And I take that

00:57:36.460 Into music I think

00:57:37.240 And I think

00:57:38.820 It's important

00:57:39.720 To not be competitive

00:57:40.580 As a musician

00:57:41.200 But sometimes

00:57:43.020 I can take the gigs

00:57:45.060 In a competitive way

00:57:45.960 You know

00:57:46.500 And just make sure

00:57:47.400 You have nothing left

00:57:48.240 I think that

00:57:48.960 Kind of feels important

00:57:49.860 What happened with sports

00:57:52.660 With football

00:57:53.240 I just wasn't good enough

00:57:54.600 Really?

00:57:55.300 Yeah

00:57:55.500 Damn

00:57:55.800 I was alright

00:57:56.500 Don't get me wrong

00:57:57.040 I wasn't

00:57:57.460 But like

00:57:58.120 I always

00:57:59.180 I'm always conscious of

00:58:00.260 If I was on here

00:58:01.600 Being like

00:58:01.940 Oh yeah

00:58:02.260 I had to decide

00:58:02.880 Between soccer and music

00:58:04.220 There'd be someone in Dublin

00:58:05.340 And be like

00:58:05.780 Arsehole

00:58:06.320 Not true

00:58:06.800 You know what I mean

00:58:07.940 I was alright

00:58:08.540 But I wasn't doing that

00:58:09.480 Yeah yeah

00:58:09.860 No way

00:58:10.360 And that's like

00:58:11.600 The biggest sport over there

00:58:12.680 Oh wait

00:58:13.100 Have you seen that

00:58:13.800 Road bowling?

00:58:15.360 Yes

00:58:15.680 Yeah

00:58:16.440 I don't know what it is

00:58:18.080 I like

00:58:18.580 Really?

00:58:19.280 Well I know what it is

00:58:20.060 I follow them on TikTok

00:58:21.540 Do you really?

00:58:22.500 Have you seen the stone lifting?

00:58:24.280 No I haven't

00:58:25.180 But I know this is people

00:58:26.760 And these are adults

00:58:28.020 Most of them it looks like

00:58:29.380 Yeah

00:58:29.700 And they get up

00:58:31.080 In Shannon Vale

00:58:33.440 Shot it off

00:58:37.500 I'm lovely

00:58:37.980 Shot it off

00:58:39.000 I'm lovely

00:58:39.560 From Tim Young

00:58:40.240 Not a bad effort at all

00:58:42.900 And they throw a ball

00:58:44.880 And this is a real thing that happens

00:58:46.660 This isn't like a prank

00:58:48.820 They throw a ball down a street

00:58:51.680 Uh huh

00:58:52.180 And try to get it as far as they can

00:58:54.840 And they want to get to a certain finish line

00:58:56.820 In the least amount of tries

00:58:58.560 So it's kind of like golf

00:59:00.040 Just with your hand

00:59:01.020 Yeah yeah

00:59:01.660 And it's an iron ball

00:59:02.780 It's a steel ball

00:59:03.740 You should look up the stone lifting

00:59:05.040 The stone lifting seems to be back

00:59:06.500 In a major way

00:59:07.380 Really?

00:59:07.900 Yeah

00:59:08.020 Play one more of those

00:59:08.800 I want to see

00:59:09.420 We gotta

00:59:10.680 Cause here's Huff Wayne

00:59:12.140 Parks here going

00:59:13.040 Turn it up

00:59:14.180 13,800 a side

00:59:16.000 For cancer research

00:59:19.220 Charlie Begand here

00:59:21.120 In Shannon Vale

00:59:22.080 Here we go

00:59:22.780 He runs so far

00:59:23.840 Oh he's playing it like a jet

00:59:27.480 From Wayne Park

00:59:28.640 It's the best thing that I've ever seen

00:59:37.180 How much do they get?

00:59:38.340 They say

00:59:38.600 13,800

00:59:40.040 Nuh uh

00:59:40.900 Really?

