Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 12, 2026


Ilhan Omar RAIDED, DHS Investigating Possible IMMIGRATION FRAUD | Timcast IRL

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00:01:11.000 Ilhan Omar's home has been raided.
00:01:14.000 The DHS has made a massive play days or weeks, I guess, a few weeks before the midterms here.
00:01:21.000 Pretty unprecedented.
00:01:21.000 We've never really seen anything quite like this before.
00:01:26.000 A lot of reaction from all over the political space.
00:01:29.000 Also, the reason why they raided her home was not what we expected.
00:01:32.000 I think a lot of people heard Ilhan Omar.
00:01:34.000 They thought it was over her brother.
00:01:35.000 Turns out it's some completely separate documents.
00:01:38.000 But hey, I'm all right.
00:01:40.000 Let's hear out DHS.
00:01:41.000 I'd be all right if she got deported.
00:01:42.000 That'd be pretty cool.
00:01:43.000 We have a few more stories, but that's obviously the big one.
00:01:46.000 It's kind of hard to follow up.
00:01:47.000 Y'all and Omar are getting your home raided.
00:01:49.000 Oil prices are on the rise once again. 0.99
00:01:52.000 Iran, you know, it's continuing on. 1.00
00:01:55.000 I'll probably be talking about this for the next three years of my life at this point, at this rate. 0.96
00:01:59.000 Also, until they call you up and send you to the front line.
00:02:02.000 I know.
00:02:03.000 Yeah.
00:02:03.000 Until I get, you know, dropped, like a drone picks me up and carries me over there.
00:02:08.000 ATF, no, it's suppressors.
00:02:09.000 You can get them.
00:02:10.000 They're, you know, like water.
00:02:12.000 They're available everywhere.
00:02:13.000 Phil's got the shirt.
00:02:14.000 It's a beautiful thing.
00:02:15.000 We'll throw it to him for that story because that's not my.
00:02:18.000 Wheelhouse and just kind of decided to talk about the story for no reason whatsoever.
00:02:23.000 In Quebec, separatists have won an election there.
00:02:26.000 Again, this is something that's been percolating in my head.
00:02:28.000 Again, there's no other reason why we would bring up such a story, but just kidding.
00:02:33.000 We have a wonderful Canadian guest on with us today who I will reveal in one second.
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00:04:03.000 And we are back.
00:04:04.000 And I am your host, Tate Brown, here holding it down for the great Tim Poole today, who is out with an illness, but he will be back soon.
00:04:11.000 But thankfully, we have a fantastic guest here today to hold down the show.
00:04:16.000 We're joined by the great Elliot Deneau.
00:04:18.000 Thank you for having me, man.
00:04:19.000 I'm stoked.
00:04:20.000 Dude, this is going to be a great one. 1.00
00:04:21.000 You know, I catch a lot of flack because I refuse to go in on the Canadians.
00:04:25.000 I mean, the Canadian government, obviously, but I meet a lot of great.
00:04:28.000 Canadians, you're emblematic of that.
00:04:30.000 You're a fantastic patriot.
00:04:31.000 Thanks, thanks.
00:04:32.000 You know, there's a few of us still in Canada.
00:04:34.000 Yeah, at least the ones who haven't fled to the US yet.
00:04:37.000 I love it.
00:04:37.000 I love it.
00:04:38.000 So, who are you?
00:04:39.000 What do you do?
00:04:39.000 Yeah, so I'm a political commentator, conservative political commentator.
00:04:43.000 We're far and few in Canada.
00:04:45.000 Host of The Right Call on YouTube and Spotify.
00:04:48.000 And aside from that, I'm just an aspiring American one day.
00:04:51.000 I love it.
00:04:52.000 I love it.
00:04:52.000 Well, we need you up there for the time being, try to win back.
00:04:54.000 We can't cede any ground.
00:04:56.000 We'll get into it.
00:04:56.000 No.
00:04:57.000 We got a lot of good stories coming.
00:04:58.000 Brett.
00:04:59.000 I'm an honorary Canadian because I'm from Minnesota, so I'm basically a Canadian.
00:05:03.000 You mean from Somalia?
00:05:04.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:05.000 Well, so I coined the term frost back as my slur towards Canadians, but I won't use that on you at all tonight. 0.98
00:05:12.000 We like snow Mexicans better.
00:05:14.000 I like it. 1.00
00:05:15.000 I love that.
00:05:15.000 That's better.
00:05:16.000 We got Phil in the house.
00:05:16.000 I love that.
00:05:18.000 What's up, everybody?
00:05:19.000 Back from the imaginary world of Las Vegas out doing some ATR stuff last week.
00:05:25.000 So I'm back here holding it down with my good friend, Tate.
00:05:28.000 What's going on, Carter?
00:05:29.000 What's up?
00:05:30.000 I didn't know you were in Las Vegas.
00:05:31.000 I thought you were in LA.
00:05:32.000 Did I say Las Vegas?
00:05:33.000 You did.
00:05:33.000 No, I meant LA.
00:05:34.000 Oh, man.
00:05:34.000 Same thing.
00:05:35.000 I mean, it's the same thing.
00:05:37.000 It felt like it was Vegas.
00:05:38.000 It was like 100 degrees when I got there in October.
00:05:40.000 Crazy.
00:05:41.000 Sign me up.
00:05:42.000 Well, hey, let's get into it.
00:05:43.000 Let's get into it.
00:05:44.000 And we'll get into it with this first story.
00:05:46.000 Everyone's talking about it from the Associated Press.
00:05:50.000 Agents search Representative Omar's Washington home and criminal probe as she vows she won't be silenced.
00:05:56.000 And you can see here the guys in the HSI jackets posted up outside of her home.
00:06:02.000 This is a fascinating story, to say the least.
00:06:04.000 We're still learning the facts as they come in.
00:06:08.000 I'll read here from the AP.
00:06:10.000 Federal agents on Monday searched the home of Democratic U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar, a startling escalation in a criminal investigation that brings renewed focus to the frequent target of the Trump administration's derision in the final weeks of her reelection bid.
00:06:26.000 She's likely going to be safe.
00:06:27.000 That's like a plus 50 Biden district.
00:06:29.000 But, you know, who knows?
00:06:31.000 Stranger things have happened.
00:06:32.000 The search of the Minnesota Congresswoman's home, so close to next month's midterm contests that will determine control of the House and Senate, was swiftly.
00:06:41.000 Condemned by top Democrats in Congress who raised questions about the timing, giving a long standing Justice Department protocol to avoid overt investigative steps involving political candidates in the direct run up to an election.
00:06:54.000 Obviously, Omar, and thank you, AP, for sort of adding that in.
00:06:57.000 We wouldn't have known, as an outspoken critic of President Donald Trump.
00:07:01.000 Once again, this is a fascinating story.
00:07:03.000 Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen last month cited a quote, ongoing investigation that he suggested was examining potential fraud in her family's immigration paperwork.
00:07:12.000 Quote, something's going to happen.
00:07:15.000 He said, and a potential foreshadowing of the search.
00:07:18.000 The timing, obviously, is.
00:07:20.000 I said the same thing earlier today.
00:07:21.000 I said, it looks like, if anything, it's signaling to the Trump base, like, hey, guys, look, we're doing stuff.
00:07:26.000 We're trying to get stuff done before the midterms.
00:07:29.000 So to say it's not politically motivated, timing wise, doesn't seem very genuine to me.
00:07:35.000 I agree.
00:07:36.000 It is politically.
00:07:37.000 I mean, there is the political angle, but it is also, you know, it does seem like there's substance, right?
00:07:46.000 It's not.
00:07:46.000 Just fabricated.
00:07:47.000 If she lied about allegedly, the story is that she lied about her birth date so that way she could get naturalized with her father when he was naturalized in 2000.
00:07:58.000 She said she was 17, she was actually 18.
00:08:01.000 Therefore, she's not actually a citizen of the United States.
00:08:05.000 And in my opinion, look, I'm very open about or very clear about my policy or my personal preferences when it comes to immigration, and all immigration for a few decades. 0.86
00:08:16.000 Everybody that's here is illegal. 0.99
00:08:18.000 You have to go if you're here illegally.
00:08:21.000 You have to go back. 1.00
00:08:23.000 We don't need to have a massive amount of immigrants. 0.98
00:08:26.000 And the people that are here, that are immigrants, that are children of immigrants, they need to assimilate, become Americans, which I think I'm of the opinion that basically anyone can become an American, but it's not something that happens just by putting your foot on the magic soil. 0.99
00:08:41.000 We don't have magic soil here.
00:08:42.000 You have to come to the United States. 1.00
00:08:45.000 And so if you're here illegally, if you've somehow got around the law or lied on your paperwork, Gotta go. 0.91
00:08:53.000 Now, as for what this means, politically, say hypothetically, she's found in the next couple of weeks, or you can't, you're not able to be the representative.
00:09:06.000 That doesn't substantively change who would be elected from that district, right?
00:09:11.000 The district elected Ilan Omar because she is a Somali.
00:09:17.000 She says that she represents the Somali community of Dearborn or of that area.
00:09:22.000 It's not like you're going to get some MAGA guy in there and they're going to elect that person.
00:09:26.000 So.
00:09:27.000 There's not going to be a substantive change.
00:09:30.000 It's going to be someone that has similar views, similar politics, will likely win.
00:09:36.000 But I don't think it's about getting somebody in that you think.
00:09:38.000 I don't think it's about getting a MAGA guy in there.
00:09:41.000 I think it's about signaling to the Trump base that we're doing things at a time when they're saying that nothing's getting done, where that's the straw man argument is that nothing in the administration is getting done.
00:09:50.000 It's a lame duck administration.
00:09:53.000 And we've had discussions in the past about the things that have been accomplished.
00:09:56.000 So it doesn't feel to me like it's about changing the voting in Minnesota, more about signaling that they're.
00:10:01.000 No, and I agree with you.
00:10:03.000 But I think that beyond that, I don't think anything you said is wrong. 0.96
00:10:07.000 But I do think beyond that, it also kind of reminds people that it is a situation where they are trying to get illegals out. 0.87
00:10:19.000 But keep in mind as well, a judge had to sign off on it, right?
00:10:22.000 So this is, sure, maybe there's a political aspect to it.
00:10:25.000 But ultimately, if there was no substance, if there was no basis, a judge would have rejected it.
00:10:30.000 And it's interesting that you brought up the magical soil because we were talking about that.
00:10:34.000 Today, because over the weekend, like Danny Trejo released a statement because he's doing a movie with the Daily Wire.
00:10:40.000 That's like a pro ICE movie, and he basically released a tweet or something being like, No, I'm anti ICE and I'm a Mexican American, blah, blah, blah.
00:10:51.000 And the point we were making today is that the days of because he's born in America, so it doesn't even matter at that point.
00:10:58.000 Like, it's not even about assimilation in a lot of ways because even people born here don't necessarily assimilate.
00:11:04.000 And there is still, and my point that I was making during the show was like, There's, for a lot of like the generic liberals or old school liberals, there is a romantic story around the idea of somebody shedding the skin of their former homeland and coming here and becoming an American and embracing American tradition and American values.
00:11:22.000 And that's something that's very powerful, but it's not the reality that we live in anymore.
00:11:26.000 If anything, it's kind of like a specter, it's a ghost of a past life in America.
00:11:32.000 That's a really good point because if you look at what's happening in France right now, there's massive riots, right?
00:11:37.000 A lot of those riots are people.
00:11:39.000 Young guys that are second and third generation French.
00:11:42.000 So they've been born.
00:11:43.000 They were born in France.
00:11:45.000 They've lived their whole life in France. 0.93
00:11:46.000 They have not assimilated.
00:11:48.000 A point that Tate makes all the time is when you have enclaves, you know, people that are all of the same ethnicity living in an area, then you really don't get that kind of assimilation.
00:12:00.000 Or that's one of the reasons why you don't get that assimilation.
00:12:02.000 I think there's multiple aspects as to why.
00:12:05.000 But I think that to Tate's point, which he's made on IRL multiple times, if you have these enclaves where everybody.
00:12:12.000 Basically, it is just bringing the old country with them.
00:12:16.000 You know, there isn't the impulse or the need to assimilate.
00:12:20.000 That's one of the reasons why, back when the Trump administration first started, when the second administration started, I was very, very pro, like, make sure that the government produces no materials in any language other than English.
00:12:32.000 You have to speak English.
00:12:34.000 And I do think the United States should have a national language that's English, and we shouldn't accommodate different groups of people because now you can go and you can see their.
00:12:44.000 There are government documents that are written in Chinese or in Arabic or in Spanish or what have you. 0.99
00:12:50.000 And we shouldn't do any of that.
00:12:52.000 Yeah, it is.
00:12:52.000 Everyone that comes here should speak the same language because there are concepts in one language that don't make sense in a different language.
00:12:59.000 There are jokes that don't land the same because of the language.
00:13:03.000 So, to initially, the first, very most important thing is to have everybody able to understand each other.
00:13:10.000 And to do that, you need to learn English. 0.98
00:13:13.000 Yeah, I mean, well, it's funny because we're saying this and we're saying, okay, well, look, the problem here is you have these ethnic enclaves. 1.00
00:13:21.000 You know, the immigrants come in and they pack into one place. 0.97
00:13:24.000 And of course, the solutions to that, you know, going in and maybe breaking them up using government power, that sounds like something that only a far right government would do. 0.82
00:13:31.000 We've seen in Switzerland here, I mean, this is from the conversation.com.
00:13:35.000 This is just a random piece I pulled up at the last second.
00:13:37.000 You can find this well documented.
00:13:39.000 Denmark, who I don't think any of us would really think of as a far right society or certainly a far right government.
00:13:45.000 I mean, the government they have in power is a very center left kind of pragmatic government. 0.98
00:13:50.000 They've been sort of ghetto busting, for lack of a better word. 0.96
00:13:52.000 They've been going into these ethnic enclaves.
00:13:56.000 Of immigrants, obviously, because they're not Danish, and sort of breaking them up. 0.85
00:14:00.000 I think they actually have a threshold of 50% of a neighborhood reaches a non Danish, you know, so that becomes a non Danish majority. 1.00
00:14:07.000 They have to, by law, go in there and sort of break it up. 0.99
00:14:10.000 They go and bulldoze the buildings. 0.89
00:14:11.000 I mean, it is very sort of aggressive, as you can see here from the title Denmark's uprooting of settled residents from ghettos forms part of an aggressive plan to assimilate non white inhabitants. 0.99
00:14:22.000 And go figure, it's working. 0.96
00:14:24.000 And you're actually seeing in Denmark, in Denmark, I said it really funny there.
00:14:28.000 In Denmark, you can see that it's working.
00:14:30.000 You can see that these governments get rewarded by the voters, which is the funniest part.
00:14:33.000 I was telling Elliot before.
00:14:35.000 A secret sauce, if you're a liberal, is just keep immigration under control and you'll keep most of the nationalists happy.
00:14:40.000 The nationalists just want to see that their country is going to be the same country that they can give their kids.
00:14:45.000 If you want to pass your socialist reforms and your lefty social programs, you could probably get away with that as long as you keep immigration under control.
00:14:53.000 I mean, that's kind of the reality of the situation. 0.85
00:14:55.000 America is a slightly different beast, but certainly the case in Europe that this would. 0.56
00:14:59.000 Be this instance.
00:15:00.000 I also laughed at the article when they were talking about the unspoken rule of not trying to use lawfare against political opponents as if that hasn't been something that they've been doing to Republicans for years and years and years.
00:15:14.000 Well, this is what I got to ask, Elliot.
00:15:16.000 Do you believe, so President Trump, he came out and he said, I have no idea this is going to happen.
00:15:20.000 And obviously they juxtaposed this with JD Vance saying back in May that they were actively looking through immigration records.
00:15:26.000 Do you believe, Trump, that he had no active role in this?
00:15:29.000 Do I believe him?
00:15:30.000 Probably not.
00:15:31.000 I mean, he's a president and he should be aware of these things, but there are separations between the judiciary and, I guess, the White House proper.
00:15:38.000 And politically, he can't say he ordered it or that he had anything to do with it.
00:15:42.000 We get that.
00:15:43.000 But again, like, I'm all for it because I've never understood in the U.S. the whole unspoken, like, 60 days before an election, you don't investigate, you know, anything political.
00:15:50.000 I mean, if you've committed a crime, you need to be prosecuted, period.
00:15:54.000 I agree wholeheartedly.
00:15:56.000 A follow up question I would have for you kind of on this topic Does Canada have magic soil?
00:16:01.000 Because the United States were.
00:16:02.000 Saying maybe not the case, but I don't know if Canada is doing something.
00:16:05.000 Apparently, so we've been very gung ho about immigration for a while. 0.99
00:16:09.000 But I like the whole breaking down ghettos up to 50%. 1.00
00:16:12.000 That would get rid of pretty much all of Brampton.
00:16:14.000 Yeah.
00:16:17.000 Brampton, real estate, it'd be great.
00:16:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:19.000 So, look, I've never believed in the whole magic soil thing.
00:16:22.000 I believe that a nation is nothing more than its culture and its people.
00:16:26.000 And I've used that point before. 0.89
00:16:27.000 If you took everyone from Congo and you put them in Norway, which is a very rich country, one of the wealthiest countries in the world, and you took all the Norwegians and you put them in Congo, Within 10 years, Congo is a first world nation and Norway is back to a third world nation.
00:16:39.000 The people make the country.
00:16:42.000 So there's no such thing as magic soil.
00:16:44.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:16:45.000 I mean, it's fascinating stuff because, you know, this is a point that I imagine we're going to make a few times on the show Canada, because it also is sort of a settler colony like the United States was, faces a lot of these same sort of existential questions that we have.
00:17:00.000 Like, what is an American?
00:17:01.000 You know, it's like a debate, you know, raging really on the right.
00:17:04.000 I think the left has a consensus, which is anyone that says they're an American, but on the right, you know, we're having these conversations.
00:17:09.000 As I understand it, Canada has the exact same questions and is maybe a little further down the road.
00:17:14.000 And, Sort of coming up with the answer to that question.
00:17:17.000 Yeah, you guys are about 10 years behind us when it comes to that stuff.
00:17:21.000 But it's a good question because I ask Canadians, what is being a Canadian?
00:17:24.000 What is being Canadian?
00:17:26.000 And you know, the number one answer people give is, well, we're not America.
00:17:29.000 And I'm like, wow.
00:17:30.000 Because your entire identity is not being another country.
00:17:33.000 But you have to understand again, in our history, Canada was the loyalists.
00:17:36.000 There were the guys who wanted to stay with the crown.
00:17:39.000 And interestingly enough, in your first constitution, the Articles of Confederation, there was a clause in there for the province of Quebec at the time to join the union automatically.
00:17:47.000 It was pre approved, pre vetted.
00:17:48.000 They never took it.
00:17:49.000 What a shame.
00:17:51.000 But nonetheless, so we've always been a little bit doing our own thing, being closer to the king and the queen or whatever.
00:17:56.000 And we see consensus up there.
00:17:59.000 We're just a nation of consensus, guys.
00:18:01.000 Everybody's polite.
00:18:02.000 Oh, God.
00:18:03.000 Yeah, but the problem is that eventually it leads to suicidal empathy.
00:18:07.000 Yeah.
00:18:07.000 You know, if you're always so inclusive to everyone all the time, you end up being inclusive to the kind of people that won't be inclusive back to you.
00:18:15.000 And eventually these people will get into power and don't be surprised when they come for you.
00:18:20.000 It's weird seeing this like battered wife syndrome among Canadians where President Trump seemingly, you know, I mean, in my opinion, it was never going to happen.
00:18:29.000 I mean, to be fair, he was saying it explicitly, but, you know, I think everyone felt like in America it wasn't going to happen.
00:18:34.000 But I'm going to invade Canada.
00:18:36.000 And it invokes a strong enough reaction among Canadians where they sort of blame Pierre Polyev for like, I don't know, fanning the flames in some way, shape, or form and just reelected the same government.
00:18:45.000 Well, not like a 20% approval rating.
00:18:47.000 Pierre's problem is he didn't say Trump bad enough.
00:18:51.000 That's really what it seems like it boils down to.
00:18:53.000 He wasn't hostile enough to President Trump.
00:18:57.000 He was between a rock and a hard place because within the Conservative Party in Canada, you have a faction that is very pro America and you have a faction that's very much, we call it elbows up, but it's pro Canada.
00:19:06.000 It's just Canada, Canada, Canada.
00:19:08.000 So Pierre Polyev at that time kind of got blindsided, I guess, by Trump.
00:19:12.000 And Trump, the only reason we have a Liberal Party in Canada is because of Trump.
00:19:16.000 And he is the bogeyman by excellence.
00:19:19.000 It is all our media talks about Trump, Trump, Trump.
00:19:21.000 When you say Liberal Party, you're talking about.
00:19:24.000 Left leaning, right?
00:19:25.000 Yeah, but you have to understand that in Canada, even our Conservative Party would probably be a little bit to the left of the Democrats.
00:19:32.000 They're like, yeah, they're like Bill Clinton.
00:19:35.000 Yeah.
00:19:36.000 And then the Liberals are very liberal.
00:19:36.000 Yeah.
00:19:39.000 But you actually, I mean, Canada has a Canadian Communist Party as well.
00:19:43.000 I don't know how much influence they have, but they do.
00:19:46.000 Yeah, they do.
00:19:47.000 I mean, our really left leaning party that tends to get some seats in our parliament is called the NDP.
00:19:53.000 And these guys are cuckoo. 0.85
00:19:54.000 They're wack. 0.96
00:19:55.000 Jag me.
00:19:56.000 What a name.
00:19:57.000 Oh, he's gone now.
00:19:58.000 I forgot about that guy. 1.00
00:19:59.000 Jagmeat. 1.00
00:19:59.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:20:00.000 He's gone now.
00:20:00.000 Yeah.
00:20:01.000 He kept the Liberal Party in power for a while just to get his pension.
00:20:01.000 He got his pension.
00:20:05.000 The second that passed the threshold, he was gone.
00:20:07.000 So, yeah, you can thank him for that.
00:20:09.000 You respect the grind, just like defraud your country.
00:20:11.000 Yeah, but you know, we call him a champagne socialist.
00:20:13.000 Or actually, the name is we call him a Maserati Marxist.
00:20:18.000 He was pictured coming out of a Maserati.
00:20:21.000 The guy is loaded.
00:20:22.000 Yeah.
00:20:22.000 We don't even know why he needs his like $80,000 a year pension, but he wanted it.
00:20:26.000 And he's, you know, Wasn't that what Marjorie Taylor Greene was doing, just like waiting it out till she got her pension?
00:20:33.000 Or am I misremembering that?
00:20:34.000 Could be.
00:20:35.000 I don't recall the dynamic at play. 0.97
00:20:36.000 I think she was waiting to get her Rumble contract.
00:20:40.000 That's what they're all doing, right?
00:20:41.000 Yeah.
00:20:41.000 Well, we need to keep moving along here.
00:20:43.000 I feel like every story we're going to read is just going to deviate back into Canada because it's very rare we get to, like, I don't know, really drilled in on Canada.
00:20:49.000 They're north the entire time.
00:20:52.000 From Reuters, oil prices rise on Saudi Arabia attacks, overshadowing Trump's diesel deal, which was a very controversial deal, was discussed over the weekend.
00:21:04.000 Oil prices rose by nearly $2 a barrel on Monday as attacks on Saudi Arabia outweighed the prospect of increased supplies, even as U.S. President Donald Trump hailed fresh supplies.
00:21:16.000 Russian diesel exports and a Russia Ukraine ceasefire on energy targets.
00:21:21.000 Brent crude futures settled up $1.93 or $1.8 at $106 a barrel, $107 rounding up, the highest September 15th.
