Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - May 08, 2022


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On this week's episode of Sunday Uncensored, we take a look at Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood, and whether or not she was a racist or a eugenicist. Plus, a conspiracy theory about why women should be sterilized.

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00:00:23.000 Margaret Sanger was the, she founded Planned Parenthood, right?
00:00:27.000 And she was a eugenicist, right?
00:00:29.000 Yes, Margaret Sanger was an open eugenicist. 0.90
00:00:31.000 She spoke in front of a Klan meeting for women and she also repeatedly said that she had what was known, we can't see this on YouTube but I'm quoting the name of it, it was called the Negro Project. 0.99
00:00:42.000 This was an actual project she had named and the idea was What the fuck? 0.99
00:00:46.000 the black population and she said that they needed to work with black leaders 0.99
00:00:50.000 in their communities to convince the people to sterilize themselves to not 0.57
00:00:54.000 reproduce. Was Margaret Sanger a racist? 0.99
00:01:00.000 blah blah blah blah she was a eugenicist for books. 1.00
00:01:06.000 You know the left always talks about how they're on the right side of history
00:01:09.000 which is interesting because all of their predictions turn out to be wrong
00:01:11.000 after six months so that's a little bit strange but also with Margaret Sanger
00:01:15.000 she was a eugenicist because all of the early progressives were. Their movement
00:01:20.000 was in favor of eugenics.
00:01:22.000 Well, I think you misframed it.
00:01:24.000 Okay, well, NPR got us.
00:01:25.000 It's possible that just like Bill Gates, she doesn't want to reduce the population, she wants to slow the growth. 0.55
00:01:30.000 Because this says that it's about, she wanted to spread awareness of contraception to lower poverty rates in the South.
00:01:35.000 Okay, okay, she was a eugenicist. 0.98
00:01:38.000 NPR says she was, but not in the way Tucker Carlson is.
00:01:42.000 She was like, you know, like a good kind of eugenics. Yeah, not like a mean kind like Tucker said. 0.95
00:01:46.000 They're saying, eugenics is a discipline championed by prominent scientists, but now
00:01:50.000 widely debunked that promoted good breeding and aimed to prevent poor breeding. This idea was
00:01:56.000 the human race could be bettered through encouraging people with traits like intelligence,
00:01:59.000 hard work and cleanliness to reproduce. Eugenics was taken to its horrifying extreme during the
00:02:03.000 Holocaust. Oh, she just wanted to abort certain babies because she wanted to promote good breeding. 1.00
00:02:10.000 She was a discipline.
00:02:11.000 Yeah, it was a discipline.
00:02:13.000 It was just like the discipline that she was one of the forerunners of, which led to the Holocaust. 0.96
00:02:17.000 That's no big deal.
00:02:18.000 I have a conspiracy theory.
00:02:19.000 I want to hear it.
00:02:21.000 So, uh, Helena, you mentioned that Planned Parenthood gave you these pills.
00:02:24.000 Injections, but yes.
00:02:25.000 Injections?
00:02:26.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:02:27.000 Holy shit, I thought it was pills. 1.00
00:02:28.000 So wait, you were injecting yourself? 1.00
00:02:30.000 Yeah.
00:02:31.000 Wow, like right to your veins or what?
00:02:34.000 Uh, in the muscle, yeah, thigh.
00:02:36.000 So how fast does that happen?
00:02:38.000 Like, like it takes effect right away.
00:02:39.000 You're just like, no, no, no, no.
00:02:41.000 Uh, it's kind of like you, you do it to like maintain the testosterone levels.
00:02:45.000 I just, I was wondering if, I mean, these things lead to infertility.
00:02:51.000 Planned Parenthood just seems to generally want there to be less people.
00:02:54.000 I mean, yeah, it does lead to infertility. 0.63
00:02:57.000 Like, I didn't have that because I wasn't on it for long enough, but if a woman is on testosterone for enough years, like, her organs, her reproductive organs will start to die inside her body. 1.00
00:03:07.000 What about a dude? 0.99
00:03:09.000 Will those balls shrivel up? 0.99
00:03:10.000 I don't think it's as much of an issue with men, but I know for women it's like you have the ovaries, you have the uterus, and they need the hormones to stay alive. 0.98
00:03:19.000 If they don't have the hormones, they start to atrophy.
00:03:22.000 I said this before.
00:03:23.000 I think I was saying it to you, Seamus.
00:03:26.000 I think I said it on the members only, because I don't know if YouTube would allow us to say something like this, but like, all of these parents that are sterilizing their kids are just excising their genes from the gene pool.
00:03:34.000 So I have to wonder if, you know, these organizations, like, and I'm saying I have to wonder, Media Matters, I know you're watching.
00:03:40.000 I have to say it. 0.99
00:03:44.000 Are there people who are like, stupid people will remove themselves from the gene pool? 1.00
00:03:49.000 I mean, I'm not sure if that's it, as much as they just generally want to promote sexually depraved lifestyles. 1.00
00:03:54.000 No, that's too comic book one-dimensional.
00:03:56.000 I don't think it's comic book one-dimensional.
00:03:58.000 I think that these are people who consider themselves to be sexually liberated.
00:04:01.000 And so they say, oh, well, I am acting in favor of the movement of sexual liberation by taking the next step.
00:04:07.000 Yeah, by allowing people to sterilize themselves.
00:04:09.000 What's more interesting to me is that Margaret Sanger very clearly wanted to reduce the black population. 0.98
00:04:16.000 She founded an organization called Planned Parenthood, and to this day, they disproportionately target the black community for abortions and contraceptives. 0.98
00:04:23.000 When you say reduce the population, are you implying that she wanted to slow the growth of the population, or that she wanted to kill off a bunch of them? 0.97
00:04:32.000 Margaret Sanger said she wanted to weed the human garden.
00:04:35.000 So make of that what you will.
00:04:36.000 She also preceded the Nazis. 0.85
00:04:38.000 She gave them all their ideas.
00:04:40.000 She thought that only smart people should have babies. 1.00
00:04:44.000 Which, whatever, make of that what you will.
00:04:47.000 She thought that only the best and brightest among us should be able to reproduce, and she thought that having children was a burden on women. 1.00
00:04:55.000 So, make of all of that what you will.
00:04:57.000 And I genuinely think that she was truly racist. 0.99
00:04:59.000 And when you look at the fact that PolitiFact fact-checked the fucking fact that more black babies were aborted than born in New York City in 2015 and in 2018. 0.99
00:05:09.000 There was an article written about this in the Wall Street Journal. 0.98
00:05:13.000 By Jason, I forget what his name was, Jason Reilly.
