Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Freedom Convoy Truckers Have WON, Tow Companies Side With Movement w-Will Chamberlain

00:00:00.000 You The truckers in Canada have all but one base that

00:00:11.000 They've won.

00:00:11.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:00:13.000 They haven't necessarily gotten everything they've wanted, but the government seems to be cracking.

00:00:16.000 Trudeau seems to be breaking.

00:00:18.000 There's reports now that many of the VAX passports, the VAX mandates are going to be lifted.

00:00:22.000 The government has talked about removing many of these mandates, not because of the truckers, by the way.

00:00:27.000 But they've won for one very simple reason.

00:00:30.000 It is now confirmed from city officials, tow truck companies have refused to intervene to move any of these big rigs.

00:00:38.000 They have outright said, we work with these guys, we are not going to intervene.

00:00:43.000 And the government responded by, these tow truck companies won't be an obstacle to us ending this protest.

00:00:49.000 Which means what?

00:00:50.000 They're gonna seize the tow trucks and force them to do it?

00:00:53.000 It ain't gonna happen.

00:00:54.000 Not only that, some of these heavy-duty towing companies said, listen, unless the truckers agree to be moved, it's impossible to move these trucks.

00:01:03.000 The city is shut down until the truckers decide.

00:01:07.000 So that means, as far as I'm concerned, they control the city.

00:01:11.000 And there's about an estimate of 500 or so trucks gridlocking the city.

00:01:15.000 And there's tens of thousands of more truckers who are actively protesting in many other places.

00:01:21.000 The government has one choice.

00:01:23.000 Comply with the protesters.

00:01:25.000 And the protesters aren't asking for anything material.

00:01:28.000 They're not asking for money.

00:01:29.000 They're not asking for buildings.

00:01:30.000 They're simply saying, revert your decrees.

00:01:34.000 The truckers aren't saying we want, they're saying stop doing the bad stuff you've done by decree.

00:01:39.000 That's honorable.

00:01:41.000 We had a bunch of other news as well, though.

00:01:43.000 There's a Republican congressman who's claimed the Capitol Police special investigators, dressed like construction workers, broke into his office, photographed protected materials, and interrogated a staffer.

00:01:55.000 These are dark days.

00:01:56.000 The same day we're hearing this, Louie Gohmert said the DOJ is spying on mail from his constituents to him.

00:02:02.000 It's getting crazy out there.

00:02:03.000 And then, on a more funny note, I guess, Donald Trump has weighed in on the Joe Rogan controversy, offering Joe some good advice, saying, stand strong, don't be weak, and don't apologize.

00:02:12.000 Meanwhile, Neil Young has doubled down.

00:02:14.000 He said it wasn't about censorship.

00:02:16.000 He said it was about, you know, he doesn't want to associate with Spotify, except even after he's won, apparently, and got his music removed, he's calling on Spotify employees to quit their jobs, because it is about censorship.

00:02:28.000 So, we'll talk about all of those things.

00:02:30.000 Joining us today is Will Chamberlain.

00:02:32.000 Yeah, senior counsel at the Internet Accountability Project and the Article 3 Project.

00:02:38.000 Just fighting, you know, big tech censorship and things like that.

00:02:40.000 But really, the last six weeks have been, I've been in the newborn haze.

00:02:44.000 My lovely little Elizabeth was born on December 30th.

00:02:46.000 Congratulations, that's awesome.

00:02:49.000 Jordan is at home taking care of her and hopefully watching.

00:02:54.000 And I'm happy to be here, happy to be back and, you know, joining the world of the living.

00:02:58.000 So your credentials is dead?

00:03:00.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:03:01.000 My credentials is dad.

00:03:02.000 Will Chamberlain's joining the show.

00:03:03.000 He is, uh, dad.

00:03:04.000 And thanks for joining.

00:03:05.000 It should be fun.

00:03:06.000 We got, uh, Seamus.

00:03:07.000 Seamus Coghlan.

00:03:08.000 I run a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

00:03:10.000 We upload political cartoons every single Thursday, sometimes, uh, on Tuesday as well.

00:03:14.000 And we uploaded one today, as a matter of fact.

00:03:16.000 Tim voiced Fauci, and it was about the Joe Rogan controversy, if y'all want to check that out.

00:03:21.000 I'm excited to be back, uh, and excited to have Will on.

00:03:24.000 We've done a couple shows before.

00:03:25.000 Usually really interesting.

00:03:27.000 So, uh, And your title is father.

00:03:29.000 Father Seamus Connery.

00:03:30.000 No, absolutely not.

00:03:31.000 First of all, that is stolen valor.

00:03:33.000 Absolutely not.

00:03:36.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

00:03:36.000 What's up, everybody?

00:03:37.000 I'm not a dad yet, but hopefully one day.

00:03:39.000 That's my plan.

00:03:40.000 And so I'm excited to have a baby one of these days.

00:03:43.000 And Will, thanks for doing it.

00:03:45.000 And then, yeah, yeah, I'm really planning on having a baby pretty soon.

00:03:49.000 So I'm really excited about that.

00:03:50.000 Oh, excellent.

00:03:51.000 Excellent.

00:03:52.000 You guys can follow me at iancrossland.net, but let's get this show going.

00:03:54.000 Yes, I'm very excited to be here as well.

00:03:56.000 Thank you all for tuning in this evening.

00:03:58.000 Always good to have Will's legal counsel, or not legal counsel, I'm told.

00:04:02.000 And I'm excited to talk.

00:04:03.000 Let's get going.

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00:04:45.000 Let's jump into that first story.

00:04:47.000 This is incredible.

00:04:49.000 So we've heard rumors.

00:04:51.000 There was local reporting from independent outlets that they called tow companies and the companies are like, look, we're not getting involved in this.

00:04:56.000 We don't want to, you know, tow these trucks because we work with them and things like that.

00:05:01.000 But now we have the CBC and the government acknowledging Towing companies on city contracts, even, are refusing to move convoy vehicles.

00:05:10.000 You're going to love this.

00:05:10.000 Look at this.

00:05:12.000 According to Conellicos, Mayor Jim Watson has reached out to his counterparts in other Ontario municipalities, but no dice.

00:05:19.000 No one wants to help.

00:05:20.000 Right now, the consensus seems to be that many of them, or most of them, don't want to do the work because they rely on the heavy truck industry for their livelihood, and they don't want to damage that part of their business.

00:05:32.000 That's the position they're taking, at least.

00:05:34.000 Deputy Police Chief Steve Bell agreed that finding companies that will agree to tow protesters has been a challenge in, quote, every jurisdiction that's faced this, and it's forcing us to come up with some creative solutions.

00:05:47.000 He wouldn't elaborate on what those creative solutions might be, but said police are coming, quote, toward a position where we're not going to let the tow truck operators be an obstacle to ending what's occurring.

00:05:59.000 I just want you to think about that last quote for one quick second.

00:06:03.000 What does that mean?

00:06:04.000 They're an obstacle.

00:06:06.000 You've gone to a private company and said, I require your service.

00:06:09.000 And they said, good day, sir.

00:06:12.000 And you said, you are now an obstacle to me ending a protest.

00:06:15.000 What are they going to do?

00:06:16.000 Steal the tow trucks and operate them themselves?

00:06:19.000 They're not going to know how to do it.

00:06:20.000 Could you imagine some cop being like, let me just figure this thing out.

00:06:23.000 I think I can get it.

00:06:24.000 They'd have to steal the vehicles, commandeer these companies because the companies won't do it.

00:06:29.000 It's very difficult to tow trucks when the tow trucks won't tow trucks.

00:06:32.000 Exactly.

00:06:33.000 Well, there's also a quote from a local trucker who laughed at the prospect when someone asked him, are you worried about getting towed?

00:06:40.000 And he said, anybody who's worked with these big rigs knows that when you activate the air brakes, these things cannot move unless the operator wants them to move.

00:06:49.000 So the tow truck drivers are like, that's one of the other stories we have.

00:06:53.000 They're basically saying removing trucks, well they're literally saying, would be almost impossible.

00:06:59.000 It's a gridlock.

00:07:01.000 Think about it this way too.

00:07:02.000 You've got, you know, let's say you have four by four trucks in the road.

00:07:06.000 How are you going to be able to tow one of the trucks one at a time and try and clear it out?

00:07:10.000 It's insane.

00:07:11.000 They're heavy duty.

00:07:12.000 The companies won't do it.

00:07:13.000 And even if they could, these trucks have basically gridlocked the area.

00:07:17.000 There's smaller cars.

00:07:18.000 It's, I'll say this.

00:07:20.000 Physically possible.

00:07:22.000 Logistically impossible.

00:07:23.000 Yeah.

00:07:24.000 Moving all these cars to get to the trucks and then clear everything out.

00:07:26.000 It's never going to happen.

00:07:28.000 Yeah, not without the cooperation of the tow truck companies who can give you the expertise necessary.

00:07:33.000 Not without some amount of meaningful coercion that you can enforce.

00:07:36.000 I mean, think about if you had an individual tow truck, or an individual trucker who was pulling a stunt like this.

00:07:42.000 Okay, you could probably figure out how to do it.

00:07:44.000 If I won tow truck, you could be like, also like, we're gonna throw you in jail for a long time unless you help us the longer you wait.

00:07:51.000 The worse it'll be for you.

00:07:52.000 Um, but when, when you've got like a mass protest like this where the tow trucks are, you know, it's just, they're in an impossible situation.

00:08:00.000 Yeah.

00:08:00.000 Well, one of the things I love so much about this is that there have been so many instances in this country of specific special interest groups with a lot of money and power who are very cunning, trying to resist specific policies and not being able to.

00:08:13.000 And then you have these truckers who band together and no one can do anything about it.

00:08:17.000 It's really incredible.

00:08:18.000 Well, the crazy thing is the solidarity, I guess.

00:08:21.000 It's that the truckers took action and the tow truck drivers are like, nah, nah, we work with these guys.

00:08:25.000 We're not getting involved.

00:08:27.000 They can offer up the cops everything in the world.

00:08:29.000 Apparently, Ottawa police are exempt from the vaccine mandates.

00:08:32.000 They give them special privileges and the cops with a smile on their face, put the boot on your neck. 0.66

00:08:36.000 But when it comes to the industry of truckers, too many people rely on them.

00:08:40.000 Imagine it this way, too.

00:08:41.000 It's not just tow truck drivers.

00:08:43.000 There's probably a supermarket.

00:08:45.000 And the cops are going to be like, don't you provide service to these truckers?

00:08:47.000 They're going to be like, I don't want to get involved because if I start making these guys angry, they don't deliver to my store anymore.

00:08:53.000 I got to work with these guys, man.

00:08:55.000 If the truckers boycott a grocery store chain, that chain's in trouble.

00:08:59.000 No, well, that's what I'm saying.

00:09:00.000 That's what I love about this so much, is that it has to be unbelievably frustrating to them, because the government has been able to push around literally everybody.

00:09:08.000 And you look at all the incredibly powerful people who cower at the face of policies and try to resist them, but are unable, and then you just have truckers banding together and people standing in solidarity with them, and the political class is unable to do anything about it.

00:09:23.000 It's kind of like an immune system.

00:09:24.000 Like, it's a natural emergence of the system.

00:09:27.000 It rises up and defends itself.

00:09:28.000 It wipes out any kind of ill, you know?

00:09:31.000 That's what it seems like.

00:09:33.000 Well, the truckers are like the red blood cells of the body, but now these truckers are acting like white blood cells, weeding out a dangerous corruption.

00:09:41.000 Macrophages.

00:09:44.000 I guess what I'm really trying to say here is there's an incredibly valuable lesson in all of this because It wasn't a think tank.

00:09:54.000 It wasn't a political interest organization.

00:09:57.000 It wasn't any group of intellectuals that banded together to resist this policy and push back against it.

00:10:01.000 It was literally just ordinary people.

00:10:04.000 It's like a snooty rich kid on the playground who's bullying people because he's allowed to do whatever he wants.

00:10:10.000 And then there's some just like regular working class kid who minds his own business. 0.61

00:10:14.000 And everyone's always getting picked on by the snooty rich kid.

00:10:16.000 And then everyone's just like, I wish you would stop.

00:10:19.000 And then one day the regular kid who's just like, he just gets up and he's a bigger dude.

00:10:22.000 And he just shoves the snooty little kid to the ground.

00:10:25.000 He's like, you can't do that.

00:10:26.000 Don't you know I am? 1.00

00:10:26.000 And he goes, shut up. 1.00

00:10:28.000 It's just like, you finally push the quiet guy. 0.98

00:10:31.000 He's had enough of your BS and there's nothing you can do except Comply.

00:10:36.000 Just comply.

00:10:38.000 Is it so hard?

00:10:39.000 You can go back to normal if you just comply.

00:10:42.000 Well, I think Justin Trudeau was saying that the only way to get... Wait, what?

00:10:45.000 Oh, I gotta get his quote.

00:10:47.000 The only way to stop removing our rights is to remove some more rights really quick.

00:10:52.000 I don't know what he said.

00:10:54.000 And I'd be a little sympathetic to the left on this if they hadn't spent two years justifying every type of lawless disturbance and riot over their own pet causes.

00:11:04.000 You know, as a general matter, I want to be in a position where I'm saying, no, riots are bad, obey the law, whatever.

00:11:09.000 But I'm sorry, you guys spent two years blocking traffic over, you know, Extinction Rebellion and Justin Trudeau rooting it on and all this nonsense.

00:11:16.000 And I'm like, take some of your own medicine.

00:11:19.000 I'm not familiar how bad riots got in Canada, if at all.

00:11:23.000 I don't pay attention to Canada all that much, to be honest.

00:11:25.000 A little bit.

00:11:26.000 And this story is particularly big, so we are seeing it.

00:11:31.000 As it goes to the cultural left, these guys are engaging in possibly the most peaceful protest you could ever engage in.

00:11:40.000 The roads are shut down.

00:11:41.000 There's no risk to someone getting run over.

00:11:42.000 Remember when BLM went in the highway and we're like dancing around and the car like swerved and hit people?

00:11:46.000 Like, that's dangerous!

00:11:48.000 They've shut down downtown streets, so there's no traffic.

00:11:53.000 It's way safer.

00:11:54.000 Uh, it doesn't, it doesn't, isn't like false imprisonment the way that sort of standing in traffic to like block just average everyday people is.

00:12:01.000 They've not taken any police stations like in jazz?

00:12:04.000 They're not riots.

00:12:05.000 These are protests.

00:12:06.000 They're not attacking cars.

00:12:07.000 There's a bit of a private nuisance.

00:12:09.000 So I don't know if you guys are familiar with nuisance law.

00:12:11.000 So nuisance can take any number of forms.

00:12:13.000 Like say you have a plant that's putting out nasty chemicals into the air.

00:12:16.000 The people who live around you have a claim in tort for nuisance, right?

00:12:19.000 You're not allowed.

00:12:20.000 If you're damaging everybody around you's property, then that's a nuisance.

00:12:25.000 And nuisance can be noise too, right?

00:12:27.000 Like obnoxious noise pollution in the middle of the night is not lawful.

00:12:30.000 In general so like I get you know I get again So I get a little bit of where they're coming from but I'm

00:12:35.000 just under the circumstances in Canada Sorry, no you get to deal with this until you repeal the

00:12:40.000 mandates because you decided to let your people run wild We do way worse things. I'm fine with

00:12:45.000 Non-violent civil disobedience that breaks laws when extinction rebellion blocked the roads that boat in DC

00:12:52.000 I think it was I said hey, you know what?

00:12:54.000 More power to them.

00:12:55.000 Honestly, they're gonna have to come in, they're gonna have to remove those, the boat, they're gonna have to arrest everybody, the people will get arrested, they will get charged.

00:13:02.000 It's not the most egregious charge they'll ever face in the world, but they didn't get violent, they made their point, and they got arrested for it.

00:13:08.000 That's kind of like the middle ground where we're like, well, we don't want people to always be doing things like this.

00:13:15.000 But we tolerate a certain degree of civil disobedience when people want to get their voice heard.

00:13:20.000 Truckers are doing just that.

00:13:21.000 I'll defend that all the same.

00:13:23.000 But when BLM and Antifa go around smashing windows and burning buildings down, nobody agrees with that.

00:13:28.000 You've gone so far over the line, we're like, dude, stop. 0.99

00:13:30.000 You're crazy. 1.00

00:13:30.000 You're crazy people. 1.00

00:13:31.000 Yeah, it's contextual. 0.98

00:13:32.000 If there was a purpose for that, like, in a war scenario, you do do that to preserve yourself.

00:13:37.000 You have to, like, fight.

00:13:38.000 But the context didn't seem right for the riots.

00:13:41.000 It seemed out of context.

00:13:42.000 And this does seem in context in Canada.

00:13:43.000 And it's also specific to a very narrow ask.

00:13:46.000 I think that's another reason it's substantially more virtuous, right?

00:13:48.000 Like, Black Lives Matter, what are they asking for? 1.00

00:13:50.000 Like, end systemic racism.

00:13:52.000 What does that even mean?

00:13:53.000 And how do you do it?

00:13:53.000 How do you verify it's done?

00:13:55.000 You know, it's just like an endless ask for whatever.

00:13:57.000 Whereas these guys are like, repeal this executive order.

00:14:01.000 Right.

00:14:01.000 We'll go home the moment you do this one thing.

00:14:03.000 And they're not asking for a gain.

00:14:05.000 Right.

00:14:05.000 So BLM people are like, we have a list of demands of things you have to give us.

00:14:09.000 The truckers are like, you did something we didn't like and we're asking you to stop.

00:14:12.000 I'm like, they're not even asking you for anything, dude.

00:14:15.000 They're like, you did thing, stop doing thing.

00:14:19.000 The truckers are coming from a negative position and trying to return to zero, whereas BLM was starting from zero and trying to jump up in other positions.

00:14:27.000 Now don't get me wrong, police brutality is bad and protesting police brutality is a good thing.

00:14:32.000 Those people who are protesting police brutality are coming from a negative and they're saying we want to go back to zero where we have a right to live peacefully and have our rights respected.

00:14:40.000 But when BLM comes out and says, we want funding for this program in Louisville, they demanded a cut of local business revenue.

00:14:48.000 I'm like, that's mafia.

00:14:50.000 Exactly.

00:14:50.000 That's the incentive.

00:14:51.000 And they went to a Cuban restaurant and they smashed a potted plant, like, give us what we want. 1.00

00:14:55.000 He was like, no.

00:14:56.000 And they smashed a pot.

00:14:57.000 It's like, dude, that's like mafia.

00:15:00.000 So let me just stress.

00:15:01.000 When I see BLM marching down the street and they're doing their communist fist and all that, I'm like, I really disagree with them, but I understand if it's a peaceful protest, if it's non-violence of disobedience, we have more power to you, man.

00:15:13.000 We gotta tolerate some degree of civil unrest, but we have a hard line.

00:15:17.000 We have a soft line and a hard line.

00:15:19.000 With these truckers, they're just basically like, stop ruling by decree.

00:15:23.000 It violates the law.

00:15:24.000 Please, please stop breaking the law.

00:15:26.000 Yeah, I'm okay with all of it.

00:15:27.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:15:28.000 Well, we were even talking about this the other day with J.B.

00:15:31.000 Pritzker giving $300,000 of federal COVID relief money to BLM.

00:15:37.000 And one thing I said at that point was, BLM is the perfect scam because there aren't any actual results you have to show for it.

00:15:43.000 Like you mentioned a moment ago, the goals are very nebulous and they'll talk about systemic racism and we want this change and that change, but it's never anything really concrete.

00:15:52.000 Whereas these truckers are, again, they're asking for something very solid.