00:21:31.000 Texas intermediate settled at $93.74 a barrel. 0.75
00:21:37.000 This is in response to the Hootsies sort of kicking back up. 0.94
00:21:41.000 I think a lot of people thought that that was over, that was a one time thing.
00:21:44.000 Turns out to not be the case. 1.00
00:21:45.000 It also turns out the Hootsies are a lot more capable. 0.99
00:21:48.000 We found this out over the last few months a lot more capable than I think people realize. 0.98
00:21:52.000 My guess would just be because the Western media sort of taking them a little bit more seriously because it was part of a larger theater that's involving the United States.
00:21:59.000 Fascinating what's happening down there where the Saudis are kind of hung out to dry in a lot of ways.
00:22:05.000 The Iran aligned Houthis claimed responsibility for a Saturday strike on Riyadh's international airport that killed 13 people and wounded more than 300.
00:22:14.000 Further attacks happened on Sunday, intensifying conflict that could further hamper crude oil supplies from one of the world's biggest providers.
00:22:22.000 Things are getting wacky and wild again.
00:22:24.000 I continue to maintain this position that I've had for the last few months that I think this war drags on probably until 2028, certainly well into 2027.
00:22:33.000 It's just the pieces for brinkmanship are just not there at all.
00:22:37.000 What do you guys think?
00:22:39.000 Um, I don't know about 2028. 0.95
00:22:43.000 Um, I, from what I hear about what's going on inside Iran economically, I'm not sure that they can drag it out that long. 0.87
00:22:53.000 I think the, the, Riyadh is like 2 million to a dollar now, or something, something incredibly crazy.
00:23:00.000 It's like they're experiencing significant hyperinflation.
00:23:05.000 I'm not sure that, I don't think that that means, you know, a popular uprising inside of Iran, but I do wonder, like, how long the government can maintain its legitimacy with the people.
00:23:15.000 You know, it's like obviously they do have the, you know, the stick, and that's what they've been using for the past at least 40 years or what have you, 50 years, 45 years or something like that, 47.
00:23:29.000 So, I don't know, but I don't think that there's going to be any significant escalation by the U.S. either, because I think aside from the Strait or from the Strait of Hormuz, the U.S. has kind of achieved the goals that they wanted, right? 0.88
00:23:45.000 They sunk Iran's navy. 0.74
00:23:47.000 They have no functional navy. 0.94
00:23:49.000 They've taken out a significant amount of their ability to project any kind of power. 0.57
00:23:54.000 They can still shoot missiles, but if they actually had a significant military capability, would they really be relying on the Houthis to do things? 0.67
00:24:02.000 You know, they have the Houthis attacking the Saudis.
00:24:05.000 They're not shooting missiles at Israel the way that they were before.
00:24:08.000 They're not shooting missiles at U.S. bases like they were before.
00:24:12.000 Now, again, this is not, I'm not saying that I'm some kind of, you know, I have some kind of deep knowledge on what Iran has not used or has in reserve.
00:24:22.000 But, you know, most of the bombings from the United States have kind of ended because the U.S. has kind of taken out most of the low hanging fruit.
00:24:32.000 And the U.S. doesn't really want to start going after significant instructors.
00:24:35.000 Infrastructure and really put an even greater or put greater pressure on the average Iranian citizen.
00:24:42.000 Look, the midterms are kind of awash for this topic now.
00:24:46.000 How much of a conversation do you think this ends up being for the 2028 election?
00:24:50.000 I mean, I think it's pretty realistic that, you know, let's say it's a crowded Republican field and there's, let's say it's JD Vance, right?
00:24:59.000 And Rubio gets out of the way.
00:25:01.000 It creates this dynamic if it's a crowded field and there's viable competitors to Vance that he's going to probably have to distance himself from this war.
00:25:09.000 Again, polling right now, certainly very unpopular among the American people, a lot more popularity within the Republican Party.
00:25:16.000 How much of that is just people trust Trump versus are thrilled with the war?
00:25:20.000 It's hard to say.
00:25:21.000 But, you know, JD Vance, for example, and we're going into a primary, he's going to need to probably distance himself from the war if it's continuing on into the cycle, because then when he goes into the general, he's going to have the answer for that with the Democrat.
00:25:34.000 I think he might take a line.
00:25:36.000 Again, the hypothetical if this work stretches out until that.
00:25:39.000 You know, primary season, I see him taking a line of like, you know, I wasn't crazy on it, but you know, I'm just doing my job, like that sort of thing, which it's gonna be compelling or not.
00:25:48.000 It's gonna be the first question asked of any Republican that announces, and you're looking at six months, eight months until they start really announcing and before they actually start making the move.
00:25:57.000 So, unless they can wrap this up before spring, they're gonna, the people that are, you know, prospectively running for president on the Republican side, they're gonna have to have a good answer for it.
00:26:07.000 What's Trump's play then?
00:26:09.000 Like, he doesn't seem like he needs to care, he's going great.
00:26:12.000 Everything's wonderful.
00:26:14.000 We did everything we wanted to do.
00:26:16.000 Right now, the oil is flowing through the strait of Hormuz.
00:26:19.000 It doesn't matter what's really going on.
00:26:20.000 He's just going to talk.
00:26:20.000 You know, the word on the street, right, the rumors is that Trump's going to escalate after the midterms.
00:26:28.000 Because this is, again, some reporting indicates that this is him and we have an election coming up mode.
00:26:33.000 So that's like the volume of offense that we're playing right now.
00:26:38.000 That's a problem too.
00:26:40.000 If destabilization leads to the problems we're having with gas prices right now, you know, the instability in the region makes it.
00:26:46.000 Harder for this to, you know, oil to make its way here, whatever it is, that's a problem.
00:26:51.000 Like, because then they're going to be even more unpopular.
00:26:54.000 And that just means he doesn't care about who's going to be taking over in 2028, because likely they're going to have to come down on the opposite side of this issue, anyways.
00:27:02.000 And they've kind of accepted that beforehand.
00:27:04.000 Yeah, I think all of it, though, is about China.
00:27:07.000 All right. 0.92
00:27:08.000 So this is all about cornering China and making sure they don't get to oil anymore, because China's probably the biggest threat to the U.S., more so than Russia, by the way. 0.57
00:27:16.000 I don't understand why people freak out about Russia all the time. 0.63
00:27:19.000 So now with Venezuela.
00:27:21.000 Because of their nuclear missile, their alleged nuclear missile arsenal.
00:27:24.000 I mean, China has those too, right?
00:27:25.000 They do, but Russia has more nuclear missiles than any other country.
00:27:29.000 Again, if they launch, I mean, I don't know for sure how, you know, I don't know what kind of maintenance they've kept up since the end of the Cold War, but go ahead, sorry. 0.55
00:27:37.000 But ultimately, now with the deal with Venezuela, I think he's making the entire world dependent on U.S. oil.
00:27:45.000 You're ramping up production here in the U.S., you obviously got in Canada, Alberta is producing a lot, and who knows, that 51st state might be real.
00:27:51.000 Who the hell knows?
00:27:53.000 But most importantly, you have Venezuela, the first proven oil reserve in the world.
00:27:57.000 If he enables the entire world to reroute and to take it from the US, now I think there's more cargo ships going through the Gulf of America slash Mexico, wherever you are in the world.
00:28:07.000 Well, the world now is becoming dependent on the US.
00:28:10.000 And this is huge.
00:28:12.000 China right now is lost, by the way.
00:28:13.000 They used to get everything from Venezuela and Iran.
00:28:15.000 Now that's gone.
00:28:17.000 So China is struggling to get the proper amount of oil for their military and their population in general.
00:28:21.000 Yeah, this is what Besant was saying.
00:28:24.000 Can't remember which press pool he was in, but he was saying something along the lines of China or Iran will run out of oil to sell to China here in the next few weeks, which is quite interesting.
00:28:33.000 I mean, yeah, I think that was an impetus for the United States.
00:28:35.000 You know, there's kind of this discussion, you know, surrounding Iran.
00:28:39.000 Why do we go in, et cetera?
00:28:41.000 And I think there's like two obvious sort of indicators of why now was the time to go in from the perspective of the Trump administration.
00:28:49.000 Is one is sort of there's a lot of China hawks in the administration, especially in the Pentagon.
00:28:55.000 I mean, you look at like Elbridge Colby.
00:28:57.000 I mean, this guy probably does push ups in front of a picture of Xi Jinping every night.
00:29:00.000 I mean, this guy is a total China hawk, which is fine by me.
00:29:03.000 I think China's a very, very big threat. 0.64
00:29:06.000 But then, The obvious, the elephant in the room, the Israelis, who have been eyeing up Iran now for their entire existence as a state. 0.58
00:29:14.000 They've been wanting to take the Iranians off the table because that allows them regional hegemony because it takes out Hezbollah, takes out Hamas, keeps the Red Sea open, takes out the Houthis.
00:29:24.000 So it's kind of this storm where you probably did have an Israel lobby weighing on Trump saying, now's the time, let's go in.
00:29:30.000 The infamous Marco Rubio quote where he's basically indicating that the timing wasn't on their schedule.
00:29:36.000 The Israelis sort of made the decision of when to go in.
00:29:39.000 But you.
00:29:40.000 It must be said, it's not just as straightforward to say it was just Israel.
00:29:44.000 I think the United States had an overlapping interest, which was, to your point, they felt like maybe now is the time to contain Iran for Israel's sakes, sure, but also on behalf of sort of the China hawks and then sort of containing China. 0.65
00:29:57.000 And this is why I think it's interesting if you look at sort of the way that the United States is going to have to maneuver, they're going to have to have this question of is our alliance relationship, et cetera, with Israel beneficial for a Anti China posture, right?
00:30:13.000 Because a lot of the Gulf states, for example, the Saudis, 99% disapproval for the Abraham Accords now. 0.91
00:30:18.000 And that was kind of what we, you know, if we were to develop an anti China posture in the Middle East, that would be the only way to keep Israel in the equation and build up that posture was the Abraham Accords, get all the Sunni states on the same page.
00:30:31.000 That's gone. 0.89
00:30:32.000 October 7th completely sort of ruined the prospects of the Abraham Accords coming about. 0.99
00:30:38.000 So the United States is probably going to be in this position where it's like, hey, if you want the Saudis, the Qataris, the Emiratis, et cetera, you want them all on board. 0.65
00:30:45.000 You're probably going to have to make some tough decisions regarding our relationship with Israel.
00:30:49.000 So it's going to be a fascinating, fascinating next few years as specifically the Intel community decides on what to do about China.
00:30:58.000 And I guess a lot of it depends on how Iran sort of wraps up.
00:31:02.000 But it's fascinating.
00:31:04.000 It's funny that you mentioned the popular support for the Abraham Accords in Saudi Arabia. 0.93
00:31:08.000 It's a good thing they're a monarchy. 0.99
00:31:10.000 Yeah.
00:31:11.000 Well, yeah, it's true.
00:31:12.000 Absolute monarchy, too.
00:31:13.000 Yeah.
00:31:14.000 Well, I guess it all depends.
00:31:16.000 I mean, you had to look at what happens to Netanyahu, right?
00:31:18.000 I mean, Netanyahu's under a lot of pressure.
00:31:20.000 And when this war, like if you look at what was happening, people don't realize this.
00:31:24.000 People think Israel's much more straightforward, and it's a very chaotic place.
00:31:27.000 And if you look at what was happening in Israel leading up to October 7th, they were on the brink of a civil war.
00:31:34.000 I mean, people don't realize this.
00:31:35.000 Israel was quite literally on the brink of like a full blown civil war.
00:31:38.000 It was a very unstable country at the time.
00:31:40.000 And then October 7th happens.
00:31:42.000 You know, people speculate what exactly went down there.
00:31:45.000 But from the thousand foot picture, it happens, national unity occurs, and then they go to war.
00:31:51.000 Again, a very bizarre situation that they were really close to the brink, and who knows what would have happened there. 0.52
00:31:56.000 Instead, now we have a situation where Netanyahu has carried on, and now we're heading into this current situation where, from my perspective, I don't think Netanyahu wants this war with Iran to end until it resolves in regime change. 0.59
00:32:08.000 I think for the Israelis, regime change is the only acceptable outcome of the war, where for the United States, they'd be perfectly happy just sort of cutting the grass, right? 0.58
00:32:18.000 Mowing the lawn. 0.88
00:32:19.000 I think the Americans are happy with that arrangement. 1.00
00:32:22.000 But yeah, the Israelis. 0.53
00:32:23.000 As we saw with the MOU a few months ago, have the ability to derail negotiations, right? 0.73
00:32:28.000 Like JD Vance had this deal on the table, and then the Israelis sort of bombing southern Lebanon.
00:32:32.000 So, this is, I think, why a lot of people are really, really upset when Trump went into Iran because they're like, we're going to be in this situation.
00:32:40.000 It's tempting, sure, from the certainly from the Intel community's perspective, but nine times out of 10, it's going to end up in sort of a quasi quagmire, which is where we are.
00:32:50.000 I mean, I think the American people actually look, the American people tolerated kind of the mowing the grass airstrikes thing over Iraq for over a decade.
00:32:50.000 Yeah.
00:33:01.000 After the first Iraq war, the American people have shown that they're pretty comfortable with the U.S. military flying over other countries and dropping bombs. 0.97
00:33:14.000 They don't want to see caskets coming home full of American kids. 0.99
00:33:19.000 So, as long as the United States doesn't have a significant ground operation trying to go into Iran, I honestly think that obviously the people that are.
00:33:31.000 Involved in politics, the people that watch this show, the people that are politically aware, they're going to have strong opinions one way or the other about it.
00:33:41.000 People in the Beltway are going to have strong opinions.
00:33:43.000 But your average person in Omaha or people that live in Minnesota or what have you, right?
00:33:53.000 If it doesn't affect them and their gas prices don't go crazy, for the most part, Americans will be like, I'm going to work. 0.84
00:34:01.000 I got bills to pay because you don't see them if that's only if you don't see Americans coming home in body bags. 0.65
00:34:07.000 If you start seeing a lot of Americans coming home in body bags, all bets are off.
00:34:10.000 But the historically, the American population is pretty comfortable with the U.S. just flying over countries and dropping bombs.
00:34:17.000 I mean, drone strikes, all that stuff is kind of par for the course now in the American psyche, and it has been for the better part of two decades, three decades, and more.
00:34:25.000 It's the status quo at this point, right?
00:34:26.000 Yeah, well, and it's how empire works.
00:34:28.000 I mean, we're the empire, obviously. 0.97
00:34:30.000 This is what happened to the British.
00:34:31.000 I mean, they were kind of coasting along perfectly satisfied with. 0.91
00:34:34.000 Sort of what the Victorian version of mowing the lawn looked like until the Boer Wars.
00:34:38.000 And then that's when they started to see a lot of casualties.
00:34:40.000 Again, a lot of men coming home, and well, it wasn't really body bags, it was caskets.
00:34:45.000 But it had a serious effect on the British psyche.
00:34:48.000 And you saw them have this is more of what they started pushing towards dominions, which led to Canada, obviously, and other things.
00:34:54.000 But in regards to Iran, I mean, yeah, you know, Phil pointed out kind of the difference.
00:34:59.000 The X factor here is the fuel prices.
00:35:01.000 I mean, this is ultimately, I think, why Americans are upset is because.
00:35:05.000 Trump, the way he's conducted foreign policy is very much a kind of old school, like, well, let's get something out of it.
00:35:11.000 I'm not interested in spreading liberal democracy.
00:35:12.000 I'm interested in bringing home goodies for the American people.
00:35:17.000 This seemed like an ideological war in a lot of ways.
00:35:20.000 I mean, I do understand the geopolitical component to it, but in a lot of ways, it felt like it was a long time coming. 0.63
00:35:24.000 I mean, we've been talking about going to war with Iran for 50 years now.
00:35:28.000 People are upset that it's actually costing the American people to conduct this war.
00:35:33.000 I mean, we're seeing with the oil prices.
00:35:34.000 And that's why the Russia deal was fascinating.
00:35:38.000 It's like, what, two and a half million barrels of diesel we're buying from the Russians.
00:35:41.000 I mean, a lot of that will get supplied to the global market.
00:35:43.000 But you see that.
00:35:45.000 You see the fact that this ceasefire that was allegedly signed between the Ukrainians and Russians are just purely over energy infrastructure.
00:35:52.000 The obvious question is are the Americans anticipating sustained high fuel prices?
00:35:57.000 Are they maybe, if you're cutting a deal with the Russians, I think that indicates that there could be a potential ramp up in the conflict after the midterms.
00:36:05.000 But what's crazy right now is that the fuel prices are artificial, right?
00:36:08.000 Because you've been dumping oil from your strategic oil reserves.
00:36:12.000 Which is almost depleted now, which I think is the lowest ever.
00:36:14.000 Yeah, which is a crisis for the U.S., especially considering you're the biggest military force in the world.
00:36:19.000 You need oil to dodge the bullet with the last hurricane, but if that was a direct hit, eating squirrels would be now.
00:36:26.000 So, the question is, how long can it keep going?
00:36:27.000 Because again, Americans are saying, okay, price is expensive.
00:36:29.000 And it is.
00:36:30.000 I mean, let me tell you, it's even worse in Canada.
00:36:33.000 But again, it's artificially lower than it should be.
00:36:36.000 And if you guys run out of oil in that reserve, what happens?
00:36:39.000 That's a great point.
00:36:40.000 I mean, the entire globe right now is dumping their reserves.
00:36:44.000 The entire energy market right now is propped up by governments doing everything they can, again, at the global level, doing everything they can to keep fuel prices low.
00:36:54.000 That's the terrifying thing.
00:36:55.000 The question is, how long can we sustain it?
00:36:58.000 With the amount of fuel the United States has in the reserve right now, that gives you about two weeks of commercial use, which is nothing.
00:37:05.000 Again, if something serious happens, I haven't forbid a hurricane or just, again, sustained low imports, we're in, again, disaster territory.
00:37:18.000 It also sends a message to any adversaries. 0.64
00:37:21.000 Because if there was a country out there, and I don't know which one right now, let's say China, whatever, that wants to make a move on the US, even if it's like a.
00:37:30.000 A small kind of like geographical move far away from the U.S., not saying you're going to have your homeland invaded here, but they realize the U.S. can't really do much because you're running out of oil.
00:37:41.000 You can't really support it, unless, of course, the American people are willing to support prices that are 20, 30, 40, maybe 50% higher.
00:37:47.000 And now you're really going to hit at home.
00:37:49.000 That's going to be bad.
00:37:50.000 Absolutely. 0.63
00:37:51.000 I mean, we've seen that certainly the Iranians have auspices in the United States abroad.
00:37:56.000 I mean, you know, there was reporting, I think it was this morning, it might have been yesterday.
00:38:01.000 Burnham, Andy Burnham out of Britain, he was saying that it looks like R.A. Fairfield, there was Iranian fingerprints all over it.
00:38:07.000 Again, the involvement of the IRGC remains to be seen. 0.68
00:38:11.000 But if Burnham's getting out ahead of it and saying it looks like the Iranians might have been involved in some way, shape, or form, I think that's sort of labor speak for, yeah, they're involved.
00:38:19.000 And so if the Iranians are in this position where I would imagine those are sleeper cells of some sort, with the border as open as it was for four years, it begs the question, okay, how many of those guys are in the United States?
00:38:32.000 You know, how many of those guys are ready to, you know, walk over to a power plant and do something, you know, do something drastic? 0.84
00:38:40.000 Again, you have to start thinking like that.
00:38:41.000 We're in that situation.
00:38:42.000 Well, that's the point I think Americans didn't really understand under Biden at the time, you know, saying, okay, the border needs to be shut down.
00:38:49.000 That's the reason why, because if you don't vet people coming in, you don't know what can be set up.
00:38:54.000 And like you said, those sleeper cells, if and when, and hopefully never, but if they get activated, the damage is on domestic soil.
00:39:01.000 Look, you could have, You could easily have, with how many illegals crossed the border during the Biden administration, you could easily have 10, 20,000 people spread out throughout the United States that have nefarious intent, we'll just say.
00:39:19.000 And in considering the numbers, that's a small fraction of the people that came in.
00:39:24.000 So it's not like, oh man, there's no way that many people came in.
00:39:28.000 There was at least 10 million people that were let in during the Biden administration illegally.
00:39:35.000 Possibly more.
00:39:36.000 The number that I hear the most is 20 million.
00:39:39.000 Why do you think that is that Americans seem to dismiss the possibility of something like that happening so much?
00:39:45.000 Because it hasn't.
00:39:46.000 The last time any foreign power laid a lick on the motherland, the homeland, rather, would have been the Japanese with the. 0.83
00:39:54.000 No. 0.95
00:39:55.000 September 11th.
00:39:56.000 Well, yeah, but that wasn't like a direct, you know, this is the country declaring war and then they've.
00:40:01.000 Like a nation state kind of thing. 0.98
00:40:02.000 I think the last one would have been the Japanese like lighting a forest on fire and. 1.00
00:40:02.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:40:05.000 World War II.
00:40:07.000 Yeah, I mean, 9 11, I think, gives people this idea that, like, you know, terrorism can happen at any given moment.
00:40:12.000 But as far as, like, we're at war, and then all of a sudden the country we're at war at laid a lick on us, that's a completely different game.
00:40:17.000 But not even can, not even the idea of being at war with another country, but just, uh, a terrorist cell from another, you know, from any nation, whether you're at war or not, you know, having any type of attack on America.
00:40:28.000 Americans seemingly have dismissed that, at least the, the ones who aren't harsh on immigration have dismissed the possibility of something like that happening.
00:40:36.000 And kind of have, and it's because the discussion on immigration always comes back to empathy and always comes back to America bending over backwards to help out those less fortunate while ignoring the possibility of something really, really dangerous happening.
00:40:51.000 And it's funny too, because we were talking about it earlier today.
00:40:53.000 It's like, why do you think it's possible that the Democrats' take on immigration has changed so drastically in the last 15 to 20 years?
00:41:02.000 Well, it was economic at that time because the Democrats had a different voting block than they do now.
00:41:07.000 But in a lot of ways, it's like this discussion has become maybe it's because we never found WMDs.
00:41:12.000 So people thought that like they kind of got taken for a ride in that way, where it's like they don't imagine it can happen.
00:41:18.000 Therefore, they don't, you know, think of it as a threat.
00:41:21.000 So leave the borders open and who cares?
00:41:24.000 Yeah, I mean, this is kind of the problem in Europe when Russia moved in on Ukraine.
00:41:32.000 Is a lot of the leaders in Germany and Western Europe broadly were trying to whip up this idea, which may or may not have been reasonable, that look, we can be invaded at any moment and we should react accordingly.
00:41:47.000 Now, obviously, since they're quite left wing, the response wasn't, well, let's beef up our military.
00:41:51.000 It was just, well, let's try to get the Americans to pay for everything.
00:41:54.000 But It kind of got to the point where a lot of people in the first world and the developed world haven't quite wrapped their mind around the idea that, like, we could just have conflict within our borders in any given moment.
00:42:06.000 And, you know, we're at war with Iran, and then they deploy against some sort of sleeper cell attack in the United States.
00:42:12.000 Suddenly, that's the first time we've received an attack from a, you know, belligerent in a war in, you know, 100 years.
00:42:18.000 So, but people can't wrap their heads around that.
00:42:22.000 Same people in Europe can barely wrap their heads around that.
00:42:24.000 Well, the thing is, we're indeed the Pax Americana right now.
00:42:26.000 Right, the great American peace since World War II, there hasn't been a worldwide conflict or any threat to America, to North America in general.
00:42:35.000 So, you have generations, entire generations that grew up in a prosperous, safe environment, and they fail to realize that their forefathers fought and died to be able to grant them that privilege.