00:59:41.240 Oh 13,800 a side

00:59:43.100 And Wayne Parks is on fire

00:59:44.900 Good man Wayne Park

00:59:45.860 Wow

00:59:46.900 Yeah there's certain things are back

00:59:48.880 There's people lifting stones

00:59:50.260 At like 300 kilos and stuff

00:59:51.600 It's probably on TikTok

00:59:53.560 I feel like it's a big thing again

00:59:54.820 Lifting stones

00:59:56.500 Yeah like and they're awkward

00:59:58.280 You know it's like random

00:59:59.340 It's not like those big round ones

01:00:00.780 It's like a proper

01:00:01.480 Like awkward stone in the field

01:00:03.480 There we go

01:00:04.220 Let's see it

01:00:05.280 Yes

01:00:05.940 Holy

01:00:07.060 Holy

01:00:07.080 Holy

01:00:09.020 Holy

01:00:09.580 Holy

01:00:10.300 Holy

01:00:10.380 Holy

01:00:11.580 Holy

01:00:12.300 Holy

01:00:13.500 Holy

01:00:13.540 Holy

01:00:13.580 Holy

01:00:14.240 Holy

01:00:14.300 Holy

01:00:14.800 Holy

01:00:15.300 Holy

01:00:15.580 Holy

01:00:26.500 So strong

01:00:27.140 Oh unbelievable

01:00:28.360 Now how high do you have to get it up

01:00:30.140 I guess you have to get it above your waistline

01:00:31.660 It looks like

01:00:32.020 I feel like it needs to be on your chest

01:00:33.480 Yeah

01:00:33.760 Play one more of those

01:00:34.980 That's unbelievable

01:00:35.640 I mean that is a huge

01:00:36.940 Strong people yeah

01:00:38.100 That was a huge stone

01:00:38.960 Play that top one

01:00:39.760 Just play the top one

01:00:40.880 Oh and this is a more rounded stone

01:00:45.880 Yeah

01:00:49.080 Wow

01:00:49.920 This guy wants to make an omelet

01:00:52.180 And there's his brother who can't lift him

01:00:58.280 Talking shit all the day probably

01:01:00.880 Oh yeah

01:01:02.160 This is crazy

01:01:02.880 This is yeah

01:01:04.040 There's something so Irish about all this I think

01:01:06.380 I don't know what it is

01:01:07.880 I feel like I've seen him

01:01:09.420 Told you

01:01:11.100 Yeah what's that guy's name

01:01:14.240 With the awkward ones

01:01:16.000 Tom Saltman

01:01:18.340 Oh wow

01:01:21.120 Where's that England

01:01:21.860 Strongest Brothers

01:01:24.980 Is a t-shirt

01:01:25.660 Oh they're both strong then

01:01:27.440 It does seem one sided

01:01:28.340 He's doing all the work

01:01:29.240 Yeah but yeah

01:01:30.120 I will say this

01:01:31.120 One of them is doing a lot of the work lads

01:01:34.800 Yeah that road bowling

01:01:37.600 Play one more of those

01:01:38.480 I just couldn't

01:01:39.400 See if you can find

01:01:40.560 Pa

01:01:41.200 I'm trying to think

01:01:42.260 Pa

01:01:42.640 There we go

01:01:45.380 Play that one then

01:01:46.220 Gary Daly there

01:01:47.700 Oh he's an off duty police officer

01:01:49.660 Yeah I never really knew this

01:01:55.360 Well I knew it was a thing

01:01:56.340 But I didn't know people

01:01:57.060 You throw it into a crowd of people

01:01:59.320 That's the crazy part

01:02:00.080 And some of them move

01:02:01.200 And sometimes they don't move

01:02:02.680 Yeah yeah

01:02:03.140 Look at that one

01:02:03.680 3.2 million views

01:02:04.940 Wow

01:02:05.820 50 grand

01:02:06.780 Wow that's a massive amount of money

01:02:09.120 What is that

01:02:09.600 50 pounds yeah

01:02:10.520 50,000 euro

01:02:13.000 Find the one with Pa

01:02:14.220 Somebody right there

01:02:15.200 Who is this lady

01:02:16.240 That's just constantly

01:02:17.040 That's Michelle Smith

01:02:18.460 Oh Pa Flood right there

01:02:19.740 See what she says about him

01:02:21.180 Go up

01:02:22.060 Road Bowls in Ireland

01:02:23.100 So just to let you know

01:02:24.100 That Pa Flood

01:02:24.780 You know you've been

01:02:25.260 Keeping track of Pa Flood

01:02:26.500 Follow this yeah

01:02:27.100 Approximately 20 past 3

01:02:29.220 On Road Bowls in Ireland

01:02:30.600 On Facebook

01:02:31.360 So who's going to win

01:02:34.040 And it's a qualifier

01:02:35.220 To take part in the

01:02:36.300 King and Queen of the Roads

01:02:37.440 Festival 2024

01:02:38.720 Happening in September

01:02:40.040 That's Pa Flood

01:02:40.680 Versus Colm Rafferty

01:02:41.520 Colm Rafferty

01:02:42.100 Huge

01:02:42.400 Big thrower

01:02:43.020 From County Armagh

01:02:44.480 And Pa Flood

01:02:46.020 Needs no introduction here

01:02:47.480 So tune in

01:02:48.380 In about 20 minutes

01:02:50.280 You should have gone to this one

01:02:51.240 I tried

01:02:51.980 Did you really

01:02:52.680 Yeah they were out of

01:02:54.120 They were out of Cork

01:02:55.100 They were

01:02:55.400 Hey guys Michelle here

01:02:56.360 From Road Bowls in Ireland

01:02:57.240 Far away or they were in Europe

01:02:58.380 Somewhere

01:02:59.300 There was one that actually

01:03:00.780 Made a little message to me

01:03:02.240 There you go

01:03:03.120 Shortest bowl

01:03:03.840 In history

01:03:04.640 Shortest bowl in history

01:03:05.620 Let's see it

01:03:05.980 That's Pa Flood right there

01:03:06.920 That's him

01:03:10.160 That's him yeah

01:03:11.700 Oh shit

01:03:13.020 Oh

01:03:13.460 Oh

01:03:14.000 Bollocks Pa

01:03:15.220 That was best work

01:03:16.960 Gosh

01:03:17.580 My Flood huh

01:03:18.700 Just joking Pa

01:03:21.220 That guy will

01:03:21.700 Throw one of those

01:03:23.140 Through my house

01:03:23.860 Oh imagine that though

01:03:27.140 Lord

01:03:27.460 You're just

01:03:28.140 In your shins

01:03:29.500 Oh

01:03:30.100 Yeah that's

01:03:33.120 Michelle Smith

01:03:34.140 Official

01:03:34.620 How much is that

01:03:35.640 50,000 pound

01:03:36.740 For the winner

01:03:37.200 50,000 euro

01:03:38.680 Yeah so I don't know

01:03:39.560 55,000 dollars

01:03:42.020 Probably

01:03:42.340 Wow

01:03:42.800 In and around

01:03:43.280 And look up the rules

01:03:44.720 For road bowling real quick

01:03:45.620 I just want to read it

01:03:46.660 So I can

01:03:47.080 60,573 dollars

01:03:50.160 Wow

01:03:50.620 To throw a damn

01:03:52.600 Ball down a road

01:03:53.660 Yeah

01:03:54.120 Yeah I don't know

01:03:54.680 Where that money comes from

01:03:55.480 Now that's a great question brother

01:03:58.220 That's an IOU

01:03:59.460 Road bowling

01:04:01.340 Is an Irish sport

01:04:02.480 In which competitors

01:04:03.120 Attempt to take

01:04:03.740 The fewest throws

01:04:04.500 To propel a metal ball

01:04:05.560 Along a predetermined course

01:04:06.860 Of country roads

01:04:07.760 The sport originated in Ireland

01:04:09.340 Is mainly played in counties

01:04:10.640 Armagh

01:04:12.300 Armagh

01:04:13.020 Yeah

01:04:13.520 And Cork

01:04:14.180 Road bowling in Ireland

01:04:15.100 Is governed by the

01:04:15.920 Voluntary Irish

01:04:16.800 Road bowling association

01:04:18.220 Armagh won the

01:04:19.860 All Ireland this year

01:04:20.840 In the football

01:04:21.360 Oh they did

01:04:22.000 The bullet or bowl

