This Past Weekend with Theo Von - Ocean Rower Lia Ditton ｜ This Past Weekend #126

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00:03:17.200 Today's guest is attempting to be the first woman ever to row a boat across the Pacific Ocean.

00:03:29.440 And that seems super intense. 0.80

00:03:34.180 She's an author.

00:03:35.740 She is really quite a damsel, I think.

00:03:39.520 she is um she's a yachts woman she's a captain uh she is my guest today miss leah ditton

00:03:48.780 all right leah ditton what's up uh very well thank you good and so you flew you flew in

00:04:09.340 you live in san francisco now i drove down okay you drove i this time right but i rode down in

00:04:15.060 the summer you did i did and so what's the difference because to drive here if i want to

00:04:18.800 drive up to san fran it takes me probably maybe seven hours six hours or something um it's what

00:04:26.780 so rowing is what it took me 12 and a half days days to santa barbara and then three days onto

00:04:33.300 redondo beach okay wow and do you stop at like a bar like a like do you pull over like when how do

00:04:40.560 you or not a bar but do you pull over and like no no take everything with you that you need to

00:04:47.260 survive right in fact i arrived in santa barbara with no food nothing at all no and so are you

00:04:52.780 planning it out like when you take a trip do you plan to show up with nothing can you hear okay

00:04:56.140 she can bring it just oh yeah it'll swing all the way towards you yeah real close yeah

00:05:01.160 um it do you like do you plan that when you're rowing well you'd like to come in with some

00:05:08.720 spare you do but i was thinking it would take 10 days and it took 12 and a half to santa barbara

00:05:15.380 okay and oh wow it's a long extra time it's a little extra yeah because that's six or seven

00:05:22.100 meals extra yeah so i didn't go hungry but i was going to be hungry quite soon right and it was a

00:05:28.000 stress that started i started to feel about halfway through the trip going oh no you know

00:05:32.680 really and it's uh it's it makes it really edgy you know now you wake up that little bit earlier

00:05:39.200 you put in that little bit of extra effort ah but it was a real test right because i'm training to

00:05:44.740 row from japan to san francisco right and that could take four to six months but equally it

00:05:50.280 could take eight months if i don't wake up that little bit early and put in that little bit extra

00:05:54.820 and plan ahead right so to have that edge of of being kind of possibly hungry soon yeah so yeah

00:06:01.680 so you get that i'm sure it's like that feeling of almost like anything if you get lost on a

00:06:05.680 hiking trail it's probably a similar feeling where it's like oh man i thought there's going to be

00:06:09.480 two mile hike and i took a different route and now it's six miles and so you know suddenly it's like

00:06:14.680 you know the day is different and you have to kind of prepare a little bit differently and

00:06:18.920 you have to wake up you're just more alert i bet yeah you realize that you have finite resources

00:06:23.420 yeah and that you need to manage those carefully and when you feel like something like that happens

00:06:27.380 do you feel like that's almost like an innate thing that happens inside of us that like there's

00:06:31.620 like bells and whistles that go off inside of us that are like it's not even like i notice if i'm

00:06:38.300 hungry i'm a lot more alert you know or i'm a lot more clear i feel like i'm i can be frantic at

00:06:44.220 certain points but i'm also a lot i'll get things done a lot faster yeah i mean it really was no

00:06:51.140 drama right because essentially you could go to uh monterey you could go to san luis obispo right

00:06:56.900 you can pull in anywhere yeah but then on a bigger trip though you can't pull in right you can't pull

00:07:02.020 no and if if you if you go hungry there's an international rule of the sea which is that

00:07:07.160 another ship in the area will divert to help you oh that's nice so they will drop off whatever they

00:07:12.400 want to give you right basically oh wow have you ever had that happen it's really funny you ask

00:07:18.300 because we came quite close to a ship in uh the north atlantic so i'm a captain right that's what

00:07:23.640 i do and then every four or five years i i do my own crazy project oh i see so yeah i thought you

00:07:28.840 i mean i pictured you and um for our listeners that don't know uh leah is an author and a um

00:07:34.760 what is the correct term i saw i've seen yacht woman written a uh it depends what country you're

00:07:41.320 Oh, really? 0.99

00:07:41.480 So in England, you're a yachtswoman.

00:07:43.120 Yachtswoman.

00:07:43.620 Very posh, yeah.

00:07:44.280 Okay, yeah.

00:07:44.900 But in America, you're a captain.

00:07:46.840 Really?

00:07:47.240 I kind of like better.

00:07:48.360 Yeah.

00:07:48.860 But you have captain.

00:07:49.420 Where are you, a pirate?

00:07:50.380 Well, you have captain in your name.

00:07:51.880 That's true.

00:07:52.400 That's true, my middle name.

00:07:53.560 That's true.

00:07:53.600 You were born a captain.

00:07:56.240 And I don't even like to swim.

00:07:57.360 I'm not that good on the water.

00:07:59.500 And you haven't circumnavigated the globe.

00:08:03.060 No.

00:08:03.380 But you have gone across the Atlantic.

00:08:06.360 Nine times.

00:08:07.400 Right.

00:08:07.680 The Indian Ocean, three times, the Pacific twice.

00:08:09.960 So you've been out there.

00:08:11.360 Yeah, I like it out there.

00:08:12.940 It's a good start if you're going to do something like I'm about to.

00:08:16.020 And you're rowing.

00:08:17.420 This time.

00:08:17.920 Let me feel your hands.

00:08:18.240 Can I feel your hand?

00:08:18.840 Yeah.

00:08:20.880 Oh, I thought it would be real tougher. 1.00

00:08:22.960 Well, I have this hand cream that the Norwegian fishermen use. 1.00

00:08:26.260 Oh, really? 0.99

00:08:27.000 Yeah, it's my secret.

00:08:27.740 The men use it too?

00:08:29.320 Well, it was created for the Norwegian fishermen.

00:08:31.320 Oh, wow.

00:08:32.340 So I guess so.

00:08:33.160 That's really cool.

00:08:33.460 I could see them using it.

00:08:34.820 If I were out there, I'd probably go through a little bit of it, you know?

00:08:37.720 Well, you need to preserve their hands.

00:08:39.680 these are your tools yeah it's important so when you get out there so so how long so this is you

00:08:46.960 said it could be up to four months or eight months your trip you're crossing right four to six months

00:08:51.340 okay and i'm gonna take food for five okay there are two men have done it solo they were both

00:08:58.260 french and one took 134 days and the other the 137 and then the next one took 134 but they both

00:09:05.980 got towed in to land really and so do you so technically they didn't make it well that's what

00:09:11.300 i would think is that what you think well i mean i mean if you've rode 6 000 miles and you get

00:09:16.920 towed the last 20 you have to hand it to the first guy at least right that's a good point but the

00:09:21.860 second guy he got towed 50 miles and he got towed he was like i'm gonna draw a line down line of

00:09:28.100 longitude from where he finished and call that my finish and then he got towed 50 miles but he was

00:09:34.360 you know suave good-looking french guy with a watch sponsor and so french you know and his pr

00:09:39.540 company went into bat for him oh no you can't expect him to you know continue rowing after he

00:09:45.200 crossed the line of the previous guy the french never finish really i don't know they never really 0.96

00:09:49.240 get all the way there you know they say they're coming you know it's so french they say they'll

00:09:53.580 be there and then something that kind of happens towards the end um well the first guy got towed

00:09:58.300 over the columbia river bar which is it is notorious for destroying boats so do you think

00:10:03.840 that he took the easy way out no i think that was the right solution for that particular guy but the

00:10:08.640 second guy i think he copped out right but the first guy ended at cape disappointment no and i

00:10:14.060 know this guy the gerald doubleville and i know he would have enjoyed the irony of finishing at

00:10:17.740 cape disappointment and having to get towed over he would have actually enjoyed it he'd be like

00:10:21.200 the irony of that you know so when you're out there so you're out there on the like how different

00:10:26.620 i've been on a cruise that went across um the pacific right that went from i don't even know

00:10:32.560 where it was it was from um from vancouver to to uh kobe kobe japan okay or something or kyoto

00:10:41.480 something in one go yeah in one go right so but it was a cruise ship like how different is your

00:10:46.660 vessel than like a cruise how different is it than a cruise um my boat's 21 feet so about the size of

00:10:52.300 this room really yeah so that's so you and you you do every position you're the you are the rower

00:11:00.860 you're the engine you're the bartender you're the dj you're everything right it's like living in

00:11:06.440 your bathroom yeah and i see yeah and you can sleep in the cabin which is about the size of

00:11:11.460 your bathtub and you have a rowing seat on deck and a small compartment for storage up front that's

00:11:18.180 it and are you going backwards the whole time yeah that's crazy though you go backwards across

00:11:25.840 an ocean oh we had this kid when i was growing up that used to only play he would only run

00:11:30.060 backwards on the playground yeah something was wrong with him and then some people ended up

00:11:35.080 attacking him because it at a certain point he just messes up the flow of everything it's like

00:11:39.080 oh you know what is something wrong with him or did he turn out to be a genius and you all had

00:11:42.900 it wrong i mean we get that could have been it maybe we were all going the wrong direction

00:11:46.860 you know um he was creating his own path yeah he may have been do you feel like you like go against

00:11:52.900 like you're going against the grain like what like why like like what are you rowing from like

00:11:57.860 Do you feel like there's something you're rowing from?

00:12:00.020 I think there is a strong undercurrent that's driving me to do this.

00:12:04.440 And it has to be.

00:12:05.260 I mean, this is now the second year of training for this.

00:12:08.980 Yeah.

00:12:09.420 And it will be three or four total before I do this.

00:12:13.560 And there has to be something really quite compelling to make you continue to push after that goal with all these people that are saying, 0.73

00:12:20.600 You're crazy.

00:12:21.240 Why are you doing it? 1.00

00:12:21.960 And you know, when they say it's like.

00:12:24.080 And is that it?

00:12:24.960 Is it just like, was this just an idea that you had?

00:12:30.640 Yeah, I guess like why?

00:12:31.900 Like what is it that makes you, I mean, I guess it's just like that thing inside of a human,

00:12:35.540 like the desire to achieve, like what is it you think that?

00:12:38.840 Well, I rode the Atlantic.

00:12:39.980 Right.

00:12:40.800 And I rode with another person and that whole road became about our relationship and getting

00:12:47.360 on on lack of.

00:12:49.080 And was this a man or a woman?

00:12:50.320 It was a man.

00:12:50.960 And were you guys lovers or not?

00:12:51.980 No, he was married with four kids.

00:12:53.680 Really?

00:12:53.880 and he fell out was he married the whole time on the trip yeah he was married the whole time

00:12:57.160 of the trip he fell out with his rowing partner and he traded in this tall hairy guy for me

00:13:02.300 captain uh at the time i'd just come off a three month delivery from cape town to abu debbie where

00:13:08.520 we went past pirate pirate area right and uh yeah he traded in a captain young woman for

00:13:15.740 uh for me i mean for that guy for me and uh but he wasn't ready for that i think the

00:13:21.960 that he fell out with that partner because it was just too much like the idea of rowing the

00:13:27.160 the atlantic when it came down to like that final week the partner left too much so you just jumped

00:13:32.640 in at the last minute yes really do you think if it hadn't been that instance where it's like it

00:13:37.760 was like a thing at the lat like okay now like that you would not have done it or you already

00:13:44.180 done it no i hadn't done it you hadn't done it i was gonna that was your first time i was gonna

00:13:47.780 row with an olympic rower and then i met her and she was kind of cold aloof and scandinavian i

00:13:51.780 thought this will never work yeah but by the time i got to the point of meeting her i was like what

00:13:56.380 has this woman done like now i want to row an ocean this is just mad why because you were almost 0.92

00:14:01.600 you had envy it was envious of that she had done it it was she didn't do it um not and certainly 0.94

00:14:06.940 not with me but it was a fascinating new world people row oceans right holy shit you know it's 0.72

00:14:12.660 so funny like when i was young i actually i remember saying that they have a company called

00:14:15.780 sea do right which makes like you know these little things yeah these things you can like

00:14:20.160 just zoom across the you know the water or whatever you could probably fucking use one in 0.74

00:14:24.200 your bathtub if you wanted to if you had a big tub and and your wife didn't get mad about a lot 0.87

00:14:28.640 of stuff you know but they had um i sent them a letter yeah these right there i sent them a letter

00:14:34.840 asking them i remember being 17 or something and sending them a letter saying i wanted to see do

00:14:39.040 around the whole world and they never say they never wrote me back well you have a fundamental

00:14:45.360 problem of getting refueled endlessly so that's one problem you would have yeah so that's one

00:14:49.760 thing about you is you don't have to stop for fuel you're the fuel i am i'm the engine right

00:14:53.580 and i had a hilarious conversation with a ship's captain like a big you know car carrying ship and

00:14:59.840 the captain asked me if i was okay because he said that like i'm like on megaphones or like

00:15:04.920 how did you do it via radio so oh okay vhf radio and he said um you know you're i was drifting at

00:15:12.420 the time yeah but i had rode to get out of their way and then i had stopped rowing to have a pee

00:15:17.640 because for the entire two hours of like getting out of their way i was dying for a pee but i was

00:15:22.500 like i need to keep going on the oars yeah and so when i stopped he'd passed and now he's asking

00:15:27.620 if i'm okay because i'm not under command and i go well like you know you're broadcasting when

00:15:34.060 you're on the radio and i was like but i just need to take a pee you know but then i'll get

00:15:37.940 back on the oars you know i'm fine do you feel like he was trying to like pick up on you a little

00:15:43.440 bit like like he thought maybe you were like no i could see a man being like that especially out

00:15:48.220 on the ocean a woman just happens to be rowing by which a is any man on an ocean's dream right

00:15:55.280 that is never going to happen like you're some kind of like water like lot lizard or something

00:15:59.320 you know like here's a lady out here well i rename the name of my boat rowboat so that when i

00:16:05.360 transmit my position i'm loud and clear that i'm a robot but i still have to explain this to people

00:16:09.940 right like i'm named rowboat there's a picture of a rowboat what part of this do you not get

00:16:14.260 but but when i'm on the radio you know i'm a young woman i i have a british accent i'm alone

00:16:20.400 in a rowboat yeah and i'm often naked are you carmen san diego i feel like that's who i feel

00:16:25.540 like i feel like holy shit a real life carmen san diego is showing up because it must be i mean

00:16:31.400 you're basically i think especially a man out on the ocean they're just fantasize they're you know 0.80

00:16:36.660 they're just stuck out there with usually mostly men you know so the idea that a woman's going to

00:16:42.020 go by in a rowboat it needs rescuing yeah of course oh yeah pluck this woman out of the out

00:16:48.460 of the ocean that's the first thing i would think of did you ever run across any of that on the

00:16:52.740 radios where men would like um they seem like it got a little flirty i'm sure not really but the

00:16:58.100 coast guard are sometimes my biggest problem because they they want to rescue they go fast

00:17:02.780 and they creep up on you and they don't transmit always and oh yeah sometimes i row naked yeah and

00:17:08.900 then i'm in this flurry to get dressed which looks suspicious oh yeah and so they slow down

00:17:13.660 because now i look suspicious of course so i'm waiting till they go so i can you know get back

00:17:19.480 to being naked and rowing i see and why naked like what is it just easier naked um you don't

00:17:25.180 have as much chafe under the arms right and you don't have to do any laundry and there's no one

00:17:29.380 else around and i mean it's not always warm enough but the entire atlantic crossing we were

00:17:34.980 naked from the beginning really yeah and so best tan you did yeah and so that was the first time

00:17:40.220 that you um that you went right and that was with the partner and then you did it two more times by

00:17:44.660 yourself no no that was it that was it yeah and now i'm training for this pacific crossing but

00:17:50.400 it was magic the atlantic yeah and i mean that was the ninth time i'd been across and most of the

00:17:55.400 other boats were fast boats so but this was that was the first time you've been across rowing i'm

00:17:59.600 correct okay yeah and what's the difference between like rowing and and going fast

00:18:06.000 well row in a rowboat you are super close to the water like the very thing that i feared that

00:18:14.440 proximity to the ocean was the thing i ended up loving and these oars are like extensions of your

00:18:19.820 arms so you can feel the water you can feel these different textures and you think that a flat sea

00:18:26.780 would be the best rowing but it isn't because you have to cut the surface rip the water and then get

00:18:31.960 momentum going with the boat but when the there's some wind and the waves are aerated it's light and

00:18:37.780 fluffy and it's like rowing through silk and i didn't know the ocean had texture right and

00:18:43.280 underneath the water so every week you need to get in the water and clean the bottom of the boat you

00:18:48.700 do yeah and there's not like a place there's nobody stopping by there's not an app you can

00:18:52.860 use to be like it's the scariest part the whole thing is i'm now going to get out of the thing

00:18:57.220 that's keeping me alive i would put my feet up and clean the bottom of the boat wow and at that

00:19:04.220 point do you kind of wish you had somebody else you could flip a coin to see who would do it

00:19:07.960 well well when i was running somebody else i couldn't wait to put some distance between the

00:19:12.160 two of us so i loved it under there and what you don't realize is that because you're so slow

00:19:16.640 moving is there's a whole ecosystem underneath your boat that are using your shadow for protection

00:19:22.640 no yeah so it's like 50 fish under the boat oh my and you need to keep that ecosystem in check

00:19:29.040 because if stuff grow on the bottom of the boat then fish come to eat those and bigger fish

00:19:33.020 things get out of hand before you know it yeah you have um blue marlin and and you know these

00:19:38.900 billfish kind of spearing around you you're just a little awning for a dang you're just an awning

00:19:43.740 for this and just a shark or something or something eager an octopus you got to keep it small the

00:19:49.160 chain but we got to keep that chain small it could grow big exactly i mean you could get here and 0.54

00:19:52.960 have damn poseidon under there if you don't clean that thing off by the end you know you could be

00:19:56.420 an umbrella you could be an umbrella for poseidon but doing it by myself i haven't done it yet 0.98

00:20:01.720 like i i it's something on the list so i need to train this so you haven't even trained for that

00:20:06.500 part of you getting out and cleaning the boat no wow drift and that's the most dangerous part

00:20:10.980 because that is when you are, I mean, outside of that, you're not in the water.