00:05:16.000 The fact is that Planned Parenthood specifically targets low-income black women.
00:05:23.000 Look at this.
00:05:24.000 Hold on, I want to mention this.
00:05:26.000 Sanger's own words in an article titled, A Better Race Through Birth Control, within this article she wrote, Given birth control, the unfit will voluntarily eliminate their kind. 0.99
00:05:38.000 So this is why I bring this up because when I hear that Planned Parenthood without question gave you testosterone, I mean, that sounds like what they're doing.
00:05:48.000 They're trying to find people who are willing to sterilize themselves.
00:05:52.000 Yeah.
00:05:53.000 So instead of going, they used to do this thing back in the day with eugenics where they'd be like, we'll give you $500 to get your tubes tied. 0.62
00:05:59.000 Because if you didn't have the means to support yourself, you would take the money and then sterilize yourself or make it impossible for you to have kids.
00:06:08.000 That's what they wanted.
00:06:09.000 Now it seems like these people figured out an easier way.
00:06:12.000 Just trick people into doing it. 1.00
00:06:14.000 If they're stupid enough to do it, they'll do it. 1.00
00:06:16.000 I don't know. 1.00
00:06:17.000 I mean, so for example, the person at Planned Parenthood who gave you hormones, I don't think that they were necessarily thinking, I don't want this person to reproduce. 0.91
00:06:26.000 I think they were thinking, I am acting in favor, or I am, you know, acting in the interest of like sexually liberating this person.
00:06:32.000 And in a very twisted way, they saw themselves as someone who was advocating for you.
00:06:38.000 But it is true that the end result is that it could have rendered you infertile.
00:06:43.000 Yeah, it could have.
00:06:44.000 And I think, like, when I look back on it, I think they were definitely having, like, a savior complex about it.
00:06:49.000 Because I just remember, like, the tone of these women talking to me.
00:06:52.000 They're like, you know what?
00:06:53.000 We're gonna give you your testosterone without blood work. 1.00
00:06:57.000 And I was like, yay!
00:06:58.000 And they just like, you know, we had this like moment together and it was just like, they clearly were like feeling something.
00:07:04.000 Get that trigger, like blood thickening and like heart attacks and strokes.
00:07:08.000 Yes.
00:07:09.000 That's amazing.
00:07:10.000 Well, you know, I was told that Planned Parenthood makes women safer.
00:07:14.000 I was told that if we cut funding for Planned Parenthood, then women aren't going to be able to get medical treatment that they need.
00:07:20.000 I was told that they care oh so much about ensuring that women are cared for.
00:07:23.000 That's what I've always been told.
00:07:25.000 Yeah.
00:07:25.000 I think just like with slavery, the best slaver will have the slaves willingly become slaves and enjoy being slaves and do it of their own volition, that getting people to sterilize themselves, you want them to want to do it.
00:07:40.000 Otherwise, you become a villain.
00:07:41.000 I mean, look at Bill Gates when he's like, if we do enough good work, we can reduce the population growth by 15%.
00:07:50.000 He actually said that at a TED Talk.
00:07:53.000 And so people then accuse him of being a eugenicist or of wanting to kill people, and all the
00:07:57.000 fact-checkers are like, false!
00:07:59.000 He just wants there to be less people in 10 years.
00:08:03.000 Which means what?
00:08:04.000 Don't have babies. 0.99
00:08:05.000 How do you make it so people don't have babies? 1.00
00:08:07.000 Well, part of what's so horrific is that this kind of anti-human rhetoric is not only acceptable,
00:08:13.000 it's lauded.
00:08:15.000 I believe that a person who says something like, there should be fewer people, or we need to slow the growth of our population, or we need to reduce the population by 15%, should be treated just as bad, if not worse, than someone who makes that exact same statement, but targeting Not population, population growth.
00:08:30.000 Right.
00:08:30.000 I mean, isn't that what she... Bill Gates... No, he's not saying reduce the population.
00:08:33.000 on stage and they selected a specific minority group and they said if we
00:08:36.000 really work together we can prevent the growth of this minority group by 15% 1.00
00:08:39.000 right I mean isn't that what she said but what I'm saying is the fact is what
00:08:44.000 Bill Gates is saying is also horrific because that kind of genocidal rhetoric
00:08:48.000 does not become moral because you extend it to everybody no he's not saying
00:08:52.000 reduce the population he said reduce population growth by 15% no I know and I
00:08:58.000 would say that's I would still argue that's genocidal rhetoric
00:09:00.000 I think if you were to say that about a specific minority group, that you wanted to slow their population growth by 15%, it would be called genocidal rhetoric.
00:09:07.000 And I don't want to draw a distinction here and say, because you've applied that to everyone, it's now acceptable.
00:09:11.000 Yeah.
00:09:11.000 I don't understand what that means, to be honest.
00:09:13.000 I don't understand what that means, to be honest.
00:09:15.000 Yeah.
00:09:16.000 So Bill Gates.
00:09:17.000 So here we go.
00:09:18.000 PolitiFact says false.
00:09:19.000 Bill Gates talked about using vaccines to control population growth in an unedited 2010
00:09:24.000 TED talk.
00:09:25.000 I didn't hear him say that.
00:09:26.000 Bill Gates didn't say he wanted to use vaccines to reduce the population.
00:09:30.000 Bill Gates and Melinda Gates have repeatedly said that increased access to vaccines and
00:09:34.000 health care around the world would reduce child mortality and allow families to decide
00:09:38.000 to have fewer children.
00:09:39.000 That would slow the population growth rate. 0.98
00:09:41.000 That makes no fucking sense. 0.99
00:09:42.000 Oh, because their child is more likely to die? 0.99
00:09:45.000 The vaccines and making the child less likely to die means that they try to have less babies, because there's more of a success rate.
00:09:53.000 Well, also, I want to say this.
00:09:54.000 Look, if you went on record saying something like this, you just don't get to be the vaccine guy after that.
00:10:02.000 I'm sorry.
00:10:02.000 I'm sorry if you didn't mean it that way.
00:10:04.000 People are taking it out of context.
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00:11:17.000 You just don't get to be the vaccine guy after that.
00:11:26.000 And why would you scold people for not trusting somebody who was on record saying this?
00:11:31.000 And he actually said population.
00:11:32.000 He said, the world today is 6.8 billion people.
00:11:35.000 That's headed up to about 9 billion.
00:11:37.000 Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, healthcare, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15%.