01:04:24.280 Is a solid iron cannonball

01:04:26.560 Seven inches circumference

01:04:29.280 And it weighs 28 ounces

01:04:30.940 There are two or more players

01:04:32.720 Or teams in a match

01:04:33.720 The one with the fewest shots

01:04:35.280 To the finish line wins

01:04:36.100 If two players or teams

01:04:36.960 Approach the finish line

01:04:38.000 With equal shots

01:04:38.760 The winners decide

01:04:39.740 About which throw

01:04:40.440 Goes farther past

01:04:41.420 The finish line

01:04:41.960 Wow

01:04:42.460 You should have played this

01:04:44.400 God I'd love to

01:04:45.700 You could play this

01:04:46.020 Well you gotta

01:04:47.100 I guess you really have to

01:04:48.620 Have the shoulders for it

01:04:49.600 You know

01:04:49.760 Are you lefty

01:04:50.640 Or righty

01:04:52.520 Yeah I'm pretty much righty

01:04:54.600 Normy

01:04:55.040 I'll do it

01:04:55.880 But you know

01:04:57.720 Remember when I was younger

01:04:58.940 I used to like

01:04:59.500 Try to like

01:05:00.260 Eat with my left hand

01:05:01.440 For like

01:05:01.740 I'd be like

01:05:02.460 I'm gonna change things up

01:05:03.460 I'm gonna be different

01:05:04.180 And I'd do it for like

01:05:04.880 Two bites

01:05:05.400 And I'm like

01:05:05.700 Fuck that

01:05:06.380 Yeah yeah yeah

01:05:07.560 Are you

01:05:07.880 So like fork in your left hand

01:05:09.440 Yeah

01:05:09.920 So you would now eat

01:05:10.680 With a fork in your right hand

01:05:11.640 Oh no

01:05:12.660 Now I go fork in my left hand

01:05:14.140 Yeah

01:05:14.280 Knife in the right hand

01:05:15.120 Yeah yeah yeah

01:05:15.620 But every now and then

01:05:16.180 I'd try to change it up

01:05:17.100 Yeah yeah

01:05:17.520 I remember at home

01:05:18.900 If you were lefty

01:05:20.120 This probably happened here too

01:05:21.060 If you were writing

01:05:21.720 With your left hand

01:05:22.280 They would slap you

01:05:23.000 And put the pen

01:05:24.440 In your right hand

01:05:24.880 I remember my dad

01:05:25.620 My dad's lefty too

01:05:27.180 And he

01:05:27.640 They would make him write

01:05:29.220 With his right hand

01:05:29.760 When he was younger

01:05:30.180 Yeah

01:05:30.360 Why they don't like it over there

01:05:31.280 No

01:05:32.040 Yeah I mean it's

01:05:33.140 Not to stay on Google

01:05:34.080 The whole time

01:05:34.500 But I bet it's like

01:05:35.240 An old Irish thing

01:05:35.980 There was some weirdness

01:05:36.800 About being a lefty

01:05:37.480 Yeah

01:05:37.660 Wow

01:05:38.220 Yeah

01:05:38.580 They just don't want you

01:05:39.220 To be different

01:05:39.780 100%

01:05:40.720 Yeah

01:05:40.940 Yeah

01:05:41.160 Yeah

01:05:41.380 You get like slapped

01:05:42.620 On the back of the hand

01:05:43.260 It says right here

01:05:44.200 It was all due

01:05:45.340 It was believed

01:05:45.960 To an unloving

01:05:46.780 Refrigerator mother

01:05:47.760 Even as late

01:05:48.440 As the 1900s

01:05:49.320 Some schools in Ireland

01:05:49.940 Were still forcing

01:05:50.740 Southpaw children

01:05:51.640 To write with their right hands

01:05:52.860 Nowadays we know

01:05:53.920 That 9 out of 10 people

01:05:54.940 Are right handed

01:05:55.500 And that left handedness

01:05:56.700 Is likely to be genetic

01:05:57.940 What's a refrigerator mother

01:06:01.520 Yeah

01:06:02.040 Is that like a latchkey kid

01:06:04.320 In Ireland

01:06:04.660 The term refrigerator mother

01:06:05.940 Was coined by Austrian physicist

01:06:07.360 Leo Kanner in the 1940s

01:06:08.900 To describe a mother

01:06:09.540 Whose cold uncaring style

01:06:11.000 So traumatized her child

01:06:12.260 That they were treated

01:06:13.160 Into autism

01:06:13.940 Wow

01:06:14.360 So they thought maybe

01:06:15.600 If he was left handed

01:06:16.260 He was autistic

01:06:16.880 We had a fellow

01:06:18.480 With Down syndrome

01:06:19.240 In our town

01:06:20.760 And his mom

01:06:22.160 Just thought he was Irish

01:06:23.000 His whole life

01:06:23.760 I can't remember

01:06:24.600 Saying that before

01:06:25.420 Yeah

01:06:25.720 And it was just crazy man

01:06:27.200 Yeah and he might have been

01:06:28.560 Actually

01:06:28.840 He would dress him up

01:06:29.540 In all these Boston Celtics

01:06:30.840 Shit all the time

01:06:31.440 No way

01:06:31.720 Oh it's crazy yeah

01:06:32.440 Leprechaun things

01:06:33.080 Yeah just different

01:06:34.100 Yeah different

01:06:34.660 Just joyful outfits

01:06:36.020 That poet yesterday

01:06:36.960 The guy we were

01:06:38.240 Doing the show with

01:06:38.980 I had green shoes on

01:06:39.920 And he called me a leprechaun

01:06:40.800 Within five minutes

01:06:41.480 I had never met him before

01:06:42.920 And yeah

01:06:44.000 Called me a leprechaun

01:06:44.840 It's terrible

01:06:45.360 Yeah he was kind of

01:06:46.220 Outgoing like that

01:06:47.060 Yeah he was

01:06:47.920 Yeah he kind of

01:06:48.820 He had a couple of pops

01:06:50.080 Do people get married

01:06:52.660 Young in Ireland

01:06:53.440 What's that like

01:06:54.260 Not so much

01:06:56.360 I don't know

01:06:56.980 What's it like here

01:06:57.720 I feel like it used to be

01:06:58.940 But not anymore

01:06:59.660 Yeah

01:07:00.100 Yeah like I would say

01:07:03.340 30s early 30s

01:07:05.180 Maybe

01:07:05.500 Nowadays

01:07:06.420 I know my parents

01:07:07.200 Got married when they were

01:07:07.760 Like 23

01:07:08.200 So I was just

01:07:08.600 Gradually growing up

01:07:09.340 Yeah I guess I just wonder

01:07:10.980 Like how the cultures

01:07:11.820 Are super different

01:07:13.020 Oh yeah

01:07:14.580 In a lot of ways

01:07:15.420 I'd imagine

01:07:15.880 I mean

01:07:16.760 That guy Joshua

01:07:18.400 The poet last night

01:07:19.000 He couldn't drink

01:07:19.520 He was 20 years old

01:07:20.580 I mean in Ireland

01:07:21.320 That is not the case

01:07:22.700 People can drink there early eh

01:07:24.180 Well 18

01:07:24.960 But you know

01:07:25.820 Well they let him

01:07:26.960 In the pubs as well

01:07:27.740 Some

01:07:27.940 Yeah yeah yeah

01:07:28.720 Especially down the country

01:07:29.620 Like after the road bowling

01:07:30.980 Yeah

01:07:31.420 Everyone's getting in

01:07:32.080 I'd imagine that

01:07:32.760 Yeah dude

01:07:33.940 Yeah Cork was something else

01:07:35.400 I couldn't even believe

01:07:35.980 When we got there

01:07:36.460 I was like this is so wild

01:07:37.760 You played the marquee too

01:07:38.640 That's great

01:07:39.100 Yeah and the tent there

01:07:40.160 I played there one time

01:07:41.180 Yeah

01:07:41.480 It was totally different

01:07:44.240 The acoustics were a little bit

01:07:45.200 Different in there

01:07:45.760 Do you have to change your set

01:07:46.740 In a cultural way

01:07:48.240 Probably not right