00:42:46.000 But that needs to be protected, that needs to be taken and cherished because it can happen.
00:42:50.000 If it's happened before, history will repeat itself.
00:42:52.000 I mean, so I agree that there could be some kind of infiltration, right, by like sleeper cells or what have you.
00:42:59.000 But the idea of a substantive military attack on the United States is a question of logistics that only a couple countries in the world could actually do.
00:43:15.000 Right.
00:43:16.000 The United States being one of them.
00:43:18.000 And nobody could do it without the United States knowing.
00:43:21.000 We still have a massive advantage just because of the way that the world is, right?
00:43:27.000 The Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, both of our.
00:43:32.000 Both of the coasts have massive mountain ranges that basically protect the interior.
00:43:38.000 The Appalachians aren't as big as the Rockies, but it's still a significant barrier.
00:43:45.000 You're not going to see a massive army rolling down from Canada into the United States, into Montana in tank country, or through North and South Dakota and have just Americans just watch these vehicles go by like it happened in Ukraine.
00:44:05.000 There are geographical.
00:44:07.000 Reasons why the United States is basically untouchable.
00:44:11.000 And you do also have to throw in the fact that the American public is very well armed.
00:44:17.000 I mean, we have more guns than we have people.
00:44:20.000 We have more guns per capita than any other country. 0.93
00:44:23.000 And were a foreign army actually be able to get the logistical means necessary and get people on the border to actually drive into the US, they're going to be met very quickly by, yes, regular military forces.
00:44:39.000 But one of the things that you tend to do if you're an invading army, Excuse me, is you try to subdue the population, and that's just not going to happen.
00:44:50.000 You can't, you're not going to disarm the American people. 0.99
00:44:54.000 I mean, look at the effort that the US had to put in disarming the Afghans. 0.74
00:44:58.000 And the Afghans, you know, they had weapons, but they were not nearly equipped like the average United States gun guy, you know. 0.99
00:45:11.000 So it's the idea of some kind of invasion into the US or something like that.
00:45:16.000 It's not going to happen.
00:45:17.000 You could see sleeper cells.
00:45:18.000 You could see terror attacks.
00:45:19.000 Unquestionably, that's not, that's completely within the realm of reality.
00:45:22.000 You can see significant attacks.
00:45:24.000 You could see even things like balloons coming over, dropping bombs or something like that.
00:45:28.000 But it's not going to be a situation where a massive army is going to land in the Gulf or, you know, send cutters up the Mississippi.
00:45:38.000 You know, that's not happening.
00:45:38.000 For sure.
00:45:39.000 Well, to your point, what you're talking about there is power projection.
00:45:41.000 And only the U.S. has it.
00:45:43.000 Even China does not have power projection.
00:45:45.000 I mean, they would struggle to take Taiwan, which is off their coast.
00:45:49.000 They would suffer massive casualty.
00:45:50.000 So, let alone go across an ocean.
00:45:52.000 They only have like two carriers.
00:45:53.000 I mean, they don't even have.
00:45:54.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:45:55.000 Britain has two carriers.
00:45:56.000 Yeah, there's no country in the world that can touch the U.S., that's for sure, on a more conventional front.
00:46:00.000 The problem now is more the unconventional front.
00:46:03.000 Cyber attack, terror.
00:46:05.000 That's where I would see vulnerabilities is just sort of like hampering the United States, right?
00:46:10.000 I don't think, yeah, to your point, no one's touching the homeland.
00:46:13.000 I mean, everyone's armed.
00:46:14.000 But also information warfare, like the way America's portrayed to the rest of the world is already, we're our own worst enemy in a lot of ways in that respect, because, you know, a lot of countries.
00:46:23.000 Dislike America just on principle in a lot of ways.
00:46:26.000 And then we tend to do, you know, we put ourselves in a position to be disliked.
00:46:31.000 And that's very dangerous as well, beyond just being attacked on your own soil.
00:46:36.000 It's how you're perceived by the rest of the world because the world runs on trade, the world runs on relationships between countries, between people.
00:46:43.000 So, well, Phil brought up the point that, you know, part of the X factor for the United States is the fact that everyone's armed.
00:46:49.000 And the ATF has made it slightly easier for gun owners here.
00:46:53.000 This is a fascinating.
00:46:55.000 Story that was put on my desk five minutes before we went to the show, short to go live for the show.
00:47:00.000 ATF changes suppressor rules for gun owners.
00:47:04.000 Under this guidance, the ATF will no longer enforce prior approval, registration, and tax stamp requirements for suppressors.
00:47:12.000 So, for the people that are unaware, last year in the big beautiful bill, there was a provision that would remove short barrel rifles, short barrel shotguns, Any other weapons and suppressors, they would take the tax away, right?
00:47:30.000 So there's no, there used to be a $200 tax you had to pay.
00:47:34.000 You had to send the stuff into the ATF.
00:47:35.000 The ATF would give you the stamp that said you paid the tax.
00:47:39.000 This was the premise of the registration for NFA, for most NFA items.
00:47:45.000 The only thing that's left in the NFA now are machine guns and destructive devices, anything basically like things that are like bombs or hand grenades or whatever.
00:47:54.000 Because those you can actually own as well.
00:47:56.000 You do have to have a tax stamp for each one.
00:47:58.000 They're a hassle, but any rifle that has a barrel length under 16 inches, any shotgun, I believe it's under 18 inches, and they have a random category for any other weapons and suppressors, you'd have a $200 tax stamp.
00:48:13.000 The $200 fee for the stamp was removed.
00:48:17.000 So then you still had the registration, but the Supreme Court has heard cases against the NFA saying, hey, this is an infringement on the Second Amendment, and the argument that was presented to the court and that they found.
00:48:31.000 Compelling was always that this isn't about regulating the weapons.
00:48:34.000 It's a $200 fee for the tax stamp.
00:48:38.000 So when you make the stamp, make the stamp, you know, $0 fee, the, I believe it was in Texas where they argued, look, without the fee, the constitutionality of this is, has evaporated, right?
00:48:52.000 The argument was the $200 is why they could do it.
00:48:56.000 And the judge found that that was the case.
00:48:58.000 He said, yeah, without the $200 fee, there is no tax.
00:49:01.000 That means that.
00:49:03.000 It's not under Congress's taxing power.
00:49:05.000 You can't have a registration for guns, a federal registration for guns.
00:49:10.000 The tax stamp is gone, so you don't have to have it.
00:49:13.000 Now, this was a couple of weeks ago when the judge actually made this decision, and there was a question as to whether the Trump administration was going to appeal.
00:49:22.000 They didn't appeal.
00:49:24.000 And so we were waiting on the ATF to give guidance because everybody's like, well, I don't want to become a felon.
00:49:31.000 I don't remember what the fee was, but you could get up to 10 years in prison for having an NFA item without a tax stamp for it.
00:49:38.000 So, the ATF released guidance, I believe it was Friday, and basically said, look, we're not going to enforce this for anyone.
00:49:44.000 Initially, it was just the people in the suit because another judge had said that we're getting rid of blanket injunctions, right?
00:49:53.000 And that was a couple, I think it was last year.
00:49:56.000 A judge says it's only the parties involved in the lawsuit that are actually going to be given relief.
00:50:02.000 No more blanket injunctions nationwide.
00:50:04.000 So, only the people, silencers, shop. 0.83
00:50:08.000 GOA and a handful of other, handful of states.
00:50:11.000 I think there's like 13 states that were a part of it.
00:50:14.000 And they were the people that were going to be covered under this.
00:50:16.000 And everyone else was still going to have to do, you know, do the jumping through the hoops or that.
00:50:20.000 That's what we assumed.
00:50:22.000 But the ATF has said, nope, we're not doing it for anybody.
00:50:25.000 For continuity, essentially, they're not going to be giving out.
00:50:29.000 They still allow you to register your NFA stuff if you want with the zero tax, zero dollar tax stamp or whatever.
00:50:37.000 And that's for people that are worried about.
00:50:39.000 Possible future administration changing this because anything that's done budgetary or any kind of fees or anything like that, all Congress has to do is pass a $1 tax and say, okay, you have to pay the tax and then the NFA will be back into effect for those particular items.
00:50:55.000 But right now, in I think it's 38 states, maybe 36, you don't have to file any paperwork to own a suppressor.
00:51:05.000 You don't have to, no, I'm sorry, you have to do your normal $4,473, which is the background check, but you don't have to file any.
00:51:11.000 Any other federal paperwork aside from your background check to buy a suppressor from any FFL, you can sell them to friends.
00:51:19.000 You can sell, buy them, you know, if your state allows it.
00:51:22.000 There are some states that have NFA requirements or some legislation about whether or not the NFA paperwork has to be filled out for the state.
00:51:32.000 I think Washington, you have to have NFA paperwork to have these things.
00:51:36.000 There are some other states where there are, you know, issues with it.
00:51:41.000 Some states, Ban NFA items outright, but in most of the country, you don't have to fill out NFA paperwork to buy short barrel rifles, short barrel shotguns, and uh, and destructive vices and silencers.
00:51:53.000 Now, this is a really big deal because it's the first serious change to the NFA in over 100 years, right?
00:51:59.000 So, the NFA, I believe it was almost 100 years.
00:52:03.000 I think it was 1934.
00:52:05.000 I probably got that wrong.
00:52:07.000 But it's a significant rollback of federal gun laws.
00:52:13.000 And that's something that we haven't seen in 90 years or something like that.
00:52:19.000 So, it's a big deal.
00:52:20.000 How do you feel about it?
00:52:22.000 Because there's been a lot of conversations about Trump's record.
00:52:25.000 This year, you know, like how people feel he's doing, it's been a huge point of contention.
00:52:30.000 How do gun owners see both?
00:52:31.000 Because I know bump stocks were a big part of the first administration. 0.96
00:52:35.000 Donald Trump is the most pro 2A president we have ever had. 0.98
00:52:41.000 So it was a Trump appointee that found in favor of the plaintiffs in this particular case. 0.88
00:52:46.000 It was Trump appointed attorney general that's decided that they're not going to push the issue and appeal.
00:52:54.000 It was the Trump appointed.
00:52:56.000 Director of the ATF that came out with this guidance.
00:53:01.000 And it was Donald Trump himself who told his attorney general, don't appeal.
00:53:07.000 So it was specifically from Donald Trump.
00:53:10.000 I've heard from multiple people at GOA and people at Silencer Shop that said Donald Trump himself told the attorney general, don't appeal the decision.
00:53:21.000 One of the criticisms for him was about red flag laws, right?
00:53:24.000 Am I misremembering that?
00:53:25.000 Donald Trump's not perfect.
00:53:26.000 Yeah.
00:53:27.000 Um, and a lot of times he'll speak, everybody knows he'll speak without you know, kind of just off the cuff.
00:53:34.000 Um, and Donald Trump's not a gun guy, I believe.
00:53:38.000 Don Jr. is a gun guy.
00:53:39.000 Oh, yeah, he's always out hunting, yeah.
00:53:42.000 And so, Don Jr. is the guy that's a little more plugged in.
00:53:45.000 Trump's the higher gun guy, yeah, probably.
00:53:49.000 Go get him.
00:53:50.000 Um, but yeah, so Donald Trump's not a gun guy.
00:53:53.000 So, you ask Donald Trump a question about something, and he's gonna come off with a knee jerk reaction, and on the bump stocks.
00:54:00.000 You know, he said something that was, you know, it was a bad call for gun owners.
00:54:08.000 But at the same time, the Supreme Court has found that forced reset triggers are perfectly legal, right?
00:54:15.000 And a forced reset trigger is a significantly better option if you want to imitate full auto fire than a bump stock, right?
00:54:27.000 There was also the red flag law thing oh, I want to get the guns first, get due process later.
00:54:32.000 But again, that was Donald Trump.
00:54:34.000 Talking off the cuff, he hadn't probably had not discussed any of that with anyone in a gun group or with anyone that has a sign, you know, any deeper knowledge than you know, a teaspoon, you know.
00:54:48.000 Um, so he said some bad things, absolutely.
00:54:52.000 But the proof is in him saying, Look, don't appeal this, yeah.
00:54:57.000 And the director that he has this is a crazy sentence, but director Cicada is a great.
00:55:06.000 ATF director.
00:55:07.000 Now, I never thought that I would have anything nice to say about anybody that worked at the ATF ever, but he's gone on, he was on Brendan Herrera's channel talking to Brendan Herrera.
00:55:18.000 Now, I think that because Brendan Herrera is looking like he might take the congressional seat there in Texas, I think that might have helped get the director on his podcast.
00:55:30.000 But at the same time, you know, he's on a gun tuber's podcast answering questions and telling people, you know, look, this is what we're trying to do.
00:55:38.000 So, Credit to him. 0.55
00:55:39.000 The guidance is absolutely, it's actually better than we had hoped.
00:55:43.000 You know, because I didn't think that they would just say, you know what, everybody, don't worry about it for now.
00:55:49.000 There are things that you might have to deal with in the future.
00:55:51.000 Future legislation can change this.
00:55:53.000 A new director can change this.
00:55:55.000 But for now, you don't have to worry about it.
00:55:59.000 It's fantastic stuff to see something in government shrinking in size.
00:56:03.000 Begs the question I mean, what's the gun situation in Canada?
00:56:06.000 Yeah, it's horrible.
00:56:08.000 You guys would have a heart attack.
00:56:10.000 I'm a gun owner, I have a license.
00:56:12.000 It's nearly impossible to get a gun, first and foremost.
00:56:15.000 And it's too bad because we're a nation of proud, like, we have a proud heritage of gun owners.
00:56:19.000 Yeah.
00:56:21.000 And since 1995, we had a shooting at a school, at a university, and then they brought forth some of the craziest gun laws ever.
00:56:27.000 And then recently, the Liberal Party in 2020 started using our version of executive orders to ban guns.
00:56:36.000 So we have classifications of guns.
00:56:37.000 We have non restricted, which are like shotguns and like your hunting rifle, restricted, which is going to be your like AR 15s and your pistols, and then prohibited.
00:56:45.000 That's like an AK 47.
00:56:47.000 So prohibited, you can't touch it.
00:56:48.000 But non restricted and restricted, you can get a license, two different licenses, like an escalating level of like tests and courses you need to do.
00:56:56.000 Now, I was an AR 15 owner.
00:56:58.000 I had a restricted firearm.
00:56:59.000 I own pistols as well.
00:57:01.000 And overnight, through signing that what we call an OIC, an order in council, they banned it completely overnight.
00:57:07.000 They reclassified it, making it prohibited.
00:57:09.000 So I became a criminal overnight, legally speaking, a criminal.
00:57:13.000 But they put an amnesty in place saying I can't be prosecuted until they create a buyback.
00:57:18.000 And now they've been trying for six years to do a buyback.
00:57:21.000 It ain't working out.
00:57:22.000 They earmarked, I think, $200 million.
00:57:24.000 Now it's over a billion.
00:57:26.000 Not a single gun was bought back yet.
00:57:28.000 It's an entire boondoggle.
00:57:30.000 But they've done that after that with 1,500 other firearms.
00:57:34.000 Right now, most of my guns are prohibited.
00:57:35.000 They're paperweight.
00:57:36.000 I'm not allowed to use them.
00:57:37.000 I'm not allowed to take them now out of my house.
00:57:39.000 And already our laws are priest chick. 0.95
00:57:41.000 Like you can only go to the range with them.
00:57:42.000 They need to be locked, trigger lock, case lock, you name it.
00:57:45.000 Ammo separated.
00:57:47.000 But no, the situation's bad.
00:57:49.000 And I love listening to you guys talk about guns.
00:57:51.000 Keep your guns.
00:57:52.000 Don't give an inch because they will take a mile.
00:57:54.000 Believe me, they will.
00:57:56.000 Does it vary by province?
00:57:57.000 I mean, is Alberta a little looser than, you know, Ontario?
00:58:00.000 No, so that's.
00:58:02.000 Regulated by the Criminal Code of Canada, which is federal, except Quebec, as usual, we're special.
00:58:08.000 We added, we tacked on an extra layer.
00:58:10.000 So we have something called Law 9.
00:58:12.000 So you need an extra course done and you need to be a member of a gun range.
00:58:16.000 If you're not, they come and take your guns.
00:58:18.000 Then on top of that, the last Conservative government back in like 2010 scrapped what we call the Long Gun Registry.
00:58:23.000 So even your non restricted guns, like your shotguns and whatnot, they were registered at the time.
00:58:29.000 Then they scrapped that.
00:58:30.000 So no more registration.
00:58:32.000 Well, Quebec turned around and said, Screw it.
00:58:35.000 We're going to enforce registration in the province only.
00:58:38.000 So, a lot of Quebec gun owners started buying guns in Ontario, bringing them to Quebec and not registering them.
00:58:44.000 Now, that's technically still illegal.
00:58:46.000 It's not criminal because the criminal code is federal.
00:58:48.000 So, unlike here, where some states have their own criminal code and you have your federal code too, us is just Canada wide, but it's still a civil penalty.
00:58:56.000 So, they'll fine you several thousands of dollars and confiscate your guns, your property, if you don't register them.
00:59:03.000 It's so fascinating hearing other.
00:59:05.000 I mean, I was talking to an Australian about the same thing recently, and it's like, As late as the 90s, they had basically gun laws basically on par with us.
00:59:12.000 And this is what it sounds like with Canada.
00:59:14.000 If you go back to the 1970s, probably just as easy of a time buying a firearm in Canada versus here, just to see the total.
00:59:20.000 It makes you thankful for the United States that the 2A is so rigid.
00:59:23.000 Because I don't think that we're like, you know, uniquely special compared to Australia or Canada.
00:59:28.000 It's just our forefathers had the foresight to like make it untouchable in the Constitution, which gives us a lot of leeway.
00:59:34.000 And I think that's absolutely fantastic.
00:59:36.000 I mean, Phil, does this sound like where you'd like to go?
00:59:38.000 Canada?
00:59:39.000 No.
00:59:39.000 Canada?
00:59:40.000 Well, I mean, I've been to Canada a lot.
00:59:42.000 And, you know, the Canadian people are great.
00:59:45.000 It's a great time to go up there and play shows and stuff.
00:59:47.000 I have friends that, you know, it is possible to go up there and go hunting and stuff.
00:59:50.000 I think you have to borrow guns.
00:59:52.000 I don't think you can bring guns across the.
00:59:54.000 You can, but they fall within, like, our regulations.
00:59:57.000 So, for example, if it's a short barrel rifle or shotgun, then it would be prohibited.
01:00:02.000 But if you have, like, a good old bolt action, you can definitely bring it.
01:00:05.000 There's paperwork to do, but you're allowed to bring it.
01:00:07.000 So, yeah, I mean, I don't intend to.
01:00:11.000 I mean, there's states that I won't live in, you know, because of gun laws.
01:00:15.000 So, I'm certainly not looking to.
01:00:18.000 Renounce my U.S. citizenship to move to Canada.
01:00:21.000 I'm not particularly fond of the cold.
01:00:22.000 Although, I mean, look, you know, being from New Hampshire, we're not that far from the Canadian border and we get about the same.
01:00:29.000 You probably have cousins.
01:00:30.000 I mean, Levante, you probably.
01:00:31.000 Oh, I have family that my great great grandfather came down from Canada.
01:00:37.000 Yeah.
01:00:38.000 So you guys are probably like six cousins or something?
01:00:39.000 Maybe.
01:00:40.000 It's not that many.
01:00:40.000 Maybe.
01:00:41.000 I'm less relative.
01:00:42.000 Not that many of you guys up there.
01:00:43.000 Yeah.
01:00:44.000 But yeah, I mean.
01:00:45.000 New Hampshire, you said, right?
01:00:46.000 Yeah.
01:00:46.000 Well, I mean, I'm from Massachusetts originally.
01:00:49.000 I live in New Hampshire now.
01:00:50.000 I love that state motto live free or die.
01:00:52.000 Yeah, you know, it's the best.
01:00:52.000 And, you know, of all the states, like New Hampshire consistently clocks in at the freest or the second freest, depending on your metric or whatever.
01:01:03.000 But, you know, the free staters in New Hampshire, the libertarians up there, they're the real good libertarians.
01:01:09.000 They're fiercely protective of their rights and they're smart.
01:01:15.000 They've done what you should do, which is find the most viable political vehicle.
01:01:21.000 Get yourself and your friends elected and pass laws that suit your political preferences.
01:01:30.000 So, like the Free Staters, the Free Staters have put a lot of pressure.
01:01:33.000 And believe me, there's a lot of progressives that had moved to New Hampshire from Massachusetts because they didn't like paying Massachusetts tax, but they kept voting like they were from Massachusetts.
01:01:44.000 The Free Staters came in and they started running and they've done absolutely wonderful things.
01:01:49.000 There's only a handful of, not even a handful, there's a very few.
01:01:54.000 Actual gun laws in New Hampshire, and usually those are fish and game laws.
01:01:59.000 They're not about actually prohibitions on what you can carry.
01:02:02.000 You can own anything you want in New Hampshire.
01:02:05.000 They basically don't have gun laws.
01:02:06.000 There's no permit or anything to carry a gun concealed.
01:02:11.000 There are more machine guns in New Hampshire per capita than any other state.
01:02:17.000 I love that.
01:02:18.000 Legal, legally owned machine guns.
01:02:20.000 I think it's great.
01:02:20.000 And you can tell the Libertarian Party in New Hampshire was doing so well because they got kicked.
01:02:24.000 Out of the national.
01:02:24.000 Yes, they did.
01:02:26.000 They're winning too much.
01:02:27.000 That's right.
01:02:28.000 They were too based for the actual cock the Libertarian Party.
01:02:32.000 True.
01:02:33.000 Well, we're going to move.
01:02:33.000 We're going to grab another ad here.
01:02:35.000 I do want to grab some of these super chats that were coming in.
01:02:38.000 Wyatt Caldenberg says Tate, in World War II, Japan occupied the Western Aleutian Islands for over a year.
01:02:45.000 They executed the Americans who were living there.
01:02:47.000 There were battles, too.
01:02:48.000 Yeah, you have to go like really far out.
01:02:49.000 But yeah, in the Western Aleutians, the Japanese, there were some skirmishes with the Americans.
01:02:54.000 As far as on the mainland, the Kind of unknown.
01:02:57.000 The Japanese were able to launch a balloon and it ended up lighting a forest on fire in Oregon. 0.50
01:03:02.000 I don't think anyone got hurt.
01:03:03.000 I think a firefighter got hurt.
01:03:04.000 I think it was the only casualty on the American mainland. 1.00
01:03:06.000 Japanese were very impolite to the Americans in the 40s. 1.00
01:03:10.000 Yeah, you know? 1.00
01:03:11.000 Very impolite.
01:03:12.000 And, you know, how far they've come with Hello Kitty and showing underwear.
01:03:17.000 They're Dropping pianos from balloons and stuff. 0.99
01:03:29.000 Wiley Coyote shit, you know? 0.99
01:03:30.000 Yeah, it was really wacky and wild. 1.00
01:03:33.000 Also, let's see.
01:03:34.000 This is from DB Dorr.
01:03:37.000 He says, RIP RJ Mitty, a.k.a. Walter Flynn White Jr., gone far too soon.
01:03:43.000 The guy from uh, what was it?
01:03:45.000 Um, Breaking Bad, Breaking Bad.
01:03:47.000 I've never seen it.
01:03:48.000 Son, yeah, he uh, I believe he had cerebral palsy, and yeah, obviously, he had cerebral palsy in the show as well.
01:03:54.000 And uh, it's a really sad story.
01:03:56.000 I don't, I don't want to uh, say too much about it because I'm hearing things.
01:04:02.000 Um, but yeah, 34 years old, you know, living with cerebral palsy is rough.
