Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 03, 2026


Lindsay Clancy Jury 11 to 1, Defense DEMANDS Juror Be REMOVED, MISTRIAL INCOMING | Timcast IRL


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00:02:14.000 The Lindsey Clancy trial deadlocked again.
00:02:17.000 Only this time, the defense came out furious, saying it's 11 to 1.
00:02:22.000 There is one holdout.
00:02:24.000 Now, we're not entirely sure.
00:02:26.000 Is this one holdout screaming not guilty or guilty?
00:02:29.000 Because we don't know the actual breakdown of what is happening.
00:02:32.000 Suffice it to say, this is crazy that anybody would consider this woman to be not guilty.
00:02:40.000 If she's found guilty, she goes away for six months, and then they can say, you know what?
00:02:44.000 She's not crazy, and they can let her go if she's found not guilty by reason of insanity.
00:02:48.000 So, we're going to talk about that.
00:02:50.000 We got another crazy story.
00:02:52.000 This is well, there's somebody who works for Tish James in New York who is saying that they were instructed to seek out crimes against the president.
00:03:02.000 That is everything you thought.
00:03:04.000 It's one big conspiracy.
00:03:05.000 We'll talk about that.
00:03:06.000 We also got Maria Bartiromo out at Fox News, and we got the report from Tony Ortiz out in Texas about these independent reporters who took a trip to Poland.
00:03:16.000 From some pro Israeli groups, and we'll talk about what that means.
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00:03:24.000 Joining us today to talk about this and everything else is Cheryl Riley.
00:03:28.000 Hi.
00:03:29.000 Thanks for having me.
00:03:30.000 Who are you?
00:03:31.000 What do you do?
00:03:32.000 So, my name is Cheryl Riley, and I am running for Congress in Maryland's 8th District against Jamie Raskin.
00:03:41.000 It's my second run against trying to oust.
00:03:48.000 Mr. Representative Raskin, who really isn't a representative.
00:03:54.000 I'm a third generation Montgomery County native, and I've watched my district and my county go by the wayside for decades.
00:04:07.000 And so I thought it's time for me to step up.
00:04:10.000 I'm just a normal, average, everyday American citizen who decided to step in to this race to make a difference.
00:04:20.000 Right on.
00:04:20.000 Well, good to have you.
00:04:21.000 Certainly, I'm no fan of Raskin.
00:04:23.000 He's lied about me personally.
00:04:24.000 So, while I talk about it, the boys are hanging out.
00:04:26.000 Yeah, what's going on?
00:04:27.000 Happy to be here.
00:04:28.000 How are you doing, Tate?
00:04:29.000 What's up, everyone?
00:04:30.000 Chilling.
00:04:31.000 They are all indeed the boys.
00:04:33.000 They're the boys.
00:04:34.000 At least I think.
00:04:35.000 I haven't checked.
00:04:37.000 I am.
00:04:37.000 I hope so.
00:04:37.000 They're really the boys.
00:04:39.000 You never know these days.
00:04:42.000 You never know.
00:04:42.000 I can verify.
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00:05:30.000 Let's jump into the news.
00:05:30.000 We got this from the New York Times.
00:05:33.000 Lindsey Clancy trial defense blames single juror for deadlock.
00:05:37.000 The judge refused a defense lawyer's request to remove a juror who he said was not heeding instructions on reasonable doubt.
00:05:44.000 The jury, deadlocked since at least Tuesday, was sent home for the day.
00:05:48.000 So this guy made it seem like it's 11 to 1 with one person wanting her to be guilty and 11 saying not guilty.
00:05:57.000 That's what the defense is making it sound like, saying remove this one person.
00:06:00.000 Going on to say, he says he's crushed their case.
00:06:03.000 It looks like they're going to win, but there is just one, well, the presumption is guy.
00:06:09.000 We don't know for sure.
00:06:10.000 I mean, you know, everybody's saying there's one guy in the jury who's pleading with them.
00:06:14.000 She's guilty.
00:06:14.000 Listen to me.
00:06:16.000 If it's a woman who's telling all these people they're crazy, I could imagine three guys being like, I don't care.
00:06:21.000 I want to go home.
00:06:23.000 And there could be one woman just being like, absolutely not.
00:06:25.000 So don't jump to conclusions just yet.
00:06:27.000 But still, very crazy.
00:06:29.000 This is going to be a mistrial because now it's been the third instruction to deliberate.
00:06:34.000 They can't do it.
00:06:35.000 The next likely outcome is going to be, I think it's tomorrow, right?
00:06:37.000 Is that what it is?
00:06:38.000 And they are going to say mistrial.
00:06:40.000 And if they don't bring, they may choose not to bring a trial against her again.
00:06:43.000 Just let her walk.
00:06:45.000 Which would be, I mean, that would be devastating to the credibility of women everywhere.
00:06:51.000 Absolutely.
00:06:52.000 Absolutely.
00:06:53.000 This is something that's gone around a lot, and I'm not the first person to say it, but you know, when the argument 100 years ago was look, women, you know, women shouldn't be allowed to bear the burdens that men bear because they're emotional, they're hysterical, they're like children.
00:07:15.000 That was the argument against women's suffrage.
00:07:17.000 It was an argument.
00:07:19.000 Against women having full equal rights.
00:07:22.000 And then this court case here sets the exact same precedent.
00:07:28.000 For the Salem witch trials?
00:07:28.000 She was.
00:07:30.000 Well, I mean, YouTube has rules, but.
00:07:34.000 I'm joking, YouTube, calm down.
00:07:37.000 But yeah, like the argument is she couldn't control herself.
00:07:41.000 She was emotional.
00:07:41.000 She was postpartum, which isn't even true, but the postpartum period is six months and the youngest baby was eight months.
00:07:49.000 But they're making the same argument.
00:07:51.000 That the people against women's suffrage and against equal rights for women were making 100 years ago.
00:07:58.000 This is going to set precedent.
00:08:00.000 And there's going to be people in the world that are going to quietly say, Yeah, I don't want to hire a woman.
00:08:07.000 I don't want women doing this and that.
00:08:09.000 Whether or not they actually say it vocally and with their full throat, or if they just quietly don't hire women because they don't believe that it's the correct.
00:08:22.000 Course of action for their business, or they don't vote for a woman because they think, well, you know, I don't know.
00:08:27.000 That's what it is that there will be people that are going to say that.
00:08:31.000 This is the has been described as like they call it, they're calling it online the Ho Jay Simpson Simpson trial.
00:08:37.000 I've seen that, yeah.
00:08:39.000 Right?
00:08:40.000 Because it is, it's got the same type of or a similar public attention or similar amount of public attention, and people are kind of, you know, getting into their corners and all.
00:08:53.000 Almost no men are saying this is acceptable or we have to understand where she was coming from and et cetera.
00:09:01.000 Whereas almost all of the people that are on Lindsey Clancy's side are all women and they're all saying, Well, you just don't understand.
00:09:09.000 And I can empathize with her and et cetera.
00:09:11.000 And it's like empathy is not what's being decided here.
00:09:17.000 Just because you can understand doesn't mean that she didn't do it.
00:09:23.000 Has said she did it.
00:09:24.000 Now, the argument here is whether or not the charges were, you know, charge of first degree murder or whatever the actual charges are, if those are the correct charges.
00:09:33.000 But at the end of the day, she has said that she did it.
00:09:37.000 And there are people out there that are even saying because they watched that one clip of the judge saying, you know, being very specific about what the law is and what reasonable doubt is.
00:09:51.000 Like, oh, she never admitted it.
00:09:52.000 It's like, well, she did say that she did it.
00:09:54.000 Everyone knows that she did it.
00:09:56.000 That's not what's in question here.
00:09:59.000 So, that kind of opinion from people and the rest of the world, or the rest, normal people are looking at those people like, what the hell are you talking about?
00:10:08.000 This is what I wonder when it comes to civil war.
00:10:12.000 Because the political divide in this country is largely male versus female.
00:10:16.000 That is, the Democratic Party skews heavily female, the Republican Party skews male.
00:10:21.000 This show, news in general, skews male.
00:10:24.000 And then it's fairly obvious when it comes to issues of structure, control, object, men are watching.
00:10:32.000 When it comes to issues of drama or gossip, women are watching.
00:10:36.000 So the worlds that men and women are occupying are just dramatically different.
00:10:40.000 There is no unified news source.
00:10:43.000 So, what is this political conflict ultimately going to be if it is overwhelmingly gender divided?
00:10:50.000 Yeah.
00:10:50.000 I mean, in this instance, I think this is more evidence that we're entering like the mass psychosis era where people can sort of whip themselves up into a frenzy.
00:11:00.000 Because, look, I think it was Josh Clemens.
00:11:05.000 He's a great, great patriot over on Twitter.
00:11:09.000 And he was saying that in the AI era, we might have to be, I think this was him that said this, is he was saying we're probably going to have to just move to bench trials.
00:11:15.000 Because, I mean, like, If we quite literally cannot find enough normal people to compose a jury that haven't been tampered with by effectively AI in the sense of your social media algorithms being especially targeted for something that you're interested in.
00:11:29.000 In this instance, if you're on a high profile case, you're likely going to get targeted content on the case that you're on a jury for.
00:11:40.000 Then we probably need to move on to just having bench trials because if a jury just can't rely on them to come to court.
00:11:45.000 How do you rely on these judges?
00:11:47.000 This is part of the debate that I was having with Nick Fritz, who I always shout out because he's one of the best.
00:11:52.000 He was the best in Virginia.
00:11:53.000 He's one of the best commentators.
00:11:54.000 But we disagree on when I was arguing.
00:11:57.000 Actually, I think we largely had a semantic debate, but I will stress we have judges in this country that are ruling in violation of the Constitution every day, and they tend to be Democrat appointed ones.
00:12:07.000 I certainly agree that we have a huge problem with judges, but I still trust your average judge far more than I trust your average jury these days.
00:12:16.000 Unless you know how to play.
00:12:18.000 Look, it's easy.
00:12:19.000 Tate, come on.
00:12:20.000 I'm going to stop you.
00:12:21.000 You're wrong.
00:12:22.000 You definitely want a jury trial.
00:12:23.000 You want a jury trial, and then you want your lawyer to pay Candace Owens to be on your side.
00:12:28.000 That's a fair point.
00:12:30.000 I think that might be the common ground.
00:12:31.000 I mean, they could have just sequestered the jury.
00:12:32.000 That would have solved a lot of inevitable things.
00:12:34.000 But it's just like you have to parody cage their phones.
00:12:37.000 Yeah, they do that.
00:12:38.000 What's the old joke about the problem with juries is the only people on them are the people too stupid to not get off jury duty?
00:12:47.000 Precisely.
00:12:48.000 If you start sequestering juries in the strongest terms possible, it's going to make it.
00:12:54.000 Such a pain in the tail to be on a jury that everyone in their right mind is going to just try to get out of.
00:13:00.000 I mean, it's not as easy as you think to get out of it, though.
00:13:02.000 It was pretty easy.
00:13:03.000 Well, jury, I mean, look, there's little tricks you can say.
00:13:05.000 There's certain words you can say to get out of jury duty.
00:13:09.000 No, just be honest.
00:13:11.000 Yeah.
00:13:11.000 So, yeah.
00:13:12.000 I mean, people, I think most jury duty you're going to get is going to be something super minor and not going to take a lot of your time.
00:13:20.000 Like, most jury duty you'd ever get is not going to be a multi week long.
00:13:26.000 High profile TV murder drama.
00:13:28.000 It's going to be like a dude who claims he didn't actually speed and it's his third infraction.
00:13:34.000 So his license is getting suspended for three months or whatever.
00:13:37.000 So he's fighting it and crushing a jury.
00:13:39.000 And you're going to sit down for like an hour and they're going to be like, here's the camera showing that he was speeding.
00:13:43.000 It's going to be like, that camera don't prove nothing.
00:13:45.000 And you're going to be like, guys, can we go home?
00:13:46.000 He was speeding.
00:13:47.000 Oh man.
00:13:48.000 Like, I remember when I was growing up, my dad had an awesome one.
00:13:50.000 Like, you can't obviously see the details, but basically it was just this person was representing themselves, the defendant, and they were like totally insane.
00:13:57.000 And it lasted for like three weeks.
00:13:59.000 This is in Memphis too.
00:14:00.000 It's going to be wacky and wild.
00:14:00.000 So you know.
00:14:02.000 And, like, I remember he would come home from jury duty and, like, hold court with the whole family, like, of what happened that day in the trial.
00:14:11.000 And it was, like, the most amazing thing ever.
00:14:13.000 So that would be kind of sad if we moved on to bench trials, is, you know, everyone seems to have, like, a funny jury duty.
00:14:18.000 I mean, yeah, my mom sat on a multi week murder trial in McKinney, and she wouldn't tell my dad anything.
00:14:24.000 And he was, like, going insane.
00:14:27.000 She's like, no, I can't tell you anything until it's over.
00:14:28.000 Well, good for her.
00:14:29.000 Yeah.
00:14:30.000 That's how it should be.
00:14:31.000 Absolutely.
00:14:32.000 You know, when I was younger, I was like, man, I'd love to be on a jury.
00:14:35.000 And actually, from what I've heard from friends, actually very hard to get on jury duty.
00:14:38.000 That's what I was saying.
00:14:39.000 It's like people think it's hard to get off.
00:14:41.000 No, it's actually hard to be on jury duty.
00:14:42.000 I think like Ian was telling us about it recently that they brought him in and then they were like, you're dismissed.
00:14:46.000 And they all left without a word.
00:14:48.000 Yeah.
00:14:48.000 I mean, I imagine for people that have any sort of profile and they're clocked as political, they just immediately look them up and say, okay, you can go home.
00:14:55.000 This is also what's getting really crazy because everyone is an influencer.
00:14:59.000 And I say this with the utmost disdain for all podcasts.
00:15:02.000 And I, you know, I want to stress this to everybody listening.
00:15:05.000 When I tweet things like ban being an influencer, People go, you're an influencer.
00:15:09.000 I know.
00:15:10.000 I am aware.
00:15:11.000 Make it all stop.
00:15:12.000 Everyone can go away, and I will go fishing and live in a shed down by the river.
00:15:18.000 I have a family now, so the van's not going to cut it.
00:15:19.000 It takes one to know one.
00:15:21.000 My point is I'm like scrolling the carousel earlier today, and I see this woman, and she's like a fitness person with 2,000 followers, and she's like, stop.
00:15:29.000 Don't keep scrolling.
00:15:30.000 Like, you're on my page.
00:15:31.000 I'm trying so hard to find an audience.
00:15:33.000 And I'm just like, stop.
00:15:35.000 Go break rocks for a living.
00:15:36.000 I don't care.
00:15:37.000 It is insane that everybody wants to be an influencer.
00:15:40.000 That being said, Every single person is an influencer.
00:15:43.000 No matter how few followers they have, they're like, I have 100 people watching me.
00:15:47.000 I'm going to dance and shake my ass.
00:15:49.000 Now you're going to go to jury duty.
00:15:50.000 We can look up every one of these people and see what they're posting.
00:15:55.000 And how much longer until we can see what they're looking at?
00:15:58.000 Right.
00:15:59.000 When the judge is like, you're supposed to be sequestered, so we put in a request to Meta and we've got the list of all the things you are staring at.
00:16:06.000 We can actually, with the front facing camera and with how long you're on the screen, they know how long you watch things.
00:16:13.000 Exactly.
00:16:14.000 So it's going to be weird.
00:16:14.000 Take your phones away in some circumstances, though.
00:16:16.000 They should lock them in boxes.
00:16:18.000 Yeah.
00:16:18.000 Yeah.
00:16:19.000 It wasn't Josh Clemens.
00:16:20.000 Josh Clemens is great, but it was someone else.
00:16:20.000 It was someone.
00:16:22.000 But they laid out the entire case of why it is impossible to find someone in the United States that is truly untouched by the internet.
00:16:27.000 And this is what's so annoying, kind of like a side note you see these people, they're usually left wing, and they're like, yeah, whatever you believe, normal people think that's weird.
00:16:37.000 Normal people would think you're a total weirdo, as if they have some sort of normy oracle that's completely untouched by the internet.
00:16:42.000 It's like, that doesn't exist anymore.
00:16:45.000 Every single person.
00:16:47.000 Knows what like Floyd means.
00:16:48.000 Everyone knows what you'll see, like random people that can tell you what looks maxing means and like give you different aspects of like what that entails.
00:16:55.000 Nothing is untouched by the internet anymore.
00:16:56.000 So, again, like this idea that you can find like a truly impartial jury that's going to like have zero bias whatsoever is just utterly ridiculous.
00:17:03.000 Probably even with the most banal cases, people are still going to have some sort of reason to be slightly partisan.
00:17:08.000 I mean, there's another thing.
00:17:08.000 Yeah.
00:17:10.000 John Doyle was talking about this on his show, I think yesterday, but like it used to be like a jury of your peers meant something.
00:17:18.000 It meant something different than it means today, right?
00:17:21.000 Like, definitely, you have a jury of people that are like minded, probably from the same social class, you know, so that way they understand you better than, you know, better than the average person.
00:17:36.000 But nowadays, a jury of your peers just means any schmo that gets brought in doesn't matter where, you know, doesn't matter what social class they are, doesn't matter how much money they have, they're your peers.
00:17:49.000 And it's like, look, man.
00:17:51.000 There's a lot of people that don't make a ton of money.
00:17:54.000 That if they find out the person that is actually on trial makes a lot of money, they're gonna be like, guilty.
00:18:03.000 Or I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that are wealthy that don't like poor people and they'll look at a guy that was down on his luck and something happens.
00:18:11.000 It was either kind of in the wrong place at the wrong time or maybe broke a law and they're just like, he's a vagrant, he should go to jail.
00:18:18.000 Like, you have to have some kind of, a jury of your peers is more than just another citizen of America.
00:18:28.000 And it's like that's.
00:18:30.000 Well, and I think on that note, I mean, we really need our moral compass is broken.
00:18:37.000 Let's face it, you know.
00:18:39.000 I just remember, you know, when I was of age to be on jury duty, I couldn't wait.
00:18:48.000 I was praying that I would be on jury duty.
00:18:52.000 But now we have sort of a broken moral compass.
00:18:55.000 So people, where's their integrity, their ethics, their morals?
00:19:03.000 Their common sense, their sense of right versus wrong.
00:19:07.000 People are easily swayed.
00:19:10.000 They're easily indoctrinated, as we have seen, and they're easily bought.
00:19:16.000 I mean, look at our own leadership, if you will.
00:19:20.000 Let's take Congress first and foremost.
00:19:24.000 It's palpable.
00:19:26.000 So people look to people that are supposed to be governing us.
00:19:30.000 And I'm not trying to blast on Congress too much.
00:19:36.000 It's fine.
00:19:37.000 But they do deserve a little bit of feedback here because I'm sorry, where are the morals, ethics?
00:19:47.000 You took an oath for a reason to serve the people as a civil servant, and they are out there acting like rock stars.
00:19:57.000 You know, they're getting money under the table, whatever the case may be.
00:20:02.000 Whatever is floating their own particular personal agenda boat, if you will.
00:20:08.000 So, I think that's sort of emanating throughout the country.
00:20:15.000 And that's why I don't, I think it's going to be very hard to find impartial juries.
00:20:21.000 And even if you do get partial, decent jurors, somebody's going to get to them.
00:20:29.000 I mean, so I agree.
00:20:31.000 They need to be like in a box in Antarctica for a week, if you will.
00:20:38.000 Literally, know nothing about what's going on anywhere.
00:20:43.000 I just really hope that we can change hearts and minds and people start looking within and just learning right from wrong, period.
00:20:51.000 Well, speaking of that, let's jump to the next story from the New York Post.
00:20:55.000 Federal investigators met with Tish James Whistleblower, who claimed he was pushed to dig up dirt on Trump.
00:21:01.000 It's actually that simple.
00:21:03.000 He was working for this woman, Chimiso Maswoswe.
00:21:07.000 Let me give you the quick version of events.
00:21:10.000 This Chimiso woman, apparently, she worked for the DOJ, she got fired from the DOJ.
00:21:16.000 When Biden gets in, he agrees to pay her, let me find the actual $795,000.
00:21:26.000 She was, a year before this, she's hired by Letitia James.
00:21:30.000 So again, fired by Trump, hired by Tish James, gets a settlement from Biden for $800,000, and then is instructed to dig up dirt on Trump for the purpose of going after him politically.
00:21:43.000 This is where we've been.
00:21:44.000 And Trump, mind you.
00:21:46.000 He was not in office and they were still going after him.