00:20:16.200 If you are detached from the boat, you are dead.

00:20:19.120 It just takes one or two waves in drift to separate you and the boat.

00:20:24.120 It's a wrap.

00:20:24.940 Yeah.

00:20:26.040 It's a wrap.

00:20:27.400 And the boat don't know you like that.

00:20:28.960 The boat will keep going.

00:20:29.860 Yeah, it doesn't care.

00:20:31.040 That's crazy.

00:20:32.540 Wouldn't that feel so sad?

00:20:34.240 You're like, what?

00:20:34.580 So, you know, you need a strap on your wrist or a harness or whatever makes you feel confident that you'll stay with your boat.

00:20:41.800 It's your shell.

00:20:42.740 Right.

00:20:43.080 You're the hermit crab.

00:20:43.980 It's your shell.

00:20:44.680 I see.

00:20:45.780 And do you feel like, like what starts to change after being out in the water that, like I can start to, I can feel when you said that the oars feel like part of your arms, right?

00:20:54.440 Like I can really feel that.

00:20:57.000 Like I could feel like at a, you know, just how you start to become, do you feel as human?

00:21:02.700 do you feel more or less human do you feel more like a boat do you feel more connected to nature

00:21:10.000 like what's some of that kind of stuff that goes on inside of you and inside as you go along on

00:21:14.660 the ocean i mean because just to have that much of a relationship with something i don't know if

00:21:19.020 i've been in a relationship for six months you know much less like with just like you know

00:21:23.400 skirting on the top of some water you know i think you lose identity because there is no mirror i

00:21:30.000 don't take a mirror and um you actually get a lot of feedback from yourself by our interaction

00:21:35.180 like right now you're getting information little tiny parcels of it about you right now from our

00:21:40.020 conversation which i don't get if i if there are no other humans so that's just falls away i think

00:21:46.380 identity and ego fall away maybe not so much ego but definitely identity and wow identity falls

00:21:53.540 away that's fascinating and also your whole body becomes a tool so instead of walking like on two

00:21:59.680 legs now you have two arms and two legs and you use them almost equally to move around to brace

00:22:05.380 yourself and your seat is moving as you do this it's very similar to a rowing machine at the gym

00:22:11.100 yes but there's a lot more wobble sideways stuff and what does your butt start to hurt after a 0.67

00:22:17.920 while yes or does it feel is it ever like erotic feeling at all or no no and you kind of you need 0.90

00:22:25.240 to fatten up before you go oh really big time i've gained 30 pounds i need to gain another 15

00:22:30.160 wow well the 30 you have looks nice i mean i didn't i only look i only look at our guests

00:22:34.360 i look neck up for guests but it's like i mean have you ever met a woman who said i am gonna

00:22:39.760 gain 45 pounds said like no woman ever well usually if they do men some men would be like

00:22:47.120 well then you're gonna damn yeah you're out of here yeah you better be heading out to sea honey

00:22:51.600 right so and then you come back stripped of it like i'll lose 40 50 pounds so there's just suitors 0.99

00:22:57.500 waiting at the shoreline for you probably with roses all you can't walk right you haven't walked

00:23:02.420 for four or five months oh yes and your sense of of stability your balance is is completely changed

00:23:08.380 like you walk around like a drunk person crashing into stuff yeah and land seems so hard and

00:23:13.720 unforgiving oh wow call it flatland it's just you move your foot down and it doesn't move doesn't

00:23:18.620 do anything yeah do you feel like you become more is there a certain type of animal or something

00:23:24.740 that you feel a little like you can relate to almost a little bit more in that kind of moment

00:23:29.400 because that's really interesting that you're at the water for so long that then the land doesn't

00:23:33.540 feel like home you know it's it's an odd feeling i think you know it if you've ever done so many

00:23:40.020 laps in a pool and then you get out and there's that like leaden feeling there's like too much

00:23:43.820 gravity suddenly that's the closest i can say that it feels like um but you yeah you feel quite wild

00:23:51.400 yeah um i mean i used to pluck my eyebrows and then i rode the atlantic and i didn't pluck them

00:23:56.320 during the atlantic and afterwards i was like why would i waste my time right plucking my eyebrows

00:24:00.600 again you know so things just change after that and do you um because i remember i went on this

00:24:09.300 thing called semester at sea right i used to work in the bookstore i've seen those boats around the

00:24:13.440 world have you yeah not just like when you're out there huh i saw one docked in mauritius oh cool

00:24:18.960 very cool yeah i'd love to have done that it was a neat experience i got a job in the bookstore and

00:24:23.220 the financial aid that i had applied at i went to louisiana state university that applied on this

00:24:27.160 ship so you weren't a student i went as a student yeah oh okay but you were also working on board

00:24:31.700 yeah but also working on board and so i mean it was you know and it's like 700 students and you're

00:24:38.240 Just basically you kind of go around the globe and you stop at different ports.

00:24:44.680 And I did notice, like, at a certain point, we started to become our own little piece of the world that had gone loose.

00:24:55.540 And we developed our own little system of who, not who was in charge, but what was acceptable and what was okay.

00:25:01.940 And I noticed we started, honestly, wearing less and less clothes.

00:25:04.660 I noticed at the end of the cruise, at the end of the ship, you could almost wear nothing to class.

00:25:08.880 And it was acceptable to everyone, men and women. 0.52

00:25:11.380 Things became very, just a lot more natural once we were separated from America.

00:25:20.520 And I also noticed out on the ocean, it would just, the days just seemed to kind of go by.

00:25:26.800 What is it like for you out there?

00:25:28.180 Do things go fast?

00:25:29.180 Do things go slow when you're out on the water?

00:25:31.480 Does time change at all as compared to here on land?

00:25:34.440 does it feel like it yeah there's a 24 hour clock now rather than the 12 hour clock and i

00:25:39.240 haven't been doing this now for 17 years being a captain i've noticed that i don't eat at regular

00:25:44.540 times in fact that's not natural to me to have breakfast at i don't know seven to nine and lunch

00:25:49.760 at noon and then dinner that's not natural my my natural breakfast time is somewhere between

00:25:54.900 midnight three three a.m wow and then i have a second breakfast like seven which is really lunch

00:26:00.960 and then my natural dinner is noon and then the whole afternoon evening i actually naturally don't

00:26:06.800 want to eat that time huh and you just found that that's when you that's when you work best

00:26:11.180 yeah that's what my body wants if completely left to it right so there are yeah there are rules and

00:26:17.860 guidelines that we are imposed or imposed upon us that actually might not be your your rhythm

00:26:24.660 and you find those things out wow that's so cool but every day at sea i feel is so different like

00:26:32.720 i feel i have the best front row seat in the world's greatest cinema yeah you know the sun

00:26:38.300 rises the sunsets the wildlife all of that and i i think that if i don't write about it it's lost

00:26:43.660 right so i try and and write every single day to take everyone with me because i'm gonna go where

00:26:50.040 I don't know, 95% of the world will never go.

00:26:53.200 So I audio blogs, so I write blogs, but I read them.

00:26:56.460 Okay.

00:26:56.740 And they go directly and post that same day.

00:26:59.240 Correct.

00:26:59.840 And they have a lat long, they have a position.

00:27:02.140 Right.

00:27:02.320 They come up as a little message on my tracker.

00:27:04.140 So people can see where you're at.

00:27:05.200 And they can do that all through your website.

00:27:06.780 Correct.

00:27:07.260 Okay.

00:27:08.860 But I want to be your eyes and your ears.

00:27:11.060 I want to tell you what it feels like, the senses, and take you on that journey with me.

00:27:15.600 Do you feel more or less like a woman after you're out on the ocean for a long time?

00:27:23.100 What an interesting question.

00:27:25.640 Do you feel like, because you said kind of your identity goes away,

00:27:29.640 and I don't mean it in any base way or anything like that,

00:27:33.560 but do you feel more just like a human and not like a woman or a man,

00:27:42.300 if that makes any sense?

00:27:45.600 I don't know really how to answer that.

00:27:47.240 And there may be no answer.

00:27:48.260 I don't know.

00:27:48.640 I'm just trying to think about if I were out there for so long and so detached from the society and just the regular systems and norms that we're in and all these little circles that we function in.

00:28:00.200 And you mentioned identity.

00:28:01.520 What would kind of change about me when I was out there for so long?

00:28:05.140 Do you know, I think I thought about that before I read The Atlantic because even though I was naked, I wore a necklace and I felt that hung on to my femininity in some way.

00:28:15.600 And so I think that answers it.

00:28:18.440 I think you do lose it. 0.95

00:28:20.000 You're neither male nor female.

00:28:21.660 You're just this wild human.

00:28:23.580 Wow.

00:28:24.080 Do you start to feel wild?

00:28:25.700 I do.

00:28:26.560 And I love the feel of the breeze on my naked skin.

00:28:30.920 I call it an air shower.

00:28:33.240 Oh, really?

00:28:34.060 Wow.

00:28:35.420 And is that the only kind of shower you can really take out there?

00:28:38.000 Well, you can just jump in the water.

00:28:39.820 Or can you jump in the water?

00:28:41.500 Well, again, you're jumping off your craft.

00:28:44.380 Right.

00:28:44.720 That's risky.

00:28:45.260 With caution. I have a desalinator, so I make water. I press the salt out of the water and so I can wash. But everything you do is an economy of effort. If you go up to the front cabin, that's a movement that you don't necessarily need to make if you don't need it.

00:29:01.780 everything needs to be considered to economize on effort because if you're going to do nine to

00:29:08.600 12 hours of exercise a day that's going to take everything you've got and you want to keep your

00:29:13.140 mental capacity enough that you can make good decisions and navigate and stay alive do you

00:29:18.980 and at any point did you start to lose that any on any of your tracks lose a mental clarity yeah

00:29:25.120 like did you start to feel like oh something's going on here it could have been a mix of like

00:29:28.320 the movement in the ocean or you know an illness coming on or some type of a vertigo or something

00:29:33.160 do you start to feel that at all or you were always on well I'm a trained captain so I'm

00:29:37.940 pretty sharp on that but but coming down the coast in June I rode past Point Conception

00:29:42.680 and had one of the most harrowing nights of my life at sea and that night even though my experience

00:29:49.700 told me what I needed to do and I did those things and I didn't ever feel that I was

00:29:54.560 risking my life but i also knew from experience that i was in a very dangerous situation yeah

00:30:00.780 that if i didn't do this thing that my experience was telling me to do i need

00:30:04.200 dire things could could happen um ultimately waves were breaking clean over my boat really

00:30:10.440 and if that wasn't bad enough i had rowed all day and now i was awake all night so what happened

00:30:17.620 was the santa anas turned on like this freak 40 mile an hour blast of 100 degree heat just off

00:30:24.340 the land like that and it mashed it created wind waves that mashed into the prevailing current and

00:30:29.920 and just this you know nightmare began are you and at that point do you do you start i was right

00:30:36.320 next to land really which is even more scary more dangerous because um and in front of the shipping

00:30:42.180 lane there's now stuff that can hit you and you can hit it and and are you you just get into like

00:30:47.140 a survival mode like okay this happens and this happens and i just and then i do this one thing

00:30:51.800 after another just keep going but i i went through into the different modes of severe sleep deprivation

00:30:57.240 and the first for me is paranoia like i hear voices people oh yeah you haven't seen people

00:31:03.020 for 12 15 days so you're like people who are really excited people and then you open the hatch

00:31:08.000 and you know full well there are no people but you open the hatch and you check every single time

00:31:12.740 that's awesome so do you almost love that though a little bit like it's a little bit exciting

00:31:17.140 even though it's scary well no no but it just it went on it escalated through the night because

00:31:23.860 one thing happened after another and at one point i had to bring in the sea anchor so there's a big

00:31:28.800 parachute that minimizes your drift and i'm pulling it into these breaking waves and i look right to

00:31:34.420 my forward cabin and i see the hatch and there's a little hand trying to get out no way and i'm

00:31:39.260 like that's not real like at that point my brain could separate and say no that's not real don't

00:31:44.080 it wasn't real don't freak out this hand that's like this big trying to push out like coming out

00:31:49.660 of the cabin is not real boy saltwater golem out there that's beautiful wow that would be so have

00:31:57.900 you ever has a fish ever just jumped right into you flying fish yeah yeah they jump in the boat

00:32:02.520 and but you ever been hit by one just you know they don't know what's going on usually i personally

00:32:06.120 haven't but other people on on past crossings have and it's always really funny and they smell

00:32:11.180 they stink they do they totally stink and they leave scales everywhere and then they go crazy

00:32:15.840 and you're like stop it i'm gonna save you just stop moving all right you know you pick them up

00:32:20.300 by the wing and they they you know you jump fly and flop them in the water what gets in the boat

00:32:25.280 like from the outside water waves splashing in and um usually just at that point where you've

00:32:32.420 washed your socks and you're like no no new low like we just got just got dry socks and now they're

00:32:40.060 wet again you know could can the smallest thing be like the biggest thing out there or like

00:32:45.720 like could it be like that the smallest thing that that's that's your entire day it seems like

00:32:51.400 sometimes you're just kind of getting wet when you're not prepared for it is the worst it's the

00:32:55.620 worst i mean i opened the hatch to in that particular scenario where i had to bring the

00:33:00.460 the sea anchor on board and the little hand appeared and then the wave just the timing of

00:33:04.380 it just came over my head and i was like new low you know just drenched clean over and especially

00:33:10.040 Especially at night because you have to wait until the sun comes up to even get dry.

00:33:14.340 You have to get over it really quickly.

00:33:16.620 You know, it happened.

00:33:17.820 I'm over it.

00:33:18.520 Yeah.

00:33:18.740 I'm now wet.

00:33:19.380 So what?

00:33:19.700 Do you have any different dreams out there that you notice or anything like that?

00:33:25.260 Or do you dream more?