01:04:07.000 I can't imagine that kind of uh, you know, that how tough that is, but uh, you know, my thoughts are with his uh, family and friends, so.
01:04:15.000 That's horrible.
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01:05:39.000 More euthanasia deaths in Canada than gun homicides in the United States.
01:05:44.000 That is stunning because, you know, we hear what's going on at the maid, you know, you broke your leg and they try to kill you or whatever. 0.87
01:05:51.000 When you put it into that context, something that Americans.
01:05:55.000 You know, have this perception as very widespread, which it is, as gun homicides.
01:05:59.000 And then the Canadians are at the hands of the government.
01:06:02.000 I mean, this is unbelievable stuff.
01:06:05.000 Yeah, well, that's the state of Canada nowadays.
01:06:07.000 It's easier to, you know, off people than it is to fix the issues we have in our country.
01:06:13.000 Look, initially, I think it came from a compassionate place.
01:06:16.000 It was supposed to be for people with terminal illness that were, you know, compassionate end of life, as we called it.
01:06:22.000 They were suffering and they just couldn't take it anymore.
01:06:24.000 I get that.
01:06:25.000 It's mutated now into an off ramp for anyone and for any reason.
01:06:32.000 And at a point right now where they're discussing in our parliament that they want to be able to offer made to people with mental illness.
01:06:39.000 The people the most vulnerable to this entire thing, they want to offer it to them.
01:06:45.000 But the reality is that, and it's going to sound so grim, our healthcare system is so overloaded.
01:06:50.000 And now with the boomers getting a little bit older, retiring, and requiring more medical care. 0.97
01:06:56.000 The system can't accommodate it. 0.99
01:06:57.000 So there's rumors, and I can't vouch and confirm this, but there's rumors that it's just a tool used to be able to offload or to lessen the burden on the medical system in Canada.
01:07:09.000 It certainly seems, I mean, this is what I've seen on Twitter at least. 0.77
01:07:11.000 You know, it's neither here nor there, but people saying sort of the more costly your medical bills are going to be, some sort of computer in the medical office spits out, kill this guy.
01:07:21.000 It's like a math problem.
01:07:22.000 Well, this is the argument that the conservatives were making about.
01:07:27.000 In America, we're making about the ACA here in like 2012.
01:07:33.000 You know, the idea that it was turned into a boogeyman of death panels, right?
01:07:37.000 You know, who's going to decide?
01:07:39.000 But the reality is, there's a limited number of doctors.
01:07:43.000 There's a limited number of, or there's a limited amount of, you know, services that can be given out.
01:07:49.000 And as boomers get older, they're going to be taking, you know, they're going to be looking at, okay, who is likely to last longest?
01:07:58.000 Are we going to extend this person's life by two years and spend this much money? 0.73
01:08:04.000 The end of life care is where the vast majority of your lifetime expense on health care will be, right?
01:08:10.000 You're going to spend.
01:08:11.000 If you spend, just for easy numbers, if you spend $100,000 on health care in your entire life, you're going to spend like 80 of it, most likely in the last two to five years, trying to extend your life by a couple years.
01:08:27.000 Nowadays, with our system, although it's expensive, people, not everybody, and people have to deal with insurance companies and stuff, but you have the option and it's not something that the government's involved in.
01:08:40.000 If you have a single payer system, the government gets a say.
01:08:46.000 You know, and there are, there's also the arguments about, hey, look, you know, if you're going to live on a healthy lifestyle, why should I pay for your health care?
01:08:56.000 I know Canadians aren't, don't have the same kind, so don't have as extreme weight problems.
01:09:01.000 We're getting there as Americans.
01:09:02.000 We're getting there right behind.
01:09:04.000 But yeah, you know, it is a reality of like, look, if we're paying for your health care, then the government, the people are going to have a say in what you're allowed to eat, you know, how much you exercise, because exercise and diet are major.
01:09:18.000 You know, factors in how healthy you are overall.
01:09:22.000 And these are realities that Canada is seeing.
01:09:24.000 Now, obviously, medical assistance in dying is a different animal than just healthcare overall.
01:09:31.000 But the question does become well, is it worth saving this person's life?
01:09:34.000 Is it, you know, how long can we really expect to extend their life because they've got 60 years of treating their body like it's a party and now they're 75 and they're falling apart?
01:09:47.000 Can we get them to 80?
01:09:49.000 How much is it going to cost to get them to 80?
01:09:50.000 And that's.
01:09:51.000 Calculation becomes real when the government is actually making that.
01:09:55.000 And you're seeing it in Canada, obviously extending down to basically anyone they can get, anyone that feels like they want to end their life.
01:10:05.000 The government's like, step right up.
01:10:08.000 Yeah, no, it's completely messed up.
01:10:10.000 And I know there's a big push from the left in America to have a single payer system like Canada.
01:10:16.000 My advice don't do it, it's horrible.
01:10:19.000 I had the chance to live in the US, I lived in Florida for a couple of years, and I had the chance to use the American healthcare system.
01:10:25.000 And it blew my mind.
01:10:26.000 It blew my mind.
01:10:27.000 I was at the gym, I busted my shoulder.
01:10:29.000 So I'm like, okay, I need to go see a doctor. 0.72
01:10:31.000 And I thought, okay, just like in Canada, I'm going to have to go and wait hours in the hospital, like the emergency room.
01:10:39.000 Instead, I called the primary care physician and they told me right away, come tomorrow, 9 a.m.
01:10:46.000 I was mind blown.
01:10:47.000 Like, tomorrow, next day appointment, sure.
01:10:50.000 So I go in and I start talking to the doctor the next day.
01:10:54.000 And I'm rushing through it, right?
01:10:55.000 I'm speeding through it because I'm used to being treated like a number.
01:10:57.000 Like cattle in Canada, where they have five minutes to talk to you, on to the next.
01:11:01.000 She stopped me and she's like, Slow down, slow down.
01:11:03.000 She started asking me about my history, family history, medical history.
01:11:07.000 I was like, Wow, you're treating me like a human being.
01:11:10.000 So then she looks at me, examines me, takes a whole half hour.
01:11:13.000 And then she tells me, Look, I'm going to have to send you to imaging.
01:11:15.000 You need an MRI.
01:11:17.000 So I'm like, Okay, how does it work?
01:11:18.000 She's like, I'm going to send a script out.
01:11:19.000 They'll contact you to book an appointment.
01:11:21.000 So, okay.
01:11:22.000 I drive back home.
01:11:24.000 Five minutes while driving back home, I get a call.
01:11:26.000 Hey, this is Bowie's Imaging Center.
01:11:28.000 Am I talking to Elliot?
01:11:29.000 What's up?
01:11:29.000 Yeah, it's me.
01:11:31.000 So, this is to book an appointment.
01:11:32.000 When are you available?
01:11:33.000 So, I said, what's the soonest appointment you have?
01:11:36.000 Expecting two, three, four weeks, maybe.
01:11:38.000 She's like, How about 9 p.m. tonight?
01:11:42.000 I was like, Same day?
01:11:43.000 She's like, Yeah.
01:11:43.000 I was like, You guys are open that late?
01:11:45.000 She's like, Yeah.
01:11:45.000 Again, I'm coming from a place where I would have had to wait months.
01:11:49.000 So I'm like, Sure, nine is good.
01:11:50.000 She's like, Okay, so who are you insured with?
01:11:51.000 I'm like, Oh, I'm uninsured.
01:11:53.000 I'm going to pay out of pocket.
01:11:54.000 And I'm bracing.
01:11:55.000 She's like, Yeah, I'm going to have to let you know.
01:11:57.000 It's going to be.
01:11:57.000 And I'm like, expecting.
01:11:58.000 Again, you hear stories in Canada, it's going to cost me like, I'm going to have to remortgage my property.
01:12:03.000 She's going to be $325.
01:12:06.000 $325.
01:12:07.000 I'm like, sure.
01:12:08.000 No stress.
01:12:09.000 So I go that night, the kindest people ever, get the results the next day.
01:12:13.000 Everything's fine.
01:12:14.000 You know, take some ibuprofen, some Tylenol, everything's good.
01:12:18.000 I'm freaking out.
01:12:19.000 I call my mother.
01:12:19.000 I call back home.
01:12:21.000 I'm like, you won't guess it.
01:12:22.000 You won't believe this.
01:12:23.000 I tell her the entire story.
01:12:25.000 And then she tells me that she has a friend who needed a non emergency MRI as well in Canada.
01:12:30.000 And going through the public system would have been six months' wait.
01:12:33.000 So she decided to go through the private system because we also have like an accessory private system, everything out of pocket.
01:12:38.000 And through the private system, I had to wait two weeks longer than what I had to wait in Florida.
01:12:43.000 And it cost her $1,200, more expensive than in America.
01:12:47.000 So, since that day, I realized that all the lies we've been told in Canada is BS.
01:12:52.000 It's not true.
01:12:53.000 Now, don't get me wrong, there's some issues here too with the healthcare system.
01:12:55.000 And there are some people that are uninsured.
01:12:57.000 From what I rate, it's about 10% of the population or don't have any coverage.
01:13:01.000 But nonetheless, you don't want to do like we do in Canada.
01:13:05.000 Like, my back is busted.
01:13:08.000 Like, I injured myself again at the gym.
01:13:08.000 Okay.
01:13:11.000 And I'm so busy, I can't find the time to go to the hospital to wait because that's what I'm going to have to do.
01:13:17.000 Wait to go see a GP, a general care practitioner, as it's called, and get a referral to go get an MRI done.
01:13:23.000 I don't have the time.
01:13:24.000 And I wish I was in the US like back in the day where I could get it done in 24 hours and just pay out of pocket.
01:13:30.000 So you guys have a good and you just don't realize it.
01:13:32.000 And anyone that has money in Canada goes to the US anyways to get treated.
01:13:36.000 It's faster and it's better care.
01:13:37.000 Because if you go in there with your back, they'll just shoot you.
01:13:40.000 Yeah, at that point for sure.
01:13:42.000 And here's the crazy stats in Canada, the entire country, We have less MI machines than most states do.
01:13:50.000 Wow.
01:13:50.000 That's nuts.
01:13:51.000 I mean, there are only 60 million Canadians.
01:13:54.000 So, yeah, 40, 40.
01:13:55.000 40.
01:13:56.000 Oh, 40.
01:13:56.000 Even less.
01:13:57.000 But not because of MAID, now there's only 40.
01:14:00.000 There's been a lot of people taking MAID.
01:14:04.000 Well, it's crazy.
01:14:04.000 I mean, these stats, the world's fastest growing assisted dying program.
01:14:10.000 Okay.
01:14:11.000 MAID is now tied to cerebrovascular diseases, the fifth leading cause of death in Canada.
01:14:18.000 Okay.
01:14:21.000 Made assessors and providers do not treat it like a last resort.
01:14:24.000 The percentage of made requests that are denied continues to decline.
01:14:27.000 Currently, it's at 3.5%.
01:14:28.000 So you have a 97% chance of getting your made request approved.
01:14:33.000 It's like a broken finger.
01:14:33.000 What do they deny?
01:14:35.000 Surely they're declining.
01:14:35.000 Who knows?
01:14:36.000 Well, some doctors refuse to offer it on moral grounds.
01:14:40.000 I get it.
01:14:40.000 But the problem is, you have these, I don't want to call them crazy, like woke doctors, but there are some of those.
01:14:46.000 I saw one guy, he got like 400 people in one year.
01:14:49.000 You got like deed to doctor.
01:14:49.000 There you go.
01:14:49.000 Right?
01:14:50.000 On a death.
01:14:51.000 He's got a big picture of Dr. Kevorkian up in his house.
01:14:55.000 Yeah.
01:14:55.000 Like how he works.
01:14:56.000 Well, they think they're doing the right thing.
01:14:58.000 They think they're doing people a favor.
01:15:00.000 But again, there are some folks out there that are truly, legitimately suffering and they're terminal.
01:15:05.000 There's nothing that can be done.
01:15:06.000 I get it and I respect that.
01:15:08.000 But nonetheless, I don't think it's something the state should be paying.
01:15:11.000 You know, I believe in freedom.
01:15:12.000 I believe people should be free to do whatever they want.
01:15:14.000 I'm a huge libertarian in that regard.
01:15:16.000 But I don't think, especially considering I'm paying for it with my taxes, I should not be helping people end their days.
01:15:24.000 Yeah.
01:15:26.000 I. I'm pretty opposed to just on ethical grounds.
01:15:28.000 I'm like, just ride it out.
01:15:30.000 Just ride it out.
01:15:31.000 Just see what happens.
01:15:31.000 You never know.
01:15:32.000 Especially in Canada's case, you broke your arm, it'll heal.
01:15:35.000 I mean, I get like, you know, the worst case scenario, you know, you have some sort of like chronic, you know, disease that you're just being tortured and you know you're going to die in three weeks anyway.
01:15:43.000 I feel like we've always had sort of solutions for that.
01:15:46.000 And it's kind of one of the, you know, it's when you're engaging in all sorts of debates, people will take the worst case scenario and you're like, well, okay, if I'm to accept, you know, we can debate with the worst case scenario, then you should be willing to concede that all of these other reasons why you would, for example, use MAID are purely, you know, that's over the top, right?
01:16:04.000 It's kind of the same thing with abortion, where you'd be debating abortion.
01:16:07.000 They're like, yeah, what about rape or something like that?
01:16:10.000 And you're like, well, that's an exceptionally small proportion of abortions.
01:16:14.000 What about the 99%?
01:16:15.000 That's kind of what we need to be debating over. 0.75
01:16:18.000 Same thing happens with MADE.
01:16:21.000 And yeah, that seems like the logical endpoint that it's a market.
01:16:25.000 So the computer is going to spit, yeah, this person's going to cost us too much money, offer MADE. 0.74
01:16:31.000 And with the amount of mentally ill people these days, a lot of people jump at the opportunity. 0.80
01:16:35.000 People jump at the opportunity to destroy their lives so quickly. 0.78
01:16:38.000 With or without MAID anyway.
01:16:39.000 But it's even worse than that.
01:16:41.000 There are instances now, reports, and this is being reported on, where you have elderlies who don't request MAID or offered MAID.
01:16:49.000 They say, I'll consider it.
01:16:51.000 And then they're fast tracked.
01:16:52.000 And the problem is a lot of these elderlies are vulnerable, right?
01:16:55.000 They don't necessarily have all the understandings.
01:16:57.000 And there was this article just a couple of weeks ago where this, and the grandkids or maybe even the kids that came out publicly and said, My mother did not want to use MAID and they forced it on her.
01:17:09.000 And I mean, even me closer to home, my grandmother, now she's gone.
01:17:12.000 But at the time when she was in her last few weeks of life, she was offered maid.
01:17:18.000 And she said it time and time again I refuse.
01:17:19.000 I refuse.
01:17:20.000 She's very religious. 0.72
01:17:21.000 So for her, it was a non avenue.
01:17:23.000 But just the thing that is being offered again, you go to a hospital, you go to the healthcare system, nurses, doctors for care, not to end your life.
01:17:33.000 Like you're like filling out the form, you accidentally check the maid box, and you're like, oh, slime me out box.
01:17:39.000 And you're like, I'm.
01:17:40.000 Throw you out the room.
01:17:41.000 Yeah, literally.
01:17:43.000 There is something to me that, you know, there's been stories for as long as stories have been told in movies and television about the ethical quandaries of what happens when pain gets to be too much.
01:17:57.000 And it doesn't just have to be a story about somebody who's at the end of their life.
01:18:01.000 I mean, it can be stories about people with severe depression, people with severe mental illness.
01:18:06.000 And there's always an interesting discussion to be had in that form about, you know, At what point do you stop living for you and you start living for somebody else?
01:18:17.000 And that's all interesting and very analytical, but that's like to me the idea that it would get as far as being cosigned by the government and being something that ends up on a balance sheet is just, even I can't look at that and be like, that's a bridge too far.
01:18:32.000 Yeah.
01:18:32.000 Well, we're at a point too in Canada where our budget's so screwed.
01:18:36.000 We're just not capable of making our needs.
01:18:39.000 Just the idea of the, and I understand that it's done in other ways, that it's something that we do when we send kids to war.
01:18:46.000 That human beings as lines on a balance sheet after a fact has always been, it's a fact of governance, right?
01:18:52.000 I understand that.
01:18:54.000 But there's something so nihilistic and utterly modern about that, that we've taken it so far to that end point.
01:19:02.000 And maybe that does have to do with entering into a more secular society than perhaps we've ever been.
01:19:10.000 And that has something to do with it.
01:19:12.000 But it is depressing to think about.
01:19:14.000 And it's depressing to think that my country now is known for that.
01:19:14.000 Absolutely.
01:19:17.000 It's not known for, I don't know, Putin and maple syrup anymore.
01:19:21.000 I don't know, being good at hockey.
01:19:22.000 Not anymore.
01:19:23.000 Maple syrup is still pretty high on the list.
01:19:23.000 I don't know.
01:19:26.000 It's pretty good.
01:19:26.000 It's pretty good.
01:19:27.000 We produce, I think, 90%.
01:19:28.000 Actually, Quebec produces 90% of Canada's and Canada produces 80% of the world.
01:19:33.000 Vermont has some good maple syrup too, I think.
01:19:35.000 A little bit.
01:19:36.000 But you know, it's despicable, I find, that we're at a point now where this, not only is it being offered, but we're topping the charts where, again, people now are using or dying more through maid than guns in America.
01:19:48.000 Which is number one at something, though.
01:19:50.000 It's like, see, gun control works.
01:19:52.000 Yeah, there you go.
01:19:53.000 No, but we've lost the moral high ground, right?
01:19:55.000 Because, again, in Canada, they love to attack the US on the guns, guns, guns.
01:19:58.000 It's like, okay, guys.
01:19:59.000 Well, at least, you know, Americans are not dying because they're government.
01:20:02.000 You can, you can, and, you know, as the resident gun guy, you can remove about 20 or 30 neighborhoods from the equation.
01:20:14.000 And the U.S. looks safer than like Switzerland.
01:20:17.000 Yeah, it becomes on par with Europe.
01:20:19.000 I thought it was like three or four cities.
01:20:22.000 I'm guessing.
01:20:23.000 Right.
01:20:25.000 It's really like you could, you just take out, you know, a handful of, not, and again, not even cities, but just neighborhoods.
01:20:31.000 Yeah.
01:20:32.000 You know, just one fan group of a music genre.
01:20:36.000 And you're, yeah.
01:20:38.000 And you're, you're, you know, the American, you know, gun violence numbers basically evaporate.
01:20:45.000 Absolutely.
01:20:45.000 And again, when I was living in Florida, I was in Sarasota County, which is one of the counties with the most concealed carrier weapons licenses.
01:20:53.000 And you know what?
01:20:53.000 Safe as hell.
01:20:55.000 The other day, I was at Walmart and saw two open carries.
01:20:58.000 Yeah. 0.78
01:20:59.000 At the Walmart Bison. 1.00
01:21:00.000 This is the one place I don't want to see open carries.
01:21:02.000 No, no.
01:21:03.000 This is Walmart. 0.72
01:21:03.000 Both of these gentlemen looked like the. 0.72
01:21:06.000 The prime of reverence for their firearms.
01:21:10.000 I hope that's because I go to Walmart and if people are open carrying, it's like they're hoping they have a target.
01:21:14.000 They're like, just try it, dude.
01:21:15.000 They're like, please, someone put it in here.
01:21:17.000 Again, I'm as pro 2A as it comes.
01:21:19.000 Carry however you want to carry.
01:21:21.000 For me, and if anyone were to ask my recommendation, don't open carry because then you make yourself a target.
01:21:28.000 If the day comes where you have to use it, there's someone that's like, oh, decides they're going to shoot up the mall or whatever that you're at.
01:21:36.000 They're going to be shooting at you.
01:21:37.000 So, you know.
01:21:38.000 You might not want to.
01:21:39.000 You lose the element of surprise, which is a huge benefit.
01:21:42.000 Well, one dude who's also carrying, he's like four o'clock or five.
01:21:44.000 So it wasn't even like, it was like too far back.
01:21:47.000 It looked like somebody could, you know, with an outside the waistband holder.
01:21:51.000 Yeah, I've seen people at Walmart that literally have it to where you could just walk up behind them and grab it.
01:21:56.000 It's huge.
01:21:57.000 He's like carrying a quick draw holster.
01:21:59.000 I'm like, yeah, that can't be.
01:21:59.000 Okay, they don't even have retention, like a retention holster.
01:22:02.000 Yeah.
01:22:02.000 I mean, and look, I carry appendix because, you know, you can bend over.
01:22:08.000 And there are people that get weird about that.
01:22:09.000 They're like, oh, am I going to point it at my body?
01:22:11.000 And it's like, yeah, I get it.
01:22:12.000 You do, and if you're going to carry appendix, you should practice before you load it and make sure you're comfortable with it.
01:22:19.000 But, like, if you're trying to get fast, like.
01:22:22.000 So I'm just going to carry around a crossbow.
01:22:23.000 There you go.
01:22:24.000 Yeah, why not?
01:22:25.000 Strap it in the back.
01:22:26.000 Broad sword.
01:22:26.000 I have a rocket launcher just on my back and a riot shield.
01:22:30.000 That you need to have an NF, a tax stamp for the rocket launcher.
01:22:34.000 Yeah, well, for the rocket, not the launcher.
01:22:36.000 Okay.
01:22:37.000 Yeah, that's my plan is like concealed carry a rocket launcher.
01:22:41.000 $200 for every round.
01:22:43.000 Yeah.
01:22:44.000 And you have to have an ATF official there when you set it off.
01:22:49.000 It's a big hassle.
01:22:49.000 I'll FaceTime them.
01:22:50.000 I'm like, hey, I'm in a self defense situation.
01:22:53.000 Just make sure this is cool.
01:22:55.000 Check your local laws.
01:22:57.000 I'm only a lay person.
01:22:59.000 It's a hassle to have explosives.
01:23:00.000 I did that.
01:23:00.000 Yeah, I used to hold up the gas stations with rocket launchers.
01:23:03.000 Yeah, there's a lot of things you can do in GTA that you can't do in real life.
01:23:07.000 Maybe not in New Hampshire, though.
01:23:08.000 New Hampshire, you can get away with a lot of stuff.
01:23:08.000 New Hampshire, I think most of the time.
01:23:10.000 You can get away with a lot.
01:23:11.000 Well, I want to ask you another question about because we have you here and.
01:23:16.000 I want to subject the audience to Canadian politics because a lot of this has a lot of salience with American politics.
01:23:24.000 Who don't realize people just want to hear about the Save Act all day long or Ilhan Omar.
01:23:29.000 And it's like, that's great and all.
01:23:31.000 But when you go bigger picture, Canada, once again, we've said it a million times, really is this cautionary tale.
01:23:37.000 One place I see some hope, correct me if I'm wrong, is these separatist movements that one allows places like Quebec and Alberta to determine their own destiny, but secondarily kind of puts a black eye on the Canadian government on Ottawa and sort of maybe gives them a reality check.
01:23:52.000 I mean, this is from The Guardian.
01:23:53.000 The results coming in last week separatists went in Quebec.
01:23:57.000 Does that bring Canada any closer to separation?
01:24:00.000 Lack of majority puts any referendum in doubt.
01:24:03.000 But again, we got this new guy coming in.
01:24:05.000 I'm going to butcher his name, Paul St. Pierre Plamadon.
01:24:08.000 Amazing.
01:24:09.000 There we go.
01:24:10.000 He's kind of this mixed bag, right? 0.97
01:24:10.000 Let's go. 0.97
01:24:12.000 He's kind of socially conservative, fiscally liberal, kind of mixed bag, but interesting nonetheless.
01:24:18.000 Yeah, well, the party tends to be a left leaning party for sure.
