Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Canadian Court BANS HONKING, State Of Emergency Declared w-Greg Price

00:00:00.000 I'm David Pakman.

00:00:17.000 I kid you not, they have banned honking your horn.

00:00:21.000 Wow.

00:00:22.000 It's kind of crazy to think the honking is working.

00:00:24.000 That's it.

00:00:25.000 Literally just pulling up in a car and going, honk honk, has the entire political establishment losing their minds.

00:00:31.000 People pretending to get hit by trucks falling over and flopping on the ground in the streets.

00:00:35.000 And, according to reporting from Andy Ngo, actually having Antifa get in SUVs and hit people.

00:00:41.000 Man, the honking really is making these people lose their minds.

00:00:43.000 But if you watch the videos, it's regular people.

00:00:45.000 They're celebrating, they're dancing, and they're saying no.

00:00:48.000 And it's spreading.

00:00:49.000 Now there's rumors circulating, at least I think it's Rolling Stone reporting this, that Republicans want truckers to shut down the Super Bowl.

00:00:57.000 Okay.

00:00:58.000 Well, we'll get into all that stuff.

00:00:59.000 There's a lot going on with The Great Honkening.

00:01:01.000 You've got police arresting people, seizing gas cans, so this will be an interesting subject to talk about.

00:01:06.000 We also have Rumble, the video platform offering Joe Rogan 100 million dollars!

00:01:13.000 Over four years to leave Spotify and join their platform.

00:01:17.000 I believe they have the funds to do this.

00:01:19.000 They had that special purpose acquisition company merger thing.

00:01:21.000 They're going to be getting about 400 million.

00:01:22.000 It's been reported.

00:01:24.000 But I don't see why Joe would leave the platform.

00:01:28.000 I just don't see why he would do it for the same amount of money.

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00:01:44.000 But we'll talk about everything that's going on there.

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00:02:47.000 What's up Canada?

00:02:48.000 I'm with you tonight, baby.

00:02:50.000 You're 500 miles away and I hear you loud and clear.

00:02:53.000 I'm loving all this talk of the honking.

00:02:55.000 I'm really excited to hear more about what's going on in Canada.

00:02:57.000 It is a little bit dark at the moment, but hopefully it brightens up.

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00:05:49.000 FromTheWeek.com Court issues 10-day ban on honking in downtown Ottawa.

00:05:57.000 A Canadian judge issued a 10-day injunction Monday banning protesting truckers from honking their horns in downtown Ottawa.

00:06:05.000 Quote, Tooting a horn is not an expression of any great thought I'm aware of, Justice Hugh McLean of the Ottawa Superior Court said.

00:06:14.000 He also said the ban on honking would not rob demonstrators of their right to protest.

00:06:18.000 A convoy of truckers and other demonstrators protesting Canada's COVID-19 policies entered on January 29th, where they've been for some time.

00:06:24.000 Let me just, let me just answer, you know, respond to this here Justice Hugh McLean.

00:06:29.000 Honking absolutely is an expression of a great thought. 0.96

00:06:34.000 He doesn't understand memes.

00:06:37.000 But more importantly, the state.

00:06:38.000 This is Canada, by the way. 0.97

00:06:39.000 It's not the US, so they can have their backwards garbage policies or whatever. 0.79

00:06:43.000 The state should not be deciding what is someone's expression. 0.88

00:06:47.000 What comes next?

00:06:48.000 Now people are saying, I'll just yell honk.

00:06:50.000 I'll just get a megaphone and just yell honk into it.

00:06:54.000 Okay, well, I think this is ridiculous, but I will say it shows the great honking has worked. 0.67

00:07:00.000 It's worked to the point where a court has had to issue one of the most ridiculous injunctions I've ever heard of. 0.69

00:07:07.000 Honking is forbidden.

00:07:08.000 Sounds like they're going to try and get them out of there now in the next 10 days.

00:07:11.000 They're like, let's buy ourselves a little time.

00:07:13.000 We'll see if we can get them out.

00:07:14.000 If they can't, nine and a half days from now, they'll issue another ban for 10 more days or whatever.

00:07:18.000 You know, only 15 days to slow the spread of these truckers all around the country.

00:07:24.000 I just, I just think it's funny because it's Canada.

00:07:27.000 It's Canada.

00:07:28.000 Honking is banned.

00:07:29.000 It's just, it's worked on so many levels, right?

00:07:30.000 First, people are posting memes where they're like, who would have thought the answer to clown world would have been honking?

00:07:35.000 I know.

00:07:36.000 It's just so good.

00:07:37.000 And then you have, it's happening in Canada of all places and they got the goose.

00:07:40.000 Yeah.

00:07:41.000 So it's just like, we, we, we, we live in some kind of constructed reality.

00:07:45.000 I got a simulation.

00:07:46.000 Let me put this on the table.

00:07:48.000 I, I've been thinking a lot about this.

00:07:50.000 Honking is, it can be very, You could argue that it's a kind of violence.

00:07:55.000 Noise weapons are real.

00:07:57.000 You can destroy someone with excessive amounts of noise.

00:07:59.000 You can hurt someone with that.

00:08:01.000 The CIA knows it.

00:08:02.000 They work with those things.

00:08:04.000 So a lot of noise can be weaponized.

00:08:09.000 So apparently these people are honking and they're violating maybe civil rights noise violations.

00:08:13.000 But for the Canadian government to start to violate their human rights of like Food and fuel seems like that's stoking the bear.

00:08:22.000 The great Canadian bear.

00:08:23.000 Well, this is a Canadian government that, as we know, was seizing their gasoline, too.

00:08:28.000 There's this uprising of workers, and it's pissing off the people in power in Canada, and it seems that they'll go to great lengths in order to shut them up.

00:08:39.000 Yeah, no, I mean, I agree with you.

00:08:40.000 They're basically placing sanctions on these people, and then they're arguing that honking is an act of violence.

00:08:46.000 Honk.

00:08:47.000 So I was gonna say, Ian, I think you're not quite rolling a 1 on this one.

00:08:53.000 You got like a 3 or something?

00:08:54.000 No, maybe a 10.

00:08:55.000 You know, I think there's a guy who's got a train horn and people are laughing about it because it's triggering people.

00:09:02.000 I'm like, dude, I gotta be honest, the train horn might be a little much.

00:09:06.000 Like, honking your horn is honking your horn.

00:09:07.000 Everybody's got one.

00:09:08.000 But mounting a train horn to a vehicle and then blaring it like...

00:09:13.000 Yeah, I mean, that's not helping your cause out.

00:09:16.000 Honking your horn is annoying.

00:09:18.000 Protests, as AOC says, are supposed to make people uncomfortable.

00:09:21.000 So honking your horn, hey man, more power to you.

00:09:24.000 If they say, hey guy, you brought a train horn to downtown Ottawa, I'd be like, yeah, dude, that's like, come on, that's a little much, isn't it?

00:09:31.000 I mean, it's funny, but...

00:09:33.000 It's when all the trucks come together, they create like a mega horn, which is like way worse than a- well, way louder than a train horn.

00:09:39.000 I- I'm- I don't know what to do, because I support these truckers.

00:09:42.000 Implicitly.

00:09:43.000 I mean, if- I'm thinking- I want to- I want to help the cause, but I will still acknowledge that this noise can be used as a form of violence.

00:09:51.000 And so I understand kind of both sides of this.

00:09:53.000 Yeah, I don't- Hold on, hold on.

00:09:55.000 What do you mean by violence?

00:09:57.000 Like if I take a big loud speaker and put it next to your head and you have to do it, you'll be like, ah!

00:10:00.000 And then it'll hurt your hearing, and then it might even start to make you angry, which makes you stressed.

00:10:06.000 Well, it can be really annoying, but it's not like the truckers are going, he supports the mandates, get him!

00:10:09.000 And then putting their head next to the horn and honking.

00:10:11.000 So they go deaf. 0.98

00:10:12.000 I mean, they're honking their horns in a way that makes people uncomfortable.

00:10:15.000 You also have to consider is that these truckers themselves are here day in and day out, and it's going to get annoying to them on some level.

00:10:23.000 So I think they can self-regulate here.

00:10:25.000 I think it's insane that the Canadian government would tell them they're not able to express themselves in this way.

00:10:29.000 Like I could see if you're a citizen in Ottawa and living in downtown Ottawa and all day, every day, all you hear is honk, honk, honk.

00:10:34.000 I could see how that would get annoying at the same time.

00:10:37.000 It's not like they're burning your buildings down like in other protests that we've seen before.

00:10:42.000 So I could see how that would be annoying.

00:10:44.000 But did the government step in like this in the summer of 2020 in Canada or in the United States?

00:10:49.000 No, because that would be fascist.

00:10:50.000 How bad was the riding in Canada though?

00:10:52.000 I honestly don't know.

00:10:53.000 Well, the movement was everywhere.

00:10:55.000 Yeah.

00:10:55.000 Might not have been as bad as America, but... Was Black Canadian Lives Matter, like, smashing windows and burning buildings down or anything like that?

00:11:01.000 Probably not as bad as America, but the movement was, you know... But, you know, again, it's the politics behind this.

00:11:07.000 I don't think, you know... I just searched Ottawa on Twitter.

00:11:11.000 I saw this video, I think yesterday, which is what brought this up in my mind, is a guy in Ottawa got his video and was like, hey guys, just so you know, this is what it's like all day.

00:11:18.000 And it's like, just non-stop.

00:11:21.000 So I understand, I would go freaking crazy if all of a sudden, whatever, Vax run, I'd support a run, all of a sudden just maddening noise all around me.

00:11:31.000 Yeah, you know, I don't care.

00:11:32.000 You wanna know why?

00:11:33.000 The insurance companies will pay for it.

00:11:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:35.000 So if you get ear damage, you got insurance.

00:11:37.000 What's the problem?

00:11:38.000 It's a language of the unheard.

00:11:39.000 heard.

00:11:40.000 The hunk.

00:11:41.000 Medical insurance.

00:11:42.000 That's not actually, I don't agree with that. 0.92

00:11:44.000 That's a ridiculous notion.

00:11:45.000 But I don't actually care about the discomfort of these people because as the government 0.89

00:11:51.000 was ruling by decree, they sat back and said, sure.

00:11:54.000 And then when the government started cracking down on the truckers,

00:11:57.000 imposing will by decree on them, and the trucker said stop, the people sat in their homes and said,

00:12:03.000 hey, I'm not getting involved.

00:12:04.000 I don't care they're doing it to you.

00:12:05.000 In fact, I'll vote for them and empower them and pay them money

00:12:08.000 and ensure they can keep putting their boot on your neck.

00:12:10.000 And then the trucker said, I'm gonna toot.

00:12:12.000 Yeah.

00:12:12.000 Honk, honk.

00:12:13.000 And now they're like, stop honking!

00:12:15.000 No, sorry, buddy.

00:12:16.000 And Ian, I mean, you're absolutely right that it is extremely annoying, and if these people were outside of my window honking, I would be annoyed as well, but at the same time, if it's a question of whether we're gonna allow a group of people to be annoyed or allow a group of people to have their rights violated, I'm gonna choose to let those people be annoyed.

00:12:30.000 Yeah, you said, that was pretty insightful, what you said just a second ago, Tim, about how, like, because I'm thinking about how the German citizens, when they supported, just allowed the Nazis to do their thing and just stood by and let it happen.

00:12:39.000 When the Allied troops came in there, they didn't...

00:12:41.000 You know, those people, they had to sit by and listen to the honking.

00:12:44.000 They weren't allowed to be like, stop!

00:12:45.000 You know, you sit by and watch tyranny take hold.

00:12:49.000 Get ready to face some repercussions.

00:12:50.000 It's not just that.

00:12:51.000 It's a lot of these people are voting in these politicians over and over again.

00:12:55.000 Like, they vote for Trudeau.

00:12:57.000 They vote for the people who are putting in place these mandates.

00:12:59.000 So it's like, listen.

00:13:01.000 We want you to hear the repercussions of your actions.

00:13:05.000 Elections have consequences.

00:13:07.000 Ottawa votes for these people.

00:13:09.000 I'm sorry.

00:13:10.000 You know what's funny?

00:13:10.000 I'll tell you this.

00:13:11.000 The people who live in Ottawa, who don't vote for this, are outside dancing in the streets, cheering on the trucks and the protests.

00:13:20.000 That's the people who live in Ottawa.

00:13:23.000 I'm not going to pretend like I live there.

00:13:24.000 I've watched some of the live streams.

00:13:25.000 I've watched Viva Frye. 0.90

00:13:25.000 He's got a great stream. 0.90

00:13:27.000 And I've seen a lot of the videos.

00:13:28.000 And there's people with Canadian flags jumping up and down.

00:13:30.000 They're celebrating.

00:13:30.000 These are people who live in the city.

00:13:32.000 The people who are screaming and complaining about the honking are the people who did vote for Trudeau and don't support the truckers.

00:13:40.000 I don't care if, look, if you come out and say that you voted for Joe Biden, I'm going to be like, okay, well, now you're going to be uncomfortable for having supported a man who's caused all of these problems for us.

00:13:54.000 The death of the civilians in Afghanistan, the rising gas prices, the failing economy.

00:13:59.000 There's some good things about the economy, but you can't come out and be like, we lost two million jobs and brought back 1.5, so we're doing great!

00:14:05.000 Like, no, you're doing bad.

00:14:06.000 And if you want to come out and be like, you supported him, then I'll be like, prepare to be uncomfortable as I protest the guy you voted in.

00:14:12.000 Yeah, no, I mean, I think that when you're looking at this situation, And these mandates and the fact that these people were completely in favor of them and that's resulted in these protests and now they're really upset by the honking.

00:14:28.000 You kind of have to put it in perspective.

00:14:30.000 Ultimately, what's going to make their lives worse?

00:14:32.000 The hyperinflation which is occurring because we decided to print trillions of dollars, the broken supply chains, the fact that it's more difficult to get food.

00:14:40.000 It's true, but also our economies are really interconnected and if the dollar isn't doing as strongly and we're not trading with them as much or the supply chain is broken down in our country, that's going to affect their lives too.

00:14:49.000 And a couple horns honking outside your window day in and day out for as long as this protest lasts is not going to have as much of a negative effect on their lives in the long term.

00:14:58.000 The other thing you have to think about is like the people doing the honking and the protesting.

00:15:01.000 These are the people who during the pandemic, while everyone was, all them were staying inside.

00:15:05.000 These were the people who were, you know, bringing you your packages to your door, bringing the supplies everywhere.

00:15:10.000 That was probably more annoying than just hearing some honks every day.

00:15:12.000 I'm sure they're right.

00:15:13.000 Dude, it's, it's, it's amazing.

00:15:15.000 These are, these are people who sit inside, vote for politicians who lock everything down and then demand the government just gives them money.

00:15:21.000 Yeah, I saw a tweet from this girl, I don't remember who, but it was like a journalist, and she was like, who do we have to appeal to to save us from this?

00:15:28.000 Was basically the tweet, and I'm like, there's a mindset in humanity of like, where is daddy to save me?

00:15:35.000 Who's gonna come fix this?

00:15:36.000 And it's like, dude, you fix it.

00:15:38.000 It's you.

00:15:39.000 Seriously.

00:15:40.000 These people love to be like, I'm going to vote for the authority to do whatever they want.

00:15:45.000 Then go and sit back and say, solve my problems for me.

00:15:49.000 That vote causes problems for everybody else who are now dancing in the street and honking horns, not even smashing windows or anything like that.

00:15:56.000 And now these people are crying about it.

00:15:57.000 Dude, I have very little sympathy.

00:15:59.000 I'm sorry, man.

00:16:00.000 That's just reality.

00:16:01.000 These people need to live in the real world.

00:16:04.000 We've talked about the fourth turning.

00:16:06.000 We've talked about hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times weak men, et cetera.

00:16:11.000 And this is the problem with a lot of these people who live in these big cities.

00:16:14.000 They want everything done for them. 0.93

00:16:17.000 They get paid ridiculous salaries for ridiculous jobs. 0.96

00:16:20.000 Not everybody, but a lot of them. 0.96

00:16:22.000 Like in New York, it's really bad, but there's a lot of city jobs that make no sense.

00:16:26.000 And they've just not experienced any real hardship.

00:16:29.000 This is the first time in... I think about how crazy this is.

00:16:31.000 There's that video of the guy who looks like the pregnant man emoji. 0.52

00:16:34.000 Have you seen this?

00:16:34.000 He's wearing the blue jacket and he's got like the belly.

00:16:37.000 So people have put the pregnant man emoji on him.

00:16:39.000 And he's like, I can't sleep!

00:16:41.000 I'm losing my mind or whatever.

00:16:43.000 And it's like, bro, calm down.

00:16:46.000 You know, you know, you know, this is the reason why I have very little sympathy is probably because I lived, I lived on a busy street and I hear honking all day, every day, nonstop.

00:16:55.000 But I've also experienced, you know, actual hardship.

00:16:58.000 And so when I hear people screaming and crying about honking, I'm like, geez.

00:17:01.000 Yeah.

00:17:02.000 Where did they grow up?

00:17:03.000 Inside like a fluffy padded room that was like pastel colors with animals painted on the wall?

00:17:07.000 The West.

00:17:08.000 Well, that's a very interesting point because Ottawa is one of the richest cities in Canada.

00:17:13.000 And so, for months, at least in the United States, you had BLM burning down some of the most impoverished neighborhoods in the country and making life impossible for the people who live there.

00:17:22.000 And our media thought that that was just fine.

00:17:24.000 But now, when working-class people go into an upper-class neighborhood and honk their horns too loudly for too long, it's a nightmare. 0.99

00:17:31.000 I will say, as much as it is a different country, our culture completely overlaps.

00:17:36.000 Exactly.

00:17:36.000 So you've got American leftist journalists who are on the side of the government of Canada, and then you've got American libertarian, conservative, moderate, post-liberals who are on the side of the great hunkening.

00:17:50.000 I genuinely believe You know, 90 plus percent of people support the hunkening.

00:17:55.000 You know, you're never gonna convince me.

00:17:57.000 Because I look at the comments on Reddit, even the astroturfing isn't working.

00:18:00.000 And I'm just like, I'm sorry, man.

00:18:02.000 I just won't believe that actual, grassroots, regular leftists, I don't mean online personalities, regular people, that if you go to them and say, how do you feel about the workers rising up?

00:18:13.000 They'd be like, oh, that's pretty cool.

00:18:14.000 How do you feel about the truckers rising up?

00:18:15.000 Glad they're rising up against the establishment.

00:18:18.000 Yeah, no, and that's sort of my point, even though yes, obviously this is occurring in a different country, our media is going to empathize with the upper class people who are being inconvenienced in Canada more so than they would lower class people in the United States having their actual business burnt down.

00:18:31.000 Well, I mean, it goes to show that the media speaks for the interests of, you know, the ruling class and the powerful.

00:18:37.000 And even in Canada, where the media is actually controlled by the government, like, the media are actual government entities.

00:18:42.000 So, you know, in that case, they're actually on the side of the government.

00:18:46.000 And, like, I was looking at some of the coverage in Canadian media and I was like, Yeah, you can really tell.

00:18:51.000 It's amazing.

00:18:52.000 One of the first articles we read on the show, it was like, the far-right group that has been known for vandalism and stealing food from the homeless.

00:18:59.000 Exactly, exactly.

00:19:01.000 Dude, that's just not true.

00:19:03.000 Now there's this story.

00:19:04.000 Did you guys hear about these guys trying to break into a building and burn it down with people inside?

