E549 Koe Wetzel
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1 hour and 29 minutes
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203.98796
Summary
Country music legend Coe Wetzel's Wonderland, Chapter 2 is out now, and it's out on all streaming platforms. I caught up with him to talk about his new album, Nine Lives, and what it means to be a Country Music Star.
Transcript
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We hope you're enjoying your Air Canada flight.
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Fast-free Wi-Fi means I can make dinner reservations before we land.
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Wi-Fi available to Airplane members on Equipped Flight.
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I have some new tour dates to let you know about.
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And thank you to the fella in Montana that gave me this jacket.
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We've also got some new merch, some new gang gang tees in pepper and ivory.
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And we've got a new gang gang hat that giggity.
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Today's guest has never been afraid to speak his mind.
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And he has been a staple in country music and in Texas lore for many years.
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He's having a great year right now with his new album, Nine Lives.
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He's got a new Christmas EP, Wetzel's Wonderland, Chapter 2, out now.
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And I'm just grateful to spend time today and to catch up with him.
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I mean, I should not be allowed to be alive, dude.
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You ever just burn so many bridges down, you can't even take a step.
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Everything's a chimney when I come around someday when I'm like that.
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You think it's kind of like with the holidays and shit coming up too, or.
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And it's a lot of little things to do and suddenly a lot of just feeling like a little
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You know, I get too focused on what I need to get done.
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Sometimes I just got to hit an AA meeting or something or fucking.
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Dude, I'm glad they didn't come down with eight ball, the beverage or whatever.
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Coet Wetzelman, congrats on the new album, dude.
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They don't see the 10 years, 10 plus years, you know.
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You've played every place they would allow someone to play, really.
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Oh, I've seen places where, like, tomorrow this place is getting fumigated, right?
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They'll already be setting up the tent around it with the bug spray in it.
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We had, dude, there was this one run that we had.
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And it was like, we were playing VFWs and, like, firehouses and stuff.
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Well, there was, like, three places that we played.
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And within two months, I don't know if it was tax reasons or what, but all of them fucking
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Dude, it was almost like that white snake memorial tour, kind of.
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And it was kind of a joke around East Texas, but it was legit.
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It was always a VFW or a little cash grab or something.
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And then you get in there, and it's like, did you hear that place burned down last night?
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Like, I think we still have some drums in there.
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Bro, you can smell the kerosene as you pull it off down the road.
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They're just in the bag, just pulling wires and shit.
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You're talking about, yeah, getting your day back to brighter, man.
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Oh, we had a dude who had bought a bunch of, he made a bunch of 4th of July t-shirts,
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And they didn't get in until, they basically got in, like, on the night before.
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They're supposed to come in, like, two weeks early.
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And so on 4th of July, he's like, I got, I have basically eight or nine hours to pedal
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So he got, he was out there with a bike, with a little wagon.
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He was pulling, like, he was supposed to have a child in it or something, but it was just
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And he was out there just, just slinging them bitches.
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So he had about maybe 420 shirts left or whatever.
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But he did it, he did it near a fireworks display.
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And he said that some of the fireworks had landed in him.
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Hey, hey, man, that's a, gotta respect the hustle there, bro.
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Yeah, I bet he, he's got a lot, I bet he has a lot of, a lot of great ideas.
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Yeah, man, you're playing some different venues now.
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So that's kind of, that's kind of changed, huh?
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I mean, we've been doing like arenas for like the last two or three years, but it's just
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With this record, we kind of tapped into the, the mainstream kind of side of it, I guess.
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You know, we've always been independent and I mean, I guess, you know, coming out of Texas
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and you get toward Texas year round, you know, and, and make a damn good living.
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And it's pretty much what we've been doing, but, you know, over the last probably five
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years, you know, we've got out of Texas and got to play these, these crazy arenas and stuff.
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And it's cool to, to have people, you know, fuck with, fuck with the music, man.
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Fuck with what you're, what you're telling them, man.
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I haven't had time to like step back and actually look at it, you know, and, and kind
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of see where we're at, but it's, it's wild, man.
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I mean, I think there's a lot of that energy out of Texas where it's just like that, you
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You know, it's the same with guys like Parker over the years.
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They always have, you know, they support their own.
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And, you know, it's just such a, a cult following, you know, and, and we've been blessed to have
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those cult fan base that, that fan base for so long, you know, and, uh, is there like
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co-beef between like people, you know, like new fans and old fans, do you feel like?
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I think maybe, maybe a little bit, but I mean, like I said, they're so passionate and they're
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so, they're so like co-fans that, you know, I think they've, they've, uh, respond.
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I was kind of curious as to how they're going to take this new music that we put out.
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I think they dug it just, you know, cause we haven't really veered off from the shit
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we've been doing our whole, you know, whole career.
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Do you feel like, is there a part of you that feels like, cause I get like, if I have
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to do something that feels kind of mainstreamy to me sometimes, it, it makes me fucking angry.
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It's like, yeah, yeah, I don't, man, I'm not really just cause cause like I said earlier,
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It's just more, I guess on a bigger scale, kind of more, uh, I don't know, um, kind of
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Like to, to do all these interviews and, you know, just kind of get your story out there.
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So, I mean, it used to be, you know, get fucked up, go play music.
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And that was it, you know, write music, uh, throw down, party with everybody.
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And now it's kind of, all right, let's take a step back and calm everything down a little
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Your TikToks, you guys would be just fucked up out there eating dandelions and shit or
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I mean, you guys are doing a lot for the, for nature and everything out there.
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The, the, so last year's tour was the Hell Paso tour and it was balls to the wall.
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Uh, we didn't, and, but we had a couple of folks go to jail.
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Uh, but other than that, I mean, it was just chaos the whole time.
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And then this year with the damn near normal tour, um, they kind of like caged me a little
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But like, so after every show it was direct to the bus and then cop escorted out, like
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they wouldn't let me go out and party and stuff, which was great.
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I mean, the tour was great and stuff, but I felt like they were, uh, trying to settle
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Cause I mean, like I said, it's just kind of on a, a bigger scale than, than anybody
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And, uh, you know, I felt a whole lot better this tour and the shows were, were better in
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And, uh, but yeah, I mean, I guess it's, you got to grow up sometime, man.