00:21:49.000 They tried putting me down because they knew he would run and win again.
00:21:53.000 So, when we talk about the current state of American politics, can you guys just explain to me what happens to a country when you have, again, a woman gets fired, gets hired by a political enemy, starts digging up dirt on the man who was the front runner for the presidential election, gets paid $800,000 in a settlement by the opposition political party's government?
00:22:16.000 What's happening in this country?
00:22:17.000 What is this?
00:22:18.000 Banana Republic?
00:22:21.000 That's a compliment at this point.
00:22:22.000 I mean, the Banana Republic implies there's some kind of industry that keeps together.
00:22:27.000 Yeah.
00:22:28.000 I mean, this is just more evidence of kind of something that everyone kind of has already processed and gotten to the place where they're like, all right, we know this happened and we know nothing's going to happen because of it.
00:22:43.000 Yeah.
00:22:44.000 And I mean, that's a shame, but that really is kind of because of the speed of the.
00:22:51.000 The news and information, like people have already kind of processed it.
00:22:57.000 They've already let out their anger about it and frustration about it.
00:23:01.000 And it only goes towards more cynicism.
00:23:05.000 And I think that's a fairly major problem.
00:23:08.000 People are just like, ah, nothing ever happens.
00:23:10.000 Nothing's going to happen.
00:23:10.000 Nothing's going to change.
00:23:12.000 This is the way it is now.
00:23:14.000 It's not a good thing, but I think that that's kind of where a lot of people are at.
00:23:19.000 So, what happens when Democrats take power again?
00:23:21.000 I mean, We saw what they were willing to do in the past 10 years.
00:23:24.000 What do you think they're going to do for us?
00:23:26.000 That's an understatement.
00:23:27.000 The witch hunts were 10 years ago.
00:23:29.000 We just can't let that happen.
00:23:30.000 We absolutely can't.
00:23:31.000 We have to energize people that are apathetic and thinking nothing ever happens.
00:23:36.000 Look, so much has been exposed and it's being exposed daily.
00:23:42.000 To me, that's a win.
00:23:45.000 There's just so much of it, but at least it's waking people up that we're not even aware of.
00:23:52.000 There is a big silent majority, I firmly believe, even in my own district, that are going to remain silent, not say what they truly feel, but are definitely against the radical agenda that we're seeing playing out by the Democratic Party.
00:24:11.000 So they're going to keep silent because they're afraid of them.
00:24:14.000 They're absolutely terrified of their own party.
00:24:18.000 So I do believe there's hope.
00:24:20.000 I'm going to throw in a little hope, hopium there, if you will.
00:24:25.000 But yeah, there's just so much of it.
00:24:27.000 I mean, I would love to see the DOJ hire 200,000 more investigators and prosecutors.
00:24:35.000 Not that I'm a pro, let's just throw everybody in jail.
00:24:38.000 I'm not on that side of the fence either.
00:24:40.000 If a crime has been committed.
00:24:41.000 That definitely should not be walking the streets, that should not be in office, that have committed serious crimes that have harmed our nation.
00:24:52.000 Yeah, and again, it has made people.
00:24:55.000 You know, more cynical, which I think is that's the worst thing about it is when people are more cynical and more, you know, copycat.
00:25:01.000 Like, well, geez, if they can do it, then sure, I'm gonna do it too.
00:25:05.000 Yeah, I mean, the future doesn't look very bright for anyone that's, uh, you know, been a stalwart supporter of the uh, the Trump administration.
00:25:15.000 And it, of course, the Democrats, I, in my opinion, the Democrats are going to use whatever means they can to come after you know, people that have been in media or what have you promoting Trump or or promoting you know, uh, MAGA agenda or what have you.
00:25:31.000 But more than that, they're going to go after the average person.
00:25:35.000 They're going to find a handful of people to make into examples because when you see people on TV or you see people that are pundits or what have you, when they're getting hauled up in front of Congress or they end up getting trumped up charges and thrown in jail, it's one thing.
00:25:56.000 But when they go after like Tom down the street that makes memes and had a big following on X, but other than that, he goes to work every day at the car dealership or what have you.
00:26:10.000 That's when people are like, oh, it could happen to me if I step out of line.
00:26:15.000 And it's far more important to make an example of the average, of a handful of the average everyday people than it is people that are, you know, pundits or what have you.
00:26:26.000 Because that kind of stuff is what makes the average people, the majority of people think, oh, they're going to come after everybody.
00:26:34.000 So I better fall in line.
00:26:36.000 Maybe I won't vote that way or maybe I won't talk about politics, my personal politics with other people.
00:26:42.000 Well, it's a fair amount.
00:26:43.000 It's communism, basically.
00:26:44.000 It's the number one rule.
00:26:47.000 Get people in line, get them fearful.
00:26:51.000 Because government is your God and control is what we're all about.
00:26:55.000 So we don't want you speaking out.
00:26:58.000 So, yeah.
00:27:01.000 Kate's doomed.
00:27:02.000 He's a plan truster.
00:27:03.000 Well, I'm just.
00:27:04.000 Yeah, that's certainly the case.
00:27:06.000 Yeah, I'm just trying to ruminate.
00:27:08.000 Shamisa Maswosue was her name.
00:27:11.000 I'm trying to place.
00:27:11.000 Shamiso.
00:27:12.000 I'm trying to place where that is.
00:27:13.000 I mean, I think maybe.
00:27:15.000 Like Southern Africa, like Zambia or Zimbabwe might be where you'd hear that name.
00:27:20.000 I'm just like, I've just been thinking about that the whole time.
00:27:22.000 Like, that's such an interesting name.
00:27:24.000 I was having trouble placing it.
00:27:25.000 I'd be curious.
00:27:26.000 Well, I mean, you know, it's not really a surprise considering Letitia James was running on I'm going to get Trump.
00:27:32.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely.
00:27:34.000 The fact that, and the fact that the electorate finds that acceptable, right?
00:27:41.000 I like to think that there was a time where if someone was running, For any kind of public office, specifically saying that the reason they're running is so they can imprison a politician.
00:27:54.000 Right.
00:27:54.000 Who, whether or not you like them, the charges that she brought up on Trump, they were bogus.
00:28:04.000 Like the Leticia James stuff, the real estate dealings, they were all trumped up bullshit charges.
00:28:12.000 And to run an entire campaign saying, we're going to get him, we're going to find something.
00:28:18.000 I mean, that's not how our system is supposed to work.
00:28:20.000 It's not supposed to be show me the man and I'll show you the crime.
00:28:22.000 Yeah, look at Alvin Bragg.
00:28:24.000 Yeah.
00:28:25.000 I mean, and there was a time where that would turn voters off.
00:28:29.000 We are in a totally different world now.
00:28:31.000 There are going to be people, you know, that are going to be running, you know, in 28 that say, once Trump's out of office, put me in and we'll get him.
00:28:40.000 Put me in and we'll get him because they did it last time and a lot of people were elected because of it.
00:28:45.000 So it's a bad, bad situation.
00:28:47.000 I just, I really do have a sense that, um, That they're the Democrat, you know, Communist Party, as I like to call them now.
00:28:58.000 Certainly, in Maryland, I speak from the state of Maryland, so, you know, they talk a big game and they're so populist.
00:29:10.000 They're not.
00:29:11.000 They are very, very good at their optics and getting their activists loud and make it seem as if they have this huge.
00:29:22.000 Support system.
00:29:24.000 Well, certainly in the state of Maryland, and I'm not going to just speak about Maryland because it's happening everywhere.
00:29:30.000 The radical Democrats won all the primaries.
00:29:34.000 The radicals, not the moderates, because we, again, I have no problem with the Democratic Party.
00:29:39.000 It's what we're dealing with now, which is a far left radical, communistic acting party.
00:29:48.000 But they're campaigning all over the state.
00:29:51.000 I mean, it's all over the country, I should say, with people whose ideologies have no place in America.
00:30:00.000 We have people in Congress.
00:30:02.000 Their ideologies have zero place in the United States of America.
00:30:06.000 Anybody that's running for Congress that holds any ideologies that are anti American value driven should not be eligible to run for office, period.
00:30:18.000 So that's why I believe we fill, we get rid of incumbents.
00:30:23.000 Hopefully, this is my biggest issue the fraud that happens, but get the incumbents out, get America First candidates in, period.
00:30:34.000 Restore the Congress to the best of our ability, keep the House.
00:30:39.000 We have to keep the House in the midterms.
00:30:42.000 We just have to.
00:30:43.000 And then build from there and let the Democratic Party see what their party has become once we are in power again with those that are honoring the oath and not just gatekeepers for their own personal.
00:31:05.000 I want to play this clip from Bill Maher's show with Mike Rowe, where they break down socialism.
00:31:11.000 In it, he explains why so many of these people are socialist and it ain't the working class.
00:31:15.000 I shared your monologue from last week.
00:31:17.000 Oh, yeah.
00:31:21.000 I thought it was really important because you didn't accuse anybody of anything, really.
00:31:29.000 You quoted.
00:31:29.000 Just quoted.
00:31:30.000 Yeah.
00:31:31.000 So I put this up on my little page, and I wrote what I wrote, and we have over 200,000.
00:31:38.000 Comments on this thing.
00:31:40.000 You hit something that's so primal right now.
00:31:46.000 And for me, I don't really have a dog in the big socialism hunt specifically, but I've got one in workforce.
00:31:54.000 And when I look at four or 500,000 open jobs, and then I look at those seven million able bodied men not even looking at the jobs at all, and then I look at this whole conversation on spooling, I don't know if you saw this, but the stat that got me.
00:32:11.000 Within the Democratic Party right now, 59% of Democrats who support socialism have college degrees.
00:32:23.000 40% who support socialism don't.
00:32:27.000 So, this thing that's being called a worker uprising, it's really not.
00:32:35.000 It's not.
00:32:36.000 This is happening because a lot of people with a really expensive credential are in the hole in a big way, and they're pissed.
00:32:45.000 And I don't blame them, honestly.
00:32:47.000 I mean, we can say what you want about it, but they took our advice, man.
00:32:53.000 They took our advice.
00:32:54.000 We said, borrow whatever it takes, go follow your dream, and then go get your dream job.
00:33:02.000 And that was a bunch of nonsense.
00:33:03.000 Yeah, they don't want to borrow money to get a degree for a job that doesn't exist.
00:33:07.000 And I don't want to lend them money that they'll never be able to pay back to get their credential for the job that they want.
00:33:15.000 Indeed.
00:33:17.000 So, this is a point that we brought up quite a bit, and it's why you hear some of these socialists demand debt forgiveness.
00:33:23.000 It's probably their number one issue.
00:33:25.000 The only real issue they have is that they owe money and they don't want to pay it back.
00:33:30.000 Now, I think it's fair to say Micro's correct.
00:33:34.000 Everybody was screaming in my face, You got to go to college.
00:33:38.000 I did the math.
00:33:39.000 It made no sense.
00:33:41.000 I was genuinely, I went online, I was 16, and I was like reading all about all the college stuff.
00:33:44.000 And I was just like, Why do people keep saying this?
00:33:46.000 Like, I'm reading financial reports, $40,000 in debt, $30,000 in debt.
00:33:51.000 How are you going to pay that off working at Starbucks?
00:33:54.000 So I was like, I'm not going.
00:33:55.000 That's insane.
00:33:57.000 And so the issue now is these people have degrees.
00:33:59.000 There's no guarantee you'll get a job with the degree you have.
00:34:02.000 There's no guarantee that the job you get will pay you enough to pay off those debts.
00:34:06.000 So these people entered the workforce as full grown adults with no work experience, with debt they can't pay off.
00:34:14.000 And for that reason, they're going, someone else should pay my bills.
00:34:17.000 That's why they're voting DSA.
00:34:19.000 You eliminate, this is why I think we should freeze the interest rates.
00:34:23.000 Anyone who's paid back more than the principal, their debt is cleared and they get a tax credit for everything beyond the principal they paid.
00:34:31.000 And for everybody else, you must pay your principal back.
00:34:35.000 Interest, we can freeze.
00:34:36.000 That's the kind of forgiveness.
00:34:38.000 That's the compromise.
00:34:39.000 Gen Z needs to be able to buy houses, buy homes, have families.
00:34:43.000 And they can't do it if they can't afford to do it.
00:34:46.000 Like, this is why young men, a lot of these guys, they're just, there's no light at the end of the tunnel.
00:34:51.000 They're not in the short term, they won't make enough money to have a family to buy a house to do anything, especially with their debt.
00:34:57.000 So, you know what they say?
00:34:59.000 Well, if I'm down here and everyone else is up here, I wouldn't mind bringing them down a peg or two.
00:35:04.000 So they vote for socialists.
00:35:05.000 They vote to burn it all down because they're like, look, if I can't have it, why should anybody else?
00:35:08.000 Yeah, I think, like, I think Micro has a point, obviously.
00:35:13.000 And I think there's a lot of salience there.
00:35:15.000 But also, I don't know if that's good messaging for Republicans.
00:35:18.000 For people that are entertaining socialism, the message to be, oh, no, you're just not playing the system correctly.
00:35:25.000 The system works perfectly fine, and you just must be not navigating it correctly.
00:35:29.000 That's why you're entertaining socialism.
00:35:32.000 That's just not a winning message.
00:35:34.000 Vance understands this.
00:35:35.000 I mean, Vance has been trying to sort of get into the head of someone that is sort of entertaining socialism.
00:35:40.000 And yes, while some of them are just truly these like pampered, you know, yuckies, as we call them, these young urban creatives, I think a good chunk of these people just feel tremendous economic insecurity.
00:35:55.000 They're very doubtful that they have any future in the country.
00:35:58.000 They certainly don't understand or see any way that they're going to sort of have any stake in the country.
00:36:03.000 And so, yeah, to Tim's second point, I think they're just thinking, well, you know, I'd rather just sort of.
00:36:07.000 Tear the system apart rather than continue to participate in it if I'm not receiving an ROI.
00:36:12.000 So I think two things are kind of true here.
00:36:15.000 Is one, yes, young people maybe have like poor economic behaviors, fiscal behaviors, maybe not as fiscally responsible, but also it is a pretty horrific, it's pretty horrific economic conditions.
00:36:32.000 And I think that's why, and to Tim's point, I think that that's why something from the Republicans, now granted, Congress.
00:36:32.000 Yeah, it is.
00:36:40.000 Is unreliable in getting Republicans get on board with any kind of anything that might consider, you know, forgiveness of loans or whatever.
00:36:50.000 Like, that's not something that the Republicans are likely to get on.
00:36:54.000 But if they really want to actually pull people away from the left, from the communist, you know, influence and stuff, be like, all right, look, you guys got into a bad situation with your debt, but it is worth admitting, or it's important to admit that, like, This was told to you by your elders, and we basically did you wrong, right?
00:37:17.000 We told you go to school, get a job, spend all this money.
00:37:21.000 Now, maybe you went and got a BS degree.
00:37:23.000 That's possible.
00:37:25.000 Fine, fair enough.
00:37:26.000 But when you are in a situation where you can't get out from under your loans because you've paid your principal and you're still paying on interest and the payments keep going up every month or six months or whatever, like you need some way out of that.
00:37:46.000 And if they just freeze the interest rates and say, okay, pay off the principal, that would at least alleviate some of the stress.
00:37:54.000 And then Republicans could say, look, we are doing something for young people.
00:37:58.000 That's the message Republicans should have right now for the midterms.
00:38:01.000 Trump should come out and say, and he can say, I think Vance might be the messenger for this because Trump, you know, I don't know if he can convey it.
00:38:01.000 Yeah.
00:38:09.000 But if Vance came out and said, one of the problems we have in this country, and he can do it in the perfect Vance style, is that our young people are struggling and everyone acknowledges this.
00:38:18.000 Now, we've heard a lot of people say they want to just cancel and wipe out student loan debt, but that puts the burden on the working class.
00:38:25.000 And some of these people actually are doing well.
00:38:27.000 So we don't want high income earners to get paid.
00:38:31.000 Tax to get relief, debt relief from the working class, that's not fair.
00:38:35.000 That's not, that's asking the working class to pay more than their fair share.
00:38:40.000 If we say we will suspend the interest rates, I like that.
00:38:43.000 You only need to pay back what you borrowed from this point forward.
00:38:46.000 And if you are overpaid, we will erase that debt and any overpayment goes towards as a tax credit.
00:38:54.000 So, what that means is for people who have taken out $40,000 in loans but paid back $50,000 and still owe $30,000, Wiped clean, you've already overpaid, and we're going to apply $10K towards your federal tax, which means a bigger refund for you at the end of the year.
00:39:08.000 They do that, they win the midterms.
00:39:10.000 Now, to be fair, Democrats can still come out and go, What?
00:39:13.000 We'll just cancel it for no reason.
00:39:15.000 And I got to be honest, free money is a winning platform.
00:39:19.000 Yeah, well, and there's about $120 billion of federal endowments, contracts, grants, et cetera, for universities floating around there.
00:39:27.000 $40 billion of that, let's just be gratuitous here.
00:39:30.000 Let's just say $40 billion of that is allocated correctly.
00:39:33.000 That still puts $80 billion basically up for grabs if he sees endowments.
00:39:37.000 And if you distribute that into some sort of fund that just goes right back into student loan relief, find people that are just completely underwater, give them a leg up, that goes a long way.
00:39:46.000 There's something about injecting money into someone's bank account that really buys you.
00:39:50.000 It really curries you a lot of favor.
00:39:51.000 I mean, I spoke to a lot of people who saw the stimulus checks during COVID as a game changer, and that really goes a long way.
00:39:59.000 And I mean, honestly, look, Trump should come out and say, I'm calling on Congress.
00:40:04.000 You know what he can do?
00:40:06.000 The oil that we've received from Venezuela has been a windfall for the United States.
00:40:11.000 Our economy is doing very good.
00:40:14.000 So we will be giving a dividend to the American people.
00:40:18.000 And I am calling on Congress to vote and pass this right now.
00:40:22.000 And then when the Democrats block it, the Republicans come out and be like, we're literally trying to give you guys $1,000 from the oil surplus from Venezuela.
00:40:31.000 They're not letting us.
00:40:32.000 That's a message for the midterms.
00:40:34.000 But they're going on recess till the end of the month.
00:40:36.000 Yeah.
00:40:37.000 Okay, maybe fine.
00:40:38.000 October.
00:40:39.000 27th, Trump can come out and be like, My new Trump dividend.
00:40:42.000 We're going to put my name on it.
00:40:44.000 You get a $1,000 Trump bill in the mail.
00:40:46.000 It's a new bill.
00:40:47.000 It's $1,000 with Trump's face, and it works.
00:40:49.000 Do that, and you will gain two or three points.
00:40:52.000 Let's roll.
00:40:52.000 And, you know, as far as conservatives go, like, the institutions like Harvard and these schools with these big endowments and stuff like that, they're no friends to conservatives.
00:41:04.000 You're not like, it's not like you have to worry about, you know, pissing off people that are going to, Vote for you.
00:41:10.000 Like, they're not voting for you, anyways.
00:41:12.000 They're literally grooming communists.
00:41:14.000 They're making communists at these institutions.
00:41:18.000 Well, that's another thing.
00:41:19.000 I mean, don't forget, whenever we talk about socialism in any form, socialism is just under the umbrella of Marxism, which is the umbrella of communism.
00:41:30.000 It's all the same thing.
00:41:31.000 It's all the same.
00:41:32.000 Socialism is wrapped in a pretty bow.
00:41:34.000 We're going to give you some money.
00:41:35.000 So I love what you said about the interest rate.
00:41:37.000 That I can deal with.
00:41:39.000 Everything else, no.
00:41:40.000 Yeah, because.
00:41:41.000 Not because we're, you know, there are plenty of students here on visas and whatever.
00:41:48.000 Oh, no, we're only talking about Americans.
00:41:50.000 We're only talking about Americans.
00:41:50.000 Oh, God.
00:41:52.000 If you're a foreign student.
00:41:53.000 That is your problem.
00:41:55.000 You can't vote.
00:41:56.000 We don't care.
00:41:56.000 We're not true.
00:41:57.000 Pay your bills.
00:41:59.000 Whatever.
00:41:59.000 Go home.
00:42:00.000 Student visas.
00:42:01.000 We're only talking about Americans.
00:42:03.000 Again, I agree with what Tim said.
00:42:05.000 So that's all I was trying to do.
00:42:07.000 Yeah.
00:42:07.000 I mean, my estimate for $40 billion is there are some universities that, whether we like it or not, are still a bit of an asset.
00:42:16.000 I think the conversation, I mean, this would take decades to remedy, but the conversation should be expanded.