00:33:27.120 You have really clear dreams.

00:33:29.960 Yeah.

00:33:30.540 Sometimes dreaming and reality are almost as clear and sharp and you're not sure.

00:33:36.780 the first crossing i ever did across the indian ocean i hitched a ride on a boat back from thailand

00:33:41.020 and yeah the the night visions were just phenomenal like meeting myself and fighting

00:33:48.000 myself and then giant chess sets and birds and i was a bird i mean it was wild that's probably

00:33:53.100 something in the water a lot of people go to bangkok just to do dope you know that could be

00:33:56.560 something in the water out there a couple of yeah but i have a lot of pizza dreams like i want to be

00:34:02.020 air drop pizza that's my fantasy and it's like i want the the fiorentino you know the one with

00:34:06.640 the egg and it's like don't fuck with the egg you know drop that thing well and when i was rowing 0.96

00:34:12.980 across the atlantic i was getting near antiga and i knew i had a friend who had a plane and i was 0.98

00:34:17.040 like do it you know come on drop me the pizza be somebody and my friends were like what do we do

00:34:21.720 they just decided we're not going to reply just don't reply don't go there i was like come on 0.99

00:34:27.300 reply i know you've got a plane want that pizza don't fuck with the egg what would you get a 0.98

00:34:30.900 medium no the largest pizza you can imagine really no come on don't be greedy you're just 0.98

00:34:36.960 rowing you know and you look up at planes going on what their food's like you know oh i bet do

00:34:43.120 you ever look at a plane you're just so jealous no usually my food's better really it used to be

00:34:47.920 different but in-flight food now is it's gotten bad yeah but do you look up at a plane you're like 0.85

00:34:52.980 fuck that's way i should have done that instead no no i'm too far down the path now yeah you know 0.84

00:35:01.960 life's taken a lot of left turns and now we are where we are you know yeah you can't look back 0.98

00:35:06.060 um some of the ocean life like recently we had a guest on this guy named jay moore and he was i

00:35:10.880 think the first guest we ever had on this podcast and he um and he took me uh paddle boarding out

00:35:18.220 He lives on the Pacific, like on the PCH somewhere.

00:35:20.860 And he took me paddleboarding out and kayaking right off from his house.

00:35:25.320 And I never realized, like, the seaweed comes up to the top sometimes.

00:35:29.220 And you're just, it just, it was one of the most fascinating moments I've had, like, being that far out in the water.

00:35:34.940 We weren't very far out, but a couple hundred yards.

00:35:37.480 And being, just seeing, like, dolphins and seeing seals go by and just, it blew my mind.

00:35:44.060 like i didn't realize i had this moment of like wow like water is really the king like land is

00:35:50.020 this sort of second class citizen on the earth yeah really it should be planet ocean if you look

00:35:55.760 at the map it's blue and we call it planet earth but earth is a minority yeah to the ocean do you

00:36:03.300 start do you like do you develop any relationships with like animals that are out there like how

00:36:08.260 long will an animal do you really yeah how long will an animal like kind of just cruise alongside

00:36:11.960 like you ever get a seal that's you know seem like he's trying to be naughty or something not

00:36:16.280 like crazy but like a seal you know it's a man and he's just milling around for a couple days

00:36:20.280 well um dolphins are like the dogs of the sea oh yeah and i like a dog that sits at your feet when

00:36:26.560 you're not feeling so great dolphins will come and hang out for hours they don't on a sailboat

00:36:31.380 but there's something about the robo you don't make a noise you don't make a smell they actually

00:36:35.780 think you might be one of them really yeah i've had whales trying to communicate with the boat

00:36:40.620 you can hear the sonar ping there's like and you're like i don't speak whale like i'd like to

00:36:47.000 but i don't know what you're saying and don't mate with me that's the other thing because i i was on

00:36:52.380 a boat i was because they can just spray semen right out no no they take a run at you no really

00:36:59.580 wow that's an old school method that's so russian but i had a a whale try and mate with the middle 0.98

00:37:06.800 hull of my trimaran no and why did you paint like a vagina down there no it was painted blue it must 0.96

00:37:12.300 have looked like a whale and it turned up and i'm like every time you see well you go whale yes you 0.96

00:37:16.940 know it's so awe-inspiring and then this whale was getting excited just blowing you know blowing

00:37:22.780 water up yeah he's trying to show off yeah he's in the dance sequence and he's doing this 0.97

00:37:29.760 this circle around the boat going and i'm like uh-oh i can't fuck a whale what do i do because 0.99

00:37:38.160 don't crush my boat you know it's like moby dick he'll destroy my boat and i'll be swimming do you 0.99

00:37:42.820 feel like at that point like you try to shake the boat a little like to like you know no you make a 0.96

00:37:46.760 lot of noise you do you are now a human impersonation of an outboard motor you are just like

00:37:52.100 flashing lights you know jumping up and down feeling complete completely ridiculous doing it

00:37:57.840 you know i am not a whale it's really what you're saying yeah i guess you don't want to shake the

00:38:03.160 boat too much maybe they might give it the wrong signal you just want to act like not of a like

00:38:07.240 basically not feminine i'm not a whale yes this is yes i'm not a whale that's that's it and so

00:38:12.480 he went eventually but you know like most males of the species he came back in the morning for 0.63

00:38:17.500 another go what a pervert guy guy it's morning and i had to go through that whole thing again

00:38:27.340 This ship has sailed, bro, literally, or rode.

00:38:30.260 This ship has rode.

00:38:31.800 Yeah.

00:38:35.120 We have some calls that came in, and we're going to keep talking,

00:38:37.800 but I just want to get some of our listeners were really intrigued,

00:38:40.400 and so we had just some calls that came in, so we want to get to some of those.

00:38:44.040 Nick, anything that pops into your head, too, you feel free to ask Leah.

00:38:46.640 Will do.

00:38:47.860 Hey, Leah and Theo.

00:38:48.880 My name is Ray.

00:38:49.500 I'm calling you from Victoria, British Columbia, Canada.

00:38:52.400 I'm actually on the national rowing team here,

00:38:54.540 so I kind of know what you're preparing yourself with

00:38:57.480 even though you're going for a much further distance, Leah.

00:39:00.340 But my two questions for you are

00:39:01.820 how have you physically prepared for this challenge?

00:39:04.580 But more importantly, and the one I'm more interested in

00:39:07.060 is how you've mentally prepared for this challenge.

00:39:09.620 It's quite an endeavor to undertake.

00:39:12.400 Best of luck.

00:39:13.000 I'm going to be keeping track watching you do this thing

00:39:15.320 and that's absolutely incredible.

00:39:17.320 It's going to be a really cool experience.

00:39:19.540 Thank you.

00:39:20.740 So physically, I mentioned the weight gain.

00:39:23.400 You put on weight.

00:39:23.640 Yeah, you put on weight.

00:39:24.540 But ideally, you want muscle, not fat.

00:39:27.280 But obviously, towards the end, you just pile on as much fat as you can.

00:39:31.040 You'll be like, I'm going rowing.

00:39:33.100 I'm going rowing.

00:39:33.980 It's a full-time job if you're going to fatten up.

00:39:36.400 Literally.

00:39:36.600 Is it really?

00:39:36.980 You eat breakfast, followed by second breakfast, followed by lunch, followed by second lunch, followed by dinner.

00:39:41.500 And this doesn't leave a lot of time.

00:39:43.040 Do you feel?

00:39:43.760 Yeah, that's true, huh?

00:39:44.800 No.

00:39:45.200 Like, whoa.

00:39:45.880 Professional eater at this point.

00:39:47.340 You know, you almost need a restaurant to sponsor it.

00:39:50.020 That's what I did with The Atlantic.

00:39:51.440 i would love it if we could get a pizza dropped off to you somewhere yeah that'd be absolutely

00:39:56.000 amazing and maybe we'll put that clip out and see if we can get somebody to sponsor that that

00:39:59.220 would be epic an airdrop pizza who would do it papa john's needs to rebrand their image

00:40:03.760 that could be his comeback yeah that could be yeah um do is that an uncomfortable feeling having

00:40:11.960 to put on the weight like being a lady and having to do that like is it an uncomfortable feeling or

00:40:15.060 is it just fun or what is that other it's depressing actually and i i moved out to san

00:40:22.260 francisco to train in the bay of san francisco and 99 of the clothes i brought with me do not fit

00:40:27.160 anymore yeah and what i also learned is that fat is really indiscriminate my even my feet are bigger

00:40:32.600 oh really yeah a lot of guys like that i like these heels you have on i like them too yeah

00:40:39.760 i'm like man this is a little bit of a leopard in the water right you're an excuse for me to dress

00:40:43.840 up so i do um weight training but interestingly when i first started this two years ago i did

00:40:50.080 about six hours of heavy weights per week it was killing me yeah and just with just the it's

00:40:55.520 it's extensive yeah it's brutal on the body on the nervous system the whole thing and since january

00:41:00.820 i've been working with under armor they've been writing my program and we've just eradicated most

00:41:04.980 of the weight lifting really nearly all of it you still feel great and i've had huge gains since

00:41:10.640 doing that so and i think for some women just serious weight weight lifting isn't the right 1.00

00:41:16.060 thing yeah it's i mean you see some of these ladies that's just so jacked you know and they're 1.00

00:41:21.200 it's just like too much testosterone yeah your vagina's getting a little hard you know like this 1.00

00:41:26.600 like this is getting out of hand can't comment on that sorry that might have been a little obtuse 0.98

00:41:31.980 too i'm sorry but we knocked out the rowing machine i do not row on the rowing machine you

00:41:35.840 don't know i wrote did you beat it no i train in my boat and so i'm training volume ultimately i

00:41:43.560 want to be doing a 70 to uh 75 hour rowing week okay so i need to get to the point where i can 0.98

00:41:50.480 sit in my butt for 75 hours of rowing and that's hard to get your butt your butt has to be ready 0.83

00:41:55.780 yeah it needs to be padded and it needs to be good solid muscle if it if you can and it does 0.97

00:42:01.320 like my butt my body feels amazing and it feels amazing from the training because it's all

00:42:05.740 connected now you know like when you lift up an arm you feel the muscles working all the way

00:42:10.320 in circuit like it's a really cool feeling if that isn't motivation to for everyone to train

00:42:15.680 yeah i can't you know it's hard to to even relay what that feels like but no it's interesting to

00:42:20.060 hear that you went from weights because that's like kind of an it's not archaic method of

00:42:23.580 lifting but it's definitely you know like when i was growing up that was the only method that

00:42:27.740 they had really you know just want to get strong yes wait that was it and then now there's a lot

00:42:32.300 more uh technology around uh fitness and so what are some of the things that you would do now that

00:42:37.320 are different before than you were doing when you were doing weights so our philosophy now is do the

00:42:42.100 opposite if i'm rowing in a linear fashion everything i want to do should be lateral

00:42:46.200 sideways so that's one thing a lot of elastic resistance band stuff because it's yeah yeah

00:42:52.180 You're using a safe force and it's in opposition to what you were doing.

00:43:00.020 And that, yeah, literally it is the muscle.

00:43:01.760 So if you want these muscles, you also want those muscles as well.

00:43:05.940 And focusing on weaknesses.

00:43:08.320 So we started with my ankles and now we're doing working up for carbs.

00:43:11.280 What's wrong with your ankles?

00:43:12.160 Well, really nothing.

00:43:13.040 That's what I thought.

00:43:13.720 That's what I'm saying, yeah.

00:43:15.160 But when you stand, they are the foundation of your balance.

00:43:18.920 Yeah.

00:43:19.380 Really?

00:43:20.120 Yes.

00:43:20.960 Mine are just kind of around there, I feel like.

00:43:22.880 No.

00:43:23.420 So if you're going to get strong right up to the shoulders, you have to start with the feet.

00:43:27.140 Oh, God.

00:43:28.180 Yeah.

00:43:30.000 Just the last thing I wanted to hear today.

00:43:32.020 Well, for what I'm doing.

00:43:34.180 I just feel like more pressure now on me.

00:43:36.560 It's all right.

00:43:36.960 Don't train your ankles.

00:43:37.780 That'll end up, it'll be really weird.

00:43:39.980 Well, I just don't want to be in the gym like this, you know.

00:43:43.520 You'll get a different kind of attraction.

00:43:45.440 Yeah.

00:43:47.500 Yeah, it could be different.

00:43:49.120 And so he also said mentally, is there things that you do?

00:43:52.200 Are there like actual exercises you do mentally?

00:43:54.600 Or is it just your enthusiasm and your previous experience and being a captain?

00:43:59.760 It's your time on the water that that's kind of all the training that you need.

00:44:03.840 No, I think he's right.

00:44:05.160 It's a really good question.

00:44:05.940 I think you get a lot of you build confidence by doing the thing and doing it in increments where you can recover and go, OK, that didn't turn out well.

00:44:14.260 Like, for example, I'm trying to set a record around the Farallon Islands up in San Francisco, and then I'm going to set another one, new record, no one's done it, around the Catalina Island down here.

00:44:22.800 But the Farallons one is tough because it's a chain of islands.

00:44:27.340 They're named after Farallones, Spanish, the devil's teeth.

00:44:31.180 Oh, yeah.

00:44:31.580 And they look gnarly, and they're a shark breeding ground between May and September.

00:44:35.520 Just to add that.

00:44:36.860 Yeah. 0.97

00:44:37.480 Spice.

00:44:37.900 but and the bay has this um huge tidal and current patterns and i've not succeeded twice

00:44:46.240 i mean literally you go out there and you get whipped and by not succeeding what does that

00:44:51.020 look like like what is that um you don't get out there as far and now you're in just survival mode

00:44:56.940 to get back in and trying to avoid getting rescued or towed and so and so those are really the the

00:45:03.140 kind of things that take you out of actually you feel like achieving it getting rescued or towed

00:45:07.300 yeah yeah but it's at some unless you're french well at some point they are the right thing to do

00:45:13.840 and then you you just move on to that it's a new phase now we did our best and now it is it's a

00:45:19.460 necessity um is there like do you have as many sexual desires when you're out on the water as

00:45:30.380 you do just like in regular day well yeah i mean i think it's interesting you know like well i mean

00:45:35.840 We talk a lot about that kind of stuff on this show sometimes, but it's like, does any of that kind of stuff go away?

00:45:43.660 Well, this was a concern rowing the Atlantic with a married guy, right?

00:45:46.900 Right.

00:45:47.440 And so I think he asked the race director, you know, what do we do about that?

00:45:52.280 Because you're in international waters, dude. 0.98

00:45:53.640 I mean, I'm not saying anything, but I am saying this. 0.85

00:45:57.260 That marriage certificate is not going to hold up out there, you know what I'm saying?

00:46:00.020 We didn't get on, so it was fine.

00:46:02.300 His wife was safe.

00:46:03.240 But the race director said, look, if you're not, if you feel horny, you're not rowing

00:46:07.740 hard enough.

00:46:08.560 Oh, wow.

00:46:09.540 And he was right.

00:46:10.380 In that case, I never, I never had any desire for him at all.

00:46:13.660 You're just rowing gas right out of your arms.

00:46:15.760 Yeah.

00:46:16.000 Yeah.

00:46:16.180 But hey, I'm by myself now.

00:46:17.800 Right.

00:46:18.520 So do you, is that any part of your journey?

00:46:20.600 Like, do you like, is that almost like a, I'm going to treat myself tonight to a little,

00:46:24.200 you know, I'm just going to, you know.

00:46:26.620 A little downtime?

00:46:27.460 Yeah.

00:46:27.960 Literally.

00:46:28.560 Yeah.

00:46:29.520 You're all just, you know, row in a different direction, you know?

00:46:33.240 Like, what is that like out there? 0.99

00:46:35.260 Because I look, dude, I'll be in a hotel room and I'll be in there for a half hour and I'll masturbate. 0.99

00:46:39.600 I'm just in a hotel. 0.99

00:46:40.860 You know what I'm saying?

00:46:41.800 I'm just at a day's end.

00:46:43.500 But if you're super tired, you're not going to do that.

