Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Ben Shapiro And The Daily Wire TAKES OVER TIMCAST w-Jason Whitlock & Colin Wright

00:00:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we are here in Nashville, Tennessee.

00:00:16.000 We are at the Daily Wire's headquarters, and we got a special show tonight.

00:00:22.000 There's a lot to talk about.

00:00:23.000 Of course, D.C.

00:00:24.000 is experiencing busloads of illegal immigrants being sent by the governor of Texas.

00:00:28.000 We've got some interesting conversations around these schools, and the education issue once again has become something, well, it's persistent in the news.

00:00:38.000 And we're gonna talk about that.

00:00:39.000 We've got a couple really great guests.

00:00:42.000 In about 15 minutes, The Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Clavin, Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh, Jeremy Boring, I hope I named everybody, are going to be taking over our feed, actually taking over, and Tim Cassiro will flip into The Daily Wire.

00:00:58.000 And I'm gonna run out of the trailer in tornado weather, no joke, and try and make it into their studio, and we're all gonna hang out and have a conversation.

00:01:06.000 That'll last for just about 15 minutes.

00:01:08.000 Then we're gonna come back and hang out with our awesome guests and keep our show going, so... I saw those people chatting saying there's no way Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire crew are taking over.

00:01:17.000 Yes, they literally are.

00:01:18.000 They've got special camera rigs set up to just take over.

00:01:22.000 It's gonna be a blast.

00:01:23.000 I hope it works.

00:01:23.000 Oh yeah.

00:01:25.000 But it's been really fun hanging out with the guys here in Nashville.

00:01:28.000 The crew, they're awesome.

00:01:29.000 I just got to play some video games with them and absolutely destroyed the entire crew of The Daily Wire because they don't know how to play video games.

00:01:35.000 So let's just get to it.

00:01:37.000 Joining us today, we got a couple of really awesome guests.

00:01:39.000 We got Jason Whitlock.

00:01:41.000 From the Blaze TV, Fearless with Jason Whitlock.

00:01:45.000 Good to be back.

00:01:46.000 It's probably been a year.

00:01:47.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:01:49.000 I was on the show.

00:01:49.000 You know, I'm still fat, but a little less so.

00:01:55.000 Although no one said anything.

00:01:56.000 I was hoping Tim or Lydia or somebody would say.

00:01:59.000 Hey, man, I think you lost 10 pounds.

00:02:00.000 Well, I was thinking it.

00:02:01.000 I still want to be rude, you know.

00:02:04.000 I lost some weight, too.

00:02:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:06.000 You did?

00:02:07.000 I can see that.

00:02:08.000 I cut out the sugars in, like, around October, November.

00:02:12.000 It's worked out pretty well.

00:02:13.000 You're still wearing the hat, though, so that kind of threw me off.

00:02:16.000 I couldn't see the weight loss.

00:02:16.000 Good.

00:02:18.000 It's the constant, yeah.

00:02:19.000 We got Colin Wright.

00:02:20.000 I'm an evolutionary biologist.

00:02:22.000 I run the website Reality's Last Stand.

00:02:24.000 I talk a lot about sex and gender, debunking a lot of the pseudoscience about biological sex and the notion that it's a social construct or a spectrum.

00:02:33.000 It's good to be here.

00:02:34.000 Thanks for coming.

00:02:34.000 Thank you.

00:02:35.000 What's up, everybody?

00:02:35.000 And we got Ian!

00:02:36.000 I was actually sitting in the Daily Wire production headquarters eyeballing the way they run, and man, that is a cool operation.

00:02:41.000 Great group of people in there, and they are a well-oiled machine.

00:02:43.000 Isn't it so different from us?

00:02:45.000 Yeah.

00:02:46.000 We've got, like, duct tape and beanies, and they've got this massive production rig that's, like, 50 people running around.

00:02:52.000 I'm like, I don't know what any of these people do.

00:02:54.000 Truly epic.

00:02:54.000 Like, Lydia presses buttons.

00:02:56.000 That's right.

00:02:58.000 I'm here in the corner pushing buttons.

00:02:59.000 This time I got Ian's camera right, which has been a struggle for me.

00:03:02.000 You guys may have noticed.

00:03:03.000 I've tried.

00:03:04.000 I don't know what I have against Ian's camera, but it's not because I hate Ian.

00:03:07.000 I'm just struggling over here in the corner.

00:03:08.000 I think I like this RV better than going to your compound.

00:03:08.000 Can I say this?

00:03:10.000 Can I say this? I think I like this RV better than going to your compound.

00:03:15.000 Oh yeah?

00:03:15.000 Which I had trouble finding.

00:03:18.000 And I remember, I think I had to order McDonald's because you guys fed me Hot Pockets.

00:03:21.000 Who gave you Hot Pockets? 0.98

00:03:23.000 I don't know.

00:03:24.000 What?

00:03:24.000 I don't remember.

00:03:25.000 Whatever.

00:03:26.000 I refuse.

00:03:26.000 I reject these allegations.

00:03:27.000 It's very homey in here.

00:03:28.000 We'll have to do better.

00:03:29.000 I know.

00:03:30.000 I do love it.

00:03:30.000 You know, the idea is maybe once a month, bring the trailer out to a different location.

00:03:35.000 And we're actually, we want to do Friday night live events.

00:03:37.000 So we would do IRL at a venue on stage.

00:03:42.000 That'd be awesome.

00:03:42.000 the people to get to that point who can come out on a Wednesday set the whole

00:03:46.000 thing up early on the Friday and then we would do the show in the trailer but on

00:03:49.000 Friday night sell tickets people can come out hang out in the audience and

00:03:52.000 actually watch the show I think that'd be really cool be awesome all right well

00:03:56.000 let's let's try and squeeze in some talk before the daily wire ends up taking

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00:04:27.000 This is why.

00:04:28.000 If you're into it, if you like talk about celebrities, movies, video games, gossip, and all that stuff, we can't just complain about cultural changes.

00:04:35.000 We can't just complain about political issues.

00:04:37.000 Politics is downstream from culture.

00:04:39.000 We have to engage in these cultural issues, if we care about it, and we have to make culture.

00:04:45.000 So not only are we working on shows like Tales from the Inverted World, which is a seasonal mystery paranormal investigative podcast, we're also engaging with talking about celebrities and movies and games too.

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00:05:02.000 And you'll know that when we talk about what's going on with the latest movie or Disney, it's going to be coming from a place of our values, personal responsibility, liberty, etc.

00:05:11.000 Let's talk about this first story.

00:05:13.000 It's a crazy story, but I don't want to go hard on deep cultural issues, because we're going to lose control of the feed in about 10 minutes.

00:05:20.000 This is from TimCast.com.

00:05:23.000 First Texas bus drops off illegal immigrants in Washington, D.C.

00:05:28.000 The convoy is part of Texas Governor Greg Abbott's push to secure the southern border and stem the flow of illegal immigration from Central America.

00:05:36.000 So basically what happens is Joe Biden's administration starts sending illegal immigrants to communities in Texas.

00:05:43.000 People get really upset by this for obvious reasons.

00:05:45.000 He's been doing it all over the country, even in the dead of night.

00:05:48.000 The governor of Texas said, okay, I'll tell you what, you want to do that here?

00:05:51.000 I'm going to send these people to DC.

00:05:53.000 Jen Psaki calls it a publicity stunt. 0.97

00:05:56.000 Then he actually does it.

00:05:58.000 Ron DeSantis says he's going to do the same thing, but send them up to Delaware.

00:06:02.000 Boom! 0.99

00:06:03.000 That's where they need to send them. 0.70

00:06:04.000 Exactly.

00:06:05.000 It's not perfect, right?

00:06:07.000 Sending people to Delaware will just make people in Delaware upset.

00:06:10.000 But the point is like, hey, Biden's the one who's doing it, so why don't you guys get a taste?

00:06:14.000 Here's the thing.

00:06:16.000 I'd be willing to believe that Biden's already sending illegal immigrants to Delaware and other states.

00:06:19.000 They're all over the country.

00:06:21.000 So Well, I don't know if you guys have thoughts on this.

00:06:25.000 I'm curious of the process.

00:06:26.000 Do they just take them on a bus and pull up to a street and they just tell them to scatter?

00:06:31.000 Where are they getting dropped off at?

00:06:33.000 My understanding is they actually just walked them off the bus and said, have a nice day.

00:06:37.000 Whoa.

00:06:38.000 That's wild.

00:06:38.000 Yup.

00:06:40.000 The people have all agreed to go on the bus, I believe, too.

00:06:43.000 This is only people that have acquiesced.

00:06:45.000 They have agreed to go on the bus.

00:06:47.000 So I wonder if that'll end up being an endless supply of people, or will they run out of, because it can't just be a one-off.

00:06:55.000 Because it is, you know, Jen Psaki, if this is just a one-off publicity stunt, you get headlines, but if there's a steady stream of them being dropped off in Delaware and in Washington, D.C., and you can keep that drumbeat going, and people start experiencing what, you know, has happened to These states that are on the Mexican border.

00:07:18.000 If you can start really feeling that experience in DC and in Delaware and other places, Biden and these guys are going to have to react.

00:07:26.000 Our immigration deal just is the most bizarre. 0.93

00:07:29.000 It's not the most bizarre because we have so many bizarre things going on, but it's in the top 10.

00:07:33.000 We'll get to them all, I'm sure.

00:07:34.000 What is the Delaware?

00:07:35.000 What's so hot about Delaware being a destination?

00:07:38.000 That's Joe Biden's state.

00:07:40.000 Send him to his home state. 0.92

00:07:45.000 There's an article from the Daily Beast where they said it's xenophobic for the Republicans to do this.

00:07:52.000 And I'm just like, well, hold on.

00:07:53.000 Joe Biden is sending these people by force on buses to Texas.

00:07:59.000 Greg Abbott is asking them if they want to get on a bus to go to D.C.

00:08:03.000 So, is not what Joe Biden doing xenophobic?

00:08:06.000 This is the game we've been talking about a lot, but it just happens, the double standard.

00:08:10.000 It's an endless conversation every day about the double standard between what the administration, the Democrats, the establishment are allowed to do, always defended, and anybody who counters in any way is accused of all of the worst far-right whatever.

00:08:23.000 I think they would perhaps prefer to be in D.C.

00:08:27.000 as well.

00:08:27.000 It would be easier to get your free cell phones right there in D.C.

00:08:31.000 There's probably a Direct Connect.

00:08:32.000 They probably got a deal set up with Cricket or somebody to get these people the free cell phones they were promised.

00:08:39.000 I don't think it's fair to call them xenophobic, personally.

00:08:42.000 I just looked up the definition.

00:08:43.000 One unduly fearful of what is foreign, and especially of people of foreign origin. 0.57

00:08:47.000 So being unduly fearful of what is foreign, it's not that... I think a lot of this isn't coming from fear of foreigners.

00:08:52.000 It's that you disrupt the local economy when you import people that don't understand the culture or speak the language. 1.00

00:08:56.000 You gotta be really careful about disrupting your economy.

00:08:59.000 The United States is very young.

00:09:00.000 It hasn't experienced a large immigration that completely altered the government.

00:09:05.000 Like when people come in slowly and then all of a sudden, they're the ones that start to get their...

00:09:09.000 It happened to the Roman Empire.

00:09:10.000 I mean, it's the way the Roman Empire fell, really.

00:09:12.000 It's the barbarians from the north or whatever, they came in over hundreds of years and then now they are 1.00

00:09:17.000 their government and then...

00:09:18.000 I don't know if I believe in hyper xenophobia, but I am probably xenophobic because I want people that

00:09:27.000 share my values in this country.

00:09:30.000 I want people that believe in freedom as the ultimate prize, not entitlement as the ultimate prize or victimization as the ultimate prize.

00:09:41.000 And again, I don't know the people flooding our borders and immigrating illegally.

00:09:45.000 Maybe they do believe in American freedom.

00:09:47.000 Maybe that's why they're coming here.

00:09:49.000 But I don't think that's what the Democrats and the people leading our immigration policy I don't think those are the values they want them to have.

00:10:00.000 I don't think you're xenophobic.

00:10:01.000 You know, they use these phobia words to make you sound unreasonable.

00:10:05.000 And if you're just saying, look, personally, I'm not scared of people from Central, South America, or you even have people from Africa coming in.

00:10:14.000 I'm not scared of any of these people.

00:10:16.000 In fact, I know some people, and they're good people, I hear.

00:10:19.000 You know, Trump said some of them are good people, right?

00:10:21.000 No, the reality is they want what a lot of people want, opportunity in America.

00:10:25.000 In fact, I have more respect for them and their desires than I do for many of these woke people in this country.

00:10:29.000 If there's one thing I am worried about is the woke people. 0.57

00:10:33.000 But the issue of xenophobia, that's a ridiculous term.

00:10:36.000 It's meant to obfuscate the real conversation.

00:10:38.000 The real conversation is there are economic limits to what you can do with people just coming across whenever they want.

00:10:46.000 You end up strangling the labor market.

00:10:49.000 You end up flooding the labor market.

00:10:50.000 Supply and demand takes effect, and then people's wages get depressed.

00:10:53.000 There's challenges there.

00:10:54.000 And then, as you pointed out, there are a lot of people here who want to be here.

00:10:57.000 And again, I do respect that desire to be in America because I know how much this country rocks.

00:11:02.000 But if they don't understand our Constitution, if they don't understand our values, then it dilutes our values and the things that made this country great.

00:11:10.000 So if there's somebody who says, guys, here's the recipe for a great cake, and then you say, we're gonna let 10 more bakers in who don't know how to bake it, but they're gonna be involved, well then things are gonna get a little wishy-washy.

00:11:21.000 That's why my attitude is always like, let everybody come.

00:11:24.000 Everybody can come, but they gotta wait in line like normal and go through a standard process.

00:11:28.000 That way we can make sure The recipe doesn't get disrupted, but we can have more cooks in the kitchen just as long as everybody's following the rules and we all agree on how it's supposed to go.

00:11:36.000 It's not fear.

00:11:38.000 It's actually, it's, I would consider it to be more compassionate so that you can make sure people can thrive and that you're not just throwing them into the middle of a desert where these kids are dying of dehydration.

00:11:49.000 I think you're talking about just being responsible.

00:11:52.000 And it's no different than who you would allow into your home. 0.94

00:11:55.000 Particularly if you've got kids, wife, husband, whatever.

00:12:00.000 You want to be a responsible homeowner.

00:12:02.000 And so you just don't let any and everybody into your home. 1.00

00:12:06.000 That's the way I feel about America.

00:12:08.000 You see these stories of the refugee crisis.

00:12:11.000 And a lot of people were like, you know, are you going to let some of these refugees into your houses? 1.00

00:12:16.000 Many of these left activists who were very much like, yeah, we got to let all the refugees in, would not offer up any of their homes. 1.00

00:12:23.000 Now, I do personally know left-wing woke activists who did.

00:12:27.000 And it was great success.

00:12:29.000 And I'm like, that's amazing that you had the resources, you had a plan, you were capable to do this.

00:12:35.000 Not everybody is.

00:12:36.000 Asking a middle class family who's just scraping by paycheck to paycheck to open their doors to somebody?

00:12:42.000 That's what you're doing when you're like, let's have open borders.

00:12:45.000 Let's allow all these people to come in.

00:12:47.000 You guys might be in big cities with a higher standard of living, a higher cost of living, you have more money.

00:12:47.000 Yeah, I get it.

00:12:52.000 But the poor working class people who are paycheck to paycheck, it's straining their lives.

00:12:56.000 And that's not okay, right?

00:12:59.000 You gotta respect the working class people.

00:13:02.000 It's that whole concept of like the luxury belief where you can have these beliefs because you're not really incurring the cost directly, you're sort of exporting those costs to those around you who are taking the brunt of the policies you advocate for.

00:13:16.000 Like the people who are most likely to say something like, you know, abolish the police, There tend to be, like, upper-class white people who have probably live in gated communities.

00:13:25.000 These aren't the people who are dealing in these cities, these areas where there's high crime.

00:13:31.000 So it's really easy for someone like that to say, you know, these platitudes that really sound good.

00:13:35.000 They sort of give them this credit to the people around them because, again, they're not incurring these costs.

00:13:41.000 The guy named Rob Henderson, he coined that term.

00:13:43.000 I want to add, too, just back to the conversation about the buses.

00:13:48.000 Bringing illegal immigrants into these areas just does exactly what Democrats were hoping was going to happen anyway. 0.99

00:13:54.000 That you're going to increase the population of a district, which results in the census resulting in a larger population after the census, and then they'll get more congressional seats, more electoral seats.

00:14:04.000 So yeah, send them to D.C.

00:14:06.000 maybe makes sense because they don't get representation.

00:14:06.000 D.C.

00:14:09.000 Sending people to Delaware just gives Delaware more congressional power and more electoral votes.

00:14:15.000 So the real issue is, you know, people should be welcome to this country with open arms through a legal process that makes sure they thrive, and so do we.

00:14:23.000 But I think the main issue is people on the left, they're not having kids.

00:14:28.000 So they need to find ways that in the next 20 years, they will still have voting power.

