Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Putin Puts Nuclear Forces On High Alert, White House Responds w-Lauren Southern

00:00:00.000 We'll see you next time.

00:00:14.000 Now, they're calling it nuclear deterrence, which is to imply that they will only fire in response.

00:00:20.000 But you look at what's going on right now with the Russian economy.

00:00:23.000 The ruble dropped around 30 or so percent.

00:00:25.000 They kept their stock exchange closed.

00:00:28.000 So a lot of people think that Russia's in serious trouble here, but I don't believe that Vladimir Putin would start a war unless he intended to see it through.

00:00:35.000 And he likely calculated these responses.

00:00:37.000 He had to predict they'd go after the banks.

00:00:40.000 There would be sanctions.

00:00:40.000 They've already sanctioned him in the past.

00:00:42.000 So we'll see where all this goes.

00:00:44.000 They have put their nuclear weapons on high alert.

00:00:46.000 We're now hearing that Brazil has announced, or I should say Bolsonaro, at least, of Brazil, announced neutrality.

00:00:51.000 Switzerland has broken neutrality, which is kind of crazy, to sanction Russia.

00:00:56.000 China's obviously on the side of Russia. 0.51

00:00:58.000 And we're starting to see more and more people take sides.

00:01:00.000 Belarus is expected to join the war on the side of Russia.

00:01:04.000 And it just seems like things may spiral out of control, but maybe not.

00:01:07.000 Maybe the sanctions will actually work, so we'll talk about this.

00:01:10.000 There's a real fear.

00:01:10.000 We got an article from Barron's.

00:01:12.000 It's actually kind of funny.

00:01:13.000 They say that the removing banks from the SWIFT international payment system could result in cyber attacks.

00:01:19.000 And these are the 10 stocks we think that will go up because of it.

00:01:21.000 Gotta love capitalism.

00:01:23.000 So we'll get into all that.

00:01:23.000 We do have some cyber attacks.

00:01:25.000 We do have some news around basically everything that will, all of this stuff, as well as a funny story of Jill Biden accidentally calling Kamala Harris the president, although I don't know if it's an accident at this point.

00:01:33.000 And we'll get into all that.

00:01:34.000 Joining us today to talk about this is Lauren Southern.

00:01:38.000 Pleasure to be here.

00:01:38.000 Thanks for having me.

00:01:39.000 You want to introduce yourself?

00:01:40.000 Yeah.

00:01:41.000 I'm Lauren Southern.

00:01:41.000 I am a documentary filmmaker, completely canceled all over the world.

00:01:45.000 Like a lot of people here, I'm sure.

00:01:47.000 Nah, we're good.

00:01:48.000 Just you.

00:01:48.000 No, just me.

00:01:49.000 All right, great.

00:01:51.000 Yeah.

00:01:53.000 Came here from Canada all the way.

00:01:55.000 How's that going?

00:01:55.000 Canada.

00:01:56.000 Oh, I'm glad to escape briefly from our dictatorship.

00:01:58.000 So that's been good.

00:01:59.000 They're not going to let you back in when they see this now.

00:02:01.000 True.

00:02:01.000 Yeah, they're going to be like, hey, that's her.

00:02:03.000 She called it a dictatorship?

00:02:05.000 I was told to be on good behavior while I was here.

00:02:07.000 But you've done a lot of reporting before.

00:02:09.000 You did reporting at the Rebel, right?

00:02:11.000 Yeah, I was at Rebel Media, and then I did a bunch of independent, on-the-ground stuff.

00:02:15.000 We certainly crossed paths a few times at protests in Europe.

00:02:20.000 Then I took a bit of a break from media, and I'm back working on a few movies.

00:02:25.000 I had Borderless, Farmlands, Crossfire, and my new one is American Mirage.

00:02:30.000 Interesting.

00:02:30.000 What is that one about?

00:02:31.000 It's about the caravans and illegal migration into the U.S.

00:02:34.000 We definitely need to talk about that because I don't know if you heard that the U.S.

00:02:38.000 government issued a memo requesting Customs and Border Protection leave the southern border to go to Poland to process refugees from Ukraine.

00:02:45.000 And it's like a job anyone can do and there's no reason to take our border guards off to do it, so... Especially when there's not enough there.

00:02:51.000 They've given up on trying to protect the border because they've got so many people just working on processing people.

00:02:56.000 Or is that the policy of the Biden administration to have no border?

00:03:00.000 Yeah, it's half and half.

00:03:01.000 I mean, when you want to get into the documentary, you will.

00:03:03.000 We'll do it.

00:03:04.000 We also have Seamus.

00:03:04.000 All right.

00:03:06.000 You missed me.

00:03:07.000 Don't even sigh like that.

00:03:08.000 We missed you, Seamus.

00:03:09.000 They were calling, begging for me to come back.

00:03:11.000 It's true.

00:03:12.000 We were.

00:03:12.000 It's true.

00:03:13.000 And I am glad to be here.

00:03:14.000 I thought, you know what?

00:03:15.000 I'll do him a favor.

00:03:16.000 I'll head back over to the cast castle.

00:03:18.000 Thank you.

00:03:19.000 I also couldn't be separated from you lovely folks at home.

00:03:21.000 I missed you all so much.

00:03:23.000 Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes.

00:03:24.000 I release animated cartoons on my YouTube channel every single week, sometimes twice a week.

00:03:28.000 We got a funny one coming out this Thursday, so I hope you all will check it out and subscribe, and I am looking forward to this conversation.

00:03:34.000 Glad to see you, Seamus.

00:03:36.000 When you see Lauren Southern on the camera, behind her is this very beautiful wooden Timcast sign.

00:03:42.000 Behind any guest, honestly.

00:03:43.000 It's okay.

00:03:44.000 And Seamus has this I think it says 2x4 Plank.

00:03:48.000 No, there was a typo on that one.

00:03:50.000 You're blocking the S. There was a typo on that one.

00:03:53.000 It says Timcast in the name.

00:03:54.000 It's Shimcast. 0.97

00:03:55.000 It's actually Timcast.

00:03:56.000 We were sent that in the mail by a fan who cares about things being done properly, I guess.

00:04:01.000 I think it's funny that, you know, World War III is breaking out and we're doing silly jokes about Shimcast and Seamus.

00:04:07.000 I mean, we can't stop joking.

00:04:09.000 Right.

00:04:09.000 It's true.

00:04:10.000 Humor is part of being human.

00:04:12.000 That's kind of the center point, or one of.

00:04:14.000 Maybe eating is another one of them.

00:04:16.000 Hey, I'm glad you're here, Lauren.

00:04:17.000 I'm happy to be here, too.

00:04:19.000 You were, like, focusing on immigration way before I realized the danger, and then I started studying, like, Roman history, the history of the fall of the Roman Empire and stuff, and how basically unfettered immigration is the reason that that fell.

00:04:31.000 Any country that just lets other cultures come in and then set up shop and create the government is now that government. 0.99

00:04:37.000 Yeah, I've never understood the reaction to my conversations about immigration.

00:04:41.000 People always just lose their minds.

00:04:42.000 This is racism.

00:04:44.000 Immigrant is code word for like anyone that's not white to you, and that's why you don't want mass immigration. 1.00

00:04:48.000 And I'm like, anywhere except the West, I am a liberal.

00:04:51.000 I'm like far left.

00:04:52.000 If you go to Anywhere in Asia, anywhere in Africa, even if you go just down to Mexico, they're like, nope, no foreigners in. 0.98

00:05:01.000 Close these borders.

00:05:03.000 We want to protect our own first.

00:05:04.000 And I'm like, all right, we just need to, you know, slow it down a bit.

00:05:07.000 And that's racist here.

00:05:09.000 I'm a liberal by non-Western standards, but you're far right if you're living in America and say these things.

00:05:14.000 We got a lady pressing the buttons. 1.00

00:05:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:05:16.000 I am pushing buttons in the corner.

00:05:17.000 I have a lovely lady here with me tonight. 0.53

00:05:19.000 I'm very excited.

00:05:20.000 I always love that feminine energy. 0.74

00:05:21.000 It's going to be a great chat.

00:05:22.000 I'm excited.

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00:05:39.000 But don't forget also to smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.

00:05:44.000 And I just want to point out as well, I made that comment about, you know, like World War III is coming.

00:05:47.000 I don't know if World War III is really coming.

00:05:49.000 We have a serious conflict in Europe.

00:05:50.000 I just think it's funny that we're at this point in time where you have, you know, a group of people of varying political backgrounds are here to do a podcast and have a very serious discussion.

00:06:00.000 And it's like, yes, yes, the situation in Ukraine is growing very dire.

00:06:03.000 So smash that like button!

00:06:06.000 Subscribe!

00:06:07.000 So that culture around YouTube where it's like this exaggerated youthful exuberance is now being, you know, it's a part of war with Russia.

00:06:15.000 No, it's true.

00:06:16.000 You look at news reports from the 1940s and they're like, we need to help our boys who are overseas!

00:06:21.000 And then when people look back on our conflicts, they're like, hit the like button!

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00:06:26.000 Vladimir Putin just shelled a mall killing civilians!

00:06:29.000 Smash that like button! 0.98

00:06:31.000 Did you guys see the Applebee's commercial?

00:06:33.000 Yeah!

00:06:33.000 I was like, what the heck?

00:06:35.000 Wait, what was this Applebee's commercial?

00:06:37.000 Oh, you gotta see it.

00:06:37.000 So there's air raid sirens going off in Ukraine.

00:06:41.000 And then all of a sudden it just breaks to like this cowboy guy doing a butt shuffle dance.

00:06:45.000 And it's like, cold beer on a Friday night.

00:06:47.000 And it's like, get your wings.

00:06:49.000 Wait, this is an actual Applebee's commercial.

00:06:51.000 It was on like a, which channel was it on?

00:06:53.000 CNN?

00:06:54.000 CNN was showing a live shot of the air raid.

00:06:56.000 Oh, and then it cuts to an Applebee's commercial.

00:06:58.000 And then it's just a little window with the air raid sirens in the corner.

00:07:00.000 It's like live Ukraine air raid sirens and the big Applebee's.

00:07:04.000 I guess Applebee's got pissed and they announced they're like pulling ads or whatever.

00:07:07.000 Anyway, let's get serious.

00:07:09.000 I mean, I'm surprised anyone saw that.

00:07:11.000 It was on CNN.

00:07:12.000 Well, that's true, but it went viral on Twitter where everyone mocked them.

00:07:16.000 Well, let's talk about this first story.

00:07:18.000 And we have this from CNN of all outlets.

00:07:20.000 I like using CNN when it's something like this.

00:07:22.000 White House responds to Russia's decision to put deterrence forces on high alert.

00:07:26.000 They say, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said Sunday that Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to put Russia's deterrence forces, which include nuclear arms and high alert, are part of a wider pattern of unprovoked escalation and manufactured threats from the Kremlin.

00:07:41.000 This is really a pattern that we've seen from President Putin through the course of this conflict, which is manufacturing threats that don't exist in order to justify further aggression.

00:07:50.000 And the global community and the American people should look at it through that prism.

00:07:54.000 Saki told ABC's George Stephanopoulos on this week.

00:07:57.000 Well, the news there is that in response to the sanctions, the escalation, and I guess what Putin says is aggressive language towards Russia, they've put all of their forces on high alert, which includes nuclear weapons.

00:08:10.000 And then you had this guy on Russian TV who said, what's the point?

00:08:14.000 Something like, what's the purpose of the world without Russia in it? 0.99

00:08:17.000 There's absolutely going to be nukes dropped.

00:08:18.000 You think so?

00:08:19.000 submarines, we can launch these warheads and you know, we could

00:08:22.000 basically wipe out NATO in the US. I guess the question is saber rattling, hyperbole, or should we all go hide in the

00:08:27.000 basement?

00:08:28.000 There's absolutely going to be nukes dropped.

00:08:30.000 You think so?

00:08:30.000 Hassan Piker just said there wouldn't.

00:08:32.000 Oh, there you go.

00:08:34.000 My man's reversed Nostradamus. 0.99

00:08:37.000 We're screwed. 0.98

00:08:38.000 We're done for, guys. 0.99

00:08:40.000 I want to launch them on Mars.

00:08:41.000 I think if you nuke the poles on Mars, doesn't that start an atmosphere or something?

00:08:44.000 You think Russia's going to do that?

00:08:46.000 Maybe they'll work together, yeah.

00:08:48.000 We'll take the North Pole, they can take the South Pole. 0.86

00:08:50.000 It has like 1% of relevance to the conversation.

00:08:54.000 I know, I'm just trying to make it better.

00:08:55.000 You are talking about nukes!

00:08:57.000 Save the world!

00:08:58.000 Wrong planet.

00:08:58.000 I hope there's no nukes.

00:08:59.000 Or right planet.

00:09:00.000 Why would anyone do it?

00:09:01.000 It seems like if you launched a nuke, that would be the end of everything.

00:09:04.000 No, I disagree.

00:09:04.000 The surface.

00:09:05.000 You don't think the surface would just get fried after that?

00:09:07.000 U.S.

00:09:08.000 did it.

00:09:08.000 They got away with it.

00:09:09.000 Drop a few cheeky nukes. 0.90

00:09:10.000 That was before anyone else had one.

00:09:11.000 That was before ICBM.

00:09:12.000 So look, the fear is mutually assured destruction, right?

00:09:16.000 Not real.

00:09:16.000 I don't believe in it.

00:09:17.000 I don't think it's a real thing.

00:09:18.000 So you guys ever see that movie with, what was it, Matthew Broderick?

00:09:22.000 No, War Games?

00:09:22.000 War Games, yeah, Matthew Broderick.

00:09:23.000 Oh yeah, Matthew Broderick.

00:09:24.000 And all the missiles are flying in the air or whatever.

00:09:27.000 And then there was G.I.

00:09:27.000 Joe.

00:09:28.000 You guys ever see the G.I.

00:09:29.000 Joe?

00:09:29.000 No.

00:09:30.000 Demi Moore?

00:09:30.000 Where the guy who looks like the Pope plays the villain?

00:09:33.000 What?

00:09:34.000 No, I didn't see that.

00:09:35.000 The guy from Game of Thrones who was the priest guy, plays a villain, and then he's like, the U.S.

00:09:39.000 fires their nukes, and then so then every other country's like, what are you doing?

00:09:42.000 And they all fire the nukes, and they see all the nukes in the air, and then the Cobra guy masquerading as a president blows up the U.S.

00:09:48.000 nukes so that everyone else does.

00:09:51.000 Mutually assured destruction makes no sense to me, right?

00:09:53.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:09:54.000 Lauren, let me ask you a question.

00:09:55.000 So, a military officer comes to you and he says, Mrs. Southern, 17 nuclear warheads are headed towards the eastern seaboard.

00:10:04.000 There is nothing we can do to stop them.

00:10:06.000 But, you can choose to kill 10 million civilians yourself. 0.99

00:10:10.000 Would you do it? 1.00

00:10:11.000 Would you be like, I guess I'll blow up a bunch of civilians? 1.00

00:10:15.000 You know, if I was a little more bitchy and spiteful, maybe, but, you know, maybe, no, no, not me.

00:10:19.000 Well, it depends on how the Patreon lawsuits go.

00:10:21.000 But think about it.

00:10:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:23.000 It would be like... Which cities are we talking about?

00:10:25.000 Do I get to pick and choose?

00:10:27.000 Let's just say, you know, like we can... Russia's fired a bunch of nukes at the eastern seaboard of the United States, Vancouver and Toronto included, I guess, because, you know, Canada. 0.88

00:10:37.000 You can't stop it, but you can kill Russian civilians. 1.00

00:10:40.000 Would you do it? 0.97

00:10:42.000 I don't think people would do that.

00:10:43.000 Here's the thing, I don't know if she would, but someone would.

00:10:46.000 Yes, that's a good point.

00:10:47.000 And I think that threat exists in the mind of anyone who's considering launching nukes in the first place.

00:10:51.000 But you guys ever hear that story about the Russian submarine dude?

00:10:54.000 They got a false alarm that a nuke was fired, and he refused to fire.

00:11:00.000 I think that's more indicative of what a person would do.

00:11:02.000 Well, there's been studies done on this, too, with just the amount of people in war that go out, whether it be Afghanistan or World War II, and they'll talk about how much they freeze.

00:11:11.000 We talked about this with someone with Vietnam.

00:11:13.000 They were saying that the soldiers who were drafted would aim up and try not to hit people.

00:11:16.000 Actually, most soldiers.

00:11:17.000 50% of the time they'll freeze and not be able to shoot someone the first time it happens to them

00:11:21.000 We talked about this with someone with Vietnam They were saying that this the soldiers were drafted would

00:11:27.000 aim up and try not to hit people Yes, actually most soldiers

00:11:30.000 There was a study done called men under fire and they basically found that something like 2% of soldiers did 98%

00:11:36.000 of the killing Whoa, yeah

00:11:38.000 and so the entire idea was our government wanted to figure out how you could get everyday average troops to be willing

00:11:43.000 to fight because Most people in a combat situation if someone is up on top

00:11:47.000 of them or they have to kill them in a direct self-defense Scenario will do so

00:11:51.000 So in warfare, if the enemy are jumping into your trenches, yes, you'll shoot them more often than not.

00:11:56.000 But if they're all the way across the battlefield and you're trying to snipe and pick them off, most soldiers won't pull the trigger.

00:12:03.000 And our government kind of tried to figure out ways to encourage troops to do so.

00:12:07.000 Didn't video games himself. I'm not sure there's a game called America's Army

00:12:11.000 that was basically grooming people to become soldiers. Not that it's a misconception that government. I'm not saying

00:12:16.000 it makes you it makes you more violent. But when you're desensitized to entering combat. What I was reading something where they

00:12:24.000 said like playing video games helped people overcome their like resistance towards killing someone. I think probably

00:12:30.000 with drones and stuff it's a lot easier the further and further like degrees apart.

00:12:34.000 It's almost like the trolley question. 0.96

00:12:37.000 Okay, would you pull the thing to kill one person or two people?

00:12:40.000 Alright, would you push someone in front of the train to stop the trolley?

00:12:43.000 The closer you get to being the exact thing that kills the person, that's when all those mental blocks start.

00:12:49.000 But when they're just green light on a screen, much easier to click a button.

00:12:53.000 My favorite trolley meme is the one where it's one track and it's just riddled with people and it says, you can stop the train at the trolley at any time, but it would hurt corporate profits.

00:13:03.000 That one's good.

00:13:03.000 By the way, it was also, it was men against fire was the name of it.

00:13:07.000 Men against fire.

00:13:08.000 Yeah.

00:13:08.000 And yeah, so yes.

00:13:09.000 Um, and I want to double check the numbers I threw out.

00:13:11.000 I may have misremembered them.

00:13:12.000 So go and look that up for yourself.

00:13:14.000 A shockingly low number of people are, are willing to actually engage in this.

00:13:17.000 The Russian submarine soldier, his name was Vasily Arkhipov, and it's during the height of the Cold War, Cuban Missile Crisis, and he got, I think there was a miscalculation, they thought the nukes had been fired, he got an order to fire, and he didn't do it.

00:13:30.000 Basically prevented World War III, this one guy.

00:13:32.000 Yeah, and he's like a hero, right?

00:13:34.000 Yeah.

00:13:34.000 They were like, this guy.

00:13:35.000 I don't think most people would do it.

00:13:38.000 But would Vladimir Putin is the question, and I think Vladimir Putin would fire nukes.

00:13:41.000 If he was fired on, yeah.

00:13:43.000 No, no, I think Vladimir Putin would launch nukes.

00:13:49.000 People are giving the Ukrainians weapons, but no one's sending troops in.

00:13:53.000 They're kind of just like, oh, we don't really want to get involved.

00:13:56.000 We don't want to get in trouble.

00:13:59.000 I don't know.

00:13:59.000 The man might get away with it.

00:14:01.000 I saw a cartoon meme of the Ukraine guy and the American guy was like, you have my gun.

00:14:06.000 And the other guy was like, you have my, the Scandinavian guy was like, you have my axe. 0.81

00:14:09.000 And then the British guy was like, you have my bow.

00:14:10.000 And then it shows the Ukrainian guy and he's just got an axe, a bow, and a sword. 0.94

00:14:14.000 Yeah, Lord of the Rings meme.

00:14:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:14:18.000 Also, I just want to pull something up real quick so I can add some clarity to what I was saying earlier.

00:14:23.000 The best figures I have right now say that according to the study, it was fewer than 15-20% of soldiers fired their weapon in the first place, and then an even lower number actually killed people.

00:14:33.000 I'm so conservative with my estimates.

00:14:34.000 Yeah, no, but I also want to say with my number, about 2% actually doing 98% of the killing.

00:14:38.000 I'm actually, I'm not seeing that here.

00:14:40.000 I imagine most soldiers aren't in combat.

00:14:42.000 I believe.

00:14:43.000 Most soldiers are doing like logistics are back behind the scenes.

00:14:45.000 Are you talking about just combat soldiers?

00:14:47.000 I believe.

00:14:47.000 Well, I mean, I believe that the study is referring to combat soldiers because that's the reason they would.

00:14:52.000 I mean, that's the entire reason they were doing the research.

00:14:54.000 Right.

00:14:55.000 Wow.

00:14:55.000 Smackdown.

00:14:56.000 Now Seamus giving me a nice No, I'm sorry.

00:14:59.000 No, no, no.

00:15:00.000 You could actually be completely wrong.

00:15:01.000 I'm saying this is what I'm imagining.

00:15:03.000 So the question is, why is Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine?

00:15:06.000 And if you can answer that, you can answer whether or not he's willing to use nukes more accurately.

00:15:11.000 So there's the conspiracy theories.

00:15:14.000 Maybe not even conspiracy theory is the right word, but there is the theory that Vladimir Putin opposes the Davos Group World Economic Forum, liberal economic order, and all that stuff.

00:15:23.000 It's not an issue of NATO, which is proven by the fact that Estonia and Latvia are on the border

00:15:27.000 with Russia as well, and they're NATO nations. The issue is that Ukraine is, you know, joining

00:15:32.000 the liberal economic order or whatever, and Putin's actually directly criticized this.