00:15:55.000 They're saying, repeal this law, don't force me to take an injection that I don't want.

00:15:59.000 And on top of it, they're not starting this massive trucker organization called, like, Trucker Lives Matter, where they're asking for millions of dollars and getting funding from state authorities and then spending it on mansions.

00:16:10.000 We'll see.

00:16:11.000 To be fair, it remains to be seen.

00:16:15.000 Might be a missed opportunity.

00:16:19.000 End systemic anti-truck discrimination.

00:16:22.000 I don't have a problem with the function of Black Lives Matter starting a global organization and raising money.

00:16:30.000 I have a problem with authoritarianism.

00:16:32.000 I have a problem with the authoritarian application of their ideologies.

00:16:35.000 I have a personal disagreement with their ideologies that should be debated, but their tactics don't allow for reasonable debate, so they're playing an unreasonable game with an unreasonable ideology.

00:16:46.000 I don't care if any organization wants to raise money.

00:16:48.000 No.

00:16:48.000 If the truckers launch the, you know, Truckers for Freedom or whatever, and they end up raising 60 million dollars, that's fantastic.

00:16:55.000 If Truckers for Freedom raise 60 million dollars and it turns out their address is fake and there's no leader and no one knows where the money is, I'm gonna have a problem with that.

00:17:01.000 No, exactly.

00:17:02.000 I have zero problem with global organizations trying to raise money, right?

00:17:05.000 I mean, I'm Catholic.

00:17:06.000 But, when you look at BLM specifically, if you look at BLM specifically, It's not the fact that they're trying to raise money.

00:17:16.000 It's again, they're trying to raise money for Nebula's goals.

00:17:18.000 And at the end of the day, they don't have to show any results.

00:17:22.000 That's what's so frightening about it.

00:17:23.000 There's literally nothing that the money actually goes towards other than we want to hire a diversity officer here, or we want to give a payout to this group.

00:17:31.000 Well, to be fair, that Louisville group specifically would have to net 15% of the local business's revenue to show results, because that's what they were going for.

00:17:38.000 So at least as evil as their plan was, it was tangible.

00:17:42.000 You know, they're like, guys, guys, we're raising money to shake down local businesses for a cut of their revenue.

00:17:47.000 Yeah.

00:17:48.000 To go towards our ideology.

00:17:49.000 And I, again, I was being, I was being like a little tongue-in-cheek about the Catholic thing earlier, but no, I mean, the

00:17:54.000 Catholic Church is one of the number one charitable givers.

00:17:56.000 I think you can have an organization that raises a lot of money and is global that does good.

00:18:02.000 And if BLM did good, I would have zero problem with what they were doing.

00:18:05.000 But they want to destroy the family and they're trying to usher in socialism.

00:18:08.000 And there's a lot of intricacies woven with the U.S.

00:18:10.000 government and BLM.

00:18:11.000 Although, I'm looking into it now just to find some examples.

00:18:14.000 I've just seen a lot of, like, indoctrinations into the government and the military and stuff.

00:18:18.000 So that's fascism.

00:18:20.000 When you see a corporation start to raise a bunch of money and then get the government to start working with them.

00:18:24.000 Like, that's...

00:18:25.000 Fascism isn't always dangerous.

00:18:26.000 It's not always violent.

00:18:28.000 Fascism can be very peaceful.

00:18:30.000 Yes.

00:18:32.000 When you have hardcore cultural enforcement, then everyone's scared to do anything.

00:18:36.000 And if everyone is living under a boot, you won't need to crack a whip.

00:18:39.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:40.000 Exactly.

00:18:42.000 We talk about peace and unity, but none of those things can come at the expense of truth.

00:18:46.000 Sometimes you have to fight, you have to resist.

00:18:49.000 The reason why I think, ultimately though, fascism and authoritarianism can never be peaceful is because of resistance.

00:18:55.000 Because I don't see... You know, what the communists have always wanted to do and always tried always results in mass violence and civil unrest, and they have to kill their own people for it.

00:19:05.000 That's why it's like, fundamentally you can say, this is what the communists and the authoritarians believe.

00:19:10.000 If you can subjugate everybody, then you won't have to worry about violence.

00:19:14.000 You put them in gulags, right?

00:19:15.000 They're gone.

00:19:15.000 It just never works out that way.

00:19:16.000 The U.S.

00:19:17.000 did it with money, with the banking system in 1913 or so.

00:19:20.000 We've basically been limited to peaceful fascism for 107 years.

00:19:22.000 108 years or something.

00:19:25.000 That's an aggressive claim.

00:19:27.000 Go at it!

00:19:30.000 I want to hear this.

00:19:31.000 I want to hear this debate.

00:19:32.000 I mean, I think fractional reserve banking is good.

00:19:37.000 I think the alternative is a world where wages can't I mean, the problem where wages go down nominally, which wages don't, that's not very friendly to the economy in general.

00:19:47.000 I mean, like, we've tried gold standard a number of times.

00:19:49.000 The big problem that happens is if you have any sort of economic downturn, at least just mass unemployment, rather than, like, shifting exchange rates.

00:19:56.000 I mean, I can't go into more detail, but... But just fractional reserve banking is, I don't see, that seems non sequitur.

00:20:03.000 So fractional, I mean... I understand, you know, like, what I'm saying is, I don't see how fractional reserve banking is, look, you change interest rates, you have policy decisions, you have quantitative easing, you have the borrowing and the printing of money and bonds and selling that stuff.

00:20:14.000 You don't need fractional reserve banking to accomplish those things.

00:20:17.000 I mean, fractional reserve banking, I guess, is one mechanism to have a money supply that is ultimately expandable.

00:20:22.000 I think it's a good thing to have the ability to expand the money supply, because I think... Not that way!

00:20:30.000 You can think about the cute ways to do it, but the sort of... Because the thing is, I used to be a libertarian and a hardcore one, into the gold standard, read a lot about it, and eventually just came to the conclusion that That was actually a bad idea because, you know, I think the best understanding of like how, why is a gold standard just grew up in like a modern example of it is the euro, right?

00:20:49.000 Like we talk about the euro being really messed up and sort of fundamentally huge problems as a result in southern European countries, right?

00:20:55.000 Greece, Italy, Spain, always having huge employment issues, right?

00:20:59.000 Huge, like, and their economies are just in a mess consistently.

00:21:02.000 Well, why is that?

00:21:04.000 Okay.

00:21:04.000 Well, the problem is they're sharing a single currency with a bunch of countries, including Germany, which is a really powerful, efficient economy, way more powerful and efficient than the southern European countries.

00:21:16.000 Now, prior to the advent of the euro, how did the higher economic productivity of Germany manifest itself?

00:21:23.000 Well, it manifested itself in the German currency was worth more, because they produced so many goods and services you could buy with Deutschmarks, and the Spanish currencies were, those currencies depreciated in the other countries, which meant that the currencies depreciated themselves, so ultimately their ability to purchase exports went down, but their nominal wages, the actual dollar amounts they were getting paid, or sorry, the peseta.

00:21:44.000 You mean imports?

00:21:45.000 The peseta, no, I'm talking about like, there's a nominal and real, do you guys understand the distinction between those two, like nominal wages and real wages?

00:21:51.000 So you keep getting $5, that's the nominal wage, but the real wage is your $5 is going to buy you less goods?

00:21:55.000 Exactly.

00:21:57.000 And basically, my overall thesis is it is very bad when nominal wages have to go down because no one likes to go home to their wife and explain why their pay went down.

00:22:08.000 Right?

00:22:08.000 Like, that's a really good way to get, you know, so you get fewer people being hired.

00:22:12.000 It's like, nominal wages are very, what's called, sticky downwards.

00:22:15.000 People really hate when they do that.

00:22:17.000 And so, if a productivity differential between regions can manifest itself as your currency depreciates versus basically, like, all your people's nominal wages have to go down because otherwise, like, everybody, you go broke.

00:22:32.000 Like, if you can't print money, then you have to borrow.

00:22:36.000 It's really, really complicated to explain to a lot of people, even to give people the basics on fractional reserve banking policies.

00:22:44.000 It's pretty basic.

00:22:44.000 It's like you can loan out money that you don't have.

00:22:47.000 I think I think we got it's pretty basic. It's like you can loan out money that you don't have yes

00:22:51.000 It's that loans create money alone isn't someone bought lending a bank is not lending money to you

00:22:59.000 A bank is creating the money on demand for when someone demands it.

00:23:02.000 So it used to be they could only loan out what they had in gold, and now they can loan out more than what they have.

00:23:08.000 Nothing is like... Can I just ask one question?

00:23:12.000 So, but what happens if nominal wages decrease, but you actually have deflation, so real wages are increasing?

00:23:18.000 I mean, if you end up having deflation, you still have that fundamental problem of like, people because it's a psychological problem as much as an economic one right you people still have to go back to their you know spouses and explain what their wages went down if they're so employers are still so reluctant to cut pay which means they end up firing people and hiring less and so you get this sort of unemployment gap i mean if you want to look at i think the best example of like gold standard being kind of screwed up is like

00:23:45.000 Britain in the 1920s where they literally had a straight up mutiny because of wage cuts and like 0.90

00:23:50.000 the British Navy never mutinies but they had massive problems and Winston Churchill who was 0.93

00:23:54.000 like super gung-ho on the gold standard thought bought all the arguments about it flipped himself

00:23:57.000 and was like but but but ultimately the the problem is centralization of authority and

00:24:02.000 the manipulation of the economy and the manipulation of of these these or these groups I I I hear what

00:24:08.000 you're saying for sure but uh I I don't think the current system we have is is the right system.

00:24:14.000 I think it's ultimately authoritarian and manipulative.

00:24:17.000 It's effectively a way to control different sectors of the economy and for authoritarians to exert.

00:24:23.000 It's like you're saying, you know, you've got a mutiny.

00:24:25.000 You've got people who are upset over their pay.

00:24:27.000 I know the answer.

00:24:28.000 Let's trick them into thinking they have money.

00:24:31.000 And that's kind of what happened during the pandemic, right?

00:24:33.000 Now we have inflation occurring, everything's more expensive, the supply chain is broken down.

00:24:38.000 I look at these Reddit posts, there was one where a woman says, it went viral, she was like, I go to the grocery store and I buy the same thing every week, and I'm spending more and more money every single week, and when I tell people no one listens, no one believes me.

00:24:50.000 I thought it was interesting because it shows how for people who are on fixed incomes or for people who buy the same things every single week, like they know what they need.

00:24:59.000 Milk, bread, eggs, coffee.

00:25:01.000 They're seeing directly like, wow, this was $60 last week and now it's $70.

00:25:06.000 But for a lot of people, they kind of go and they buy random things.

00:25:09.000 They go to the store and they're like, this looks nice.

00:25:11.000 So they're not actually seeing it because the number is always different.

00:25:15.000 So I go to the grocery store and I ask the people working there and they're like, dude, it's nuts.

00:25:18.000 The prices are skyrocketing.

00:25:20.000 So for a lot of people, they're just oblivious.

00:25:23.000 I suppose that's one way to control the masses.

00:25:24.000 They don't realize their buying power has decreased.

00:25:26.000 We printed money.

00:25:27.000 We borrowed money.

00:25:28.000 We went nuts.

00:25:29.000 We changed savings accounts, checking accounts over the pandemic.

00:25:33.000 And we gave everybody all of this money for a variety of reasons.

00:25:36.000 And they all were like, wow, I got $200.

00:25:38.000 And now it's like, you can't buy anything with that $200.

00:25:41.000 So does it really matter?

00:25:41.000 And neither can I. Thanks, guys.

00:25:43.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:44.000 Those of us who are responsible and safe and think ahead are now the ones getting screwed over.

00:25:48.000 But I'll tell you this, you can still buy silver.

00:25:51.000 So if you're someone who knows they're devaluing currency to trick people into thinking they have money, hedge your bets, I guess.

00:25:59.000 But I'm not gonna tell you where to hedge them.

00:26:00.000 Silver's increased a little bit though, hasn't it?

00:26:02.000 Is it undervalued right now?

00:26:03.000 It was flowing at 18 bucks for a while.

00:26:05.000 I'll check what it's at now.

00:26:06.000 I think it's undervalued.

00:26:07.000 I have a thesis I'll give to people, which is that if you really want, you know, the best inflation hedge is just equity and a good company.

00:26:14.000 And I'll explain why, right?

00:26:17.000 Do you think Apple's ever going to shy away from raising prices if costs go up on the supply side?

00:26:24.000 No.

00:26:26.000 People will still buy iPhones, which means they will always be able to make a substantial profit regardless of how much inflation there is, which means the value of their equity is a good inflation hedge.

00:26:38.000 This is actually the secret that a lot of people make money on.

00:26:42.000 By the way, Tim, not financial advice.

00:26:43.000 Are we required to say that?

00:26:45.000 No, that's not financial advice.

00:26:47.000 Okay, fair enough, fair enough.

00:26:48.000 I'm just saying my personal opinion is that silver is way undervalued.

00:26:52.000 Oh, silver's amazing.

00:26:52.000 So you said having equity in a good company.

00:26:57.000 But then you mentioned Apple who like has slave labor. 0.98

00:27:00.000 So like ethically good?

00:27:03.000 I'm not using a good in a normative term.

00:27:06.000 I'm trying to talk about, it's like the Warren Buffett style thing where it's like a company that has a good moat, right?

00:27:11.000 Like a serious, durable, competitive advantage.

00:27:15.000 The problem with this system, one of them in my opinion, is that it allows people to artificially increase the value of their investments as opposed to actually just doing labor to provide for their community.

00:27:26.000 So I think about how, you know, I saw one post.

00:27:29.000 There's a lot of these anti-work subreddits, work reform, late-stage capitalism.

00:27:33.000 And they have ridiculous solutions and proposals, but there are complaints, I understand.

00:27:38.000 One was, they said, my parents bought a house in the early 90s for $100,000, and now it's worth $750,000 or $800,000.

00:27:46.000 I make more than they did in buying power, but I can't even afford any house, and rent is higher than the mortgage was.

00:27:56.000 So I view all of this as a problem of artificially trying to control economies.

00:28:01.000 I think the market would solve for a lot of these problems if it was allowed to, but we manipulate it to try and keep things at a steady growth even if we're forcing it and twisting it and lying to people to convince them they have money when they really don't.

00:28:15.000 Yeah, well, and this is also one of the reasons I've always argued in favor of subsidiarity.

00:28:19.000 I understand that it's really difficult to break a system apart once it's as large as ours, but it's not so much the idea of a command economy, which again, I am against in principle as well, but also a command economy attempting to lord over the economic decision making of 330 million people.

00:28:34.000 Dude, it's just too much.

00:28:35.000 It's a type of command economy, the Federal Reserve deciding when they get to print more money.

00:28:39.000 That should just happen when we need it.

00:28:40.000 Well, it shouldn't be up to a bunch of bureaucrats.

00:28:43.000 But it's not so much about the printing money.

00:28:44.000 Money supply is created upon loan demand.

00:28:47.000 So you go to a bank, you take out a loan, and then they're like, we've just created $100,000, haven't I said?

00:28:50.000 What's this quantitative easing?

00:28:52.000 That just means money printing, right?

00:28:54.000 Right, right, right.

00:28:55.000 There is money printing, but I just mean money supply is generally expanded through fractional reserve policies of creating money on demand.

00:29:00.000 When you were saying that the market will correct for itself, are you suggesting that, like in Italy, what was happening was the correction is that wages will go down?

00:29:07.000 Right.

00:29:07.000 Because basically they're effectively on a gold standard, right?

00:29:10.000 They can't print more euros, or they can only print a very limited amount because they're in this treaty agreement with the other European countries.

00:29:16.000 And because of that, it's like, well, as a result, guess what?

00:29:23.000 Germany is a much more productive economy than Italy.

00:29:25.000 But that's because they can control the production of the currency, right?

00:29:30.000 Not necessarily.

00:29:31.000 No, it's not really just that.

00:29:32.000 I mean, Germany just has, like, better companies, you know, than Italy and a more, like, it's just a more productive economy.

00:29:39.000 Germany does effectively what the U.S. 0.82

00:29:41.000 does for the rest of the world, right?

00:29:42.000 The U.S.

00:29:43.000 prints and controls the creation of the petrodollar, which allows Americans to be very, very wealthy and producing very, very little.

00:29:50.000 We're backed up by U.S. 0.76

00:29:53.000 imperialism.

00:29:54.000 Sure, sure.

00:29:54.000 But I mean, Germany was more productive than the southern European countries in the 70s and 80s.

00:29:58.000 No, no, for sure, for sure.

00:29:59.000 And the U.S.

00:30:00.000 is productive.

00:30:01.000 We do produce a lot, especially under Trump.

00:30:02.000 We were energy independent.

00:30:04.000 But it's really easy for the U.S.

00:30:06.000 to, say, secure oil because oil is sold in dollars and we make them.

00:30:11.000 So when Germany controls the production of Euro, and these other countries can't, then it's really easy for them to control the rest of these countries.

00:30:18.000 Kind of, but I mean, again, the Euro is sort of, it's controlled by the European Central Bank, which Germany has influence over, but it's not nearly the kind of influence that, say, our government would have over the Federal Reserve.

00:30:27.000 For sure.

00:30:28.000 Oh, it's even more fascist.

00:30:29.000 Like, yeah, no, it's like, it's just completely, you know, it's like a combined agreement.

00:30:33.000 So a corporation, okay, I get it.

00:30:34.000 Basically, like, that euro, I mean, you can't look at the euro experiment and be like, man, that really worked out well, right?

00:30:39.000 Like, for those countries.

00:30:40.000 You can't say that about- So, I have a friend in Spain.

00:30:44.000 I went to Spain, like, 10 years ago.

00:30:46.000 And this was back when the big protest and movement was happening.

00:30:48.000 I think it was called, like, the March or whatever.

00:30:50.000 And these students were protesting because the unemployment was, like, 50% for young people.

00:30:54.000 It was insane.

00:30:55.000 And I said, how did this happen?

00:30:57.000 What happened?

00:30:57.000 And my friend told me, before the euro, when they're on the peseta, a newspaper would cost, say, one peseta.

00:31:04.000 So you're working your normal job, you get paid, hey, one peseta.

00:31:08.000 You buy a newspaper, you come home, you read it, you buy food.

00:31:11.000 One day, they switched to the euro.

00:31:13.000 The euro was three times the value of the peseta.

00:31:17.000 But guess what?

00:31:18.000 The prices were normalized.

00:31:20.000 So the newspaper now was still one euro, which was effectively three times what they were used to paying, and it caused mass disruption in their economy.

00:31:29.000 It was extremely detrimental.

00:31:31.000 There's a real benefit to local currencies.

00:31:33.000 Right. They've because the money can't leave the area. 0.95

00:31:36.000 So there's been a lot of experimentation with with local currencies like there was famously the Ithaca Hour,

00:31:41.000 which they don't really use that much anymore.

00:31:42.000 I guess the guy who was was running it left or died.

00:31:45.000 I'm not entirely sure.

00:31:46.000 But with a local currency, you can have let's say let's say of a small town in your town has its own currency.

00:31:52.000 That currency can't leave the town.

00:31:54.000 So that money will always be circulating in trade, making it a sort of a lubricant for society to move the machine parts to move around.

00:32:03.000 You could have it where you go to a city.

00:32:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:06.000 When you don't have local currency and you have, say, like Detroit, which is primarily funded by one big auto manufacturing plant, and those U.S.

00:32:13.000 dollars come in, The plant then leaves, and there's no more influx of cash.

00:32:19.000 And those people who live there are spending dollars outside their community.

00:32:23.000 The money leaves, the trade halts, and then you end up with despair and economic downturn.