00:42:22.000 The scope of universities has gotten way too wide now, where universities used to be to get a liberal.
00:42:27.000 Like liberal arts in the truest sense of the term is like kind of why you would pursue a university degree.
00:42:33.000 And we should really like have an expansion of, you know, trade schools beyond just like, you know, physical, like blue collar trades, but like business, economics, et cetera.
00:42:44.000 Kind of create separate schools for that.
00:42:46.000 You actually see this a lot in Europe and have universities for like the elite.
00:42:51.000 Like that's functionally what they should be for is like the sort of how you cultivate an elite.
00:42:59.000 And then you can use the federal government to tamper with those universities and ensure that the elite are conservative.
00:43:03.000 I mean, there are schools, there's universities that do produce elite capital that are conservative.
00:43:10.000 Like the University of Chicago comes to mind, funny enough.
00:43:12.000 Their law school is infamously rather conservative.
00:43:15.000 George Mason comes to mind.
00:43:17.000 So you do have some like beachheads.
00:43:18.000 It's like reward those people.
00:43:20.000 Make it lucrative for a university to get rid of a lot of these.
00:43:24.000 Make it so lucrative that they just can't justify tolerating activists on their campus.
00:43:29.000 And like you will solve a lot of your problems.
00:43:30.000 Cut a lot of the fat that like provides steady income for the universities.
00:43:34.000 Like, my university and my alma mater, they added a nursing program.
00:43:37.000 Is it because they like had this sudden interest in like, you know, cultivating a medical alumni network?
00:43:43.000 No, it's because like nursing is just a huge cash cow and like they just understood that they're going to get like a reliable extra source of income.
00:43:49.000 So it's like you really need to like disincentivize these universities from like expanding the scope of what they offer.
00:43:54.000 Well, it's a disaster.
00:43:55.000 There's also a cultural element.
00:43:57.000 We're seeing woke rear its ugly head again, cancellations, all this nonsense.
00:44:02.000 It needs to be culturally.
00:44:05.000 Enforced when people do stupid things like set up a massive camp on a campus, destroy the grounds, and eat people up.
00:44:13.000 It should be like, oh, you did what?
00:44:15.000 Yeah, you'll never get hired again.
00:44:16.000 Yeah, you can quite literally, with all the problems, not all the problems, but a lot of the problems we have in American society, you can kind of just socially engineer your way out of it.
00:44:24.000 I mean, it's completely possible.
00:44:26.000 I mean, I think it was the last show I was on.
00:44:29.000 I was talking about ways you can kind of navigate out of the birth rate crunch that we're in.
00:44:33.000 I think his name is Spandril on Twitter.
00:44:35.000 He was talking about how you can basically allocate prime parking spots for pregnant women and women with children, these sorts of things.
00:44:44.000 You can use social engineering to curry favor for things that conservatives want to see happen in this country.
00:44:53.000 And this is another example there's things you can do to force these universities to A, be more tolerant of conservatives, and B, excise these activist elements.
00:45:05.000 Because that's ultimately the problem, these people.
00:45:08.000 These universities promote tolerate leftist activism, and then those people manage to pick up a college degree, and that gives them a lot of institutional credibility.
00:45:16.000 And then they can come into these institutions and take them over.
00:45:18.000 Well, if you cut it off at the root, it's going to solve a lot of problems.
00:45:23.000 And I mean, there's a lot of bright people working on this, but it's unfortunately like a couple decades long project.
00:45:27.000 You're not going to just, there's not like a fix all switch, but seizing endowments is a good start.
00:45:31.000 Yeah, I like that one.
00:45:32.000 That's Will Chamberlain.
00:45:34.000 Will Chamberlain's been on this for a while.
00:45:34.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:45:36.000 And again, it was at Anon, I forget his name, that said, well, we should just take those endowments, put it into a slush fund to like basically, because this is the thing that like, this is the thing that a lot of conservatives miss.
00:45:47.000 All across the Western hemisphere, from Orban to Trump, even, is you got to reward your voters.
00:45:53.000 You got to reward the American people with actual fiscal rewards.
00:45:57.000 This is what older empires understood, like the British empires.
00:46:00.000 If they ever won a war, if they ever see something, they would give goodies back home.
00:46:04.000 You know, one thing that I think Trump could do just before the midterms is he could, if we did a big event in DC, something fun, like a circus, and then when everyone comes, he can get artisan bread and just throw it out to the people.
00:46:18.000 He's like, I'm here for you.
00:46:20.000 I'm taking care of you in these hard times.
00:46:22.000 Yeah, I mean, like, if we're truly, you know, people are like, oh, Trump's like the first post liberal president.
00:46:26.000 Well, if that's true, like, let's behave post liberally.
00:46:29.000 Like, let's actually just bribe people to vote for him.
00:46:32.000 Like, seriously, the Democrats do this.
00:46:34.000 Exactly.
00:46:35.000 I was just going to say that, like, Democrats literally do that.
00:46:38.000 It's like, if you vote for me, I will make sure that your group gets some kind of benefits from the government.
00:46:46.000 Joe Biden's entire reasoning for why he said Mitt Romney's going to put you back in chains is because he was, like, threatening to, like, Cut welfare benefits.
00:46:53.000 Like, it's like they admit it like all the time that, like, they quite literally just bribe people to vote Democrat.
00:46:59.000 And you can't, like, don't hate the player, hate the game.
00:47:01.000 Like, if you want, if you truly want to break the system, right?
00:47:03.000 Like, a lot of people say they do.
00:47:04.000 If you truly want to, like, escape from this liberal, like, you know, social liberal hellscape that we're in, like, you kind of just got to play ball.
00:47:13.000 You got to throw your hat in the ring and start quite literally just bribing your voters, like, providing direct insight.
00:47:17.000 Bribing your voters.
00:47:18.000 Yeah.
00:47:19.000 You got to give them.
00:47:20.000 Who had that quote, that famous quote where he says something like, democracy will stand up until.
00:47:25.000 People realize they can promise the public coffers for votes or something like that.
00:47:31.000 Yeah, it was very sad.
00:47:33.000 I'll look it up.
00:47:36.000 I think I know who it is, but I'm not certain.
00:47:39.000 Yeah, like democracy can only work with a very narrow demographic.
00:47:42.000 And as the demographics get more and more diverse, it becomes increasingly unlikely that everyone can put aside their biases, put aside their identity interests, and actually be pragmatic.
00:47:52.000 It's just completely impossible.
00:47:53.000 Lee Kuan Yew recognized this right away when he took over in Singapore and just basically.
00:47:58.000 He kind of put some democratic window dressing, some democratic characteristics, aesthetics, but he governed very directly.
00:48:08.000 It was de Tocqueville who said the American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.
00:48:14.000 Yeah.
00:48:15.000 Yeah.
00:48:15.000 Who was that?
00:48:16.000 Tocqueville.
00:48:17.000 Well, it's attributed to de Tocqueville.
00:48:21.000 The statement is actually a variant of a statement, frugally thought so falsely, attributed to Scottish academic Alexander Fraser Tyler.
00:48:30.000 Yeah, I'm finding that too.
00:48:31.000 So.
00:48:31.000 Yeah.
00:48:32.000 So, I mean, you know, we're just not really in this moment where we can be like, we're going to win hearts and minds.
00:48:32.000 Yeah.
00:48:37.000 It's like, dude, that's just not how it works anymore.
00:48:40.000 No, that's why Democrats have been fighting to win a greater number of mail and belts.
00:48:40.000 Yeah.
00:48:45.000 Like, yeah.
00:48:45.000 Yeah.
00:48:46.000 Yeah.
00:48:46.000 Exactly.
00:48:47.000 All about the mail and belts.
00:48:49.000 And like Trump definitely understands a lot of this that like you can't really just depend on the American voter to be like won over anymore.
00:48:49.000 Yeah.
00:48:57.000 Like, you kind of do just have to provide direct incentives.
00:48:59.000 But like, we need to keep going down that, down that path.
00:49:02.000 Like, yep.
00:49:03.000 People don't, don't.
00:49:05.000 They're not rational.
00:49:06.000 They're not pragmatic anymore because the demographic that would be capable of behaving in such a manner is such a narrow demographic now.
00:49:16.000 This wasn't the case in the 18th century or 19th century, arguably even the first half of the 20th century, but we're here now.
00:49:22.000 We are barreling towards a governmental system of procedural power.
00:49:28.000 I don't know if you can call it communism, but it's certainly some kind of authoritarian system with no representation, no real democratic institutions.
00:49:35.000 And it's through, I wonder, a lot of people, they have the great replacement theory.
00:49:40.000 American workers, regardless of race, to all the wackaloo leftists, are being displaced by new migrants.
00:49:46.000 But I'm not sure that the issue is there's a lot of people who think it's like, oh, it's about replacing white people.
00:49:51.000 No, I think it's about destroying American identity and destroying cultural cohesion so that no one can ever vote as a unified bloc anymore.
00:49:58.000 And thus, no one can ever actually win political power.
00:50:01.000 Well, I think the importation of various groups from around the world actually creates this system where you have a wide array, a large menu of various ethnic interests that are all petitioning for certain benefits from the government.
00:50:17.000 And that's kind of the situation we're in.
00:50:19.000 Or if you look around the world, there's not a single case of like a successful multiracial or multiethnic democracy.
00:50:26.000 Basically, any country in the world now or historically that oversees large territory that is multiethnic, that is diverse, they're not a democracy.
00:50:35.000 They're typically quite authoritarian.
00:50:37.000 I mean, this has been the case with basically every empire in Europe that was overseeing a very diverse array of people.
00:50:43.000 They ruled from the top down, they didn't really give people a say because they correctly understood that all politics are derivative of identity politics.
00:50:50.000 Are you familiar with the, what is it, the allegory of the puddle?
00:50:53.000 I don't know if allegory is the right word.
00:50:55.000 There's a hole in the ground and it rains and the rain fills up.
00:50:58.000 And the puddle is in this hole.
00:51:01.000 The body of water looks around and says, Wow, this hole fits me perfectly.
00:51:07.000 It must have been made just for me.
00:51:10.000 When in reality, it's the water that filled to conform to the hole, not the other way around.
00:51:13.000 Now, this is often used as like evidence of evolution or something to that effect.
00:51:19.000 But I think it also does well with politics.
00:51:21.000 And that is, for a long time, the American people looked around and said, What do you mean?
00:51:25.000 Democracy works great in their 95% Christian nation where everybody adheres to the same moral standards and dress code.
00:51:33.000 And then that all started to change.
00:51:35.000 And now you still have people being like, democracy is great as you get Islamic enclaves with female genital mutilation and you get, you know, Islamic or, what do they call it?
00:51:47.000 They've got Sharia patrols in some areas, they've got Jewish patrols in other areas.
00:51:51.000 You've got Chinese police departments operating in the United States.
00:51:56.000 So this idea of like, Classical liberal democratic institutions work great, yes, when you have a socially enforced cultural structure.
00:52:05.000 Sure, yeah, everybody gets to vote when everybody's a Christian, right?
00:52:10.000 Once your culture starts breaking down, the Christians are shocked to find the Muslims are voting for things they don't like, yeah, yeah.
00:52:18.000 There's a core American population, and various people have assimilated into it.
00:52:24.000 I mean, like the sort of core of it, I would say, is like kind of this original Anglo Protestant identity that you find at the founding.
00:52:31.000 But a lot of people have folded into this.
00:52:32.000 I mean, Catholics that have been in this country for a long time, even their way that they kind of evaluate the world or conduct themselves is kind of reminiscent of that because they have assimilated into this kind of core American identity over time.
00:52:44.000 And this large group, which includes a lot of people, like once again, I'll repeat, a lot of people that have assimilated into this main kind of American identity aren't a unified voting block.
00:52:55.000 You see massive divergence in how they vote, they swing, et cetera.
00:52:59.000 But then you have all these various other groups that have not assimilated or are just never going to be part of this core American identity that do vote.
00:53:05.000 Basically, as a unified bloc, and in virtually every case, vote for the Democrat Party unless they get pissed off and they vote for the Republicans at a protest.
00:53:14.000 So, that's like my main concern is that as this country continues to grow, I mean, I guess what I'm trying to get at is I think this is why getting immigration under control is absolutely essential.
00:53:27.000 And the majority of Republicans understand this.
00:53:30.000 And actually, the issue that Trump pulls the best on is immigration.
00:53:32.000 I was reading through the Harvard Harris poll that came out, I think, yesterday.
00:53:36.000 And they had all the crosstabs route.
00:53:39.000 The one issue that Trump performs the best on is immigration.
00:53:42.000 47% of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing on immigration.
00:53:46.000 And this is after an all out blitz from the media, basically trying to tear apart his immigration agenda.
00:53:52.000 And so the fact that Americans are understanding that immigration is the issue indicates that they understand that once the population is kind of diluted, so to speak, like is less American than ever, then yeah, your liberties, your American republicanism is gone.
00:54:06.000 Let's jump to this next story from the Texas Tribune.
00:54:08.000 It looks like the Trump admin.
00:54:10.000 Is going after anchor babies.
00:54:14.000 This is a conflicted story.
00:54:15.000 I first heard of it because liberals were screaming, an American citizen has been deported.
00:54:20.000 And of course, I follow the news and I want to know, is this true?
00:54:24.000 The reality is typically when they say something outlandish like an American citizen was deported, it tends to be some caveat, like it turns out it's a Maryland father.
00:54:32.000 And then they're actually a gang member who was trafficking.
00:54:36.000 Trafficking people, yeah.
00:54:37.000 So in this instance, I decided to look this story up and sure enough, U.S. citizen Brian Jose Morales Garcia was allowed to return.
00:54:37.000 Right.
00:54:46.000 The story is that he was working on a construction site.
00:54:49.000 Cops or ICE raided it.
00:54:50.000 I think it might have been ICE.
00:54:52.000 Everybody gets wrapped up.
00:54:53.000 They ask him.
00:54:54.000 He says he's an American citizen.
00:54:55.000 He's got a birth certificate, a social security card.
00:54:56.000 He can prove it.
00:54:58.000 They deport him anyway.
00:54:59.000 He goes to Mexico where he's there for several months fighting to get back to the United States.
00:55:03.000 Finally, a court says yes, you can come back to the United States, but they are still challenging his status.
00:55:10.000 Now, here's the thing.
00:55:12.000 The guy was born in the US, and this is according to the reports.
00:55:15.000 You know, I may be wrong, but this is what the reports are saying.
00:55:17.000 He was born in the US, but immediately brought back to Mexico where he was raised.
00:55:22.000 He came to the United States after the fact, and it looks like I'm going to make this assumption that the Trump administration is going after this guy because they view this as a.
00:55:38.000 The challenge right now is birthright citizenship.
00:55:40.000 Your parents bring you here from Mexico.
00:55:42.000 Give birth and then leave right away.
00:55:44.000 You grew up in Mexico and now you get to just come to the United States.
00:55:47.000 That's what I think is at issue here.
00:55:50.000 It's a bit speculative, but what we can say is on the surface what we know.
00:55:55.000 They're trying to deport a guy who was born here but did not grow up here.
00:56:00.000 So what do you think that says?
00:56:03.000 Yeah, it's sorry, Phil.
00:56:05.000 It says that the administration is still going to try to put, you know, try to figure out some route to get people that are essentially anchor babies.
00:56:17.000 Out of the country because it's not like it is a bad situation to have people that are born here only because their parents got here for a moment and then taken out of the country, grown, uh, you know, raised in an entirely different country, different culture, different values.
00:56:37.000 People that are born in America and live here just see the world differently than people that are born in other countries and raised in other countries, and there's nothing.
00:56:50.000 Bad or mean about saying, look, we want people that are American citizens, we want them to have experienced growing up in America.
00:57:00.000 You shouldn't be, it shouldn't be legal to, you know, get here, have a baby, or maybe one of the, or take a tourist trip, you know, the birth tourism that goes on to some U.S. territory, to like to Guam or something.
00:57:16.000 That's something that's popular in China, if I understand correctly.
00:57:18.000 You hop on a plane, go to Guam, have your kid, and then fly back and you've got a U.S. citizen kid.
00:57:25.000 Like that is completely and totally, you know, against what the point of making sure that people that are born here are.
00:57:34.000 Get citizenship automatically.
00:57:36.000 Like that's totally important.
00:57:37.000 So, yeah, I think, you know, denaturalization is an interesting topic because in the United States, it's actually real interesting.
00:57:45.000 It's really interesting because in the United States, it's very rare.
00:57:47.000 It's exceptionally rare that we denaturalize citizens.
00:57:49.000 It has to be like over the top, egregious naturalization, like when you became a citizen after you're born.
00:57:58.000 As far as I know, we've never denaturalized a birthright citizen.
00:58:02.000 That's never happened.
00:58:03.000 For the just only on birthright.
00:58:05.000 Right, I believe you're right.
00:58:06.000 Like, we've only ever denaturalized people because the in every single instance is because we deemed that they concealed something when they were becoming a citizen and then we found out after the fact.
00:58:16.000 Britain, it's actually surprisingly somewhat common denaturalization.
00:58:20.000 Um, the most common uh denaturalization is Albanians and Britain.
00:58:24.000 And the reason this happened was because like in the 90s and 2000s, a lot of them presented themselves as Kosovo, Kosovans, Kosovoans, Kosovans, forget the denominator.
00:58:32.000 And uh, this came out later that no, they were from Albania and they acquired their citizenship, but they have a They have a precedent for denaturalizing people in Britain, which is they're no longer, or the reason for denaturalization is conducive to the public good.
00:58:47.000 And this is typically Muslims that are just committing terrorist attacks or whatever, and they denaturalize them.
00:58:53.000 That's an interesting precedent that I'd be interested in exploring in the United States, particularly on birthright citizenship.
00:59:00.000 If you can push this issue far enough, or even if you don't get a good Supreme Court ruling on birthright citizenship, which you already have, is if you can kind of push this idea that these are functionally paperwork Americans.
00:59:10.000 Then you can start exploring denaturalizing the worst of the worst, so to speak, like the people that are just committing an exorbitant amount of crime or people that have committed terrorist attacks, people whose presence in the country is not conducive to the public good.
00:59:23.000 I think if you can start making examples out of those people, you start to cement this idea in the American people's head that citizenship functionally has lost its value in many ways.
00:59:32.000 And honestly, the only thing that separates a green card holder from a citizen in the United States in 2026 is the fact that you can vote.
00:59:38.000 And who even really cares?
00:59:40.000 So I think you really need to push the envelope on this issue.
00:59:44.000 I don't know anything about this case or what this guy's been up to.
00:59:47.000 Yeah.
00:59:48.000 But it would be.
00:59:49.000 We really don't know, other than.
00:59:50.000 But there's very, very, I mean, you know, you could throw a rock in any direction in most of these states, and you will find examples of birthright citizens or, you know, paperwork Americans whose parents came in under fraudulent means that you could maybe explore.
01:00:05.000 You know, they weren't forthcoming or forthright that they were seven months pregnant when they came into the country and they came in, overstayed a visa, had their kid.
01:00:13.000 Then you can go and reevaluate it.
01:00:14.000 And I think that would.
01:00:15.000 Probably pass a sniff test for a lot of Americans.
01:00:17.000 They would probably be okay with starting to naturalize those people because that is a law we have on the books.
01:00:22.000 You can watch, there are TV shows from the 2000s where they follow along with customs agents in various countries.
01:00:29.000 And the United States gives instructions to these airlines that, hey, if a woman is a foreign national and she looks like she's nine months pregnant, she's not allowed to board this plane if she's coming in on a tourist visa.
01:00:43.000 And you can watch these TV shows and you can watch these gate agents tell these women, no, you're not allowed to travel today, you're too pregnant.
01:00:49.000 So, we have these laws on the books.
01:00:51.000 So, you're probably going to have to use AI.
01:00:54.000 Like, we're going to have to use some sort of data management system to determine.
01:00:58.000 Now, you just lost everybody in the training.
01:01:00.000 But it's like there's no other way we're going to be able to start denaturalizing a lot of these birthright citizens unless we can come up with an explanation of why we're denaturalizing them.
01:01:08.000 And the explanation is going to need to be the mom came here and she was illegal and had the child.
01:01:14.000 Therefore, we need to sort of denaturalize him because his mom shouldn't have been in the country because we're probably not going to get rid of birthright citizenship anytime soon.
01:01:23.000 I know Trump's trying to ram through EOs, but we can't depend on that.
01:01:27.000 We're going to have to get creative here.
01:01:29.000 Yeah.
01:01:30.000 I hope that was concise.
01:01:31.000 Well, I mean, you got your point across.
01:01:33.000 Yeah.