01:24:21.000 But in the last few years, there's been more and more right leaning individuals partaking in it.
01:24:26.000 Now, the big thing with, and we call them PSPP.
01:24:29.000 For short, because nobody says his entire name, anyways.
01:24:31.000 SPP.
01:24:31.000 That's clear.
01:24:33.000 So, even that's pretty long.
01:24:35.000 But his number one thing is immigration.
01:24:38.000 It's protecting the culture and the nation of Quebec, if we can call it that.
01:24:43.000 Sure, they want to bring a referendum.
01:24:44.000 I don't know if it's going to pass.
01:24:45.000 A lot of people don't know this, but Quebec tried twice already once in 1980, once in 1995.
01:24:51.000 1980 was not even close.
01:24:53.000 1995 came damn close.
01:24:55.000 We're talking less than 1%.
01:24:56.000 So, it was like, oh, yeah, it was less than 51.49.
01:25:00.000 So, it came damn close to passing.
01:25:02.000 He wants to bring it back.
01:25:04.000 No, sorry.
01:25:04.000 Go ahead.
01:25:05.000 Well, I'm just wondering if Quebec were to become its own nation, do you think that that would cascade and have?
01:25:05.000 I thought you were going to.
01:25:14.000 Because I know there's a talk about Alberta, and I don't know about the other provinces, but do you think that would be something where basically Canada is just Ottawa?
01:25:24.000 Yeah, well, there are the West.
01:25:27.000 If Alberta separates, then Saskatchewan is joining as well.
01:25:30.000 They're two very wealthy provinces, two very conservative provinces.
01:25:34.000 The problem in Alberta is that they don't have the support.
01:25:36.000 I wish they did. 0.77
01:25:37.000 I want Alberta to separate.
01:25:39.000 I think it's the greatest province.
01:25:40.000 They don't have the support, sadly.
01:25:42.000 They're going to have a referendum in a few weeks and it's probably not going to pass.
01:25:46.000 Quebec has a little bit more of a leg to stand on.
01:25:49.000 Not a leg to stand on.
01:25:50.000 Alberta has a leg to stand on, but Quebec has a historical and cultural difference.
01:25:53.000 First of all, sure, we speak French.
01:25:55.000 We use a different set of laws in Quebec.
01:25:57.000 We use the civil law, French derived, versus the common law in the rest of Canada.
01:26:00.000 So if you're a lawyer in Quebec, you can't practice in Canada and vice versa.
01:26:05.000 And due to our history of being technically colonized, because we lost the war against the Brits and that's why it's not French anymore, we've always been very reclusive, living in a silo.
01:26:14.000 Now, the thing in Quebec, it's still not super popular.
01:26:17.000 It's maybe 30% ish support for separation.
01:26:21.000 What it does though, and it's always good for Quebec and the politicians and the government of Quebec, it buys them kind of a card to use with Ottawa, with the federal government.
01:26:31.000 And that's how we get all these little freebies, like being in charge of our immigration system, which is.
01:26:36.000 Only Quebec does that compared to other provinces, like receiving entitlements and programs and money.
01:26:41.000 So, Quebec likes to use that card to get bigger favors from Ottawa.
01:26:46.000 Now, keep in mind though, Quebec is still the province with the highest support for the current Prime Minister of Canada, Kearney.
01:26:52.000 He's nowhere in Canada is he more popular than in Quebec for some reason.
01:26:56.000 It's wild.
01:26:57.000 Yeah, and again, it's because of this America bad, Trump, Trump, Trump all the time.
01:27:01.000 That's all we talk about.
01:27:02.000 Wall to wall coverage in Canada is just how Trump is horrible and wants to take over Canada.
01:27:06.000 And yes, he joked about it, the whole like, we're going to take over Canada.
01:27:10.000 That was, again, he helped the liberals like he has no idea.
01:27:13.000 Now, mind you, he said before, and I've heard him speak about it he said, I'd much rather deal with a liberal government than a conservative government because, you know, conservatives are a little bit wiser. 0.68
01:27:22.000 They're not dumb. 0.98
01:27:24.000 I was going to say, can we say retard? 0.99
01:27:27.000 Good. 0.99
01:27:27.000 Yes. 0.99
01:27:27.000 Yeah, of course. 0.99
01:27:28.000 Who knows?
01:27:28.000 Again, I'm from Canada.
01:27:29.000 Canada, yeah. 1.00
01:27:29.000 Yeah, well, so the conservatives are not retarded. 1.00
01:27:32.000 So obviously, as a businessman, Trump would rather deal with a weaker opponent. 1.00
01:27:36.000 Yeah.
01:27:37.000 So if that was the goal, it worked.
01:27:39.000 It definitely worked.
01:27:40.000 But now we're all suffering up north because of that.
01:27:43.000 It's fascinating stuff.
01:27:45.000 I have a soft spot for Quebec. 1.00
01:27:46.000 I remember Tucker Carlson was saying this to, I think it was the Nelk boys when he was on their show or the other way around.
01:27:53.000 Such a weird thing to even hear.
01:27:55.000 I know.
01:27:55.000 Yeah, Tucker and Nelk were.
01:27:59.000 And Tucker said something about Quebec, and the Nelk was like, Yeah, you want to dunkle in Quebec together?
01:28:04.000 And Tucker's like, No, they're the only province that stands up for themselves.
01:28:07.000 And that always was my take. 1.00
01:28:09.000 I'm like, Well, the Anglo Canadians have kind of rolled over, where at least the French Canadians still have a bit of fight left in them. 0.99
01:28:14.000 Well, that's the thing, right? 0.88
01:28:15.000 For the longest time, the rest of Canada hated Quebec because of it, because we were maybe a little reclusive.
01:28:20.000 Maybe we wanted to preserve our culture.
01:28:21.000 And we have some crazy laws, too.
01:28:22.000 Don't get me wrong.
01:28:23.000 French laws in Quebec are wild.
01:28:26.000 They will fine you if your business is not conducted in French.
01:28:29.000 If your signs are not in French, I mean, KFC, the American, like, we should do that here in with English, which blows my mind because America does not have an official language.
01:28:38.000 No, I mean, I thought we did.
01:28:39.000 I thought the Trump administration, the Trump, the you'd have to have Congress pass the law.
01:28:45.000 The Trump administration has made an executive order about English being the uh, look at this.
01:28:50.000 This is in France, it's called KFC, yeah, but here it's called PFK for Poulet Fris, Kentucky.
01:28:56.000 It's literally a transaction, it's crazy.
01:28:59.000 Some of the best shows, all that remains, a handful of the best shows we've ever been.
01:29:02.000 Played up in Quebec.
01:29:03.000 It's an awesome.
01:29:05.000 So, did people call it that before?
01:29:07.000 Oh, no, we all call it PFK.
01:29:09.000 That's how we call it.
01:29:10.000 Well, in French, PFK. 0.99
01:29:11.000 But nonetheless, the thing is now the rest of Canada is looking at Quebec and saying, okay, maybe these crazy French people had a, you know, they're doing it right. 0.98
01:29:19.000 Because again, we've had crazy immigration in Canada to a point where some cities are 82% plus Indian or, you know, Sikh. 0.97
01:29:28.000 And they're looking at Quebec being like, okay, you guys were onto something at one point.
01:29:31.000 And now with that new premier, PSPP, I mean, he was on stage saying that, and this is.
01:29:37.000 Controversial in Canada to say, but that mass migration suppresses wages, mass migration suppresses fertility rates in the domestic population.
01:29:45.000 And in Quebec, we're like, yeah, we like that.
01:29:47.000 Now the rest of Canada is looking to us.
01:29:49.000 And people that were critical of Quebec on the right, because again, everyone loved to dunk on Quebec, they're now looking at that premier being like, yeah, he's the most based politician in the entire country. 1.00
01:30:00.000 Maybe we should be a little bit more like these crazy French people.
01:30:02.000 Yeah, I love it. 1.00
01:30:03.000 I mean, I've been to Quebec and I mean, I'm a wasp, so I would, in theory, have a lot of problems.
01:30:08.000 I found it surprising, A, that the French Canadians are pretty apprehensive when they first meet someone like me because they think I'm an Anglo Canadian.
01:30:16.000 And then when they find out I'm American, they're like delighted.
01:30:18.000 They're like, oh, no way.
01:30:20.000 Like, we love, you know, et cetera, which is, I found funny.
01:30:23.000 But also, I just, I really liked the, because it's, it's this, it's weird because it's European feeling, probably because of the French language and the various infrastructure and that sort of thing.
01:30:34.000 But it's a, the, the layouts of the cities were like American cities.
01:30:38.000 So people were driving pickup trucks, but then they would have like window stickers in French and.
01:30:42.000 For sure.
01:30:43.000 It's like kind of a French country music almost sounding.
01:30:46.000 It's like it was so, it's one of the strange, and I mean this as a compliment. 0.58
01:30:50.000 It's one of the most strange places, I think, in planet Earth because it's just got this weird combination of Europe and America and it all comes together there.
01:30:58.000 And we also have something called Joie de Vivre, which translates to like the pleasure, the joy of life.
01:31:03.000 We love to have a good time.
01:31:04.000 And that's why I'm not surprised when you say you play shows up there and people are super nice.
01:31:08.000 It's like in Montreal, you can go out on your own and you will make friends.
01:31:12.000 Like Americans are super friendly, especially in the South, love it.
01:31:15.000 But people from Quebec are probably some of the friendliest people to party with ever, downright.
01:31:19.000 I believe that.
01:31:20.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:31:21.000 Well, you're talking about how they control their immigration laws, and this manifests with basically requiring French immigrants, which has done an excellent job at keeping immigrants from flooding the province. 0.89
01:31:21.000 It's fascinating. 0.89
01:31:33.000 But yeah, when I went to Montreal, there were Haitians everywhere. 1.00
01:31:35.000 Yeah, that's the thing, right? 1.00
01:31:37.000 Bad for the dogs and cats.
01:31:38.000 Definitely.
01:31:39.000 Although, you know what?
01:31:40.000 For stray dogs and cats, maybe it's good.
01:31:41.000 We don't have animal control.
01:31:42.000 We just made for dogs. 1.00
01:31:43.000 It's just being Haitians. 1.00
01:31:44.000 There you go. 0.98
01:31:45.000 We're keeping it consistent.
01:31:46.000 Why is that out of line?
01:31:46.000 Oh, God.
01:31:48.000 No, it's funny. 0.72
01:31:50.000 But the thing is, yeah, so instead of taking, so Canada's taken massive amounts of people from India. 0.61
01:31:55.000 I mean, at this point, Canada is probably the second country or third, and I'm not even making this up, country with the most Indians after India. 0.80
01:31:55.000 Okay. 0.80
01:32:03.000 Okay.
01:32:04.000 But Quebec, we're still very much, it's a lot of former French colonies, a lot of former African French colonies, a lot of Haitians, some Middle Eastern because they used to be under French rule as well.
01:32:14.000 But it's kept the province right now.
01:32:16.000 I think Quebec is the province with the most still ethnically Canadian in the entire country. 0.97
01:32:22.000 And it makes a difference. 0.90
01:32:23.000 Again, I was in Toronto this week twice, back and forth and back and forth to be on a show and to cover the Quebec election on a news station.
01:32:30.000 And you land in Toronto, and it's a culture shock in your own country.
01:32:34.000 Stunning.
01:32:35.000 Well, it's stunning if you step in. 1.00
01:32:37.000 I stepped in a pile of shit literally the second I walked out. 1.00
01:32:40.000 It's, yeah, you feel like a minority in your own country. 1.00
01:32:43.000 It happens so quick.
01:32:44.000 I was reading about how Toronto, every mayor of Toronto was a member of the Orange Order, which for people that know is like this very, very British Protestant fraternal order, like Knights of Columbus, basically for Protestants.
01:32:57.000 Every member, highly unionist, this is like if you are a proud British subject, you're in the Orange Order.
01:33:03.000 And every mayor of Toronto until the 1970s was a member of the Orange Order.
01:33:07.000 There were British authors in the 50s and 60s and even the 70s saying Toronto is the most British feeling city in the world. 0.90
01:33:14.000 Like the rate of demographic overhaul was rapid.
01:33:18.000 And it's like you lost a war.
01:33:20.000 I mean, that's literally what it felt like in Toronto.
01:33:21.000 I'll never forget I was there two years ago and I'm on the ferry to City Island so I can get the view of the skyline. 0.65
01:33:31.000 And when I was a kid and I'm 25, When I was a kid, the stereotype about Canada was that it was this obnoxiously white place.
01:33:37.000 Like it was comically white, and everyone had these kind of very white people values of like being super polite and kind of meek and whatever.
01:33:44.000 So, you know, I knew things had changed in Canada a bit, but I was stunned going to Toronto.
01:33:49.000 And I'm on this ferry to City Island, and I'm not making this up.
01:33:52.000 I'm not, there's no hyperbole or, you know, putting any spin on it for dramatic sake.
01:33:58.000 About 500 people on this ferry, the only non South Asian person on this ferry.
01:34:04.000 I get over to City Island. 0.99
01:34:05.000 Again, it's almost entirely. 1.00
01:34:07.000 South Asians, they're playing their Bollywood music or whatever. 1.00
01:34:11.000 Everything smells weird. 1.00
01:34:13.000 They're cooking strange things.
01:34:15.000 And I'm just like, what has happened?
01:34:18.000 Because Toronto has the bones of a very beautiful city.
01:34:21.000 I mean, the university there is stunning.
01:34:24.000 Once again, it looks like it was plucked from Britain and dropped in Canada.
01:34:29.000 And I'm just seeing it just get pissed away.
01:34:31.000 And again, in 30, 40 years, you know, it's like you lost.
01:34:35.000 And I'm not saying this is like a demoralization thing.
01:34:38.000 It's just because I think Canadians would agree with me.
01:34:39.000 And this isn't the case in Quebec.
01:34:41.000 Like Montreal still feels, maybe not Montreal, but a lot of the surrounding areas still feel distinctly Canadian, still feel distinctly French Canadian.
01:34:48.000 Toronto, it's gone.
01:34:50.000 It really is.
01:34:51.000 It's not hyperbole to say it feels like you are in some sort of weird middle ground, like maybe like Doha, right?
01:34:57.000 It's like a lot of Indian workers. 1.00
01:34:59.000 It's just so strange. 1.00
01:35:00.000 And there's Canadian nowhere to be seen.
01:35:01.000 I saw one Canadian guy on the subway and he was looking at me like, again, like he was a POW or something.
01:35:09.000 And he looks at me and he's like, what are you doing here?
01:35:12.000 I'm like, what are you doing here?
01:35:13.000 It's just the weirdest.
01:35:14.000 What are we doing here?
01:35:15.000 Yeah, it's the weirdest.
01:35:17.000 I've never seen anything like it.
01:35:18.000 Not even in America, not even like New York or LA.
01:35:21.000 LA.
01:35:21.000 It's like Toronto is just maybe besides Dallas, uniquely bad in this regard.
01:35:26.000 And it's not just Toronto, it's the worst part.
01:35:27.000 You got Surrey in BC, it's just as bad.
01:35:31.000 And now you have, you know, you mentioned the mayors of Toronto.
01:35:33.000 Now the mayor of Toronto is a woman named Olivia Chow. 0.92
01:35:36.000 We like to call her Aurivia Chow because she doesn't speak English. 0.98
01:35:40.000 So, and just listening to her is a meme. 0.98
01:35:42.000 Watching her videos is ridiculous.
01:35:45.000 But we're at a point right now, even in our politics, where you have writings, you know, it's like districts for you guys, writings where it doesn't matter which candidate of which party, conservative, liberal, NDP. 0.95
01:35:55.000 They're all wearing turbans.
01:35:58.000 And we're at a point where, again, because the demographic of that writing is purely South Asian.
01:36:04.000 And it makes you wonder, again, what is Canada anymore?
01:36:07.000 And it does feel like an invasion.
01:36:09.000 And people now are starting to push back. 0.90
01:36:11.000 So immigration used to be a.
01:36:14.000 It was never contentious in Canada.
01:36:15.000 We used to be super pro immigration.
01:36:18.000 Now it's still not contentious. 0.92
01:36:19.000 We're super against immigration.
01:36:21.000 But we don't have like a Donald Trump, a politician in Canada who's willing to stand up and to end it.
01:36:28.000 Except for this premier right here.
01:36:29.000 And we even have something crazy in Canada.
01:36:31.000 It's called the Century Initiative.
01:36:32.000 And it's a bunch of like elitist Canadian, you know?
01:36:35.000 What they want to do is bring Canada to 100 million people by the year 2100.
01:36:41.000 To give you an idea, we're at 40 million.
01:36:43.000 So that's more than doubling the population.
01:36:46.000 It's impossible.
01:36:47.000 We went from 35 million to 40 ish million in the span of two decades.
01:36:53.000 And everything collapsed.
01:36:54.000 Our infrastructure collapsed.
01:36:55.000 Our job market collapsed.
01:36:56.000 I mean, just this week, we announced we lost another 68,000 jobs.
01:37:01.000 To put this in perspective for America, because 6,000, 8,000 jobs, who cares?
01:37:04.000 It's like if America lost over half a million jobs in one month.
01:37:07.000 In one month.
01:37:08.000 So our unemployment rate in Canada is at 6.5%.
01:37:12.000 It's 4.2% in America.
01:37:14.000 Right.
01:37:14.000 So you guys are like, we're 40%, 43% higher than American unemployment rate.
01:37:19.000 Well, because I remember if you go and you look at what John Kerry ran on, what Al Gore ran on, what especially Obama ran on, they're always making appeals to Canada.
01:37:30.000 They're saying, Canada does this, Canada does that exceptionally well.
01:37:33.000 And that would have had a lot of salience with Americans at the time.
01:37:35.000 They'd be like, yeah, Canada does do that well.
01:37:37.000 And then after Obama, 2008, Democrats stopped doing that.
01:37:40.000 Like Biden, I bet you could go through and they didn't once appeal to Canada as some sort of model for some sort of social program.
01:37:46.000 It just completely.
01:37:47.000 Except for Sanders, who keeps talking about the single pair system.
01:37:50.000 Yeah.
01:37:51.000 Yeah.
01:37:51.000 Even then, it's like they'll just say, oh, we could have one like, I don't know, Australia or Sweden.
01:37:55.000 Yeah.
01:37:55.000 We'll use Sweden.
01:37:56.000 Yeah.
01:37:56.000 Yeah.
01:37:57.000 Canada just stopped being the stand in for perfect utopian society.
01:38:00.000 Now we like try to ignore it.
01:38:01.000 I think, well, people on the left try to ignore it.
01:38:04.000 And it's so shocking.
01:38:06.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:38:07.000 The South Asian thing in particular, for whatever reason, they like move to a country. 1.00
01:38:11.000 Well, it's not for whatever reason, they're highly nepotistic. 1.00
01:38:13.000 They move to a country and they immediately, their first instinct is, I need to just run for office. 0.98
01:38:17.000 Like, we have this like Sri Thanadar guy.
01:38:20.000 I don't know if he won his seat or not, if he's still in Congress. 0.99
01:38:23.000 He's like the goofiest Sri Tandiri. 1.00
01:38:25.000 Yeah, goofiest guy I've ever seen, like a cartoon character. 1.00
01:38:29.000 And he's like a total fob. 0.62
01:38:30.000 Like, he got off the boat yesterday.
01:38:33.000 And it's like, what is he?
01:38:34.000 He doesn't speak any English.
01:38:36.000 And I'm like, what is going on?
01:38:37.000 Am I being pranked?
01:38:38.000 I thought it was like an SNL skit.
01:38:41.000 But these people, they show up and their first instinct is run for office as if their country is something to replicate. 0.94
01:38:46.000 At least when the British came to India, it's like, hey, we're going to make you more like Britain. 0.99
01:38:50.000 That's at the time a great thing. 1.00
01:38:51.000 We'll improve things. 1.00
01:38:52.000 But coming from India, it's like, no, actually, you need to shut up and watch how we do things and enjoy. 1.00
01:38:52.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:38:59.000 The second thing they do is they run for office.
01:39:01.000 The first thing is they bring all their cousins, their grandparents, and everything else.
01:39:03.000 That's number one.
01:39:05.000 But I mean, again, in Canada right now, it's a cautionary tale. 0.91
01:39:09.000 Immigration is not bad when it's done properly, when it's done to augment. 0.88
01:39:12.000 Canada actually used to have.
01:39:13.000 The envy of the world for the immigration system because we use a point based system.
01:39:16.000 It was purely merit based. 0.73
01:39:18.000 You needed to have education, income, experience, be married.
01:39:22.000 It all counted for a point into getting you into the door.
01:39:26.000 The Liberal Party, when it came into power in 2015, they did away with all of this.
01:39:30.000 And then our system, Canada used to be a high trust society.
01:39:34.000 So a lot of our institutions and our systems are put in place for people that are high trust.
01:39:39.000 Sadly, some cultures are not based on high trust societies.
01:39:42.000 So we are rife with scams.
01:39:46.000 They are scamming the system. 1.00
01:39:47.000 We used to have, and we still do, we call them diploma mills. 1.00
01:39:51.000 So, you could come to Canada on a student visa.
01:39:54.000 So, what started happening?
01:39:55.000 A bunch of South Asians started opening colleges, eight colleges. 0.95
01:40:00.000 And instead of teaching people there, they would only print out those kind of transcripts, you know, letters of offer for a program. 0.96
01:40:09.000 And they would use that to get visas.
01:40:12.000 And then they started importing them.
01:40:13.000 And it became a racket where people would be making money on basically offering visas.
01:40:18.000 Same thing with companies.
01:40:20.000 Tim Horns.
01:40:21.000 It's the most Canadian thing we used to be.
01:40:23.000 It was sold to Brazilians.
01:40:25.000 But Tim Horns used to be the icon of Canada.
01:40:28.000 Now, Tim Horns, we call it Jeet Hortons for very obvious reasons. 0.95
01:40:33.000 They started using what we call TFWs, temporary foreign workers.
01:40:36.000 And to do that, you need an LMIA, a labor market impact assessment.
01:40:39.000 You have to show that you've tried to hire domestically and you just couldn't.
01:40:44.000 Most Tim Horns, you go on the government website for LMIAs and it's just Tim Horns, Tim Horns, Tim Horns.
01:40:49.000 You're telling me you can't find a guy in school, a student.
01:40:52.000 Like a donut in a microwave.
01:40:53.000 I mean, I used to work at Timmy's when I was 16.
01:40:56.000 That was my summer job. 0.98
01:40:58.000 So they rather import people from those countries. 0.83
01:41:01.000 And the reason why is because they put them up 20 a piece in a house. 0.93
01:41:05.000 They work slave wages. 0.94
01:41:08.000 They don't know any better because they don't have the cultural and historical ties to the country.
01:41:11.000 They don't necessarily understand what's normal and what's not normal.
01:41:14.000 And it's being called now modern day slavery.
01:41:17.000 That's basically what it is. 1.00
01:41:18.000 But who's the, not only are they suffering, these immigrants, but on top of that, the real losers in this are the Canadians. 1.00
01:41:27.000 The students, the low skilled workers, they can't find jobs. 1.00
01:41:32.000 Our youth unemployment rate, that's anything under 24, stands at upwards of 14%, which is again, one of the highest numbers we've ever seen.
01:41:40.000 So people are suffering.
01:41:41.000 Whereby, again, back in the days, summer jobs, you'd go, you'd hand out your CV, your resume to a few places, you'd find a job.
01:41:47.000 Now, they had a Costco a couple weeks ago open up a couple positions, and there was a video that popped up.
01:41:54.000 There was a line of over a thousand people.
01:41:57.000 For a handful of Costco positions.
01:42:00.000 Yeah, this is a Tim Hortons and it says hundreds of Indian students lined up.
