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00:01:46.000 Joining us today is Ryder, radio talk show host, presidential candidate, he even has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, the one and only Larry Elder.

00:01:55.000 Thank you for joining us today.

00:01:56.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:01:57.000 I really appreciate it.

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00:02:00.000 Absolutely.

00:02:01.000 It was totally sincere.

00:02:02.000 Good.

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00:02:28.000 That episode of Culture War was spicy, wasn't it?

00:02:32.000 Serge and I just went through some stuff this morning.

00:02:34.000 Yeah, it was a lot.

00:02:34.000 It was a battle in here.

00:02:36.000 Anyways, take it away, Tim.

00:02:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:02:38.000 Let's dive right into our first story here.

00:02:42.000 Fox News has said they will match employee donations to Satanic Temple, the Trevor Project, Planned Parenthood, and the SPLC.

00:02:49.000 Unbelievable.

00:02:50.000 All the organizations, of course, that we would hope Fox would be against because they stand for all the things that Fox's audience wants destroyed in the United States, but here we are.

00:02:58.000 Whistleblowers from Fox News have revealed that the company uses an app called FoxGiving to match employee donations to approved organizations, which again include the Satanic Temple, the Trevor Project, which by the way, for those of you who have been following the show, know has a chatroom portal that they advertise to minors that allows for you to speak to an adult about your sexual identity, and if you hit the escape button three times, it clears your entire browser history.

00:03:21.000 Cool.

00:03:22.000 Is that the one that Daniel Radcliffe speaks for on a regular basis?

00:03:25.000 Yeah, okay.

00:03:26.000 Yeah, so if that's not bad enough, of course they're also matching donations to Planned Parenthood and the SPLC.

00:03:33.000 They're willing to match donations up to $1,000.

00:03:35.000 So the whistleblowers took the story to The Blaze, which reports that Fox is going to subsidize some of the very activist groups that despise and seek to ruin the network's viewers.

00:03:45.000 Evidencing a complete disregard and hatred for its core audience.

00:03:49.000 We've seen a lot of shenanigans from the people over at Fox lately.

00:03:52.000 Them getting rid of Tucker Carlson was certainly, in my estimation, a blunder on their part.

00:03:57.000 I also think it was bad for the American people.

00:03:59.000 The way I've described this in the past is that CNN tells you what you're supposed to believe, And then Fox exists to tell you what you're allowed to believe.

00:04:06.000 If you're not going to swallow what they're trying to give you over at CNN, Fox offers you this alternative that's still somewhat market safe, it's still somewhat PC, and they tell you this is the outer limit, this is the boundary.

00:04:15.000 Once you've hit this, you can't go further to the right or else you're a nutjob and a conspiracy theorist.

00:04:19.000 Part of the value of Tucker Carlson on that network was that he pushed that Overton window further to the right.

00:04:24.000 They got rid of him.

00:04:25.000 That is one step that Fox News has taken.

00:04:28.000 And what I would argue is a long series of steps to insult their core audience and harm the movement.

00:04:34.000 What do you guys think?

00:04:35.000 My first question is, what did Fox say in response to the Blaze piece?

00:04:39.000 Did they put out a statement?

00:04:40.000 Did they deny it?

00:04:40.000 Did they confirm it?

00:04:41.000 I haven't seen any comments from them yet.

00:04:43.000 And I will say there are a lot of corporations that offer this type of match-giving, right?

00:04:47.000 So Google did this for a long time, and I know that there were cases of employees Opting to donate to conservative causes and Google said, no, we won't do it.

00:04:56.000 And so for me, I can't, I don't personally know the whistleblower Fox, but I would love to see what organizations Fox is denying.

00:05:05.000 If they're saying yes to the SPLC, if they're saying yes to It's just hard for me to believe that Fox would do that, particularly with an organization like SPLC.

00:05:18.000 I mean, this is an organization that once called Dr. Ben Carson a hate monger.

00:05:22.000 And so I just, I'm a little skeptical.

00:05:25.000 I'd like to see what Fox has said in response because there are a lot of people that are mad at Fox and they come forward, they give a story and next thing you know, people run with it.

00:05:33.000 So I just, I'm skeptical all the time and I'm skeptical about this too.

00:05:37.000 Yeah, that's fair.

00:05:38.000 I think that's a prudent approach to take, to wonder what their statement is, and I guess we'll see how they respond to this.

00:05:43.000 I've definitely been disturbed by some of what Fox has done in the past year, but I would agree that's probably a safe course of action.

00:05:48.000 And clearly I'm upset about Tucker Carlson not being there.

00:05:51.000 I announced for president on April 20th, which turned out to be Tucker Carlson's next to the last show.

00:05:56.000 By the way, I started not to announce on April 20th because that's Hitler's birthday. 0.97

00:05:59.000 I'm a little...

00:06:01.000 Suspicious about that.

00:06:03.000 And we started to put it off for one week.

00:06:05.000 I'm happy we didn't because then we would have been on somebody else's show.

00:06:07.000 We ended up being on the highest rated show in the primetime.

00:06:10.000 So you believe that Fox is essentially, it's the outer limits of what you're allowed to believe publicly without being considered like far-right.

00:06:17.000 Like, do not pass Go, do not become OAN.

00:06:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:21.000 I think that's one way of looking at it.

00:06:23.000 They're sort of, they're conservative.

00:06:24.000 I think they're probably more in line with establishment conservatism, but people see them as safer, I think.

00:06:30.000 Do we have to question this?

00:06:31.000 to you know in organization that you mentioned one american networkers some

00:06:35.000 of these other networks and online publications has somewhat of an

00:06:38.000 increased level of credibility in the mainstream i would say you know ten i

00:06:41.000 have to have a question uh...

00:06:44.000 do we have to question if we call him to him uh... well and i don't have a lot of it

00:06:49.000 It's Tim time.

00:06:50.000 What about me?

00:06:51.000 You're Larry.

00:06:51.000 You're the one and only.

00:06:53.000 If you want to be Tim... I'm the black Tim of white supremacy. 0.91

00:06:57.000 If you want to be the black Tim of white supremacy, you're more than welcome. 1.00

00:07:02.000 To both of my Tims.

00:07:03.000 The thing is, I do feel as though I have to raise a question of First Amendment rights, right?

00:07:09.000 So, and I'm not an expert in this, but if a company offers to match your giving, if it's wrong for Google to say we won't match your gift to a right-wing organization we disagree with, is it wrong for Fox to say we won't give money to a left-wing organization that you choose to pay?

00:07:24.000 It is surprising to me.

00:07:25.000 Well, yeah.

00:07:25.000 that someone who wants to give money to the SPLC works at Fox, but you never know.

00:07:30.000 Some people want to bring it to media.

00:07:32.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people in media who are on the left, you know,

00:07:34.000 just like there are people who work for some left-wing organizations who are more conservative

00:07:38.000 and just don't talk about it. I would suspect it's the case that there are left-wing people

00:07:41.000 who work for Fox and aren't super open about it, or maybe they are more open about it.

00:07:44.000 I've never been to their studio. What I will say is there's two different ways to look at

00:07:48.000 There's the legal question and there's the moral question.

00:07:50.000 I can't answer the legal question.

00:07:52.000 I'm sure Larry was more equipped to answer that one, but in terms of the moral question, I don't think there's anything wrong with Fox saying, no, we would be unwilling to match a donation to organizations that despise our viewers and everything we stand for.

00:08:05.000 I mean... But legally, I'm curious what you'd have to say about that.

00:08:08.000 It's a private company.

00:08:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:08:09.000 I see no reason why they can't have a policy like that.

00:08:11.000 We're not going to match company... match to organizations we don't like and that assault our viewers.

00:08:17.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:08:18.000 So you brought up a story with Google and you asked if it's okay in both circumstances.

00:08:23.000 I'm curious what the fallout ended up being for Google.

00:08:26.000 Well, with Google, you know, I know the story personally for some of these employees.

00:08:30.000 They battled through and got the donations, but obviously then had a target on their back, right?

00:08:34.000 They were then a band of people who believed in the wrong organization.

00:08:38.000 So it is a question of what the repercussions are.

00:08:41.000 I tend to agree with you.

00:08:42.000 If they're a private company, perhaps they should have value.

00:08:44.000 And I think it would show integrity to what they presume to represent in this country, of course.

00:08:50.000 You know, I think Fox has done some good things.

00:08:53.000 I think there are things that I question.

00:08:54.000 Of course, it is a major corporation, and I think, ultimately, it serves its bottom line, which, you know, is a reality of their business.

00:09:04.000 Imagine being, like, in an industry full of people where you're, like, maybe you're, like, the one right-wing guy at CNN.

00:09:09.000 Imagine being the one left-wing guy at Fox News.

00:09:12.000 You're just the one guy hanging out there.

00:09:15.000 Well, there are people like that.

00:09:17.000 I mean, that's what Project Veritas found out about CNN.

00:09:20.000 A couple of people were on tape and they were upset about Jeffrey Zucker and about how every morning he would have a nine o'clock meeting or whatever hour it was, basically telling people what to say, and this guy was ticked off about it.

00:09:29.000 He said he had a personal vendetta against Donald Trump, tell us just what to say, to the exclusion of other issues.

00:09:34.000 So there are people within probably every organization that feels that way.

00:09:37.000 Do you think that the trajectory Fox has been on, where they've lost some of the support, you know, since the election and what's going on now, obviously since Tucker has gone, does that fall in line kind of with Project Veritas since the exit of James O'Keefe, where I see people, like I still follow Project Veritas on social media, but I don't see the same kind of vigor for the cause that you saw there before?

00:10:00.000 Like it feels like they've lost the momentum that they had before?

00:10:03.000 Well, in my opinion, it's hard to say that people like Mark Levin or Sean Hannity are not aggressive and not passionate.

00:10:11.000 They are.

00:10:11.000 But I do think Fox underestimated how popular Tucker Carlson was and how much he meant to the whole organization.

00:10:16.000 It reminds me of when Johnny Carson was on Late Night and when he'd go on vacation, the Today Show or whatever show it was in the morning, the Today Show, would have lower ratings.

00:10:26.000 Oh, I meant more like the audience vigor.

00:10:29.000 I felt like the support behind those organizations from their audience feels like it's better.

00:10:34.000 Well, the ratings still that.

00:10:36.000 The ratings are down almost 50%.

00:10:37.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that is a good point.

00:10:39.000 For me, Fox is interesting for a lot of reasons.

00:10:43.000 One of the things that I would question is if the audience are reacting to The content and the content is ultimately driven by executive decisions.

00:10:52.000 And of course, we'd have to kind of examine what's going on with the Murdoch family to completely understand the direction that Fox is taking.

00:10:58.000 And I'm not sure how to speculate on that.

00:11:00.000 But I know that, you know, as as leadership changes hands, of course, there can be questions about the direction of the network, right?

00:11:09.000 I also find that, you know, again, I think there's a place for conservative media, of course, and of course there should be conservative voice in mainstream media, but because we tend to work on alternative media, we work on, you know, the internet, emerging media, The thing that I love about conservative audiences is that they are always willing to seek new sources and I find that to be refreshing.

00:11:30.000 In some ways Fox has to compete with more because we are growing stronger than CNN sort of mainstream media does because I just don't see the same parallel to what we are building here on the left.

00:11:41.000 They take their CNN, they set it and forget it and just use that as their source for everything, as their source of information for everything, whereas people who tend to be right-leaning are excited to go out and explore new avenues of people to listen to.

00:11:55.000 I think, Brett, the miscalculation was that Fox, historically, they've seen big names depart.

00:12:00.000 Bill O'Reilly left.

00:12:01.000 Train kept on going.

00:12:03.000 Megyn Kelly left.

00:12:03.000 Train kept on going.

00:12:04.000 Lou Dobbs.

00:12:05.000 You know, a lot of people have left and nothing happened.

00:12:08.000 And I think they assumed that the organization was bigger than any one individual and they underestimated how big Tucker Carlson was.

00:12:14.000 Yeah, I mean he was absolutely massive and people really loved him.

00:12:17.000 Part of what I valued so much about him were the things I laid out earlier about the fact that he was willing to entertain and even promote ideas that other people in the mainstream weren't.

00:12:25.000 What he was saying about January 6th and Ray Epps were things that I was very surprised to hear on television.

00:12:31.000 And about Ukraine, I mean, and these are things that really lended credibility to this narrative, not just because he was saying it on television, that's huge in terms of optics, but also because he was supplying good evidence for this story.

00:12:43.000 And so when he released the Jan 6 tapes on television, I thought that was a massive victory for truth and for the fight against the hegemonic narrative that the left-wing media forces the American people to stomach.

00:12:54.000 And so when he left you had a lot of conservatives saying things like, ultimately this is really good for Tucker Carlson because he's better off without Fox and I don't think anyone was or is doubtful that he's going to be tremendously successful at whatever he does.

00:13:07.000 He already has been.

00:13:07.000 Exactly.

00:13:09.000 But what was really sad for me was that even though I was well aware of the fact that he'd be successful, there is something about the credibility that television lends to a person that makes their ideas more palatable to the American people.

00:13:20.000 Yeah, like people were talking about, because he did his interview on Tucker on Twitter with Andrew Tate, which cracked like, what, 80 to 100 million viewers.

00:13:29.000 And they were trying to pass it off as like, this is the most watched interview of all time.

00:13:33.000 The problem is, when you look at that list, it's all ABC, NBC.

00:13:36.000 It's a lot of 60 Minutes, Diane Sawyer.

00:13:38.000 So it automatically is kind of discounted by people because they're like, what is a view?

00:13:43.000 On Twitter, a view is just somebody scrolling past it.

00:13:45.000 So the legitimacy that being on a network slot at a specific time gives credibility in a way that's a lot easier if you're trying to share something with somebody who may not be informed on what you're talking about.

00:13:57.000 It's a big, big pleasure that he no longer has.

00:13:59.000 No question about it.

00:14:00.000 He also went after pharmaceutical companies.

00:14:02.000 Yep.

00:14:03.000 And if you look at the commercials, not just on Fox, but everybody, Ozempic, there's this, there's that, there's this, there's that.

00:14:08.000 There's all these drugs that the pharmaceuticals are pushing.

00:14:10.000 They're a huge advertiser.

00:14:12.000 And so he was essentially going after many of the advertisers that are on Fox.

00:14:15.000 Yeah.

00:14:16.000 And that took a great deal of cashews.

00:14:19.000 Yeah, I mean, look, when you have positions that are not television safe, it makes sense.

00:14:23.000 I got that.

00:14:25.000 I mean, he had positions that weren't television safe.

00:14:27.000 That's what we value about him.

00:14:28.000 But when you're in that position, it's kind of an inevitability that you're going to get pushed off of the network, especially if they're trying to stand by their advertisers rather than ensuring that the The viewers get the truth on those matters.

00:14:39.000 One of the things that I think is really a testament to Tucker Carlson and the work that he did was after, you know, when he was let go from Fox, I believe around the same week Don Lemon was let go from CNN.

00:14:49.000 And when Don Lemon was let go, everyone was speculating, is this because of the extremely ignorant comments that he made to Vivek?

00:14:55.000 Is this because of him saying that women aren't in their prime past their 40s in front of those women?

00:15:01.000 When Tucker got let go, was it this story?

00:15:04.000 Was it that story?

00:15:05.000 I mean, people were talking about important journalistic work that the establishment might not like.

00:15:09.000 When Don Lemon got let go, no one was thinking, oh, you know, that one story he told really shook up the establishment and ruffled a lot of feathers.

00:15:15.000 It was petty drama that people were speculating he had to have been let go over.

00:15:18.000 And it's not just true of Don Lemon, that's most journalists today.

00:15:22.000 Well, when Don Lemon was let go, the issue to me was, what took him so long? 0.95

00:15:27.000 He's one of the dumbest people on television, always playing the race card, hated Donald Trump, referred to him as a racist, I could go on and on and on, but he even took a shot at me one time. 0.97

00:15:36.000 What did he say? 1.00

00:15:37.000 He said I wasn't very smart.

00:15:38.000 Why did he say that about you?

00:15:39.000 Dennis Prager was on his show and he says, my friend Larry Elder says, and Don Lemon said, well, why are you quoting Larry Elder?

00:15:44.000 He's not that smart.

00:15:45.000 Why?

00:15:46.000 He said, oh, he's very, very smart.

00:15:47.000 And Don Lemon says, no, just because he's on conservative radio doesn't mean he's with it.

00:15:53.000 That's what he said.

00:15:54.000 Yeah.

00:15:54.000 What is that even supposed to mean to me?

00:15:55.000 I have no idea what it means.

00:15:56.000 Very unsmart rhetoric.

00:15:58.000 Yeah, I was going to say that's not like he's not demonstrating his own intelligence there.

00:16:02.000 I think that's one of the things about personalities in media that I find so interesting, especially when we contrast Tucker.

00:16:08.000 Obviously, I have never had Don Lemon specifically attack me, but someone who feels as though they are a benefit to the institution, that CNN is better because Don Lemon is there, that type of I'm going to use the word self-confidence, but I really, really mean his ego, is toxic.

00:16:27.000 And I think that really inhibits someone's performance in work.

00:16:30.000 Whereas Tucker Carlson, despite the fact that he got big, really did continue to push to have truth and to see this mission and connect to his viewers.

00:16:38.000 And I just, you know, I don't see the same trajectory of Don Lemon's career.

00:16:43.000 And so they become different value assets.

00:16:45.000 To Fox, Tucker was a risk in a lot of ways, but Don Lemon was just a drain on resources. 0.97

00:16:49.000 That's a very polite way of saying hand it clear that Don Lemon is dumb and Tucker Carlson is not. 0.94

00:16:55.000 I was on Don Lemon's show once, I think the last time I was on, shockingly, and we're talking about racism. 0.97

00:17:03.000 And I pointed out that Time and CNN some years ago had done a study of black teenagers.

00:17:08.000 And they asked him whether or not race was a major problem in America, and the majority of them said yes.

00:17:12.000 But then they asked the black teenagers whether racism was a big problem, a small problem, or no problem in their own daily life.

00:17:19.000 89% of the black teens said, a small problem or no problem in my own daily life.

00:17:22.000 In fact, more black teens than white teens said, failure to take advantage of available opportunities was a bigger problem than racism.

00:17:28.000 I said that to Don Lemon.

00:17:29.000 And that was the last time I was on his show.

00:17:30.000 Shocking!

00:17:31.000 Yeah, why would we want to kick you off for that?

00:17:33.000 Why would I quote a poll done by CNN on CNN to refute what he was saying on CNN? 0.52

00:17:39.000 Because you're not very smart, according to Daniel.

00:17:41.000 Yeah, according to him, not a very smart move.

00:17:43.000 You want to get invited back on.

00:17:44.000 Maybe that's what you're saying.

00:17:45.000 Maybe that's the media savvy. 1.00

00:17:47.000 You're dumb, Lara. 1.00

00:17:47.000 Who's my point? 1.00

00:17:48.000 You're not going to be on anymore.

00:17:49.000 This is one of the things I've said repeatedly.

00:17:51.000 When people talk about BLM, for example, they act as if this is an organization that speaks for black people.

00:17:55.000 I don't remember any focus group going into black neighborhoods and asking them what kind of political change they'd like to see and then forming an organization around it.

00:18:02.000 It sounds to me like there were people who also had black skin who claimed that they speak for every other black person and started pushing far-left Marxist talking points.

00:18:09.000 Do you know what incident started BLM?

00:18:12.000 I believe it was Trayvon Martin?

00:18:14.000 Correct.

00:18:14.000 Yes.

00:18:15.000 People think it was.

00:18:15.000 It wasn't George Floyd.

00:18:16.000 It was Trayvon Martin.

00:18:18.000 And as you know, George Zimmerman was found not guilty of shooting and killing Trayvon Martin.

00:18:22.000 There were no blacks on the jury, but there was a black juror.

00:18:27.000 And those jurors who spoke publicly afterwards said that race never came up.

00:18:33.000 And the black juror said, alternate said, that he would have found him not guilty as well and race never came up.