01:07:49.060 Oh I learned stuff

01:07:50.800 About like Belfast

01:07:51.960 When I first got there

01:07:52.860 Yeah yeah yeah

01:07:53.480 And like the NRA

01:07:55.060 The IRA

01:07:56.200 Yeah and the IRA

01:07:57.380 Yeah

01:07:57.740 Yes

01:07:58.400 And we learned about the IRA

01:08:00.080 And like

01:08:01.380 Yeah like

01:08:03.100 Ooh

01:08:03.560 Up the raw

01:08:04.940 We learned about that

01:08:05.860 Yeah yeah

01:08:06.260 And then we learned

01:08:07.000 Fuck England

01:08:07.780 Was the big thing we learned

01:08:08.820 You were saying

01:08:08.980 You could just lean on that

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01:08:10.440 Oh if things got bad

01:08:11.100 Yeah

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01:08:12.960 People would go

01:08:13.520 Some guy pulled out a sword

01:08:14.740 I'm like

01:08:15.040 Who has a sword

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01:08:19.620 Well that seems

01:08:20.600 It's just security

01:08:21.740 Yeah that seems a bit

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01:10:40.120 What are some musicians

01:10:41.520 That you really admire

01:10:42.520 I know that's kind of like

01:10:43.620 No no no

01:10:44.520 Hosier's a big one for me

01:10:45.580 Oh yeah

01:10:46.160 He's playing here

01:10:47.260 Coming up at the

01:10:47.740 Pilgrimage Festival

01:10:48.560 Oh I saw that

01:10:49.880 Yeah

01:10:50.160 I was sad

01:10:50.800 Because I'll be gone

01:10:51.420 But he

01:10:52.440 Yeah he just

01:10:54.000 He's Irish

01:10:54.640 And he

01:10:55.160 Oh wow

01:10:56.020 Yeah I think sometimes

01:10:57.000 People don't know that

01:10:57.780 I think

01:10:58.180 I remember

01:10:58.820 Someone thought

01:11:00.000 I was talking to someone recently

01:11:01.000 They thought he was from here

01:11:01.780 But he

01:11:02.420 It's just cool

01:11:03.940 He kind of

01:11:04.640 Blew up way before me

01:11:06.540 And

01:11:07.600 It's just a nice

01:11:09.360 To see

01:11:10.160 It's kind of a cool

01:11:11.100 Role model to have

01:11:12.140 He just carries himself

01:11:13.140 Very well I think

01:11:13.860 You know

01:11:14.260 Will you keep in touch

01:11:15.100 Or hit him up

01:11:15.560 If you have any

01:11:16.260 Thoughts or something

01:11:17.300 Yeah definitely

01:11:17.640 Not even thoughts

01:11:18.340 But just to talk

01:11:18.960 I think artists

01:11:19.460 Don't talk to each other enough

01:11:20.420 Yeah

01:11:20.820 Like I find it hard

01:11:21.500 To talk to other artists

01:11:22.240 Sometimes

01:11:22.580 Because I feel like

01:11:23.240 It's very

01:11:23.620 We're all quite selfish

01:11:25.420 And we're all so locked

01:11:26.520 Into our own existence

01:11:27.420 That it's tricky sometimes

01:11:28.720 I find it much easier

01:11:30.200 To connect with

01:11:31.320 People who are involved

01:11:32.500 In sports

01:11:33.060 I think that's easier

01:11:34.360 Sometimes

01:11:35.040 But he's

01:11:35.580 I don't know

01:11:36.200 It's just cool for me

01:11:37.040 To see him

01:11:37.580 He's got this huge career

01:11:39.080 Where he's got so many

01:11:40.600 Followers and supporters

01:11:42.220 Of his music

01:11:42.680 But it's always

01:11:44.220 Just about the music

01:11:44.960 You know what I mean

01:11:45.480 It's just he's

01:11:46.140 Inherently him

01:11:46.860 And I think that's

01:11:47.520 A pretty cool thing

01:11:48.460 And it's good for me

01:11:49.260 To kind of like

01:11:49.920 Just see that

01:11:50.820 And follow it

01:11:51.620 Yeah

01:11:51.820 Definitely

01:11:52.600 Yeah I'm trying to think

01:11:53.800 Of some other Irish musicians

01:11:55.260 You too are

01:11:56.840 Obviously probably

01:11:57.440 The biggest ever

01:11:57.960 But

01:11:58.200 Oh yeah

01:11:59.180 Of course

01:11:59.800 Dude one time

01:12:01.860 I went to

01:12:02.660 Like the MTV

01:12:04.080 Movie Awards

01:12:05.020 Or something

01:12:05.500 Might have been

01:12:06.400 Music Awards

01:12:07.020 I think it was

01:12:08.260 Music Awards actually

01:12:09.080 So I got dropped

01:12:10.620 Off there

01:12:11.020 I'm walking up

01:12:12.000 And all these people

01:12:12.800 Start cheering right

01:12:14.000 And I got like a pass

01:12:15.680 Like through the

01:12:16.120 Artist pass

01:12:16.700 Whatever

01:12:16.920 And I'm walking

01:12:18.440 All these people

01:12:18.840 Are cheering

01:12:19.140 And I just

01:12:19.820 Like in my head

01:12:20.460 I was like

01:12:20.720 These people are

01:12:21.260 Cheering for me

01:12:21.940 Yeah

01:12:22.160 And I was like

01:12:23.480 What

01:12:24.300 And then I looked

01:12:25.080 Next to me

01:12:25.500 And it was

01:12:25.960 Bono

01:12:26.660 Yeah

01:12:27.340 Were you talking to him

01:12:28.160 I said nice glasses

01:12:30.240 That's what I said

01:12:30.860 Because I didn't know

01:12:32.280 Who he was

01:12:32.980 Yeah

01:12:33.360 At the time

01:12:34.340 I was just kind of

01:12:35.200 Like I was 19

01:12:36.120 And I was like

01:12:36.560 I didn't have a clue

01:12:37.280 He's the best

01:12:38.020 You know

01:12:38.600 Sometimes when you're

01:12:40.720 Talking to somebody

01:12:41.340 That's so famous

01:12:42.720 And has been

01:12:43.160 For such a long time

01:12:44.000 You kind of feel

01:12:44.900 Like you're not getting

01:12:45.540 There's no

01:12:46.220 Nothing beneath the surface

01:12:47.280 Oh yeah

01:12:47.700 With him

01:12:48.700 It's the complete opposite

01:12:49.460 Really

01:12:49.900 You can tell

01:12:50.420 Like if you were

01:12:50.820 Talking to him

01:12:51.260 He's just full

01:12:52.000 Undivided attention

01:12:52.900 And gives feedback

01:12:54.120 And will pay attention

01:12:55.080 To you

01:12:55.380 And stuff

01:12:55.660 It's great

01:12:56.020 Oh I've met some

01:12:57.280 Of these guys

01:12:57.580 Niall Oren

01:12:58.280 Yep

01:12:58.800 Neat guy

01:12:59.420 Who else

01:13:00.880 Oh the Cranberries

01:13:02.460 Yep

01:13:03.060 Van Morrison

01:13:04.200 Oh

01:13:05.260 Thin Lizzy

01:13:05.660 Are the best

01:13:06.120 Have you listened

01:13:06.520 To Thin Lizzy

01:13:06.960 Uh uh

01:13:07.540 Oh man

01:13:08.220 I gotta get in it

01:13:09.160 You like rock and roll

01:13:10.160 You like the right place

01:13:10.860 Rays

01:13:11.140 Yeah

01:13:11.380 Oh man

01:13:12.000 Thin Lizzy

01:13:12.500 Is

01:13:12.700 That's up yours

01:13:14.360 Straza

01:13:14.820 I'll have to get into that

01:13:16.420 Thin Lizzy

01:13:18.080 Oh the best

01:13:19.220 He passed away

01:13:20.600 A long time ago

01:13:21.180 But he

01:13:21.600 The music's incredible

01:13:23.320 Wow

01:13:23.860 The boys are back in town

01:13:26.000 You know that song

01:13:26.620 The boys are back

01:13:27.520 Where were they?