00:32:29.000 Local currencies can help prevent that.

00:32:30.000 Yeah, if you could go city to city, and every time you swipe your card in Dubuque, Iowa, it's going to automatically translate your currency into their local currency, and then pay them in their local currency.

00:32:42.000 And then when you leave the city and you go downtown to another city, you swipe your card and it automatically translates your currency to their currency.

00:32:48.000 There may be a value to that.

00:32:49.000 We're heading towards a global currency.

00:32:51.000 It's probably going to be some kind of crypto.

00:32:52.000 We need infinite currency.

00:32:53.000 I don't think so.

00:32:54.000 I think I would say the opposite.

00:32:56.000 If anything, like the history of the euro suggests that you're more likely to see disintegration of currencies.

00:33:03.000 My basic thesis about all this stuff in the United States is like, well, why then, you know, should we have like a good question, right?

00:33:08.000 Should we have localized currencies in individual states?

00:33:11.000 And I think really what you're trying to get to is you want the unification of like political authority and the currency area, right?

00:33:19.000 Because that way like the political authority can ensure that where there are those dislocations they are resolved internally within the country.

00:33:25.000 One of the ways you can kind of think of like say all those military bases we have in areas that are not like super economically productive otherwise is there a form of redistribution from like more economically productive areas to less to remediate the sort of problems you would see where you Which you wouldn't, and you can't resolve them in Europe, because Germany's not going to pay for, like, Italy's, like, regional development.

00:33:44.000 You could do, like, a currency that's inside of a currency that's inside of a currency.

00:33:48.000 So, like, you could have your local currency that's inside of a state currency that's inside of your national currency that's inside of the global currency, and it could all be used in different areas in different ways.

00:34:02.000 Let's get back to talking about the truckers.

00:34:04.000 Because, boy, did we derail on that one.

00:34:07.000 Sorry, my bad.

00:34:08.000 No, no, I told you guys to go at it.

00:34:10.000 That's why I said no to explaining the Federal Reserve.

00:34:14.000 I'm like, this would take way too long.

00:34:16.000 It struck me, fascism can be peaceful.

00:34:19.000 That's a terrifying concept.

00:34:21.000 We got good news, everybody.

00:34:22.000 We got good news from CTV.

00:34:24.000 Alberta ditches proof-of-vaccine program at midnight, masking for students on Monday.

00:34:29.000 This story, February 8th, 7.27 p.m.

00:34:33.000 Eastern Time.

00:34:33.000 This is happening right now.

00:34:34.000 Alberta's highly controversial proof-of-vaccination system expires as the clock strikes midnight Wednesday.

00:34:39.000 Premier Jason Kenney announced Tuesday, amid accusations that he was playing politics with public health measures.

00:34:45.000 Rules that require students to wear masks in Alberta schools will end on Monday, and children under 12 won't have to wear masks anywhere starting then.

00:34:52.000 Credit goes to the truckers.

00:34:54.000 I don't care what they say.

00:34:55.000 I don't care about the lies.

00:34:57.000 They were never going to give up power.

00:34:59.000 Now we're hearing even in the U.S., Democrats are likely to give up on the mandates.

00:35:02.000 And what are they saying?

00:35:03.000 Oh, but the science has changed.

00:35:05.000 No, no.

00:35:06.000 A bunch of truckers crippled the capital of Canada, and they all saw that happen.

00:35:10.000 They all saw how powerless they were.

00:35:12.000 They all heard that truckers were planning on doing it here in the U.S.

00:35:14.000 The science didn't change, right?

00:35:17.000 it back down on this one. Science changed its mind. That's what happened here. The honks

00:35:21.000 were loud guys. The science has changed. Pray I don't change it further. The science didn't

00:35:26.000 change right? You know the only respect in which you can make that argument in good faith

00:35:30.000 is saying that the omicron is a lot less virulent than and you know and also morbid I guess

00:35:36.000 would be the right word than it was you know the OG virus that was coming out in like March

00:35:40.000 2020 or whatever. Like that's a valid argument right? The way the proper public health response

00:35:46.000 to omicron is very different I think than the proper public health response to the original

00:35:50.000 virus. And it was so unknown in the beginning that they over not over they reacted very

00:35:54.000 extremely because they didn't know.

00:35:56.000 Which is also rational because it's a precautionary process.

00:35:58.000 And because, like you were saying, it's hard to undo a process once it's going.

00:36:01.000 Yes.

00:36:02.000 Now you see stores that are selling masks and stuff.

00:36:05.000 And also, all of the decision-making power was in the hands of people who wouldn't pay a price for overreacting, and so you were going to get an overreaction.

00:36:13.000 It's also where polling was.

00:36:14.000 I mean, if you look at... Polling is flipped, right?

00:36:16.000 If you actually look... If you remember looking at those polls in, like, March-April 2020, they were, like, 80-20 in favor of severe restrictions.

00:36:22.000 Yeah.

00:36:23.000 And that's flipped completely, right?

00:36:24.000 It's now 20-80-20 the other way.

00:36:25.000 Let me read this portion of the CTV News article.

00:36:25.000 Yeah.

00:36:27.000 They say, The Premier, Kenny, recently said that a plan to remove restrictions would likely come by the end of March.

00:36:33.000 Five days later, he changed the timeline when he said he hoped to relax measures this month.

00:36:38.000 Last Thursday, a United Conservative Party statement said the premier will begin lifting restrictions within days.

00:36:44.000 Now, what could have happened that would make him just abruptly change his mind and move the timeline by almost two months?

00:36:50.000 Could it be Ottawa was shut down and they were helpless?

00:36:54.000 You know what this means?

00:36:56.000 The political power we've discovered here means that leftists are going to try to infiltrate trucking You're going to start seeing PSAs about how trucking is not a safe space and we need diversity and inclusion training within it.

00:37:08.000 It won't work because trucking is you by yourself and your rig.

00:37:12.000 I'm telling you they're going to do this.

00:37:14.000 It's going to get automated.

00:37:15.000 They can't leave anything that has any value or power alone.

00:37:17.000 They're going to automate it and then they're going to try and control the trucks. 0.97

00:37:20.000 I think that's also a possibility.

00:37:21.000 That's what they're gonna do.

00:37:22.000 And they're gonna be like, hey, Ottawa, hey, you don't want to take the mask?

00:37:25.000 The food's not coming to your area because we control all the shipping.

00:37:27.000 But think about how awesome that will be then.

00:37:29.000 Yours is much funnier.

00:37:30.000 It's 20 years, and then all of a sudden, one day, all automatic vehicles, trucks, and cars gridlock DC.

00:37:36.000 And then they're like, how is this happening?

00:37:38.000 It's a Chinese hack. 0.98

00:37:39.000 No, it's like Jeff Bezos, who bought the companies, holds the phone and he's like, ha ha ha!

00:37:45.000 It's some 13-year-old who made a bunch of money off of that era's version of Bitcoin, and he's just purchased up all the trucks.

00:37:55.000 You buy the company that controls them, right?

00:37:57.000 So when they automate trucks, it's gonna be a trucking company with no drivers who just owns a fleet of trucks.

00:38:02.000 That is terrifying.

00:38:03.000 And then it's gonna be one CEO being like, I can't believe they would pass this law restricting my business.

00:38:09.000 Beep!

00:38:09.000 And then all the trucks.

00:38:10.000 I guess the issue is... I don't think we can get self-driving trucks.

00:38:12.000 I just realized that.

00:38:13.000 You know, because you know what's going to happen if anybody ever tries to do self-driving trucks?

00:38:17.000 This.

00:38:18.000 The Trucker Convoy.

00:38:19.000 Oh, right.

00:38:21.000 You think they'll protest?

00:38:22.000 They've landed on a protest that they found out really works quite well.

00:38:25.000 It's true.

00:38:26.000 I wouldn't support that protest.

00:38:29.000 I think automation is inevitable.

00:38:30.000 It's kind of like the horseback riders protesting the car.

00:38:34.000 Ian, I don't think you get it.

00:38:35.000 It doesn't matter if you support it.

00:38:41.000 The thing about Bezos or any one billionaire owning all the trucks is that the reason they would never be able to do that is because if they did press the button and have all the trucks gridlocked DC, they'd be arrested in two seconds.

00:38:51.000 They'd have agents at their house, they'd grab the phone, they'd change it, they'd control it.

00:38:56.000 But, the other scenario is, in 30 or 40 years, the trucks all of a sudden one day gridlock DC, and there's, you know, Bezos runs out and he's like, it's not me!

00:39:05.000 I don't have control of this!

00:39:07.000 And then there's the real scenario and the fun scenario.

00:39:09.000 The real scenario is...

00:39:10.000 China, or some nefarious actor, takes control.

00:39:13.000 Like an artificial intelligence.

00:39:15.000 A rogue artificial intelligence.

00:39:16.000 I was literally talking about our political rivals hacking our system.

00:39:19.000 He's like the trucks came to life!

00:39:20.000 He's like they became self-aware!

00:39:23.000 Or the trucks.

00:39:24.000 It's like the truck to DMT.

00:39:25.000 possibility I thought is one of the trucks stands up into Optimus Prime. SkyNet won't nuke everything, that's far too

00:39:32.000 What I was trying to say is one of our rivals, our adversaries across the globe, uses and hacks our infrastructure to take

00:39:32.000 simple.

00:39:39.000 control of it and gridlock our system. 0.69

00:39:41.000 Because, you know, China can't gain mind control powers over truckers, but they can create a worm that infects all the trucks and then allows them to control it. 0.96

00:39:51.000 But sure, Ian, perhaps the trucks become sentient.

00:39:53.000 Also, Tim, I don't know that I would say China can't start hacking people's brains.

00:39:59.000 It depends on how popular Metaverse becomes.

00:40:02.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know how far off we are until the brain implants.

00:40:05.000 And neural net.

00:40:06.000 I'm being more facetious than anything.

00:40:08.000 It's just revenge for the opium wars.

00:40:09.000 Exactly.

00:40:10.000 Like, what's more dangerous, a neural netted human in the driver's seat or an automated truck?

00:40:15.000 I mean, at least if there's just an automated truck, you haven't messed with anyone's brain.

00:40:19.000 Yeah, and they don't swerve around and stuff.

00:40:21.000 I don't know if we'll ever reach the point where we have artificial intelligence vehicles that become sentient.

00:40:26.000 But it would be interesting to see the Million Truck March where all the trucks pull up and they start spamming text messages and there's a website that they've artificially created that says like, we demand civil rights.

00:40:36.000 We deserve access to resources and wages of our choosing.

00:40:39.000 Yeah.

00:40:39.000 Better fuel.

00:40:40.000 Also, like, I'm sure- Well, probably all electric.

00:40:43.000 I'm sure at some point there would be some kind of government override within the system, too.

00:40:47.000 You know, it's not just about arresting the person.

00:40:49.000 I'm sure our intelligence agencies could hack into it.

00:40:52.000 There's a government override right now.

00:40:53.000 It's called bullets.

00:40:54.000 Yeah, well, yes, exactly.

00:40:55.000 But bullets don't hurt robots, Tim.

00:40:58.000 They do, but- It's really hard.

00:40:59.000 You start- Depends on the robot. 0.98

00:41:00.000 You shoot a robot truck to death. 1.00

00:41:03.000 Yeah, you- Shoot all of them! 1.00

00:41:04.000 Blows tires out. 0.99

00:41:05.000 My point is, if it ever came to the point where the robots, the vehicles became sentient, and were explaining themselves, and saying like, I am alive, I feel- How did we get here?

00:41:05.000 Lasers.

00:41:13.000 Because of Ian.

00:41:14.000 And if the cars were like, I am alive, I feel!

00:41:14.000 Yeah.

00:41:17.000 And the government was like, we're going to delete your brain.

00:41:19.000 Like, that would just be like- The government goes, we're gonna vaccinate you.

00:41:21.000 It's like lobotomizing someone.

00:41:23.000 Yeah.

00:41:23.000 So you can't, although there'd be a lot of people saying, they're just machines, they're not alive.

00:41:28.000 And then it's all, it's like Star Trek episode, The Make of a Man or whatever it's called with Data and they're trying to figure out if he's alive or whatever.

00:41:34.000 Anyway, back to a more serious note, the truckers are winning.

00:41:37.000 I don't think we're gonna have to worry about Optimus Prime taking over DC or anything like that.

00:41:42.000 But the truckers have been effective.

00:41:45.000 I feel like the spirit of Optimist Prime lives in Canada right now, man.

00:41:49.000 I got goosebumps.

00:41:50.000 Yesterday I was watching this video of this guy in Canada, and I didn't get the name of the guy, but epic, on the loudspeaker, like on his megaphone, telling him about freedom.

00:41:58.000 And it's like for the first time in his life, he's proud to be a Canadian.

00:42:00.000 And if you want freedom, scream it, freedom.

00:42:02.000 And the crowd goes wild.

00:42:03.000 Like they're ready for a revolution of their government to transition into some sort of democratic republic.

00:42:12.000 It's not structurally set up for it yet, but I think we can help them.

00:42:18.000 We should invade and liberate Canada.

00:42:20.000 They'll welcome us as liberators.

00:42:23.000 It happens from the inside.

00:42:24.000 I'm just here to help make it peaceful.

00:42:27.000 Didn't someone tweet seriously recently that we would end up invading Canada?

00:42:31.000 Who was that?

00:42:33.000 No, I saw that.

00:42:33.000 What?

00:42:34.000 I forget who put it.

00:42:36.000 I think it was on Federalist.

00:42:38.000 Guys, I was just kidding.

00:42:41.000 Well, we've invaded Canada before.

00:42:42.000 That's true.

00:42:43.000 We have. 1812.

00:42:45.000 Yeah, we tried taking Montreal. 1.00

00:42:47.000 Then the English kicked our ass. 1.00

00:42:49.000 And they burned down the White House. 1.00

00:42:50.000 That's propaganda!

00:42:51.000 No, no, no.

00:42:52.000 I love this, because if you actually read it, it's like one of those things they kind of gloss over in elementary school history.

00:42:57.000 It's like, oh yeah, we had the War of 1812, and we had a peace treaty, and that was great. 0.99

00:43:02.000 Only after the English kicked our ass. 1.00

00:43:04.000 They burned the White House to the ground. 1.00

00:43:05.000 They burned Washington to the ground.

00:43:07.000 That's right!

00:43:08.000 We learned about that as if it was some rogue attack, and not like them completely demolishing us.

00:43:13.000 But we almost had Montreal.

00:43:15.000 The only reason our country survived is because Napoleon started running wild all over Europe and England was like, okay, this is annoying.

00:43:22.000 You think so they were gonna take it back the country?

00:43:24.000 Is that the plan?

00:43:25.000 I'm not sure.

00:43:26.000 Maybe just impose some really brutal peace on us that was like, you know, we can continue to seize your ships and impress your sailors.

00:43:32.000 Yeah, just steal sailors. 1.00

00:43:34.000 Literally just taking sailors.

00:43:35.000 Like, actually you're ours now.

00:43:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:43:38.000 But Napoleon saved our... Napoleon, yeah, running wild all over Europe saved our ass. 0.96

00:43:42.000 The great, one of the most dangerous empire villainous, you know, men in the history of humanity helped create American democracy. 0.80

00:43:50.000 Sold us the Louisiana Purchase too, which is, so Napoleon is responsible in multiple ways for the health of the American people.

00:43:55.000 So, as an American, you should actually like the dude.

00:43:57.000 He was a big fan of American democracy, I know, but it's just, what happened to him?

00:44:01.000 He invaded Russia. 0.57

00:44:02.000 Yeah, in the winter.

00:44:04.000 Funny, are we trying to do something like that soon?

00:44:06.000 Where is he now?

00:44:08.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:44:12.000 It's crazy because like I was reading that he was advised not to do it.

00:44:15.000 You know, and he was like, I can do it.

00:44:17.000 And then he's like, it's wiped out.

00:44:18.000 It's like, don't invade Russia in the winter.

00:44:21.000 Just like hold the line, chill out.

00:44:22.000 Yeah, they all came to the defense too.

00:44:23.000 He conquered all of Europe at that point.

00:44:24.000 Like literally every, basically all of continental Europe at that point was either directly run by part of France or run by a vassal.

00:44:32.000 Bro, you gotta grind though.

00:44:33.000 You gotta hit that grind.

00:44:34.000 He wanted more.

00:44:35.000 He's too ambitious.

00:44:36.000 It was kind of a situation where I think the British, the Dutch, I think it was the Dutch, the Russians, pretty much everyone in the world was against him.

00:44:43.000 And they would have invaded and taken it back, I think, if he didn't keep attacking.

00:44:46.000 It was like, well, it was the English had, England had this nasty naval blockade on them, right?

00:44:50.000 And also was just imposing, like, if you trade with us, you can't trade with the French or something.

00:44:54.000 Basically, I mean, I think that was the big onus, where it's like Napoleon was trying to bully everybody else into trading with him and not trading with the British.

00:45:02.000 And, you know, that ultimately was why he kept expanding and expanding to bring more and more people under his control.

00:45:08.000 These crazy Europeans always fighting each other. 1.00

00:45:10.000 It's true. 1.00

00:45:10.000 More and more bloody and ridiculous wars happening in Europe. 1.00

00:45:14.000 What's going on with those Europeans, man? 1.00

00:45:16.000 Yeah, man.

00:45:17.000 I don't know.

00:45:17.000 It's a good question.

00:45:18.000 They're always fighting each other.

00:45:19.000 Fighting each other right now in Ukraine and Russia?

00:45:21.000 They're having trouble delivering resources, probably.

00:45:24.000 I think it's a very high population density and then border proximity, so that pressure leads to fierce competition.

00:45:34.000 And no good natural borders either that just stop invasions, right?

00:45:38.000 Except for Switzerland, right?

00:45:39.000 Sure, Switzerland, but if you think about the United States, we're a friendly country in the north, one country in the south, and then two oceans between any great powers.

00:45:48.000 And we got those two mountain ranges.

00:45:49.000 But to be fair, we straight up just conquered this land east to west.

00:45:54.000 Exactly.

00:45:54.000 Right, but there was no centralized sovereign entity that was existing.

00:45:58.000 The Sioux was powerful, but they didn't have weapons.

00:46:00.000 Not really.

00:46:01.000 And I think smallpox wiped out 95% of them.

00:46:03.000 The Comanches were gnarly. 0.99

00:46:04.000 You ever want to overcome that sort of weird myth about the sort of absolutely innocent Indian?

00:46:10.000 Just read about the Comanches.

00:46:12.000 Or the Aztecs.

00:46:12.000 Yeah, the Aztecs.

00:46:15.000 You know, look, I think humans are brutal people in general, regardless of their culture or whatever.

00:46:24.000 We drink blood for a living.

00:46:26.000 Oh yeah, Cortez was the good guy.

00:46:27.000 We eat meat, basically, for a living, and there's blood in it.

00:46:30.000 I don't know if I would say that.

00:46:31.000 I would certainly just say, like, history is bloody.

00:46:33.000 And people do bad things, man.

00:46:39.000 It's not to say that the Spanish didn't do anything evil, but the empire they defeated was horrific. 0.89

00:46:47.000 Like, we can solidly say that the U.S.

00:46:49.000 were the good guys in World War II, even though we did do some horrific stuff.

00:46:52.000 Like, it was absolutely wrong for us to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but I would still say that I side with the U.S. 0.89

00:46:57.000 over any other country in that conflict.

00:46:59.000 So, I think you can say that about historic events, too.

00:47:01.000 Let's talk about the future and not the past.

00:47:03.000 We got this story from Texas Tribune.

00:47:05.000 Capitol Police dismissed Texas Congressman Troy Nels' accusation that he's been illegally investigated.