00:18:38.000 What's interesting to me about the George Floyd riots, the four months we had in 2020, is that the lead prosecutor in the case was a black man.

00:18:46.000 And I was a trial lawyer when I practiced law.

00:18:50.000 And the most important part of a trial is your opening statement.

00:18:52.000 And he took pains to say that the police in general were not on trial.

00:18:57.000 The Minneapolis PD in general was not on trial.

00:18:58.000 This individual named Derek Chauvin was on trial for what he did or what he didn't do.

00:19:02.000 He never even implied what he did had to do with race and Chauvin was never charged with a hate crime.

00:19:07.000 Yet you had four months of people in the streets.

00:19:09.000 Why?

00:19:09.000 Because the assumption was because of what Chauvin did had to do with George Floyd's race even though the prosecutor never even implied it.

00:19:16.000 Yeah, that whole... What's that all about?

00:19:18.000 Well, also, I want to mention this with the Trayvon... Because at the end they were saying, you know, this was obviously racially motivated, which... Yeah, which is nonsense, but in the... I remember with the Trayvon story, NBC actually came out and they had to apologize for this later, which was just shocking that any media outlet was willing to do that.

00:19:33.000 Maybe it's because this was about 10 years ago and they wouldn't do it today.

00:19:37.000 But they edited the recording of the call that Zimmerman made to the police.

00:19:42.000 They asked him to describe Zimmerman, and he said he looked like he was up to no good.

00:19:46.000 And then they asked him to describe what he was wearing, and he said something like, he's wearing a hoodie, it's black.

00:19:50.000 And they sliced the phone call down, so they said, how does he look?

00:19:54.000 And he responds in the edited tape, he looks like he's up to no good, he looks black. 1.00

00:19:59.000 That's evil. 0.98

00:20:01.000 And that is why people are deluded.

00:20:03.000 There's a website called Policemag.com, and they ask people who are self-described as very liberal, how many unarmed black men did the police kill in 2019?

00:20:13.000 Half of them thought the police killed 1,000.

00:20:14.000 8% thought they killed 10,000.

00:20:16.000 And then people who are self-described as liberal, 39% of them thought the police killed 1,000 unarmed black men in 2019, and 5% thought they killed 10,000.

00:20:24.000 The answer was 12 according to the Washington Post database.

00:20:27.000 Yeah, that's how deluded people are between what's really going on what they think is going on

00:20:31.000 In fact, the police kill more unarmed whites every year than they kill unarmed blacks

00:20:34.000 I bet most people in this audience could probably not name an unarmed white person 0.69

00:20:37.000 Hmm because media doesn't give a rip. Well, and not only that but when you actually look at that

00:20:41.000 Post that was published on the number of black men who were killed by the police while not being armed and you go

00:20:46.000 through the specific One of them was he was attacking the police officer.

00:20:50.000 Okay, so and there were others like attacking an old lady just because you're unarmed doesn't mean you're not a threat to somebody else's life.

00:20:55.000 Michael Brown was unarmed.

00:20:56.000 His DNA was found on the officer's gun.

00:20:58.000 He reached for it, yeah.

00:21:00.000 And there's a guy in a famous case named Amadou Diablo in New York, I think I'm mispronouncing his name, an immigrant, and he fit the description of somebody, and they had him in some sort of alley, they told him to show his hands, show his hands, and he reaches for his wallet, and they shoot him.

00:21:15.000 Hillary referred to the cops as murderers. 1.00

00:21:16.000 They were found not guilty because the gesture was reasonably perceived as a threatening gesture.

00:21:20.000 So you were unarmed.

00:21:21.000 It doesn't mean you were not dangerous or not reasonably perceived as dangerous.

00:21:24.000 There's a reason they say hands up.

00:21:25.000 You are not supposed to reach for anything.

00:21:28.000 When anyone has a gun pointed at you, when a police officer has a gun pointed at you or they're telling you you're under arrest, whatever it is, they don't even have to have the gun drawn, do not reach into your pockets.

00:21:34.000 Don't reach into your glove box.

00:21:36.000 This is one of the most basic things.

00:21:37.000 And all the time we hear people saying, oh, well, you know, as a black person with children, I constantly have to tell them, When the cops pull you over, don't reach into your wallet, don't reach into your glove box.

00:21:45.000 Everyone knows that!

00:21:46.000 That's not a black or white thing!

00:21:48.000 Everyone knows that.

00:21:49.000 Your parents should teach you how to properly behave at a traffic stop. 0.94

00:21:52.000 Hillary referred to that as the talk, meaning only black people say that. 0.99

00:21:55.000 Nonsense. 0.98

00:21:57.000 And it's getting people killed because it's called the George Floyd effect or the Ferguson effect.

00:22:00.000 And that's the phenomenon of cops pulling back from their normal proactive policing.

00:22:04.000 So the last few years there are thousands of people who are dead or who have been injured who otherwise would not have suffered if the police had been doing their normal proactive policing.

00:22:11.000 And the so-called excess casualties or deaths are the very black and brown people that people on the left purport to care about. 0.93

00:22:17.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:22:17.000 So you're getting people killed. 0.98

00:22:18.000 Because they're keeping accurate information from them.

00:22:20.000 And I think that's the biggest crime.

00:22:20.000 Exactly.

00:22:22.000 It's sad, too, because I'm from Minnesota.

00:22:27.000 The North Minneapolis Police, for a lot of years, not a great reputation.

00:22:32.000 There is a strong argument to be made that changes needed to happen, that there were problems within that police force that are well documented that go back decades and decades and decades.

00:22:42.000 But what it does is it takes the focus off the actual problem and puts it on to one individual example, which when misreported or reported the way that it was, Brings people and makes it extremely radicalizes people to the point where like you said we we experienced a lot of writing from I'll give you another example Brett We know about the the subway guy Daniel Penny who put the chokehold on right on Jordan Neely three weeks earlier Tell me if you knew this three weeks earlier Tulsa, Oklahoma homeless black man walks up behind a white guy takes out a gun shoots him in the back of the head kills him Goes to another area of Tulsa, Oklahoma finds another white guy shoots him in the back of the head and kills him admits He did it because they were white

00:23:24.000 Cities might have been burnt down. 0.99

00:23:24.000 Oh my gosh. 0.99

00:23:25.000 Can you imagine if the races were reversed? 0.99

00:23:27.000 If this had been a white guy, homeless, popped two black guys behind the head, 1.00

00:23:30.000 execution style, and killed them? 0.99

00:23:31.000 We know his name. 0.99

00:23:32.000 Cities might have been burnt down.

00:23:33.000 We know his name.

00:23:34.000 We know the name of the people who were victimized.

00:23:35.000 Most people don't even know about this story.

00:23:37.000 It took place three weeks earlier than the internet on the subway.

00:23:40.000 And I had heard about the story and watched it not get picked up.

00:23:43.000 What I also found was interesting with Jordan Neely was that the fact that he had a history of specifically committing assaults in subways.

00:23:50.000 Yeah.

00:23:50.000 So we acted like he was just, you know, obviously he's troubled.

00:23:53.000 There is a lot of reasonable conversation to have around the foster care system, which he was involved in, mental health, things like that.

00:23:59.000 But we should not deny the fact that he had established criminal history specifically in the place where this interaction with Penny happened.

00:24:08.000 Right.

00:24:09.000 And Hannah-Claire, real quickly, what's interesting about this is what is the evidence that Daniel Penney would have just sat there had Jordan Neely been white?

00:24:17.000 Okay, white guy's threatening people.

00:24:19.000 It's cool. 0.98

00:24:20.000 He's white.

00:24:21.000 It's all good.

00:24:21.000 What up, bro?

00:24:22.000 Really?

00:24:22.000 Yeah.

00:24:23.000 He would have done nothing if the guy had been white? 1.00

00:24:25.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:24:27.000 He was screaming that he wasn't afraid to go back to jail, that he was going to hurt people. 0.95

00:24:30.000 Hannah-Claire, you made this point about examining the person's past.

00:24:33.000 This is one of the things that drives me crazy.

00:24:35.000 Every single time someone commits a senseless act, Of violence.

00:24:38.000 The left bends over backwards to engage in every single facet of socioeconomic analysis to find an excuse for this person.

00:24:44.000 This is because we didn't fund the public school they went to.

00:24:46.000 This is because we're not building enough libraries.

00:24:47.000 This is because of some form of structural racism.

00:24:49.000 But when a man sees an unhinged person screaming on the subway, threatening your average person, and he does something which is totally understandable and even heroic by intervening to help people, The only way we can understand that is as racism.

00:25:01.000 Now, socioeconomic factors and the circumstances totally melt away, and this is a war between good and evil, and those are the only factors to consider.

00:25:07.000 And of course, he was pure evil.

00:25:10.000 Never mind the fact that Jordan Neely had assaulted a 60-year-old woman and broken her jaw.

00:25:15.000 Also, that he had been given an opportunity to go into rehab to get city services and counseling, and he left that program.

00:25:22.000 He attempted to kidnap a child.

00:25:23.000 There are all kinds of things.

00:25:24.000 It's insane.

00:25:25.000 It just doesn't make sense at all, and again, I want to have compassion, I want to understand, but I can't do that at the expense of logic or inaccurate information.

00:25:35.000 And you pointed out something important, you're talking about compassion.

00:25:38.000 You are compassionate.

00:25:39.000 Saying that we should allow people to commit crimes is a false compassion, right?

00:25:42.000 Mercy for the pedophile is actually cruelty against the child.

00:25:46.000 Mercy towards the thief is actually cruelty against the person they might steal from.

00:25:49.000 Really, mercy isn't even the right word for it.

00:25:51.000 Mercy is a good thing.

00:25:52.000 There's a difference between mercy and licentiousness or leniency.

00:25:55.000 People have to be punished for crimes.

00:25:57.000 If you don't punish them, you hurt the people around them and you hurt them too because they need to be held accountable.

00:26:02.000 Plus, this is the least racist majority-white country in the world.

00:26:05.000 Racism has never been a less important factor than American life today.

00:26:09.000 This is the only majority-white country that elected a black president.

00:26:14.000 I mean, honestly, how much more do you need? 0.96

00:26:16.000 The president of Harvard is a black female.

00:26:19.000 We've had black CEOs, black CEO of McDonald's, black CEO of Time Warner, black CEOs of American Express.

00:26:27.000 There are three major, three biggest cities in America, New York, L.A., Chicago, all have black mayors.

00:26:34.000 Chicago's second consecutive black mayor, even though the city's just the third black.

00:26:37.000 New York is 25% black, second black mayor.

00:26:40.000 L.A.' 's 9% black, they've got a black female mayor. 1.00

00:26:44.000 You know, Forbes had a list of the most influential celebrities, 25% of them were black.

00:26:49.000 We can go on and on and on.

00:26:50.000 It's never been a less important factor.

00:26:53.000 Acceptance for interracial marriage, all-time high.

00:26:55.000 What more do you need?

00:26:56.000 What more do you need?

00:26:57.000 Well, they need a couple more mansions over there at BLM, right? 0.80

00:26:59.000 The people who are grifting off of this need to make more money, the politicians who are trying to sell.

00:27:03.000 500 at least fake hate crimes in the last few years because we've got a supply and demand problem.

00:27:07.000 That's right, that is exactly right.

00:27:09.000 The demand for racism is exceeding the supply, so they make up stuff.

00:27:13.000 You can always tell because they never know how to draw the swastika.

00:27:15.000 They draw it wrong every single time.

00:27:18.000 That's true!

00:27:19.000 That you know how to draw the swastika, Brad, is kind of frightening.

00:27:22.000 We're all concerned about you now.

00:27:24.000 When you mentioned earlier, you were mentioning the statistics about what they said was like, is racism a very big problem here in America?

00:27:32.000 And then do they experience it in their daily lives?

00:27:34.000 And you said when they say they don't experience it as much in their daily lives.

00:27:37.000 89% said little or nothing.

00:27:40.000 The reason I think that is, inherently, is that we live in our phones now and you're carrying around a device that's telling you that the world is evil and that the people around you are evil.

00:27:49.000 So they're not reacting to the world around them as they experience it.

00:27:53.000 They're reacting to the world around them as they experience it through their phone and through data that they're reading, through stories that they're reading, through infographics, through things they're seeing on TikTok.

00:28:01.000 They're not actually responding to the way they experience the world.

00:28:06.000 I mean, look at Barack Obama.

00:28:07.000 He goes to the finest school in the state of Hawaii.

00:28:11.000 Then he goes to Occidental, which is a very elite private school in L.A.

00:28:15.000 for two years.

00:28:16.000 Then he goes to Columbia, finishes up there.

00:28:18.000 Then he goes to Harvard, becomes president of the Harvard Law Review.

00:28:21.000 Then he goes to work for a major law firm.

00:28:24.000 His kids all went to private school.

00:28:26.000 And he's Malcolm X. I mean, what is that?

00:28:28.000 What is that?

00:28:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:30.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:28:31.000 It's offensive.

00:28:32.000 Well, it is offensive.

00:28:33.000 This is something, it's almost like kind of the rich kid syndrome, right?

00:28:36.000 No one ever wants to admit that they had a good upbringing.

00:28:38.000 No one ever wants to admit that their parents worked hard and that they had things handed to them.

00:28:42.000 Look, I am extremely blessed.

00:28:43.000 The privilege that I had in life is that I had two parents who loved me tremendously, who stayed together, who cared a lot about me and my siblings, and that did give me a leg up.

00:28:53.000 Now, here's the problem.

00:28:54.000 I'm not ashamed of that and I shouldn't be.

00:28:56.000 I think everyone should have that leg up.

00:28:57.000 This is why we need to do everything we can to combat fatherlessness in the incentive structure that the state is trying to promote.

00:29:02.000 Absolutely.

00:29:02.000 Anybody born in America who was born with two parents hit the lottery twice.

00:29:06.000 That's right.

00:29:07.000 A black kid who's poor with mom and dad in the house will have a better outcome than a middle class white kid with just a mom. 0.98

00:29:12.000 Wow. 0.87

00:29:13.000 And the number one issue in America is the epidemic of fatherlessness.

00:29:18.000 70% of black kids today enter the world without a father in the home, married to the mother, up from 25% back in 1965.

00:29:24.000 Now 25% of white kids enter the world without a father in the home, married to the mother. 0.89

00:29:28.000 And 65 is important because that's when a guy named Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who was then the Assistant Secretary of Labor, wrote a booklet for his boss called The Negro Family, A Case for National Action.

00:29:38.000 At the time, 25%, as I mentioned, of black kids were born outside of wedlock, which he thought was horrific, and we needed to do something about it.

00:29:43.000 Now it's almost three times that.

00:29:45.000 And what we've done with the welfare state is incentivize women to marry the government and incentivize men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility. 0.98

00:29:51.000 That's right.

00:29:52.000 Well, and there's an additional element here, too.

00:29:53.000 I totally agree with you on the welfare state, but the Brookings Institute released a very interesting paper where they basically said that while conservatives tend to look at the welfare state, another massively overlooked part of this was Roe v. Wade and the fact that the social expectations completely changed.

00:30:07.000 Now, if a woman was pregnant, it wasn't on the man to stay with her.

00:30:09.000 It was on her to choose whether or not she was going to get an abortion. 1.00

00:30:12.000 And so that reshaped the way we thought about fatherlessness.

00:30:15.000 If you got a woman pregnant and didn't take care of that child in any community, you were entirely detested.

00:30:21.000 You destroyed your reputation.

00:30:22.000 You had to get out of town.

00:30:24.000 Nowadays, that's just the choice that you happen to make.

00:30:26.000 The mother might have issues with it, but she could have gotten an abortion. 1.00

00:30:29.000 Right, and studies bear out that having a father in the home is the biggest factor in children's success.

00:30:34.000 No question about it.

00:30:35.000 You're five times more likely to be poor and commit crime, nine times more likely to drop out of school, 20 times more likely to end up in jail.

00:30:42.000 Obama even quoted those stats once.

00:30:43.000 Yeah, and children who are raised by a single father... I say it, I say it on the black face of white supremacy. 0.97

00:30:48.000 White supremacy! 0.98

00:30:49.000 But Obama can say it, he's down with the press. 1.00

00:30:50.000 It's just crazy how many, like, black and Hispanic white supremacists there are. 0.90

00:30:53.000 There's so much diversity in white supremacy now.

00:30:55.000 You would never guess it.

00:30:56.000 Diversity, equity, inclusion.

00:31:00.000 Also, though, think about colleges that incentivize.

00:31:06.000 Like somebody pointed out, they're like, hard luck story beats 4.0 GPA every time at colleges.

00:31:12.000 So you're incentivized even when you come from that background, because that's part of affirmative action programs and scholarships.

00:31:20.000 Those stories often will be, I was raised by a single mother, and that was hard for me, and I overcame it, whatever else.

00:31:24.000 But actually, studies show that children raised in father-only homes, where their mother has abandoned them, outperform single mother families.

00:31:33.000 It is the single biggest difference in the entire world, and yet, what are we, you were talking about this with the Barbie movie, we are embracing anti-patriarchy, which I think is bananas! 0.57

00:31:43.000 And Black Lives Matter on their website, attack the nuclear intact family. 0.98

00:31:46.000 That's right.

00:31:47.000 And by the way, Barack Obama embraced Black Lives Matter.

00:31:49.000 His first book was all about how he had angst because he didn't have a relationship with his biological dad, Barack Obama.

00:31:55.000 Well, yeah, that's exactly right.

00:31:56.000 So whenever people talk about patriarchy, what they're really talking about, what patriarchy is, is the headship of the father in the household.

00:32:02.000 The idea that this is denigrated, the idea that this is slammed, the idea that this is smeared, it's obvious why, right?

00:32:06.000 Marx wanted to destroy the family.

00:32:08.000 These people also want to be free to pursue whatever deranged, perverted sexual appetites they have, and family gets in the way of that.

00:32:14.000 But here we are.

00:32:15.000 And the co-founders of BLM are self-described trained Marxists.

00:32:18.000 Which they took off the website midway through 2020 because people kept quoting that to them and sharing the old video of them where they talked about that at a meeting, right?

00:32:28.000 Well, people have lost faith in God, and so they have to end up, uh, pledging, uh, allegiance and giving their souls to things that are, of course, significantly less important than one's faith and one's values.

00:32:39.000 We have a poll here from Gallup, which actually shows belief in five supernatural entities edges down to new lows.

00:32:46.000 Well, firstly, I don't even like that framing supernatural entities.

00:32:48.000 Uh, they're talking about God, angels, heaven, They bleep out, censor out the word hell, and also the devil.

00:32:54.000 Yes, so belief in God has edged downward.

00:32:57.000 You see this trend over the past 20 years or so.

00:33:01.000 It was interesting because as I was reading this article, one thing that really was depressing to me was the fact that they were listing the discrepancy between Catholics and Protestants and the number of Catholics and Protestants who believe in God.

00:33:13.000 Why would it not be 100% for both groups?

00:33:16.000 I think it parallels the decline in people that feel patriotic and feel proud of America.

00:33:18.000 this a little bit there is a cultural element to Christianity especially

00:33:21.000 people who will say oh I was always Protestant but I actually do nothing

00:33:24.000 about it I don't read the Bible I go to church when I'm made to go to church

00:33:27.000 they don't live it but they will claim the identity I think that can be

00:33:29.000 attributed to a little bit of this I think it parallels the decline in people

00:33:33.000 that feel patriotic and feel feel proud of America. If you look at the trend lines

00:33:37.000 that they parallel. And fatherlessness too because I you know there's a reason he

00:33:42.000 is described as God the father There are many reasons for it, but a person's relationship with their father is going to inform their attitudes towards God very heavily.

00:33:51.000 In fact, statistically, we know one of the number one predictors of a child choosing to stay with their religion of their family is whether their dad practices that faith.

00:33:58.000 If the mom practices that faith, They're likely to some degree to stay in, but not nearly as likely as if their dad practices the faith.

00:34:04.000 It's incredibly important.

00:34:05.000 Kids learn about God by the way that their fathers act, and it's something that we don't really account for or consider.

00:34:11.000 God and how to live.

00:34:12.000 Exactly.