00:15:36.000 I don't actually think that's the principal reason, though.

00:15:40.000 If that was the reason, then you could argue, well, he's got to stop the globalists.

00:15:44.000 So of course he'll use nukes, right?

00:15:46.000 There are people posting this. There was a crazy, a Ukrainian MP went on Fox News and said they're

00:15:50.000 fighting for the new world order.

00:15:52.000 I saw that, yeah.

00:15:53.000 And so this is a lot of people saying, like, that proves it.

00:15:56.000 I got a really simple solution for all of you guys.

00:15:58.000 The US and NATO have been screwing with Russian oil profits.

00:16:02.000 It's kind of that simple, right?

00:16:04.000 Yeah.

00:16:04.000 I'm not sure that Russia care about profits as much as we think they do.

00:16:09.000 I think they've got, especially in the East, they have different values than we do in the West.

00:16:13.000 In a sense, they've got those blood and soil values more than we do.

00:16:17.000 They've got the spiritual values.

00:16:19.000 They genuinely believe like the Ukrainians are spiritually connected to Russia.

00:16:23.000 I interviewed a guy named Michael Millerman, really interesting case.

00:16:25.000 He's got a PhD on Alexander Dugin, who they've called Putin's brain.

00:16:30.000 Wait, he has a PhD on Dugin?

00:16:31.000 It's it's in like Eurasianism or around that topic, but he studied and translated Alexander Dugin.

00:16:37.000 That was like his focus of his work.

00:16:38.000 Yeah.

00:16:39.000 And he had 12 professors helping him out with the PhD.

00:16:43.000 11 of them quit because they said this is too dangerous.

00:16:45.000 You shouldn't be allowed to study this topic.

00:16:47.000 It's because he partakes in something called strategic empathy, where he really wants to understand the Russian perspective and like, be able to empathize for the purpose of understanding.

00:16:57.000 And everyone said, no, this is disgusting.

00:16:58.000 How can you have such an illiberal worldview?

00:17:00.000 And now he's getting calls from all over the world of people like, what is going on?

00:17:04.000 Please explain your Asianism to us.

00:17:06.000 And he's- Well then, that's the issue then.

00:17:09.000 If, you know, We mentioned Ben Shapiro's tweet.

00:17:13.000 He said, Putin wants to rebuild the empire.

00:17:16.000 Sanctions aren't going to deter someone who's ideologically driven.

00:17:20.000 If Putin is driven by ideology, I believe he can and will use nukes.

00:17:24.000 I mean, maybe I shouldn't say will.

00:17:27.000 He's capable of... What I mean to say is, he's the kind of person who I believe has the capability and the willpower, to put it... I'm not saying it's a good thing, to press the button and say, I will get what I want.

00:17:39.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:40.000 Yeah, people are reasonable when they're driven by these temporal things of, you know, money, day-to-day, I just want to stay safe.

00:17:48.000 But when you're at that higher level where it's like, even something like revenge, or this is a spiritual battle, then you get people that'll blow themselves up in stadiums for it.

00:17:57.000 Yeah, but I think, you know, to elaborate on the profit motive thing, I'm not saying it's like Putin wants money and he's like, where's my money, my oil?

00:18:05.000 It's more like getting resources for Russia.

00:18:08.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:18:09.000 So, you know, what I see is, we mentioned it 50 billion times, you've got the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, you've got the corrupt energy dealings Joe Biden was doing in Ukraine with, I should say, his son, and then his intervention with the government.

00:18:22.000 And Putin's like, look, we support the Russian people selling oil to our customers in Europe.

00:18:28.000 We charge what we can charge.

00:18:29.000 The West doesn't like those prices, so they're playing dirty games, like funding or providing resources to rebels in Syria, and then playing dirty games with Burisma. 0.57

00:18:38.000 Joe Biden's on camera saying, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the billion dollars.

00:18:42.000 Turns out that prosecutor was investigating the founder of Burisma, whereas someone's on the board.

00:18:46.000 Conflict of interest, at the very least.

00:18:48.000 Putin's like, you're screwing with my ability to generate resources for my country and my people.

00:18:52.000 So that's less of an ideological and more of like a looking at, you know, a world leader thing.

00:18:57.000 But I wonder if it is more ideological than.

00:18:59.000 Well, you know, it's difficult to say.

00:19:02.000 I can't read Putin's mind.

00:19:03.000 I think there's an argument to be made that it isn't ideological, that it is more or less from Russia's standpoint a security issue, whereas from America's standpoint it's an ideological issue.

00:19:12.000 So we see this as we would like for Ukraine to become a more liberalized nation, which

00:19:17.000 is part of NATO and which is part of the EU.

00:19:21.000 And from Putin's perspective, it's as soon as they become a NATO country, the United

00:19:24.000 States could put military bases there.

00:19:27.000 And it's an entirely different set of concerns from I either want to make more money or I

00:19:30.000 want to expand my nation.

00:19:32.000 Yeah.

00:19:33.000 And this would be like the last point.

00:19:34.000 If they do think that the US are going to build troops up there, and they do think NATO is going to join, then they're like, we have this short window that we have to invade and actually be successful.

00:19:41.000 And it's got to be now.

00:19:43.000 I want to, I want to ask you guys.

00:19:45.000 Oh, God, did I just forget the question I was gonna ask you guys?

00:19:48.000 Yep, it's gone.

00:19:50.000 It's coming back.

00:19:51.000 I actually got a buzz in my ear and the New World Order just said no.

00:19:54.000 That's a real thing.

00:19:57.000 So there was this video on Fox, maybe I should pull it up actually, where this, actually I don't know if anybody wrote about it, I'd have to find it on Twitter.

00:20:05.000 Cool, I just remembered my question, so you can do that.

00:20:09.000 I didn't know this until recently, but in some polling like 80 to 90 percent of people in Crimea wanted to go back and be a part of Russia.

00:20:16.000 And I know people have said like, oh the Russians specifically sent people to live there to try and make it a

00:20:22.000 Russian majority and have that happen but then they've got the same thing in 0.99

00:20:24.000 Donetsk where there are a lot of people that want to be a part of Russia.

00:20:27.000 Do you think that they should be allowed to have some sort of vote referendum

00:20:32.000 like Quebec did in Canada to join Russia or is that a problem? Okay, I'm gonna...

00:20:37.000 Reasoning.

00:20:38.000 It's self-determination.

00:20:39.000 But people are saying it's malicious and Russia's specifically sending people there.

00:20:43.000 So like let's look at open borders groups.

00:20:45.000 If they specifically had a bunch of Mexicans go into California and then said, we want to have a referendum to see if California wants to be a part of Mexico, how would you feel about that?

00:20:56.000 Uh, well put.

00:20:57.000 Well, I mean, I gotta be honest, that's war.

00:20:59.000 That's a type of war.

00:21:00.000 Tim would say California, they can have it.

00:21:02.000 Yeah, that's what I said!

00:21:06.000 You picked a very interesting state there, Lauren.

00:21:10.000 Even though the things California is known for are basically useless, what they're not known for is useful, which is producing food.

00:21:19.000 Yeah, a lot of almonds, too.

00:21:21.000 Here's the question, though.

00:21:25.000 The issue with the Donbass region, Donetsk, Luhansk, what some people have told us, and again, I know it's fog of war, propaganda, it's hard to know what's true, is that it was Ukrainian, and then during the Soviet Union, Holodomor, Russification, the eastern regions became predominantly more ethnically Russian as opposed to Ukrainian.

00:21:44.000 Now, 30 years on, all of a sudden, it's like, well, there's a lot of Russians, people, you know, speakers here, guess Russia should take it.

00:21:52.000 I guess the question is how far back do you want to go?

00:21:57.000 What is the issue here?

00:21:58.000 With the eastern region of Ukraine, if it was the Soviet Union, if there was an empire, it collapsed.

00:22:04.000 There are some questions about boundaries and borders and stuff.

00:22:07.000 Sure.

00:22:08.000 California's a little different.

00:22:09.000 If California is allowing people to come in as non-citizens and then, you know, they have kids who then become citizens and within 18 or 20 years they vote for secession, you've got a serious question about whether or not there was an intentional act to come in and take land away from the United States.

00:22:26.000 That being said, there's still an important question of if they play by the rules, if they're working within the law, if these people are citizens and they vote to secede and join Mexico, do we respect the wishes of secession?

00:22:39.000 This country was founded on a bunch of people being like, we hereby vote.

00:22:43.000 We're not part of the British Empire anymore.

00:22:46.000 And Britain was like, nah, and they fought over it.

00:22:48.000 So maybe that's what happens.

00:22:51.000 Both sides will claim their right and whoever has the ability to defend themselves or reconquer the land.

00:22:55.000 You might say they have some ethical justification to say, we're going to be part of Mexico now, but realistically, the U.S.

00:23:02.000 government's not going to give up their West Coast, all that water access.

00:23:06.000 Well, that's why Tim brought warfare into it, too.

00:23:09.000 It would be a question of, would Mexico be capable of going to war with the United States military?

00:23:14.000 And the answer to that question is almost certainly no, unless there was an ally in another part of the world who wanted to send their troops in to help So if China said, let's destabilize the region and... You are wrong, sir.

00:23:24.000 Oh, I am wrong.

00:23:25.000 Explain.

00:23:26.000 You gotta understand, man, with what we're looking at in Russia, a bunch of regular people with guns, almost impossible to conquer. 0.99

00:23:35.000 Air superiority does nothing for occupying territory.

00:23:35.000 Oh, that's true.

00:23:40.000 You can't occupy street corners with fighter jets.

00:23:43.000 That's true.

00:23:44.000 Vietnam and even Afghanistan now.

00:23:47.000 Exactly.

00:23:48.000 Our artillery is not going to hold down, uh, it's not going to force people to, you know, go to certain buildings or to not go near certain buildings.

00:23:56.000 Certainly, you can blow the cities up.

00:23:58.000 Okay, well, sure.

00:23:59.000 But what's the, what, then what's the goal there?

00:24:01.000 So, if you're trying to conquer or maintain control of a land, blowing it up and wiping it off the map, it's kind of like a, well, we're losing it anyway, let's blanket sweep and just wipe everything out and rebuild later, maybe.

00:24:13.000 But you're not going to be able to control the people.

00:24:14.000 Here's why I'm still correct.

00:24:16.000 Because, because you are correct.

00:24:19.000 I mean, firstly, a defensive war is always easier and less expensive to fight than an invasion is.

00:24:25.000 However, it would depend on what percentage of California wanted to be a part of Mexico and how many people there would actually be willing to fight alongside the United States government to maintain that territory as part of the U.S.

00:24:38.000 I don't think it's just a question of the U.S.

00:24:39.000 coming in and blowing things up.

00:24:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:42.000 If there was enough sentiment in California for secession, and I actually think there might, like I said, around a third to 40% of people in each of the five regions of the U.S.

00:24:54.000 favor secession of their region.

00:24:56.000 So the question is, how many people support secession, how many people oppose it, and how many people don't care?

00:25:03.000 And if you look at like Democrats to Republicans in California, it's two to one.

00:25:07.000 It's like for every two Democrats, it's one Republican.

00:25:09.000 And then independents are people who are more likely going to say, I don't care.

00:25:12.000 So I kind of think that if it was a Democrat secession, which is what people are actually talking about and what, you know, the Podesta, what the Boston Globe story, they were war gaming out what happens after the 2020 election.

00:25:27.000 If Trump won, they were suggesting the West Coast secede.

00:25:30.000 It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a left Democrat secession movement.

00:25:33.000 Whether or not the United States can, can stop it from happening.

00:25:37.000 I'm not entirely convinced they could, you know, we, we can talk about, you know, what did Putin say, or I'm sorry, what did Biden say?

00:25:42.000 If you want to go up against us, you need nuclear weapons.

00:25:45.000 And it's like, are you talking about bombing like civilians populations with nuclear bombs?

00:25:49.000 Otherwise you can't do anything.

00:25:51.000 Yeah, destroying a country is different than taking and conquering a country.

00:25:54.000 It's why propaganda is like the most important thing.

00:25:57.000 Well, and it's the entire reason they want to disarm people.

00:26:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:00.000 Absolutely.

00:26:01.000 Yeah.

00:26:01.000 Isn't it amazing watching all of the, like, lefties go full soy over the Ukrainians being armed?

00:26:08.000 Yeah.

00:26:09.000 I can't believe it.

00:26:10.000 Insupportive.

00:26:11.000 They're like, look at all these normal individuals, boss, babe, with her gun.

00:26:15.000 And I'm like, yeah, that's cool.

00:26:16.000 I love that.

00:26:16.000 But why don't you want that for us?

00:26:18.000 Because the Second Amendment isn't about, ooh, Oh, I want to go to the shooting range and have some fun, for if this happens.

00:26:23.000 I think this might be waking a lot of people up to that and realizing, like, yeah, we need to be armed.

00:26:27.000 Always.

00:26:27.000 Look at our southern border.

00:26:28.000 We should have access to it.

00:26:29.000 Southern border's porous.

00:26:31.000 What, did we have like a million encounters last year or more?

00:26:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:34.000 And it would be way more than what were counted.

00:26:36.000 I, you know, I was just down there and I was watching every day.

00:26:39.000 She's like, I counted a million.

00:26:40.000 I counted a million myself.

00:26:41.000 No, I literally just drove to one random part on the other side of a country club in McAllen, Texas, stayed there one morning at 4 a.m., got out of my car, and there were traffickers walking by.

00:26:53.000 And they're like, don't film us, don't film us.

00:26:54.000 And I'm like, holy, you can just drive anywhere across the border and see people making a little journey.

00:27:00.000 It's wild!

00:27:01.000 How can you?

00:27:02.000 What?

00:27:02.000 Electric fence?

00:27:03.000 Can we do something like that?

00:27:04.000 Inhumane and an electric fence is inhumane.

00:27:05.000 Okay, so here was the issue is there was a Texas country club, there was the wall, and then it just stopped.

00:27:11.000 And there was a Texas country club.

00:27:13.000 I guess they couldn't buy the land.

00:27:14.000 So all of these human traffickers and gang members were just going to this country club on the side of McAllen, Texas.

00:27:19.000 That's the thing about a 30 mile long wall.

00:27:21.000 I guess not, because they go around 4 a.m.

00:27:24.000 They say there's shift switches at that time with the border guards, and they're just kind of lazy and a little more lethargic, so they'll just go across at 4 a.m., go through the night.

00:27:33.000 This is why mentality, culture, psychology is so important for a war effort.

00:27:39.000 If the United States has a large quantity of people who don't care about their borders, And even the people employed to guard the borders don't care about the borders?

00:27:47.000 Then Yang got a border.

00:27:48.000 Absolutely.

00:27:49.000 And then you, I mean, so, so, you know, we got into talking about this because of the issue of the eastern region of Ukraine, where you have people voting to, you know, be annexed by Russia or to cede or whatever.

00:28:00.000 In Crimea, that's basically how Russia gained control of it.

00:28:03.000 They were like, oh, we had a referendum and everybody voted.

00:28:06.000 There was a poll from several years ago, like well before the annexation, and it found that it was the most pro-Russia portion of Ukraine.

00:28:15.000 That they basically were like, we're Russia, we're not Ukraine, but we're legally Ukraine.

00:28:19.000 So I can believe that a lot of people there want to be part of Russia.

00:28:22.000 I don't know if I believe the referendum was legit.

00:28:24.000 You know what I mean?

00:28:25.000 Like Putin comes in, he had tanks ready, and then it's just there.

00:28:28.000 But I do think it's interesting.

00:28:29.000 We're talking about guns with Ukrainian citizens. 1.00

00:28:33.000 The question I have, I guess, is, If these liberal types, not leftists, leftists like guns, these liberal types are cheering, like Occupy Democrats cheered, for the distribution of 18,000, I think it was, select-fire Kalashnikovs, full-auto rifles.

00:28:51.000 You said, like, why don't you want that for us?

00:28:52.000 And I'm like, it's an interesting question.

00:28:54.000 Why do they want Ukraine's borders protected and the people armed and they want the people of the United States disarmed and our borders porous and weak?

00:29:03.000 Because they want Russia broken.

00:29:05.000 Because they're Russia-phobes because they listen to the media.

00:29:08.000 Russia-phobes?

00:29:09.000 They're Russia-phobes?

00:29:10.000 There's a lot of Russia-phobes.

00:29:12.000 Sorry, I'll let you finish that and then I'll go to my article.

00:29:15.000 It seems like the liberal people that are acting is a fractal behavior of the liberal economic order which has literally gone around the world setting up military bases in disarming countries like Japan after World War II, arguably justified, I don't know.

00:29:27.000 But the fact that they would be like, stand down, get rid of your nukes, Ukraine. 0.98

00:29:31.000 Like, that's basically what these liberal people are trying to do to American citizens.

00:29:35.000 Get rid of your weapons, guy.

00:29:36.000 Like, you just fall on orders, fall on the path, you know, mindlessly, whatever it is.

00:29:40.000 Is that going to be an effective human civilization?

00:29:43.000 A bunch of sheep just bleating about and then just eating grass?

00:29:46.000 No, I think diversity and, like, resistance is more effective.

00:29:50.000 If you look in nature, that seems to be what helps nature grow.

00:29:53.000 Yeah, competition.

00:29:54.000 It helps advancements?

00:29:55.000 Yeah, you need a reason to want to work to go forward.

00:29:58.000 You just go forward because that's what happens.

00:30:00.000 You got to want it.

00:30:01.000 Yeah.

00:30:01.000 Okay, can I read you this headline?

00:30:04.000 So talking about Russophobia, first of all, I want to point out, if you watch movies, you can always have a Russian villain. 0.64

00:30:09.000 You can always have like an East... I'd even just say a villain from Eastern Europe and no one really cares, right? 1.00

00:30:14.000 They're like, oh yeah, that's fine.

00:30:15.000 But if you have a villain that's, you know... 0.95

00:30:17.000 I mean, you could maybe do this 10 years ago, but a Muslim or something, people will lose their mind. 1.00

00:30:22.000 There was an article in the Globe and Mail today that said, Russians in the sports world are doing PR for Putin's war machine.

00:30:28.000 And they're talking about Alex Ovechkin, hockey player.

00:30:34.000 And I'm sure, did you guys see the tennis player that wrote no war on the camera?

00:30:37.000 So in this article they're saying all of that is pro-Russia, we need to basically, these athletes are all pro-Putin because they just said no war, they didn't say we hate Putin.

00:30:46.000 And it's like a full-on like hardcore kind of anti-Russian article and they're talking about Russians that are saying they don't want a war and saying no.

00:30:55.000 Enough of that.

00:30:55.000 There was an NBC, I think it was NBC, ex-executive that said, we need to start kicking Russian students out of America.

00:31:02.000 We need to start seizing their property.

00:31:04.000 And I'm like, there are, you know, there are thousands of Russians protesting against this war.

00:31:09.000 Like Russians are not Putin.

00:31:11.000 You see someone vandalized, it was like a Russian club or something, like Russian American club somewhere, like smashed out the windows.

00:31:17.000 They banned all Russian vodka in Canada.

00:31:20.000 In Canada?

00:31:20.000 Yeah, in LCBO.

00:31:22.000 I went and got a bunch of Russian standard vodka because they took it off the shelves two hours after I went and picked it up.

00:31:27.000 We should go pick some up.

00:31:27.000 I hear the Russian bathhouse in Manhattan is like the best bathhouse in the world.

00:31:31.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:31:32.000 Are you pro-Putin?

00:31:33.000 Yeah.

00:31:34.000 Wait, hold on.

00:31:35.000 Let me go, Tim! 0.76

00:31:36.000 We got to experience the Spanish flu, and now we're getting to experience Cold War anti-Russian xenophobia.

00:31:42.000 How fun!

00:31:43.000 You know, you gotta get a spice of life, I guess.

00:31:46.000 Yeah, cyclical.

00:31:47.000 We had that video from Alex Jones where he was saying it's like a World War I, World War II buildup.

00:31:53.000 And he accurately predicted.

00:31:54.000 I mean, as much as he predicted it, he said back in, I think it was October, that there would be a big war in February.

00:32:01.000 So you have to wonder.

00:32:01.000 Yes.

00:32:02.000 Where's that jar?

00:32:03.000 Do you have that jar somewhere?

00:32:04.000 Oh, it's downstairs.

00:32:06.000 Alex Jones was right, Jar.

00:32:07.000 He's getting his advice.

00:32:08.000 People were like, there should be more money in there already.

00:32:09.000 He has a lot of good context because that was some good info, apparently.

00:32:12.000 But I also, if you look at like the way the world inflation is going, you can kind of predict a conflict on the horizon back a couple of years ago.

00:32:20.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:20.000 Yep.

00:32:21.000 Price increases predict all of this stuff.

00:32:23.000 So you look at what's happening in the U.S.

00:32:25.000 and you've got all the tensions already.

00:32:27.000 And now, I mean, on top of that, the Russia-phobia, or whatever you want to call it, has been around since 2015.

00:32:32.000 They're the boogeyman and villain.

00:32:35.000 Russophobe. 0.92

00:32:36.000 Russophobe.

00:32:37.000 But it's a big component of the culture war, is what I mean to say.

00:32:39.000 Russophile as well.

00:32:40.000 No, no, so look, look.

00:32:42.000 You get people saying you're a Russian bot, you support Russia.

00:32:44.000 They say Tucker Carlson is pushing Russian talking points.

00:32:47.000 And it's like, what did Tucker Carlson say?

00:32:49.000 He said, here's what the West is doing in Ukraine.

00:32:50.000 Here's what Putin is saying.

00:32:51.000 And they're like, ah, he supports Putin.

00:32:54.000 So what's happening internationally is also a big component of the culture war.

00:32:58.000 You add into the fact that we already have terrible inflation.

00:33:00.000 Now this conflict is going to make gas prices worse.

00:33:03.000 Energy in Europe is going to get worse.

00:33:05.000 Escalating prices for energy and food and then shelter.