00:46:46.580 You just go to the bed and pass out, right?

00:46:48.320 That's true.

00:46:49.700 And that's what it's like.

00:46:50.880 That's the norm.

00:46:51.800 But, I mean, I get a lot of jokes of, you know, you're going to take enough batteries?

00:46:54.780 Yeah.

00:46:55.160 What are you going to recharge them?

00:46:57.140 Right. 0.99

00:46:58.120 But even on your birthday, you probably have to masturbate on your birthday, I would assume. 0.98

00:47:01.420 But I'm starting to think that maybe actually masturbating is good for your sports performance, because I'm starting to get really interested in hormones and what they do. 0.79

00:47:12.060 And this is a whole field, I think, that's going to explode in the future, and particularly for women, because I've asked a lot of the top sports physiologists, and they've never really had that question.

00:47:24.520 Yeah, no, I mean, that's some of the stuff that I'm thinking about.

00:47:26.600 Yeah, it's like, how do you kind of, does that change?

00:47:29.580 like what changes like in you when you get separated and you like because it seems like

00:47:34.000 you would almost you know because we're our bodies are 80 percent water or something you know

00:47:37.920 or probably 90 percent if you're my uncle he's an alcoholic but um and most of it's beer so he's

00:47:43.960 definitely keeping some for himself you know his cells are definitely storing but um but it's like

00:47:49.360 when you're out there with water you're so close to what you are i just wonder if you know what

00:47:54.580 changes inside of you you know like do some things get adjusted you know um in terms of just like

00:48:00.460 yeah hormones and like the things you think and like you know your dreams the way that you your

00:48:05.040 body feels i mean i don't know it's just who else is out on water like that you do feel you start to

00:48:11.260 belong in the ocean and in fact after that you know real intense survival night off santa barbara

00:48:16.820 i came into santa barbara july 4th weekend it was a zoo and i neither felt that i was there with

00:48:23.360 these people or now longer back at the ocean i was really adrift like am i one of them yeah i was

00:48:29.320 lost i'm one of these muppets out here drinking jaeger bombs i'm not that and i'm not out there

00:48:34.000 anymore like what am i and for a few days i was really in not a great place with that concept

00:48:39.840 is there moments where like i could imagine us waking up at night and it's just like the moon

00:48:44.000 is out and it's just pretty just gnarly that was like i remember when i was on this cruise ship

00:48:48.800 that was one of the coolest things that i ever saw would would be out there and seeing like a

00:48:52.040 meteor shower or something like i remember they woke us up all one night and put us and let us go

00:48:56.440 on the top top deck and we could all just lay up there in our sleeping bags for the whole night oh

00:49:00.200 wow and uh and there was some like you know once in a jillion years meteor shower or something

00:49:05.820 and we got to watch it and i've never seen anything like that before like these huge

00:49:10.040 you know huge shooting stars you must witness some stuff like that or at night you're in

00:49:15.180 you're shutting it down i am solo because it makes more sense to to row during the day the human

00:49:21.040 growth hormone kicks in a couple of hours after you go to sleep and you need that to recover so

00:49:25.100 solo actually i sleep at night i mean i don't just go okay it's dark and i go to sleep i i row

00:49:30.260 sometimes till midnight and i love those gradations of light you know the sun's down and now it's sort

00:49:35.800 of silvery and rolling and um and then these different kind of neapolitan colors and then

00:49:41.400 the stars come out and they roll around the globe over the night too you know how quiet does it get

00:49:46.860 out there it's never quiet no never and that's one of the things that is so no it's so great

00:49:54.140 it's so great when you arrive on land and there's silence is that rushing water is constant

00:49:59.100 i mean when there is no sound in an ocean it is so eerie it is it's so eerie like i've been in

00:50:05.720 the middle of the indian ocean the loudest thing was me brushing my teeth like oh my goodness is

00:50:09.880 this the truman show you know the ladder gonna pop down good afternoon good evening yeah um

00:50:16.800 and sometimes you get phosphorescence in the water yeah you'll have dolphins going by and

00:50:20.660 they're like these silver torpedoes and you think you're tripping um or there are amoebas or organisms

00:50:26.000 in the water like these pulsing things they're just so sci-fi and futuristic and you go no one

00:50:30.820 will believe me unless i video it and i can't video because it's night so no one will believe

00:50:34.260 me and now i don't yeah i'm in this other world you know does any animals make you feel horny

00:50:40.340 out there you think like a whale i mean i don't know something i mean yes if that whale like

00:50:45.540 Because I'm saying, so even that whale, like if it's trying to incite that action with the boat, you know, and I think this whale obviously has issues if it's trying to, if it's trying to do sex with boats, to me, that's out of line. 0.99

00:50:57.160 Like, I'm sure the other whales are like, Ernesto has lost his fucking mind. 0.99

00:51:01.420 That one's queer. 1.00

00:51:01.840 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:03.020 That was a bit much.

00:51:05.140 But does that kind of, but even just having that energy come around, does that, do you notice any of that in you?

00:51:11.180 Do you feel any of that or no?

00:51:12.600 Not sexually, but there's a kinship.

00:51:15.740 Like I have this reoccurring dream that this whale adopts me because it's lost its calf.

00:51:19.780 Oh, my God.

00:51:20.240 And this whale kind of follows me across the whole Pacific.

00:51:22.860 And I get quite emotional even reliving it sometimes.

00:51:25.940 But I've had that dream many times.

00:51:27.580 And the whale, when my boat starts to roll in a storm, the whale kind of flicks it back the other way.

00:51:31.940 And then at the end of the dream, obviously, I have this separation problem.

00:51:35.860 Because I've got to go in the Bay of San Francisco and the whale stays outside.

00:51:39.640 And it's really sad.

00:51:42.600 and then years later you see each other like at a um at a um at an aquarium no no don't don't ruin

00:51:49.720 it but i have this this part of the dream where i swim out to it with a line attached to my boat

00:51:55.040 and i just lie on top of this whale no and and i think that would be great if it happened so if

00:52:00.280 you could make that happen we'll see we'll see that and the pizza right yeah and then a pizza

00:52:05.700 gets dropped in and that whale probably who knows what his plans are though that's a lot of therapy

00:52:10.020 you to recover from that yeah i'm on the whale and the pizza comes out of the sky can you imagine 0.99

00:52:14.320 it oh that was definitely gonna want to fuck probably that's fascinating though um but but 0.99

00:52:20.380 sometimes whales cry at night do they yeah they're looking for one another or i had one night it must 0.99

00:52:25.720 be hard to find each other in the ocean i mean they they they communicate we just we're not on

00:52:31.840 that wavelength yeah literally yeah but still whales like like if a way like and you said you

00:52:39.820 can hear them communicating with each other yeah they when they blow the air out they can sometimes

00:52:45.740 make a noise with that so it's like like really wild sound and it's it's sort of unsettling and

00:52:53.340 what animal seems the most creepy i think it's seals dude a lot of people think seals are cute

00:52:57.140 sea lions sea lions yes they're daddies and they're i had one that pervert barked next to me it was

00:53:02.620 like jesus nearly jumped off my seat they're alcoholics a lot of them they look like alcoholics

00:53:08.660 Well, they have like 10 wives.

00:53:10.080 Yeah. 1.00

00:53:10.520 I mean, 10 mama seals.

00:53:11.580 Gaining weight.

00:53:12.180 They're Persian, I think, a lot of them. 1.00

00:53:13.720 Who knows where they're from?

00:53:15.840 But I've played games with seals before.

00:53:18.180 Do you?

00:53:18.520 So now do you give them, like, yeah, will there be moments where you'll give them treats?

00:53:21.380 Or like, do you keep anything on the boat where you can feed an animal?

00:53:24.280 No, no.

00:53:24.920 So I just do my thing and I row.

00:53:26.700 And if they want to interact, that's a different matter.

00:53:29.420 Like one played hide and seek with the back of the boat.

00:53:31.720 So it would kind of swim there.

00:53:33.000 And then it would like literally jump, kind of pop up over the top of the cabin.

00:53:36.260 And I would pop up too.

00:53:37.200 And then it would disappear, you know.

00:53:38.300 We were playing this game and I'm like, I'm playing a game with this seal.

00:53:42.320 It's just fab.

00:53:44.460 Do you, what do you miss?

00:53:45.700 And they swim underneath sometimes.

00:53:47.040 Oh yeah.

00:53:47.460 And they go, oh, we're going to come.

00:53:48.880 Like there's so much energy they have going.

00:53:50.900 And sometimes they show off like the dolphins go, oh, splosh, you know, like in SeaWorld.

00:53:55.900 Like in a, yeah.

00:53:56.440 But without the training.

00:53:57.460 Yeah.

00:53:57.880 Oh wow.

00:53:58.480 And then you feel like you're part of this, like circus menagerie and all of these animals

00:54:02.860 are now coming to show.

00:54:04.100 Like five o'clock, boof, it could just be performance around you.

00:54:07.220 Wow.

00:54:07.540 And you just feel, oh, my God, is this for me?

00:54:09.660 Is this for me?

00:54:10.440 Yeah.

00:54:10.820 And that's the stuff I like to write because kids, oh, my God, it's so great for kids to hear about me and this interaction with this amazing animals in the ocean.

00:54:19.700 Do you feel like one of them?

00:54:21.260 Do you feel like an animal?

00:54:22.900 At that moment, yeah.

00:54:23.960 I mean, or the audience or both.

00:54:27.380 And you want to play.

00:54:28.180 You want to be part of it.

00:54:29.760 I'd love to really just jump in the water and see what happened.

00:54:33.360 Yeah.

00:54:33.780 Do you ever feel like you're…

00:54:34.920 Well, add that to the list.

00:54:35.820 jumping in to clean the bottom and jumping in the next animal show you know just to see if you see

00:54:40.600 what happens if you make the team well i'm coming with you i'm now a seal sorry about rowing the

00:54:45.740 civic uh do you ever feel like you almost get so connected that you you wish you could just

00:54:53.540 jump in and just hold your breath and just go with them um yeah i mean not in those moments

00:54:59.460 It's because, you know, I become quite bonded with my boat.

00:55:03.340 Oh, really?

00:55:04.020 Yeah.

00:55:05.140 I got to look after this thing.

00:55:06.760 This thing will look after me.

00:55:07.960 It's that relationship.

00:55:10.400 But, yeah, I don't want to go and join the animal menagerie at this point.

00:55:15.080 Right.

00:55:15.920 But I did chase after a shark one time.

00:55:18.580 The first time I ever saw a shark, and it was in the Bahamas.

00:55:22.220 And I was like, oh, it was so beautiful.

00:55:24.720 That was the stunning thing.

00:55:25.920 And then I followed it, and there was a baby one.

00:55:27.800 I was like, oh, dear.

00:55:28.560 you know get away from this but the first instinct wasn't fear it was like wow and i started

00:55:34.200 snorkeling swimming after going what are you doing man don't don't follow the shark but you

00:55:39.060 just feel like it you're that was your instinct to just engage it was just so beautiful fascinating

00:55:43.320 yeah it was fascinating yeah i remember one time i went to south africa one time we were swimming

00:55:47.080 with sharks right and just like out in the cages you know you did that yeah but they had a they had

00:55:50.960 a great white that was maybe 12 feet long or something and got stuck between they had two of

00:55:56.360 those cages you get get down in and one of them and where the cages they were both round two

00:56:01.440 separate round circles where they were up against the boat there was a little area in between the

00:56:05.960 edge of the boat and the two round the two round cages and so a shark got stuck in there oh and he

00:56:13.100 was furious dude i've never seen anything so mad i've seen maybe a friend of mine uh a buddy of 0.66

00:56:21.600 mine's mom got that fucking mad one time but um but other than that i've never seen anybody get 0.96

00:56:26.340 that mad and uh but i got to touch it like on its head like its head was like was it slimy you 0.94

00:56:32.080 almost got to pet it you know what it felt like it just it felt like i was so scared i couldn't feel

00:56:38.040 oh really so it felt like i couldn't even feel it like my feelings whatever those were that are in 0.96

00:56:43.700 your feet in your fingers my feelings are like fuck you you can put your hand out there we're 0.99

00:56:47.840 staying way up in your elbow you mentally cut off your senses to your hands my feelings are like 1.00

00:56:52.580 i'm out wow but it was pretty fascinating um some of them feel like suede oh really yeah

00:57:00.060 because i went to a tuna festival in the south of france one time and they were i mean just

00:57:04.080 the height of the ceiling and every now and then that's not a euphemism is it you know

00:57:08.080 it sounds like one no but somebody fished out a baby shark by mistake and so all the kids were

00:57:13.920 there trying to pull its teeth out oh my god french kids you know yes so french dude but it

00:57:19.680 was it was its coat was like suede and it didn't feel wet or slimy it was it was kind of magic

00:57:26.680 it's so french pull out a shark's teeth put them in your pudding well they wouldn't come out yeah 0.80

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01:00:33.000 parent that's true and depending on what age they are too yeah like if they were a week old

01:00:37.260 i think it would be a bit wrong wouldn't it be a bit much yeah it would just be wrong to take

01:00:41.560 the breast milk from them it wouldn't even be assuming that's working it would just be you

01:00:46.580 know mom's running off with the groceries mom's gone to sea yeah she's had the baby now it's

01:00:51.180 yours look after um do you feel like that's something like do you feel yeah i guess it

01:00:56.520 would be hard to do and still is it like a balance or something you traded you ever want kids or no

01:01:01.260 i'd like kids yeah i still like them yeah um i'm not sure i'm dateable with this project yeah

01:01:06.720 yeah like do you have to tell guys like is that well they know usually by the time

01:01:11.020 and they get always the same they know when you're at the bar just like this doing this

01:01:15.320 they always say the same thing but you're going to see and i go yes but for four months come on

01:01:20.360 yeah but yeah those days are over waiting four months you know people aren't waiting that long

01:01:26.000 for love anymore oh dear this this is depressing it's interesting because yeah you all you're like

01:01:32.180 it's almost like the closest thing is like somebody going into the military going off

01:01:36.660 for that long really women put up with it all the time right you go on a tour of afghanistan

01:01:41.660 or whatever what are you gone six months yeah so it's not uncommon no no it's not uncommon i think

01:01:46.620 it's i think it's super but there's also the ego thing you're going not me and you're going to

01:01:52.700 achieve this thing not me so i think it's multifaceted yeah i could see that um especially

01:02:00.720 then if you're leaving someone and then they then the easy cop-out is to you know is to your ego to

01:02:07.560 take over and be like oh yeah they get to do it you know um it's a special kind of man clearly

01:02:12.320 Yeah. Has it been tough to like date with this, with these types of like, to be such an adventure, I feel like, that dating would feel like an anchor kind of.

01:02:21.520 Well, so men are attracted to the adventure and the fact that you are adventurous, but they just want you to stop the adventure once they're with you.

01:02:30.840 They're attracted to you because you're adventurous, but that's the very thing they don't want.

01:02:36.520 Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, it's like they want you to be adventurous, but just adventurous right there for them.