00:34:13.000 I mean, children learn all sorts of things through their parents.

00:34:16.000 The decisions that you make in your life and when you become a parent should be cognizant of the fact that someone is now watching you.

00:34:22.000 Someone is looking up to you.

00:34:23.000 And I think so much of our anti-responsibility culture parallels this, right?

00:34:28.000 Like, I don't want to think about God because I don't want to think about the afterlife because I don't want to have to think about the fact that my decisions have consequences.

00:34:35.000 In 30 years of being on radio, I've invited Jesse Jackson on dozens of times.

00:34:39.000 He won't even respond.

00:34:40.000 Shocking.

00:34:41.000 I've invited Al Sharpton on dozens of times.

00:34:42.000 He won't respond.

00:34:43.000 Maxine Waters won't respond.

00:34:45.000 Louis Farrakhan wouldn't respond.

00:34:47.000 But one of these so-called black leaders, Kweisi Mfume, at the time he was head of the NAACP president, he was in Congress in Maryland.

00:34:54.000 Now he's back in Congress in Maryland.

00:34:56.000 And he did come on the show.

00:34:57.000 And my first question was as follows. 0.92

00:34:58.000 Mr. Mfume, as between the presence of white racism Or the absence of black fathers, which poses a bigger threat to the black community. 0.98

00:35:05.000 Without missing a beat, to his credit, he said the absence of black fathers. 0.98

00:35:08.000 Good for him. 0.85

00:35:09.000 Yeah.

00:35:09.000 I mean, it's undeniable.

00:35:11.000 And you're right, it is to his credit, because the entire left-wing establishment is going to punish anyone who says something like that.

00:35:16.000 But it's just so undeniably true.

00:35:18.000 I was just wondering if I could ask, you're listing this ban of people who don't want to speak to you, presumably because you're conservative or Republican.

00:35:26.000 Can you tell us a little about how you got to this place politically?

00:35:31.000 You mean how I became conservative?

00:35:32.000 Yeah, when did you adopt the title of Republican?

00:35:35.000 Well, my mom was a Democrat, my dad was a Republican, and they would have these very interesting disputes across the dinner table.

00:35:42.000 Nobody called anybody a fascist, nobody called anybody a Nazi, nobody said, you only care about the rich, you don't care about the poor.

00:35:49.000 And so as a kid, you identify with your mom.

00:35:50.000 And so I was a Democrat.

00:35:52.000 In fact, the first person I voted for for president was Jimmy Carter.

00:35:55.000 And that was because he forward pardoned Nixon.

00:36:00.000 And I thought that was inappropriate.

00:36:02.000 I now think it was a smart thing to do.

00:36:03.000 And so I punished him for doing that.

00:36:07.000 And so I voted for Jimmy Carter.

00:36:08.000 But from that point on, I voted Republican.

00:36:09.000 You punished the American people if you helped Carter get elected.

00:36:12.000 I was an independent for years, and then I decided to run against Barbara Boxer.

00:36:17.000 I forget the year, but a bunch of people prevailed upon me to do that.

00:36:20.000 And so I switched my affiliation from independent to Republican.

00:36:23.000 And then I flew to DC to interview with a bunch of Republican senators to see if I can get the nomination, get the endorsement during the primary season.

00:36:31.000 If they had endorsed me, I was going to run.

00:36:32.000 They endorsed Carly Fiorina instead of me, so I decided not to run.

00:36:35.000 And by the way, when I found out that they endorsed her, I said, why?

00:36:38.000 They said three reasons.

00:36:39.000 She's a woman. 0.82

00:36:40.000 I said, I'll give you that.

00:36:41.000 I'm not going to have a sex change operation to run for Senate. 0.86

00:36:44.000 She has more money than you do. 1.00

00:36:45.000 She did because she just resigned from Hewlett-Packard.

00:36:48.000 They gave her a big settlement. 0.97

00:36:50.000 The third reason was she has higher name recognition than you do. 0.95

00:36:52.000 I said, no, she doesn't.

00:36:54.000 Maybe she does in DC, but not in California.

00:36:55.000 I had a 30% name recognition.

00:36:57.000 Barbara Box's first two opponents, a guy named Bruce Hershenson and then a guy named Matt Fong at the same juncture had a 5% name recognition.

00:37:04.000 And Carly Fiorina lost by 10 points and put very little, by the way, of her own money into the campaign. 1.00

00:37:08.000 Long answer to your question, that's when I became a registered Republican, but I've always been a small ill libertarian.

00:37:14.000 Well, I was going to say, if you were identified as a potential candidate to run for office as a Republican, they must have been aware that you were toying with conservative ideas.

00:37:22.000 Was that something that you got a lot of pushback for?

00:37:24.000 And did you resist?

00:37:26.000 Did you stay an independent to resist the label of Republican?

00:37:30.000 I think so, because I always felt both parties still spend, and I still do.

00:37:35.000 One of the things I'm proposing is an amendment to the Constitution to fix spending to a certain percentage of the GDP, with exceptions for war and for natural disaster.

00:37:42.000 Other than that, they both spend.

00:37:43.000 And part of it is because the so-called entitlements programs are on automatic pilot.

00:37:48.000 Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, and a few others.

00:37:50.000 And if you even suggest you're going to reform them and try to run for office, you're going

00:37:55.000 to lose.

00:37:56.000 So the can gets kicked down the road.

00:37:58.000 Even Barack Obama and Bill Clinton used the word unsustainable to describe the entitlements

00:38:03.000 programs.

00:38:04.000 Everybody knows that they're unsustainable.

00:38:05.000 You just can't politically do anything about it.

00:38:06.000 You can't be the one to ask them.

00:38:08.000 No.

00:38:09.000 if you are forced to do it by law, then and only then will there be a reform.

00:38:13.000 For young people like you, they're not going to be there. 0.86

00:38:16.000 And so it seems to me the president, and I will do that when I become president, will use a bully pulpit to explain this to people, particularly young voters, that this is in your best interest and maybe something can happen.

00:38:24.000 And so I just want to ask quickly, where would you fix that GDP to revenue ratio?

00:38:30.000 Ten percent, which is half of what it is at right now.

00:38:33.000 All right, that's great.

00:38:34.000 That's going to require massive, massive changes.

00:38:36.000 Yeah.

00:38:37.000 And I say ten percent because in 1900, at all three levels, state, local, and federal, believe it or not, Government took 9% from the American people.

00:38:45.000 Now all three levels of government take 32%.

00:38:47.000 And in my opinion, if you put a cost to the mandates, government takes almost 50%.

00:38:51.000 This is way, way, way bigger than what the founding fathers intended.

00:38:54.000 They did not intend for there to be an income tax.

00:38:56.000 They intended for the limited duties and obligations of the federal government to be paid for by duties and tariffs.

00:39:01.000 They would be appalled at Obamacare.

00:39:03.000 They'd be appalled at Social Security.

00:39:04.000 They'd be appalled at Medicare.

00:39:06.000 They'd be appalled at FEMA.

00:39:07.000 They'd be appalled at the things that the federal government is doing. 0.82

00:39:09.000 Well, it's interesting you point out that the federal government takes so much of our money, and they have, and you're right.

00:39:14.000 There's an interesting observation, this is referred to as Hauser's Law, I'm not sure if you're familiar with this, but the basic idea is that regardless of where tax rates are, regardless of how much the government tries to take, since World War II, federal revenues have always hovered around 19.5%, which just goes to show that if you impose these insanely high taxes on people, they either become less productive, and so there's less to tax, or they start hiding their money so the government can't get to it.

00:39:37.000 Rich people are not rich because they're stupid. 1.00

00:39:39.000 Yeah, that's right. 1.00

00:39:40.000 They hide their money or they put them in other kinds of things so that they're taxed less.

00:39:43.000 Yeah, and so, you know, there are certain left-wing commentators who will scoff at the idea of the Laffer Curve, and a more sophisticated left-wing approach is to say, okay, the Laffer Curve exists, but I don't think the parabola peaks until we're at 70% in terms of our tax rate.

00:39:58.000 All right, well, that's Ridiculous, but at least you're acknowledging the reality that if you tax people at 0%, you'll have zero revenue.

00:40:05.000 If you tax them at 100%, you'll also have zero revenue because no one's going to work.

00:40:08.000 And there's some point along the middle where you maximize revenue for the government.

00:40:12.000 But it's also very valuable for us to have this empirical data that shows us you don't seem to be able to get past 20% on the federal level in terms of what you're taking in.

00:40:21.000 So why aren't they adjusting the way they tax us so that we can keep more of our money since their revenue pretty much won't shift from there?

00:40:27.000 That's a great point.

00:40:28.000 We were talking earlier about the ignorance between how many unarmed black men are killed versus what people think.

00:40:33.000 I was at a party a few years ago.

00:40:33.000 Same thing with taxes.

00:40:35.000 A buddy of mine was celebrating his birthday.

00:40:38.000 I assumed everybody at the party was conservative thinking like I think.

00:40:38.000 He's a Vietnam vet.

00:40:42.000 There's a woman and she started complaining. 0.88

00:40:44.000 Tell me about it.

00:40:46.000 It's always somebody.

00:40:47.000 She was complaining about how rich people didn't pay very much in taxes. 0.99

00:40:50.000 I thought she was joking at first.

00:40:51.000 She kept saying it over and over again.

00:40:52.000 I said, excuse me, I overheard you say rich people don't pay their taxes.

00:40:55.000 I said, I'm probably one of the so-called rich if you define somebody making above $350,000 or more as in the top 1%.

00:41:03.000 I said, I have my 1040 in the car, would you like to see it?

00:41:04.000 She said, no.

00:41:05.000 I said, of all the federal taxes, what percentage do you think is paid by the rich?

00:41:10.000 I said, assume this pie is all the federal taxes, what slice by percentage is paid by the top 1%?

00:41:10.000 She said, what do you mean?

00:41:15.000 She said, oh, I see what you mean, 1%.

00:41:17.000 She said, maybe 2%.

00:41:20.000 Oh my gosh.

00:41:21.000 And shameless, I kept waiting for her to ask me what the answer was.

00:41:24.000 Because she saw my face, I looked appalled like you did.

00:41:27.000 And she never asked.

00:41:28.000 She didn't want to know.

00:41:30.000 And the number is 40% while taking in 15-20% of the nation's income.

00:41:34.000 So if anything, rich people are overtaxed, not undertaxed.

00:41:38.000 But she doesn't want to hear that.

00:41:39.000 When you look at income tax, I think it's what the top 10% pays 90% of the income tax.

00:41:42.000 It's insane!

00:41:42.000 And the bottom 50% pay about 4%.

00:41:43.000 They pay almost nothing.

00:41:47.000 I'm in California.

00:41:47.000 The best part of that story is that you were driving around with your dad.

00:41:50.000 I was like, look, I'll show you.

00:41:51.000 I'm up in a seat.

00:41:52.000 You're like, I have my seat ticked off.

00:41:53.000 You're listening for these kind of complaints like, when can I bring up?

00:41:56.000 I'm in California.

00:41:57.000 When you put in the state income tax, sales tax, property taxes, it is not uncommon for

00:42:02.000 somebody with regular income as opposed to capital gains income being taxed at 60%.

00:42:07.000 Even Bill Maher complained about it one time.

00:42:09.000 When you've lost Bill Maher, then you're probably overtaxing people.

00:42:12.000 And as someone who runs a business myself, when you have to cut that money out of your own bank account rather than having your employer withhold it from you, you start seeing taxes in a little bit of a different way.

00:42:22.000 This is one of these reforms that I know there are probably implications to this that I'm not really exploring by so haphazardly suggesting we do this, but I'm often tempted to say we should make every American person pay their taxes that way.

00:42:35.000 No one should have their taxes upheld by their employer.

00:42:37.000 You should have to pay it in a lump sum so that you see what they're taking from you.

00:42:40.000 I heard Milton Friedman say it was a huge mistake that we have automatic withholding like that.

00:42:44.000 If people really saw what they were being charged for taxes, we would have changes.

00:42:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:42:50.000 I think that's true.

00:42:51.000 I think that's one of the problems some of our systems insulate people or keep people from the realities of what they do.

00:42:58.000 This is one of my favorite tangents of all time, but I really think that we need to breed a culture of responsibility and long-term thinking.

00:43:04.000 I think there are reasons why this tax withholding is It seems nice and somebody else deals with it, but ultimately you vote very differently when you're well informed.

00:43:14.000 This is a theme we keep coming back to tonight.

00:43:16.000 When you're talking to this woman at a dinner party and she says, I don't want to know, it's because that way she doesn't have to change her opinion.

00:43:22.000 She doesn't have to evolve her worldview based on accurate information.

00:43:25.000 And being well-informed brings us to the disaster that we call public education in the inner city.

00:43:31.000 Thirteen public high schools, zero percent of the kids can do math at grade level.

00:43:36.000 Zero.

00:43:37.000 Another half a dozen where one percent can.

00:43:40.000 That's half of all the public high schools in Baltimore, all located in the inner city.

00:43:44.000 The kids are one percent or zero percent math proficient.

00:43:47.000 Chicago, 53 schools, zero percent are math proficient.

00:43:52.000 You can't – and 85% of blacks in the 8th grade, these are 13-year-old kids, can neither do math nor read at grade level, and half of them can't do basic reading, which means you cannot critically think. 1.00

00:44:03.000 And you can be manipulated by emotion.

00:44:04.000 It's scary.

00:44:05.000 It's terrifying!

00:44:07.000 I'll mention this.

00:44:08.000 My father was a public school teacher on the south side of Chicago, and for his entire career he taught, and then towards the end of his career he became a vice principal and then eventually principal.

00:44:16.000 And one thing he would talk about was the fact that when they, as the high school, would get these students from their middle schools, they were so unbelievably far behind that the best they could hope to get them to do was still significantly below where they should be.

00:44:31.000 It's a very sad state of affairs when you look at how broken that system is.

00:44:33.000 And you end up teaching to the curve.

00:44:35.000 Yes.

00:44:35.000 And as a result, everybody else suffers.

00:44:36.000 That's right.

00:44:37.000 Which is why we've got to have vouchers.

00:44:38.000 Yeah, agreed.

00:44:39.000 I was about to ask, what are some solutions to this?

00:44:42.000 Well, yeah, vouchers by far.

00:44:45.000 There was a study done some years ago where government school teachers, which is a term I prefer rather than public school teachers, government school teachers were asked where you send your own school-age kids.

00:44:54.000 Nationwide, 10% of us send our kids to private school.

00:44:57.000 6% of black families do.

00:44:59.000 49% of Philadelphia government school teachers with school-age kids put their own kids in private school.

00:45:02.000 What a shock.

00:45:03.000 Which shows you the people who know the school as the best teachers aren't putting their own kids in it.

00:45:06.000 What does that tell you?

00:45:07.000 When you see how sausages are made, you don't want to feed them to your kid, I guess.

00:45:10.000 The CEO of McDonald's does not let his kid eat McDonald's.

00:45:13.000 The people who run social media companies do not allow their kids to have smartphones.

00:45:17.000 The CEO of McDonald's does not let their kids eat McDonald's?

00:45:19.000 No.

00:45:20.000 Or Pepsi.

00:45:20.000 Same with Pepsi.

00:45:21.000 Really?

00:45:21.000 He said he would never let his kids eat Pepsi.

00:45:23.000 Yep.

00:45:25.000 But it's good enough for your kids.

00:45:26.000 Yes, exactly.

00:45:28.000 And that's one of the massive problems with this country today.

00:45:31.000 We think about what is best for our own families, which is of course what we should be doing, but we don't extend that and say, well, maybe I shouldn't be doing things that would actively harm somebody else's family.

00:45:38.000 Maybe I should actually care about the people around me.

00:45:40.000 I should care about my country.

00:45:41.000 I should care about the national project.

00:45:43.000 Yeah, I think that's true.

00:45:44.000 I think that there is an importance on emphasizing nuclear family in your decisions, but the nuclear family is a building block in a larger sphere, right?

00:45:53.000 So you have your family who's a part of a community and you make choices for your family, but hopefully they positively benefit your community and your community then benefits your state and goes on and on and on.

00:46:05.000 I think it's a mistake to assume that people aren't seeing the consequences of that.

00:46:11.000 You know, I knew someone who when she had her first baby, you know, you have to immediately make a pediatrician appointment. 0.93

00:46:17.000 There's all kinds of things you have to do.

00:46:18.000 And so she asked the nurse in the room who she had a positive experience with, where do you take your kids?

00:46:23.000 I want to go wherever you're taking your kids because you were kind to me.

00:46:27.000 And I know you love your kids, you seem like a devoted mom, and I need help.

00:46:30.000 And I think that's what the culture needs to be.

00:46:32.000 Mutual assistance by knowing that someone who makes good decisions for their own family can recommend and give you advice and guidance when you start your own family.

00:46:39.000 And Clare, there was an article in The Atlantic, which is a left-wing publication a few months ago.

00:46:44.000 I talked about all the different decisions that a young family makes when they're having a baby.

00:46:48.000 And they said the most important decision is whether or not you're able to move into a neighborhood where there are a lot of two-parent households.

00:46:53.000 Even if you move into one and you're a single-parent household, you're going to benefit by the culture.

00:46:57.000 And the reverse, of course, is true, too.

00:46:58.000 You move into a neighborhood where there are a whole bunch of single-parent households, it's going to corrupt the culture.

00:47:05.000 Even just think about, like, I need somebody to babysit my child.

00:47:08.000 I don't have anyone to babysit my child.

00:47:10.000 If you're in a neighborhood with a lot of single parent households, that parent is at

00:47:14.000 work.

00:47:15.000 That kid is probably in daycare.

00:47:16.000 You're not going to have the community that you can rely upon to call on.

00:47:20.000 And I think that that's part of the culture in America has shifted away from that.

00:47:24.000 I feel especially in cities, right?

00:47:26.000 Everyone's bunched up close together, but there's not the same level of connection that

00:47:30.000 you have if you live in an area where it's households on a block.

00:47:33.000 I mean, that's how it was.

00:47:35.000 I grew up in a cul-de-sac, right?

00:47:36.000 We knew our neighbors.

00:47:37.000 We knew all the people that lived on that street.

00:47:39.000 I didn't know what a cul-de-sac was when I grew up.

00:47:41.000 It was called a court, but we called it a cul-de-sac.

00:47:44.000 A group of cul-de-sac.

00:47:45.000 Yes.

00:47:46.000 And you're right.

00:47:47.000 You know, you watch Lever to Beaver.

00:47:49.000 You guys familiar with that?

00:47:50.000 Oh yeah.

00:47:51.000 And there's a dispute between the boys, and the parents would resolve it.

00:47:55.000 The fathers would talk about it.

00:47:56.000 There are no fathers.

00:47:57.000 That's right.

00:47:58.000 No one can say my dad can beat up your dad anymore because there's no dads around.

00:48:02.000 Well, here's another element of this.

00:48:04.000 You're absolutely right.

00:48:04.000 What has happened in media over the past 50 years is progressively we have portrayed fathers in worse light.

00:48:11.000 So whereas in Leave it to Beaver, you had a father who was strong, he was masculine, he was intelligent, he was solving problems for his family.

00:48:18.000 You now have the standard Homer Simpson character portraying fathers in television shows.

00:48:22.000 Don't get me wrong, I love the Simpsons.

00:48:25.000 Yeah, I think it's a hilarious show, but this is a really negative cultural shift, and I believe the reason for this is because when you want to attack an institution, you attack the leader, and the father's the head of the household.

00:48:36.000 I got a question for you guys, since you bring this up.

00:48:38.000 I was talking to a buddy of mine that I work with when I was doing my Epoch Times TV show, and I said, That on commercials that the doofus is always a white guy.

00:48:46.000 Oh always and and he said I never noticed that I said I said look at the commercials the Smart-knowing guy is always a black guy, but the doofus is always a white guy Look at the commercials that Snoop Dogg is doing with what's it? 0.80

00:48:56.000 What's a guy the comedian's name?

00:48:58.000 I'm not sure Corona beer commercials I don't know.

00:49:01.000 I haven't seen those.