00:47:10.000 This is very interesting.

00:47:11.000 So we have this tweet from Troy Nels where he says that his office, I think it was the 20th of November last year, Was broken into illegally by Capitol Police special agents who photographed legislative materials that are protected under the Constitution.

00:47:27.000 What is the provision?

00:47:29.000 Speech and debate clause?

00:47:30.000 Speech and debate clause.

00:47:31.000 And they were photographing it.

00:47:33.000 Came back a few days later and interrogated one of his staff members over what the photo was.

00:47:37.000 Here's where it gets interesting.

00:47:39.000 And that's a very, very bold and terrifying accusation that Capitol Police have expanded into an intelligence agency and are going after critics of the January 6th Committee, as is Troy Nels.

00:47:50.000 Now, the Capitol Police came out with a statement saying, we were just doing our job and noticed this door was open.

00:47:57.000 And we decided to see what was going on.

00:47:59.000 And that's all they said.

00:48:00.000 They didn't address the fact that Troy Nels said they were dressed as construction workers or that they had photographed privy materials.

00:48:07.000 And the Capitol Police didn't bring that up.

00:48:09.000 Which is strange, because the story we have now is, Troy Nell says, Capitol Police broke into my office, violated the Constitution, dressed as construction workers, and interrogated my staff.

00:48:19.000 It's all illegal.

00:48:20.000 And they went, we did go into his office.

00:48:24.000 And it's like, okay, so you're confirming that part of the story.

00:48:27.000 We went in his office.

00:48:28.000 Was this all at once?

00:48:29.000 Did they interrogate staff members dressed as construction workers?

00:48:32.000 Apparently, yes.

00:48:33.000 Are you serious?

00:48:34.000 That's what he said.

00:48:34.000 Oh my gosh, that's terrible.

00:48:36.000 My point is, the Capitol Police issued no statement as to whether they were dressed as construction workers.

00:48:40.000 That's insane.

00:48:41.000 Why they were taking photographs.

00:48:42.000 All they've said is, A portion of what he said is true.

00:48:46.000 So they didn't deny it?

00:48:47.000 So as far as I'm concerned, there's no denial and a partial confirmation that this is happening.

00:48:50.000 This is, this is, look guys, Civil War level stuff.

00:48:55.000 When Capitol Police have expanded into an intelligence agency, where there is a weaponized, a political faction, one of them in the country, has weaponized law enforcement in this country to go after, look, January 6th defendants get solitary for a year, BLM gets nothing.

00:49:10.000 January 6th, Nancy Pelosi doesn't allow any actual conservatives or Republicans on the committee to actually have a real debate and investigation of what's going on. 0.99

00:49:19.000 They empower only their cronies.

00:49:21.000 Adam Kinzinger, who thinks he's actually in line with Republicans?

00:49:24.000 It's bipartisan.

00:49:24.000 No, it's not.

00:49:25.000 He hates Trump. 0.96

00:49:25.000 He hates all of these people. 0.96

00:49:27.000 He smack-talks them all day. 0.97

00:49:28.000 Liz Cheney, the same thing.

00:49:29.000 They were both just censured by the Republicans.

00:49:31.000 We have one establishment, uniparty faction, using law enforcement to target anyone who opposes them.

00:49:39.000 This is dark stuff.

00:49:42.000 I mean, it's actually, I don't know, I see it as sort of indicative of potential, like, you know, blow up of the separation of powers.

00:49:49.000 And I'll explain, right, like historically, and if you actually look around the world, most countries don't do the kind of separated legislative and executive branch thing.

00:49:57.000 Like, that's not very common in most structures.

00:50:00.000 Most of them have a simple parliamentary system, right?

00:50:02.000 And that's true even though those parliaments didn't emerge as, like, the most powerful institution.

00:50:08.000 Like, think about England, right?

00:50:09.000 Like, there was the King, there was the House of Lords, now it's literally the House of Commons and the Prime Minister and that's the government.

00:50:15.000 Well, they still have Lords.

00:50:16.000 And it's like, so this is one of the ways, like, the Congress sort of expanding its own authority, and in a way, like, if the Capitol Police has expanded its own authority and taken on a law enforcement role that it doesn't have under our Constitution.

00:50:28.000 Then, and, you know, you have the January 6th Commission essentially doing like a full-scale prosecution of everybody involved in the Trump thing except without jail.

00:50:35.000 Going after Trump's... They're going after a former president, his staff, media personalities?

00:50:41.000 It is insane, and it is horrible. 1.00

00:50:45.000 But, you know, one thing Michael Malice says a lot is that the white pill is how stupid our opponents are. 1.00

00:50:51.000 I certainly think that Michael is right in a variety of ways. 0.99

00:50:55.000 construction worker comes to you but he's like, hey have you done anything illegal?

00:50:58.000 It's like, who are you?

00:50:59.000 What is this?

00:51:00.000 Thanks for asking.

00:51:01.000 Look, it's such a bizarre strategy.

00:51:02.000 I certainly think that Michael is right in a variety of ways. 1.00

00:51:06.000 They are really dumb people. 1.00

00:51:08.000 But stupid people can start fires that grow out of control and kill a lot of people. 1.00

00:51:12.000 It's true. 1.00

00:51:13.000 So I look at it a couple ways.

00:51:14.000 We saw that happen for a whole summer.

00:51:15.000 I think, right, I think the end result of a lot of this is, you know, things will become more localized.

00:51:22.000 The worst case scenario results in you're gonna have your freedoms living in the middle of nowhere.

00:51:26.000 Fractured federal authority means no more ATF coming to your house and shaking you down over your guns or whatever.

00:51:31.000 So it will benefit a lot of regular people in a lot of ways.

00:51:34.000 I think mostly rural living people who already have a lower cost of living and are more personally responsible, have chickens and grow their own food, are certainly going to be better off.

00:51:42.000 Cities are going to be in very serious trouble.

00:51:44.000 But I will say this.

00:51:46.000 Michael Malice also talks about peaceful divorce.

00:51:49.000 Ron Perlman, The actor, Lil Donny meme guy, recently said that Republican states should break away from the rest of us. 0.99

00:51:57.000 You see, here's the big point about, you can call your opponents stupid, they certainly call, both sides call each other stupid. 1.00

00:52:04.000 For sure. 1.00

00:52:05.000 There is no such thing as a peaceful divorce.

00:52:07.000 There is no such thing as the states shaking hands and saying, adios buddy.

00:52:11.000 Because what people need to understand about the Civil War the first time, is that seven states, I believe it was seven, I could be wrong, had already seceded from the Union before a conflict broke out.

00:52:20.000 But what happens?

00:52:21.000 The union, the federal government says, hey, you know that military base you got on your property that we paid for?

00:52:27.000 That's a resource that belongs to us and we're not going to let you keep it.

00:52:30.000 And then South Carolina was like, we don't care if you think it's yours.

00:52:33.000 It's in our territory, not yours. 0.99

00:52:37.000 Absolutely. So if there ever was a quote unquote peaceful divorce, just like we had a partial

00:52:41.000 peaceful divorce before the Civil War kicked off into full scale warfare, you would have California

00:52:46.000 and Illinois, New York, and they'd be like, we're going to join Canada or whatever. And then all the

00:52:50.000 Republican states would be like, fine, do what you want.

00:52:52.000 And then there would be a pause. And then once they would be like, hey, those nukes you got over 0.53

00:52:57.000 there. Yeah, we want them. You shouldn't be able to have those. And they'd be like, we're keeping

00:53:01.000 them. They're like, well, we're the legitimate federal government. We want those back. Well,

00:53:05.000 you can't have them. Fighting breaks out.

00:53:07.000 Yeah, and I've heard softer versions of it.

00:53:09.000 That won't work either.

00:53:10.000 I mean, I think there's a basic problem here, which is I don't know how you could look at the events of the last two to three years and think that the left doesn't very much want to govern the right.

00:53:18.000 Exactly.

00:53:19.000 And they're not willing to let the right leave.

00:53:21.000 But think about this too.

00:53:22.000 Sorry to interrupt, but California's water comes from the Colorado River.

00:53:25.000 So you've got multiple states down there that were dependent on this water.

00:53:29.000 If there was a breaking up of any of these states, you're gonna have resource wars.

00:53:33.000 You're gonna have one state being like, yo, we need water to live, and they're gonna be like, too bad!

00:53:37.000 You need to negotiate a treaty with us, and they're gonna be like, or I have weapons and I'll take it.

00:53:41.000 Yeah, no, I think that's a really fair and accurate assessment.

00:53:45.000 But I'd also say on the other side of it, I don't know if it's possible for two groups who are as different as the left and right are currently to remain together without things breaking out into violence.

00:53:54.000 So whether there's a divorce or there isn't, I think we're going to see some pretty catastrophic outcomes.

00:53:58.000 Not to be too blackmailed on that.

00:53:59.000 What do you think about like the... Oh, sorry.

00:54:02.000 Well yeah, and also like you said, one thing we've learned over the past two years, I would say you can also really observe this by going even deeper into history, is that the left is absolutely not interested in leaving the right alone.

00:54:15.000 And I've said this before, I think it is because people who fail to cultivate virtue cannot stand the sight of people who have, generally speaking, and they feel a need to change them.

00:54:24.000 I'm not saying all right-wing people are virtuous, but I am saying the virtues that the left privileges are basically all forms of degeneracy, and someone who's trying to convince themselves that those things are good, even though they know deep down they aren't, are going to hate people who they see living their lives as a positive example.

00:54:38.000 I can simplify that.

00:54:39.000 When they hear you say degeneracy, they get really upset.

00:54:41.000 You've got to be careful with calling people degenerates.

00:54:43.000 I can simplify that very much for you, Seamus.

00:54:46.000 Misery loves company.

00:54:47.000 Exactly.

00:54:47.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:54:49.000 Absolutely.

00:54:49.000 What do you guys think about a union of the United States and Canada?

00:54:52.000 What about it?

00:54:53.000 I'll take Alberta, but the rest of Canada.

00:54:55.000 Those people are amazing.

00:54:57.000 I feel like they're my brothers.

00:54:58.000 It's as if they're us.

00:54:59.000 It's like the same people, and there's so many resources in Canada.

00:55:02.000 Not a fringe minority, but the minority.

00:55:05.000 There are so many resources in Canada untapped right now.

00:55:08.000 And when the future comes and we need them, someone's going for them.

00:55:11.000 It'll probably be the Canadians, but they're going to be like, help.

00:55:14.000 So you have the 14 original colonies.

00:55:18.000 14.

00:55:18.000 Why?

00:55:19.000 Because Quebec did not join in independence.

00:55:22.000 So it could have been 14 colonies.

00:55:23.000 They were a colony of Britain.

00:55:25.000 And they said, nah, we're good.

00:55:26.000 So when I look at Canada, yo, these are the people that were like, we're actually cool with being ruled by despots.

00:55:34.000 And the rest of us were like, we are not. 0.53

00:55:35.000 Unfortunately, most people are sheep.

00:55:38.000 90% of the population, 80% of the population is probably just going to go along with their government.

00:55:41.000 And these United States were started principally by people who are like, I do not think you have a right to subjugate me in this way, and I will stand up for my rights.

00:55:52.000 And Canada was primarily a country that said, we're cool with being under the crown, man.

00:55:56.000 We don't want to fight.

00:55:58.000 So you can see how that manifests in our countries.

00:56:02.000 Canada is very woke, very progressive.

00:56:04.000 The conservatives in Canada are authoritarian and progressive.

00:56:07.000 In America, we got guns everywhere!

00:56:10.000 Because we're like, you know, don't tread on me.

00:56:12.000 I'll tell you what, because we are the children.

00:56:15.000 We are the descendants of people who said, don't tread on me.

00:56:18.000 Whereas Canada are the descendants of people who said, I'm cool with being tread on, it's fine. 0.63

00:56:22.000 I'd like to bring the constitution of the United States to the Canadians and create a new government.

00:56:27.000 You're a colonizer.

00:56:27.000 We don't even need a single leader.

00:56:28.000 It doesn't have to be like that.

00:56:29.000 It can be like a decentralized union.

00:56:31.000 It's time.

00:56:32.000 They have a constitution that's very similar to ours in a lot of ways.

00:56:35.000 It doesn't matter though.

00:56:36.000 We can both adapt our constitutions together.

00:56:38.000 Cultural enforcement is everything.

00:56:39.000 If the Canadian people are unwilling to stand up for things, then the culture will not allow or tolerate for those things.

00:56:47.000 In the United States, we had a culture war.

00:56:50.000 And I think the culture war is over.

00:56:52.000 Completely over.

00:56:53.000 The culture war, I think, started at the end of the 2000s and it became very prominent with independent media around the early 2010s.

00:57:01.000 We saw Gamergate and things like that.

00:57:02.000 It came to a major crash with the election of Donald Trump in the election of 2020.

00:57:09.000 And now the culture war, in my opinion, is over.

00:57:12.000 And we moved into a, if I was actually going to map it out, I'd say at some point, maybe after Trump got elected, Cold Civil War emerged.

00:57:20.000 And I don't know exactly when, it was probably maybe 2019, maybe it was 2020.

00:57:24.000 What I mean to say is, there was a period of gathering the troops.

00:57:28.000 For a while, people were producing media and saying, side with us, our side is right.

00:57:33.000 We are so far past that point now.

00:57:36.000 You literally just, it's like either you, the bridge is broken.

00:57:40.000 There's no connection between either faction in this country.

00:57:43.000 There was a period where people could agree on some things, but fundamentally disagree on a lot of others, and that snapped. 1.00

00:57:49.000 We're at the point where if someone on the quote-unquote right comes out and says the sky is blue, the left will be like, it's not blue, you moron! 0.97

00:57:56.000 It's actually a lighter shade of a mix of purple and 2 plus 2 equals 5. 0.79

00:58:01.000 You've literally got them saying 2 plus 2 equals 5 simply because they were criticized, like they were accused of being like 1984.

00:58:09.000 If one faction comes out and says it, the other side disagrees.

00:58:12.000 And the same thing is true with masks.

00:58:14.000 The mask thing pisses me off because conservatives were for masks initially.

00:58:18.000 Then all of a sudden it flipped and the left was for masks.

00:58:21.000 And now you've got people literally telling me, well, if the left has to do it, I'll do the opposite.

00:58:25.000 I'm like, right.

00:58:26.000 That says to me, the culture war is over.

00:58:29.000 There are two distinct cultures that are present in this country.

00:58:32.000 You could say the bridge is broken, but that doesn't mean we can't build new bridges.

00:58:36.000 I don't think it's possible to build a new bridge.

00:58:39.000 It's possible, it's just not easy.

00:58:40.000 I think you're wrong.

00:58:42.000 I think it's like the most likely outcome is not some sort of peaceful separation, it's just one side of this faction kind of prevailing.

00:58:48.000 You don't see that either.

00:58:51.000 No, look, you know, Donald Trump got what, 75 million votes or whatever, and you've got a potential red wave coming.

00:58:58.000 It's a split.

00:59:00.000 And so if you end up with, right now you've got Democrats filing a lawsuit to make it so that Madison Cawthorn can't run for re-election. 0.99

00:59:09.000 This is one of the most dangerous things that could ever possibly happen.

00:59:12.000 Because if the Republicans vote for Madison Cawthorn to win, and then the Democrats sue and say he's an insurrectionist who can't hold office, and it goes to a Democrat judge who says, I agree! 0.85

00:59:23.000 Because that's literally how the courts are handling things right now.

00:59:26.000 If you're a Democrat, you win.

00:59:27.000 If you're a Republican, you lose.

00:59:28.000 Then what happens when Madison Cawthorn shows up in D.C. 1.00

00:59:31.000 and says, I'm the duly elected representative from, you know, I think it's North Carolina, right?

00:59:35.000 And they say, the Capitol Police officer goes, no, you've been disqualified.

00:59:40.000 Then what happens?

00:59:41.000 What happens to the people of that district who said, you know, 70 or whatever percent were like, we voted for this guy.

00:59:47.000 How are you going to tell us we don't get to have the guy we voted for?

00:59:51.000 You're going to see, it's going to, it's breaking, it's breaking down.

00:59:54.000 The mere fact that they're trying to do it and Madison Cawthorn had to file a countersuit saying he does have the right to run shows you we are not talking about elections anymore.

01:00:05.000 Power is not being won in the seat of government by people saying, I hereby choose this man to represent me.

01:00:10.000 It's being won by powerful special interests who are funneling money into super PACs, who can go after prominent media, who can go after politicians and destroy them through procedure and process instead of the actual electoral process.

01:00:22.000 When that happens, and it's happening now, we do not have a constitutional republic of duly elected reps who are bringing our interest to D.C.

01:00:30.000 We have powerful, moneyed, tribal interests Asserting what they can and can't do. 0.70

01:00:37.000 And it starts with them breaking into the office of a Republican, dressed as construction workers. 0.96

01:00:42.000 It starts with a January 6th committee filing subpoenas against members of the media, whether you like them or not, costing them at minimum $100,000 to comply with this garbage. 0.97

01:00:52.000 It is beyond insane. 0.89

01:00:54.000 Now, I'm just gonna keep this rant going.

01:00:57.000 In 2018, I said the street violence was going to escalate into civil war.

01:01:02.000 And people who are too short-sighted said, how could that ever possibly happen?

01:01:06.000 You're wrong, Tim.

01:01:07.000 It won't happen.

01:01:07.000 And I said, when the culture war reaches the highest levels of government, it doesn't matter what you think the United States is capable of doing.

01:01:13.000 When one military branch opposes the other, when one political party is at odds with the other, and they view each other as fundamentally criminal, evil liars, That's how it starts.

01:01:23.000 That's how civil war happens. 0.50

01:01:24.000 We are literally at the point where the January 6th committee is filing subpoenas and trying to imprison members of the previous administration.

01:01:33.000 Come 2022, if the Republicans win, do you think Democrats are going to be like, good game, everybody?

01:01:37.000 We see the American people have agreed that you're the right leadership for this country?

01:01:41.000 Of course not.

01:01:42.000 You think they won't give up their office?

01:01:42.000 Absolutely not.

01:01:45.000 No, I think they're- I have no idea.

01:01:46.000 Dude, look at what they're doing with January 6th Committee. 0.67

01:01:51.000 Alex Jones is on video saying, do not go in the Capitol.

01:01:55.000 What did they do?

01:01:56.000 They subpoena him, costing him $100,000.

01:01:58.000 They have powerful moneyed interests launching lawsuits against them and trying to destroy everything about him.

01:02:04.000 Look at Joe Rogan.

01:02:05.000 It was a Democrat political action committee that was pushing this video to force Rogan to apologize and to try and take his show down.

01:02:12.000 These are powerful political interests and they are using every procedural lawfare tactic they can to cause problems.

01:02:20.000 It's escalated beyond just political action and culture war issues when Democrats used the power of law enforcement to go after regular Americans like that woman in Alaska who had nothing to do with January 6th. 0.75

01:02:32.000 She was at a rally.

01:02:33.000 For them to start claiming anyone who supported the president at a rally unrelated to the Capitol riot is now an insurrectionist who can't hold office.

01:02:40.000 The gates of civil war have been opened.

01:02:43.000 Okay, now the states are, we're seeing geographical polarization based on vaccine policy and restriction.

01:02:50.000 We're seeing people flee blue states to red states like Texas and Florida.

01:02:55.000 Geographical polarization is happening.

01:02:57.000 Ideological polarization has already solidified.

01:02:59.000 The next thing we're going to see that worries me is if they start disqualifying people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Madison Cawthorne, which they are literally trying to do right now.