00:11:45.000 He literally is saying that 9 billion number can be lowered by 10 or 15.
00:11:48.000 He didn't say You can you can give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's talking about growth or you can be like, you know He's just saying the population should be less I think he's talking about growth, for sure.
00:11:58.000 But he doesn't say growth.
00:11:59.000 He didn't give a time frame either, like 9 billion by when?
00:12:02.000 Tomorrow?
00:12:02.000 Or in 7 years?
00:12:03.000 Or in 80 years? 0.99
00:12:04.000 Like what the fuck is he talking about? 0.98
00:12:05.000 So that's an out of context statement. 1.00
00:12:07.000 I think they want to just kill and sterilize people.
00:12:10.000 Well, some people do, but it's so dangerous. 0.90
00:12:12.000 Why is Planned Parenthood giving testosterone and abortions?
00:12:16.000 I just think because they're a horrifically corrupt organization that doesn't care about the well-being of women. 0.98
00:12:21.000 They see women as something that they can exploit for profit. 1.00
00:12:24.000 You brought $200 in and they said, we're not even going to do your blood work.
00:12:27.000 We'll give you the drugs that you asked for.
00:12:28.000 Exactly.
00:12:29.000 I don't know if it's about eugenics or whatever, but I genuinely think that they just see women as this population that they psychologically own. 0.58
00:12:38.000 They've instilled a fear and a hatred of your own body in so many women. 1.00
00:12:44.000 It makes sense to me that they would just, you know, take advantage of another avenue where that's happening.
00:12:49.000 It seems like it's a self-correcting problem, though.
00:12:51.000 Even if it's just a wild theory that they're eugenicists, the end result will be parents of trans kids will excise their genetics from the gene pool and they will cease to exist. 0.74
00:13:01.000 But I can't accept that because someone like you, for example, were brainwashed in some sense.
00:13:09.000 You were encouraged to adopt this lifestyle choice which could have rendered you infertile.
00:13:13.000 I wouldn't see that as problem solved if she became infertile. 1.00
00:13:15.000 To them it would be.
00:13:16.000 Their argument is, again, assuming they're legitimately genocists, The people who are resilient to these brainwashing techniques are going to have kids.
00:13:25.000 You're not infertile.
00:13:26.000 So you resist it and you can have kids.
00:13:28.000 I also have a brother and he didn't do this, so... But it's all simple math.
00:13:33.000 If a population will have 100 babies over the span of 100 years, Bill Gates says he wants to reduce it by 15%, okay.
00:13:41.000 So a family with two kids, you only got to sterilize one of those kids and you've cut their population expansion in half.
00:13:46.000 So it still is a reduction in birth numbers.
00:13:49.000 I don't know if they need to go there.
00:13:50.000 Again, I still really maintain that this is just them continuing their pattern of exploiting women and seeing them as, you know, for-profit basically things, objects.
00:14:00.000 For sure.
00:14:02.000 But my point is, if Planned Parenthood was started by a eugenicist who wanted good breeding and was racist, why would that have changed?
00:14:02.000 Yeah.
00:14:11.000 No, I don't think it has.
00:14:12.000 Planned Parenthood- I mean, look, I mentioned this earlier. 0.74
00:14:14.000 They target the black community. 1.00
00:14:16.000 And they're the ones giving out these sterilizing drugs to young people. 0.90
00:14:20.000 I think the point is, regardless of- What's the through line?
00:14:22.000 What's the- No, I hear you.
00:14:24.000 I think my point is, regardless of what their stated intention is, regardless of what the intention of any specific person working at Planned Parenthood is, this is an organization which was founded for the purpose of eugenics, which is sterilizing people. 0.59
00:14:24.000 I hear you. 0.59
00:14:36.000 The problem is horizontal gene translation, which is different than vertical.
00:14:41.000 Vertical is from parent to offspring.
00:14:43.000 Horizontal is when your environment changes your genetics.
00:14:46.000 And so if someone comes in with a mind virus, like, hey everyone, hey 13-year-old, you're actually a boy when you're a girl.
00:14:52.000 Then that's gonna spread.
00:14:54.000 That's gonna change the genetics of our species, whether or not they have kids. 0.96
00:14:58.000 The ideas can fuck us up, too, and make us better.
00:15:01.000 Well, I also want to mention something else.
00:15:04.000 The left will constantly point to institutions that they argue had some origin in racist thought.
00:15:10.000 And even if the institution operates in a completely racially neutral way today, they will argue that said organization is in fact racist because its foundations were.
00:15:21.000 So, if Planned Parenthood was founded by a racist eugenicist who wanted to engage in ethnic hygiene and cleansing and have, you know, quote-unquote undesirable populations eliminate themselves, and to this day, one of the genetic groups she saw as inferior is being targeted by her organization for abortions and contraceptives, what are we led to conclude?
00:15:45.000 Is this what Planned Parenthood always did?
00:15:48.000 Did they always do abortions? 1.00
00:15:49.000 I don't think.
00:15:50.000 Well, they didn't do abortion prior to its legalization nationwide. 0.98
00:15:53.000 A number of places it didn't.
00:15:55.000 I believe it was contraceptives at first.
00:15:58.000 So an organization that was founded by a racist eugenicist to reduce certain populations and encourage only good breeding to this day is still carrying out the exact same work, but they've kind of removed the ideological component.
00:16:12.000 It's like if somebody starts a fire, And the fire is spreading, and then that person dies, and the fire is still there, and people are like, well, you know, the fire's always been doing its thing, and the fire's not bad.
00:16:22.000 It's like, that fire was started for these reasons, and it is burning through the very thing this person was trying to destroy.
00:16:28.000 Why would you now all of a sudden ignore what the purpose of the fire is?
00:16:31.000 You know what I mean?
00:16:32.000 If the purpose of Planned Parenthood is eugenics, it is still carrying out the exact same mission from when it was started, and they predominantly put these things in minority neighborhoods, why would you assume they're doing anything different than their stated mission? 0.55
00:16:45.000 I guess because Thomas Jefferson had slaves doesn't mean that everyone that comes after him and his government was a slaver.
00:16:52.000 No, no, no, no.
00:16:53.000 Hold on.
00:16:53.000 Hold on.
00:16:54.000 Thomas Jefferson helped set forth a nation that planted the seeds of liberty, which ended slavery.
00:16:59.000 Margaret Sanger created an organization that stopped people from having kids and was a racist eugenicist. 0.99
00:17:04.000 And the organization still stops people from having kids.
00:17:08.000 Yeah.