00:14:33.000 And that's by bringing in new people who have a tendency to vote for democratic policies and democratic politicians.

00:14:38.000 Conservatives have kids, liberals don't.

00:14:40.000 So liberals need to go to the schools to get your kids in line with their views, so they can get conservative kids on their side, or they need to bring people in who will side with them.

00:14:49.000 Reminds me of a Netflix documentary that I watch called Wild Wild Country.

00:14:54.000 It's about Portland, or an area in Oregon, not Portland, but an area in Oregon that was taken over by this Indian Hindu, like, Nosha? 0.98

00:15:06.000 Nosha?

00:15:08.000 He was basically a sex guru or whatever and they started literally to gain voting power and to take over this section of Oregon.

00:15:17.000 They started recruiting, this happened in the 70s, this is like a real life story, they started busing in people from Los Angeles, homeless people.

00:15:25.000 into this area so they could change the voting demographics in Oregon so they could take over more.

00:15:31.000 And it ended up the homeless people were on drugs and many of them violent,

00:15:36.000 and they actually turned on the people that brought them there

00:15:39.000 because their needs weren't getting met.

00:15:42.000 It's one of the best, greatest documentaries I've ever seen,

00:15:46.000 because it happened in the 70s and explains everything that's going on today.

00:15:49.000 It takes time, and they're willing to invest the time.

00:15:53.000 So if someone who is eight years old today gets indoctrinated in a school,

00:15:57.000 they're voting in 10 years.

00:15:59.000 So it's a long game.

00:16:00.000 We can't think in short-term cycles like two and four years.

00:16:04.000 You gotta think 10, 20 years.

00:16:04.000 You gotta think ahead.

00:16:06.000 Someone born today, more likely to be conservative

00:16:09.000 because of just standard demographics of conservatives having kids,

00:16:12.000 liberals not, and also having abortions.

00:16:14.000 So you got 18 years until conservatives get that advantage.

00:16:17.000 How do you counter that?

00:16:18.000 They know this.

00:16:19.000 They play the long game.

00:16:21.000 Conservatives, I think, you know, the politically-minded, politically-careered are probably thinking about this on the conservative side.

00:16:31.000 I think regular people miss this.

00:16:32.000 You know, they don't understand necessarily why the schools do what they do when they go after kids.

00:16:37.000 A lot of what the left is doing seems desperate to me and it makes me think that they think they only have a limited amount of time to execute their plan before the whole thing collapses in on them.

00:16:50.000 Yeah, I was thinking how much of it is desperation, how much of it is instinct-like.

00:16:53.000 It seems like humans have an instinct to parent.

00:16:55.000 I don't know.

00:16:55.000 I do.

00:16:56.000 I don't know if you guys do.

00:16:57.000 I feel like I just love kids.

00:16:58.000 I wanted to help kids.

00:16:59.000 And so I was like, well, if I never actually have kids, what's reproduction?

00:17:03.000 If I make a bunch of videos and there's a bunch of copies of it, then I'm forming some sort of reproduction that will affect society.

00:17:08.000 And maybe I can help the children that way.

00:17:10.000 Very leftist mentality, you know?

00:17:11.000 It's very much like what we've seen now.

00:17:13.000 And I wonder if it's just like they really want to help, but they're so twisted that they're trying to help by, you know, infusing these specific ideals.

00:17:23.000 Or if they actually want to hurt people.

00:17:25.000 I'm not getting the vibe that they want to hurt people.

00:17:27.000 It just seems more like a communist... They want power.

00:17:30.000 ...mental shift.

00:17:31.000 It's like taking hold of these people or something.

00:17:33.000 I don't know if communist is the right word.

00:17:35.000 They want power, and they're not afraid to... They're not afraid to inflict collateral damage on people to get it.

00:17:42.000 I think that's true of anyone, you know, but I think there's a tendency, what we see with the establishment, the Democratic Party, and even the uniparty Republican types.

00:17:50.000 What's happened is there's been a populist uprising, also on the left.

00:17:53.000 I think a lot of the Bernie people, many of them moved over, 9 million Obama voters moved over to vote for Trump.

00:17:59.000 It's really just about populism.

00:18:01.000 He had Steve Bannon saying he was far right and then he says tax the rich and I'm like

00:18:01.000 We the people?

00:18:05.000 I don't know if that's far right dude I think that's actually a left position but it's just

00:18:08.000 a populist position.

00:18:10.000 It's about are you in support of elites telling you what to do and how to live or do you think

00:18:14.000 the people, we the people should decide and form our own government.

00:18:20.000 We the people, what were you going to say Jason?

00:18:22.000 Well I was going to piggyback on.

00:18:24.000 Am I right?

00:18:25.000 Are you an atheist or agnostic?

00:18:27.000 More agnostic than anything.

00:18:28.000 Okay.

00:18:29.000 And so what I see from the left, honestly, is just, they think that they're secular.

00:18:35.000 So they think they're God.

00:18:37.000 And, uh, it's just a power grab.

00:18:40.000 And, and again, did you probably watch the, or saw a little bit of like Game of Thrones?

00:18:45.000 And Game of Thrones is just a story, when it was good, the first four or five seasons, about what human beings will do for power in anything.

00:18:54.000 They'll do anything for power.

00:18:55.000 And that, and particularly if you don't have some kind of religious belief, some kind of faith in a higher power, and you think you're capable of being the ultimate decider, It puts you in a very bad... you'll do very bad things for power because you have so much belief in your ability to control things and do what's best for other people.

00:19:18.000 And I just don't have that kind of arrogance because I believe I'm just a very tiny insignificant part of this thing that God put together.

00:19:27.000 And, you know, I don't want that kind of power.

00:19:31.000 I literally want to stick to the principles taught in the Bible and, you know, hope for the best and hope that I'm right.

00:19:40.000 And I just see the left is so secular.

00:19:45.000 And they see themselves as God.

00:19:48.000 That's what scares me.

00:19:49.000 What makes me nervous about the church is I feel like the church has acted as now they are the mouthpiece of God.

00:19:55.000 It's like another form of secularism, almost.

00:19:58.000 Like, who cares about a building and a guy that tells you he's a priest?

00:20:01.000 Like, God's real.

00:20:02.000 God's out there.

00:20:03.000 God is an energy field flowing.

00:20:04.000 Like, it's there.

00:20:05.000 It's always there.

00:20:07.000 You don't need someone to... You don't need to, like, be told.

00:20:10.000 You don't need authority to tell you that.

00:20:12.000 What about your relationship with God?

00:20:14.000 I feel it.

00:20:14.000 Leave the church out of it.

00:20:15.000 I feel it.

00:20:17.000 Science has helped me see the cosmic microwave background.

00:20:19.000 Radiation, for instance, is this web of energy left over after the Big Bang.

00:20:22.000 You see it arcing through star systems, and then you feel your heart beating.

00:20:25.000 It's getting, like... The heat is coming from without.

00:20:28.000 Like, we're getting these electrical currents pumping through us.

00:20:31.000 And after I started to see...

00:20:33.000 Smoke a lot of weed.

00:20:34.000 That helped a lot.

00:20:36.000 And to feel the heat.

00:20:37.000 And then you can feel your own heat.

00:20:38.000 And I'm like, wow, did Jesus do Reiki?

00:20:40.000 And then you see that Jesus like went off maybe to India for some period in his early life and and studied like Hinduism and Reiki and came back as like a healer.

00:20:48.000 So I started doing Reiki.

00:20:49.000 And that's real.

00:20:50.000 Let me let me throw in there.

00:20:51.000 I think I actually enjoy when when Ian and Seamus talk about religious stuff, because Seamus comes from a more like What's the right word?

00:21:00.000 He's devout.

00:21:02.000 He goes to Mass.

00:21:03.000 Ian has a bunch of ideas about spirituality that I think need to be answered, and it creates something interesting.

00:21:09.000 I certainly think Ian sees or feels something that needs to be answered or defined, and maybe in the more rigid structures, people have thought about these things.

00:21:20.000 I also want to add, the suspense is killing me because I'm like, what's going on?

00:21:23.000 I know.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:24.000 Someone's supposed to come to the door at any minute.

00:21:25.000 Yeah, it should be any second now.

00:21:27.000 720.

00:21:28.000 I know, it's time.

00:21:28.000 I'll say briefly, you know, as a card-carrying atheist myself, a major problem is we have, you know, it's not religion per se that's the problem.

00:21:37.000 I think it's like the dogma that tends to go hand-in-hand with it.

00:21:40.000 And a lot of people on the left, a lot of these woke people, they've convinced themselves that they're not religious and that they also have no dogma.

00:21:48.000 Where that's the complete error.

00:21:49.000 Like, they have their own dogma, but since they've convinced themselves they're non-religious, they think they're impervious to this.

00:21:54.000 they don't see themselves as actually acting religious in many areas where they absolutely

00:21:59.000 are.

00:22:00.000 We're good to go?

00:22:01.000 Alright, we're good to go everybody.

00:22:02.000 We're doing something weird.

00:22:04.000 Here we go.

00:22:04.000 This is the first on TimCast IRL.

00:22:06.000 They're taking over.

00:22:07.000 They're taking Tim!

00:22:08.000 Are we still on the air, or are they already taking over?

00:22:10.000 They're gonna steal us in just one second.

00:22:12.000 You heard it here, you guys.

00:22:13.000 We're still on the air.

00:22:15.000 Oh, snap. 0.99

00:22:16.000 Let me show you guys what's going on.

00:22:18.000 I think we're off now.

00:22:18.000 We've given them the strength.

00:22:20.000 I gave them control.

00:22:22.000 Look at this.

00:22:24.000 I'm going to do it again.

00:22:47.000 Okay.

00:22:48.000 So, I'm going to start with the first one.

00:22:49.000 I'm going to start with the first one.

00:24:26.000 Welcome to my show everybody.

00:24:28.000 Thanks for having me.

00:24:30.000 This is the best line.

00:24:30.000 Absolutely.

00:24:32.000 I really like being on your show.

00:24:35.000 I'm really excited to be here.

00:25:03.000 I'm really excited to be here.

00:25:30.000 And it's very simple.

00:25:32.000 This is a situation in which I'm going to put my mouse to the right of my computer.

00:25:37.000 And the idea is that I have a way to move the different bytes.

00:25:44.000 But if I'm just going to move my mouse first, that's all I have time to do, of course.

00:25:48.000 This is a very, very simple situation.

00:25:50.000 I'm going to move my mouse first.

00:25:52.000 So I have a way to use the cursor to move my mouse first.

00:25:55.000 So I'm going to put my mouse to the right of my computer.

00:25:58.000 And I'm going to move my mouse to the right of my computer.

00:26:00.000 And I'm going to do something that I think is going to be very, very cool.

00:26:04.000 And I'm going to move my mouse to the left of my computer.

00:26:07.000 And so I'm starting to move my mouse to the left of my computer.

00:26:09.000 And I'm going to move my mouse to the right of my computer.

00:26:12.000 And I'm going to use the same way that I'm moving my mouse to the right of my computer.

00:26:16.000 And I'm going to say, hello.

00:27:19.000 So I'm going to say, hello.

00:27:21.000 And I'm going to say, hello.

00:27:44.000 So I'm going to say, hello.

00:27:46.000 And I'm going to say, hello.

00:27:53.000 And this is a function of the same, at the same time also.

00:27:57.000 So we have one from this, and this is one from that.

00:27:59.000 So it's a two-dimensional space, and this is a space of this,

00:28:02.000 and this is a space of that.

00:28:03.000 And this is a function of the same, as the question, again, for the same equation.

00:28:10.000 And I'm going to tell you why I'm not going to do this, actually.

00:28:13.000 Because this is a very good example.

00:28:15.000 It's not a good example.

00:28:16.000 It's a very nice example.

00:28:17.000 And I'm going to tell you why I'm going to do this.

00:34:54.000 And that's why I'm so proud of the fact that we're here today.

00:34:58.000 I'm so proud of the fact that we're so proud of you.

00:35:02.000 I'm so proud of the fact that you're here, and I'm so proud of you.

00:35:06.000 So, I'm gonna go first, and I'm gonna go to the mic.

00:35:10.000 I'm gonna go first, and I'm gonna go to the mic.

00:36:05.000 I think he's relevant for, one, having the biggest podcast in the world, but I think he speaks to a lot of people who are in the middle and confused or don't necessarily know how they're going to vote come 2022 and 2024.

00:36:17.000 But I think if these people, the moderates, independents, former left people, see Michelle Obama, I think a lot of them will be convinced to vote Democrat again.

00:36:25.000 I'm not entirely convinced.

00:36:28.000 For me, my brain exploded after 2020 with just, yeah, I'm done with this.

00:36:32.000 you know, or 2018 even, when I think it was 31 seats, districts that voted for Trump, vote Democrat.

00:36:42.000 And all of these moderate Democrats said, we're going to bring you kitchen table issues.

00:36:44.000 We're not going to focus on culture war issues.

00:36:46.000 And the first thing they do is they move to impeach Trump.

00:36:48.000 And it felt like I was just spit on.

00:36:50.000 I was like, you know, I had faith that if I just, you know, pushed back, I donated to

00:36:54.000 a lot of some of these Democrats thinking that they'll actually reconfigure things and

00:36:59.000 fix this and they only made it worse.

00:37:02.000 The only thing I think that could really harm Michelle Obama, if she were to run, is I think

00:37:05.000 that she really has ideologically, she always has been very radical and I think that she

00:37:09.000 will re-embrace wokeness because she too is in that bubble.

00:37:13.000 Ironically, the thing that we complain the most about is probably the thing that may

00:37:16.000 save the republic and that is the media bias.

00:37:18.000 The media bias is so strong that Democrats do not understand that there's an entire world outside of the beltway that just thinks they're crazy.

00:37:25.000 And so the reason that you see the White House saying things like, well, you know, it's very important that we use the DOJ to crack down on people stopping little girls from being turned into little boys, the reason they say that is because the New York Times agrees with them, and the Washington Post agrees with them, and everybody they know agrees with them.

00:37:37.000 The other thing about Michelle Obama is that she's attractive to people, I guess. 0.97

00:37:41.000 Not to me, but to people as, like, an idea.

00:37:44.000 But if she's running for office, then she's actually going to have to be out there talking. 1.00

00:37:48.000 When you listen to her talk, kind of to your point about how radical she is, but also she's just really kind of a vile human being. 0.99

00:37:54.000 I'll never forget this story she told on a podcast somewhere about when she experienced Racism, like she was still harboring this resentment because she went to get ice cream and a white woman didn't notice her and cut in front of her.

00:38:08.000 And she told this whole story about how she was a victim of racism as the first lady of the United States because a white woman was getting ice cream before her.

00:38:15.000 Well, there's that story that she told about how she went to the grocery store and she was tall, so somebody asked her to take something down from the top shelf.

00:38:20.000 She said that that was racism.

00:38:20.000 Exactly.

00:38:22.000 It's like, no, you're just tall.

00:38:23.000 I mean, I'd ask Matt to get something from the top shelf for me.

00:38:26.000 Who are the voters who fall for that stuff?

00:38:28.000 Yeah, see, I agree with you, Tim.

00:38:30.000 You know, I think that Michelle Obama, I don't think she would run, but I think that she is a good candidate if she runs.

00:38:36.000 But, you know, the voters are not as enamored of identity politics as the Democrats are.

00:38:41.000 In no way are they.

00:38:42.000 Well, the poll about the parental rights and education bill in Florida has overwhelming support from Democrat voters who were polled at the very least, yet they double down on this stuff.

00:38:51.000 It's like you were saying, the media bias is palpable.

00:38:54.000 I don't know if you guys saw CNN Plus only has 10,000 daily active users.

00:38:58.000 Wow.

00:39:00.000 Hold on just a second.

00:39:04.000 But I think I'll enjoy Chris Wallace's new show, What Have I Done?

00:39:11.000 By the way, who was the business genius at Warner who was like, OK, so we have CNN and no one watches it.

00:39:16.000 What if we take the same host and we put them behind a paywall doing more boring things?

00:39:23.000 I mean, how does this go wrong here, guys?

00:39:25.000 This seems like a genius business plan to me.

00:39:27.000 Well, they're actually giving you money every time you don't watch CNN.

00:39:30.000 You know, make money.

00:39:31.000 I like it.

00:39:32.000 You know, I will tell you guys something interesting, though, because Matt and I were talking about this the other day when I asked you, why is it the Daily Wire has 600,000 plus subscribers?

00:39:39.000 CNN can't even get 10,000 daily users.

00:39:41.000 You mentioned Mission, I think is what you said, right?

00:39:44.000 When I worked for- Well, I said the reason is me, and then- The number two reason.

00:39:48.000 He did say that.

00:39:49.000 He said he was better than everybody.

00:39:51.000 You know, when I was working for these big corporate media outlets, I was at a company called Fusion, which is ABC News and Univision.

00:39:59.000 They said mission-driven storytelling.

00:40:01.000 That was their line as to what their goals were.

00:40:04.000 It's almost like they were either predicting or wanting politics to be the main driver of what was going to bring people to different media outlets.