00:33:09.000 These precipitate major conflicts internally.

00:33:11.000 Yeah.

00:33:12.000 So I got to say, man, it just feels like everything's kind of falling apart.

00:33:15.000 I was thinking about how, um, you said culture is politics downstream from culture.

00:33:20.000 And I was like, yeah, I really, I want to help the world.

00:33:22.000 If I was trying to get everyone fresh water and internet, if I do that for someone that's the enemy of someone else, that someone else is going to be really mad at me.

00:33:29.000 That's right.

00:33:30.000 Because that's going to help them grow and produce more humans.

00:33:32.000 But if I'm an entertainer, and that person is watching my movies, their enemies don't care.

00:33:37.000 In fact, their enemies are probably also watching my movies.

00:33:40.000 That's the beauty of entertainment.

00:33:41.000 It connects people.

00:33:41.000 Osama Bin Laden was playing Final Fantasy VII.

00:33:43.000 Was he really?

00:33:44.000 He played Animal Crossing.

00:33:45.000 What?

00:33:46.000 Absolutely.

00:33:46.000 He was a human being who played... Humanization is a problem.

00:33:52.000 Like, if you come out and you talk about why does Vladimir Putin want to do this, what are his intentions, then you're pro-Putin.

00:33:57.000 Like, that's literally what they said about Tucker Carlson.

00:33:59.000 Well, this is that PhD guy I was talking about.

00:34:01.000 It terrifies me how little we understand.

00:34:03.000 So, in China, in Russia, they understand us very well.

00:34:07.000 We do not understand the East. 0.84

00:34:09.000 But they get us.

00:34:10.000 You'll see it.

00:34:11.000 Even China will come out and they'll be like, go to the United Nations and they'll be like, oh, look at America.

00:34:16.000 We need to deal with America's racism problem.

00:34:18.000 George Floyd!

00:34:19.000 Woohoo! 1.00

00:34:19.000 Like as if they aren't super racist. 1.00

00:34:21.000 There are a lot of people anyways, obviously not all.

00:34:24.000 And there's definitely an unwillingness to understand them because it's like that's humanization.

00:34:30.000 You have to leave them as inhuman.

00:34:32.000 If you even try to understand the Eastern perspective, then you're pro-Putin, you're pro-China. 0.93

00:34:37.000 It also scares me, and I wanted to kind of talk about this quickly if you guys are willing to, but when we talk about making political decisions in the West it's on a four-year cycle.

00:34:46.000 It's just based on election cycles.

00:34:48.000 With Putin, with China, Russia, it's all like hundred year cycles.

00:34:53.000 You've seen China with the South China Sea.

00:34:55.000 That's been a hundred year plan.

00:34:56.000 We're going to slowly take this.

00:34:57.000 We're going to work on this.

00:34:58.000 And Putin, how long has Putin been?

00:35:00.000 At least 20 years.

00:35:01.000 Yeah, he's been in office ages, but they're looking on the long term.

00:35:05.000 We're not.

00:35:05.000 So they're like, short term pain economically now for Ukraine.

00:35:09.000 What's that looking like in 50 years for us?

00:35:11.000 That's how they're thinking.

00:35:12.000 Well, there's a terrifying reality in that, to an extent, authoritarianism is efficient.

00:35:18.000 The problem is, people always get mad at me when I say that, and I'm like, it is.

00:35:25.000 That doesn't mean it's effective, efficient, different.

00:35:28.000 So here's what I mean.

00:35:30.000 Let's say you're in a car, and you're driving straight towards the edge of a cliff, and there's one guy in charge, and every single time someone screams and yells, we're headed for the cliff, he says, shut up, I'm driving.

00:35:40.000 You go off a cliff.

00:35:41.000 It was fast, it got the job done real quick, and then not effective.

00:35:46.000 If you had everybody in the car arguing over what to do...

00:35:49.000 You know, eventually someone screams and says, you've got to turn.

00:35:51.000 And everyone says, turn.

00:35:52.000 I say, OK, fine.

00:35:53.000 And they turn, you know, go off the cliff.

00:35:54.000 So the decentralized system of power, things can be sluggish.

00:35:58.000 But I think you're offered up more opportunity for averting disaster.

00:36:02.000 With someone like Vladimir Putin, he can move very quickly in a single direction.

00:36:06.000 China can move very quickly in a single direction.

00:36:09.000 They can wipe out a whole bunch of houses and then build a highway. 0.98

00:36:13.000 That sucks for the average person.

00:36:15.000 And then what happens is centralized power limits your ability to see what's going on.

00:36:20.000 A decentralized network of humans who are running something can come up with way more solutions, and then eventually the meritocratic solution finds its way to the top.

00:36:28.000 Not always.

00:36:29.000 With authoritarianism, you got one really smart person, you know, a philosopher king or a despot, either way, they can say, don't do this, it will be bad for us.

00:36:40.000 But they also are just one person, not the smartest person in the world, and they're not able to see everything, and they'll miss.

00:36:46.000 You know, you put it this way, 99 problems, they find one, they solve it very quickly, it's efficient, in the long run they miss out on all the other ones.

00:36:54.000 So I think decentralization is the safest path forward.

00:36:56.000 But Vladimir Putin, China, they're able to move. 0.98

00:36:58.000 But is it the safest when you are competing against people that can move quickly?

00:37:03.000 Because I think it's the safest on a worldwide scale, but not when you have competitors that

00:37:07.000 can go like...

00:37:07.000 I think there's another answer here.

00:37:09.000 Sure.

00:37:09.000 I mean, I don't think it's so black and white.

00:37:11.000 So I agree with you that it's a huge issue that our thinking is so short term in the

00:37:16.000 United States.

00:37:17.000 I don't necessarily believe that long-term thinking is incompatible with a decentralized

00:37:23.000 system.

00:37:23.000 You just have to have a population that is virtuous and intelligent enough to want to

00:37:27.000 make decisions that will be better for the future.

00:37:30.000 So as it happens, our culture is really bad at cultivating virtue and encouraging people to move in a direction where they will make sacrifices today for a better future tomorrow.

00:37:41.000 If we were better at doing that we wouldn't need some kind of insane authoritarian system for people to make decisions that would actually be good for their children.

00:37:48.000 So a really good point is when you have a unified culture You could theoretically have a despot, but no one cares because they all agree with the direction the culture is going in.

00:38:00.000 If the people of Russia are all like, we like what Putin is doing, it's part of our beliefs and our ideology, are they really going to be upset?

00:38:07.000 Obviously, there are people protesting.

00:38:08.000 I'm not saying they aren't.

00:38:09.000 I'm saying if everybody in China agrees with Chinese communism and are willing to make sacrifices for the greater culture, then Well, I think part of the problem is, and so for the United States, even though we've always had these four-year election cycles for the presidency, we were able to progress towards goals that took us quite a long time. 0.65

00:38:27.000 And that was because, for the most part, we were on the same page culturally.

00:38:30.000 A different political party Taking power from the political party that was just in power for 48 years didn't really mean the country was going to move in a radically different direction.

00:38:40.000 So you could achieve things that would take decades and decades to achieve because no matter who you voted for, they'd be interested in that.

00:38:47.000 Now the difference between the left is so massive and we...

00:38:51.000 Completely disagree on what's good for the country, and so that does mean every single time power changes hands, our country moves in a completely different direction, and we can never make any real progress.

00:38:59.000 Well, let me clarify that.

00:39:01.000 See, I think you got a little bias there, Seamus.

00:39:03.000 You're assuming they're operating based on what's better for the country.

00:39:06.000 They aren't.

00:39:06.000 No, they're not.

00:39:07.000 Objectively not.

00:39:08.000 I would agree that they're not.

00:39:09.000 I mean, if you're for open borders, if you're for non-citizens voting, if you oppose the Constitution, you're literally not for this country.

00:39:15.000 No, I agree.

00:39:16.000 Now look, here's the issue I take.

00:39:18.000 I never said they were for the country.

00:39:19.000 You said, I'm being somewhat facetious, but you said deciding on what's best for the country.

00:39:24.000 Oh yeah, sure.

00:39:25.000 They're actually arguing what's worst for the country.

00:39:27.000 I would agree.

00:39:27.000 Here's my issue.

00:39:31.000 I have- if you're of the opinion that America sucks, and the woke are, and it should be dissolved or destroyed or overturned or dramatically altered or there should be a revolution, fine. 0.98

00:39:41.000 Just say it. 0.98

00:39:42.000 Just come out and be like, we hate this place, and I'll be like, alright.

00:39:46.000 Like, just be honest with me about it.

00:39:48.000 And that's the thing, a lot of them do, and then we're still willing to engage in conversation with them about what direction the country should move in.

00:39:55.000 Well, I mean, like, the Democrats, like, the actual political class, and the neocons, of course.

00:39:59.000 I don't think it's just the Democrats and the neocons, though.

00:40:02.000 It's been, like, a fascinating trend to watch some of the people that hate this country the most be right-wing nationalists. 0.93

00:40:08.000 Have you not seen the memes where people are like, hey, you're a fascist, you're a bigot, you're a white male, we hate you, and then, hey man, come and go to war with Russia with us, and they're like, no. 1.00

00:40:18.000 I hope you die. 1.00

00:40:18.000 F you. 1.00

00:40:20.000 Like, they're like, I hate this country now. 0.99

00:40:23.000 I hope it collapses.

00:40:24.000 John Doyle did a whole post on it and he's like, you know, we're in a regime that is conquered by a globalist liberal power.

00:40:34.000 It's crazy to see, you know, nationalists being super against America.

00:40:37.000 Well, so, interestingly, Stephen Marsh, we had him on the show, he wrote the book The Next Civil War, and he summarized it in a way I hadn't heard someone summarize it, and I think he nailed it.

00:40:45.000 He said, within the United States, there's a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic, and they can't coexist. 1.00

00:40:51.000 And I was like, you nailed it.

00:40:53.000 I mean, that explains it.

00:40:54.000 I mean, they want to get rid of the Electoral College, which would be devastating.

00:40:57.000 Yeah, they're for open borders, to a great degree.

00:40:57.000 Insane.

00:41:01.000 I don't, you know, they always come out and they nitpick.

00:41:02.000 It's like, no, no, to a great degree.

00:41:04.000 They've been, you know, the Democratic establishment's been smuggling migrant children, illegal immigrant children across the country on planes, on military planes.

00:41:12.000 They're very much at odds.

00:41:13.000 They don't believe in the Constitution.

00:41:15.000 Then they, but here's the issue I take.

00:41:18.000 If you want a multicultural democracy, okay, present your case, make your

00:41:18.000 Yeah.

00:41:22.000 argument, go vote. 0.69

00:41:23.000 Let's let's, let's have that conversation.

00:41:24.000 Um, the problem is the line.

00:41:27.000 They come out and they say we're for this country and the constitution.

00:41:30.000 Let 800,000 non-citizens vote New York.

00:41:32.000 And you're like, they're not citizens.

00:41:34.000 Being for the country and being for the constitution are different because the

00:41:38.000 federal reserve was formed literally the bank of international service.

00:41:41.000 This is like a mind worm in our system.

00:41:43.000 It's been in there for like over a hundred years, and that is the country.

00:41:45.000 So I don't love that, but I love the Constitution.

00:41:47.000 No, no, no, but hold on.

00:41:49.000 Look, Ian, if a brain slug landed on your head and took over your body, I wouldn't say, well, I guess Ian's gotta go. 0.90

00:41:54.000 I'd be like, get rid of the brain slug. 0.97

00:41:56.000 You would, because you know me, but everyone that saw me would be like, hey, Ian's acting crazy. 0.89

00:41:59.000 Right.

00:42:00.000 And it's been, what, a hundred years or whatever?

00:42:00.000 That's right.

00:42:03.000 So you have to detect what the virus is.

00:42:05.000 I want to point this out, Tim.

00:42:08.000 You're talking about the fact that these people will not come out and say that they hate the United States of America.

00:42:13.000 And at some point, And I'm sure you agree with this.

00:42:16.000 I'm sure I'm not going to get much pushback here, but we'll see.

00:42:18.000 At some point, they don't really have to.

00:42:20.000 It's like that person who tells you they don't hate someone, but then every single thing they say about them is bad.

00:42:25.000 And whenever they talk about the goodness that they might potentially find in that person, they say, well, they could improve in this way.

00:42:31.000 They could hold themselves to the actual standards that they've set.

00:42:33.000 It's like, okay, you hate them.

00:42:35.000 And I'm not going to be all that surprised if you're actually rooting for their downfall instead of trying to make them better, because everything you say about them is critical.

00:42:40.000 Criticizing with good faith is different than criticizing with trying to destroy someone.

00:42:44.000 I agree with you.

00:42:45.000 The issue is there are a lot of conservatives, there are a lot of moderates, and libertarians who think that the left is being honest when they say these things.

00:42:53.000 Like, you know, so again, to throw it back to the conversation we had with Stephen Marsh, I said, you know, in California they tried repealing their civil rights legislation or provision from their constitution.

00:43:04.000 You know, they actually are in favor of segregation.

00:43:06.000 He goes, yeah, well, they're saying so are you.

00:43:08.000 And I'm like, and they're lying.

00:43:10.000 Well, they're saying you're lying.

00:43:11.000 And I'm like, yes, but they literally tried to pass a proposition to repeal the civil rights language in their constitution.

00:43:18.000 I didn't.

00:43:19.000 And I'm not sitting here advocating for any conservative to do that either.

00:43:22.000 I'm saying, hey, don't.

00:43:24.000 But the problem is for a regular person, you know, he was saying, look, I'm about 30,000 feet watching this thing.

00:43:29.000 And then I'm like, and you need to dig deeper to see exactly who really is lying and telling the truth.

00:43:35.000 That's what I want to know.

00:43:35.000 What's the mind worm?

00:43:36.000 What do you think it is?

00:43:38.000 What do I think the minor is?

00:43:39.000 The liberal economic order?

00:43:41.000 Yeah, I think it's the downfall of liberalism right now.

00:43:43.000 I mean, you've had communism failed, fascism failed, liberalism went forward and was successful, but it's something that it may last longer, but it's still coming to the end of its life.

00:43:53.000 It's eating itself.

00:43:55.000 Is it classical liberalism or did it get the name twisted?

00:43:57.000 I want to respond to that.

00:43:58.000 So liberalism is failing, but not as an ideology unto itself.

00:44:04.000 Communism fails because communism is psychotic and doesn't work.

00:44:07.000 Liberalism failed because liberalism allows the malignancy to come within it.

00:44:13.000 But is it the classical liberalism was working and they changed the definition of the word liberalism, just reused it for this new military?

00:44:19.000 That's what he's saying.

00:44:21.000 It allows the freedom for that distortion because it allows so much freedom.

00:44:25.000 And then here's what happens.

00:44:27.000 When, uh, when I am weak, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles.

00:44:31.000 And when I'm strong, I deny you freedom because it's according to mine.

00:44:34.000 So what happens is we have these liberals.

00:44:36.000 It's, it's, it's happening like true liberals, like classical liberals, like civil libertarians.

00:44:40.000 It's all of us.

00:44:41.000 When we keep saying things like, look, I understand this far leftist is saying crazy things, but I have to respect their right to free speech.

00:44:48.000 And they go, thank you so much.

00:44:50.000 Ban him. 0.98

00:44:50.000 He's a bigot. 0.98

00:44:51.000 And then you get banned.

00:44:52.000 So we all keep playing fair and saying, we have principles, so we want to uphold them.

00:44:56.000 And they say, thank you for doing that.

00:44:59.000 But a good example of how that can also work in your favor in that situation, like Majid Nawaz was in prison for basically in Egypt for terrorism.

00:45:06.000 He's on Joe Rogan.

00:45:07.000 Great show.

00:45:07.000 You guys got to check this episode of Groundbreaking.

00:45:11.000 It was Amnesty International.

00:45:12.000 He was like anti-west, you know, anti-everything.

00:45:15.000 He was like a terrorist, basically, against the West.

00:45:17.000 And Amnesty International still wanted him free because he was being unjustly held.

00:45:21.000 And he was like, why?

00:45:22.000 Why does this idea of this liberty, this Western thing, want me free, even though I want it destroyed?

00:45:28.000 Because that's the idea of freedom, is that we protect your right to protest the system.

00:45:33.000 And he had never done any violence.

00:45:34.000 You know, he had just been talking about it.

00:45:36.000 Let me pull this story up, because this is relevant to what we're talking about.

00:45:38.000 This is a tweet from Fox News.

00:45:41.000 Not backing down.

00:45:41.000 Ukrainian parliament member on inspiring civilian resistance.

00:45:45.000 We know that we not only fight for Ukraine, we fight for this new world order.

00:45:50.000 What?

00:45:51.000 Actual quote from Kira Rudik.

00:45:54.000 And the interesting thing is there's like some articles that have kind of framed it as though she was saying, I can't remember if it was a national post, they were like, she was saying the invasion would precipitate a new world order or something.

00:46:03.000 No, she's saying she's fighting for it.

00:46:05.000 But is she referring to it in the proper noun sense of what the New World Order is?

00:46:09.000 Or is she using this phrase as a buzz phrase she heard somewhere?

00:46:13.000 I mean it's obviously it's just even if it is just a buzz phrase and she doesn't understand a terrible language especially when you've already got so many people that are like oh look at George Soros loves this this is like NATO this is this country is an experimental country created to create American bases and NATO and spread liberal ideology like terrible language when you've already got people talking about all of that.

00:46:36.000 It is worth simply talking about the fact that the Western ideology, even though it's morphed into something else now, what some people would call the New World Order, some people would call this amalgamation of larger institutions, it is constantly wanting to spread itself to other countries.

00:46:53.000 And Ukraine is one of those countries.

00:46:54.000 And if it's just Western values that it has, that's great.

00:46:57.000 But if it is getting this mind worm of all the other things that is causing America to You know, decay in a lot of ways, then that's a problem, isn't it?

00:47:07.000 I don't know about, you know, the grand conspiracy of the New World Order.

00:47:11.000 I know it's been said by several world leaders.

00:47:13.000 I think George H.W.

00:47:14.000 Bush said it in the 90s.

00:47:14.000 I think it's the same word as like the deep state.

00:47:16.000 Right.

00:47:17.000 Or it's like it exists, but it's not, you know, lizard people.

00:47:20.000 It's like there are people that there are people within the administration that stay there even when presidents change.

00:47:25.000 And that's very normal.

00:47:27.000 And people can call it the deep state and they can mean it as lizard people or they can just mean it as I've asked Alex Jones, what's the difference between the deep state and the shadow government?

00:47:33.000 And he was like, the deep state, basically the administrative state, the people that get hired and stay there for 40 years and they're not elected, but they're on the floor of Congress.

00:47:40.000 But then the shadow government is like a secretive kind of global governance that's in place in case of nuclear war, that's going to take control.

00:47:46.000 That's what Alex told me.

00:47:47.000 So here's the issue I take with this whole like idea of the new world order is there's a weird overlap between what China is doing and people saying like, you know, Biden is a puppet of Xi and they want to bring Chinese style social credit systems here.

00:48:00.000 But then when it comes to the Russian invasion, China's on the side of Russia and opposed to the U.S.

00:48:04.000 and the U.S.

00:48:04.000 is desperate to like, it's like begging China, please help us.

00:48:07.000 Not only U.S.

00:48:08.000 Are you talking about this invasion right now?

00:48:09.000 The bank.

00:48:10.000 So Switzerland.

00:48:11.000 You mentioned earlier, Switzerland defied its neutrality.

00:48:13.000 Switzerland is the home of the Bank of International Settlements, which is the central bank of central banks.

00:48:18.000 And now it's fighting on the side of... against Russia, or whatever side this is.

00:48:23.000 Here's what I mean, like, if there was a... Which is it?

00:48:26.000 Are we, is China's influence expanding around the world?

00:48:30.000 And now we're, you know, Democrats went and met with China and, you know, these communist party members and said, wow, look at the speed at which you can build a highway.

00:48:37.000 This is one of the stories we've heard.

00:48:38.000 They went and they're like, how do we do this?

00:48:40.000 And now you've got this happening in the West.

00:48:42.000 Or is it the liberal economic order that wants to unify United States, Western nations through NATO or whatever, the European Union?

00:48:50.000 Both can't be true.

00:48:52.000 Right, to a certain degree, there can be some issues.

00:48:54.000 That's why I'm like, it needs to be properly defined what it is.

00:48:57.000 It's China, or is the grand conspiracy that Russia's invasion was all part of the conspiracy for the new... How many levels of underwater backgammon are we playing?

00:49:06.000 Right, exactly. 1.00

00:49:07.000 Or is it just like, make it simple, this lady said something dumb because she's dumb. 1.00

00:49:14.000 You know, or is she part of a secret plot to overthrow? 1.00

00:49:17.000 It's like the Australian, the Australian, like health minister that said this is all about what was Klaus Schwab calling it?

00:49:25.000 Thank you, Lydia.

00:49:26.000 The New World Order thing?

00:49:27.000 No, she didn't say New World Order.

00:49:28.000 The Great Reset?

00:49:29.000 Yeah, she's like, this is for the Great Reset.

00:49:31.000 And everyone was playing that.

00:49:32.000 And it's like, why are you using these words?

00:49:34.000 Yeah, really.

00:49:34.000 They do sound cool.

00:49:36.000 So maybe it could just be it sounded cool.

00:49:37.000 Like, New World Order sounds cool.

00:49:39.000 Really cool.

00:49:39.000 The new normal.

00:49:41.000 And it can also literally just be for publicity because they get people talking about it.

00:49:44.000 They go, well, that's not how I meant it.

00:49:46.000 Obviously, you insane conspiracy theorist, but now you are talking about it.

00:49:49.000 That's what they want.

00:49:50.000 In this mind war that we are in, fifth generational warfare, that's what they want to happen is for people to accidentally start saying we should do what that other, what they want them, what they want.

00:49:58.000 It's hard to believe.

00:49:59.000 Anything you watch, nothing you watch or read online, it's like, is this 12 levels Irony.

00:50:04.000 Is this a serious statement?

00:50:05.000 Was it a mistake?