00:49:01.000 You're more up on pop culture than us, including our pop culture.

00:49:05.000 I don't watch commercials, remember?

00:49:07.000 Adam Samberg.

00:49:08.000 Andy Samberg.

00:49:10.000 Yeah, and so Snoop is sitting on the beach, and Samberg here, and Snoop is the all-knowing guy, and Samberg's a doof.

00:49:17.000 It happens.

00:49:17.000 I never noticed.

00:49:19.000 So he looks at TV, comes back after a week, he said, you're right.

00:49:21.000 It's every character. 1.00

00:49:22.000 Also, the woman is always a genius and the man's an idiot. 1.00

00:49:25.000 Does that bother you guys? 1.00

00:49:26.000 I'm just wondering.

00:49:26.000 As a white person, are you bothered by that?

00:49:29.000 It bothers me a lot.

00:49:30.000 No, because I'm not racist.

00:49:32.000 No, it bothers me because I also feel like we wouldn't like it for anyone else, right?

00:49:35.000 I don't like it for white people, just like I wouldn't want it for anyone else. 1.00

00:49:38.000 There was a crime show, and I wish I could remember the name.

00:49:40.000 Maybe it's 24.

00:49:42.000 And my brother, you know, we were all home.

00:49:44.000 It was around Christmas time.

00:49:45.000 I was in college.

00:49:46.000 He was like, you guys gotta watch the show.

00:49:47.000 It'll be so fun.

00:49:48.000 We'll all watch it while we wrap presents or do whatever.

00:49:50.000 And After the first two, I was like, hey, I can play this game with you. 0.93

00:49:54.000 I bet the villain is a white man. 0.84

00:49:56.000 I bet the guy making the wine is a white man. 0.95

00:50:00.000 And that is true all over the place.

00:50:02.000 And the thing is, I understand that, especially with crime shows, there is maybe a discomfort in talking about race.

00:50:08.000 It's not that we should harp on anything specifically.

00:50:10.000 But when you see the same person being made the villain all the time, that's disingenuine too. 0.99

00:50:17.000 Well, the truth is that 60% of the robberies, the homicides, and the shootings are done by black people in America. 0.97

00:50:23.000 The guy that does that show cops, he said, I under show black crime because I don't want to push the stereotype. 0.98

00:50:30.000 And he overshows white crime.

00:50:31.000 There was also a study done some years ago that looked at the number of people in late night television who were doctors and lawyers, and the numbers of blacks were overrepresented, and the number of criminals were underrepresented.

00:50:40.000 Yeah, well, they always want to sort of go against the grain with the stereotypes.

00:50:44.000 And, you know, you made this point about white people being overrepresented in these television shows when they portray crime.

00:50:49.000 On the one hand, you can imagine them saying, yes, I want to defy the stereotype. 0.92

00:50:52.000 Yes, I want to show fewer black criminals. 1.00

00:50:54.000 But then it comes at the expense of white people. 0.99

00:50:55.000 Now you're making it seem as if white people are more criminal than the statistics show that they are. 1.00

00:51:00.000 And in terms of this question of Commercials showing white men as idiots and then black men or black women as brilliant and knowing everything. 1.00

00:51:10.000 That certainly annoys me. 1.00

00:51:12.000 It's something that you just get to a point where you don't even think about it because it's so common. 0.99

00:51:16.000 What bothers me even more than that are the commercials, and that does bother me a lot, but what bothers me even more are the commercials where the father's an idiot and the mother's a genius. 0.99

00:51:24.000 Because now you're actually subverting the family unit itself. 0.99

00:51:29.000 You are denigrating the relationship between men and women.

00:51:32.000 I think when you create racial struggles, that's a serious problem.

00:51:34.000 I hate when people in power do that, but there is no greater modern attack than the attack on the family.

00:51:40.000 I think the family structure is really integral to everything that we do.

00:51:44.000 And in some ways, some things we're talking about remind me of this, and I wish I could remember who put it out right now, but that there is a slight trend towards becoming more religious among Gen Z.

00:51:57.000 It's not that they are dominantly religious, but they are just starting to go back to church.

00:52:01.000 They are starting to embrace religion away.

00:52:03.000 And again, especially since we led off with this idea that fewer people believe in God, even people who claim to be Protestants or Catholics, it is interesting that as we watch the family structure for everybody get destroyed, there is a return to search for guidance, for fundamental meaning, for core values.

00:52:21.000 I think that's one of the things that I'm Actually hopeful about in this country.

00:52:25.000 I think there is a desire to find a common value and reestablish who we are even when we are different what we cherish and what we as neighbors know we can expect from our neighbors.

00:52:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:52:36.000 Well, so speaking of some of the issues that we see with respect to the attack on the family this idea that men are idiots the idea that we're a horribly sexist country. 0.96

00:52:43.000 I want to highlight a story from a part of the world where women actually are genuinely treated like garbage in the left almost never seems to do anything to try to stand up for them. 0.96

00:52:52.000 Beauty salon ban in Afghanistan is a blow to women's financial freedom.

00:52:56.000 So this is basically a story about how in Afghanistan, other than the Taliban are in charge, they have officially banned beauty salons for women.

00:53:04.000 They're shutting down businesses that these women have spent their lives building. 1.00

00:53:08.000 We have a story of a 34-year-old mother.

00:53:11.000 of two who's not going to have her business anymore. It really is a sad story. I think as

00:53:17.000 you know an evil pro-man, pro-patriarchy person who thinks that anything that's bad for women is

00:53:22.000 bad for men and anything that's bad for men is bad for women, I gotta say you know I hold very

00:53:27.000 strongly to traditional values. I don't think there's anything against traditional values or

00:53:32.000 traditional sensibilities of wanting women to be able to go to beauty salons.

00:53:35.000 Something like this is just so horrible and senseless.

00:53:37.000 But of course, the only time the left really wants to talk about the condition of women living under theocratic Islamic regimes is when they want to compare themselves to someone because politics in America didn't go their way.

00:53:47.000 They can't even go to school.

00:53:48.000 Where's the squad?

00:53:48.000 Yeah.

00:53:50.000 Where's Ilan Omar?

00:53:51.000 Yep.

00:53:51.000 Where's AOC?

00:53:52.000 I didn't hear any conversation about this today.

00:53:55.000 Ayanna Pressley, where are they?

00:53:56.000 They're nowhere.

00:53:57.000 And it's because there's no consistency in their logic, right?

00:53:59.000 I mean, so we're just pointing out in this article that without these beauty salons, which are women only anyways, because of the culture and the theocratic role in Afghanistan, there are no places where women can publicly assemble without a male chaperone.

00:54:12.000 Like, they can be in their homes and that's it.

00:54:15.000 And women in America believe they are oppressed. 1.00

00:54:18.000 I mean, I just find it deeply ironic and in some ways insensitive, right?

00:54:22.000 The next time they're saying, you know, we're with her, I want to ask you, who is her?

00:54:27.000 That's the worst, terrible grammar.

00:54:29.000 This is relativism because in a lot of ways what it is is you're told here in America,

00:54:34.000 because we focus so much on ideological bounds that are on race, sexuality, and gender, is

00:54:40.000 that stay in your lane.

00:54:41.000 You can't comment on what's going on there because you inherently can't understand their

00:54:45.000 culture and a lot of the people that believe that haven't traveled the world, they haven't

00:54:49.000 been outside the U.S., they have no frame of reference outside of that.

00:54:52.000 So you're just, instead of having the uncomfortable conversation that you might want to criticize something about somebody who might not look like you or might not be from the same place as you, the idea is to just push the can down the road and ignore it, pretend like it's not happening.

00:55:06.000 And Hannah-Claire, this whole business about women in America being oppressed is laughable.

00:55:09.000 Every year that Obama was in office, he would come out and talk about how women make X number of cents on the dollar compared to men.

00:55:09.000 Nonsense.

00:55:19.000 If that were true, you would fire all your men, hire women, and pocket the difference. 0.97

00:55:23.000 There are more women now in college than men. 1.00

00:55:25.000 The numbers of women entering medical school and law school equal the number of men who Graduation stats to graduation stats women live longer. 0.76

00:55:33.000 I mean it 90% of the people behind bars are men.

00:55:35.000 I mean, yeah, we're how where are they oppressed?

00:55:38.000 This is the only instance in history that I'm familiar with of an oppressed class being more likely to win custody battles being more likely to receive more lenient sentencing More likely to vote.

00:55:49.000 More likely to receive a higher education, more likely to be considered for elite programs, such as being admitted into a STEM field based on their application.

00:55:58.000 It's really, man, a difficult kind of oppression.

00:56:00.000 That's oppression.

00:56:01.000 Peel me off some of that.

00:56:02.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:56:03.000 I think that's what the women in Afghanistan would say. 1.00

00:56:06.000 They would say, we want that oppression.

00:56:07.000 We want the Western American oppression. 0.96

00:56:09.000 Thank you.

00:56:10.000 Even so, right, what we have to consider is because of the sexual revolution and modern feminism, and basically the way I've described feminism in the past is it's essentially, especially in the West, a PR campaign for the sexual revolution to try to get women to co-sign their own debasement and debasing.

00:56:30.000 What we've done is we've reduced women to objects in a different way, where now all you exist to do is be sexually appealing to men, and once you've done that, and a human person is just a thing, and their value is merely a product of what they can give you, and a woman is just a sexual object, well, once a man, through surgical intervention, can emulate the secondary sex characteristics of womanhood that you find appealing, now he can be a woman too. 0.68

00:56:57.000 I mean, we lose everything.

00:56:58.000 And Seamus, I think it's also driven by power and by politics.

00:57:00.000 The left convinces women that they are oppressed.

00:57:02.000 It's the same thing as convincing blacks that they're still subject, second-class citizens.

00:57:07.000 It's the same kind of thing. 0.98

00:57:08.000 We are the party wearing the white hat in social justice for women and for minorities, and these guys over here, these dastardly Republicans, they wear the black hat. 0.99

00:57:16.000 The meme, it says like, it says Republicans are racist. 0.95

00:57:20.000 Republicans, if they got to pick the Supreme Court, and it's just all Clarence Thomas, it's just a bunch of Clarence Thomases.

00:57:26.000 It's also like for this topic, I think it's a lot to do with when you take the, when you divide the men and women that way, and you make them, when you make the woman an object, you are now inherently stopping the family from forming, right?

00:57:39.000 So you start, it's just Marxism.

00:57:42.000 It just ends up dividing the family further.

00:57:44.000 It makes us enemies, right?

00:57:45.000 I don't want to live in a world where I don't believe I can live a happy life alongside men, hopefully with a man when I'm married.

00:57:52.000 You know what I mean?

00:57:53.000 I want to believe that we are meant to be complementary and to build each other up through our unique strengths.

00:57:59.000 I don't think that that is the culture that Progressive left.

00:58:04.000 Tells us and I think that's inherently destructive, right?

00:58:07.000 So not only are we destroying the family by separating kids from the parents But we are separating men from women saying you're you guys are actually enemies, right?

00:58:13.000 Especially if you're a man you are the problem and you should help you eat yourself Thus, Benny Thompson, who is the chair of the so-called January 6th Insurrection Committee, can publicly refer to Clarence Thomas as an Uncle Tom. 0.75

00:58:24.000 It's unbelievable.

00:58:26.000 It's unbelievable. 0.91

00:58:27.000 You know, it's so disgusting, this rhetoric that you hear.

00:58:29.000 When people try to pile on somebody because they have the wrong opinion, they belong to some kind of minority group, as happens to you and happens to basically anyone else who speaks out against the left from the vantage point of someone in a group that they quote-unquote represent, they end up being tarred and feathered.

00:58:43.000 And what's so particularly heinous about it is You know, if somebody tells you, as a member of the out group, that they don't like you, so like if a white person says something bad to a black person, or a black person says something bad to a white person, that's bad, but at the very least, there hasn't been this narrative created that, like, your own in-group is rejecting you, your own family, your own friends, people in your community are rejecting you.

00:59:06.000 To tell someone, like, you are actually, you actually don't fit in with the category that you're a part of, is a far worse way of slurring to someone.

00:59:12.000 You've been banished from the village.

00:59:13.000 We were talking about Thomas Sowell earlier.

00:59:16.000 There's a magazine called Ebony Magazine.

00:59:18.000 It comes out once a month.

00:59:19.000 It's not nearly got the clout it used to have, but virtually every black family had it on the coffee table.

00:59:23.000 We did, for decades.

00:59:25.000 And every year they'd have a feature called the 100 Most Influential Black Americans.

00:59:29.000 And every year, absent from that list, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, and even Clarence Thomas.

00:59:34.000 How is that possible?

00:59:35.000 Thomas Sowell has written about 40 books.

00:59:37.000 David Mamet, the playwright, referred to Thomas Sowell as America's greatest contemporary philosopher.

00:59:42.000 Walter Williams is the first, to my knowledge, only chair of an economics department of a non-historically black college, written a number of books.

00:59:49.000 Both Thomas Sowell and he have had hundreds of outlets in their syndicated column, and most black people don't know who the hell they are because they've been banished from the village. 1.00

00:59:55.000 Can I ask, how did your Republican father respond to this?

00:59:58.000 Did he point this out to you?

00:59:59.000 Was this a conversation you had at home?

01:00:01.000 No, and this is just something that I observe.

01:00:03.000 My Republican father said this about Democrats.

01:00:05.000 Democrats want to give you something for nothing.

01:00:07.000 When you try and get something for nothing, you almost always end up getting nothing for something.

01:00:11.000 One of his favorite statements.

01:00:13.000 Speaking of which, in order for me to qualify for that next debate, next month in August, Twenty-third is the debate.

01:00:20.000 I need to have donations from 40,000 individuals.

01:00:23.000 You can donate as little as $1.

01:00:25.000 Just go to my website, larryelderforpresident.com or larryelder.com.

01:00:30.000 This vast audience, $1.

01:00:32.000 Even if you want somebody else to talk about the kinds of things we're talking about, the epidemic of fatherlessness, the lie that America is systemically racist, the need for an amendment to Fixed spending to a certain percentage of the GDP, school choice.

01:00:42.000 I even have a proposed legislation to get rid of these soft-on-crime George Soros-backed DAs.

01:00:47.000 That's great.

01:00:47.000 And that's on my website, larryelder.com.

01:00:49.000 So even if you want somebody else to put those issues front and center, have me up there, hold my beer.

01:00:54.000 So just $1.

01:00:55.000 Just $1!

01:00:56.000 They only have to donate $1 and that's going to help you get on stage.

01:00:59.000 40,000 individual donations.

01:01:00.000 What kind of debate do you want, guys?

01:01:02.000 Do we want an interesting debate?

01:01:03.000 Yeah.

01:01:03.000 Do you want the great Elderski up there or what?

01:01:05.000 The black face of white supremacy? 0.74

01:01:07.000 In the flesh? 0.93

01:01:08.000 Mid-season form?

01:01:10.000 I sent that article to somebody, because there's a lot of people, I still have a lot of friends that are very liberal.

01:01:15.000 I still consider myself fairly liberal on a lot of issues, but I have a lot of friends who just don't know that a lot of this stuff is going.

01:01:20.000 And it took an article about the black face of white supremacy to actually wake somebody up to the absolute ridiculousness of the narrative.

01:01:27.000 And Brett, that was a headline. 0.96

01:01:28.000 It was a headline. 0.94

01:01:29.000 The headline was, Larry Elder is the black face of white supremacy sub-headline. 0.95

01:01:33.000 You've been warned. 0.73

01:01:34.000 Did you frame it?

01:01:35.000 And by the way, the woman that wrote it, her initials are Erica D. Smith.

01:01:37.000 Oops.

01:01:38.000 And I invited her on my radio show when the race was over because I had two months left in my contract and she wouldn't come on. 0.98

01:01:44.000 Oh, what a shock.

01:01:45.000 Well, she can't platform a white supremacist, right? 1.00

01:01:47.000 I have to ask, do you have this framed on your wall?

01:01:49.000 No, but I will.

01:01:50.000 Yeah, you should.

01:01:52.000 I work very hard for that title.

01:01:53.000 Yeah.

01:01:55.000 So when we're talking about the power, I talk a lot about the power of the media and the most powerful thing they can do is not talk about something.

01:02:01.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:02:02.000 We're talking Thomas Sowell.

01:02:04.000 We're talking about the fact that you're saying that almost all these black Americans don't know that Thomas Sowell exists.

01:02:09.000 That's because he's not revered.

01:02:11.000 He's not actually put into the public spotlight by anyone that they would actually watch media from.

01:02:17.000 And all they would have to do is highlight him, highlight his work, but they don't because he doesn't co-sign the narrative.

01:02:23.000 This is a story I don't believe I've ever mentioned publicly.

01:02:25.000 You remind me of it.

01:02:28.000 I had a book, New York Times bestseller book, called The 10 Things You Can't Say in America. 0.98

01:02:32.000 First chapter was blacks are more racist than whites. 1.00

01:02:34.000 Second chapter is white condescension is as bad as black racism. 1.00

01:02:37.000 And another chapter about the war on drugs and about the war on guns. 0.95

01:02:40.000 That first one was a Chris Rock bit. 0.98

01:02:42.000 Well, because he said, but it's because they hate black people too. 0.94

01:02:46.000 So I have a friend who Jesse Jackson does not know is my friend. 0.97

01:02:49.000 And he, my friend used to work for Operation Rainbow Push in Chicago.

01:02:53.000 And he said Jesse Jackson's office had a bunch of books.

01:02:56.000 bookcase behind his desk.

01:02:57.000 But the books on his table are the ones he was really reading.

01:03:01.000 And there was a copy of my book on his table.

01:03:03.000 And I hit Jesse Jackson often in my book.

01:03:07.000 He told me there was a conference call with a bunch of so-called black leaders. 0.95

01:03:11.000 And they said, what are we going to do about this mofo named Larry Elder? 0.97

01:03:15.000 And he said, they all agreed that the smartest strategy was to simply ignore me.

01:03:20.000 And that's what they've done.

01:03:21.000 And I told you all these years, I've tried to get these guys to come on.

01:03:23.000 They won't come on.

01:03:23.000 They simply have ignored me.

01:03:24.000 They won't even mention my name.

01:03:25.000 Yep.

01:03:26.000 And it's made a group decision.

01:03:28.000 It's so creepy.

01:03:32.000 Firstly, just to touch on the fact that Thomas Sowell wasn't mentioned.

01:03:35.000 It's not just like Thomas Sowell is some intellectual who happened to be black.

01:03:41.000 He is one of the best political thinkers today.

01:03:44.000 He's Brilliant.

01:03:45.000 He is.

01:03:45.000 Anyone who's read his work.

01:03:46.000 And he speaks so clearly, too.

01:03:49.000 He's not all over the place.

01:03:51.000 He doesn't have trouble finding his thoughts.

01:03:53.000 He just puts everything out there in a perfectly, like, concise and reasonable way.

01:03:56.000 And everything he's written that I've read has been fantastic, but of course he's ignored because he's coming to conclusions which are very clearly true on a number of things.

01:04:04.000 I don't agree with him on everything, but even when I disagree with him, he makes a remarkable case.

01:04:09.000 It's thoughtful.

01:04:10.000 Maxine Waters.

01:04:11.000 Gloria Allred used to be on my same radio station, and Gloria and I are friends, even though I disagree with everything she says and vice versa.

01:04:17.000 But we're friends.

01:04:18.000 But she would always have Maxine Waters on.

01:04:21.000 And one time I said, Gloria, the next time you have Maxine Waters on, would you ask her why she won't come on Larry Elder's show?

01:04:26.000 She said, sure, I'll ask her.

01:04:27.000 So Gloria's talking to her and then says, Maxine, my friend Larry Elder, my colleague here at KBC radios, wants to know why you won't come on his radio show.

01:04:36.000 Is there some reason why?

01:04:37.000 She goes, well, You know, Gloria, Larry Elder, he's an entertainer.

01:04:42.000 And I don't go on shows as an entertainer.

01:04:43.000 You're not an entertainer, Gloria.

01:04:44.000 You are a serious journalist.

01:04:46.000 And Larry Elder's an entertainer.