00:40:11.000 The only issue is I felt like their narratives were built on lies and manipulation.

00:40:16.000 We have to withhold information from people, trick them, feed them only the information we want, whereas I feel like with what you guys do, with what we do, it's here's everything, let's argue about it.

00:40:26.000 Yeah.

00:40:27.000 That's what I love about this show that we get to do once a month, is that we quite often disagree.

00:40:32.000 And those disagreements, I think, are central to what makes The Daily Wire work.

00:40:35.000 I think at the core of The Daily Wire's success is our fundamental religious difference.

00:40:41.000 We talked about it today, in fact, that our fundamental religious disagreement Means that central to our friendship is the idea that there's not ubiquity in, or that there's not... Unanimity.

00:40:51.000 Unanimity in our thought.

00:40:52.000 And that's, it's not that we don't have a strong perspective as a company, it's not that we don't have a strong, that we don't have a side in the fight, but it's that we are actually engaged in the exchange of ideas and trying to always learn more and know more and be better.

00:41:05.000 Tim, thank you for, well, for coming on Uninvited.

00:41:08.000 Please feel free to invite yourself on the show.

00:41:11.000 Again in the future.

00:41:13.000 Thank you to all of our dailywire.com members for making this possible.

00:41:15.000 We're going to wrap up because there's a thunderstorm rolling in.

00:41:17.000 This guy's got to get back to his tornado bait trailer.

00:41:19.000 And Ben Shapiro has to get on an airplane and get out of here.

00:41:23.000 Head over to dailywire.com slash subscribe.

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00:41:31.000 We'd really appreciate you being a member.

00:41:33.000 We appreciate our members making it possible for us to do the work that we're doing, including fighting woke Disney.

00:41:37.000 So thanks again.

00:41:38.000 We'll see you next week.

00:41:38.000 We'll give you a fake laugh.

00:41:39.000 I don't know, one of these days.

00:41:41.000 Can I just run out the door now?

00:41:42.000 Yeah, you should leave.

00:41:43.000 Thanks guys, it was a pleasure.

00:41:45.000 Thanks, thanks for having us.

00:41:47.000 Out here you may have had a technical glitch there in the earlier show, earlier part of the show.

00:41:52.000 They were talking about Trump-DeSantis and who was going to run.

00:41:56.000 And then they kind of parlayed the conversation into the Democrats and who they thought was going to run for the Democrats.

00:42:00.000 I thought that Ben Shapiro made a very interesting point about populism when he mentioned Michelle Obama and running a populist candidate.

00:42:09.000 I'm interested to see what you guys think about that.

00:42:12.000 The Michelle Obama question, that part of the discussion is what fascinated me because I do think she would probably be the best candidate for the Democrats.

00:42:24.000 I do think again corporate media is obsessed with oh so-and-so's making history because they're the first black woman this just like we just saw with Kadenji Brown-Jackson and so People love, they're fascinated by participating or witnessing history.

00:42:45.000 And again, it's like when Barack Obama first ran in 2008, I think a lot of people voted because this is a history-making deal and I want to be on the record and I voted for Barack Obama and it's proof that I'm not racist.

00:42:55.000 It's got the history building and they've spent a lot of years curating Michelle Obama's image.

00:43:01.000 And having the last name Obama is just gonna be huge in the realm of politics.

00:43:05.000 So yeah, she is the nuclear option for sure. 0.99

00:43:09.000 We had parlayed what you guys were talking about with populism, and I liked how Ben brought up Michelle Obama.

00:43:14.000 I think we may have had an audio technical glitch in the first part, and then it seemed to smooth out.

00:43:17.000 Oh, it worked.

00:43:18.000 Yeah, you guys got it the first time, you know, and it's all about it.

00:43:20.000 When you have a new piece of technology, a new cool idea, you try it, and if it fails, you try it again, and you do it, and then you get it right.

00:43:26.000 And that's what we're doing here.

00:43:27.000 That was fun.

00:43:28.000 That looked great, man.

00:43:28.000 I run through the rain and make it in.

00:43:30.000 Yeah, you're kind of damp now.

00:43:32.000 And hang out those guys.

00:43:33.000 Cigar smoke everywhere.

00:43:34.000 What were you guys talking about?

00:43:37.000 So let's let's let's let's get back into it.

00:43:39.000 And thanks for, you know, sitting around while I was doing that thing.

00:43:41.000 I enjoyed watching.

00:43:43.000 That was fascinating.

00:43:44.000 That was not the conversation I was expecting, but I was fascinated.

00:43:47.000 Shout out to Ron DeSantis.

00:43:48.000 Thanks for bringing him up.

00:43:50.000 And we were just basically carrying the conversation forward from where you guys were talking about, you know, who do you think the Democrats who do you think the Democrats are going to run?

00:43:56.000 Because I cannot imagine it would be Joe Biden at this point.

00:43:59.000 I will say with, uh, you know, I'm sitting there and I know I'm in for the last few minutes of The Daily Wire's show, but I don't want to just keep talking over everybody, but I also kind of felt like, well, I should talk because I'm only here for a few minutes.

00:44:09.000 Yeah.

00:44:10.000 But I don't, I don't, I, you know, I know Ben was saying he thinks they have to have Joe Biden run.

00:44:15.000 They're going to strap him to a gurney and wheel him out.

00:44:18.000 I think he's right, but I don't think even strapping him to a gurney would make it possible for him to run.

00:44:24.000 The dude couldn't couldn't run in the first place. He was calling a lid and

00:44:28.000 just sleeping the whole time.

00:44:29.000 Yeah.

00:44:30.000 And, uh, and, and Ben mentioned it was a referendum on Trump. I don't even think we're gonna have a

00:44:34.000 referendum on Biden. I think we're having a referendum on Democrats. So this, this midterm

00:44:39.000 election is going to be big. And I think it's going to, there's a lot of variables between now

00:44:44.000 and 2022, the midterm elections and 2024. But I don't, you know, it's tough to say because I feel

00:44:52.000 like reading the news every day, watching what's going on, seeing the impacts that certainly

00:44:57.000 regular people must be feeling some of this.

00:45:00.000 But maybe that's just wrong.

00:45:02.000 Maybe even though we might see the problem and have some solutions to offer, regular people don't know what the problem is.

00:45:10.000 So they're being approached by two different groups, Democrats and Republicans, who are saying, trust me, I'll do right by you.

00:45:17.000 I'm sitting here saying I've watched the news relentlessly.

00:45:19.000 I've been reading about this.

00:45:20.000 I've seen the policies.

00:45:21.000 I don't think anybody's perfect.

00:45:23.000 I think everybody gets a little bit of the blame.

00:45:25.000 But obviously Donald Trump was better.

00:45:27.000 And they say, oh, but you're biased.

00:45:28.000 I can't trust you.

00:45:29.000 And it's like, you know, they call you right wing if you're telling the truth at this point.

00:45:33.000 If you say something like, Joe Biden flew his son on Air Force Two to China for a private equity deal, that's a conflict of interest.

00:45:40.000 They say that's a right-wing talking point.

00:45:41.000 No, it's a fact.

00:45:42.000 And I'm not going to vote for a guy who did that. 1.00

00:45:44.000 Donald Trump also has, you know, stupid BS for sure. 1.00

00:45:47.000 They were advertising Trump Golf Resorts or whatever on some State Department website. 1.00

00:45:50.000 I'm not a fan of that.

00:45:52.000 But if I have to choose between the two, Trump is objectively better.

00:45:56.000 I think this is going to be an election where there's a lot of people, and I put myself in that camp, sort of those disaffected, left of center, people who are still consider themselves liberals in many sense.

00:46:10.000 During the last election, I couldn't bring myself to vote for either of the parties.

00:46:14.000 I didn't like Trump.

00:46:15.000 I just couldn't bring myself to vote for him.

00:46:18.000 I couldn't vote for Biden either.

00:46:20.000 But if this next election doesn't have Trump in it, I mean, it's just, there's so many people, I think, that are in my boat who, there's no reason not to vote for a Republican anymore.

00:46:30.000 DeSantis has all the best parts of Trump, where he's, you know, he's bold, he's anti-woke, he's gonna go after people, he's not gonna take crap from anybody.

00:46:38.000 But he doesn't have, like, that narcissistic insanity, what's he gonna do next? 0.81

00:46:43.000 Is he just gonna, you know, start pushing the nuke button or something?

00:46:46.000 And I think that's actually a powerful thing.

00:46:47.000 I think this is the first election in a while where those disaffected liberals are actually free to vote their mind in a way they hadn't been previously.

00:46:57.000 Let's talk about these stories that we pulled up.

00:46:59.000 We got one from the New York Post.

00:47:01.000 Mind the tornado above us.

00:47:03.000 I apologize.

00:47:04.000 This is from the New York Post.

00:47:06.000 ESPN star Jason Whitlock blasts Disney for feminizing sports.

00:47:12.000 I, yes, and I think this is gonna, this is gonna be a, uh, this will play a role in the upcoming elections in that you've got what's happening with the NCAA swimming with, uh, with Leah Thomas.

00:47:25.000 And I know I've been critical of people who refuse to speak up, saying, if you're not speaking up publicly, how can I defend you?

00:47:31.000 Because people will just say, nobody's mad about this, what are you complaining about, if you can't stand up for yourself?

00:47:36.000 But I will say, at the very least, these people will be secret Trump voters.

00:47:40.000 Like we saw in 2016 and 2020, a large percentage of people who would not admit it, but once they get into the polling booth, they look around, look over their shoulders, and then hit Trump a million times.

00:47:50.000 The history of voting, it's secret for a reason, because that's a natural part of people's minds.

00:47:54.000 When they see crap out there, they don't want to have to stand up and say it, but they're going to vote the way they feel.

00:47:59.000 See the lights flicker there? 0.99

00:48:01.000 We in the rain now.

00:48:02.000 How did the lights flicker?

00:48:03.000 We're on independent electricity.

00:48:05.000 Magnetic fields.

00:48:06.000 So Jason, let's talk about your take on the feminization of sports.

00:48:10.000 Well, I think a lot of people it kind of went over their heads in 1996 when Disney acquired ABC and ESPN and and that once you start Once you're taken over by Disney, Disney's going to promote its values.

00:48:32.000 There's no greater cultural force than perhaps Disney across the entire globe.

00:48:40.000 So I think Disney came in with an agenda.

00:48:43.000 I think in 1994, Disney tried to acquire NBC.

00:48:48.000 Couldn't.

00:48:49.000 NBC at that time had the NBA broadcast.

00:48:52.000 Disney has wanted to get in the sports lane.

00:48:55.000 They got into the sports lane with ESPN because they understand anybody in the entertainment field, entertainment industry understands that live sports is the most valuable asset for attracting a massive audience and being able to preach your values to a massive audience.

00:49:12.000 Particularly in this now DVR watch stuff when you want to era that we're in live sports is the only thing where people sit down and watch it as it happens live and so they wanted ESPN they wanted in the sports world and they wanted to apply their values their culture to the sports world and that's what has happened and I think Disney Based on their attack on young kids and the sexuality and the gender thing, Disney believes in the matriarchy.

00:49:44.000 Disney believes in the uprooting of the patriarchy.

00:49:47.000 Disney is very feminist. 1.00

00:49:49.000 And they've applied all those values to ESPN, which is the worldwide leader in sports.

00:49:54.000 And that's why if you just look at sports over the last 25, 30 years since Disney has owned ESPN, sports have just become softer and more feminized.

00:50:05.000 I actually, I spoke about this in 2018.

00:50:09.000 When we were seeing culture, you know, video games, movies, seeing all the woke influx, I said, it's gonna be real crazy when the NFL, the NBA, and major league sports start being forced to adopt these things.

00:50:24.000 And we're starting to see it.

00:50:25.000 You know, we spoke with Jonathan Isaac.

00:50:27.000 That dude's awesome.

00:50:28.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 And he was talking about how he didn't want to kneel for Black Lives Matter.

00:50:32.000 People got mad at him about it.

00:50:33.000 So we had a meeting, we said we're gonna do this, and he was like, I don't believe in it though.

00:50:37.000 The crazy thing is, here's a guy, you got Colin Kaepernick who kneels.

00:50:41.000 He gets ragged on for it.

00:50:42.000 Well, he brought politics into the game.

00:50:44.000 I understand why people might be mad about that.

00:50:46.000 Well, the politics there starts spreading to everyone kneeling, and now you got a guy, Jonathan Isaac, being like, I just don't want to kneel, I don't mind if you do.

00:50:53.000 And they're mad at him because he won't bend the knee.

00:50:56.000 You see, I think, I think... And just keep in mind, everybody on ESPN, the worldwide leader in sports, is criticizing Jonathan Isaac.

00:51:07.000 And Lord behold, Drew Brees, the quarterback for the Saints, makes a comment basically defending the national anthem.

00:51:15.000 And he gets assassinated, his character does, by everybody on ESPN like he's some racist pig because the national anthem means something to him, means something to people in his family that were in the service.

00:51:27.000 And so these athletes are being bullied into kneeling and adopting these values.

00:51:33.000 We're actually, this Sunday, we've got a special episode.

00:51:36.000 We did a podcast with Ben Shapiro and Jonathan Isaac separately.

00:51:42.000 But, you know, he was saying that he doesn't think these people believe in the message.

00:51:47.000 That the players are just kind of, you know, they're told they have to do it and they're like, okay, whatever, I guess.

00:51:52.000 And, you know, many of them probably outright just don't like these values.

00:51:57.000 I think the reality is a lot of people are Christians.

00:51:59.000 I think a lot of people like families.

00:52:02.000 What worries me is, why aren't there more people like Isaac who are going to just very calmly and passionately say, look, I believe in my country.

00:52:10.000 No disrespect to those who protest.

00:52:11.000 I'm going to do my thing.

00:52:12.000 Why can't we at least have more players like that?

00:52:13.000 I imagine it's because the paychecks are so big.

00:52:16.000 Those guys, they make so much money.

00:52:18.000 I mean, how can you turn away from a $90 million contract?

00:52:21.000 $10 million contract over three years or four years or whatever they make.

00:52:25.000 What's an average contract in the NBA right now?

00:52:27.000 Probably 5-8 million dollars.

00:52:30.000 What about your lowest tier player?

00:52:31.000 Your average player for how many years?

00:52:33.000 You know, three to five years.

00:52:35.000 What about your lowest tier player?

00:52:37.000 Lowest tier player is probably making $800,000, $900,000.

00:52:41.000 But let's take the big money people out of it. 0.94

00:52:45.000 Just talking to Colin before the show, working in academia, and I talked about this today, about just corporate America in general.

00:52:54.000 If you want to move up in leadership at any major corporation, if you don't adopt the values of diversity, inclusion, and equity, if you don't hop on board with all the LGBT stuff, if you don't swallow it, you can't move up. 0.98

00:53:11.000 Or you get run out of academia.

00:53:15.000 It's the same principles that you see.

00:53:18.000 The pressure in the sports world is even more intense.

00:53:21.000 These guys have guaranteed contracts and have made generational wealth.

00:53:26.000 What if you're just a guy that works at Name the company, Disney or anywhere, that doesn't want to hop on board with these values, you get run out, you can't move up.

00:53:37.000 It's the same dynamic that's taking place in sports, in academia, I mean it's like this spiral of silence they go into where everyone else is doing this one signal and if you have areas that tend to be politically skewed in a certain direction like academia, A signal that might have started out with like, you know, oh I'm just putting my pronoun in my email signature or in my social media bio.

00:53:59.000 These soon, rather than just being a signal of like, oh I'm just inclusive, it then becomes the people who don't have these little things in their bios and their email signatures, that becomes a tell because once it gets so popular, Then the person who doesn't do it is the one that stands out, and now all of a sudden people can question them and, you know, what are you doing?

00:54:18.000 I'm interested in your experience.

00:54:20.000 You're an evolutionary biologist.

00:54:21.000 Like, with the, I guess you would call it the emergence or the mainstreamism of the transgender movement, or I don't even know if you'd call it a movement, but just this whole... Like, what's it like in the science community when you're discussing biology?

00:54:33.000 And if you've got a story, what were you going to say?

00:54:35.000 Well, no, I just want to...

00:54:36.000 kind of pull back a little bit what you were saying and merge these kind of these conversations you know we're talking about the feminization of sports we've got someone you're a biologist yeah well so let's let's talk about what's happening with you know you can define a woman he's about well exactly exactly so you know i yeah i think we'll get to that in a second but let's let's kind of merge that as a biologist witnessing what's happening in sports with the ncaa and all that stuff what's what's your take and what what do you have to say for you know what's happening like what's your view on it Yeah, I mean it's the same dynamic, and it just requires people to feel like they're comfortable enough by seeing other people who are speaking up and not getting cancelled to have them speak up.

00:55:14.000 I mean, when I was in academia, there was no one talking about the stuff I was talking about.

00:55:18.000 I was one of the first people to be like, Actually, there are only two sexes. 0.60

00:55:21.000 It's not a spectrum.

00:55:22.000 It's not a social construct.

00:55:24.000 And, I mean, that was, all the arrows hit me at once.