00:17:09.000 So a racist eugenicist says, I want this thing to stop, creates an organization, and to this day, they're still running that machine.
00:17:15.000 It would almost be like if to this day, we still had slavery.
00:17:18.000 We said, we're not doing it for racist reasons, though.
00:17:20.000 Like Planned Parenthood is still sterilizing minority communities, but they're going, we're just not doing it for racist reasons.
00:17:26.000 Oh, yeah, I guess.
00:17:26.000 Sterilize.
00:17:27.000 Well, they're doing everything they can to prevent them from procreating.
00:17:31.000 You see this viral video where a dad goes to a school, and he goes to the teacher, and it's an old black man, and he's like, which one do you put my grandson in a dress?
00:17:39.000 And the woman's like, you can't talk to me about this. 0.98
00:17:41.000 The guy's like, no, I'm talking to you right now.
00:17:43.000 He goes, take it up with them.
00:17:44.000 And he's like, no, I'm talking to you.
00:17:46.000 If you put my kid in a dress again, we're going to have problems.
00:17:50.000 And he's like, we're going to make you go viral.
00:17:52.000 And the video went viral.
00:17:54.000 Wait, they said that to him?
00:17:56.000 He said to the teacher, we're going to make you go viral. 0.96
00:17:58.000 Oh, okay.
00:17:59.000 I thought you were saying they were like threatening him with like, yes, let's show your best moment.
00:17:59.000 Good for him.
00:17:59.000 Good for him.
00:18:05.000 Let's show you standing up for a child against perverts.
00:18:08.000 I don't know if the left is going to win in the long run.
00:18:10.000 I think increasing the rate of population growth would also be considered eugenics. 0.86
00:18:17.000 It's just like toying with the population.
00:18:18.000 No, that makes no sense because... It's not always about reducing.
00:18:21.000 Eugenics is only having good people breed. 0.98
00:18:24.000 So if your argument is they take a bunch of ubermensch and have a hundred babies, it doesn't matter how many babies they're having.
00:18:30.000 They take the semen from one fit man... The issue is, Margaret Sanger is preventing certain babies from existing to prevent them from staying in the gene pool. 1.00
00:18:38.000 But they also do, like, a woman can go get sperm at a sperm bank. 1.00
00:18:43.000 Does Planned Parenthood do that stuff?
00:18:45.000 I don't know much about the company.
00:18:46.000 What else do they offer besides hormones for kids and abortions?
00:18:49.000 So they've consistently lied about providing mammograms.
00:18:53.000 This is actually interesting.
00:18:54.000 They literally don't provide mammograms.
00:18:55.000 They don't have a single mammogram machine at any of their clinics.
00:18:57.000 For years, they said that they did.
00:18:59.000 Other PR people said that they did.
00:19:01.000 It's literally not true.
00:19:04.000 They provide... They provide the COVID-19 vaccine.
00:19:08.000 Oh, really?
00:19:09.000 Abortion referrals, abortion, birth control, HIV, men's health, mental health, morning after pills, pregnancy tests, primary care.
00:19:18.000 Yeah, there's no mammograms here.
00:19:20.000 Transgender hormone therapy, look at that. 0.99
00:19:21.000 They justified it because what they would do is like, I think they would tell women about other facilities that they could potentially go to to get mammograms, but that's like saying that the Yellow Pages provides pizza.
00:19:31.000 I'm not going to take credit for that analogy, but it's the same thing.
00:19:33.000 Telling someone where they can go get something is not the same as providing it.
00:19:37.000 What's IUI?
00:19:38.000 Intrauterine insemination. 0.62
00:19:40.000 That looks like a Planned Parenthood thing.
00:19:42.000 Is it?
00:19:43.000 That's when I looked it up.
00:19:44.000 That's from their website.
00:19:45.000 That's like artificial insemination.
00:19:46.000 That I didn't know.
00:19:47.000 So that's another type of eugenics where you take the fittest dude's sperm and impregnate a bunch of women with it. 1.00
00:19:52.000 I looked up places where you can get transgender hormone therapy over the phone. 0.99
00:19:55.000 Yeah, yeah, they do that.
00:19:56.000 They do that.
00:19:57.000 Over the phone.
00:19:58.000 Oh, like you just have a conversation?
00:19:59.000 You call them up and say, I want the drugs, and they'll be like, you got it.
00:20:02.000 Yep, that's it.
00:20:03.000 And so we did a video about this a while ago for Freedom Tunes.
00:20:06.000 It was actually one of my first videos that really gained traction, but basically Planned Parenthood claims that abortion is only 3% of its services, but it's totally nonsensical.
00:20:16.000 It's a dishonest way of looking at it.
00:20:18.000 They make you wear masks!
00:20:19.000 You still gotta wear a mask if you wanna go in and get your hormones. 0.60
00:20:23.000 So it's something like it would be a larger percent of their services if they weighted
00:20:29.000 equally.
00:20:30.000 So if it's something so for example, it's like 12% of women who are there are there 0.75
00:20:33.000 for an abortion or consulting for an abortion.
00:20:34.000 But what happens is they give her a pregnancy test and now they didn't just give her an 0.98
00:20:39.000 abortion as a service.
00:20:40.000 They also gave her a pregnancy test.
00:20:42.000 So now abortion goes from 12% of what they provide to 6% of what they provide.
00:20:46.000 And then if they give her a condom, now the abortion is only a third of what she was there for. 1.00
00:20:51.000 And if they give you a lollipop on your way out.
00:20:54.000 That's also a service.
00:20:55.000 They count every single individual thing as a service in that way to obfuscate the fact that they make a lot of money off of abortion.
00:21:02.000 Hold on, let me ask you, like, you were 18 when you got hormones.
00:21:05.000 So I do think there's an issue if they're just willy-nilly giving them out, but what about the libertarian argument?
00:21:11.000 I mean, adults can do what they want to do.
00:21:13.000 I agree with that to an extent, but I also think that there's a responsibility on the part of medical providers where it's like, you know, if you're a surgeon, what is your responsibility to your patient?
00:21:25.000 Like if someone comes in, they're clearly mentally ill.
00:21:28.000 They're clearly, you know, have a lot of issues. 1.00
00:21:30.000 Is it ethical for that surgeon to just cut their balls off? 1.00
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00:22:06.000 Yeah, does the government have some kind of responsibility to intervene in that like we
00:22:11.000 do with other, you know, consumer protection?
00:22:14.000 That's what we were talking about last night.
00:22:15.000 Suicide.