01:04:48.000 So I'm not going on his show.

01:04:49.000 Gloria Arwid is a serious journalist? 0.86

01:04:51.000 Okay.

01:04:52.000 Okay.

01:04:53.000 Fair enough.

01:04:54.000 It's all good.

01:04:55.000 Proving you really can't claim.

01:04:57.000 A couple weeks ago, Seamus claimed, despite being a cartoonist... That's right, I decided I'm a journalist.

01:05:00.000 He just announced he was a journalist, and my favorite thing is that he... I identify as a journalist.

01:05:04.000 It's not just that I identify.

01:05:05.000 Here's what I realized, watching media, watching so many journalists today, what the vast majority of people who call themselves journalists do is they just read articles and give you your opinion on them.

01:05:14.000 Which I do almost every day, when I'm podcasting.

01:05:17.000 So I am a journalist.

01:05:18.000 At least you're honest about it.

01:05:19.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:05:21.000 You don't purport to be objective.

01:05:23.000 A journalist purports to be objective.

01:05:25.000 They're not.

01:05:26.000 And I think that's so wrong.

01:05:28.000 I mean, I have an objective.

01:05:29.000 You have an objective like a lot of journalists today, which is actually not what they're supposed to be doing.

01:05:33.000 They're supposed to be giving you the facts.

01:05:34.000 And as we've said a couple times tonight, you know, the need for accurate information and the need for critical thinking is so important.

01:05:41.000 How can you be an active and healthy citizen without those things?

01:05:45.000 But I will say, my favorite part about this was Seamus declared himself a journalist here live on air.

01:05:49.000 That's right.

01:05:50.000 Heterosexual journalists? 0.78

01:05:51.000 Yeah, that's right. 0.77

01:05:51.000 Wow. 0.77

01:05:52.000 I know, there aren't many.

01:05:53.000 There aren't a lot.

01:05:54.000 And then put it in his Twitter bio and then later told me he did an interview in which the person then was like reading his Twitter bio and being like... I think, no, I think she was in on the joke.

01:06:02.000 Okay, I don't know.

01:06:03.000 But she was like, joining us tonight is journalist and cartoonist Shayna Thomas.

01:06:06.000 Okay, so I'm officially a journalist.

01:06:08.000 Yeah, she was in on it but I'm recognized by television.

01:06:12.000 I just think that is so funny because really, like, what makes you a journalist?

01:06:16.000 I thought it was being accurate and trying to be fair in your reporting but perhaps I am wrong.

01:06:20.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:06:20.000 It's one of these words that has no meaning anymore, but I'm a journalist, so please respect that.

01:06:23.000 When me and you went to March for Life and we did... I actually did do journalism!

01:06:28.000 I said, and I said, I'm now an on-the-ground journalist.

01:06:31.000 That's right.

01:06:32.000 We're journalists, dude.

01:06:33.000 We're both journalists at this point.

01:06:34.000 Yeah, now we are.

01:06:35.000 That's remarkable.

01:06:35.000 It's interesting how one becomes a journalist.

01:06:38.000 George Stephanopoulos used to work for Bill Clinton.

01:06:39.000 He was his communications director.

01:06:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:41.000 And ABC News hires him, and they say he's not going to do any political stuff.

01:06:46.000 And then he started doing political stuff, and now he's evolved.

01:06:48.000 He's now their chief news anchor.

01:06:50.000 How did that happen?

01:06:51.000 How does somebody who's a partisan for Bill Clinton, wanted big health care, big taxes, all the stuff that the left wants, now all of a sudden he's evolved to be a chief news anchor of ABC News?

01:07:04.000 Hmm.

01:07:05.000 So there was a really great quote, you know, Chomsky's not my favorite in the world, but he had this really great moment on television decades ago.

01:07:13.000 Where he was talking to a reporter, they were interviewing him about his book, and they said to him, he was basically explaining that media outlets will only forward certain people who have a specific set of values that line up with the networks, and the journalist becomes a little bit indignant, and they said, are you accusing me of not being sincere in my values?

01:07:32.000 And Chomsky says, no, I believe you are sincere.

01:07:35.000 What I'm telling you is, you wouldn't have this job if you weren't.

01:07:39.000 You wouldn't have this job if you didn't have those values, right?

01:07:41.000 If you toe the right line, you're way more likely to rise to the top.

01:07:44.000 This is what we were saying earlier.

01:07:46.000 I mean, if you're a right-wing person who works at a left-wing outlet, you're gonna keep your head down.

01:07:50.000 And I gotta be honest with people.

01:07:52.000 You might wanna say, I can be conservative at one of these organizations and keep my head down.

01:07:55.000 You either live what you believe or you believe what you live.

01:07:58.000 At some point you're going to be insimilated.

01:08:00.000 They say you are a combination of the five people you spend the most time with.

01:08:05.000 Gotta be careful.

01:08:05.000 Gotta be out about your values.

01:08:07.000 There really aren't that many wise things that John Lennon said, but there is one wise thing he did say.

01:08:13.000 He said, always tell the truth.

01:08:15.000 You won't always make friends, but you will make the right ones.

01:08:18.000 I think that's completely spot on.

01:08:19.000 This is what conservatives have to be more open doing.

01:08:22.000 So you didn't agree with Imagine There's No Property?

01:08:25.000 Believe it or not, when a rich guy said Imagine There's No Property... It bothers me so much that that song is replacing Auld Lang Syne as the New Year's Eve anthem.

01:08:35.000 Is it?

01:08:36.000 If you listen to it, it's the first thing they play after the Times Square ball drop.

01:08:36.000 Yeah!

01:08:41.000 But it didn't used to be like that.

01:08:42.000 They used to play it before, whatever.

01:08:44.000 Now, instead of playing Auld Lang Syne, they play Imagine.

01:08:46.000 That's creepy!

01:08:47.000 That's because John Hinckley did shoot Ronald Reagan.

01:08:50.000 Was that it?

01:08:50.000 Imagine?

01:08:51.000 Now it's because Gal Gadot did that video where she sang it on air during COVID.

01:08:55.000 I'm sorry, it was Mark David Chapman, right?

01:08:57.000 Yeah, that's the one.

01:08:57.000 Possibly, yeah.

01:08:58.000 Mark David Chapman who shot Lennon. 0.79

01:08:59.000 He thought Lennon was a hypocrite because of his wealth, but had a song called Imagine. 0.76

01:09:03.000 There's no The thing is, yeah, John Lennon could have easily imagined no possessions if he gave his away, but none of these socialists do. 0.69

01:09:12.000 It's remarkable.

01:09:13.000 I mean, that's a perfect example of great Hollywood propaganda, right?

01:09:16.000 To the average person, it's just a person that likes it.

01:09:18.000 It's just a song.

01:09:20.000 But if you look deeper into the meaning, you understand that these motives, these objectives, especially in Hollywood, in music and entertainment, go long past what we're experiencing now.

01:09:29.000 This is not a new thing.

01:09:30.000 These values have been part of these industries for decades upon decades.

01:09:33.000 And this is how we ring in the New Year in America.

01:09:36.000 Like, everyone should freak out about this!

01:09:38.000 I forget to make this claim every year.

01:09:39.000 And didn't George Harrison have a song called Tax Man where he attacked Texas?

01:09:42.000 I think so.

01:09:42.000 I'm pretty sure he did.

01:09:43.000 Yes, I think he did.

01:09:44.000 Yeah, I do remember that.

01:09:46.000 Well, we've got another story here queued up.

01:09:49.000 The DOJ is going to sue Texas over Governor Abbott's floating wall and razor wire along the Rio Grande.

01:09:57.000 The Justice Department notified Texas that it plans to file a lawsuit over the latest tactic in Operation Lone Star, Governor Greg Abbott's controversial border security initiative, a legal challenge welcomed by Abbott.

01:10:09.000 TPR confirmed on Friday that the Justice Department sent a letter to Abbott's office outlining that Abbott's floating border barrier in the Rio Grande violates federal law, raises humanitarian concerns, and is a threat to public safety and the environment.

01:10:24.000 Okay, so...

01:10:26.000 They don't mention the fentanyl coming in from.

01:10:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:29.000 They don't mention the tens of thousands of children left unaccounted for at the border.

01:10:35.000 I mean, when you want to talk about a humanitarian crisis... You can't get everything in, Seamus.

01:10:42.000 And I'd like to ask you this because you do know the law.

01:10:44.000 Not to put you on the spot, if you don't know the specifics of this, that's fine, but I'm curious if you think there's really a case here.

01:10:49.000 I don't.

01:10:50.000 One of the Limited duties of government is to deal with immigration. 1.00

01:10:53.000 Federal government is not doing that.

01:10:55.000 If anybody should be suing anybody, Texas ought to be suing the DOJ.

01:10:58.000 Amen.

01:10:59.000 That's why we just have to ship more bus loads up to these blue states and then maybe they'll sue the DOJ. 1.00

01:11:03.000 You heard what the mayor of New York just now said.

01:11:06.000 We've had too many.

01:11:07.000 That's right.

01:11:08.000 We're no longer a sanctuary city.

01:11:10.000 And then I said, imagine no borders.

01:11:12.000 I said, imagine no countries.

01:11:13.000 Why don't you let them in?

01:11:14.000 No religion too.

01:11:15.000 This is one of my favorite facts of American politics that has become far more clear over the past few years, but when you place left-wing people in the circumstances that conservatives have been in for decades, they magically have this epiphany and begin to develop conservative perspectives.

01:11:34.000 Part of what was so strategically brilliant about these governors and border states shipping these migrants off to The problem with the blue states is they forced them to make our arguments. 0.76

01:11:48.000 There's too many people.

01:11:49.000 We can't support everyone who wants to enter this country. 1.00

01:11:52.000 We don't have the resources to take care of them.

01:11:54.000 Okay, if you in New York City don't have the resources to take care of these people, what about a poor border town in Texas?

01:11:59.000 Are you on your mind?

01:11:59.000 Yeah.

01:12:00.000 You know, there was a study done by the Civil Rights Commission some years ago, and the group most hurt by illegal aliens are black and brown people living in the inner city, those with high school or less education, because virtually all of the illegal aliens have very little education.

01:12:13.000 There are about a million fewer blacks who are working because of the presence of illegal alien labor, and the presence of illegal alien labor puts downward pressure to the tune of almost $2,000 per year on the salaries of people living in the inner city.

01:12:24.000 So once again, the people who are most likely to vote Democrat, the ones on the left, claim that they care about black and brown people are the ones most hurt.

01:12:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:12:33.000 It's crazy to me that the DOJ is upset because Greg Abbott says, hey, we're going to put up a barrier here because you're not supposed to enter illegally.

01:12:41.000 And by the way, swimming across the Rio Grande is incredibly dangerous, so we should not be incentivizing it as a way for people to enter this country illegally anyways.

01:12:50.000 But that doesn't matter, right?

01:12:51.000 It's a humanitarian crisis that That Greg Abbott is standing in the way of floods of illegal migrations, which apparently Democratic parties benefit from.

01:13:00.000 And I think you're totally right to bring up the fact that they continuously fail to advertise the cost and who is truly impacted by this.

01:13:08.000 I have said over and over again that not only are illegal immigrants themselves, especially people who are trafficked across the border, Abuse and hurt in the process, but also every community every person affected by this pays a price that when we say But it's just mean you can't put a wall there.

01:13:23.000 You can't put floating buoys in the water Democrats used to agree with you.

01:13:28.000 I put on my my website a montage.

01:13:31.000 I did some years ago of Bill Clinton Barack Obama Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, all talking about the damage done by unfettered illegal immigration.

01:13:43.000 Harry Reid even used the word illegal alien.

01:13:47.000 It was a border fence.

01:13:48.000 They all used to say this, and then they did a 180 when they realized that the votes were among Hispanics, and they figured that at some point, by letting a bunch of illegal aliens in, there'd be enough pressure to put on to make them residents and then citizens, and then they would vote Democrat. 0.53

01:14:03.000 If legal aliens turn residents, turn voters, would vote Republican, we would not be having this conversation. 0.98

01:14:08.000 Well, and not only that, but when they go to places that tend to vote blue, they artificially inflate representation there.

01:14:14.000 The pollsters say there are more people there, so that they have to, you know, increase their seats.

01:14:18.000 But I also want to mention this horrible, horrible term you used, illegal alien.

01:14:22.000 Don't you know that the preferred term is friend we haven't made yet?

01:14:26.000 What you said is true because they point that out about Cuban immigrants and people who come over from Cuba that who they know have a tendency not to vote in the same way because they came from a socialist country and so they don't play to that demographic the same way they do those at the Texas border.

01:14:42.000 Wasn't there, I might be misremembering, but there was this wet foot, dry foot policy that actually made it more difficult for people who entered the nation on rafts, basically.

01:14:54.000 You know, people who came from Cuba to enter.

01:14:56.000 That's kind of interesting.

01:14:58.000 There's a complete bias there.

01:14:59.000 And what I find, like, Just totally disturbing as, I mean, first off, we have to acknowledge that Greg Abbott responds with, Texas has the sovereignty to enforce border security.

01:15:10.000 Yeah.

01:15:10.000 And I have to, you know, you can criticize Greg Abbott for a lot of things, but I really like that he has made this a priority for his administration.

01:15:18.000 I like that he is willing to make bold choices.

01:15:22.000 Again, with the busing, everyone can accuse him of theatrics.

01:15:25.000 I think it's good.

01:15:26.000 I think everyone should be aware of what's going on.

01:15:28.000 And, you know, one of the strangest things that's happened to me since I began working in conservative media is I think Instagram figured it out, even though my Instagram is very, you know, just personal and not political at all.

01:15:39.000 It started sending me videos that some of the border chiefs take and post on their social media platforms and the just obvious traffic that goes through that area.

01:15:50.000 The obvious destruction that comes through is something that I wish more people talked about.

01:15:56.000 I didn't seek that out.

01:15:57.000 Instagram has identified me as a conservative.

01:15:59.000 They have figured it out.

01:16:00.000 But it is interesting to me that you won't see that reality portrayed.

01:16:07.000 I mean, the obvious case of this is with the group of Haitian migrants who are under the bridge and trying to cross.

01:16:14.000 And Alexander Mayorkas reprimanded The border patrol officers who were on horseback saying they whipped them, they did this, they did that.

01:16:21.000 They didn't.

01:16:21.000 And they didn't.

01:16:22.000 They got proved.

01:16:23.000 It was nonsense.

01:16:24.000 And Mayorkas is still in office letting our border policy continue and also not standing by the agents who are doing their best given the limited resources that they have, considering the federal government consistently undermines states that are trying to be proactive like Texas.

01:16:38.000 And the difference between Democrats, that I assembled in that montage, who were complaining about illegal immigration 20 years ago, and now, the average illegal immigrant coming from the southern border was a Mexican on foot coming across the border.

01:16:50.000 Now, 100% of them pretty much are paying cartels.

01:16:53.000 Yeah, well, and not only that, the majority of people who are being trafficked across the border are not Mexican.

01:17:00.000 I was having a conversation with Jenny Terror about this, who's a reporter and journalist, an actual one, who's gone down to the border several times.

01:17:06.000 What she told me is that, this is her, she said she has not spoken to a single Mexican the entire time she's been down there.

01:17:13.000 Now I understand that that's anecdotal, that's the experience of one journalist, but statistically the majority of them are not from Mexico.

01:17:18.000 No, I was going to point out our own show, I'm going to cite ourselves, citing the Los Angeles Times, when the fourth bus of migrants arrived in LA this week from Texas, the majority were from Venezuela.

01:17:29.000 This is not a fair to anyone. Which is weird because socialism is great.

01:17:32.000 I thought we love socialism. No one can explain it. Well they're here to evangelize about

01:17:36.000 socialism. Did they listen to the Imagine song over there? They heard it. Yeah. No I mean I just

01:17:41.000 think that immigration is one of these issues that I'm so glad that more people are talking about because

01:17:47.000 again it's the the fact that the DOJ looks at Texas putting up a floating buoy wall the kind

01:17:52.000 that you would see like if you were swimming at a lake and they're saying don't go too far.

01:17:55.000 Super racist.

01:17:57.000 They're saying that they are trying to deter people from illegally entering the country, which, by the way, they are risking their lives.

01:18:02.000 They're being put into horrible situations.

01:18:04.000 The humanitarian crisis is Texas trying to stop this, and not the idea that That anyone is willing to take children and do this, take this journey, is crazy to me.

01:18:14.000 When Biden got elected, ABC's Martha Raddatz interviewed this guy who had just come across the border.

01:18:20.000 And she said to him, would you have tried this if President Trump had gotten reelected?

01:18:23.000 He said no.

01:18:24.000 Of course not!

01:18:25.000 Of course not!

01:18:25.000 And she was shocked!

01:18:27.000 She said, really?

01:18:27.000 She said, yes, Biden has given us permiso.

01:18:30.000 She was shocked.

01:18:31.000 Who's not going to try this?

01:18:32.000 Are you kidding?

01:18:33.000 Yeah, of course not.

01:18:34.000 People respond to incentives.

01:18:36.000 When the laws are being enforced, people are less likely to break them.

01:18:39.000 Isn't that wild?

01:18:40.000 One of the statistics that Republicans quote a lot, especially when Andy Briggs Biggs entered the motion to impeach Mayorkas a little bit earlier this year.

01:18:50.000 One of the statistics that comes up is the number of people who are on the FBI's most wanted list who are apprehended at the border.

01:18:56.000 And they're saying there are more people apprehended at the border on the FBI most wanted list under Biden.

01:19:01.000 And that sounds a little weird, like they're doing a better job of catching them.

01:19:03.000 No, it's because under Trump, they didn't come near the border.

01:19:06.000 There's way more.

01:19:06.000 That's right.

01:19:07.000 Way more.

01:19:08.000 They do things like this.

01:19:09.000 Those are the ones they caught.

01:19:10.000 Exactly.

01:19:11.000 They also do things where they'll say like, oh, Barack Obama actually stopped more people from crossing the border than Bush did.

01:19:16.000 That's not true.

01:19:17.000 They just redefined what it meant to stop somebody at the border under the Obama administration.

01:19:21.000 And they had, what was it, Title 42, where there were all sorts of issues related to COVID that we ended up terminating because the Biden administration took away and then had to put it back.

01:19:21.000 Sure.

01:19:29.000 I mean, I think the immigration issue is just It's profound.

01:19:34.000 It really affects our country.

01:19:35.000 I was wondering if you want to talk a little bit more about your stance as a potential president.

01:19:40.000 Yeah, I was going to ask you.

01:19:41.000 Are you looking to restrict any legal immigration?

01:19:43.000 I would put back the Trump policies that gave us the most secure border we've ever had, the stay in Mexico policy.

01:19:48.000 I would stop catch and release.

01:19:49.000 I would apprehend and put in confinement the people who are crossing the border illegally because that's the only way you can deport them. 1.00

01:19:56.000 Once you put them in the interior, they're going to stay forever.

01:20:00.000 But yeah, we need temporary workers, if they're truly temporary, and there are some high-skilled workers that we need, but we should determine the number, the amount, and how long they stay.

01:20:10.000 So can I ask you something, just related not necessarily to illegal immigration, but your own policies?

01:20:16.000 What would be your administration's priority?

01:20:18.000 What's the first thing that you would do if you were elected?

01:20:21.000 First thing I would do is to stop this war on oil and gas, allow drilling on federal properties, and I would finish the wall and again reverse the anti-Trump policies that Biden has implemented.

01:20:34.000 Those are the first couple things I would do.

01:20:36.000 Yeah, you don't want to keep the shipping containers that they have in Arizona.

01:20:40.000 Actually, they made Doug Ducey take them down, right?

01:20:42.000 These gaps in the walls that he creatively built.

01:20:45.000 How did the catch-and-release policies affect the migrants that were brought in and then bused to other states, bused to blue states?

01:20:53.000 Nothing.

01:20:53.000 I mean, once you're here, there's no way to get you out, unless you're willing to go door-to-door and drag people out.

01:20:58.000 And of course, the media images will be such that the NAACP, I mean, the ACLU will sue you once they are here.