00:55:28.000 And that's a signal to everyone to, you know, who thinks the same way I do, that they're not going to say anything because they see what, they saw what happens when the one vocal person comes up.

00:55:36.000 And so it's that chilling effect, and I think that's playing out in sports, is that chilling effect when someone gets hammered in the media for their reasonable opinion that just sends a signal to everyone else like oh this is a third rail i'm not gonna i'm not even gonna go there what what is this right we all of a sudden we have academia terrified we have one of the most lucrative and high-paying industries major major sports and they are terrified of this ideology

00:56:07.000 Well, because they know they can get cancelled.

00:56:10.000 They know that they can get run out of their jobs and have to go independent the way that Colin has.

00:56:17.000 I do want to, and I don't want to speak for Tim, but I do think what Tim was asking you, quite honestly, was like, We had a man, Leah Thomas, William Thomas, swimming against women in the Ivy League.

00:56:32.000 That's what he's like as a biologist.

00:56:35.000 What is your take?

00:56:36.000 This is crazy to us.

00:56:40.000 It's completely insane.

00:56:41.000 I mean, so the thing that's underpinning all of it is this, like, this gender ideology that is saying that what a man or a woman or a boy and a girl is has nothing to do with your biology or your reproductive organs or anything.

00:56:54.000 It has everything to do with just your internal sense of who you are or your identification with social roles and stereotypes of, like, masculinity or femininity.

00:57:03.000 That's literally what they think is a man or a woman, which really goes against what we've been hearing feminists say for so long, that You know, a woman can behave any way they want to and still be a woman. 1.00

00:57:13.000 You can be a masculine woman. 0.99

00:57:14.000 You can be a feminine woman. 1.00

00:57:15.000 You can be a feminine man. 0.94

00:57:17.000 You can be a masculine man.

00:57:19.000 But you're fundamentally defined as a man or woman by your reproductive anatomy.

00:57:24.000 Somehow this ideology has just taken root.

00:57:27.000 I think a lot of it's because you see these big organizations like the ACLU, like the Human Rights Campaign, They had all this funding, billions of dollars, going into something like getting gay marriage passed, which I personally think is a good thing to get passed.

00:57:41.000 But once they get that big victory, what do they do next?

00:57:45.000 They're set up in a situation where they need to find something else to put all this money into.

00:57:50.000 They have all these donors.

00:57:51.000 They're not just going to turn their lights off, shutter the windows, and say, like, well, we won.

00:57:55.000 Time to go home.

00:57:56.000 There's no more big dragons to slay.

00:57:59.000 And if you look at where the funding went in these organizations, it used to be all going into gay marriage, and then, what was it, 2014 or 15 when it became federally legal?

00:58:08.000 14, I think.

00:58:09.000 Yeah, then you see the narrative switch to trans everything, and it's this gender ideology, and it's this built-in apparatus with billions of dollars behind it that is just shunting this money into 0.5% of the population, and we have no response to it. 0.59

00:58:24.000 We haven't built up The organization's to respond to this thing now that isn't the next I used to work around I used to work in nonprofits.

00:58:31.000 I did fundraising and This was one of the things I witnessed a good nonprofit should put itself out of business Yeah, if you say hey, we got it.

00:58:40.000 We got an issue with there's not enough panda bears Well, you know maybe in 20-30 years all of a sudden panda bears are no longer endangered anymore What does the nonprofit do?

00:58:50.000 Waves goodbye to everybody and says, mission accomplished.

00:58:53.000 This was the goal.

00:58:54.000 We saved the pandemic.

00:58:56.000 What these organizations will do is they'll say, well, it was never about the pandas.

00:59:00.000 What about the kangaroo?

00:59:02.000 What about this new songbird?

00:59:03.000 They don't want to cease to exist.

00:59:05.000 They like the power they've accrued.

00:59:08.000 A transition.

00:59:09.000 Well, and they have people on their... They're paying people.

00:59:11.000 They have paychecks.

00:59:12.000 They have a... You know, they have a... Lydia got much better.

00:59:14.000 They have employees.

00:59:16.000 Exactly.

00:59:17.000 I think Greenpeace is a good example of this.

00:59:19.000 I briefly worked for Greenpeace.

00:59:21.000 And the one thing I didn't understand, and I started looking at... I think... What's the... Lydia, do you know the guy, the Greenpeace guy's name?

00:59:29.000 Doctor... Is it... It's not... I think it's Patrick Moore, right?

00:59:31.000 Yeah.

00:59:32.000 We're gonna have him, I think.

00:59:33.000 Yeah.

00:59:34.000 Maybe.

00:59:35.000 I know there's also a Paul Watson who left, and he's the Sea Shepherds guy.

00:59:38.000 But I believe Patrick Moore's the name.

00:59:40.000 Can you guys check?

00:59:41.000 Because he's pro-nuclear power.

00:59:43.000 And so he's been very vocal on similar issues as us.

00:59:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:46.000 Patrick Moore.

00:59:46.000 Yeah, Patrick Moore.

00:59:47.000 So Greenpeace, it starts because they're opposing nuclear testing.

00:59:51.000 I respect that.

00:59:52.000 I don't like the nuclear bombs being tested and the devastating effects.

00:59:55.000 It blanketed this planet with radioactive particles that interferes with scientific instruments.

01:00:01.000 So there's, yeah, it's not good that everybody on the planet was blowing things up to test things.

01:00:05.000 And so they oppose it.

01:00:06.000 And they would do things like send out boats into the area so they couldn't conduct tests, and I'm like, I dig it.

01:00:11.000 Now they're saying nuclear energy is bad.

01:00:13.000 Why?

01:00:13.000 In my personal opinion, because nuclear is a scary word.

01:00:17.000 It allows them to keep the company going and make money.

01:00:20.000 And there's reasons why people like Patrick Moore leave, because they're like, you're off mission.

01:00:24.000 This is not what we're supposed to be doing.

01:00:26.000 These non-profits, I agree, I think it's a really important point that often doesn't get brought up.

01:00:31.000 I remember, I was working for a non-profit that did fundraising, and one of the organizations they were fundraising on behalf of was the Human Rights Campaign, the HRC.

01:00:40.000 Apparently, and I could be getting this wrong, I was not high up or anything, but there was a conversation where there were a few organizations that were rejecting some bill because it granted certain rights to LGB people, but not T people.

01:00:55.000 And so the human rights campaign was like, we're going to go for this because it's a win.

01:00:58.000 These other organizations were like, no, you know, you shouldn't.

01:01:01.000 So there was a point where they were willing to outright be like, we will advocate for laws that

01:01:06.000 do not protect this group of people. I wonder now if it's just part of the process that once you get

01:01:12.000 certain laws passed, now you can move on to your next mission and make sure the money keeps flowing.

01:01:18.000 You need more scare tactics.

01:01:19.000 I think you hit the nail on the head with a large portion of what we're seeing.

01:01:24.000 Activism can't stop.

01:01:25.000 There's money to be made.

01:01:26.000 This is why we're focusing on microaggressions now.

01:01:29.000 We've ran out of macro ones.

01:01:31.000 We skipped the Deci-aggressions and we're going to be moving on to Pico-aggressions next, I think. 0.99

01:01:31.000 Yep. 0.99

01:01:37.000 We've run out of... We have a very short supply of racism.

01:01:43.000 And so now racism is, oh, you didn't call me by my proper name.

01:01:49.000 I think we just had a baseball player, a baseball first base coach, I think just yesterday for the San Francisco Giants.

01:01:57.000 He got called an MF. 0.99

01:01:59.000 I can say motherfucker probably on this show. 0.99

01:02:03.000 We do try to be family friendly but we're not gonna cry about it. 0.99

01:02:06.000 He got called an MF and he said that when he when the guy said it it reeked of racism.

01:02:13.000 What?

01:02:13.000 I didn't know.

01:02:14.000 Literally.

01:02:16.000 Because there's such a short supply of racism we've had to expand what is racism and so now if in the heat of a sports battle if you call someone an MF and they happen to be black and you happen to be white That reeks of racism.

01:02:32.000 I want to, if I can, and I think I can do this on this show, not because I think you guys are going to agree with me, but I just want to say it because Colin said something interesting, and Tim, you push me back in line if I'm taking the conversation somewhere you don't want it to go, but Tim said, or Colin said that you agreed with same-sex marriage and thought it was a good thing.

01:02:54.000 I have to sit here and say, I disagree with that, and not because I have a problem with the LGBT crowd, the gay crowd, or whatever.

01:03:03.000 I think we've moved in the society where we think everything is for everybody.

01:03:09.000 And I don't think everything is for everybody.

01:03:13.000 Tim's genes they're not for me so I should not try to squeeze into them and I don't think there was a long period in my life where I was very irresponsible in my dating and sexual life and I was never in the right mindset to be married.

01:03:32.000 Marriage wasn't for me.

01:03:34.000 I had no control and so I think we've moved to where we just we want to make everything for everybody and so I think my sexual promiscuity, no different than same-sex attraction, it makes me not an ideal candidate for marriage. 0.86

01:03:54.000 I agree with the majority of the sentiment, that not everything is for everybody, and absolutely.

01:03:58.000 It seems like, you know, it's like the sarcasta ball in South Park, where they make all the kids wear the goofy things and the football becomes a balloon.

01:04:05.000 When you try to make everything equal, then, you know, what do you do?

01:04:08.000 You gotta cut off the tall grass.

01:04:10.000 However, when I look at the issue of gay marriage, I agree with Colin.

01:04:14.000 I think it was... This is an interesting conversation.

01:04:16.000 I think it's good.

01:04:18.000 I think it's good in the sense that LGBTQIA plus people should not be discriminated against based on those characteristics.

01:04:26.000 There's questions in what that means when it manifests.

01:04:29.000 Like, who gets access to specific spaces?

01:04:32.000 Like, women's only spaces? 1.00

01:04:33.000 Does it mean female or otherwise?

01:04:34.000 I think that's part of the conversation we have.

01:04:36.000 But I mean, like, you can't throw someone out of your business for specific reasons, you know?

01:04:40.000 We want to be public accommodations.

01:04:43.000 Should be equal to all, and we should have... This is my view, it's the more liberal view I suppose, but I think that if you're a part of society, you're paying taxes, and we're all funding this machine, then you should be able to accommodate someone, and not arbitrarily be like, I don't like the way you look, so get out!

01:04:59.000 But within reason, you can still do that anyway.

01:05:03.000 You can give someone no reason and say, oh, you said a naughty word, and so I have the right to refuse service to anybody.

01:05:08.000 It becomes increasingly impossible to actually maintain control of people's views and opinions.

01:05:14.000 But anyway, just to the point of gay marriage. 0.63

01:05:18.000 The question I had when Prop 8 was happening, I think it was in California, was, isn't marriage specifically an Abrahamic institution, which is rooted in going to the church and saying vows before God?

01:05:31.000 If that's the case, Then I don't believe it is appropriate for the state to mandate what the church does.

01:05:37.000 However, if the state recognizes marriage as some legal contract with legal ramifications, those must be granted to anybody.

01:05:47.000 Now, there are certainly questions about what the writers brought up, polygamy and things like that.

01:05:51.000 And I'm like, well, there was polygamy a long time ago.

01:05:53.000 It's not here now.

01:05:54.000 We're just talking about cultural shifts and cultural changes.

01:05:57.000 But if there are two people who love each other, And this is the current standard we're in.

01:06:01.000 I think, you know, LGBTQIA+, they should be able to get married and live together and they should have all of the tax rights and legal rights.

01:06:09.000 I don't want to hear another story about, you know, two men who love each other and one guy gets sick and his husband isn't allowed to go in and see him as he's dying.

01:06:18.000 That's a horrifying story.

01:06:20.000 Because it's... A man and his brother, you know, his brother gets cancer.

01:06:24.000 He can go in and see him.

01:06:25.000 These two guys spend their whole lives together.

01:06:26.000 They love each other.

01:06:28.000 Look, I don't think that's any of my business.

01:06:30.000 One of the things that arises that's changing everything is going after kids, right?

01:06:37.000 I'm not saying, you know, I think if there's a teacher in a school who's gay and a kid walks up and sees a picture and says, who's that?

01:06:43.000 The teacher could say, that's my husband.

01:06:46.000 And the kid can say, but you're a boy, how do you have a husband?

01:06:49.000 The teacher should then say, well, maybe you'll learn more about this when you're older.

01:06:53.000 Ask your parents.

01:06:54.000 It's really that simple.

01:06:55.000 When they start saying they want mandatory education on very specific things, where some of these books have been particularly graphic, that's when I'm like, yo, We are not talking about civil rights for an individual.

01:07:06.000 We are not talking about me saying, I want to make sure that the people I know and care about are able to be there for their loved ones.

01:07:11.000 We're talking about going to kids and explaining in detail, five to nine year olds, serious adult things that it should not be up to them.

01:07:19.000 It should be up to the parents.

01:07:20.000 And sometimes there might be parents who are like, my six year old is ready.

01:07:23.000 Okay.

01:07:23.000 Well, I personally disagree.

01:07:24.000 I think six is a bit too young.

01:07:25.000 You should maybe wait until they're getting closer to puberty, but I'm not the parent.

01:07:28.000 So there are still limitations to where we as a society have to decide what is abuse and what isn't.

01:07:34.000 Talking about marriage a little bit, I think you make a really good point.

01:07:36.000 You've got to define what it is and what it means.

01:07:38.000 I think that in the church, it's a union under God, essentially.

01:07:42.000 And I'm not 100% familiar, but it's really about almost like a magical union with your soul.

01:07:49.000 But then when you talk about marriage in the state, it's just a business contract.

01:07:52.000 And the way I look at it in this current state is I'm treating it like a business contract.

01:07:56.000 I want to give my wife money, my girlfriend, and I don't want to get taxed on it.

01:07:59.000 So I'm going to marry her so I can give her a bunch of money. 0.93

01:08:02.000 And stop.

01:08:03.000 My love for her is irrelevant.

01:08:05.000 It's just a business deal.

01:08:08.000 But I'm interested how you guys... And I hope that... I think that's maybe the conversation people in society should have when discussing who should be able to do what when it pertains to marriage and what it actually means.

01:08:18.000 And people sometimes will say like, well, civil union then.

01:08:21.000 You get all the digital rights without calling it marriage.

01:08:25.000 But then they're like, no, I want to label it the same.

01:08:27.000 I want to be treated the same.

01:08:28.000 Then you start getting into identity politics.

01:08:29.000 I think what Jason was saying earlier and what you were getting at was the sort of slippery slope you get into where like you have a movement like the LGBTQ plus IA2 whatever and the reason that number that those letters keep expanding is because they've defined themselves by we're the most inclusive group ever.

01:08:48.000 We're gonna just accept anyone who's atypical, any axis you can imagine.

01:08:55.000 And that leads to them not being able to just really push out the fringes of the people that really shouldn't be part

01:08:55.000 Boom.

01:09:03.000 You know, like, there are some organizations that will want to add the P, which is the pedophile, to like these types

01:09:03.000 of their groups.

01:09:09.000 of groups.

01:09:09.000 Boom. The P is silent.

01:09:10.000 And they can't police their borders because they've just, we're so inclusive, it's an orientation.

01:09:15.000 And by that, like, they need to be able to police their borders to some degree because some people are just bad

01:09:22.000 people.

01:09:23.000 Some people have certain ideologies as well.

01:09:25.000 He could mean police.

01:09:27.000 Have you guys talked about the jeweler with the anti-woke app?

01:09:32.000 I don't know, because I wasn't here for a little bit.

01:09:33.000 No, we didn't talk about that.

01:09:34.000 Let's pull the story.

01:09:34.000 We got the story from TimCast.com.

01:09:36.000 Jeweler launches anti-woke ad asking, what is a woman?

01:09:40.000 What is a woman? 1.00

01:09:42.000 This is a... What's fascinating, I don't think this story is inherently newsworthy, but it is interesting that people are starting to push back and just begin to assert that women exist or that women are adult human females.

01:09:58.000 The reason I find this story interesting enough to elaborate on is that it's a jeweler doing it.

01:10:03.000 And why is a jeweler making an anti-woke ad?

01:10:06.000 Well, jewelry, there's a very traditional gender norm in the purchase and delivery, gifting of jewelry. 1.00

01:10:15.000 It is very often, typically, a male will buy shiny rocks to present to a female as an effort to woo said female.

01:10:24.000 And then he's like, hold this for me, because I don't want to carry it around.

01:10:27.000 Well, I do think it's fascinating when you break it down to its root.

01:10:30.000 It's like, you know, I'm going to reference Chicken City.

01:10:34.000 When you watch the rooster do the dance around the hens, he like pulls out one wing and then shuffles around them.

01:10:40.000 Yeah, he's trying to tell the girl like, look at me, I'm hot stuff.

01:10:43.000 Males in our society buy shiny rocks and present those shiny rocks to women like, look at me, look what I got. 1.00

01:10:50.000 You know, I can afford this for you.

01:10:52.000 And it's courtship.

01:10:54.000 If you get rid of gender roles, you're going to eliminate, to a great degree, jewelry.