01:42:05.000 That's, that's, and this is not a joke.
01:42:07.000 This is not like made up.
01:42:08.000 That's not AI.
01:42:09.000 This was one of the 20 pictures I could have gone with just on recursory search. 0.98
01:42:12.000 And people just don't understand, unless you're Canadian, of course.
01:42:15.000 In Canada, we know that reality.
01:42:16.000 And again, we're super anti mass migration now. 1.00
01:42:19.000 We still want the proper people to come in. 1.00
01:42:21.000 We still think that they can benefit a country.
01:42:23.000 But we want to end this lunacy.
01:42:27.000 But the government doesn't want to.
01:42:28.000 They are.
01:42:29.000 By indirectly importing voters, because whenever they get the right to vote, they tend to vote liberal, of course.
01:42:35.000 And it's making a docile population.
01:42:38.000 And a lot of our so Canada's economy is based on oligopolies.
01:42:41.000 We have like three telecoms, three grocery stores, three media companies.
01:42:41.000 Okay.
01:42:46.000 It's all oligopolies.
01:42:48.000 So these guys are plugged in with the government and power.
01:42:50.000 They're buddy, buddy, they're chummy, chummy.
01:42:52.000 So obviously they lobby the government to continue these insane migration policies because it suppresses wages.
01:42:58.000 Mm hmm. 0.95
01:42:59.000 So again, it's the Canadian, it's the old stock Canadian that's losing.
01:43:02.000 Well, and you know, the red pill here, and this is what people don't want to accept if we brought in, if Canada brought in, I don't know, a million Englishmen, or maybe even a million Frenchmen, probably wouldn't be having these problems.
01:43:14.000 I mean, there'd be some economic problems getting these people homes or whatever, but you wouldn't have these cultural clashes, and Toronto wouldn't feel foreign.
01:43:21.000 If anything, Toronto would start to feel a bit more Canadian again.
01:43:24.000 Absolutely.
01:43:25.000 You know, when you look at, and I mean, I know you're French Canadians, but you have a slightly different perspective on this.
01:43:29.000 But from my perspective, especially places like Ontario, really is meant to be this kind of outpost of the British Empire in many ways.
01:43:35.000 So the further away you get from that sort of Anglo Protestant, French Canadian core, the less Canadian it feels.
01:43:42.000 And people have a really tough time accepting this because, you know, 70, 80 years of post-Canadianism.
01:43:47.000 Or liberal consensus, we're supposed to believe everyone's a blank slate.
01:43:51.000 I'm sorry, someone from Yorkshire is going to have a slightly easier time assimilating into Toronto. 0.96
01:43:56.000 Actually, they probably just pick up right where they left off versus someone from India. 0.99
01:44:00.000 And it's like the sooner people can accept that, especially if you're on the right, you have no excuse. 1.00
01:44:04.000 You should have already accepted that by now.
01:44:06.000 But the sooner people on the left even can accept that people are different based off of where they come from, the sooner we can fix these problems.
01:44:13.000 And you mentioned earlier Denmark.
01:44:15.000 They did this fascinating study.
01:44:17.000 They looked at immigrants from different backgrounds. 0.98
01:44:20.000 And how much it costs society to import, not only import these immigrants, but how much they would cost society over their lifetime. 0.50
01:44:28.000 So they took the average Danish person as a benchmark, and that person would contribute more to society than they took. 0.67
01:44:34.000 So they would, through taxes and productivity, benefit Danish society.
01:44:39.000 Then they looked at other Europeans, like Romanians, and they contributed a little bit less, but it was still positive. 0.90
01:44:43.000 It was still a net gain for society. 0.92
01:44:45.000 But then they started looking at other cultures, other people from other areas. 0.99
01:44:49.000 And whether it's Afghanistan, Iraq, the worst offender. 1.00
01:44:53.000 Was from Somalia. 1.00
01:44:55.000 Someone from Somalia cost Denmark 27,000 euros per year to support throughout their lifetime. 1.00
01:45:03.000 It doesn't get better. 1.00
01:45:04.000 They don't integrate, they don't start producing a net value for society.
01:45:08.000 They're just a drain for their entire life on society.
01:45:12.000 And that's another angle people don't realize. 0.92
01:45:15.000 I mean, ultimately, again, immigration is supposed to benefit your country.
01:45:17.000 It's not a right, it's a privilege to go to a different country.
01:45:20.000 Certainly not a charity, which is definitely not.
01:45:22.000 It's what it's been.
01:45:24.000 Well, I'm glad that I'm glad Quebec has put their foot down on this.
01:45:26.000 Someone's got to do it.
01:45:27.000 Trump's obviously been making some massive strides on this.
01:45:31.000 I mean, to the point where his own base is like, we want more.
01:45:34.000 I mean, that's like a really healthy thing, actually.
01:45:36.000 You're starting to see across Europe people waking up on this.
01:45:40.000 But yeah, it unfortunately feels like Canada and Australia, really the other Anglosphere countries, New Zealand, the hour's late. 0.80
01:45:45.000 So it's good to see Quebec is showing the Anglos how it's done here.
01:45:48.000 Well, with that, we got to get to some of our super chats here. 1.00
01:45:51.000 They've been rolling in on Rumble.
01:45:52.000 I've been looking at YouTube and there hasn't been as much on Rumble.
01:45:54.000 It's like Super Chat City.
01:45:56.000 Shane H. Wilder says, Boys, cast IRL.
01:46:00.000 Boys, Brett, an honorary Frostback on air with a legit Frostback.
01:46:06.000 Welcome back, Phil.
01:46:07.000 The new album, Better Make My Ears Bleed.
01:46:11.000 We wrote a chorus and I sent it to our guitar player and he showed his wife and she cried.
01:46:19.000 So I think we're on the right track.
01:46:20.000 That's a great one.
01:46:21.000 That's a legitimate story, too.
01:46:23.000 There's a song that we were working on and we were pretty pumped and we sent it to our guitar player and he's like, That's sick.
01:46:29.000 He's like, I showed my wife.
01:46:31.000 I'm like, yes, that's a winner.
01:46:31.000 She cried.
01:46:34.000 Speaking of honorary, Elliot, it looks like he's changed sides here.
01:46:37.000 There you go.
01:46:38.000 I'm joining.
01:46:39.000 I'm swayed by the Americans at this table.
01:46:39.000 Oh, boy.
01:46:41.000 Can you see it on camera?
01:46:42.000 What is this?
01:46:43.000 The hat back there.
01:46:43.000 Oh, yeah.
01:46:44.000 There you go.
01:46:45.000 This is really getting wacky.
01:46:46.000 I mean, you're going to have some trouble at the airport.
01:46:48.000 I'm going to CBSA, which is like our CBP.
01:46:48.000 For sure.
01:46:51.000 They're going to be questioning me.
01:46:52.000 That's it.
01:46:53.000 They're turning me back around.
01:46:54.000 That's offensive to our country.
01:46:55.000 That's against Canadian values.
01:46:59.000 What do we got here?
01:47:00.000 From terrible1382.
01:47:02.000 That's quite the username.
01:47:03.000 Brett.
01:47:05.000 Great.
01:47:05.000 That's what he put the three T's there.
01:47:06.000 Three T's.
01:47:07.000 A great job on not being a fat POS, but does thou even hoist?
01:47:12.000 Phil, take him to the gym post haste.
01:47:14.000 We got like a middle age, someone from the middle ages and stuff.
01:47:18.000 Medieval, yeah.
01:47:19.000 We've talked about it. 0.91
01:47:20.000 Fascinating.
01:47:21.000 Bill Dozer 74 says, Phil said, We don't have magic soil.
01:47:24.000 Excuse me, sir. 0.95
01:47:25.000 Have you not spoken to the mountain Jews? 1.00
01:47:28.000 They believe in Missouri magic. 1.00
01:47:30.000 I love the term mountain Jews. 0.95
01:47:33.000 That is the term for the Mormons, by the way. 0.99
01:47:35.000 If you don't know, mountain Jews. 0.99
01:47:38.000 From St. Miles, if you look at the inside recording of the terminal that was hit by the Houthis, most of the people there were dressed to go on Hajj. 1.00
01:47:46.000 They bombed Muslims on pilgrimages.
01:47:47.000 Yeah, the Houthis don't really care. 0.98
01:47:50.000 They're just getting wacky and wild. 0.99
01:47:52.000 Rude.
01:47:53.000 They just want to win.
01:47:54.000 They're like, all right, you're rotating around the cube or whatever.
01:47:57.000 You're not safe.
01:47:59.000 Andre Ticulescu, the very Romanian name, wants to talk about Iranian sleeper cells.
01:48:06.000 Look at the Toronto police officer who got busted trying to have suppressors mailed into Canada.
01:48:10.000 Is this true?
01:48:11.000 Yeah.
01:48:12.000 Jesus.
01:48:14.000 Don't mail them.
01:48:15.000 The good thing is that police officer, again, look at his last name and you'll realize.
01:48:19.000 Where's the Legion stands?
01:48:20.000 Doesn't sound too Anglo or French, huh?
01:48:24.000 Igor Gargyle of Kazan says FPV drones would destroy the U.S. population, whether that be the Pentagon's drones or drones from China, Russia, et cetera. 0.97
01:48:32.000 Your guns are irrelevant, silly Philly. 0.97
01:48:35.000 Whoa. 1.00
01:48:36.000 Gee.
01:48:36.000 I mean, look, I said like an actual invasion by people.
01:48:42.000 So, you're having different conversations.
01:48:42.000 Yeah.
01:48:45.000 Yeah.
01:48:46.000 Evan for us says the Trump 2.0 2A moves and stances alone may dictate he needs to win the midterms.
01:48:53.000 LOL.
01:48:55.000 I guess he's saying that for 2A purposes alone, it's definitely worth reinforcing Trump's conditional government.
01:49:00.000 Yeah, look, if you want to see the border secure, then you have to vote for Republicans, right?
01:49:08.000 If you want to retain your Second Amendment rights, you have to vote for Republicans.
01:49:15.000 If you want to see any more of the policies that Donald Trump has put forward, you have to vote for Republicans.
01:49:23.000 If you want to see any kind of Any kind of legislation or anything out of the administration, you have to vote for Republicans because if Democrats take control of the House, it's going to be investigation, impeachment.
01:49:39.000 They're going to be calling it, you know, they're going to do everything they can to stymie the Trump, you know, the Trump agenda.
01:49:43.000 So, I mean, for me personally, it was never a question.
01:49:47.000 And it's not because of Donald Trump.
01:49:48.000 It's because I'm never going to vote for Democrats the way they are.
01:49:51.000 Like, I'm not going to vote for Democrats.
01:49:55.000 Like, they have not, they've indicated to me. That they do not hold the values that I hold.
01:50:03.000 It's that clear.
01:50:05.000 And so, whether it be Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, JD Vance, the Democratic Party would have to shift massively for me to be like, well, maybe I'll vote for a Democrat.
01:50:17.000 Their values are not the same as mine.
01:50:19.000 So, get out and vote.
01:50:21.000 I concur.
01:50:23.000 Dragon4536 says, I had to live through two years of HE double hockey sticks when my mother was diagnosed and passed from lung cancer.
01:50:33.000 But never did I waver in my belief that anyone but the Lord could bring her peace from that pain.
01:50:40.000 That is very salient.
01:50:42.000 That's absolutely, I share that belief as well.
01:50:47.000 Yeah, I mean, it's difficult to imagine any true relief from that can come outside of obviously the Lord.
01:50:54.000 I would second that.
01:50:55.000 I mean, my father passed away in 2000.
01:50:59.000 And I mean, he died of cancer.
01:51:02.000 Mm hmm.
01:51:03.000 And it was pretty rough at the end, you know.
01:51:06.000 He was definitely suffering.
01:51:10.000 And unfortunately, something like that, you know, there's no around, it's only through.
01:51:16.000 Yeah.
01:51:16.000 So.
01:51:16.000 You know?
01:51:18.000 Yeah, I agree.
01:51:20.000 Only the truth, we're going to YouTube, says, learn your history.
01:51:23.000 That's always exciting.
01:51:24.000 Yeah, there you go.
01:51:26.000 Can't wait to hear this one.
01:51:27.000 Opens up.
01:51:28.000 He's probably right because these people have access to Wikipedia.
01:51:31.000 So if you say something that you think is correct, they look it up.
01:51:34.000 He's not going to be nice about it, though.
01:51:37.000 You're off like two months in a date.
01:51:39.000 Yeah.
01:51:40.000 A pregnant woman and five kids were the balloon victims in Oregon. 0.95
01:51:43.000 Oh, okay.
01:51:44.000 A crashed zero was found in Alaska after a failed Dutch Harbor raid.
01:51:44.000 Okay.
01:51:49.000 Dutch Harbor was the Aleutians.
01:51:51.000 Yeah, so off a few casualties there.
01:51:54.000 Thank you for the update.
01:51:56.000 I appreciate that.
01:51:58.000 Rooster Sauce 69.
01:52:00.000 This is coming in in Canadian dollars.
01:52:01.000 So this is an authentic Canadian here.
01:52:03.000 It's worth nothing. 1.00
01:52:05.000 Sorry, guys.
01:52:07.000 Thanks for the Monopoly money. 0.99
01:52:09.000 If you want to know more about the horrors of MADE, Please look up Kelsey Sharon. 1.00
01:52:14.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:52:15.000 She's one of the most vocal Canadians. 1.00
01:52:17.000 She's amazing.
01:52:17.000 She's great.
01:52:18.000 That's her entire platform.
01:52:20.000 If you guys want to have her on, she'll definitely come. 0.90
01:52:20.000 Highly recommend. 0.90
01:52:23.000 She's amazing.
01:52:23.000 Oh, Joel.
01:52:23.000 This has been fascinating with the maid.
01:52:25.000 We have to get her on.
01:52:25.000 Lisa, if you're watching, let's get going.
01:52:28.000 That'd be awesome.
01:52:29.000 She's probably.
01:52:29.000 She's probably asleep.
01:52:30.000 Yeah, she's probably living her life. 0.57
01:52:32.000 She works probably the hardest out of anyone at this company.
01:52:35.000 She's the best. 0.97
01:52:36.000 Shout out, Lisa.
01:52:38.000 Wyatt Caldenberg says old people thinking it was a weekly housemaid.
01:52:43.000 That one is on offer at all. 0.97
01:52:45.000 Well, maid, yeah, I could probably use a cleaner. 0.78
01:52:47.000 The government's paying for that?
01:52:49.000 It's amazing.
01:52:50.000 It's like backing off.
01:52:50.000 If we had real comedy these days, somebody would be making that scary.
01:52:54.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:52:55.000 What maid?
01:52:56.000 Oh, my house isn't any cleaner and my dad.
01:52:58.000 It's like they open the door thinking a maid's going to be there.
01:53:01.000 It's just a guy with an axe.
01:53:02.000 Yeah.
01:53:04.000 It's Michael Myers with this big steak knife.
01:53:08.000 It's so true.
01:53:09.000 Yeah, well, we're out of super chats here. 0.95
01:53:12.000 We got to pick back up on the cannon because when's the next time we're going to have a Canadian? 0.99
01:53:15.000 I don't know. 1.00
01:53:16.000 We might try to get.
01:53:17.000 Maybe JJ McCullough on because JJ McCullough made this interesting point.
01:53:19.000 He's the one that put this on my radar, and he said it at the top of the show is that Canadians in the 21st century identify themselves solely in opposition to the United States.
01:53:30.000 And we've talked about this before frustration with the Republican Party.
01:53:34.000 The inability to articulate what you're in favor of will always destroy you.
01:53:37.000 If you're only defined in what you're against, you can only last so long.
01:53:41.000 And I think that's part of the reason why you're seeing, not that America doesn't have these problems, it's just Canada has these problems on steroids.
01:53:47.000 It's not me boasting like, oh, we figured it all out.
01:53:49.000 No.
01:53:50.000 Look at Dallas.
01:53:51.000 Dallas is almost as bad as Toronto in a lot of ways, certainly a lot of the suburbs there.
01:53:55.000 It's just to say Canada is in a further stage of this.
01:53:59.000 But yeah, I think part of it is because Canadians don't know what they're for, what actually does define the Canadian.
01:54:06.000 I mean, as you see it, I guess painting with a broad brush here, obviously Anglos and French Canadians, what is a Canadian?
01:54:14.000 That's a good question.
01:54:15.000 I bring the Quebec aspect.
01:54:16.000 I think Quebec has culture.
01:54:18.000 Out of all places in Canada, we have a distinct culture, language, linguistically, historically.
01:54:24.000 Food, we're people that's bound together.
01:54:29.000 Historic, look, if I look at Canada, it's first of all, there's the, you got to look at the descent, you got to look at the ethnicity, like you're not.
01:54:37.000 It comes from Ireland, England, France, and Scotland.
01:54:42.000 Scotland, there you go.
01:54:44.000 So I was going through the aisles. 1.00
01:54:46.000 Those are the old stock Canadians. 0.99
01:54:47.000 And then after that, you can tie in with immigration a lot of Europeans, lots of Italians, Polish, but it's Christian based, European based. 0.65
01:54:58.000 Yeah.
01:54:59.000 And that's what we should go back towards.
01:55:01.000 We used to be known as being very polite.
01:55:03.000 That's fine.
01:55:04.000 But we used to also be known to, you know, our first prime minister was a staunch nationalist.
01:55:10.000 He, you know, he's the father of confederation.
01:55:13.000 And he was very much anti immigration.
01:55:15.000 Yeah.
01:55:16.000 So we have to go back to that.
01:55:18.000 We've been tearing down our statues.
01:55:20.000 We've been bending over for the First Nations and doing land acknowledgements because, you know, all the land has been stolen.
01:55:27.000 We have to go back to our history and be proud of it.
01:55:29.000 That's number one, you know.
01:55:31.000 Point where before every hockey game, you have to do a land acknowledgement.
01:55:35.000 We're on the unceded territory of whatever.
01:55:38.000 We have to get away from this continuously just trying to pander and just go back to being, yeah, we're Canadians.
01:55:45.000 We created one of the greatest nations at the time.
01:55:47.000 We've been losing it.
01:55:49.000 There's nothing to be ashamed of.
01:55:51.000 And we've elevated the quality of life of so many other people.
01:55:53.000 There you go.
01:55:54.000 That's the former.
01:55:55.000 I think you guys should go back to this.
01:55:57.000 Again, as a French Canadian, as I understand it, a big reason you guys went away from this is a lot of the French Canadians weren't too happy.
01:56:03.000 With a big giant Union Jack on there.
01:56:05.000 As I understand it, this new Quebec minister wants to get rid of the monarchy.
01:56:08.000 Absolutely.
01:56:09.000 Well, that's the interesting thing, right?
01:56:10.000 So, when you enter Parliament, so in Quebec, it's called the National Assembly.
01:56:14.000 You know, we're maybe taking a step, we're a little too early there.
01:56:17.000 We're not yet a nation, but we renamed it the National Assembly.
01:56:21.000 So, you're supposed to take an oath to the king before you take your seat.
01:56:26.000 And he said, and on top of that, you're supposed to have the lieutenant governor.
01:56:29.000 We call her a lieutenant governor, but you guys would say the lieutenant governor, who's the king's representative.
01:56:35.000 They represent the crown.
01:56:36.000 They're the ones opening parliament.
01:56:37.000 They're the ones doing a speech from the throne, setting out the agenda of the government, of the session.
01:56:44.000 And he flat out said, I'm telling her not to come.
01:56:47.000 She's not welcome.
01:56:48.000 And as for the oath of office, we're going to swear allegiance to the people of Quebec.
01:56:53.000 We're not swearing allegiance to the crown.
01:56:55.000 Now, there is precedent because the former government passed a law abolishing the need to swear allegiance to the crown.
01:57:02.000 And it was not challenged.
01:57:03.000 Is it unconstitutional?
01:57:04.000 Yes, completely.
01:57:06.000 Again, we're Canadian.
01:57:06.000 Nobody challenged it.
01:57:07.000 We're not going to make a fuss.
01:57:10.000 So that was in 2022.
01:57:11.000 It hasn't been challenged.
01:57:13.000 So, right now, him telling, saying, you know, the left-hand governor is not coming, probably going to pass as well.
01:57:18.000 And then he went further saying, we're going to cut the entire budget of her office.
01:57:22.000 So, I mean, I'm for it.
01:57:23.000 I mean, what is the crown anymore in Canada?
01:57:25.000 Why do we need to have a king?
01:57:28.000 To use JJ McCullough's argument again, I mean, he says the primary reason is just to sort of signal that we're not American. 0.99
01:57:33.000 Yeah, well, it's dumb. 0.62
01:57:34.000 Because, you know, you go around the world, you go to Australia, certainly Britain, New Zealand, you know, being a monarchist is very right-wing, it's very conservative. 0.98
01:57:34.000 Do you see left? 0.98
01:57:42.000 And then in Canada, it's kind of a mixed bag.
01:57:45.000 I mean, Trudeau was probably more pro crown than anyone.
01:57:48.000 I guess it was just a signal that he wasn't American.
01:57:50.000 Yeah, at that point.
01:57:51.000 And even then, when we started the trade war with the US, what's the first thing we did?
01:57:55.000 We actually asked the king, Charles, to come open parliament for us.
01:58:00.000 Like he came from England, which was the first time he's ever been in Canada, by the way.
01:58:04.000 So it was a message, you know, we're not bending over for America. 1.00
01:58:07.000 Again, it's posturing, it's stupid, and it's devoid of any value. 1.00
01:58:11.000 I like the old flag. 0.99
01:58:12.000 Now, again, being from Quebec, we have our own flag, and we're very proud of it, and we fly it everywhere.
01:58:16.000 I like this one.
01:58:17.000 Well, and to your point, look, you got the three lines of England, the dragon of Scotland, the flowers, or the what do you call it in French?
01:58:25.000 Fleur de Lis.
01:58:26.000 The Lis.
01:58:28.000 The Lis. 0.85
01:58:29.000 Of a. 0.64
01:58:32.000 You went the whole show without making a joke, like a French frog joke.
01:58:34.000 This is good, man.
01:58:35.000 It's been boiling in.
01:58:37.000 It needs to come out.
01:58:38.000 57.
01:58:39.000 My wasp bag.
01:58:40.000 You had to.
01:58:41.000 Keep it contained.
01:58:42.000 Frog eat.
01:58:43.000 I'm just kidding. 1.00
01:58:45.000 We got the beautiful.
01:58:46.000 I love the French, by the way.
01:58:47.000 No one loves the French more than me.
01:58:49.000 The beautiful.
01:58:52.000 And then you got the Irish harp.
01:58:54.000 And then, you know, kind of united all together.
01:58:56.000 I mean, this is basically them saying these are the four that are Canadians.
01:58:59.000 And if you're outside of that, it's up to us to determine if you're Canadian or not.
01:59:03.000 And that's what that flag says.
01:59:04.000 And then it says, by the way, this is where we kind of came out of.
01:59:07.000 The new flag, it's just like kind of libtard post war, doesn't mean anything. 0.92
01:59:13.000 All the men who died in the world wars, they didn't even have a conception of that flag. 1.00
01:59:17.000 It's just like the epitome of we're moving into the blank slate.
01:59:21.000 What it means to be Canadian, I don't know, we're coming up with it.
01:59:23.000 It's on the fly.
01:59:24.000 Yeah, it has no culture, no history.
01:59:26.000 And on top of that, we push even further.
01:59:27.000 So we redesigned our passport.
01:59:29.000 And back in the day, every page had Vimy Ridge, which was a.
01:59:33.000 You know, a battle that was pure, very much Canadian that we won in Europe.
01:59:38.000 Terry Fox, that was an icon of Canada, they removed everything.