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Oh, you can stay young and just be an old dude.
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And like, damn, that old dude is, uh, shouldn't be, you know.
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Like the fear, like, you know, like whenever it's just like you, you reminisce on all the
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Oh dude, going to bed early and laying there and just feeling like just even God knows
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And then you kind of get ready and you're like, oh, you start to feel a little bit bad.
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I feel like whenever you wake up next morning, you're like, no, good on you.
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That's like, if you got a little, a little oomph in your chest, like, hey, man.
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A natural oomph and not just where your heart's just burned out from just running over time.
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Dude, I remember when I first met you, I was like, cause I was like, I don't know if
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I had just like gotten like re-sober or something at the time.
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But I never got, and I remember when I met you and I was like, I gotta be careful around
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It might've been with Todd, with Todd, with, uh, Todd Graves.
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Dude, I was sober for three weeks going up there and then, bro, we're sitting in the suite
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with Todd and, like, me and Dre have been sober or whatever, and we're like, if we can make
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it through Super Bowl weekend, dude, we are, you know, we're, we're killing it.
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And I'm sitting there and Cersei from Lord of the fucking Ring, or not Lord of the Rings,
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And dude, we got, I mean, it was like 11 in the morning, and you know, you got all
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Coach O walks in from LSU, he's like, hey, what's going on, cuz?
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Yeah, that's when Burrow was playing the Super Bowl.
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I was like, this dude's fucking awesome, you know?
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Bro, and just rolling around, man, just having a great time.
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We get to the game, and I mean, it's just like, that red carpet, people were showing
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up, coming in, like, dude, I can't handle this shit, this is too much.
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And, you know, me being from small East Texas, I was like, what the fuck?
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There was a lot of fancy folks in there, too, dude.
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I wanted to fucking rob some of those fucking queers or whatever.
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And I don't, you can't say queers, but, so we'll pretend we didn't say it.
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Oh, and I just, yeah, I was like, because I was just trying to, I was just getting back
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on the grill or whatever, and I was like, I got to fucking.
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Well, I think, I think one of the times I met you, it was at Whiskey Jam, I think.
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And we were sitting there, each other, and we were like, yeah, I'm a fan of each other,
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And I remember you were like, there was a step right above me to what Muscadine Bloodline
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And I was like, you want to go to the bathroom right here?
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Well, look, I appreciate the, hey, I do appreciate the support.
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Yeah, hey, man, I was, my bad, that was, that was on me.
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Dude, I want somebody to fucking want to get me fucked up, dude.
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I want somebody to just hold me down and just fucking, just damn funnel, just yay into
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Man, but that is a, you know, that's Christmas wishing, you know?
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And when have you burned a couple of your lives?
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Because I'm trying to think, we had, let me think of a good night that happened to me
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Oh, dude, a guy overdosed or whatever one time and people were doing CPR on him.
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I'm like, that dude is just geeked out of his gourd, bro.
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Yeah, somebody hit him with an EpiPen, like he had a bee sting or something.
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I'm like, this dude got stung by an eight ball.
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This dude got stung by a warm gram and they're trying to put down Pepto-Bismol in him.
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Shit gets hairy and especially if you tore up like that, you don't know what the fuck's
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Well, everybody starts, I think I'm going to have one myself.
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Do you always feel like you had to party so much?
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My whole family likes to have a good time, man.
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So my parents were pretty strict with me growing up, you know, because.
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They knew the only way I was going to get out of Pittsburgh was to, you know, on a
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And so once I got to college, dude, it was like balls to the wall, like no pants, you
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know, get to college and just hammer down, man.
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And it just, I don't know, I guess it kind of just snowballed.
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And I don't know, I can drink with the best of them.
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And I've slowed down a whole lot, you know, this past couple of years, but I still, I
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still like to get out there and act up a little bit.
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I was always envious of people that could party, man, because I couldn't do it.
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I'd get a little too rattled and I'd just start fucking chewing on the fucking walls and
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You know, I'd just start fucking farming copper out of my own house, dude.
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I don't think I've ever called the cops on myself before.
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Oh, dude, I'll call the cops for anything, dude.
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Yeah, I remember I was at a UFC fight one night and the guys were beating each other
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so bad and I fucking called the cops right there from T-Mobile Arena.
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It was Dustin Poirier and Max Holloway were beating the shit out of each other.
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Yeah, I said, y'all got a male-on-male domestic down here.
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I said, these guys are fighting over jewelry down here because I think Winter got the
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So I was like, you got a male-on-male domestic down here, buddy.
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Oh, man, it was kind of, so the record was kind of like us kind of doing a new music
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You know, usually it's the party music, the crazy rock stuff.
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So this was just kind of the past, the other lives that I could have lived had I not been
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a musician, you know, or traveled down this road.
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So it's kind of just like a reflection on that.
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Yeah, and I've read that you wrote it pretty quick, like when it finally hit you.
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Like Gabe Simon, he always say it was like my first therapy session.
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But he like dug into my life, like into my soul.
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And it was like bringing out shit that I normally never tell like a stranger, you know.
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And it helped write the songs really fast, honestly.
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You know, it was one of the more vulnerable sides of me for sure.
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No, I mean, it was just like it was more raw and real than I feel like I'd ever been playing music.
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So, yeah, it was kind of like kind of turning a new page on, you know, not leaving the party behind,
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but just kind of me kind of growing up type shit.
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You're going to see me in the jail log tomorrow.
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Man, yeah, dude, a lot of all the good ones grow up, man.
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Yeah, because there's like, I mean, I love Jesse Murph.
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Yeah, I've been a Jesse Murph fan since before, I should admit, as an adult male.
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It was like very strange to tell people that you were a fan.
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Well, she's got the soul of like a 50-year-old, I feel like, or 60-year-old, 80.
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I remember whenever I first heard her, I was like, wait, how old is she?
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Like, she walks in the room, and it's just like her presence is so huge.
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And she's just this little bitty thing, dude, you know?
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And she's got that look in her eyes like she's just seen it all a million times.
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Yeah, she might be a refurb or whatever they call it, you know?
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I'll just be doing nothing or doing something that'll come out of me, dude.
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And I'm just like, I'm just kind of watching the football game.