00:19:08.000 No.

00:19:08.000 And these left-wing activists, many Americans, well, quote-unquote journalists, are trying to claim that it's definitive and proven.

00:19:16.000 Bro, it's a video of two guys.

00:19:17.000 We don't know who they are.

00:19:18.000 They walk in a building, set fire or something on the ground, and then tape the door shut and leave.

00:19:22.000 That's crazy!

00:19:23.000 Arrest those guys.

00:19:24.000 But then they're just like, this proves it!

00:19:26.000 Let's talk about what the cops are doing.

00:19:28.000 We got this story from TimCast.com.

00:19:30.000 Police seize fuel and supplies from protesters in Ottawa Freedom Convoy.

00:19:35.000 Multiple vehicles and fuel have been seized, police said, as they extend their efforts to end the Freedom Convoy.

00:19:42.000 Basically, they're now saying anybody who brings in fuel is going to be aiding them.

00:19:47.000 It's illegal.

00:19:48.000 Anybody who provides material support.

00:19:50.000 And there's even an insinuation by Trudeau that Americans are interfering and they want to look into where this funding is coming from.

00:19:58.000 Well, I don't know what Canada is going to be able to do to an American who gave five bucks on Give, Send, Go.

00:20:03.000 I just don't see them pulling anything off.

00:20:05.000 But yo, how insane is this getting?

00:20:08.000 They declared a state of emergency in Ottawa.

00:20:12.000 You know, I saw a story, I don't know if it's true, that Ottawa cops are exempt from the vaccine mandates.

00:20:18.000 This is how they play the game.

00:20:20.000 The enforcers get special acts.

00:20:22.000 It's like the Hunger Games, man.

00:20:25.000 Wow.

00:20:26.000 Yeah.

00:20:28.000 No, nothing to say.

00:20:29.000 No way.

00:20:29.000 Oh, geez.

00:20:30.000 So much to say.

00:20:32.000 How do I even start to take it all in?

00:20:36.000 Every now and again, it's kind of like a Mexican standoff here.

00:20:38.000 We're looking around.

00:20:38.000 Who's going to say something first?

00:20:40.000 How do you talk about civil disobedience?

00:20:41.000 Like, OK, what they're doing is civilly illegal, probably.

00:20:45.000 Illegal.

00:20:46.000 What the hell does that even mean?

00:20:47.000 Illegal.

00:20:48.000 What was crazy to me was seeing the brand account for the Ottawa Police Department cheering on GoFundMe's decision to take this money away from the truckers.

00:20:57.000 You have this unholy alliance of the government, law enforcement, big corporations, and then you have these who are just taking away the rights of working class people.

00:21:10.000 And you know, we complain about a lot, a lot about that in America, but man, like it's, it's crazy.

00:21:14.000 Yeah.

00:21:14.000 Like the Ottawa police just cheering this on.

00:21:16.000 Is there a word for that?

00:21:18.000 When the government and big corporations are working together to control?

00:21:23.000 Yeah, there's a word.

00:21:24.000 Yeah.

00:21:25.000 Something like that.

00:21:26.000 Something like fascism.

00:21:27.000 The F word.

00:21:28.000 The F word, yeah.

00:21:29.000 I think you're thinking about the F word.

00:21:31.000 Yeah, so earlier you mentioned how Canadian media is basically controlled by the government.

00:21:35.000 One thing I find very disturbing is that with the United States media, we do have media which is controlled by private corporations, but honestly, can you imagine it acting all that differently if it was controlled and regulated by the government?

00:21:49.000 They continually cheer for bigger government.

00:21:51.000 They insult people and they smear them for calling for more freedom and calling for the restrictions the government imposes upon the average person to end.

00:21:58.000 And when you look at the situation in Canada, like I mentioned, it's clear that our private media is more sympathetic to their state media in Canada and the views that they hold than they are to the views of the actual people of our country or theirs!

00:22:10.000 Bro, there's no mask anymore.

00:22:13.000 It's funny when... The mandate, the mask mandate is over.

00:22:16.000 No, I mean, I mean the figurative mask that we ever assumed the media was on our side.

00:22:21.000 I'm done having that conversation.

00:22:23.000 It's been 10 years.

00:22:25.000 Anybody who still thinks the media is telling the truth is probably lying to you, to be completely honest.

00:22:29.000 Like, even regular people, when you ask them, like the press rates abysmally low in terms of credibility.

00:22:37.000 There was this funny poll from a few years ago and it was like, who do you trust?

00:22:40.000 Like, how much trust do you give these institutions?

00:22:41.000 And the press was on the bottom at like 17%.

00:22:44.000 When, um, what's his name?

00:22:45.000 Glenn Greenwald got booted out of The Intercept.

00:22:48.000 That was a big, like, red light for me.

00:22:51.000 That, that, it's that structure of that, that old media thing doesn't work anymore.

00:22:55.000 You can't be honest in that situation because there's too many corporate donors trying to get a hold of your you and your money.

00:23:00.000 Yeah.

00:23:01.000 So like it's not even that just that they're biased to one side of the political aisle.

00:23:05.000 They're beholden to corporate interests.

00:23:07.000 A lot of these media outlets and a lot of the time corporate, you know, as we said before, there's this unholy alliance between government in America and big corporations.

00:23:15.000 And the media is a part of that.

00:23:16.000 You have like an institution like The Washington Post that's owned by the second richest man in the world.

00:23:21.000 Yeah.

00:23:22.000 And, you know, obviously, obviously their coverage is going to not reflect the views of, you know, people in working class people in Ohio or working class truckers speaking out against these mandates.

00:23:34.000 You know, they support all these things.

00:23:35.000 You know how I see it?

00:23:37.000 I'm like thinking about the media and it reminds me of those movie tropes where it's like there's a wife and then her husband runs up and she has a gun and he's like, honey it's me put down the gun and then all of a sudden another like clone of her husband runs to the other side he's like no no no I'm your real husband and she's like I don't know which one is real I don't know where that trope came from like the original movie But it feels like there's like a normie regular American sitting on their couch and we run in and we're like, we're telling you the truth.

00:24:04.000 We're challenging the lies.

00:24:05.000 And then, you know, Brian Seltzer runs and he goes, don't listen to them.

00:24:07.000 We're, we're the truth.

00:24:09.000 They're telling you lies.

00:24:10.000 That's exactly how it works.

00:24:11.000 I feel sorry for you.

00:24:13.000 It's true.

00:24:15.000 And I think it's funny because for years and years, right after Trump was elected, the narrative was, you know, everything was fine.

00:24:22.000 People trusted the media.

00:24:23.000 We had a great relationship with the public.

00:24:25.000 And then ol' DT came along and made him hate us with all of his rhetoric about how bad the media is.

00:24:31.000 It was like, well, no, you guys were already pretty terrible, and mostly politicians were willing to bend the knee to you, and then one came around who wasn't, and it opened your eyes to how unpopular you are, because the reason most people, or at the very least many people, are cheering for Donald Trump was because you hated him and he hated you, and that meant that he was more on your side than theirs.

00:24:48.000 uh... and i'd just love to see their their narrative crumble with each turn

00:24:52.000 you're sure i'm talking about how canada is much more authoritarian than the u s

00:24:55.000 but the fact that the people of that country have formed literally the

00:24:59.000 largest convoy that we have ever been aware of in human history

00:25:03.000 to protest their government's mandates is really incredible it's a giant white 1.00

00:25:07.000 pill there was a big convoy of uh... diesel trucks by thousand years ago

00:25:12.000 yes of course not And I understand it's a more recent phenomenon with the trucks, but also the largest convoy before this was like five miles.

00:25:20.000 And now this is 45 miles.

00:25:22.000 Donald Trump demonized and attacked the media because people hate them.

00:25:27.000 Because people got access to the internet and it was like the knowledge was beamed down to the people.

00:25:32.000 And then all of a sudden they were like, hey, wait a minute.

00:25:33.000 They're lying to us about everything.

00:25:35.000 And then Trump was like, that's right.

00:25:38.000 Trump is a symptom of, not the creator of, but of course the media is now saying Donald Trump He started all of this?

00:25:44.000 In 2007, I was doing YouTube videos a lot and I was getting real political.

00:25:47.000 I was like, we need direct to the politician now.

00:25:49.000 We have internet video.

00:25:50.000 We don't need secret service.

00:25:52.000 Putin and Barack Obama could get on a video chat and just talk, hang out and chill.

00:25:56.000 I could get on a video chat with Barack.

00:25:57.000 No security issues.

00:25:58.000 We just chat.

00:25:59.000 So we need that more.

00:26:00.000 And I was telling it to YouTube and the people at the YouTube corporate headquarters was listening and they were like, yeah, let's do YouTube debates.

00:26:07.000 So they created this thing, but then CNN getting in on it.

00:26:09.000 Really?

00:26:10.000 Of course.

00:26:10.000 We're gonna do the CNN YouTube debates and we're gonna water down all your questions.

00:26:14.000 So I asked Barack, like, what's up with the Federal Reserve?

00:26:17.000 Why do we have this system in place that's been robbing, creating interest?

00:26:19.000 And I was talking about fractional reserve and they didn't air it.

00:26:23.000 They wouldn't air that.

00:26:24.000 They aired all these softball questions.

00:26:25.000 So CNN was the second guy.

00:26:26.000 And he's like, no, I'm your husband.

00:26:28.000 Ian, what was his response to that?

00:26:30.000 Brock?

00:26:31.000 He didn't hear it.

00:26:32.000 Oh, he didn't even hear it.

00:26:33.000 Okay, so you're saying CNN didn't give him the question.

00:26:35.000 I thought you had an opportunity to digitally ask the questions.

00:26:37.000 Remember they did those town halls and all of the people in the town hall turned out to be Democrat operatives?

00:26:42.000 Yeah.

00:26:43.000 Or like activists or whatever?

00:26:45.000 And I mean, who's surprised by it?

00:26:47.000 Even the presidential debates, when they actually have their quote-unquote opposition across from them, it's just a press conference anyway.

00:26:53.000 The person throws their slogans out there and then their opponent throws their slogans out there.

00:26:57.000 Yeah, but did you hear Republicans are now going to boycott the Commission on Debates debates?

00:27:02.000 Really?

00:27:02.000 So there's probably not going to be a debate unless the Democrats come to them for a debate.

00:27:06.000 This idea of a debate also bothers me.

00:27:08.000 Now we're at a place where you can pop on Skype or whatever and video chat Monday through Friday from 6 p.m.

00:27:14.000 to 7 p.m.

00:27:15.000 with whoever you want.

00:27:16.000 And everyone can watch.

00:27:17.000 Come on, 21st century.

00:27:18.000 Yeah, shows like this one have really, really changed the game.

00:27:22.000 We were going to talk about Joe Rogan soon.

00:27:28.000 Shows like yours, shows like Rogan's, shows like Tucker Carlson's that draw all of these eyeballs because they don't bend to institutional powers in corporate media are a threat to those, are a threat.

00:27:37.000 And obviously you've been targeted with cancel culture and obviously the cancel culture knives have come out for Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson.

00:27:43.000 The only reason for it is because instead of telling the truth, these institutional powers have now chosen that they're just going to pressure corporations to censor their opposition.

00:27:52.000 Do you notice a lot of corporate interference when you're working with like just candidacy and like positioning your candidates on social media and stuff?

00:27:59.000 Do you feel like pushback from corporations while you're doing it?

00:28:02.000 Do you have to navigate through that kind of thing?

00:28:04.000 Well, I mean, no, because we wouldn't really work with anybody who is so beholden to corporate powers.

00:28:09.000 Like we don't obviously we were a company of seven people and we would never we would never do that.

00:28:13.000 And, you know, what's what's what really what really sucks is that like there are a lot of members of Congress that I'm sure most Republicans probably like.

00:28:20.000 and respect a lot who take a lot of money from big tech and take a lot of money from and and so they

00:28:26.000 and part of the reason i think he's asking if with the candidates you work with are they being

00:28:30.000 censored and shut down oh yeah yeah we have to face that all the time and it's it's on

00:28:34.000 So one of the clients that we work with is American Principles Project.

00:28:39.000 Shout out to Terry Schilling and John Schweppe.

00:28:41.000 And before we worked with them, this happened during the last election cycle, but they had their Facebook demonetized because they ran an ad in Michigan that opposed biological men and women's sports.

00:28:52.000 And the way Facebook works is, in order to get a fact check, a fact checker actually has to write Fact-check of your thing. So some and obviously the fact-checkers

00:28:59.000 are complete liars like these politicizing But so a fact-checker wrote a fact-check on an ad that

00:29:05.000 opposed biological men and women's force and they got their Facebook account to monetize 0.97

00:29:08.000 For that and so it's stuff like that that happens all the time. It's it's it's remarkable that I mean

00:29:14.000 It's it we're in an amalgam of all these different dystopian novels

00:29:19.000 It's like all of these writers could see a piece, but not the whole.

00:29:22.000 Because, you know, in this instance, it's very, uh, the fact checkers are keeping us from knowing things.

00:29:29.000 The major corporations are, uh, you know, stifling free enterprise.

00:29:33.000 It's like, it's like the inversion of everything.

00:29:34.000 War is peace, you know, et cetera, et cetera. 0.94

00:29:37.000 No, yeah, that's absolutely true. 0.98

00:29:38.000 They want to be able to dictate the public narrative, and when there's threats out there that are drawing all of the eyeballs away from them, they get scared, and because they're weak and pathetic, they go straight for censorship. 0.98

00:29:51.000 Let's carry on. 0.86

00:29:52.000 We do have a lot to talk about with the great honking and what's going to be happening in the U.S., but let's carry this conversation forward, talking about what's going on with Joe Rogan.

00:29:59.000 We have this story from TimCast.com.

00:30:01.000 Rumble publicly offers Joe Rogan $100 million for a four-year censorship-free contract.

00:30:08.000 Rumble posted, Hey Joe Rogan, we are ready to fight alongside you, saying, How about you bring all of your shows to Rumble, both old and new, with no censorship, for $100 million over four years?

00:30:19.000 This is our chance to save the world, and yes, this is totally legit.

00:30:23.000 Based on the reporting about Rumble's special purpose acquisition company, $2.1 billion valuation, and potentially $400 million in liquid cash to spend, I think they could do this But I don't see why Joe Rogan would do this, because it would be basically him saying that he wants to say the N-word.

00:30:41.000 That's the issue right now.

00:30:43.000 So it's like, not a good time to offer Joe Rogan $100 million for a censorship-free contract, because the issue at hand is that Joe himself, according to Spotify CEO, is the one who took down all of the episodes last Friday.

00:30:56.000 But that apology video, man, that Joe put out was a mistake.

00:30:59.000 It's making everything worse, and perhaps the issue is... When people say Joe has F.U.

00:31:04.000 money, maybe it means F.U.

00:31:06.000 to everybody.

00:31:07.000 And a lot of people who are libertarian, freedom-loving, uh, you know, who want honest integrity, assume Joe is on their side, when in reality, Joe is just Joe, and just... is an honest guy.

00:31:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:31:19.000 Yeah, he's doing his own thing and doesn't necessarily have a particular ideology.

00:31:22.000 Sort of what you're saying.

00:31:23.000 Like he's like, obviously I am offended by the lies of the mainstream press and I'll call them out.

00:31:31.000 And I stand for that.

00:31:32.000 Joe is offended.

00:31:33.000 They lied about him and lie often, but isn't interested in getting involved in a fight to change the future of media.

00:31:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:31:41.000 I'm not saying that's true.

00:31:43.000 He's not a hero.

00:31:44.000 Like, don't, don't put this guy on a pedestal.

00:31:45.000 He's just a dude doing his life, man.

00:31:48.000 Which also goes to show like how just ridiculous the attacks against him are because his, like what is his show?

00:31:52.000 They're unfiltered conversations for about three hours at a time with people of all different opinions, political persuasions.

00:31:59.000 It's not even all political.

00:32:00.000 And so the fact that, you know, big institutional powers find this guy a threat who just has unfiltered conversations with people.

00:32:07.000 Yeah.

00:32:08.000 Well, one thing lefties do, and I'm not exactly sure how, if this has been the case with the Joe Rogan experience, but I would be very surprised if it wasn't, because it's something you've dealt with.

00:32:16.000 It's something that virtually every large political show that I'm aware of or has spoken about this, has dealt with.

00:32:21.000 But left-wing people will refuse to do a podcast if it's hosted too many right-wing people.

00:32:28.000 And so then you only have people who are moderate or on the right doing the podcast.

00:32:32.000 No lefties do it. 1.00

00:32:32.000 And then lefties go, Oh my gosh, why aren't we being represented? 1.00

00:32:35.000 Why can't our viewers You're close.

00:32:38.000 It's not that it's too many right-wing people.

00:32:40.000 It's that the host has an opinion contrary to the establishment.

00:32:44.000 Yes, all right.

00:32:44.000 Fair enough.

00:32:45.000 And so they'll go, I'm not going to go on this podcast.

00:32:47.000 And so I am sure, and again, I can't say for certain.

00:32:50.000 I don't know.

00:32:50.000 I don't speak for Joe Rogan, but I'm sure that there's a lot of left-wing people who absolutely could do the Joe Rogan experience and let the audience know what their opinions are.

00:32:57.000 But they see Joe Rogan as a non-person. 0.89

00:33:00.000 He's an evil bigot.

00:33:01.000 So why even engage with him or his audience?

00:33:03.000 Kyle Kalinske said that in his episode Joe never used a slur, but he was very critical of Saudi Arabia and Spotify has just opened up their market to Saudi Arabia.

00:33:14.000 Some people said that Joe mentioned a song lyric with a slur in it.

00:33:17.000 I don't know.

00:33:18.000 You know, Kyle Kalinske said there was no slur in it.

00:33:21.000 We also have these tweets from Adam Kokesh where he said Joe basically told him Spotify is not allowing him on the show and that they took down his show because they had too much misinformation in it.

00:33:31.000 That sounds to me like That does not sound true, to be completely honest.

00:33:35.000 Like, I don't see Joe Rogan as the kind of guy to, like, call somebody up and be like, dude, I'm so sorry to take your episode down.

00:33:40.000 It's because it was misinformation.

00:33:41.000 Like, those are words that Joe doesn't or probably won't use.

00:33:44.000 So maybe the real issue is that Joe did talk to Adam Kokesh and said something like, Look, man, Spotify doesn't want, you know, these kind of shows.

00:33:54.000 And there were issues with, like, the facts, the things that were being said.

00:33:57.000 They weren't true.

00:33:58.000 So they, you know, they didn't want it on their platform.

00:34:00.000 And then Adam frames it as such, like, misinformation.

00:34:03.000 He uses those words, right?

00:34:04.000 Exactly.

00:34:05.000 But as I say, if that statement from Adam is true, then this is crazy.

00:34:10.000 This is seriously crazy.

00:34:11.000 Joe outright being like Spotify is pulling the strings.

00:34:14.000 Yeah, I mean, it's very much he said, he said situation.

00:34:16.000 We don't know.

00:34:17.000 Joe didn't say anything.

00:34:18.000 Yeah, well, exactly.

00:34:19.000 So we have one person leveling an accusation and we have to assume innocence until there's proof of guilt.

00:34:23.000 We have to remain agnostic on this.

00:34:25.000 But I would also say that, well, yeah, that doesn't sound like something Joe Rogan would do to me.

00:34:28.000 I don't know him as a person.

00:34:31.000 And he's also not the kind of person I would have figured as a public apology kind of guy either.

00:34:35.000 So who knows?