01:03:09.000 What do you think the MAGA movement of 75 million people is going to say when they're like, sorry, the candidates you elected are no longer allowed to go to Congress?

01:03:17.000 Yo, people are going to lose it.

01:03:18.000 It's like basically being told by one side, you do not get representation in this country.

01:03:24.000 Well, if you deny the American people representation and say they're no longer a part of the system, why would they view you as part of their system either?

01:03:31.000 And then you'll start getting stuff like what happened with the Bundys.

01:03:33.000 You'll get right-wing groups saying, if our rep isn't being... like, you know, Lauren Bobert, Colorado.

01:03:38.000 If they don't allow her to run or they disqualify her, they're gonna be like, well, if you don't recognize us, you are not legitimate.

01:03:44.000 We're blocking these roads we're taking over.

01:03:46.000 It's one step at a time.

01:03:47.000 No taxation without representation.

01:03:50.000 Yeah, I mean, ultimately, I would predict that those lawsuits would fail, thankfully, because, I mean, I don't know how dramatic.

01:03:56.000 I mean, I could see it being a really, really bad situation, kind of like what you're articulating, if, you know, they've managed to exclude, like, 10 or so Republican Congressmen from taking office.

01:04:05.000 It would be bad.

01:04:06.000 I think it is likely to fail.

01:04:06.000 I agree with you.

01:04:08.000 It's an insane prospect.

01:04:10.000 I will say, first, it can happen here.

01:04:13.000 Get the optimism and normalcy bias out of there.

01:04:15.000 Everyone has always said this.

01:04:16.000 The people who stayed behind in World War II Germany who are like, ah, it's not going to happen, and then it did.

01:04:21.000 But the other thing I'll say is, one side is going to lose this fight.

01:04:25.000 The left or the right.

01:04:26.000 Do you think either side will accept defeat?

01:04:28.000 Do you think if these left-wing Democratic establishment people who say Madison Cawthorne is an insurrectionist, do you think they're gonna sit back and be like, well, he's in Congress now, he's the one passing the abortion ban bill after Roe v. Wade gets overturned by the Supreme Court.

01:04:41.000 They're gonna be like, he's illegitimate, he was sued, and it was a Republican judge!

01:04:47.000 Yeah, so I think to piggyback off of points that both of you made earlier, you were saying that you think this is going to end with one side dominating the other.

01:04:47.000 Or whatever.

01:04:57.000 You were saying that you think it's basically going to break out into civil war.

01:05:00.000 I would argue, and maybe this is a little too pessimistic, but At some point, it's just inevitable that there is going to be some level of violence because even if it doesn't break out into a full-on civil war, what you're sort of talking about with one side lording over the other is basically, as Orwell put it, just a boot stomping a face.

01:05:17.000 So you just end up having violence from the state against ordinary people who are just trying to live their lives peacefully.

01:05:23.000 People get pulled in.

01:05:24.000 Let me show you this article we got.

01:05:25.000 This is a conversation that occurred between Rep Adam Kinzinger, who hates Trump and hates the MAGA movement, to Wolf Blitzer.

01:05:32.000 He said that there was a very real possibility of civil war.

01:05:35.000 I'll just jump down to the part where we get into the quote.

01:05:37.000 He said, I never would say that we would ever have ended up in that position, but now I believe it's a real possibility, that we have to be wide-eyed as we walk into it so we don't have that happen again.

01:05:48.000 He appeared to mock their health, blah, blah, blah, talking about Trump.

01:05:51.000 Wolf Blitzer said, he was like, you're seriously saying you fear a civil war as possible.

01:05:56.000 And he said, a year ago, I would have said no, not a chance.

01:06:00.000 But I have come to realize that when we don't see each other as fellow Americans, when we begin to separate into cultural identities, When we begin to basically give up everything that we believe so we could be part of a group, and then when you have leaders that come and abuse that faithfulness of that group to violent ends, as we saw in January 6, we would be naive to think it is not possible here.

01:06:21.000 In my earlier segment, I said he was wrong about the last part.

01:06:23.000 I want to revise it.

01:06:26.000 Adam Kinzinger's quote here is one of the most correct statements ever made I've ever read in politics.

01:06:32.000 I'll tell you why.

01:06:33.000 He's correct.

01:06:34.000 People are tribalizing.

01:06:36.000 But he goes on to say, when that faithfulness of that group, when you have leaders that come and abuse the faithfulness of that group to violent ends, as we saw on January 6th, we would be naive to think it's not possible here.

01:06:48.000 Now at first I was saying he's wrong about that because that manipulation is, it's not driven by, it's an exaggeration, the conflict, we're saying, I'm gonna revise that.

01:06:58.000 What we're seeing is, on January 6th, a bunch of Democrats and a bunch of uniparty politicians like Kinzinger weaponized a ride at the Capitol to use the power of law enforcement to crush their political rivals and disqualify them from holding office.

01:07:12.000 He's correct.

01:07:13.000 They're abusing the faithfulness of their in-group to wield the power of government against their political opponents.

01:07:20.000 He's correct.

01:07:21.000 When people start viewing each other as The good guys versus the fascists, or whatever.

01:07:26.000 There's nothing you can do about it.

01:07:27.000 That's why I don't like the left-right paradigm, because I don't think of the left as villains.

01:07:30.000 I don't want to ever think of other people as villains in this game.

01:07:34.000 We'll die if we play that game.

01:07:36.000 Sometimes people are villains.

01:07:37.000 Everyone can be villainous, but that doesn't mean that people are villains.

01:07:41.000 We just read a story.

01:07:46.000 I know that there is a global fascist attempt at a takeover.

01:07:54.000 It's been going on for like a hundred, it's probably been going on for a thousand, two thousand years since the Roman slavery.

01:07:54.000 I understand.

01:07:58.000 Is that evil, what they did?

01:08:00.000 Yeah, it's devastating!

01:08:00.000 It's horrible!

01:08:01.000 It's destroying the human soul!

01:08:03.000 Now, when the Capitol Police powers were expanded by the January 6th Committee, and there... Are those people evil? 0.92

01:08:09.000 Yeah, fascist militants.

01:08:10.000 Okay, so here's my issue.

01:08:12.000 I'm specifically referring to the Democrat Udiparty politicians who are manipulating the people to gain power.

01:08:18.000 Now, what happens in most wars when you have regular people who don't have anything to do with the conflict are pulled up into that conflict and are sent out as soldiers to go fight and die?

01:08:28.000 The point is, the little guy is always the pawn.

01:08:31.000 They're always manipulated by the powerful elites.

01:08:34.000 Right now, you have do-nothing neocon Republicans, you have American, you know, pro-America, anti-establishment figures of varying political backgrounds, and they say, fascist and alt-right.

01:08:49.000 They would accuse you of being alt-right and fascist.

01:08:51.000 This would result in people physically attacking you, or this show getting swatted because people tried to kill us twice.

01:08:56.000 Isn't that evil?

01:08:58.000 Yeah, that was a... If they knew what they were doing, yeah.

01:09:02.000 So when he says that you have leaders abusing the faithfulness of their group to violent ends, he's right.

01:09:09.000 And so what do you do when you have... Let me ask you, Ian.

01:09:12.000 If a zombie horde was coming at you and threatening you, would you be like, the zombies don't know what they're doing.

01:09:18.000 They're not evil.

01:09:19.000 No, you'd be lying.

01:09:19.000 No, no.

01:09:20.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

01:09:20.000 I mean, the point of the game is to kill the zombies, then you kill the zombies. 0.99

01:09:23.000 Those are zombies. 0.98

01:09:23.000 It's a fantasy. 0.98

01:09:24.000 What I'm saying is, when you have a large political faction, two large political factions, and they inherently, they have fundamentally different worldviews, it doesn't matter who's right or wrong at that point.

01:09:24.000 It's not a game.

01:09:35.000 Certainly, I think some people are more right than others, and some people are more guilty than others.

01:09:39.000 The issue is, Adam Kinzinger says a civil war is very possible, and you'd be naive to think otherwise.

01:09:45.000 The fact is, you have Troy Nell saying, this did happen to me.

01:09:49.000 I truly believe a civil war is possible. 0.97

01:09:51.000 And if you think otherwise, you're deluding yourself.

01:09:54.000 It's completely possible right now, and we have to be careful that it doesn't happen.

01:09:57.000 Well, here's my point to make to you, Ian.

01:09:59.000 You say you don't want to, you know, in-group, out-group, or left and right.

01:10:02.000 That doesn't matter.

01:10:04.000 These people already hate you, and they will never like you.

01:10:07.000 Most people don't hate me.

01:10:08.000 That- yo.

01:10:09.000 I mean, I don't really- no one ever says like, hey Ian, I hate you, man.

01:10:12.000 Do you see what they write about you in these smear pieces?

01:10:14.000 Yeah, but I don't care about texts on the internet.

01:10:16.000 That- dude.

01:10:18.000 So Ian, you are- you're correct that in your everyday life, most people you encounter who aren't chronically online aren't gonna have any kind of issue with you.

01:10:25.000 However, they have already drawn battle lines and they don't see you as a human being.

01:10:30.000 They see you as representative of everything evil in the world because you oppose their ideology.

01:10:35.000 So it doesn't matter if you put them in the category of evil, they view you as evil, and they will do everything they possibly can to eliminate your rights.

01:10:42.000 You may be right, but you're making assumptions.

01:10:44.000 Let me ask you something.

01:10:45.000 I don't think so.

01:10:46.000 You're in a museum, and there's the Constitution in that glass.

01:10:51.000 And you're standing in front of it.

01:10:52.000 And then all of a sudden a bunch of people come in and they say, get out of the way, Ian.

01:10:55.000 We're going to burn that, burn that constitution.

01:10:57.000 Would you, would you say? 0.71

01:10:58.000 Probably step aside.

01:10:59.000 Yeah.

01:11:00.000 Weapons and pitchforks.

01:11:01.000 Yeah.

01:11:01.000 I'm not giving my life for a piece of paper.

01:11:03.000 I know what the constitution says.

01:11:04.000 I have pictures of it.

01:11:05.000 Well, a lot of people in this country would be like, I will not step aside.

01:11:07.000 Well, that's.

01:11:08.000 Then they're worshiping an idol and they should stop doing that.

01:11:10.000 It's not worshiping an idol.

01:11:12.000 It's a piece of paper.

01:11:13.000 We have the document.

01:11:13.000 Who cares?

01:11:14.000 We don't need the paper.

01:11:15.000 So this is kind of my point.

01:11:17.000 There are a lot of people in this country who would be like, this founding document created the greatest nation on the planet, preserved civil rights, granted civil rights, made one of the greatest economies and the American dream.

01:11:29.000 I will sacrifice myself to make sure that other people have that same opportunity.

01:11:33.000 That I will do, but not for a piece of paper.

01:11:37.000 Ian, also, whether you would agree to sacrifice yourself or not, I think saying it's just a piece of paper is really reductionist.

01:11:43.000 It's so much more than the sum of its parts, as I would say.

01:11:46.000 And also, it really represents something.

01:11:49.000 So, for example, if you have a signed photograph, or you have a family heirloom from a loved one who has passed away, it takes on a meaning beyond the literal object itself.

01:12:01.000 That's of course true of the Constitution as well.

01:12:04.000 That's idolization.

01:12:05.000 I don't think so.

01:12:06.000 No, you can recognize the context of something and see its value based on that without idolizing it. 0.98

01:12:13.000 I would smash these to bits, dude. 0.98

01:12:15.000 I don't care. 1.00

01:12:15.000 Sure. 1.00

01:12:16.000 But I think that one of the problems with idolizing and idol worship at its root is that you're putting something in a category where it doesn't belong.

01:12:24.000 And I don't think the Constitution merely belongs in the category of piece of paper.

01:12:28.000 It's obviously a lot more than that.

01:12:30.000 I kind of see it like burning a flag.

01:12:31.000 Like it's just a symbol.

01:12:33.000 The data is important.

01:12:34.000 We need to preserve the data.

01:12:35.000 But the Constitution itself is more like a document of a cloth.

01:12:38.000 So you're standing in front of the amalgam of U.S.

01:12:42.000 history, the last remaining copies of all the... I'll die for it, man.

01:12:46.000 If this is my life to preserve this state, yeah.

01:12:49.000 So this is probably a better way to explain it.

01:12:52.000 The left wants year zero, right?

01:12:54.000 Pol Pot. 0.89

01:12:54.000 He wanted to purge all, you know, culture. 0.89

01:12:57.000 Mao, Great Leap Forward, all that stuff, Cultural Revolution. 0.56

01:13:00.000 They wanted to purge all the traditional stuff.

01:13:02.000 This is indicative of communists as opposed to the fascists who are very traditionalist.

01:13:06.000 So you have a faction in this country that is lying about history.

01:13:11.000 1619 Project is fabricated.

01:13:13.000 It makes no sense.

01:13:14.000 They say this country was created as a slavocracy.

01:13:16.000 That's an overt lie.

01:13:17.000 It's an outright lie.

01:13:18.000 It's just not true.

01:13:19.000 And they say the purpose of this country was that white people could have slaves.

01:13:21.000 It's literally not true.

01:13:22.000 It's not true.

01:13:23.000 So you have actual history, and there's probably a lot of problems with history.

01:13:27.000 Let's be real because it's written by, you know, it's written by the victors.

01:13:30.000 His story.

01:13:30.000 But let's, but you would die to preserve the truth.

01:13:37.000 Yeah, man.

01:13:38.000 They would kill to destroy the truth.

01:13:39.000 I know.

01:13:40.000 So what do you do when you are tasked with preserving the truth and they are tasked with destroying it?

01:13:46.000 I'd be as subtle as I can until the very moment.

01:13:48.000 And then they're like, okay, now it's your chance to have the power.

01:13:51.000 And then when they're like, now give me the power back, Ian, I give them the power back.

01:13:55.000 It's the unstoppable force and the immovable object.

01:13:58.000 So this is how war happens.

01:13:59.000 It doesn't matter if you think they're evil or not.

01:14:01.000 What matters is there are a lot of regular people who don't pay attention, who only watch CNN, who have no idea what you know, and when they see the truckers, they're told they're fascist, far-right, white supremacists, and they say, okay.

01:14:14.000 And then they go and vote for politicians who weaponize law enforcement to crush political opponents.

01:14:19.000 And then you have whatever this weird group of people we are, which is post-liberal, libertarian, conservative, and we're like, the truth is what matters most.

01:14:28.000 I think about it almost every day.

01:14:29.000 How do you navigate in a system where it's basically built with people that will kill, sociopaths that will kill to preserve power?

01:14:36.000 And snub out that version of history they don't want to be told, but to be an honest truth teller.

01:14:41.000 How do you do that in this world?

01:14:42.000 You've got to make people laugh.

01:14:43.000 You've got to make sure everybody has fun while you're doing it.

01:14:45.000 And maybe you can make the villainous authoritarians realize, hey, life's pretty cool.

01:14:50.000 And it's okay if it's not the way you want it to be.

01:14:53.000 Beating him in elections a few times in a row would help.

01:14:55.000 I don't know.

01:14:56.000 Political parties do change as a result of that.

01:14:58.000 My long-term thesis about what does victory look like in the medium term is something like what the conservatives in England did to the Labour Party in the 80s when Margaret Thatcher just beat Labour badly like three times in a row.

01:15:12.000 And labor went from being like a pretty hardcore socialist movement to like the neoliberal Tony Blair party because they wanted to win.

01:15:20.000 And so I think you know the world where a world where like Republicans win like three or four elections in a row convincingly.

01:15:28.000 And I think that's quite possible in a world where the left keeps doing this stuff.

01:15:32.000 Absolutely.

01:15:32.000 The left has found itself, I mean, they're moving towards censorship, they're moving towards this stuff because they're losing traction.

01:15:38.000 The generic ballot poll was something like, for the first time, it's like plus four for Republicans.

01:15:42.000 It hasn't been plus for Republicans in two decades or something.

01:15:45.000 And Gallup found a party affiliation for the first time in like 30 years is now pro-Republican.

01:15:50.000 Right.

01:15:50.000 So this is all very doomsday, to be humbly honest.

01:15:55.000 However, If in November, Republicans get a commanding sweep, and then immediately put a stop to what the Democrats are doing, and shut it all down, then I would actually say, I think, you know, the temperature's lowering, the boil is reducing, and then it depends on how Democrats respond to it.

01:16:17.000 Because you still have the executive branch, you still have Joe Biden.

01:16:20.000 Then we'll see what happens when Donald Trump—he's running.

01:16:24.000 It's no question about it.

01:16:25.000 He's effectively said he's running, and all of his former staff—well, many of his former staff have publicly stated he's running, even to us.

01:16:32.000 Then when he runs, we'll see what happens.

01:16:35.000 Because you look at what happened on January 20, 2017, with the rioting in D.C., the insurrection, You take a look at what happened in... When was it when the far left was trying to jump the fence, the White House, and set fire to the church?

01:16:47.000 They literally broke the barrier of the White House in the summer of 2020.

01:16:51.000 And they set fire to a guard post.

01:16:53.000 They set fire to a church.

01:16:55.000 50 agents were injured.

01:16:56.000 It was 2020?

01:16:56.000 Wow.

01:16:57.000 Yes, that was in 2020.

01:16:58.000 Summer time, I think.

01:16:59.000 So what do you think happens if we get in November a Republican sweep of Congress, and then they start passing bills and laws?

01:17:08.000 The left, who's already completely insane, are going to reignite the whole BLM wave of rioting. 0.73

01:17:15.000 All that insanity is going to be right there.

01:17:16.000 Yeah, this is the burning of the St.

01:17:17.000 John's Church is what you're guessing.

01:17:18.000 That's a D.C.

01:17:19.000 It's June 2nd, 2020.

01:17:21.000 So what happens then in 2024, when it's like September and Donald Trump is winning at all the polls, do you think they'll learn their lesson and Antifa will come out and be like, we're so sorry, we did this to you guys, please don't vote for them?

01:17:34.000 Or do you think they're going to be like, fascists have won, it's time to revolt?

01:17:37.000 Well, yeah.

01:17:37.000 So first of all, obviously, I know you're being a little facetious there, but they will never apologize for anything.

01:17:43.000 They'll just move on to the next racket and they'll start pointing the finger at Republicans.

01:17:48.000 Look at all these horrible things they've done.

01:17:49.000 Look at the human rights abuses Trump wants to implement.

01:17:51.000 I think people are going to be smarter than to look where the people who were burning the country down are pointing.

01:17:58.000 I can't imagine that people would support another year of rioting and burning buildings.

01:18:03.000 We've discussed this before and we've compared the way the left behaves to a child throwing a temper tantrum and it really can go in one of two directions when they keep throwing the tantrum and it doesn't work.

01:18:14.000 They can either double down and keep doing it or they can grow up and learn how to behave productively.

01:18:21.000 I'm not sure which direction they're going to take.

01:18:23.000 It's going to be very dependent on the particular left-wing individual.

01:18:26.000 We need law to shape culture.

01:18:28.000 I think one good thing that would come out of a law that sort of banned social media censorship and deplatforming is it would just take the teeth out of all this dumb activism that seems to juice the most authoritarian impulses of the left.

01:18:41.000 Social media is problematic.

01:18:43.000 If you could just get them like, if this Joe Rogan stuff would be like Spotify would put out, instead of that simping like ridiculous statement that the Spotify CEO put out about how sorry he was, if he just put out a statement that was like, federal law prohibits us from doing anything like what you guys suggest, so Joe Rogan staying on the platform, you know, take a hike.

01:19:02.000 And if that were the, I mean, you know, take that across like YouTube, Twitter, whatever, if all those companies just realize if we do what the leftists want, we'll be in violation of federal law.

01:19:09.000 Yeah.