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And I just hear you coming down singing high road.
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It's just wild when you get one that gets stuck in your head.
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And you can't get, yeah, it's just all day to them.
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But it's just like rehabberdashing, whatever happened in the past, you know?
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And the dad, I think that the dad, there's just a belief of mine.
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I believe that the dad had had some kind of inappropriate attraction to the child, maybe.
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The mother unalived the child, and then they together figured out the story, right?
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And neither one of them could rat the other one out because they both had some connection.
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The mother got envious, put the daughter, it was in all these pageants, all this weird
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The mother did it on purpose of her accident, and then they both had to help each other
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Did she, was she ever, she never served time or anything, did she?
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She ended up passing away at cancer, I believe.
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She's just in Nashville on Broadway every night.
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That's what she's singing, which is a little morose, we're just saying.
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I don't, did they have any good big criminals in y'all's town?
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Any big, any big crime going up over there in Pittsburgh, Texas?
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They said the Texas Chainsaw Massacre came through town, but you know, who knows?
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Yeah, I mean, he could have been going through.
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That could have been a guy just repairing two-stroke motors, too.
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No, they said Bonnie and Clyde came through, and one of the sheriffs there, I mean, Pittsburgh
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was, I mean, it's still, it's only like 4,000 people, but they said they called them ahead
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of time or let them know somehow via pigeon or some shit, and they were like, hey, get
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Yeah, and they rolled through, and nobody gave them shit.
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Because they hid out in, or they're from Dallas, I think, or somewhere around there.
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I think Clyde, he was a little bitty dude, too.
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Imagine taking those pictures back in the day, dude.
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Get over there with the photo, like the picture.
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It, like, goes off and, like, pull the trigger.
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On a Louisiana highway, and they still have that car.
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It's been 90 years since a posse of lawmen caught up with the outlaw couple Bonnie and
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They were ambushed and killed on a north Louisiana road, but their story is still very much alive
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in Gibsland, Louisiana, is where it occurred at Bonnie and Clyde.
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What kind of pieces of history from Bonnie and Clyde?
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What was Bonnie and Clyde's biggest heist, I wonder?
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The gang robbed the first national bank in Stewart, Iowa, in 1934.
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Damn, they weren't even as bad as some of the...
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Apparently, it was pretty spot on from everything.
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Do you like the history of the gangsters and stuff?
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What was that movie that had all those guys in it?
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I wouldn't do kidnapping because I don't want some dumb fucking kid around all the time.
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You're going to have to go to McDonald's all the time or whatever.
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So, yeah, I would do something with adults probably or...
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Just throwing up a dynamite in there and throwing it up.
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And there's some rich guy just eating in the window or whatever.
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Just shoot right through his Salisbury steak or something.
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But then you get in there and you have to look for the money.
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Like, a gunslinger back in the day, man, that'd be so sick.
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I was just reading about a lot of hookers and stuff that were on the...
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Like, whenever they had Gold Rush and stuff like that.
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Like, a lot of hookers started up some big madaming and stuff out there
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You know, they'd get other women to work for them and stuff like that.
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Ooh, you know what would be a good crime, I think?
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They have that stuff now where you can kind of...
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It's like, somebody sits in it and it's got the blades and stuff.
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It's like, how many beers do I need before I get in this thing?
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Especially if your buddy gets a hold of that remote for 30 seconds, dude.
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He's taking you right into some power lines, dude.
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Like, you would have done the same for me, buddy.
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Especially if you're wearing like a Vols jersey or something, he just takes you around.
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That's looking like something Kid Rock would buy.
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That thing runs on probably diesel or something.
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Or just runs on some of Kid Rock's bad music, too.
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You ever ready to cancel a show out there on tour?
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I think we didn't have to cancel any on this tour.
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And then whenever the hurricane came through, we had to cancel show.
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But last year during the Hell Paso tour, man, like I said, it was crazy.
00:35:15.060
I would just get, you know, the whiskey and everything.
00:35:22.980
But, you know, last year at the Hell Paso, dude, I was just, I get to a point where I couldn't talk, you know.
00:35:28.500
And I would just be giving it everything just to say a sentence or whatever.
00:35:39.420
As much as I love it, it's just, man, it's rough on me, man.
00:35:42.540
And, like, you know, I can drink tequila and not feel half as bad as I do with whiskey.
00:35:46.720
Well, your legs don't work as good in your neck.
00:35:50.360
Hey, dude, yeah, you get that 15-gallon head, bro, somebody just starts swaying back and forth.
00:35:56.560
Like, I hit the ground and bounce it up really quick and think that nobody noticed, but I'm so big.
00:36:00.980
And just shake shit off the wall and be like, what the fuck is up with this guy, dude?
00:36:18.920
So you guys do such a good job of sharing your journey, honestly, like on social media, dude.
00:36:23.680
I feel like you guys are just really earnest about everything that happens in y'all's world.
00:36:28.340
You know, a lot of people don't really operate that way.
00:36:30.280
You know, you guys are just really, I think, clear to your fans and stuff.
00:36:34.680
Do you feel like, and I think that alone kind of keeps you away from being like a mainstream
00:36:41.360
thing, you know, because you don't have a PR guy telling you this or telling you that.
00:36:45.840
And it's like, and with the fans, too, it's not like if I were to do something, it's kind
00:36:51.380
You know, they're like, oh, you know, fuck over doing that.
00:36:53.760
You know, it's, I mean, it's kind of been our thing from the get-go is kind of be ourselves.
00:36:58.820
You know, like we're not going to change for anybody.
00:37:01.240
We're not going to act like somebody that we're not, you know.
00:37:05.580
And, you know, people have kind of embraced us for doing that.
00:37:08.500
And that's kind of like, you know, puts us apart from other people, you know, I think.
00:37:15.820
I mean, some of it maybe wouldn't, would rather it not be out there.
00:37:29.880
And it's really the world that most people can relate to.
00:37:32.200
Who can relate to some type of perfect, polished fucking, that's unrealistic.
00:37:36.580
There's got to be some excitement a little bit, you know.
00:37:46.840
Yeah, you guys have always kind of been in like, and kind of put in this outlaw country
00:37:52.820
Do you feel like there's still a lot of outlaws in the business?