01:10:58.000 People are doing tattoo rings instead.

01:11:01.000 They're moving away from this.

01:11:03.000 So I guess to break it down, what we're going to see is industry dependent upon gender roles are going to start becoming resistant and pushing back because they want to exist.

01:11:14.000 Much like you mentioned in a previous segment, nonprofits have to keep moving forward with new groups to fight for.

01:11:22.000 Industries that rely like let's let's talk about you know honeymoon escapes where they're they have rooms Designed for a male and a female specifically. 1.00

01:11:30.000 I mean they're gonna be like, what do we do in this new environment?

01:11:33.000 Well, I think eventually you're gonna see companies just come out and be like no No, we oppose this because they don't want to cease to function I will admit, I think everyone loves gems.

01:11:42.000 I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I think maybe it comes from that men hunted, and if they had a ring on their finger and they got caught on a branch, it would rip their finger off.

01:11:50.000 So they wanted as little encumbrance as possible, so they would store the gems with the wife.

01:11:55.000 I don't know if that's really the history of why the woman had them and the man didn't.

01:11:58.000 They're going anti-woke.

01:11:59.000 like ancient kings and pharaohs and they were all adorned with gems and jewels and things like that

01:12:03.000 so they may have a market with both i mean the age of hunting is essentially hunting for necessity

01:12:08.000 has has dipped not that it's over but we seem to be in a wall they're going anti-woke that's that

01:12:14.000 one particular driller i tend to agree with ian because what's going to happen these businesses

01:12:21.000 are going to adjust to the new normal and so like This is particularly acute in the black community.

01:12:28.000 Our culture is so matriarchal. 1.00

01:12:31.000 Women are at the head of the black community. 0.56

01:12:34.000 I somewhat reluctantly have to admit that.

01:12:39.000 And so what Jewelers are going to start doing is they're going to create the custom of women buying gold chains for their men. 0.96

01:12:48.000 They're just going to adjust their business model.

01:12:50.000 Again, it's no different for me.

01:12:52.000 I'm old.

01:12:52.000 I'm 54.

01:12:53.000 My dad always drove a Cadillac.

01:12:56.000 I now watch sports events And the Cadillac commercials now all feature black women, mostly. 0.99

01:13:03.000 They used to market it to black men.

01:13:06.000 That was Cadillac.

01:13:07.000 That was the joke.

01:13:08.000 That was the stereotype.

01:13:09.000 Black men drove Cadillacs.

01:13:11.000 Cadillac has adjusted.

01:13:13.000 Black women now drive Cadillacs. 1.00

01:13:14.000 Is it working?

01:13:15.000 Is the marketing working?

01:13:16.000 I don't know.

01:13:17.000 I just know what I see.

01:13:22.000 When you watch car commercials, and there are black people in it, they're catering towards the black woman, primarily. 0.98

01:13:29.000 One thing a lot of people notice is that commercials will have mixed-race families very often.

01:13:34.000 Have you noticed this?

01:13:35.000 Well, of course, there are more... What's the right word?

01:13:35.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:40.000 Same-race marriages.

01:13:41.000 Well, no, no, no.

01:13:42.000 I mean, yes.

01:13:43.000 But I mean, the people who complain about it tend to be more identitarian.

01:13:48.000 So they're like, why are so many commercials now pushing this?

01:13:51.000 And I'm like, whoa, slow down there, buddy.

01:13:53.000 They're not pushing it.

01:13:54.000 They're trying to make money off everybody.

01:13:56.000 And my opinion is that they'll end up making money off nobody.

01:14:00.000 So the point of the commercial is, you mentioned, you know, black women with Cadillacs.

01:14:00.000 Right?

01:14:06.000 I think it's fine if you want to market to whoever you want to market to, right?

01:14:09.000 I was watching TV and a dating app commercial came on featuring interracial gay couples.

01:14:16.000 And I said, you know, look, I have no issue with interracial gay couples.

01:14:20.000 Like, by all means, have your life.

01:14:21.000 Live your life.

01:14:22.000 I'm just curious as to how much money they spent and how much money they think they'll make off of a market that is probably small.

01:14:28.000 I'm not saying they shouldn't do it.

01:14:29.000 They can do what they want.

01:14:30.000 But it's interesting that the left position would be like, it's good they're doing this ad because of diversity, but are they advertising to a group of people that don't actually want their product, or there just aren't that many, there's not that many people to buy the product when you're trying to relate to them.

01:14:44.000 So, in the instance of marketing Cadillacs to black women, I'm wondering if a culture exists that has black women saying they want this vehicle, so when they see a commercial they feel represented by it, or would they just be like, I don't want that car. 0.99

01:14:58.000 Well, I wonder if they're seeing their representation as, you know, an interracial gay couple.

01:15:03.000 That might not be who they're actually targeting.

01:15:04.000 That might be who they're portraying in the commercial, but they might just be targeting the people who would just care about that sort of identitarian thing generally.

01:15:12.000 But I understand.

01:15:14.000 However, and maybe it's just my assumption, I would imagine that, you know, a young white woman might be like, oh, that's so nice. 0.78

01:15:21.000 I'm gonna use Bumble.

01:15:22.000 Because, I mean, look, you're saying, here's a product for you, and the you is someone that is not part of that demographic.

01:15:30.000 So if a commercial said, you know, our app is for everyone, male, female, LGBTQ, it didn't say that.

01:15:36.000 It just said, find love, and it showed, you know, an interracial gay couple.

01:15:39.000 And so, I wonder if these companies will wokify their marketing to the point where Regular people will not feel represented by it.

01:15:48.000 So, in the point of the interracial couples in commercials, me personally, well, I don't care, because I come from a family like that, so I'm kind of like, yeah, whatever. 0.86

01:15:56.000 But, if you're selling Kelloggs, they used to have commercials where it'd be a black family and they're giving the cereal to the children, or it'd be a white family.

01:16:03.000 Now it's mixed, and I wonder if white families or black families see themselves in those families, or just feel like, that's not me.

01:16:10.000 I would think psychologically, if you have a successful solvent company in your marketing, you would allocate 10% of your marketing funds to off-market people.

01:16:18.000 People that aren't part of your demographic.

01:16:20.000 You'd probably do experimental campaigns here and there, but only if you're already successful.

01:16:24.000 I can't imagine a company that is just starting up would try to market to people that they didn't think they were going to try and sell to.

01:16:30.000 I had a question with you about gems really quick, Colin.

01:16:34.000 Biologically, is there any evidence that men or women are more drawn to shiny objects?

01:16:38.000 You know, I don't know specifically in humans, but there are a lot of species, a lot of insects as well, that do these, like, gift-giving.

01:16:47.000 They call them nuptial gifts.

01:16:49.000 And it's kind of funny because sometimes they're shiny, sometimes there's like a built-in bit of nutrition to it, but you also see like this cheating behavior where some male fly will try to give this gift that looks like it's containing all this nutrition, but it's actually hollow.

01:17:04.000 It's sort of like the cubic zirconia version of like an animal trying to give, you know, to dupe this female into like mating with them by giving them a A hollow gift.

01:17:16.000 It's usually men giving the gift to the woman. 0.66

01:17:17.000 It's almost exclusively the males giving it.

01:17:19.000 And it's usually because they're seeking a mate to have a child with.

01:17:22.000 Yeah, they woo them over. 0.89

01:17:23.000 So I imagine the gem industry is probably similar to that then.

01:17:26.000 I want to add a point to Tim's deal or the conversation in terms of America, what these companies think they're doing and perhaps are doing.

01:17:36.000 It's just like you talked about with the Democratic Party and their immigration policy.

01:17:39.000 They're playing a long game.

01:17:41.000 And so the primary values, freedom and individualism, used to define America.

01:17:50.000 That's what everybody wanted.

01:17:51.000 I want freedom and I want to be individual and do what I want to do.

01:17:55.000 They're trying to make diversity and inclusion The primary thing.

01:18:02.000 And so they're appealing to people that believe in inclusion and who define their identity around how inclusive am I?

01:18:11.000 Oh, I'm inclusive of trans folk, trans people.

01:18:15.000 I'm inclusive of everything.

01:18:16.000 And so that's what they're marketing.

01:18:19.000 It's almost like marketing patriotism.

01:18:23.000 And like the NFL and sports have sold themselves, this is the most patriotic thing you can do.

01:18:29.000 Come to our game, stand for the national anthem, blah blah blah.

01:18:32.000 Their inclusion now is like patriotism.

01:18:36.000 And so these commercials are trying to hit the theme of inclusion because they think they've socially engineered Americans to believe there's nothing more American than being inclusive and tolerant and worshiping I wonder if there's a big ask element.

01:18:53.000 I like inclusivity.

01:18:54.000 I like diversity.

01:18:56.000 I don't like equity.

01:18:57.000 I think equity is a lie and a manipulation.

01:18:59.000 But inclusivity, it's like, you know, if I'm playing a game of dodgeball and I see a kid who's out, you know, not hanging out with anybody, I'm the kind of person who's like, hey, dude, come over and hang out with us.

01:19:07.000 Or I'm at a skate park and I see a kid who's by himself and be like, yo, you want to come over and play a game of skate?

01:19:11.000 Like, we're all chilling.

01:19:12.000 And what's your name?

01:19:13.000 Try and include people.

01:19:14.000 And I like building community.

01:19:16.000 I like diversity in the truest sense.

01:19:18.000 I like diversity of worldview and opinion.

01:19:21.000 And the original concept of diversity was that someone who comes from a different community will have a different perspective than you.

01:19:27.000 Not always, but sometimes.

01:19:29.000 And so you can learn a lot from people that you don't know.

01:19:32.000 Don't assume that other people can't teach you something.

01:19:35.000 The problem with inclusivity is too much of it is a bad thing.

01:19:38.000 I was kind of an outsider growing up, and I thought, you know, if I get popular, I'm never going to let someone be an outsider.

01:19:44.000 I'm going to bring everyone in.

01:19:46.000 And I tried that, and it became chaos.

01:19:48.000 And you know it also as a chef.

01:19:49.000 I'm an amateur chef.

01:19:51.000 But if you add every ingredient, it's a mess.

01:19:53.000 You have to stop.

01:19:54.000 You have to add specific ingredients.

01:19:56.000 You use discretion when you're being inclusive.

01:19:58.000 You have to.

01:20:00.000 And that is a hard thing for people to accept because it does mean that people get left out.

01:20:04.000 And that's a sad thing, but it may be stronger.

01:20:07.000 In the long run?

01:20:08.000 The issue now is that these three words, diversity, inclusivity, equity, have all just been perverted. 0.99

01:20:13.000 Well, for one, equity is garbage. 0.98

01:20:16.000 Equality, I like. 0.98

01:20:17.000 Equity is some kind of equality of outcome instead of opportunity.

01:20:22.000 But inclusivity was supposed to be about compassion.

01:20:24.000 Now it's about homogenization.

01:20:26.000 And diversity was supposed to be about different worldviews, and now it's just about homogenization.

01:20:31.000 So you're not getting any of these things in this woke religion.

01:20:35.000 And too much inclusivity, like you were saying earlier, is you get the fringes that come in and then end up disrupting the very group you're trying to build.

01:20:40.000 Yeah, and if you look at what people mean when they say, like, we're creating an inclusive environment, just to turn this on its head, it basically means the opposite in many contexts.

01:20:50.000 Like, when I was first, you know, when I was still in academia and I wrote a paper for the Wall Street Journal called The Dangerous Denial of Sex, and it was about why sex is real and why it matters, I was told that I was not making the environment at Penn State inclusive.

01:21:04.000 And that therefore means I needed to go because I wasn't making an inclusive environment.

01:21:11.000 So I needed to be excluded in order to make an environment inclusive.

01:21:15.000 So it can mean just the opposite.

01:21:18.000 I want to do a semi-hard segue to this story from Fox News.

01:21:21.000 Brooklyn subway shooting.

01:21:23.000 Person of interest Frank James posted racist rants to YouTube for years.

01:21:26.000 I do believe he got arrested.

01:21:28.000 And what I've heard, and I think, you know, I'll throw to Jason to correct me if I'm wrong,

01:21:32.000 is that this guy was posting, like, black nationalist stuff?

01:21:35.000 Yes.

01:21:37.000 He's been radicalized by corporate media. 0.99

01:21:41.000 We've been sending black people the message through corporate media that you're a victim, you're oppressed, white people are the devil, and this guy bought what the media was selling. 0.96

01:21:55.000 He's from Milwaukee or Waukesha, same area as the Daryl Brooks guy who was radicalized. 0.99

01:22:04.000 No one should be surprised that we're creating these types of monsters, because the media is basically telling you're crazy if you don't think like this guy.

01:22:16.000 I got a story for you, Jason.

01:22:17.000 Some people watch the show and have seen it, may have heard me, but I assume most people haven't heard the story.

01:22:22.000 I know, sometimes I tell stories several times, but there's different guests, so I apologize for it.

01:22:26.000 I knew a guy once, and I'll try and simplify the story for the sake of their privacy.

01:22:31.000 There was a black dude, and there was a white dude, and the black dude mentioned he was gonna, you know, go run to the store real quick.

01:22:37.000 And the white dude said, hey, when you're out, can you mind, you know, when you're by the store, can you grab me a cheeseburger from, you know, the McDonald's?

01:22:43.000 And the guy said, excuse me?

01:22:45.000 And he was like, would you mind grabbing me a cheeseburger when you're over there by the McDonald's?

01:22:50.000 And they started yelling at him, like, what do you think, who do you think I am?

01:22:54.000 Later, I asked the guy, like, whoa, I saw you yelling, like, what happened?

01:22:56.000 And he's like, the dude, he thinks I'm his boy.

01:22:59.000 Like, I'm gonna go and get him food?

01:23:01.000 And then I was like, if you were going to the store, I figured he'd just ask you to pick him up a burger.

01:23:07.000 And so that was, to me, I was kind of like, yo, I was like, I think you might be looking too much into this.

01:23:11.000 And he said, you don't understand, man.

01:23:12.000 You don't understand what they think about people like me.

01:23:15.000 And then I was like, when I was growing up, It didn't matter what your race were, we'd be like, oh hey, you're out?

01:23:20.000 Hey, get me a hot dog and fries, would you do it?

01:23:22.000 We'd be like, sure.

01:23:23.000 But I think what happens is you have people constantly saying, you know, it's like Ibram X. Kendi said, it's not a question of did racism happen, it's how did racism manifest.

01:23:32.000 You'll have people who think it's everywhere and look for it, and I'm like, maybe he just wanted you to be his friend and, you know, do him a favor.

01:23:40.000 Maybe he wasn't being racist.

01:23:42.000 But if people internalize that and they constantly look for it, they might get offended where they shouldn't.

01:23:47.000 This goes all the way back to the feminization of America. 0.65

01:23:52.000 Everything's about feelings.

01:23:54.000 Women are driven by feelings more so than men. 1.00

01:23:59.000 We've turned this entire society about, I feel like a woman even though I have a penis. 0.98

01:24:05.000 I feel like something was racist even though that coach called A white guy MF'er and that's his language of choice. 0.98

01:24:15.000 Even though that same guy that asked to get a cheeseburger asked his white friend to get him a cheeseburger the week before.

01:24:20.000 But if I feel like it was racist...

01:24:24.000 It is.

01:24:25.000 And we all seem to accept that standard.

01:24:28.000 I don't, personally.

01:24:32.000 Growing up, I had friends who would use racial slurs for all of us.

01:24:37.000 And he wasn't racist.

01:24:41.000 It was just edgy, young, punk humor.

01:24:43.000 We watched Family Guy in South Park.

01:24:45.000 So he'd go around and we'd all laugh at it.

01:24:47.000 He would, you know, call us names.

01:24:49.000 I'm like, I don't care.

01:24:50.000 Like, because he's my friend and I know he's just trying to, you know, take jabs at me and it's funny.

01:24:56.000 And he would call himself names too.

01:24:57.000 But today's day and age, it's like, you can't belittle these ideas.

01:25:02.000 When I look back on what it was like being a kid, having a friend who would call people names, it felt like he was taking the power away from it.

01:25:09.000 He would say something that was ultimately meaningless to all of us and was meant in jest and kind of playfully, so we never got mad about it.

01:25:16.000 Nowadays, they've empowered it so much that even asking someone to grab you a burger is like the epitome of racism, that it's everywhere, always.

01:25:26.000 And it's not the right, it's the woke who claim they're anti-racist, who are funneling as much oxygen into those fires of racism as possible.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, I wonder, is it biological?

01:25:36.000 Like, is it in the diet, in the plastics, in the water, the microplastics, and the... It's a big leap.

01:25:41.000 All these chemicals, like, that are making people so tense and edgy that they can't, like, not get angry when they hear these things?

01:25:49.000 I think a lot of it's just sort of ideology going around.

01:25:52.000 It's making people mentally ill in a way that they're just... Social media, man.

01:25:56.000 Yeah, a lot of it's social media.

01:25:58.000 A lot of it's clicks.

01:26:00.000 A lot of people are staying at home.

01:26:01.000 They just don't have their friends circled.