00:22:17.000 Suicide's illegal.
00:22:18.000 I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing.
00:22:20.000 I mean, do you think people... I think... Well, I mean, I don't know about illegal, because it's like, well, I mean, if you're already... What are they going to do?
00:22:27.000 But I don't think we should support suicide just because someone wants to do it, you know?
00:22:31.000 I think that's really, really wrong.
00:22:33.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously, so we sort of talked about this.
00:22:35.000 I do believe it should be illegal.
00:22:36.000 I think civil authorities have a reason to step in.
00:22:38.000 And I also agree with you completely when you're saying that civil authorities have some interest and responsibility in ensuring that unnecessary medical procedures that could potentially destroy people's lives aren't performed on them.
00:22:49.000 Especially when it's like, there's no evidence that this helps people.
00:22:53.000 Like there's this, there's this, oops, sorry.
00:22:57.000 There's this narrative that it's like, oh, there's detransitioners.
00:23:00.000 It didn't work for them, but for real trans people it works. 0.81
00:23:03.000 There's just no evidence of that.
00:23:05.000 The only long-term evidence that we have into this is it followed adult transsexuals for 30 years, and it's still found that after all the surgeries were complete, they still had 20 times the suicide rate, completed suicide rate, of the general population. 0.97
00:23:21.000 What about any other body dysmorphia?
00:23:23.000 So I made this point to Jack Dorsey.
00:23:26.000 There are people who want to cut their limbs off. 0.99
00:23:29.000 Trans ableists. 0.99
00:23:30.000 Or anorexia.
00:23:31.000 No, it's what is it called?
00:23:34.000 A general body dysmorphic disorder or something like that.
00:23:37.000 And there are people who are like, I need my fingers off!
00:23:39.000 It's not part of my body!
00:23:40.000 And they'll find ways to get amputated. 0.96
00:23:43.000 So they'll crush their hand on purpose and then try and get it amputated.
00:23:46.000 Should a doctor, if someone walks into Planned Parenthood and says, I need my hand removed, should they go, no.
00:23:52.000 Exactly.
00:23:53.000 And I mean, an even more, I think, realistic example is anorexia.
00:23:58.000 I mean, women with anorexia, like they genuinely feel like they really need to lose weight. 0.95
00:24:04.000 Like they feel like their life will be worthless if they don't lose weight.
00:24:07.000 Does that mean that their doctors help them do that?
00:24:10.000 Yeah, well, and I'll go further.
00:24:10.000 No.
00:24:12.000 For anyone who argues that Tim's point about someone cutting their arm off as hyperbolic, or their hand off as hyperbolic, or an unfair comparison, just ask yourself this question.
00:24:20.000 As an adult right now, if you had to have one unfortunate incident happen in your past as a child, and you're a man, would you rather a doctor had cut one of your hands off because you said you didn't want that hand, or would you rather they put you on hormones that prevented you from developing sexually?
00:24:35.000 And so you never, you literally never ended up developing normal, healthy adult genitalia.
00:24:41.000 Look at this.
00:24:43.000 Understanding the rare condition that makes people want to amputate their own limbs. 1.00
00:24:47.000 What's the difference between cutting your leg off and cutting your balls off? 0.99
00:24:50.000 I mean someone without a leg. 1.00
00:24:51.000 Yes, someone without a leg.
00:24:54.000 Someone who cut their leg off can still reproduce and have children.
00:24:57.000 My body, my choice right here.
00:24:59.000 Look at this.
00:24:59.000 What is it?
00:25:00.000 CNN.
00:25:00.000 Like in the article, that's what they promote.
00:25:03.000 There's body dysmorphic disorder, which is where they feel like a part of their body is severely flawed, wants it hidden or fixed.
00:25:11.000 And then there's also trans ableism, which is the desire to acquire a disability through choice rather than happenstance.
00:25:17.000 There's a website for body integrity dysphoria where people can go and get support to have their legs and limbs removed and it encourages them and... Something's going on with humanity. 0.66
00:25:27.000 How can you call that body integrity?
00:25:29.000 It's... What are they saying?
00:25:30.000 Look at this!
00:25:30.000 No, no, no!
00:25:31.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on!
00:25:32.000 Stop, stop, stop!
00:25:33.000 CNN is justifying this.
00:25:35.000 May 7th, 2020, they say, those with BID have less brain connectivity in specific areas.
00:25:40.000 We show clear association between mental state and changes in brain structure and functionality.
00:25:45.000 They are setting up the stage for people to cut their limbs off.
00:25:48.000 Well, I want to know why.
00:25:49.000 What's going on with the brain?
00:25:50.000 How deep do they go? 1.00
00:25:51.000 It's bullshit! 1.00
00:25:53.000 Like, I'm serious. 1.00
00:25:54.000 If you ask most men, would you rather lose your shin or your foot and have that cut off? 1.00
00:25:59.000 Or would you rather have your genitals cut off? 1.00
00:26:01.000 Most guys would probably go with a phone. 1.00
00:26:02.000 Guys, it's not even a question.
00:26:03.000 Yes.
00:26:04.000 Cut my phone off.
00:26:05.000 I would like to be able to... No, I'm serious.
00:26:06.000 I'd like to be able to have a family.
00:26:07.000 I would like to be able to get married and have a wife someday and have children.
00:26:11.000 But a lot of people want to run for a living.
00:26:13.000 You know, they want to be runners and walkers, so they might cut their nuts off. 0.99
00:26:16.000 I don't know.
00:26:16.000 How are you going to be a runner if you don't have any hormones, like, coursing through your body that are building your muscles and your bones and everything?
00:26:23.000 And the artificial hormones are not the same.
00:26:24.000 Good point.
00:26:25.000 Not the same.
00:26:26.000 Everyone has to make that decision on their own. 0.99
00:26:29.000 Need your balls. 0.99
00:26:30.000 I think something's changing people, man. 1.00
00:26:32.000 Whether it's Wi-Fi or fucking phthalates in the water supply. 0.99
00:26:36.000 All of the above. 1.00
00:26:38.000 High fructose corn syrup and aspartame.
00:26:41.000 So their brains are getting warped and then they want to like remove a piece of them because they hurt.
00:26:45.000 But some people aren't.
00:26:47.000 And so the end result of this is a eugenicist's wet dream.
00:26:51.000 Some people are susceptible to the things that sterilize them or destroy their bodies and some people aren't and the end result is a stronger population.
00:26:57.000 Well, Ian, you made a really good point earlier about the fact that there are a lot of young people who are confused because of how confusing the world is today.