01:01:34.000 If by concise you mean verbose, it was very verbose.
01:01:38.000 There's a lot of meat to the argument.
01:01:40.000 Sorry, what time is it?
01:01:41.000 No, I'm too.
01:01:42.000 There's a lot of meat to the argument.
01:01:43.000 But I mean, look, I mean, obviously, you know, people that are regular viewers know my perspective is anything that we can do to get people that are either here illegally or that are here as like anchor babies.
01:01:58.000 If you are not actually raised as an American, you shouldn't be here.
01:02:03.000 Yeah, I guess what I was trying to get at is like we need to create a separate.
01:02:06.000 Legal classification for anchor babies.
01:02:08.000 It's not sufficient just to dub someone an anchor baby, but there needs to be some sort of precedent that says if your parents were in the country under fraudulent, they concealed some sort of information when they came here and they gave birth, your mom gave birth to you while you were here, your citizenship is up for evaluation.
01:02:22.000 That needs to be submitted.
01:02:24.000 This guy, his mom came here in 1999 when she was 19.
01:02:28.000 And in 2001, he was born in Denver.
01:02:31.000 She had another son and then went back to Mexico because her father was sick.
01:02:36.000 So they were born here to Mexico.
01:02:40.000 Does it say that?
01:02:41.000 We don't have any reporting on their legal status.
01:02:43.000 It just says that she moved to Denver.
01:02:46.000 She was working as a custodian.
01:02:48.000 Morales' father was born.
01:02:49.000 They were both born in Mexico.
01:02:50.000 They both met.
01:02:51.000 He was a cook.
01:02:53.000 And then she took the kids back to Mexico about a year after they were born.
01:02:56.000 So, I mean, this is where you're going to have to have like some large database in order to determine this sort of thing.
01:02:56.000 Yeah.
01:03:02.000 Like, we don't have the info.
01:03:04.000 Called entering the country legally.
01:03:06.000 I got an idea.
01:03:07.000 That's the database.
01:03:09.000 Well, we don't have the info.
01:03:09.000 Well, hold on.
01:03:10.000 One of the things that we know is that a lot of these people will like drive.
01:03:13.000 Through legally, but then just overstay.
01:03:15.000 Correct.
01:03:15.000 So, what if we set up a bunch of cameras that could track their license plates?
01:03:20.000 And then we would have a database just.
01:03:21.000 There you go.
01:03:23.000 Yeah.
01:03:24.000 Trackers on them.
01:03:24.000 Well, I mean, like.
01:03:25.000 And actually, I mean, yeah.
01:03:27.000 You know, I made my.
01:03:29.000 I came out anti flock.
01:03:30.000 And I think a lot of people were shocked by that because I've been shilling for data centers.
01:03:33.000 But.
01:03:34.000 Yeah, I don't understand why people can't, like.
01:03:37.000 I'm going to say it.
01:03:38.000 Everybody is lying about everything all the time.
01:03:41.000 That's just it.
01:03:42.000 Yeah.
01:03:43.000 And I don't mean literally everybody.
01:03:44.000 I'm saying there are a lot of people that are.
01:03:46.000 They're influencers.
01:03:47.000 They're not in politics.
01:03:49.000 I would argue that, I don't know, what's a ballpark figure you guys might think?
01:03:53.000 Half of the political people you think are actually just influencers, meaning they get paid to promote soda pop.
01:04:00.000 They're like, the government wants to stop welfare recipients from drinking Coca Cola.
01:04:04.000 That's wrong.
01:04:05.000 Also, we should be friends with India.
01:04:07.000 They're so paid, way more than half.
01:04:09.000 I know many people that came on to social media platforms with good intentions and didn't care if they had 50.
01:04:19.000 Followers and would hold spaces on X.
01:04:23.000 And you saw the minute they turn because now they've got millions of followers and tons of money.
01:04:29.000 Well, it's not so much about how they gain followers.
01:04:32.000 It's if you gain followers, you can make money.
01:04:34.000 It's that a lot of these people.
01:04:35.000 So someone reached out to our team saying that they had been offered money to promote flock cameras and they turned it down.
01:04:40.000 We also have the post from Alex Stein where he said he was offered money to travel to Poland from Miriam Adelson's group to go to the Holocaust Museum and stuff.
01:04:47.000 He turned that down.
01:04:49.000 I have no problem with ads.
01:04:51.000 We do ads.
01:04:51.000 None whatsoever.
01:04:52.000 We do ads all the time.
01:04:53.000 Oh, and I love it.
01:04:54.000 I reject sponsors all the time.
01:04:56.000 Yeah, I'm sure because you're a decent person.
01:04:58.000 Well, I mean, we've been offered like four GLP1 companies to promote like crazy money.
01:05:05.000 And I just, it was really funny.
01:05:06.000 We got offered one GLP ad, and I told our guys at Rumble, I was like, yeah, no, they don't want to do this.
01:05:12.000 And they were like, no, no, they really do.
01:05:13.000 They love the show.
01:05:14.000 They want you to promote it.
01:05:15.000 They don't watch the show.
01:05:15.000 And I was like, that's a lie.
01:05:17.000 I was like, if they watched the show, they'd have heard what I said about GLP1s and they would not want it.
01:05:22.000 And it's like, okay, well, I mean, you don't have to do it.
01:05:24.000 And I'm like, I won't do ads for GLP1.
01:05:27.000 At this point, I don't know if they'd want me to do ads.
01:05:31.000 But my opinion has shifted quite a bit because my view on GLP1s at this point is I don't like it.
01:05:36.000 I think people should be healthy and eat right and be responsible.
01:05:39.000 But it destroyed the body positivity movement.
01:05:43.000 And it's creating media personalities who look thin at least.
01:05:47.000 So I think what this will at least do is that for younger people, they're less likely to get fat because it's not socially acceptable anymore to be fat.
01:05:56.000 But that being said, these people in politics, when it comes, like, why is it that there are so many people that are anti data center?
01:06:04.000 Honest question.
01:06:06.000 What is the issue with data centers?
01:06:08.000 I want a real answer.
01:06:10.000 What was it?
01:06:10.000 I'm sorry.
01:06:11.000 Eminent domain?
01:06:13.000 Okay, eminent domain is an issue, right?
01:06:15.000 In Georgia, we agree eminent domain is bad.
01:06:17.000 That's irrespective of data centers.
01:06:19.000 Water consumption.
01:06:20.000 That's not even true.
01:06:23.000 The overconsumption of water is not even a real thing.
01:06:25.000 These things don't like convert water into coal and then the water is gone.
01:06:30.000 So a data center in Utah on 40,000 acres in the middle of nowhere negatively impacts nobody.
01:06:36.000 In Northern Virginia, certainly if you're complaining about the issues of data centers and you live in these areas, that's yours to complain about.
01:06:42.000 But these people are enjoying low property taxes and great benefits from the data centers that are coming in.
01:06:47.000 So I'm not saying AI is good.
01:06:49.000 I've complained about AI all the time, but flock is different.
01:06:54.000 Human governmental use of mass surveillance systems for the purpose of criminal charges when there's no real accuser.
01:07:00.000 Bad.
01:07:01.000 Data center allowing us to play video games, and if it's in the middle of nowhere and no one's bothered by it, Fine.
01:07:07.000 Data centers is like, yeah, it's completely incomparable because, like, data centers, yeah, to your point, I mean, we're just talking about a development, a technological development in the economy that, okay, yeah, the government utilizes, but they utilize cell phones.
01:07:07.000 Yeah.
01:07:20.000 I mean, they utilize every technological advancement.
01:07:22.000 They've been around forever.
01:07:23.000 And they've been around forever.
01:07:25.000 And also, like, every single person uses LLMs now versus Flock, which has, like, zero consumer usage, right?
01:07:33.000 These are primarily used by companies.
01:07:36.000 Like, you know, some companies utilize it in their businesses and whatnot.
01:07:39.000 But more importantly, the, I think what people have a problem with is the contracts with sheriff's departments and whatnot.
01:07:44.000 Indeed, it's the law enforcement application because when we got shot at, one of the first things that was recommended to us by our security team was a flock camera.
01:07:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:07:51.000 Because then we would know exactly who did it.
01:07:53.000 Yeah, and also, like we said, if it's a private business and you really have an axe to grind with flock and you know your local Walgreens uses it, you can just not patron Walgreens.
01:08:01.000 Like you have that option because people are making comparisons.
01:08:04.000 They're like, why do you care about flock?
01:08:05.000 You carry a cell phone around.
01:08:06.000 It's like, I can leave my cell phone at home.
01:08:08.000 Like I can turn, you know, I can put my cell phone in a Faraday cage.
01:08:11.000 Like I have options to not be surveilled via my cell phone.
01:08:14.000 With flock, I don't have that option.
01:08:17.000 Additionally, flock is sort of this TSA mindset where everyone is being treated as a criminal insofar as there's perpetual investigations occurring.
01:08:26.000 Like the flock camera is documenting your every move as if you have already committed a crime and are currently being investigated.
01:08:32.000 They're gathering evidence on you so they can use it later if they want to.
01:08:35.000 It's gathering evidence on someone that is not being suspected of a crime.
01:08:38.000 And again, I have a principal opposition to that, but secondarily, I might be a little bit more accepting of.
01:08:49.000 Flock, if our DAs demonstrated like fairness consistently.
01:08:53.000 But the problem is there's like two tier justice in this country.
01:08:55.000 Absolutely.
01:08:56.000 Where you have like three, 4% of the country that seems to be allowed to do whatever they want.
01:09:01.000 You walk around Washington, D.C., you walk around New York City, Los Angeles, there's homeless people everywhere.
01:09:06.000 There's delinquents everywhere, and the police walk right past them.
01:09:09.000 And it's not really the cops' fault.
01:09:10.000 They understand that if they arrest this person, there's going to be no charges brought forth.
01:09:14.000 And until that can be solved, I don't want to have a conversation that the police are like missing resources.
01:09:19.000 That's ridiculous.
01:09:20.000 The police are not missing resources.
01:09:22.000 The reason that we have these homeless people over the street is not because the police don't have the resources to get the job done, it's because their hands are completely tied by DAs, by I mean, by Democrat policy, I know it's like very on the nose, but it's like broadly true.
01:09:35.000 San Francisco, you know, these people that are like flock opponents are citing San Francisco as a shining example.
01:09:39.000 Well, I think the X factor in San Francisco is simply that the DA and the sheriff's department instituted a crackdown on car break ins and they actually started making arrests.
01:09:50.000 Whenever they would catch someone that was breaking into a car, they would make an arrest.
01:09:55.000 And the car break in rate in San Francisco just dropped to what it was 20 years ago.
01:09:59.000 And 20 years ago, they didn't have flock cameras.
01:10:00.000 20 years ago, the cops just, the cops, you ask any police officer, They can tell you the four or five people that are on their beat that are giving them problems every single day.
01:10:09.000 They just need a reason to be able to go after these people and put them in jail.
01:10:11.000 And it's going to make everyone's lives a lot easier.
01:10:14.000 And so in San Francisco, that's basically what they did they told these police officers, hey, if you make an arrest, we're going to bring a charge against them.
01:10:20.000 And they said, sweet.
01:10:21.000 Okay, I'll start arresting people and bringing them in.
01:10:23.000 What do you know?
01:10:23.000 Car break ins dropped precipitously.
01:10:25.000 Was Flock a force multiplier?
01:10:27.000 Yes.
01:10:27.000 I'm not denying that Flock led to more arrests.
01:10:30.000 I'm just simply contending that these cops are completely unable to make arrests without Flock.
01:10:34.000 It's like, let's start there first.
01:10:35.000 Let's start with the DAs actually bringing charges against these people and actually implementing Giuliani style policing.
01:10:42.000 And if they still can't get the job done, then we can have a conversation about encroaching on liberties to get the job done.
01:10:47.000 Like if it truly is that big of a problem, then we can have that conversation.
01:10:50.000 But we're not there yet at all.
01:10:51.000 Yeah.
01:10:54.000 Yeah.
01:10:54.000 I mean, look, the flock resistance is completely reasonable.
01:11:01.000 Yes.
01:11:01.000 The whole idea that, you know, because no one trusts institutions anyways.
01:11:07.000 There's already stories of where there are flock cameras, the flock cameras being misused, police following their girlfriends or whatever.
01:11:17.000 So, people that have a resistance to flock cameras, that's not just reasonable.
01:11:22.000 That's, in my opinion, the right position to take.
01:11:26.000 It's coming from two people that are very pro tech and catching the heat for it.
01:11:30.000 Yeah, I'm very, very pro AI, pro data center.
01:11:34.000 I think that a lot of the concerns people have are going to be.
01:11:38.000 Going to be solved before they become actual real big problems and stuff.
01:11:41.000 And I think that it's going to produce a lot of benefits for society.
01:11:47.000 So it's like to be like, oh, they're the same.
01:11:51.000 And I see a lot of it coming from libertarians who are rightly skeptical of government.
01:11:57.000 But it's almost as if libertarians have moved from being skeptical of government because they understand that government and big corporations or large corporations or whatever frequently work hand in hand.
01:12:11.000 They've become.
01:12:12.000 And they've become anti capitalist, anti technology, anti tech, anti big pharma, anti big anything.
01:12:20.000 Skeptical of power in general.
01:12:22.000 Yeah, which I understand being skeptical of government.
01:12:26.000 But when it comes to, you know, if you're going to call yourself a libertarian, you're supposed to be for free markets.
01:12:32.000 Yeah.
01:12:33.000 You're supposed to be for free enterprise.
01:12:35.000 You're supposed to be for, you know, pro business.
01:12:38.000 You know, and that's exactly what all the AI companies are.
01:12:42.000 Yeah, well, it's supposed to be.
01:12:43.000 It's supposed to be, but you're not supposed to be.
01:12:45.000 For anything fraudulent, any waste, any deception, which is.
01:12:51.000 Yeah.
01:12:52.000 What we're saying.
01:12:53.000 In my opinion.
01:12:54.000 Oh, sorry.
01:12:54.000 Go ahead.
01:12:55.000 I mean, sorry.
01:12:55.000 That's all.
01:12:57.000 I was just saying, like, no, it's kind of like an individual liberty argument.
01:13:03.000 It's like if you want to have your own flock cameras monitoring your own household, that would be crazy.
01:13:08.000 I mean, that'd be cool.
01:13:09.000 Like, that's what I would like to do, but I don't want everyone else monitoring me.
01:13:12.000 Yeah, I agree with that take 100%.
01:13:15.000 And yeah, a flock in my house is great.
01:13:17.000 And if Walgreens wants to employ flock, so be it.
01:13:20.000 But again, it's like, okay, these DAs all of a sudden need flock.
01:13:23.000 It's like, that's not the problem.
01:13:24.000 It's not that you can't find these people.
01:13:26.000 These people, when there's a case of a crazy guy stabbing someone on the train, They have like 40 priors.
01:13:31.000 Like, we're not having trouble identifying them.
01:13:33.000 If it's three, three, what is it?
01:13:33.000 Exactly.
01:13:35.000 What is it?
01:13:35.000 Three percent of the criminals or whatever?
01:13:37.000 I think so, yeah.
01:13:37.000 What's the number?
01:13:38.000 Yes.
01:13:39.000 No, no, no.
01:13:41.000 If we put everybody who's committed three crimes in prison forever, like all crimes basically gone.
01:13:46.000 Yeah, yeah, precisely.
01:13:47.000 Absolutely.
01:13:48.000 Additionally, with the flock discourse, Tim, you're going to the mat on this, and I think you're absolutely correct.
01:13:53.000 There's people that are just earnest and acting in good faith and are just seriously under the conviction, which is fine.
01:13:59.000 Like, it's a debate.
01:14:00.000 That's fine.
01:14:00.000 Like, I think Will Chamberlain is an honest actor.
01:14:02.000 I think he's.
01:14:03.000 Making a serious case for Flock, even if we disagree, seven thousand dollars.
01:14:08.000 I think, yeah, that's like that's an example.
01:14:11.000 But there's people that are making like completely nonsensical arguments in favor of Flock.
01:14:17.000 And like, my only takeaway is someone emailed you what the argument needs to be, and you're fumbling it, but the argument didn't make sense in the first place because it's like clearly handed off to you by a company.
01:14:27.000 Oh, you know, like this is what gets me so offended the propaganda is so bad.
01:14:31.000 Flock, what are you doing?
01:14:32.000 Here's what you do, Flock, you give me ten million dollars.
01:14:34.000 And I will write you the best propaganda campaign you have ever seen.
01:14:38.000 I will have people begging for flock cameras.
01:14:41.000 See, the problem is, in all honesty, it's the incompetence of these influencers.
01:14:46.000 I am offended as a marketing professional watching them try and do this flock.
01:14:51.000 I'm kidding, by the way.
01:14:52.000 I'm only half kidding, actually.
01:14:53.000 I am offended at how bad they are at doing this flock promotion.
01:14:56.000 I wouldn't take money to promote flock.
01:14:59.000 The arguments for flock exist, and it certainly is not some First Amendment argument.
01:15:04.000 There is an argument over.
01:15:06.000 Catching illegal immigrants, saving children who are being kidnapped, stopping pedophiles.
01:15:11.000 The problem is, we tend to be more liberty minded individuals, and I'd prefer to have a bunch of guns.
01:15:18.000 You know what I mean?
01:15:19.000 I would rather live in a society where I get to have my gun, knowing full well that sometimes bad people use guns and let me have the responsibility myself.
01:15:28.000 I don't want to create a mass surveillance network passing off the responsibility to a government that I'm supposed to blindly trust will do the right thing with this massive surveillance database.
01:15:37.000 It just doesn't work.
01:15:38.000 Well, if the argument is, Look, the composition of our population is just not suitable for liberty, and therefore we need a mass surveillance state.
01:15:46.000 I don't think that's an argument for mass surveillance.
01:15:48.000 I think that's an argument for like mass deportations.
01:15:50.000 I think that's an argument for how do we get to this?
01:15:53.000 Like, if we truly have a population that just quite literally isn't suitable for liberty and like privacy, et cetera, and freedom, and you know, I'm using all the buzzwords here, then to me, that's a very terrifying proposition.
01:16:04.000 I think they're correct, but I don't think the solution is mass surveillance.
01:16:07.000 I think the solution is, again, let's just conduct.
01:16:10.000 Mass deportations and sort of remedy this.
01:16:12.000 Like, I don't think I don't want to have to live like under a Chinese style system because we haven't done that previously and we didn't have this and we had crime relatively low at certain points in recent history, like even the 2000s.
01:16:25.000 Violent crime is down quite a lot, actually.
01:16:27.000 It's like, you know, you say this to some people, it's like taking candy away from the baby because they want you to think that like we have like exceptionally high amounts of violent crime.
01:16:35.000 The main problem in the United States is like this low level crime, right?
01:16:38.000 This is what's causing a lot of problems and it's making people feel.
01:16:41.000 Very unsafe.
01:16:42.000 Even though violent crime is lower, people feel very unsafe in our cities.
01:16:46.000 Why is that?
01:16:47.000 Because there's so much delinquency that's permitted.
01:16:49.000 Again, there's homeless people everywhere screaming at you, antagonizing you, pooping on the street.
01:16:55.000 There's needles everywhere.
01:16:56.000 And it's like, I don't care if violent crime is down.
01:16:59.000 If that is existing, it's hard to feel safe.
01:17:00.000 It's hard for mothers to push their kids around because they are petrified of them getting screamed at by a crazy person on the street.
01:17:09.000 And it's like, I don't know how flock remedies that.
01:17:11.000 I know how you remedy that is, again, you get these DAs to actually start enforcing the delinquency laws that we have on the books already.
01:17:17.000 Well, you also get those that govern police forces in counties and cities.
01:17:24.000 To allow the police to do their jobs, to start funding them, stop dismantling them, making them incapable of being able to do their job.
01:17:34.000 So, certainly in Montgomery County, the DUI force is now gone.
01:17:40.000 Task force is gone.
01:17:41.000 Yeah.
01:17:42.000 Because we have had an uptick of DUI accidents.
01:17:46.000 And they've, this is kind of flock ish, but it's not really.
01:17:51.000 I just want to point this out.
01:17:54.000 We don't need flock.
01:17:56.000 We need laws to be in place.
01:17:58.000 Police to be able to enforce the laws on the books.
01:18:02.000 And people shouldn't have to live with their heads on a swivel wherever they go.
01:18:08.000 So, this is what happened.
01:18:09.000 That's the issue.
01:18:10.000 And you look at every county, like my county, the executive selects the chief of police.
01:18:16.000 And the county council governs every aspect of our police force, Montgomery County Police Force.