00:34:37.000 I think he views this show, his show, as like a little side project and he wants it in a box just like wrapped up and not stressing his life out.

00:34:45.000 I saw him on Instagram, he's like, this is how I'm dealing with all the BS and it's like they light a gorilla, piece of gorilla ice cream on fire and they're like, and I'm on mushrooms as part of it.

00:34:54.000 I was like, yeah, dude, he just wants to live, man.

00:34:57.000 If it gets too much of a hassle, then it's too much of a hassle.

00:34:59.000 You move on to something else, so.

00:35:01.000 I think what we see from all of this is that people shouldn't assume Joe Rogan is a warrior, like you said, like fighting on your side in the culture war.

00:35:09.000 He's a guy who has conversations.

00:35:10.000 You happen to agree with him on a decent amount of those opinions.

00:35:12.000 That's about it.

00:35:13.000 Yeah, he's not going to save you or back you up unless he really believes it.

00:35:17.000 Sorry, Seamus.

00:35:17.000 Yeah, well, or you agree with some of the people he's platformed.

00:35:20.000 He did literally save us with our medical issues.

00:35:23.000 He's so legit.

00:35:24.000 He's just such a kind person.

00:35:25.000 If you watch his Fear Factor stuff in the early days, he's got this innate ability to motivate and give courage.

00:35:34.000 He's just such a kind, gentle gorilla.

00:35:37.000 Yeah.

00:35:39.000 Okay.

00:35:40.000 Circling back though to, I just want to reaffirm that.

00:35:43.000 Yeah.

00:35:43.000 I mean, anything, anything anyone has said that he has said or done behind closed doors, like that, we don't have any confirmation on with respect to that.

00:35:50.000 If we catch situation, you have to like, sort of stay on the side of we don't know, and we can't jump to conclusions about it.

00:35:56.000 I want to say, you know, I want to make sure this is in every time I bring up a video about Joe, that he's helped me out tremendously.

00:36:03.000 Having me on his show helped my career tremendously.

00:36:06.000 Having me on with CEO of Twitter, Jack Dorsey, was just insane for me at the time.

00:36:10.000 So I'm like, dude, I'm just some dude on YouTube with like 100,000 subs.

00:36:13.000 Like, why am I sitting in front of the CEO of this major, biggest, you know, one of the biggest companies in the world?

00:36:17.000 And so Joe had me on and he said that, you know, he thought I was a smart guy and I held my own.

00:36:21.000 He appreciated it.

00:36:23.000 He helped us out with our medical issues.

00:36:24.000 So I think he's genuinely just like a really good dude.

00:36:26.000 And I think, I don't think he ever expected to be in this position.

00:36:30.000 I think he even said that.

00:36:31.000 He just wanted to hang out and talk with his friends and all of a sudden he had this big show and it's crazy and he just wants to chill.

00:36:36.000 But I will say, I think this is the... It's all downhill from here.

00:36:45.000 Well, the Rumble thing I like.

00:36:46.000 I like that Chris did this, Chris Pavlovsky, because this is a big statement.

00:36:50.000 It's legitimate.

00:36:51.000 He will pay Joe $100 million if he does it.

00:36:53.000 But it also tells Spotify, if you mess with Joe too much, there's an exit ramp for this dude.

00:37:00.000 So don't mess with this guy, because the world loves him.

00:37:03.000 I think it's all downhill from here in terms of what happened to the Joe Rogan experience.

00:37:07.000 As Joe stated, right?

00:37:09.000 When he made this video compilation of him saying the N-words, really old.

00:37:13.000 It was resurfaced by a Super PAC group or something like that.

00:37:17.000 His position, as my understanding, first of all, he's never used the slur.

00:37:21.000 He said the slur.

00:37:22.000 It's a big difference.

00:37:23.000 Citing the name of certain comedy specials, referencing the word itself.

00:37:28.000 But he recently came out and said, There are a lot of people that think there's no context in which a white person can say this word, and I agree with that now and I haven't said it for years.

00:37:38.000 That's the change in Joe where he's like, okay, I'll take this stuff down.

00:37:42.000 But that is a very, very important change to reference.

00:37:46.000 I'll say it this way.

00:37:48.000 There is no context in which you will not face severe repercussions for saying the word descriptively.

00:37:56.000 The n-word, right?

00:37:57.000 And it becomes very difficult then when you want to reference the names of documentaries because there's different forms of what we would call the n-word.

00:38:07.000 And this is already a very difficult conversation to have, because it's hard for me to actually tell you what the words are, because if we say it, YouTube will take the show down outright.

00:38:15.000 This is why I think we're having a very serious problem in our public discourse.

00:38:20.000 There is no reason why a smart, honest individual can't describe a word.

00:38:25.000 In fact, there are words that sound like the N-word you can't say either.

00:38:28.000 A guy got cancer, he was on Fox News, and he used a word I can't say that meant shrewd, and they attacked him for it.

00:38:35.000 It is absolutely insane that you have an executive at Netflix was telling people, here's a list of offensive words that should not be aired on our programs.

00:38:45.000 And he got fired for telling people the word not to say.

00:38:51.000 This is psychotic.

00:38:52.000 When Joe says, you know, after a few years, I realized, yes, you're right.

00:38:57.000 We should not be able to describe this word.

00:39:01.000 I completely disagree, but it shows you the cultural defeat, because that literally makes no sense whatsoever.

00:39:07.000 While I will absolutely acknowledge, we of course will never reference, there's I think five or six words we're talking about in a members-only podcast that start with the letter N but are not the same word that you can't say for a variety of reasons.

00:39:24.000 One of them I'm willing to actually say it's Nazi. 0.92

00:39:27.000 By saying that, YouTube has already probably struck the channel.

00:39:30.000 We're probably downranked, demonetized, all of that stuff.

00:39:33.000 Because YouTube doesn't think that content is appropriate for advertisers, so you get hurt by it.

00:39:39.000 There's other words that are referenced in documentaries that are not the typical N-word, but still are considered offensive by today's standards.

00:39:46.000 I can't describe that word to you or explain to you what it is.

00:39:48.000 It makes it impossible to explain to people what's going on at all.

00:39:51.000 For Joe to come out and be like, I agree, I agree, there's no context.

00:39:55.000 I'm like, that's hardcore bending the knee to an extreme degree.

00:39:59.000 Here's what I would say.

00:40:01.000 There are certain contexts where you need to describe what words people shouldn't be using in derogatory context.

00:40:08.000 We're not allowed to say those words because the machine by which we have this show on will ban us outright.

00:40:14.000 But, in the Members Only segment, we've had this conversation before, and we still refrain from using certain words, but we still get smeared for it anyway, trying to explain to people we simply want them to understand context.

00:40:27.000 You're not allowed.

00:40:28.000 I think that's a fair way to put it.

00:40:30.000 Joe actually just sided with the left's perspective that you shouldn't be allowed to describe words.

00:40:34.000 Yeah, I was thinking, like, what if your kid comes to you and is like, Daddy, why is this word so bad?

00:40:39.000 And asks and says the word and you're like...

00:40:42.000 I can't talk about it.

00:40:43.000 Like, could you imagine not being able to communicate with your child and explain why things are the way they are?

00:40:47.000 I'm not living that life.

00:40:48.000 Well, one thing I found really funny about this story is after they cancelled Joe Rogan, or tried to cancel him over this, video resurfaced to use that lovely euphemism.

00:40:58.000 By the way, that means they dug it up.

00:41:00.000 Somebody went looking for it and found it.

00:41:03.000 Footage also resurfaced of Joe Biden saying the N-word, and we're being told that we have to look at that contextually, but not when Joe Rogan used it.

00:41:14.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:41:15.000 None of them actually care.

00:41:16.000 I'm pretty sure most rational people don't live under this perspective that anyone who's ever said that word, no matter the context, should be canceled, deplatformed, etc.

00:41:25.000 They want to deplatform Joe Rogan, and they're going to do anything to do it.

00:41:29.000 They're going to dig up anything.

00:41:30.000 They'll go through any great length to cancel his show because it's a threat to the institutional power of the establishment, of the regime.

00:41:38.000 Many people pointed out sexism is next.

00:41:40.000 They're going to pull up the things he said about women. 1.00

00:41:42.000 Then you're going to have homophobia.

00:41:44.000 Then you're going to have transphobia.

00:41:46.000 These videos all exist already.

00:41:48.000 The video of Joe and the Planet of the Apes story has been around for years.

00:41:51.000 It's a very, very old video.

00:41:53.000 Joe apologizing, in my opinion, is him basically giving up.

00:42:00.000 Like, like, he doesn't, that's what I'm saying.

00:42:02.000 He doesn't want to fight.

00:42:02.000 I'm not saying he has to fight.

00:42:03.000 I'm not saying I just, it's, I'm mad at him for not wanting to fight.

00:42:06.000 I'm saying, like he said, man, he's, he's just wanted to hang out with his friends and talk about stuff and now here he's in this position.

00:42:12.000 I shouldn't, maybe giving up is, is inappropriate because it implies he wanted this fight in the first place.

00:42:17.000 I think Joe's stood up for himself on many occasions, like when he challenged Sanjay Gupta on CNN.

00:42:21.000 This is clearly a fight he's not willing to stand up for himself on.

00:42:24.000 I think he's deflected it.

00:42:25.000 He's a jiu-jitsu master.

00:42:27.000 That's one way to call it, black belt in jiu-jitsu.

00:42:29.000 No, Taekwondo, right?

00:42:29.000 He's also a black belt in jiu-jitsu.

00:42:31.000 Really?

00:42:31.000 Yeah, for MediBravo.

00:42:32.000 I saw a video of it.

00:42:33.000 It's on YouTube of him giving him the belt.

00:42:35.000 It's real emotional.

00:42:36.000 But he's also a mental jiu-jitsu artist.

00:42:38.000 He knows how to maneuver energy so that it doesn't get in his way.

00:42:41.000 I appreciate that about Joe.

00:42:43.000 But do you feel that's really what he's done in this situation?

00:42:45.000 It's kind of like, it's what he is, kind of.

00:42:48.000 He's very, very, very, not passive, but able to pass through things.

00:42:53.000 I literally don't understand his thinking on this one at all.

00:42:57.000 These people who don't watch his show, they don't like him.

00:43:01.000 They're never going to like him.

00:43:02.000 Apologizing will do nothing.

00:43:04.000 And by apologizing, what's happening now is all of these videos are popping up of people being like, whoa, Joe Rogan admitted it.

00:43:09.000 He admitted to everything.

00:43:10.000 He's admitted, he's gone into great detail about it, and he said he thought it was entertaining.

00:43:15.000 Like, dude.

00:43:16.000 The people who like you don't know, don't care.

00:43:19.000 They've seen your show already.

00:43:20.000 They've watched your show from the beginning.

00:43:21.000 They get it.

00:43:22.000 The people who don't like you, they're never gonna like you.

00:43:25.000 So what is the point?

00:43:26.000 I want to point this out.

00:43:27.000 There is something inherently absurd with the idea of apologizing to a group of people who are literally saying that context doesn't matter because that means the context of your apology doesn't matter.

00:43:38.000 All they see is you bending the knee and then they want more.

00:43:41.000 This is some- Oh, were you gonna say something?

00:43:42.000 Working at Mines, I worked with Mines for a long time, co-founder of the company with Bill, Bill Altman, the CEO.

00:43:48.000 He kept telling me, it was like 2013, 14, 15, 16, he was like, context matters.

00:43:52.000 And I was like, yeah, I know Bill, but like, and he's like, talking about how to administrate the website.

00:43:58.000 Context matters. A robot cannot take a piece of text out of context.

00:44:02.000 It makes no sense, it can, but it makes no sense ethically or constructively, morally to do that.

00:44:07.000 So context, but how do you teach a computer system about context?

00:44:11.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:44:13.000 Social media is not... Context doesn't exist on Twitter or on the internet or anything like this.

00:44:19.000 The goal of people on these platforms is just to beat you until you submit to them.

00:44:24.000 So if you're anybody who gets caught in one of these situations, you can't bend the knee, because they won't care.

00:44:30.000 They're never going to stop.

00:44:32.000 Like, you know, Glenn Youngkin, the governor of Virginia, did something like this over the weekend where he apologized for a tweet where he, his campaign account made fun of this high school kid who tweeted a viral lie about him.

00:44:42.000 But like, obviously they didn't, obviously they didn't, they were like, oh, this isn't a real apology.

00:44:46.000 Like, you can't bend the knee to these people at all because they, all they want is your career to be destroyed.

00:44:51.000 And so you have to stand up to them.

00:44:52.000 And even if it is an authentic apology, even if they accept that it's an authentic apology, this is not a group of people that believes in forgiveness or redemption.

00:44:58.000 You are always the person who did that and they will always smear you with it.

00:45:01.000 And I do believe, this is a great conversation, we talked about this before the show, using a slur at someone and talking about a word are different.

00:45:10.000 Different environments, different meanings, and so that sort of seems to have been lost.

00:45:15.000 Any word.

00:45:15.000 In the flow of text, yeah, yeah.

00:45:18.000 Uh, so I, I truly believe that talking about words that have been used as racist slurs in the past is very important for our species to evolve and move past it and, and make it part of us.

00:45:28.000 And then like old words that used to be really offensive.

00:45:30.000 We don't, they're not offensive anymore.

00:45:31.000 A lot of those words, that's just the nature of human communication.

00:45:35.000 Yeah, no, exactly.

00:45:36.000 I mean, so, so if, um, you know, a child uses a swear word, they drop the F bomb and then dad gets home from work and mom goes, Johnny said, what the F?

00:45:44.000 And she drops the word.

00:45:46.000 There's a world of difference between that and her husband coming home from work and she looks at him and she says, F you.

00:45:51.000 Like she's saying the F word in both contexts or in both situations, but the context is extremely different.

00:45:58.000 In one situation she is actually using it to hurt someone and in the other situation she's using it to either illustrate a point or to describe what someone else has said.

00:46:08.000 So necessary.

00:46:09.000 And I want to bring that back to social media somehow, to culture, to common culture.

00:46:14.000 Joe is like the hot tip of the spear here, man.

00:46:17.000 But this is a conversation that's necessary.

00:46:20.000 But when you're on the internet, though, it's like, oh, you said this word.

00:46:24.000 You shouldn't have a thing anymore.

00:46:26.000 These things don't exist on Twitter.

00:46:28.000 It's not a place where nuance is a thing.

00:46:29.000 The news outlets are all saying, video of Joe using the N-word.

00:46:35.000 And so even if you want to argue that there's a better euphemism to use for the word when describing it, it's clear that there is a very large difference between using it and referencing it.

00:46:47.000 Yeah, if you had like a bunch of blocks of letters that said the word and then you took a sledgehammer and smashed them, you'd be using the word but in like an alliterative Artistic manner.

00:46:58.000 We know the media falsely frames things.

00:47:01.000 We know that they'll twist whatever you did in any way possible to push the narrative they want.

00:47:08.000 I'll tell you what I think.

00:47:10.000 I think Joe's deal with Spotify.

00:47:11.000 I've seen people chatting and they're in the chat saying he's probably got an NDA, he's probably got morality clauses about what he can and can't do, about controversies, and Spotify probably told him to apologize or whatever and he can't talk about it.

00:47:27.000 I don't know.

00:47:28.000 I think Joe's probably got equity and I think he got shares of Spotify.

00:47:32.000 When you think about the biggest podcast in the world, what's the real incentive for going exclusive?

00:47:37.000 There have been many outlets, many tech companies who have asked me and they're like, you know, how about an equity deal?

00:47:44.000 And I'm just like, not interested.

00:47:46.000 I literally don't care about that.

00:47:47.000 But I understand why someone would say it's a good deal.

00:47:49.000 I mean, think about it.

00:47:50.000 The Wall Street Journal reports that Joe Rogan gets $100 million.

00:47:53.000 They say it's a multi-year contract.

00:47:55.000 Everyone assumes this always means cash.

00:47:59.000 It doesn't.

00:48:00.000 So, my contract with Fusion, which was the ABC News Univision joint venture, was valued at like $3 to $5 million, but direct compensation was only like $700.

00:48:11.000 The rest of the stuff was like discretionary budget, staffing, hiring, but it was a big contract.

00:48:16.000 So if you're trying to do a big pitch, you can be like Disney nabs up Tim Pool with a $5 million contract or something like that.

00:48:22.000 It sounds like I'm getting all this money.

00:48:23.000 I'm not getting.

00:48:25.000 In my opinion, I don't know exactly what the specifics of Joe's deal with Spotify was, but I'd imagine they probably came to him and said, X amount of cash, X amount of shares, and maybe like a bonus or something like that.

00:48:40.000 I would imagine.

00:48:41.000 In a boat for Jamie.

00:48:43.000 So actually, Ian, you're having worked with mines.

00:48:47.000 You've worked with a lot of companies.

00:48:49.000 They offer equity as incentives to sign on people and stuff.

00:48:51.000 Yeah, a lot of times what you do is you vest the equity, meaning that you sign a contract saying, I'm going to work here for this amount of time, five years, and every year I'll earn a portion of my percentage of equity that I will be earning in total.

00:49:02.000 So for me, it was 1% of the mine stock.

00:49:04.000 Every year I would get like 0.3% or 0.2.

00:49:06.000 And as long as I stayed at the company, I would keep accruing it.

00:49:10.000 And if I left at any time, I'd have what I had.

00:49:11.000 So let's say that $100 million deal for Rogan was outright because, you know, he still sells commercials on his show, right?

00:49:19.000 Yes, on Spotify.

00:49:20.000 He does like a VOD, is that what it's called?

00:49:23.000 He sells them directly.

00:49:24.000 Direct ad sales.

00:49:25.000 So I'd imagine Spotify would have nothing to do with that because it's a licensing deal, right?

00:49:29.000 So let's say that Spotify went to him and said, It's a multi-year contract and we'll give you $100 million in equity right now.

00:49:39.000 Right now.

00:49:40.000 As soon as he signs that deal, the stock jumped by what, like 20%?

00:49:42.000 Yeah.

00:49:43.000 So I don't know exactly what the specifics of their deal was, but I would imagine a good reason why Joe probably came out and apologized.

00:49:53.000 He's got equity in the company.

00:49:54.000 Interesting.

00:49:55.000 Yeah, it has nothing to do with cancel culture.

00:49:57.000 It has nothing to do... It's just literally like, how can I, you know, make sure this isn't going bad for everybody who's, you know, investing in this company?

00:50:04.000 I think it's multi-layered, obviously.

00:50:06.000 I think Joe obviously doesn't like the fact that that video exists.

00:50:10.000 I think he's very... I think he's genuine and sincere when he was like, man, I watched that video and I'm like, I cringe watching it.

00:50:16.000 You know, I, you know, wish I didn't say these things and some of these things were crude and crass.

00:50:19.000 I think he's genuine.

00:50:20.000 But I think, you know, part of the motivation is, you know, gotta, gotta protect his business, gotta protect his assets.

00:50:27.000 And I don't, I, I think everyone just assumes, I've seen a lot of people on the left pointing this out, people on the right just assume Joe Rogan is on their side in this great culture war battle and he just happens to agree with him on a lot of things.

00:50:38.000 But Joe Rogan is just a comedian and entertainer who talks about stuff he cares about.

00:50:41.000 Don't expect him to jump in the line of fire for you.

00:50:44.000 But at the same time, like, defending free speech, defending, you know, the unfiltered conversations that he has, I think it's important for our discourse.

00:50:51.000 And I think it's even more important is that he gives another side of the story that very, very powerful institutions want to censor.