00:27:05.000 And so they become very depressed.
00:27:06.000 They feel that something's missing.
00:27:08.000 And then these people basically step in and say, oh, what's missing is you're actually in the wrong body and you're dysphoric.
00:27:14.000 I would've been totally susceptible to that at the age of 12.
00:27:16.000 When I was crying in my bed and my mom's like, what's wrong?
00:27:18.000 And I'm like, I don't know.
00:27:20.000 I'm just crying.
00:27:21.000 People were like, it's because you were girl.
00:27:23.000 I was an actor.
00:27:24.000 I was a creator.
00:27:25.000 I'll play a girl on stage.
00:27:27.000 And that's the thing with these kids.
00:27:27.000 It's fun.
00:27:29.000 There's a common personality type of these kids who get involved in this, and it's the creative types.
00:27:35.000 It's the sensitive people, which is really unfortunate to me because I think those people have a lot to offer the world.
00:27:42.000 Yeah, like great acting.
00:27:44.000 Good actors, man.
00:27:46.000 Or art, or music, or writing, whatever. 0.99
00:27:49.000 But instead, they're coping with the fact that somebody cut their balls off at 18. 1.00
00:27:55.000 God damn it. 0.99
00:27:56.000 So I just got a notification and the Mises Caucus guys posted a meme of me. 0.99
00:28:00.000 Hell yes.
00:28:01.000 And it says, quote, I remember the Ron Paul era and I didn't agree with a lot of his moral positions, but I did agree with him saying he wants to leave me alone.
00:28:09.000 I'll take the guy who's going to leave me alone because we can disagree on everything, but then he agrees to leave me alone.
00:28:14.000 I think that's great.
00:28:15.000 I do think that's great.
00:28:16.000 And I think it's relevant to a lot of what we're talking about, you know.
00:28:19.000 To some extent, though, I mean, as you and I agree, there is some role for the state to step in.
00:28:24.000 I would absolutely make it illegal for doctors to remove people's genitals just as it's illegal for them to remove someone's arm or leg if they feel that that shouldn't be attached to their body.
00:28:32.000 Yep.
00:28:33.000 It's tough, though, because what if someone—testicular cancer, right? 1.00
00:28:39.000 Gotta cut your balls off. 0.99
00:28:40.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a very different scenario. 1.00
00:28:41.000 We're talking about healthy organs.
00:28:43.000 No, no, I understand, but does that mean the doctor has to provide documentation to the state to verify the cancer?
00:28:48.000 No, but in the same way that it would be illegal for a doctor to just cut a healthy person's arm off just because they said they wanted to.
00:28:55.000 A doctor can still remove a tumor from somebody's arm.
00:28:58.000 Yeah, it's really weird legal questions.
00:29:02.000 Like, what if you go to the doctor and the doctor's like, you have prostate cancer so I'm going to remove your prostate and you'll be impotent for the rest of your life.
00:29:09.000 and then you do it and then the doctor was right but then you say you know what i'm suing you
00:29:14.000 anyway and i'm gonna file charges saying you cut you you suffered my prostate like is the state 0.85
00:29:19.000 gonna have to investigate whether it was a legitimate procedure and how do you prove it
00:29:22.000 was legitimate unless they like give them the prostate do things like that happen i'm just
00:29:27.000 saying like let's say someone goes to the hospital the doctor's like you have skin cancer we got to
00:29:27.000 I'm just saying like let's say someone goes to the hospital the doctor is like you have skin cancer
00:29:30.000 We got to cut off the skin in your hand then they do and then you're like, oh, I didn't have skin cancer
00:29:31.000 cut off the skin in your hand then they do and then you're like oh i didn't have skin cancer
00:29:34.000 he lied and cut my skin off he attacked me like what happens i mean i think if it were the case
00:29:34.000 He lied and cut my skin off. He attacked me like what happens
00:29:38.000 I mean, I think if it were the case that you could prove that a doctor was malicious and lied about you having some
00:29:39.000 that you could prove that a doctor was malicious and lied about you having some disease to operate
00:29:43.000 disease To operate on you. You would have a lawsuit there. I don't 0.96
00:29:46.000 know how many medical medical malpractice suits happen over all sorts of stuff all the time
00:29:49.000 Yeah, yeah, whether there are cases of a doctor go like deciding they want to remove some part because they're a 0.65
00:29:55.000 sick person I haven't heard of anything like Janice, but you know 1.00
00:29:57.000 Yeah, the transgender think exactly the only thing that matters. None of the laws matter. The only thing that 1.00
00:30:03.000 matters is our culture is sick That's it. Yeah 0.98
00:30:06.000 This osteopathic medicine, this is kind of invented like a hundred years ago.
00:30:10.000 And it's the idea that if you have a sick organ, you cut it out, get rid of it, as opposed to figure out why it's not working right and try and treat the underlying cause.
00:30:18.000 It's usually diet.
00:30:19.000 A lot of times it's diet.
00:30:20.000 Pharmaceutical companies make so much money off of pumping people with medicine and surgeries.
00:30:25.000 And keeping people sick.
00:30:26.000 Like they're all collaborated with the food industry and everything.
00:30:29.000 Yeah.
00:30:30.000 They can't make money if people aren't sick.
00:30:31.000 That's insane.
00:30:32.000 It's an incentive to make people sick.
00:30:34.000 Yep.
00:30:35.000 Cultural enforcement.
00:30:36.000 These things weren't issues because our culture said some things were wrong.
00:30:40.000 Like, why don't we have corruption?
00:30:42.000 In Russia, you're speeding.
00:30:43.000 You get pulled over, you throw some money at the cop, he leaves you alone.
00:30:46.000 You do that in the US, you're getting arrested.
00:30:48.000 Why is it that cops in the US will arrest you if you try to bribe them, but not in Russia?
00:30:52.000 Culture. 1.00
00:30:53.000 In our culture, people are like, nah, fuck that. 1.00
00:30:55.000 I'm not. 1.00
00:30:56.000 I don't want to do that.
00:30:57.000 That's wrong.
00:30:57.000 We can't do that.
00:30:59.000 South America ain't nothing but bribery.
00:31:01.000 Because their culture tolerates it.
00:31:03.000 It's acceptable to them.
00:31:05.000 Do you think that, uh, do you think some of that is cracked on though?
00:31:07.000 Because I have heard stories from people who have said that like on the South side, back in the seventies and eighties, people did bribe cops pretty often.
00:31:14.000 Yeah, but it's not really that, uh, bro.