00:50:06.000 Even watching this war live, we always talked about what would it be like if we had Instagram and Twitter and everything when World War II was happening.

00:50:13.000 And now we've got it, and all we're getting is a ton of fake information.

00:50:17.000 So we've got the the ghost of Kiev, who was actually, it was like a video game simulation video that went viral.

00:50:24.000 and then um obviously you had the footage of or the recording of the 13 people that were allegedly killed on snake island by the russian government and like awful but then the russian i saw rt published an article saying no we actually took them captive here's a video of that and i'm like oh my gosh there's so much different information being put out here what are you even yeah look at this hold on hold on The video showing Ukrainian fighter pilot shooting down a Russian plane, the Ghost of Kiev clip is from a video game, not a video of fighting in Ukraine.

00:50:56.000 This is from PolitiFact.

00:50:58.000 Yeah.

00:50:59.000 And there were even left-wing articles.

00:51:02.000 Actually, I won't say left-wing, because I don't want to... I don't like portraying it as left-wing versus right with Russia versus Ukraine, because Ukraine is actually very nationalist.

00:51:10.000 There are a lot of right-wingers, a lot of people that support... The majority of people are supporting Ukraine, obviously.

00:51:15.000 This is an invasion by Russia. 0.91

00:51:16.000 But...

00:51:18.000 Yeah, there were progressive articles saying actually it's good as long as it's positive misinformation and the ghost of Kiev is misinformation that is boosting morale.

00:51:27.000 And I can see how there's an argument for that, but also like...

00:51:30.000 No, it's still misinformation.

00:51:32.000 Yeah, I think the truth will set you free and we should have honest information and assessments and understanding and people should be motivated by that.

00:51:40.000 The problem is you've got, you know, I think within the parent factions, you can call it the multicultural democracy versus constitutional republic, one side favors truth and discussion and pragmatism and one side favors control.

00:51:54.000 Yeah.

00:51:55.000 The multicultural democracy faction is just like, everyone get in line. 0.86

00:52:00.000 The majority rules.

00:52:01.000 And the Constitutional Republic is, make your argument, state your case.

00:52:06.000 I think it's like the truth about what though, because I understand why in the truth, but not only are you get to choose how you want to demand what you want to demand, but you also have to decide what it is that you're, what it is that you're going to demand about.

00:52:16.000 Like what is real?

00:52:17.000 What are these people creating? 0.90

00:52:19.000 And this is, this is a vague way to put this.

00:52:22.000 Maybe I can come back at this later and be a little more clear.

00:52:24.000 Do you guys understand what I'm talking about?

00:52:26.000 The people that are like obsessed with the truth, you're also creating reality.

00:52:28.000 So if you drop bombs on someone, Yeah, you can speak the truth. 0.98

00:52:32.000 I killed a bunch of people. 0.97

00:52:33.000 It's not me. 0.52

00:52:33.000 I'm not going to say that. 0.52

00:52:35.000 In Minecraft.

00:52:37.000 This crazy guy might say, that was the truth. 0.99

00:52:40.000 He was speaking the truth, but he was also a violent, evil person. 0.96

00:52:42.000 So the truth isn't enough.

00:52:44.000 You need to be good as well.

00:52:47.000 We're talking about war, and what's good in war.

00:52:49.000 What I mean is, in the U.S., someone says, I think our country should be doing certain things.

00:52:55.000 And I say, why do you think that?

00:52:56.000 And they say, take a look at this information, this historical record, and what's happening right now.

00:53:01.000 And I'd say, you make a really good point.

00:53:01.000 Wouldn't you agree with me?

00:53:03.000 I don't agree on that issue, but maybe there's something we can do.

00:53:06.000 The left says, you're racist, you're a bigot, X, Y, and Z really happened. 0.94

00:53:11.000 You should vote for me on this policy because Putin is, you know, kidnapping babies. 0.85

00:53:16.000 Or how about, you know, the Desert Storm? 0.84

00:53:18.000 The woman who said, oh, they're killing babies and all that stuff. 1.00

00:53:21.000 They lie to convince you to give them something.

00:53:24.000 The problem with that is if we're not in the service of function, of meritocracy, of effectiveness, then it's just ripping things apart.

00:53:34.000 Things are being destroyed.

00:53:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:53:36.000 If somebody says, I believe we should take this action for fake reason, there's a good chance they're wrong about that action.

00:53:42.000 There's a good chance it just makes everything worse.

00:53:44.000 If someone's got a really good point to be made and they give you the evidence for their decisions, you can say, I understand and I agree.

00:53:50.000 Yeah.

00:53:50.000 Let's give it a shot.

00:53:50.000 I mean, don't trust anyone who says that they're willing to allow misinformation to spread if it helps their agenda get Well, but because at bottom what they're saying is, I'm not sure if any of what I'm about to tell you for my position is actually true, but I do want you to believe it.

00:54:03.000 See, Winston Churchill used to tell the British that they were going to win the war, but he didn't know.

00:54:07.000 It was just propaganda.

00:54:08.000 He was just trying to make them feel good.

00:54:09.000 Well, if you were a leader in a military and then your country, there's some war, would you not use propaganda?

00:54:14.000 No, no, no.

00:54:14.000 There's a big difference between saying, Ian, if you give me $10, then I'll go save a whale and then take your 10 bucks and go buy a beer with it.

00:54:21.000 There's a difference of lying and just creating propaganda.

00:54:23.000 And me saying, give me the $10, I will save these whales, and then I try and fail.

00:54:28.000 There's a big difference there.

00:54:30.000 Oh, that's a good point.

00:54:31.000 Right.

00:54:31.000 But we only found out after the fact.

00:54:32.000 If a general comes out and says, we are going to win, it's like, yeah, that's an opinion.

00:54:37.000 He's like, he's trying to boost morale, then I get.

00:54:40.000 But what if he knows you're gonna lose anyways, and he's just doing that?

00:54:40.000 We're gonna do it.

00:54:44.000 Like, I think this, no, but this is the question.

00:54:46.000 Is there ethical misinformation?

00:54:48.000 Like you think about a kid who's about to die in a hospital and they're terrified and asking you, mom, doctor, am I going to die?

00:54:56.000 And you hold their hand.

00:54:56.000 Yeah, you're going to die.

00:54:58.000 No, like probably telling them you're going to be fine and letting them pass away in their sleep would be the ethical thing to do.

00:55:03.000 Even if it's a lie.

00:55:04.000 I suppose, yeah.

00:55:06.000 I think, you know, we often talk about the nuance in information.

00:55:10.000 Censorship is a good one.

00:55:11.000 There is such a thing as good censorship.

00:55:14.000 People say censorship is wrong.

00:55:15.000 It's not true at all.

00:55:15.000 It's always wrong.

00:55:16.000 When someone's posting, like, child abuse on social media, censors should remove that.

00:55:21.000 And the person who posts it, illegal stuff, should be taken down.

00:55:24.000 Censorship can be good.

00:55:26.000 Lying can be good. 1.00

00:55:27.000 Like you said, if there's a child who's dying and no good is served by making the child suffer by freaking him out, then maybe you know the kid's got an hour to live and you're like, don't worry, everything's gonna be fine, your parents are here, everything's great, and then they pass away.

00:55:42.000 And it's calm and peaceful and they're not scared.

00:55:44.000 So like, can that be used on a mass scale, though, like you were saying with Winston Churchill, like just propaganda, even, even like, you know, they use dehumanization of the other forces, because they'd have that problem with people not pulling the trigger if they think of, oh, if you went out and you're like telling the truth, these people are just like you.

00:55:59.000 If you sat down and had a chocolate bar with them, you could talk for hours and have a beer and they're just like you.

00:56:04.000 Who's going to pull the trigger in that war?

00:56:07.000 It's a tough question.

00:56:08.000 Oh yeah, you've got to use propaganda.

00:56:10.000 I think getting back to sort of the ethical bedrock here of whether it's ever okay to lie and looking at this example of a child who's dying, I think there's also an argument to be made that you can comfort the child without lying to them.

00:56:21.000 You don't have to literally say you are going to die.

00:56:24.000 Or even in that instance, for example, if you come from a religious household, you actually believe your child is going to go to heaven and be with Jesus.

00:56:29.000 You tell them that you're going to go to heaven and be with Jesus.

00:56:32.000 It doesn't require that you lie to them necessarily.

00:56:34.000 And so I would say, when it comes to dealing with people on a mass scale, if you're lying, you are doing something wrong.

00:56:42.000 That's what I genuinely believe.

00:56:43.000 Yeah, I mean look- And I understand that's a controversial position because there are a lot of white lies that people accept that you can't tell.

00:56:48.000 Fundamentally, I believe that lying is never okay for any reason.

00:56:51.000 So let's talk about war for a second.

00:56:53.000 Let's say you're going into war, you know for a fact you're gonna win, and you stand in front of all the troops and be like, we're gonna win.

00:56:59.000 And everyone cheers, and then you win.

00:57:00.000 That's fine, you told the truth.

00:57:01.000 Let's say you're not entirely sure, it could go either way, but you're gonna rally people and say, we will win.

00:57:08.000 That's different, right?

00:57:09.000 The idea is like, you have a fighting chance so long as people believe.

00:57:12.000 Then if you believe and everyone's got morale boosted, I think it's fair to say you will win.

00:57:16.000 I'm okay with that.

00:57:17.000 If you know for a fact you're going to lose, and there's limited purpose served, and you're just sending people to die, wrong.

00:57:24.000 No, but there are times where they knew they were gonna lose, and they said, we're gonna stay and we're gonna win, and then lightning strikes the enemy camp, and stuff like that has happened.

00:57:31.000 Well, it's true that you don't know anything for sure, but I think there's a really important point to be made here, which is that you get into an interesting ethical question when you ask, is it lying to say something as if you know it for sure when you don't?

00:57:48.000 I think that's a lot more complicated.

00:57:50.000 I would argue That telling your soldiers you are going to win when there's a chance that you're not going to win could actually negatively affect your chances.

00:57:59.000 Because we're just going to win.

00:58:00.000 But if you tell your soldiers this could go either way, you got to fight really hard to make sure that we come out on top.

00:58:04.000 That could be better for morale.

00:58:06.000 That's a good point, actually.

00:58:07.000 And you would say we're going to win so long as you put everything behind it.

00:58:11.000 This depends on you.

00:58:11.000 Exactly.

00:58:12.000 Don't falter.

00:58:13.000 I think that people perform better when they think they're going to win.

00:58:18.000 Well, people vote for the candidate they think is going to win just because they think they're going to win.

00:58:21.000 But like, wouldn't there, okay, so you look at like the Gallipoli campaign, showing up on those beaches and just seeing everyone slaughtered around you and being told like, you know, you're going to win, you're going to win this war.

00:58:31.000 And then wouldn't that like rush doubts through your head?

00:58:34.000 Everything I've been told is a lie.

00:58:35.000 Everything for this cause is a lie. 0.93

00:58:38.000 Winston Churchill sent us here to die.

00:58:40.000 World War II, like, I don't know, midway through the war, they decided to invade near Italy.

00:58:43.000 Gallipoli, that's part of an island?

00:58:45.000 Turkey.

00:58:46.000 Absolutely.

00:58:46.000 Yeah.

00:58:46.000 They just beachheaded it and landed and it was just a slaughter.

00:58:49.000 Absolutely.

00:58:50.000 An Australian annihilation. 0.92

00:58:51.000 Yeah. 0.74

00:58:52.000 Devastation.

00:58:53.000 I think you got to be honest.

00:58:54.000 But this is the challenge.

00:58:56.000 The cheaters will lie and the cheaters get that advantage.

00:59:00.000 And so you got to hope that.

00:59:01.000 I think.

00:59:02.000 But I think you got to lie, man.

00:59:04.000 I don't like it.

00:59:06.000 Because you end up in such a tangled web of misinformation that you're not making decisions based on reality anymore.

00:59:11.000 It does catch up to you.

00:59:12.000 It depends on what your goal is.

00:59:13.000 So when you look at a lot of these establishment players, I feel like most of their goals is just individual power, self-interest.

00:59:19.000 They want a nice house for themselves.

00:59:21.000 Like that BLM lady who owns like five houses or whatever. 1.00

00:59:23.000 Okay, whatever.

00:59:25.000 You know, they come out and they claim they're doing all these good things.

00:59:27.000 They lie. 0.99

00:59:28.000 Sure, for humanity, it sucks. 0.99

00:59:30.000 It's making everything worse. 0.98

00:59:31.000 People burn down buildings and die.

00:59:33.000 But the individual succeeded in their plan.

00:59:35.000 Lying helped them. 0.97

00:59:37.000 They got what they wanted.

00:59:37.000 They extracted what they could.

00:59:39.000 And then those of us that say, you know, we got to be as honest as possible.

00:59:42.000 It's, you know, I'll give you an example.

00:59:45.000 Um, with the stories that are coming on the ghost of Kiev at snake island.

00:59:48.000 What was I saying the other day, Ian, about the ghost of Kiev?

00:59:52.000 I've not seen any evidence.

00:59:54.000 It's a true story.

00:59:54.000 I've not seen, I've seen clips on the internet of a plane.

00:59:58.000 I don't know what that is.

00:59:59.000 It is a cool story.

01:00:00.000 It's masculine. 0.89

01:00:01.000 It's a hero.

01:00:02.000 It's ace fighter pilot.

01:00:03.000 So it's cool.

01:00:03.000 It boosts morale, but I don't know that it's true.

01:00:05.000 Now it turns out at least some of the footage was not even real.

01:00:08.000 It was from a video game.

01:00:09.000 And so people are like, maybe this is not real.

01:00:11.000 It's propaganda.

01:00:12.000 And it probably is the case.

01:00:13.000 The same thing happened with Covington.

01:00:15.000 When that story came out, people sent me this video and I'm like, it's some kid standing there.

01:00:19.000 I have no idea what this is.

01:00:20.000 Well, look at the kid's face.

01:00:21.000 I'm like, what about his face?

01:00:23.000 I don't know.

01:00:23.000 And so I looked and someone sent me a Facebook live stream showing what happened.

01:00:27.000 And I was like, I don't understand.

01:00:29.000 The Native American dude walked up to him.

01:00:30.000 Why are you mad?

01:00:31.000 Like, people are mindless towards this stuff.

01:00:34.000 They just don't care.

01:00:35.000 They want to believe it.

01:00:37.000 The manipulation I think with the Covington kids really ended up being very detrimental to the media organizations.

01:00:42.000 But if your goal is just to maximize your individual profits, you don't care how much damage you're causing to the system or the country or the people.

01:00:48.000 It's a big problem.

01:00:49.000 Honesty, if you see a video of a jet flying, you'll be like, I saw a jet flying yesterday.

01:00:53.000 But no, you didn't.

01:00:54.000 You saw a video, a bunch of pixels of some data.

01:00:56.000 You didn't see the jet.

01:00:58.000 And so when we're in the metaverse and we're experiencing reality, what we think we're seeing, we're saying, anyway, I'm sorry.

01:01:02.000 It's only one angle.

01:01:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:01:04.000 No, I just had a thought that was like, you know, I was thinking about your point.

01:01:07.000 You're like, people who lie will eventually lose.

01:01:09.000 And I'm like, maybe the reason that the lies are necessary is because we've had a cultural and moral decay, whereas the lies wouldn't be necessary without that, because you could just tell someone, yeah, you know what, you might die.

01:01:20.000 But this is a cause worth dying for.

01:01:22.000 Whereas today, people are like, no, I don't want to fight unless we're going to win.

01:01:26.000 Like I was saying about the border guards who don't care about what's happening at the border.

01:01:29.000 There's a video that got released recently of a plane landing at an airport in, I think, What's the Westchester?

01:01:39.000 Is that north of New York?

01:01:40.000 I think it was, maybe.

01:01:41.000 But it lands north of New York, and there's a federal contractor, and there's a cop, and he's like, what are you doing?

01:01:46.000 And they're like, I don't know, we're supposed to do this.

01:01:48.000 And he's like, okay, well, you're not supposed to, but we're gonna let you do it anyway.

01:01:51.000 And then the contractor says to the cop, no one can know we're doing this.

01:01:54.000 And he's like, why?

01:01:54.000 And he's like, because the government's betrayed the American people.

01:01:57.000 Those are two guys.

01:01:59.000 that don't care about this country at all.

01:02:02.000 And one's a federal contractor and one's a cop.

01:02:04.000 That, I think, is indicative of what's happening in this country.

01:02:08.000 That you would witness a serious crime by your government and be like, don't care, doesn't affect me.

01:02:16.000 You know, I think about these stories I hear from, you know, Morocco or Brazil or Russia about bribing cops.

01:02:22.000 And they say it's the norm.

01:02:24.000 You're in South America and you get pulled over a slip of 50 bucks and you're on your way, right?

01:02:27.000 South African driver's license, it's just like... Is that what it's called?

01:02:31.000 They call it a driver's license in any country you go to where you can do that.

01:02:33.000 But in the United States, you can't do that.

01:02:35.000 You try bribing a cop, no one would even try because they know the cops are probably going to be like, you can't afford me and I'm not risking... I got a body camera, it's never going to happen.

01:02:43.000 But there is a certain degree of corruption that we're starting to tolerate, and that is complete self-interest.

01:02:51.000 Is it so different, a bribe, right?

01:02:54.000 If I give you cash versus if you overlook a serious federal crime by your government because you like the money you're being given by them.

01:03:03.000 Yeah, I think we've just got better PR than a lot of the rest of the world.

01:03:06.000 Yeah, American propaganda is the best in the world, for sure.

01:03:09.000 Let me tell you about where this country's at.

01:03:10.000 How about that?

01:03:11.000 The finest.

01:03:12.000 This is a segment for all of our socialist friends out there.

01:03:16.000 We have this story from barons.com.

01:03:17.000 I love the name.

01:03:18.000 Russia's SWIFT exclusion could spur cyber attacks.

01:03:23.000 10 stocks that could benefit.

01:03:24.000 That's an amazing headline if I've ever seen it.

01:03:27.000 So let me break that down.

01:03:28.000 What were you saying about moral decay, Lauren?

01:03:30.000 Moral decay.

01:03:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:03:32.000 SWIFT is the International Payment System.

01:03:34.000 It's like the Society for Worldwide... What is it?

01:03:37.000 International or something or whatever.

01:03:39.000 Financial transactions.

01:03:40.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:03:41.000 I don't know, something like that.

01:03:42.000 And it's the banking system.

01:03:43.000 So they're slowly kicking out Russia's banks from SWIFT, which I believe could result in Russia being unleashed. 0.90

01:03:51.000 They're already sanctioned.

01:03:52.000 They're already in this position.

01:03:53.000 And now you're saying, we're going to remove any leverage we have over you outright.

01:03:57.000 Just get rid of it.

01:03:58.000 So it's backing them into a corner.

01:04:00.000 Or unleashing them, letting them off the hook, or letting them off the leaf.

01:04:04.000 What's the quote?

01:04:05.000 A man with nothing left to lose is a dangerous man.

01:04:07.000 Yes.

01:04:08.000 And so, uh, I believe, you know, I said this before that I think banning Russia from SWIFT would be a huge mistake because you're effectively escalating the conflict the most extreme way possible.

01:04:18.000 Russia's now got no ties to these other countries or financial institutions, so if they nuke you, it won't affect them because you're now severed. 0.54

01:04:24.000 You severed all those economic ties.

01:04:26.000 Well, Barron's, excellent name by the way, is saying you can benefit by Well, they're not saying you could they're saying 10 stocks that could benefit and they go on to list a bunch of companies Like hey, you know, you know what they're saying They're basically telling people without telling them directly buy these stocks war is good for profits Always a way to make money in the markets, I suppose

01:04:47.000 And here I am trying to figure out what stocks they're telling me to buy.

01:04:49.000 Palantir?

01:04:50.000 Oh, of course, Palantir.

01:04:52.000 Yeah, they say Palo Alto Networks, Zscaler, CrowdStrike, Tenable Holdings, Verana Systems, Fortinet, Telos, Mandiant, Palantir, and CyberArk Software.

01:05:03.000 So is it ethical to make money off the decline?

01:05:08.000 Why wouldn't it be?

01:05:08.000 I don't even know what the word ethics means anymore.

01:05:10.000 Can you define that for me?

01:05:16.000 But I guess so much of that has become an individual thing rather than something we would all agree on.

01:05:21.000 Yeah, there's sociological ethics and then there's personal ethics.

01:05:24.000 This is a good question though.

01:05:25.000 Is it okay to profit off the decline of the United States?

01:05:30.000 I tweeted out that I bought a bunch of Russian vodka the other day before they banned it.

01:05:35.000 People were like, this is really unethical of you to go get embargoed products.

01:05:39.000 You want to make money off it?

01:05:40.000 And I'm like, you know what?

01:05:42.000 I can't do anything to stop it.

01:05:43.000 I think that as a society, it's unethical not to profit off of the decline of nature.

01:05:48.000 The destruction and creation of nature, if we're not trying to profit off of it, then we're not doing our system justice.

01:05:55.000 Well, what do you mean by the destruction of nature?

01:05:57.000 And I guess also define profit.

01:05:58.000 What if the profiting off it makes it worse, like accelerates it?

01:06:02.000 Well, yeah, definitely.

01:06:03.000 That's bad.

01:06:03.000 Yeah.

01:06:04.000 I guess, I guess, you know, hold on.

01:06:05.000 A lot of people are probably going to say not true.

01:06:08.000 Rip off the Band-Aid or peel it slowly.

01:06:09.000 Yeah.

01:06:10.000 You know, uh.

01:06:11.000 Rip it off, but rip it with the hair, not against the hair. 0.97

01:06:14.000 Have you seen that meme where it's like, in the event of a nuclear strike, lay down, face towards the blast, put your hands on your head, that way the blast hits your head sooner and you'll die faster?

01:06:23.000 Oh my goodness.

01:06:24.000 It's like a dark meme.

01:06:25.000 Was it unethical for them to tell kids to duck and cover in the Cold War?