01:18:22.000 Their budget, what they say, what they do, what they can do, what they can't do.
01:18:26.000 And it's all based around.
01:18:30.000 The equity, social justice, DEI, let these people, it's crazy.
01:18:41.000 And so when you say violent crime is down, I disagree because I personally believe that the data is being hidden from us and censored.
01:18:51.000 In DC, the police were flubbing the numbers to make it look like it was.
01:18:55.000 And in Maryland, the same thing.
01:18:57.000 In my opinion, I'll cover my.
01:19:01.000 Myself there, in my opinion, completely because you took Montgomery County, Maryland.
01:19:06.000 I used to listen to the police scanner all the time.
01:19:08.000 I was just fascinated by it.
01:19:10.000 I don't know if you guys have ever been awake at 2 a.m. and just thought, I'll listen to it.
01:19:15.000 Fascinating every two minutes.
01:19:17.000 Not because I believe, you know, I'm happy that there was crime, but something was happening and it started to get to the point where they were saying, Oh, we need an interpreter.
01:19:26.000 Right.
01:19:26.000 Yeah.
01:19:27.000 Oh, they don't have their license with, you know, they don't have a.
01:19:31.000 So it started to come out very obvious.
01:19:34.000 In my district alone, that I would estimate we have a minimum of 400,000 illegals in my district alone.
01:19:42.000 It is palpable.
01:19:43.000 Yeah.
01:19:43.000 So, yeah, I can't see.
01:19:45.000 I don't think we need flock.
01:19:46.000 I think we need just people that, DAs that do their job.
01:19:50.000 Yeah.
01:19:50.000 Yeah.
01:19:51.000 And more, you know, resources toward law enforcement and enforcing the laws on the books.
01:19:59.000 Yeah.
01:19:59.000 Well, I mean, it's a great example of San Francisco, where San Francisco, again, if you go back to the mid 2000s, you know, they had.
01:20:07.000 You know, car theft, car break ins, et cetera, was at the same level it is now post crackdown.
01:20:13.000 And then you go starting approaching 2010, around 2008.
01:20:17.000 That's when carjackings shot through the roof.
01:20:19.000 And then, you know, San Francisco became the carjacking capital of the United States.
01:20:22.000 What happened?
01:20:23.000 Well, San Francisco, they abolished their anti car theft team, right?
01:20:27.000 And so what ended up happening?
01:20:29.000 Okay, well, the carjacking started because the police couldn't use decoy cars, right?
01:20:32.000 They couldn't use plainclothes policing, et cetera.
01:20:35.000 The typical traditional police methods you would use to crack down on carjackings.
01:20:39.000 Or car theft, et cetera.
01:20:40.000 And then at the end of 2023, the new DA comes in who was a bit more moderate, a bit more pragmatic.
01:20:46.000 Comes in, he says, Okay, we're bringing back the crackdown, we're bringing back the anti car theft force or team or whatever you want to call it.
01:20:54.000 And then carjackings went down again.
01:20:56.000 Was flock a force multiplier?
01:20:58.000 Sure, but again, the main reason why they dropped is because they started enforcing laws on the books.
01:21:02.000 And yeah, I don't know the crime stats in Montgomery County, that could be likely that violent crime has gone up there.
01:21:07.000 I mean, nationwide, it's gone down.
01:21:09.000 Um, you know, New York City in the 70s and 80s was a nationwide.
01:21:12.000 I think, I think you're right.
01:21:13.000 I think, yeah, but people don't realize that you have you know bubbles like here in the DMV, we all See it.
01:21:21.000 We live it, right?
01:21:23.000 It's very in our faces.
01:21:26.000 We live it every day.
01:21:28.000 But then you have people in safe areas like Florida or people where laws are enforced.
01:21:34.000 Yeah, well, and I think it's great.
01:21:35.000 They live a whole, and they're not being overtaxed.
01:21:39.000 They're not.
01:21:41.000 It's a different world.
01:21:42.000 So I want people to understand there are states and counties and cities that are very much.
01:21:51.000 We're communist run, period.
01:21:53.000 I mean, I'm shocked that we're allowed to leave our homes at this point.
01:21:57.000 And violent crime has gotten a bit more indiscriminate, too.
01:22:00.000 Where if you look at the 70s and 80s, like New York City, for example, most of the violent crime was pretty much within the same demographic.
01:22:07.000 But if you compare it to now, you're seeing more and more examples.
01:22:10.000 I mean, we just saw in Times Square where the violent crime is indiscriminate, where it's quite literally a crazy person just killing someone in this case, but harming someone in some way, shape, or form.
01:22:20.000 That was crazy.
01:22:21.000 Where in the 70s and 80s, even though violent crime was far higher than it is now, It was kind of a narrow demographic that they were just wailing on each other all day long.
01:22:28.000 Where now you're seeing people.
01:22:29.000 Head on a swivel.
01:22:30.000 Like you never know.
01:22:31.000 Like people have been shot in the grocery store for no reason.
01:22:34.000 Yeah.
01:22:35.000 That woman in Times Square.
01:22:36.000 Yeah.
01:22:37.000 That was insane to me.
01:22:40.000 And I guess I'm kind of over the oh, mentally ill.
01:22:45.000 My heart goes out.
01:22:46.000 Like I'm a very big advocate for, you know, helping those with disabilities in any way possible.
01:22:57.000 But I think that there are too many instances where there are people that are just mean and angry and violent, and now they're labeled mentally ill.
01:23:08.000 No, they just want to go out and do what they want to do and be as violent as possible.
01:23:14.000 Yeah, well, that's their culture or that's their ideology, or they truly hate being in this country, but love to live off of the fruits of the land, but hate everybody in the country, so they want to get rid of.
01:23:27.000 Yeah.
01:23:28.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:23:28.000 I mean, it's kind of rudimentary and kind of a broad stroke, which I didn't mean to use.
01:23:33.000 No, I think you're right.
01:23:35.000 And I think what you're getting at is like, okay, the argument that these people are mentally ill, therefore we should permit them to stay on the streets makes no sense, right?
01:23:42.000 Like, if someone truly is so mentally ill that they can't help themselves but commit violent crime, that should be an argument for institutionalizing them in some way, shape, or form for their sake, too.
01:23:51.000 Like, I think to prevent them from going to prison.
01:23:54.000 But enough of using it as a moniker for people that are just.
01:23:58.000 Bad people.
01:23:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:23:59.000 Like, I, yeah, a lot of these people are bad people.
01:24:01.000 A lot of these people are just they know exactly what they're doing and they're they want to do it.
01:24:04.000 Yeah, there's just an exceptionally increasingly large proportion of the population that's just completely antisocial.
01:24:10.000 And that's like a huge problem.
01:24:11.000 And I mean antisocial in the actual definition, like quite literally functions in a way that is not congruent with polite society.
01:24:17.000 Right.
01:24:17.000 That is the point of prison.
01:24:18.000 The point of prison is to incapacitate those people.
01:24:21.000 The prison, the point of prison is not like rehabilitation or the point of prison isn't even as a deterrent.
01:24:29.000 Like the point of prison is to just ensure these people that are going to harm the general public are removed from the general public so they don't harm anyone, you know?
01:24:36.000 Like, it's this idea of like, if you have a kid, you know, your own son or daughter, and they're slamming a car on the table, right?
01:24:43.000 You take the toy away, not because you're trying to teach them not to hit the toy on the glass table.
01:24:48.000 It's not to punish them or enact justice.
01:24:51.000 It's to incapacitate them so they don't destroy the table.
01:24:53.000 That's why you take the toy away.
01:24:54.000 Then maybe later on you explain to them, but the way their child's brain works, they won't understand that.
01:24:58.000 The only thing they don't, it's not about like teaching a lesson.
01:25:01.000 It's about getting the toy out of their hands so they don't break the glass table.
01:25:04.000 That's the point of prison.
01:25:05.000 It's incapacitation primarily.
01:25:07.000 Yeah, we were talking about that last night.
01:25:08.000 The, the, Just like you said, like the point of putting people away isn't rehabilitation.
01:25:15.000 Recidivism is extremely high among the people that have gone to prison.
01:25:20.000 And so you're just trying to make society safer for the people that are not antisocial, for the people that can function in society.
01:25:29.000 It doesn't matter if the criminal that's got a rap sheet a mile long, it doesn't matter if you believe they can be rehabilitated or not.
01:25:39.000 The point is to take them out of the general population.
01:25:42.000 Because they make the general population worse.
01:25:45.000 And they don't make it just a little bit worse.
01:25:47.000 One criminal that is consistently causing crimes makes it significantly worse.
01:25:54.000 So you get, if you've got a population of 1,000, it only takes 40 or 50 people to ruin everything.
01:26:02.000 So you put those people in prison so that way the other 950 people can live in peace and have a decent standard of living.
01:26:11.000 Well, and I think conservatives fall into this trap of thinking that the point of prison is deterrent.
01:26:15.000 Too.
01:26:15.000 And it's not.
01:26:16.000 These people that are committing these crimes can't conceptualize second, third, fourth orders.
01:26:21.000 They're first order thinkers.
01:26:22.000 They have a high time preference.
01:26:24.000 So they're not committing a crime and they're thinking, well, maybe I shouldn't scream at this person and stab them because I might go to jail.
01:26:31.000 That never comes across their mind.
01:26:33.000 But conservatives fall into this trap where we went in.
01:26:36.000 And I'm not saying we shouldn't do it.
01:26:38.000 I'm not trying to pearl clutch here, but this idea that if you crank up the brutality in prisons, that's somehow going to drop crime.
01:26:44.000 And it's like, No, because these people aren't thinking, like, oh, what if I go to jail if I do this?
01:26:48.000 It's like, no.
01:26:49.000 That's why the deterrence is not an X factor when it comes to keeping crime.
01:26:53.000 Well, it needs to be.
01:26:54.000 I mean, criminals need to be afraid again.
01:26:57.000 But the problem is they won't.
01:26:58.000 The problem, I agree.
01:26:58.000 Yeah.
01:27:00.000 It's just the problem is they don't have the mental faculties, too.
01:27:03.000 Right.
01:27:04.000 So.
01:27:04.000 Yeah.
01:27:05.000 I mean, that was that whole meme about if you hadn't eaten breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?
01:27:11.000 Assuming the study is real, it's a meme.
01:27:13.000 But you ask these violent murderers, and their brains cannot process what you are saying.
01:27:17.000 Well, that's why they all plead non guilty.
01:27:19.000 I mean, part of it is like legal strategy, obviously, and like they don't want to go to jail.
01:27:23.000 But it's not like they get caught and they say, All right, well, I'm getting what's coming to me.
01:27:27.000 You know, I was deterred, but I went forth anyway and committed the crime.
01:27:32.000 So you got me.
01:27:33.000 I plead guilty.
01:27:34.000 A lot of them plead not guilty.
01:27:35.000 Arguably, the majority plead not guilty because they're literally convinced they don't understand why they're in handcuffs right now.
01:27:41.000 Like the majority of them feel like they're entitled to like kill people, quite frankly.
01:27:46.000 Like the majority of people in prison, you ask them, they think they're being wronged or it's unfair that they're in prison.
01:27:51.000 So, these people just quite frankly don't have the mental capacity to even comprehend the concept of, oh my gosh, if I do something wrong, I might go to prison.
01:27:59.000 You just need to incapacitate them.
01:28:01.000 You need to prevent them from committing the crime in the first place.
01:28:04.000 And just to Tim's point or in your point, it's a mile long rap sheet.
01:28:04.000 Yeah.
01:28:07.000 It's pretty easy to figure out who's going to commit violent crime, actually.
01:28:10.000 It's not like you have these model citizens that don't have a traffic ticket and all of a sudden they go on the subway and stab someone.
01:28:17.000 No, it's people that have consistently demonstrated antisocial behavior.
01:28:20.000 This is why predictive policing works.
01:28:22.000 Yeah.
01:28:23.000 I mean, you ask.
01:28:25.000 You ask police in any place that has consistent policing by the same people, they know who the shitheads are.
01:28:34.000 They know who the shitheads are.
01:28:35.000 They know who the people are.
01:28:37.000 And you see it all the time, like when you watch shows like Cops and stuff like that.
01:28:40.000 Like they get out and they know the guy's name.
01:28:43.000 What are you doing here?
01:28:44.000 You know you can't be here.
01:28:44.000 It's Otis.
01:28:46.000 We've told you 17 times.
01:28:49.000 It's a trope.
01:28:49.000 It's Otis and Andy Griffith, where he just blocks himself in a jail.
01:28:53.000 Like they know Otis is going to probably get a public indecency charge.
01:28:58.000 So he already knows the drill and that sort of thing.
01:29:00.000 That's like literally, we have a million Otis's on the streets.
01:29:03.000 Not quite as wholesome as Otis.
01:29:05.000 A lot of violent Otis is on the street.
01:29:07.000 Where Otis is wholesome.
01:29:08.000 Where I like Otis, Otis is a patriot, but insofar as like.
01:29:13.000 He's a drunk parrot here.
01:29:14.000 But insofar as they have the same relationship that Andy had with Otis, which is like Otis knows that he screwed up, Andy knows that he screwed up.
01:29:20.000 But the one difference is in Mayberry, the DA allowed them to put Otis in jail.
01:29:23.000 The problem with New York City is Andy can't put Otis in jail.
01:29:26.000 So instead they have this, you know, this rapport with each other, but it never actually manifests in like an arrest.
01:29:31.000 I think it's just sickening that it's intertwined with the whole sanctuary city.
01:29:37.000 Policies.
01:29:38.000 So you have, you know, the criminal, the homegrown criminals, if you will, coupled with the sanctuary city policies.
01:29:48.000 They're all like, we can do whatever we want.
01:29:50.000 It doesn't matter if we're legal or not, if, you know, if we're Americans or not, we can do whatever we want in sanctuary cities.
01:30:00.000 We are 100% protected.
01:30:03.000 And since, I mean, doesn't it just blow your mind that here in America, Americans now need sanctuary?
01:30:12.000 On our own soil, it's just, it makes no sense to me other than we have to win in the midterms, period.
01:30:24.000 We have to end this, period.
01:30:27.000 No more sanctuary at all.
01:30:30.000 So, yeah, the sanctuary city thing is tough because it's like, this is kind of the lesson we learned after the Spencer Pratt debacle, where like the entire, you know, population was, you know, not the entire, but the entire Republican, you know, base was demanding.
01:30:44.000 That Trump intervenes and remedies the situation in Los Angeles, where I think it seems quite clear to everybody that something is warranting an investigation of what went down in Los Angeles for the Spencer Pratt race.
01:30:54.000 But we all kind of realized that for better or for worse, California can kind of conduct their affairs however they want.
01:31:00.000 It's kind of the same thing with sanctuary cities or even sanctuary states now that we have, but sanctuary cities.
01:31:05.000 It's like if the Los Angeles Police Department is not going to turn illegal immigrants over to ICE, there's really not much we can do about that besides nationalizing the Los Angeles Police Department, which would be.
01:31:17.000 An unbelievable fight in court that would probably never turn in our favor.
01:31:22.000 And so it's like, it's one of those issues that's just quite literally, I think, like, your best case might be trying to charge these mayors with treason.
01:31:30.000 I mean, that, like, might literally be your best forward.
01:31:33.000 Yeah, it might literally make sure we get the definitions right.
01:31:35.000 Yeah, yeah, sedition.
01:31:36.000 And that quite literally might be your best, you know, attack vector because, like, the sanctuary city thing is like open and shut.
01:31:42.000 If the police departments are not turning these illegal immigrants over, there's not very much we can do about it.
01:31:46.000 Well, it's nice to see police forces starting to fight back, sheriffs.
01:31:50.000 Are fighting back.
01:31:50.000 So 17 sheriffs out of the 24 counties in Maryland, 17 counties are now suing the state.
01:31:56.000 Yeah.
01:31:57.000 Yeah.
01:31:57.000 It seems like they want to enforce ICE enforcement.
01:32:02.000 Yeah.
01:32:03.000 That's the one white pill.
01:32:03.000 Yeah.
01:32:04.000 So I love that I'm seeing, you know, listen, we're in a day and age where we need heroes.
01:32:10.000 We need people to stop kind of sitting in the background, stand up and speak out.
01:32:17.000 And I get it.
01:32:18.000 People are afraid.
01:32:20.000 But You know, help in any way you can to encourage others that can speak out.
01:32:26.000 The Republicans need to offer something for the midterms because currently they're just like, we're going on recess till the end of the month.
01:32:32.000 See you.
01:32:33.000 I mean, Trump's.
01:32:33.000 Yeah.
01:32:34.000 I wouldn't be on recess.
01:32:36.000 Yeah.
01:32:37.000 Trump's not on the ballot.
01:32:38.000 It's a matter of the speaker.
01:32:39.000 They tell you there's no votes.
01:32:41.000 Certainly, individual members of Congress are doing a lot of things like, you know, obviously Massey is never stopping what he's doing.
01:32:46.000 But this is a time where the Republicans are supposed to be telling the American people, we have a plan for you.
01:32:52.000 Yeah.
01:32:53.000 It's this problem the GOP has had since Trump came down the golden escalator, insofar as when Trump's not on the ballot, Republicans don't care.
01:33:02.000 And it's.
01:33:03.000 Understandable why a lot of Trump voters are just like looking at the congressional Republican delegation.
01:33:09.000 They're saying, Why should I reward you?
01:33:10.000 Trump's been doing any victory we've had in the last year and a half for right wingers has been from the executive.
01:33:17.000 I mean, okay, the big, beautiful bill was great, I guess, but that had Trump's fingerprints all over it.
01:33:23.000 We're going in, people are unhappy with Trump over Iran.
01:33:26.000 And then now we're asked, congressional Republicans are asking, you know, the Republican, the Trump voter to come vote for them.
01:33:33.000 They're just sitting there like, What have you done?
01:33:36.000 I mean, what's warranting this?
01:33:37.000 Like, I understand voting for you to keep Democrats out, but unfortunately, like, at a certain point, if you're in politics, it's not enough to just be the opposition party.
01:33:46.000 It's not enough to be the anti party.
01:33:48.000 Eventually, you have to articulate to the American people what you're in favor of, what you're for.
01:33:52.000 You look at the Michigan race, Mike Rogers' entire campaign is, at least I'm not like Abdul.
01:33:57.000 And then Abdul's campaign is, here's all these things I want to do.
01:34:01.000 Here's this, that, and the other.
01:34:01.000 And we can disagree with every single one of those policies, but it's undeniable that.
01:34:04.000 Abdul is communicating some sort of vision, even as misguided as it is.
01:34:09.000 He's articulating a vision to the American people.
01:34:11.000 Mike Rogers is just literally saying, vote for me so I can keep the handbrake on for another six years.
01:34:16.000 Sorry, that's not going to cut it.
01:34:18.000 Trump, again, it's a very critical time for Trump, a time where people are highly critical of Trump, but he's articulated something to the American people.
01:34:26.000 He's articulated some sort of vision to the American people, and he's been rewarded for it twice, arguably three times.
01:34:32.000 Congressional Republicans, what's their articulation?
01:34:35.000 Vote for us so the Democrats can't get appointments across the The finish line in six years.
01:34:40.000 It's like, sorry, that's way over the heads of the majority of voters.
01:34:43.000 And secondarily, kind of insulting, quite frankly.
01:34:46.000 I mean, you know.
01:34:48.000 I mean, El Sayed isn't really.
01:34:48.000 I don't know.
01:34:54.000 They don't have the populist movement they claim to have.
01:34:58.000 Well, he's advocating for socialism, and socialism is a vision for the country.
01:35:02.000 Even if we think it's bad, it's still like an alternative.
01:35:05.000 It's offering something to people, pointing out a problem and saying there's a solution.
01:35:08.000 But I firmly don't believe that people are buying for it.
01:35:11.000 Buying it, they are.
01:35:12.000 He's like five points in the polls, yeah.
01:35:14.000 So, I mean, that's that's and I understand in my own district that have voted Democrat for well, it's one third of the Democratic Party is DSA, but where he is, I mean, he's also got a large Muslim population, too.
01:35:27.000 Large Muslim population, huge union base, and the unions vote in blocks.
01:35:32.000 So, okay, yes, some of the unions swung for Trump, Trump's not in the ballot.
01:35:36.000 Mike Rogers, again, if you're like a union boss, what's more appealing to you, the guy who's going to like Continue the gravy train or Mike Rogers.
01:35:45.000 Republicans need to take a long, hard look at libertarians.
01:35:49.000 Everyone talks like they're a libertarian, right?
01:35:52.000 Everyone's like, oh, we people should be free.
01:35:53.000 Well, not everyone, but people on the conservative side frequently talk like they're a libertarian.