00:31:16.000 Not, you know, I hear what you're saying on the level of these other countries, but no, but I'm saying like nowadays, I agree with you that nowadays, like people don't think unless they're at an insanely high level to go like, I'm going to slip this cop a, you know, a 20 and he won't give me a parking ticket or something.
00:31:30.000 Whereas I think back in the seventies, that might be more of a common thing.
00:31:32.000 Like if you're a rich guy, you don't say to a cop, let me slip you a hundred dollar bill.
00:31:35.000 You say, how would you like a job working in the private sector?
00:31:37.000 Unrelated to whatever is going on.
00:31:41.000 And then all of a sudden you're going to get a guy at 50 bucks an hour is going to be like,
00:31:43.000 I'll take it.
00:31:44.000 But regardless, my point is, it doesn't matter what the law says.
00:31:50.000 So I'm looking at all these precedents on, like... The Civil Rights Act is really fascinating because it does ban the men's room and the women's room outright. 0.98
00:32:00.000 You cannot discriminate on the basis of sex.
00:32:03.000 So how can you maintain a gender-segregated bathroom facility? 0.98
00:32:09.000 Anybody should be allowed to use them.
00:32:10.000 You can't tell them no.
00:32:11.000 Well, culturally, we are like, oh, but we don't mean that!
00:32:16.000 So when they were like, hey, you can't have a white and black bathroom, everyone like, oh, okay, yeah, you should be able to discriminate on the basis of race with bathrooms and national origin and sex and all that stuff.
00:32:26.000 And they went, got it.
00:32:27.000 And they got rid of the race bathrooms and kept the sex bathrooms. 1.00
00:32:31.000 So if you went into a woman's bathroom and you're like, my civil rights, and they're like, get the fuck out of there, and you're like, civil rights, they'd be like, okay, we're arresting you for disgruntled behaving in the public or something, but not for... You'd lose. 0.83
00:32:42.000 So go back in time to when they passed the Civil Rights Act so you can't discriminate. 0.99
00:32:45.000 As a man walking to a woman's bathroom, you get your ass beat, and then the cops laugh at you, and the judge says, get the fuck out of my courtroom. 0.99
00:32:51.000 Do it today, and you will win $250,000. 1.00
00:32:53.000 Yes.
00:32:56.000 Cultural enforcement.
00:32:57.000 The law didn't change, the culture and what it tolerates changed. 0.97
00:33:01.000 So the law can say whatever the fuck it wants. 0.98
00:33:04.000 That's my concern about the whole abortion thing. 0.98
00:33:06.000 Well, I mean, of course it's going to be a big deal, but I don't think it's as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. 0.99
00:33:11.000 But I do feel like the, you know, truth faction, the freedom faction, I don't know what the fuck you call it. 0.93
00:33:18.000 What do they do? 0.85
00:33:20.000 Well, like the faction of people who believe in facts and believe in liberty and logic.
00:33:27.000 The logic stuff.
00:33:28.000 The logic and emotion.
00:33:29.000 Even though we don't all agree on quite a lot, when we talk about these cases, I can't think of an instance where there have been like a few here and there, but for the most part, we generally agree on the facts of what happened.
00:33:42.000 My thing with you, I like you.
00:33:44.000 I trust you. 1.00
00:33:45.000 I don't agree with you about shit. 1.00
00:33:47.000 No one's ever going to be like, yes, we are synonymous, we are bored. 1.00
00:33:51.000 That doesn't matter.
00:33:52.000 But I also feel like with you and I, if I tell you a fact or you tell me a fact, even if I don't agree with your view on it, I'll be like, yeah, that's true.
00:34:01.000 Whereas I think you make a good point about how on the other side of the aisle there are people that will literally just be like, No, no, actually, um, the, uh, Michael Brown cases, you know, it was a travesty and he did have his hands up and then he said, don't shoot.
00:34:13.000 And the cop shot him for no reason.
00:34:15.000 We had Hunter Avalon on the show and he's, and I said, look, Joe Biden said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the billion dollars.
00:34:21.000 And he went, that never happened, dude.
00:34:23.000 And I was like, yeah, it did.
00:34:25.000 And he's like, no, it didn't.
00:34:25.000 I'm like, all right, bro, here we go.
00:34:27.000 And I pulled up the videos and he watched them.
00:34:28.000 He was like, oh, I find finding out a fact that you didn't know that what is a very valuable opportunity.
00:34:35.000 And it's the basis of the scientific method.
00:34:37.000 Constantly trying to disprove your own... The emotion people don't follow logic.
00:34:41.000 So that's why when I'm like, would you like to come on the show? 1.00
00:34:44.000 They go, Haha, fuck you, you fucking loser! 1.00
00:34:47.000 You're so dumb! 1.00
00:34:48.000 And I'm like, okay, I guess. 1.00
00:34:50.000 And we're all shocked by it, like, why won't they come on the show and debate?
00:34:53.000 It's because they don't have anything to debate!
00:34:55.000 It's fire.
00:34:56.000 That's what it is.
00:34:57.000 Fire doesn't debate water. 0.99
00:34:58.000 It just burns shit down. 0.96
00:35:00.000 Like, the fire avoids going into the water. 0.99
00:35:03.000 It's the wind.
00:35:04.000 That's how fire and water find a common ground.
00:35:07.000 It's the wind.
00:35:07.000 the moisture in the air pushing the the waves of flame. I think ultimately whatever we are,
00:35:14.000 we are winning. And that is, look, my attitude on trans stuff for the most part,
00:35:18.000 I don't have a strong position on SRS, like bottom surgery and top surgery, like surgery stuff.
00:35:25.000 I think adults can lead the lives they want to live, so like Blaire White, more power to Blaire. 1.00
00:35:32.000 She wants to be trans, take hormones and stuff. 1.00
00:35:34.000 I'm not going to get involved in that, but I think the issue is when they go after kids.
00:35:38.000 Yeah.
00:35:39.000 I think that becomes more of an issue, but my question is, so would you be okay with someone amputating their arm or leg because they felt that they shouldn't have it?
00:35:47.000 That's a tough question, man.
00:35:48.000 That's similar to the suicide question.
00:35:50.000 Ah, suicide, it is, right.
00:35:52.000 But the issue is the gradient, because suicide for me is an absolute no.
00:35:56.000 Like if someone's suicidal, we help them not be suicidal. 0.99
00:35:59.000 If somebody wants to pierce their tongue, oh, I don't give a shit. 1.00
00:36:04.000 Somebody wants to fork their tongue, I also don't give a shit. 1.00
00:36:07.000 You ever see tongue forking? 0.99
00:36:08.000 Yeah.