01:21:05.000 They're going to go to their court date to sign six years from now.

01:21:08.000 They have a court date, and you're supposed to show up.

01:21:12.000 And if you don't, nothing happens.

01:21:13.000 That's wild.

01:21:14.000 And that's the thing, I tend to agree with you.

01:21:16.000 People will say we can't do deportations, they're so horrible.

01:21:18.000 I agree, it's an ugly thing.

01:21:20.000 That's why we need a very strong border, so that we can minimize the number of deportations necessary.

01:21:24.000 Would you agree with ending birthright citizenship?

01:21:28.000 Because it incentivizes legal immigration?

01:21:29.000 I don't believe that the 14th Amendment ever really conferred birthright citizenship.

01:21:33.000 It's the way the Supreme Court has interpreted it, or the way we think the Supreme Court has interpreted it.

01:21:36.000 But the drafter of that wanted to make sure that blacks, newly freed blacks, were treated equally.

01:21:41.000 It was not designed to say, if you come here illegally, drop a kid, that kid is an American citizen.

01:21:45.000 It was not designed for that at all.

01:21:46.000 Yeah.

01:21:47.000 I think these are all interesting reforms.

01:21:49.000 I wonder if you would want to expand a little more on potentially capping legal immigration.

01:21:53.000 You were mentioning that skilled workers, but maybe... Right.

01:21:56.000 I don't have a number in mind, but the point is there are workers who have skills that we don't have.

01:22:01.000 Science, technology, engineering, math kinds of people.

01:22:04.000 And I have no problem with having a certain number of H-1B visas provided they're temporary.

01:22:10.000 In certain fields, agriculture, where there's work that people will do at prices that we're unwilling to pay, and it's seasonal, we should be able to do that and make sure that people go back.

01:22:21.000 Yeah, that's interesting.

01:22:22.000 I find H1B visas such an interesting area because, you know, I've heard, I've talked to a lot of young Democrats, actually, who talk about brain drain in the States.

01:22:31.000 And I feel like we have a responsibility to acknowledge that when we incentivize, you know, another country's best and brightest away and don't encourage them to return, we are actually doing that country a disservice.

01:22:41.000 Well, our job is to do America a service, not to worry about other countries.

01:22:46.000 I'm an America first guy.

01:22:48.000 But we would not need to import these kinds of people if we were doing a better job K-12. 0.96

01:22:52.000 Yeah, I mean, and that's absolutely correct.

01:22:55.000 People will talk often about the fact that we're effectively importing In underclass, we're bringing people in who have no skills to have them do jobs that Americans aren't unwilling to do but would do if they paid a more decent wage. 0.95

01:23:07.000 And what people don't want to acknowledge is that it's also the case that when you're importing people with H-1Bs, I think sometimes that can be good, but what we should want is for our country to produce citizens who are capable of doing those jobs. 0.97

01:23:23.000 And we shouldn't use H-1B visas as a means to get rid of people who are doing the jobs just to pay the workers coming in less money.

01:23:31.000 Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

01:23:32.000 Less exploitation.

01:23:33.000 So, where are your stances on some of the other hot-button issues right now?

01:23:38.000 How do you feel?

01:23:39.000 I think I can probably make some guesses.

01:23:41.000 I know you're more conservative, but when it comes to like the LGBTQ lobby or your stance on abortion or a federal abortion ban, where would you put yourself?

01:23:49.000 Well, on abortion, I am pro-life, but it's an issue that should be determined by the states the way it was until 1973 when the Supreme Court took up Roe v. Wade.

01:23:59.000 Every state will determine its own path.

01:24:01.000 I think our side falls down.

01:24:03.000 We don't put the other side on the spot and ask them, At what point do you believe a pregnancy has gone so far that to terminate it would become a murder?

01:24:10.000 I tried to get Gavin Newsom to answer that question.

01:24:12.000 Nobody would answer it.

01:24:13.000 I was called an extremist.

01:24:16.000 And Bernie Sanders, however, in one of the debates did say, it's up to a woman to choose.

01:24:20.000 It's insanity.

01:24:20.000 Really?

01:24:21.000 A moment before birth?

01:24:23.000 So that guy who's behind bars in Philadelphia, Dr. Kermit Gosnell, should be free?

01:24:27.000 Because remember that guy that was prosecuted for performing late-term abortions?

01:24:30.000 I guess he's been persecuted.

01:24:31.000 He's a political prisoner.

01:24:32.000 He should be let go.

01:24:34.000 The left has never put the task on giving us a definition at what point do they feel pregnancy has gone so far.

01:24:40.000 I also think though, Seamus, that the pro-life people have not only talked the talk, they've walked the walk.

01:24:47.000 There are thousands of pregnancy centers all over the country with resources for education, And for job training, and there are probably 35 couples for every one baby willing to adopt.

01:24:59.000 So, the resources are there.

01:25:01.000 Women have other choices, and we should make it clear to them that they do have another choice other than to have an abortion. 1.00

01:25:06.000 You're absolutely correct that there are more couples on the waiting list to adopt than there are unplanned pregnancies in the US each year.

01:25:11.000 When you look at the statistics on women who have abortion, they often say it's because they didn't think there was any other option or anyone willing to help them.

01:25:17.000 Again, that's not an excuse, but it just goes to show That if we have these resources for them, if we let them know that life was an option, then they'd be willing to choose it.

01:25:24.000 I will disagree with you on one thing.

01:25:25.000 I do believe in a federal abortion ban.

01:25:27.000 I think we have to protect life in all cases, in all states.

01:25:31.000 To me, it's hypocritical for me to for years say that Roe v. Wade never should have been taken up, that the Supreme Court never should have found invalid every single abortion law of all the other states to make this a federal issue, and then to say, on the other hand, Roe v. Wade is overturned, now let's have a federal bill.

01:25:46.000 Ronald Reagan was at least Principally consistent when he said that he was going to push for an amendment to ban abortion Yeah, that would be something that would would be consistent legally.

01:25:55.000 He didn't do it, but he said he would do that Yeah, that's something I would like.

01:25:59.000 So, my position is not that Roe v. Wade was necessarily bad because it overturned every state's laws.

01:26:03.000 I do think that is a negative about it, but primarily because it allowed for unborn children to be killed in the United States.

01:26:10.000 Well, they already were.

01:26:11.000 Yes, in certain states.

01:26:13.000 In New York, California.

01:26:14.000 In fact, where the majority of women lived, there was pretty much abortion on demand even before Roe v. Wade. 1.00

01:26:20.000 Yeah, no, that's correct.

01:26:21.000 That's correct.

01:26:22.000 And I would still see that as an evil.

01:26:24.000 I love that you brought up the pregnancy centers, if I can just interject here.

01:26:27.000 A couple of weeks ago I read an article about how Yelp in particular, this is in the wake of Roe, was specifically flagging pregnancy centers.

01:26:35.000 So centers that offer, like you're mentioning, health care services, they don't offer abortion, they might talk to you about adoption as an option, they might talk to you about job training, other kinds of support.

01:26:44.000 Yelp was in particular trying to warn people that this is not what you're looking for.

01:26:50.000 and they were trying to make sure that they could distinguish between them.

01:26:50.000 Absolutely.

01:26:52.000 And I find that to be somewhat sad, right?

01:26:55.000 I feel as though we should always encourage women to know that there are other options.

01:26:59.000 I personally feel like there's a lot to be said for foster care reform in this country.

01:27:03.000 But like you're saying, it's not that there are spaces in homes where people are willing to foster,

01:27:07.000 it's that there are couples willing to adopt.

01:27:09.000 Are there changes that could be made to the adoption process?

01:27:12.000 Well, adoption is hard because foster care ultimately, the aim of foster care is to reunite children

01:27:19.000 with their parents, right?

01:27:20.000 And I think that's honorable and I think that's good.

01:27:22.000 I think we also can agree that there are some people who just, through the circumstances of their lives, the positions they're in, are not capable of raising their children and that those children deserve to be with loving, stable parents who can give them as much as possible.

01:27:33.000 So it's a really tricky conversation because I would never This is a conversation that I had with a lot of libertarians as I was combing through my philosophy because, you know, I don't want the state to tell me how to parent.

01:27:44.000 On the other hand, I think we can all look at some circumstances and say, you should not have your children.

01:27:48.000 I mean, there are enough terrible cases of fatal abuse of children that I don't need to give you an example, right?

01:27:57.000 Like, we know this happens.

01:27:59.000 And how we navigate that as a culture and society.

01:28:01.000 For me, it's small scale.

01:28:02.000 You need to have communities that are responsible for what's going on there.

01:28:05.000 But that also means you have to know your neighbors and you have to know your values.

01:28:09.000 Adoption, you know, I don't know if you want to jump in here, but adoption doesn't necessarily, it's not necessarily an easy path.

01:28:16.000 I just think it's something that more people should consider.

01:28:19.000 And I think especially for women who are in a position if they're not ready to raise a

01:28:22.000 child that, you know, number one, really is that are you not wanting to but you are capable

01:28:30.000 of it?

01:28:31.000 And also, what are your options?

01:28:33.000 Because there is probably someone who would be willing to do that.

01:28:34.000 And there are a lot of couples that simply cannot conceive, a lot of them.

01:28:38.000 I was campaigning in Iowa recently and there was an elderly couple and I started talking

01:28:43.000 to them and asking what they did and I asked them if they had children and she said no,

01:28:48.000 He said no.

01:28:49.000 And I said, if you don't mind my asking, may I ask you why?

01:28:53.000 And she said, he couldn't get me pregnant.

01:28:55.000 He's sitting there, he goes, put it all on him!

01:28:59.000 And I said, did you guys consider adoption?

01:29:01.000 And they said, we considered it, we decided against it, but looking back at it, we wish we had.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, it's such a sad thing, too, because now you have so many people doing in vitro, which requires for you to create new life that ends up being destroyed in the process, when there are so many children who need a home.

01:29:15.000 I mean, there's so many children out there who could have a family, who could have a loving childhood if they were adopted, and you can make the argument that there are some people who might adopt that child and their life might be less than ideal.

01:29:25.000 Sure, but they're alive.

01:29:26.000 They haven't been killed.

01:29:28.000 We're also moving towards designer pregnancies with surrogacy and things like that.

01:29:33.000 So I have an article up on Timcast right now because I just could not write it because

01:29:38.000 Sofia Vergara, the Modern Family actress, announced that she's getting divorced.

01:29:42.000 And I can't see her without thinking about the article her ex, Nick Slob wrote about

01:29:47.000 his battle to gain, essentially, custody, although embryos are treated like property,

01:29:52.000 of the frozen embryos that they had created together, that she said, you know, I don't

01:29:56.000 want children out there with my DNA that I'm not raising. 0.66

01:29:58.000 I don't want you to raise them.

01:29:59.000 And I don't want to be reclassified as an egg donor.

01:30:01.000 And so those frozen embryos are still on ice and they exist.

01:30:06.000 They are, you know, it's a really I summarized in the article.

01:30:10.000 You should all check it out on TimCast.com because it's great.

01:30:13.000 No, but I mean part of it is the argument around when does life begin and also if you made an agreement.

01:30:19.000 So one of the things I found interesting, maybe you can comment on this, is they had to sign a contract saying they would They were always going to use a surrogate and they were going to mutually consent to have these children born into the world.

01:30:33.000 But there wasn't a contingency as apparently is required by California state law.

01:30:37.000 I'm not a legal expert.

01:30:38.000 I can't speak to this.

01:30:40.000 For them, they were supposed to make a plan for what happens if they split up and they did not.

01:30:44.000 So he wanted the contract voided.

01:30:45.000 Was the contract executed in California?

01:30:47.000 I believe so.

01:30:48.000 So it's an invalid contract now?

01:30:49.000 They ruled, the California judge ruled in her favor.

01:30:52.000 They said that he was aware of this agreement that they agreed to mutually bring the children into the world.

01:30:58.000 So therefore the fact they broke up is irrelevant.

01:31:00.000 This is what we call a man-made horror beyond our comprehension.

01:31:03.000 This stuff is just, it's insane.

01:31:04.000 You're seeing it with celebrities now.

01:31:06.000 It's not even because of an inability to get pregnant.

01:31:09.000 It's that they don't want to damage their body and they want to, the women don't want the stretch marks. 1.00

01:31:13.000 They don't want to go through the process of birth.

01:31:15.000 And then there's stories of celebrities who are then saying after the fact, Shockingly, I had a hard time connecting with my child after they were born because they didn't actually go through the process of giving birth to the baby.

01:31:27.000 Well, it's not just that.

01:31:28.000 I mean, there are people who adopt children, and I know people who've adopted children, and what I will say is I can't tell you the statistics on how often they bond, but I would argue it probably happens often.

01:31:40.000 I would imagine they bond pretty well because when you adopt a child, that's a choice that is made selflessly.

01:31:45.000 Right?

01:31:46.000 Whereas there is, and look, I know there are a lot of people I've spoken to and known who have done in vitro and done surrogacies, and I want everyone who hears me saying this, who's done that, to understand, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with your child.

01:32:01.000 I'm glad your child is in the world.

01:32:03.000 If somebody is the victim of abuse and they become pregnant, I think the abuse was wrong, but I'm glad that that child exists, right? 0.99

01:32:09.000 So I don't hate you.

01:32:10.000 I don't hate your child, but I really think it's wrong.

01:32:13.000 And I think ultimately it is a selfish decision that results in human life being destroyed.

01:32:18.000 And also it, in some sense, makes it less, it makes it more difficult for children who you could have adopted, who could have had a home, who could have had a loving family to end up seeing that home because one was made in a Petri dish instead.

01:32:31.000 Yeah, well and I'll say from the research I've done with adoption and the interviews I've listened to with people who adopt, part of it is they know they're adopting.

01:32:38.000 They know this child comes from different circumstances.

01:32:40.000 Maybe the child is, you know, adopted to them right from the hospital.

01:32:44.000 Maybe this child has, you know, been in the world for a little while and they intentionally cultivate relationships and they, you know, some people talk about like cocooning.

01:32:53.000 They'll specifically spend a lot of time as a nuclear family letting this child adjust to it before they venture out into the world. 0.58

01:33:00.000 And, you know, I can't say for sure but maybe with surrogacy some people expect because it is your tissue that you'll have that experience.

01:33:06.000 And I think pregnancy is a very unique experience and I think also that's one of the beautiful things about adoption that people intentionally go into knowing that they are going to maybe have to put a little more work in but the bonding and love can be just as real.

01:33:20.000 Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.

01:33:21.000 There is something insane about the idea that there are women that make a career now out of, you know, being surrogates, right? 0.96

01:33:28.000 You can't imagine.

01:33:29.000 Because they get paid for it.

01:33:30.000 Yeah, like Kim Kardashian or something underpaid her surrogate or something like that.

01:33:36.000 Like, and you just think about that.

01:33:38.000 And this is a woman who said she's done it multiple times.

01:33:40.000 And you're just like, that's where we are.

01:33:42.000 Well, she used the same surrogate. 0.99

01:33:43.000 What's the going rate?

01:33:44.000 I don't even know what it was, but the fact that there's a going rate at all... I've seen it, no, I've seen some of the numbers, it's like, and it's, look, there is no amount of money, there's no amount of money that makes that worth it, but I've seen some statistics that say like $30,000 for a breakfast.

01:33:56.000 Less than that!

01:33:57.000 Plus other things, right, so they'll cover your health care, they'll give you extra money for food.

01:34:01.000 If you're Kim Kardashian's, you're probably also paying for her silence, that sounds a little odd, but like you're paying her not to go to the media and be like, I'm Kim Kardashian's surrogate.

01:34:09.000 Well, since men can get pregnant, I guess it's a job that men can do too. 0.98

01:34:13.000 It's so, I mean, the whole situation's so sad.

01:34:16.000 This is what we forget.

01:34:17.000 This is part of why a country like this, a free nation, a nation with a market system, can only function with a virtuous population.

01:34:24.000 There are some things you cannot sell.

01:34:26.000 There are some things you should not be able to sell.

01:34:28.000 This is one of those things.

01:34:29.000 Imagine the trauma that a person goes through giving birth for a child just to give it away for money, right?

01:34:36.000 We're not talking about, I have this child and You know, I loved them, I didn't want to abort them, I did the right thing by them, but I couldn't take care of them, so I gave them to a family who could.

01:34:45.000 We're talking, I got pregnant to make this money, and now, what do you think is going to happen?

01:34:49.000 You think a woman who's pregnant and forming that bond with that child is going to go, well, they're paying me, so now I'm not going to form this spiritual and physical and neurochemical bond with the child. 1.00

01:34:58.000 There have been many instances in which the surrogate mother has changed her mind.

01:35:01.000 And the courts have decided with the surrogate mother.

01:35:01.000 Yeah.

01:35:04.000 That's good.

01:35:04.000 Yeah, that is good.

01:35:05.000 I'm glad to hear that.

01:35:06.000 I'm glad there's a legal precedent for that then, for siding with the mother.

01:35:09.000 It's such a sad thing.

01:35:10.000 It's such a sad thing overall.

01:35:12.000 But we are actually going to head over to Super Chats now, where we're going to let the fans ask us some questions.

01:35:18.000 Yeah, so people who chat in, give us a couple dollars.

01:35:18.000 Super Chats!

01:35:21.000 Yeah, here we are.

01:35:23.000 So we have from I'm Not Your Buddy Guy says, it does bother me that many leaders in the West, especially in the U.S., are acting as if they know they can never be removed from power again.

01:35:34.000 That's an interesting point.

01:35:35.000 What do you guys think about that?

01:35:36.000 Term limits.

01:35:38.000 I don't know that I agree with term limits.

01:35:40.000 I'm saying we need term limits.

01:35:42.000 We've had term limits in California for a number of years.

01:35:44.000 The state's gotten bigger and bigger.

01:35:45.000 What happens is the special interests know what's going on.

01:35:48.000 The politicians are trying to figure out where the bathroom is. 0.96

01:35:50.000 Next thing you know, they're termed out.

01:35:51.000 But I do believe in term limits for voters.

01:35:54.000 After you voted Democrat two or three times, you lose your right to vote.

01:35:54.000 Just kidding.

01:35:58.000 I proposed that and nobody picked it up.

01:36:00.000 I can't imagine why.

01:36:00.000 This is kind of the reason why I don't like term limits because Politicians who are going to lie to you and steal from you are a dime a dozen.

01:36:10.000 We're going to get plenty of those, and term limits aren't really going to get rid of those people.

01:36:13.000 But the once-in-a-generation type leaders who actually come around and want to do the right thing, they then only get a few years to lead, when historically, you know, they could be elected and re-elected and re-elected and re-elected because they did such a good job.

01:36:24.000 Plus, it's all about choice.

01:36:25.000 I should have the choice to choose somebody over and over and over again if I want to.

01:36:28.000 That said, I think there is something to be said, especially when looking at our current political landscape about there being, you know, cognitive tests and much harsher adherence to standards that would ensure that those in power... You're not referring to Joseph Robinette Biden?

01:36:43.000 No, we're referring to Dianne Feinstein.

01:36:46.000 The thing is, there's like a few people over the past couple years I could have been referring to, but now, yes, Joe Biden.

01:36:50.000 This is something I remember hearing my entire childhood, you know, when I was learning about politics in school, when I was learning about the history of the 80s.

01:36:57.000 They would mock the Republicans for having a president, Ronald Reagan, who they claim ended up becoming demented or senile towards the end of his presidency.

01:37:07.000 That may or may not be true.

01:37:08.000 I can't tell you the history there.

01:37:09.000 I can't tell you whether what I was being told in school about that is accurate.

01:37:12.000 But what I can tell you is this is after he was already elected.

01:37:15.000 Joe Biden.

01:37:17.000 And by the way, Reagan's age was an issue when he ran.

01:37:19.000 He was 69 years old when he got elected.

01:37:21.000 I am older than that.

01:37:22.000 Trump is older than that.

01:37:23.000 Reagan's age was an issue when he ran he was 69 years old when he got elected

01:37:27.000 I am older than that Trump is older than that Biden is older than that

01:37:31.000 Yeah, that was already his own record as our nation's oldest president, which just seems

01:37:36.000 If he were to be elected, if he were to serve out his whole second term, he'd be 87 when he left.

