In this episode, we catch up with one of the most legendary rock drummers in the rock and roll game, Bishop Gun. We talk about his first experience with the Rolling Stones, his first gig with them, and the craziest thing he ever did on stage.
00:02:13.320and when the stones when they when was it like your first experience with them like when you first saw them like what was your first interaction with them like
00:37:42.520human being she's just gonna have a baby
00:37:44.260and everything that she had potential to
00:37:46.600do before she still has that potential
00:37:48.400you know she if she wants to go to med
00:37:50.580school or whatever you said that she was
00:37:52.880wanting to do or going to do she can still
00:37:55.100do all that she's gonna have to make some
00:37:56.840adaptations she's gonna have to get some
00:37:59.020help along the way she's gonna have to get
00:38:00.320some help from you you two are gonna have to
00:38:01.820work together as a team to make it happen
00:38:04.700but you her potential is still there and if
00:38:08.960she's a if she's a good person and she has
00:38:10.600high potential that doesn't change at all so
00:38:12.900don't worry about that just gonna be some work
00:38:15.560for you and for her as far as you saying that
00:38:19.040you think she might be better off without you
00:38:21.040that's just flat out not true that's just not
00:38:24.220true she's gonna need you the the baby's gonna
00:38:26.500need you that's just that's just wrong and
00:38:30.520you know you're at a point in your life where
00:38:32.580you don't feel like you can make enough money
00:38:35.600right and that's a problem man that's that's
00:38:38.240gonna be hard and what you're gonna have to do
00:38:41.640is you're gonna have to dig in you're gonna
00:38:42.820have to dig in to get a roof over their heads
00:38:44.980and get food in their mouths and you know
00:38:48.060it's gonna be tough and that's sort of the way
00:38:51.040life is man life is hard and you know it's
00:38:56.960hard but it's also like it's good and you know
00:39:00.900I was in the Navy and you don't make a ton of
00:39:02.960money when you're in the Navy and my wife and
00:39:06.060I we had three kids we lived in a little tiny
00:39:09.220930 square foot house two-bedroom house with
00:39:13.820three kids my wife and I our bedroom our bed was
00:39:18.800actually in the living room slash dining room so
00:39:22.420there was a there was a dining table and then
00:39:24.940there was our bed and then there was a couch and
00:39:27.840that's where we lived and when you when people
00:39:30.840came over and open the door to go into our
00:39:33.300house on the left-hand side was our bed where
00:39:35.740we slept at night so you know what I was
00:39:39.240driving a old beat-down Dodge Grand Caravan
00:39:43.480minivan and living in this tiny house with my
00:39:46.780wife and kids and you know what doesn't
00:39:48.260matter it's not it's we we were we didn't think
00:39:51.900about it we weren't running around complaining
00:39:54.260we were just happy that we were there and doing
00:39:57.980what we were doing so don't worry about that
00:40:01.660you know another really positive thing that you
00:40:07.080say is you say that your girl is like an amazing
00:40:10.320girl and has a great attitude and she's smiling
00:40:12.220all the time that's awesome and what you should
00:40:14.960try and do is you should you need to try and be the
00:40:17.640same thing for her you know don't be moping
00:40:20.440around and and feeling like you can't get anything
00:40:23.440done no you need to you need to step up and take
00:40:25.400action and that's probably really the final thing for
00:40:30.240me is I have a lot of friends a lot of veterans I know a
00:40:34.600lot of veterans and sometimes when they get out of the
00:40:36.340military they struggle and they get a little bit
00:40:40.400lost of what they're doing and I always say it's because one
00:40:44.880of the main reasons is because they don't have a mission
00:40:46.840anymore because when you're in the military you have a
00:40:49.040mission you got something to do you got goals you got other
00:40:52.920people that are on the same mission with you and it's a it's a really
00:40:56.620positive thing and then when guys get out of the military all of a
00:40:58.820sudden they don't have a mission anymore well the way I look at this for
00:41:03.040you will is right now you have a mission and it's crystal clear and
00:41:07.680that is your mission is to take care of these two girls that are
00:41:12.520counting on you and that means yeah you're gonna have to work hard
00:41:15.520you're gonna be working overtime and I don't know what your skill set is
00:41:18.840you know you might be working at at at McDonald's you might be working at
00:41:23.240Wendy's when I was a kid I worked at Wendy's
00:41:25.280you know guess what that's what you do bro I'm gonna interrupt for one second and
00:41:29.700it's a beautiful message can you imagine I would be so scared to order at