01:02:41.420 yeah they like the flavor of it but not the activity they want to be the adventure i think

01:02:46.160 so i think that's in man make fire right yeah i guess dude there's some guy just got busted for

01:02:51.800 arson i saw yesterday so who knows what they're doing with it now you know um but yeah i just

01:02:57.900 wonder like does it at all because it feels like a very romantic thing that's why i guess i'm

01:03:02.060 curious about some of this like going off to sea you know it has this kind of romantic connotation

01:03:08.360 you know kind of so so when i yeah when i meet somebody and they go but you're a mermaid i go

01:03:13.800 yeah but mermaids need rocks yeah you know i need to come out and beach you know what i'm saying

01:03:18.860 i gotta come beat my tail against something but it's the caged bird thing you can't keep the bird

01:03:25.420 in the cage you gotta let it go but the irony is that so as a captain i'd go off on boats all the

01:03:31.460 time sometimes they'd even live on them running them and so i really didn't sleep in the same bed

01:03:35.760 for many weeks in the stretch and this project has grounded me beyond in a different way so this

01:03:42.560 is more grounding yeah because i have a routine and i need to stick to it to get optimum performance

01:03:48.000 yeah and a big part of that is sleep and sleeping well where do you feel like a lot of your desire

01:03:53.200 to like go and to achieve and to do and to like um to just venture like what is that what is that

01:04:00.660 do you think it comes from a place you think that that's just kind of a destined predestined sort

01:04:04.440 of thing i've always uh loved boats as a passport to other things and i think that's why people own

01:04:10.560 boats so you might go down to marina del rey and it's packed with boats that don't move but people

01:04:15.120 won't sell them and they don't sell them because it's the dream the idea it's the the the passport

01:04:20.920 is the best word where they could literally cast off their life and go off around the world and

01:04:26.060 then so that's the it embodies that and i've loved boats for that and every kind of boat because they

01:04:33.040 they take you places it's another life is it a goal do you feel like like what is your do you

01:04:39.800 have an ultimate goal i mean i know like obviously you know traversing what is it is called traversing

01:04:44.820 the pacific crossing crossing um is crossing the pacific is that like after that will it be

01:04:52.040 i mean i guess there's more oceans um i i love writing in fact sometimes i think am i doing

01:04:59.180 this just so i can write about it right um that that thing of being writing every day and taking

01:05:03.540 people with me if i don't do that i feel the whole thing is is pointless um but i think when i rode

01:05:08.820 the atlantic i realized that this really captured people's imagination you say i'm gonna row and

01:05:14.060 then i'm gonna row the atlantic and it's like people know walking but walking to mongolia i

01:05:18.480 mean that's the the thing it's just like wow and then they start thinking well i technically could

01:05:23.180 walk to mongolia or row the pacific what am i doing with my life yeah and so yeah it inspires 1.00

01:05:28.440 people to think kind of what they could do yeah and a lot of women come up to me after talks and

01:05:33.060 say how do i get your courage how do i do that thing that i want to do where does it come from

01:05:38.160 how do i bottle it and do and that right there do you think that answer is because sometimes i

01:05:44.060 wonder if some things are just in in a person or if it's actually you know something that they go

01:05:50.820 do does that make any sense kind of like as a one-off thing no or if something like is the is

01:05:55.860 the desire or the want to do that to to do something unique is that like an idea that you

01:06:05.280 or do you feel like no matter what you're gonna that's something in you and you're gonna you have

01:06:09.880 to find a way to let that out of you somehow in the world you know yeah i think i i at each point

01:06:15.500 now i have to row the pacific right the idea seeded in 2012 i rowed the atlantic and i knew

01:06:21.000 i wasn't done within hours i i knew i'd be back doing it and doing it was something is it something

01:06:26.680 to prove no so i rode the atlantic and i i could have loved it but now i was bound with this this

01:06:33.520 relationship problem with my growing partner and he we did not get on you didn't no we're no farther

01:06:40.140 than this for 74 days he'd take us a shit and i know about it really yeah i'll tell you this story 0.76

01:06:46.640 then so what happened to me one time was i got caught in this bass fishing tournament right 0.66

01:06:50.100 and so randy moss is a famous he was a famous still is a famous athlete in america right and

01:06:55.940 maybe other places but they had a fishing tournament i've never told this to a woman

01:07:01.440 and that's him right there he's african-american gentleman and he's from south carolina i think

01:07:06.900 or georgia maybe uh but um he had a fishing tournament and he invited me to be in the

01:07:12.060 fishing tournament so i get into a bass boat dude and i didn't grow up fishing really anything like

01:07:17.600 that like my grandfather used to kill catfish but really just because he didn't want to spend time

01:07:21.480 around my grandmother i think and so anyway i go out on a bass boat i think we're going to be out

01:07:26.720 there just for a little while i'd stayed up all night the night before at this party they had a

01:07:29.880 big party the night before it's like a whole weekend that they did it was in lake minnetonka

01:07:33.040 minnesota so next you know i get on this bass boat in the morning they tell me i have to be on

01:07:36.640 the boat for six hours wow i thought i was gonna be out there for like 40 minutes he's from west

01:07:41.680 virginia randy amazing athlete and he was a really really neat man and um great fisherman too so 0.96

01:07:49.700 anyway i have to go to the bathroom like i have to go number two or i got to take a dump or shit 0.86

01:07:55.080 whatever they call it you know i don't know what they call it in britain what do they call it um 0.99

01:07:58.880 yeah poop going to the going to the loo going to the loo for a while pop to the loo yeah pop to

01:08:04.800 the loo for sure man skip to my loo if i have to you know if it's really coming on quick but anyhow

01:08:10.740 Now, so I have to go to the bathroom, and I'm like, I need to go to the bathroom.

01:08:14.320 Like, oh, let's pee over the side of the boat.

01:08:15.680 And now I'm too embarrassed to tell these guys that I have to do more than pee, right?

01:08:19.380 Right.

01:08:20.140 So basically, I end up telling them, like, I'm going to go for, like, a swim for a second, right?

01:08:24.860 Like, what are you talking about?

01:08:27.120 Like, everybody's in fishing clothes.

01:08:28.900 Like, everybody's wearing fish.

01:08:30.660 There's bait.

01:08:31.300 Like, it's a really small – it's just a flat boat while they're standing there.

01:08:34.880 You're like, I'm going swimming.

01:08:37.480 So literally, they're like, well, we're not stopping the boat.

01:08:39.400 so now i'm in like an argument with these guys right so then i had to hang off the side of this

01:08:43.720 boat and perform excrement at the same time so like under duress uh yes under sheer duress man

01:08:50.800 you know like definitely the coast guard would have pulled us over no whales would have shown

01:08:54.920 up to watch this but anyway it was just an alarming moment um i think that's where the 0.94

01:08:59.320 expression scared the shit out of you i've never shit that close to a gas-powered motor in my

01:09:05.240 entire life as i had that day literally hanging onto the side of a boat and it's hard to clench 0.96

01:09:10.180 your muscles up top and relax and at the you know um what about a bucket did that occur to you it

01:09:16.040 didn't because i didn't know these guys went off like i had to hide my body in the water like that

01:09:19.360 was the thing oh i was hanging off in the water so my body's in the water and did you not explain

01:09:25.860 after the fact i i they got the they figured it out you know did they laugh yeah yeah we all had

01:09:32.020 a big laugh thankfully yeah it was bad they're like wanting you to say something like i was just

01:09:36.220 ashamed i guess or embarrassed you know um but uh but anyway so that's wild so when you're in the

01:09:42.600 two person and someone has to go to the bathroom what do they do they go down below no they just

01:09:46.040 take the bucket and go on deck so you obviously you try and do it while the other person's sleeping

01:09:49.660 but still do you really yeah wow we're not in the same cabin but you're on deck they're in the cabin

01:09:55.100 but and especially if you're not getting along with each other what's that like because i feel

01:09:59.140 like you know that's kind of it's not embarrassing but it's like you know it's a thing that you know

01:10:04.960 we all kind of keep that hidden as humans you know especially as like you know eastern european

01:10:09.940 humans or whites you know or people americans whatever british it's like we're kind of posh

01:10:14.800 in that sense about like bathroom stuff is that weird well we got over it really quick because we

01:10:20.000 got naked and then that was it it was practical to be naked and then you forget you're naked

01:10:24.280 that's the other thing you've got to remember to put clothes on really yeah like when that coast 0.98

01:10:28.660 card came by and i was like oh shit you know grab something and you right you forget because it's 0.97

01:10:34.460 comfortable and yeah and you forget it's a new normal the normal is naked and clothed and you 0.98

01:10:39.420 put clothes on they feel like itchy and confining so cagey yeah and if you've got a bit of salt in

01:10:44.660 your skin it's gritty but i quite like that actually yeah yeah it doesn't bother me good

01:10:48.920 which is a good thing right um if a man took you on a sailboat would that be like is that a romantic

01:10:54.000 endeavor to you or no no because that's that's what i do for work that's work and it's funny

01:10:57.940 But if a man took you to a regular cubicle in an office building, is that romantic?

01:11:02.300 Depends what we did in it.

01:11:03.500 There you go.

01:11:04.880 That's what I'm talking about, huh?

01:11:06.840 The old whale showing up all of a sudden, eh?

01:11:09.660 But I race or I sail really fast boats.

01:11:13.120 They're usually a million dollar plus.

01:11:15.020 And so friends have boats.

01:11:16.480 You know, they go, yeah, do you want to come out for a day?

01:11:18.660 And I'm like, no.

01:11:20.440 You know, you have a Ford Fiesta and I sail Ferraris and get paid for it.

01:11:24.700 And it's really hard for my friends to understand this.

01:11:27.380 going we'll have a nice day out we'll go swimming have a picnic i'm like that's my worst nightmare

01:11:30.720 you know yeah yeah that sounds miserable that's like someone having a picnic in the office

01:11:35.920 in your cubicle on sunday on a sunday exactly do you um even though it's the best office obviously

01:11:42.280 yeah with a great view you know yeah so you can't complain but still it's like no that's what i do

01:11:47.460 what do you miss the most when you're gone like when you get back is it the company of

01:11:52.520 soft furnishings really yeah because the seat is hard and the deck is hard and you lie in the cabin

01:12:00.120 and because it's all fiberglass so i'm made out of carbon carbon no way my new boat yes my new

01:12:05.900 boat is gonna be a lot of carbon fiber um yeah so the sofa is an amazing invention and uh lying on

01:12:13.700 it it's great and do you not getting up and do you have like it's like the fridge yeah you just

01:12:22.260 you marvel at modern technology you go to the fridge i open it there's things in it but then

01:12:27.220 you need somebody to put things in it and um yeah so actually to answer the question i train

01:12:34.100 um a mind my mind a bit by going to the float tank you know that was big in the 70s is sensory

01:12:39.560 deprivation tanks it's full of up some salts and it's a closed space vietnam i think even did they

01:12:44.840 i think they did something no that was water torture sorry waterboarding float tag

01:12:50.460 so you lie in these salts and you're basically alone with your mind and the minute you lie down

01:12:55.780 your body disappears like you're not you are a mind in a box and so you've got to get used to

01:13:00.860 that the dark the confine freedom roy it's like you're on like david copperfield or something

01:13:05.060 yeah and then it's amazing the journeys your mind goes on in that hour and a half

01:13:08.320 And sometimes it just drops down into breathing and that breathing becomes a really calm thing.

01:13:12.840 So that's, that's been really good for mental training.

01:13:15.780 Do you relax overall when you're out on the water or is it tense?

01:13:22.360 There are moments relaxing.

01:13:25.960 No, it's tense.

01:13:26.880 It is.

01:13:27.360 Yeah, it's tense.

01:13:28.500 Is it tense from the moment you start or is it tense when the water gets a certain way?

01:13:32.500 Well, you have to be able to enjoy it.

01:13:34.260 I go out, you know, I'm gone days, months, whatever.

01:13:36.720 um so you need to be switched on to okay this is a beautiful moment or things are going great and

01:13:45.080 and have those micro celebrations because i might not succeed 18 people have tried and only two

01:13:50.660 succeeded so every step of this project i have to celebrate the milestones you know we're having a

01:13:56.160 chat that's you're a milestone it's cool it's exciting and you have a book too that's about

01:14:00.300 it's 50 what is it 50 things to do on the water 50 water adventures to do before you die and you've

01:14:05.340 done a few of them you mentioned the cage diving that's yes and uh yeah fishing is in there fishing

01:14:12.360 is there almost drowned one time fishing that's not in there wild swimming naked is in there which

01:14:17.080 you know is not too far from drowning in and then so the premise of the book was to find

01:14:21.860 the best place in the world if you were to do uh whitewater rafting only once where would you do it

01:14:27.500 where would you do it well not uh the grand canyon surprisingly the more challenging uh rapids and

01:14:33.740 the beautiful sceneries down in patagonia in in chile yeah the food lafay river and the great

01:14:39.440 thing about writing the book was after i wrote it i went and did a lot of them like it was a lot of

01:14:43.640 it was a pot it was it was a gift to free holidays it was great oh wow that's exceptional you'd think

01:14:49.600 you would do them before you wrote the book but that wasn't how it happened well yeah that's not

01:14:53.220 the way it works these days what was your favorite one did you have a favorite one that you've done

01:14:57.740 of the 50 things to do the one i'd like to do which is in par with what i'm doing right now

01:15:02.300 is i'd like to learn to row a gondola in venice and you can there's one organization called viva

01:15:08.580 voga la vonga which is viva voga la vonga which is about preserving that tradition of wooden boats

01:15:15.080 going up because it's being it's being surpassed now by zippy little power boats and uh can you

01:15:21.080 imagine being the gondolier as a woman and not an italian i know and there's a whole you know like 0.83

01:15:28.440 taxi driver type oh yeah the dark it's yeah it's a dark little under seedy underworld no it's it 0.76

01:15:34.540 there's 500 licenses only and they get handed down from generations and super hard to get into 0.51

01:15:39.800 definitely not you know as a non-italian non as male but do you think that that's cool though

01:15:45.740 it's almost like cool to keep it like that that like the tradition of it you know i think so but

01:15:50.680 if and it's not easy they you can fall in so you learn on a batella which is a is a work boat when

01:15:57.320 when you come like your desire do you think it's a competition do you think you compete against the

01:16:02.440 ocean do you think you compete against i can't do this do you think a woman's never done this like

01:16:08.420 is what is your competition like what is your why am i doing it yes like yeah but but why it more of

01:16:15.400 like a level of like i think the to be the first woman is just a cherry on the icing and i think

01:16:21.060 if i could do it completely self-funded and tell no one and just go and do it that would be my first

01:16:25.040 choice and then it wouldn't be about performing for um anyone there'd be no not for sponsors or

01:16:33.380 anything um yeah i mean why why do humans do what we do right it's the great fascination i think for

01:16:41.580 for this project in particular and for me it's about channeling um and channeling forces that

01:16:47.720 we all have so uh i mean my sports psychologist says that people are motivated by pain and

01:16:53.120 humiliation and probably both and we all have pain and we've all been through different degrees of 1.00

01:16:58.520 humiliation now if you took all of that and go okay fuck you all fuck what happened i'm going 1.00

01:17:03.840 to channel that and i'm into so directly into that one thing and give it everything i've got yeah 1.00

01:17:09.280 is it hard as you as you continue to go on and like you know it's funny i noticed this we're

01:17:15.140 just talking about this on the podcast this week on the regular episode where

01:17:18.680 like i find as like our podcast gets more listeners and like you know um just things

01:17:25.080 get busier and have a producer and like a you know um a couple producers like i start to be

01:17:30.900 like well how do i keep it from getting away from whatever my original not goals are but my original

01:17:37.560 purpose you know do you feel like that does that ever happen to you like even in in rowing uh

01:17:43.000 because i just think this is it's a fascinating thing that happens kind of in the world you know

01:17:46.540 it's like it's like my buddy started to paint my friend painted this picture of this is chris farley

01:17:51.780 okay okay just a lot of people think it's me or donald trump neither one of us okay i mean i've

01:17:58.300 definitely had some nights where i woke up looking like that and i actually once met a girl that

01:18:01.600 looked like that um and i didn't i didn't sleep with that girl so just for the record yes definitely

01:18:08.640 for the record dude um even though she thinks we you know whatever but it's it's a good concern

01:18:13.720 you know like how do you stay true to yeah and i'm curious because with your thing that is

01:18:20.060 something you gotta well this year i went crowdfunded last year i had a sponsor and this

01:18:24.680 year um we parted ways for amicable terms and i was like how do i keep going i've spent a year

01:18:31.580 and a half of my life training i've got fat to i'm going to san francisco you know this has become

01:18:37.340 my world and i i put it out there i wrote a blog and said look dear world this is what's happened

01:18:43.440 and i have to keep going and these the reasons why i'm no longer with this sponsor but you know

01:18:49.780 and the boat that i have i thought it was the right boat but actually it's not key to my success

01:18:53.880 and i said i've got a couple of people who've donated money and i call them my believers

01:18:58.400 and i started i'm on patreon oh good i call this community my believers and the most powerful thing