01:37:40.000 Oh my god.

01:37:41.000 But this is the media, right?

01:37:42.000 The average voter who is not heavily politically informed doesn't know that this stuff is going on.

01:37:47.000 They don't see the montages.

01:37:48.000 They know Joe Biden is old!

01:37:50.000 Yeah, but they're not seeing the videos of him looking clearly.

01:37:54.000 Tony Bennett just died at 94.

01:37:55.000 Come on.

01:37:56.000 He could have been president.

01:37:57.000 96.

01:37:57.000 But I don't think Joe Biden isn't healthy for his age.

01:37:59.000 At least there was some utility behind Tony Bennett.

01:38:01.000 96, you're right, take it back, 96.

01:38:03.000 Joe Biden isn't healthy for his age, you know, he's not...

01:38:05.000 Plus he can't sing.

01:38:06.000 At least there was some utility behind Tony Bennett.

01:38:10.000 He was still productive.

01:38:11.000 Do you want Tony Bennett singing and dancing until the end of his life?

01:38:15.000 No.

01:38:16.000 Where is Joe Biden's family?

01:38:17.000 Be like, hey man, you've had a long career.

01:38:20.000 Too much money to be made.

01:38:20.000 It seems like it's time to step back.

01:38:22.000 Well, this is the thing with Joe Biden.

01:38:23.000 Yeah, because he's a product for them.

01:38:24.000 That's crazy.

01:38:25.000 I think.

01:38:26.000 That it's possible.

01:38:27.000 We don't know why God makes the decision he made or makes.

01:38:30.000 His thoughts are not our thoughts.

01:38:32.000 Joe Biden is an old man who we know has done many horrible things and promoted many horrible things.

01:38:38.000 This could be God's way of giving him as many second chances to repent as possible.

01:38:43.000 Let's hope he takes one of them at some point.

01:38:45.000 Let me give you my prediction.

01:38:47.000 People are now speculating that Joe Biden won't be able to make it, won't be able to fog up a mirror, and Kamala Harris is even less popular.

01:38:55.000 The nominee, if Joe Biden cannot fog up a mirror, will be Kamala Harris.

01:38:58.000 And here's why.

01:39:00.000 When Bernie Sanders won the Nevada caucuses in 2020, and for a moment, for a brief shining moment, he became the party's front runner, a Democrat socialist, they panicked.

01:39:10.000 James Clyburn, on the eve of the South Carolina primary, endorsed Joe Biden with a promise that his first Supreme Court nominee would be a black female.

01:39:19.000 Joe Biden hired a black female to be his running mate. 1.00

01:39:22.000 Gavin Newsom, when it appeared that Dianne Feinstein might not serve out her last term, promised to appoint a black female.

01:39:29.000 To kick aside the first black female who's on base to become the first black female president by a white person like Mayor Pete or Gavin Newsom, Black voters will be livid.

01:39:38.000 And the first primary is where? 0.73

01:39:40.000 South Carolina.

01:39:41.000 And 60% of the voters are black.

01:39:42.000 Majority of those are black female.

01:39:44.000 And the polls show black females love, love, love Kamala Harris. 0.59

01:39:48.000 And they resent the mocking of her so-called cackle.

01:39:50.000 They think it's sexist and racist.

01:39:51.000 And they believe that Joe Biden's given her thankless tasks like finding the root causes of illegal immigration.

01:39:56.000 So, if you do that and shove her aside for somebody else who's white, black voters won't vote Republican, they just won't vote, thereby guaranteeing that whoever the nominee is on the Republican side, he or she will win. 0.95

01:40:06.000 They can't do that.

01:40:07.000 So, they are stuck with Biden-Harris.

01:40:10.000 That is so interesting.

01:40:11.000 I've never heard that analysis before.

01:40:12.000 Thank you.

01:40:13.000 Thank you very much.

01:40:16.000 And if I'm wrong, this didn't happen.

01:40:19.000 What would you say, I'm curious, do you know what the polling data is on black men in Kamala Harris?

01:40:25.000 I don't.

01:40:25.000 I'm sure she's not as popular among black men as she is among black females.

01:40:29.000 By the way, black men, 20% of them voted for Republicans in 2020.

01:40:33.000 Well that's the thing, the share of black men voting Republican has increased since Trump has come on the scene.

01:40:39.000 Trump got 8% of the black vote in 2016, he got 12% in 2020, 50% increase, but he got 20% of the black male vote.

01:40:45.000 But I thought Joe Biden said, if you don't Joe Biden, you're not black.

01:40:48.000 Well, Joe Biden was raised in the black church.

01:40:50.000 And by the way, he said that on Charlamagne Than God show.

01:40:52.000 And Charlamagne Than God wasn't even insulted.

01:40:55.000 If you look at the tape, Biden said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hey, if you don't know if you want to vote for me or vote for Trump, you ain't really black.

01:41:00.000 And Charlamagne wasn't even insulted. 0.85

01:41:02.000 Here he is, this white dude who's lied for decades about his civil rights record.

01:41:05.000 Claiming that he desegregated movie theaters and restaurants in Delaware.

01:41:09.000 No evidence he ever did it.

01:41:10.000 He was raised in a black church.

01:41:11.000 People in that black church said they never saw him. 0.99

01:41:13.000 He's lied and lied and lied.

01:41:14.000 Said he tried to visit Nelson Mandela during apartheid South Africa.

01:41:17.000 No evidence of it.

01:41:18.000 He's lied for decades about his civil rights record and tells you, Charlemagne the God, a black man, who's down with the brothers, you ain't really black if you don't want to vote for me.

01:41:27.000 And he wasn't even insulted? 0.98

01:41:30.000 I am the black face of white supremacy.

01:41:32.000 Not only has Biden lied about his civil rights record, but he openly, publicly stated very early on in his career that he wasn't marching in Selma.

01:41:43.000 He made all sorts of statements early on, distancing himself from the civil rights movement.

01:41:47.000 And now today he says, the whole reason I got into politics was the civil rights movement.

01:41:52.000 And I was like, what, to oppose it?

01:41:55.000 He said the reason he ran was because that guy, Donald Trump, you know, he said there were good guys and bad guys on the side of being fascist.

01:42:04.000 And of course Donald Trump never said anything like that.

01:42:06.000 He said the opposite.

01:42:07.000 He said, quote, and I'm not talking about the white nationalists and neo-Nazis because they should be condemned totally, end of quote.

01:42:12.000 That's right.

01:42:12.000 Even Jake Tapper, two years after the incident, said, you know, I went back and looked at the tape and Donald Trump was talking about the debate on whether or not there should be a Confederate monument in the public square.

01:42:21.000 And then two days after Jake Tapper said it, Biden is on CNN and says it again.

01:42:26.000 And nobody said a word.

01:42:28.000 Just blatantly lied.

01:42:30.000 Typical sleepy Joe.

01:42:31.000 That one gamer said, I'm proud to say that Larry was my first vote in L.A.

01:42:35.000 County in the gubernatorial recall.

01:42:37.000 Just curious as to what Larry's thoughts are on gun control.

01:42:42.000 What do you think?

01:42:42.000 I'm a Second Amendment guy.

01:42:44.000 Interesting, we're talking about Donald Trump a moment ago.

01:42:48.000 How many times have the Democrats referred to him as a tyrant or a dictator or a fascist?

01:42:53.000 I ask you gentlemen and lady, what is the purpose of the Second Amendment?

01:42:58.000 So, if you believe Donald Trump is a tyrant, why in the world would you want further gun control restrictions when, after all, the amendment is designed to prevent somebody like Donald Trump, the tyrant, from taking power?

01:43:09.000 You ought to be hoping that more law-abiding people have more guns.

01:43:12.000 It seems like the tyrant would be the one saying, you know, give me your guns.

01:43:15.000 Which means either they're lying and being a demagogue when they refer to him as a tyrant, or they have no clue what the Second Amendment's really for.

01:43:19.000 They don't know what the Second Amendment's for. 0.99

01:43:21.000 Either way, it's bad.

01:43:22.000 They don't know what the Second Amendment's for. 0.99

01:43:24.000 They don't actually believe that that's... They don't understand anything about well-regulated militia, and it's open to their interpretation, which is just not the accurate interpretation of that.

01:43:36.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:43:37.000 says, Hannah Clare, is it me, or was Lindell mad sketchy today?

01:43:43.000 A lot of huff and puff, dot dot dot.

01:43:45.000 Well done this week, y'all.

01:43:47.000 Not even one YouTube strike.

01:43:50.000 Thank you guys so much.

01:43:51.000 I mean, first off- What's he referring to?

01:43:53.000 Well, this morning I hosted our Culture Wars show, which is a debate program, and I had Matt Brainerd on, and he wanted to talk to Mike Lindell about election security.

01:44:01.000 And, you know, really it was about- it was supposed to be about early voter turnout.

01:44:06.000 There was a lot of heated back and forth.

01:44:08.000 And I will say, it's not that I thought Mike Lindell was sketchy, it's just that I think there was a lot of- I feel like I shouldn't review the debate.

01:44:16.000 I feel like there was a lot of tension in the room.

01:44:18.000 You know, they're both people who feel really strongly and passionately about what they do.

01:44:21.000 And occasionally it felt like they were going back and forth about, well, you're questioning me.

01:44:25.000 Well, you're questioning me.

01:44:27.000 But I am ultimately so grateful to have the opportunity to have people who want to see, you know, their parties have victory and they want to see change in America.

01:44:39.000 So Mike Lindell really wants to find ways to have more secure elections to make sure that your vote matters.

01:44:45.000 And Matt Brainerd is, of course, advocating for early voting because he says, you know, these are the tools we have at hand and we need to push forward that.

01:44:51.000 And I think it's an important conversation, but lively, very, very lively.

01:44:56.000 Serge and I, I think both had to get our ears checked afterward.

01:44:59.000 It's interesting that the Democrats have, quote, put democracy on the ballot when they refer to people like Donald Trump, who believes that the election was stolen, as undermining our republic.

01:45:10.000 For the entirety of Trump's term, Hillary Clinton referred to him as illegitimate, said the election was stolen.

01:45:16.000 That's right.

01:45:17.000 Nobody called her an election denier.

01:45:19.000 And Jeh Johnson, Obama's DHS secretary, testified under oath that while the Russians tried, they failed to change a single vote tally in 2016.

01:45:27.000 There was a YouGov poll.

01:45:28.000 Two-thirds, 66% of Democrats believe the Russians, quote, changed vote tallies, close quote, to elect Donald Trump.

01:45:33.000 That's right.

01:45:34.000 Zero evidence of it.

01:45:35.000 So who's being deluded?

01:45:36.000 A greater percentage of those guys believe that 2016 was stolen than we feel 2020 was stolen.

01:45:41.000 But nobody calls them election deniers.

01:45:42.000 Well, when they claimed the election was stolen, we investigated the candidate.

01:45:46.000 When Republicans claimed the election was stolen, they investigated the Republicans.

01:45:50.000 So that's all you need to know about that.

01:45:52.000 Noah Sanders says, when are these Tim Cass beanies going to be available for at least members?

01:45:57.000 Give the people what they want, Potato Man.

01:45:59.000 Firstly, I don't appreciate the slur against my Irish ethnicity.

01:46:03.000 That was very rude.

01:46:04.000 That was a hate crime.

01:46:05.000 I think that's a hate crime.

01:46:05.000 Potato Man.

01:46:07.000 Secondly, what do you mean?

01:46:08.000 This is just how we normally dress.

01:46:09.000 What are they talking about?

01:46:10.000 I don't know, Tim.

01:46:11.000 Tim, do you know?

01:46:11.000 I'm not really sure.

01:46:13.000 By the way, why is it okay to call the Notre Dame Fighting Irish?

01:46:16.000 Why aren't people upset about that?

01:46:17.000 I think no one's even willing to come to the defense of the idea that that stereotype's not true.

01:46:22.000 They're like, no, that's just how they are.

01:46:24.000 But I assume you don't find that offensive?

01:46:26.000 No, I don't.

01:46:27.000 It's actually funny, because I remember being a little kid and seeing it and finding it offensive.

01:46:31.000 And then I was like, mom, look at that.

01:46:33.000 And she laughed at it.

01:46:34.000 Right.

01:46:34.000 She's like, oh, it's funny.

01:46:36.000 Okay, I guess that's what we do when people make fun of our people.

01:46:40.000 I said, Mom, how dare you? 0.98

01:46:41.000 I said, you're a self-hating Irish. 1.00

01:46:43.000 I've not heard anybody complain about it. 0.98

01:46:46.000 I just wonder why.

01:46:46.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:46:47.000 It's a good question.

01:46:47.000 No, no, no.

01:46:48.000 No, I agree with you. 1.00

01:46:49.000 It's because it's stupid to complain. 1.00

01:46:50.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:46:50.000 It's a little joke. 1.00

01:46:51.000 It's a little caricature.

01:46:53.000 But the Washington Redskins, that's got to go.

01:46:55.000 Yeah, that's horrible.

01:46:56.000 Dude, well, it's funny because this guy, there's a funny picture of a Native American dude wearing a shirt that says, like, the Caucasians.

01:47:06.000 Liberals are like, oh, how would you feel about that?

01:47:07.000 I was like every white person I know thinks that's funny.

01:47:09.000 I think that's a funny joke.

01:47:12.000 Including Caucasians. 0.84

01:47:13.000 I've actually talked to a friend of mine who's Native American and one of the reasons they say that why it's less offensive for the fighting Irish is because there were people of Irish extraction that were on the board of the school.

01:47:25.000 So it's not seen that way.

01:47:27.000 Whereas when these other organizations were formed, whether we're talking about, we're not talking about not the Redskins, but If we're talking about the Indians, right, like the ideas there, they were like, they had the first Native American players.

01:47:39.000 That's right.

01:47:39.000 And it was named after him.

01:47:40.000 Exactly.

01:47:41.000 To honor this guy.

01:47:42.000 But now they're saying that there's nobody in the front office.

01:47:44.000 His name was Sockalexics.

01:47:45.000 Sockalexics.

01:47:45.000 Yes.

01:47:46.000 And then him and then two more right after that, right?

01:47:49.000 So they were doing it to honor him.

01:47:50.000 They weren't doing it to even talk about a tribe or anything.

01:47:52.000 Too much time has passed.

01:47:53.000 So what's the problem?

01:47:54.000 But this never comes up.

01:47:54.000 Yeah.

01:47:55.000 I feel like this is the first I've ever heard this information.

01:47:57.000 But the reason is what they're saying is that because there's nobody in the front office that actually has voting power for the team, that that makes it offensive.

01:48:05.000 There was no representation.

01:48:06.000 Yes, whereas on the boards of Notre Dame, you're going to have somebody who's...

01:48:12.000 Representing the players who are on the team.

01:48:15.000 Yes.

01:48:15.000 But that representation is irrelevant.

01:48:18.000 Celtics is okay too, right?

01:48:19.000 Well, I have a theory about this.

01:48:22.000 I have a theory about this, which is, okay, so when you have a good friendship with somebody You can make fun of them, you can poke fun at each other, and it's fine.

01:48:31.000 If you're in a healthy relationship with someone, your girlfriend or your wife, you can tease each other, you can make fun of each other, but sometimes you see that couple who joke about each other and they're clearly being nasty and trying to disguise it as banter and it's extremely uncomfortable.

01:48:45.000 I think where we are as a nation today, with racial politics, is we are that second couple, where you make a joke, and maybe even in the moment, the joke you're making is just lighthearted, but because the relationship's gotten so sour, people are angered by it.

01:49:03.000 People think you're making a dig, whereas when the races are actually getting along, We're able to make fun of each other.

01:49:09.000 It's actually a sign of health when different racial groups can make fun of each other for things that are unique to that group.

01:49:15.000 And again, if it's your friend group, I think that's one of the differences, right?

01:49:19.000 When we're talking about the internet, these are people you don't know in the real world.

01:49:22.000 If it's your friend group, that's different.

01:49:24.000 Unless your friends throw you overboard.

01:49:25.000 Let's take Bill Maher.

01:49:26.000 Remember when Bill Maher made that joke where he was talking to Senator, I think it was Josh Hawley?

01:49:30.000 And he said, I would have been a house n-word.

01:49:32.000 Yeah.

01:49:33.000 And he got hammered, and Ice Cube goes on his show and says, I knew you were going to F up at some point.

01:49:40.000 He got hammered.

01:49:40.000 Now, Bill Maher prides himself on his friendship with blacks, has a lot of black friends.

01:49:44.000 I'm confident, privately, they shoot the n-word back and forth all the time.

01:49:48.000 So he said it in a joking way.

01:49:49.000 I thought it was funny. 0.71

01:49:50.000 And he got hammered, and not a single one of his black friends stood up and said, yo, come on.

01:49:54.000 Bill's down with us.

01:49:55.000 We joke like this all the time.

01:49:56.000 They threw him under the bus.

01:49:58.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean, you're right that that's very possible, especially because if someone's gonna say that on television to a black person, the idea that they haven't, like, tested that with their own little market research behind the scenes is crazy.

01:50:09.000 He said it to a white person, a senator.

01:50:10.000 Oh, Josh Hawley of Missouri.

01:50:12.000 Yeah.

01:50:12.000 Oh, there were no, so there were no black people on the show?

01:50:14.000 It was even funnier.

01:50:15.000 He said, he said, well, you would have been, I forget where, how it came up.

01:50:18.000 You would have been a slave.

01:50:19.000 No, I would have been a house inward. 0.90

01:50:21.000 And it was funny.

01:50:21.000 I thought it was funny.

01:50:22.000 And what I'm saying is none of his black friends stood up and said, come on, it was funny A and B. Bill Maher and I were good friends.

01:50:28.000 He's down with the people.

01:50:29.000 We say this kind of stuff privately all the time.

01:50:31.000 It was an innocent joke.

01:50:32.000 Nobody backed him up.

01:50:33.000 They all threw him under the bus. 0.95

01:50:35.000 So they didn't want to get canceled by the black community. 0.99

01:50:37.000 That's crazy. 0.80

01:50:38.000 We have one from Bruce Maximus.

01:50:41.000 For Mr. Elder, would allowing churches or similar to establish boarding schools to enact cultural, excuse me, culture transplant under the school choice initiatives be able to ameliorate some moral, some modern moral degradation?

01:50:57.000 Do I believe that churches should set up schools to teach people stuff?

01:51:00.000 Yes.

01:51:01.000 They don't need school choice, technically, to do that.

01:51:04.000 Yeah.

01:51:04.000 The church that I go to has all sorts of schools, camps, and things like that.

01:51:08.000 I'm encouraging churches to get involved.

01:51:11.000 I mean, it's crazy that we ever decided that education should be the primary responsibility and duty of the state, right?

01:51:16.000 This is what families should do, and it's what… For the majority of our nation's history, it was not.

01:51:20.000 Yeah.

01:51:20.000 It was done by communities, organizations in the community.

01:51:23.000 And there's no evidence that with the state took it over, the equality hasn't gotten any better.

01:51:27.000 What was the reason?

01:51:28.000 I mean, did this have a lot to do with cities expanding?

01:51:32.000 It had everything to do with people wanting to get paid more.

01:51:38.000 Oh, sorry, I wasn't sure if you... I didn't want to interrupt you.

01:51:41.000 I had a brilliant thought and you... No, no, no, go ahead.

01:51:43.000 No, it's gone.

01:51:44.000 It's dissipated.

01:51:45.000 Gone forever.

01:51:46.000 I'm a horrible host.

01:51:47.000 How could you do this?

01:51:48.000 The collective IQ of the whole audience has now gone down five points, all because of Seamus.

01:51:51.000 You robbed us of this moment.

01:51:53.000 It's not my fault at all.

01:51:54.000 It's the fault of the fighting Irish. 1.00

01:51:59.000 The racism I struggle with every day on this show.

01:52:02.000 This is unbelievable.

01:52:05.000 This is how I end my week.