00:38:02.200
Man, yeah, I think there's some outlaws out there for sure.
00:38:06.440
Maybe not, maybe not that are as, you know, like maybe as big, I would say.
00:38:25.000
Paul Caughton, Paul Caughton is about as close to, do you know who Paul Caughton is?
00:38:53.780
Dude, you've got to, you've got to have him on, man.
00:38:56.120
He is, he is his own person and dude, he's a, he's a legend.
00:39:04.200
I think there's a lot of guys that still, I mean, in a weird way, there are, a lot of
00:39:09.180
people kind of do it their own way now because they make their own road.
00:39:12.880
Like with social media, especially in just filming your own content or behind the scenes
00:39:20.200
It's not like you need to have some big producer help you do it.
00:39:23.680
Like I've said before, like, I don't think the word outlaw is what it used to be.
00:39:28.260
You know, like, I think it's, it's kind of doing what you're talking about, just going
00:39:31.860
out and doing everything your own way, you know, paving your own road and just kind
00:39:38.200
You know, I think that's, ain't going to be considered as being an outlaw.
00:39:41.420
So, um, cause it's not, it's not the eighties anymore.
00:39:44.560
You know, we can't get, you can't get away with a whole lot of shit these days, man.
00:39:50.440
Dude, remember when they had fucking narcs and shit, dude?
00:39:52.800
Dude, first of all, the shittiest job you could get in high school was being a fucking
00:40:04.480
And it set it on the card and I was like, that's the one thing you can't put on the card, dude.
00:40:09.100
And then that dude would, like, he would try to arrest people at a party or something.
00:40:19.580
And then it would take the cops like three weeks to have a meeting with the kid or whatever.
00:40:28.740
I wish, uh, I could go back and think about like the Motley Crue days, like the eighties,
00:40:39.700
But yeah, I mean, you talk to guys like, um, like I remember my first concert I went
00:40:47.300
And he was like, um, I guess he was like a pedophile or whatever.
00:40:51.820
So he was just a guy we knew who was also a pedophile, but we didn't know that part.
00:40:59.880
He's like, I can get y'all tickets to Marilyn Manson.
00:41:05.360
And this dude, um, dropped us off there and we're the only people under age that were in
00:41:11.300
Like they, I think it was, it was probably an 18 show and like Manson, like cut open Twiggy
00:41:17.540
Ramirez or like one of his, uh, one of the other band members with a bottle, somebody
00:41:22.440
cut one of the band members, cut themselves open or cut another one open with a bottle
00:41:33.420
Dude, we're in the bathroom peeing and somebody goes, what are these kids doing in here?
00:41:38.260
And then somebody else from another stall goes, don't worry.
00:41:46.640
The first red flag should have been this dude just getting y'all Marilyn Manson tickets.
00:42:07.080
He was, he hadn't won awards or whatever, but he was, um, he was in the trenches or whatever.
00:42:18.600
That guy, we're up there with the, the father right there.
00:42:24.920
Um, oh, that's, that looks like, oh, that's a, yeah, that's a liberal.
00:42:44.860
That guy's just taking wagers on the jets, dude.
00:42:49.020
We have to take some of this out because we just accused a lot of guys being pedophiles.
00:43:03.780
I mean, so my mom played, uh, she do like old Opry houses and stuff like that.
00:43:10.100
She was, she was, she sang and, uh, just play with like a bunch of old drunk, uh, honky
00:43:16.240
I'll be that little shithead kid, like running up and down the halls, throwing popcorn at
00:43:21.500
So, I mean, I was, I was around, uh, music growing up, but I think my first actual concert
00:43:32.440
Uh, dude, he, uh, he's like a, he's Red Dirt King, man.
00:43:48.460
I think I was like sixth or seventh grade, maybe.
00:43:51.800
And, uh, these college girls come up to me like, Hey, what's going on?
00:43:56.180
And my cousin, her friend steps in and she's like, Hey babe, here's your beer.
00:44:01.040
And like, just trying to, to deter them or whatever.
00:44:03.580
And I take this beer and I hammer it and they're like, all right, whatever.
00:44:09.520
I'm like, so we get back to the hotel that night.
00:44:36.220
Him and yeah, cause he was him and Jelly Roll are friends.
00:44:41.320
That was really that white, um, sort of, uh, yeah, that Slamerican, that sort of fucking
00:44:56.880
I used to listen to Pop the Trunk before football games, man.
00:45:01.800
Oh, there's, I don't know if there is a better anthem, dude.
00:45:06.200
They even had, they had Jelly Roll out there, Yellow Wolf.
00:45:19.600
Yeah, it was just, it was a St. Bernard with a couple of face tattoos on him.
00:45:35.460
Well, we got to go meet him backstage after and, and, um, with his crew.
00:45:41.960
Who, who, who's out there on the road with the.
00:45:43.600
Listen, I mean, that's another ally right there.
00:45:51.260
Um, yeah, and you know, there's something also, there's something nice about when you have
00:46:03.260
That there's a real relationship between you and your fans.
00:46:06.860
Caitlin Curtis and Brianna Harness or Brianna Harness.
00:46:34.920
Well, some of you just, it's amazing who you see on Google of who you know.
00:46:49.140
Um, yeah, there's something nice about when something is, uh, still grassroots.
00:46:54.680
That you feel this weird thing, it's like, it's like your thing.
00:46:58.020
Yeah, and I feel like it gives the fans like a, a, a, more of a connection, you know, like.
00:47:14.380
The Wolf of Wall Street, when they're sitting there.
00:47:23.160
I think this is whenever we're talking about the little people, strapping them to the
00:47:30.780
When was, that would have been early nineties, late eighties?
00:47:34.520
Oh dude, if I was, if I was backed in, I would have definitely been doing, I'm not going to
00:47:40.300
I'll spell it real quick in case there's any kids listening to the cars anywhere.
00:47:58.200
It's like, it's like, and it's only for like a little bit, like five years at a time,
00:48:07.760
I mean, just like, like train robbing or like robbing shit or whatever, or, you know,
00:48:12.860
partying really fucking hard in the eighties and then just slowing down and.
00:48:16.820
People part, I just, I wonder who partied the hard.
00:48:38.420
Imagine being famous and then also being good looking.