01:59:43.000 Now it's just drawings that mean nothing.
01:59:46.000 We've erased our history and our culture. 1.00
01:59:49.000 And that's the problem again with mass migration. 0.99
01:59:51.000 It leads to the collapse of the culture and the erosion of social cohesion.
01:59:56.000 It's tragic stuff.
01:59:57.000 It's a tailspin.
01:59:59.000 I think the Quebecois could probably pull out, which I think would be great, at least salvage something.
02:00:03.000 And we'll see what the Western provinces decide.
02:00:05.000 But with that, We got to wind this show down.
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02:01:50.000 And he couldn't super chat because obviously they're a few hours ahead over in Old Blighty.
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02:02:27.000 Oh, yeah, the left lanes for crime.
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02:02:31.000 God bless Canada and free Quebec.
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02:05:48.000 And we're back.
02:05:50.000 A lot of proprietary discussions that had to cease as soon as we went live.
02:05:54.000 That's right.
02:05:55.000 Nothing, you'd be so bored.
02:05:56.000 It was mainly just tax related.
02:05:59.000 With that, Rinch jumps straight into our callers.
02:06:02.000 I think that's what I think.
02:06:03.000 That's what I think.
02:06:04.000 The people want to talk to Elliot, they want to hear us.
02:06:06.000 And you don't want to talk about Shane Gillis because it's boring. 0.84
02:06:09.000 Shane Gillis is pretty fucking funny, though. 0.94
02:06:11.000 It was a funny joke. 1.00
02:06:12.000 Liptards got mad. 1.00
02:06:13.000 It wasn't funny. 1.00
02:06:15.000 I'm saying it wasn't funny.
02:06:15.000 I'm not saying it was offensive.
02:06:16.000 Like, no culture war humorous.
02:06:18.000 Do you have a take on it, Elliot?
02:06:19.000 I mean, not at all, man.
02:06:20.000 Honestly.
02:06:20.000 Funny joke.
02:06:21.000 Lipdards, I think that the big takeaway is the idea that woke went anywhere, it didn't go anywhere. 1.00
02:06:30.000 All these people that are complaining about what Shane Gillis said I mean, the guy sells out Madison Square Garden or whatever, like, he was a record, I think.
02:06:38.000 So, obviously, the guy's got a fan base, he's funny. 0.99
02:06:41.000 And there was some cuck on fucking let's just watch the cuck ex that was just like, oh, he can't say that, and he's so mean. 0.99
02:06:49.000 The Dan Levy clip, oh, this guy from shorts to the gym does not make them whores. 1.00
02:06:57.000 Yes, it does. 1.00
02:06:57.000 It actually does. 1.00
02:06:58.000 The men, stupid idiot, calling them whores, misogynists. 1.00
02:07:02.000 Oh. 1.00
02:07:03.000 There's a difference there.
02:07:05.000 Yeah.
02:07:06.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98
02:07:07.000 By the way, I've seen more men's nipples at the gym than I've ever seen women. 1.00
02:07:11.000 I bet you don't fucking lie. 1.00
02:07:12.000 Because he's looking for men's nipples. 1.00
02:07:14.000 I don't doubt it one bit. 0.99
02:07:15.000 But I'm speechless.
02:07:19.000 Oh, are you?
02:07:20.000 Something like that can exist.
02:07:22.000 A lot of speech for someone that's speechless.
02:07:24.000 Live national television.
02:07:25.000 No.
02:07:26.000 To be perfectly honest, more men need to be standing up in opposition to it. 1.00
02:07:29.000 No, shut the fuck up. 0.99
02:07:31.000 It's totally reading off like notes, too. 1.00
02:07:33.000 That's the best part.
02:07:34.000 It's like looking off the screen.
02:07:37.000 No.
02:07:39.000 As opposed to a crime. 1.00
02:07:42.000 It's so fucking stupid. 1.00
02:07:44.000 Men need to be defending women. 1.00
02:07:47.000 This is not a women's issue.
02:07:49.000 Yeah, Daniel Penny tried. 1.00
02:07:49.000 No. 1.00
02:07:51.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00
02:07:52.000 Well, also, people in the chat. 1.00
02:07:56.000 The more that other men see them as objects and treat them as objects. 0.99
02:08:00.000 No, only Pakistanis do that. 1.00
02:08:02.000 I also have a question.
02:08:03.000 I was asking the chat today on the show.
02:08:06.000 I said, when does objectification begin?
02:08:09.000 Does the objectification begin?
02:08:10.000 It's like, you know, if a tree falls in the forest, as they say, like the idea is like, okay, she goes to the gym alone.
02:08:20.000 There's nobody there.
02:08:21.000 Is that objectifying? 1.00
02:08:22.000 A lot of people would say, yes, she's objectifying herself. 0.98
02:08:26.000 Well, someone in the live chat for the noon show made an excellent point today.
02:08:30.000 They said, Really, the debate should be over what is admiration versus leering.
02:08:36.000 And I think that's fundamentally what's going on.
02:08:38.000 It's kind of the same problem we had where it was the IOC or someone issued broadcasting requirements where they can't show the women from lower than the waist.
02:08:46.000 And it's like most people watching that aren't going to be like, oh, admiring. 0.98
02:08:50.000 That's a pretty woman. 1.00
02:08:51.000 Same thing. 1.00
02:08:52.000 Like when you're on a flight, and I went off like 30 minutes about this today.
02:08:56.000 Like all the flight attendants, not all, there's probably some watching. 0.99
02:08:59.000 I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the other 99%, are gay guys or like chopped women. 1.00
02:09:04.000 Because I took a flight, I took an Emirates Airlines flight. 1.00
02:09:04.000 What happened? 1.00
02:09:08.000 It was all like attractive women, and I don't want them. 1.00
02:09:11.000 It's not like an attraction thing, it's just like an easy on the eyes. 0.99
02:09:15.000 That's where the phrase easy on the eyes came from because it's like this is pleasant.
02:09:19.000 This is making my life better that these people look good.
02:09:23.000 It's not leering, it's not like sexual.
02:09:25.000 It's just like an admiration of beauty. 0.97
02:09:27.000 Like, same thing, I like a good painting, I'm not gonna jerk off to it.
02:09:31.000 This is something, this is like a discussion we were having with like the female track runners where like they get mad because the girls wear like the high. 0.98
02:09:39.000 Shorts or whatever. 0.98
02:09:40.000 And they're like, this is objectification.
02:09:42.000 They're literally given three options of what to wear.
02:09:45.000 They choose these because the least friction means that they're going to have the, you know, they'll theoretically run faster.
02:09:52.000 So they're making that choice for themselves.
02:09:54.000 But the point is, somebody has to find someplace where they can insert themselves and make it about whatever their form of self is.
02:10:00.000 So Shane Gillis, that blew the whole charade open, funny that they're attacking because I think he already exposed what's going on here, is he was talking about how with volleyball and they wear the super tight short shorts and they get defensive when he was pressing them on it.
02:10:13.000 And he was saying, like, you know, why is that necessary?
02:10:15.000 And they're like, it's from ability.
02:10:16.000 And he's like, well, at the Special Olympics, it's all of a sudden not so important.
02:10:20.000 It looks like the Anne 1 tour.
02:10:21.000 They're wearing shorts to their knees.
02:10:22.000 So suddenly the mobility doesn't matter anymore.
02:10:25.000 You know, he exposed their whole little charade going on here.
02:10:28.000 This is more to my point, which is like, I'm just worn on this type of comedy.
02:10:33.000 Like, I'm sick of comedians having to double as philosophers for modern day problems, whether it's him, whether it's Bill Burr trying to do it from a lefty perspective or Dave Chappelle.
02:10:45.000 Like, I don't want comedy.
02:10:47.000 And maybe that's just because, like, my algorithm is cooked and all the stuff that I laugh at is just so nonsensical on Instagram.
02:10:53.000 It's all skit and satire of a different sort.
02:10:57.000 And maybe it's even to the point where it's like the second it's on SNL, it's passe.
02:11:01.000 It's not funny, anyways, because it's been co signed by Lorne.
02:11:04.000 That's what it is.
02:11:05.000 Like, I don't care.
02:11:06.000 Well, okay, Elliot, I got to ask you are there comedians and women in Canada? 0.92
02:11:10.000 I heard there's women there. 0.99
02:11:12.000 Dude, it's so cooked in Canada. 1.00
02:11:14.000 We had a comedian in Quebec.
02:11:15.000 His name is Mike Ward.
02:11:16.000 All right.
02:11:16.000 He made a joke about a disabled kid.
02:11:20.000 Sounds hilarious, by the way. 1.00
02:11:21.000 Which, by the way, it was hilarious.
02:11:22.000 Already funny.
02:11:23.000 You just heard it.
02:11:24.000 The kid was supposed to apparently die from this disease, and his final wish was to go sing in front of the Pope.
02:11:32.000 And he was horrible, dude.
02:11:33.000 It was like the worst singing in the world. 0.88
02:11:35.000 And then he just never died. 0.99
02:11:37.000 So Mike Ward made a joke about that, being like, Look, I defended you even when you sucked. 0.96
02:11:43.000 And then he sang in front of Céline Dion. 0.99
02:11:44.000 Even when you sucked, then I defended you. 1.00
02:11:47.000 The contract was, I defend you and you freaking die. 1.00
02:11:49.000 And now you didn't die. 0.81
02:11:51.000 So, anyways, he got sued by that kid.
02:11:54.000 And it went all the way to the Supreme Court.
02:11:57.000 So, like, all through the steps.
02:11:59.000 And his take was this is freedom of expression, freedom of speech, whatever you want to call it.
02:12:02.000 In Canada, it's called freedom of speech.
02:12:03.000 They're like, yeah, freedom of speech.
02:12:05.000 Yeah, but it went all the way up there.
02:12:07.000 And that's the thing.
02:12:08.000 In Canada, some people were like, that's mean.
02:12:10.000 It crossed the line.
02:12:11.000 They're jesters, these guys.
02:12:11.000 It's humor.
02:12:12.000 Who gives a fuck what they say? 0.99
02:12:14.000 Don't take it seriously. 0.99
02:12:15.000 And for once, it was actually funny because usually there's like free speech debates.
02:12:17.000 Oh, yeah.
02:12:18.000 It's not even that funny.
02:12:19.000 But this is, that's hilarious.
02:12:20.000 Yeah.
02:12:21.000 That's hilarious.
02:12:22.000 And Mike Ward was on the Joe Rogan show and he spoke about it, as a matter of fact.
02:12:25.000 So I put him on a map.
02:12:26.000 Well, I will.
02:12:27.000 Maybe I have to try and get them on the show.
02:12:28.000 That'd be awesome.
02:12:29.000 But I think we should move to callers.
02:12:31.000 I agree.
02:12:32.000 I think we got a few of them here.
02:12:33.000 Got a few of them stacked up.
02:12:36.000 Who's our first?
02:12:37.000 First one is Willie Wayne.
02:12:39.000 Willie Wayne.
02:12:40.000 What up, dog?
02:12:40.000 What's up, Willie Wayne?
02:12:43.000 What's up, guys?
02:12:43.000 How are y'all doing this afternoon?
02:12:45.000 How about you?
02:12:45.000 Good, man.
02:12:45.000 Doing well.
02:12:46.000 Good, man.
02:12:46.000 How about you?
02:12:48.000 I'm doing all right.
02:12:49.000 First of all, thank you for taking my call.
02:12:51.000 But my question is for the panel.
02:12:51.000 You're quite well.
02:12:55.000 It was based around groups like the Young Americans for Liberty, which is like a Thomas Massey backed group.
02:13:00.000 They're not, but they kind of function like a third party.
02:13:03.000 Should we be putting our effort into pushing groups like that, or should we stick with the status quo of priming out the Republicans we don't like?
02:13:14.000 You should primary out the Republicans you don't like because that is the actual way to get access to political power for policies that you like.
02:13:27.000 There's nothing wrong with Young Americans for Liberty, there's nothing wrong with TPUSA.
02:13:31.000 There are all kinds of political action organizations out there.
02:13:35.000 But at the end of the day, power is what you're after.
02:13:39.000 Political power is what you're after.
02:13:41.000 Then you should be doing your best to make sure people that have your agenda in mind are elected into positions of consequence.
02:13:55.000 Yeah, that makes sense.
02:13:56.000 Yeah, I'm always apprehensive.
02:13:58.000 I mean, I think it'd be, I've said this, like, I think it would be kind of cool to have options in the United States, obviously.
02:14:04.000 You're kind of seeing them in Britain right now experiment with the idea of having a third party, or I guess in this case, restores like an eighth party, but having a party to the right.
02:14:15.000 Of the mainstream populist party, which would be reform, and then sort of try to create this pulley where like it kind of ratchets them to the right.
02:14:22.000 Restore understands they're not going to win the next election, but they do understand that they can kind of work as a pressure group to push reform to the right.
02:14:30.000 Like Restore kind of wants reform to absorb their voters because they'd be so right wing that they would.
02:14:36.000 The United States, just the way our system's set up, it doesn't work.
02:14:38.000 We don't have a, you know, you win a certain amount of the presidential election, you get however many seats.
02:14:44.000 Like it doesn't work that way.
02:14:45.000 You have to win the individual seats.
02:14:47.000 So if you're running a third party, You would have to dump all your money into one house seat or something.
02:14:52.000 Like it would just never work.
02:14:54.000 So, you know, whatever your pejorative is, whatever your prerogative is, whatever your prerogative is, you know, it'd be a waste of energy and time.
02:15:06.000 You're better off just trying to primary.
02:15:09.000 Unfortunately, again, I think it'd be cool if we had pressure groups and third parties or whatever, especially now with how rigid our system is.
02:15:14.000 I think it's unlikely.
02:15:16.000 Canada has some options.
02:15:18.000 We got the People's Party.
02:15:19.000 Yeah, there's a few parties.
02:15:20.000 It's more at the provincial level.
02:15:21.000 You're going to have many parties.
02:15:23.000 I'm for having more options.
02:15:25.000 I've always thought it was a little bit funny that America is a dual system and it's like a few years here, a few years there.
02:15:31.000 It's easy to co opt once you do that.
02:15:33.000 It's not hard to infiltrate.
02:15:34.000 You need to have a bit of diversity.
02:15:36.000 You see, that's good diversity.
02:15:37.000 That's the kind we should want.
02:15:39.000 So, yeah, you know, I encourage people to form those parties.
02:15:42.000 Now, is it going to be easy in Canada?
02:15:44.000 In Canada, but in the U.S., definitely not.
02:15:46.000 There's too much history with two parties.
02:15:47.000 But that's my take.
02:15:48.000 I strongly disagree because coalition governments don't ever produce results or very rarely produce results.
02:15:56.000 We have a hard enough time.
02:15:58.000 With the two parties that we have.
02:16:00.000 If you have, I mean, look at what's going on in Germany, right?
02:16:02.000 The AFD wins like 40% or whatever, and then all the other parties align against them.
02:16:08.000 Well, it's actually a slightly better case scenario, though, because the only reason the AFD exists is because of the coalition government.
02:16:14.000 Otherwise, they would get absorbed into the big tent right wing party.
02:16:17.000 And the fact that the AFD can form a government without a majority, because, okay, they could do a firewall in Germany where every party that's not the AFD joins forces, but there's a few parties like Darlinka that just do not want to join up with the CDU, for example.
02:16:31.000 And so the AFD can govern a state with 40%.
02:16:35.000 And also, just the AFD wouldn't exist if there wasn't, if they had two parties, they would just get absorbed into the right wing party.
02:16:41.000 Obviously, the United States is kind of a weird exception because the Republican Party, people don't want to hear it, is pretty right wing by global standards.
02:16:50.000 So I get where you're coming from.
02:16:51.000 I'm just saying we wouldn't even have an AFD if they had a two party system.
02:16:54.000 And also, the AFD can govern in Saxony Anhalt with 42%.
02:16:58.000 The advantage, too, with the firewall, because they're doing that, is that it's pushing people who are like, okay, I want some reform to happen.
02:17:05.000 They might not normally vote for the AFD, but now they're like, well, we got to give them a chance.
02:17:10.000 Yeah.
02:17:10.000 We need to push them over 50%.
02:17:11.000 If there was a third party, we the third, if there was a third party system in or a third party in the U.S., I mean, that's essentially what like Trump took over.
02:17:20.000 The Republicans here.
02:17:20.000 Yeah.
02:17:21.000 Yeah.
02:17:22.000 We basically have had a massive impact on the United States, you know, politics overall.
02:17:30.000 You, I am, I've been a generally political aware, politically aware person for about 25 years, right?
02:17:38.000 I'm an old guy.
02:17:39.000 And so, like, I, even as a generally politically aware person, didn't realize, it never occurred to me that illegal immigration was such a massive problem.
02:17:50.000 Now, granted, the Biden administration really opened the floodgates and made a significant impact on that.
02:17:56.000 But when Donald Trump came down the escalator and was like, you know, the illegals, blah, I'm like, is that really an issue?
02:18:02.000 Because I didn't realize I'm from New England.
02:18:06.000 And, you know, but I'd been all over the country at that point.
02:18:09.000 I mean, this is.
02:18:10.000 2015.
02:18:11.000 So I'd been touring for 10 years.
02:18:14.000 I'd been all over the country for 15 years.
02:18:16.000 I'd been all over the country.
02:18:17.000 And it just wasn't present in my mind that illegal immigration and immigration was an issue.
02:18:24.000 But Donald Trump changed that.
02:18:25.000 And it wasn't like Donald Trump said this is a problem.
02:18:28.000 And I was like, oh, yeah, that guy is right.
02:18:31.000 Donald Trump pointed to an existing problem.
02:18:34.000 And granted, the problem did get worse under Biden.
02:18:38.000 But he's made significant changes.
02:18:41.000 I mean, just the idea of, you know, Nationalists in the United States, I was kind of under the impression that everybody loved America.
02:18:49.000 And obviously, things have changed in the past 10 years and it's actually gotten worse.
02:18:53.000 But Donald Trump really made, pointed out, you know, pointed a, shown a light on a lot of issues in the United States.
02:19:00.000 And like I said, really changed the Republican Party and what conservatives thought.
02:19:03.000 Well, I mean, that's the advantage of the winner takes all in America, though, is if you're our Trump, you know, and you are able to successfully hijack the Republican Party, congrats, you're now in charge of the second most powerful political institution in the world.
02:19:13.000 When you say that you thought that everybody loved America, do you mean like other Americans?
02:19:18.000 Yeah, generally.
02:19:19.000 I mean, because especially, particularly after, you know, after 9 11, which is very much my formative years in my political knowledge, you know, I was 25 when it happened, 26.
02:19:31.000 Like, I was really kind of under the impression that everybody was, you know, very pro American.
02:19:35.000 I didn't really realize that there was an undercurrent of, you know, basically subversives that had been, you know, gaining steam or started to really gain steam, especially in 2025, 26, 27.
02:19:51.000 I guess for me, it was like I grew up in, like I said, I grew up in Minnesota in the suburbs, and I had friends from nicer suburbs than where I was from.
02:20:01.000 I was from Woodbury, Minnesota, and we had the poor area of Woodbury, and then the rich area where all the people worked at 3M, and then my area of Woodbury by the local prison or whatever it is.
02:20:13.000 And even like friends from other towns and stuff like that, I noticed disdain for. 0.55
02:20:21.000 Middle America, meaning like NASCAR or anything quintessentially thought of as Americana. 0.72
02:20:29.000 And it wouldn't, I wouldn't have phrased it at the time as hatred for America, but definitely hatred for something that was different than them. 0.65
02:20:37.000 I've told this story a few times, but like, so the record that put us on the map is called The Fall of Ideals.
02:20:43.000 And I called it that because I kind of, in 2006, I kind of smelled it, right?
02:20:48.000 I was like, something about the things that make America.
02:20:52.000 You know, make America what it is, had kind of like there were people that kind of thought it was kind of passe, like the freedom of speech and, and, you know, the Second Amendment and stuff is like, it was like, you know, they're, they're, they're okay.
02:21:04.000 But it was almost like people looked at it like, well, it's cute, as opposed to something they really believe is like, yeah, okay.
02:21:12.000 And I was, I called it the fall of ideals because I thought people stopped, were beginning to no longer care about the things that really made the United States the United States.
02:21:23.000 Because again, I don't believe in magic soil, right?
02:21:26.000 The things that we hold dear as a country matter.
02:21:29.000 And if you have people that don't hold those things dear, the country changes, you know?
02:21:33.000 And it's not just demographic shift, though I do think that that plays a huge part in it here.
02:21:38.000 I think that a big component of the American dream, which is where all of this is kind of based around, right?
02:21:46.000 It's not magic soil.
02:21:47.000 It was this quintessential idea of the American dream that if you work hard and you play by the rules, you will theoretically get the house with the white picket fence and the wife or the husband and the 2.5 kids and you'll be happy.
02:22:03.000 And whether it was through subversive liberal media, combine that with the economic crash in 2008, which played a huge part of it there.
02:22:13.000 And then the growing disdain that people, especially older millennials, seem to have for the world that they were raised in, sort of being pulled out from under them, whether it's student loans, whether it's the fact that the economy that they kind of inherited once they finished college was no longer the one that propelled their parents to a higher level.
02:22:35.000 That ties directly to their idea of the nation because they're looking at that as more and more of the companies are being bought up by larger and larger conglomerates.
02:22:46.000 They don't have access, seemingly, at least in their eyes, to the same things that their parents did.
02:22:51.000 And they hold the country responsible for that.
02:22:53.000 And that might be the more like pseudo intellectual version of this.
02:22:56.000 Like, I'm not smart.
02:22:58.000 But the idea is that I think that there is a rosy idea of America that people held on to.
02:23:06.000 That just doesn't jive with reality in the same way anymore.
02:23:09.000 And the folks, the aphorisms that sort of back that ideal, which are good pieces of advice.
02:23:15.000 Working hard is good advice.
02:23:19.000 Taking radical responsibility for your actions, your choices, and living and dying based on the choices you make, that's a good thing.
02:23:26.000 But there's still a victim mentality amongst a lot of people that has sort of separated them from any ability to love America.
02:23:33.000 I think that when it comes to people that are, I guess, Generally, right leaning, they have a lot of the same problems that anyone else does, particularly young people.
02:23:48.000 But I do think that this is a phenomenon that's acute for younger people.
02:23:53.000 Definitely not for people my age.
02:23:55.000 Like I said, I'm an old guy, I'm 51.
02:23:57.000 So, that kind of stuff isn't something that's very material to most people my age.
02:24:05.000 I think that's a problem that young people feel most acutely, probably people Tate's age.
02:24:11.000 And so I think it's actually somewhat new.
02:24:14.000 And by new, I mean past decade.
02:24:17.000 I think there's some nihilism too with the millennials voting for change without really knowing what change was supposed to be.
02:24:23.000 Yeah.
02:24:23.000 In 2008, you were sold like a slogan, and then you're like, well, what does that mean?
02:24:29.000 Yeah.
02:24:29.000 And just as the banking crisis happens and they bail out the banks, and they're like, okay, so what?
02:24:34.000 Yeah.
02:24:34.000 I mean, look, the hope and change was a total bait and switch because, and it was, it was, it was, I don't want to say that it was nefarious, but it had such a negative effect on people because.
02:24:48.000 Everybody decided that hope and change meant something personal to them.
02:24:53.000 Yeah.
02:24:54.000 And there was nothing material about it.
02:24:56.000 It was just like, hope and change.
02:24:58.000 What does hope and change mean to you?
02:25:00.000 Because it's a slogan that everybody can take and they can place their own meaning on.
02:25:06.000 And that doesn't mean that you're going to get it.
02:25:08.000 It was just sloganeering and it just sounded good.