00:41:34.060Wendy's dude you order a uh you you order like a junior bacon cheeseburger
00:41:40.440and next thing you know you're like you're on a mission in Afghanistan like
00:41:44.180that's how I feel I'd be so afraid to order from Jocko at uh at Wendy's onward
00:41:49.860and it paid bills so I worked at Wendy's and there's people that work in
00:41:55.480McDonald's they work at Wendy's they move up through the chain they end up
00:41:58.520making that their life and they make good money doing it I don't know if
00:42:01.360that's what you're gonna do but I'm saying there's options and you got to
00:42:04.600go out there and you got to make something happen and you're this little
00:42:09.000girl that you've got coming she's she's counting on you to accomplish this
00:42:15.480mission so that's what you got to do well you got to get out there you got to
00:42:20.840get on that mission you got to make things happen and you got to get after it
00:42:24.520so that's all I got thanks for asking me Theo good luck good luck to Will and of
00:42:34.260course gang gang that's all I got y'all have a good one man you know what a good
00:42:43.360message man um right there Will that's a great there's some great suggestions by
00:42:48.760Jocko gang gang at you bro back at you Jock and he has a great podcast called
00:42:53.580Jocko podcast and if you struggle you know a lot of young men these days we
00:43:00.380struggle with um you have to sometimes you need something to hear that we need
00:43:05.880to hear somebody say look you need to get your shit you're gonna have to take
00:43:09.920action you have to make a mission for yourself or there's a mission right in
00:43:14.140front of you survival taking care of a new born someone you're bringing into
00:43:19.620the world um and the great thing about Jocko is man is that man he's a loving
00:43:27.080guy you know he loves being a family man he has three beautiful children he loved
00:43:31.500being a family man he loves it man and we're gonna have him back on the podcast
00:43:36.160this fall and I mean you know I needed to hear that too actually it's funny you can
00:43:41.540put all this into your own life Will like even while Jocko is giving you a
00:43:45.540suggestion it's me too it's like you know we've just got to stay on the
00:43:51.380mission you know we stay on the mission you know we stay on the mission we don't
00:43:57.360let things get choppy things get this or that you know we stay on the mission and uh
00:44:05.240but yeah if you need that if you need to hear somebody tell you a message that I
00:44:10.700mean this guy's been through it all and he's big in the biceps and he's and he's
00:44:15.420just as big as in the heart uh and that's a navy seal right there Jocko
00:44:19.460Willink um from Jocko podcast you can check it out thank you Jocko man really
00:44:24.180really cool man I feel so lucky to just even you know be able to reach out to
00:44:29.640somebody when I need some guidance uh you know we can't forget to do that you
00:44:35.660know sometimes I sit around like I think like uh you know I could have you know it's
00:44:39.140like how do we handle things better if I don't know what to do I have to ask
00:44:42.760somebody who's had the experience now I don't have to take with the suggestions
00:44:47.420they offer but to not ask somebody and just go blindly in the stuff for me man
00:44:54.260it's just I just you know just a good reminder thank you very much Jocko let's
00:44:59.280get some other calls that came in for John uh for uh Will a couple more
00:45:03.120suggestions um from the hotline here we go
00:45:06.740what up Theo this is Ty from Ponchatoula Louisiana
00:45:11.000gang gang Ponchatoula that's strawberry festival
00:45:14.420dude nice to go over there boy I ate all the strawberries
00:45:18.660and a lot of people don't know I didn't have you know when I was young my mom would
00:45:23.500get strawberries and my grandmother would grow strawberries and every now and
00:45:28.460then they would mail down a couple uh pints of them and they were good and one time I
00:45:36.100had blueberries on 4th of July when I was probably about 13 and I'd never had them
00:45:40.880before so I'd never even had blueberries bro until
00:45:45.280maybe 14 and blueberries they really are I mean they are but they're unique you got to
00:45:54.880admit it they're unique when you see them you think I ain't eating it and then you have a
00:46:00.740couple and then you like dang boy next thing you know you're buying a pack of them you know
00:46:07.600next thing you know you you're breaking open a swisher and putting a couple of blueberries in
00:46:11.720there and you just getting just straight up bloonted bro so I remember I had a bunch of
00:46:19.9804th of July and I had one and they were big these things were I mean they would have been at least a
00:46:26.280size 36 or 38 pant waist these blueberries were large I mean you know a couple of them look like
00:46:37.080they hadn't been working and just been living off the government you know that kind of thickness too