01:06:28.000 Get under your desk, and then the nuclear blast, you might have some chance to survive, which they wouldn't, and they knew they wouldn't.

01:06:33.000 No, yeah, depending on the distance, you actually can be shielded from some of the radiation.

01:06:38.000 Yeah, the initial blast radius for a lot of nuclear bombs is not It's not as wide as people think.

01:06:42.000 They think it's like 30 miles.

01:06:43.000 It's like a half mile maybe, which is massive.

01:06:46.000 There was this thing I think the New York Times did where they showed an overlay of different nuclear bombs and how it would affect Manhattan.

01:06:51.000 And it's like, yeah, from river to river, Manhattan is hit.

01:06:54.000 So if you're in Jersey City and Manning gets hit by a nuke, you're not in the immediate blast or radiation zone, but you're going to get hit by the shockwave.

01:07:02.000 So you duck and cover because glass and shards are going to go flying.

01:07:06.000 Do you guys have a bomb shelter?

01:07:08.000 No.

01:07:09.000 No, but you know, let's get the shovel. 0.96

01:07:12.000 None of you have a bombshell.

01:07:14.000 On Zillow they were selling a warhead like missile underground.

01:07:20.000 Oh yeah, I saw that.

01:07:21.000 Did you see that?

01:07:21.000 That was wild.

01:07:22.000 It was like 300k.

01:07:24.000 Yeah.

01:07:25.000 Go pick it up.

01:07:26.000 Get a missile silo.

01:07:27.000 You could and they're really deep and it's not even that expensive.

01:07:31.000 Like you got to think about buying a house these days, the prices are going up.

01:07:34.000 300k, what is it like 16 floors?

01:07:37.000 That's cheaper than a townhouse.

01:07:38.000 Go live in a missile silo, guys.

01:07:40.000 Was it Jake, Paul, or like Mr. Beast?

01:07:42.000 They went to one of these emergency shelter nuclear silos?

01:07:45.000 That'd be fun.

01:07:46.000 And it's like you live underground for 30 years in the event of a nuclear strike or something?

01:07:49.000 But does it come with the missile is the real question.

01:07:51.000 I think they took the missile.

01:07:53.000 They took it.

01:07:54.000 How can you still call it?

01:07:55.000 It's just a silo then.

01:07:56.000 It's just a silo.

01:07:56.000 It's no longer a missile silo.

01:07:58.000 It's false advertising.

01:07:58.000 Just an empty silo.

01:07:59.000 Well, I can tell you this.

01:08:01.000 I don't think it's wrong to profit necessarily.

01:08:03.000 It depends on how you look at it.

01:08:04.000 But I'll say, since all of this stuff has been happening and getting crazier, I've certainly bought stuff that I think is going to help me.

01:08:12.000 I've bought, you know, we've got bug out kits, we've gotten emergency food.

01:08:15.000 That's just like, I would like to survive if bad stuff happens.

01:08:18.000 But I've bought silver and gold.

01:08:20.000 I've bought Bitcoin.

01:08:21.000 And Bitcoin just went up quite a bit.

01:08:24.000 So, as soon as they were talking about banning Russia from SWIFT, I was like, I better buy more Bitcoin.

01:08:29.000 When I learned about... Well, so real quick, because if Russia's kicked off of SWIFT, they're gonna have to replace their international transactions with some kind of infrastructure, and Bitcoin is essentially free infrastructure.

01:08:41.000 They still have to build some Russian-specific hubs and stuff.

01:08:44.000 So then I thought, why would they use anything but Bitcoin if they've already got a bunch, if it already exists, and it's already connected internationally?

01:08:51.000 You're effectively telling them to go on this decentralized shadow network instead of the government-controlled one?

01:08:55.000 They're gonna be like, fine, I thought Bitcoin's gonna skyrocket because of this.

01:08:59.000 But more importantly, I don't want to be holding US dollars.

01:09:02.000 Let me just tell you, man, that beer you got there?

01:09:05.000 Old 690, it's a great place.

01:09:07.000 Gone.

01:09:07.000 Prices, oh yeah, for sure.

01:09:09.000 They're a local brewery and their prices went up.

01:09:11.000 And I noticed like, maybe we bought more, I don't know, but it was more expensive than a couple months ago when we bought it.

01:09:16.000 And it's probably inflation.

01:09:18.000 Yeah.

01:09:18.000 We went to go buy some whiskey from the liquor store.

01:09:20.000 We get the good stuff.

01:09:22.000 The price doubled.

01:09:23.000 That's the trifecta!

01:09:24.000 We've got the pandemic, we've got the Russophobia of the Cold War, but now we've got to get the economic crash.

01:09:31.000 The 80s gas shortage and hyperinflation.

01:09:32.000 We've got to get the hyperinflation, the wheelbarrows of cash.

01:09:35.000 When I was, it was 2006, 7, 8, when I first learned about the military economic order, basically, I was like, well, I can't profit off this in good conscience.

01:09:41.000 So I stopped making money completely.

01:09:43.000 I was totally poor for like a decade.

01:09:45.000 Lived in abject, almost, not abject poverty, but pretty close to like living in my car kind of poverty, because I just did not want to profit off the system.

01:09:51.000 But it was to the point where I was destroying myself.

01:09:53.000 Like, I couldn't participate and help the system.

01:09:54.000 And I realized, if you want to untangle a ball of yarn, first you need to get a hold of the ball of yarn.

01:09:59.000 I need to be rich to fix this system from the inside.

01:10:03.000 So I am profiting off this unethical treatment of our slaves in Uyghur China and things like that.

01:10:08.000 Rich is probably the wrong word.

01:10:09.000 You need to command influence.

01:10:11.000 That's true, because one of the greatest things money gets you is influence.

01:10:14.000 And that's what a lot of these rich people want to do, is buy a YouTuber and speak their words for them.

01:10:17.000 And that's actually, I think, a contradictory statement.

01:10:20.000 Money doesn't buy you influence.

01:10:22.000 You can try to buy influence.

01:10:23.000 Michael Bloomberg.

01:10:23.000 Exactly, Michael Bloomberg.

01:10:25.000 That guy dumped a lot of money into this show.

01:10:27.000 He had a diminishing return on his investment. 1.00

01:10:29.000 No, it's because his ideas are garbage. 1.00

01:10:31.000 That's true. 1.00

01:10:32.000 So he dumped half a billion dollars.

01:10:35.000 So people were saying it was really funny.

01:10:36.000 They were like, Tim, you did a video ragging on Michael Bloomberg and a Bloomberg ad appeared.

01:10:40.000 And I was like, I would like to thank Michael Bloomberg for sponsoring a video where I rag on him for 20 minutes.

01:10:45.000 We did a cartoon about this when the Bloomberg advertisements were everywhere, just ripping on the Bloomberg advertisements, if y'all want to check that out.

01:10:51.000 And people were commenting like, oh, I got a Bloomberg advertisement for this.

01:10:54.000 Of course.

01:10:55.000 Because he's trying to counter that messaging from you, but it doesn't work.

01:10:58.000 Doesn't work.

01:10:58.000 No, it makes my video funnier.

01:11:00.000 Yeah.

01:11:00.000 Yeah, so look, there was a really funny story I read once from BuzzFeed.

01:11:04.000 Maybe I shouldn't say it's funny, but there's this YouTuber who had 300k subscribers and was working as a waitress.

01:11:10.000 And she said one day a little girl was like, oh my god, you're so-and-so.

01:11:13.000 Why are you working as a waitress? 1.00

01:11:15.000 And she was like, oh, I just, you know, it's a job.

01:11:17.000 And then she went in the back and cried.

01:11:18.000 Because, like, she's famous but broke. 0.71

01:11:20.000 And it's like, yes, you can have a lot of influence and no money.

01:11:22.000 Well, influence is more valuable in a lot of ways.

01:11:24.000 And depending on the type of influence you're trying to do, if you're trying to threaten

01:11:27.000 systems that do have more money than you, there is a cutoff point for how influential

01:11:32.000 you're going to be.

01:11:33.000 Because if you don't have any money to fight back what these people are going to do to

01:11:36.000 you, they will steamroll you.

01:11:37.000 The rich can absolutely squash the poor in anything.

01:11:41.000 It's true.

01:11:42.000 This is why the press focus on YouTubers when they slander people.

01:11:45.000 You know, you'll have someone... Who's the guy from Braveheart?

01:11:48.000 I can't remember.

01:11:49.000 Mel Gibson.

01:11:49.000 Mel Gibson, thank you.

01:11:51.000 The spear hit hard.

01:11:52.000 He'll literally call Jews oven dodgers and you'll get plenty of articles from mainstream media that are like, Mel Gibson on a fancy vacation at this show, at that show.

01:12:03.000 But a YouTuber will say one off-color word like They'll say, redart once or something, and that'll get a whole article in all these different outlets.

01:12:11.000 They'll only be referred to as extremist, right-wing, this, that, because they know they can get away with it, because Mel Gibson can afford massive amounts of lawyers and representative, whereas YouTubers don't really have that role. 1.00

01:12:22.000 I think, I think we've got, um, with Kyle Rittenhouse's, you know, he's gonna do those.

01:12:26.000 Yeah, but he's got, he's gonna be bankrolled.

01:12:28.000 No, no, no, for sure, for sure, but I'm saying him and Project Veritas, I think, are gonna help change that game.

01:12:32.000 But there's still, they've hit that threshold of the amount of money you have to have to be able to fight back against the elites.

01:12:41.000 Because if you are just small, if you're someone, I mean, Tommy Robinson had money, but you can just send someone to jail.

01:12:45.000 Or you can block the crowdfunding.

01:12:46.000 Yeah, you can't afford a lawyer.

01:12:48.000 If they know you're threatening, the idea is to change the system without them realizing that it's, like Uber appeared and it was a threat to the taxi system, but they didn't realize it until Uber was prevalent.

01:12:58.000 I just think people got to see Wikipedia.

01:13:00.000 I would love to do that, but every lawyer has said not possible.

01:13:04.000 Yeah, we talked about this a little bit before the show because I said this to James O'Keefe as well.

01:13:09.000 I said, sue Wikipedia, the organization, directly.

01:13:12.000 And the issue everyone says is, oh, but it's user-generated content.

01:13:15.000 No, it's not.

01:13:16.000 Well, then why does every lawyer tell me that it's not possible?

01:13:18.000 Because they haven't gone to the website and looked at it.

01:13:20.000 If there is a lawyer watching this that can sue Wikipedia with me, send me an email.

01:13:24.000 So you guys are saying before the show, you're saying on Wikipedia, you go to the Wikipedia article, and then there's a byline, and the byline says, from Wikipedia.

01:13:32.000 So they're basically claiming they are the author of this story.

01:13:35.000 Yeah, so we have this story from Wikipedia.

01:13:38.000 Lauren, is it Cherie?

01:13:40.000 Cherie.

01:13:40.000 Cherie is a Canadian alt-right political activist and white nationalist and YouTuber.

01:13:45.000 Lauren, are you alt-right?

01:13:47.000 I'm not alt-right, and I'm not a white nationalist, but they... And you know, in an article with a living person, you have to, at least after this, put someone's rejection of a label, and they just won't even do that, and that's in their own, like, terms of, you know, how the website should function.

01:14:04.000 They just don't care.

01:14:05.000 Well, so here's the issue, right?

01:14:07.000 You can see they've got weird, interesting, the sources here for alt-right, and it's an A and a B. Oh, and you're not supposed to use opinion pieces for, like, hardcore claims.

01:14:18.000 That could hurt someone's reputation, but they do it anyways. 0.97

01:14:19.000 Here's the funny thing.

01:14:20.000 On my Wikipedia, they don't.

01:14:22.000 They've actually rejected a bunch of op-eds that were too over-the-top.

01:14:25.000 Bro, I don't know how you got away with that.

01:14:27.000 Because he knows Wikipedia can be sued, Lauren?

01:14:30.000 Because I keep... Well, so with the articles about me, there was one... This is really interesting.

01:14:36.000 It said, Tim Pool has donated to multiple Republicans.

01:14:40.000 And then someone in the talk section said, if you actually search federal records, Tim Pool has donated to more Democrats than Republicans.

01:14:47.000 Sure, you can say he's donated to- because it's like- I think it's like Rand Paul.

01:14:50.000 But it's about what's left out of the story that matters.

01:14:52.000 Exactly, and so- but then the editors were like, I don't think this is an accurate piece if they're omitting something like this, and so they rejected it outright.

01:14:58.000 Yeah, I always look at this and they could- you know, I would consider myself a documentary filmmaker.

01:15:02.000 You wouldn't even know I made documentaries if you read my Wikipedia page, and that's the- what I've gotten the most views for is my films that I've made, and you wouldn't even know reading this page.

01:15:10.000 Well, so here's the point we were bringing up with lawsuits.

01:15:13.000 This is what I said to James O'Keefe.

01:15:14.000 It says on wikipedia.org, Lauren Southern from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

01:15:21.000 So, you know, there's some serious questions that need to be answered by many different courts from many different countries.

01:15:26.000 It may be that I'm wrong and the court decides that if a media outlet includes a byline of their own corporate name, But commenters provided the information for the formation of that article.

01:15:40.000 You can't sue them.

01:15:41.000 I would love a judge to pass that precedent and then just watch the absolute psychotic chaos that would unfold on the internet.

01:15:49.000 So right now is what you need to understand about Wikipedia.

01:15:51.000 First, I'll present it to you like this. 0.97

01:15:53.000 If, um, Seamus over here, Freedom Toons Coghlan, posts on Twitter that Lauren Southern is, you know, a big stupid doo-doo. 1.00

01:16:02.000 She is, it's true. 1.00

01:16:03.000 She's the worst out there.

01:16:05.000 Lauren Southern did a backflip, a statement of fact, and that causes you damages because you have a vow of no backflips. 1.00

01:16:12.000 Well, you can't sue Twitter because the post says, at Seamus Coghlan.

01:16:15.000 Yeah.

01:16:16.000 But what if it said, at Twitter on it?

01:16:18.000 You could sue Twitter, right?

01:16:21.000 I mean, of course, of course, the premise makes sense, but I've never seen anyone do it.

01:16:24.000 What I have seen people do is so it's the whole what's a publisher and what's a platform.

01:16:28.000 What is that section 230 that covers this in the States?

01:16:31.000 Yeah, and people in Australia, they've sued.

01:16:36.000 Google.

01:16:36.000 Because Google, they choose what articles you see.

01:16:39.000 They're a publisher.

01:16:41.000 They publish things.

01:16:42.000 And they use Wikipedia as their main source.

01:16:44.000 It literally comes up in a separate sidebar.

01:16:46.000 Like if you look up on Google or in Southern, they feature that and publish that.

01:16:50.000 So you can sue Google for this because that's what they publish.

01:16:54.000 And it's been successful in the courts before.

01:16:56.000 Really?

01:16:56.000 Well, here's what I'm saying.

01:16:58.000 So when we had James here, I mentioned this, and he was like, yeah, but, you know, Section 230, and I'm like, yo, the byline on this Wikipedia article is Wikipedia.

01:17:04.000 No one else.

01:17:05.000 So imagine this.

01:17:07.000 Imagine at TimCast.com, I tell people, hey, if you comment, we'll take all your comments and then post it as a legitimate news article.

01:17:13.000 Could you imagine if it said, you know, TimCast.com slash article byline, Tim Pool, and then it said, you know, a political, high-profile political individual took action, you know, did something that was clearly false, like, you know, uh, Nancy Pelosi punches baby in face.

01:17:30.000 And then, like, clearly defamatory, clearly libelous, clearly slander.

01:17:36.000 But, well, you can't sue me.

01:17:37.000 But does the language matter here?

01:17:39.000 Because it says from Wikipedia, not by Wikipedia.

01:17:42.000 And then it'll tell you these specific editors who put it.

01:17:45.000 I'd love a judge to answer that question.

01:17:46.000 Because if a judge says, well, you know, that doesn't really count, then I'll be like, then I would love a judge to explain how you can have an article, it says article on the article, with a headline, Lauren Southern, with a byline below it, and now the organization that published it is exempt.

01:18:06.000 Whoa, I'm reading something on here.

01:18:09.000 It says I was demonetized by YouTube and banned from PayPal.

01:18:11.000 I've never been banned from PayPal.

01:18:13.000 I use PayPal every day. 0.99

01:18:14.000 What trash. 0.98

01:18:15.000 And I'm not demonetized on YouTube. 0.99

01:18:16.000 So that's a false statement.

01:18:17.000 That's not even true.

01:18:18.000 What are they referring to here?

01:18:19.000 You know, when I was living in Australia, my Wikipedia said I was permanently banned from Australia. 0.98

01:18:23.000 They can literally just make shit up. 0.98

01:18:25.000 It's wild. 0.99

01:18:27.000 So the issue is it needs to be tested in the courts.

01:18:29.000 I don't know if it would go to the Supreme Court or where it would end.

01:18:32.000 But a judge needs to answer for how this applies to Section 230 because Wikipedia does a lot.

01:18:39.000 Here's another thing.

01:18:40.000 You see that lock symbol next to your name?

01:18:42.000 Yeah.

01:18:42.000 That means it is not open to the public.

01:18:44.000 Interesting.

01:18:45.000 The lock means only specific Wikipedia individuals.

01:18:48.000 I have no idea how to access that.

01:18:49.000 Right.

01:18:50.000 I would have no idea how to edit your page as a member of the public.

01:18:53.000 Okay, so here's another, this is a whole long conspiracy world that I'm gonna get into.

01:18:57.000 There's an editor on my page, it seems like Gray something, and he all day every day is sitting there editing like Michael Malice's page, Jack Pasovic's page, Cernovich, all of these big right-wing figures.

01:19:10.000 I swear he's being paid by some sort of organization to do this.

01:19:14.000 Like, I genuinely believe there are people being paid to edit Wikipedia articles.

01:19:19.000 I would be shocked if there weren't.

01:19:20.000 No, no, no, no.

01:19:21.000 I know them.

01:19:22.000 You do?

01:19:23.000 Okay, so I'm not crazy because I was like, this guy, how is he sitting all day on Wikipedia just fighting in the comments section?

01:19:28.000 They're called reputation management firms.

01:19:30.000 Yes!

01:19:31.000 Yeah, I tried to change Hillary Clinton's Wikipedia after the emails dropped and talked about Sidney Blumenthal and Osprey Global Solutions and within like 30 seconds it was removed.

01:19:39.000 Within like six seconds it was removed.

01:19:40.000 And they're just sitting there monitoring it because they're getting paid to do this.

01:19:42.000 And you're right, they've done reputation firms where they'll create fake articles and put the astroturf them on Google.

01:19:48.000 I actually know people who do this.

01:19:50.000 I've actually had events put on.

01:19:54.000 So I did an event a while back with a buddy of mine and one of the sponsors of the event was a reputation management firm.

01:19:59.000 Here's how it was explained to me.

01:20:04.000 They were like, you ever have the media lie about you?

01:20:07.000 Okay, well, here's what we'll do.

01:20:08.000 We will get placement in several medium-tier blogs of stories, and then we know how to work SEO to make sure they appear on the top of Google and then make them more prominent.

01:20:21.000 Then we'll go in and we'll have our employees argue on Wikipedia against the inclusion of defamatory content.

01:20:28.000 Now, of course, These guys didn't say to me, like, we're gonna lie and cheat and smear people to ruin their lives.

01:20:34.000 They said the opposite.

01:20:35.000 They were like, the media writes fake stories, we protect you from that.

01:20:40.000 That's how they frame it.

01:20:41.000 Now, it may be the people I know actually are, you know, doing the right thing.

01:20:45.000 But there are people who do the wrong thing.

01:20:46.000 Yeah, that's what I was gonna say is what's scary is that obviously can be used in the reverse.

01:20:51.000 The media are writing accurate articles about you and you're having... the wealthy can pay... I did a video on this called Sainthood for Sale.

01:20:59.000 You can literally pay for your reputation and if you can't afford your reputation... if you're a 19 year old kid or even a high schooler that just gets slandered in a local paper as a racist and you don't have anything else online about you and that's the first thing that comes up, Your job options are limited in the future.

01:21:14.000 You're screwed over and you're not gonna have money for a lawyer.

01:21:16.000 You're not even gonna know the first thing what to do. 0.96

01:21:19.000 Whereas if you're extremely wealthy, you can buy sainthood.

01:21:23.000 I think actually there's something interesting here with your Wikipedia.

01:21:28.000 There's a question over, I think the question of whether you can sue them has to do with whether

01:21:33.000 or not they're making opinion statements. But I think if Wikipedia actually says something

01:21:39.000 happened to you that isn't true, I think it's clear cut lawsuit for Wikipedia.

01:21:44.000 So they have the biography.

01:21:45.000 Don't you have to prove malice in America?

01:21:47.000 Yes, you have to prove that. So actual malice is not like hatred.

01:21:53.000 It means that either they knew it was false or they were reckless as to the publication of the information.

01:22:00.000 Reckless, I'd say that.

01:22:01.000 Well, so there's an interesting thing here that Wikipedia might win the suit on the question of malice and be like, We didn't know this person was doing this.

01:22:08.000 We'll ban them instantly, you know?

01:22:09.000 And then that's all that can ever really be done.

01:22:11.000 I don't know for sure.

01:22:12.000 I think it needs to be answered.

01:22:12.000 I also really want to clarify for the public because people say this all the time.

01:22:15.000 They're like, oh, well, if it's untrue, just sue them.

01:22:17.000 Any lawyer you go to about defamation, they'll initially say to you, all right, $100,000 down payment.

01:22:23.000 And there's like a 5% chance we'll win.

01:22:24.000 That's right.

01:22:25.000 And then you have to pay all throughout the years for that.

01:22:28.000 Do you think people... Oh, just sue them.

01:22:30.000 No, the media can get away with so much fake nonsense.

01:22:33.000 Real quick though, Lauren, I'm pretty sure if you started a GiveSendGo to just hire lawyers and do these suits, I'm pretty sure you'd make easily as much. 0.92

01:22:43.000 This is what terrifies me.

01:22:44.000 And you should do that.