00:51:00.000 And so the reason, you know, I think the reason, like, most people admire Joe Rogan and defend Joe Rogan, people on the right, I would say, is for those reasons.

00:51:07.000 Because, like, you know, we believe in free speech, we believe That it's important to talk about things and that censorship is for weak people.

00:51:17.000 Just thinking in terms of defending this idea of free speech without censorship, I think that's why the people on the right defend him in the way that they've been doing.

00:51:25.000 Well, here's the next big move.

00:51:27.000 We got the story from CNBC.

00:51:29.000 Spotify CEO apologizes to staff for Joe Rogan controversy as episodes get removed.

00:51:34.000 The CEO said that it was Joe who pulled the episodes, and they've gone on to announce that they will be investing, where is this thing, $100 million.

00:51:41.000 The CEO of Spotify said they will invest $100 million for the licensing, development, and marketing of music and audio content from historically marginalized groups.

00:51:49.000 I don't know exactly what that means, but I can tell you this.

00:51:52.000 If Spotify takes $200 million and gives $100 to Joe Rogan and $100 to historically marginalized groups, on the surface, I could care less.

00:52:00.000 More speech is better.

00:52:01.000 More speech is good.

00:52:02.000 The problem is, we're not getting more speech.

00:52:05.000 Joe Rogan is conceding and apologizing and bending the knee and changing his positions, and the woke left is getting a massive influx of cash.

00:52:13.000 So this is not more speech, it's the same old establishment talking points, and the one show, there's a reason why it's so big, Joe Rogan's show, the one show with a big enough footprint that actually moved the needle, that discusses anti-establishment talking points, is bending the knee, even if it's only a little bit.

00:52:31.000 So we are not gaining in this.

00:52:32.000 A lot of people pointed out when Joe said, I'll try my hardest to have, you know, if I have one person who's controversial, I'll have another expert following him.

00:52:40.000 It's like, oh, okay.

00:52:41.000 So the establishment mainstream media, which controls billions of views per month that everyone's already seen, and the one guy, the one time he gets a chance to speak out like Dr. Robert Malone on this audience, you're gonna give the establishment the rebuttal when they already own the entire narrative.

00:52:56.000 I think the good- It's not a win.

00:52:58.000 The tactic is to have them on together, Sanjay and Malone.

00:53:01.000 And then the truth will come out.

00:53:03.000 And Rogan can hold the microphone.

00:53:05.000 Some people have said, you know, all these people are absolutely right.

00:53:11.000 Joe should not be platforming misinformation.

00:53:13.000 Dr. Fauci should go on his show for three hours and explain everything in detail.

00:53:19.000 Wouldn't that be wonderful?

00:53:20.000 And then in six months, that'll be misinformation.

00:53:22.000 It'll have to take it down.

00:53:23.000 Well, that's what Joe literally said in the first video he made, that a lot of the stuff that Dr. Malone and McCullough talked about a year ago would get you banned for, so he's not going to stop.

00:53:36.000 Then what happens is these activists resurface a really old video, a compilation of out-of-context clips, And Joe said he felt bad about it and he apologized for it.

00:53:45.000 The issue is, there's two fundamentally different worldviews.

00:53:49.000 Joe is clearly of the worldview that we occupy.

00:53:52.000 That there are certain contexts where describing things is okay.

00:53:56.000 The other worldview claims that Joe used the slur simply by uttering its word in a descriptive context.

00:54:02.000 Joe does not occupy that worldview, although he's claiming now he understands it and agrees with them.

00:54:06.000 Does he really agree with them or is he scared of them?

00:54:08.000 Because I'll be completely honest, I completely will openly admit, I recognize, there are conversations you can't have.

00:54:16.000 You will get banned outright.

00:54:17.000 Joe is coming out and saying basically that same thing.

00:54:19.000 That's why I'm kind of like, oh, you know, I kind of get it, I guess.

00:54:22.000 I get it.

00:54:22.000 I used mean humor when I was a kid.

00:54:24.000 It was kind of a part of our friend group and we would call each other really abusive names and like race, be racist and all this gross stuff.

00:54:30.000 And then I learned somewhere in college, I went to theater school and it was very liberal. 0.53

00:54:33.000 Homosexuality was present. 0.98

00:54:34.000 And I learned like, you can't just make fun of people because of the way they are.

00:54:39.000 And I stopped doing it.

00:54:40.000 And man, has my life become better. 0.98

00:54:42.000 I don't have crap. 0.98

00:54:43.000 For the most part, I haven't done the racist, the hateful, not that it's hateful comedy, but I haven't made people the butt of my jokes since I was 2001 or something. 0.98

00:54:54.000 Edgy comedy was all the rave in the 90s and 2000s.

00:54:57.000 Now it's just... comedy is forbidden, man.

00:55:00.000 Well, I mean, it's interesting, too, because especially in the late 90s, early 2000s, all of the edgy comedy was being done by left-wing people who were trying to promote a left-wing message, and on some level, I think that's why they were so successful in the culture war at that time.

00:55:13.000 I think there's a simple solution to all of this.

00:55:16.000 For one, look, Joe's got a really big show, and that's why this news is getting so much attention.

00:55:21.000 Everyone is talking about it.

00:55:22.000 It's getting bigger.

00:55:23.000 Joe's apology video made the story substantially larger.

00:55:26.000 His second apology made it even larger.

00:55:28.000 It's not going to go away unless or until, you know, the story's not going to stop until Joe's show is gone.

00:55:36.000 For whatever reason.

00:55:36.000 Either pulled off, or he quits.

00:55:39.000 Because, you know, they want him- the political establishment, they want him gone before the midterms.

00:55:43.000 They can't have him propping, you know, these voices or anything like that.

00:55:47.000 But I think, none of this, in the end, is really gonna matter.

00:55:51.000 You know what matters?

00:55:52.000 Infrastructure.

00:55:53.000 Infrastructure.

00:55:54.000 One of the challenges we face is that we use YouTube for one of our, you know, key pieces of infrastructure, the live portion of the show.

00:56:03.000 A lot of people have pointed out that we should use Rumble.

00:56:06.000 It's true, the issue is Rumble is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the audience that YouTube has.

00:56:11.000 And while a lot of people have said, so what, just do Rumble anyway, I don't think people realize that I would say maybe like 70% of the people who watch this show are not super politically active people.

00:56:24.000 They don't know what Rumble is.

00:56:26.000 They won't watch Rumble.

00:56:27.000 They'll just be confused one day as to why this show is gone.

00:56:30.000 That's all they'll know.

00:56:30.000 It's gone.

00:56:31.000 And I think it's against terms of service of YouTube.

00:56:33.000 If we run, like, an ad from 8 to 10 on YouTube that says, come to the Rumble stream, like, they don't... You can't do that.

00:56:38.000 It's against terms of service to tell people to go off-site.

00:56:40.000 There's clever things people do where they'll stream for a minimum amount of time and then announce they're doing a stream somewhere else.

00:56:47.000 But if you, like, YouTube has a rule that if you announce you're streaming somewhere else and then leave, it's a bannable offense.

00:56:52.000 Outright ban your whole channel.

00:56:53.000 Also, you have to think about why YouTube and Google are implementing a lot of these different censorship strategies.

00:56:59.000 And the reason is because left-wing activists complain to them and say things like, you're allowing this person on this platform.

00:57:06.000 And often they'll say, you're allowing people to be radicalized by this specific person on this platform.

00:57:11.000 Someone who's come to YouTube for reasons that are totally non-political will see a Tim Pool video or a Freedom Tunes video or a Crowder video and they will get sucked down this deep dark rabbit hole.

00:57:21.000 Now what the person is really saying is that other ideas are being given a voice on this platform and I don't like that.

00:57:27.000 For our response to be, you know what, then we're just going to get off their platform and give them exactly what they want is in some ways for us to admit defeat.

00:57:35.000 Yeah, it's like there's a big battlefield and, you know, the ranks are being flattened.

00:57:40.000 So we yell, retreat!

00:57:42.000 Let's go!

00:57:42.000 Cede the battlefield!

00:57:44.000 And it's true. 0.56

00:57:45.000 I mean, eventually, yeah, YouTube could ban each and every one of our channels.

00:57:47.000 And I think it's important to have a contingency plan for if and when that happens.

00:57:52.000 But the fact that the left wing is out there saying they're on YouTube and that's bad makes me very much want to stay on YouTube.

00:57:59.000 Because I want to do the things that the left thinks are terrible.

00:58:03.000 So there's a couple things to say.

00:58:04.000 One, this is why we have TimCast.com.

00:58:06.000 So we can host, you know, conversations in our quote-unquote speakeasy.

00:58:10.000 But the other thing I'll say is, if someone is... Here's what I tell people.

00:58:14.000 They're like, hey, I want to get started doing a podcast or whatever.

00:58:16.000 I'm like, do it on Rumble.

00:58:17.000 Don't start on YouTube.

00:58:19.000 Rumble has, for new channels in my opinion, an opportunity for growing an audience faster than YouTube does, and an opportunity for a style of content that is greatly missing in the market.

00:58:29.000 I started making YouTube videos as content censorship was getting worse and worse and worse.

00:58:34.000 Here we are with a big platform and a lot of people who watch, so I think it's important to maintain.

00:58:39.000 But we do post everything to Rumble as well, and for TimCast.com we use Rumble infrastructure.

00:58:43.000 If you're starting a new channel, look at Dan Bongino.

00:58:45.000 Dan Mangino had 2 million subscribers on Rumble and only like 700 or 800,000 on YouTube.

00:58:51.000 So if you're starting a new channel, I would say start it on Rumble.

00:58:55.000 And we've talked about this too.

00:58:56.000 If you want to do comedy, you can really do comedy on Rumble.

00:59:00.000 The links can be shared.

00:59:02.000 Then ultimately what it comes down to is, it's not about Joe, it's not about any individual, it's about infrastructure.

00:59:08.000 It's about the ability of individuals to freely speak without having to worry about being banned.

00:59:14.000 So, in the event we ever did get banned, oh yeah, we'd immediately be on, you know, Rumble, most likely.

00:59:19.000 But, uh, you know, they're not perfect either.

00:59:21.000 We'd still operate much the same way, and, you know, we'd probably just carry on, but there'd be a lot of people who'd be genuinely confused as to what happened to the show.

00:59:28.000 They, you know, YouTube will probably lose some viewership, but man, I gotta tell you, When we are sick, or we have a cancellation, and so the show doesn't happen, we can post about why does it happen everywhere, and we still get emails from people saying, like, where's the show?

00:59:42.000 I even get Facebook messages from family, like, where's the show?

00:59:44.000 And I'm like, man, we literally post it on Twitter, on Instagram, on YouTube, like, we post it all over the place, and people don't see it.

00:59:50.000 They just turn on the TV at eight, turn it off at 10, basically.

00:59:52.000 A lot of people tell me they turn on their TV, open the YouTube app, and then watch the show live on their TVs.

00:59:57.000 And we've also seen a whole bunch of images that was really funny.

01:00:00.000 I think Luke, it was Luke, he was browsing Amazon.

01:00:02.000 You remember this?

01:00:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:03.000 He was browsing Amazon, looking at TVs to buy.

01:00:05.000 And one of the TVs had a product description, like photos, and the photo was us on the TV.

01:00:11.000 It was really, really funny.

01:00:12.000 So meta.

01:00:13.000 So anyway, look, the point is, we're beholden to YouTube for a lot of ways.

01:00:18.000 But I like to imagine that we have extended some kind of bridge from YouTube to Rumble, to BitChute, to Gab, to Minds, to any of these other platforms where people can still communicate and share.

01:00:30.000 So my advice is, anyone starting new channels, Rumble is your opportunity, not YouTube.

01:00:33.000 I'm very interested in integrating Minds and Rumble.

01:00:36.000 It's on the talking table right now.

01:00:38.000 I've been hanging out with Chris and Bill, and I'm obsessed with this.

01:00:41.000 I want to put it together.

01:00:41.000 I want to bring Andrew.

01:00:42.000 Come on in, buddy.

01:00:44.000 I know, over there.

01:00:44.000 Gab, I see you.

01:00:46.000 I love you, Andrew.

01:00:46.000 I think integrating Gab, Minds, and Rumble, and Library is so key.

01:00:52.000 And right there in front of us.

01:00:54.000 Very excited.

01:00:55.000 Well, it's like one of the things we do is we like, you know, the candidates that we work with and a lot of the, you know, organizations we work with are, you know, the big tech censorship is a very important issue to them.

01:01:04.000 And so, like, when we work with a candidate, we want to steer, like, we want to steer them towards, you know, when we get this new GOP majority, we actually have to do something, change laws in Congress that can prevent big tech from doing politically motivated censorship.

01:01:19.000 And, you know, because of the lobbying budgets they have, that's why it's never been done.

01:01:23.000 Because a lot of, you know, unfortunately, it's a lot of Republicans who take money from

01:01:26.000 these companies and then laws are never changed and the censorship continues.

01:01:29.000 Is there a way to get that money out of politics?

01:01:31.000 I will not know because we have citizens because we have the Citizens United case

01:01:36.000 where corporations are considered people and they have free speech.

01:01:39.000 So, you know.

01:01:40.000 There are campaign finance laws, like the FEC has laws, but there are ways around it just as there are ways around rich people when they pay their taxes.

01:01:52.000 Yeah.

01:01:53.000 So we'd have to repeal, what was it called?

01:01:55.000 Citizens United?

01:01:56.000 That's the name of the Supreme Court case, but you know, it's a Supreme Court case.

01:01:59.000 Overturn it.

01:01:59.000 It's very tough to repeal that.

01:02:01.000 Yeah, it's a precedent.

01:02:03.000 Basically allows super PACs to spend money.

01:02:05.000 It comes from way back in the 1800s, a guy, a really rich guy wanted to run for president, had all this money.

01:02:10.000 He was like, why can't I use my own money on my own campaign?

01:02:12.000 I want to take a train around the U.S.

01:02:13.000 And they're like, he's kind of making a good point.

01:02:15.000 And that was the first step of like, hey, rich guy gets to do politics a little easier.

01:02:20.000 And so they start passing laws to kind of aid the wealthy after that.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, but I mean, what I think is that the GOP has changed a lot on the issue of big tech.

01:02:30.000 And I think we're starting to see them get a lot more serious, you know, with on that issue.

01:02:35.000 And I, you know, when we get this new GOP majority in this new midterm election, that should be, that's an issue they need to focus on.

01:02:42.000 Yeah, they talk about breaking up big tech.

01:02:44.000 I don't think you can break up the corporation.

01:02:46.000 That's why I talk about freeing the software code of big social networks.

01:02:49.000 I wonder if it's too fascist to order the government to... but it's kind of like breaking up a monopoly.

01:02:54.000 Well, yeah, I mean, are antitrust laws fascist?

01:02:57.000 I don't think so.

01:02:58.000 They're like anti-fascist.

01:03:00.000 Yeah, it depends on who you ask, I guess.

01:03:03.000 Look, I think I think if you're like a liberal, I mean, I think I would say most libertarians would be against that sort of thing.

01:03:09.000 But I would say as you know, as somebody on the as a conservative, as somebody I distrust.

01:03:15.000 If you distrust, you know, concentrated power in the government, you should also distrust Yeah, no, exactly.

01:03:20.000 powering corporations.

01:03:21.000 And I think one of the things people on the right missed today is that government today is

01:03:28.000 not the only threat to our liberty.

01:03:29.000 Corporations that get too big can be just as big of a threat and even more of a threat.

01:03:33.000 Like, what would you say is a bigger threat to your freedom today? The government or Google?

01:03:37.000 Yeah, no, exactly. Google.

01:03:38.000 Yeah, it's wild.

01:03:40.000 The military concerns me, but a corporation can hire private military, basically.

01:03:46.000 It can have armed security.

01:03:48.000 And then if they want to flick a switch and go psycho, you're like, well, glad we have a government to protect us.

01:03:54.000 Let's talk about what's coming next for the U.S., right?

01:03:57.000 So, outside of media and big tech and all that stuff, we still have some direct action.

01:04:01.000 We got the story from Rolling Stone.

01:04:03.000 Republican lawmaker basically begs anti-vax truckers to blockade the Super Bowl.

01:04:09.000 There's almost no chance of the blockade happening, but Rep.

01:04:12.000 Wendy Rogers, part of the Law & Order GOP, is basically pining for it.

01:04:16.000 Is that begging?

01:04:17.000 If truckers shut down the Super Bowl, it would partially be payback for Colin Kaepernick and

01:04:21.000 the kneeling. Is that begging? Is that practically begging?

01:04:24.000 Yeah, it's, it's, this is the nature of media these days.

01:04:28.000 Everything's hyperbole.

01:04:29.000 I mean, it is what it is.

01:04:32.000 But I don't know if there's actually going to be a convoy to the Super Bowl.

01:04:38.000 Other than I've seen more than just Wendy Rogers bring it up, I've seen people on Twitter and other forums actually say it would be a good idea and they'd want to do it.

01:04:46.000 There's also the U.S.

01:04:48.000 convoy that's supposedly forming to go to D.C.

01:04:51.000 as well, so Americans are absolutely getting on board with this.

01:04:54.000 What if a convoy went over to the Olympics?

01:04:57.000 Think the CCP would do anything?

01:04:59.000 How would they even get in?

01:05:01.000 Take a ferry!

01:05:01.000 The Bering Strait?

01:05:02.000 Plus, it's like the Winter Olympics, so it'd be like driving up a mountain or something.

01:05:05.000 It's still crazy to me that, like, after just a year where China unleashed a pandemic on the world that killed millions of people, they've cracked down on Hong Kong, they've committed a genocide, And the world responds by sending all of their athletes there to compete in the Olympics. 0.86

01:05:20.000 That's why people are gloating at all of these athletes who are getting injured and screwing up.

01:05:24.000 There's that one Chinese-American woman who, uh, uh, she, she... What's the word? 1.00

01:05:31.000 She abandoned... Are you talking about Aileen Gu?

01:05:33.000 The skier?

01:05:34.000 No, no, no, no.

01:05:35.000 She just like slipped on her skis or whatever. 0.84

01:05:37.000 Oh, you're talking about an injury.

01:05:38.000 No, I'm talking about that woman who fell ice skating and she had renounced her American citizenship to skate for China instead of America.

01:05:48.000 Wait, what?

01:05:49.000 I didn't see that.

01:05:50.000 That happens?

01:05:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:52.000 Yeah, a Chinese-American born woman renounced U.S. 1.00

01:05:55.000 citizenship to... I think I have it.

01:05:57.000 Maybe... Zhu Yi? 0.88

01:05:59.000 Because when you said that, I was thinking of... Here we go, yeah.

01:06:02.000 Zhu Yi falls again, breaks down in tears at the Olympics.

01:06:06.000 People are making fun of her because she gave up American citizenship, and now she's fallen twice, and people in China are mocking her and insulting her and laughing at her.

01:06:17.000 Yeah.

01:06:17.000 Sad.

01:06:18.000 I mean, I was thinking of the skier who was born in America and grew up in San Francisco.

01:06:25.000 Her mom was from China and she competed for the U.S. 1.00

01:06:29.000 until two years ago and she switched to China and is now competing for China in the Olympics.

01:06:33.000 Is she the one who shed her leg?

01:06:35.000 No, I don't think so.

01:06:36.000 Her name's Eileen Gu.

01:06:38.000 You sure?

01:06:39.000 I believe so.

01:06:41.000 I mean, I haven't watched, like, the Olympics at all for obvious reasons, so... I don't... No, no, no.