00:48:45.920
I think Tommy was, he was really young too, right?
00:48:50.440
Imagine having all that, all that going on at 21, 20, bro.
00:49:00.000
Like Columbia, people from Columbia or whatever, the ambassador, they're always sending me
00:49:08.120
I'm like, dude, they're like, we'll give you five free tickets to Columbia.
00:49:20.920
They said it's actually really nice to go to these days.
00:49:26.540
I just think they want to do ransoms or whatever.
00:49:35.660
Dude, if I even grew up in Columbia, I would get an eight ball for like my seventh birthday.
00:50:13.860
Waco is where, so when Parker was on, he told you this story about that strip club or whatever
00:50:21.680
No, it's the shittiest strip club in the world.
00:50:24.440
Is that the best one you've ever been to, you think?
00:50:42.200
And I was like, man, fuck one of these mirrors, bro.
00:50:45.600
Dude, I found the pictures that he was talking about, like us kicking holes in the drywall.
00:50:52.440
And so somebody had found him and sent him to me.
00:50:58.720
And it's just, it's kind of like passed out next to him, like drywall everywhere.
00:51:08.900
Oh, in Shreveport, Louisiana, they had a strip club.
00:51:11.240
And they had a woman in there just built like a damn cenotaur or whatever.
00:51:23.620
I don't remember which one it is, but one of them.
00:52:04.180
They had the little sticker on them with like this on the top of a ladder.
00:52:21.420
You know what's kind of sad is you go to clubs, and over the years, they close down.
00:52:36.240
I mean, it's kind of everywhere in Louisiana, East Texas.
00:52:39.520
Like, you know, unless they're established or a big chain.
00:52:50.720
Every time I went to like the mall and somewhere nice to eat or whatever, we'd have to go to Longview to go, so.
00:53:02.660
I'm like, I'm north of New Orleans about one hour.
00:53:07.720
About 4,000, about the same time, same size as your town.
00:53:21.560
There was just enough people to make things interesting.
00:53:25.180
Like you knew everybody, but the select few you didn't know.
00:53:40.200
He might have been mentally disabled or something.
00:53:44.740
And, but his bike had a baby seat on the back of it.
00:53:49.100
So there was this story that like he had a kid that had like gone missing or whatever.
00:53:55.320
It was like a sad man whose wife had left him after the baby had been missing or whatever.
00:54:03.300
And it was like people would like pray for him when he drove by or whatever.
00:54:11.900
And then years later we found out he's just a mentally handicapped guy.
00:54:14.340
And somebody had gotten him a, um, a used bike that had a baby seat on it off the side.
00:54:21.780
And we were like, brother, we fucking gave that dude a lot of dessert.
00:54:33.140
He would always be like in the distance, like looking at us.
00:54:35.360
Like when we got off the school bus, I think he just wanted, yeah, I think he just wanted buddies, you know?
00:54:49.920
So you come up with all these different, you know, scenarios and stories and shit.
00:54:53.480
And then it's kind of like, it just becomes like a big fable.
00:54:58.840
But you have a town that's just big enough to support that kind of, where there's like just enough room for rumors to happen.
00:55:05.400
You can't get away with like the gossip all over, the drama, all that shit like that.
00:55:09.580
And I remember when I was a kid, you would hear like an older kid's name.
00:55:12.260
Like he was like two years older, three or four years older.
00:55:15.120
And you were like, oh, that's the toughest guy in the whole world.
00:55:27.040
Yeah, you said your parents were kind of strict growing up.
00:55:29.740
And were they two-year siblings as well, or just you?
00:55:36.300
Dude, I was kind of a little shithead growing up, man.
00:55:39.320
I mean, but like, I mean, I was always well-mannered, you know, I mean.
00:55:50.360
You were one of the, you were by far one of the guys anywhere.
00:55:54.380
I have never heard anyone say anything uncomplimentary about Coe Wetzel.
00:56:04.500
Except for Gary Dale just whooping the shit out of me.
00:56:06.740
But no, like, I mean, I guess as like a little kid, I was kind of a turd.
00:56:11.160
Because, I mean, I was the only kid until I was eight years old.
00:56:14.420
So, you know, I didn't know no better, you know.
00:56:16.200
And then Presley came up and my younger sister Zoe.
00:56:26.720
Well, yeah, whenever it happened, I was like, fuck, bro.
00:56:40.100
And then Zoe Kay, they just let her run ragged, bro.
00:56:54.440
I think you're going to be one of the first Wetzels to graduate college.
00:57:11.300
I think she's got, like, a couple semesters left.
00:57:25.380
She got her associates in Texas Tech, at Texas Tech, and then.
00:57:38.240
Yeah, and so, now she's just finishing on nursing school.
00:57:52.960
Be the Carmelo Anthony in nurses, you know what I'm saying?
00:57:59.300
Yeah, try to get some scripts, you know what I mean?
00:58:05.260
Yeah, I'm sick of buying this shit that's been stepped on.
00:58:21.540
Okay, so if my back gets bad on the road, I can just use them.
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Were your parents kind of like, were they like, okay, Coe, what are you doing here, buddy?
01:00:38.720
You need to get you a, you need to fill out an application somewhere, Bubba.
01:00:43.800
Or were they, how did they, how have they supported your music over the years?
01:00:47.920
Yeah, I mean, they've always been super supportive.
01:00:50.200
But obviously, you know, them being parents, they were like, I remember whenever I was in,
01:00:58.200
And so, you know, and, and they like to, they like to come in and check on me like once a
01:01:07.360
And so I'm living basically in a garage on a couch in a garage at one of my buddy's house.
01:01:13.680
And they like, they like come in and it's like, and I'm, I'm, I was sick for some reason.
01:01:20.320
I had like the flu or something, but I don't have no money to go get no meds.
01:01:24.460
And they're like, oh, we're coming up and they walk in this garage and there's like
01:01:38.780
They're like, well, this is not going to happen anymore.
01:01:40.580
But I was too, I was too proud to be like, to ask them for money and shit, you know,
01:01:44.580
because I just, I didn't want to go that route.
01:01:51.800
And this was kind of like, had you graduated or no, you were just taking a break?
01:01:58.920
And so, uh, this is like two or probably three years, probably 2014 ish.