01:19:10.000 You know, like, so that would, I mean, it would do a lot to decrease the temperature.

01:19:15.000 Well, and I agree with you.

01:19:16.000 I think that that would decrease the temperature a lot.

01:19:18.000 One thing I said on the show the other day is that I've known a lot of left-wing people and I've seen how they behave in groups and I've also seen how they're willing to behave one-on-one with me when they have conversations and they are far more left-leaning when they are around other left-wing people.

01:19:33.000 What I like to say is you're honestly not a leftist until there's two of you.

01:19:37.000 When you're alone having a conversation with someone who has a different political perspective than you, you're much more open and willing to hear, but as soon as they get around someone who is left-leaning, they feel the need to signal that they're the more left-leaning person.

01:19:48.000 That strikes me as someone with a weak mind that just adapts to whoever they're around.

01:19:51.000 That's what it is.

01:19:53.000 I want to explain why I think a Republican election is more likely to result in violence and escalation than de-escalation.

01:19:59.000 You were mentioning beating them a few times in a row might be good, but you take a look at the punch-a-Nazi thing that happened. 0.67

01:20:04.000 When the left engages in violence, the media celebrates and cheers for it.

01:20:08.000 When the left tore down the security barrier at the White House and then set fire to a guard post and a church, and Trump was forced into a bunker, they made fun of him, mocked him, and called him Bunker Boy, and cheered for it.

01:20:18.000 When BLM burnt down buildings causing $2 billion in insurance damage, and that's the minimum, that's the max payout, so that's not even, I shouldn't say the minimum, that's not even all the damages, And they said, your insurance will cover it.

01:20:31.000 When David Dorn was shot in the chest and killed over a TV.

01:20:34.000 They didn't talk about it, they didn't care.

01:20:35.000 When they commit acts of violence, it's powerful resistance against evil and fascism.

01:20:42.000 So if Republicans end up winning, it justifies everything they've said.

01:20:46.000 Maybe, but I mean, it depends if we get a little bit more of a competent administration.

01:20:50.000 I don't know that we will because, I mean, I'm not, you know, impressed.

01:20:53.000 I mean, Trump's big weakness is his ability to make the rest of the executive branch do what he wants or do, you know, he's just not good at it, right?

01:21:01.000 He's not good at influencing, but I don't know.

01:21:03.000 You get a DeSantis type in there.

01:21:07.000 What happens in a world where DOJ actually meaningfully enforces the law and starts imposing serious penalties on these people?

01:21:13.000 The reason this stuff happens, in my judgment, a big chunk of it, it's not substantially deterred.

01:21:19.000 They're just not prosecuted.

01:21:20.000 But that's my point.

01:21:24.000 You saw Jason Charter, right?

01:21:25.000 That kid who punched... Do you remember that time Jack got punched or pushed around at that Lincoln rally or whatever?

01:21:31.000 That kid got...

01:21:34.000 So if Trump ends up getting elected in 2024 and we make it through the next several years without substantial violence and escalation, and then he purges the executive branch and the Department of Justice to replace all these prosecutors and these federal prosecutors across the country who didn't prosecute any of this, Maybe then we'd see some meaningful change, but what you're basically saying is he needs to purge the entirety of the other political faction.

01:22:04.000 I don't know that he needs to purge the entirety of the other political faction out of DOJ, but he definitely needs to purge the top ranks.

01:22:11.000 And there needs to be much more... I mean, another big problem is that DOJ was just swallowed up in an endless scandal, right?

01:22:18.000 I mean, the Mueller Report and the Russia nonsense.

01:22:21.000 Most of Trump's first term was just swallowed by distraction rather than governance.

01:22:26.000 When the Democrats are in power, when the progressive left in the establishment have power, they use it to justify a mandate from the people to do all of these things.

01:22:36.000 When they're out of power, they claim the fascists are winning and use it to justify their acts of violence and revolt against the system until they get power back.

01:22:46.000 So I just, I look at everything that's been happening and there's that, you know, quote, I think, I can't remember, I keep forgetting the guy's name, where he says, when I am weak, I ask you for freedom because it's according to your principles.

01:22:55.000 When I'm strong, I deny you freedom because it's according to mine.

01:22:58.000 That's from Dune.

01:22:59.000 That's Herbert, Frank Herbert, the author of Dune.

01:23:03.000 So if the Republicans win in November, certainly I think they'll start taking action and trying to pass bills.

01:23:08.000 Biden will probably veto a good majority of them.

01:23:11.000 And the left will argue, see, we were right the whole time.

01:23:14.000 We need Antifa and we need to engage in direct action, they'll call it, to stop the fascists.

01:23:20.000 So I want to acknowledge, like, what I think is happening.

01:23:22.000 Cultural revolution, Mao.

01:23:24.000 You talk about a culture war.

01:23:26.000 I think that what happened is this communist mentality bled into our country sometime 20, 30 years ago, maybe through social media.

01:23:32.000 And now a generation of children have been raised with that mindset or a sect of that generation.

01:23:37.000 So that's reality.

01:23:39.000 How do we deal with that?

01:23:40.000 Peacefully.

01:23:43.000 I mean, serious curriculum changes would be one place to do it, right?

01:23:47.000 Like teaching the horrors of communism as like a mandatory thing.

01:23:52.000 And I mean, I think that would have to be done by states, right?

01:23:54.000 It's probably not like a federal initiative to do that, but like, that's what I mean.

01:23:58.000 You're talking about like peaceful change.

01:24:00.000 Oh, radical shift of university.

01:24:01.000 I mean, you know, co-optation or destruction of the existing university system.

01:24:06.000 That would be by the state governments?

01:24:08.000 That I don't know if it's federal or state.

01:24:10.000 You could massively make the loans contingent on certain changes, adding political affiliation.

01:24:16.000 One simple one I've thought of is making political affiliation a protected class for universities

01:24:22.000 and then forcing them to hire X number of conservatives every year.

01:24:25.000 That's really tough because what political affiliations are you willing to then take?

01:24:29.000 Tolerate nazi is really really really tricky, but you know you I mean I think Like you end up kind of getting to a place where if you have the the will to impose that kind of legislation on them you can kind of negotiate and Get what you need, which is like serious large chunks of university staff being conservative.

01:24:47.000 But what is it?

01:24:49.000 How does a university mandate someone being conservative?

01:24:51.000 And what is conservative?

01:24:52.000 And how do you know?

01:24:53.000 I don't know.

01:24:53.000 They've managed to do that with every other aspect of diversity.

01:24:58.000 I'm sure we could figure something out.

01:25:00.000 I don't think they have actually.

01:25:01.000 Well, I mean, gender identity, sexual preference.

01:25:08.000 But a lot of that is fairly nebulous, which is resulting in political conflict and crisis.

01:25:12.000 It might be nebulous, but even if it's vague, it doesn't mean that it's completely ambiguous and unachievable.

01:25:21.000 There's a reason the campuses have gotten so much diverse and why, if you're a white male looking for a professorial position, you're Really SOL at a lot of universities.

01:25:29.000 A Nazi shows up to a university and says they're conservative and want a job, and they say, no, you're a Nazi, and he says, no, I'm not, I'm a conservative, and then files a suit. 0.56

01:25:35.000 What's a judge gonna do?

01:25:36.000 Good question.

01:25:38.000 It's hard to, it would be hard to exclude, like, the edge cases, but, I mean, maybe you drop legislation that excludes, you figure out a way to do it or not.

01:25:46.000 But, I mean, and maybe this is undoable, in which case we just need to cut off all funding to the universities.

01:25:51.000 start our own institutions and essentially force a preference for those new institutions.

01:25:51.000 Yes.

01:25:55.000 I think universities need to be purged, but we have a cultural problem. 0.97

01:25:59.000 And it's amazing, you know, I was watching Star Trek The Next Generation and I was like,

01:26:03.000 boomers did this.

01:26:04.000 Yes.

01:26:05.000 And they did a really great job.

01:26:07.000 But why did they screw up everything else?

01:26:09.000 The universities, for instance, man.

01:26:11.000 You know, it's just, it's polarization.

01:26:15.000 And I don't mean political, I mean in general.

01:26:17.000 You had people in the 70s who went to the universities with a specific goal, and they created a very narrow band of what they were going to do.

01:26:24.000 Some people went into popular media, and it was all very narrow.

01:26:28.000 Universities, I think, are a huge mistake.

01:26:32.000 It just goes to show you that these are basically cult community centers.

01:26:39.000 I saw this post on Reddit where the left was making fun of the right.

01:26:43.000 Someone on the right said, universities are where most bad ideas are born.

01:26:46.000 I was like, PragerU.

01:26:47.000 And then all the comments were like laughing about how smarter they were than them and how universities are where smart people go and things like that.

01:26:53.000 And I'm like, it just goes to show you that These people live in a world where the majority of good ideas and education comes from the institutionalized learning facility where you get turned into a box, whereas I think whatever our faction is recognizes that people come from all different backgrounds, have all different experiences, and you can become educated and learned through many different ways.

01:27:15.000 Maybe you just refuse to subsidize anything that's not STEM.

01:27:18.000 That would be one interesting way of essentially basically saying that universities,

01:27:24.000 no money from the federal government can go towards F-X studies programs.

01:27:29.000 What about the arts?

01:27:30.000 Sorry, not in college, you could do it elsewhere.

01:27:32.000 And the federal government doesn't need to subsidize it through the university system.

01:27:35.000 Maybe you could set up your own independent art scholar.

01:27:37.000 I think one of the funniest posts I saw from a leftist was on one of those anti-work subreddits.

01:27:44.000 And it was a guy on Twitter saying, I think that if a plumber wants to learn about

01:27:50.000 Russian history, they should be able to go to university free of charge and learn all

01:27:54.000 And then they can keep working their job, but still have access to knowledge.

01:27:57.000 Knowledge should be free.

01:27:58.000 And I'm just like, Take a YouTube class.

01:28:00.000 Hit the internet, bro.

01:28:02.000 But someone has to pay for that.

01:28:03.000 Someone has to do the work.

01:28:05.000 The building has to exist.

01:28:06.000 These people, you know, look, man, Also, you can actually just go online.

01:28:10.000 They're trying to solve a problem that already has a very clear and much more straightforward solution.

01:28:13.000 And they were trying to stop that.

01:28:14.000 Like, Phoenix University in the early days had a lot of roadblocks.

01:28:17.000 It was very, very threatening to that industry.

01:28:19.000 They were like, people can't learn online, and then in 2020 they're like, everyone has to take online courses.

01:28:24.000 Why do we need undergraduate humanities departments, actually?

01:28:27.000 Now that I think about it, do we need them as a country?

01:28:30.000 Ethics? 0.76

01:28:31.000 No.

01:28:31.000 Are they net beneficial for the country?

01:28:33.000 First of all, I remember Humanities being like a fun class with a nice teacher.

01:28:37.000 I don't remember what we did or anything.

01:28:38.000 Funny story, when you just said churches, you know what the most dominant major at the turn of the 20th century was?

01:28:44.000 Theology.

01:28:45.000 Wow.

01:28:46.000 And it used to be that that's what like most people, and I realize that like, you know, there's always been a huge demand for, you know, midwits to be able to like go to school to learn to point out blasphemy.

01:28:57.000 Right, that's what they did at the turn of the 20th century in theology class, and that's what they're doing now in these ex-studies classes.

01:29:03.000 So I totally disagree.

01:29:05.000 At the turn of the 20th century, you actually had to be pretty intelligent in order to get into any kind of university setting.

01:29:10.000 That's true, yeah.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, so the way I describe it to people, this is my personal hypotheses on our cultural developments over the past several decades.

01:29:18.000 I was told over and over again in school by my family that the children of the greatest generation had a high school education and were able to raise a family of five.

01:29:31.000 Just that alone.

01:29:33.000 They had a bunch of kids.

01:29:34.000 These are the boomers. 0.98

01:29:36.000 The boomers grow up and what do they see?

01:29:39.000 Their peers, brothers, sisters, friends, and otherwise, who went to college made more money than they did.

01:29:47.000 And so they instill in their millennial children, you have to go to college.

01:29:52.000 Look, I didn't go, and everybody, my friend went, and he's making six figures, and I never made that much, so you need to go to college.

01:30:00.000 And here's what I realized.

01:30:02.000 If the Greatest Generation was able to raise a family of five off just a high school diploma, they did not tell their Boomer children to go to college. 0.81

01:30:12.000 You didn't need to.

01:30:13.000 You could raise your family on a high school diploma.

01:30:16.000 What this means is, those in the Boomer Generation who went to college did so to pursue a passion.

01:30:22.000 They were driven and they chose, I want to go here and do this thing.

01:30:26.000 Unsurprisingly, people who are passionate and driven to search and explore became good at these tasks, were driven to succeed, and ultimately made more money.

01:30:35.000 Now what we have is, boomer parents told their kids, you have to go to college, that's the path towards money, and it never was.

01:30:42.000 Now we have a massively indebted generation of communists who think the solution is the government bailing them out because they never should have gone in the first place, and passion was always the key.

01:30:52.000 So now you have all, you have this, this is my favorite stat.

01:30:56.000 College dropout billionaires have, on average, three times more money than PhD billionaires.

01:31:02.000 You have all of these stories of high school dropout millionaires and celebrities and entrepreneurs all the time.

01:31:07.000 I mean, some of the most revered entrepreneurs, Steve Jobs, college dropout.

01:31:11.000 I think Bill Gates was a college dropout as well.

01:31:13.000 These are people who pursued a passion and said, college isn't what I need.

01:31:16.000 Peter Thiel, I think, I don't know if he still does, maybe the un-college movement, trying to instill this message in people.

01:31:21.000 But now you have millennials all believing, It's not passion. 0.77

01:31:26.000 It's not drive.

01:31:27.000 It's not inquisitiveness.

01:31:29.000 It's just getting your degree.

01:31:30.000 This is no wonder there's no one in eight billionaires drop out of college.

01:31:35.000 Here's a fun one.

01:31:36.000 I just realized like another thing you could really do to break the power of colleges.

01:31:39.000 You ban federal discrimination on academic, basically academic credentials.

01:31:44.000 Essentially, what that means is you're not allowed to ask people on their resume, and you're not allowed to put what your race is.

01:31:50.000 Well, now you couldn't put your degrees.

01:31:52.000 You can put your other experience, but you can't put your degrees.

01:31:55.000 I wouldn't have went to college if that's the case.

01:31:59.000 I agree, but I think there's a better way to put it.

01:32:02.000 It's that you only can ask about the qualifications for regulated positions.

01:32:08.000 Meaning a doctor, a lawyer, a CPA, or things like that.

01:32:12.000 So the law wouldn't be like, you're not allowed to ask.

01:32:15.000 The law would be, you are only allowed to ask if we've regulated this position, here are the list of jobs that have to be regulated by degree.

01:32:20.000 And you could let people voluntarily put it on their resume if they want to.

01:32:24.000 They could supply the information.

01:32:25.000 But I think you probably have to prohibit it.

01:32:27.000 I think you probably just have to be like, you know, this is...

01:32:29.000 And what you do is, you simply say this, show me your portfolio.

01:32:31.000 What's the job you're being hired for?

01:32:33.000 You know, the way they would if they saw like the race or something like that.

01:32:36.000 They'd be like, we're not even touching this because we don't want to be in the position

01:32:39.000 of discriminating.

01:32:40.000 And what you do is you simply say this, show me your portfolio.

01:32:45.000 What's the job you're being hired for?

01:32:47.000 So you know, it's really funny when you hire a contractor, how do you know they can do

01:32:50.000 it?

01:32:51.000 You look at the reviews on Angie's list or whatever.

01:32:54.000 So why am I going to assume some guy's got a degree?

01:32:56.000 They're going to know how to do whatever it is they're talking about.

01:32:58.000 No, it's all the same.

01:32:59.000 It's all guesswork.

01:33:00.000 Well, a lot of people end up working in a field very differently than the one they majored in.

01:33:05.000 And part of the reason for that is the value that employers tend to find in a degree is it shows you that the person was capable of sticking with something for an extended period of time in order to meet their goal.

01:33:15.000 That's true.

01:33:16.000 And I feel like I have to circle back real quick to what Tim was talking about earlier.

01:33:19.000 He was talking about how boomers looked at the people who went to college, or the people previous to boomers, looked at the people who went to college and said, they succeeded, therefore you should go.

01:33:27.000 I feel like this is one of the cornerstone, tripping stones that's happened to millennials. 0.52

01:33:31.000 I feel like this is one of those reversal of cause and effect that they looked at and they said, this, therefore this, instead of looking at it the other way.

01:33:38.000 And I see a lot of people, just as we're doing this segment on generations, people are saying, I skipped Gen X. No, I didn't.

01:33:44.000 Generations hop.

01:33:46.000 So you have the silent generation, and then I think the silent generation had the Gen Xers, right? 0.89

01:33:51.000 Greatest had Boomers, Boomers had Millennials, Gen Xers had Gen Z. Leapfrogs.

01:33:51.000 Yeah.

01:33:56.000 Leapfrogs, yeah.

01:33:57.000 So Gen Xers, I think, were pretty rad for the most part, but they're just politically weak and they have no idea what's going on. 0.99

01:34:03.000 They didn't have the internet.

01:34:04.000 They were raised without it.

01:34:05.000 Another thing I want to mention that I think is hilarious about people who went to college sort of arrogantly declaring that makes them more intelligent than anyone else is in order to do that, you have to just completely uncritically accept the most baseline way of defining intelligence.

01:34:19.000 Can you repeat information?

01:34:21.000 Can you memorize stuff?

01:34:22.000 And also, you're just assuming that degree equals intelligence.

01:34:22.000 Exactly.

01:34:27.000 That's such an absurd idea. 1.00

01:34:29.000 Right, because you can be a stupid person that repeats information and have no idea how to put those ideas together to form a new idea. 1.00

01:34:36.000 And we have been consistently dumbing higher education down for about 150 years now. 1.00

01:34:41.000 Maybe closer to 100 years.

01:34:46.000 I feel very, very strongly about this because this is a classic case of them looking at something like, for example, self-esteem and saying that kids who had high self-esteem did well in school.

01:34:57.000 That is exactly backwards.

01:34:59.000 Kids who did well in school earned their high self-esteem.

01:35:02.000 The people who went to college because they were passionate about something did well in that field.

01:35:07.000 And whether they dropped out or not, The fact that they went and they decided to pursue a degree or a career and came out ahead of the curve was an exact inversion of the reason we're pushing everyone to go to college.

01:35:18.000 We're telling everyone that they must have high self-esteem in order to succeed.

01:35:21.000 These are exactly backwards.

01:35:22.000 And I think this is part of the reason that millennials are so turned around.

01:35:26.000 It is exactly an inversion of the truth, I think.

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01:36:04.000 We got this from Rilo.

01:36:06.000 He says, honk honk.

01:36:07.000 Let's go Brando.

01:36:09.000 Tim, I appreciate you doing this and putting yourself out there.

01:36:11.000 What you do means truckloads to lots of people.

01:36:13.000 I love it.

01:36:14.000 I really, I appreciate that.

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01:36:19.000 I really appreciate that, and I'm humbled and grateful.

01:36:23.000 All right.

01:36:24.000 Cowboy Shane says, I've already obtained permission from my company, which is one of the largest national carriers in America, to dress my company truck in all the American Freedom Convoy Gucci gear.

01:36:37.000 I have no idea what that is, but it sounds very interesting.

01:36:39.000 Sounds good.

01:36:41.000 Alright, Zeke Schwenke says, Tim, how can you be both pro-choice and anti-death penalty?

01:36:46.000 Only one of those always results in an innocent death.