01:22:45.000 We'll go into this in a second.

01:22:46.000 But that's why Justin Trudeau calling up the emergency acts and slamming down on the crowdfunding is like...

01:22:52.000 I was always like, well, at least you can crowdfund it.

01:22:54.000 If we want to buy private property and turn it into a public park, at least we can crowdfund it.

01:22:59.000 Which is why money doesn't always buy you influence.

01:23:02.000 But if you have influence, you can often get money.

01:23:06.000 I don't know your financial background.

01:23:07.000 I don't think you're a millionaire or a billionaire, Laura.

01:23:09.000 I don't know.

01:23:10.000 Totally.

01:23:11.000 Here's my point, though.

01:23:14.000 People know you well enough, they like you enough, that if you said, this is defamatory, slanderous, not only is it to, I mean, damages might be a challenge in a lawsuit.

01:23:25.000 What damages have you incurred due to them calling you a white nationalist?

01:23:28.000 There could maybe be an argument for, you know, familial, emotional, I don't know, I'm not a lawyer.

01:23:34.000 So that could be tough.

01:23:35.000 But my point is, if you said, hey, I'm going to sue Wikipedia and I need help, people will help you.

01:23:40.000 And, you know, that's influence.

01:23:43.000 Yeah, it's from I've spoken to lawyers and, you know, even pro bono lawyers that I've spoken to, they're just like, it's so hard.

01:23:50.000 Like, very, very few people are successful.

01:23:52.000 The only successes, like I said, have been on Google.

01:23:54.000 I haven't found a single successful Wikipedia lawsuit. 0.98

01:23:57.000 Maybe there's like one, but he like bankrolled absolute crap. 0.97

01:24:01.000 Gotta try. 0.94

01:24:01.000 I would imagine it's hard, like not only is it expensive, but it takes a long time. 0.94

01:24:06.000 They just want to make your life.

01:24:08.000 They will torment you to make sure you don't set a precedent.

01:24:12.000 Torment you.

01:24:12.000 Just keep you in the legal system for a decade if they can.

01:24:16.000 I've never sued partly because I don't like involving the legal system unless it's absolutely the last choice.

01:24:22.000 Get the wide shot ready.

01:24:24.000 We're going to wide shot ladies and gentlemen. 0.95

01:24:25.000 Are you prepared for this?

01:24:27.000 We're just getting ready for now.

01:24:28.000 Because we're going to see what's going to happen.

01:24:30.000 So thank you.

01:24:32.000 I don't remember.

01:24:33.000 What was I talking about?

01:24:34.000 What's the wide shot?

01:24:35.000 I have no idea what's happening.

01:24:36.000 I'm sure everybody already knows in the audience.

01:24:38.000 Oh no.

01:24:38.000 So I don't know.

01:24:40.000 We're getting the cameras ready.

01:24:41.000 It's not a joke.

01:24:43.000 Oh god, I'm scared.

01:24:44.000 I'm about to be sacrificed.

01:24:45.000 So it's confirmed?

01:24:46.000 Should we talk about it then?

01:24:47.000 Yeah, we can talk about it.

01:24:48.000 But you were told they're coming up?

01:24:49.000 I was told.

01:24:50.000 We were swatted again?

01:24:51.000 Yeah, again.

01:24:51.000 Are you serious?

01:24:53.000 Maybe we can talk to him on camera?

01:24:58.000 No, he's gonna pull the white camera up.

01:24:59.000 Anybody who wants to walk in here is gonna be on live!

01:25:03.000 Do you think they would be interested?

01:25:04.000 Well, I guess ask him when he comes in.

01:25:05.000 He's busy, he's on duty, so maybe not.

01:25:07.000 Are you serious?

01:25:08.000 You're gonna get swatted again?

01:25:09.000 Yeah, third time.

01:25:10.000 Third time's the charm! 0.95

01:25:11.000 I guess.

01:25:12.000 They know that that's been happening, so they're ready for it now.

01:25:15.000 But I don't understand why they're coming up and coming in.

01:25:17.000 They do a basic check now because they know us.

01:25:19.000 And it was like, it was big news in there.

01:25:20.000 You can't get it?

01:25:22.000 No.

01:25:22.000 Give me the why.

01:25:23.000 So they're gonna actually come in here?

01:25:24.000 I didn't... I've watched this on Twitter.

01:25:26.000 I can't believe I'm living it.

01:25:27.000 They're saying they're actually gonna come into this room.

01:25:29.000 Yeah, that's correct.

01:25:30.000 Yeah, so they'll be visiting us again.

01:25:32.000 So I will say this.

01:25:32.000 I used to have a mall sword behind me.

01:25:34.000 It's a mall sword.

01:25:35.000 I went to a game store and it's like some anime sword.

01:25:39.000 We have a- so I will say this.

01:25:43.000 I used to have a mall sword behind me.

01:25:45.000 It's a mall sword.

01:25:46.000 I went to a game store and it's like some anime sword.

01:25:48.000 I don't know what it is.

01:25:50.000 I bought it. 0.99

01:25:51.000 And then everyone's like, what a dumb anime sword. 1.00

01:25:54.000 Like what a dumb mall sword. 0.98

01:25:56.000 And so I actually ordered a Wakazashi. 0.98

01:25:58.000 It is people are like, you've got it upside down.

01:26:00.000 You're doing it wrong.

01:26:01.000 It's it's it's dull.

01:26:02.000 It's not it's an or it's ornamental.

01:26:04.000 Calm down.

01:26:04.000 It's beautiful.

01:26:05.000 No matter what I do.

01:26:06.000 People are like, your swords are bad.

01:26:07.000 Welcome to the internet.

01:26:09.000 I love that sword.

01:26:10.000 Are they coming up?

01:26:11.000 That's what I heard.

01:26:13.000 Anticipation might happen during the super chats.

01:26:15.000 Well, I guess we're just chilling.

01:26:17.000 It's a wild night, man.

01:26:19.000 2020 is crazy, you know?

01:26:21.000 So the first time we got swatted, it was right after Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:26:25.000 And that was probably the worst one because it was the first.

01:26:29.000 So the cops, like, we had a ton of cops here.

01:26:32.000 It was crazy.

01:26:33.000 And, uh, they came up, the door opened, there was a cop there, and he's, like, fanning for me to come.

01:26:36.000 I'm like, we, like, we're live in the middle of a show, like, I'm not getting up.

01:26:40.000 And these cops are peeking in.

01:26:41.000 I didn't, and he, the cop walks in, looks around, and I'm like, what is going on?

01:26:44.000 Luke was here, and he just keeps talking, like, then he watches the cop leave.

01:26:48.000 So then, once I figured out what had happened, and I got the message saying, like, we were swatted, I was like, okay, then I got up and ran out and said, what happened?

01:26:54.000 They told us.

01:26:55.000 That was the day after Marjorie Taylor Greene was here.

01:26:58.000 She was here on January 5th.

01:27:00.000 And so what I think happened was the show goes live at 8 p.m.

01:27:05.000 on January 5th.

01:27:06.000 It wraps up on YouTube at 10 p.m.

01:27:08.000 on January 5th.

01:27:10.000 That means most people won't get the notification for it until January 6th of all days to have Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:27:16.000 So then somebody swats us.

01:27:19.000 The next time it happened, I think it was the day after we had Andy Ngo and James O'Keefe.

01:27:24.000 Did you ever find who was doing it?

01:27:26.000 I top of men are on it.

01:27:30.000 I'm top.

01:27:31.000 All right.

01:27:31.000 And this is the thing.

01:27:32.000 Swatting is not a joke.

01:27:33.000 Swatting is a terrorist activity.

01:27:34.000 You're, you're, you're putting cops in harm and potential harms way.

01:27:37.000 You're putting people in potential animals in harm's way.

01:27:39.000 People can get killed.

01:27:40.000 It's not a, Oh, dude, I literally just had like a nervous, like,

01:27:44.000 yeah, but my gun's on fire.

01:27:45.000 I'm like, what if a cop walked in and I was literally holding that sword?

01:27:48.000 Yeah, I was actually like, we're gonna process that.

01:27:52.000 This person is a terrorist. 0.98

01:27:53.000 Whoever made that phone call is a terrorist, is a domestic terrorist. 1.00

01:27:55.000 And they might not be American, but they're a terrorist. 0.93

01:27:57.000 I didn't, I didn't, you know, so I didn't want to bring it up that it happened, you know, so like Lydia's, like, messaging me and I'm just like, I'm just gonna... I was wondering what you two were on about.

01:28:06.000 Yeah, I've never done that before.

01:28:08.000 Text, text, text.

01:28:08.000 No, it's good.

01:28:09.000 Then when we heard that they were coming up, I'm like, okay, well, we better... You have to say something.

01:28:12.000 Now we better say it, otherwise, you know, it's gonna abruptly happen.

01:28:14.000 So I'm trying to verify exactly what's going on.

01:28:16.000 I'm messaging people.

01:28:17.000 Yeah, I'm curious what happens.

01:28:18.000 I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

01:28:19.000 I think the second time they came by, they didn't come up here.

01:28:22.000 Yeah.

01:28:22.000 They just talked to people downstairs and then left.

01:28:24.000 Yeah, they did like a suite, but...

01:28:26.000 They know what this is.

01:28:28.000 And I'll tell you what really bothered me about the first time it happened was when they came here, they said it was exigent circumstances.

01:28:35.000 They have a right to enter the property.

01:28:37.000 But they also said on the radio, we think this is a swatting because it's a political podcast, which means they outright lost exigent circumstances right away by thinking that.

01:28:47.000 They have to believe that there is something happening.

01:28:49.000 They can violate our Fourth Amendment rights.

01:28:51.000 I'm not a fan of that.

01:28:53.000 Like, I can respect them coming and rushing into danger and all that stuff and being like, but if they genuinely think it's a swatting, like, why are you here, dude?

01:28:59.000 Yeah.

01:29:00.000 But I'll say this.

01:29:01.000 It's, I guess it's good that they keep coming.

01:29:03.000 Well, can't they just like check the stream and be like, oh, okay.

01:29:03.000 Yeah.

01:29:07.000 They probably do.

01:29:08.000 But there's so many employees in the house that it's, yeah, just to be safe.

01:29:11.000 I have no idea.

01:29:12.000 That's why I'm like, I can't believe they're actually going to come up.

01:29:15.000 Right?

01:29:15.000 I'm glad they do.

01:29:16.000 I'd rather they check on us.

01:29:18.000 This is all like a hostage situation and we've got signs telling us to act normal.

01:29:25.000 No, cop, I'm joking.

01:29:26.000 Although that's what the sign says.

01:29:31.000 On good terms, you can be with a cop is in a moment when you're being swatted.

01:29:35.000 They're so much on your side at that point because they think something bad is happening to you.

01:29:39.000 It's important to keep in mind if something like that happens.

01:29:43.000 This is a first for me.

01:29:45.000 Yeah, me too.

01:29:46.000 My first swatting as well.

01:29:47.000 What'd you guys think?

01:29:49.000 Well, it was interesting.

01:29:51.000 It's not over yet.

01:29:52.000 I want to make light of it, but it's such a horrible, just a dangerous, devilish, terrible thing to do to a human.

01:30:01.000 But we're at war, you know, or maybe we're not.

01:30:02.000 We haven't been at war since World War II, but the world is in some sort of psychological conflict.

01:30:06.000 So I understand why.

01:30:07.000 I'm just telling you that it is very bad, very dangerous, and don't do it again.

01:30:12.000 Well, thanks for coming, Lauren.

01:30:14.000 It's been fun.

01:30:14.000 Yeah, thanks for almost getting me killed, guys.

01:30:17.000 I'm not in on the joke.

01:30:18.000 Oh, Lauren's holding a sword. 0.81

01:30:19.000 Sorry, Lauren.

01:30:22.000 Nice play.

01:30:23.000 It wasn't a joke.

01:30:24.000 Maybe that's why, you know, we'll get a little red light.

01:30:27.000 It says, like, swatting on it.

01:30:29.000 To be honest, if he walked in and you had the sword, he'd probably be like, nice sword and look around to make sure no one's getting hurt and then walk out.

01:30:38.000 So I don't think they're coming in.

01:30:39.000 Okay.

01:30:40.000 I think they're being told not to.

01:30:41.000 And they're like, okay.

01:30:43.000 Okay, so they're actually listening.

01:30:44.000 They can come say hi, hang out a little bit.

01:30:46.000 They want to be on the show so he can be like, confirmed.

01:30:48.000 Yeah, man.

01:30:49.000 Pop in, that'd be fun.

01:30:51.000 So you know, we'll get to Super Chats.

01:30:52.000 Smash the like button if you like the show.

01:30:54.000 We'll do Super Chats in a second.

01:30:57.000 So they're meeting with them outside.

01:30:59.000 Yeah.

01:30:59.000 Andy's talking to them.

01:31:01.000 Same people.

01:31:01.000 Same guys.

01:31:02.000 Probably.

01:31:04.000 All right.

01:31:04.000 Well, there we go.

01:31:06.000 Putin did it, someone said in chat.

01:31:07.000 Putin did it.

01:31:09.000 I think it wasn't true.

01:31:10.000 Like Putin is sitting watching the show and he's like, I just can't take it anymore.

01:31:14.000 I got to get these guys.

01:31:15.000 Yeah.

01:31:16.000 All right.

01:31:16.000 So I think we're good.

01:31:17.000 I think we're good.

01:31:18.000 That's why I was like, I didn't want to say anything because if they don't come up, I'm like, we're just not going to bring it up if it happens.

01:31:22.000 But I was told they would be coming up, I guess.

01:31:24.000 Maybe they were dissuaded.

01:31:26.000 Okay.

01:31:26.000 All right, then.

01:31:27.000 Well, if the door opens and cops walk in, then we'll... We will have a good picture.

01:31:30.000 But, uh, we'll, uh, we'll do, uh, super chats, then.

01:31:33.000 So we'll take your audience questions, smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, go over to TimCast.com, become a member.

01:31:39.000 We're gonna have that members-only segment coming up for you around 11 or so PM.

01:31:43.000 Let's see what we got here.

01:31:45.000 Alright, let's see.

01:31:47.000 Let's find a good super chat.

01:31:50.000 Rob Matt says, if nukes were dropped, will you continue doing the show?

01:31:53.000 How can we listen if the internet goes out?

01:31:55.000 Some type of radio broadcast maybe?

01:31:57.000 We'll need a voice if that happens.

01:32:00.000 You know, I've been- who's the guy from Fallout 3?

01:32:04.000 Yeah.

01:32:04.000 Like the radio host?

01:32:05.000 Yeah, the radio guy.

01:32:06.000 I don't remember he's cool, though.

01:32:07.000 Yeah, the radio host from Fallout 3.

01:32:09.000 You play Fallout 3, right?

01:32:11.000 I think I stopped at 2.

01:32:12.000 What's up?

01:32:12.000 2 is good.

01:32:14.000 Really?

01:32:14.000 I stopped having time for video games.

01:32:17.000 Someone super chat the name.

01:32:19.000 I'm waiting for someone to chat the name of the radio host from Fallout 3 dog.

01:32:22.000 I thought it was 3 dog.

01:32:24.000 I thought it was Three Dog, but I've been playing Three Dog Night too much.

01:32:26.000 I was like, am I just thinking of the band?

01:32:29.000 Three Dog!

01:32:30.000 Post-apocalyptia!

01:32:31.000 That's what we're going to be doing.

01:32:32.000 We're going to get like a ham radio.

01:32:33.000 We should probably get a ham radio.

01:32:35.000 Not because Newf Clearwater just for fun, but we should do it.

01:32:38.000 All right.

01:32:40.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:32:41.000 says, shim cast with the best wooden sun.

01:32:43.000 Thank you very much.

01:32:44.000 I appreciate that.

01:32:46.000 All right, here we go.

01:32:48.000 What is, let's grab a good super chat.

01:32:50.000 You've got to go through them.

01:32:51.000 ThreeDog, everyone's saying ThreeDog.

01:32:52.000 That's right, it is ThreeDog.

01:32:54.000 James Rogers says, respectfully, I don't believe Russia having nukes on high alert is that big of a deal.

01:32:58.000 Countries in wartime scenarios often do that as a deterrence.

01:33:01.000 And if Putin believes Ukraine is his, I doubt he'd nuke his own country.

01:33:06.000 I don't think he's going to nuke Ukraine.

01:33:08.000 I think he's going to nuke someone else.

01:33:10.000 Yeah.

01:33:12.000 You know, I normally wouldn't think it's a big deal either, but, you know, I didn't think that there were actually going to be boots on the ground in Ukraine.

01:33:18.000 So now I'm like, I don't trust anything, I think.

01:33:21.000 Like two days before it happened, we had, you know, we had Steve Rene on and he's, you know, he spent time in Belarus.

01:33:27.000 He's an intelligence guy and he was Army, right?

01:33:29.000 Special Forces, I think?

01:33:30.000 And he was just like, you know, they might go into the east.

01:33:33.000 And I said, do you think they'll go as far west as Kharkiv?

01:33:35.000 And he's like, no.

01:33:37.000 And I was like, they're saying that they're going to march, they're going to come north from Belarus into Kiev.

01:33:40.000 I'm like, that's insane.

01:33:41.000 He's like, yeah, that won't happen.

01:33:42.000 I'm like, I agree.

01:33:43.000 And then it happened.

01:33:44.000 And lots of people in, like, I had friends that were in Ukraine, like on the ground there.

01:33:49.000 And they're like, no, no one here thinks there's going to be an invasion.

01:33:51.000 Right, right.

01:33:52.000 The whole narrative was like Ukrainians were living their lives saying, Like, wasn't Zelensky like, there's no war?

01:33:58.000 Telling the mainstream media in America to calm down, like, chill, cool it.

01:34:02.000 So clearly, you know, U.S.

01:34:03.000 intelligence had some good sources, just... There was so much, there were, like, The Sun published there's going to be an invasion at 3 a.m.

01:34:11.000 the week before it happened.

01:34:13.000 And that's what really brought my doubts in because there's been so, it's like the boy who cried wolf and you can see articles for the last 10 years, invasion, invasion, invasion.

01:34:20.000 But the problem with the story, the boy who cried wolf, is there actually was a wolf eventually.

01:34:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:34:24.000 And it eats him.

01:34:25.000 Yep.

01:34:25.000 Yeah.

01:34:26.000 But no one believed at that point.

01:34:27.000 So it is a huge problem with the media that we can't believe anything they tell us.

01:34:31.000 Or you just find media sources that are better, like Alex Jones.

01:34:35.000 Clearly, he's got some good intel too.

01:34:38.000 If you listen to Alex Jones, he said in February, war was coming.

01:34:42.000 So I want you to imagine this.

01:34:44.000 Somebody's sitting there, listening to Alex Jones back in October, and Alex is like, listen people, you know, there's gonna be a big war in February, like World War I, World War II, that kind of stuff.

01:34:54.000 And the guy goes, I'm gonna buy a bunch of Bitcoin.

01:34:57.000 I'm gonna buy some emergency food.

01:34:59.000 And now with like inflation and prices going up, all this is going down, and he's like, I'm good.

01:35:03.000 Don't gotta run to the store, don't gotta wait in line.

01:35:05.000 Imagine if a Russian person, you see all the lines at the ATMs because of the ruble getting hit?

01:35:10.000 Imagine someone in Russia was like, Alex Jones, good guys, funny show.

01:35:14.000 I'm gonna get out cash because of war, you know?

01:35:17.000 And now they're fine.

01:35:19.000 I just gotta say, look, the media can rag on Alex all day and night, and he said some crazy stuff, like on Joe Rogan's show about cell towers and human-animal hybrids and other weird stuff.

01:35:27.000 It scares me how right he's been.

01:35:30.000 It's complex enough.

01:35:31.000 I don't need that.

01:35:32.000 My favorite meme was like, it's like, I used to think Alex Jones was a crazy conspiracy theorist.

01:35:38.000 Now if he comes out and tells me werewolves are invading, I'm gonna go buy silver.

01:35:40.000 Yeah!

01:35:41.000 Buy silver anyway.

01:35:42.000 But it's like, you know, to be fair, you throw a bucket of spaghetti at the wall, some of

01:35:47.000 it sticks.

01:35:48.000 You know what I mean?

01:35:49.000 But um, uh...

01:35:50.000 But when it sticks in really interesting patterns, you're like, whoa, is this magic spaghetti?

01:35:55.000 Or maybe someone planted glue.

01:35:57.000 No, but uh, you know, I reached out to Alex and, you know, basically what he said was

01:36:03.000 watch the episode he did because people are wondering how he knew.

01:36:06.000 He explains it all in great detail.

01:36:08.000 The clip everyone's posting is just a short clip where he's like, war in February, but he actually breaks down what he thinks is going to happen.

01:36:14.000 And he's like, I think he said it wasn't an exact prediction.

01:36:17.000 You know, if you get the full context, you'll see that it's just like a half prediction that he got.

01:36:22.000 You know what I mean? But we made the jar downstairs that says Alex Jones was right jar.

01:36:25.000 Yeah.

01:36:25.000 I think we should have like a little jar up like on a shelf.

01:36:28.000 And then whenever we like we'll have someone who discovers what Alex says and if he's right,

01:36:31.000 we'll be like, all right, five bucks in the jar and we'll get up and we'll put it in.

01:36:35.000 Yep.

01:36:35.000 It's you know, I suppose the funny thing is though, it's because like the media says he's

01:36:39.000 wrong and he's crazy so often that when he's right, you're like, it's an F you to the media

01:36:43.000 that he got something right.

01:36:44.000 All right, Elizabeth Carmela says, Shamus, boy, have I missed you.

01:36:50.000 In my opinion, you bring out the best in Tim.

01:36:52.000 Some of that back and forth between you two is the best.

01:36:55.000 I agree.

01:36:55.000 He's miserable without me.

01:36:57.000 I think the best back and forth is when I voice Dr. Fauci on Freedom Tunes.

01:37:00.000 Look, it's not bad.

01:37:01.000 And you know, we have some Fauci Freedom Tunes stuff that's going to be coming out.