01:02:04.380
Uh, and we're, you know, we're traveling, we're making, we're not making great money,
01:02:07.920
but we're making enough for me to pay rent on a couch in the garage.
01:02:12.360
And so they were like, you know, my dad, he's working construction.
01:02:19.180
A couple of years, you know, you can be a superintendent.
01:02:24.740
But, you know, and I've got buddies that are out in the oil field, you know, making damn
01:02:29.060
And it's just, it was kind of a shitty, shitty time in my life.
01:02:32.300
But I think that kind of, that stuff right there is kind of what helped build me to what
01:02:37.820
You know, it made me, you know, hard shelled, you know, um, and it kind of makes me appreciate
01:02:44.120
everything that I've got going on now a little bit more, you know, having to go through
01:02:47.900
But, uh, yeah, my parents, they were like, this is, this is not cool.
01:02:53.660
Like, if you're going to do it, you know, do it.
01:02:55.300
So, uh, man, they've been super supportive the entire time.
01:03:00.140
Do you have any songs that are like about your mother or dad or anything like that?
01:03:06.440
I've got a shit ton of songs, so I'll probably write one now.
01:03:11.340
They'll be like, no, we don't have a fucking song about us.
01:03:16.680
Cause sometimes it's interesting where people find, how they find, it's kind of hard to
01:03:19.920
write a song, like, you know, like you see a lot of songs that are kind of love ballads,
01:03:24.080
But it's hard to write one that, um, uh, Morgan has that one.
01:03:33.820
Um, and I think there's a lot of people out there that want to have that, have a song
01:03:39.120
It's like, there's not really that son to mother song out there.
01:03:47.180
You know, like, I feel like those songs are hard to write.
01:03:54.520
I mean, I've, I've mentioned my parents in songs before, but I just haven't wrote a song
01:04:01.880
But it's just, yeah, I never really thought that it's kind of tough to create.
01:04:08.580
I think a Morgan's just was because it did, uh, yeah, you just don't hear it that much.
01:04:11.940
Oh, it brings home for, I mean, pretty much everybody, you know.
01:04:16.620
Yeah, we did, uh, AT&T with them, uh, this year, bro.
01:04:22.360
I was like, man, I appreciate you having me out.
01:04:24.980
To any of the shows would have been great, but to play Cowboys Stadium, you know, Cowboys
01:04:30.760
Uh, and so just dude, bro, I got out there and like, that's kind of what I was like.
01:04:36.880
I couldn't even like comprehend what was going on the whole time.
01:04:39.620
I'm just like staring around and looking, trying to take it all in, bro.
01:04:47.820
You know, I can't thank Morgan enough for having us.
01:04:50.400
Yeah, it's so, just to be able to do that, dude, that's so crazy to have that moment
01:04:58.540
It was just like, you just like kept, like, I never even been on the field before, right?
01:05:02.300
Like, you just kept looking at like people all the way up.
01:05:06.080
I was like, you know, I've been kicked out of the stadium a few times.
01:05:08.700
So this was, we had to get a couple signatures to get me in over there.
01:05:23.120
I know that you had an audience that was outside of Texas for sure.
01:05:25.460
I know you have a, have had a strong grassroots audience for a long time and, and even bigger
01:05:29.900
I don't mean to use those terms to sound like it isn't, you know what I'm saying?
01:05:37.040
But now have you found that you've, you're touring places that are outside of places you
01:05:41.900
Cause that's when things are like, wow, this is kind of crazy.
01:05:45.220
And I mean, we've been doing it for, for a while, you know, outside of Texas.
01:05:49.020
Cause I think we got outside of Texas probably 17, 18.
01:05:52.940
But I mean, even now, whenever we go to, to new places that are sold out, it's kind of
01:05:58.140
You know, you kind of step back and you're like, shit, this is, uh, it's pretty wild.
01:06:02.400
But, uh, yeah, it's, I mean, we just got done with Europe.
01:06:10.380
You'll go to Manchester, London, Manchester, London, uh, Glasgow, uh, all of Leeds.
01:06:28.680
We did acoustic, an acoustic run over there back in like 2018.
01:06:34.320
And so a lot of the fans were like, we're, we're fans of the older music, you know, like
01:06:38.860
they, they dug on the new stuff, but like they were singing everywhere.
01:06:48.900
We got to get back in like the smaller rooms too.
01:06:53.360
We'll be there in March, I think, really in March.
01:07:03.300
You can just rent like these beach cruiser bikes, you know, or just like these motorized
01:07:07.900
And we rented some and they, um, you can take them out on the beach and literally it, there's
01:07:14.140
the most beautiful beach and nobody's out there and you're just, just ripping these
01:07:19.140
And I just heard it's kind of like Texas, honestly, like, like Australia and Texas have
01:07:33.580
The fuck there and the people and the women are, and everybody's good over there.
01:07:43.040
And when I was over there, we went and saw one night, we saw, um, Matchbox 20 and Goo
01:07:48.300
We popped over there and checked that out for a little bit.
01:07:50.780
We went to a, uh, Fred again, show over there, DJ, he's a DJ.
01:08:04.620
I might go to Sydney and Perth or if, if, if we're able to.
01:08:07.220
Dude, you have to be on my friend, Sean and Marley.
01:08:20.860
We're trying, we're, we're, we're hoping to get a couple more shows over there.
01:08:25.600
You need to go on my buddy, Sean and Marley show, dude.
01:08:54.520
I didn't know they were, I didn't know they were in Australia.
01:09:13.760
You and Marley look a little bit like, I look like Sean.
01:09:23.120
Oh, that guy's getting, I call the fire department.
01:09:34.620
But I didn't think it was that hot to be honest with you.
01:09:41.260
One of them, it's more like, uh, it's not really a sauce.
01:09:44.320
It's more like something you clean the bathroom with.
01:09:46.560
I'm like, hey, y'all are fucking cheating right here.
01:09:50.600
Well, I saw like, they saw it for like Tepetillo and, and shit like that.
01:09:59.460
And in some of it, you're like, oh, they're using this to take rust off of the, uh, tire
01:10:08.580
What's like the hot, like what is, what's an area of Texas that you think has the best
01:10:13.740
Um, either Austin, San Antonio's got some really good food, man.