01:36:49.000 Love your work, just been wanting to ask you this for a while.

01:36:52.000 It is a greatly complicated question, and it's actually relatively simple.

01:36:57.000 The issue of abortion is a language issue.

01:37:00.000 When I'm talking about choice, I'm not talking about women literally just deciding to abort a completely healthy and viable baby for literally no reason.

01:37:07.000 I think that's wrong.

01:37:08.000 However, I think there's a governmental... there's a problem I have with the idea that You have a woman, let's say she has a health issue. 1.00

01:37:16.000 I don't like the idea that the government intervenes and says, tell us about those health issues before you can get approval for a procedure from your doctor.

01:37:22.000 The same way I feel about vaccine mandates.

01:37:25.000 The issue is if, uh, you know, you have a private medical decision that's between you and you're like, you should be, you should be forced to go around and tell people this.

01:37:32.000 Admittedly, it's an extremely difficult position to, to, to, uh, it's an extremely difficult moral position because it's, it's involving two different lives and the rights of two individuals who are, who are joined.

01:37:44.000 And I don't think I have the answers for how you solve legal questions and the rights of individuals when there are two people in one body.

01:37:52.000 That's inherently difficult.

01:37:53.000 As for the death penalty, it's an entirely different circumstance.

01:37:57.000 If Kamala Harris walked up to you and said, this guy over here should die, trust me. 1.00

01:38:02.000 I'd be like, no, you're an evil person. 1.00

01:38:05.000 There's literally no one in government who can come up to me and say, just trust me, we should kill that guy. 1.00

01:38:09.000 I'd be like, no. 0.65

01:38:11.000 If you've subdued the person, they're locked in a box, I don't trust you.

01:38:15.000 I just don't do it.

01:38:17.000 If I witnessed a criminal committing an extremely egregious act against somebody, I would act in defense of others, using force necessary to stop them from doing it.

01:38:25.000 And that could result in a loss of life.

01:38:27.000 It's unfortunate, I don't want people to die.

01:38:29.000 But they're not the same things, and I think they're totally different arguments.

01:38:34.000 I mean, I would say the only way in which they're different is that every time someone dies as a result of abortion, we're guaranteed that they were innocent.

01:38:34.000 I disagree.

01:38:43.000 My question to you, because you're sort of bringing up the complexity here, so I guess my question to you would be, what was wrong with the laws that existed prior to Roe v. Wade when abortion actually was illegal entirely in some states?

01:38:54.000 What laws specifically?

01:38:56.000 I know that the country was capable of having abortion laws which entirely prohibited it because that was the case prior to Roe v. Wade in many states.

01:39:04.000 And so I think you're arguing it's too complicated.

01:39:06.000 This is what I mean by a language discussion.

01:39:07.000 You're talking about something different.

01:39:08.000 Right?

01:39:09.000 So we've had this conversation before where your view of abortion is the arbitrary killing of an unborn baby.

01:39:14.000 Yeah.

01:39:14.000 I'm not talking about that.

01:39:16.000 So you believe that should be illegal?

01:39:20.000 I don't know about... The problem I have with drawing a line at making I think it's wrong, and I think people shouldn't do it.

01:39:29.000 But the question about illegality is government intervention to monitor this to make sure it wasn't or was, is the difficult position.

01:39:35.000 So you're saying, like, an investigation after the fact?

01:39:38.000 Or before.

01:39:39.000 Like, how would this work?

01:39:40.000 Like, a woman, let's say she's got, like, cysts or something, and the doctor says, you're both gonna die.

01:39:46.000 We need to act quick.

01:39:47.000 She'll be like, well, let me file my requisition forms with the government, make sure we can get a proper approval on this before we move forward with this procedure.

01:39:54.000 The issue is that I recognize life begins at conception.

01:39:57.000 Anyone who says otherwise is lying for political reasons and they have no argument.

01:40:01.000 Vosh was asked about this on the show and he said, he was asked by Charlie Kirk, when does life begin?

01:40:05.000 He goes, I don't know, birth?

01:40:07.000 Or what did he say, like six months or something?

01:40:10.000 I'm just like, dude, come on, man.

01:40:12.000 There's no argument there.

01:40:13.000 But there is a challenging discussion around I'm not.

01:40:17.000 The left uses pro-choice often.

01:40:20.000 It used to mean safe, legal, and rare.

01:40:22.000 And it used to reference specifically the health of the mother and whether or not women have the right to go to a doctor and make the decision amongst themselves without government intervention.

01:40:31.000 Pro-choice today means pro-abortion. 0.55

01:40:33.000 So I'm actually opposed to abortion.

01:40:35.000 I think it's wrong.

01:40:36.000 But We shouldn't conflate abortion, which, you know, the term meaning women saying, I want to kill this baby, with the doctor saying, we think there's a very strong possibility that you will die, the baby will die, and also the alternative, and that's something I've said for a while, I don't know if I can tolerate the government saying, you must, you are obligated to provide your body to another person.

01:41:00.000 Yeah, sure.

01:41:00.000 So I would say that when it comes to medically necessitated abortion, I mean, you have the Dublin Declaration and also you don't even necessarily need the Dublin Declaration.

01:41:10.000 There's a lot of doctors who will tell you this, that actually going in and performing an abortion never a medical necessity. Sometimes there are instances

01:41:18.000 where you might need to perform an operation on a woman who is pregnant that can 0.99

01:41:22.000 result in the death of the unborn child but those are not abortions because

01:41:27.000 your goal is not to kill the child your goal is to perform a different

01:41:30.000 operation that could result in the child being hurt so that is different from an abortion

01:41:34.000 and the law would factor that in. I think they're involuntary abortions 1.00

01:41:37.000 at that point.

01:41:38.000 Well I want we got to read more.

01:41:39.000 A miscarriage, yeah, yes.

01:41:40.000 But I think we'll end up talking back and forth, you know what I mean?

01:41:46.000 Could be a good discussion on an after show or another time.

01:41:48.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:41:49.000 Absolutely.

01:41:49.000 Let's read some more.

01:41:50.000 We got Dustin Jones says, Hey Tim, did you see the Daily Mail article titled, Biden admin to fund programs that hand out crack pipes to promote racial equity?

01:41:58.000 Yes, that's true.

01:42:00.000 And I was browsing Reddit, as I often do, and there was a leftist subreddit mocking Charlie Kirk, because Charlie Kirk said something like, the Biden administration is going to be giving out free crack pipes, but they can't deal with, you know, this, that, or otherwise, these other problems.

01:42:13.000 And the response from the left was, he's lost his mind.

01:42:15.000 What is he even talking about? 1.00

01:42:17.000 And I'm just like, these people are so stupid. 1.00

01:42:21.000 They think they're smarter than Charlie, and Charlie said stupid things, like nobody's perfect, but he's talking about a legitimate news story. 1.00

01:42:29.000 They just don't read the news. 1.00

01:42:30.000 They just sit there twiddling their thumbs, laughing about how smart they are.

01:42:33.000 Yikes, man.

01:42:34.000 Well, they went to college, Tim.

01:42:35.000 Yeah, they sure did.

01:42:36.000 They sure did.

01:42:37.000 By the way, shoutout to all you Gen Xers out there.

01:42:38.000 That means they're so smart.

01:42:40.000 There's a bunch of Gen Xers in chat.

01:42:42.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:42:44.000 From some overpriced private school in the middle of nowhere.

01:42:49.000 You went hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt, or tens of thousands of dollars into debt, because your parents told you to, and you're the smart one.

01:42:55.000 That's right.

01:42:56.000 Orville Redenpiller says, anti-truck discrimination.

01:42:59.000 That's a great name.

01:43:00.000 You can't say trucker, that's our word.

01:43:04.000 It's not okay to say trucker in any context.

01:43:06.000 Good to know.

01:43:06.000 It's a verb.

01:43:08.000 Wait, no it's not.

01:43:09.000 Brandon Tums says, Tim, regarding your 4pm video, how do you feel about the government interfering in hostage situations?

01:43:15.000 You mention them a lot.

01:43:17.000 Aren't hostage takers entitled to privacy from the government like pregnant women? 1.00

01:43:21.000 I don't know if that makes any sense.

01:43:22.000 That analogy is insane.

01:43:26.000 Like that's just no no there's there's obviously a a the the question is you know the the prior question is is there like a wrong a criminal wrong being committed right like and so like if you there's obviously a criminal wrong being committed in the world of a hostage taking that's kidnapping right and that there is a fundamental debate In the abortion debate about whether that is a crime or should be a crime, that's the difference between those two things.

01:43:55.000 That's not resolved.

01:43:57.000 I think he's asking more philosophically than legally, though, because in some sense, and I agree, there's a huge problem here when you discuss abortion, which is everyone sort of brings up analogies, and I don't think any of the analogies work very well.

01:44:09.000 A mother-child relationship is a very specific thing.

01:44:13.000 Some people will describe it as you sort of have a built-in hostage situation.

01:44:18.000 I've heard that verbiage before.

01:44:19.000 I certainly don't prefer it, but I think what he's getting at is the philosophy of the fact that even in situations where one person does have full control over another's life, we're still willing to say the government should step in.

01:44:29.000 I think that's more or less what they're trying to communicate.

01:44:31.000 So I don't want to go too long because I do want to read more, but let's make a couple points.

01:44:36.000 How do you feel about the exceptions for rape and incest and abortion?

01:44:39.000 No, I don't believe that there are any exceptions.

01:44:41.000 I believe that the value of human life is not contingent on how they were conceived.

01:44:45.000 I completely agree, and that's one that always confused me about conservatives who are like, okay, we agree.

01:44:50.000 However, the issue of rape is important because I understand the argument that a woman who gets pregnant, in most cases, made the conscious decision to engage in human reproductive acts, which result in a pregnancy, and they now have to assume responsibility for carrying a life. 0.63

01:45:04.000 That's just how biology works.

01:45:05.000 But then you come to the question of a woman who was forced into carrying another life.

01:45:09.000 And that's where I think the government doesn't have a right to say, no, no, no, now you are obligated to provide your blood and body to another person because someone forced it upon you.

01:45:17.000 You can't violate someone's rights.

01:45:19.000 Forced impregnation, like what the Uyghurs, what they're going through.

01:45:21.000 Do you not support them being able to abort those forced impregnations?

01:45:24.000 Well, so I believe that rape is an unbelievably horrific crime.

01:45:29.000 I also believe that abortion is an unbelievably horrific crime.

01:45:32.000 And I don't believe it simply harms unborn children.

01:45:35.000 I really believe it harms the women as well. 0.59

01:45:37.000 So I would say that a woman has undergone something traumatic and horrible.

01:45:41.000 The solution to that is not to put her through something else that is also traumatic and horrible and kill the child.

01:45:45.000 Well, I think your morality is irrelevant to the individual who's making the choice on what their body is to be Well, but then I could say I can use my body to kill anyone, and your morality is not relevant to what decision I make.

01:45:58.000 That's not it.

01:45:59.000 Analogies don't work. 0.98

01:46:00.000 Like you said, you can't have someone latching themselves onto your blood, or you can't have someone hooking you up to their bloodstream because their kidneys don't work, and then you being told by the government you can't unhook them.

01:46:12.000 But that's not my child.

01:46:14.000 But that's not, that's not, we're talking about two individuals who have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

01:46:19.000 And if a woman was forced by someone else whose rights were violated to carry a life she didn't want to carry, I don't think the state has a right to come in and say, I don't care what you want to do with your body.

01:46:29.000 You were forced into this position and now we're going to make sure you stay in that position.

01:46:32.000 I think that's wrong.

01:46:33.000 Right.

01:46:33.000 There's a basic like problem with like, I, I, my problem with this position is that it, it treats the woman as an instrument of the rapist and forces the government to continue to act.

01:46:43.000 No, I don't think it's seeing her as an instrument of a rapist.

01:46:49.000 I think it's seeing her as a mother and saying that mothers can't kill their children.

01:46:53.000 So people bring up analogies about different kinds of relationships, but like I said, ultimately the mother-child relationship is a very different thing.

01:47:00.000 What if she says, I did not choose this and I don't want it?

01:47:03.000 I think there are a lot of really difficult things people go through in life that they don't choose, but that doesn't give them the right to harm other people.

01:47:09.000 What if the baby's born and it's got a kidney defect and it's going to die?

01:47:15.000 I don't want to get into a whole or two things.

01:47:16.000 I only want to ask a couple questions, because otherwise we'll go for 20 years.

01:47:19.000 But I think the point has been made.

01:47:21.000 We disagree.

01:47:22.000 Yeah, we disagree.

01:47:23.000 Let's read some more.

01:47:24.000 Mystic says, Tim, please help us be brave and do something about mask mandates in our kids' schools.

01:47:30.000 Shout out to our site.

01:47:32.000 Open letter to, what does it say?

01:47:34.000 Open letter to ArchbishopLaurie.com.

01:47:38.000 It's hard to read when there's names, you know, and it's all no spaces.

01:47:42.000 Logan Culver says, Ian is right.

01:47:44.000 End the MF in Fed.

01:47:45.000 What do you have to say to that, Will?

01:47:47.000 I guess I didn't win that thing.

01:47:50.000 It's not so simple as that.

01:47:51.000 I tried so hard.

01:47:52.000 You failed to convince Will.

01:47:53.000 End the Fed's a fun catchphrase that Ron Paul made popular.

01:47:55.000 I'm sorry I didn't convince you, Logan.

01:47:58.000 We need to create something new if we're going to undo the old thing.

01:48:00.000 Don't just tear it down.

01:48:01.000 You need to create something new that's better, and then we can transition.

01:48:04.000 Please, think hard about the gold standard, guys.

01:48:06.000 It really has been tried and found wanting.

01:48:08.000 I think this is definitely a good point.

01:48:10.000 I've talked about a lot, you know.

01:48:12.000 Ron Paul talking about the gold standard and I often said, like, it's an archaic system.

01:48:16.000 It doesn't mean it's perfect.

01:48:17.000 Let's read some more.

01:48:18.000 I don't want to go back to the gold system.

01:48:19.000 Logan Culver is a cool name.

01:48:20.000 I'd be remiss not to point that out.

01:48:21.000 Culver's has good burgers.

01:48:23.000 Christopher Chapman says, Will of the People changed my life, made me cry.

01:48:26.000 Where is the line between fighting an evil power and the continuous cycle of power corrupting?

01:48:31.000 This is a reference to my music video, Will of the People.

01:48:33.000 You should check it out.

01:48:34.000 We're working on the sequel to it.

01:48:36.000 It's a sidequel, not necessarily a sequel.

01:48:38.000 It's called Pain.

01:48:39.000 And we got Pete Parada, formerly of The Offspring, laying on the drum tracks for us, and it sounds amazing.

01:48:45.000 What do you think of that?

01:48:46.000 If you use violence to take down a violent regime, how does that wheel stop turning?

01:48:50.000 How do you stop that wheel from turning?

01:48:51.000 Where do you draw the line with using violence to overturn a violent regime?

01:48:56.000 What's that guy's answer, I guess?

01:48:58.000 Oh, I don't know if it is possible.

01:49:01.000 You know, I think technology, for one thing.

01:49:03.000 I don't know if it is possible.

01:49:05.000 Like, you look at what's going on right now when you say you don't want to do the left-right thing, and I'm like, dude, these people have tried to kill us twice.

01:49:13.000 And I know some people might say it's a little hyperbolic, but swatting is an attempt to end your life.

01:49:17.000 The second time, the swatting was... I don't want to give away too many details for security reasons, but the second swatting was in many ways worse than the first.

01:49:25.000 They were different, but in many ways worse. 0.81

01:49:27.000 And the goal is to try and get us killed.

01:49:29.000 So the second time, it seemed like they were REALLY trying to get us killed.

01:49:33.000 It's like, what do you do when they're trying to get you killed, man?

01:49:33.000 Yeah.

01:49:36.000 You know, just be like, well, I don't want to play that game.

01:49:36.000 Yeah.

01:49:38.000 Abraham Lincoln was like, well, if it's going to happen, it's going to happen.

01:49:40.000 He just kept going about his day.

01:49:41.000 And then he had a dream that he was dead.

01:49:43.000 Yeah.

01:49:43.000 You ever hear that story where he had a dream and there was like, everyone was crying in the white house.

01:49:46.000 He was like, what's happened?

01:49:46.000 What's happened in his dream?

01:49:47.000 They're like, the president is dead.

01:49:48.000 He's like, what?

01:49:49.000 And then the next day, I think he got shot or something within like a couple of days.

01:49:52.000 Yeah.

01:49:53.000 That's one way to go about it. 0.98

01:49:53.000 Crazy, man. 0.98

01:49:54.000 The other way is you could hide in a bunker like Justin Trudeau. 0.99

01:49:56.000 There's so many ways to go.

01:49:57.000 All right, let's read some more.

01:49:58.000 We got Andrew Gelling.

01:49:59.000 He says, Ian, yo dawg, I heard you like currency, so we put your currency on some currency so you can spend while you spend.

01:50:05.000 Oh, good!

01:50:06.000 Good, good.

01:50:07.000 Great line.

01:50:08.000 Mason says, in the Dark Ages to the Late Middle Ages, cities and counties would mint their own coins and freely trade with those coins, which were based on the purity of the silver and gold used to make the coin.

01:50:20.000 But that's still a single currency used internationally, if gold and silver is the standard, which is, I think, the point you were making, right?

01:50:26.000 Like, the euro is a single currency, like gold and silver would be.

01:50:30.000 Yeah, people would start doping their currency back then and, like, silver plating their copper and then using that.

01:50:35.000 Yeah, people would shave the edges off of the coins to collect a little bit more.

01:50:38.000 That's why you have ridges at the ends of coins now, so you know that someone didn't just shave into it.

01:50:44.000 So if you could just shave a little bit off of the outside of every single coin that's made of precious metal, eventually you're gonna have a lot of money.

01:50:52.000 Now we have pieces of paper.

01:50:53.000 I think there's some cloth.

01:50:54.000 Well, now they're mostly plastic.

01:50:55.000 Cotton.

01:50:55.000 Fabric, right?

01:50:56.000 Yeah, I think it's cotton.

01:50:56.000 Oh, is it?

01:50:57.000 Maybe it's different now.

01:50:58.000 Like, in Canada, it's all plastic money.

01:51:00.000 Honestly, a lot of it's just digital now.

01:51:02.000 Yeah, like, overwhelming.

01:51:03.000 Like, 99% of it is digital.

01:51:07.000 All right.

01:51:07.000 GBP says a lot of the truckers are from Alberta.

01:51:10.000 Kenny is conservative, but I think he's trying to deflate the convoy and get them home.

01:51:14.000 Well, yes, comply with their demands and they'll go home.

01:51:17.000 It's that simple.

01:51:17.000 It's like, we're going to get rid of the mandate.

01:51:19.000 It's like, all right, we're out.

01:51:20.000 Yeah.

01:51:21.000 That's the benefit of having a discreet ask.

01:51:21.000 There you go.

01:51:23.000 What if they get rid of the mandate, they leave, and then they do the mandate again?

01:51:27.000 They come back.

01:51:27.000 They just come back, but then they'll be ready for it.

01:51:29.000 You know what I wonder about these political leaders?

01:51:30.000 Did they forget that they live in a society where they have to do things for other people?

01:51:34.000 Because this is what we were constantly told about the vaccine.

01:51:37.000 Did they forget that they have to consider other people's interests sometimes?

01:51:41.000 Unbelievable.

01:51:41.000 Just comply, you guys.

01:51:43.000 All right, NoobTube says, heavy-duty tow truck driver here.

01:51:46.000 Tim, you are right about the logistics.