01:13:29.020 What do you mean?

01:13:29.880 Like why were they

01:13:30.560 Where were they

01:13:31.240 Oh

01:13:31.600 Does he ever say that?

01:13:33.120 I actually do know

01:13:34.080 Yeah

01:13:34.320 They're hanging down at Dino's

01:13:35.520 Is the lyric

01:13:35.920 Dino's is here too

01:13:37.280 But there's a Dino's

01:13:38.640 Lake restaurant in Dublin

01:13:40.120 Oh yeah

01:13:40.780 Yeah

01:13:41.060 And that's where they

01:13:42.200 And that's where they

01:13:42.220 Were hanging out

01:13:42.620 And where

01:13:42.980 Where'd they come back

01:13:43.740 In town from?

01:13:44.860 Yeah I don't know

01:13:45.640 But I think about that

01:13:46.580 All the time

01:13:46.940 And I always think about them

01:13:48.000 Going on tour back then

01:13:49.660 It must have just been like

01:13:50.720 See you soon

01:13:51.960 Yeah

01:13:52.380 Imagine in the 70s

01:13:53.500 And no one knows where you are

01:13:55.180 No one knows how it's going

01:13:56.180 You're not on social media

01:13:57.460 It must be insane

01:13:59.160 And you just come back

01:14:00.260 And kind of

01:14:00.720 Hopefully it went well

01:14:01.500 Yeah

01:14:02.300 And I don't even know

01:14:02.960 If you knew how well it went really

01:14:04.640 No never

01:14:05.420 You just get feedback every night

01:14:06.680 And then

01:14:07.040 A lot of drugs and drinking though

01:14:08.860 God that must have been fucking fun eh

01:14:10.980 Crazy

01:14:11.360 Did you ever struggle

01:14:12.240 With any of the gear

01:14:13.320 Or whatever they call it over there

01:14:14.440 Nah man

01:14:15.040 I find it

01:14:15.600 Like

01:14:16.360 I don't know

01:14:17.440 Again

01:14:18.040 Like not to harp on about it

01:14:19.180 But I think sport was crucial for me

01:14:20.620 It was just kind of

01:14:21.940 I always

01:14:23.040 Like a tour

01:14:24.360 When I tour

01:14:25.040 I'll often do kind of

01:14:26.200 I feel like it's not sustainable nowadays

01:14:28.080 In music

01:14:28.460 It was different back then

01:14:29.320 Do you know

01:14:29.540 I don't know how heavily

01:14:30.520 They toured and stuff

01:14:31.260 But nowadays

01:14:31.700 Touring is so key

01:14:32.960 Like you'll just

01:14:33.520 I don't know

01:14:34.420 Personally I wouldn't be able

01:14:35.380 To sustain it at all

01:14:36.340 No

01:14:36.660 Even drinking

01:14:37.740 I gotta be

01:14:38.520 Careful

01:14:39.120 Yeah I just think

01:14:40.040 It'd just be impossible

01:14:40.900 Like to be hung

01:14:41.800 And then to the response

01:14:42.800 What is getting to the next place

01:14:44.340 It just seems like

01:14:45.620 It's not worth it yet

01:14:46.700 Yeah

01:14:47.180 I don't know how people do it

01:14:49.240 No I know

01:14:50.280 Yeah sometimes

01:14:51.080 Like I don't know

01:14:52.420 I don't know how some artists do it

01:14:53.920 But I wouldn't be able

01:14:55.380 Even last night

01:14:56.180 Like I'm tired today

01:14:56.840 From just playing an acoustic set

01:14:57.980 In a cafe last night

01:14:58.800 I'm very pedestrian

01:14:59.980 Yeah

01:15:00.360 Definitely

01:15:00.880 What about the love life man

01:15:04.500 How does that look for you

01:15:05.620 It's solid

01:15:06.940 And always has been

01:15:07.780 Not always has been

01:15:08.800 But for a long time

01:15:09.620 Oh really

01:15:09.760 You've always been good

01:15:10.380 With the ladies then

01:15:11.000 No

01:15:11.180 No no no no

01:15:11.820 Yeah because that's kind of

01:15:13.020 I've always been good

01:15:13.740 With one lady yeah

01:15:14.660 Oh you have

01:15:15.060 Not in a corny way

01:15:15.700 That's the corniest thing

01:15:16.300 I've ever said

01:15:16.740 Do people know that

01:15:17.380 That you have a girlfriend

01:15:18.060 Yeah kind of

01:15:19.380 I don't talk about it much

01:15:20.620 I don't talk about it much

01:15:20.640 But I think if people wanted to know

01:15:22.260 They would know yeah

01:15:22.900 Oh so you had a lady then

01:15:24.260 For a long time

01:15:25.000 Wow

01:15:25.600 Yeah yeah

01:15:26.140 I don't see like

01:15:27.700 I'm happy to talk about it

01:15:28.940 But I don't see it as like

01:15:30.320 A relevant part of my career

01:15:31.860 Do you know what I mean

01:15:32.380 I don't see it as something

01:15:33.280 To promote

01:15:34.780 She definitely doesn't

01:15:35.940 So it's just our existence

01:15:37.260 Outside of my career

01:15:39.080 Does it feel

01:15:41.180 Does that inspire some of your music

01:15:42.800 With some of the like

01:15:43.420 The emo stuff or no

01:15:44.580 What do you mean the emo stuff

01:15:45.980 Like some of the loving type stuff

01:15:47.740 Definitely

01:15:48.160 All of it

01:15:48.820 All of it

01:15:50.040 That's where it all comes from

01:15:52.600 And

01:15:52.880 Yeah

01:15:54.280 Yeah

01:15:54.780 I never talk about it

01:15:56.200 But it's all good

01:15:57.200 What about you

01:15:58.780 I don't know dude

01:16:03.040 I think

01:16:04.020 Yeah I gotta get a wife

01:16:05.880 I would like to get a wife

01:16:07.280 I will say that

01:16:08.460 I gotta get some of my

01:16:09.960 Affairs in order

01:16:11.620 I gotta get some of my affairs in order

01:16:14.960 This feels like a follow on

01:16:16.420 From the serial killer chat

01:16:17.500 This feels like

01:16:20.580 Yeah

01:16:21.180 Yeah dude

01:16:22.540 I've had it

01:16:23.200 Like I

01:16:23.940 Yeah I mean I date

01:16:25.120 You know it's just hard

01:16:26.080 You're in town

01:16:27.040 You're gone

01:16:27.540 And then you're supposed to be like

01:16:28.660 Date you know

01:16:29.260 Yeah of course

01:16:30.060 You're like come back

01:16:31.280 Three weeks later

01:16:31.940 But I think that's one of the reasons

01:16:33.240 Why I stayed in comedy

01:16:34.080 Because I was like

01:16:34.920 Oh well

01:16:35.900 I was

01:16:37.600 Had so much trouble like

01:16:38.820 Staying in relationships

01:16:40.000 And being committed in relationships

01:16:41.180 I was like

01:16:41.540 This always gives me an excuse to leave

01:16:43.500 You know

01:16:44.860 Yeah yeah yeah

01:16:45.580 So it was like

01:16:45.980 I gotta go

01:16:46.540 You know

01:16:46.980 And then you come back

01:16:47.860 And they might have found someone else

01:16:49.240 Of course

01:16:49.660 You'd hope they found somebody else

01:16:51.060 Oh really

01:16:51.720 A lot of times

01:16:52.480 So you can detach from it

01:16:53.520 Oh yeah

01:16:54.100 Yeah yeah

01:16:54.660 You're like oh gosh

01:16:55.880 Good luck with Stanley

01:16:56.920 Or whatever

01:16:57.460 Yeah I'm glad you found him

01:16:59.200 Yeah so things like that

01:17:00.440 I think

01:17:00.760 I'm trying to think of

01:17:03.220 Yeah I've just been

01:17:04.300 I just had like

01:17:05.220 I don't know

01:17:06.780 It's just always hard for me to

01:17:08.540 Like

01:17:10.860 Trust somebody

01:17:13.400 I think it was just like

01:17:15.520 The hardest thing

01:17:16.260 Right

01:17:16.540 I just had no idea

01:17:17.980 Of how to do it

01:17:19.160 Yeah

01:17:20.540 It was like a foreign practice

01:17:22.860 Trusting somebody

01:17:24.060 Yeah

01:17:24.280 Really

01:17:24.900 Anybody

01:17:25.520 Only romantically

01:17:26.640 Friends

01:17:27.180 Anything

01:17:27.460 Oh no

01:17:28.100 It even goes over into work

01:17:29.080 And everything a lot of times

01:17:29.900 Right yeah

01:17:30.260 Yeah

01:17:30.560 I think I have to really

01:17:32.200 Yeah I don't know

01:17:36.380 Does it like take time

01:17:37.720 Yeah I think it takes time

01:17:39.560 Sometimes you can tell

01:17:40.340 With people kind of easy

01:17:41.360 But it's been

01:17:42.560 It's just been a tough thing

01:17:45.020 For me over the years

01:17:45.940 Sure

01:17:46.820 And I don't even know why

01:17:47.800 Sometimes

01:17:48.380 It's a crazy line of work

01:17:50.060 To be in too right

01:17:50.960 Yeah

01:17:52.940 For that situation

01:17:54.020 Yeah

01:17:54.580 And then you're leaving

01:17:55.500 Or all the time

01:17:56.200 Or something

01:17:56.640 It's like

01:17:57.100 So many of my friends

01:17:58.120 Have been divorced

01:17:58.780 That are in comedy

01:17:59.460 And stuff like that

01:18:00.240 I think it's just

01:18:01.060 A tough go of it

01:18:01.880 Yeah of course

01:18:02.840 Do you own any animals Dermot?

01:18:05.060 I have a dog

01:18:05.640 Called Tom

01:18:06.260 That's it

01:18:06.980 I miss him dearly

01:18:07.860 He's a puppy

01:18:09.140 Does he write?

01:18:10.200 Does he write?

01:18:11.120 Yeah

01:18:11.200 Tom the writing dog

01:18:12.340 Yeah

01:18:12.560 He is the best

01:18:15.740 It's the best thing in the world

01:18:16.920 I always took the piss

01:18:18.100 Out of the emotional support thing

01:18:19.320 But I believe in it now

01:18:20.740 You know what I mean?

01:18:21.580 Like emotional support dogs

01:18:22.500 Flying with him and stuff

01:18:23.280 Oh you take him on planes and all?

01:18:25.260 I haven't yet

01:18:26.020 But I will

01:18:26.700 Oh you're looking forward to it?

01:18:27.740 Yeah yeah

01:18:28.000 You think like

01:18:28.600 No I can't

01:18:29.140 He was in Dublin

01:18:29.800 With his big German shepherd

01:18:30.880 And I was like

01:18:31.600 If he can do that

01:18:32.180 I gotta be able to get my little puppy

01:18:33.600 On the plane

01:18:34.020 Wow he took a German shepherd with him?

01:18:36.480 Yeah now it's a nice dog

01:18:37.760 It's like well behaved

01:18:38.720 I think it sleeps under his legs

01:18:39.980 While he's on the flight

01:18:40.560 Oh my god

01:18:41.440 Yeah it's badass

01:18:41.980 It's beautiful

01:18:42.520 Yeah

01:18:42.940 It's the best thing

01:18:44.140 I don't know

01:18:44.740 Here's a Dublin zoo

01:18:46.780 And let's help of breastfeeding mothers

01:18:48.400 To encourage female orangutan bond

01:18:50.500 With her newborn

01:18:51.620 So this is happening

01:18:53.360 Oh no way

01:18:53.860 You guys

01:18:54.320 Yeah

01:18:54.640 Brilliant

01:18:55.280 Well not brilliant

01:18:56.240 What app did this monkey

01:18:58.780 Or this woman off of

01:19:00.280 Cause this seems like

01:19:03.960 And if those are Irish breasts

01:19:05.660 Brother they're full cream

01:19:06.920 I'll tell you that

01:19:07.640 They have

01:19:09.900 Dude I saw some breasts over there

01:19:12.660 You did?