00:46:41.300and and I had a bunch and then a little bit later I was out on the deck you know that night
00:46:50.780and people started tickling each other because right before I feel like I was at the age we were on
00:46:58.540the we were staying at the beach I was with my friend and right before the age when we started
00:47:04.500getting liquor and doing doing dope and all of that that's really when people started really
00:47:11.080tickling each other and people really right before drugs and alcohol kind of came out that's
00:47:17.820really when people were tickling each other a lot a lot you walk down the street and see four or five
00:47:24.560guys in hoodies just tickling the fuck out of some dude till his wallet fell out of his pocket
00:47:29.320people were tickling and the thing about tickling is at first you get giggled up and then you get
00:47:36.820you go past that you go past that some guy will ejaculate sometimes you tickle somebody 15 minutes
00:47:42.960but it'll ejaculate it's great I mean you know anything can happen but um what was I talking about
00:47:49.620oh so everybody tickled me so much out on the patio I was on the balcony of this we're on a stand at a
00:47:58.640high-rise thing at the beach and you know a hotel room and it was way up and they tickled me so much
00:48:05.420dude and I was in a bath towel and uh and the blueberries hit me they'd never been in my system
00:48:12.740before and blueberries really you know your body don't really your body likes them but your body
00:48:21.200also make it make your body feel like like there's a mystery some like in your stomach or in your butt
00:48:28.180it'll make you and it kind of makes you feel like you got sherlock holmes in your stomach and then
00:48:34.820maybe a little bit of uh you know some of that encyclopedia brown in your butt you feel me and
00:48:40.340and so I did um enough blueberries and I had to use go to the bathroom and do it you know do a um
00:48:47.900you know do the old uh you feel me do a little bit of you know do a little bit of that dark back work
00:49:00.500you know and um and they they tickled me so much and I just my bowels gave out because I still my bowels
00:49:09.760were still developing I was 14 years old and you don't get fully developed uh you know you don't
00:49:17.140get fully developed in your bows until he's probably what 22 24 and man I'm just I still feel bad about
00:49:27.000it but I just I mean like talking about this kind of gross and I'm sorry to even say it but I just
00:49:34.680just dutied right off that balcony and just from like 14 stories up just and they wouldn't stop
00:49:41.060tickling me and the towel would come off me and then you know when everybody was tickling me and
00:49:46.860even an old person one of the people that was tickling me was very old and there's something about
00:49:52.140watching somebody tickle your your nude skin with really old hands that makes you
00:49:58.500it just does something to you and I don't even know what it does but but it definitely does it so
00:50:08.700um anyway sorry but yeah so I I mean I was just just doing just spraying basically duty off the
00:50:19.940balcony just flying out of me because blueberries they get real active they have active ingredients
00:50:23.700in them they got that Jamie Lee Curtis in them bro that Activia and that Activia my bow my bowels
00:50:32.080just get Activiated boy and I just I was just like a fire hydrant of just dark work just flying off the
00:50:38.82014th story of that deal and it got I mean people were getting crazy man somebody down below I think
00:50:45.800one of the security guards shot a gun up into it up into the cloud of it he just didn't know
00:50:49.900and I don't blame him I don't blame him you know if a bunch of body dark is just falling out of the
00:50:55.920sky on me I'd fire a couple rounds into it praise God brother um and so I think that
00:51:03.180that pretty much counts as the ugly yeah we got we got that's the good the bad and the ugly
00:51:11.620I mean that's blueberries bro and that's blueberries but yeah thank you for calling from Ponchatoula
00:51:19.480there home of the uh strawberry festival the Louisiana strawberry festival and if you'd like to listen to
00:51:24.860some Zydeco music and do some dancing or you want to fall in love with somebody or that you already
00:51:30.420love a little bit and they don't know it you take them there and you go dance and you get them a snow
00:51:35.240cone and you and you guys enjoy each other's company and it's a good place to fall in love
00:51:40.840let's hear more I was in a similar situation about a young man who is about to have a baby
00:51:48.260on August 17th about a year ago well about 10 months ago uh I had just quit my job I was having
00:51:55.920some financial problems I was looking for another uh a better opportunity for work and I found out that
00:52:03.040my girlfriend was was pregnant and it uh it shook me I didn't know what to do I didn't have a job