01:35:58.000 Oh, you know, people should be free.
01:35:59.000 No one ever votes for libertarians because most people vote because they want the government to do something for them or do something against the people they don't like.
01:36:10.000 And it's kind of ugly to articulate it that way, but it's true.
01:36:14.000 And if Republicans aren't going to use The power that the voters gave to them, then the voters are going to give the power to someone else.
01:36:23.000 That's exactly why libertarians lose.
01:36:26.000 It is not a compelling argument to say, I'm going to get into office and leave you alone.
01:36:31.000 When the guy that you're debating against says, I'm going to get into office and give you free everything.
01:36:38.000 You're not going to convince anyone with, I'm going to leave you alone.
01:36:41.000 As much as it sounds great to libertarians, nobody votes for libertarians.
01:36:47.000 They generally get 3% in the voting.
01:36:51.000 And last time they got one because they put up the worst libertarian in history.
01:36:57.000 Because the Republic, if you watch the average Republican ad, okay, you watch the Democrat ad, it's, I'm going to fight for you, fight being the imperative word.
01:37:05.000 And the average Republican ad is, I'm going to fight like hell, presumably against the Democrat.
01:37:10.000 And then the Libertarian, you know, they don't run TV ads because they don't have any money, but like the Libertarian pitch is, I'm going to leave you alone.
01:37:17.000 Yeah, I'm going to do nothing.
01:37:18.000 I'm going to do nothing.
01:37:19.000 I'm going to do nothing.
01:37:20.000 You're going to get into government and then delete the government.
01:37:20.000 I'm going to do literally nothing.
01:37:23.000 It's like, no, you're not.
01:37:25.000 There's been a single like government program that's been like, Reduced in size, a single administration that's been reduced in size.
01:37:31.000 I mean, even under Trump, like, uh, might be the only one ever.
01:37:35.000 Yeah, like there's like a few, but like, insofar as the general scope of the government continues to expand, you know, every decade.
01:37:42.000 So, you know, okay, wherever Trump is able to like cut at the edges, um, in the grand scheme of things, like the debt's increasing, you know, and the military just got 500 billion extra dollars.
01:37:52.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:37:54.000 I think people are kind of sick of hearing the same old, um, you know, incumbent talking points and.
01:38:01.000 The political rhetoric.
01:38:02.000 So, I know personally for me, you know, I truly want to be a civil servant and I want to restore our American values, you know, ensure that the laws we have in the books are enacted and enforced.
01:38:21.000 Well, there you go, law and order.
01:38:22.000 That's far more compelling than I'm going to look at.
01:38:25.000 I want safety for everyone.
01:38:27.000 I want, you know, people to thrive and prosper.
01:38:33.000 I want to sort of bring it back to what our founding fathers intended Congress to be.
01:38:41.000 And they've veered so far away from that concept that, I mean, it may sound kind of hokey, but people actually like that.
01:38:50.000 They kind of like that idea of kind of starting over and let's get back to basics.
01:38:55.000 Decent people do, I will say that.
01:38:59.000 So that's just kind of my take.
01:39:01.000 I don't think that everybody's buying the, oh, everything for free, and everybody's buying the, You know, Al Sayed or, you know, even Baker's not on the ballot, but that type of mentality, unless you're here for various reasons and you want free stuff.
01:39:19.000 I want to make a point because we talked about it the other night, but do you guys know how many Bolsheviks there were in 1917?
01:39:24.000 Not many.
01:39:26.000 24,000.
01:39:26.000 Yeah.
01:39:26.000 Do you know how many DSA there are right now?
01:39:30.000 120,000.
01:39:31.000 Yeah.
01:39:32.000 Yeah.
01:39:32.000 And so the Bolsheviks in early 1917 had a membership of around 24,000, and by the end of the year, they were at 200,000 to 300,000.
01:39:41.000 In the past year, DSA has gone up something like 70 or 80,000 members.
01:39:46.000 So it is growing.
01:39:47.000 And people need to understand that there were 170 million people in Russia at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution.
01:39:56.000 200,000 people was all it took to instill 70 years of mass death and communism.
01:40:02.000 We right now have 330 million or so.
01:40:07.000 So we're just about twice the size.
01:40:09.000 So one could argue that a comparable size of DSA will be once they're at around.
01:40:14.000 400,000, maybe 500,000 is when it's like, okay, you are in literal.
01:40:20.000 So they're about 20, 30% of the way there.
01:40:22.000 Well, and the scarier proposition here is because we live in a system where you just need to win a primary and then you can basically.
01:40:32.000 The DSA, as long as they can win a Democrat presidential primary, they now wield the entire weight of the Democrat Party.
01:40:38.000 And then additionally, for the Bolsheviks, they had to have a bloody revolution.
01:40:43.000 Again, if you're seeking to take over the United States, if you win an election, you instantly legitimize yourself.
01:40:49.000 You're instantly a legitimate government.
01:40:50.000 I mean, you can contest that, but like.
01:40:52.000 You know, like literally speaking, if you've won an election, you are now the legitimate ruler of the United States.
01:40:58.000 So they don't even need to do it with a revolution.
01:41:00.000 They can quite literally just whip enough votes to win a Democrat primary.
01:41:04.000 They now wield the most powerful political institution on planet Earth, and then they win an election, and then they're now the legitimate government, like a bloodless revolution.
01:41:11.000 Yeah.
01:41:11.000 It's.
01:41:12.000 You can't even classify it as a revolution.
01:41:13.000 It's just democracy.
01:41:14.000 Well, that's what's so terrifying.
01:41:15.000 It's Fabian socialism.
01:41:16.000 It's the Fabian method, you know, vote in the socialists so that way you don't have to actually have a revolution.
01:41:21.000 Yeah.
01:41:22.000 You know, there are a lot of people that are.
01:41:24.000 In the DSA, that are actual communists that think that people like AOC aren't extreme enough, aren't far left enough that they actually want to do communism right.
01:41:36.000 But look, if the DSA do get into positions of power and they have enough people, they will absolutely change the government as much as they possibly can.
01:41:48.000 I mean, I don't know exactly what the method is to expand the court.
01:41:53.000 I'd have to look it up and find out.
01:41:56.000 I could, that'll definitely have the Supreme Court.
01:41:58.000 They will definitely expand the Supreme Court and do their best to, you know, put very activist judges.
01:42:05.000 We'll have three or four more Kajanti Brown Jacksons on the court.
01:42:09.000 And that means the end of the country, like for all intents and purposes.
01:42:14.000 I like using the analogy I've used for those that haven't heard it that what happens to our laws and interpretation of the Constitution when you get five members of the Supreme Court that are Muslim?
01:42:26.000 And you've not heard this, so I'll just give you the quick version, but I'll go as quick as I can.
01:42:31.000 Let's say that there's an individual who blasphemes against Allah.
01:42:34.000 He gets arrested for blasphemy because he's in Dearborn, Michigan, or whatever.
01:42:38.000 He makes the Supreme Court.
01:42:40.000 How do you think a Muslim majority Supreme Court would rule on the question of can you be criminally charged for blaspheming Allah?
01:42:49.000 Do you think they would agree that you can be criminally charged for that or no?
01:42:52.000 Oh, yeah.
01:42:53.000 They would say yes.
01:42:54.000 Absolutely.
01:42:55.000 Now, let's say in the same instance, someone blasphemed Jesus Christ.
01:42:59.000 And that made it to the Supreme Court.
01:43:00.000 Would a Muslim majority court say that that too is criminal blasphemy?
01:43:03.000 They'd say no.
01:43:04.000 And they'd say Allah is God.
01:43:06.000 Blasphemy is against God.
01:43:07.000 Jesus Christ is not God.
01:43:08.000 You can't blaspheme against a person.
01:43:10.000 So that's what happens.
01:43:11.000 This is the point I was making earlier that democracy works wonderfully in a morally and culturally homogenous country.
01:43:19.000 But when you are now looking at 30% of the country being foreign born or.
01:43:25.000 What's the percent of foreign born in the United States right now?
01:43:27.000 Is it 30% or something like that?
01:43:28.000 18, 15, 18%.
01:43:31.000 New York is, I think, 35 or something like that.
01:43:34.000 When you start looking at large percentages, they do not agree with the American way of life.
01:43:40.000 They don't agree with the idea of innocent until proven guilty.
01:43:44.000 So you will get it's fascinating because the argument is not that they're trying to take over.
01:43:50.000 Right now in this country, there are communists, there are Muslims, there are Hai Krishnas, and they vote exactly for their way of life.
01:43:59.000 Yeah.
01:44:00.000 The presumption a lot of people have is once the group gets large enough, they'll vote in Sharia law.
01:44:05.000 No, they're voting for Sharia right now.
01:44:07.000 They're just not the majority.
01:44:10.000 Once they're slightly tilted in one direction, that's when you have a legitimate government implementation of Sharia or whatever it may be.
01:44:19.000 Mosaic law, if that were ever to happen, which I really doubt.
01:44:22.000 So, sure, you want to have democracy, everybody can vote, but these things, it's just not real life.
01:44:29.000 It's just not real.
01:44:30.000 So, I don't know where that drops us off, though, in the United States with the current trend of things.
01:44:36.000 Trump's sort of reversing it, I guess.
01:44:38.000 Well, I mean, he's done the most of any administration in my lifetime to not just kind of put up barriers, but actually pull back some wins from the left.
01:44:48.000 You know, how well that's going to work out in the future or how successful he's going to be, that remains to be seen because you don't know.
01:45:02.000 You don't know that he's going to have any kind of ability to do that after the midterms.
01:45:09.000 And then, furthermore, like, you know, whoever gets in in 28, like, if you get a Democrat Congress and president, I mean, everything he's done, they'll undo.
01:45:20.000 And.
01:45:22.000 That's an understatement, too.
01:45:23.000 I mean, they're not just going to undo things.
01:45:27.000 They're going to put people in gulags.
01:45:28.000 They will put people in prison, and they will also codify the laws that make sure that they remain in power.
01:45:37.000 You're going to have essentially what's going on in California, but it'll be nationwide.
01:45:42.000 You won't be able to get a Republican to win because they'll change the laws, they'll expand the court, they'll get rid of the electoral college.
01:45:50.000 All they need is enough votes, and they will do it.
01:45:54.000 The only thing that they say they want to do that they can't do with just a majority in Congress is get rid of the Senate.
01:46:02.000 It's the only thing they can't do.
01:46:03.000 Everything else they can do.
01:46:05.000 And if they get a large enough majority, which I don't think they will, but if they got a large enough majority, then I think they might be able to.
01:46:13.000 An amendment has to be ratified by two thirds of the state, so maybe not.
01:46:18.000 But yeah, you can't get rid of the Senate.
01:46:21.000 It's the only thing you can't amend away.
01:46:23.000 And.
01:46:24.000 And they'd have to get rid of the whole Constitution to get rid of the Senate.
01:46:27.000 But that's something that is on the cards for the Democrats, for the DSA, for the Republicans.
01:46:34.000 Well, we just need to get voter fraud under control, period.
01:46:37.000 And I think that it is happening.
01:46:39.000 I think that, again, I'm throwing a little hopium out there.
01:46:43.000 I do believe there is a way to combat that since the Save America Act hasn't been passed yet, which infuriates me.
01:46:55.000 And again, I speak to so many people.
01:46:58.000 Um, that are came here the legal way, who are not happy at all with anything that is going on by the radical communist, Islamic, socialist, Marxist, the Red Green Alliance, the Red Green Alliance, uh, regime that is happening now.
01:47:22.000 So, I really don't believe that their, um, there isn't their populist movement, it isn't real, it's it's it's An optic.
01:47:32.000 I think that there are many more silent that are not speaking out.
01:47:37.000 I mean, unfortunately, we do have people that are just very disenfranchised with all of it who aren't going to vote.
01:47:46.000 I pray that they do.
01:47:49.000 And I pray that, you know, we start getting some real evidence and solutions to the voter fraud.
01:47:59.000 You know, America, we deserve to have fair.
01:48:03.000 Yeah, I can't.
01:48:05.000 And I say, let's bring blockchain in.
01:48:07.000 I don't care.
01:48:08.000 I don't care what we have to do.
01:48:10.000 One day voting, screw the mail in ballots, get rid of them, period.
01:48:15.000 And let's see what happens.
01:48:18.000 I mean, I completely agree with you, but you know.
01:48:21.000 And get good people in Congress that are loyal to America and her values.
01:48:28.000 I mean, like I said, I agree with you totally.
01:48:28.000 Yeah.
01:48:31.000 But how do you get that when the Senate won't move and this is the voter ID, just voter ID, right?
01:48:39.000 That's 80% of Americans think that we should have to show ID to vote.
01:48:43.000 80%.
01:48:45.000 In all the polls, it's consistent, right?
01:48:48.000 And the Senate doesn't want to do it for whatever reason, whether they don't like Trump or whatnot.
01:48:52.000 They got into power and they want to keep.
01:48:56.000 That power.
01:48:56.000 I mean.
01:48:57.000 Yeah, maybe.
01:48:58.000 It could be, but it doesn't change the fact that for the American people.
01:49:01.000 They just pulled out for whatever reason.
01:49:03.000 They're sellouts.
01:49:04.000 Yeah.
01:49:04.000 It's sickening.
01:49:05.000 It is.
01:49:06.000 So we need to restore it.
01:49:07.000 We need to tear it down and restore it.
01:49:09.000 Sans, a few people that I truly do genuinely think are very good representatives for our country and their hearts and souls are.
01:49:22.000 And the red cross.
01:49:22.000 We're in keeping America, America.
01:49:28.000 Yeah, I mean, like I said, I agree.
01:49:30.000 Anything else?
01:49:31.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:49:32.000 Like I said, I mean, I agree.
01:49:34.000 This is why people are so cynical and black pilled when you look at something.
01:49:38.000 And I think that voter ID is the best example.
01:49:41.000 I'm a little bit shyer, and I get it.
01:49:43.000 Listen, I live in a county that more mail in ballots are in Montgomery County, Maryland than anywhere in the state of Maryland.
01:49:52.000 Probably in the U.S., actually.
01:49:54.000 Because during the COVID crisis, and when they asked people, Do you want mail in ballots in the state of Maryland? They said, Do you want them forever?
01:50:07.000 Yeah.
01:50:08.000 Wasn't that supposed to be an emergency sort of amendment at the time?
01:50:14.000 Oh, yeah, send me a mail in ballot forever.
01:50:17.000 Yeah.
01:50:18.000 And no data rolls are handed over.
01:50:20.000 I think we're one of 11 states.
01:50:23.000 I'm sorry, every one of the states that are not handing over their voter rolls.
01:50:28.000 They're hiding something.
01:50:29.000 Period.
01:50:30.000 Yep.
01:50:31.000 I don't know.
01:50:32.000 I get it.
01:50:33.000 I understand that people are afraid to stand up and support any way they can.
01:50:40.000 But yeah, I don't care what you do, just go out and vote.
01:50:45.000 And let's try to make it too big to rig, which, again, with the mail in ballots, I'm not sure.
01:50:53.000 But let's hope.
01:50:56.000 And let's hope that those seven states the DOJ is focused on.
01:51:01.000 Getting into helping secure their elections.
01:51:04.000 Let's just hope that states like that are other states like my state that are also being investigated or will have some leverage on the ground, some oversight on the ground, even though it's not being openly announced.
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01:51:33.000 Walt the Shark says, as tradition, here in the delivery room, waiting on second child, first son, Jack Wesley.
01:51:40.000 Let's go.
01:51:41.000 Welcome to the world, Jack.
01:51:41.000 All right.
01:51:43.000 Congratulations.
01:51:43.000 That's a lot of work to do.
01:51:45.000 Awesome.
01:51:45.000 Come on.
01:51:46.000 K.O. says, is it really such a shock that the more third worlders we have in politics, the more our politics look third world?
01:51:52.000 I mean, there you go.
01:51:54.000 Not surprised.
01:51:54.000 So true.
01:51:56.000 Our sergeant says, well, you see, guys, this is why I had my eggs frozen so parsed bottom depression won't be a thing because I'm going to wait till I can find a genetically satisfying Puerto Rican slave girl surrogate.
01:52:05.000 That was a.
01:52:10.000 El Hefe says, communism always starts with the intelligentsia, who are also the first put against the wall.
01:52:15.000 You can literally pick up many books and read about this.
01:52:17.000 Most commies are dumb.
01:52:18.000 Correct.
01:52:19.000 Yep.
01:52:19.000 That's right.
01:52:20.000 Absolutely.
01:52:21.000 You get rid of the smart people.
01:52:22.000 They always think we're going to do communism right.
01:52:25.000 All those other places did it wrong.
01:52:26.000 We're going to do it right, which is.
01:52:28.000 Yeah.
01:52:28.000 Idiots.
01:52:29.000 It's dumb, but still.
01:52:30.000 Sorry.
01:52:30.000 I just had to throw it out there.
01:52:32.000 All right.
01:52:34.000 Billiam, as it says, Billiam.
01:52:37.000 Is that what it says?
01:52:38.000 Billiam Albert.
01:52:40.000 Billiam Albert.
01:52:40.000 Tax the universities to pay the debt or seize the endowments.
01:52:45.000 Let's see.
01:52:46.000 R. Sargent says I guess the same question brought up by Bicentennial Man.
01:52:49.000 Humans have rights, animals have rights in America.
01:52:52.000 How long will it be until the robots we inevitably build have rights given to them?
01:52:58.000 I believe the episode was called The Make of a Man.
01:53:01.000 And that was in, I think it was 1990 when Star Trek The Next Generation did an episode.
01:53:05.000 It might have been earlier than that.
01:53:06.000 It might have been season one.
01:53:07.000 I think it was season two.
01:53:08.000 Where they hold a trial to determine whether or not data has rights.
01:53:12.000 Because the Federation is like, he's a washing machine.
01:53:15.000 We own him.
01:53:16.000 And they're like, no, we don't.
01:53:18.000 And so they hold a trial on it, and there's a debate over how you determine whether or not a machine is alive.
01:53:24.000 And good luck.
01:53:26.000 Yeah.
01:53:28.000 Thinker for Life says, y'all said chess.
01:53:31.000 Chess.com monitors for cheating.
01:53:32.000 Chess is a global game.
01:53:34.000 The win pot could be Tim Castor points for gift cards, as previously discussed, for swag win win.
01:53:39.000 Givers gain marketing.
01:53:41.000 The way that they tend to track for cheating is by play.
01:53:44.000 So, obviously, they have trainer trackers, meaning if you are using an app and you open on your same computer another app that in some way helps you cheat or shows you, they'll be like, hey, we detected a cheating app, stop.
01:54:00.000 However, people also will pull up their phones and they'll have two games playing.
01:54:05.000 They will mimic your moves to see what the ultimate computer does and then imitate the computer.
01:54:10.000 The problem is that they're also tracking for perfect moves.
01:54:15.000 And if your play is perfect, then they're going to catch you cheating.
01:54:20.000 It's not perfect.
01:54:21.000 Some people can get away with it, you know.
01:54:24.000 HS Disturbed says Have you guys been on arcade.gov yet?
01:54:27.000 Indeed.
01:54:27.000 Yes.
01:54:28.000 Indeed.
01:54:29.000 Did we have that pulled up?
01:54:30.000 Yeah.
01:54:31.000 We were playing a little bit today.
01:54:33.000 I like the Tetris wheel.
01:54:34.000 It just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
01:54:35.000 Oh, does it?
01:54:37.000 But I don't.
01:54:38.000 It's like, what do you do?
01:54:40.000 Here's Tom Homan arresting illegal immigrants.
01:54:43.000 The White House said that they want to.
01:54:44.000 To want people to share their high scores.
01:54:48.000 So we want you to play and share the high scores with the White House.
01:54:51.000 I guess if you get one of the highest scores, they'll probably put it on the White House website.
01:54:57.000 Maybe you'll get to.
01:54:58.000 For deported.
01:54:59.000 You get to meet Tom Oman.
01:55:00.000 It's called Rio Run.
01:55:01.000 Donald Trump.
01:55:02.000 Yeah.
01:55:04.000 There you go.
01:55:05.000 This is a job application for the White House.
01:55:07.000 Yeah, right.
01:55:09.000 How are you at vibe coding?
01:55:14.000 Yeah, but I think they actually did the art for this.
01:55:18.000 Maybe.
01:55:19.000 I don't know.
01:55:19.000 Maybe they use like GPT or something.
01:55:22.000 I'm sure they can get access to the new open AI video game model.
01:55:26.000 Oh, look at Tom.
01:55:28.000 He's personally arresting these people.