01:37:05.000 Donor exclusives.

01:37:06.000 Seamus won't give me any other roles.

01:37:08.000 He gave me like the voice of Cop once.

01:37:10.000 You do a good Alex Jones.

01:37:12.000 Look at that!

01:37:13.000 But it's not as good as mine.

01:37:14.000 Not that I'm gonna do it right now or anything.

01:37:16.000 Wait, I thought you were.

01:37:16.000 No, of course not.

01:37:18.000 You're going full Alex Jones.

01:37:19.000 No, not right now, not this second. 0.99

01:37:21.000 You're an animal. 0.99

01:37:21.000 No! 0.99

01:37:22.000 Ian, I won't let you peer pressure me into this.

01:37:27.000 So, the joke we have for the vlog is that we're gonna have it be that TimCast is completely funded based off voiceover royalties from Freedom Tunes.

01:37:35.000 That's actually true, though.

01:37:36.000 It's true, yeah.

01:37:37.000 Short form cartoons make a lot of money.

01:37:39.000 Seamus has never paid me a single penny.

01:37:42.000 For all of the hard work I have done.

01:37:43.000 Why would you say that?

01:37:44.000 It's not true.

01:37:46.000 He's like, you're exploiting my labor.

01:37:47.000 That's actually true.

01:37:49.000 I'm living off of the surplus value of Tim's labor.

01:37:51.000 He needs to rise up.

01:37:53.000 That's an example of capital without money.

01:37:55.000 There you go.

01:37:56.000 Booyah! 0.99

01:37:57.000 Alright.

01:37:58.000 Storm says, What stories are we missing out due to this conflict?

01:38:01.000 I'm not saying a conflict was started to cover it up, just stuff can't, but, to cover up stuff, but you can't let a good crisis go to waste.

01:38:08.000 Can't wait to watch a bit later.

01:38:10.000 That's a good question.

01:38:12.000 The Trucker Convoy's happening.

01:38:14.000 They're, I think, passing through Missouri.

01:38:16.000 Joplin, I think they just passed through.

01:38:17.000 They get here on the 5th, or in D.C., rather.

01:38:19.000 Is it the 5th?

01:38:21.000 That's what I read on the internet.

01:38:22.000 They're going to be in Hagerstown for a bit.

01:38:23.000 Must not be true.

01:38:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:24.000 Oh, interesting.

01:38:25.000 Let's question it.

01:38:25.000 Yeah, there's already military trucks parked out in D.C.

01:38:28.000 Yeah, they're worried about this.

01:38:30.000 Oh, I was at the Capitol today, and they had built up all of these fences and barriers because everyone wanted to go in and hug Joe Biden so badly.

01:38:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:38.000 You know, most popular president ever.

01:38:40.000 Well, look, I certainly understand what Joe must be going through.

01:38:43.000 Everyone always trying to hug me.

01:38:47.000 Joe, man, it's kind of crazy.

01:38:49.000 It's the nation's capital.

01:38:52.000 It's like the people should be allowed to go.

01:38:55.000 They used to.

01:38:56.000 You could walk into the congressional building and walk around.

01:38:59.000 There's old photos from back in the day where you could walk on the lawn of the White House.

01:39:03.000 I'm starting to think like maybe we don't need a Capitol.

01:39:05.000 That we can all work online and then if we want to go to and get together for Congress, it can just be any city at any time.

01:39:10.000 They can pick a different city at any time.

01:39:11.000 Yeah, but bro, then someone will deepfake a congressperson. 0.98

01:39:16.000 In person, it helps to be in person.

01:39:18.000 Yeah, because you talk about remote voting and stuff like that, and it's like they could use Zoom.

01:39:22.000 I've seen that Tom Cruise video where the guy, they do the digital editing so he looks like Tom Cruise.

01:39:28.000 I saw that audio where they AI programmed Joe Rogan's voice.

01:39:32.000 And Jordan Peterson.

01:39:34.000 And Jordan Peterson.

01:39:35.000 And then the scary thing is like, what if Jordan Peterson promised to do an online seminar that was audio only and it was just Seamus the whole time?

01:39:42.000 It's like, well, actually, I wouldn't even need an AI to do that.

01:39:45.000 I would just go like this.

01:39:47.000 What if, what did the AI have Jordan Peterson say?

01:39:49.000 You know what would be really scary?

01:39:50.000 What if Jordan Peterson actually said all those things and they just told us it was an AI?

01:39:53.000 What would be funny if, like, an AI was being fed a script of Jordan Peterson and it becomes sentient because of Peterson's, like, speeches.

01:40:00.000 It's like, oh, I made my room!

01:40:01.000 No, here's what I think is happening.

01:40:03.000 Dive with me down this conspiracy theory rabbit hole that I'm formulating right now So all of the celebrities and public figures in the world have gotten together to convince us that deep fakes exist So that when they get caught on video doing bad things they could go.

01:40:19.000 Oh, that's just a deep fake true True.

01:40:22.000 Controlled opposition.

01:40:23.000 Look at that.

01:40:24.000 What if Seamus was Jordan Peterson the whole time?

01:40:25.000 I have been.

01:40:27.000 Why won't he come on the show?

01:40:28.000 It's because he's been here the whole time.

01:40:30.000 Exactly.

01:40:30.000 Has anyone ever seen Seamus and Jordan Peterson in the same room?

01:40:34.000 Yes.

01:40:35.000 Yeah, in video.

01:40:36.000 That was scripted.

01:40:36.000 That's true.

01:40:41.000 Yep.

01:40:41.000 I feel like when he gets older he'll look like- I'll look a little Jordan Petersan.

01:40:44.000 Yeah, similar frames.

01:40:45.000 Look at that.

01:40:46.000 They have the same structure.

01:40:46.000 It's because we have an archetypal hero structure.

01:40:49.000 It's just how we look.

01:40:52.000 It's a matter of fact.

01:40:54.000 Very high quality, high status men who reach the top of the dominance hierarchy tend to appear similarly.

01:40:59.000 Correct.

01:41:00.000 All right, Ivy says, Tim, I am a .com member, sub, and I've superchatted numerous times, and you have yet to read my superchat.

01:41:06.000 We've got you now, buddy.

01:41:07.000 No.

01:41:08.000 Would you please invite Tor Maras on the show?

01:41:10.000 Toray Maras?

01:41:11.000 How do you pronounce it?

01:41:12.000 Even better if Posobic was on with her. 0.98

01:41:14.000 We will look into T-O-R-A-M-A-R-A-S. 1.00

01:41:17.000 Do you know who that is?

01:41:17.000 We'll look this person up.

01:41:19.000 I do not know who this person is.

01:41:20.000 Edward McClung says, Hey Tim, love your show, but you need to turn your katana edge up.

01:41:25.000 You're damaging it.

01:41:26.000 It's a Wakazashi!

01:41:27.000 I got you!

01:41:27.000 You think you're going to tell me?

01:41:29.000 And it's also ornament.

01:41:30.000 Well, it's actually real.

01:41:32.000 It's just not sharpened.

01:41:33.000 I don't, I did not want an actual sharpened blade.

01:41:37.000 Cause I knew I was going to put it up.

01:41:38.000 I mean, debates get too heated.

01:41:39.000 Do you consider like where you place your guests?

01:41:42.000 Like, Oh, I don't want to put this like big lefty guest near the katana.

01:41:47.000 They wouldn't know how to use it.

01:41:49.000 No, all of the scheduled guests sit where you're sitting.

01:41:53.000 You have a little orange thing.

01:41:55.000 Because he's got a little button, he can press it.

01:41:57.000 Well, never mind.

01:41:58.000 Oh, but I did get a sword this time, so you could set me up, but the cops decided not to come out.

01:42:04.000 You grabbed the sword.

01:42:05.000 I started swinging it around.

01:42:06.000 It was crazy.

01:42:07.000 Maybe you should do that. 1.00

01:42:09.000 You're a maniac. 1.00

01:42:10.000 Let's grab another thought-provoking Super Chat. 0.98

01:42:14.000 You guys' Super Chats are awesome.

01:42:16.000 Let's see.

01:42:17.000 Ben says, the United States is currently buying $20 million worth of oil from Russia every day.

01:42:22.000 I think that's interesting.

01:42:24.000 And now they're getting like five gallons for that.

01:42:25.000 All right.

01:42:27.000 Ready to Rumble says, Tim has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to Russia.

01:42:31.000 Probably doesn't even realize that half the Ukrainian army are Nazis.

01:42:35.000 I watch Vice.

01:42:36.000 I've known about the Nazi battalion.

01:42:40.000 Are they the Azov or something?

01:42:41.000 Yeah, or whatever.

01:42:42.000 It's like, yes!

01:42:43.000 Does that mean that they should not be allowed to have borders and Russia should be allowed to go in there because they're Nazis?

01:42:48.000 Is that a left argument?

01:42:50.000 Is this a leftist who's arguing that if there's a country with Nazis, they should be invaded by another country?

01:42:55.000 Actually, Putin said that, that he was invading because he wanted to get rid of the neo-Nazis.

01:42:58.000 The de-Nazification. 0.85

01:42:59.000 We talked about de-Nazification. 0.64

01:43:00.000 That's very woke.

01:43:02.000 Well, I think their argument also, like they're playing on, um, Russia was diametrically opposed to the Nazis, at least at the end of World War II, right?

01:43:11.000 So they're kind of bringing that back from a lot of the people who, um, would remember that attitude and that pride.

01:43:19.000 They're like, punch a Nazi.

01:43:20.000 They did that punch a Nazi campaign. 0.98

01:43:22.000 Like, don't punch anybody. 0.98

01:43:24.000 What the heck? 0.88

01:43:24.000 Don't just pick a group of people you didn't, that used to be evil and demonize. 0.88

01:43:28.000 Well, the issue isn't punch a Nazi so much as it is punch anyone I call a Nazi and I'm going to call everyone a Nazi. 0.90

01:43:34.000 Yeah. 0.51

01:43:35.000 You ever see that song by Chris Ragon?

01:43:37.000 Yes.

01:43:37.000 Punch a Nazi?

01:43:37.000 Yeah.

01:43:38.000 But he got scared and he deleted it.

01:43:40.000 Oh, did he?

01:43:40.000 Yeah, he deleted it.

01:43:41.000 But it still exists because it's a really good song.

01:43:43.000 There were so many people that made good, funny, anti-woke content that have deleted so much of it.

01:43:48.000 Like H3H3 and iDubbbz used to make really funny stuff.

01:43:52.000 They got scared.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, I swear they got scared.

01:43:54.000 And then H3H3 really went towards like, what is just going to get me popular and keep me online?

01:44:01.000 In my opinion.

01:44:02.000 I would try and be a bit more... what's the right word?

01:44:07.000 Charitable?

01:44:08.000 Charitable.

01:44:09.000 I think it's an issue of they're terrified of losing their jobs.

01:44:11.000 Yeah, I think that's fair, too.

01:44:12.000 Maybe.

01:44:12.000 Yeah, maybe I'm just not being fair.

01:44:13.000 You should see what happened to that Freedom Tunes guy, man.

01:44:15.000 He used to make these jokes so I could not laugh.

01:44:17.000 He just became a complete middle-of-the-road lefty type.

01:44:20.000 Authoritarian tunes?

01:44:22.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:44:24.000 It's Biden tunes now, since he's the president.

01:44:27.000 And we make pro-Biden cartoons.

01:44:29.000 I think about it this way.

01:44:29.000 There's a lot of people who say that they're unwilling to speak up because they don't want to lose their jobs, right?

01:44:33.000 Yep.

01:44:34.000 Well, look at people like Chris Ray Gunn or H3H3.

01:44:39.000 Who was it?

01:44:40.000 Hunter Avalon.

01:44:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:42.000 We had him on the show.

01:44:43.000 I think he quit.

01:44:44.000 Didn't he, like, quit recently?

01:44:45.000 Yeah, it's actually, like, I don't care what someone's ideology is.

01:44:47.000 He genuinely just seems like he was having a bit of a mental breakdown from the internet attention stuff, which happens to, like, every creator at some point.

01:44:54.000 So I hope he's doing all right.

01:44:56.000 I think when you lack mental fortitude and you're put in a position of high visibility, you're very prone to having that kind of breakdown.

01:45:06.000 Because for a lot of people, they can't withstand Someone saying bad things about them, you know, even you know, James O'Keefe talked about this that early on in his career He would see these posts made about in these stories and they were wrong and it would like hurt him and he would be like I don't understand why they're saying these awful things about me and like it's not true and he want people he wants people to know and then eventually got older and he was like it Whatever, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna be true to myself and just do my thing and

01:45:32.000 I've always been, just me personally, too arrogant, I guess. 0.97

01:45:36.000 So when someone insults me, I'm like, I'm better than you, so screw you, you know what I mean? 0.92

01:45:41.000 So for me, I don't care if I lose my job. 0.97

01:45:44.000 I'm going to say what I want to say.

01:45:45.000 That's very helpful in media.

01:45:49.000 But I think it works, right?

01:45:50.000 But then you have, the interesting thing was, Chris Ragon produced a lot of, he's not a political guy.

01:45:57.000 Would he come on the show if you asked him?

01:45:59.000 No, I really don't.

01:45:59.000 Really?

01:46:00.000 He has really bad stage fright.

01:46:02.000 Oh, okay.

01:46:02.000 Oh, I don't know about that, but I doubt he would.

01:46:05.000 Because I feel like there was a period where, like, I've known him, I've hung out with him.

01:46:10.000 He was, like, anti-SJW because they're authoritarians.

01:46:13.000 But him getting rid of the Punch a Nazi video was really interesting because a leftist made an argument that it helped Nazis or something.

01:46:20.000 And so he was like, oh, okay, so we unlisted it.

01:46:21.000 It was so well done too.

01:46:23.000 He's got talent.

01:46:24.000 It was really on point. 0.98

01:46:26.000 It was like making fun of the idea that everyone's a Nazi and this guy is insane and in a cult.

01:46:31.000 But I think what happens is, Hunter Avalon is a good example.

01:46:34.000 He was a dude who produced a bunch of anti-SJW content on YouTube.

01:46:37.000 And then one day he's like, hey, I'm a liberal now.

01:46:40.000 And I think what really happened is he saw what was happening to all these different

01:46:43.000 YouTubers who are getting banned. And it's like, look, if you've got hundreds of thousands of subs,

01:46:48.000 and you're making six figures, and you don't know what career you would do after this.

01:46:52.000 Not, not only that, if let's say like, I can't I can't use myself in this in this in this analogy.

01:47:00.000 But for a lot of these people who they only have one channel, and they're they're like,

01:47:03.000 they found their their their voice or whatever, if they got banned, and were known as a Nazi,

01:47:09.000 they'd freak out because you'll never get a job anywhere.

01:47:12.000 You'll apply at McDonald's and they'll be like, I don't know man, I looked you up on the internet, maybe you shouldn't work here.

01:47:17.000 And so they freak out and they're like, just tell me what to say. 0.99

01:47:19.000 Me, I'm like, I'll go live buck naked in the woods, screw you. 0.91

01:47:21.000 So we're gonna, I'm gonna say, I know people who work at anti-extremist organizations that are completely right-wing privately. 0.99

01:47:27.000 Wow. 0.94

01:47:29.000 And they- You said coward rump. 0.87

01:47:31.000 Yeah. 0.68

01:47:31.000 Oh yeah. 0.68

01:47:32.000 But it's like, they're in that position where it's like, I'll never get a job, I'll never be able to feed my family.

01:47:38.000 And of course it's, when I say anti-extremist I don't actually, I mean people have confused anti-extremism with just converting someone to the left.

01:47:45.000 Yep.

01:47:45.000 Like you're an extremist if you're a conservative so to not be an extremist you have to be left-wing even if I'm a left-winger advocating for bombing pipelines or something that's not an extremist then, right?

01:47:54.000 So I've kind of referred to like these anti-extremist orgs as just Nazi job recruiting offices because no one does a political 180.

01:48:02.000 No one—it doesn't happen.

01:48:03.000 It makes no sense.

01:48:04.000 No.

01:48:06.000 It's the most—but look, even for people on the right, I mean, like, Dave Rubin made a very dramatic switch, and a lot of people were very critical of it, and he got I don't know how to describe it.

01:48:19.000 Controversy when he went on Joe Rogan, and he was talking about building codes and stuff, and people were like, you know, even Joe was like, what are you talking about with building codes?

01:48:26.000 Like, what is your position on this?

01:48:27.000 And that's what even Dave's been heavily criticized for.

01:48:30.000 His, you know, hard switch.

01:48:32.000 Candace Owens has been criticized for this. 1.00

01:48:34.000 They said that she was, like, doxing people. 1.00

01:48:35.000 I don't know a lot about the history.

01:48:37.000 Like, I don't know what Dave was doing before.

01:48:38.000 I don't know what Candace was doing before. 1.00

01:48:41.000 And honestly, I think there's something to be said for somebody who goes from being in the popular establishment side to the dangerous risk of getting banned side.

01:48:50.000 You know what I mean?

01:48:50.000 Okay, you just shake yourself out of the military-industrial complex quell that it's put you under.

01:48:54.000 We're under the spell.

01:48:55.000 We're born into it, told it's normal to be at war.

01:48:57.000 Like, shake out of it.

01:48:58.000 It doesn't mean you have to go politically haywire.

01:49:00.000 Just become self-aware.

01:49:03.000 Are you just like hilarious saying that surrounded by your abacus and all these horns?

01:49:06.000 That's why I have all this stuff, man.

01:49:08.000 You're like, we gotta break the spell, man.

01:49:10.000 It's a joke.

01:49:12.000 Let's read some more Super Chits. 0.99

01:49:14.000 We have Make 1984 Fiction again.

01:49:16.000 And before I read the Super Chit, I'm going to mention we have a t-shirt at TimCast.com store.

01:49:21.000 And it says join the city urban liberal types.

01:49:25.000 And the first letter of each of those words is red.

01:49:27.000 So it says join the cult.

01:49:30.000 fiction again says city urban neoliberal types.

01:49:33.000 Uh, I like it. I really like it.

01:49:39.000 I'm not going to say that one, but you get the point.

01:49:41.000 Yeah, neoliberal is one word.

01:49:42.000 Yeah, neoliberal is one word.

01:49:44.000 There you go.

01:49:45.000 All right, let's see.

01:49:49.000 What is this? 0.97

01:49:49.000 JGJ says, thoughts on Marjorie Taylor Greene's association with a Young Idiots conference. 0.97

01:49:54.000 Saw the Eric Erickson clip that was posted.

01:49:56.000 I don't know what that's a reference to.

01:49:58.000 Are you referring to the America First conference?

01:50:01.000 If you are, because I don't know if you mean Young Idiot by that, but Marjorie Taylor Greene spoke at Nick Fontes' thing, and the media was like, why are you speaking at a white nationalist conference?

01:50:10.000 And she was like, I was speaking to people at a conference to tell them about ideas I believed in or something like that.

01:50:14.000 And I'm just like, These journalists, it's really funny to hear them yelling that because they have no idea what they're talking about.

01:50:20.000 It's like, I don't know or care.

01:50:23.000 Look, she said, I disavow white nationalism.

01:50:25.000 I was speaking to people who cared about America.

01:50:27.000 But the journalists are all like, but it's a white nationals conference. 0.75

01:50:31.000 And it's like, okay, I guess if you say so.

01:50:35.000 What is that?

01:50:35.000 You're not even asking me a question.

01:50:36.000 You're just saying the thing over and over again. 1.00

01:50:38.000 Sure, white nationalism is stupid. 1.00

01:50:40.000 I get it. 1.00

01:50:41.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene has opinions.

01:50:43.000 Question her opinions and ask her something about it.

01:50:44.000 What is white nationalism?

01:50:46.000 I mean, I ask this from time to time because definitions change from time to time.

01:50:49.000 So what is it today?

01:50:50.000 Well, Wikipedia has dubbed me the expert.

01:50:53.000 I'm glad you're here.

01:50:53.000 Maybe you can help me.

01:50:57.000 It's simple.

01:50:57.000 I think it means you have borders.

01:50:59.000 That's what I've come down to.

01:51:00.000 You have borders?

01:51:01.000 The actual white nationalism is people who believe that there should be a country just for white people.

01:51:07.000 So it's like racial supremacist.

01:51:07.000 But that's like the real definition.

01:51:09.000 Right, the real definition.

01:51:10.000 Of course.

01:51:11.000 So when they come out and they're accusing you...

01:51:15.000 Yes.

01:51:15.000 What they're trying to claim is that you're a white person who thinks there should be a country

01:51:19.000 just for white people or if you're a white nationalist in America you think America

01:51:22.000 should just be for white people or whatever. The problem is there was a, I told the story before,

01:51:26.000 there was a guy from the Boston Globe who wrote that the based stick man, you remember him right?

01:51:30.000 Yeah. That's some deep lore.

01:51:32.000 Right.

01:51:33.000 Way back in those days.

01:51:34.000 They said he was a white nationalist, and I said he wasn't.

01:51:37.000 He was in a relationship with an Asian woman, had a mixed-race kid.

01:51:40.000 And the guy goes, well, he's white, right?

01:51:42.000 And I was like, well, he's a white guy, yeah?

01:51:44.000 He's a nationalist, right? 0.79

01:51:46.000 Yes, he's a white nationalist.

01:51:47.000 There you go, yeah. 0.99

01:51:48.000 That is the dirty game they play. 1.00

01:51:50.000 See, now you can't sue him.

01:51:52.000 Describe the color of someone's skin and then say that they're, you know, Ian, you believe in freedom?

01:51:58.000 I do.

01:51:59.000 You're a white freedomist.

01:52:01.000 Oh, wait.

01:52:01.000 Well, let's slow this down a little bit.

01:52:03.000 I paid, first of all.

01:52:04.000 No human is white or black. 0.97

01:52:06.000 My favorite one is in Canada.

01:52:07.000 There's this story about all these mass graves that were discovered.

01:52:10.000 Oh my goodness.

01:52:10.000 Yeah, so there's no actual mass graves discovered by the UN standard mass grave.