01:19:05.360 wasn't the money so the money is now enough that i could keep going for eight months i've been

01:19:10.340 patreon funded so if you're a believer thank you yeah it's the same thing that happened here we

01:19:15.240 wouldn't have had our studio if it weren't for patreon yeah so i call them believers because

01:19:19.160 every time somebody signed up it was like they stepped into an imaginary room in my life and said

01:19:24.680 i believe in you keep going i'm with you and i was just you know charged by that yeah and now

01:19:31.660 it's gathering momentum and there are more people and their network is amazing so when i rode down

01:19:36.960 the coast i stayed with a friend of a believer and and then other believers connected me with

01:19:43.980 the media and and that's probably how we met yeah actually yeah yeah well we had uh tom gray block

01:19:49.960 thomas who was uh one of our first sponsor ever and who inspired me to like get out of my doing

01:19:55.900 the podcast out of my apartment and be brave enough to take the next step and he gave us

01:19:59.520 sponsorship money um so he was your first believer first believer yeah he was like here's a thousand

01:20:04.900 bucks i'll give you a thousand bucks this month um you know just to help you know and he's like

01:20:10.460 you can do it and i was like i don't think i can do it i wanted to take his thousand and just go

01:20:15.480 to the bank and never do the podcast but that's where i'm from it's from the place i'm from the

01:20:20.480 place where it's like man i made a thousand bucks dude you know i'm saying i'll give 200 of this to

01:20:25.520 the guy who works at the graveyard i'm gonna spend the other 800 a party and i'll see you guys in

01:20:28.960 heaven don't because it's given with such trust and it's such a promise of right you know i believe

01:20:33.740 in your potential right that was it and it was that extra thing that came along with it that

01:20:37.160 like and he's like look i've been where you've been and and i can see where you can go and so

01:20:42.000 i'm going to believe in you you know and it's magnificent because i wouldn't have done that

01:20:45.880 without his support but here i am meeting you but he was who reached out he's like hey you should

01:20:50.800 talk to this woman and we haven't even met she's doing something incredible no right oh really no

01:20:56.720 okay that's amazing but he's like she's doing something very unique and it would be a neat

01:21:00.420 conversation it has been but it's not a new thing people backing people in fact on the way down

01:21:05.300 when i rode down i was listening to endeavor you know the shackleton story where they barely

01:21:10.220 survived and they had to row from elephant island down in antarctica and i i learned through

01:21:15.540 listening to his book on on podcasts on audible that he was crowdfunded back in the early 19th

01:21:21.900 century people sent him money from all around the world i mean literally the money in an envelope

01:21:26.460 little shackleton huh and he had sure he had some private you know sirs of this and that who wrote

01:21:32.080 big numbers but he was people backed well even like columbus and those guys like people were

01:21:36.800 just like yeah here's some money good luck out there you know good luck finding the city of gold

01:21:41.440 it's like what imagine if you put that nowadays you and some people want to go look for the lost

01:21:46.860 city of gold that would actually be the best go fund me ever but people would want to be part of

01:21:51.560 it yeah can you your five bucks your five bucks will help put man on the moon you're like here

01:21:56.320 have five bucks yeah like yeah go man on the moon you know you'd be into it and so that okay i'm

01:22:02.220 crossing an ocean it's a little different but it's a little bit like that it's fascinating

01:22:05.800 and so i mean if you could do the whole thing people powered wow yeah just it would be then

01:22:11.780 you create you get so creative it's like right it does it makes you more creative because it

01:22:16.180 makes you feel like you have support yeah and once you have the support you're not thinking

01:22:19.820 about those types of things but you also start thinking of ways to give back but in your own way

01:22:23.880 yes not by turning up to be in an appearance but by in my way writing or or making art or whatever

01:22:29.940 it is you know and in your case making you know having good conversations yeah good conversations

01:22:34.820 with um with with um strange people strange people yeah strange like people but no even

01:22:40.740 you having this conversation right now makes me think that i should go look through the patreons

01:22:43.920 and like find ones that i can donate to or things that we can do like and we think about that all

01:22:48.280 the time you know like um we started doing a thing for single miles we always we talk about

01:22:51.880 that on here a lot but um we're gonna start doing a thing for like cleaning ladies where we're gonna

01:22:55.980 do like a surprise game show in a in the hotel room for the cleaning lady who comes in like she's

01:23:00.120 not gonna know that there's like hidden cameras and stuff and then like there's gonna be an 0.58

01:23:03.040 announcement in the room and she's gonna have like so much time to find money that's hidden in the 1.00

01:23:06.800 room but then she'll be messing up the room which she then is gonna have to clean up that's twisted

01:23:11.500 it is twisted but it'll be like a nice you know it'll be like a nice fun way and we'll think of

01:23:16.480 like some way to like make it cute and make it sweet to her you know like so it's but it's like

01:23:20.600 you know where it's like oh you're just doing your job but then now suddenly you can make some extra

01:23:24.860 money and it's like a fun thing you know there used to be this tv show in england i loved and

01:23:28.840 they would take people to doing ordinary jobs and mess with them like a pizza delivery guy and they

01:23:34.940 go here's large sums of money if you can throw these pizzas into the open windows and then they

01:23:41.940 would take say your favorite teddy or your favorite shoes or your favorite armchair and then go and

01:23:46.720 dangle it by helicopter over the thames going how much is it worth and sometimes drop it anyway

01:23:51.440 which was just evil but great viewing yeah yeah some some they just killed a pizza guy for his

01:23:57.680 car the other day so that's like an american game show version of that i think that's real life

01:24:02.360 yeah that's a little different but a couple guys ordered a pizza and then they shot the guy and

01:24:06.980 and went and ate it.

01:24:08.740 We have other questions

01:24:09.740 that I called in.

01:24:10.420 Sorry to take it there.

01:24:11.980 Sorry to take it.

01:24:12.100 You just went dark

01:24:12.700 for a minute there.

01:24:13.520 You know,

01:24:14.040 when I can't communicate 1.00

01:24:14.800 with women, 0.89

01:24:15.360 sometimes my key 1.00

01:24:16.260 is just to say

01:24:16.840 something very dark.

01:24:18.040 See if they run away.

01:24:19.580 Yeah.

01:24:20.040 It's just my nature.

01:24:21.280 There's something

01:24:21.460 wrong with me.

01:24:22.100 She's still here.

01:24:24.360 Do you have any

01:24:25.180 safety preparations

01:24:26.300 for when you get

01:24:27.020 to the edge of the earth

01:24:28.120 and you just slide off?

01:24:31.300 Like a tow rope?

01:24:35.280 And that is the whitest 0.54

01:24:36.460 eddie bravo i've ever seen in my life um that's one of our that's one of our uh our colors he's

01:24:42.580 not but that's through the fan line right yep yep that's through the live race fan line people

01:24:47.400 can submit video questions yeah what are you gonna are you well i used to believe in a flat

01:24:51.760 earth society i was really fascinated by this group of people called the flat earth society

01:24:55.780 oh we've had we've had one of the biggest 12 proprietors of them on here well if you've been

01:24:59.780 to the you know the space museum and in florida and you look at these things you go really that

01:25:04.860 went into space it's made out of you know tinfoil oh it's horrible and cotton wool oh it's a ford

01:25:09.120 festiva how did that get up there yeah how did it even get through the stratosphere and not burn up

01:25:14.080 into you know just like melted pot of whatever yeah i don't it like it looks like that thing

01:25:18.300 couldn't make it through two summers in birmingham alabama you know it's barely holding up in the

01:25:22.100 museum you know it's really true though it's like that is a good case for the flat earth you know

01:25:27.940 and the whole thing was clearly like faked in hollywood no one man has been on the moon you

01:25:31.820 Well, look, with things that they could do, I wouldn't be surprised if that could have happened, for sure.

01:25:37.700 But were you actually a flat earther at some point?

01:25:40.040 I mean, in tongue-in-cheek.

01:25:42.500 Right, but you considered, and even you, though, being out on the water that much.

01:25:46.840 Well, it is trippy because you can see 24 miles on a good day.

01:25:52.080 And that's because the earth is round, you lose the visibility.

01:25:55.540 And so, yeah, you know, some days it's like curtains opened and you can see miles.

01:26:01.820 and then other days it's really close just the atmosphere changes and you can feel quite trapped

01:26:07.620 in by the clouds really and then and then when it breaks open it's like this huge release

01:26:12.220 it's really strange and so some days you can see further and some days you can't do you think

01:26:16.640 that's because you're going like on a certain little moment in the earth where it's like a

01:26:21.460 little flatter like a little bump no it's just and it's just conditions it's it's the density

01:26:26.800 the air it's the clouds how low they are how high they are but there are moments where you feel

01:26:30.280 like this could be flat this i could see why people could think this could be flat yeah so

01:26:34.660 my rowing partner in the atlantic had never flown to america and he's gonna row there well i learned

01:26:39.960 this halfway and i was like oh my god you must feel like christopher columbus discovering a new

01:26:44.100 world you have actually no concept of distance yeah because if you've been in a plane say to

01:26:49.380 japan i think what is 12 hours and so if you row it then you can go okay you you've got the time

01:26:55.660 zones you can you can picture it in your mind but if you hadn't flown it then it could feel endless

01:27:01.100 yeah and daunting and scary and you just shut down and go on the cabin yeah there are days

01:27:06.420 where you were just like i'm going in the cabin leave me alone for a few days no no i'm i mean

01:27:13.180 i've got to a point now so i'm designing a new boat and with this new boat potentially i could

01:27:18.160 challenge the men's record really and that's really exciting so now we're now we're getting

01:27:22.360 Suddenly we've got, like, optimized performance.

01:27:24.680 So that's one of the things that you'd like to do. 0.98

01:27:26.260 You'd like to challenge a men's record. 0.99

01:27:27.500 Well, it's impossible. 0.96

01:27:29.920 I'd like to see anybody beat the French for any reason. 1.00

01:27:32.580 So I support that. 1.00

01:27:34.940 I mean, getting across, full stop.

01:27:37.020 Getting across alive is the main priority.

01:27:39.900 Land to land, not getting towed.

01:27:41.960 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:42.500 And being the first woman is the cherry. 0.94

01:27:45.580 But actually beating the men's would be far more significant. 0.56

01:27:48.580 Do you think, like, men feel like it's tough to, like, say if a man has attracted you,

01:27:52.360 like there you get stuff like that makes them nervous probably having a woman am i intimidating

01:27:56.320 i don't know i don't feel like you are but i feel like you definitely could be

01:28:00.280 i feel like if things got like you know if we were like on a on a boat or like even in just like a

01:28:06.580 like even if we were in the shower together and like there was an earthquake i feel like things

01:28:10.260 could get really really you would definitely be the captain and i would definitely be

01:28:13.160 like the third mate well i think the thing that's intimidating is i don't need

01:28:18.160 a man right you know that's the that's the thing that the male don't right there's this old thing

01:28:24.540 inside of a man's head where it's like we want to be the one to be able to help a woman through

01:28:29.400 the storm i guess yeah provide the caretaker and not have to have the woman and fend off the bears

01:28:36.700 you know yeah or sharks yeah that's so the biggest turnoff for me is taking a man on a boat and

01:28:44.020 watching him plunder around and be useless right like that's just uh you know i just want to do

01:28:49.200 you sometimes have to pretend that you can't do stuff so that men can feel of use have you ever

01:28:52.800 done that no i never do you wouldn't i just don't take him out in a boat because it's like i'll see

01:28:57.780 another side of you and i just instantly won't like you i would be literally hammering a plank

01:29:03.520 to the boat so i could walk off of it i'd bring a blindfold out one four by four and a hammer and

01:29:11.480 a nail but if you don't even try and you just sit there with a nice bottle of wine and offer me 0.98

01:29:14.860 sips that's fine that's what don't even try right you know but don't be that crazy guy that's out 0.96

01:29:19.960 there yeah don't go oh what can i do oh like that's so unattractive hard to starboard and you're 0.99

01:29:25.460 like what the fuck are you talking about you know what i'm saying we haven't even done we haven't 0.98

01:29:28.920 even left yet we're still in the car we're still in the uber on the way to the beach but if i go 0.99

01:29:33.960 on a guy's boat then i just you know i you're the captain you're the master you're the you run the

01:29:39.220 ship i'm just going to be a passenger yeah and i'm good at switching that off you are yeah just

01:29:44.000 being the passenger yeah if they're competent right if they're not competent then i'm getting

01:29:48.960 off yeah but it's tricky working in my world because my it's a lot of men yeah i have a 200

01:29:56.040 ton captain's license i could basically uh drive a cross-channel ferry and most of my peers are

01:30:02.260 50 something year old men and yeah so do you feel like danica patrick sometimes

01:30:07.220 uh in what way like just that like she kind of was in when it went into a field that was like

01:30:13.620 predominantly man or like you know it's kind of this old sort of boys club yeah it i mean you're

01:30:18.680 fighting the tide and so predominantly i run boats by myself yeah and then hire boys to help me

01:30:24.880 does that ever feel kind of empowering a little bit it feels slightly wrong i bet it does like i

01:30:31.800 need help moving stuff hey antonio do you name them all antonio i would

01:30:35.880 i definitely would it sounds very kinky it sounds like something uh we have a couple more questions

01:30:45.420 that came in um nick can you uh find something else pretty neat yes sir thanks so whenever you're

01:30:51.100 in the middle of a room you know you're at the bottom of the barrel of your energy and you're

01:30:55.460 feeling exhausted what are some of the mental tricks that you use you know how do you tap into

01:31:00.280 that navy seal mindset whenever you've got no energy left what do you do what do you tell

01:31:05.400 yourself to push through those plateaus and you know overcome those boundaries thanks looking

01:31:11.020 forward to show yeah when you're at that when you're at that moment what do you do i think the

01:31:15.740 best thing is to laugh really but you actually remember that like i know we say we do things but 1.00

01:31:20.080 you do that yeah i remind myself that i chose to be there and i go you chose to be there you idiot 1.00

01:31:25.120 you know and that breaks the the seal on that you know downward spiral have you ever been hit by 1.00

01:31:31.540 lightning or not no but i've had lightning crack the water right by a boat and i did think that

01:31:38.520 would make my nuts bust right out of my bag it would scare me so much and i was really annoyed

01:31:42.060 with myself because on that particular trip i'd looked at buying a rescue beacon like the week

01:31:46.300 before this was a paid delivery that i was with the owner was down below i taught him to navigate

01:31:51.060 yesterday he was jewish and a cardiovascular surgeon to his shop right but he was navigating

01:31:57.440 now having learned yesterday oh right and and he's saying he can do it he's doing it you know

01:32:04.160 we're one mile from a reef and we're this is off long island you know those storms that come rolling

01:32:09.200 off the new york sometimes not surprised and yeah there's just wicked lightning around and the boat's

01:32:13.540 almost lifting off it's being almost airborne and i'm just annoyed with myself going oh you're gonna 1.00

01:32:19.560 die because of that you didn't spend 800 bucks last week you idiot because that instrument would 0.98

01:32:26.480 have what diverted the yeah rescue people oh alerted rescue people yeah we could have got saved 1.00

01:32:32.060 we were not going to get saved at that point if i didn't drive the boat in a certain way and he

01:32:35.840 didn't keep us off the reef uh we were in very very bad trouble do you have one of those guns

01:32:40.440 that can shoot the thing the flares uh i know a kid that started a forest fire with one of those

01:32:45.860 actually and that kid is still they don't know who he is and i'm not going to say his name

01:32:50.080 but he don't always go off oh this one went off dude this one went off to the tune of about

01:32:55.980 probably i would say 6 000 trees this dude oh wow took care of some acres boy you know i'm saying 0.99

01:33:02.600 this guy definitely won't he don't fuck with even matches he won't even blow out a birthday cake 0.99

01:33:06.640 anymore he's that weary of it he's been burnt oh dude he doesn't even know how old he is he does 0.99

01:33:10.820 not even know how old he is just out of sheer fear most guys go through a little arsenic phase of