01:55:30.000 Look how they all look.
01:55:31.000 I look like a duck.
01:55:32.000 The little orange trunk.
01:55:33.000 And you notice they got massive asses.
01:55:34.000 He's behind them picking them up, right?
01:55:39.000 See how big their asses are?
01:55:40.000 Look at that.
01:55:42.000 They got junk in a trunk.
01:55:48.000 And wait, wait, hold on.
01:55:48.000 Oh, yeah.
01:55:50.000 Yeah.
01:55:51.000 It's like they're the same people.
01:55:54.000 They get in a line, and it's like you can see, it's like the guy I arrest is the guy in the back.
01:55:59.000 Ah.
01:56:00.000 They just change outfits.
01:56:02.000 Yeah.
01:56:03.000 Orange jumpsuits.
01:56:04.000 Orange jumpsuits for criminals.
01:56:07.000 This is what I voted for wearing orange.
01:56:08.000 I voted for this too.
01:56:11.000 Oh, well, that was fun.
01:56:13.000 Yeah.
01:56:14.000 So, HS Disturbed says, My problem with data center here in Indiana is they're trying to build it on farms where I grew up.
01:56:21.000 It's less about the data center and more about the location.
01:56:23.000 Completely agreed.
01:56:24.000 The issue of land conversion is not data centers.
01:56:28.000 So, that's my point.
01:56:30.000 What is it about data centers specifically?
01:56:33.000 If you're mad about eminent domain, you're mad about eminent domain.
01:56:35.000 If you're mad that somebody's trying to take over a farm and build something on it, it could be an Amazon warehouse.
01:56:42.000 So they're targeting data centers when the issue is unrelated to data centers.
01:56:49.000 Chris Barnard from the ACC had an interesting proposal where we should be building the data centers in brownfields, contaminated land that we can't use for anything else, because that doesn't really affect the viability of a data center.
01:57:02.000 I think that's probably the middle ground for just about everyone involved, as we get to utilize land that's pretty much.
01:57:08.000 Can't be used, quite frankly, in the NFL.
01:57:10.000 Huge data center.
01:57:11.000 Gary, Indiana.
01:57:12.000 That could be like data center city, dude.
01:57:14.000 There's a lot of just completely polluted land there that's being unused.
01:57:18.000 Y'all being mean to Gary.
01:57:21.000 Scary.
01:57:21.000 Well, they might get a football team here soon.
01:57:23.000 Scary Gary.
01:57:26.000 They might be the new home of the Chicago Bears.
01:57:29.000 Well, Hammond.
01:57:29.000 Hammond Bears.
01:57:30.000 Same thing.
01:57:31.000 And they dare say, we're going to keep the name Chicago, even though we're in Hammond, Indiana.
01:57:34.000 Well, that's like New York officially only has one NFL team because the Jets and Giants are clearly Jersey football teams.
01:57:41.000 KC85 says 11 jurors know that violent liberals will hunt them down for voting the wrong way, while conservatives would only complain.
01:57:48.000 We actually don't know the direction they're going.
01:57:49.000 They may be trying to convict, they may be trying to acquit.
01:57:51.000 We don't know.
01:57:54.000 Basically, Nuclear says if socialists and Democrats want debt forgiveness, they should have to relinquish their degree and credentials too.
01:57:59.000 No, you can't vote anymore.
01:58:00.000 Like, here's a proposal I agree.
01:58:04.000 I will agree to pay off student loan debt, and I think every conservative would.
01:58:08.000 If in exchange, anyone who has their debt forgiven is ineligible to vote forever.
01:58:14.000 How did that sound?
01:58:15.000 There you go.
01:58:16.000 I like that.
01:58:16.000 There you go.
01:58:17.000 You didn't say that before.
01:58:19.000 No, you can't vote anymore, but we'll pass it.
01:58:19.000 Yeah.
01:58:21.000 I said that before.
01:58:21.000 Just get people off the voter rolls.
01:58:24.000 Fewer people should be voting.
01:58:26.000 Belgian says female vote is a serious problem.
01:58:29.000 Not sorry for saying it.
01:58:30.000 Understand women on the panel today are great, but we are in serious trouble in the West.
01:58:36.000 No, we're not.
01:58:37.000 Well, women do follow macro level voting patterns, and they tend to.
01:58:42.000 I mean, voters, not.
01:58:43.000 Is it?
01:58:44.000 Voters, not candidates.
01:58:45.000 Not candidates.
01:58:47.000 Well, actually, candidates, yes, but that's insane for you as an individual.
01:58:47.000 I've got.
01:58:52.000 I think the Democratic Party has more women.
01:58:54.000 Is that true?
01:58:55.000 They tend to vote a certain way.
01:58:57.000 Women overreact.
01:58:58.000 Are they women?
01:58:59.000 Yeah.
01:59:00.000 Yep.
01:59:01.000 There's no comparison.
01:59:04.000 Yep.
01:59:05.000 And then I think the Democrats have two gender categories they've got angry feminist women who empathize with criminals and simp guys who are desperate to get laid.
01:59:17.000 And then on the Republican side, you've got.
01:59:20.000 You've got greedy corporate narcissists and women who just want to have kids and not have to be working moms.
01:59:27.000 So, those are the distinctions.
01:59:29.000 Conservative women are the only ones who get any real credit in my morality scale.
01:59:34.000 Thank you.
01:59:34.000 Even though I'm joking.
01:59:35.000 I know you are.
01:59:37.000 A lot of conservative.
01:59:38.000 You know what it is?
01:59:38.000 On the right, whatever they call conservative, it's like a guy who's like, I'd like to have a regular job as long as it pays enough so I can feed my family.
01:59:45.000 And the left, they're like, we want to burn down the entirety of the country and destroy the American way of life.
01:59:49.000 We don't want kids.
01:59:50.000 We think kids are awful.
01:59:51.000 And we want to transition them, give weird books to kids, and do naughty things in public.
01:59:55.000 And you're just like, man, I just wanted to have a job, you know?
01:59:59.000 Yeah.
02:00:00.000 That's what you get.
02:00:03.000 Sergeant Stoic says on 85 IQ propaganda, they don't refute it.
02:00:06.000 They just jump on board.
02:00:08.000 Flock has a monopoly on surveillance hardware.
02:00:10.000 Data centers is private farmland.
02:00:12.000 It's a push for public demand for legislation against it.
02:00:16.000 Like, you know, I'll say it again.
02:00:17.000 There's a Christmas tree farm in Maryland, Mount Airy.
02:00:22.000 They want to build power lines next to it.
02:00:24.000 And they're like, yo, don't do that.
02:00:26.000 That's not data center, that's power lines.
02:00:28.000 And power lines would happen eventually.
02:00:31.000 But I understand why they're mad.
02:00:32.000 They're trying to do the same thing by us.
02:00:32.000 I agree.
02:00:34.000 But again, Like, it doesn't matter who's building what, it matters that they're taking your land.
02:00:40.000 So, it's not a data center issue entirely.
02:00:42.000 Yeah, I'm all for the, you know, preserving the environment.
02:00:48.000 Not in the crazy climate change BS way, but you know what I mean.
02:00:52.000 Like, certainly here in Maryland and Virginia, I mean, we have some gorgeous farmland that we can cultivate.
02:01:00.000 Well, what is it?
02:01:01.000 The three western counties of Maryland want to join West Virginia, right?
02:01:03.000 Yeah.
02:01:04.000 Yeah.
02:01:05.000 You see, we don't actually live in a democracy when a county votes and says we want to do something, and the government's like, you can't do that.
02:01:12.000 If we were actually a democracy, we could secede from whatever state we wanted not from the country, but from any state or local jurisdiction if we wanted to.
02:01:19.000 But we're not a democracy.
02:01:20.000 That's make believe.
02:01:22.000 You should find, like, they should comb through, find the border county with the highest population in a blue state that's bordering a red state, and then drop every South African refugee in that county to flip it Republican.
02:01:35.000 Then they secede.
02:01:36.000 Join the red state, and then it gives us more electoral votes for the red state.
02:01:40.000 There you go.
02:01:40.000 It's my long term strategy.
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02:03:48.000 Let's talk about this.
02:03:50.000 So, yeah, the woman who got killed, the leftists are now celebrating it.
02:03:56.000 Yep, of course.
02:03:57.000 Oh, good Lord.
02:03:58.000 The knife woman?
02:03:59.000 Yep.
02:04:01.000 They're celebrating it.
02:04:03.000 Because she was a Bank of America executive, and they're like, well, BOA supports Israel, so.
02:04:07.000 Oh, God, that's the reason.
02:04:10.000 It's not the banking industry, it's because of the support of Israel.
02:04:14.000 It's the Omni cause, and right now it has shifted to Palestinian support.
02:04:19.000 It's so ridiculous.
02:04:20.000 See, they literally, that's what I'm saying.
02:04:22.000 They're trying to create this kind of populist sensibility that, ooh, it's cool to, you know, side with whatever cause they decide to pick on.
02:04:35.000 But I'm telling you, people aren't, it's not as big as we think.
02:04:40.000 That's just my take.
02:04:42.000 The far left?
02:04:42.000 You know what I mean?
02:04:43.000 I disagree.
02:04:44.000 I think.
02:04:45.000 If you've found things like that, I think it's bigger than we think.
02:04:47.000 I think most people presume it to be very small.
02:04:50.000 And it's actually bigger than it is.
02:04:52.000 Hassan Piker regularly has millions of subscribers.
02:04:55.000 And he's going to all of his.
02:04:56.000 Where?
02:04:57.000 China?
02:04:58.000 People who show up to his rallies in mass.
02:05:00.000 He filled a theater.
02:05:01.000 Are they paid?
02:05:02.000 Are they like.
02:05:03.000 Hassan Piker has fans and they're showing up and paying to go see him in theaters.
02:05:07.000 Are they here in theaters?
02:05:08.000 And he's sold the American New Yorkers that filled up a theater for this guy and were screaming and cheering for him as he mocked Charlie Kirk's murder.
02:05:16.000 Yes, they exist.
02:05:16.000 They're real.
02:05:18.000 And they put him in magazines, they put him on newspapers.
02:05:25.000 The dude's dominated the headlines for the past two or three weeks because he has become so prominent in the Democratic Party.
02:05:31.000 He's campaigning with Al Sayed, and Al Sayed's had to issue statements pushing back on him.
02:05:37.000 Yeah, it's pretty rough.
02:05:39.000 He averages something like 30,000, 25,000 viewers on his stream every day.
02:05:46.000 He's got like 2 million followers.
02:05:47.000 Is that what it really is?
02:05:48.000 20, 30?
02:05:49.000 I think so, yeah.
02:05:50.000 Because I remember he had a big drop off at one point.
02:05:53.000 I mean, we're doing around like 25 to 30.
02:05:57.000 Off season, recess, it's a slug.
02:06:01.000 I mean, but he's, you know, he's, he's, he spent the last like week just, I guess, I don't watch his stream, but I see a lot of people, I watch a lot of people that react to his streams and stuff or stuff that he says.
02:06:14.000 He spent, I guess, like the last week just complaining about people that are trying to get the Democrats to disavow him.
02:06:20.000 He said really, really inflammatory things.
02:06:22.000 And look, if you're a Democrat and you've got this guy coming out and coming to your rallies or speaking, You know, introducing you or whatever.
02:06:31.000 Like, he's the guy that said America deserved 9 11.
02:06:34.000 He said, let their capitalist blood, he's like, you know, kill them, kill them, let their capitalist blood flow in the streets.
02:06:42.000 You know, he said, you know, he said, if you actually, I forget what the context was, but he said, if you actually believe this, you should kill Rick Scott.
02:06:52.000 It had something to do with healthcare.
02:06:54.000 But yeah, I mean, he swears up and down that he's just a normal Democrat, or he's a DSA guy, but he just wants people to have healthcare.
02:07:04.000 But then, You know, he's saying things like, oh, you know, we're going to expropriate the property of the wealthy and stuff.
02:07:11.000 So he's total garbage.
02:07:14.000 And to top it off, he's an anchor baby.
02:07:17.000 He's an anchor baby.
02:07:18.000 I mean, yeah, we can look at numbers in New York and I don't know.
02:07:22.000 I just.
02:07:23.000 He's basically the.
02:07:26.000 And I think one of the worst things about Pike or about the whole situation is Twitch protects the hell out of him.
02:07:31.000 Like he gets like a day ban if he says something.
02:07:35.000 He gets banned so many times, but he's always back.
02:07:37.000 Well, not only has he been.
02:07:37.000 Yeah.
02:07:39.000 Not only has he been banned multiple times, they're always really short bands.
02:07:43.000 And there's this guy that I'm personally not a fan of.
02:07:46.000 His name's Destiny.
02:07:47.000 He got banned from Twitch forever for like half of what Piker's done.
02:07:54.000 Asmongold catches two week bans all the time.
02:07:58.000 And I think Piker's usually banned for like a day or two when he gets banned.
02:08:04.000 So it's disheartening because he is the epitome of everything you don't want as an American.
02:08:13.000 Like I said, he's an anchor baby.
02:08:15.000 He used to be.
02:08:16.000 He's not an American.
02:08:18.000 No, no.
02:08:18.000 I mean, he's an ounce of American value.
02:08:20.000 He says he hates America and he loves China.
02:08:22.000 Consistently says he hates America.
02:08:24.000 You know, so yeah, he's garbage.
02:08:27.000 But what are you going to do?
02:08:30.000 He's probably the most popular political leftist streamer.
02:08:35.000 And I don't know how much of his audience is American versus foreign.
02:08:42.000 I do think that he's probably got a significant portion.
02:08:49.000 Of his audiences for him, but I don't think it's definitely the majority.
02:08:55.000 He's got a lot of people in the US that follow him and pay attention, and he's unfortunately extremely influential.
02:09:04.000 But what are you going to do if Twitch won't kick him off?
02:09:08.000 Well, the guy who runs Twitch agreed to them.
02:09:11.000 He watches his stream.
02:09:13.000 I forget what the guy's name is.
02:09:14.000 Dan Clancy, I think, is his name, but he's mentioned how he enjoys watching Piker's streams all the time.
02:09:21.000 At some point, you'd hope that Bezos would be like, hey, what the hell's going on?
02:09:25.000 Yeah, right?
02:09:26.000 You know, I've been waiting for that.
02:09:27.000 I think I even posted about that.
02:09:29.000 Hello, Bezos.
02:09:30.000 Yeah, I mean, Twitch overall has that kind of like the people that are moderators and the people that are not moderators, but people that work at Twitch are largely leftist.
02:09:40.000 So out of all of the platforms out there, they're the ones that come down really hard on conservatives or people that are not leftists, whereas leftists get just a slap on the wrist.
02:09:55.000 Um, and there are plenty of leftists that stream on Twitch, so but what are you gonna do?
02:10:02.000 I mean, you but you know what?
02:10:03.000 So, what let them stream on Twitch?
02:10:05.000 There, or we could just you know get rid of Anchor Babies and get rid of Hassan.
02:10:10.000 That would be just like literally fix everything.
02:10:12.000 It's like there is a fix everything button, there's a solution to every single thing we're dealing with right now, and it's very simple.
02:10:19.000 So, yeah, just implement it.
02:10:21.000 Yeah, it well, I mean, it's according to the Supreme Court, apparently, I'm seeing some.
02:10:27.000 Some action.
02:10:27.000 Well, yeah, but I mean, according to the Supreme Court, it's unconstitutional, which is ridiculous in my opinion.
02:10:34.000 But, you know, that seems to be a moot point at this point.
02:10:42.000 To get the Supreme Court to hear a case regarding, you know, birthright citizenship again, I mean, it's probably going to have to be a whole new court and there's going to have to be some kind of, some different condition that brings it up.
02:10:54.000 You know, it was 50 years from Roe versus Wade being passed to, you know, To when it was overturned.
02:11:03.000 And to be honest with you, like the argument for overturning it or the argument for Roe versus Wade being quote unquote constitutional, like that was specious in the first place.
02:11:14.000 Like even Ruth Bader Ginsburg said, well, you know, we got the outcome we wanted, but the actual argument being made in the decision was terrible.
02:11:23.000 The argument being made for birthright citizenship, that's got far more substance to it than the Roe argument.
02:11:33.000 The Roe argument was.
02:11:35.000 Real bad.
02:11:36.000 And as much as I don't like the decision from the Supreme Court about birthright citizenship, I do think that there is a legitimate argument about them.
02:11:47.000 People that are born, if you're born here and taken out of the country, or if you're born to parents that are here illegally, you're not subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
02:11:57.000 I think that's a substantial argument.
02:11:59.000 And the Supreme Court just didn't, the majority of the court didn't find the argument compelling.
02:12:06.000 But I do think that there's way more substance to that one.
02:12:09.000 Than Theroux.
02:12:10.000 So, what are you going to do?
02:12:14.000 Want to go to callers?
02:12:16.000 Let's do it.
02:12:17.000 Let's see what the callers are on about.
02:12:18.000 We got Brian, major threat.
02:12:22.000 What's up, man?
02:12:22.000 What is up?
02:12:23.000 What's up, Brian?
02:12:24.000 What's up, Brian?
02:12:28.000 Brian, don't let us down.
02:12:30.000 Oh, that's my fault again.
02:12:31.000 Uh oh.
02:12:33.000 Brian, what up?
02:12:37.000 Major threat.
02:12:39.000 Brian.
02:12:40.000 You're on his end.
02:12:41.000 He is indeed.
02:12:45.000 Brian.
02:12:47.000 There you go.
02:12:47.000 Yeah.
02:12:48.000 What up?
02:12:49.000 What's up, man?
02:12:51.000 Oh, hey.
02:12:52.000 Thanks for having me on once again.
02:12:57.000 It's me, Brian, frequent caller, occasional listener, and relevant to this discussion, retired Army officer.
02:13:05.000 My question for the panel is what is going on with the Department of the Army?
02:13:10.000 Was Driscoll pushed out, or did he have an honest disagreement with Hegseth that caused him to require?
02:13:17.000 That caused him to resign.
02:13:18.000 What do you guys think?
02:13:21.000 I don't know.
02:13:22.000 I haven't looked into it or heard any of the scuttlebutt regarding the situation.
02:13:29.000 I mean, look, it could be either.
02:13:34.000 It could be just that.
02:13:35.000 I mean, I guess at the end of the day, whether he was pushed out or had an honest disagreement, it's kind of the same thing, right?
02:13:43.000 Like, if he's just like, hey, this is a bad situation.
02:13:47.000 You know, bad war that we've gotten ourselves into, and the situation isn't getting better with the strategy that we have.
02:13:59.000 You know, whether he was like, I'm going to resign because of this, or they said, Well, we want to find someone that believes in the mission, doesn't really matter.
02:14:07.000 You know, it's the same result.
02:14:09.000 He's out.
02:14:11.000 And so the Department of War is in a position where they got to fill his shoes.
02:14:16.000 But I don't know that.
02:14:18.000 You know, I don't know that it's important as to why, you know, if he wasn't, if he didn't believe in the mission and he said, you know, I don't, I, he made that clear to the Secretary of War, or if the Secretary of War, you know, yeah, if he made that clear to the Secretary of War and the Secretary of War was like, well, then you got to go, or he was like, hey, I don't believe in the mission, so I'm going to resign.
02:14:39.000 It does, it's, there's not a whole lot of difference between the two, in my opinion.
02:14:44.000 Yeah, there's always been a bit, at least since the beginning of the year, there's been some tension between Driscoll and, and, Teg Seth, I think the Trump admin broadly, there was reporting a few months ago that Driscoll's wife was donating to, what's her name?
02:15:00.000 Goodlander, one of the Democrats.
02:15:02.000 Goodlander, she's my representative in New Hampshire.
02:15:06.000 Yeah, yeah, the Seditious Six or whatever they call them.
02:15:09.000 And she'd been donating to them.
02:15:11.000 And their explanation was, well, we've been friends for years.
02:15:13.000 And it was kind of like, okay, kind of, you can't make a value judgment off someone's wife necessarily, but that caused a bit of a rift.
02:15:19.000 And there was another story about, How Driscoll went to meet with Zelensky without Hegseth's approval.
02:15:26.000 And that was a bit controversial as well.
02:15:28.000 So, like, clearly Driscoll's been out of lockstep with the Trump admin for a while.
02:15:35.000 And then also, it's tough to say because, like, I don't know how the Iran war is not going quite as hot.
02:15:43.000 I don't, not quite as hot.
02:15:44.000 It's not going the way we want it at all.
02:15:47.000 I don't know how much of that is the fault of the Army.
02:15:49.000 I mean, the Army's, this isn't really their domain.