00:52:10.280I was lost scared I was faced with a challenge that uh that I wasn't sure that I could overcome
00:52:17.520but uh like you said Theo you got to get active and that's what I did man I got I got off my butt
00:52:26.040and I got after it man I was doing everything that I had that I could do to uh to make it happen
00:52:31.780to to give my uh my uh my girlfriend and and my child the best life uh May 20th I had a young boy
00:52:41.820a baby boy so uh to the young man that that is uh coming close you can do it man the baby's gonna
00:52:50.900gonna get here it's gonna change your life um just keep moving be active uh you have a purpose now
00:52:58.420and uh you can do it man I know you can't thank you Theo gang gang gang bro man wow what a well-spoken
00:53:07.340young man and I mean you could really feel his concern and you could really feel his hope for the
00:53:12.540for the other young fella for will and that's cool wouldn't it man human connection is just
00:53:19.020man it's powerful isn't it powerful man
00:53:24.260it's powerful you know uh there's something just so powerful when somebody cares about somebody else
00:53:33.720you know and you know it and that's why you know that's
00:53:38.840I think that's the thing that made me the most upset not to make this about me now uh that was
00:53:45.420a beautiful message man it's a great suggestion just the chance that the thing you're most scared
00:53:50.080of could change your life for the better that's fascinating isn't it the thing you're most scared
00:53:56.020of you most scared to go in a cave at the end of the at the end of the uh town the one that says
00:54:01.680keep out and finally after years you go in there and nine feet in there there's just bars of gold
00:54:08.220you know you just we don't know but if you stay active that both of these men said that
00:54:16.120you notice this gentleman from Ponchatoula and and Jaco said the same thing you have to stay active
00:54:22.040you know yesterday man honestly brother the the lady you know wrecking up the single mom thing
00:54:28.460it made me mad man it made me mad you know and then it made me sad made me angry at myself made
00:54:34.740me feel stupid for trying to be for trying to do something you know and that's okay that's normal
00:54:44.060stuff that's the way I feel about things that's my process or whatever but you know I talked to a
00:54:51.520friend last night and you know she was saying well you know it's nobody's fault it's just like
00:54:57.700you just have to learn together as a group and you do it better and different next time
00:55:02.440um but staying active I went for a run last night I went to the gym this morning even though I didn't
00:55:08.100want to you know uh we stay active and the rewards will come the rewards will come man and it's going to
00:55:17.100come for you and it's going to come for this child you may have to do a little bit extra work now but
00:55:21.060this child is going to have a I mean what if the baby you're going to raise is she might be the next
00:55:25.800Lady Gaga ba you know she might be the next Lady Gaga she might be the you know the first female
00:55:31.600Evander Holyfield baby you never know it you never know so but that's a great suggestion let's let's
00:55:40.920take one more call for Will that came in here but right before we get to that I got to let you know
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01:00:28.400much and let's get back into the episode let's take this this call that came in for will man it's
01:00:38.140funny how many people love you will a lot of calls came in you know it's funny how many people love
01:00:42.560somebody that they don't even know or want to care isn't it powerful my name's sydney and i'm
01:00:49.200calling in response to will's phone-in and i want to share my opinion with his regarding his situation
01:00:56.200so um i'm 18 nearly the age of will's girlfriend i'm also uh headed to college with plans of being
01:01:04.600pre-med okay so she's 18 headed to college with plans of being pre-med onward and first of all i think that while you may feel very overwhelmed and be having self-doubt about how good of a father you'll be i think your presence in your baby's life and in your girlfriend's life is far more valuable than any sort of financial contribution you could be
01:01:28.600hmm that's really true you know your son ain't gonna remember your the daughter ain't gonna remember uh
01:01:38.040you know it's funny like i don't think back and think about my father and think oh man i wish he had this for
01:01:46.360me or had this for me i mean my favorite thing about my dad i just remember he he put his arm around my neck a couple times you know
01:02:28.240um and i know you seem to be worried about money i understand that's totally reasonable considering babies are expensive but
01:02:36.700i think when that baby's grown up they aren't really going to remember the the amount of money or the material items they have they're going to remember their memories with you