00:36:09.000 They split down the middle and you can actually move it around, it's crazy.
00:36:12.000 And if somebody wants to do, there's varying degrees of body modification we accept and don't care about.
00:36:19.000 But then amputation is where we're like, whoa, and I've gone too far.
00:36:22.000 But yeah, it's like people can live their lives as long as they're hurting other people.
00:36:27.000 I'm kind of okay with it when they're going.
00:36:29.000 So if someone goes to a child that's grooming them, they're hurting other people.
00:36:33.000 You know, if a person wants to dye their skin green or whatever, I'm like... And if someone cuts off their arms and then they make a YouTube video and they're like, I cut off my arms.
00:36:43.000 I feel I'm good.
00:36:44.000 And they have a thousand subscribers that are like 14 year olds.
00:36:47.000 They're basically teaching 14 year olds to cut off their arms.
00:36:50.000 And especially if what YouTube does is they come in and say anyone who says they regret losing their arms has their channel banned and will delete their videos and don't promote that message. 0.98
00:36:57.000 Don't even say arms, say balls! 0.95
00:36:59.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
00:37:00.000 Literally videos of people like, I cut my balls off and I'm happy and the people who are like, I cut my balls off and are sad get banned. 0.89
00:37:04.000 Yeah, it's, you know, you raise a point about body modification and I believe it's on a spectrum here, right? 0.97
00:37:10.000 So...
00:37:11.000 I don't think it's good for a person to split their tongue, but that is not going to place you at the same level of culpability for participating in that as like cutting off someone's arm or cutting off someone's genitals. 0.96
00:37:21.000 It's soft, man.
00:37:22.000 Removing something is different than modifying it.
00:37:24.000 If you modify it, it's still there.
00:37:26.000 So let's get that straight.
00:37:29.000 Well.
00:37:30.000 Yeah.
00:37:30.000 No, I mean, I just, I believe that even if someone wants you to destroy them or part of them, you still can't do it.
00:37:38.000 Yeah, is it the right thing to do?
00:37:41.000 People can do all sorts of stuff, but it's like, is it right, though?
00:37:44.000 And then the question is, at what point can there be legal consequences under the current paradigm?
00:37:51.000 Obviously, that's something which we unfortunately allow, but I wonder if it could be the case that years from now people will say, look, I had a mental illness.
00:37:58.000 And you performed a surgery on me that I only said I wanted because I was sick and you were the doctor.
00:38:04.000 It was your responsibility to help me and instead you sliced my genitalia up into being completely unable to ever function again.
00:38:11.000 Have you considered suing Planned Parenthood? 0.80
00:38:13.000 Yeah, I have.
00:38:14.000 I have considered it.
00:38:15.000 Oh, what's going on?
00:38:16.000 Are you going to do it?
00:38:17.000 I wouldn't dissuade you.
00:38:19.000 Yeah, it's just difficult.
00:38:21.000 I mean, they have you sign a liability thing that says, like, if I ever regret this, it's not planned.
00:38:27.000 But did you tell them that you were depressed?
00:38:30.000 Yeah.
00:38:31.000 So depression is a state of mind where you can't legally enter into contracts.
00:38:37.000 Interesting.
00:38:37.000 Also, didn't you say they failed to do your blood work?
00:38:40.000 Are they not legally required?
00:38:41.000 Yeah, they did.
00:38:43.000 I mean, yeah, I've been talking to a lawyer, but it's, yeah, it's... I don't have any... I'm saying that I don't have any, like, concrete plans.
00:38:49.000 Yeah, maybe we shouldn't talk too much about it.
00:38:51.000 Yeah, I hear you.
00:38:52.000 So, if you're declared mentally incompetent, contracts are void.
00:38:56.000 I wonder if depression could qualify, but I wonder if you could make it voidable.
00:39:04.000 It has long been established that a contract is voidable by a person who, due to mental illness or defect, lacked the capacity to contract at the time of entering into the agreement.
00:39:11.000 I'd argue that you were severely depressed, and that they exploited you to take money from you and give you a treatment without proper medical care, and the liability waiver is void because Yeah.
00:39:22.000 I told them I was suicidal.
00:39:23.000 It says it right in my medical records.
00:39:24.000 It's actually sad when you go back and read it.
00:39:25.000 anyway. I told them I was suicidal. Oh that right there. So suicidal I think is
00:39:31.000 clearly nullifies contracts. It says it right in my medical records. It's actually
00:39:36.000 sad when you go back and read it. It's like he says that he's suicidal but that
00:39:40.000 will change after he takes testosterone. I think you should sue. 0.99
00:39:44.000 If that company gets sued once, it's gonna get sued into oblivion.
00:39:47.000 Yeah.
00:39:48.000 I'll say this, if you announced you were suing, you'd have ten billion dollars behind you.
00:39:54.000 Like, every right-wing group would be like, blank check, here you go.
00:39:57.000 End of Planned Parenthood, yeah.
00:39:59.000 Well, it wouldn't, I mean, right, it's political, so they'd want to do everything, for a lot of people it would be like, this is a vector to dealing with abortion.
00:40:07.000 Yeah.
00:40:08.000 I think what ultimately might end up happening is you just end up with $10 million cash from
00:40:12.000 Planned Parenthood who settles with you, you know what I mean?
00:40:14.000 You'd have to like reject a settlement and take it to the Supreme Court to get them to
00:40:18.000 end transgender hormone therapies.
00:40:20.000 I mean yeah, you really could do a lot of good.
00:40:24.000 I have been talking to someone.
00:40:26.000 Oh, no, no, no.
00:40:26.000 Good for you.
00:40:27.000 Good for you.
00:40:27.000 I think that's great.
00:40:28.000 Yeah.
00:40:28.000 Cool.
00:40:28.000 All right.
00:40:29.000 Yeah.
00:40:30.000 Awesome.
00:40:30.000 Helena, thanks for coming.
00:40:31.000 It's been a blast.
00:40:31.000 Thank you for having me.
00:40:32.000 Yeah, seriously.
00:40:33.000 This was great.
00:40:34.000 Thank you.
00:40:34.000 Yeah.
00:40:35.000 And everybody, as members, thank you for making all of this possible.
00:40:38.000 Look forward to some fun, exciting stuff.
00:40:40.000 We might have an announcement coming up at the end of this week.
00:40:43.000 I've been waiting.
00:40:43.000 We always have to delay these things, but some cool stuff's happening soon.