01:19:13.440 Oh my god

01:19:14.800 It's like

01:19:16.420 Just like

01:19:17.080 I'm coming home

01:19:19.660 Tell the world

01:19:21.280 I'm coming home

01:19:22.800 It just feels like

01:19:24.180 The root of time

01:19:25.240 Started in them

01:19:26.000 Right right right

01:19:26.940 Lovely

01:19:27.440 I mean god

01:19:28.660 They just like

01:19:29.200 The fucking

01:19:29.780 Just beauty

01:19:30.880 Just like the eyes

01:19:31.720 Of the moon

01:19:32.360 Yeah yeah yeah

01:19:33.880 Just those fucking

01:19:35.220 Front hammers baby

01:19:37.380 You'd see some god damn

01:19:38.880 I mean you'd see

01:19:40.400 They literally look like

01:19:41.540 They were sculpted

01:19:42.560 Out of like

01:19:43.180 You know

01:19:44.500 Just a fine fucking

01:19:46.260 Thick yogurt

01:19:48.700 This is wild

01:19:49.540 You thought you said

01:19:50.220 There's no women

01:19:50.840 Oh but when you saw

01:19:52.600 And there was one

01:19:53.500 They would break

01:19:54.300 Yeah or they'd see

01:19:55.280 Yeah you'd see

01:19:55.980 A fucking shadow

01:19:57.380 Coming over you

01:19:58.220 And it'd be a big tit

01:19:59.220 A woman would have

01:20:01.000 Leaned out of a window

01:20:01.740 To look for something

01:20:02.620 Yeah yeah yeah

01:20:03.580 You know

01:20:03.840 You had your eyes

01:20:04.580 Peeled constantly

01:20:05.300 Make sure a man

01:20:06.140 Was still at the pub

01:20:06.980 You know

01:20:07.300 Yeah yeah yeah

01:20:07.840 Cause the pub

01:20:08.360 Yeah I mean

01:20:09.300 I went into a pub

01:20:09.980 No furniture

01:20:10.780 Bunch of guys

01:20:12.320 Holding each other up

01:20:13.340 Fucking just yelling

01:20:14.240 And drinking

01:20:14.720 Yeah

01:20:15.180 No furniture

01:20:15.840 You would go into

01:20:16.580 A pet store

01:20:17.380 No pets

01:20:18.160 Seven people

01:20:19.040 Drinking in there

01:20:20.060 Just drinking

01:20:20.440 Talking about animals

01:20:21.800 Everything there

01:20:25.020 Is just

01:20:25.580 People having a beer man

01:20:27.300 It's funny though

01:20:28.260 You know like

01:20:29.040 Do you ever see the way

01:20:30.180 Italians

01:20:31.540 Like live to be

01:20:32.760 Really really old

01:20:33.500 Cause they all just

01:20:34.080 Hang out constantly

01:20:34.860 I like to think

01:20:35.800 Irish people

01:20:36.200 Are kind of like that too

01:20:36.860 We just need each other

01:20:37.820 There's all these

01:20:38.680 Like small communities

01:20:39.500 And stuff

01:20:39.960 They need somewhere

01:20:40.800 To gather

01:20:41.500 Yeah

01:20:41.880 Music's part of that

01:20:43.680 And I grew up in New Orleans

01:20:44.800 And there people

01:20:45.720 Were drunk

01:20:46.420 Vomiting

01:20:46.900 You didn't see it

01:20:47.560 In Ireland man

01:20:48.160 Puking

01:20:48.580 Yeah I didn't see

01:20:49.200 A lot of it

01:20:49.580 Oh there's plenty

01:20:50.140 Of people

01:20:50.360 Oh there is

01:20:50.800 Oh yeah

01:20:51.300 Oh and they do it

01:20:52.060 All at once

01:20:52.560 Or something

01:20:52.900 I would say

01:20:54.160 It's just like

01:20:54.880 You maybe missed it

01:20:56.200 There's plenty of it though

01:20:57.300 Yeah

01:20:57.740 Yeah

01:20:58.160 It's the worst feeling

01:20:59.420 In the world

01:20:59.900 It's crazy

01:21:00.460 I would say

01:21:01.120 That nearly keeps me

01:21:02.080 Away from drinking

01:21:02.540 Too much

01:21:02.920 Is the puking

01:21:03.860 I fucking hate it

01:21:05.080 Well the first part

01:21:06.200 Of puking

01:21:06.580 I don't like

01:21:07.040 You start to get

01:21:07.620 This little sweat

01:21:08.720 Out of like

01:21:09.320 The middle of your neck

01:21:10.640 Or tongue

01:21:10.940 Yeah yeah yeah

01:21:11.580 Or the saliva

01:21:12.160 It's like the saliva

01:21:12.860 All over again

01:21:13.420 Yeah it's like

01:21:14.040 Your saliva starts to be like

01:21:15.480 Hey guess what

01:21:16.300 Fuck you

01:21:16.660 Yeah you're in trouble

01:21:17.200 Yeah yeah yeah

01:21:18.140 Yeah you're in trouble

01:21:19.380 Yeah that's pretty hellish

01:21:24.280 Um

01:21:25.280 So

01:21:26.460 I like how you take moments

01:21:27.720 To think

01:21:28.200 Oh dude

01:21:29.420 You just scan your mind

01:21:29.960 I don't have a choice

01:21:30.980 Yeah yeah yeah

01:21:33.700 Yeah I wish I could

01:21:34.800 Just call upon it

01:21:36.480 Yeah man

01:21:38.280 My brain

01:21:38.840 Retired years ago

01:21:40.580 Years ago

01:21:42.720 Um

01:21:43.780 Yeah and some of the names

01:21:45.660 In our life

01:21:46.180 I feel like people

01:21:47.040 Are trying to be

01:21:47.460 Have the most Irish name

01:21:48.980 You'll meet like

01:21:50.120 Somebody A-O-I-F-E

01:21:51.720 Aoife

01:21:52.080 Aoife

01:21:52.800 Aoife

01:21:52.840 Yeah yeah yeah

01:21:53.620 And that doesn't

01:21:54.240 Really spell that

01:21:54.840 Niamh

01:21:54.980 We were talking to

01:21:55.980 Someone yesterday

01:21:56.380 Called Niamh

01:21:57.000 It's N-I-A-M-H

01:21:58.520 Yeah

01:21:58.920 And that's not anything

01:21:59.980 So it's like

01:22:01.240 You have to have

01:22:02.300 Real names

01:22:03.120 If you're even gonna

01:22:04.000 You should guess some

01:22:05.540 These are very

01:22:06.780 Run-of-the-mill

01:22:07.500 Alright

01:22:08.180 You got some

01:22:09.000 Spicier names

01:22:09.640 You have to

01:22:10.160 Bring up very hard

01:22:10.820 To spell Irish names

01:22:12.220 But without the answers

01:22:14.060 Alright

01:22:15.780 Um

01:22:16.720 Count

01:22:18.840 Count

01:22:20.340 Count me

01:22:21.680 Count me

01:22:22.480 Count me

01:22:23.400 Quiva

01:22:24.220 Alright

01:22:25.480 Nope

01:22:26.100 Siobhan

01:22:28.140 That's nice

01:22:29.480 But it's Siobhan

01:22:30.780 Siobhan

01:22:31.820 Okay

01:22:32.080 I didn't know

01:22:32.780 They had

01:22:33.220 Black people

01:22:34.200 There

01:22:34.500 Alright

01:22:35.480 Rory

01:22:37.300 Rory

01:22:38.360 That's nice

01:22:39.080 Yeah Rory

01:22:39.680 Oh Rory

01:22:40.960 That would be like

01:22:42.040 Rory

01:22:42.580 D-H

01:22:43.900 Like it's like

01:22:45.180 Silent

01:22:45.500 Okay

01:22:45.820 They spelled it

01:22:46.540 So you know

01:22:46.980 At home

01:22:47.260 R-U-A-I-D-H-R-I

01:22:49.600 Okay

01:22:49.980 Yeah yeah yeah

01:22:50.740 So they don't

01:22:51.640 Spell it like Rory

01:22:52.480 The next one

01:22:53.620 T-A-D-G-H

01:22:54.960 Ta-da

01:22:55.520 Or

01:22:58.860 Taig

01:23:00.760 Taig

01:23:01.540 Taig

01:23:02.080 Taig

01:23:02.380 Okay

01:23:03.140 And the next one

01:23:04.260 N-I-A-M-H

01:23:06.360 Noah

01:23:08.480 No

01:23:09.240 Neve

01:23:10.060 Neve

01:23:10.840 Just N-E-E-V

01:23:12.400 Neve

01:23:12.940 And then the next one

01:23:14.500 Another one that's not real

01:23:16.240 S-A-O-I-R-S-E

01:23:18.400 Siri

01:23:20.040 Saoirse

01:23:22.300 Saoirse

01:23:23.180 Saoirse yeah

01:23:23.980 Oh this is unbelievable

01:23:25.100 And then I'll do this last one

01:23:26.580 Because I've seen this one before

01:23:27.800 These are good now

01:23:28.700 We're

01:23:29.340 Okay

01:23:29.760 Here we go to

01:23:30.900 G-R-A-I-N-N-E

01:23:35.340 Yeah

01:23:35.960 Granny

01:23:36.580 Granya

01:23:37.400 Granya

01:23:38.060 That's the closest you've been

01:23:39.060 Oh that's beautiful actually

01:23:40.180 Yeah

01:23:40.620 And this one right here

01:23:41.820 Is not anything

01:23:42.640 But I'll read it

01:23:43.640 B-L-A-T-H-N-A-I-D

01:23:46.440 Mm-hmm

01:23:47.340 Blot

01:23:50.300 Blotinide

01:23:52.020 Blotinide

01:23:54.640 Blotinide

01:23:55.600 Blotinide

01:23:56.340 Yeah you're doing alright

01:23:57.200 Alright here's one right here

01:23:58.580 C-A-O-I-L-F-H-I-O-N-N

01:24:03.740 Kevin

01:24:04.640 That one is even weird for me

01:24:09.800 I would say

01:24:10.380 I would say Quailin

01:24:11.480 Quailin

01:24:12.440 Yeah

01:24:12.820 Yeah there's just

01:24:13.840 Quailfin

01:24:14.320 Everybody you meet over there

01:24:15.680 You're like I'm Quailin Madonna Gargi

01:24:17.740 You know

01:24:18.060 Yeah yeah

01:24:18.380 But I see that here too

01:24:19.620 Oh yes

01:24:20.440 You know what I mean

01:24:21.000 Everyone

01:24:21.460 I was in the boot barn

01:24:23.260 Last weekend

01:24:24.220 And there was a guy called Lachlan

01:24:25.540 Yeah

01:24:26.660 Yeah and he was like I'm Irish

01:24:27.920 You know he just claims it

01:24:29.500 But doesn't know

01:24:30.080 You're like no shit

01:24:30.660 Yeah

01:24:31.160 Um

01:24:32.180 What about the new album

01:24:34.360 So are you working on a new album

01:24:35.660 What is it like for you right now

01:24:37.140 Uh yes I am

01:24:38.480 I have

01:24:39.560 Written I would say

01:24:41.820 25 to 30 songs

01:24:45.100 Wow

01:24:45.700 Yeah but it goes crazy

01:24:47.480 It's kind of like

01:24:48.180 You can do as many as you want

01:24:49.340 You can do hundreds

01:24:50.080 And like I know

01:24:51.000 Do you remember that song

01:24:52.660 That Rihanna had

01:24:53.380 Uh