01:26:02.000 I mean, this is the stuff like Jonathan Haidt and Greg Lukianoff wrote about in Coddling the American Mind.

01:26:08.000 Yeah, we're seeing all-time highs of sort of mental health issues, depression, sexlessness among young kids, not young kids, well, college-aged people.

01:26:20.000 I'd hope sexlessness in young kids.

01:26:22.000 Yeah, I mean, there's this skyrocketing rates of mental health issues, and I think we're seeing sort of a manifestation of a lot of that.

01:26:29.000 We have this focus on these microaggressions.

01:26:33.000 So when I was in graduate school, I remember hearing from this other grad student who was a black woman, and she was talking about how she had this insane interaction that was very racist.

01:26:43.000 She played Ultimate Frisbee.

01:26:45.000 And we were like, well, what was this incident?

01:26:47.000 And she had just started playing Ultimate Frisbee in this new league, but she was very athletic.

01:26:52.000 And so she did really well on the first time that she played Ultimate Frisbee.

01:26:55.000 And so some friends after the game came up to her.

01:26:58.000 They had never met her before.

01:26:59.000 And they said, man, you're so good at Ultimate Frisbee.

01:27:02.000 Have you ever played before?

01:27:03.000 And she's like, no.

01:27:04.000 And then someone else said, well, that's just good genes.

01:27:07.000 And she took that as being an instance of You know, this microaggression because, oh, I'm black, I have these good genes.

01:27:14.000 And I heard this story, I remember thinking, you know, the first instinct was, have you ever played before?

01:27:19.000 Have you practiced?

01:27:20.000 Is that why you're so good?

01:27:21.000 And she said, no.

01:27:23.000 And then so, well, what's the other alternative?

01:27:25.000 You just have a predisposition.

01:27:27.000 You're athletic.

01:27:28.000 You're a natural.

01:27:29.000 Nature versus nurture.

01:27:30.000 And so she dismissed the nurture part, the practice, because she had never practiced before.

01:27:35.000 And then because the next available option was you're a natural athlete, that was racism.

01:27:42.000 And I just remember thinking, this is completely insane.

01:27:44.000 Black people, Frank James, we have been conditioned to believe the highest level of our existence is being a victim. 0.95

01:27:54.000 and so we've looked that that's how you prove your black i'm a victim 0.56

01:27:59.000 and so for that woman to prove her blackness she's on a college campus i would imagine that she was a 1.00

01:28:04.000 grad student grad student on a college campus

01:28:07.000 She's lived a very privileged life. 0.60

01:28:09.000 There's probably black people that tease her. 1.00

01:28:11.000 She talks too good of English. 0.90

01:28:12.000 She's too smart. 0.96

01:28:13.000 Blah blah blah. 0.89

01:28:14.000 And so her way of expressing her blackness... Boy, you wouldn't believe the racist shit I went through. 1.00

01:28:21.000 Someone at Ultimate Frisbee said I was a natural. 1.00

01:28:24.000 Boom. 0.88

01:28:25.000 That's how she proved she's black. 1.00

01:28:26.000 You know what else is crazy? 0.97

01:28:29.000 I experienced racism in my life.

01:28:30.000 In fact, we had a guest on the show.

01:28:32.000 I don't want to bring up his name.

01:28:33.000 Let him keep his peace for the time being.

01:28:35.000 And when I said, I understand your worries about racism, you know, my family dealt with some of this stuff.

01:28:42.000 He said, no, you didn't.

01:28:42.000 You're lying.

01:28:42.000 You're a white boy.

01:28:43.000 And I'm like, okay, so like, if I agree with you now I'm wrong?

01:28:47.000 I don't think, I think a lot of it is just power.

01:28:50.000 It is this fascistic ethos of there is no truth but power.

01:28:54.000 This guy's clearly not on my side.

01:28:56.000 He doesn't like what I have to say.

01:28:57.000 So when I reach out and say, I understand that because I've experienced similar, it's denial and rejection.

01:29:03.000 No, you are wrong.

01:29:04.000 It couldn't have happened to you.

01:29:06.000 And I'm like, that's just the weirdest thing to me.

01:29:08.000 You try to relate to someone and say, I can understand your argument, and they just, they basically spit in your face.

01:29:12.000 Yeah, if I was Lush, slap your microphone. 0.99

01:29:13.000 I really like your skin color, man.

01:29:15.000 You have really nice skin color.

01:29:16.000 Like, I don't hear that compliment going around a lot, but you can compliment someone's bone structure.

01:29:20.000 You got really nice cheekbones.

01:29:21.000 I was told this today.

01:29:23.000 So I had to get makeup for the Daily Wire.

01:29:24.000 Oh boy.

01:29:25.000 They do this thing where they're like, uh, they're very polite about it.

01:29:28.000 They go, uh, would you want to do any touching up?

01:29:30.000 Any, you know, makeup?

01:29:31.000 Cause I got like a blemish here and there.

01:29:32.000 And I was like, I'm good.

01:29:34.000 Like, you sure?

01:29:34.000 I think it's fine.

01:29:35.000 Just a little bit?

01:29:36.000 I mean, we can do it.

01:29:36.000 It's no big deal.

01:29:37.000 And I was like, if you guys think it's, it's, it's, I need it.

01:29:41.000 They're like, no, no, no, it's fine.

01:29:42.000 Like, we might as well.

01:29:43.000 Right?

01:29:44.000 You know, trying to be polite about it.

01:29:45.000 Every camera needs a nail.

01:29:47.000 You know what the makeup artists always say? 0.72

01:29:47.000 But you know what? 0.72

01:29:50.000 Maybe it's just true for me.

01:29:52.000 They say, you have great skin.

01:29:54.000 No, I imagine they say it to everybody because they're doing makeup and they got to say that to you.

01:29:58.000 And did I go, excuse me?

01:29:59.000 What does that mean?

01:30:01.000 Are you talking about the color?

01:30:02.000 I'm just like, okay, you know, whatever.

01:30:02.000 No!

01:30:06.000 Let me ask y'all a difficult question.

01:30:08.000 This is, I think, because it'd be difficult to be this transparent, but I'm, this is the Tim Pool show.

01:30:13.000 You guys are really transparent.

01:30:16.000 As, and Tim, I know you're not white per se, but do you have trepidation in dealing with black people you don't know?

01:30:26.000 Because anything you say can and will be potentially used against you.

01:30:32.000 Does that thought cross your mind?

01:30:35.000 You know, coming in and talking to me, it's like you watch my show, you know my reputation.

01:30:40.000 Oh, I can be myself.

01:30:41.000 It's Whitlock.

01:30:42.000 But when you're dealing with Perhaps someone black that you don't know. 0.95

01:30:46.000 Do you sit there and think like, oh my god, let me be very careful?

01:30:50.000 Not after I see their eyes.

01:30:52.000 We are the brain eyeballs, spinal cord creature, holding these, moving these saltwater bodies around.

01:30:59.000 You just look in the eyes, man.

01:31:01.000 It's not that we're all the same, I used to say that a lot, but it's like...

01:31:04.000 I don't even, like, all the color and the shape fades away when you're communicating with someone.

01:31:09.000 And everybody appreciates it.

01:31:12.000 That's been my ethos since I was, like, 14, at least.

01:31:16.000 Since I was two.

01:31:17.000 But really when I was 26.

01:31:18.000 You know what it is for me?

01:31:20.000 It's politics, not race. 0.90

01:31:22.000 When, you know, there's that study, I think it was out of Yale, we talk about quite a bit, where conservatives speak to black people normally, but liberals, like, dumb down their language, which is the It's insane. 0.52

01:31:35.000 I couldn't imagine doing that.

01:31:37.000 And so, you know, for me, I'm like, I really just kind of talk to everybody the way I talk to everybody.

01:31:45.000 I might have, I think it's fair to say there are certain assumptions we might make about people based on race, based on the politics of our environment.

01:31:55.000 But I would say 99.9% is just like, I'm going to talk to this person the same way I talk to everybody else, because I don't want to make assumptions about them.

01:32:02.000 Yeah, first, we're not different races.

01:32:04.000 We're the same species, the Homo sapien.

01:32:06.000 And I like talking to people with different ethnic backgrounds or like different genetic backgrounds, because our ancestors lived in different environments.

01:32:13.000 Like the Asian ancestry, maybe because the winds were so biting in the Mongolian plains, they squinted. 0.91

01:32:18.000 And over generations, the babies were just born so they didn't have to squint, you know?

01:32:21.000 Or people with darker skin than mine had a lot of sunlight.

01:32:24.000 People with light skin like mine, their ancestors lived at night.

01:32:27.000 Everybody has darker skin.

01:32:28.000 My dad, one time, I was at the beach, and my dad was like, we lost Ian, where's Ian?

01:32:31.000 They looked down the beach, they saw a glowing white thing, and they're like, there he is, and he's alright.

01:32:35.000 Here's what I think is important to understand, especially when it comes to race.

01:32:39.000 There's different physical characteristics, say hair for instance.

01:32:44.000 There's different hair products for white and black people, or not even necessarily white and black, but there literally are different hair treatments and styles.

01:32:53.000 So, there's an assumption someone might make, but it shouldn't change.

01:32:56.000 These things don't change the way you treat a human being's soul, their spirit.

01:33:01.000 I wonder about this because when we talk with people like Seamus of Freedom Tunes, for instance, and you know he very much believes in the soul and the body as being one.

01:33:10.000 I'm like, is it something that people who don't believe in a soul will treat you like nothing but the body and ignore your inner, you know what I mean?

01:33:18.000 You know what I don't like?

01:33:19.000 They'll look at you and think your race is you instead of wondering about who you are as a person because you have a soul.

01:33:24.000 I don't like when I talk to people about people with dark skin.

01:33:28.000 If I'm talking about the difference of light skin and dark skin because it's relative to my skin color and that's really rude of me to act like that. 0.65

01:33:35.000 Like, I should be talking about people with light skin And just see it from other perspectives than me as like the zero point, as the starting point.

01:33:43.000 Well let me... I don't know if you wanted to answer that because I don't want to...

01:33:46.000 No, I mean, I'd like to think I'd give people, you know, the first volley in a conversation, and it's going to be the same for just about everybody that I interact with.

01:33:54.000 And, you know, over iterations, that's when I'll build a sort of a model.

01:33:58.000 But there's like a light... Hold on, I want to throw the question back at you, Jason.

01:34:01.000 Do you think you, or do you think black people, have a certain way of talking with white people, in like a similar fashion you asked us?

01:34:11.000 In this culture today, no, I don't think there's any trepidation, any fear, because I think the culture has kind of said there are no standards for black behavior.

01:34:25.000 Have you seen the Ami Horowitz video on voter ID?

01:34:30.000 I think I have.

01:34:32.000 I didn't mean to interrupt you, so if you want to finish that thought real quick.

01:34:34.000 No, go ahead.

01:34:35.000 So, uh, you know they say voter ID is racist?

01:34:37.000 Classic video.

01:34:37.000 Yeah.

01:34:38.000 I love bringing it up.

01:34:40.000 So he goes to Berkeley, and he asks these young white progressives, is voter ID racist?

01:34:43.000 And what do they say?

01:34:44.000 He says, why?

01:34:44.000 Of course.

01:34:45.000 He gets a few answers. 0.99

01:34:47.000 Black people can't afford IDs. 1.00

01:34:48.000 Black people don't know where the DMV is. 1.00

01:34:51.000 And black people don't have the internet. 1.00

01:34:52.000 So he goes to the Bronx. 0.99

01:34:54.000 He goes to Harlem.

01:34:55.000 And he asks this woman, he's like, ma'am, this might be, he's a black woman, he's like, this might seem strange, but do you have an ID?

01:35:01.000 And she goes, what?

01:35:03.000 I know it might seem strange.

01:35:04.000 And she goes, of course I have an ID.

01:35:05.000 He's like, okay.

01:35:06.000 He asks a young, young black man.

01:35:08.000 He's like, I know, I know it might seem strange.

01:35:11.000 Do you know anybody who doesn't have the internet?

01:35:13.000 And he's like, what do you mean?

01:35:14.000 12 year old kids know how to get the internet.

01:35:15.000 We got it on our phone.

01:35:17.000 But my favorite interaction.

01:35:19.000 Is when he walks up to this older black dude and he goes, do you know where the DMV is?

01:35:23.000 He goes, yeah, it's right over on 25th.

01:35:26.000 He's giving him directions.

01:35:27.000 And I'm just like, for the media to push this narrative about black people, it's like, have you ever talked to a black person?

01:35:34.000 The assumption that they're a different and foreign group of people to me is mind boggling.

01:35:39.000 But it plays right into that Yale study I was just talking about.

01:35:41.000 I don't like black and white.

01:35:42.000 I don't like the words.

01:35:43.000 Because, first of all, my skin's not white. 0.97

01:35:45.000 It's, like, pinkish.

01:35:46.000 Your skin's not black. 0.94

01:35:47.000 It's, like, brown, red, you know?

01:35:49.000 And, like, historically, white magic is, like, healing magic, and black magic is, like, dark arts.

01:35:54.000 Like, blood magic.

01:35:55.000 So, like, it's the stigmas attached to calling people black and white when we're not.

01:36:00.000 Hold on.

01:36:01.000 I gotta, I gotta push back because that is a woke argument where they're trying to claim that, like, Harry Potter and Magic the Gathering are racist.

01:36:08.000 White and black as a reference to night and day.

01:36:10.000 Exactly.

01:36:11.000 In the daytime you can see the predators coming and at night you can't.

01:36:11.000 It's not racist.

01:36:14.000 So there's this inherent, like, scariness to the dark night, you know?

01:36:18.000 So, like, I don't like that people use black and white.

01:36:20.000 I don't like black. 1.00

01:36:23.000 Then stop playing Magic the Gathering because black and white magic.

01:36:26.000 I'm a white mage through and through but that's just gonna like to heal people.

01:36:28.000 I get where you're coming from, because the word blackballed.

01:36:31.000 Like, black has a negative connotation, which is arguing, like, Jason's not even black.

01:36:37.000 Why are we calling him black?

01:36:39.000 I'm not really white.

01:36:40.000 I get that, but because we've established these cultural customs that we all somewhat adhere to, you know, we gotta live in this reality.

01:36:52.000 I want to shatter that.

01:36:52.000 Do we?

01:36:54.000 I think you're 100% right.

01:36:54.000 I agree.

01:36:57.000 That should be the goal.

01:36:58.000 I think we should be literally trying to live up to Dr. King's dream.

01:37:02.000 Judge people by the content of the character.

01:37:04.000 The left seems to be taking us the total opposite direction.

01:37:08.000 And we now all have... Again, what you're seeing with black people is that they interpret the world through this lens of race every interaction and it's like hey man some people just are having a bad day it had nothing to do with your skin color their wife may have made them sleep on the couch last night and so he's grumpy and gave you a cold answer it it and so but we expect anything that bad if if if he punched me in the arm right now 1.00

01:37:41.000 I could oh he only did that because I'm black that may be his way of greeting everybody that he's friendly with or finds you know interesting or whatever but we just describe race and some negative connotation to Any experience we have.

01:37:57.000 There might be- Oh, I got a really good one, though, real quick.

01:37:59.000 We are way behind, so go quick.

01:38:01.000 Okay, um, it- Back in the day when we were all, like, hunting with spears and stuff, if I went out there with my glowing white light skin and I'm in the middle of the night and the moon's out, you're gonna see me.

01:38:09.000 But if someone with darker brown skin is gonna be more, like, camouflaged, maybe racism comes from that. 0.84

01:38:16.000 Well, there's- there's- Or like fear or stuff comes from that.

01:38:20.000 It comes from the other, the fear of the other.

01:38:22.000 But it's actually harder to see darker objects at night.

01:38:26.000 It's true, but the racism is rooted in the idea of, I know you're not from my city.

01:38:31.000 I know you're not from my town.

01:38:32.000 I know you're not from my tribe.

01:38:33.000 And otherism creates fear and tribalism.

01:38:36.000 But we got to go to super chat.

01:38:37.000 Sorry, Jason, because we are 10 minutes behind.

01:38:39.000 Tell me after the show.

01:38:40.000 So let's go to Super Chats.

01:38:42.000 If you guys haven't already, smash that like button.

01:38:44.000 I'm wondering if there's a lot of Super Chats from when the Daily Wire took over our broadcast, so that'll be fun.

01:38:51.000 But we'll just see what you guys got.

01:38:54.000 All right, Dr. Rollergator in the house says, Hi Colin, this is Gator.

01:38:57.000 You've been in Nashville for like three weeks.

01:38:59.000 How are you still sober?

01:39:01.000 Hashtag free Dr. Rollergator.

01:39:03.000 I mean, I've been hitting up some of the bars around town, doing some moonshining and distilling and all kinds of stuff.

01:39:09.000 So we're going to, I don't know if I can say I'm sober.

01:39:12.000 You coming to Redneck Riviera?

01:39:15.000 I heard about that, yeah.

01:39:16.000 I think we're gonna be there from like 2 to 3, but I'm not sure.

01:39:19.000 It might be like 2.30 to 3.