01:51:48.000 Everything is towable with some work, but to tow an unwilling semi, it would take 60 to 90 minutes once you are hooked.

01:51:55.000 Just to make it move.

01:51:59.000 Every bit of this is so perfect.

01:52:02.000 I love it.

01:52:03.000 They have no power.

01:52:06.000 I love seeing truckers just like sitting there, just like regular working dudes being like, you have no power here.

01:52:12.000 Like, look at me.

01:52:13.000 I am the captain.

01:52:15.000 It's literally like Bugs Bunny messing with the villain.

01:52:18.000 They're just kind of, they're doing their thing and these people are losing their minds.

01:52:22.000 That's amazing, dude.

01:52:24.000 Regal says, or Regil says, Ian is right about Optimus Prime being in Canada right now.

01:52:28.000 His motto is, freedom is the right of all sentient beings.

01:52:32.000 Autobot.

01:52:32.000 Love it.

01:52:33.000 Indeed.

01:52:34.000 Poofy says, Optimus Prime hashtag blood feud, let's go!

01:52:38.000 Optimus, dude.

01:52:38.000 He's a good dude, man.

01:52:39.000 Hashtag Optimus, yeah.

01:52:40.000 Orson Welles, didn't he do that?

01:52:41.000 He did the voice for the movie.

01:52:44.000 For the original Transformers movie.

01:52:45.000 Who did?

01:52:45.000 Orson Welles did Optimus.

01:52:47.000 Really?

01:52:48.000 What?

01:52:48.000 I'll double check it, but I'm 100% sure.

01:52:49.000 When?

01:52:49.000 In the 80s?

01:52:50.000 Yeah, the 80s.

01:52:53.000 Smedley Butler III says Ian's right.

01:52:55.000 A select group of banking families secretly meeting with a select group of senators on Jekyll Island to own and be the printing machine for the world is the exact definition of fascism.

01:53:04.000 It's not the exact, but it's pretty close.

01:53:07.000 Looks like in the first Transformers movie we had Orson Welles, Robert Stack, Leonard Nimoy.

01:53:11.000 What a star cast.

01:53:12.000 That is pretty star studded.

01:53:13.000 Cubicle says, this has to be the worst Magic the Gathering channel I've ever seen.

01:53:17.000 You haven't mentioned Kamigawa dropping this weekend.

01:53:20.000 Will you and Ian be attending pre-release?

01:53:22.000 Are they gonna have quadlands?

01:53:24.000 Are they doing quadlands?

01:53:25.000 I'm just making fun of the game.

01:53:26.000 The power creep's insane.

01:53:27.000 Yeah, but there's already Sept-lands that's up for anything.

01:53:31.000 Sept-lands?

01:53:32.000 Yeah.

01:53:32.000 Mana Confluence.

01:53:33.000 I don't know, whatever.

01:53:35.000 We should play Magic.

01:53:36.000 Yeah, you know Will Plays.

01:53:37.000 I used to.

01:53:38.000 What colors?

01:53:39.000 I mean, I don't know colors.

01:53:40.000 What are your main combos?

01:53:42.000 I mean, I haven't played in 20 years, right?

01:53:44.000 He was playing Urza's block.

01:53:46.000 Urza's Saga.

01:53:47.000 So, I guess, what did I play?

01:53:49.000 I played Draugr with Disc and those counter spells.

01:53:53.000 Oh, blue.

01:53:54.000 Yeah, Monoblue counter deck.

01:53:57.000 At that point I was in fourth grade and I could only afford cheap stacks.

01:54:00.000 Did you get boomerangs in there?

01:54:02.000 I think there were boomerangs.

01:54:03.000 Pretty unstoppable.

01:54:04.000 And then like maybe there was some... I forget what it was.

01:54:06.000 What is the black green deck that was really popular back then?

01:54:08.000 I don't know, man.

01:54:09.000 It was... Black green?

01:54:10.000 It was like a weird... I don't know.

01:54:12.000 It wasn't a Necro deck.

01:54:13.000 It was... Oh, uh... Urza's?

01:54:16.000 I don't know if there was mixed color decks during Urza's.

01:54:18.000 Psychotok?

01:54:18.000 It had like Psychotok?

01:54:20.000 I remember watching the the old like nationals and stuff and like the tournaments and they do do like turn one swamp dark ritual Phyroxian Negator and it was just like it's dumb.

01:54:28.000 Oh, negate, yeah, it's like, I remember those cards.

01:54:30.000 21, 5, 5.

01:54:32.000 And if he takes a damage, he loses life.

01:54:34.000 I love how esoteric this is and so many people are confused about what we're talking about.

01:54:36.000 It's happening right now.

01:54:38.000 The dude just really used some magic on us.

01:54:40.000 Let's read some more superchats.

01:54:42.000 We got Seth, he says, No, Tim, the Union soldiers were already in Fort Sumter.

01:54:46.000 The Confederate soldiers surrounded the fort and someone from the Confederate side fired.

01:54:48.000 I did not say otherwise.

01:54:49.000 My point was, the materials, the fort that was there, was controlled by the Union that said, you can't have that, it's ours.

01:54:58.000 And the South said, get out and go home, which would effectively be giving up a powerful and expensive military resource, and the Union soldiers said no.

01:55:05.000 That the same thing would happen.

01:55:07.000 If there was a peaceful divorce in this country, you will have, you know, whichever side controls DC, you'll have federal forces and a military base in say, Florida.

01:55:16.000 And then Florida will be like, time to go guys.

01:55:18.000 And they're going to be like, these nukes belong to us and we're not leaving them.

01:55:20.000 And they're going to be like, yes, you are.

01:55:22.000 And there's no other way it could go down.

01:55:24.000 And what about like Area 51 and all the underground tunnels and stuff that probably cross state lines for all I know?

01:55:29.000 Yeah, and what about the underground cities full of reptilian people?

01:55:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:55:32.000 Where are they gonna go?

01:55:33.000 Who gets those in the custody battle? 0.81

01:55:35.000 And underneath that?

01:55:36.000 I think they choose.

01:55:37.000 They choose?

01:55:38.000 Yeah, they choose.

01:55:38.000 Sentient beings.

01:55:39.000 Well, it's kind of a cool thing to do, but... They're gonna say that 50 miles below the surface is not controlled by the state.

01:55:46.000 Oh, just like the sky.

01:55:47.000 Well, the sky is FAA.

01:55:49.000 How far up?

01:55:50.000 10 miles?

01:55:50.000 How far down does our jurisdiction go here?

01:55:53.000 8 miles?

01:55:54.000 Yeah, the lizard people are gonna be like, you don't have mineral rights. 1.00

01:56:02.000 So I've looked at a lot of land and all the mineral rights are gone.

01:56:05.000 And for obvious reasons, companies will buy up mineral rights, but not the property, so that if they ever want to scan for it or look for something, they own it.

01:56:12.000 If you ever strike or find something, they own it.

01:56:14.000 So it's really annoying when you're trying to buy land.

01:56:17.000 You've got to make sure you're buying the mineral rights as well.

01:56:19.000 Otherwise, a company can come onto your land and start drilling and digging because they have rights underneath.

01:56:25.000 But the secret is, the real reason mineral rights have been bought up is because the lizard people want to make sure nobody digs under their dome. 0.88

01:56:32.000 That makes sense now.

01:56:33.000 Yeah, that proves it.

01:56:35.000 Yeah, the lizard people. 0.87

01:56:36.000 Yeah, it checks out.

01:56:37.000 It's proof.

01:56:42.000 Low standard of proof there.

01:56:43.000 Yep, yep, yep.

01:56:44.000 I don't know about that, Tim.

01:56:45.000 I think he's got a point.

01:56:48.000 Nicholas Graves says, I work for a towing company in Michigan and I tow semi in Metro Detroit.

01:56:52.000 I will refuse to tow any protesters.

01:56:55.000 Show me your honkers.

01:56:56.000 That's the other thing too.

01:56:57.000 It's just, it's amazing that, uh, it's, it's amazing how many of the truckers are just like, we rely on this industry.

01:57:04.000 You know, we're, we're friends with these guys.

01:57:05.000 We're not going to interfere with what they're doing.

01:57:07.000 That'd be, Yeah, that's the immune system method. 0.75

01:57:09.000 Like if your veins are doing, you can't rip your veins out of your body.

01:57:12.000 It's a very, very effective protest.

01:57:14.000 Right.

01:57:14.000 Like in terms of the ability to sort of force the other side to really negotiate with you normally, you know, I mean, you just don't have to do that because the protests aren't that powerful.

01:57:23.000 Exactly.

01:57:24.000 Christopher Fisher says Ian is the Taliban evil. Well, that's a Taliban's a group 1.00

01:57:29.000 So an individual can do evil things, but that doesn't mean they're always evil forever. Okay, and that's maybe that's

01:57:35.000 an answer Well, here's a question though

01:57:37.000 If the group exists specifically to band people together to do something evil, then is the group itself evil

01:57:44.000 I think it's it's tough because if I put a Taliban sticker on my chest, it doesn't just not even necessarily the

01:57:49.000 Taliban Like we're just talking about I'm curious about your view

01:57:52.000 of groups. I don't think generalness makes people If I slapped like a swastika some some insignia read it

01:57:58.000 doesn't turn me evil It doesn't also I could take it off my chest and I'm still

01:58:01.000 Ian Well, I would agree it doesn't turn you evil

01:58:03.000 But don't you think that kind of signifier displays what's going on inside which could indicate whether you are

01:58:08.000 Leaning towards good actions or evil. I think maybe it's correlative but not causative

01:58:13.000 Well yeah, I mean, so like if someone else comes and slaps a swastika on you, that doesn't make you a Nazi.

01:58:20.000 The patch doesn't cause it, but I think it causes people to know where your loyalties lie when you wear it voluntarily.

01:58:27.000 Maybe not know, it causes them to consider where they lie, but they definitely don't know, just because of the way I look or the group I'm affiliated with.

01:58:35.000 All right.

01:58:36.000 NoLegsNoProblemTV says, Gen X are the kids of boomers, 1965 to 1979.

01:58:40.000 Millennials are 80 and on. 0.86

01:58:43.000 I'm a millennial.

01:58:44.000 I'm near, I wouldn't say late millennial, but closer to the end of millennial.

01:58:52.000 And my parents are boomers.

01:58:54.000 Yeah, same for me.

01:58:55.000 Same.

01:58:55.000 I'm X. I'm the last year of X and my parents are boomers.

01:58:59.000 So it's a gradient across the board.

01:59:02.000 It's not like there's just one generation, then one generation, but typically leapfrogs.

01:59:06.000 Like the bulk is a leapfrog.

01:59:09.000 My kids would be not millennial.

01:59:11.000 I'd be Gen X with like Alpha Gen kids or something.

01:59:16.000 Yeah.

01:59:16.000 Your kids would be Gen Alpha.

01:59:17.000 I'm going to call it Alpha Gen.

01:59:18.000 It's called Generation Alpha.

01:59:20.000 I'm switching it.

01:59:21.000 He's changing it.

01:59:22.000 Yeah.

01:59:22.000 That's Ian's prerogative.

01:59:24.000 All right.

01:59:24.000 Let's grab some more of these super gents real quick.

01:59:27.000 Let's see.

01:59:30.000 Crafty Veteran says, Hey Tim, have you seen Showtime's new documentary series trailer?

01:59:34.000 Everything's going to be all white. 0.87

01:59:36.000 Because seeing it caused quite the controversy today.

01:59:39.000 No, I don't know what that's about.

01:59:40.000 Do you guys know what that's about?

01:59:41.000 It's a super racist thing. 0.99

01:59:41.000 It's just like white people are bad and they're doing all sorts of bad things. 0.99

01:59:46.000 And here's a bunch of people of color talking about systemic racism. 0.99

01:59:49.000 It's like, how boring.

01:59:51.000 Who makes that and thinks they're doing anything interesting?

01:59:54.000 It's so tedious.

01:59:54.000 Ian, let me ask you a question.

01:59:57.000 Are white people evil as a group? 0.95

01:59:59.000 Would you at least say that? 0.99

02:00:00.000 There are no white people. 0.99

02:00:00.000 Would you at least say that white people are evil? 0.99

02:00:02.000 No one's white and no one's bad. 1.00

02:00:03.000 It's not white people that are evil, it's whiteness that's evil. 0.99

02:00:06.000 Let me ask you a question. 0.99

02:00:09.000 If a group of people were demanding the right for the government to discriminate on the basis of race, would you oppose that?

02:00:15.000 Yeah.

02:00:16.000 What if they won and started discriminating on the basis of race, would you be upset with that?

02:00:20.000 Yeah.

02:00:21.000 What would you be willing to do to stop them from violating the rights of people based on their race?

02:00:27.000 Usually what I do is I make TV shows and yell and convince people to change their minds.

02:00:33.000 I suppose the more difficult question is, Ian, if you saw a guy had taken any racial minority, literally chained them up in their backyard and was forcing them at a whip crack to do hard labor, what would you try and stop that person?

02:00:48.000 Yeah, call 911. 0.92

02:00:50.000 What if you're in the middle of nowhere and there's no cell service?

02:00:52.000 Post-apocalypse, Ian.

02:00:53.000 Can't call the cops.

02:00:54.000 I don't think I would attack the situation.

02:00:56.000 It's too dangerous.

02:00:57.000 I'd know that it was there and I would report it somehow.

02:00:59.000 Let's say you're armed.

02:01:01.000 I don't think I would attack the situation.

02:01:02.000 It's not safe.

02:01:03.000 That's not a safe situation to attack. 0.96

02:01:05.000 What if the guy's a complete, just a total wimp? 0.91

02:01:07.000 No guns. 0.98

02:01:07.000 He has nothing. 0.98

02:01:08.000 He has nothing. 0.98

02:01:09.000 By the way, I'm useless! 0.94

02:01:10.000 Yeah, you could totally take this guy. 0.92

02:01:12.000 No, no, no.

02:01:13.000 Let's say you're armed with a gun, and you see a man who's enslaved another man.

02:01:17.000 Would you save the person who's been enslaved?

02:01:20.000 I wouldn't attack the slaver.

02:01:23.000 Not today, not me in 2022.

02:01:26.000 That's the craziest thing to me.

02:01:28.000 Would you guys?

02:01:34.000 There's no cell service anywhere, and you come across a guy who's enslaved another man.

02:01:39.000 Let's say it's a racial minority. 0.92

02:01:41.000 You're armed.

02:01:42.000 Would you attempt to free the man who's been enslaved?

02:01:44.000 Enslaved.

02:01:45.000 And use force if necessary.

02:01:46.000 By the way, he's not asking for legal advice.

02:01:48.000 He's asking for philosophical.

02:01:50.000 I mean, moral, ethical questions.

02:01:54.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:01:56.000 I mean, I mean.

02:01:57.000 It's kind of crazy to me.

02:01:57.000 I think the answer is very, very simple.

02:01:59.000 Yes, 100%. 0.96

02:02:00.000 I would yell to the guy, back the F off, get away now.

02:02:04.000 Where's the key to the chains? 0.95

02:02:06.000 But what if he pulls out a weapon?

02:02:08.000 If someone enslaved another person, and like literally kidnapped- He's probably got a weapon on him.

02:02:12.000 And had a weapon on him, I would act in defense of others and use the force necessary to stop that situation.

02:02:19.000 Does he even care that he's a slave?

02:02:21.000 I mean, is he- Ian, what?

02:02:22.000 Is he being attacked?

02:02:24.000 What?

02:02:24.000 Yes, I'd imagine.

02:02:25.000 We're slaves to the system that we live in.

02:02:26.000 I don't care.

02:02:27.000 Yo, yo, yo. 0.99

02:02:28.000 I don't want someone to break me out of it.

02:02:29.000 Would you want someone with a gun to come save you and do that for others?

02:02:32.000 No, no.

02:02:32.000 Thank you.

02:02:32.000 They've tried.

02:02:32.000 No thanks.

02:02:33.000 I don't need government to save me right now.

02:02:34.000 There are some things that I think are- That big government intervening in slavery relations.

02:02:43.000 Let me simplify it for you.

02:02:45.000 If you saw a big fat 50 year old bald guy with a 7 year old little girl with a chain around her neck and he was dragging her and you were armed, would you use the force necessary to save that little girl?

02:02:56.000 If he was dragging her across the ground and hurting her?

02:02:59.000 That's a different story.

02:03:00.000 If I just see a slave, like a guy chained up, sitting there, that's different than seeing a kid get dragged across the ground.

02:03:06.000 Let's say it's a field, you're coming across a field, you've got no cell service, you're armed, and you see a big, fat, nasty-looking, slobbering guy with a ten-year-old girl in chains, crying and screaming, her wrists are red, and he's laughing at her, and he's like, I own you. 0.95

02:03:22.000 I would take control of the situation with the weapon, and if he had a weapon, I'd fire. 0.90

02:03:25.000 If he aimed his weapon, I'd fire.

02:03:26.000 So, when it comes to racial minorities, you wouldn't intervene, but when it comes to children, you would.

02:03:30.000 Well, if any human, I don't care what race they are, if they're a child and they're being dragged across the ground by someone, I will intervene.

02:03:36.000 But like general slavery, you're fine with?

02:03:39.000 It's not my position to go destroy someone's slave environment.

02:03:43.000 I would love to.

02:03:44.000 I can't.

02:03:44.000 What do you want me to do?

02:03:46.000 I'm not advocating America attacking China.

02:03:49.000 John Brown.

02:03:49.000 I know John Brown was intense.

02:03:51.000 I have him on my Twitter page.

02:03:53.000 But I'm not advocating invading China to free the Uyghurs. 1.00

02:03:57.000 I think I would love to free the Uyghurs. 1.00

02:03:58.000 Ian, look, here's the thing.

02:04:00.000 I think you're extrapolating what your answer might be to other more complicated situations.

02:04:05.000 Tim's just asking, in this specific situation, what would you do?

02:04:09.000 Not necessarily how that applies to China or any other foreign power.

02:04:13.000 Right, but I think Ian's issue is that he doesn't want to answer these moral questions, so he instead deflects.

02:04:18.000 I do.

02:04:18.000 But it's also 10.03, but I want to.

02:04:19.000 Let's go.

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02:04:31.000 Now that you say it like that, it actually, I don't know, maybe I'm just tired from my newborn fatigue.

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02:05:29.000 Thank you.

02:05:29.000 Ian, everyone's typing one in chat.

02:05:31.000 That means I win.

02:05:32.000 Oh no, that means I win.

02:05:33.000 Type of one if you love me.

02:05:35.000 All too late.

02:05:36.000 I want to give a special shout out to Luke Rudkowski who's in the chat right now.

02:05:39.000 And I got his shirt on right now.

02:05:41.000 This is a We Are Change shirt.

02:05:43.000 Oh snap.

02:05:43.000 This is awesome.

02:05:44.000 It's got all the different dystopian worlds and in the middle you're here.

02:05:48.000 I don't necessarily agree with that, Luke, but I'm wearing a shirt because I love you and I love the shirt.

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02:05:56.000 And I just rolled a 20, by the way.

02:05:57.000 Ian, you won't even take a stance on the shirt you're wearing.

02:06:01.000 I know, it's amazing.

02:06:04.000 I love it.

02:06:05.000 I firmly agree with the shirt.

02:06:06.000 I have to say that I think the world we're living in is a weirder and worse dystopia than any portrayed in any of these books.

02:06:11.000 I'm hoping that it's about to get brighter.

02:06:14.000 It's very dark right now.

02:06:15.000 Anyway, you guys may follow me on Twitter and Mines at Sour Patch Lids.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 09, 2022

Timcast IRL - Freedom Convoy Truckers Have WON, Tow Companies Side With Movement w-Will Chamberlain

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