01:24:54.020 I want you to stay

01:24:55.520 Uh

01:24:57.240 Not really sure

01:24:58.220 How I feel about it

01:24:59.460 That song

01:24:59.880 No

01:25:00.300 I was with the fella

01:25:01.060 That featured on that song

01:25:02.100 And

01:25:02.860 Huge success

01:25:04.500 And then his second album

01:25:05.340 He wrote 250 songs

01:25:06.780 So it's just

01:25:07.500 Like at what point

01:25:08.380 Do you kind of call it

01:25:09.360 You know what I mean

01:25:09.900 And then I've heard

01:25:10.680 Billie Eilish do interviews

01:25:11.540 Where she says

01:25:12.240 If the album is 12 songs

01:25:14.120 I've written 12 songs

01:25:15.020 And that's it

01:25:15.460 So I'd rather be like that

01:25:17.020 It's crazy to me

01:25:18.040 The idea of throwing songs out

01:25:19.060 You know

01:25:19.340 I don't know why I would do that

01:25:20.240 So I've got a bunch now

01:25:21.160 And I feel good about them

01:25:22.660 I never know

01:25:23.900 That's what I'm saying

01:25:24.520 It's like I analyze myself too much

01:25:25.760 And I think sometimes

01:25:27.260 I lose perspective

01:25:27.960 And I could have the best song

01:25:29.020 In the world

01:25:29.300 But I can't see it

01:25:30.300 You know

01:25:30.700 And do you

01:25:31.360 Is there certain people

01:25:32.000 You go to

01:25:32.460 To get really clear perspective

01:25:33.340 No

01:25:33.680 No

01:25:34.820 I don't play music to anyone

01:25:36.520 Anybody

01:25:37.740 Yeah

01:25:38.240 Because if it's good feedback

01:25:39.300 I'll be like

01:25:39.740 Yeah I know

01:25:40.160 And if it's bad

01:25:41.080 Then I'll be aggressive

01:25:42.420 Yeah

01:25:42.920 Wow

01:25:44.800 So what about a management

01:25:46.100 Or an agent or anything

01:25:46.980 Yeah some of that

01:25:47.840 But then

01:25:48.260 That's hard too right

01:25:50.360 Because you kind of question like

01:25:51.880 What are people's criteria

01:25:54.680 You know

01:25:55.120 To me I only care that it's good

01:25:56.500 But then

01:25:56.960 They might be like

01:25:57.820 Oh this song could be successful

01:25:58.920 And it's like

01:25:59.440 What does that mean

01:26:00.640 Right

01:26:01.140 You know

01:26:01.580 It could stink

01:26:02.580 But it could

01:26:03.080 Like it could send me down the wrong path

01:26:05.220 Musically

01:26:05.620 But it could make money on the radio

01:26:07.800 I don't know

01:26:08.520 So you gotta do the right thing

01:26:10.080 And do you

01:26:11.580 Will you choose a certain number out of those

01:26:14.060 Yeah

01:26:14.920 I like 10

01:26:15.640 I know like

01:26:17.120 I've seen like

01:26:18.060 Morgan Wallen's album

01:26:19.360 With like 37 songs and stuff

01:26:20.880 I don't know if I'm able for that kind of thing

01:26:22.420 Yeah

01:26:22.820 I mean yeah

01:26:23.560 I mean

01:26:23.880 Different people have different stuff

01:26:25.880 Definitely

01:26:26.460 Hmm

01:26:28.200 Yeah I wonder like

01:26:30.680 Yeah would I be scared

01:26:31.720 God it's just gotta be so scary

01:26:33.200 Putting an album out

01:26:34.160 Hmm

01:26:34.920 Yeah it's gonna define your life

01:26:36.800 For two or three years you know

01:26:37.920 It's almost like

01:26:38.660 Throwing a stick of dynamite

01:26:39.880 Into a room or something

01:26:40.900 Definitely

01:26:41.260 And then what if you don't hear anything

01:26:42.760 It may not go off

01:26:43.800 Yeah

01:26:44.040 Yeah yeah definitely

01:26:45.020 Yeah you never know

01:26:46.220 I think like

01:26:47.280 Yeah

01:26:48.240 That definitely scares me sometimes

01:26:50.440 And

01:26:50.820 It might not happen

01:26:52.460 You know what's almost even worse

01:26:53.860 Is that middle of the road

01:26:54.840 Kind of just like

01:26:55.780 Some people like

01:26:56.380 And boring

01:26:57.500 Yeah

01:26:58.080 For me what's funny is

01:26:59.220 Like I've never had a song

01:27:00.280 Go crazy

01:27:01.420 Do you know what I mean

01:27:01.940 Like I've never had a song

01:27:02.760 Like I play

01:27:03.580 Big

01:27:04.620 Venues

01:27:05.560 In most places

01:27:07.060 But like

01:27:07.660 I can walk around all day

01:27:09.900 And no one

01:27:10.740 Knows who I am

01:27:11.600 So I think I kind of exist

01:27:12.920 In a sweet spot

01:27:13.560 To some degree

01:27:14.120 You know what I mean

01:27:15.060 Yeah

01:27:15.440 I think for me

01:27:15.960 It's like a careful

01:27:16.600 What I wish for

01:27:17.220 Scenario sometimes

01:27:18.180 Because my life

01:27:19.000 Is still very normal

01:27:19.780 But then I get to go on stage

01:27:21.260 And do very abnormal things

01:27:22.780 You know

01:27:24.180 Like if I had to stay

01:27:25.040 In my hotel room all day

01:27:26.000 Because I can't

01:27:26.480 That would make me sad

01:27:27.500 Definitely

01:27:28.000 Yeah you're almost like

01:27:29.320 Clark Kent kind of

01:27:30.460 You know

01:27:32.140 Or Claire

01:27:32.780 Yeah

01:27:34.100 Quailin

01:27:34.720 Quailin kinship

01:27:36.160 Yeah I just

01:27:39.520 Just because you have

01:27:40.820 Some anonymity still

01:27:42.000 Definitely

01:27:42.680 There was one time

01:27:43.560 You do have a chip

01:27:45.320 On your shoulder

01:27:45.740 Sometimes though

01:27:46.400 I do

01:27:46.820 Like I was playing

01:27:47.640 For a football team

01:27:48.560 In New York

01:27:49.920 And we were at training

01:27:51.400 One night

01:27:51.820 And one guy was like

01:27:52.520 Are you playing shows

01:27:53.200 Or whatever

01:27:53.680 And I was like

01:27:54.100 Yeah I'm playing a show

01:27:54.780 At the Garden

01:27:55.420 And he was like

01:27:56.400 Oh cool

01:27:56.720 Are you like

01:27:57.200 Part of a bigger bill

01:27:58.600 Are you supporting somebody

01:27:59.580 And I'm constantly

01:28:00.600 Just like

01:28:00.900 No it's my show

01:28:01.520 Like people will be there

01:28:02.980 Hopefully

01:28:03.380 So I think people

01:28:05.400 Are constantly surprised

01:28:06.540 How big the shows are

01:28:08.360 Because my

01:28:08.800 I don't feel like

01:28:10.160 A very famous person

01:28:11.080 Which is lovely

01:28:11.780 Honestly

01:28:12.320 That's the way

01:28:12.960 You don't

01:28:13.300 Yeah I think you keep

01:28:14.440 Like a

01:28:15.060 You seem like

01:28:15.800 A pretty regular demeanor

01:28:16.920 Nicer man

01:28:18.060 Which I think

01:28:19.500 Is probably one of

01:28:20.060 The best compliments

01:28:20.620 You can get

01:28:21.340 Yeah yeah yeah

01:28:22.380 But then to go

01:28:23.000 And have that many

01:28:23.820 People show up

01:28:24.560 Or something

01:28:24.940 Yeah that's pretty

01:28:25.680 Freaking unbelievable

01:28:27.120 It's nuts

01:28:27.680 It's the only

01:28:28.100 I think like

01:28:28.740 If I

01:28:29.100 I feel lucky

01:28:30.000 In the sense that

01:28:30.720 Before I did all this

01:28:32.620 If I had a checklist

01:28:33.340 Of what I wanted

01:28:34.100 I feel quite lucky

01:28:35.160 I feel like I've

01:28:35.760 Ticked most boxes

01:28:36.560 Which is nice

01:28:37.380 You know my life

01:28:37.920 Hasn't changed

01:28:38.500 I get to play

01:28:39.560 To lots of people

01:28:40.220 I get to decide

01:28:41.480 What music I put out

01:28:42.340 That feels good to me

01:28:44.580 Yeah

01:28:44.960 Yeah

01:28:45.520 How long do you think

01:28:47.440 To your album will come out

01:28:48.160 Or do you have a plan on it

01:28:49.100 Or

01:28:49.200 Does it matter

01:28:51.220 I don't

01:28:51.980 I'm trying not to care

01:28:53.280 It matters

01:28:53.980 But

01:28:54.360 I don't know

01:28:55.980 How it works

01:28:56.620 To people

01:28:57.140 Yeah definitely

01:28:58.000 You do

01:28:58.460 Yeah like

01:28:59.380 Will people stick around

01:29:01.660 You know what I mean

01:29:02.360 Like I think music

01:29:03.140 You kind of have to stay

01:29:04.260 Relevant

01:29:05.560 And stay present

01:29:06.700 And release music

01:29:07.480 All the time

01:29:08.060 You know I think it's

01:29:09.820 I think you have to

01:29:11.620 Kind of do stuff constantly

01:29:12.800 And constantly bring stuff out

01:29:14.560 But

01:29:14.860 You got to be careful too

01:29:16.780 Because if

01:29:17.120 People just get bored

01:29:18.060 You know what I mean

01:29:18.760 I would love to

01:29:19.560 I'd love to bring out an album

01:29:21.020 Definitely in less than a year

01:29:22.820 But

01:29:23.200 I'm not in a hurry

01:29:24.000 To do it either

01:29:24.540 I would rather have a good one

01:29:25.740 You know what I mean

01:29:26.280 I don't think it needs to be just

01:29:27.940 Constantly doing it

01:29:29.840 And the tour off of it

01:29:31.020 Yeah

01:29:31.300 Like we've been doing

01:29:32.300 Touring very slow

01:29:33.120 We'll do like chunks

01:29:34.060 Yeah I see some

01:29:35.520 It's taken three years now

01:29:36.280 To do the tour

01:29:37.000 Oh man

01:29:37.700 But it's fine

01:29:38.400 Yeah people don't care

01:29:39.660 As long as you show up

01:29:40.460 People don't care

01:29:41.000 Yeah it's like