01:52:07.000 This whole week I'm working hard to host for Tim. 0.97

01:52:09.000 The black face of white supremacy. 0.99

01:52:11.000 You really are the black face of white supremacy calling me the fighting Irish. 1.00

01:52:14.000 The race card. 1.00

01:52:15.000 Do not leave home without it.

01:52:18.000 Look, here's the thing about the race card.

01:52:20.000 I'm Irish, which means we weren't considered white until being white meant you had to apologize for being white. 0.65

01:52:24.000 So we, like, got in at the worst possible moment.

01:52:26.000 Unbelievably frustrating.

01:52:27.000 I'm also Slavic, which I've been told means that I'm a person of color.

01:52:30.000 You actually are, according to some.

01:52:32.000 Yeah.

01:52:33.000 And we just had Gay Pride Month.

01:52:34.000 We should have a Take It Easy on the White Man Month. 1.00

01:52:37.000 I would agree.

01:52:37.000 I think that should be everyone.

01:52:38.000 Lighten up on Whitey Month. 1.00

01:52:41.000 It's brutal.

01:52:42.000 It is brutal, man.

01:52:43.000 It's rough out here for us. 0.65

01:52:44.000 It is not a good year to be a white male.

01:52:45.000 It has been for a couple years, though, I'm just gonna say.

01:52:47.000 Yeah, a couple years.

01:52:50.000 Some time now, you guys have had some problems.

01:52:52.000 Well, like I said, we've been talking about this. 0.98

01:52:55.000 It's okay to bash white people. 0.99

01:52:56.000 It's okay to bash men. 0.99

01:52:57.000 It's okay to bash straight people. 0.99

01:52:58.000 It's okay to bash Christians. 1.00

01:53:00.000 Not only okay, actually, that's too light. 0.96

01:53:01.000 We say it's okay.

01:53:02.000 It's not okay, like you're required to. 0.99

01:53:04.000 You are actually required to hate white people, to hate men, to hate the family, to hate Christians. 0.99

01:53:08.000 Well, Seamus, they've held power for too long. 1.00

01:53:10.000 Time's up.

01:53:12.000 Those white men just gotta get out of the way and let the rest of us have a voice. 0.98

01:53:17.000 Well, it's one of these crazy things. 0.57

01:53:18.000 Every now and again, you'll have some award ceremony that people cry about giving a majority of their awards to white people, and it ends up being proportionate to the population.

01:53:26.000 So it's like, you know, they gave 65% of their awards to white people.

01:53:30.000 It's because it's like 65% of people in the country.

01:53:32.000 Okay, never mind.

01:53:33.000 No, no, we can't talk about the proportion of the country.

01:53:36.000 There are a lot of white people in this country.

01:53:38.000 I don't know if you noticed that.

01:53:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:39.000 A boatload of them.

01:53:40.000 No, I've noticed far too many, you know, which really bothers me.

01:53:43.000 That's the other thing, too.

01:53:44.000 They can literally cheer about that.

01:53:45.000 Don't worry, they're a global minority, so you don't have to stress about it.

01:53:48.000 And that can be cheered for, right?

01:53:50.000 When somebody says, like, yeah, statistically, in the United States, if trans-continued white people are going to be a minority, like, left-wing people will celebrate that. 0.91

01:53:57.000 Could you imagine celebrating that about any other group of people? 0.96

01:54:00.000 Sickening. 0.97

01:54:00.000 It's really sickening. 0.97

01:54:02.000 We had a super chat pulled up here, but then I guess you could say I lost my train of thought.

01:54:04.000 Here we go.

01:54:05.000 Bruce Maximus, for Mr. Elder, Well, you don't want to know what I would do if I were in charge.

01:54:11.000 I will tell you.

01:54:12.000 That is, remove corporate tax and place it in the income tax, as the consumer pays it either way, so better to make

01:54:17.000 it apparent.

01:54:18.000 Well, you don't want to know what I would do if I were in charge. I will tell you.

01:54:21.000 If I were in charge, I would limit taxes to what the founding fathers intended, which is, as I said earlier, the

01:54:26.000 limited government's of – limited duties, powers of government.

01:54:29.000 Government would be so small that its obligations would be funded on duties and tariffs, which is what the founding

01:54:34.000 fathers intended.

01:54:36.000 The Constitution had to be amended for the income tax.

01:54:39.000 If you look at the Constitution, none of this stuff, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, none of that was envisioned by the founding fathers.

01:54:44.000 Can I ask you this?

01:54:45.000 If I could rule the world, which I can't, I'd put it back to that.

01:54:49.000 Do you think it would be possible, you mentioned that you wanted spending to be at 10% of GDP, do you think it would be possible to have that much revenue with those policies?

01:54:58.000 Yes, if you look at some of the things that we, meaning the government operates, whether it's Amtrak, whether it's the national parks, there are lots of things that could be leased.

01:55:08.000 The Hoover Dam, I could go on and on and on about things the government's running that The private sector could run and we could generate fees and meet the small limited obligations that the federal government is supposed to have.

01:55:19.000 Yes, we could be done.

01:55:20.000 Okay, here's this one.

01:55:22.000 This is so from Dan Sherman.

01:55:24.000 I know.

01:55:24.000 I'm sorry.

01:55:25.000 Well.

01:55:26.000 Yeah.

01:55:27.000 From Roma Nation, do you think there's a possibility that the reason Biden was chosen by the quote deep state unquote was to fix the issues that he created with the Ukraine scandal so it doesn't expose other people in the government doing the same thing?

01:55:40.000 I think Kim said something like that last week.

01:55:44.000 But, here's the thing.

01:55:46.000 Our government's been doing a lot of meddling in Ukraine, and there are a lot of political leaders who have an incentive to cover that up.

01:55:53.000 It's not like Joe Biden's the only person who would be able to do that.

01:55:56.000 I don't know, what do you guys think?

01:55:57.000 Regarding Ukraine in general, Putin has already lost his war.

01:56:01.000 When the invasion started, I watched a lot of television.

01:56:04.000 I watched a lot of these pundits, including on Fox.

01:56:06.000 They all thought the invasion would take two or three days, maybe a couple of weeks, and then Ukraine would be flattened.

01:56:12.000 The only issue was how far Putin would go.

01:56:14.000 Would he threaten the NATO countries and invoke Article 5?

01:56:17.000 This is now deep into the second year.

01:56:19.000 Putin has lost at least 200,000 troops.

01:56:21.000 That would be the equivalent of us losing 400,000 troops.

01:56:24.000 20 generals have been killed either on the battlefield or have disappeared.

01:56:28.000 There's been an attempted coup.

01:56:30.000 His hold on power has never been more tenuous.

01:56:33.000 He's looking for an off-ramp.

01:56:34.000 We ought to give him one.

01:56:36.000 We have here from Satosha Catergator, keeping families together and promoting the Catholic sense of subsidiarity would solve a myriad of socio-economic issues.

01:56:43.000 Completely agreed, by the way.

01:56:48.000 Also, there's a conspiracy.

01:56:51.000 Her and I clearly don't always agree on everything because she just said, also I want to publicly apologize for accusing Seamus of stealing anything.

01:56:56.000 Thank you.

01:56:57.000 Thank you.

01:56:57.000 I appreciate that.

01:56:58.000 I deserved that.

01:56:59.000 She accused you of stealing something?

01:57:00.000 So I've been accused of stealing spoons from Tim.

01:57:02.000 There's been a heinous smear campaign.

01:57:03.000 We talked about it today on the show.

01:57:04.000 People have been making stories up about me.

01:57:06.000 It's really just not acceptable.

01:57:07.000 And so I have been maintaining my innocence.

01:57:10.000 You guys know me.

01:57:10.000 You know I wouldn't do something like this.

01:57:11.000 You weren't stealing.

01:57:12.000 You were just an undocumented chopper. 1.00

01:57:13.000 I wasn't even an undocumented chopper.

01:57:15.000 You guys know me.

01:57:16.000 You know I wouldn't do something like that.

01:57:17.000 I would never do something like that.

01:57:19.000 I still have yet to see James use a spoon.

01:57:21.000 I just want to say that.

01:57:21.000 There we go.

01:57:22.000 Does he use his fingers?

01:57:22.000 Look at that.

01:57:24.000 I've seen him use forks, I've never seen him use a spoon.

01:57:26.000 So he does use cutlery.

01:57:28.000 Yes, he is civilized enough to use cutlery.

01:57:31.000 And there you have it, from one of the best journalists, if I do say so myself, here at Timcast, that I didn't do anything.

01:57:37.000 It's what you just said.

01:57:38.000 One of the best journalists in this room, at the very least.

01:57:40.000 No, I wouldn't go that far.

01:57:41.000 I said one of the best in this room.

01:57:43.000 The only one.

01:57:44.000 Yes, thank you for admitting that I am the only journalist in this room!

01:57:50.000 That's unbelievable.

01:57:51.000 No, no, I've been endorsed by a presidential candidate.

01:57:52.000 You guys can't stop me now.

01:57:53.000 That's right.

01:57:54.000 That's because I'm speaking truth to power.

01:57:58.000 That's because I'm speaking truth to power.

01:58:01.000 No, no, I have a new job now.

01:58:02.000 I'm a female press secretary.

01:58:03.000 You're good enough at BSing to be a press secretary.

01:58:05.000 I think you can do it.

01:58:06.000 So if you want HC to be my press secretary, I need 40,000 individual donors.

01:58:11.000 Give me one dollar.

01:58:12.000 Laryoldi.com, make sure I get up there on that debate stage to make sure that she becomes my press secretary. 1.00

01:58:15.000 I now have stake in this game, guys.

01:58:17.000 I need 40,000 of you just to all give $1.

01:58:20.000 I've incentivized her. 0.99

01:58:21.000 By the way, you know, one of the candidates is offering a $20 gift certificate for every $1 donation.

01:58:26.000 What is this, the COVID vaccine?

01:58:28.000 And another one is offering a quote free concert if you donate $1.

01:58:32.000 Another one is giving donors a commission to seek other potential donors.

01:58:39.000 I'm not doing that.

01:58:40.000 These seem like good deals.

01:58:41.000 I'm doing it the old-fashioned way.

01:58:42.000 I'm asking people for their support.

01:58:44.000 What's the concert?

01:58:45.000 Is it Taylor Swift?

01:58:46.000 It's a country-western concert.

01:58:48.000 That's not my genre.

01:58:49.000 I would consider if it's Taylor Swift.

01:58:50.000 I'll be honest with you.

01:58:52.000 Those tickets are going for a pretty penny.

01:58:53.000 I know it's not Taylor Swift.

01:58:54.000 Okay, then I'm back to running for President.

01:58:59.000 We have Chad Kunago, author, who said, instead of term limits, what about having term penalties?

01:59:05.000 In other words, for every term you win, you have to win by a higher percentage the next election.

01:59:09.000 I've never heard that before.

01:59:12.000 That's creative.

01:59:12.000 It is creative, and I think it's a better idea than term limits, but I also don't think that would be ideal.

01:59:19.000 I'll think about it more, though.

01:59:20.000 Uh, Dan Sherman said, the term limits could be like a 401k vesting.

01:59:25.000 An elected official needs to serve so many years to get benefits.

01:59:28.000 Don't get re-elected, no benefits.

01:59:30.000 Yeah.

01:59:31.000 I mean, look.

01:59:32.000 Yeah, you go ahead.

01:59:33.000 The problem with all these ideas, Seamus, is that we ultimately get the government that we vote for.

01:59:37.000 Yes.

01:59:37.000 It's the people who are voting these guys.

01:59:39.000 Tax, spend, regulate, grow the government, and you keep putting them back there and back there and back there.

01:59:44.000 California is a prime example.

01:59:46.000 We're having a huge homeless problem.

01:59:48.000 Our schools are near the bottom.

01:59:49.000 The average price of a home is 175% above the national average.

01:59:52.000 People are leaving for the first time, and yet they still keep voting these people back in.

01:59:56.000 Two-thirds of the state assembly are Democrats.

01:59:59.000 Two-thirds of the state senate are Democrats.

02:00:01.000 Republicans need not even show up for work, and they can pass one job-killing bill after another.

02:00:05.000 Crucidist Viewing says, Larry, do you believe the Civil Rights Act is Constitution or even good in a utilitarian sense?

02:00:13.000 That's an interesting question.

02:00:15.000 I believe that had we not passed the Civil Rights Bill, eventually Jim Crow would have fallen of its own merit because nobody would have gone to a restaurant, nobody would have gone to a state where we have Jim Crow laws. 0.67

02:00:28.000 So it sped up something that I think would have happened ultimately anyway.

02:00:31.000 Yeah, I think there's a good argument to be made that companies want to be able to serve a wider variety of people, and these laws being imposed on them actually made it harder for them to make a profit.

02:00:43.000 So not even from the perspective of them wanting to care about helping people, you could just imagine companies wanting to lobby and push against these on the basis of it costing them money.

02:00:50.000 You know, and these private companies, private bus companies, they wanted to be able to serve everybody.

02:00:54.000 Of course.

02:00:55.000 The government had to stop them from doing it, which is what the Jim Crow laws did. 0.97

02:00:58.000 Plessy v. Ferguson was 1986.

02:01:00.000 The case started because the railroad wanted to be able to service black people.

02:01:06.000 So they had a light-skinned black person sit in the white-only area so that they would start a lawsuit. 1.00

02:01:11.000 They thought they were going to win.

02:01:12.000 They wanted, the private sector wanted people to be able to be comfortable.

02:01:15.000 Of course.

02:01:16.000 They wanted to make money.

02:01:16.000 Well, and you can also imagine for buses or other forms of public transit at this time, especially in the South, with the economic disparity that existed between black people and white people, it would be less likely for a black person to own a car.

02:01:27.000 So you actually had a larger customer base there that they were forced by the government to discriminate against.

02:01:31.000 So there was every incentive on their part not to do this.

02:01:34.000 We have from Carlo Mango TV, Mr. Elder, how can we save California or are we doomed like Sodom and Gomorrah?

02:01:43.000 Well, I liken it to a drug addict.

02:01:44.000 You gotta hit rock bottom, and at that point, you begin to rethink your assumptions.

02:01:48.000 Apparently, California has not yet hit rock bottom.

02:01:50.000 I still am convinced most voters are commonsensical, and if you can explain to them that it is in their best interest to do X, Y, and Z, they will.

02:01:57.000 I believe that the captain of the Titanic would have taken evasive action had he known Iceberg is ahead.

02:02:02.000 It's our job to tell him, hey voters, Iceberg ahead.

02:02:04.000 Take evasive action.

02:02:06.000 Well, we are a minute over, so it's about time for us to wrap up.

02:02:10.000 Do I get overtime?

02:02:11.000 No, you don't.

02:02:11.000 Do I get overtime?

02:02:12.000 But maybe I do, I'll ask.

02:02:14.000 You know, slavery's over.

02:02:15.000 Slavery's over.

02:02:17.000 Maybe they should bring it back, I wouldn't have to work so hard.

02:02:20.000 I would like to thank all of you.

02:02:22.000 Why is everything pointed at me?

02:02:25.000 Because you put your name on this show this week.

02:02:28.000 You've sucked a whole minute out of my life, I'll never get back.

02:02:30.000 Actually, the creator of that show decided to put my name on it because he knew I was the best person for the job.

02:02:33.000 I'm a player, that's just how meritocracy works.

02:02:35.000 I don't know.

02:02:35.000 I want you all to smash that like button.

02:02:37.000 By the way, I have a book called As Goes California.

02:02:40.000 Oh no, I'm still going to give you time to plug your stuff.

02:02:42.000 Oh, okay.

02:02:42.000 I just want to let the audience know.

02:02:43.000 Plug my stuff, alright.

02:02:43.000 Yeah, of course.

02:02:44.000 Become a member.

02:02:45.000 Internet speak.

02:02:46.000 All of your work.

02:02:47.000 Become a member at TimCast.com, that's what I was asking all of you to do.

02:02:50.000 Desperately holding onto control of the show.

02:02:52.000 Mr. Heller, I will just let you go.

02:02:53.000 Plug my stuff.

02:02:55.000 Man.

02:02:56.000 The things you're trying to promote. 0.94

02:02:57.000 Sounds like a sexual device. 0.67

02:02:58.000 This is a contraceptive device. 0.95

02:02:59.000 You know what, you gotta get your mind out of the gutter.

02:03:01.000 So, become a member at TimCast.com.

02:03:05.000 Thank you for joining us, Larry.

02:03:08.000 Anything you'd like to promote?

02:03:09.000 Yes, please go to my website, larryelder.com, contribute $1 so I can get up there on that debate stage and plug my stuff.

02:03:17.000 I've got a book called As Goes California, My Mission to Rescue the Golden State and Save America.

02:03:23.000 It comes out in September.

02:03:24.000 You can pre-order it on Barnes & Noble or on Amazon.com.

02:03:28.000 Well, this was delightful.

02:03:30.000 I'm the only journalist in this room, as said by Mr. Larry Elder, and apparently I could be your future press secretary.

02:03:37.000 Thank you so much for joining us.

02:03:38.000 This has been an absolute delight, both an extremely informed and very fun conversation.

02:03:42.000 I, first and foremost, think we should all give a shout out to Seamus, who has really just helped us.

02:03:50.000 So no, Seamus runs his own company, Freedom Tunes.

02:03:53.000 He has his own life, as it turns out, and also he really just did incredible work this week, and I'm so grateful to have been able to be on the show with you every night.

02:04:01.000 So yeah, great work.

02:04:02.000 Well, you were a massive help, by the way.

02:04:04.000 Hannah Clare and I would have, like, study sessions where we would get stories ready, and so couldn't have done it without you.

02:04:09.000 You were a tremendous help.

02:04:10.000 It takes a village to replace Tim Pool, so we really all just joined together.

02:04:14.000 That's true.

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02:05:13.000 Can I just... 30 seconds?

02:05:15.000 Yeah.

02:05:16.000 I'm on Twitter at Larry Elder.

02:05:17.000 I'm on Instagram.

02:05:19.000 I am on social I'm on thread.

02:05:21.000 I have a question for Seamus.

02:05:22.000 Yes.

02:05:22.000 Why is it we're talking about your name and how you yes.

02:05:24.000 Yes, sir Why is it that private detectives are called Seamus's?

02:05:27.000 You know why it's because of a hurtful racial stereotype that white people were more likely or that Irish people were more likely to become members of law enforcement Something like that.

02:05:36.000 Yeah, I think I think that detectives are more likely to be Irish I know it hurts me.

02:05:42.000 It pains me deeply.

02:05:42.000 I think it's because people name Seamus are really good at figuring stuff out Yeah, this has been a fun week it has been stressful, but I feel like we did well Seamus good job Yeah, man, and you did an awesome job, by the way.

02:05:56.000 Serge was, this whole week, giving me cues and just extremely helpful, so thank you.

02:06:00.000 And Serge passed me the little post-it note while I was, when we first started.

02:06:04.000 I don't have my glasses, I couldn't read this.

02:06:06.000 You figured it out!

02:06:07.000 I just want you to know, Seamus was going...

02:06:12.000 And the professional radio host figured out he needed to read it to his mic.

02:06:15.000 So Serge, I need big letters.

02:06:17.000 It isn't that I can't read, I just need big letters.

02:06:18.000 Totally.

02:06:18.000 I need to get bigger post-it notes.

02:06:22.000 Bigger post-it notes are bigger paper cranes.

02:06:25.000 Would you please fill the top of your... It was just so you'd tilt the mic slightly.

02:06:28.000 Would you please fill the top of your... Tilt?

02:06:31.000 Oh yeah.

02:06:32.000 I write terribly.

02:06:33.000 Would you please fill your face?

02:06:34.000 What a way to end ShimCast, this wonderful week.

02:06:36.000 Yeah, also insulting your hand yeah, yeah, I know I understand

02:06:39.000 I wrote terribly, but you guys can follow me at Twitter, and I won't write stuff in my handwriting

02:06:44.000 I'll use the type of the computer anyways. Thanks. Cheers.

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Timcast IRL - Fox News Matches Donations to SATANIC Temple, Planned Parenthood w- Larry Elder

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