01:33:14.860 trying to burn stuff oh i think my brother did i threw a wine bottle uh off of an interstate off

01:33:21.580 of a bridge over an interstate once at um how did that work out it hit a buick or crown victoria

01:33:27.840 so but so that was like my arson phase no actual fire but just angry you know 0.97

01:33:33.100 yeah there's no arson in that just like angry with a fucking cabernet that's his confession 0.86

01:33:39.640 for the day that was it dude i was in atlanta drank half of the bottle and then just threw 0.96

01:33:44.480 that bastard but do not do this at home and we reassure this is a long time ago and this is 0.67

01:33:49.020 before people were doing that kind of stuff now everybody's doing that kind of stuff well that's 1.00

01:33:52.320 why they have fencing up on the side of bridges to avoid people like you complete assholes 0.97

01:33:57.620 dude it's that aggressive recycling aggressive recycling that's really what it is um what was 0.97

01:34:05.600 a question that just came in i even forgot what it was well what's your navy seal oh yeah so what

01:34:11.120 is your mindset when you get down to that point yeah you you well you just either just deal with

01:34:15.120 it you know you've got the experience to get yourself out of this pickle that you got yourself 0.99

01:34:18.540 into are things ever so bad you're just like oh fuck it i'm gonna go take a nap downstairs 0.98

01:34:21.860 sometimes that is the best solution yeah sometimes um just sleeping and stopping is resets everything 0.97

01:34:28.060 uh like the other day i was fighting my way off the coast and in a training row and i threw out

01:34:34.580 the anchor and i was like i just need to stop rowing and then everything will be good and i

01:34:38.700 spoke to a friend who didn't have any clue that i was on anchor and i was going through this

01:34:43.780 and who said something or other about you know you're really great we're gonna help you do this

01:34:47.900 and that just lifted my spirits oh that's good so that was really good it's amazing what human

01:34:51.500 connection can do sometimes huh yes when you get out there do you like can you call your mom or

01:34:56.020 what can you do yes the satellite phones are still pretty primitive so you have a satellite phone it's

01:35:01.780 like a brick um you you call it you spend the first ten dollars going hello hello can you hear

01:35:07.900 me oh that's so much fun and then uh that's it you know um but you have there's a text device

01:35:15.300 now so you can send text messages like on a mobile phone but the problem with that is you have to

01:35:20.120 retrain people because you can't just send a text followed by another text because that will you

01:35:24.380 know it's going to go by satellite that'll block me for 24 hours and if you've got a text for 160 0.71

01:35:29.680 characters use them you know if i'm gonna see receive one text in a day yeah don't write good

01:35:35.620 progress that's really irritating wow and is it kind of night is that what's it like being so

01:35:42.880 connected it's it's hard to get unconnected now isn't it oh yeah i'd rather not take a phone in

01:35:47.280 many ways but it's so hard for us to get disconnected isn't it and still be and the

01:35:52.540 more money you take the more sponsorship you have the more connectivity they want yes they want they

01:35:57.380 want to live stream yeah you know they want to see me get undressed and row every day and

01:36:01.520 who is this porn yeah i was blaring on that pacific by the way is cold i'll be wearing

01:36:07.300 is it really yeah it's not it's not um alaska cold but it's between alaska and hawaii so it's

01:36:12.740 temperate yeah but there'll be cold days and warm days and i predominantly won't what kind

01:36:17.420 of sunscreen do you wear like spf what 650 oh i put 50 on my face i drink the spf milkshakes

01:36:22.960 like you must cover up 1 000 yeah dude i also i would not only would i wear sunscreen i would also

01:36:30.900 go like this a lot of times big hat it is so hot yeah we're a big hat what kind of birds you see

01:36:36.760 out there vultures ever buzzards uh they're seabirds and they live on the sea really yeah

01:36:41.660 and so there are these ones that look like pterodactyls and there's a lot of those

01:36:46.420 out have you ever seen a pelican oh there's tons of them around that's cool uh that's my state bird

01:36:52.280 i saw a lot of albatross in the southern ocean oh really they're amazing i don't like they're

01:36:56.680 like giant super-sized seagulls yeah and when there's not much wind it's like watching your

01:37:00.820 christmas your thanksgiving turkey trying to take off yeah splosh and then they go it wasn't me it

01:37:06.380 wasn't me i didn't fail they're like the greyhound boss of seagulls yeah they're basically this big 0.95

01:37:11.160 huge fucking air shrimp um look can we get another question please hey what's up theo uh i'm long 0.83

01:37:17.800 on fans. So I actually 0.98

01:37:19.220 did a really weird question because

01:37:21.020 I just went kayaking this weekend

01:37:23.340 in the San Juan Islands in Washington.

01:37:25.820 I saw some, I saw

01:37:27.480 two killer whales, saw some

01:37:29.320 gray whales, but now

01:37:31.460 I've got, I got the bug

01:37:33.500 that I really want to go kayaking all the time.

01:37:35.880 My guy that I was with today,

01:37:37.660 the guy that he took me around

01:37:39.440 and he knew everything about the currents

01:37:41.140 and where to go. So my

01:37:43.280 question for Leah is like, is

01:37:45.300 this something I need to be

01:37:46.840 living with for a while

01:37:48.960 and he's trained to do this

01:37:50.720 but this is something I can pick up pretty quickly

01:37:53.000 yeah like can that guy

01:37:55.180 just get in a vessel like yours

01:37:56.860 if he headed out

01:37:58.640 would he have a chance

01:37:59.580 some chance

01:38:02.620 a percentage chance

01:38:03.960 I mean knowing the water

01:38:06.460 is really helpful

01:38:08.120 it's like you could fly a plane right

01:38:10.180 but air currents and

01:38:12.180 weather systems will mean

01:38:14.540 that you probably survive better

01:38:16.480 if not just survive knowing that because it's not just there's so much more going on on top of the

01:38:22.100 water right well actually also underwater so the the big revelation for me in in rowing now rather

01:38:28.160 than sailing is how much the topography underwater makes a difference like all of these canyons

01:38:33.100 yeah and underwater mountains create current patterns and ripples and stuff that i feel

01:38:39.040 Isn't that phenomenal?

01:38:39.640 So the water is just wet air, really?

01:38:44.500 Yeah, I guess.

01:38:45.780 Deep space, like down space.

01:38:50.400 Do you ever feel like the water is the world and that the air is the...

01:38:55.640 I think it's two layers.

01:38:57.520 So when I get in to clean the water and I discover this whole ecosystem

01:39:00.360 underneath the surface, I do think there's the land layer

01:39:06.000 and then there's the ocean layer.

01:39:07.400 And we, as humans, are only capable of going so far in it, but there's so much more.

01:39:13.600 And there's no light.

01:39:15.120 So the creatures down here have no color.

01:39:17.900 Scary, I bet.

01:39:19.020 And they look so prehistoric and gnarly.

01:39:22.380 Like there's one chapter in my book where you can go in a submarine as a passenger,

01:39:28.640 and they go down 600 feet to where there are creatures with no names.

01:39:33.800 no so every time they go down they see something that hasn't even been you know seen diagnosed

01:39:41.180 prescribed as species that are unwritten off the textbooks and so there is so i think this is the

01:39:47.040 final frontier for discovery you know we've got air pretty much mapped we're big in space but

01:39:52.120 the sea okay some some was it james cameron went down to the marianas trench but that's it

01:39:57.680 there's all of this other stuff this underwater well canyons and trenches and stuff is that

01:40:03.500 scare you at all you think i think it's really exciting i hear my excitement i can i'll be like

01:40:08.280 down there driving and whoa what is all the stuff you know i feel like if i had to go across the

01:40:12.120 ocean it would have to be with somebody like you because you seem like i have a really good

01:40:14.920 disposition like what makes you like when do you when do you lose it you know like when do you 0.87

01:40:19.760 fucking lose it uh really only because of things i've done yeah so i didn't listen to myself like 0.83

01:40:29.360 Like I knew I shouldn't go out today and I knew the wind was going to switch 0.98

01:40:32.540 and I just went anyway.

01:40:34.820 And that's when I get annoyed.

01:40:36.620 It's not because of anything that happens.

01:40:38.780 Like are you a perfectionist, do you think?

01:40:41.120 Not really.

01:40:41.700 It's just I want to, I should know better, my better judgment.

01:40:44.740 It's like if you, yeah, you know, like you knew you should get up in the morning

01:40:51.080 at a certain hour and you didn't.

01:40:52.380 You know, you get annoyed with yourself because now you've screwed up your whole day.

01:40:55.940 Yeah, and you've got syrup all in your bed because you're eating there.

01:40:58.500 yeah i wouldn't go that far but i yeah i went out to the first time i went to try and do this

01:41:03.120 farallon record i told the media i was going so they made it this huge deal oh and then the day

01:41:08.060 came and the marine layer which is this fog that gets sucked in because desert heats up

01:41:12.040 was in oh yeah my grandfather was a cigarette smoker so i know what you're talking about so

01:41:16.160 you need the marine layer so six in the morning i knew it was a bust now what do you do take

01:41:21.160 on a normal day i just would have gone okay well this land this fog is now in i should not go out

01:41:26.360 there but you did it anyway i did it anyway because all of the you know the photographer

01:41:30.180 was booked and there was going to be this big shebang and it ended up being in the front and

01:41:33.780 back the san francisco chronicle and i was like a disaster i'll just do it sort of so i go under

01:41:39.380 the golden gate bridge and i go okay just reset your mind you're going for a road it'll be fine

01:41:43.060 you'll learn things so i go out there and they check in about three in the afternoon going how's

01:41:47.980 it going and quite clearly i'm not getting off the coast because the marine layer is pressing me on

01:41:52.380 the coast so you're just out there rowing against the marine layer rowing against so the marine

01:41:56.960 layer has this wind funnel that comes on it and i got stuck in that and i couldn't bust through it

01:42:01.300 so i'm coming back through the gate and um i'm really annoyed with myself you know why did you

01:42:06.740 do it why did you try and trying to put myself back together the humiliation of it i had openly

01:42:12.560 allowed myself to be humiliated and i get back to the dock and there's a family that's about

01:42:17.380 pounce on me like with young children they're excited yeah they're excited and they look like

01:42:21.580 they've come down to see me in and i'm in no state to really meet and greet and i barely tied up the

01:42:27.100 boat and already on me and it turns out that they'd seen me in the paper and the grandmother

01:42:32.000 had told their six-year-old and the six-year-old was like i gotta see this i gotta see this and

01:42:35.820 this child looked at me like i was a disney princess and inside i'm going oh and hands me

01:42:41.720 this pink note and this pink note i open it up and it says i admire you for trying

01:42:47.600 you'll do it next time and i just melted oh wow and it's like this is why this is confirmation of

01:42:54.800 why i do what i do is like i possibly changed the life direction of that six-year-old girl on that

01:43:01.360 day right i blew open the world of possibility yeah yeah and that she confirmed for me that it

01:43:07.240 was worth it yeah like i'd gone out there i'd done something that was usually vulnerable i had failed

01:43:11.940 i'd failed publicly and i'd come back in and some six-year-old with glowing eyes tells you that you

01:43:17.220 that she admires you for trying yeah oof you know it lifts you up yeah yeah and it keeps your heart

01:43:25.080 pumping so so you know it's so true it's so true too you know just that the to know and the victory

01:43:33.580 is in trying like that's one thing that i've realized over the years like the victory is in

01:43:37.680 trying like so few people um achieve you know like penultimate like successes and things you know

01:43:45.500 and there's so few spaces for that too you know like there's only one person's gonna be like a

01:43:50.100 richard pryor you know in my world in my comedy world only one person's gonna be you know captain

01:43:56.340 ahab or um who's the lady from um with the spangled off or the mermaid little mermaid

01:44:03.480 aragel you know only one person what is that it ariel ariel yeah sorry i don't know who aragel

01:44:11.620 he made it up i wouldn't roll i rolled with it it sounded good but it's like maybe that's her full

01:44:16.280 name and i don't know it because i'm not american and you live near disneyland you just created

01:44:23.700 something there oh dude we got in a car accident right outside of disney world once um but yeah 0.94

01:44:28.380 so like but yeah it's like but trying is the thing yeah i mean that's the that's the fucking 0.73

01:44:33.660 look at you now like that guy uh thomas gave you a thousand bucks yeah and you could have just gone 0.63

01:44:38.740 and done nothing with it or got it and you gave it a go and that is actually huge yeah and the

01:44:45.360 thing is it but if yeah and without somebody making you feel like you can try like without

01:44:51.140 him telling me that i don't make that leap you know i don't make that okay i'm gonna get a studio

01:44:56.480 i could right but i i don't know if i do i don't i don't i don't i don't know if i do yeah you know

01:45:02.380 so it is it's instrumental then like wow we need that's why we need we need each other we can help

01:45:08.540 each other yes yes we can help that is i'd say the scariest part of like this whole project was

01:45:13.220 that point where you go i'm gonna say it out loud like i remember do you remember that day when you

01:45:17.040 go i'm gonna do this podcasting you know and you you start telling people gauging their reactions

01:45:22.480 and you're scared that people are gonna go no shut that down like that's a bad idea get out of 0.69

01:45:26.640 that headspace but then it's sort of slightly you're a pervert and then you go okay okay i'm

01:45:31.440 committed i'm actually gonna do it i bought equipment you know yeah and then that's the

01:45:36.440 beginning and then in a way that's scarier people always say when you depart japan isn't that

01:45:41.160 terrifying i go no it's gonna be a blessed relief i'll be like good thank god all this work all this

01:45:45.940 training i'm just gonna leave now yeah no you're so you know what it's so funny that's yeah

01:45:51.020 everything else is you're doing it yes at that point you're doing it but it's the trying in the

01:45:56.120 end that was the most fun too yeah like this is great like it's really neat to learn about

01:46:00.360 you know your universe and you know i'll be able to lay in bed at night or you know in in a safe

01:46:05.340 manner. Look, I'm talking about with my hands tied behind my head, nothing lewd, you know.

01:46:13.440 And I'm also, I think, seven days clean from masturbation right now, six days clean, but that's 0.96

01:46:18.580 a different story. Is that a fasting thing? It's like fasting for your hands, basically.

01:46:23.380 Did you get tendinitis? Is that why you had to stop?

01:46:26.700 I just don't have the healthiest. Like, I just started like not doing it well over the, not bad.

01:46:31.560 i was still functional um i just like yeah like i i i just i've done it enough so i don't want to

01:46:38.380 masturbate anymore like i didn't have a problem but i didn't i was just doing it out of habit

01:46:43.220 than i was out of like oh i'm gonna do like a sexual enjoyment here it became part of your

01:46:47.960 daily routine no it became part of my like bi daily routine well i yeah every yeah but yeah

01:46:54.400 daily yeah i just don't want to say i wasn't somebody who was like running around pulling

01:46:58.680 off the side of the road and masturbating i never had that's a problem then i'd say that's a problem

01:47:02.200 that's a problem earlier this year i ran out of testosterone did you really trained to the point 0.61

01:47:06.460 where i depleted my testosterone and now i could you know barely motivated to get up in the morning

01:47:11.680 it's a really useful thing this testosterone well i heard you mention hgh earlier and i didn't ask

01:47:16.480 about it but so did you start having to get injections no no no of course not but one day

01:47:22.060 i did test 200 in high school and i couldn't fit into an abercrombie shirt that's for damn sure

01:47:26.480 dude but one day i ran out of olive oil and so i started cooking with butter and it came back

01:47:30.720 seriously are you serious it turns out that you need some cholesterol to make testosterone yeah

01:47:36.380 and yeah cooking with butter brought it all back and i had this conversation when nutritionist he 0.99

01:47:41.220 goes well how do you know and i go because i'm horny yeah oh a good biscuit make me fucking 0.99

01:47:46.760 erect that's for damn sure boy a good biscuit did you say you catch me outside of a crackle 1.00

01:47:51.700 crackle barrel i'll fuck in i'll fuck anything outside of a crackle barrel um so yeah so i think 1.00

01:47:57.060 i'm not sure that you could be that horny at sea if you are putting all of your effort into the 1.00

01:48:02.220 rowing because you're depleting the the very thing that makes you feel that way that makes you feel

01:48:06.220 erogenous yes so i guess if you're storm bound for a couple of days and you start to bounce back

01:48:10.840 you know the hormone levels rise does the sea feel like a man or a woman does it have like a male or

01:48:14.940 female vibe to it i like that question uh i think i always think of mother nature right me too and

01:48:22.000 i have huge respect for the ocean i'm not afraid of it but i it's it's a force of power have you

01:48:27.980 ever been out in a wave oh i fear i've always not enjoyed swimming um even going out with jay

01:48:34.980 more and going out like just in doing that paddle boarding out in the ocean was fascinating to me

01:48:40.020 seeing like the seaweed at the top of the water and realizing oh it's not just trees under there

01:48:44.520 Yes. 0.99

01:48:44.860 I thought it was just a shitty fucking plant. 1.00

01:48:47.260 I thought it was just the fucking devil's beard hair that just keeps washing up on the shore. 1.00

01:48:52.280 But it is a plant that's just growing. 0.99

01:48:54.940 And now we're at the top of a tree.