01:10:19.680
Like, San Antonio, Mexican food, San Antonio for sure.
01:10:38.000
Man, it's, uh, I think they want to keep it a mystery, man.
01:10:47.500
Uh, we haven't, but I mean, it's like, they, they tell you not to, to go over there or whatever.
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But I had a buddy, he went over there like a month ago or a month, two months ago.
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And he was like, yeah, we just walked across and went and ate and had a couple of beers
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Like, but, uh, yeah, man, El Paso, we, we record out there in Tornillo, just south of El Paso.
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And, uh, it's a great time with food out there.
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Best, best Mexican food you'll probably ever eat.
01:11:24.380
Uh, what, um, what do you think about now with, with music kind of moving forward?
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Like, I mean, you guys are touring off of Nine Lives now.
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And then like, do you start to think about, what do you kind of think about?
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I know you have a Christmas album that's coming out.
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Um, we have it coming out here in a couple days, I guess.
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Um, and then, uh, January, man, just came back in the studio.
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We'll start writing tomorrow for that, actually.
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And then, uh, January, man, just came back in the studio, trying to do the same thing,
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Um, yeah, just that, uh, we've got a lot of festivals this year coming up.
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Um, and then, I don't know, a couple surprises.
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It was, and this year went by so fucking quick.
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Maybe that's another part of getting older, but I just feel like it was New Year's Eve,
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and now we're back at Christmas again, you know?
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I think people are living fast, too, because of COVID or whatever.
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I think people are, like, trying to live as much as they can.
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But it was, I just looked up, and I was like, because the tour went by.
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I mean, we were on the road for three months, and it went by super quick, you know?
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And I was looking forward to Europe, and then Europe went by quick.
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Just getting back out there, putting out some more music, trying to, you know, keep the fans happy.
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It's kind of weird how even, like, you could be dreaming or hoping about something, and it's, like, the most important thing in the world.
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Now what do I got to look forward to, you know?
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It's just kind of, yeah, like, I'm always pinning, like, my, not necessarily my happiness, but, like, I'll be pinning, like, a lot of my excitement on one day or one moment.
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And there's such a buildup of it, but then once it's gone, it's just, like, it never even happened.
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And then once it's there, try to, you know, relish it for as long as you can, and, but it goes by so quick.
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They got to get you on game day down there, man.
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Dude, they called literally the night before, like, 10 o'clock, like, you want to come on tomorrow?
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Yeah, they should have you down there next year on that, either that Red River rivalry or the Texas versus A&M.
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I think that was the, I think it was the first time in, what, like, 11 or 12 years that they played.
01:14:42.360
Because Texas, I feel like if, say, if there's, like, people start to divide off into their own states, that's going to be the state a lot of people are going to want to go live in.
01:14:49.500
Well, hell, like, everybody's starting to move down.
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You know, you got all these people from California.
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You know, everybody's moving to Nashville as well.
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I need to get just, I want to be closer to, like, a, yeah, I just, I would like to have, to be able to be in both places.
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Because I find myself, I've had an apartment in Los Angeles for a while for this whole year.
01:15:21.220
It's, yeah, I think being able to bounce back and forth from here and there would be dope.
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You can still get mugged a little while I like that.
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Still, yeah, you still got to hold on to your wallet.
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If there ain't no crime, the food ain't that good.
01:15:40.120
You got to have good, you got to have crime to have food.
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Yeah, we're going to do, what did you, Cam had asked me about doing the inch, the 12
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No, yeah, I was, I was going to have you read it, but I was, I should have thought about
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Because I don't know if I had to go to a studio or something.
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No, I hit him up and I was like, man, this is kind of last notice.
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If you do one next year, I'll be happy to do it.
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Because I wanted to find a way to make it funny, but I was just like, I'm fucking burnt
01:16:19.420
I was like, man, he was like, well, what's kind of like the overall deal?
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I was like, just tell him to be himself, you know, I just wanted you to read.
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And he went in there and did his, did his like Texas draw and shit on it.
01:16:39.140
Oh, dude, he's a very famous songwriter, isn't he?
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I met him years ago with Charles Kelly, I think at some event that they had, Josh Kelly
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Well, he, he got in there and he read it like he was reading it to his grandchildren or some
01:17:06.280
Well, if you guys need somebody next year, man, I was going to say otherwise, we could just
01:17:17.240
It's just like, I heard some of the ones from last year.
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I saw like you guys had a cool animation that was online.
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Like you in the back of a Santa sleigh and stuff.
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It's just like, just some like reimagined songs.
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Like we just, basically like covering them up and just making them ours.
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It kind of gives us something to do at the end of the year because we're not, usually
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So it just kind of gives us reason to, and it's, you know, it's something that people
01:17:51.600
Do you, when you start thinking about like, what are things you feel like are missing
01:18:08.980
I mean, you just hit such a neat place in your career.
01:18:22.280
You know, I think not having the, maybe the alone time or whatever it is, you know, just
01:18:30.820
I was with Bobby and them earlier and we were talking about it and that was kind of one of
01:18:35.600
It's just, I like, I like being, like I'm a loner, you know, and cause I'm always surrounded
01:18:40.320
around people and stuff, but I like to have the time to myself just to kind of relax and
01:18:54.360
Sometimes it doesn't have to be, you know, sometimes I'll, I'll like, I feel like I always
01:19:01.620
And then I'm kind of setting myself up for failure in a little bit of a way cause I'm always
01:19:06.800
Yeah, that could be a, that could be a problem, but I mean, uh, but sometimes when, when life
01:19:12.300
is as good as you think it is, maybe it's not, you know, so I don't know.
01:19:16.840
Do you, I, I, it must be inspiring to see your career evolve, continue to evolve, right?
01:19:22.540
And grow your fan base, continue to grow because then you start thinking, well, what can I do?
01:19:27.440
You know, like, not that you don't think that before, but you're like, okay, how can I challenge
01:19:34.420
I've got, I've got here, you know, where else could I go?
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That's kind of interesting, you know, cause you don't know what this looks like until
01:19:43.340
Well, I'll find myself like getting into things that, you know, just that I probably would
01:19:48.700
never have got into and be like, well, maybe that would be a cool, cool, like say acting
01:19:58.860
We've been doing the, the bar deal and riot, uh, right room.