01:29:41.440 And it's been good

01:29:42.140 And I couldn't handle

01:29:43.200 Doing like a seven month tour

01:29:44.800 Or something

01:29:45.040 Yeah

01:29:45.300 I've seen like

01:29:46.080 Who did I see

01:29:47.140 I saw Matt McCusker's tour

01:29:48.240 And it was just every weekend

01:29:49.620 Like a couple shows

01:29:50.340 I was just

01:29:50.800 That must be so sweet

01:29:51.540 To do shows and go home

01:29:52.460 Yeah

01:29:52.840 But music you can't do that

01:29:53.680 Because you got like

01:29:54.400 A band and crew on the road

01:29:55.820 And you're paying everyone every day

01:29:56.800 So you just

01:29:57.440 You'd be bankrupt immediately

01:29:58.600 Yeah that's true

01:29:59.600 You gotta do it all

01:30:00.040 Yeah

01:30:00.280 Definitely

01:30:00.780 When you have such a squad

01:30:01.680 How much

01:30:02.420 Do you have a big band

01:30:04.880 Supporting you when you go out

01:30:05.800 There's

01:30:06.680 What is it

01:30:07.720 There's like

01:30:08.440 Six of us on stage

01:30:10.220 Oh Irish

01:30:11.040 Who are playing

01:30:11.300 No two of us Irish

01:30:12.880 And then

01:30:13.700 Everyone else is from

01:30:15.980 Australia

01:30:16.660 Switzerland

01:30:17.100 And the UK

01:30:17.680 Ooh

01:30:18.600 Yeah

01:30:19.020 Pretty diverse

01:30:20.420 Yes indeed

01:30:21.000 But it's important

01:30:22.640 Like you

01:30:23.480 You kind of

01:30:24.420 Even though it's a solo project

01:30:25.380 I think it has to feel like

01:30:26.200 I hate when

01:30:26.840 A songwriter

01:30:27.760 It looks like it's them

01:30:29.400 And their employees

01:30:30.300 I think that's crap

01:30:31.080 Yeah

01:30:31.580 I think it makes for a bad

01:30:32.960 Musical connection

01:30:33.700 I think you want to feel like a band

01:30:34.920 Hmm

01:30:35.500 Yeah

01:30:35.860 What makes that happen

01:30:37.360 I think

01:30:39.200 I mean

01:30:40.900 Bottom line

01:30:41.820 The way you treat people

01:30:42.700 You know

01:30:43.240 And you give people creative freedom

01:30:45.340 You let them play

01:30:46.000 The way they want to play

01:30:46.740 I think

01:30:47.100 If you stifle it

01:30:48.240 And

01:30:48.520 Sort of

01:30:50.400 Restrict people too much

01:30:51.920 It stops being fun

01:30:53.540 Do you know what I mean

01:30:53.980 I think people come

01:30:54.860 To see my show

01:30:56.080 To see that musical interaction

01:30:58.440 It's not just me playing

01:30:59.680 You know what I mean

01:31:00.220 I think it's weird sometimes

01:31:01.380 When

01:31:01.720 You see a solo artist

01:31:03.960 And their band

01:31:04.660 Is just kind of in the background

01:31:05.560 And

01:31:05.860 Not really part of the show

01:31:07.760 That's weird to me

01:31:08.600 Hmm

01:31:09.060 Yeah

01:31:10.160 What

01:31:11.760 Where'd you meet your gal at?

01:31:15.060 Like

01:31:15.460 What

01:31:16.840 25 years ago

01:31:19.220 Probably at home

01:31:19.820 No

01:31:20.300 Yeah

01:31:20.640 At home

01:31:21.240 What was she going door to door?

01:31:22.860 No she wasn't

01:31:23.980 But we were

01:31:24.560 We were

01:31:25.900 It's not your sister

01:31:26.780 It's our

01:31:27.440 No we grew up in the same area

01:31:28.900 And

01:31:29.300 Yeah it's a very like

01:31:30.900 It's a very sort of

01:31:31.940 High school sweethearts thing

01:31:33.160 Oh

01:31:33.740 That's

01:31:34.140 There is some romance

01:31:35.720 Right there then

01:31:36.480 Definitely

01:31:37.060 There's something romantic about that

01:31:38.560 It is

01:31:39.020 Yeah I guess Ireland

01:31:40.320 Makes me just think

01:31:41.120 Everything seems like

01:31:42.340 Fairytale over there a bit

01:31:45.260 Yeah

01:31:45.840 Sometimes too much

01:31:47.340 Certain movies and stuff

01:31:49.100 You know

01:31:49.560 Yeah

01:31:50.020 What was

01:31:50.500 I wonder if you're talking about

01:31:52.600 Gangs in New York

01:31:53.960 That one's kind of cool though

01:31:56.920 There was like

01:31:57.360 This movie recently

01:31:58.020 The Irish Wish

01:31:58.720 Or P.S. I Love You

01:31:59.600 Those types of things

01:32:00.360 They're terrible

01:32:01.140 Yeah

01:32:01.440 Get fucked

01:32:02.420 Yeah

01:32:02.980 If your wife

01:32:03.900 Yeah

01:32:04.200 If you found your wife

01:32:05.200 In a wishing well or something

01:32:06.400 You're out of your fucking mind dude

01:32:07.940 Could happen

01:32:08.620 You could do it

01:32:09.320 Hey look

01:32:10.020 That's true man

01:32:12.200 You need to go back

01:32:12.860 Oh yeah

01:32:13.700 Oh I want to go back so bad

01:32:15.340 I want to do a couple more spots there

01:32:17.700 Yeah

01:32:18.040 And maybe do one more

01:32:19.680 I think I owe a little bit better

01:32:21.660 Of a show to maybe Belfast

01:32:23.220 It was good

01:32:25.780 But I think I want to

01:32:26.460 You know

01:32:26.740 You just want to do it better

01:32:27.720 Yeah

01:32:28.180 I like the way you say

01:32:29.120 I tried my best

01:32:29.760 At the end of your shows

01:32:30.460 I think that's good

01:32:31.080 Yeah thanks man

01:32:32.160 I think I usually

01:32:32.980 I definitely

01:32:33.820 99% of the time

01:32:36.460 I feel that way

01:32:37.140 That I tried my best

01:32:38.040 Now the outcome sometimes

01:32:39.400 Yeah but then

01:32:41.040 That sentiment stands

01:32:42.700 Above everything right

01:32:43.400 Like even if it doesn't go

01:32:44.180 The way you want it to

01:32:44.820 Yeah

01:32:45.360 I tried my best

01:32:46.020 You know

01:32:47.120 Yeah

01:32:47.360 People appreciate it too

01:32:48.720 Yeah I think people appreciate it

01:32:50.740 I think so

01:32:51.560 That's probably a good point

01:32:52.540 What will you do

01:32:55.260 When you get back to Ireland

01:32:55.940 Like what's something

01:32:56.440 You look forward to doing

01:32:57.160 I will

01:32:57.920 Like

01:32:58.560 To write music every day

01:33:00.840 And to be like

01:33:02.380 In the studio every single day

01:33:04.200 I know it's a very privileged thing to say

01:33:06.300 But it's a very taxing thing

01:33:07.280 I get tired of it

01:33:08.100 So like I'll go

01:33:08.820 Just

01:33:09.260 Where I live is in the middle of nowhere

01:33:11.540 So I'll just be in the forest

01:33:12.380 Every day with the dog

01:33:13.220 Do you have a dog?

01:33:14.940 No I would like to get a dog

01:33:16.020 As soon as I quit touring

01:33:17.100 Yeah

01:33:17.700 In like seven months

01:33:18.840 I'm gonna try to get some kind of dog

01:33:20.040 It's the best thing I've done

01:33:20.980 Yeah

01:33:21.340 Oh man

01:33:21.980 Yeah it's just like a companion

01:33:23.160 It kind of

01:33:23.860 It's a nice injection of real life as well

01:33:26.380 In amongst all the weirdness

01:33:27.500 It's just nice

01:33:28.160 Like

01:33:28.620 And it's this thing that would die

01:33:30.320 If you didn't look after it

01:33:31.260 So it's kind of

01:33:31.860 It's a powerful feeling

01:33:32.980 You guys got a

01:33:34.140 Is it a staffie over there

01:33:35.340 What you got?

01:33:35.840 No teeny little scruffy terrier

01:33:37.560 No

01:33:38.180 Yeah

01:33:38.640 And it's

01:33:39.220 He's a rescue

01:33:39.640 Oh yeah

01:33:40.440 Yeah

01:33:40.800 Everything is in Ireland

01:33:41.960 Everything

01:33:42.440 I'm a rescue

01:33:43.160 Yeah

01:33:43.380 If he's a male is he?

01:33:44.840 He is male yeah

01:33:45.680 Oh yeah

01:33:46.180 He's still got his

01:33:47.700 Cajones

01:33:48.980 Well

01:33:49.600 He won't be using them

01:33:50.640 There's no girls

01:33:51.320 That's true

01:33:52.100 There's nothing

01:33:52.540 Yeah

01:33:52.920 I'll have to bring them to America

01:33:54.040 Yeah

01:33:54.760 Dermot Kennedy

01:33:57.400 Thanks so much man

01:33:58.300 Thank you very much

01:33:58.920 Thank you for having me

01:33:59.640 Yeah I appreciate it

01:34:00.320 Thank you for all the awesome music man

01:34:01.720 Thanks for like

01:34:02.360 Yeah

01:34:03.000 Just kind of sharing like

01:34:04.480 Whatever you can

01:34:05.800 To the best of your ability

01:34:06.960 Yes sir

01:34:07.520 That's

01:34:08.540 Kind of how I feel

01:34:09.520 When I listen to your stuff

01:34:10.460 And

01:34:10.680 Yeah I had a great time

01:34:12.100 Thanks for inviting me last night

01:34:13.240 And

01:34:13.400 Yeah thanks for the ticket dude

01:34:14.560 It was awesome

01:34:15.120 Not at all

01:34:15.480 Thanks for going

01:34:16.040 Thank you man

01:34:16.640 Yeah cheers on you bro

01:34:17.680 Now I'm just floating on the breeze

01:34:20.220 And I feel I'm falling like these leaves

01:34:23.180 I must be

01:34:24.300 Cornerstone

01:34:26.500 Oh

01:34:29.120 But when I reach that ground

01:34:31.080 I'll share this peace of mind

01:34:33.220 I found

01:34:33.900 I can feel it

01:34:35.260 In my bones

01:34:37.400 But it's gonna take

01:34:39.960 I swear to heaven

This Past Weekend with Theo Von - August 29, 2024

E528 Dermot Kennedy

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