01:06:46.000 What was she? 0.85

01:06:48.000 I don't know.

01:06:48.000 There was two.

01:06:49.000 I think she was the one who lost one of her skis, but then just, like, slid it out and was totally fine.

01:06:55.000 But there's another skier who was doing slalom and she, like... 0.97

01:06:58.000 Slipped out and then her legs spiraled and she like fractured her tibia or whatever. 0.63

01:07:03.000 What's the bone down there?

01:07:03.000 Is it the tibia?

01:07:04.000 The tibia is the toe bones.

01:07:05.000 The fibula is the finger.

01:07:06.000 I know T and F. That's how I remember it.

01:07:08.000 Oh, is it?

01:07:09.000 No, what's what's... The femur is the... Lydia looks like... Lydia's the doctor. 0.99

01:07:13.000 The femur is like that biggest bone.

01:07:15.000 He said fibula.

01:07:16.000 Yeah, the fibula.

01:07:17.000 I believe that's in the leg.

01:07:19.000 Am I wrong about that?

01:07:19.000 It's not toes and fingers.

01:07:20.000 I'm so sorry if I'm wrong about that.

01:07:22.000 I thought tibia and fibula.

01:07:23.000 Ian, you're all the one!

01:07:24.000 My dad told me that 30 years ago.

01:07:26.000 I'm looking it up, you guys.

01:07:27.000 Femur breaks also.

01:07:28.000 The bone between your knee and your foot.

01:07:30.000 That one.

01:07:31.000 That's the femur. 0.73

01:07:32.000 No, the femur is your thigh. 0.76

01:07:33.000 Between your knee and your foot.

01:07:34.000 It's your biggest bone, yeah.

01:07:36.000 Yeah, it's the fibula.

01:07:37.000 Fibula?

01:07:38.000 Yeah.

01:07:38.000 Oh, okay, that one.

01:07:38.000 I thought it was fibula.

01:07:39.000 Tibia, I was way off.

01:07:40.000 Fibula's the arm.

01:07:41.000 Is the arm?

01:07:42.000 She like spiraled it. 0.64

01:07:43.000 It was brutal.

01:07:43.000 What a tone.

01:07:45.000 That is a really good point.

01:07:47.000 Oh, it's the fibula.

01:07:49.000 It's different than the fibia.

01:07:50.000 I guess those are different.

01:07:52.000 All of these athletes who are agreeing to this, I'm sitting back with my feet up while they're all complaining about the conditions they have to go through.

01:08:00.000 Because apparently communist China is unpleasant.

01:08:03.000 Who would have known? 0.95

01:08:03.000 And so all these athletes are like, it's so miserable here. 0.95

01:08:07.000 And I'm like, Don't go!

01:08:09.000 Dude, I'm sorry.

01:08:11.000 People are like, but they've worked so hard their whole lives for the Olympics.

01:08:14.000 And it's like, so what?

01:08:16.000 There was that woman who was a chess grandmaster, refused to go to Iran because she wasn't gonna wear a hijab. 0.99

01:08:20.000 And I'm like, that's awesome.

01:08:22.000 Yeah, good for her.

01:08:22.000 She was like, screw that, I ain't doing it.

01:08:24.000 And I'm like, yes.

01:08:24.000 Start a YouTube channel, play chess online.

01:08:27.000 But these people, it shows what they care more about.

01:08:28.000 It shows what they care more about.

01:08:30.000 These people who are willing to go to China to compete, every single one of them, they care more about a piece of gold on their neck than they do about concentration camps, about potential war and conflict, about what's going on in Hong Kong.

01:08:43.000 I think it's gross.

01:08:44.000 Like actors with the Emmys and the Oscars, do you want to get that medal?

01:08:48.000 Do anything, same thing, bend down and stay quiet so you get that medal.

01:08:52.000 Yeah, I mean, I was an athlete growing up.

01:08:53.000 So, like, I understand if you're someone who's playing a sport your whole life, you know, you dream of going to the Olympics.

01:08:59.000 This is your chance.

01:08:59.000 Like, I get it.

01:09:00.000 Like, I get it.

01:09:02.000 You know, it's hard to give that up just to make just to make a political statement.

01:09:05.000 Like, I'm I'm thinking like, like, it's like put yourself in their shoes.

01:09:09.000 Like, if you're someone who's been training your entire life in this sport, the Olympics is your dream.

01:09:14.000 It's hard.

01:09:14.000 Like, it's hard to give that up.

01:09:15.000 I don't I don't.

01:09:16.000 So that's why I don't like I don't really blame.

01:09:19.000 Anyone for doing this I blame, you know America for not standing up and saying no, we're not sending our people to China Well, why is it incumbent upon the government to stop athletes as individuals?

01:09:28.000 Well, no, not not the government.

01:09:29.000 I'm not necessarily government I'm talking about like, you know, the governing body of USA Athletics right if the USA came out and boycotted the Olympics, they'd be forcing all the yeah Yeah, it's like what the athletes could just choose not to go.

01:09:42.000 Oh Yeah, that's true.

01:09:43.000 But like I said, it's really tough.

01:09:48.000 If you're an athlete like that, I understand that that's a tough decision to make.

01:09:53.000 Just as someone who played sports my whole life.

01:09:55.000 Sure.

01:09:55.000 I mean, I agree that it's a tough decision, but also just because it's the difficult decision doesn't mean it isn't the right one.

01:10:00.000 Oftentimes it is.

01:10:02.000 I'm really confused.

01:10:02.000 I don't think it's a difficult decision at all.

01:10:05.000 He's saying no, I don't think it's a difficult decision morally.

01:10:08.000 I think it's very straightforward.

01:10:09.000 I think you don't go I think what he's saying is that they have to make a large personal sacrifice But what I'm saying is even if you have to make a large personal sacrifice to do the right thing you should still do it And I blame them for not yeah, it's like how many how many?

01:10:22.000 Like how many people murdered in genocide is too much for you as an Olympic athlete.

01:10:26.000 You know I mean exactly Because clearly, because clearly, what's happening to the Uyghur Muslims, what's happened to Hong Kong, what they're threatening over Taiwan, it's not enough for any of these people to be like, yeah, maybe I don't go into Beijing on this one.

01:10:38.000 And wouldn't it be funny if even a small fraction of all of the Olympic athletes were like, hey, we're not going to, we're not going to compete as individuals.

01:10:44.000 I just, I'm not going to go to China.

01:10:45.000 And then China would have to be like, maybe we should stop doing this to the Uyghur Muslims because we're losing out on the Olympics. 0.94

01:10:50.000 What, uh, Jesse Owens, I'm thinking of 1936 Berlin Olympics, Nazi Germany. 0.69

01:10:55.000 He went and performed black guy.

01:10:56.000 And like, it was like a big deal in Nazi Germany.

01:10:58.000 And he won four gold medals.

01:10:59.000 Yeah.

01:11:00.000 And he made a global statement and that was a big deal.

01:11:03.000 So there's a chance for people to go to China and be like, yo down with communism. 0.80

01:11:07.000 But Nancy Pelosi is like, please don't do that because they're crazy over there. 1.00

01:11:10.000 I don't like the whole go and protest at the event thing.

01:11:15.000 You know, I said it before, I'm just like, maybe sporting should just be sporting.

01:11:19.000 And because they're banning, like they announced they banned Black Lives Matter at these events.

01:11:23.000 And I'm like, yeah, well, you know, maybe if people want to just go and compete and it doesn't have to be political all the time, every single time.

01:11:29.000 However, I think it's also fair to then be like, you don't gotta protest there, but you also don't have to go there.

01:11:34.000 You know, the Olympics have always been very neutral, even way back to Athens in the original Olympics.

01:11:39.000 It was a time for all these different Athenian, or all these different Greek nations to come together, even if they were at war with each other, they agreed that they would let the athletes pass through their territory, even of countries they were at war with, to go to the Olympics.

01:11:50.000 Because it was so fun, it was just like, that's the human, you know, we play.

01:11:55.000 So what do you guys think of the World Cup?

01:11:57.000 So we have the World Cup coming up too in November, and it's in Qatar.

01:12:01.000 How many corpses are in the stadium in that building?

01:12:04.000 So they had to move it, so usually it's in the summer, but they moved it to November because of how hot it gets there in the summer, and apparently there are reports that they're using slave labor to build the stadium.

01:12:11.000 Oh yeah, of course, of course, for a long time.

01:12:13.000 There are reports, I could be wrong about this, so affectionately, it's been a long time since I read about this, but corpses in the rubble as they're building, it's just like, oh, somebody died, well, bury over them!

01:12:23.000 It's crazy.

01:12:24.000 I mean, it just shows how, like, corrupt, you know, the international governing bodies of the Olympics and of FIFA are.

01:12:29.000 That they give, like, these countries somehow got the chance to host.

01:12:34.000 You gotta understand how people are.

01:12:37.000 How people are is that...

01:12:39.000 They've spent their whole life working towards a goal.

01:12:43.000 There is nothing that will stand in their way. 0.95

01:12:45.000 For these 18, 19-year-old Olympic athletes who are skiing or snowboarding, they're like, yo, look, I know that China has these Uighur Muslims, these women being raped by Han Chinese men and forced impregnated. 0.97

01:12:59.000 I know they're doing forced abortions and sterilization, but I want to I don't care how many people they kill in those camps, right? 0.90

01:13:08.000 Is that what they're saying? 0.99

01:13:09.000 I think these people are disgusting. 0.81

01:13:10.000 I think it's a very sad reality and it's been difficult to see that in many cases people only care about morality insofar as their reputation requires it. 0.95

01:13:19.000 And so we're at a place where I imagine most people would spend more time criticizing atrocities of the past like Nazi Germany or transatlantic slavery.

01:13:32.000 Uh, then they would criticizing actual atrocities in the world that people won't pat them on the back so much for addressing Yeah, there's no sacrifice complaining about the past exactly and so I mean Again, is there a statistical analysis done on this?

01:13:46.000 No, but based on the conversations I've had particularly with left-leaning people I think there is currently a lot more criticism going on about Nazi Germany, which ended in the 1900s, right, late 40s, than there is criticism of Communist China, which is actually engaged in genocide right now.

01:14:06.000 Did you guys see the story about Savannah Guthrie?

01:14:08.000 No.

01:14:08.000 China using Uyghur athlete in Olympic ceremony and in-your-face response to the West.

01:14:13.000 I did see this.

01:14:14.000 This moment is quite provocative.

01:14:15.000 It's a statement from the Chinese President Xi Jinping.

01:14:20.000 Dude, we are heading towards a future where there is Chinese communist authoritarianism.

01:14:26.000 You mentioned there was already one athlete who defected.

01:14:28.000 I guess there's apparently more than one who's defected from the United States to go perform for China.

01:14:33.000 LeBron James may as well go do it.

01:14:35.000 He's defended China. 0.52

01:14:36.000 You've got Mark Cuban, and apparently Elon Musk is using social media.

01:14:40.000 What is it?

01:14:40.000 Weibo or whatever?

01:14:41.000 Oh, okay.

01:14:42.000 Weibo.

01:14:42.000 I don't know.

01:14:43.000 I can't remember who we had on the show.

01:14:44.000 They were talking about how Elon Musk will say all these great freedom things on Twitter, but then he's also on Chinese social media praising China.

01:14:51.000 Yeah, we talked about it.

01:14:52.000 Did you see this video got taken down by Twitter too?

01:14:55.000 The original account that tweeted it got taken down.

01:14:58.000 It's been disabled in response to a report by the copyright owner.

01:15:02.000 So the copyright owner, is that NBC in this case?

01:15:06.000 Apparently, yeah.

01:15:07.000 Like getting a video of one of their reporters.

01:15:10.000 The stories that have come out of China over what's happening to the Uyghur Muslims, I hope you guys realize it's on par with some of the worst atrocities we've ever heard of in the history of mankind, like forced abortions.

01:15:23.000 Money, money.

01:15:24.000 taking women and holding them down and forced abortions, forced sterilization, bringing 1.00

01:15:28.000 men in to rape these women. 1.00

01:15:30.000 These stories, some of the images and the videos that have come out are some of the 0.98

01:15:35.000 most nightmarish and grotesque things we've ever seen.

01:15:39.000 And Disney is producing films in these regions.

01:15:41.000 And apparently none of it matters.

01:15:43.000 None of it matters to any one of these big corporations.

01:15:45.000 None of it matters to these.

01:15:46.000 That's right.

01:15:47.000 Money, money.

01:15:48.000 Got to get paid.

01:15:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I think a big difference between, you know, atrocities between China and, you

01:15:54.000 know, authoritarian countries in the past that have committed atrocities is that China

01:15:59.000 like we've never seen the amount of financial interest that China has with the with the

01:16:03.000 West.

01:16:05.000 It's incomparable to the Soviet Union or any of these other countries.

01:16:11.000 The influence China has over the biggest corporations in the world, the biggest corporations in America who are just drunk on their Chinese dollars.

01:16:21.000 That's the difference.

01:16:21.000 That's why it's all about money.

01:16:27.000 The way you were saying it was that you said the Chinese unleashed the virus on the world.

01:16:31.000 I want to create some nuance because I think it's more that there was a technocratic group of scientists that did it.

01:16:36.000 Well, at least they covered up what may have been a better... But the poor people, the people of China are like suffering. 0.99

01:16:43.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:16:44.000 I don't know.

01:16:44.000 I'm not there and I'm not a Chinese, but it looks like that they're underneath this substratum.

01:16:51.000 I don't... Mechanical authoritarianism or something.

01:16:53.000 I mean, I would somewhat agree with that, but what do you think they say about us?

01:16:57.000 I don't know.

01:16:57.000 Probably similar things.

01:16:59.000 They criticize our censorship on social media.

01:17:01.000 They criticize our police.

01:17:03.000 It was really interesting.

01:17:04.000 There's this meme of doctors walking down a hall and all these superheroes are bowing to them.

01:17:09.000 And I thought it was really interesting because bowing isn't really an American thing.

01:17:12.000 It's more of an Asian thing.

01:17:14.000 So I'm wondering, where did this meme come from?

01:17:17.000 And I'm not insinuating anything by it in terms of who made it.

01:17:20.000 I'm just wondering, you know, why wouldn't it be clapping?

01:17:24.000 I wonder if we evolved our bows to nods.

01:17:27.000 Well, what I mean is that it has long been widely believed that China, they have something called the 50 cent armies, they propagandize on the internet, they get paid to do it. 0.62

01:17:37.000 They're, you know, they're widely censored, but I think it's a fair assumption that part of the Cold War with China is that they're flooding our social media with divisive memes to create conflict and so division in this country. 0.70

01:17:52.000 Now, the advantage they have is that they've greatly censored the internet, preventing the US from doing similarly.

01:17:57.000 We?

01:17:57.000 Well, we're susceptible to it.

01:17:59.000 So imagine over in China, they're saying things like, the American people think they're free, they're not.

01:18:05.000 There's that hilarious propaganda video of North Korea where they're like, homeless people, they starve, they have no healthcare, and things like that.

01:18:13.000 Which are all technically the truth.

01:18:14.000 Of course, it's way better here than it is in North Korea. 0.63

01:18:17.000 But they highlight the worst of the worst and claim the worst possible things are happening.

01:18:21.000 And I'd be willing to bet that for a lot of people in China, they don't know anything about Uighur Muslims.

01:18:26.000 They have no idea it's happening.

01:18:28.000 So their media is all saying we're bad.

01:18:30.000 Our media is saying they're bad.

01:18:31.000 And here we are gearing up for some kind of conflict over Taiwan.

01:18:34.000 Well, for a lot of like Chinese college students who come to America, like my sister knew a few at her college.

01:18:38.000 They, they, they didn't know what Tiananmen Square was before they moved here.

01:18:42.000 They didn't know, you know, they didn't know about any of the, they didn't know what the Great Leap Forward was, how many people it killed before they came here.

01:18:49.000 It's, it's crazy.

01:18:50.000 Year zero, man.

01:18:52.000 Pol Pot. 0.89

01:18:52.000 Tiananmen Square is nuts. 0.89

01:18:54.000 That was what, 1993 when this happened?

01:18:55.000 Early 90s, yeah.

01:18:56.000 It was a big protest of college students and like, intelligentsia came out to protest communism and it was like, hey, we're here now.

01:19:02.000 We finally, this is it.

01:19:03.000 And they were, the communist government rolled out tanks and mowed down crowds of people.

01:19:07.000 The tank man, I'm sure, is like the one.

01:19:08.000 And then tries to censor it.

01:19:09.000 And on that day, they'll ban that word from different social sites and stuff.

01:19:16.000 It's hard to find it on that day because you can see the CCP is trying to stop people from knowing that it happened.

01:19:21.000 Yeah.

01:19:23.000 Someone superchatted something about BLM in China.

01:19:25.000 We'll read it when we get to superchats, but I just think it's going to be funny when invariably we get some celebrity or some athlete at the Olympics who raises the red salute and then yells something for Black Lives Matter in a country that's for sterilizing minorities. 0.98

01:19:40.000 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre.

01:19:42.000 It's not the first thing that comes up when you search for it, even on DuckDuckGo.

01:19:46.000 It's brutal, man.

01:19:47.000 I mean, I guess it's today, Tiananmen Square hotels, you know.

01:19:50.000 But I think people might view this as pessimistic.

01:19:54.000 I don't think it's so pessimistic, but I think China's going to win. 0.98

01:19:57.000 How do you mean win?

01:19:58.000 They're going to become the dominant global superpower.

01:20:01.000 All the countries will become deferential to China instead of the U.S.

01:20:04.000 China will expand military bases, they already are, all over the planet.

01:20:07.000 And then the United States will be kind of much more like Russia. So our cost of living will go up dramatically, you 0.95

01:20:14.000 know, we'll probably bring more labor and products will be manufactured in the U.S. 0.98

01:20:19.000 But life will generally get harder for most Americans. I don't think it's a bad thing. I think

01:20:26.000 American gluttony is resulting in this like lost generation. 0.94

01:20:32.000 The millennial generation are the softest of soft we've seen in a long time, and that's probably why we're, you know, the fourth turning stress our generational theory. 0.83

01:20:39.000 It's probably why things are getting bad in the first place.

01:20:41.000 These are people who don't work, don't want to work, complain about the little work they have to do, and demand the government pay them free, you know, just give them money for no reason.

01:20:47.000 The money comes out of the pockets of those who actually do work.

01:20:49.000 Sorry, but if you live in New York and you work for BuzzFeed, you're not actually producing anything of value to society.

01:20:54.000 And for that matter, I'll be completely real and say, I know a lot of people like this show, but damn, sometimes I'm surprised that we sit around a table talking about our thoughts and feelings, and we make more money than a plumber does. 0.97

01:21:06.000 Plumber actually makes sure your poop goes away. 0.70

01:21:08.000 That's, in many ways, the collective work of trades groups, electricians, machinists, as people noted before, substantially more value than even what we do.

01:21:16.000 To be fair to us, I understand that defending liberty, freedom, and supporting the working class who are actually making everything possible is still a good thing.

01:21:26.000 It's important to have a culture that maintains these values and ideas.

01:21:31.000 But man, we sure got a whole lot of millennials who do literally nothing and completely It's also Gen X, a lot of people.

01:21:37.000 It's the gut biome, I think, has destroyed motivation.

01:21:42.000 Too much of that gunk in your gut and you just get up and it's like, I'm tired.

01:21:48.000 I'm bored.

01:21:48.000 You don't understand that boredom is not supposed to happen.