01:39:21.000 Not as long as I thought, because everybody's very, very busy, and then we actually have to get on the road immediately.

01:39:26.000 That's actually a big part of me coming to Nashville, is because I googled craft distilleries when I was downtown visiting, and like 50 popped up, and I was like, okay, I'll move here.

01:39:34.000 Yeah, sounds good.

01:39:35.000 Right on.

01:39:35.000 All right, let's read some more Super Chats.

01:39:41.000 Alright, Jace McNeil says, hey Tim, watched the vlog today with the troubles of the camper.

01:39:45.000 Would love to be your full-time truck trailer driver.

01:39:48.000 There were problems?

01:39:49.000 I did not see any of them.

01:39:50.000 The comments on the vlog are like, the first 11 minutes were hard to watch.

01:39:53.000 I'm a truck driver, hire me.

01:39:55.000 Well, all I know is I showed up in Nashville and the trailer was here because the crew took care of business.

01:40:00.000 So I'm good.

01:40:01.000 I'm good.

01:40:02.000 All right.

01:40:03.000 Lior Engelstein says the latest Quinnipiac poll finds Joe Biden with a 26% approval rating among Hispanics lower than his rating among whites.

01:40:12.000 Almost like people like laws.

01:40:15.000 Yeah.

01:40:17.000 I imagine a lot of the people who escaped communism don't like the idea of socialism.

01:40:23.000 You know, the same.

01:40:25.000 For sure.

01:40:26.000 We gotta go down there.

01:40:27.000 Planet Dive Free says, you still owe me Timcast IRL episode with Ron Paul.

01:40:31.000 Luke said he can set it up.

01:40:32.000 One of the most important figures alive to have on your show.

01:40:35.000 I would be honored and I would love to have Dr. Ron Paul on the show.

01:40:41.000 Where's he based out of?

01:40:43.000 But it's actually somewhere.

01:40:44.000 Somewhere in Texas.

01:40:44.000 I don't know.

01:40:45.000 Deep in the heart of Texas, I believe.

01:40:46.000 Deep in the heart.

01:40:47.000 That's my understanding.

01:40:48.000 I mean, yeah, we should absolutely figure it out.

01:40:51.000 And, you know, he's an older guy, so we should probably, you know, get on that.

01:40:54.000 I'm a big fan of Ron Paul.

01:40:55.000 And there's this... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:40:58.000 I'll just put it that way.

01:40:59.000 I love the idea of liberty.

01:41:01.000 I've always... I've never agreed with him on everything, because he does have more traditional views.

01:41:06.000 But the idea of, I will leave you alone, is very appealing to me.

01:41:09.000 So I'm like...

01:41:10.000 You know, Ron Paul, I think it was Ron Paul who said, you can be a socialist in America, just buy land and make your socialist little commune.

01:41:16.000 Boom.

01:41:17.000 I'm like, yes, yes please.

01:41:20.000 That's what I always tell people.

01:41:21.000 Left libertarian is like, I'm gonna buy a farm, me and my friends are gonna live on it, and we're gonna share our fruits and vegetables together.

01:41:28.000 That's it.

01:41:29.000 You wanna scale it up to a big city, good luck.

01:41:31.000 I don't see that happening.

01:41:33.000 All right.

01:41:33.000 Medic Knight says, Tim, ask the Daily Wire crew if they're familiar with the Libertarian Party Mises Caucus.

01:41:39.000 If so, they should have Dave Smith on their show to discuss debate ideas.

01:41:42.000 Would love to see Dave versus Ben Shapiro.

01:41:44.000 That is an amazing idea.

01:41:45.000 Yeah, that is.

01:41:46.000 And I think, I feel like Ben would be absolutely up for it.

01:41:49.000 Let's do it.

01:41:50.000 And Dave is amazing as well.

01:41:51.000 So if I, yeah, I'll definitely, I'll definitely ask him about that because we're big fans of Dave and Michael Malice as well.

01:41:58.000 I would love to see Michael Malice talk with Ben Shapiro.

01:42:02.000 Wouldn't that be amazing?

01:42:03.000 Have they never had an interaction before?

01:42:05.000 I don't know, maybe they did.

01:42:08.000 Who is your ultimate guest whistlist person?

01:42:12.000 If you could interview one person.

01:42:14.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:42:15.000 Ron Paul.

01:42:17.000 Ron Paul would be great.

01:42:18.000 We already got Joe Rogan.

01:42:20.000 Well, I mean, yeah, that's a little different.

01:42:22.000 It's cool to have, like, the king of podcasting on your show, and he came in and hung out with Alex Jones, so that was a pretty epic moment.

01:42:28.000 I don't know how you topped that, to be honest.

01:42:30.000 Alex Jones and Joe Rogan came on this show at the same time?

01:42:33.000 Who's yours, Jason?

01:42:36.000 Oh, man, that's a great question.

01:42:39.000 I should have thought give me I'll answer after he reads the next one.

01:42:43.000 Let me think about that.

01:42:43.000 All right.

01:42:44.000 Nick s says I hope you got a high speed camera so we can play back you and Ben at speed the human ear can pick up.

01:42:51.000 Someone, you know, just said, turn the speed down to 50% because we need to sit down with Ben Shapiro today.

01:42:58.000 It'll be up on Sunday in a bonus Sunday episode.

01:43:01.000 It'll be like, I think it's like an hour and 15-20 minutes long.

01:43:04.000 So just, you know, half speed.

01:43:06.000 And you'll hear us talking like this.

01:43:09.000 That's an interesting point, Ben.

01:43:11.000 Sounds like Sam Harris.

01:43:12.000 Otherwise it'd be like, well, but that's a really interesting point, which I don't understand what's going on with these colleges and these kids in these schools.

01:43:17.000 We both talk very fast, so.

01:43:19.000 I mentioned that to one of the crew guys and they were like, oh yeah.

01:43:21.000 I know who I want to interview.

01:43:23.000 There's two people for different reasons.

01:43:25.000 Barack Obama, because I'd like to challenge him on the way he handled the race issue.

01:43:31.000 But probably the person I'm most fascinated with right now is Bill Maher.

01:43:35.000 Because I think he's been completely red-pilled and is just trying to ease his way up out of HBO once he can get his podcast up and rolling.

01:43:47.000 And then he's already telling us what he thinks, but I think eventually he's going to tell us what he really thinks.

01:43:54.000 Bill Maher said in 2019, was it, bring on the recession because he hated Trump so much that all the pain and suffering we see.

01:44:02.000 I just, someone tweeted about it and I said, am I supposed to forgive that?

01:44:08.000 to know I mean probably no no I think he should be held to account about it

01:44:08.000 Yeah.

01:44:08.000 I mean, probably.

01:44:12.000 but still forgive and I think he should I think you know I don't know if Joe

01:44:17.000 mentioned this soon she's on a show recently but I mean it's the first thing

01:44:20.000 I'd say I'd say bill in in 2019 you said bring on the recession and so many

01:44:26.000 people are suffering People are at risk of losing their lives.

01:44:30.000 People, I mean, look in Shang how bad it is.

01:44:32.000 You know, you wished this because you didn't like Trump, and now things are worse.

01:44:37.000 So it's like not only did you wish pain and suffering on people because you didn't like Donald Trump, maybe you were scared that I can get, but Biden is worse.

01:44:45.000 He's objectively worse, so you wished for pain and suffering, and you got an extended state of it.

01:44:51.000 That's not okay, man.

01:44:52.000 That's a luxury belief.

01:44:54.000 Let me add one point to that, because I wanted to say it earlier when we were talking about your conversation with the Daily Wirecast about presidential candidates.

01:45:02.000 This is why I'm of the opinion that Trump not running in 2024 might be a blessing because when Trump's not in office, it makes the Democrats actually have to defend their positions rather than just saying Trump.

01:45:19.000 You ask him any question, they just go Trump.

01:45:21.000 And so once you take that off the table, that's why I think you're seeing Bill Maher pivot so much because he can't just holler Trump like he used to.

01:45:30.000 So Harryto says, no audio.

01:45:32.000 Someone is getting fired.

01:45:33.000 Yeah, what happened with the audio?

01:45:35.000 I don't know the techniques.

01:45:36.000 Do you?

01:45:37.000 So I know a little bit about it, but I think the Daily Wire was sending us two channels that were canceling each other out when you were listening with headphones.

01:45:43.000 So if you listen with headphones... Yeah, because we had people who were like, it's fine for me.

01:45:47.000 I can't hear a thing at all.

01:45:48.000 And everybody's like, okay, refresh the page or whatever.

01:45:50.000 So Eddie unplugged one cable and he made it all go away.

01:45:54.000 How long was the audio out for?

01:45:55.000 I'm not sure.

01:45:56.000 It was a few minutes there at the beginning.

01:45:57.000 Nine minutes?

01:45:58.000 It was like the first half.

01:45:59.000 Less than the first.

01:46:00.000 But if you go back and re-watch the show without headphones, you may be able to hear it.

01:46:04.000 Yeah, so now you know for sure.

01:46:06.000 That was the issue.

01:46:07.000 We had two different... I forget what they're called.

01:46:08.000 I think they're called two different channels.

01:46:10.000 I'm probably explaining this wrong.

01:46:11.000 I'm not the 80s person.

01:46:11.000 But you guys in here heard everything like normal?

01:46:13.000 Yeah, we did.

01:46:14.000 We heard everything.

01:46:15.000 It's a weird thing I've seen happen before.

01:46:15.000 That's happened before.

01:46:17.000 Yeah, it was funky.

01:46:18.000 But it did bring a lot more attention.

01:46:18.000 Crazy how that happens.

01:46:21.000 You know, we'll have to do we'll have to and people were so Benjamin said everyone go to the daily wire live stream because you Oh, yeah.

01:46:28.000 But you know, what we'll have to do is just if we if we if we have that glitch on our recorded version for the podcast, we'll have to just check for it, I guess.

01:46:35.000 Yeah, we'll see.

01:46:37.000 Well, you know, guys, someone, someone said, how long was this planned for?

01:46:40.000 And I was like, the entire time we were planning on coming out here.

01:46:42.000 Well, like a couple of weeks before, I think.

01:46:45.000 But when you get here and you're trying to duct tape everything together to be like, how can we pull this off?

01:46:50.000 Because we need their feed to come to our trailer. 0.83

01:46:52.000 We'd like run cables and do all this stuff.

01:46:54.000 And these things happen.

01:46:55.000 It's truly magical.

01:46:55.000 You guys could see behind the scenes of the production capacity that went into it.

01:46:59.000 It was.

01:46:59.000 Even with all the awesome Daily Wire tech people, it still required a lot of thinking.

01:47:03.000 We practiced it three or four times beforehand, and it was quite the production.

01:47:07.000 It's funny because you see us hanging out all chill, but man, there are people running around pointing at me.

01:47:10.000 Oh man, it's crazy.

01:47:13.000 Alright, let's see what we got.

01:47:16.000 James just says, can we fix the audio?

01:47:19.000 Well, we did.

01:47:20.000 Yes, we can.

01:47:21.000 How long was I up there for?

01:47:23.000 My guess is 20 minutes, 18, and the audio was down for like maybe eight.

01:47:28.000 I was worried about you guys.

01:47:29.000 I was like, I'd feel really bad if they keep me here really long.

01:47:31.000 It was fun.

01:47:32.000 It was a really good conversation.

01:47:32.000 We were listening.

01:47:33.000 It was a good conversation.

01:47:35.000 It was great.

01:47:38.000 RVDL says, so is Daily Wire buying out Timcast?

01:47:41.000 No.

01:47:43.000 We are, uh... TimCast.com is a very large company.

01:47:48.000 It's, uh, it's relatively large.

01:47:50.000 TimCast.com has around, what do we have, like 35 employees?

01:47:54.000 Oh, TimCast.

01:47:55.000 Yeah.

01:47:55.000 TimCast.com's the website.

01:47:57.000 Well, yeah, but TimCast in general.

01:47:59.000 I mean, this trailer we're in is probably like a $200,000 rig.

01:47:59.000 We're a big company.

01:48:02.000 I'm always telling Tim, man, hold on to your IP, bro.

01:48:05.000 Take it to the top.

01:48:06.000 But, you know, we've got... I think partnership's the key.

01:48:08.000 No, no investors.

01:48:10.000 We've got no influence behind anything we do.

01:48:14.000 I am but a single dude who started making YouTube videos and has continually, just every day I wake up, I put a brick down.

01:48:19.000 And I think that's important.

01:48:21.000 However...

01:48:22.000 There may be certain deals, because we're talking about TV shows, and I don't know.

01:48:27.000 You never know.

01:48:28.000 It really comes down to... It would be very difficult for literally anyone to be able to buy out this company at this point, to be completely honest.

01:48:35.000 But what we're mostly talking about with the guys over at Daily Wire is, you know, building culture.

01:48:40.000 We do not have the capability to do movies, but we certainly have a bunch of crazy ideas for movies.

01:48:44.000 They want to do movies.

01:48:45.000 They like crazy ideas.

01:48:47.000 And so I think that's where we're headed.

01:48:49.000 We've got with Tales from the Inverted World and a bunch of other ideas.

01:48:52.000 Certainly things that might be of interest for them in terms of making content.

01:48:55.000 So there might be something, you know, going on.

01:48:57.000 We still have to talk about it.

01:48:58.000 But I'm a big fan of the Daily Wire crew.

01:49:01.000 I heard you say something very similar to what Jeremy believes.

01:49:06.000 I think you said it during this podcast, or maybe you said it to me before the show.

01:49:10.000 If you're going to change culture, you gotta be willing to create it.

01:49:14.000 And that's what I like, what you're doing, and what The Daily Wire's doing.

01:49:18.000 But not just that.

01:49:19.000 So, when we launched Pop Culture Crisis on YouTube, for everybody, go to youtube.com slash popculturecrisis, subscribe.

01:49:27.000 If you're into pop culture content, So, you know, we had this conversation very much at the beginning of the show.

01:49:33.000 I'm like, guys, it's not about politics.

01:49:35.000 The headlines should not be like, woke this, woke that Democrat Republican with, you know, cultural stuff in there.

01:49:42.000 It is literally a story where it's like Disney launches new Marvel show.

01:49:47.000 And the reason is, Too many people are just like, let's launch our new version of cultural commentary where we make fun of what they're doing.

01:49:53.000 And I'm like, okay, well, I mean, that's great.

01:49:55.000 I don't care if, you know, watch all of these cultural commentary channels.

01:49:58.000 We do that.

01:49:59.000 What we need is cultural participation.

01:50:02.000 We need people who share our values to be talking about the same thing that regular people are talking about, not approaching them like an other and complaining to their faces about it.

01:50:11.000 So what happens is when Disney announces a new movie, the guys over at Pop Culture Crisis will be like, here's the new movie, here's what's happening, here's what they think.

01:50:18.000 Behind that is their values.

01:50:20.000 So the way I see it is, the mistake the woke are making is that they're making movies and putting the message first.

01:50:27.000 What The Daily Wire is doing is making movies and putting the message secondary.

01:50:30.000 So you've got good entertainment, and then it just so happens to have a little bit here and there of like, our values are behind it.

01:50:35.000 That's what I'm talking about with pop culture crisis.

01:50:37.000 People can watch about new movies, celebrities, video games, and then secondary is, well you guys know we believe in freedom and personal responsibility, but we're not slapping you over the head with it.

01:50:47.000 So we can engage with the culture.

01:50:49.000 The next step is making that culture.

01:50:51.000 But we're not making Hollywood movies, so this is the slow roll we're doing.

01:50:54.000 We're making Nashville movies now, baby.

01:50:56.000 I mean, yeah, hopefully, hopefully.

01:50:59.000 Richard says, I wouldn't be surprised if YouTube ruined the audio on purpose.

01:51:02.000 We're talking about people who are furious they can't groom kids.

01:51:04.000 What's cutting an audio feed?

01:51:05.000 Either way, this is better than The Avengers.

01:51:08.000 It was really fun because I said, uh, I said that, um, you know, the title, Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire crew takes over.

01:51:16.000 People may have missed it, but when I walked in, I straight up just said that to everybody.

01:51:19.000 I was like, yeah, I just titled it that Ben Shapiro was taking it over because he's the most famous guy in the room and everybody laughed.

01:51:23.000 And, uh, but then I was like, thank you all for joining on my show.

01:51:26.000 Yeah, it was fun.

01:51:27.000 But you guys heard all that?

01:51:28.000 We heard it at the audience.

01:51:30.000 Half the audience heard it or something. 0.99

01:51:31.000 That sucks. 0.98

01:51:32.000 Maybe more than half. 0.86

01:51:34.000 We'll get it right the next time we do it, because that was a whole lot of fun.

01:51:36.000 We were lucky enough to be here while they were doing Backstage Live.

01:51:38.000 They had to run in and pin that mic on your chest.

01:51:40.000 That was awesome.

01:51:41.000 You were watching me run up and do all that stuff?

01:51:43.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:51:45.000 That's so cool.

01:51:46.000 Well, you know what?

01:51:47.000 The audio... Oh, man.