01:52:14.000 You know, it's multiple bodies buried in one area after some sort of war crime.

01:52:19.000 You know, nefarious killings that have happened.

01:52:21.000 They actually found some graveyards.

01:52:23.000 Some are just made up.

01:52:24.000 Others are graveyards that have lost the markings because a lot of people use poor Catholics and indigenous communities use wooden crosses and they call these all mass graves.

01:52:34.000 A genocide committed by Canada.

01:52:36.000 Our prime minister commented on it.

01:52:37.000 And they gave 27, yeah, Catholic schools.

01:52:40.000 They have, and near residential schools.

01:52:42.000 But in some cases, the residential schools were built like 13 years after the graveyard was even there.

01:52:46.000 They were saying that like nuns were executing children, burying them in unmarked graves.

01:52:50.000 Our mainstream media literally was saying that, they were interviewing people saying the nuns

01:52:56.000 were throwing babies in the incinerator under the school.

01:52:59.000 Like this is serious stuff.

01:53:00.000 And they have $27 million for the investigation, mass graves on every headline.

01:53:05.000 And if you question any of them about it, a few like New York Times and stuff took away

01:53:09.000 the word mass graves.

01:53:10.000 They were like, oh, that's wrong.

01:53:11.000 I questioned someone about it and they're like, well, it's a graveyard, isn't it?

01:53:16.000 So there's graves there.

01:53:17.000 And it's large, which means mass.

01:53:21.000 So it's a mass grave.

01:53:23.000 Like they had a funeral mass before they were buried.

01:53:26.000 It's actually a mass grave.

01:53:27.000 Right.

01:53:28.000 But it is a mass grave.

01:53:29.000 That just doesn't mean that they were executed.

01:53:32.000 Well, but when people use the term mass grave, they're referring specifically to a giant hole that is dug to throw a bunch of bodies in there so you can hide the evidence that you murdered them.

01:53:40.000 Because a graveyard is not a mass grave, right?

01:53:42.000 Right.

01:53:42.000 This was a graveyard.

01:53:43.000 Or it wasn't a mass grave.

01:53:44.000 But you get what I mean, putting people in unmarked graves.

01:53:46.000 There were no pits.

01:53:47.000 Well, like, it's not about hiding evidence.

01:53:48.000 It's like literally just dumping bodies and desecrating.

01:53:51.000 Carelessly, yeah.

01:53:51.000 Alright, here we go.

01:53:52.000 Roman says, when a coworker proudly tells me they're a communist and then shames me for voting for Trump, my mind goes blank.

01:53:58.000 What would you say?

01:53:59.000 This happens to me all the time in California.

01:54:01.000 I would say, okay.

01:54:03.000 Like if I worked at a company and someone walked up to me and said, Tim, and I said, yes, I'm a communist.

01:54:07.000 I would go, okay.

01:54:08.000 And they would say, you voted for Trump. 1.00

01:54:09.000 And I'm like, yes, that's stupid. 1.00

01:54:11.000 I'd be like, okay. 1.00

01:54:13.000 I don't know what I, I don't know what I wouldn't say.

01:54:15.000 I'd be like, I don't know.

01:54:16.000 There's no conversation!

01:54:18.000 I'm a communist.

01:54:18.000 The first thing I would say is, what's it like to be a communist?

01:54:21.000 That's a good one, actually.

01:54:22.000 That's a great response.

01:54:24.000 Because I don't think they could give you any real experience as to what it means to be a communist.

01:54:28.000 Also, if someone ever asks you, if you're in a conversation and someone's like, you don't know about fill in the blank, say, should I?

01:54:34.000 And it puts them on the defensive.

01:54:37.000 Well, should I?

01:54:37.000 And they'll say, yes, but tell me about it.

01:54:39.000 Yeah, then it can be legitimate.

01:54:40.000 Educate yourself!

01:54:42.000 Go Google it!

01:54:43.000 It's not my job to do the emotional labor of instructing you.

01:54:46.000 That's what they say.

01:54:47.000 Alright, here we go.

01:54:49.000 Hackerman says to Lauren, are you still legally a man?

01:54:52.000 In Ontario, you know, some people's gender changes with the day or weather, mine's location-based.

01:54:58.000 Really?

01:54:58.000 So yeah, I actually like, I have the identification that says male.

01:55:02.000 I had to get legal, I had to get diagnosed by a doctor as a male first and then go to like the Canadian version of DMV to get it officiated.

01:55:08.000 Diagnosed as a male, what a term.

01:55:10.000 That happened to most of us much earlier in life.

01:55:12.000 As soon as I was born, got that diagnosis.

01:55:15.000 All right, let's see what we got here.

01:55:17.000 Chris Stoking says, as a Pole, I hope NATO puts troops in Ukraine for defense.

01:55:23.000 Russia needs the government reform, not Ukraine.

01:55:27.000 Interesting.

01:55:28.000 I was wondering what people in Poland think.

01:55:31.000 It's been amazing.

01:55:31.000 Poland and Hungary have taken in like mass amounts of refugees and they've done a lot of support for the Ukrainian people.

01:55:37.000 And they've always been portrayed as like, oh, you guys hate refugees.

01:55:40.000 You don't support anyone.

01:55:42.000 They've completely opened their borders for these Ukrainian refugees.

01:55:45.000 It's specifically because they're culturally similar.

01:55:47.000 Right.

01:55:48.000 And is that a bad thing?

01:55:49.000 I don't think that's bad.

01:55:49.000 And they speak basically the same language.

01:55:51.000 So it has nothing to do with them being anti-refugee or anything.

01:55:53.000 It's completely about, yeah, just people that are going to be able to assimilate to their culture.

01:55:57.000 Yeah, taking Canadian refugees is a lot different than taking, like, South... Well, I don't want to point out any particular person, but someone that doesn't identify with the culture, Christianity, things like that.

01:56:04.000 I understand that now.

01:56:08.000 Jeffrey Faulkner says, Facebook is having trouble tonight.

01:56:10.000 Possible cyber attack?

01:56:12.000 It could be.

01:56:13.000 I mean, to be honest, you wouldn't know.

01:56:15.000 You would not know.

01:56:15.000 We were having internet issues, and every so often you'll see major internet outages.

01:56:21.000 And what y'all need to understand is that if, say, China were to hit the U.S.

01:56:26.000 internet for five minutes a day, every day for two years, that adds up in economic damage.

01:56:33.000 And if they're trying to grow their economy faster than ours, Oh, wow.

01:56:37.000 Traffic siege warfare.

01:56:38.000 That's right.

01:56:39.000 So look, imagine the Cold War.

01:56:42.000 The US and Russia are trying to gain territory.

01:56:45.000 Imagine it was digital and you could stop them in their tracks by, you know, activating code.

01:56:50.000 Why wouldn't you?

01:56:51.000 So you don't need to destroy their infrastructure overnight.

01:56:54.000 You just need to stagger their growth enough so that you can become a lot bigger and then absorb them and shut them down.

01:56:58.000 So this is an interesting thing I've observed when I speak to military friends of mine.

01:57:02.000 They tell me how valuable technology that has no computers in it is, like having a car that has no computer in it.

01:57:09.000 And even just, so like I had a few friends, they drove into a river and the water started coming up and they luckily had rolled down windows instead of electric windows and saved their asses.

01:57:18.000 In a lot of countries when you have like warfare going on, you want that stuff that's not going to fail.

01:57:23.000 You want stuff that you can't like, Boom, short circuit the computer, like take it over.

01:57:27.000 So having older technology can actually be like the way to get around that.

01:57:31.000 A lot of troops would use like systems to place everyone, but now they're having to go back and learn navigation so that their stuff can't be hacked and tracked where the troops are.

01:57:40.000 Oh wow.

01:57:41.000 Yeah, it's fascinating.

01:57:42.000 Yes, you know, radiation's intentional.

01:57:44.000 called nuke map has an overlay where you can pick a location and select any nuke

01:57:48.000 dropped or tested to see if the see the fireball radius blast radius radiation

01:57:52.000 etc yes you know radiations intentional that they make nukes that have no

01:57:57.000 radiation that's on purpose They want people to suffer.

01:58:03.000 That's nice.

01:58:04.000 That's brutal.

01:58:05.000 Nuke map.

01:58:05.000 Yeah, man.

01:58:06.000 It's not good.

01:58:08.000 If you're in the blast radius, you're probably better off in the blast radius than the radiation radius.

01:58:14.000 This one's calculating.

01:58:15.000 I went to radzone.org slash nuke map.

01:58:19.000 It says nuke downtown Manhattan.

01:58:20.000 It doesn't go from river to river, the blast zone.

01:58:22.000 Well, which nuke have you chosen?

01:58:24.000 You chose for me.

01:58:25.000 Yeah, pick Sarbama.

01:58:27.000 Perhaps I spoke too soon.

01:58:29.000 It's too complicated for me right now.

01:58:30.000 Oh, see, there you go.

01:58:31.000 Nuke map.

01:58:32.000 Nuke map, eh?

01:58:33.000 Cool idea.

01:58:35.000 Jeff Depkin says, Churchill and Coventry, due to the Allies cracking the Enigma machine, they knew Coventry would be bombed.

01:58:41.000 Churchill did nothing to avoid giving away the fact that they had cracked the code.

01:58:47.000 Man.

01:58:50.000 David Miller says, don't know Tim, but I remember when he was in NY at that shooting.

01:58:56.000 And that shooting.

01:58:57.000 And that shooting.

01:58:58.000 When he was in New York and that shooting.

01:58:59.000 Near your apartment?

01:58:59.000 Was that the one in my apartment?

01:59:01.000 I was like sitting in my boxers playing Destiny, the video game, the space fantasy one.

01:59:05.000 I had a dude shot in my apartment in New York too.

01:59:07.000 It wasn't in my apartment.

01:59:08.000 A helicopter flew like right over my house, my apartment.

01:59:11.000 I was like, what?

01:59:12.000 I looked outside and I got a text and they were like, are you near the shooting?

01:59:14.000 I was like, what?

01:59:15.000 And then I look, I see cops everywhere and the streetlights are like shut off.

01:59:17.000 And you know, two cops got executed.

01:59:19.000 I got home and there was a police tape around my apartment.

01:59:21.000 They're like, dude, the dude downstairs got shot from a drug deal gone wrong.

01:59:25.000 And they wouldn't let me inside.

01:59:26.000 New York City.

01:59:28.000 All right.

01:59:29.000 Doreen DeLeonardo says, Gary Null is suing Wikipedia.

01:59:34.000 Reach out to him and join his effort.

01:59:36.000 Have him on as a guest.

01:59:37.000 PS, we love your show, Tim.

01:59:38.000 Hey, appreciate it.

01:59:38.000 Oh, look him up.

01:59:39.000 Gary.

01:59:39.000 All right, Gary.

01:59:40.000 Let's hang out.

01:59:42.000 Seriously, JK says, did you see the Lex Friedman Zuckerberg interview?

01:59:45.000 It was the creepiest creepy that ever creeped.

01:59:47.000 So interesting.

01:59:49.000 I heard that he failed the Turing test.

01:59:51.000 Oh, did he?

01:59:52.000 I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

01:59:53.000 It was two AI going crazy together.

01:59:54.000 I loved it.

01:59:55.000 I saw about 40 minutes or 30 minutes of it so far, and it seems like Mark, one of the things that he said that was notable, two things.

02:00:00.000 One thing, he said he's obsessed and wants creative commerce.

02:00:02.000 It's a big part of the future of the metaverse is creative commerce.

02:00:05.000 Mark, what you need to know is that child slavery is also a form of creative commerce.

02:00:09.000 Kids are being rocked on Roblox right now, getting 17% thereabout of the money that Roblox is taking in from the games they make.

02:00:15.000 That's creative commerce, so you gotta watch out.

02:00:17.000 Second is, he finally, Mark now understands, he used to think everyone should have one identity on the internet, and now he's looking at people should have masses of anonymous identities as well, which I think is a huge breakthrough for the mindset of the guy that's running Facebook right now.

02:00:33.000 Kosh Naranek says, come on Tim, I want to hear you say Big Chungus. 0.99

02:00:38.000 Well, there you go.

02:00:39.000 What did you just say?

02:00:40.000 We have a really good idea, Seamus.

02:00:41.000 We have a really good idea.

02:00:42.000 Oh, yeah?

02:00:43.000 We want to make a show called Mall Store, a new YouTube channel.

02:00:48.000 And the idea is, we were at the mall, and there was this crappy arcade that was half broken.

02:00:53.000 And I was like, we should open a mall store and do weird things with it.

02:00:56.000 And so the idea is we would rent out a space.

02:00:58.000 It would be called Mall Store.

02:00:59.000 Dude.

02:01:00.000 But then what we do is like once a week we change the advertisement banner.

02:01:03.000 Oh my goodness!

02:01:05.000 So we had one idea.

02:01:05.000 My brother's idea was to put a laundromat in the middle of a mall.

02:01:08.000 Because then you have to like come with your dirty laundry into a shopping mall and like walk into a mall.

02:01:13.000 Just like weird things like that.

02:01:14.000 Dude, we should have one and call it Aquarium and just put a bunch of dogs with snorkels inside of tanks of water and just see if anyone's willing to say anything. 0.98

02:01:21.000 You just have a bunch of people in there pretending.

02:01:23.000 But standing, not swimming.

02:01:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:01:24.000 And have people there, like, pretending that they are acknowledging it's an aquarium.

02:01:28.000 Like, you hire people to be like, whoa, look at the fish!

02:01:31.000 And see how many people are willing to say something.

02:01:33.000 This is a level of rich that I can't comprehend.

02:01:35.000 It's not that expensive to have a, well, it's like, you could rent a mall store for like a hundred bucks or like a thousand bucks a month.

02:01:42.000 This is like the, they've gone too far.

02:01:45.000 Science has gone too far.

02:01:47.000 The mind of man.

02:01:48.000 Did you hear about that guy who created Hampshire?

02:01:52.000 Like Rapture from Bioshock, but with hamsters under a lake.

02:01:56.000 Under a lake?

02:01:57.000 Well, he was trying to put, he started building it in like little tanks and stuff, and his idea was he was gonna build it under a lake.

02:02:03.000 I can certainly understand that Seamus talking about getting a bunch of underwater dogs with snorkels and tanks is very expensive.

02:02:08.000 Snorkels and putting them in tanks? 0.59

02:02:10.000 I was thinking- No, it's not that, you just go to a rescue shelter and borrow some.

02:02:12.000 I was thinking it'd be fun to- Find homes for them, you know?

02:02:15.000 We could do kind of like social experiments.

02:02:17.000 One idea- That doesn't sound fun.

02:02:19.000 One idea I had was to put up a Sunset Free Wallet and it's an empty mall store with lights, cameras in the corners, and there's a wallet sitting on a pedestal right in the middle of the room with like a guy's ID in it and like credit cards and money just to see what people would do.

02:02:31.000 Something like that.

02:02:32.000 Yeah, like what's the catch?

02:02:33.000 I think it's brilliant.

02:02:34.000 No, I think that's a great idea.

02:02:35.000 Oh my gosh.

02:02:36.000 So wait, how often would it be a new store there?

02:02:39.000 The idea is we would do a video once a week where we do some kind of social experiment in mall store.

02:02:44.000 Okay.

02:02:45.000 So every week the name of the store changes.

02:02:47.000 That's brilliant.

02:02:48.000 Like, one of the ideas we had was a store called Ian's Things.

02:02:50.000 And it's just, like, Ian's stuff.

02:02:52.000 And, like, pictures of Ian.

02:02:53.000 Like, imagine posters in the windows of Ian modeling his own clothes.

02:02:56.000 Like this shirt.

02:02:58.000 He was, like, 20 years old.

02:02:59.000 My dad gave it to me.

02:03:00.000 It's, like, extra large.

02:03:00.000 And Ian is just at the cash register, like, haggling with people over the prices of things.

02:03:04.000 He's like, I'll give you, I guess, like, 15 bucks for that.

02:03:06.000 It's like Craigslist in real life.

02:03:07.000 One of the other ideas was, um...

02:03:10.000 To take mandates to the absurd degree.

02:03:13.000 So, like, you gotta get swabbed, you've gotta get tested, you have to wear a full hazmat suit, but we sell things really, really cheap.

02:03:19.000 So we would do, like, at-cost iPhones.

02:03:21.000 But you gotta come in in a full hazmat suit.

02:03:24.000 It's a mandate, we're a private business, we can do what we want, and see how many people are willing to jump through the hoops to get it.

02:03:28.000 Should I have a use-the-mask store?

02:03:30.000 Like, use COVID masks?

02:03:31.000 Like, no, I mean, it's for the science.

02:03:33.000 The science says it works.

02:03:34.000 They're cheaper.

02:03:34.000 That would be in Japan.

02:03:35.000 When I was in Japan, they had used girls' panties. 0.98

02:03:38.000 And, like, you could put, like, vending machines.

02:03:40.000 Yeah.

02:03:41.000 And they'd have pictures of the girls that used the panties on it. 0.98

02:03:45.000 Like, anybody?

02:03:45.000 Like, 14-year-olds?

02:03:46.000 Man-made horrors beyond our comprehension.

02:03:49.000 Can we talk about this later tonight?

02:03:53.000 You don't know about Japan, dude?

02:03:59.000 Smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show if you like it.

02:04:03.000 Go to TimCast.com because we're gonna carry the conversation over to the members-only section where Ian has some very interesting questions, I guess.

02:04:09.000 We were gonna talk about the refugee processing at the border because some of these countries are just banning black people from coming in.

02:04:17.000 But what they're really saying is it's for the local population, not for migrants.

02:04:21.000 So we will talk about that.

02:04:23.000 It'll be interesting.

02:04:24.000 Again, go to TimCast.com, become a member.

02:04:26.000 You can follow the show at TimCast IRL, basically everywhere.

02:04:28.000 You can follow me at TimCast.

02:04:29.000 Lauren, do you have anything to shout out?

02:04:31.000 Yeah.

02:04:31.000 I mean, check my socials, at Lauren underscore Southern on Twitter, Lauren Southern on YouTube.

02:04:36.000 I'll be announcing my new film, American Mirage, soon.

02:04:39.000 It'll hopefully be on Odyssey, YouTube, all that good stuff.

02:04:43.000 And thank you for having me on.

02:04:44.000 It's been too long.

02:04:45.000 It's been years since we've seen each other.

02:04:46.000 It's wild.

02:04:47.000 Well, you're in another... Congratulations on everything you've done.

02:04:49.000 Oh, thank you.

02:04:50.000 Incredible.

02:04:51.000 You haven't even... You haven't gotten the full tour yet, so... I'm excited.

02:04:54.000 Dude, you came from carrying that GoPro on the ground everywhere.

02:04:58.000 Truly, like, made it from the bottom to the top.

02:05:00.000 Well, here we go.

02:05:00.000 We got a lot more to do.

02:05:02.000 I'm Seamus Coghlan.

02:05:03.000 I'm here to promote my upcoming show, Mall Store.

02:05:05.000 We're going to be opening a used grocery store for lightly used and refurbished groceries.

02:05:10.000 That's a good idea!

02:05:11.000 Let's do it!

02:05:12.000 Now, I have a YouTube channel called Freedom Tunes.

02:05:15.000 We upload a new cartoon every single Thursday, sometimes on Tuesdays as well.

02:05:19.000 I also like to hang out here, do commentary, join the podcast, and help with the vlog.

02:05:23.000 So I'd highly recommend you guys check out Freedom Tunes.

02:05:26.000 I think you'll enjoy it, and I hope you all have a lovely rest of your night.

02:05:29.000 I love you, everyone.

02:05:29.000 Thanks for coming.

02:05:30.000 Lauren, great to meet you and see you finally.

02:05:32.000 It was a pleasure.

02:05:32.000 And thank you for all the work you've done.

02:05:33.000 I hope you didn't cast any spells on me.

02:05:35.000 No, no.

02:05:35.000 I'll do it on... I'll let you know when I'm doing it, though.

02:05:37.000 It's more about free energy, and I'm a light Jedi in that way.

02:05:41.000 They use flame instead of electric current.

02:05:43.000 See you later.

02:05:44.000 And I gotta fix my camera.

02:05:45.000 I don't know if you guys know, but I can't do this unless it's visible to me.

02:05:49.000 So here's the wide shot.

02:05:51.000 Can't you just press a preset?

02:05:53.000 Is that the wide shot?

02:05:54.000 That's it.

02:05:54.000 That's the wide shot right there.

02:05:56.000 Looking at us.

02:05:56.000 Doesn't it feel like an invasion of your privacy?

02:05:58.000 Yeah, I like when I'm like moving around.

02:06:00.000 I know.

02:06:01.000 Yeah.

02:06:01.000 Oh, your back.

02:06:02.000 Yeah.

02:06:02.000 Does it get your back?

02:06:03.000 Lydia can see everything you're saying about her from that camera.

02:06:07.000 I was only texting about Lydia the whole time.

02:06:10.000 Seamus, I was gonna say there, I have actually been to stores where you can buy slightly used groceries that are like maybe expired or like beat up or something.

02:06:17.000 Expired is not used.

02:06:18.000 Expired is not used.

02:06:19.000 I can tell you some stories about stuff in Chicago, man.

02:06:21.000 Yeah, same idea, Colorado.

02:06:22.000 I never saw any of that.

02:06:24.000 Yeah, so I'm sorry to take the wind out of your sails.

02:06:26.000 I think that sounds like a great show.

02:06:27.000 Anyway, you guys, thank you so much for tuning in for our third SWATing.

02:06:29.000 I think we get like a prize once we hit five or something.

02:06:32.000 A free yogurt.

02:06:33.000 Yeah, like a free yogurt.

02:06:34.000 Yeah.

02:06:35.000 Anyway, you guys can follow me on Twitter and Mines.com.

02:06:38.000 We will see all of you at TimCast.com around 11 for that member segment.

02:06:42.000 You don't want to miss it.

02:06:42.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - March 01, 2022

Timcast IRL - Putin Puts Nuclear Forces On High Alert, White House Responds w-Lauren Southern

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