01:21:52.000 Everything is so stimulating.

01:21:54.000 Clear your gut and you'll see it.

01:21:57.000 Well, I mean, I would, I think it's more of a willpower thing.

01:22:00.000 People are so well fed that they don't really have to hunger and they don't really chase things or seek out goals the way people of the past didn't.

01:22:09.000 Ian, I sort of hear what you're saying.

01:22:10.000 I wouldn't put it exactly that way.

01:22:12.000 I wouldn't say that boredom isn't supposed to happen.

01:22:15.000 I would say that it's something we're supposed to allow to happen so that we can find interesting things to focus on rather than just looking at our smartphone or seeing what's on television or browsing the internet.

01:22:26.000 Boredom shouldn't exist.

01:22:27.000 Yeah, when you're calm, it's the most relaxing thing.

01:22:31.000 Thoughts are an annoyance at that point.

01:22:34.000 I think that we should allow for moments of boredom to come because that's when creativity really starts to flourish.

01:22:40.000 You start coming up with ideas on your own or figuring out things to do.

01:22:43.000 We should define boredom.

01:22:44.000 If every time that boredom starts to kick in, you look at your phone and start scrolling, you're never going to be productive.

01:22:48.000 I don't think you're talking about boredom.

01:22:49.000 I think you're talking about listlessness or laziness or relaxation.

01:22:53.000 Yeah, I would define boredom as when, I think almost by definition, it's when you aren't sure what to focus on or nothing is grabbing your attention.

01:23:02.000 I would say boredom is when nothing is grabbing your attention.

01:23:04.000 I think that's a fair way of defining it.

01:23:05.000 I'm never bored.

01:23:06.000 I have not been lately.

01:23:09.000 I think sometimes it's good to allow yourself to be in a situation where you're not sure what to focus on because that means you're not looking at all the traditional things that are grasping for your attention at all times and you're trying to find something deeper.

01:23:21.000 You could be in a position where you're not focusing on anything, but not be bored, is a point I would like to make.

01:23:27.000 Boredom, in my opinion, is a result of... it's luxury-based stagnation.

01:23:34.000 It's that we live in such luxury that people can sit there and be like, I have literally nothing to do.

01:23:41.000 Well, if you have a mission, if you have drive and you have purpose, you literally will never experience that.

01:23:45.000 But for so many people, they have no purpose, boredom arises.

01:23:48.000 What do I do now?

01:23:50.000 I got off work, I have money for my bills, my rent is paid, what do I do?

01:23:54.000 Consume.

01:23:54.000 Boredom.

01:23:54.000 Yeah, put something in my stomach and then not have to create something because I'm busy digesting.

01:24:00.000 Yeah, I have downtime.

01:24:02.000 Downtime is like, man, I'm exhausted.

01:24:05.000 You know, so, here's what I did today.

01:24:08.000 I woke up immediately, got to work, finished work around two, immediately skated for two hours, ate food, and then sat for about an hour or so to try and just, like, rest.

01:24:19.000 Not boredom, exhaustion.

01:24:21.000 Then I get cleaned up to come on the show, and here we are on the show once again.

01:24:24.000 We're gonna finish the show, and then I'm gonna go to bed.

01:24:25.000 Then I'm gonna wake up and do it all over again.

01:24:27.000 On the weekends, it's relaxation, not boredom.

01:24:29.000 It's like, whew, I need to chill.

01:24:32.000 Wow, man, I am wiped out.

01:24:33.000 Yeah, I guess maybe we're defining the term differently, or maybe we disagree, but I think a little bit of boredom every now and again is healthy.

01:24:38.000 I bet we're slightly defining it differently.

01:24:40.000 Yeah, that could be possible.

01:24:41.000 Boredom, to me, is usually when someone, like you said, I don't know what to do, and you're sitting there confused, like what do I do?

01:24:46.000 You're not sure what to focus on.

01:24:47.000 Yeah, or the things that you should be doing are not immediately obvious to you.

01:24:53.000 What I think so often when people get that first dose of boredom, their instinct is to run to some form of entertainment.

01:25:00.000 I want to look at my phone.

01:25:01.000 I want to look at my computer.

01:25:02.000 I want to see what's on television.

01:25:04.000 Instead of sitting there and going, why don't I imagine a story?

01:25:07.000 Why don't I start picking at a guitar?

01:25:09.000 Why don't I learn an instrument or a hobby or something along those lines?

01:25:13.000 You see, that's... For someone like me, I've, I've had, you know, I've been bored before for, you know, to a certain degree, but for, for the most part, I probably experienced substantially left boredom.

01:25:26.000 And I think that's something you get when you're a kid.

01:25:28.000 I think it's something you, you know, if you grow up with no purpose and no meaning, you're probably going to find yourself bored very, very often, unsure of what to do with yourself.

01:25:37.000 For me, it was too much to do all the time.

01:25:39.000 I played music.

01:25:39.000 I skateboarded.

01:25:41.000 I was constantly reading the news.

01:25:42.000 I was constantly learning.

01:25:43.000 I used to do flash animations.

01:25:44.000 I used to make websites.

01:25:46.000 I was always just trying to do something, understand something, or solve something.

01:25:49.000 What was your diet like?

01:25:51.000 Did you guys eat a lot of sugar growing up?

01:25:53.000 Oh, I ate a lot of candy.

01:25:55.000 But was it allowed to have soda in the house?

01:25:57.000 Yeah.

01:25:59.000 Yeah, we had Fresca.

01:26:00.000 Oh.

01:26:01.000 And then we had Royal Crown Cola.

01:26:03.000 That was RC, way better than Pepsi or Coke.

01:26:06.000 Royal Clown.

01:26:07.000 We had sugar kind of banned.

01:26:10.000 It was kind of banned from our house.

01:26:11.000 My mom wouldn't let us have soda in the house.

01:26:13.000 So at the time I hated it because I always wanted sugar, sugar, sugar.

01:26:15.000 And I'd go to the drug mart and get sugar and like Lemonheads and, you know, Spree and all this.

01:26:20.000 But not having it in my diet helped me in later life.

01:26:24.000 I used to make video games back in the day.

01:26:27.000 I would do some Flash programming, I would do some... There was a thing called Click and Play, then Games Factory, and then Multimedia Fusion, I used those.

01:26:34.000 But then, so when I wasn't doing that, I was playing Magic the Gathering, I was playing Pokemon, I was skateboarding, so I was literally always doing something.

01:26:42.000 Just like, there was never a period of where I wasn't doing anything.

01:26:45.000 We weren't well off by any means.

01:26:46.000 My skateboard was always like, you'll get worn down, and then I'd be riding a, you know, crusty board for a while.

01:26:51.000 And then I didn't have the best cards ever, so it became really hard to be competitive in any of these things like Magic or whatever.

01:26:58.000 But I was always doing something.

01:26:59.000 It was, there was always somewhere to be.

01:27:00.000 And then if I wasn't doing any of those things, there was like, just people to hang out with, talk about, and so we were always off on adventures.

01:27:07.000 I gotta say, I think skateboarding is one of the most powerful things you can do for a kid.

01:27:10.000 Because when I first started skating, first of all, it gives you drive and direction.

01:27:13.000 You've got something to accomplish.

01:27:14.000 It's tangible.

01:27:15.000 It's in front of you.

01:27:16.000 You know how to do it.

01:27:17.000 You've seen people do it.

01:27:18.000 Now you need to accomplish it.

01:27:19.000 You get it.

01:27:20.000 What's the next step?

01:27:21.000 Then, what happens is, there's fears to overcome.

01:27:24.000 Dropping in on a halfpipe is scary, but you have to do it, and you're gonna fall the first time.

01:27:28.000 Not everybody, but 95% chance you're gonna fall and get hurt, and you have to if you want to overcome that hurdle.

01:27:33.000 Then the other thing that skateboarding does is, we started exploring.

01:27:36.000 Me and all my friends would travel around, going to different neighborhoods, trying to find new places to skate, meeting new people, expanding our reach throughout the city.

01:27:44.000 Then eventually I went to other cities and suburbs in other states, and then travel around the country.

01:27:48.000 Outside adventure.

01:27:49.000 That's a big part of it, being in nature.

01:27:51.000 I think Andrew Huberman, he's a neuroscientist, was saying, every human should, at least for 15 minutes a day, gaze into the horizon.

01:27:58.000 It does something to the brain.

01:27:59.000 He explains it way better than I do, but I suggest checking out Andrew Huberman.

01:28:03.000 He's a genius.

01:28:03.000 He has a great podcast on YouTube.

01:28:07.000 I know that it's such a boomer thing to say, but the only reason it's a boomer thing to say is because every generation before them said it, and it's like one of the wise things they actually retained, but kids just don't spend enough time outside anymore.

01:28:23.000 Yeah, it's sad because what you're talking about going out and exploring with your friends

01:28:26.000 I did similar things and we were fortunate because our parents didn't really want us to have game systems

01:28:30.000 We didn't get them till we were a bit older. We didn't have cable in our house

01:28:33.000 So we pretty much had to go outside and find things to do I knew so many kids in my generation and especially in the

01:28:38.000 generation a little bit after me where The kids kind of didn't really develop a personality

01:28:44.000 because all they were doing was focusing on electronics And I'm not saying that you can't develop skills or some

01:28:50.000 personality with electronics either You know, you like you said you can learn to code you can

01:28:54.000 learn to build computers That's all really productive

01:28:56.000 But it's just sad that this sense of exploration has been lost

01:29:00.000 Because so many kids will just find it in their video game system or nowadays in their smartphone

01:29:06.000 Well, something that was, I think, really good for me growing up is I was an athlete.

01:29:10.000 I think sports are a really important thing that you can do for a kid.

01:29:15.000 It teaches teamwork.

01:29:17.000 You're working towards a goal of winning with a bunch of people.

01:29:21.000 You meet friends that way.

01:29:23.000 So, for me, that was something that I think really helped me.

01:29:25.000 It also teaches you a lot of values of hard work, working hard to get to the highest level in your sport.

01:29:33.000 I think the world would be a better place if we had a lot of athletes.

01:29:37.000 Well, I think that's interesting.

01:29:40.000 One more thing I want to point out here, which is different between the time, and I know we're not all the same age, but the times, respectively, that we were all raised in, and how kids are being raised now, is even though we did have all sorts of, you know, distracting electronic gadgets, at least when you were outside, you were outside.

01:29:57.000 Now with these smartphones, they're constantly online, even when they're outdoors.

01:30:02.000 It's a very unhealthy thing.

01:30:03.000 Like, they don't get to take a break from that technological infrastructure The way we could when we were kids.

01:30:07.000 You could just kind of go out into the woods or go into the forest or go to your local pond with your siblings and really be in nature.

01:30:14.000 And that's not possible anymore because they always have everything at their fingertips.

01:30:17.000 I wonder if the Wi-Fi is agitating people too.

01:30:21.000 The countries in this upcoming civil war, the barriers, the borders, they're digital.

01:30:27.000 That's why, you know, Bill Maher was like, you know, we can't have a civil war because the Mason-Dixon line would go through Nana's kitchen. 0.94

01:30:33.000 So, well sure, people are now polarizing based on the ideology they hold based on digital boundaries.

01:30:41.000 So there are bubbles on Twitter.

01:30:43.000 There's a left bubble and a right bubble, and you can actually map it out.

01:30:45.000 There's been these really great visualizations showing how they, like, clash and then spread out, and you have, like, the right, which is mostly the far right, is all, like, destroyed and banned.

01:30:54.000 So you have, like, this big clump of, like, center-right, and then you have this huge splash of far-left.

01:31:00.000 Those are the borders of the upcoming, or the current Cold Civil War, whatever you want to call it.

01:31:06.000 I find that fascinating because there is an old George Bernard Shaw quote.

01:31:10.000 He said, the class warfare of the future will be fought between competing intellectual classes for the souls of our children.

01:31:18.000 That's great.

01:31:18.000 When did he make that quote?

01:31:19.000 Do you have any idea?

01:31:19.000 I'm not sure.

01:31:20.000 That's awesome.

01:31:21.000 That's true.

01:31:22.000 There you go, man.

01:31:23.000 When you were talking about sports and how great they are, I had an experience where when I was a kid in fifth grade, I used to play sports, soccer and baseball.

01:31:28.000 And then my mom put me in baseball in fifth grade, but which they didn't do.

01:31:31.000 I was like, can I go practice batting cage?

01:31:33.000 And we don't have the money.

01:31:34.000 Sorry.

01:31:35.000 So I couldn't practice.

01:31:36.000 And so putting a kid in sport, but not putting them in a place to practice the sport was very embarrassing for me.

01:31:42.000 Cause I didn't know how to play baseball and I was the worst kid on the team and my friends turned their backs on me.

01:31:46.000 So it was really ostracizing.

01:31:48.000 Well, that's the thing about skateboarding, is that skateparks are typically free, open to the public, and there's tons of people there to hang out with.

01:31:53.000 Yeah, it's more of a free, easy-to-practice sport.

01:31:56.000 Yep.

01:31:58.000 Yeah, I mean, I get that.

01:31:59.000 Like, it's not... Obviously, if your kid doesn't like it, or, you know, he doesn't enjoy it, then it's not... I actually really enjoyed it.

01:32:05.000 Yeah.

01:32:06.000 Just a shout-out to all you parents out there.

01:32:08.000 If you're gonna put your kids in sports, make sure you get them training.

01:32:10.000 Put them in training as well.

01:32:12.000 It's just as important as the performance.

01:32:14.000 Yeah.

01:32:15.000 Alright, let's read.

01:32:16.000 Let's read Super Chats.

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01:32:29.000 So alright, let's read some more.

01:32:32.000 Alright, I can't read the name of the first Super Chatter because YouTube blocks it off for some reason, but they said, The blockade at our legislative building in Regina, Saskatchewan.

01:32:41.000 I was not, uh, I was not there, but last night, a crazy amount of police cleared them out.

01:32:46.000 I'm yet to go by today, how sad.

01:32:49.000 Crazy.

01:32:50.000 Christopher Chapman says, I love big honkers, but seriously, how can you ban honking? 0.99

01:32:55.000 Screw these monsters, time for a Canadian revolution! 0.95

01:32:58.000 Well, the people of Canada are standing up for themselves, and non-violent civil disobedience is working beautifully. 0.98

01:33:03.000 I just refreshed Twitter and the first tweet is, honk.

01:33:08.000 Alien scientist.

01:33:09.000 Jamie Riss, yeah.

01:33:10.000 Right on.

01:33:11.000 Honk! 0.69

01:33:11.000 The cure for a clown world was honking? 0.69

01:33:16.000 That's so ridiculous. 0.99

01:33:17.000 Who would have thought that honking could bring so many people together? 0.99

01:33:20.000 Yeah, man.

01:33:22.000 Happy Canuck says, in Ontario honking at random was already illegal to do.

01:33:26.000 It is in the Traffic Act and counts as aggressive driving.

01:33:29.000 In Chicago, it's improper use of horn.

01:33:33.000 So if you just honk randomly, they can give you a ticket for it, I guess.

01:33:38.000 William Leverett says, the trucker protest is safe and effective.

01:33:42.000 Well, alright then.

01:33:44.000 Atherin says, I want to give a shout out to Atawalkz on YouTube.

01:33:49.000 He is a walking live streamer who has become even more popular during the honking.

01:33:53.000 He crossed paths with Viva Frye today as well.

01:33:55.000 Viva's great.

01:33:57.000 And a shout out to Atawalkz.

01:33:59.000 Do you guys know any other good streamers that are up there covering?

01:34:01.000 All the Rebel News guys, for sure.

01:34:03.000 The Rebel News guys have done the best job.

01:34:05.000 There are a bunch of hot dogs in the chat where people are posting hot dogs and then saying Portland Andy.

01:34:10.000 He's not there.

01:34:11.000 He's just live-streaming.

01:34:14.000 He's not in Ottawa.

01:34:15.000 He's just live-streaming the coverage, I think.

01:34:19.000 He's not in Ottawa.

01:34:19.000 He's just live-streaming the coverage.

01:34:21.000 So he's not on the ground?

01:34:22.000 Yeah.

01:34:24.000 So he's picking up other people's streams or something?

01:34:26.000 I don't know.

01:34:27.000 Kind of Rikita-lawing it?

01:34:29.000 Rikita-lawing it?

01:34:30.000 Maybe, yeah.

01:34:32.000 Ethan says, Ian, you rolled a 1 when you were doing your introduction, but here is a 20 for spiritual mind drugs, because I love you.

01:34:38.000 Thank you so much.

01:34:41.000 Archa McGeeris says, the Canadian goose is my favorite Pokemon.

01:34:45.000 I want a shirt of that goose.

01:34:48.000 What is it?

01:34:48.000 Mesa-boot?

01:34:48.000 Honk-a-boot?

01:35:00.000 I'm a genius.

01:35:01.000 Michael says, I am an OTR driver and trainer.

01:35:03.000 Most company drivers, like myself, can't get to the protest.

01:35:06.000 Really wish you can get an active driver to come on.

01:35:08.000 Lots of the public doesn't get it.

01:35:09.000 Blow the train horns!

01:35:11.000 All right.

01:35:12.000 Cyrese says, they can shut down tens of thousands of protesters, but they can't shut down millions.

01:35:16.000 Stand up for your rights because no one else will.

01:35:18.000 Keep up the good work, fellas and lady.

01:35:20.000 Definitely.

01:35:22.000 Oh, here we go.

01:35:23.000 P. Deitel says, flashing your headlights.

01:35:26.000 Warn of cops ahead is protected by the First Amendment.

01:35:28.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:35:29.000 But is it a civil offense then or something?

01:35:31.000 Flashing your head like this?

01:35:33.000 Yeah, because I've heard people could get pulled over for that.

01:35:35.000 Maybe because it supposedly is disrupting traffic.

01:35:36.000 Maybe that's why they pull it over.

01:35:38.000 I don't know, man.

01:35:40.000 The dangerous thing about a cop trying to claim your honking was improper or whatever, it's like, how do they prove that?

01:35:46.000 Exactly.

01:35:47.000 With a radar detector, with a radar gun, they can be like, you were going seven miles an hour over the limit.

01:35:51.000 That's a speeding ticket.

01:35:52.000 And then you go to court and he's like, here's the readout, your honor.

01:35:55.000 It's like he was speeding.

01:35:56.000 And then, you know, now they have dash cams and all that stuff.

01:35:59.000 But if they were like, he uses horn improperly, I'd be like, oh, there was a fox.

01:36:03.000 Also, how can they be scared out of the way, but I want to hit it.

01:36:05.000 It's like unless they have footage They can't even prove that you honked at all.

01:36:08.000 Yeah, I guess if they're wearing body cameras Yeah, people are saying now that apparently they're gonna go around with empty gas cans all over the place So the cops are forced to stop everybody, but they don't have anything brilliant.

01:36:18.000 They always find a way man It's like the plants growing up out of the concrete Yep.

01:36:22.000 It's just like that.

01:36:23.000 It's like, you remember, I forget what European country this happened in, but there was like some European, like, city that banned fireworks.

01:36:30.000 And there was like this video that went really viral on Twitter of just like millions of fireworks going into the air in the city.

01:36:35.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:35.000 I think LA, I think, banned fireworks on the 4th of July.

01:36:39.000 And then people were flying in.

01:36:40.000 There were fireworks everywhere.

01:36:41.000 There were so many last time I was there.

01:36:42.000 This is what you need to understand.

01:36:43.000 They want to convince you that the small fringe minority of 8% is the 90%. 0.98

01:36:50.000 But I'll tell you this.