01:51:50.000 Because I was talking while I was going in there, and that's only on our end.

01:51:53.000 Oh, that was good, yeah.

01:51:54.000 Yeah.

01:51:55.000 All right.

01:51:56.000 Adrian Contreras says, if Crowder shows up out of nowhere, I will probably have an accident.

01:52:02.000 I think, you know, we've got an event being planned in New York now that they've lifted the mandates and stuff.

01:52:10.000 Maybe.

01:52:11.000 It might be too soon, but I would love to have, you know, an Avengers moment.

01:52:15.000 Just get independent media people to come and just, you know...

01:52:18.000 What do we gotta do to pack the Madison Square Garden stadium?

01:52:20.000 Talk about it like five times on this show.

01:52:22.000 It's gonna sell out so fast, dude.

01:52:24.000 It's 2,800 seats.

01:52:25.000 No, I'm talking about the 60,000 seats.

01:52:27.000 Oh.

01:52:28.000 Um... Yeah, what do we gotta do to make that happen?

01:52:29.000 Two months of publicity?

01:52:31.000 I mean, you know, I gotta be honest.

01:52:33.000 If the Daily Wire, Tim Kast, Crowder, Rubin... And maybe Rogan.

01:52:38.000 You know, he's not necessarily in the same space, but if he's booked for it, he will.

01:52:41.000 Dave Chappelle?

01:52:41.000 If we could get...

01:52:43.000 I mean, now we're reaching.

01:52:44.000 I think Dave would sell the stadium on his own.

01:52:46.000 But I think if everybody's promoting it, we could do a big event.

01:52:49.000 I think there's a big, like, want for that stuff.

01:52:51.000 Remember, before the pandemic, they were having these conversations between, like, Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson.

01:52:56.000 They were selling out fairly large venues.

01:52:58.000 I mean, I think that really hasn't been rebooted since then, too.

01:53:02.000 Like, I think there's still potential for that, for sure.

01:53:06.000 Kurt Crystal says, Top 10 Timcast IRL moments.

01:53:09.000 You know, when they told me they wanted to, they were like, how can we have you jump feeds to DailyWire?

01:53:15.000 I was like, man, we'll need a remote camera.

01:53:17.000 It'll have to be like here, plugged in in advance.

01:53:20.000 We'll need a way to switch it into our system.

01:53:22.000 I was like, that sounds tough.

01:53:23.000 Especially the last minute.

01:53:25.000 And the crew made it happen.

01:53:26.000 Yeah.

01:53:26.000 A lot of hard work, a lot of testing.

01:53:27.000 Great teamwork between the two teams.

01:53:28.000 Well, I guess there was an audio issue, but you know.

01:53:30.000 Yeah.

01:53:31.000 Incredible.

01:53:31.000 All right.

01:53:32.000 Nanad Srejic says, what's up?

01:53:34.000 Hasan stands in the chat.

01:53:35.000 Glad you decided to listen to an intelligent conversation for once.

01:53:39.000 You know, I just, I'll point this out because we, we, this is also, uh, the conversation we all had with Ben Shapiro, which will be up on Sunday, as I mentioned.

01:53:47.000 Why is it that it's always the right as they, as the left describes it?

01:53:51.000 That is like our door is always open to all people, including the left to have a conversation, but it's always the left saying no.

01:53:58.000 They won't do it.

01:54:00.000 I had that recently.

01:54:01.000 Scientific American did a hit piece on one of my articles saying that sex is real and I just made, I'm trying to be as polite as possible, I reached out to the editor you know just saying like we should have a platform we should have a conversation about this and then now she's tweeting today about how she's just getting trolled by By me, apparently.

01:54:19.000 This middle-aged, or I guess old, comedian woman gave an interview.

01:54:25.000 And it's the weirdest interview because it shouldn't exist because this lady's not relevant. 1.00

01:54:28.000 She's not relevant to the point where I'm not going to say her name.

01:54:30.000 But she was like, whenever I speak up, the Joe Rogan army comes for me.

01:54:34.000 The Tim Pool army comes for me. 0.96

01:54:36.000 And I'm like, what?

01:54:37.000 The Tim Pool army comes for you?

01:54:38.000 What are you talking about, lady?

01:54:40.000 I never talk about you.

01:54:42.000 I'm sure people know who I'm talking about, but I'm not going to say her name because I don't care about her.

01:54:44.000 Not relevant.

01:54:45.000 Right.

01:54:45.000 But it's funny how they lie and stuff.

01:54:48.000 All right.

01:54:49.000 ELA says, I love how independent media supports each other.

01:54:52.000 You all talk about the importance of decentralization, and it's awesome how you were all building each other up instead of trying to knock each other down, walk in the walk.

01:54:59.000 Well, because I think one of the things that actually unifies, despite the differences in politics between The Daily Wire, us at TimCast, or Steven Crowder, is that we agree to disagree.

01:55:09.000 We respect the disagreement, and we're arguing, and it's fun.

01:55:13.000 It's fun.

01:55:14.000 But the left is like, I'm not going to come on your show and talk to you.

01:55:17.000 They just want to hide behind their screens and, you know, engage in sophistry.

01:55:22.000 Well, it's rare that I disagree with someone 100%.

01:55:24.000 So even when you were talking about, you know, your Christian perspective, and I'm, you know, a card-carrying atheist.

01:55:30.000 There's still things, there's truth to what you're saying about, you know, gay marriage and things like that and, you know, slippery slope stuff. 1.00

01:55:37.000 So it's, to me, it's just like finding those areas.

01:55:39.000 Like where, what is the truth in what you're saying?

01:55:42.000 Where can we, what can we work with?

01:55:43.000 How do we overlap?

01:55:44.000 I think there are people that are searching for truth and there are people promoting an agenda.

01:55:52.000 And if you're searching for truth, you'll talk to anybody because who knows?

01:55:56.000 That person may have some piece of truth that you're not aware of.

01:56:00.000 If you're promoting an agenda, you know, you're gonna stay away from certain people.

01:56:04.000 Scott Knowlton says, Tim, you should relocate to Nashville.

01:56:07.000 Make Nashville the conservative Hollywood.

01:56:10.000 I think one of the big things conservatives have going for it is that post-liberals are basically conservatives now.

01:56:16.000 Like, look at this guy, Ian.

01:56:17.000 Can we get Ian?

01:56:18.000 Look at him.

01:56:19.000 Hi, everyone.

01:56:20.000 I think of myself as neutral.

01:56:21.000 Can I be neutral?

01:56:22.000 Just like centralized and then neutral?

01:56:24.000 But think about what you were saying about how you didn't like white and black, you know, magic, because it's like a negative reference.

01:56:29.000 I mean, that's a pretty liberal statement.

01:56:32.000 But when we have conversations, you can disagree on certain ideas.

01:56:37.000 But what we do agree on, for the most part, between The Daily Wire and us, is, is a story true or false?

01:56:42.000 Were the Covington kids being racist?

01:56:44.000 No, they weren't.

01:56:45.000 But the left thinks they were, and that's what makes them left.

01:56:47.000 There's times for every human to be liberal and there's times for everybody to be conservative.

01:56:51.000 And then if you start labeling yourself, I'm a big C, this thing, just that's identity politics.

01:56:56.000 Don't, don't worry so much about that.

01:56:58.000 Boxes you in.

01:56:59.000 Boxes you in from the truth.

01:57:02.000 Away from the truth.

01:57:04.000 Yep.

01:57:06.000 The distinction between left and right is truth and fiction.

01:57:09.000 The left keeps falling for every hoax.

01:57:11.000 The right challenges these stories and then turns out to be right most of the time.

01:57:14.000 So I think when people say we should move to Nashville to make a conservative Hollywood, I'm like, I mean, look, conservatives don't think we're conservative.

01:57:21.000 You take a look at me walking into the Daily Wire HQ, and I even mention, I'm like, look how I'm dressed compared to everybody else here.

01:57:26.000 I think, you know, we might have come from different worlds a little bit.

01:57:28.000 I'm wearing sneakers, jeans, and a t-shirt, and they're all dressed very well.

01:57:33.000 You know, I go in there... Especially Michael Knowles.

01:57:34.000 Oh, absolutely!

01:57:36.000 And, you know, they're not uptight people.

01:57:39.000 They just dress, you know, for business.

01:57:43.000 Well, they're suits, right?

01:57:45.000 And so, I'm like, they're suits, we're street, we're, you know, but if we can agree on the basic facts, the conversation can exist.

01:57:53.000 We can disagree on certain things, but we agree on what reality is.

01:57:58.000 So if we came to Nashville, the big advantage that the right has right now, conservatives have, is there are many people like me.

01:58:06.000 I know a lot of pro skateboarders who, they message me periodically, they're like, love your show, we're big fans, we agree.

01:58:12.000 Because we don't like what's happening with the authoritarian cancel culture.

01:58:15.000 People do not want to live in fear that someone's going to try and destroy their life.

01:58:19.000 Let's move to Nashville.

01:58:20.000 Let's get a studio like an hour out of town.

01:58:22.000 We just put this big investment into Fredomistan and Nashville's ridiculously expensive.

01:58:27.000 Like an hour out of town?

01:58:28.000 That's kind of far.

01:58:29.000 Forty minutes out of town?

01:58:30.000 Or nine and a half hours away.

01:58:32.000 I love Nashville.

01:58:33.000 Dude, Nashville?

01:58:34.000 The birds chirp all night in Nashville.

01:58:36.000 It's true and it's weird.

01:58:37.000 What is up?

01:58:38.000 The music city!

01:58:39.000 I don't know, it's so weird.

01:58:40.000 There's something in the air, man.

01:58:41.000 There's electricity in this area.

01:58:42.000 Everybody's singing, man.

01:58:44.000 Alright, Yoda Thrash says, whenever Jason is on, it's total worlds collide for me.

01:58:48.000 It's the old school BMXer guy who wants to talk street spots with Tim, but then football guy that wants to talk to Jason about zone coverage versus man to man.

01:58:57.000 Is there a time and a place for zone and man, or do you pick one or the other?

01:59:02.000 There's a time and a place for both.

01:59:05.000 Alright, let's grab some more.

01:59:10.000 Let's see what we got.

01:59:11.000 We got so many.

01:59:12.000 Brian Beatty says, Twitter just suspended libs of TikTok.

01:59:15.000 Is that true?

01:59:15.000 That is true.

01:59:16.000 Oh, wow.

01:59:18.000 Holy cow. 0.89

01:59:19.000 That is big.

01:59:20.000 I am offended.

01:59:21.000 I am offended, Twitter.

01:59:23.000 For what?

01:59:24.000 Where's Elon Musk?

01:59:26.000 He hasn't tweeted in days.

01:59:27.000 Well, there was that thing that Twitter had, like, the new policy they put in, I think it was maybe even a year ago, where it's just like, if they're posting people in public spaces, And everyone always said this could be something that they might use to then just be able to remove accounts for violating sort of these types of things.

01:59:44.000 This could be that coming to roost.

01:59:47.000 I, uh, so we got some super jets.

01:59:49.000 I think there was a sound cancellation thing happening.

01:59:51.000 So it's happened to me before.

01:59:53.000 Yeah.

01:59:54.000 Uh, so I, I, I once did a Skype with somebody and for some reason we couldn't get the auto to work.

01:59:59.000 And then I can't remember exactly what the issue was, but it was something like this.

02:00:02.000 Orange red says the sound worked with headphones.

02:00:04.000 My audio worked the entire time.

02:00:06.000 Missed nothing.

02:00:07.000 I'm wondering what that was all about.

02:00:09.000 That some people weren't getting it.

02:00:10.000 Some people were, it was a cancellation.

02:00:12.000 So it was like, I want to say two different channels that are operating at the exact opposite frequencies.

02:00:16.000 Yeah.

02:00:17.000 Which cancels out noise if you're listening with headphones, not if you're listening with earphones.

02:00:21.000 Well, Orange Red says they were listening with headphones.

02:00:23.000 Interesting.

02:00:23.000 I don't know.

02:00:24.000 Something like this happened to me before.

02:00:26.000 It's weird.

02:00:26.000 Hey, I wanted to say too that Libs of TikTok was suspended by Twitter over quote, hateful conduct.

02:00:31.000 So I'm really curious if Elon Musk has anything to say about this.

02:00:34.000 That is so vague.

02:00:35.000 It is vague.

02:00:36.000 So darn vague.

02:00:38.000 All right, let's see. 0.97

02:00:39.000 We'll just grab a couple more here.

02:00:40.000 Fammy Whammy says, love your show.

02:00:42.000 Please limit Ian's weed intake beforehand.

02:00:44.000 Never.

02:00:45.000 Believe it or not, Ian does not smoke weed.

02:00:47.000 I've never seen him smoke weed.

02:00:48.000 No, no.

02:00:49.000 I would like you to see me smoke weed someday though.

02:00:52.000 Someone mentioned that Joe took down the Bill Maher episode.

02:00:54.000 Is that true?

02:00:55.000 That doesn't sound true.

02:00:56.000 I don't know.

02:00:57.000 I guess we can check that site.

02:00:59.000 All right.

02:00:59.000 Let's grab, uh, let's just grab one more.

02:01:02.000 Here we go.

02:01:03.000 Sparrow Rose says, Tonight is extra special to me.

02:01:06.000 Love, Jason and Colin.

02:01:08.000 And then someone says we need an audio person.

02:01:10.000 You know?

02:01:10.000 Yeah.

02:01:11.000 We have so many audio people working on that.

02:01:14.000 I know.

02:01:14.000 I think we've got an amazing rig.

02:01:17.000 Everything was tested three times and we have the entire Daily Wire production crew making this happen.

02:01:22.000 And then these things happen.

02:01:24.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:01:25.000 I was worried about it.

02:01:26.000 I was like, something's going to go wrong.

02:01:27.000 Yeah, space travel's amazing that they can do that.

02:01:30.000 They can send a spacecraft to Mars and everyone lives.

02:01:33.000 Well, the moon.

02:01:34.000 All things considered, it went well.

02:01:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:01:36.000 Well, I think, you know, it's weird that a lot of people are saying it was fine and some people are saying it wasn't, but we'll get it sorted for the podcast version.

02:01:45.000 Yeah, we'll figure it out.

02:01:45.000 And for the segments too, we'll get it fixed.

02:01:47.000 But everybody, if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends.

02:01:51.000 Today was awesome.

02:01:52.000 We're gonna have a special members-only show coming up at 11 p.m.

02:01:56.000 Eastern, so that will be up at TimCast.com for members only, because as members, I want you all to think, I want you to realize something.

02:02:04.000 CNN Plus reportedly only has 10,000 daily users.

02:02:07.000 That means we are bigger than them.

02:02:09.000 That means when you are a member of TimCast.com, you are part of an elite group of people that is better than CNN.

02:02:16.000 I know, I know, you don't need to be a member to be better than CNN.

02:02:18.000 It's not hard to do, but at least you can be a card-carrying member that is better than CNN.

02:02:22.000 So, no, I gotta say, in all seriousness, I am so grateful, honored, that you would be members of TimCast.com, to the point where I can tweet, TimCast.com is bigger than CNN Plus, because it's kind of just like, I despise the corporate press, the manipulation so much, to know that there is something bubbling up that just believes in honesty and to the best of our abilities, It makes me feel good.

02:02:47.000 So everybody, thanks so much for all your support.

02:02:49.000 Smash the like button.

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02:02:53.000 Jason, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:55.000 I do.

02:02:56.000 I gotta go to the bathroom.

02:02:57.000 My phone went dead.

02:03:01.000 I'm 54 years old.

02:03:02.000 I haven't peed in five hours.

02:03:05.000 It's time for me to pee, but thank you so much for having me.

02:03:10.000 And please check me out at Fearless with Jason Whitlock at BlazeTV and everywhere podcasts are.

02:03:16.000 Right on, man.

02:03:17.000 Thanks for coming.

02:03:18.000 We appreciate it.

02:03:18.000 Colin, you want to show anything else?

02:03:20.000 Yeah, you can follow me on Twitter at Swipe Right.

02:03:22.000 That's W-R-I-G-H-T. 1.00

02:03:23.000 And check out my website, realitieslaststand.com, for good commentary on sex and gender.

02:03:30.000 Right on.

02:03:30.000 Ian Crossland here.

02:03:31.000 Love you guys.

02:03:32.000 Love you guys.

02:03:32.000 Thank you so much for coming.

02:03:33.000 That was great.

02:03:34.000 Hopefully do it again soon.

02:03:35.000 Sooner or later, whatever.

02:03:36.000 Do it again.

02:03:37.000 Anytime you're in Nashville, hit me up.

02:03:39.000 Thank you guys all for tuning in on this super fun night and for bearing with our sound issues.

02:03:43.000 I will try to fix those.

02:03:45.000 I'm sure we'll have no issue with it.

02:03:47.000 You guys may follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at Sour Patchlets as well as SourPatchlets.me.

02:03:52.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com in just about an hour.

02:03:56.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 13, 2022

Timcast IRL - Ben Shapiro And The Daily Wire TAKES OVER TIMCAST w-Jason Whitlock & Colin Wright

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