01:48:56.900 Like 50 feet high.

01:48:57.740 Yeah.

01:48:57.860 I'm at the top of a really weird tree.

01:49:00.360 Yeah.

01:49:00.720 I think you get scared by the ocean just because it's not your world.

01:49:04.020 Like if I went into a really wild forest, I'd be on edge going, well, I don't know what creatures could jump me.

01:49:10.380 yeah and but a nightclub also feels way more foreign and uncomfortable to me than the ocean 0.98

01:49:15.680 that's like a forest with people who could jump you and talk things yeah like damn these trees 0.87

01:49:20.300 are on dope yeah they're unpredictable uh that tree has it's putting glow sticks in its bottom 0.93

01:49:26.500 you know but but to some extent like the ocean the people behaving weirdly in nightclub is

01:49:30.960 predictable yeah so that's a good point yeah i mean if you spend as much time on the ocean you

01:49:35.780 get more comfortable with it it's like a second home like there's the land existence and then

01:49:39.780 as the sea existence and i'm almost more complete out there yeah my life is sorted i know i'm very

01:49:45.740 strong and decision i make decisions very quickly in a way i don't on land like i can barely decide

01:49:52.180 what to wear in the morning you know yeah so i just yeah i wonder how i'd be out on out on the

01:49:56.540 sea you know but i think it's fascinating for everybody to lose sight of shore and for i mean

01:50:03.120 imagine being five months by yourself alone with no sight of anybody or anything like that's quite

01:50:09.060 fascinating just alone regardless of the rowing yeah and you have that experience well i haven't

01:50:14.660 i was with somebody else i've been a month i've been one month by myself on various ocean races

01:50:19.940 what are you worried you're going to find out about yourself like any deep dark secrets that

01:50:22.800 you were gonna that you don't that you don't think you would like are you going to get to 0.82

01:50:25.960 the other side and be like a lesbian are you going to want to be mayor i don't think so yeah um i 0.86

01:50:32.560 think i'll discover the beauty small beauties in in life and a lot that you take for granted for 0.95

01:50:38.220 granted yeah the one thing when you get back to sea you just have no time for people who are late

01:50:42.360 and no time for like frivolous crap yeah like hurry up with that and don't stress over this

01:50:48.680 it's just not worth it you realize the the huge wealth in health being well and i love that and

01:50:56.120 love as well yeah it's important yeah the value of each other yeah wow it's interesting how being

01:51:02.480 alone for that long can then help you realize the value of that you know or the value of good people

01:51:06.860 yeah because if you filter out everything and then you send me a text and that's the only

01:51:10.740 message i get is like a letter yeah and i open it and and i'm connecting with you even though

01:51:15.520 i'm like millions of miles away and it's just a text in your ordinary day but it has so much

01:51:19.900 meaning to me you ever get like any like booty calls out there like you up you know i mean only

01:51:27.060 if i solicit them okay it's 4 a.m and you're like you're just on a soft tide out there in the middle

01:51:34.540 of nowhere and you just get a u up you're like what is going on yeah i think the text that you

01:51:40.100 want to receive coming caught four categories the first one is information you know you're

01:51:44.380 there's a big storm coming this way you know you need to battle down and and be prepared for it

01:51:48.900 and then the next one is entertainment like the best text you could receive might be

01:51:53.380 i fell asleep last night with the light on and a pair of scissors in my right hand

01:51:57.440 i mean you could spend a whole day thinking about what the hell that meant or last night i went out

01:52:02.280 date night with my wife and we went to this great italian place and she had tiramisu yeah

01:52:06.220 and it's not it's not janet got tiramisu it's not you're doing great right yeah hurry up well

01:52:13.940 done congratulations it's it's little stories like that that that you can take that will just

01:52:19.120 your imagination will run away with ah really great is it nice to have your imagination again

01:52:23.480 i feel like you i feel like my mind runs away yeah like i told my niece about her imagination

01:52:28.260 and she's like what is imagination no she said that and she's very imaginative she didn't know

01:52:33.800 she just i guess i don't know if you know if people are even talking about it anymore

01:52:37.300 she's like is it is it a you know she like looked at my phone i'm like no it's not your phone it's

01:52:42.280 like a well that's the benefit of books over uh tv because in a book you fill in everything and 0.98

01:52:47.900 just being by yourself out there i bet your brain just like sprouts new fucking wings yeah i bet 0.99

01:52:53.460 your brain just takes a fucking can relax you come up with more crazy things to do though 0.99

01:52:58.140 that's the problem oh that's so wild so after i rode the pacific i'm actually going to reenact it 0.99

01:53:03.020 on sand dunes in the nevada desert no you're not yeah okay yeah really yeah so i i've done this

01:53:09.780 before so i studied fine art and then after i sailed across the atlantic in the race i went

01:53:14.480 and reenacted the crossing outside the tate britain gallery in london as a performance artwork so i i

01:53:19.480 was on my boat beached basically out of the water for a month without getting off eating the same

01:53:25.460 food in the middle of london which was harder to achieve than getting the boat to america because

01:53:31.180 i had to get permission from mi6 and real and at night did like homeless people come by and just

01:53:35.900 i had security guard you did yeah people you know drunk people spilling out the pub would shout

01:53:40.420 lewd things really yeah it was it was one of the summers of the world cup football so i was really

01:53:47.220 lonely while everyone was watching football i bet but i had amazing conversations with people

01:53:53.440 And I actually, you know, I never felt so lonely as I did stuck on that boat in London.

01:53:57.160 Wow.

01:53:57.700 Then I never feel that in the ocean because I have incredible scenery and have wildlife and I have a text machine so I can send text.

01:54:06.240 I love it.

01:54:07.240 Yeah.

01:54:07.900 It's fascinating.

01:54:09.480 Any other good questions you want to put one more through, Nick?

01:54:11.720 We kind of answered them all through the flow of the conversation, the ones that I thought were good.

01:54:16.600 That's fascinating.

01:54:18.300 What about the ones that were bad?

01:54:19.960 no no i i don't mean to go there but are there some bad ones there's there's one for sure do

01:54:27.280 we want to um yeah all right i mean if we can always take this part out if it's too bad

01:54:31.840 i haven't heard all these okay here's uh probably the worst

01:54:37.120 hey theo and leah it's uh lucas here from ottawa canada theo sorry to hear you're not

01:54:44.740 coming to toronto i was looking forward to seeing you but regardless i'm just hanging out here got

01:54:48.200 some chicken in the oven i just had a long weekend of kicking down doors and taking down fours but

01:54:52.120 question for you with the rowing do you find that with the strength you obviously have in your

01:54:56.640 forearms and your biceps leah does that give you a little more torque for hand jobs i'm not sure

01:55:01.500 if it's something you've been taking in 2018 but just curious if you got any feedback from any male

01:55:05.380 parties on that activity i told you okay well this guy is canadian and not allowed in our country

01:55:11.000 anymore i'd like to say that um do you notice uh but i'll take some i'll take something from that

01:55:16.720 question do you notice like a like skills when you get back home you're like oh this is so easy

01:55:21.100 like i am i'm cycling oh really yeah yeah you get on a bike and your legs just go round and round

01:55:27.000 you go whoa suddenly so easy just you have great thigh muscles you're thied up yeah glutes and your 0.83

01:55:34.500 butt is just a machine like on a plane crash you'd be the first one eating like people would eat you

01:55:39.660 they cook you first you'd be like oh we're definitely having that tonight well don't you 0.92

01:55:43.220 want the fattiest first i don't think so i don't want some big gristly sister or brother out there

01:55:48.040 you know what i'm saying i want to ham down on something freaking nice well you'd have to beat 0.98

01:55:51.680 it you have to tenderize it first i'm not gonna hit a woman look i'll eat a lady's back to man 0.98

01:55:59.980 make fire this is why men barbecue right i'll eat a femur off of you know i'll snack on somebody's 0.98

01:56:05.480 uh you know i'll snack on a glute on a plane victim but i'm not beating a woman 1.00

01:56:10.320 Yeah, tenderize the meat. 1.00

01:56:12.500 I'll let the women tenderize it. 1.00

01:56:14.280 After I rode the Atlantic, my friend in London, who's a Shiatsu Masa, 1.00

01:56:17.480 he was like, Jesus, look at the size of your hands. 1.00

01:56:19.220 And, of course, I immediately went like this.

01:56:20.900 But, you know, you're growing muscles in your hands.

01:56:23.280 No.

01:56:23.580 Yeah, you are.

01:56:24.160 Like my hands.

01:56:25.000 I pity anyone who wants to marry me because I have big hands.

01:56:28.220 Wow.

01:56:28.680 Yeah, you're going to spend an extra couple grand on an extra centimeter of ring.

01:56:32.400 Yeah. 0.75

01:56:33.300 But rowing, there's a huge misconception that rowing is upper body.

01:56:36.720 It's not.

01:56:37.100 So if you row a boat on a lake or a river, it's 80% legs, 20% upper body.

01:56:42.680 That's quite heavily the other way.

01:56:45.100 For rowing an ocean, it's about 60, 40, 60 legs, 40% arms because you're getting jostled.

01:56:50.340 Do you feel just jacked when you get home?

01:56:54.280 No, you are stripped of everything.

01:56:56.020 Oh, wow.

01:56:56.440 So you are actually eating your body after a while.

01:56:59.700 Fat first, muscle next, then bone density.

01:57:02.440 Ooh, I'd have that.

01:57:03.900 Depends on where I am.

01:57:04.700 If I were in Thailand, I'd have that marrow first, boy.

01:57:07.100 if somebody was dead and I had to eat them?

01:57:09.360 After running Atlantic, I got jobs modeling in New York.

01:57:11.940 You did?

01:57:12.340 I was skinnier than some of the models.

01:57:13.800 Wow.

01:57:14.460 And I had that tan.

01:57:15.600 Oh, yeah.

01:57:16.240 It's perfect.

01:57:17.200 But I couldn't cope with New York.

01:57:18.620 It was like, I mean, being in solitary confinement to a rock concert.

01:57:22.060 It was just, I just couldn't cope.

01:57:24.200 Oh, I can't imagine the dichotomy, and I don't even know if that's the right word,

01:57:27.720 but of going from a place like the ocean and then being in a busy place like a city.

01:57:32.800 I think I would lose my mind.

01:57:34.980 Yeah, I think a farm somewhere with trees.

01:57:37.100 Green is what you want.

01:57:38.340 Oh, yeah.

01:57:39.340 Green looks so green when you get to it, doesn't it?

01:57:41.700 Yeah, and it smells great, usually.

01:57:44.220 It smells like a garden that's just been freshly washed or freshly rained on. 0.99

01:57:48.180 Oh, I'd just let somebody shoot a fucking bazooka full of fruit straight into my face, dude. 0.99

01:57:52.440 Fruit, yeah. 1.00

01:57:53.100 I would love that.

01:57:53.560 Salad.

01:57:54.360 Anything fresh.

01:57:55.060 In fact, even the word fresh, I enjoy offshore.

01:57:57.580 Fresh.

01:57:58.180 Really?

01:57:58.580 Fresh, yeah.

01:57:59.620 And people's words mean more to you suddenly because you get to hear them?

01:58:02.420 Is there something about that?

01:58:03.320 like hearing someone talk well any of the words that are sent to the boat by messages have so

01:58:08.480 much more meaning oh yeah in fact you have to be really careful what messages get through 0.99

01:58:11.940 because something that's flippant or a joke can be taken completely the wrong way right fuck you 0.52

01:58:17.200 and you're like oh yeah i'm gonna be stewing over this for a month so they need to go in those four 0.96

01:58:22.500 guidelines was it information entertainment and then um love and care like we're really proud of

01:58:27.940 you and i hope you're you know eating and drinking and that kind of stuff and you know what actually

01:58:32.120 that's really what everybody needs information entertainment love and care yeah so that's a good

01:58:36.440 rule for life those are great rules for life um maybe i'll write a handbook off the back of this

01:58:41.720 cool a handbook she said to that last guy who called in so anyway he's right yes i have really

01:58:47.200 strong hands and i've actually thought about doing massage after this but not that kind okay 0.98

01:58:51.300 oh and i'll tell him when i go to a place here i say do not touch my crotch i say that right when 0.96

01:58:55.660 i go in the door i say body only oh like mass any place yeah i say everywhere oh i say it even 0.96

01:59:01.780 And if I just go to the California pizza kitchen, I'll say it.

01:59:05.720 Look, I don't know what you guys are selling.

01:59:07.040 This don't jerk me off in here.

01:59:09.600 But, yeah, I bet you could really come back and you could win a thumb wrestling championship.

01:59:13.320 Yeah, so you have really strong arms.

01:59:14.660 Well, if you ever go on a short row, let me know.

01:59:16.960 Where you want to come?

01:59:17.840 Yeah, I get out there.

01:59:18.720 I would probably want to – yeah, I don't want to do, like, a lot of chores and everything on the boat, though.

01:59:22.980 Well, you'd have to sit where you're told and do nothing because there's no space.

01:59:26.520 Oh, man.

01:59:27.300 So it would be like being in a gondola.

01:59:28.380 You just sit there and you could loll around the cabin drinking beer.

01:59:30.800 and then yeah you'll be fine i could figure something out there we'll take a support boat

01:59:34.840 so that you can get off and go okay five minutes of this i'm done there we go i might need that

01:59:39.140 my whole life this this show is my support boat um leah didn't we can find you uh we'll share all

01:59:46.040 your social media elements and stuff but where can people find you at roly a row row leah row

01:59:51.500 l-i-a yeah like run forest run roly a row roly a row if that came organically people were like

01:59:57.040 roly a row and i'm like that's great i'm gonna use that and that's the same on everything

02:00:02.240 instagram uh patreon is roly a row patreon for forward slash roly row and yeah everything is

02:00:07.900 roly row awesome well we'll make a donation and we will um and we just appreciate you so much for

02:00:13.720 coming in and making me just think about yeah when i think about you i'll just think of like

02:00:17.560 you know like there's just this lady out there on the water you know and she just gets to be in the

02:00:21.740 moonlight it just feels like man i'll be so jealous you know i'm gonna call in i'm gonna

02:00:25.400 me one of the questions for your show that would be fascinating i feel like leah from mid pacific

02:00:30.060 is calling in with a question for your next guest that'd be great to have an update every now and

02:00:34.920 then yeah yeah i'll do it just to hear some uh hear leah rowing um good luck out there thank you

02:00:40.540 yeah thank you so much for uh for coming in and chatting with me thanks yeah chatting with all of

02:00:44.800 us yeah including the guy in canada yeah oh wow there you go guy ottawa that guy's just cooking

02:00:52.380 some chicken, he said. What a creep, huh? Who's cooking some chicken and just asking

02:00:56.520 people about perverted questions? 0.99

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This Past Weekend with Theo Von - August 30, 2018

Ocean Rower Lia Ditton ｜ This Past Weekend #126

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