01:36:52.000 They're saying the same thing about the truckers.

01:36:53.000 That they're a fringe minority.

01:36:55.000 Yeah, that's the biggest trucker convoy the world has ever seen.

01:36:58.000 And when you see them ban fireworks, and then a plane is coming in and everyone's lighting them off?

01:37:03.000 Yo! 1.00

01:37:04.000 You are with the majority.

01:37:06.000 The government is lying to you.

01:37:09.000 Unrealized Potential says, Silence is violence, Ian.

01:37:13.000 The honk is the way.

01:37:14.000 Ooh, I like you.

01:37:17.000 Raymond Loera says, bring back the soccer Vuvuzelas.

01:37:20.000 Remember those Vuvuzelas?

01:37:21.000 They're the big horns and they're like, brrrr, and everybody was blowing them all the time.

01:37:25.000 I gotta look it up. Yeah, Voo Voo Zella. Those got banned from everywhere. Yeah. Sounds about right. People were 1.00

01:37:31.000 blowing those horns.

01:37:32.000 Murph says, Ian, the truckers mega horn comet totally made me think of the Power Rangers vehicles. Honk honk.

01:37:40.000 Yeah, it's like Burning Man too. You start to hear 10,000 radios all blasting it once it becomes one song.

01:37:45.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:37:50.000 Patricia says, can they be prosecuted if they record honking and play it on a loudspeaker?

01:37:55.000 Not honking, right?

01:37:56.000 I mean, that's really interesting.

01:37:57.000 What if someone just writes a song that has a bunch of honking in it, and the song is just really, really low, but the honking is really, really loud?

01:38:06.000 In the U.S., you need a permit to use a megaphone or any kind of electrical audio equipment in New York.

01:38:13.000 I don't know about Canadian law.

01:38:15.000 Interesting.

01:38:16.000 Rilo says like it or not. Everyone is in this fight over freedom

01:38:19.000 Rogan knew the rules took aside and capitulated where folks with less security put everything on the line and stood 0.99

01:38:25.000 strong Your friend is a coward 0.98

01:38:27.000 You know what man? I Won't I won't look at it like so black and white I 1.00

01:38:35.000 I can only just say if you're watching this show and you think we do a good job, you can thank Joe Rogan for helping make this possible.

01:38:42.000 And that's, that's the important thing.

01:38:43.000 If Joe decides that he's tired and he's, you know, he doesn't want to be involved in this, he's done so much good for everybody outside of literally helping us heal from sickness, helping, you know, Having me on his show.

01:38:57.000 I understand me going on a show was good for him, too You know we have guests come on the show.

01:39:00.000 It's good for us.

01:39:01.000 It's good for everybody, but I Think I think he's done so much good like I'll put it this way out of 100 good that Joe Rogan has done There's like in my view like too bad You know what I mean?

01:39:12.000 So it's like, I'm not gonna be mad at the guy.

01:39:15.000 He's earned so much goodwill and credit for me.

01:39:17.000 It sort of strikes me like how sometimes they'll come up and you'll say, is it worth sacrificing 99% of the things you can say so you can say that one thing that's gonna get you banned?

01:39:25.000 And it's kind of like Joe.

01:39:26.000 He's like, I'm not gonna worry about this one thing.

01:39:29.000 I'm just putting it away.

01:39:30.000 But that's admittedly a defeat.

01:39:32.000 Sometimes retreat is the best option.

01:39:35.000 Well, so that's the way I describe it.

01:39:37.000 I'm like, you know, I tell people here, I've said it on the show, if there's a hundred things I want to say, one of them will get us banned.

01:39:43.000 We'll say the 99 things and then put the one thing on the website for everyone to see, or we'll put it up on the podcast platforms on Sundays or whatever to try and make sure we're doing something to get it out.

01:39:53.000 We do have a paywall for member content because the website costs money.

01:39:55.000 It costs money every time someone watches a video when we're trying to grow the operation and do all that stuff.

01:39:58.000 That's just, you know, business.

01:40:00.000 But, uh, it's also me basically saying, we have taken from our heap of sand but one grain and handed it to the other side.

01:40:07.000 And that means if everyone keeps doing that, they eventually win.

01:40:09.000 It's not a winning scenario.

01:40:11.000 It's admitting defeat and explaining why we did.

01:40:14.000 So I'm not happy about it.

01:40:16.000 Well, retreat is different than defeat.

01:40:18.000 You can retreat and then win.

01:40:20.000 We've ceded certain territories for the sake of trying to maintain the center.

01:40:24.000 And so sometimes you sacrifice a piece in chess to try and gain the upper hand, and it works.

01:40:29.000 But it's not easy.

01:40:30.000 So in this instance, I say the same thing of Joe.

01:40:33.000 I'm not a fan of his—I think the apology will backfire.

01:40:36.000 I think it is backfiring.

01:40:37.000 I think it's bad for him across the board.

01:40:40.000 It's not, you know, he can do whatever he wants, you know, I think it was a mistake.

01:40:43.000 I think it's a mistake as an apology, I think it's a mistake culturally, I think it's a mistake for the benefit of his business.

01:40:49.000 I just don't see any scenario in which apologizing will do anything for him.

01:40:53.000 If he's upset that he has friends like Dave Chappelle, and, you know, they don't like the fact that he said this word or whatever, he can say it to them, but doing the public statement only makes more people hate him.

01:41:04.000 Interesting.

01:41:05.000 It makes it worse.

01:41:06.000 So it's like he got a little bit of taint, and now he's going in the water, and if he puts it out there, it's gonna spread out to a bunch of other stuff.

01:41:14.000 I'll put it this way.

01:41:15.000 You are standing on a big stage, and there are 11 million people all watching you and staring at you on the microphone.

01:41:22.000 And then someone right in front of the stage is holding up a video of you doing awful things.

01:41:27.000 So you look at it, take the microphone and go, Hey, there's a video right here to everybody who can hear me of me doing really awful things.

01:41:33.000 I'm sorry I did it.

01:41:34.000 And then everyone in the audience is like, Whoa, we didn't know you did that.

01:41:37.000 So that's the main issue with doing blanket apologies.

01:41:42.000 Joe's voice is louder than the activists who are smearing him.

01:41:45.000 Joe amplified their voice with his own, multiplying the negative impact.

01:41:53.000 We're living in social science, right?

01:41:55.000 We're doing social science as we live.

01:41:57.000 I love this.

01:41:58.000 I think Joe's probably not even paying attention to a lot of this stuff.

01:42:02.000 I hope not.

01:42:02.000 Just cool your mind, bud.

01:42:04.000 Yeah, I think he's just doing his thing.

01:42:06.000 I wish him all the best, man.

01:42:07.000 And I feel bad that there's so much conversation around him that we keep talking about him because I'm sure it's annoying.

01:42:14.000 But he's got the biggest podcast in the world and one of the biggest shows in history.

01:42:18.000 So it's like, geez, gotta talk about it, you know?

01:42:21.000 For sure.

01:42:21.000 Influencing everything.

01:42:23.000 Kason Womble says, Seamus, your argument on abortion, your vid on Freedom Tunes changed my stance from choice to life.

01:42:30.000 And Tim, if companies will turn over private texts, what could Amazon do with Alexa's if they record?

01:42:37.000 We got one over there.

01:42:38.000 Is it yelling at me now?

01:42:39.000 They do record.

01:42:40.000 They're recording all the time.

01:42:42.000 I believe.

01:42:42.000 So in order for a device to be activated by voice, the microphone has to be on.

01:42:49.000 Now you understand.

01:42:51.000 Thank you.

01:42:51.000 Yeah.

01:42:51.000 Also, I want to take a moment to respond to that.

01:42:53.000 First of all, thank you for that super chat.

01:42:54.000 I very much appreciate that.

01:42:57.000 I've done a few videos on abortion.

01:43:00.000 I'm glad that one of them reached you and that you changed your position and are now fighting for the unborn.

01:43:08.000 I mean, hearing that kind of thing really, really makes this worth it.

01:43:11.000 So genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.

01:43:12.000 Do you know what the video is?

01:43:14.000 I've done a couple on abortion.

01:43:15.000 It's probably the recent one.

01:43:16.000 It's probably the most recent one. 0.98

01:43:17.000 Where the leftist is calling the baby a parasite, but he's refusing to get a job. 0.97

01:43:21.000 Oh, yeah, yes. 0.94

01:43:22.000 Okay, yes, that was probably, it could have been that one.

01:43:25.000 Well, either way, thank you so much.

01:43:27.000 I, again, massively appreciate it.

01:43:29.000 All right, Lucas Parada says, freedom protesters were arrested for bringing fuel to the truckers.

01:43:34.000 So today, most protesters started carrying around empty gas cans.

01:43:38.000 They are genius.

01:43:39.000 That is very, very clever.

01:43:40.000 That's very cool.

01:43:41.000 Yep.

01:43:42.000 Nathan Brubaker says, CBC receives 1.5 billion dollars in taxpayer dollars from the Liberals in Canada.

01:43:49.000 Comparisons can be made to North Korea's government monopoly on media.

01:43:52.000 Yep.

01:43:54.000 That's government-funded media for you.

01:43:58.000 Roberto says, word on the internet, 4chan already figured out where Trudeau is.

01:44:03.000 Where's that?

01:44:03.000 Don't surprise me.

01:44:05.000 Trashpanda says, honk honk to Canadian Boogaloo, we're not your buddy, guy.

01:44:10.000 Indeed not.

01:44:10.000 Oh, Honk Honk 2, Canadian Boo-Galoo.

01:44:12.000 I get it, I get it.

01:44:12.000 Indeed not.

01:44:14.000 All right.

01:44:15.000 Brado says, if kicked out, truckers should simply stop delivering to Ottawa.

01:44:19.000 We can fund their living on Give, Send, Go.

01:44:22.000 Yay or nay, what other option is there?

01:44:25.000 Well, 50,000 truckers.

01:44:27.000 How many truckers are there?

01:44:29.000 A hundred thousand?

01:44:29.000 I don't know.

01:44:30.000 I think it's only like a hundred.

01:44:31.000 Let me look it up.

01:44:32.000 A hundred thousand.

01:44:33.000 How many truckers work in Canada?

01:44:35.000 Let me look it up.

01:44:36.000 500?

01:44:37.000 100,000.

01:44:38.000 100,000?

01:44:39.000 Half of them are protesting?

01:44:42.000 Jeez.

01:44:43.000 S.A.S.P. says, Ambassador Bridge between Detroit and Canada has been taken

01:44:48.000 over by protesters.

01:44:50.000 Oh my.

01:44:50.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:44:51.000 I just saw a number that in 2018 there were 312,000 truck drivers in Canada, up from 55,000 18 years earlier.

01:44:56.000 So from 55 to 312 in 18 years.

01:44:56.000 year to 18 years earlier.

01:44:59.000 312 in 18 years. That's u Mark says Tim, did you se

01:45:05.000 down the pack members beh It's all about a power display and creating value as the most powerful left-wing character assassins.

01:45:13.000 I saw that he had posted it.

01:45:14.000 Dave Portnoy is a rad dude, as far as I'm concerned, and he's suing the media for smearing him.

01:45:18.000 I think he's fantastic.

01:45:20.000 And a big fan of Barstool Sports, just because they opened that new Barstool Sports book and they have, like, good chicken wings over at the casino.

01:45:26.000 It's really awesome.

01:45:27.000 There's like a gigantic 20-foot screen.

01:45:29.000 It'd be fun to get Dave over here and go to the casino and do a barstool thing.

01:45:33.000 That would be super rad.

01:45:34.000 It would be super rad to have Dave come out.

01:45:37.000 But he's a super famous, busy guy with so much going on. 0.68

01:45:41.000 It's so hilarious and wild to me that Insider told one of their reporters to spend eight months interviewing every single woman that Dave Portnoy has ever had sex with.

01:45:52.000 Imagine having to do that. 0.82

01:45:55.000 You have to track down every woman that a guy's ever had sex with. 0.58

01:45:57.000 You find four, three or four, however many it was, who didn't even enjoy it, but he didn't do anything wrong, and then put it under a byline that suggests he's a sexual predator.

01:46:06.000 Why, you know, could you imagine?

01:46:08.000 Are there other stories that could take much of your time other than this?

01:46:12.000 Like, what the heck?

01:46:13.000 And Portnoy's basically debunked it all.

01:46:16.000 He's published the messages being like, look at them, they're begging.

01:46:18.000 Like, I gotta be honest, literally, they are.

01:46:20.000 There's messages where they're like, I want, you know, you know what I'm saying.

01:46:25.000 And they've put all these stories behind paywalls.

01:46:27.000 Oh yeah. 0.99

01:46:28.000 Oh, so you buy it to read it and then go I was stupid, but he's suing him good for him, man 0.94

01:46:34.000 Yeah, you know he said he said a lot of people said like why do it? 0.94

01:46:37.000 He was like look there They've released these stories right before the earnings

01:46:41.000 calls for for pen gaming like they're trying you know what man. I would not be surprised

01:46:46.000 Let's just separate ourselves from that conversation. I just say they're probably news organizations that

01:46:52.000 Will put you know options or something put options on stock or short of stock

01:46:57.000 publish a negative story, and then profit.

01:47:01.000 Brilliant.

01:47:02.000 Yup.

01:47:02.000 So illegal.

01:47:03.000 It's like federally.

01:47:05.000 In 1908, they would have just been trashed.

01:47:08.000 A company would have been ripped to shreds for doing something like that 150 years ago.

01:47:13.000 Isn't there that famous story that, like, after the Napoleonic Wars or something, the guy, like, rode on a horseback to England with a message that Napoleon had lost, but then they claimed that Napoleon won, so the stock collapsed.

01:47:28.000 It was in England.

01:47:29.000 Yeah, I heard that story.

01:47:30.000 I'd have to pull up the exacts.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, I heard that.

01:47:32.000 Like, this has been happening for a long time, bro.

01:47:34.000 Like, they spread the word that Napoleon won, so everyone was selling off everything like crazy.

01:47:37.000 Rich people bought it off for super cheap, and then the actual word got out, Napoleon lost, and then everything skyrocketed in value.

01:47:43.000 I'll see if I can find it. I was reading something about that. I don't know what that is.

01:47:46.000 I don't know if that's true or not or just you know some...

01:47:48.000 Maybe.

01:47:50.000 Yeah, it'd be super rad to have Dave Portnoy on.

01:47:53.000 I don't know if he's too busy.

01:47:54.000 But, you know, as this show gets bigger, we're getting more and more interest from more and more famous people, so that's a cool thing.

01:48:01.000 Yeah, I'm excited.

01:48:02.000 That's why I'm here.

01:48:03.000 I mean, yeah, it was really hard to book Seamus.

01:48:05.000 Time for my freedom tunes over here.

01:48:07.000 Joe says, Joe Rogan rumble, my dwack stonks is gonna moon!

01:48:12.000 But I don't think rumble is dwack, it's that other thing.

01:48:15.000 What is it, CVI or something?

01:48:17.000 CLVI or something like that?

01:48:18.000 Dwack is Trump's one, right?

01:48:19.000 Yeah.

01:48:21.000 Gat Perry says, Just finished Rogan's episode with Jordan Peterson.

01:48:23.000 It's crazy how JBP almost foreshadows what was about to happen to Joe.

01:48:27.000 Hoping Joe ends up following the advice Peterson gave him.

01:48:31.000 Certainly.

01:48:32.000 Certainly, certainly.

01:48:34.000 Zerocifer says, Ian, these people chose to live in the capital where protests will happen.

01:48:39.000 Would you feel bad for people that chose to make a home next to an active volcano then complain that there is lava that makes their life hard?

01:48:46.000 That's a very good point.

01:48:47.000 I was watching video of a simulation of what it would have been like in Pompeii, the day of the eruption, and you can just watch it.

01:48:55.000 It's on YouTube actually.

01:48:56.000 There's like a long 20 minute simulation of like a day in Pompeii when it goes Did they all instantly die from the pyroclastic flow?

01:49:03.000 Not all of them.

01:49:04.000 It started the heat, the singeing smoke came down and started to coat and burn everyone.

01:49:09.000 But one guy, I think it was Pliny the Elder, had left the city, but he came back by boat to rescue his family, and when he got back to the city, he got killed by the volcano.

01:49:17.000 So they mostly didn't get swept up in lava, wasn't it?

01:49:21.000 It was pyroplastic flow.

01:49:22.000 Covered by ash.

01:49:23.000 Yeah, it's the shockwave of hot gases that spray out and sweep and then hit you and then you can't breathe and then you burn and then die.

01:49:31.000 Oh man.

01:49:32.000 I think that's what it was.

01:49:32.000 What a city.

01:49:34.000 My parents got to visit.

01:49:35.000 I want to go there someday.

01:49:36.000 Remember when that... Wasn't there like a volcano eruption in New Zealand or something?

01:49:39.000 And a bunch of people got like vaporized or some crazy whatever?

01:49:42.000 I don't know.

01:49:42.000 Oh, I found some of this info on the Napoleonic defeat.

01:49:46.000 British in Paris after defeat of Napoleon.

01:49:48.000 It's 1815.

01:49:48.000 I'm not going to go into it too long right now, but if you guys want to look it up.

01:49:51.000 History of Banking, 1815, Napoleon.

01:49:53.000 I think you'll find it there.

01:49:55.000 But what happened?

01:49:56.000 Well, I gotta read more.

01:49:57.000 Let me tell you about it tomorrow.

01:49:58.000 All right.

01:49:59.000 I'll bring it.

01:49:59.000 I'll come back with it.

01:50:02.000 Legendary Aces, have you ever seen Psycho Pass?

01:50:04.000 It's an anime in a dystopia where your latent criminality is tracked by your thoughts and actions.

01:50:09.000 If you're deemed a criminal, enforcers will be sent after you.

01:50:13.000 Yikes.

01:50:14.000 It's a minority report.

01:50:16.000 Good movie, too.

01:50:17.000 It was a Philip K. Dick short story, wasn't it?

01:50:21.000 I don't know.

01:50:22.000 They can arrest you for a crime you did not yet commit.

01:50:25.000 Exciting.

01:50:27.000 The Narcoleptic Rant says, Timcast is my birthday and I released a song y'all might like.

01:50:31.000 The bare shelves Biden blues.

01:50:34.000 Keep up the great work.

01:50:34.000 Right on.

01:50:35.000 So I played that Will of the People game.

01:50:37.000 Itch.io, Will of the People.

01:50:39.000 Someone mentioned that they'd made the game.

01:50:41.000 It's actually really clever.

01:50:42.000 It's pretty good.

01:50:44.000 There are three factions and you're trying to propagandize and manipulate people into gaining power.

01:50:48.000 And then when you finally gain power, the wheel rotates and then your faction takes over.

01:50:53.000 And then you can do marches and like, you know, propagandize and stuff.

01:50:57.000 So you're like trying to figure out how to get the highest score?

01:50:59.000 I'm gonna tell you about this Napoleon thing, get it out of the way.

01:51:03.000 It's called the Napoleon is Dead, the Great Stock Exchange Fraud of 1814.

01:51:07.000 And this is from thehistorypress.co.uk.

01:51:11.000 For as long as they've existed, stock markets have attracted fraudsters.

01:51:14.000 Early stock exchange scam involving one of the great seamen of the age, Lord Cochran, is a powerful and fascinating tale of greed, deceit, and public humiliation.

01:51:20.000 In February 1814, news arrived in Dover that the French had been defeated and Napoleon killed.