02:15:51.000 This has been mostly an Air Force operation, bit of Marines ready to go.
02:15:57.000 And then the Navy.
02:15:58.000 It's tough to say.
02:15:59.000 In a row.
02:16:00.000 So I don't think Driscoll got scalped for performance during the Iran war.
02:16:04.000 Some people are saying, like, oh, he went to.
02:16:07.000 There's one guy, this Dominic Trippie guy, and he was like, oh, well, Driscoll went to Hegseth and told him the war was unwinnable, and then Hegseth crashed out and fired him.
02:16:16.000 I haven't seen that corroborated anywhere.
02:16:18.000 Everyone's repeating that like it's gospel.
02:16:20.000 Who knows?
02:16:21.000 I'll keep an eye on Axios and all of them to see if there's any further reporting on what specifically went down.
02:16:21.000 We'll see.
02:16:26.000 My guess would just be they've been out of lockstep for a while, and then they probably just.
02:16:31.000 Increasingly distanced.
02:16:33.000 As we've seen with a few other people in the admin that have left, they kind of get siloed from the rest of the admin, like kind of the core team, and they get increasingly frustrated.
02:16:41.000 And then there's kind of a mutual departure.
02:16:43.000 So I would assume that's what's going on.
02:16:46.000 I think they asked Vance about it today, and he's like, oh, yeah, you know, Driscoll, I like the guy.
02:16:49.000 It just was time to go.
02:16:50.000 So it's tough to say without any like concrete reporting, but I would definitely, you know, provide the context that Driscoll has been out of step with the admin at certain points over the last year.
02:17:04.000 Yeah.
02:17:05.000 Does that, uh, you got anything you want to add or a follow up?
02:17:09.000 Well, I would just like to throw my name in the hat for a possible replacement.
02:17:14.000 I am a retired officer.
02:17:16.000 I'm qualified.
02:17:18.000 Uh, yeah.
02:17:19.000 So Brian for Secretary of the Army.
02:17:22.000 Brian Major Threat for Secretary of the Army.
02:17:24.000 Sounds great to me, man.
02:17:26.000 Same.
02:17:27.000 Yay, Brian.
02:17:28.000 Well, they announced, um, they announced that they're using the, they're going to elevate the Assistant Secretary to be the Secretary.
02:17:35.000 Okay.
02:17:35.000 I don't know anything about the guy.
02:17:37.000 But you know, Kung Hao, I think, is the secretary of Navy now.
02:17:40.000 Yeah, he's awesome.
02:17:41.000 Yeah, hung cow.
02:17:43.000 Yeah, hung cow, right?
02:17:44.000 It's hung cow.
02:17:45.000 Yeah, did I say Kung Hao?
02:17:46.000 Yeah, the tweet announcing it was right.
02:17:47.000 The tweet just died.
02:17:48.000 Racism, no signal.
02:17:50.000 There was a Trump one, Trump's post announcing it was something along the lines of, We need someone hung like hung to be the secretary of the Navy.
02:17:56.000 It's like, We need hung patriots to be in Georgia.
02:18:00.000 So true, President Trump.
02:18:03.000 Uh, we lost our monitor.
02:18:04.000 Ruh, oh, uh, do you have a monitor?
02:18:07.000 Hello, mine's still going.
02:18:10.000 Hey, you there.
02:18:12.000 Yeah, I'm still here.
02:18:14.000 Yeah, we're at it.
02:18:15.000 It's a visual problem, not audio.
02:18:16.000 You're good.
02:18:19.000 Before I sign off, as some of you may know, I am a stroke survivor.
02:18:24.000 I've got occupational therapy.
02:18:26.000 It's not a problem.
02:18:26.000 I would love it if you could come teach me how to tie my shoes again.
02:18:32.000 Where do you live?
02:18:34.000 That's okay.
02:18:35.000 It's all good.
02:18:36.000 All right, man.
02:18:39.000 Take care.
02:18:40.000 Well, thanks for calling.
02:18:41.000 Take care, bud.
02:18:42.000 Bye, Brian.
02:18:42.000 Yeah.
02:18:44.000 We got us a technical difficulty, ladies and gentlemen.
02:18:48.000 The monitor went out.
02:18:50.000 It says no signal.
02:18:51.000 No signal, okay.
02:18:53.000 Monitor went out, and we can't bring anyone back in.
02:18:57.000 No, you can bring it in, okay.
02:18:59.000 For the time being, is Major Threat done?
02:19:02.000 He's good.
02:19:03.000 Okay, let me get.
02:19:04.000 Let's see.
02:19:06.000 We've got.
02:19:11.000 Rothmagor coming in here right now.
02:19:15.000 What's up, Rothmagor?
02:19:16.000 How are you doing?
02:19:20.000 Roth McGoar.
02:19:21.000 The mute was a little bit slow on the click there, but we have Roth McGoar now.
02:19:26.000 Rotham Gore.
02:19:28.000 Hey, how are you doing, bud?
02:19:28.000 Hi.
02:19:30.000 Oh, hi.
02:19:32.000 Thanks for taking my call.
02:19:32.000 I'm good.
02:19:35.000 Thanks for calling in, man.
02:19:37.000 So, with the military recruitment struggling and many young people lacking discipline and purpose, should the military offer a basic training only contract with an option to extend?
02:19:50.000 Well, where do you get the information that the recruiting is struggling?
02:19:54.000 Because the stuff that I've heard is that since the Trump administration.
02:20:00.000 Gotten to office, they've been hitting the recruiting goals pretty early, actually.
02:20:06.000 I think ROTC would be.
02:20:09.000 Sorry, I originally had a longer question, but Charles condensed it for me.
02:20:13.000 So that was part of the.
02:20:15.000 Charlie?
02:20:17.000 I mean, the ROTC or JROTC functionally does that where you're provided military training.
02:20:22.000 I mean, not like obviously full fledged training, but like basic training.
02:20:27.000 And then you have the option to go into the military afterwards.
02:20:31.000 There's probably not much need to train people after the age of like, I don't know, 27, 28, because they're not going to have a full career in the Army or Navy or anything.
02:20:40.000 So they probably don't want to invest too much money into that.
02:20:43.000 So I feel like JROTC probably gets the job done there.
02:20:47.000 I mean, maybe they could expand it.
02:20:48.000 That could be interesting.
02:20:51.000 But.
02:20:52.000 Well, with JROTC, it's kind of like there's like a stigma to it.
02:20:58.000 And I was in JROTC, and there was definitely a stigma from the other kids.
02:21:02.000 Yeah.
02:21:03.000 It's like towards us, like it was great there.
02:21:05.000 We were cohesive.
02:21:06.000 We were all, it was like a unit.
02:21:09.000 We were all like friendly, but like so.
02:21:13.000 But when you get out of high school, then you'll get the experience of actually going to boot camp, it'll be real, but you won't be locked in, is what I'm thinking.
02:21:22.000 Yeah, like kind of like a not campus based ROTC, and then there's no contract requirement.
02:21:28.000 That could be interesting.
02:21:30.000 I don't know.
02:21:31.000 I mean, I guess the army would have to like test drive it, and if they don't have a good retention rate, they'll probably stop.
02:21:36.000 Using it.
02:21:36.000 I mean, they don't want to invest money into training people if only like 3% of them end up actually signing up.
02:21:43.000 So, you know, there'd be need to be some sort of ROI for the military to conduct sort of an investment like that because that'd be pretty expensive.
02:21:53.000 Yeah.
02:21:55.000 Yeah.
02:21:56.000 I don't have a whole lot to add.
02:21:57.000 Like I said, I'm not sure that, like I said, I thought that the, or I was under the impression that the military had been reaching their, their, or their, Recruitment goals after the end of the Biden administration.
02:22:12.000 So I had to thinking about it, I heard that their recruitment was well up too, but yeah, sorry about that.
02:22:20.000 That's right.
02:22:22.000 Yeah, so I figure even if there's not necessarily a jump in recruiting or even like maybe even numbers might go down a bit, I figure like how many young men would still take the contract to just have the experience and then they would get the discipline and And camaraderie and like patriotism, like drilled into them.
02:22:48.000 So, personally, I'm one of the people that thinks that if you're the kind of person that wants to join the military, that stuff comes naturally.
02:22:59.000 You know, you hear a lot of people.
02:23:06.000 You don't want those kind of issues.
02:23:08.000 What's that?
02:23:10.000 Are you there?
02:23:13.000 Hello?
02:23:14.000 Hello?
02:23:30.000 I think there's connection issues.
02:23:32.000 Uh oh.
02:23:33.000 Yeah.
02:23:33.000 I'm not a.
02:23:35.000 I don't know what to say, buddy.
02:23:37.000 You can see us in the OBS, right?
02:23:39.000 I think we're back.
02:23:39.000 Okay.
02:23:40.000 There we go.
02:23:40.000 All right.
02:23:41.000 So, yeah.
02:23:42.000 Like I said, the kind of person that says, you know, oh, you know, I can't do this because I wouldn't join the military because I'd punch my drill instructor in the face.
02:23:51.000 You know, like you don't want that kind of person joining the military, right?
02:23:55.000 Like, I mean, even though it's like, you know, it's a pose or it's just an excuse or, you know, whatever, trying to, you know, Kind of person to join the military.
02:24:08.000 You want someone that's motivated to do the things that the military is going to teach them to do.
02:24:15.000 You know, personally, I didn't think that, you know, basic was particularly looking to do.
02:24:36.000 Going to be something that's going to attract more people.
02:24:41.000 I think that, and I think that the people that end up going in and, you know, finishing basically, they're there because they want to be there.
02:24:48.000 So, not to throw a wet blanket on your question or anything like that.
02:24:52.000 I mean, but that's just kind of like the, that's the one of the really good things or good, you know, good aspects of having a volunteer military.
02:25:02.000 The people that are there are there because they want to be there.
02:25:05.000 And you don't have a lot of people that are, you know, dropping out or trying to come up with an excuse to get out or what have you.
02:25:11.000 Like there, there's, there's, if you had a situation where people had the option when they're in there or option at the end, I imagine that if they, you know, that they're probably going to stay in.
02:25:25.000 So, you know, I'm not sure that that would actually produce the results that you're looking for.
02:25:34.000 Maybe, right?
02:25:35.000 It's kind of like a hypothetical that just needs a lot of, Thought and discussion over.
02:25:41.000 Yeah.
02:25:42.000 You got anything, any follow ups or anything?
02:25:45.000 Just a shout out to the hairy nosed daughter.
02:25:48.000 It's not the most well known, but deserves love all the same.
02:25:51.000 All right, man.
02:25:53.000 Thanks for calling in, man.
02:25:54.000 Right on.
02:25:55.000 It's all you.
02:25:55.000 I haven't got a monitor.
02:25:57.000 We will carry this on throughout.
02:26:01.000 Thanks for calling in, man.
02:26:03.000 Let's do, last but not least, we've got, let's see.
02:26:13.000 We've got.
02:26:16.000 What's this person's name?
02:26:20.000 Okay, yeah, Discord is being a little finicky right now, but we have.
02:26:26.000 If I can scroll down far enough.
02:26:32.000 Unmute.
02:26:35.000 Cancel that.
02:26:38.000 Yellow.
02:26:39.000 Yellow?
02:26:40.000 That is just my version of hello because I cannot read the name.
02:26:43.000 Who do we got on the line here?
02:26:45.000 Who is it?
02:26:46.000 And welcome.
02:26:48.000 And can you hear us?
02:26:49.000 Oh, he is muted.
02:26:50.000 Okay, now you are unmuted, sir.
02:26:52.000 How are you going?
02:26:53.000 Who are we talking to?
02:26:54.000 I don't know if you're looking for me or not.
02:26:58.000 Yes, sir.
02:26:59.000 I'm looking for you.
02:27:00.000 We are looking for you, yes.
02:27:02.000 Thanks for having me.
02:27:03.000 Thanks for calling.
02:27:05.000 Who are you?
02:27:06.000 My name's Tim.
02:27:07.000 I got a question for you guys.
02:27:08.000 I know I've heard people saying the victors always win.
02:27:12.000 You know what, the truth is in history.
02:27:14.000 Has anybody considered that's not true completely anymore?
02:27:14.000 Yeah.
02:27:19.000 Does media understand the importance of having, say, an archive, something to go back on?
02:27:24.000 I think a lot of times Tim won't have something on a show to pull up right away.
02:27:30.000 So why they might need it.
02:27:32.000 You're making the argument that now in the age of the internet, the winners don't always write the history?
02:27:41.000 I would say that things right now, Are not going to be what they were.
02:27:45.000 I mean, you have AI coming for long.
02:27:47.000 So things are going to change drastically.
02:27:48.000 And what the reality of something will be is going to be drastically different.
02:27:53.000 Like, say, for example, you can look at school right now.
02:27:57.000 Schools have bad teachers, but you could put the best teacher in every single school.
02:27:59.000 People are just too stupid to think of it.
02:28:02.000 And the same thing is going to be true with things going back.
02:28:03.000 But with AI coming, and you guys are already saying censorship is coming back, what your points are and the proof isn't going to be there.
02:28:12.000 Yeah.
02:28:13.000 I mean, I think most people are familiar with.
02:28:17.000 Or have had the experience of being like, you know, I read this somewhere, but I can't find it right now.
02:28:23.000 Or, you know, I saw this and I can't find it, you know?
02:28:28.000 So, I don't know that that means that the victors will not write the history in the future, but I do understand the point that you're making because, you know, like I said, everyone's had kind of an experience.
02:28:42.000 I definitely had them where it's like, I'm sure I read this, but I can't find the link or what have you.
02:28:48.000 So, yeah, I don't know.
02:28:51.000 I don't know.
02:28:52.000 But I do think that at the very least, like, you know, there is still.
02:28:58.000 You know, the capacity to physically write things down.
02:29:03.000 People still have that skill set.
02:29:06.000 So, there's a phenomenon, I forgot what they're calling it, but it's the death of expertise because of AI.
02:29:12.000 The ability to use a program to make art is going to be gone because everyone's going to use AI.
02:29:17.000 The ability to film movies is going to be erased by AI because what we're going to do is we're going to tell the AI what shots we like and what we don't, refining it.
02:29:24.000 And so it will always produce high level cinematic imagery.
02:29:30.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:29:33.000 So, yeah, I mean, yeah, like, I, I, you know, no one, no one can see the future, uh, but I mean, it is a real possibility, you know, where you're, you're not getting the, uh, the, the accurate, uh, retelling of history.
02:29:51.000 But I mean, at the same time, it's like even now, people still kind of say, well, you know, looking back, do we really know this happened?
02:30:00.000 Do we really know that happened?
02:30:02.000 Um, And it's because of the argument that the victors write history, right?
02:30:08.000 So if you talk to people on the left, you know, we talk about communists here all the time.
02:30:12.000 If you talk to communists, they'll tell you that all the history about the CIA or about the Soviet Union was all BS and it was all the CIA and it was all an op and that actually Russia, the Soviet Union was good.
02:30:27.000 And if it wasn't for the CIA, the Soviet Union would still be in existence and et cetera.
02:30:32.000 Yeah.
02:30:33.000 So that's a phenomenon that, you know, we see even now.
02:30:37.000 So.
02:30:38.000 Yeah, I think the reason why I asked that specific is I think it's more of a byproduct, and it's too long to do on the call right now, kind of show it.
02:30:46.000 But I think media does something very differently than me because I, for a living, decipher things down a little bit differently to tell somebody the conversation that they're actually in.
02:30:57.000 So I'll bring that forward later.
02:31:00.000 But I think media has an issue with trying to deliver a message and not understanding that they're trying to deliver their point and not the point.
02:31:10.000 Yeah, well, I don't know that they don't understand that.
02:31:13.000 I think that most media nowadays, even if they deny it, they're pretty aware that they're delivering a perspective.
02:31:24.000 Maybe 25 years ago, people in newsrooms just kind of thought, well, we have this, we try to have both sides and we try to be honest.
02:31:36.000 And you might have been able to make a good faith argument.
02:31:41.000 About that back then, because you know, people that live in people that are on in media they tend to live in cities, so or you know, close to urban areas, and so they have a certain perspective that's different than people in the rest of the country.
02:31:54.000 So, you could make an argument that they were being good faith nowadays, they can even people in good faith can.
02:32:03.000 Um, they are gonna be more of missing the framework, like I said, with the conversation they're in.
02:32:08.000 Like I said, everybody's gonna talk about whether or not they should have flock cameras right now.
02:32:12.000 However, they're not going to talk about what are the issues with flaw cameras.
02:32:14.000 Like, all right, well, people want to get rid of them.
02:32:16.000 They think of different reasons, but the big reason behind it is going to be private partnerships and the threat behind that.
02:32:21.000 And cops want a camera because they want to watch something.
02:32:24.000 But people are too stupid to point out the fact that cops want a camera and they could encrypt it and just buy their own.
02:32:29.000 You know, there's ways to get around a lot of major things that are happening right now.
02:32:33.000 There's not having a conversation that's actually open.
02:32:38.000 But you need that proof book to bring it forward.
02:32:41.000 I mean, yeah, I suppose that is true.
02:32:44.000 But yeah, I mean, I think that overall, you know, it's going to be a similar.
02:32:54.000 You know, similar issue in the future as to what we've kind of dealt with in the past.
02:32:59.000 Yeah, I can understand.
02:33:00.000 This is too much for a conversation.
02:33:01.000 I just wanted to see whether or not people had things on hand.
02:33:04.000 And I can come back to something else later, kind of show more of what I'm talking about.
02:33:08.000 Well, you got anything you want to add to it right now?
02:33:08.000 All right, man.
02:33:13.000 Oh, yeah.
02:33:13.000 You need to add to that?
02:33:15.000 No, I want to make it so that way people can actually understand it.
02:33:17.000 And they're not going to open this conversation.
02:33:19.000 I just kind of wanted to see what was there because that would be the first step in the next process.
02:33:23.000 All right, man.
02:33:23.000 Well, thanks for calling in.
02:33:24.000 You got anything you want to shout out?
02:33:26.000 I'll shout out to you.
02:33:27.000 I have Jim Fuller on.
02:33:29.000 Jim Fuller?
02:33:30.000 You're talking about the AK maker?
02:33:30.000 Yeah.
02:33:34.000 Jim's great, dude.
02:33:34.000 Yeah.
02:33:36.000 I haven't talked to Jim in a minute, but he's a great dude, man.
02:33:39.000 Come on, man.
02:33:40.000 I met him a couple times, but last time I met him, I was in Arizona.
02:33:44.000 We went to Haley Strategic.
02:33:47.000 He introduced me to Travis, and Travis showed me around the whole outfit there.
02:33:54.000 And it was really cool, man.
02:33:55.000 It was really cool.
02:33:56.000 So, but I'd love to have him on.
02:33:57.000 He's great.
02:33:58.000 I don't know how much he travels, though.
02:34:00.000 He's getting up there.
02:34:01.000 Yeah, man, it happens.
02:34:03.000 I think I said something to him online before.
02:34:03.000 Yeah.
02:34:06.000 He'll be on the show.
02:34:07.000 He totally accepts it.
02:34:08.000 Yeah, he still plays guitar a bunch.
02:34:11.000 He can still rip, too.
02:34:15.000 But, anyways, yeah.
02:34:15.000 I guess that's it.
02:34:17.000 Thanks for having me on.
02:34:18.000 I'll come back with something structured more.
02:34:19.000 I just kind of wanted to get that first picture first.
02:34:21.000 Sure, man.
02:34:23.000 Thanks for calling in, bud.
02:34:24.000 You want to shout anything out?
02:34:26.000 Anything specific?
02:34:28.000 Not that.
02:34:29.000 No.
02:34:30.000 All right, man.
02:34:31.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
02:34:31.000 Have a good one.
02:34:32.000 Good one.
02:34:32.000 I can't see anything because, you know, my monitor died.
02:34:34.000 Just everything is good on our end.
02:34:36.000 All right.
02:34:37.000 And I will go.
02:34:38.000 Wait a minute, we're callers?
02:34:39.000 Yeah, we are out of callers.
02:34:40.000 That's it.
02:34:40.000 Last one, man.
02:34:41.000 Hey, thanks for calling in, guys.
02:34:42.000 We're back tomorrow.
02:34:43.000 Cheryl, it was fun to have you.
02:34:44.000 Thanks for coming.
02:34:45.000 Appreciate it.
02:34:46.000 Thank you so much.
02:34:47.000 It was great to be here.
02:34:48.000 And, well, we're back tomorrow.
02:34:50.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.
02:34:51.000 And then we'll see you.
02:34:52.000 Well, then we're off for Labor Day.
02:34:53.000 You guys should be too.