02:25:11.000 I mean, does the same hold true for Make America Great Again?
02:25:14.000 Because people have vastly different ideas as to what that means.
02:25:17.000 I think people on the right that.
02:25:21.000 When they hear the phrase make America again, they generally have kind of an idea of what they're thinking.
02:25:29.000 It's, I think that it's a little more salient than hope and change.
02:25:35.000 I think what makes America great again, you see a lot of the, you know, a lot of the 80s kind of.
02:25:40.000 I think of Reagan when I hear that.
02:25:42.000 I think that there's a lot of people that think of kind of like the 80s, maybe, you know, late 80s.
02:25:42.000 Yeah.
02:25:47.000 Well, maybe.
02:25:48.000 I mean, I don't know.
02:25:49.000 I don't know if that's what they think.
02:25:51.000 I think of the 1770s.
02:25:51.000 I think they think of.
02:25:58.000 I think most people think of like, you know, The 80s and 90s, because that was kind of the time where we had, you know, pretty good economic activity.
02:26:07.000 It seemed like things were attainable.
02:26:11.000 The dollar, you know, did a deep, could buy you some stuff, you know.
02:26:16.000 So, like, make the joke is like you listen to any documentary about like Ruby Ridge, Waco.
02:26:22.000 It's like, how did these crazy people afford cabins in the woods?
02:26:25.000 Yeah.
02:26:26.000 Back in the day, they just, you know, they don't have a job, they're out on their own, yet somehow they bought a plot of land and built a cabin.
02:26:32.000 And, uh, Of course, you look into it more, and it's like their family paid for it or something like that.
02:26:36.000 I think that was what happened with the.
02:26:38.000 But it's just like that's what I think people think of.
02:26:40.000 They're like, you know, and that's what's sold when people are rage baiting on X, right?
02:26:44.000 It's like your parents own two homes and they only worked 40 hours a week and they had it easy.
02:26:49.000 And that generational divide has gotten worse and worse and worse with people.
02:26:54.000 Yeah.
02:26:55.000 Well, caller, do you have any follow up on this discussion?
02:26:58.000 Any final thoughts here?
02:27:01.000 No, not necessarily.
02:27:02.000 I think Crowder said it best when he talked about the multi party system and. 0.98
02:27:07.000 Canada with Trudeau, you know, for something like that to be functional, you have to believe that at least 30% of the population isn't stupid. 0.97
02:27:14.000 And yeah, that's true. 0.97
02:27:15.000 You know, look around.
02:27:17.000 It's very true.
02:27:17.000 It's true.
02:27:19.000 Well, we appreciate you calling in.
02:27:21.000 Where can people find you?
02:27:21.000 What do you want to shout out?
02:27:24.000 Well, I actually want to shout out the Discord with their poker tournaments on Saturday night.
02:27:29.000 Half Armenian Charles actually joined us this last Saturday. 1.00
02:27:33.000 Kicked our butts in the second game and eliminated six of us. 1.00
02:27:33.000 We love it. 1.00
02:27:37.000 Doesn't he know he's supposed to let you win?
02:27:40.000 That's what we said, but evidently he didn't care.
02:27:42.000 He put me in second place, you know, for my second time that night.
02:27:45.000 So I was pretty upset about it.
02:27:48.000 Well, that's great.
02:27:49.000 Well, I concur.
02:27:50.000 I think people should be heading that way. 0.99
02:27:52.000 He's a Quebec girl. 1.00
02:27:52.000 Yeah, Crowder. 1.00
02:27:53.000 I don't think people really realize.
02:27:56.000 There's a few good guys from Canada.
02:27:56.000 Yeah.
02:27:57.000 Mom's Canadian, and then he grew up in Quebec.
02:28:01.000 Peterson, too. 0.57
02:28:01.000 Fascinating. 0.57
02:28:02.000 Oh, yeah, of course.
02:28:02.000 Jordan Peterson.
02:28:04.000 He's Canadian.
02:28:04.000 Peterson.
02:28:05.000 I worked with a 70 year old from the same region he's from, and he talks exactly the same as you.
02:28:10.000 Oh.
02:28:11.000 Oh, wow.
02:28:12.000 Next, we've got.
02:28:13.000 Whoa, who's next?
02:28:15.000 Next, we've got Willie Wayne.
02:28:16.000 Wait, no, we just had Willie Wayne.
02:28:18.000 What he talked to him, man.
02:28:19.000 All he had to say was salty bag of nuts.
02:28:21.000 That's the ethos.
02:28:22.000 It's got to be a new caller every time.
02:28:25.000 New idea.
02:28:26.000 What's up, Salty?
02:28:27.000 It's Salty man.
02:28:30.000 Stop.
02:28:34.000 Hey, what's up, guys?
02:28:35.000 Hey, what's up, Salty?
02:28:36.000 I gotta figure out how to unmute.
02:28:37.000 There you go.
02:28:37.000 Happen.
02:28:38.000 What's going on?
02:28:40.000 There we go.
02:28:41.000 So.
02:28:43.000 Elliot, are you a UFC fan?
02:28:45.000 Do you watch fights at all?
02:28:47.000 I wouldn't say I'm a fan, but I've watched fights, yeah.
02:28:51.000 This weekend, Mike Malotte is a Canadian.
02:28:54.000 He's fighting Joaquin Buckley.
02:28:57.000 So I was just letting you know that, I guess.
02:29:00.000 I used to follow it more when it was George St. Pierre, but since that, not so much.
02:29:05.000 He's a great guy, but I've met him a few times.
02:29:06.000 Oh, really?
02:29:07.000 He's a great guy.
02:29:08.000 Really cool guy.
02:29:09.000 I love Canadians who are like, yeah, I met him.
02:29:10.000 It's another Canadian.
02:29:11.000 Oh, because he's always out and about.
02:29:12.000 In Montreal, you can find him everywhere.
02:29:14.000 I bumped into him at a steakhouse.
02:29:15.000 Yeah.
02:29:16.000 He's just there. 0.99
02:29:17.000 Sick.
02:29:18.000 Speaking of UFC, do you guys know who Tim Kennedy is?
02:29:21.000 Yes.
02:29:22.000 Oh, yeah.
02:29:22.000 That was shocking.
02:29:23.000 Yeah.
02:29:23.000 Yeah.
02:29:24.000 He's at Walter Reed right now.
02:29:26.000 Yeah.
02:29:26.000 New Zealand special forces do get killed.
02:29:30.000 Well, they completely underestimated.
02:29:31.000 You guys are familiar with the story.
02:29:33.000 Yeah, completely underestimated what warfare looks like now.
02:29:33.000 Yeah.
02:29:36.000 I mean, the Rwandans are serious players. 0.97
02:29:40.000 I think they thought that it was going to be like, you know, the old, you know, where you just come in with a single helicopter and that's all the air cover you need.
02:29:50.000 Like executive outcomes.
02:29:51.000 They thought it was going to be like that executive outcomes era.
02:29:54.000 No, not the case at all.
02:29:55.000 These guys have all the works.
02:29:58.000 Yeah.
02:29:59.000 You know, they don't need air superior air superiority now because of the drones.
02:30:04.000 And apparently, they used a drone to go and kind of figure out where they all were and what they were planning, and they could tell when they were moving and that sort of thing.
02:30:14.000 So, shocking, shocking to see because that was kind of always our with the mercenaries.
02:30:21.000 That was kind of always their advantage was just having a huge tech advantage over specifically in Africa.
02:30:27.000 The Rwandans aren't playing around, man. 0.91
02:30:28.000 The Rwandans are playing for keeps right now. 0.81
02:30:31.000 There's a lot of money on the line, a lot of resources.
02:30:35.000 What are your guys' thoughts on private military contractors performing in the area, especially Congo, which is a pretty crazy place, just to protect mining operations and stuff like that?
02:30:49.000 Well, I'm pro Western mercenaries because typically these countries contract them, the governments contract them for security.
02:30:59.000 They want to either protect the president, maybe corrupt, it's neither here nor there, or.
02:31:04.000 You know, it's rare, like, you can go through like executive outcomes and how they operated.
02:31:08.000 It's rare that they behave poorly.
02:31:10.000 They're very disciplined.
02:31:12.000 They kept everything in check and they were a stabilizing force.
02:31:17.000 Like, I think executive outcomes in Sierra Leone prevented a full blown genocide from occurring.
02:31:23.000 You know, Neil Ellis was operating, he managed to keep off an entire, like, 5,000 strong army and keep Freetown safe, kept them from barreling into Freetown with just a single helicopter.
02:31:38.000 So, I'm very pro mercenary.
02:31:40.000 I think it's really cool.
02:31:41.000 I think it gives the United States flexibility.
02:31:45.000 Like, for example, with Haiti, Eric Prince operating in Haiti.
02:31:48.000 And I think that allows the United States to sort of, you know, indirectly have influence on Haiti without us having to pledge any of our resources.
02:31:57.000 We used mercenaries quite a lot during the global war on terror.
02:32:00.000 And it, again, gives us a lot of flexibility.
02:32:03.000 But I think it's cool.
02:32:04.000 I think it kind of reminds you of how things used to be, you know, with the.
02:32:09.000 East India Company and the Dutch operated somewhat similarly. 0.96
02:32:13.000 So I'm pro Western mercenaries. 0.50
02:32:15.000 From what I've heard, and it's not even propaganda, it's just true, and I can vouch for this because I was there.
02:32:21.000 The Wagner and some of the Russian mercenaries aren't as keen on sort of behaving in a decent fashion.
02:32:31.000 They're not very gentlemanly how they operate.
02:32:35.000 When I was in Tanzania, again, it's Just hearsay anecdote, but I had two locals tell me that Wagner basically just went in and decimated a village because they were alleged to be possessing some sort of criminal they were after. 0.91
02:32:51.000 So I think this is an example where Western superiority does come through. 0.97
02:32:56.000 Our guys just do it better.
02:32:58.000 And I think there are countless examples, like Sierra Leone's a great example of where mercenaries have actually probably kept the place safer.
02:33:04.000 Look, these people want Western style security. 0.82
02:33:07.000 So instead of bringing Cameroonians to Montreal, why not bring Canadian security to?
02:33:14.000 Why not bring Western, you know, maybe not democracy, but Western security, you know, that level of safety to Cameroon?
02:33:21.000 And they have the right to procure that. 0.95
02:33:23.000 And that's why they use mercenaries.
02:33:25.000 So, yeah, I'm fairly pro mercenary.
02:33:29.000 And I think they're cool.
02:33:30.000 There's a lot of great books.
02:33:32.000 Simon Mann.
02:33:33.000 Simon Mann is a fascinating guy to read about.
02:33:36.000 He ended up in jail in Equatorial Guinea because he and Maggie Thatcher's kid, Mark Thatcher, were trying to go and basically do a coup in Equatorial Guinea.
02:33:51.000 And they got busted in the airport in Zimbabwe because the South Africans ratted them out.
02:33:56.000 And Simon Mann got extradited to Equatorial Guinea, I think.
02:34:00.000 And he wrote a book about all this time he spent in the Slammer there and just insane.
02:34:05.000 They had to have like a British MP come in and get him out.
02:34:08.000 So those guys lived lifetimes of, you know, multiple lifetimes worth of stories packed into, you know, 40 year career.
02:34:17.000 Yeah.
02:34:18.000 Simon Mann died, I think, a few months ago.
02:34:19.000 And I was listening to a few interviews he had done and just like so much fun.
02:34:24.000 You sacrifice a lot, obviously, but just so much fun they had. 0.78
02:34:29.000 With how much we benefit from Africa and what we extract from there, why don't we just put a big old fat military base there?
02:34:37.000 Oh, we, I mean, we have Central African Republic, we have some intel operations and I think a small base, but yeah, why not build like a full blown base in the middle of Africa? 0.88
02:34:51.000 It's a good question.
02:34:51.000 I don't know.
02:34:52.000 I think generally we want to stay out of the Congo right now. 0.98
02:34:56.000 It's a bad look if the Americans start like plundering Africa. 1.00
02:35:01.000 So, what works better. 0.98
02:35:04.000 And this is how we've operated thus far a combination of American capital investing, foreign investment, American capital investing in the region, and then combine that with private security, mercenaries, et cetera, to protect American companies and their assets when they're mining and whatnot.
02:35:23.000 Look up in the Southeast Congo, Katanga, the Katanga province.
02:35:29.000 This is like the largest supply of copper in the world, it comes from Katanga.
02:35:32.000 And there's a lot of American drilling.
02:35:34.000 Going on there, and Katanga is relatively safe compared to well, you know, Northeast Congo, there's a war going on.
02:35:40.000 Uh, and the primary reason is because you have a lot of mercenaries operating in the area and they're able to provide security solutions, and it allows American capital to extract the resources.
02:35:50.000 Um, and everyone else is there the Dutch, the English, the Chinese, right?
02:35:54.000 Russians.
02:35:55.000 Um, but that's the better way to do it rather than sending the military in and plundering. 1.00
02:35:59.000 It's just going to create problems for us.
02:36:01.000 Um, so yeah, you know, you have like massive companies like Anglo American, a huge company.
02:36:08.000 And they do a lot of drilling in Africa and they under the table.
02:36:12.000 You'll never hear about it.
02:36:13.000 Back in the day, they were cutting deals with executive outcomes.
02:36:16.000 So it's a fascinating.
02:36:19.000 Yeah, Tim was working for Vectis Global under Eric.
02:36:23.000 Yeah.
02:36:24.000 Who is one of the founders of Blackwater.
02:36:26.000 Yeah.
02:36:26.000 Yeah.
02:36:27.000 As far as I know, I was reading about it.
02:36:27.000 Yeah.
02:36:29.000 That was, and I mean, it's neither here nor there, but that was mostly Tim's operation.
02:36:34.000 I don't think Eric had much to say or to do with it.
02:36:37.000 Eric's.
02:36:39.000 From what I've heard, he's more focused in Haiti right now.
02:36:42.000 I think that was more Tim Kennedy's sort of baby. 0.70
02:36:47.000 And they underestimated what the Rwandans had in their back pocket. 1.00
02:36:55.000 Their disposal. 0.97
02:36:57.000 It was the counter wreak on drones is what really burned him.
02:37:00.000 Tim and his family.
02:37:03.000 I've known him for a while, not known him personally, but I've known of him for a long time and I look up to him.
02:37:08.000 I did have private security for quite a while.
02:37:10.000 So he's just somebody in the field that I just kind of admired.
02:37:13.000 So my heart goes out to his family and friends.
02:37:17.000 He's a badass.
02:37:17.000 I imagine as soon as they patch him up, he'll be right back out there.
02:37:22.000 If I had to take a guess, he's three rounds.
02:37:25.000 He took three AK rounds to his thigh.
02:37:28.000 I'm not so sure he's going to be getting back out there.
02:37:30.000 He is a bad man.
02:37:32.000 He is. 0.99
02:37:32.000 He is. 0.99
02:37:33.000 He's going to be limping out there. 0.92
02:37:35.000 You got to smash.
02:37:36.000 I mean, I don't know how, like what the actual damage is, but I mean, he was, you know, he's wearing a tourniquet and he probably had a smashed femur.
02:37:36.000 He might.
02:37:45.000 So he's definitely probably going to lose a leg.
02:37:47.000 But, well, you know, the other, there was an ex New Zealand special forces.
02:37:52.000 He died.
02:37:53.000 So they had a A fatality.
02:37:56.000 So it could always be worse.
02:37:58.000 And I think it was that guy's first operation, too. 0.99
02:38:00.000 It really sucks.
02:38:01.000 Well, I mean, if it's his first operation with them, but obviously if he's an SF guy from New Zealand, he's been. 0.89
02:38:08.000 Yeah, I don't know if he was.
02:38:09.000 I think he was too young for GWAT, so I don't know if he ever had any deployments.
02:38:15.000 That's what a lot of those guys get frustrated.
02:38:17.000 They're not getting deployed, so they go to the private military.
02:38:20.000 Danger will wrap. 0.91
02:38:22.000 Because the South African military doesn't treat the. 1.00
02:38:25.000 Whites very well. 0.99
02:38:26.000 So they end up joining up in the PMCs. 0.99
02:38:29.000 But yeah, if you can't make the PMCs, you can always go French Foreign Legion, being there with a bunch of Bosnian criminals and stuff.
02:38:37.000 Russian defectors.
02:38:38.000 Anyway, caller, you got any further thoughts, closing thoughts?
02:38:44.000 No, I'm sure Tim's going to be on Joe Rogan here shortly when he gets patched up.
02:38:49.000 So I look forward to watching that episode.
02:38:50.000 But that's all I got.
02:38:53.000 Well, appreciate you calling in.
02:38:53.000 Thank you, sir.
02:38:55.000 Yeah, that'd be super cool if we could somehow get Tim Kennedy on the show.
02:38:58.000 I know it'd be like impossible.
02:38:59.000 I don't know about impossible.
02:39:01.000 It'd be a lot of fun.
02:39:02.000 All right.
02:39:05.000 We got one more caller.
02:39:06.000 Someone's saying, Why would Tate know the name of a province in the Democratic Republic?
02:39:10.000 Africa is like the only part of the world that's like super interesting to me.
02:39:15.000 We've been multiple times, right?
02:39:17.000 Just once, but like for a long time.
02:39:18.000 But there's just so much exciting stuff.
02:39:21.000 Like it's the only place it feels like a frontier still.
02:39:23.000 I feel like I would get like Ebola if I went to Africa. 0.96
02:39:28.000 Yeah, probably. 1.00
02:39:29.000 You know, it's funny.
02:39:30.000 I like went through all the bush and everything, never got sick.
02:39:32.000 And then as soon as I got to Johannesburg, which is like, First world.
02:39:35.000 I got super sick because they're McDonald's.
02:39:36.000 Oh, yeah.
02:39:37.000 I remember you telling that story.
02:39:38.000 So unfortunate.
02:39:39.000 All right. 0.98
02:39:39.000 Taylor Lorenz's ex wife. 0.98
02:39:41.000 What's up?
02:39:42.000 What's up, Taylor?
02:39:43.000 Hi, guys.
02:39:44.000 Hi, hi.
02:39:45.000 Tate, Phil, Elliot, Carter, and Brett.
02:39:48.000 What's going on?
02:39:50.000 Not much.
02:39:51.000 Freaking out about Texas down here.
02:39:55.000 With Tala Rico's weekend flu story turning into an Ohio mental hospital adventure and this late campaign meltdown.
02:40:05.000 With most voters already being locked in as blue, no matter who, or voting against the Dems, myself included, does that middle slice in Texas actually get swayed by this, or is the state just cooked for Republicans either way?
02:40:19.000 So, this is looking like it might actually blow up in the Republicans' face and cause a lot of problems.
02:40:25.000 There's Tallarico.
02:40:29.000 I don't think he was actually in a mental institution.
02:40:35.000 The facility in question says that they've never heard of him.
02:40:40.000 I've read on X that there was proof that Tallarica was at home.
02:40:44.000 So this looks like it could just be like bad news all around for the Republicans.
02:40:48.000 And if that's the case, I think that Paxton's done.
02:40:53.000 Yeah.
02:40:53.000 You know, this was a disaster.
02:40:56.000 Yeah.
02:40:56.000 And it's so hard to know what to trust because everybody, you know, Nick had the big tweet of the weekend.
02:41:01.000 I'm pretty sure Matt Walsh said it was confirmed today, but I don't know when he records.
02:41:06.000 And then Texas, you got to stick with Tony Ortiz.
02:41:09.000 You got to stick with Tony Ortiz for this kind of stuff.
02:41:13.000 And when it comes to Texas.
02:41:14.000 He's kind of the final authority.
02:41:15.000 And he was saying right away, like, guys, don't report this.
02:41:19.000 This is going to get someone sued.
02:41:21.000 And the guy who was shopping the story, I don't want to name him, start beef, but the one that was shopping the story, even the Daily Wire and the Blaze and the Daily Caller were like, no, this is, we can't report this.
02:41:34.000 And then he passed it along to some Twitter peeps.
02:41:39.000 And the standards are a bit lower on Twitter.
02:41:42.000 So they reported it right away.
02:41:43.000 And who knows if they get sued.
02:41:46.000 I think personally, someone was, you know, mentioned this could be a possibility.
02:41:50.000 That the Tallarico camp might have purposely planted that to try and get someone in trouble.
02:41:58.000 So I don't know.
02:41:59.000 I'd ask Tony if he thinks that could be the case.
02:42:01.000 When it comes to Texas, I trust Tony, but that seems likely.
02:42:04.000 The Tallarico, he has some pretty crafty guys on his team.
02:42:08.000 So that wouldn't be surprising.
02:42:10.000 And Paxton's, you know, they're down to the polls.
02:42:13.000 So they're looking for any, you know, boost they can get right now.
02:42:16.000 Yeah.
02:42:17.000 So unfortunate.
02:42:19.000 Yeah.
02:42:21.000 Do you guys think Abbott wins or. 0.99
02:42:24.000 Yeah, screwed too. 0.94
02:42:25.000 I think Abbott wins because he's got a bipartisan appeal. 0.98
02:42:31.000 Paxton's done.
02:42:32.000 French is done. 0.53
02:42:33.000 Sadly, I think French is fantastic.
02:42:36.000 Just because Paxton's going to drag the ticket down and the downstate Republicans won't do well because of that, the down ballot Republicans. 0.98
02:42:45.000 So, yeah, it just sucks.
02:42:48.000 We're going to, I mean, six years of Tallarica is really going to cause us some problems.
02:42:51.000 Yep.
02:42:52.000 And if, you know, if he's able to kind of mature, I guess, I don't know what other word to use.
02:42:59.000 He's going to be talked about as a potential presidential candidate in six to eight years, you know, depending on how the next election goes.
02:43:06.000 So get ready for that.
02:43:08.000 You know, they tried it with Beto.
02:43:09.000 They love these guys that are like red state progressives, they love those types.
02:43:14.000 So even if you're like rolling your eyes, me saying that, trust me, you're going to be here in Tallarico for VP or president in the next five to 10 years.
02:43:23.000 Yeah, it's not good to hear.
02:43:23.000 Yuck.
02:43:27.000 Well, thanks for weighing in on my local politics.
02:43:27.000 All right.
02:43:32.000 I will let you guys have the rest of your evening back.
02:43:34.000 Thanks for taking my call.
02:43:36.000 And if you're not in our Discord, you should join us.
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02:43:40.000 Absolutely.
02:43:41.000 Thanks, Taylor.
02:43:42.000 Thank you so much.
02:43:43.000 Good to hear from you.
02:43:44.000 Thank you.
02:43:45.000 Bye.
02:43:45.000 All right.
02:43:45.000 Thank you.
02:43:46.000 Bye now.
02:43:47.000 All right.
02:43:48.000 Well, that's us.
02:43:49.000 That's us.
02:43:50.000 Yeah.
02:43:50.000 That's a wrap.
02:43:51.000 Well, Elliot.
02:43:53.000 Merci.
02:43:53.000 Ça me fait plaisir, mon gars.
02:43:57.000 Oui.
02:43:58.000 Yeah.
02:44:00.000 There you go.
02:44:01.000 Oui, oui.
02:44:03.000 Manifique.
02:44:04.000 Can you, how do I say, like and subscribe and.
02:44:06.000 Like and subscribe, honestly.
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02:44:11.000 The Quebec language police are gonna like lynch you for that, yeah.
02:44:14.000 Again, like the second I land in Montreal, dude, handcuffed with this hat on top of that, handcuffed.
02:44:14.000 I know.
02:44:21.000 Wow, maybe you can be like the first Canadian refugee, that'd be beautiful. 1.00
02:44:24.000 Yeah, I'm gonna go to the curry camp. 1.00
02:44:27.000 Well, thanks, Elliot, and thank you guys very much for watching. 0.96
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