01:51:26.000 By the time the London Stock Exchange opened, the city was full of rumors of a great Allied victory.

01:51:29.000 The price of government bonds rose so rapidly, and a syndicate of speculators took the opportunity to offload its recent acquired holdings at highly favorable prices.

01:51:39.000 But this was before he was defeated?

01:51:41.000 Yeah, they spread a rumor that he'd been defeated and killed.

01:51:44.000 And all the value started to go up, and then they sold off.

01:51:47.000 And then he'd actually won.

01:51:49.000 And they found out he was alive, and all the prices dropped back down, but they had already sold out.

01:51:53.000 So it was the opposite of what I was saying.

01:51:55.000 And then he eventually decided to invade Russia in the winter.

01:51:58.000 We know how that works out for people.

01:52:00.000 Yeah, don't do that.

01:52:01.000 I like this meme.

01:52:02.000 People are like, there's a war about to break out with Ukraine and Russia and the U.S.

01:52:06.000 is sending soldiers.

01:52:07.000 And someone tweeted, is Russia good at winter war?

01:52:09.000 It's like, ha ha ha ha ha.

01:52:12.000 There was a, I saw a really great tweet from a, his name's Oren McIntyre.

01:52:15.000 I don't think, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, but he tweeted, after failing in Afghanistan, the graveyard of empires, the ruling class has turned their attention to fighting a war in Russia in the winter.

01:52:29.000 Rilo says Rogan most definitely took a side against cancel culture.

01:52:33.000 He laid it all out when he had Alex Jones on his show.

01:52:35.000 You are biased because he helped you.

01:52:38.000 I'm confused by what that means though.

01:52:40.000 Like you're saying he opposes cancel culture.

01:52:42.000 I've seen clips of Joe, and I've seen enough of his show to think that he understands apologizing doesn't work, and I think he's even talked about it before.

01:52:50.000 So, I don't know.

01:52:51.000 I don't think how my bias, because Joe helped me, would make me critical of him.

01:52:57.000 The bias would make me be like, Joe could do no wrong!

01:53:01.000 But I wouldn't say that of anybody.

01:53:04.000 We all have the demon within us.

01:53:07.000 McChilla says, if Joe thinks he's protecting his show by censoring himself, he's delusional.

01:53:11.000 His fanbase will drop quicker than FB stock if he continues to bend the knee to the establishment.

01:53:17.000 I'm gonna say this.

01:53:19.000 You know, I think back to when I was just in my living room in the Philadelphia suburbs.

01:53:24.000 I had two YouTube channels.

01:53:26.000 It was before I went on Joe's show.

01:53:29.000 I had 180,000 subs.

01:53:30.000 I was making good money.

01:53:31.000 I was making a good amount of money on my own just doing like, you know, three videos or four videos per day.

01:53:39.000 I was like, reading the news in the morning, I would be done by about 3 p.m.

01:53:43.000 I'd have the rest of the day to do my thing and, you know, we'd go out to get pizza and we'd hang out, skate in the back, and then play Magic the Gathering.

01:53:51.000 And then I was like, let's do more work!

01:53:53.000 Let's do a lot more work.

01:53:54.000 And now all of a sudden I have, we have this show, which is way bigger than I ever thought it was going to be.

01:53:59.000 This show is way bigger than my main channel, which went from, you know, it's 10 times bigger than it, than it, you know, than it was before.

01:54:06.000 So now this show has grown so large.

01:54:07.000 We're getting swatted.

01:54:08.000 We're getting DDoS.

01:54:09.000 We have all of this crazy business expansion.

01:54:11.000 We have employees and I'm just like, I wonder if Joe is just sitting there thinking like, dude, I just want to smoke weed with my friends and talk about aliens.

01:54:19.000 Like this is crazy.

01:54:20.000 He does that anyway.

01:54:20.000 Yeah.

01:54:21.000 But it's just like at a certain point, he might just be saying, what is going on?

01:54:25.000 Like, why I never wanted to do this.

01:54:27.000 You should have him on your show and interview him.

01:54:30.000 He hasn't done a lot of interviews lately.

01:54:31.000 It'd be a good interview.

01:54:32.000 He's too busy, man.

01:54:33.000 Maybe now's the time.

01:54:34.000 He popped in when we were in Austin, but you know, he's a busy guy.

01:54:37.000 So, you know, man, part of me thinks there's a lot of philosophy.

01:54:43.000 A lot of people say more money, more problems.

01:54:46.000 A lot of people, you know, say like money won't make you happy and stuff like that.

01:54:50.000 There's a fine balance between being a psychotic workaholic You know, like me, and then kind of accepting when you have a good salary and just having time to, you know, play with like playing games, card games with your friends and work on side projects and just chill.

01:55:06.000 And then I've just been like, literally, I feel like if I, if I, if I feel I can't, it's painful for me to stop.

01:55:14.000 It's painful for me to stop moving.

01:55:15.000 You'd be a good dad.

01:55:17.000 It is painful for me to stop working.

01:55:20.000 Good.

01:55:20.000 Cause kids need your constant attention.

01:55:22.000 Yeah, I guess, man.

01:55:25.000 Sub-constant.

01:55:26.000 Like Joe Rogan, he could stop at any time.

01:55:29.000 And like, why isn't he?

01:55:30.000 There's a reason why he's so rich and successful is because he can't.

01:55:33.000 He can't stop.

01:55:33.000 He's got to keep going.

01:55:34.000 He's got to keep making it happen.

01:55:36.000 I wonder if at a certain point everybody reaches that retirement age where they're just like, I'm done.

01:55:40.000 You know, I've fought the battle and now it's time to just chill and go fishing and raise my kids and play some music.

01:55:48.000 Yeah, like the Stones are still touring.

01:55:50.000 That's pretty badass.

01:55:52.000 Yeah, man.

01:55:53.000 I guess what do you call retiring doing what you love?

01:55:54.000 Mick Jagger also like a couple years ago had a baby with a 29-year-old at the age of like 70, however old he is now.

01:56:00.000 Whoa.

01:56:01.000 Pretty impressive.

01:56:01.000 Yeah, Clint Eastwood did that too, I think.

01:56:03.000 Maybe not 29-year-old, I'm not sure.

01:56:05.000 He has young kids.

01:56:06.000 Oh, this is interesting.

01:56:07.000 Derek Curtis says, JP Sears and Zion just offered Joe Rogan $100 million in Bitcoin to join them.

01:56:12.000 Do they have $100 million in Bitcoin?

01:56:13.000 Sweet.

01:56:14.000 Depends on where the market's at, I guess.

01:56:16.000 They're just like hoping it goes back up.

01:56:18.000 Here's the crazy thing.

01:56:19.000 If you told me JP Sears was worth 70 million dollars because he had Bitcoin, I'd be like, wow.

01:56:26.000 I know a lot of people who bought a bunch of Bitcoin when it was worth nothing.

01:56:29.000 I know.

01:56:29.000 And it's like 10 years later, they're billionaires.

01:56:31.000 Yeah, the money is out of control.

01:56:33.000 If you really understood how billionaire people got, before it was even taxed.

01:56:37.000 My story is that I wanted to buy 7,500 Bitcoin in 2011, and my friend told me not to do it because it was like worthless, you couldn't do anything with it.

01:56:47.000 And I was like, yeah, sure, fine, you know, you're probably right.

01:56:49.000 And then when it hit $5, I was like, no!

01:56:51.000 Because it went from $0.70 to $5.

01:56:53.000 It's too late!

01:56:54.000 I can't get in anymore.

01:56:55.000 I lost my chance.

01:56:56.000 It was like $7,333 Bitcoin or something like that.

01:56:59.000 Imagine if I had that much Bitcoin.

01:57:01.000 I actually thought when Ethereum was $10 that I'd missed the boat and it was too expensive to get $10.

01:57:05.000 I didn't realize at the time the incremental purchase power.

01:57:08.000 It's just more about the percentage of the increase and how much of a percentage of your wealth you put into it. 0.94

01:57:12.000 When Ethereum was at a hundred bucks, I was like, damn, missed that one.

01:57:17.000 But then I had this revelation. 0.99

01:57:19.000 I was just sitting there and I was like, every single time I say to myself that Bitcoin's too expensive, I realize I was an idiot and it's going to keep getting more and more valuable. 0.57

01:57:27.000 So then when Bitcoin was at like a thousand, I bought a bunch.

01:57:30.000 But a bunch is like, like literally like a bunch, like a small bundle that you could hold in your hands, like not that much.

01:57:35.000 And so I got a good amount of crypto for sure, you know, but I wish I bought in 2011.

01:57:41.000 No, dude, I know, and I was like very—this is back in my libertarian era, and so many of my fans were all into Bitcoin, like, I am absolutely one of the people who should have known.

01:57:51.000 I was like, nah, it's gonna crash.

01:57:52.000 Like, I just didn't know anything about it. 0.99

01:57:54.000 But dude, the craziest thing is, the people I know who became ultra-wealthy off it are some of the dumbest people I've ever met. 0.96

01:57:59.000 Because the issue was when I was having conversations with my friends about Bitcoin, we were talking about the potential pitfalls. 0.97

01:58:06.000 Hard forking was a problem.

01:58:08.000 I'm sorry, not hard forking, but forking in general.

01:58:12.000 There have been a few instances where Bitcoin accidentally, by error, split into two different Bitcoins.

01:58:19.000 And then there was an emergency, like, okay, well, that's the real one!

01:58:22.000 And they did switch back to the proper fork.

01:58:24.000 And so we were like, that's possible.

01:58:26.000 When the network is too small, it can branch off and to create two different networks that don't agree with each other and ignore each other and clash.

01:58:36.000 And so we were like, there's some issues there.

01:58:37.000 There's issues with cracking cryptography and things like that.

01:58:39.000 And then I know people who are like, the government is awful.

01:58:42.000 This is not government money.

01:58:44.000 I'm buying it.

01:58:45.000 And I'm like, you got to think about this.

01:58:46.000 I'm like, no.

01:58:47.000 And they bought a ton and now they're all rich.

01:58:49.000 I think sometimes when I'm investing, I think too far ahead.

01:58:52.000 And I got to remember, I'm playing with the lowest common denominator.

01:58:55.000 I have to buy the stuff that most people are going to bite at, even though the stuff that's better might not get popular until later.

01:59:02.000 So you got to kind of almost dumb yourself down to make money in the investment market, in a way.

01:59:07.000 It's more about reading people.

01:59:11.000 All right.

01:59:12.000 Ryan says, if you got a problem with Canada Gooses, then you got a problem with me.

01:59:17.000 Letter Kenny.

01:59:18.000 I don't know who that is.

01:59:19.000 Letter Kenny's a TV show.

01:59:20.000 It's a really, really funny TV show.

01:59:21.000 Oh, all right.

01:59:24.000 A true free thinker says, those that carry empty gas cans in Ottawa are like those that were on Thomas Crown Affair wearing the bowler hats and carrying briefcases.

01:59:33.000 You are all fantastic.

01:59:34.000 You ever see that?

01:59:35.000 Thomas Crown Affair?

01:59:36.000 I think so.

01:59:37.000 It's where he's, like, stealing the painting, and then, like, there's a ton of people who all look exactly like him running around, and the cops don't know which one is which and who to get.

01:59:45.000 Yeah, that's, uh, what's his name's in that?

01:59:47.000 Bond.

01:59:49.000 All right.

01:59:51.000 David says, Don't forget Joe has a wife and kids.

01:59:53.000 He has to think about them, too.

01:59:54.000 It's not just him.

01:59:55.000 For sure.

01:59:57.000 But, you know, how much money is enough money?

01:59:59.000 Yeah.

02:00:00.000 But it just shows it's not about money.

02:00:01.000 It's never.

02:00:02.000 It's not.

02:00:02.000 It's about, you just can't stop.

02:00:04.000 I don't think they're going to starve.

02:00:08.000 It's about capital, which is people's willingness to work with you and the amount of money you can acquire.

02:00:13.000 But usually the money is used to get capital.

02:00:15.000 They call money capital, but it really doesn't have any value until you transact it.

02:00:19.000 All right.

02:00:21.000 Gromans says, Hi, I went to the Honkening in Ottawa on Saturday wearing my Step on Snek shirt and found Viva Livestreaming sent an email to pitches.

02:00:29.000 It was the Step on Snek and Find Out shirt.

02:00:31.000 You saw that video?

02:00:32.000 Yeah.

02:00:32.000 We saw it?

02:00:33.000 Yeah, we saw it.

02:00:34.000 Oh, sweet.

02:00:35.000 Step on Snek. 0.96

02:00:36.000 So I will say this.

02:00:38.000 Step on Snek and Find Out was our fastest selling t-shirt.

02:00:42.000 It was ridiculous, and then we made the free Honk Honk flag t-shirt, and that is now our fastest-selling t-shirt.

02:00:49.000 It's crazy.

02:00:50.000 We've sold many, many, many of those.

02:00:52.000 So, my friends, if you haven't already, smash that like button.

02:00:56.000 One like is one honk. 0.76

02:00:57.000 Subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and go to TimCast.com, become a member.

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02:01:12.000 You want to shout anything out, Greg?

02:01:16.000 No, just I'm Greg underscore Price11.

02:01:19.000 Let's go win in November.

02:01:21.000 Right on.

02:01:22.000 Awesome.

02:01:22.000 Well, first I have to correct a bit of non-medical misinformation for myself earlier in the show.

02:01:27.000 Right after I said it, I realized it, but the conversation had moved on.

02:01:31.000 I mentioned Nazi Germany ending in the late 40s.

02:01:33.000 It was the mid 40s.

02:01:34.000 Yeah.

02:01:34.000 And none of you corrected me.

02:01:35.000 It was late 45.

02:01:36.000 None of you.

02:01:37.000 But yeah, but that's not like the late 40s.

02:01:39.000 I know.

02:01:39.000 I thought it.

02:01:40.000 What was it?

02:01:40.000 No, it was early 45.

02:01:41.000 It was early 45.

02:01:42.000 It was June 40.

02:01:43.000 It was May.

02:01:44.000 That's technically in the early half of 45.

02:01:47.000 I know.

02:01:50.000 I just want to plug Freedom Tunes.

02:01:54.000 It's the cartoon channel that I run.

02:01:56.000 We release a video every single week on Thursdays.

02:01:58.000 We're also going to be releasing a video tomorrow about the Joe Rogan controversy.

02:02:02.000 Just a short little tune that Tim did a voice for.

02:02:05.000 It was wonderful and I think you'll all enjoy it very much.

02:02:08.000 And then we have a video coming out on Thursday.

02:02:10.000 As well.

02:02:10.000 Two this week.

02:02:11.000 Crazy.

02:02:12.000 I know that, you know, you guys have your position for me over at Freedom Tunes, but I'm telling you, man, I can do more.

02:02:19.000 Just give me the opportunity for more characters, man.

02:02:22.000 Coming on a little strong.

02:02:23.000 You're coming on a little strong.

02:02:24.000 You've been typecast.

02:02:26.000 You do a great job with Fauci, alright?

02:02:28.000 We'll leave it at that.

02:02:29.000 Hey, Lydia, is it true that you created the honk-a-boot in Fine Dude?

02:02:33.000 That's correct.

02:02:34.000 That was my idea.

02:02:35.000 That is amazing.

02:02:35.000 I know.

02:02:36.000 You're very creative.

02:02:36.000 Honk-a-boot.

02:02:37.000 What can I say?

02:02:38.000 No, but you've done other voices besides Fauci.

02:02:40.000 Yeah, like Tis J.W.

02:02:41.000 and... The police officer, but it's almost more fun to just let people figure out, because a lot of times, not everyone watches the credits.

02:02:48.000 I don't.

02:02:48.000 And so, but it'll say it in there, and so people are like, I can't believe Tim did that voice.

02:02:53.000 I don't think I'm good police officer wise.

02:02:56.000 Are you kidding me?

02:02:57.000 Yeah, I think you- Well then I'll give the job to someone else.

02:02:59.000 You need like an older gruff guy.

02:03:00.000 That's you.

02:03:02.000 You're so gruff and older. 0.98

02:03:04.000 No, you do a good job.

02:03:05.000 You do a good job voicing the police officer.

02:03:07.000 I thought so, but if you want to talk yourself out of the job, you're just telling me that you do more of the fouching.

02:03:10.000 As soon as I put on another role you do, you're like, What?

02:03:13.000 I never said that.

02:03:14.000 But that means you're hired for more because you're honest about your limitations.

02:03:18.000 R.I.P.

02:03:18.000 to the Fauci bobblehead, by the way.

02:03:20.000 I don't know if you guys saw the vlog, but Luke had his way with it and then fixed it.

02:03:24.000 Luke is an animal.

02:03:25.000 He's a wild thing. 0.75

02:03:26.000 He's a wild one.

02:03:27.000 No, he and I were on the vlog and he's sitting there blaming China as he holds Tim's shattered Fauci bobblehead.

02:03:36.000 I'm actually mad about that.

02:03:38.000 I thought it wasn't cool.

02:03:39.000 You should just buy two more.

02:03:41.000 Where one goes, two come.

02:03:43.000 So Ian gave me a Fauci bobblehead.

02:03:45.000 Luke broke it trying to put the gorilla on him.

02:03:49.000 And I was like, yo, glue his legs back together.

02:03:50.000 I was like, this is our Fauci.

02:03:51.000 We bobble his head.

02:03:53.000 And so instead, Luke just broke it more.

02:03:55.000 And then he leaves.

02:03:56.000 He can't help himself.

02:03:57.000 It's like wrapped in gaff tape.

02:03:59.000 He better replace it.

02:04:01.000 I just popped up Twitter.

02:04:02.000 Tim Dillon, definitely.

02:04:04.000 Cancel the Olympics forever.

02:04:05.000 It was cool.

02:04:05.000 Now it's Dominoff.

02:04:06.000 Yes, correct.

02:04:07.000 From the words of God to you through Tim Dillon.

02:04:11.000 Just want to let everyone know Tim's one of my favorite guys.

02:04:13.000 I love that guy.

02:04:14.000 Hey, follow me at iancrossland.net.

02:04:17.000 Transition this off and about to Lydia.

02:04:18.000 I love you all.

02:04:20.000 Thank you.

02:04:20.000 I also want to correct my own little bit of misinformation earlier when we were talking about bones in the leg.

02:04:25.000 The tibia is a larger bone on the inside of the leg.

02:04:27.000 The fibula is a smaller bone on the outside.

02:04:29.000 A fibula is a combination of those two words.

02:04:32.000 That is not a real bone.

02:04:33.000 So I was right.

02:04:34.000 Shameful.

02:04:34.000 It was tibia?

02:04:35.000 Tibia is the bone on the outside of the leg.

02:04:38.000 I was right!

02:04:39.000 Yeah, you were right.

02:04:40.000 Yeah, so when we came up with amphibia, that's not a real thing.

02:04:43.000 This is the problem with accepting that you're wrong and being unsure of yourself, because if I was just confident and arrogant, like, nope, I'm right, don't care, don't, no, don't, I'm confident.

02:04:51.000 I never should have said anything, Tim.

02:04:52.000 What was I thinking?

02:04:53.000 But yeah, I just wanted to correct that because I saw somebody mention that and I was like, that doesn't sound quite right.

02:04:56.000 I just couldn't remember it from anatomy.

02:04:58.000 Anyway, you guys should follow me on Twitter and Mines at Sour Patch Lids.

02:05:01.000 We will see all of you!

02:05:03.000 Every single one of you!

02:05:04.000 Now, all 35,000 are still watching.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 08, 2022

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