01:20:05.160
Well, we're, whenever we're touring through there, I think if we don't go through Dallas,
01:20:14.200
It's, uh, it's kind of like a honky tonk during the day with food.
01:20:17.980
And then by nine o'clock it turns into a club, man.
01:20:21.200
It's like a Texas club, I guess, like a cowboy club.
01:20:38.120
We, uh, we're, we just opened up a second location, or about to, in Houston.
01:20:48.700
Like, I'd have to open up a place where people kind of cry about how they feel every now
01:20:55.320
I was like, I just want a place I can go fucking party and not have to worry about going to
01:20:59.660
Like, like nobody can kick me out of the motherfucker.
01:21:07.280
Maybe sometimes I need to kick myself out of there, bro.
01:21:33.400
It's, uh, you know, I never thought, I never considered, like, thought that I'd have a bar or
01:21:37.660
whatever, but, um, got in with the right people and just kind of, I don't know, it's been,
01:21:44.540
Especially in Texas, especially in your space, you know?
01:21:47.260
Yeah, we didn't, uh, we had talked about putting in one here in Nashville and I was
01:21:51.640
like, uh, I'm not stepping on nobody's toes, you know?
01:21:56.400
I'm, uh, I'm gonna stick to what I know down here in Texas.
01:22:01.560
I think about that sometimes, too, like about getting involved in certain stuff.
01:22:04.480
You don't want to act like it's your place just because you're there.
01:22:11.700
I've seen, uh, Jelly Roll, is he putting in one?
01:22:31.740
I feel like they're, they're not just like, they're just like seeing how many, how many
01:22:39.000
Barge Marquis sign will be yellow and black, including a skull wearing a crown of Nashville
01:22:56.660
I want to, if you have a, if you've ever been, if you've ever fallen asleep in a fucking
01:23:02.920
UPS van, if you were raised in the back of an Oscar Mayer Wayne vehicle, if you've ever
01:23:10.380
gotten head lice from, from bad head, if you've ever popped the pimple on the back of a long
01:23:17.320
haul trucker, if you've ever given head in the front seat of a Peterbilt, if you've ever
01:23:24.840
had your legs fall asleep on the shitter of a Love's gas station toilet, you could win
01:23:35.940
Dude, by the way, Jelly, Jelly gives the best hugs in the world, bro.
01:23:41.020
Every time he sees you, like, he just, like, picks you up and it's like, Jelly, man, this
01:23:46.060
Yeah, if you're having a shitty day, get a hug from Jelly Roll, bro.
01:23:56.280
Hey, instead of all the other good that you're doing around the world, you need a hug station,
01:24:10.620
Or you can pay $2 and get a little bit more of a hug.
01:24:25.460
He's just like a conduit, you know, for, I feel like for love, really.
01:24:31.720
It's like his whole aura, his whole presence, everything about him.
01:24:48.880
Um, and yeah, you guys are going to be touring for how long?
01:24:52.800
Uh, yeah, we're doing a bunch of like festivals and stuff.
01:24:55.380
And then, uh, hopefully getting a tour in towards the end of the year, maybe.
01:25:06.940
And any new songwriters you want to work with or anything like that?
01:25:09.940
I know you, one night I called you and Ernest were working together sometime.
01:25:13.500
And I think we were out in El Paso whenever you could.
01:25:14.960
Y'all were fucking, he said he saw an alien or something.
01:25:20.040
I don't fucking peyote and everything else out there, bro.
01:25:25.460
I mean, we, uh, I've started co-writing with a lot of people, man.
01:25:28.980
And this last record was the first time that I'd done it.
01:25:33.360
I think it's kind of, just kind of open to brand new ideas and stuff, man.
01:25:37.120
Just trying to, you know, do, do what's best for us.
01:25:42.300
Like, is that a tough thing to, to, to change, to do as an artist to like, um, think, okay,
01:25:46.620
I'm going to co-write or I'm not, or is that, do you like have certain like kind of rules
01:25:50.620
for yourself and then those change or do you not have any rules for yourself?
01:25:53.600
It was at first to start with the co-writers because I've wrote, you know, my first four
01:26:00.060
And then, uh, so to get into co-writing was kind of a hard ordeal.
01:26:07.140
I feel like it's, uh, it's easier on me, especially with the headspace I'm, I'm in and so much that's
01:26:13.140
going on and, uh, it helps to have other people's ideas, you know, outside, uh, outside looking
01:26:19.060
So, um, yeah, man, it's, it's been a lot of fun.
01:26:22.560
Like I said, with Gabe Simon and all those, all those bad-ass, all these bad-ass artists
01:26:36.200
He works with, uh, Noah, Noah Kahn and, uh, a couple other.
01:26:48.560
That is not the guy that I met, but I would like to meet him sometime.
01:27:00.040
It was a different Gabe that I believe played with Dermot Kennedy over there.
01:27:03.660
We went to the, uh, uh, Bluebird over there and watched him play.
01:27:09.680
Well, I just think that's interesting because yeah, it's like, I always want to do things
01:27:18.340
And so then I'm like, now I have to evolve a little bit.
01:27:21.240
I think, uh, and I've always been like, I hate to ask people for help on anything like
01:27:27.020
But sometimes, you know, I mean, it, uh, well, you kind of got to push your pride aside
01:27:36.140
And then that's the times when you really kind of things, you get better, you know?
01:27:39.960
Usually when I end up including other people and then I'm not doing anything alone.
01:27:42.820
I think that's the thing that's, that's a bummer.
01:27:45.440
Sometimes I think about like, it's not like, I think sometimes I would like to get married,
01:27:51.220
I said that, but I think it's because otherwise you do stuff and you don't have anybody to tell
01:27:57.480
You're like, oh, I just, this was fun, but it was by myself.
01:28:02.680
And then your wife, one day your wife or whatever is going to be like, shut up.
01:28:07.500
Will you please stop telling me about this shit?
01:28:19.540
We look forward to just hearing more music and just watching your journey, man.
01:28:24.340
Don't do all, don't, don't do it all overnight.
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New Christmas, Christmas album out now and his album Nine Lives.
01:28:38.160
I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves.
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Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind.