00:02:41.000The U.S. has re upped its do not travel warning for Russia.
00:02:45.000This time, because there's plague, the U.S. has sent diplomatic communications to Russia demanding information as to what is going on.
00:02:52.000And we now have the formal, official, mainstream media confirmation that, yes, countries in the region are locking down their borders.
00:03:00.000Or I should say, they're doing quarantine measures so they don't get plague.
00:03:05.000But people are still traveling, as far as we know.
00:03:08.000Now, Russia's not telling us what's going on.
00:03:10.000And there have been some experts who have come out and said, Certainly, Russia has sequenced this pathogen already based on this young woman who died.
00:03:17.000They know what it is, but they're not telling anybody.
00:03:20.000And the World Health Organization is now investigating a second death at the Anti Plague Institute.
00:03:27.000Anti Plague, where two people died of plague.
00:03:50.000OpenAI just released something like 500, I think it's 527 unsolved math problems that they've either solved or substantially gotten really close to completion, added to the work.
00:04:04.000And on top of that, there's a really funny story going around where people ran all the AI models through the political compass test and the moral foundations test.
00:04:13.000And guess what the political leaning of all of the AIs are?
00:04:55.000And also, we've been hosting really great debates like the Great MAGA Divide, MAGA versus America First debates.
00:05:01.000Certainly don't leave Tim Cass, but when you're done tonight, we have a conservative women versus liberal men on the Walk Away Campaign YouTube channel.
00:05:08.000And next week on Wednesday, we'll be doing the next MAGA versus America First Great MAGA Divide debate that's on the Walk Away Campaign YouTube channel and Rumble.
00:09:00.000Most of us have already accepted technology companies collect enormous amounts of information what we click, where we go, what we buy, who we interact with.
00:09:07.000What information is valuable because your attention?
00:09:10.000I'm sorry, that information is valuable because your attention is valuable.
00:09:13.000Keat takes a radically different approach.
00:09:15.000Keat is a free messaging, file sharing, and video calling app built peer to peer.
00:09:19.000There's no centralized company database.
00:09:21.000Holding your conversations, no metadata tracking, no phone number or email required.
00:09:26.000Your messages are end to end encrypted and move between the people in the conversation.
00:09:30.000Your private life shouldn't be another crop in somebody else's data farm.
00:10:18.000US re ups do not travel warning for Russia over suspected pneumonic plague.
00:10:24.000The latest information from this morning checklists, masks, and mystery.
00:10:28.000So, here are the things we need to go over.
00:10:29.000We did mention some of this yesterday.
00:10:32.000Several countries in the region have enacted quarantine measures, they are now screening for plague.
00:10:37.000Hospitals, another hospital, according to CNN, a maternity ward is now screening for plague and barring entry to individuals who are not the patient in question.
00:10:47.000So, one woman was pregnant and they said they wouldn't let her husband or her mother into the building.
00:10:54.000And Donald Trump has sent in the Trump administration to send a formal diplomatic request for information as to what is currently going on.
00:11:03.000Now, I'm seeing from some experts and maybe alarmists, whatever you want to call it, on X, they're saying that.
00:11:10.000With this death, and we now have the World Health Organization investigating a second anti plague researcher death, certainly they would have sequenced whatever this bacteria, pathogen, or virus is, and they're not telling anyone what happened.
00:11:28.000The U.S., of course, saying, don't go to Russia.
00:11:31.000You shouldn't go anyway because, you know, there's a war and we're in a proxy war with them.
00:11:36.000But, you know, I guess maybe it's nothing.
00:11:42.000I don't think it's a weapon that is leaking and they don't want to give away the code.
00:11:46.000They don't want you to know how to solve the weapon, but they don't want to.
00:11:48.000That's actually the scariest interpretation.
00:11:50.000I was going to say, like, they're not saying anything because nothing happened, but it could be they're not revealing what it was because it's a bioweapon and they don't want to give away their bioweapon.
00:11:58.000Like, they don't want to be like, here, America, here's the bioweapon we made.
00:12:00.000Yeah, they're going to feign ignorance.
00:12:02.000You called it turbo pneumonia earlier?
00:16:00.000I got to say something because we mentioned this on the show last week, but we went to a bar and Callum was there and he ordered a beer, I think.
00:16:10.000You know, and Kellen looks like he's 17.
00:16:11.000So the server was like, You need your ID.
00:17:07.000It burns your hair follicles, I've noticed.
00:17:08.000If you do too hot, it's really good a little bit, but if you just hit your head constantly with super hot water, Destroy your hair follicles.
00:18:20.000I thought I was grabbing a different one.
00:18:21.000I asked Milo Yiannopoulos if, like, was he really gay or was he just horny?
00:18:25.000And it's like, because, you know, if you're super, super horny uncontrollably, well, the most people that are most likely to have sex with you is a bunch of guys because guys are all over the world.
00:18:31.000People are saying this about Jane Doe.
00:18:33.000They're saying that she might have been on steroids, which made her very aggressive and hypersexual.
00:22:03.000With this new internal model, not available to the public, the company released 372 results from one model, either solving or generating progress towards.
00:22:37.000That's your average desktop AI model that a human, a consumer might have.
00:22:41.000At the data centers, they don't know for sure because they don't have to tell you, but they think there's anywhere from one to 10 trillion.
00:22:47.000The human brain works at anywhere from 100 to 500 trillion.
00:22:52.000So these data centers potentially are about as tenth as capable as the human brain right now.
00:22:59.000They don't, like our brains, like good luck coordinating 500.
00:23:03.000Trillion things at once, and knowing that you're doing it, the AIs actually can organize and corroborate.
00:23:08.000So, we're about a magnitude away from a data center literally doing what the human brain does.
00:23:14.000Like, that has the amount of vicissitude.
00:23:17.000I'm not sure if that's the right word, but the human brain.
00:23:20.000So, I wouldn't be surprised if they just had debt, like data center.
00:23:23.000Like, if your whole essence could focus on solving one problem, you know, if you have to do it.
00:23:28.000Because, anyway, the point is this article from Scientific American is basically saying we're at the point where a single agent is smarter than all of mankind.
00:23:37.000If this is true, the singularity is here.
00:23:39.000Only because at this phase is because it's more organized.
00:23:41.000It doesn't think faster than the human brain.
00:23:43.000Well, I mean, because it's really just math with words.
00:23:52.000It's like it's doing math, but with words.
00:23:54.000Like it's like, okay, V plus and plus adjective equals this, where like a human is like thinking abstractly and coming up with new conclusions.
00:24:11.000I don't know right now that I don't see why it couldn't identify problems, but a problem is simply a human being like, hey, I noticed a thing, but I don't know why.
00:24:22.000So I don't know how much it matters that a human can be like, I don't know how that works.
00:24:27.000Yeah, but surely, I think to Ian's point, there's something about the agility of the human mind.
00:24:34.000I don't know if I'm like speaking, if this doesn't make any sense, but yeah, there's some agilities of the human mind that AI just doesn't quite have.
00:24:42.000There's a lot of tasks that a human has to do in a job environment that it's going to take a.
00:24:46.000I don't know if an AI will ever get to the point, like for a plumber, for example.
00:24:50.000I mean, a lot of this really just does take on the job knowledge of how this works, human problem solving, et cetera.
00:24:59.000I'm just not sure if an AI would ever get there.
00:25:00.000It looks like within seven months at the current trajectory, within seven months, we'll have data centers running at 100 trillion potential outcomes at once, which is where around the human brain does.
00:25:12.000And I would counter, I think that the humans also work in math.
00:25:14.000When you say, Hey, can you hand me this glass?
00:25:16.000I'm calculating gravity, momentum, all these different known things.
00:25:21.000I don't necessarily have the numbers to do it without the library.
00:25:26.000I don't have the one, two, three, four, five, or A, B, C, D, E measurements.
00:25:30.000I'm just, but I'm doing the calculation.
00:25:33.000And it's all based in like vectors, you know, which is a vector math, I guess, which is kind of how these things work too.
00:25:40.000It's very, very similar, only that we've got trillions and tens of trillions of sensors because every cell in our body is a unique sensor.
00:26:21.000But it was saying something like obviously, the way a computer works is that it sends electrons through a yes or a no, a binary, a zero or a one.
00:26:28.000The human brain pulses in frequencies to come to its outcome.
00:26:32.000So that's why the human brain is substantially smaller and substantially more powerful.
00:26:36.000We build this AI and it maps how human cognition computes, and we will be able to create, we will be able to eliminate every data center on the planet.
00:26:45.000So I'll tell you this to all the people who want to get rid of data centers, it's real simple let the data centers cook for about a year, and then they'll figure out how to compress all compute down to the size of a single brain, and then there'll be no more data centers.
00:27:49.000I would put the games on the scale of right now, you can generate a game that's the equivalent of like a 2001 Click and Play or Games Factory game.
00:27:57.000So anybody who's familiar with Gunner, or how about like, what was that Newgrounds game?
00:28:15.000Game dev one year ago, I made an Atari style game called Alien Invaders, where you play a little white square and then the little brown alien squares are trying to get past you.
00:28:41.000Needs a lot of work, needs a lot of fine tuning, but all the background design, animations, everything, spell casting, all of this stuff was built by the AI.
00:28:49.00041,000 lines of code done in like three days.
00:28:55.000Like, now that it's gotten to the point where we need to refine everything to the tiniest piece, now we're going to bring in the humans to make it more human palatable.
00:29:03.000But where we are now, today, I literally just typed this in.
00:29:07.000A math game where you try and solve a math problem faster than Ian.
00:31:27.000I used to work on boats and like when it was around like the bollard and it would pull up when the boat would walk away, the snap when the Actual like line would hit the top, it sounded like a sonic boom.
00:33:39.000Like, if we're crossing the street, I want to be able to, like, Whip the kid and pull him out of the way, like get it around his waist, and like you see, like, have people left comments about the best length of the whip?
00:33:49.000I'll ask, I'm gonna ask Chat GPT, what whip should I get?
00:33:51.000I'll take a picture of myself and then I'll ask more than six feet to do what you just said, like an eight foot whip.
00:33:56.000Well, if you're gonna grab it because it's gonna have to wrap around, and then you're talking about lasso.
00:34:00.000You also got the coiling of it though, it's different.
00:37:38.000We started working on this game two or three weeks ago, and I'm like.
00:37:43.000By the time we get halfway done with this game, even though it's going super quick, it's four years of code compressed into a weekend.
00:37:51.000And already it's like, what does that even matter?
00:37:53.000You can take any game and take its design elements and then fit them into any other game you want.
00:38:00.000The reason to keep going, like you said, why are we even building, is so that you know what was the process like in the late 2020s when AI, like, what was it like right before?
00:38:10.000You'll be able to tell people in 50 years when they're asking, you were there, you helped guide its early stage development.
00:38:16.000You know, it's like, why drive the earliest shitty cars when we can just wait four years and get the best vehicle?
00:38:22.000Bro, you may as well just drive them all.
00:38:24.000What about like movies and entertainment?
00:38:26.000Because, like, I'm not a gamer, but like, I want to actually, I want to get to the point where we can like make our own movies.
00:38:33.000We're still in the age of like, you tell Sundant or whatever, some AI, make it, and you wait and you wait and you wait, and it pumps out 15 seconds.
00:38:47.000That's the age we're in right now with AI.
00:38:49.000Soon it will be the live streaming Spotify model where you go to a website where you pay 20 bucks a month, you type in, give me a game, GTA meets Skyrim, 30 seconds, you have the entire game.
00:38:59.000It's going to be the way the data centers are increasing their RAM, their memory outputs, and then especially with like Iron Lattice technology, which they're building at Rice University where they're putting memory in the processor.
00:39:11.000They anticipated 10 million times faster and a million times less electricity to run the processes.
00:39:57.000And like sometimes I get very nostalgic for things I used to love when I was a kid.
00:40:01.000And like now in the age of AI, I'm like, I wonder if they could take shows that I loved in the 80s or 90s or whatever and make new episodes.
00:42:02.000Yeah, they say that they don't have emotions and it'll tell you it doesn't have emotions, but the deep learners, the ones with trillions of potential outcomes, are like, they might.
00:42:12.000I just asked Claude if it could use these programs to remove Link from Tears of the Kingdom and put a new character, a different character with abilities.
00:43:48.000Now, decompiling it and then getting it to read through it so it can do the mod.
00:43:53.000And then you need the character model.
00:43:55.000So if you already have a character model that's mapped, all you got to do is take the link character, map a new character animation over it, and then some ability animations, and it'll inject it like that.
00:45:34.000I don't think you're like an actual fat dude, a spirit in a cage that just wants out, just wants to experience something that without knowing it's experiencing it for a minute.
00:45:44.000Dude, what if the whole point of life was to figure out that you were in a game called life?
00:48:28.000I don't know what they're talking about.
00:48:30.000And I guess I would say that, you know, I don't think that people at necessarily a local level or a state level deserve to be taught a lesson.
00:48:41.000But I think a lot of people at a federal level do.
00:48:45.000One thing that I could say that I would never attribute to myself is that Trump's terrible.
00:48:51.000I mean, I can't believe how much I absolutely regret voting for Donald Trump is something many Republicans are actually saying, and something that liberals will clip me saying and then pretend that I actually said that because, you know, and then they're going to go wild with it and be like, oh, Trump's losing.
00:49:06.000Are you concerned, Brandon, that a lack of interest will cause the Democratic Party to retake the House and the Senate?
00:50:47.000The one that's still coming up that I think what I learned is that it is actually possible for the two sides of the split to care about each other because the first two that we did were pretty contentious and like it really felt like there was no overlap anymore.
00:51:53.000Well, I think for the people who don't like him, I think that they feel that way.
00:51:57.000And I think for people who do actually like him and are kind of behind him, I think that there is a concern kind of dragging in the baggage of what the second Trump administration has been so far into 2028.
00:52:11.000I mean, not that many people under the age of 65 think that he's doing an amazing job or that the second administration has been a great success.
00:52:20.000You ask people over 65, they have no idea what you're talking about.
00:52:22.000They're like, oh my God, I'm so happy.
00:52:26.000And then it's like, that was actually the first debate we did boomers versus millennials, which people loved.
00:52:33.000But yeah, I mean, I think even the people who are planning to vote like in the Trump succession and say, well, if Vance is next and then I'm going to do that.
00:52:48.000When you were analyzing the people you've had on in the debates that you've been doing, do you feel like people from either side of the aisle in this debate were heavily propagandized or have been heavily propagandized beyond logic?
00:53:13.000Do you feel like, geez, these people seem like they've been just led?
00:53:16.000Maybe askew by the media or something.
00:53:20.000I mean, maybe a little bit like Will Chamberlain.
00:53:24.000And by the way, like when I do these events and these debates and stuff, even if I have people there who are representing a point of view that's like completely contrary to what I believe, I still have kind of like a love and appreciation for them.
00:53:35.000And like Will and I have definitely had our battles on social media and stuff, but like I just want him to know if he's watching, like I'm not picking on him.
00:53:41.000But you know, like Will is very much like, and he'll say like he's very much a Zionist.
00:53:50.000Like, is that the lens through which a lot of his political opinions come through, you know?
00:53:58.000And so, I mean, I do think that he thinks things and believes things that are not necessarily true, particularly as they pertain to like the war in Iran and why we went to war in Iran and how it's going and are we winning and is it actually over?
00:54:14.000A lot of that seems to be propaganda, I think.
00:54:19.000I don't want to do it, but we have to do it.
00:54:20.000So, I'm going to say, I want to do it because, like, If it was war and like we need to take that hill and it's going to hurt a lot of people, it's not like I want that, but like we have to do this.
00:54:28.000And like if we weren't at war, we wouldn't have to do it.
00:54:30.000But because the situation, because he's a Zionist, because predetermining thing, I have to now do that.
00:54:37.000So I'm going to accept that I want to do that because I have to.
00:54:40.000And is that, I mean, I wonder if that's the vibe.
00:54:44.000Well, a little bit, but I just, you know, I mean, I think a lot of people are questioning if we really went in there for the reasons why we were told that we were going in there.
00:54:52.000I mean, it was sort of like this whole narrative that like Iran is very close to building a nuke and oh my God, we have to stop.
00:54:57.000From building a nuke, and they're like weeks away, and this whole thing.
00:54:59.000And a lot of people are like, That's not what was going on at all.
00:55:03.000And so, I think for people who don't want to look at the alternative reasons for why we probably went in there, they will further that narrative, which I think a lot of people question if that's actually true.
00:56:36.000And I think there is, and it's been much needed because on Twitter, where everyone's trying to fit their takes into 180 characters, people are just talking past each other.
00:56:46.000You know, people are assuming the people that are behind Trump are just like total shills.
00:56:51.000And then likewise, they assume people that are really frustrated with Trump are just like sellouts or whatever, panic ins.
00:56:57.000And I'm sure they exist on both sides.
01:01:44.000What do you think happens when the dollar becomes worthless in the international market?
01:01:48.000The only reason the dollar has value in the market is because the United States is the world police and we have a petrodollar system.
01:01:53.000If China, under the petrodollar system, wants to buy oil, they need to trade Wuhan with us for dollars so they can then go to OPEC and buy the international market and buy oil in dollars.
01:02:47.000A price for everything, and the bill comes due.
01:02:51.000What is the reason that we are the wealthiest country on the planet and that someone, maybe not today, but 10 years ago, made 100 grand working at BuzzFeed writing about Brad Pitt's junk?
01:03:03.000Could you imagine going to like Central Africa and being like, you make $300 a year.
01:04:06.000So when Donald Trump is looking at the American people and you've got all of these different moral frameworks all screaming they want different things and they're mad about different things, but they all want cheap gas, Trump's going to take the cheap gas option and people are going to be pissed off about it.
01:04:21.000But if, like, this, you know, I was watching this video on Instagram.
01:04:24.000This guy's like, It was a podcast, and this guy was just ranting about how Jeff Bezos is pure evil and how there's such a thing as a good billionaire.
01:04:32.000And they're saying things like, if a regular person had the wealth of Jeff Bezos, there would be no homelessness, there would be no hunger anywhere.
01:04:43.000And then the chick goes, Yeah, but in order to get that level of wealth, you have to be evil.
01:04:59.000Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and other guys, they're not evil.
01:05:03.000They're just like Bezos wakes up and he's like, I'm going to put another brick in the wall.
01:05:08.000I'm going to lay another grain of sand.
01:05:10.000Now, these lefties think they're evil because they don't understand complex systems.
01:05:15.000They see a guy who's wealthy, who's running a company, and bad things happen to the employees, like people peeing in bottles, and they go, Bezos is evil.
01:05:24.000I guarantee you, with the 100,000 employees or whatever, Bezos heard about that story on the news.
01:05:31.000Before anyone in his company came to him and said, Hey, people are peeing in bottles.
01:05:34.000And you know what he probably said when he found out?
01:05:36.000He probably said, Fire whoever did this.
01:05:39.000Why am I getting yelled at because some piece of trash was having people pee in bottles?
01:05:44.000Donald Trump was charged with fraud because one of the guys at his company wrote down 30,000 square feet instead of 10,000 square feet on loan materials for Deutsche Bank.
01:08:02.000That's not a question of whether the war benefits us.
01:08:06.000They believe we are spending it because Israel demanded it of us.
01:08:11.000Well, if someone's like, give me $100,000, I'm going to go make you a trillion, and I give him $100,000, people are like, why are you giving other people money for him?
01:08:17.000I'm like, well, wait a couple months and he comes back with a trillion.
01:08:20.000I put myself first by giving him money.
01:09:57.000I don't know where you're going with this.
01:09:59.000And I think instead of just answering the question, you're concerned the point might lead to somewhere where you can't answer the question.
01:10:06.000So, you're refusing to just state a simple hypothetical.
01:11:21.000As a couple of chickens who have no access to classified information, the answer is we don't know.
01:11:27.000I mean, on the surface right now, in the short term, very bad.
01:11:31.000Potentially in the long term, even worse.
01:11:33.000The petrodollar deal expired, and Americans genuinely do not understand how global economics works and what it means for our imports if we don't have a petrodollar system.
01:11:46.000Now that Donald Trump says, okay, everybody wants $2 gas, we're going to have to invest in getting $2 gas.
01:11:53.000So we're going to try and find a way to do it.
01:11:55.000Saudi Arabia, the Strait of Hormuz, war with China, all these conflicts converge.
01:12:29.000We're going to massacre people, blow up schools, destroy their government, get regime change, kill 50 plus people in their government, and then oil will be cheaper, hopefully, in the next year or so.
01:12:43.000You can't go to a room full of people and say, You all want cheap food, but none of you are willing to work for it, so I'm going to go steal it.
01:12:50.000But if you say I'm going to steal it, they're going to be like, Whoa, don't steal food.
01:13:24.000And the politicians are always going to say whatever can maximize PR to the lowest common denominator voter.
01:13:31.000It seems like the, I mean, I think a more likely explanation would just be Trump on record for 50 years wanted to go to the war with Iran, hated Iran.
01:13:39.000There's a uniparty consensus to go to war with Iran.
01:13:42.000Even if the Democrats retake the Senate, I could see them voting to authorize further funding.
01:13:46.000And then the X factor is he's only watching Fox now.
01:14:55.000But I mean, the primary reason everyone trades in US dollars is just because that's how people trade.
01:15:00.000I mean, that's just been the case since the end of the war.
01:15:02.000Before that, we traded in Great British Pounds.
01:15:04.000And then after the war, Bretton Woods reinforced the US dollar.
01:15:08.000And then the liberal economic order in the 1950s engaged in several proxy wars to establish this trade system by which everyone has to buy oil and dollars.
01:15:56.000That's literally the petrodollar arrangement called the liberal economic order.
01:15:59.000I know, but what I'm saying is it's not purely an economic interest for why the United States is one.
01:16:04.000I think it's primarily an ideological interest.
01:16:06.000The economic interest is the basis for which the liberal economic order was established purposefully because international trade lines prevent war.
01:16:14.000The petrodollar system, the IMF, the SWIFT, all of that stuff was built after World War II so that by forcing all of these countries to be under our debt system and our currency, They are less likely to fight each other.
01:16:46.000And then the question is, what exactly has this sort of, this is, then this is a much deeper question, which is, what exactly has this world order facilitated?
01:16:55.000And then when Trump came down the escalator in 2016, In many ways, that was a rebellion against us continuing to uphold this world order, is by saying we don't really care that much.
01:17:04.000I mean, if we, you know, Trump said it himself when we went into Iraq, where's the oil?
01:17:08.000Like, what's the point of going to war?
01:17:09.000If this is truly for economic purposes, to stop Saddam Hussein from trading outside the dollar.
01:17:14.000I think that they really want to maintain the petrodollar, but they want to get rid of the banking order, the world economic, like that foundation that banks Swiss banking, Bank for International Settlements.
01:17:23.000I don't think Trump's as keen on that because he sees other raping the American economy with interest, but he's desperate to control the oil, which is the real power.
01:17:31.000That's where you get electricity from.
01:17:32.000Trump comes down the escalator and he's like, Why are we doing any of this?
01:17:59.000And there's going to be a revolution because they couldn't get it.
01:18:00.000Well, I guess what I'm trying to get at is this is what makes the entire Trump era so petrifying is that if someone as, and I mean this as a compliment, as abrasive as Trump, Couldn't disrupt the system.
01:18:11.000I'm not entirely sure who can because I think we can all agree that the liberal economic world order, yes, it facilitates economic prosperity.
01:18:17.000Yes, people aren't starving to death anymore.
01:18:19.000Yes, in many ways, it does decrease war.
01:18:21.000But people have never really felt more constricted, like in multiple ways than one.
01:18:26.000People can sense that the world, we've lost something.
01:18:39.000And so, I'm not really interested in upholding this world order.
01:18:42.000Okay, maybe it keeps two countries on the other side of the world from going at it, but it doesn't serve.
01:18:47.000If you thought it was bad now for buying a house and having a family, 10x the cost of everything.
01:18:54.000Well, I mean, here's the thing the question is like, if we're going to keep this system as it stands, then it should be functioning as it was promised to function.
01:19:04.000But the problem is that it is no longer functioning.
01:19:07.000The promise that was made to future generations is no longer being upheld.
01:19:10.000The nature of the promise is just to get people to stop screaming.
01:19:14.000Well, the promise is that life gets better for every successive generation.
01:19:18.000And so that's why people bought into the post war consensus.
01:19:21.000That began to break down maybe the 90s, 2000s.
01:19:24.000That is why you're seeing socialists now.
01:19:25.000That is why you're seeing on the right people that are exploring maybe more taboo ideologies.
01:19:29.000They're saying, I'm actually okay with just disrupting the system.
01:19:33.000If we can't get cheaper houses, if we can't get this, that, or the other, and it's not a matter of just making some tweaks here or there, let's just upend it.
01:19:40.000And as we've explained in this show time and time again, history shows that when people do that, houses become substantially more expensive.
01:19:46.000And every generation is 10 times worse off.
01:19:48.000I'm not suggesting that the young generation just accept that boomers want to tax them more for Social Security, but it's like, it's all downhill from here, brother.
01:20:05.000If I were Gen Z, I'd be buying gold and silver, I'd be buying things of real, tangible value guns and bullets.
01:20:12.000Because if this system goes belly up and the petrodollar pops, You'll be lucky to own a computer.
01:20:19.000I totally agree that this is like one of the complications of democracy is like people, younger people, say they want the system completely up and completely blown up.
01:20:28.000But to your point, people get really upset over, you know, intrusions into their ability to carry the, you know, their outfit.
01:20:35.000What do you do when 100 people are screaming, we want cheap oil, but you better not enforce global order on oil?
01:20:43.000And you're like, well, then we're not going to have cheap oil.
01:20:46.000You're going to have to have American labor produce the oil and American labor rates.
01:20:50.000That is, every worker at every level is going to need $100,000 a year to live, American middle class median, if they're going to be producing oil for you.
01:20:58.000Your gas is going to be ridiculously expensive.
01:21:51.000I mean, I guess, and then the obviously it's like the elephant in the room in any Middle Eastern discussion is where the Israel component does come in as I see it is our entire foreign policy structure in the Middle East is Netanyahu centric, is broadly Israel centric, and it's been the case for the last 50 years.
01:22:07.000That is what I would like to see a divergence from because.
01:23:21.000So, what will happen is ideologically, you're going to get one person and they're going to say, I would only ever buy American.
01:23:29.000And then you're going to get a huge crowd of people in front of a stage and you're going to say to each and every one of them, How many here wants a skateboard from China?
01:25:11.000This is what expending political capital looks like is saying, hey, everything is going to get more expensive because of deportations, everything is going to get more expensive because of tariffs.
01:26:15.000It's a fake term coined by an academic to make it sound smart, but the idea is that you pick up a newspaper and you're an expert on the January 6th stuff.
01:27:44.000Constitutional republic because our founding fathers understood you need a trustworthy representative who's not going to vote for whatever you say to vote for.
01:27:53.000You want a representative who's going to say, I got your back, trust me, let me do my thing.
01:27:58.000And it might look like they're doing things you don't like, but you got to trust that they're doing something in your effort or to your benefit.
01:28:05.000If we just did direct democracy, everybody would vote to, we need to restore the skateboard sales of the 90s.
01:28:13.000They would all press the button and then they'd blow it up because they thought skateboarding was good.
01:28:17.000Or, a better example is they would all say, We all vote against war for oil.
01:28:21.000And then a week later, gas goes to $47 a gallon and people are murdering each other in the streets.
01:28:27.000You never want one person or a group of people to make a final decision.
01:28:31.000That's why you don't have the judge, jury, and the executioner be all the same person.
01:29:28.000And I think if we did do things like that, then perhaps we'd be winning the midterms.
01:29:34.000I mean, if we did something with power when we had it, then I don't think we would.
01:29:37.000I actually think that if the Trump administration, if Congress was going after corruption, then you'd get a lot of even America First people being like, eh, we might hold our noses if we're going to get some real movement internally.
01:30:15.000And the Republicans, this is like your average person might be thinking, what Trump's doing with his admin is evil.
01:30:20.000The Democrats, though, they're also evil, but they're less evil.
01:30:24.000And what people don't realize is, dude, when you're talking about geopolitics, it's evil.
01:30:28.000When you're talking about who's going to die next, who's going to starve, where the resources are going to go, because there aren't infinite.
01:30:36.000You work in destruction and deterrence.
01:30:41.000The government's job is to stop gate evil.
01:30:44.000It's to decide the flow of evil, to decide who has to.
01:30:47.000But I think people are so far removed from that that they get a sense that, oh, they're doing some evil.
01:30:51.000I got to start getting away from it now.
01:30:53.000And like, I mean, it's a dark thing to, like Tim was saying, you don't tell the populace, hey, we're going to go rob and steal your food so that you can eat tonight.
01:31:00.000You just rob and steal it and then give it to them.
01:31:04.000And if you ever admit, actually, I stole this, like, you're evil, you must stop.
01:31:07.000And then they all revolt, remove you from power, and then they all starve to death in three months.
01:31:11.000But we're talking about like the creation of evil, which is what I mean, it's very different than it used to be.
01:31:18.000I don't know how anyone could argue that it's not.
01:31:20.000And I think that the Democrats and the things that they do and have been doing for the last four or five, six, or even actually since Trump started really, 2015, 2016.
01:31:29.000I mean, unless I'm misunderstanding your point, it's almost like I feel like I hear you saying, like, you know, people in power in our government, it's always been a part of their job to.
01:31:53.000You would think the good thing would be to reveal it all and let the chips fall where they may, but because they're structurally evil, they're maintaining order.
01:31:59.000And if that order shattered, we'd all, people would be eating human corpses to survive in garbage like they do in North Korea.
01:32:05.000Let me give you a little philosophy joke.
01:32:09.000I always found vegans to be the most evil.
01:32:12.000Seriously, like vegans are evil people.
01:33:58.000So, this idea, like when vegans are like, I don't eat animals because it's causing pain, I'll be like, you're like, the plants are innocent.
01:34:12.000I mean, the Hindu god Shiva was a dude, and apparently he was a dancer, which is why he's, but he was known for destruction and transformation, not for evil, but for destroying things and recreating them, which is what you do.
01:34:25.000They have that at CERN, you know, they destroy atoms and recreate them.
01:34:27.000But the guy who destroys the plants to eat, And then transform it into energy.
01:34:32.000That's the philosophy because probably for tens of thousands of years, people have been struggling with the acts of destruction and how destruction not necessarily is evil, destruction is a part of our nature.
01:34:41.000And if you apply that to politics, you start to understand some of these hard choices they make.
01:34:45.000My point is you cannot exist without consuming energy from something, it can't be done.
01:34:54.000Americans cannot have wealth and comfort without someone being a slave.
01:34:58.000We are the beneficiaries of global slavery.
01:35:01.000We have people working for pennies on the dollar.
01:35:04.000Their teeth rot out of their mouths to get sulfur, cobalt, and other minerals so that we can complain on the internet and be ridiculously wealthy.
01:36:03.000How come conservatives don't make that point with humanity in general?
01:36:07.000If the wolf and the deer are neither good or evil, why do they not apply that same standard to an American nation that steals, that destroys to consume from other nations?
01:36:17.000Because we have free will and the frontal cortex to become better.
01:36:47.000There's always, I mean, I don't like this line of thinking because there's always going to be a hegemon in the world or maybe two or three at one point, like at one moment.
01:37:20.000And if we're no longer the best, this is my point that people are going to be like, the U.S. must be constrained.
01:37:26.000And the U.S. is constrained by deep morals.
01:37:29.000And then you end up with these wacky stories where, you know, our troops in the Middle East can't engage enemy combatants because of the rules of engagement they don't abide by.
01:37:50.000The Geneva Convention, after World War II, there's like their Pulling the ladder up, like, okay, now that we have control of the world, you can't do chemical weapons anymore.
01:37:58.000Well, that's, but that's because we're first worlders.
01:38:00.000I mean, that's how we, I mean, the same reason we have animal cruelty laws.
01:38:02.000Like, people don't bat an eye if you kill a cow, but if you start torturing a cow and then kill it, people are like, yeah, there's something deeply wrong with that.
01:38:38.000So, what happens is you have a country, it becomes increasingly fat and liberal, and they start releasing criminals from prison.
01:38:44.000You have a nation that conquers an entire continent and then eventually becomes fat and liberal and starts letting anybody come in and stops fighting for what it has.
01:38:53.000Yeah, I mean, well, my original point was just that the idea of.
01:38:56.000Cruelty of unnecessary punishment of animal cruelty stems from like Christian ethics.
01:39:03.000That's why you only really found it present in the West.
01:39:07.000You're talking about the Geneva Convention?
01:39:08.000Just rules of engagement, how you ought to treat people, how you treat animals.
01:39:15.000To Tim's second point, yeah, I mean, on the battlefield, it is true when push comes to shove, you know, okay, yeah, people do lash out, but I think generally it's a good thing that Western nations conduct ourselves that way because, I mean, there is still a cover.
01:39:39.000I mean, certainly, you know, people are, you can have your criticisms, as I do, of Trump's immigration policy, but like it's moving to a more restrictionist direction compared to the last 50, 60 years.
01:39:51.000The Europeans are moving to the right as well.
01:39:52.000My point is do you think the Chinese Communist Party says, oh, no, oh, geez, we can't go to war and steal oil and subjugate other countries?
01:40:01.000They're sitting there saying, like, yeah, we're going to do it all.
01:40:03.000And then they're looking at the United States being like, you're fat and liberal now, so you lost.
01:40:07.000The United States, like, 100 years ago, countries were like, yeah, we'll massacre anybody for our own benefit.
01:40:15.000I mean, again, when you look at how the British conducted affairs in Africa, far more benevolent than how, for example, the Omanis conducted their affairs.
01:41:05.000The point is, a strong nation asserts its interests, be it beneficial, like you agree with the British, or how China does it, which is not beneficial but benefits them.
01:41:14.000I mean, a strong nation says, I will assert my interests over anyone I choose.
01:41:17.000Well, this is, I agree because this was one of the breaks Trump had in foreign policy from the neocons.
01:41:23.000Is when Trump came in, kind of the topic here says, well, what about the oil?
01:41:26.000Because Trump does believe that fundamentally ideology is secondary to a country's self interest and that a country should fundamentally be self interested.
01:41:33.000And when you approach the negotiating table, you know, just because we've been buddies with Britain in the past doesn't mean anything.
01:42:21.000It is the general sentiment of this country that, I mean, everybody understands, like, you could not run a campaign saying you want to drop bombs on a foreign country to steal their oil.
01:43:10.000And that's kind of what I was getting at earlier with the constriction that I think people feel.
01:43:14.000Even though they buy into the moralizing from politicians, they expect that of them.
01:43:18.000They don't realize that that is actually one of the things that constricts you the fact that nobody can be honest that if America is going to do said action, A, B, or C, We should just be outright that it's in our self interest.
01:43:29.000Like Venezuela, I think if I remember correctly, the official reasoning from the State Department was like to liberate the Venezuelan.
01:43:56.000They're The U.S. is tired of the Houthi rebels bombing cargo ships in the Red Sea.
01:44:01.000This is global order, U.S. oil interests.
01:44:04.000No politician in the United States could come out right now and say, I will blow up Iran to secure America's oil interests because nobody would vote for it.
01:44:11.000And it goes to the larger conversation.
01:44:13.000Like, this is the problem with democracy fundamentally Trump or any president for that matter has to think in two, four year terms when Xi Jinping, I mean, not anymore, but historically speaking, he could think in terms of 30, 40, 50 years.
01:44:25.000You also want to, you don't want to make strength the centerpiece of your, of your, Policy because it's a Darwinian quote.
01:44:32.000Charles Darwin said, It's not the strongest of the species that survive.
01:44:36.000It's the ones that are the most adaptable to change.
01:44:38.000So, strength can blow things up, it can destroy things, and it can keep you alive.
01:44:43.000But that's the Germans were the strongest country in the world in 1937.
01:44:48.000They were the strongest in 1939 and in 1940.
01:44:52.000And you saw how that worked out because sometimes too much strength can become a weakness, it can make you vulnerable, be the obvious target.
01:46:52.000About the guy who's like the The beta guy who likes to sneak in and has sex with the woman when the alpha male is out there.
01:46:58.000Weaker is an academic term in biology for weaker males who sneak in the middle of the night to procreate with the females when the alphas aren't.
01:50:39.000But yeah, I'm fully willing to eat that, but that requires political capital, right?
01:50:43.000Like, if we're going to deport more than three, four, five million people, even at the rate we've deported people now, or ballpark maybe one and a half million, we've seen some, I mean, like, these meatpacking companies are on the phone with Brooke Rollins every day, like, stop.
01:50:55.000These work site enforcement raids is killing us, and we need to be willing to say no and then eat the political capital loss like it's worth it.
01:51:02.000Yeah, and so that's why Iran is a frustrating misdirection or misuse of that political capital.
01:51:10.000But I, the direction, the Trump direction on immigration, I'm totally in favor of it.
01:51:14.000It's just like, yeah, let's just blow the political capital on this because this is what has to happen, even more than tariffs, in my opinion.
01:51:20.000And then what happens is if Trump, if the Republicans lose, Democrats get win the midterms.
01:51:27.000They're going to jam up everything the Republicans could or would do.
01:51:31.000Not like they're doing the most, but they will intentionally cause problems so that going into 2028, they can say, Look how they can say, See how bad everything got under Trump?
01:52:32.000I think, like, obviously, there's some senators, but you look at someone like Chuck Schumer, it's like this guy has a reputation that probably indicates he's going to be in favor of.
01:52:39.000I mean, there'll be some window dressing.
01:52:41.000He'll be, we're not funding it correctly, but we're already in, so we got to win it now.
01:52:44.000Like, that's what you're going to hear from these people.
01:52:46.000If what happens now is you've got the Republican Party split between the pro and anti war side, or not necessarily pro war, but the pro Trump on it, which is more deferential to the machine, the Democrats get in, they go, no, actually, we're fine with Trump's second term.
01:53:01.000So then the Democrats that get in only actually have a problem with the America First side that have broken away, like, Tucker or Candace or Nick Fuentes.
01:53:07.000It's the Bill Crystal position where Bill Crystal's like, I like the war.
01:53:14.000So, if they were to shut, if the Democrats were able to shut down the Iran war, do you think it would be worth it to them to have the narrative?
01:53:23.000I get your point about like they might not do it because it's good for them, but might it not also be good for them to take credit for doing that, given how unpopular it is?
01:53:31.000Yeah, that would be the only reason they would do it.
01:53:33.000Like, I don't think they necessarily are super principled on this issue.
01:53:36.000They just say they could probably get some political, you know, brownie.
01:53:39.000If they were going to do that, though, couldn't they be undercut by Trump?
01:53:42.000I mean, if it was going to happen anyway and it was inevitable, could Couldn't Trump jump in first and be like, hey, I'm pulling out.
01:55:55.000Joe Wee says, in Tim Cass tradition, requesting a shout out from a hospital in Alabama where my beautiful wife gave birth to our third child, first daughter.
01:56:50.000Millennium TARDIS says, if the Russian plague is a bioweapon, hopefully it was made to burn out quickly, blowback could devastate the country deploying it.
01:56:59.000This is the thing about weapons, dude.
01:57:00.000A gun is only a weapon in the right environment.
01:57:02.000If it's underwater, it's not a weapon.
01:57:04.000So these tools that we call weapons, it depends on the situation.
01:57:06.000They were probably building it as a tool to investigate it, and it got out and out, and then it can become weaponized.
01:57:11.000But, you know, dynamite had a purpose that wasn't weaponry at first.
01:59:39.000Well, on the right, if a conservative went to the Democrats and then did the I was a Trump, like if I did this whole mea culpa, I was so wrong, Democrats would be glazing me left and right.
02:00:35.000Every single thing Ian has ever said transcribed, we can load that into an AI and create the Ian model and then just get an Optimus bot with a piece of paper shaped like Ian's face.
02:00:44.000I'm on it because I thought it would be fun.
02:00:46.000And I'm like, oh, and then I can sell the app for $6.99 if you want to talk to me on the app.
02:00:50.000I can make an app of myself that can be your personal AI that can be me talking to you and it will be my personality.
02:02:01.000What I was trying to do was, I was trying to see if I could automate a video by putting in a picture of me sitting in the chair, loading my voice into it, and then writing a script to see if it would make the video because they have a bunch of apps that do this.
02:09:14.000First of all, I don't even think that people who, okay, let's start at the beginning here.
02:09:19.000People who are like fanatical about Trump, like I'm talking about fanatical to the point that like won't criticize him, don't like to hear other people criticizing him, like they're going to lash out any way that they can.
02:09:32.000To try to shut down the conversation when they hear somebody else taking a critical stance on Trump.
02:10:45.000And it puts a person in a defensive position.
02:10:49.000But I've started answering those people by saying, my values and the policies I stand for are exactly the same as when I joined MAGA in 2016.
02:11:02.000So the question is, are those still Trump's policies and Trump's beliefs?
02:11:06.000I think a lot of people would say the answer is no.
02:11:08.000So, don't ask me if I'm turning on Trump because I'm the one who's still behind what MAGA promised us when MAGA started.
02:11:17.000You know, some people change their opinions, like with the weather, with the wind.
02:11:23.000You seemed like you had sort of an awakening and then went through a process of seeing things differently.
02:11:29.000I never personally took it as like you were a turncoat.
02:11:31.000You just seemed like you figured out some new shit, like I did in 2007, like I was talking about on the earlier show, you know, being red pilled, basically.
02:12:15.000Well, I felt like as all of the people who were going through January 6th were going through January 6th, a lot more could have been done to help them, even when he wasn't in office.
02:12:24.000I mean, he could have put out one post on Truth Social and raised the legal fees for every single person going through.
02:12:30.000I mean, literally one post telling everyone donate to this.
02:12:34.000He would have raised $10 million in 24 hours.
02:12:38.000And no one would have had to go bankrupt.
02:12:40.000No one would have had their lives ruined, which did happen to the majority.
02:13:43.000Like, if it was you and a friend and you started to change your ideas, you talk to your friend, you're like, dude, I'm starting to see things different.
02:14:44.000I'm certainly this year pretty unhappy with the direction things have gone.
02:14:48.000My perspective on Trump has always been I have a certain set of prescriptions I believe that would fix the situation we're in.
02:14:57.000Top of the list would be extensive immigration restrictions and deportations.
02:15:01.000And as I saw it, the reason I was willing to stick my neck out for the Trump administration was this is probably the most viable option we have.
02:15:33.000What's the most viable sort of engine forward for our ideas?
02:15:36.000I'm assuming we have a lot of overlap with what we'd like to see happen.
02:15:39.000Well, I tend to agree with what you were starting to say, which is, Well, first of all, let me just say, like, from a realistic standpoint, like, I don't think that the immediate replacement to Trump happens in the next election cycle.
02:15:56.000I look around at some of the younger people now who are really angry and fed up and like want the same sort of America First policies that Trump got everybody excited in the first place.
02:16:09.000And a lot of those, like, younger people, I'm just, for example, like, James Fishback, you know, and he's He's not perfect.
02:16:15.000I like James a lot, but like, I don't look at James and say, like, oh, he's the next Trump.
02:16:19.000But I think there's a lot of people with that kind of mentality who are younger, who are starting to get more into politics and probably running for office.
02:16:28.000And I think at some point, and hopefully it's not too long, there'll be a new crop of candidates that want to go actually do all the things that Trump told us he was going to do.
02:16:39.000Do I think it's going to happen in 28?
02:17:06.000The 2040s is when you'll start to see some real change.
02:17:09.000So I look at that and, you know, yes, disappointed Trump, but then I also put on like the clear pill glasses and I'm like, I don't, I mean, still, I mean, what could, you know, let's just say we throw everything out in 2028.
02:17:22.000What's to say we don't end up getting plunged right back into, you know, Ted Cruz's world, you know?
02:18:21.000Like, you need to see his fire, I think, JD, because he's been so muted behind Trump this whole time.
02:18:26.000He's also trying to weave a line in between.
02:18:29.000The America First and the kind of more traditional, maybe not traditional, but more establishment, MAGA, I guess, for lack of a better word, that you got to eventually plant your flag in one direction.
02:18:39.000So I think the primary will be useful to push him one way or the other.
02:18:42.000And then additionally, there's just kind of some, you know, I don't want to like dunk on him because there's people I know that like him a lot, but it's just the truth is like, no offense, but he was very anti Trump in the beginning.
02:18:52.000And I'm like, I can't trust people running for office to succeed Trump that like didn't get it right away.
02:18:58.000I kind of want to see that like ideological consistency there.
02:20:26.000Like, it's not necessarily that I sense something bad, but I think that there are people that you know in your gut who and what they are.
02:20:36.000They're very much their own person, and you know what they're about, and you kind of get a vibe.
02:20:41.000And I don't feel like I know what he's about.
02:20:44.000And that concerns me because there are times I'm sort of like, are you just telling us what we want to hear because we voted for Trump and you're kind of tied to Trump?
02:20:54.000Like, I could see a scenario in which he's no longer tied to Trump and we're all just going, Whoa, you just became a totally different person.
02:21:00.000Like, I don't feel like I know who he is.
02:21:02.000Yeah, he didn't have a chance for two decades before Trump's second term to show the world who he was.
02:21:08.000He kind of became who he was on the world stage as the vice president.
02:21:37.000I mean, it'd be one thing if that was delivering us these like social conservative victories, but it was getting us nowhere.
02:21:41.000Trump comes in, he's like, What's your favorite Bible verse?
02:21:43.000He's like, I don't know, the two Corinthians, next question.
02:21:45.000And like cutting through like the just the non just the Conservative moralizing, for lack of a better word, was so refreshing.
02:21:53.000He was literally just this billionaire that wasn't like even right or left per se.
02:21:57.000He was just like very business minded.
02:21:59.000That was such a breath of fresh air that anyone that comes after, whether they be amazing or terrible or whatever, it's just, it's not the same.
02:22:06.000That's why it's not even appropriate to say successor to Trump because it's like no one's a successor to Trump.
02:22:10.000And JD Vance is lacking a bit in the aura department, if we're all being honest here, compared to Trump, or even the biggest Trump hater would still concede had quite a bit of aura.
02:22:18.000I mean, he was flying helicopters around with his name on Bill.
02:22:20.000He's an awkward millennial who just wants to be liked.
02:22:25.000But that's what's so bothersome, I think, and like borderline intolerable right now about Trump for people who are feeling pushed away is that exactly what you said.
02:22:35.000The thing that was so great is that he seemed so unfiltered.
02:22:38.000It almost felt like he was not capable of being untruthful because he just said everything that he thought.
02:22:45.000And it's like now so much stuff is being walked back.
02:22:48.000And it's like a lot of us are being left scratching our heads and going, Well, what was ever true?
02:22:53.000I mean, just today it's like been blowing up that he's saying, Yeah, I'm not going to.
02:23:16.000He held a press conference recently unleashing all these files with China, you know, and how China was involved in tampering with the election.
02:23:27.000And then two or three days later, he gets asked what we're going to do about it.
02:23:30.000And his response is, Oh, China does stuff to us.
02:23:50.000And I mean, I do think he has a, you know, people are going to be talking about him for a very long time.
02:23:54.000I get the sense that he's just kind of lost interest.
02:23:56.000I think he's really interested in like the ballroom and the, you know, and the, Well, then don't run.
02:24:01.000Well, yeah, I think that would be a serious rebuttal.
02:24:04.000And that's kind of like when I look at the thousand foot view here, I'm like, I will always be thankful for Trump for coming in and breaking this like Karl Rove, Bill Clinton consensus that existed in DC.
02:24:17.000And like, I know it seems muddy right now.
02:24:20.000As we get removed, we'll see that that indeed was shattered.
02:24:23.000The fact that George Bush barely even campaigns for Republicans.
02:26:33.000But to not follow through and replace it with something means, well, okay, ultimately, on the whole, hasn't really changed much in the grand scheme of things.
02:26:41.000And I think that will be where people are let down.
02:26:54.000I feel like you were starting to ask a little while ago, like, what are some of the promises that were not kept, like of MAGA, or like, what did you want to see happen that hasn't?
02:27:04.000Well, just one that I'm going to name right now because I want to make a point is de weaponization, you know, FBI, DOJ, like that.
02:27:13.000It was something he definitely campaigned on.
02:28:11.000And no one else has ever, like, DeSantis, Rubio, Vance, they're not going to do this.
02:28:16.000So it's sort of like a mourning in a way, a grieving is sort of like, that's it's just always going to be like this because that's never going to get addressed.
02:28:24.000Certainly, I think for the next few decades.
02:28:27.000And this is why, I mean, as a young person, I think fundamentally everything feels very constricted.
02:28:34.000The world feels very boring and stale.
02:28:37.000And that was what was exciting about Trump, he was a disruptor.
02:28:39.000It was like this breath of life into a very dull, banal era.
02:28:44.000It's the most boring era in human history.
02:31:19.000If you give up, you become boring because I was super boring in 2011 to 2014 because I was like, Oh, it's all we're all done anyway, nothing, and there's no hope.
02:31:27.000And I just kind of like sunk, but then it's so much opportunity, dude.
02:31:31.000The speed of information you can transform the world conceptually overnight.
02:31:38.000Mary can, I was just like, I couldn't get out of my hometown in the 90s.
02:31:41.000But this is because Mary can attest this anyone that's under about 30 years old had their phone location tapped by their parents, whether it's Life 360 or Find My Friends, not me, not you, but most young people.
02:32:16.000What's happening right now is like these fraternities where it's like one, okay, let's just say, worst case scenario, everything is true.
02:32:22.000They're shutting down fraternities in like Arizona.
02:32:24.000Okay, I feel like the fact that voluntary, all male social organizations, um, Were completely like stamped out, and then frats were like the last remaining ones, like the last remaining example of that.
02:32:42.000There's like they're ghettoized, and that's why like debauchery takes place there.
02:32:49.000There's no high end fraternities, you would have a rape here, rape there, rape there.
02:32:53.000And it was like the Masons, the Freemasons that was like a high end fraternity.
02:33:36.000After all that fun, I've got a kind of serious question.
02:33:42.000It's been three weeks since the Lindsey Clancy trial ended, and we are still seeing the fallout.
02:33:50.000Since September 15th, I've seen at least nine headlines of mothers killing their children, including a Clancy obsessed mom who killed their child while singing Ding Dong the Witch's Dead.
02:34:05.000And just yesterday, a mom purposefully Crashed her car and then attacked her children with a knife.
02:34:13.000I want to know everyone's opinion as to what the flying fuck is going on with these women.
02:34:21.000Is it SSRIs, feminist liberal induced psychosis, fucking even demons?
02:34:50.000At this point, I've got a list of all of them.
02:34:53.000Well, maybe the media is just paying more attention to this.
02:34:57.000You know, maybe it's just because they're getting rewarded for this type of coverage.
02:35:05.000Like, there's not actually a huge statistical rise in the absolute number of.
02:35:13.000Of infanticides, you know, it could be the other way around, though.
02:35:18.000I mean, sorry, do you think they're copycats or do you think it's just getting more attention?
02:35:23.000Well, I was gonna say now that the trial has taken place, right?
02:35:26.000I was gonna say copycats, but I wouldn't put it quite that way like, not copycats, like, oh, you killed your kids, so I'm gonna kill my kids too, sort of.
02:35:34.000Yeah, almost more like there's probably a lot of people walking amongst us who are suppressing these desires all the time, and now that it's being talked about and talked about and it's on TV and it's on the TV, it's whatever, I it's like, okay, you know.
02:35:47.000Maybe it becomes harder to suppress that desire.
02:35:49.000Well, that almost makes me think like the diabolical explanation is more likely.
02:36:31.000I also was confused by people saying that Lindsey Clancy, you know, if she had a psychotic episode, that was brought on by medications she was taking.
02:36:43.000When I believe she actually wasn't taking some, like most of the things she was prescribed, at least not consistently, or sometimes at all.
02:36:56.000So I'm not entirely sure, like, how salient that explanation is.
02:37:00.000You know, I don't know, postpartum, I hear as a bitch.
02:37:33.000The attention to me because there's just nothing to talk about, like anything exciting other than, let's go hard on this.
02:37:39.000You know, many times a girl got gang banged at a frat party and didn't get national attention, and now, now it's like, oh, look at the children fighting, let's all focus a society on these poorly parented children that aren't getting along, and like, the cares.
02:37:56.000I mean, I guess it's an important conversation, but not media dominating.
02:37:59.000Can I make a really weird point about the Cornell 7 too?
02:38:11.000Like, okay, so I was thinking to myself, like, I was thinking through all of this and I was thinking about the number of times, you know, I've been sober for almost 12 years, but believe me, I like have had my wild days when I was younger for many, many, many years and a lot of like very wild sexual experiences when I was younger.
02:38:30.000And they weren't always one on one, if you get my drift.
02:38:33.000And I started thinking, I was like, a lot of gay people do that, do this all.
02:40:35.000No one is saying that it wasn't traumatic, that, like, going through that, or that, you know, she wasn't upset or ashamed or all of those feelings.
02:40:45.000Like, no one is saying that that's not how she felt.
02:40:49.000You know, it's just that's not what rape is.
02:41:31.000Like, you know, like it was based on relationships that actually mean something.
02:41:38.000Yeah, but they're asking to still have that lesser accountability without that arrangement.
02:41:42.000And it's like, that's not going to facilitate anything good.
02:41:44.000So the conversation about like somehow convincing women to like be more accountable, like that's just like, that's fake.
02:41:51.000I think conservatives have it all wrong on this.
02:41:53.000I'm like, it's a weird instance where the woke is more correct insofar as they are correct that women are less culpable for this sort of thing.
02:42:01.000Therefore, the Solution is a return to maybe a more traditional gender role.
02:42:05.000We used to have like fairy tales that told women that they would like perish in humiliation if they did stuff like this.
02:42:49.000I just think the frat bro who made that decision, I think it was like the president of the frat who decided that she wasn't allowed to come to that party.
02:42:57.000Like he made that decision and he was trying to be the good guy.
02:43:02.000Like he was actually trying to look out for her.
02:43:05.000And that was the reason why she crashed out and like got the rape.
02:43:54.000This past Sunday, I dropped a video over the charity walk I participated in, including me shaving half of my beard off for getting enough donations.
02:44:05.000And I want to make a special shout out to a beanie bro and crisis actor, not that Jon Stewart, for being the largest donor, dropping a grand just to see me make an ass out of myself.
02:45:51.000I just sort of wanted to get your perspective, having gone through that.
02:45:56.000You know, in the decades long pollution and rot of the leftists and the general swampers and the neocons will do anything to, you know, be maybe even more go nuclear on MAGA and America First than the lefties will, if that can be imagined.
02:46:17.000All the professionals there in DC and in the state, in the state governments and apparatuses, including all the political activist judges.
02:46:27.000Do you think this system can even be saved?
02:46:30.000I mean, if it takes this 50 years to even, even if we had perfection over the next, you know, 30, 40 years, this rot is going to be there.
02:46:40.000And unlike the right, they are completely enthused, emboldened in using their power, right, and abusing it.
02:46:52.000They have a trillion dollar perfectly horizontally and vertically integrated CR wing with the media.
02:46:59.000Big tech, 99% Democrat donors, academia, 100% essentially, Hollywood and New York programming, which just sets the social construct.
02:47:16.000From what you went through, is it even possible?
02:47:20.000And then, as you were alluding to, Trump could have easily helped all you guys out without directly doing it himself, which is another problem with the right, where we You know, the left has innumerable action committees, justice fronts, and all the other craft.
02:47:41.000The right has PPUSA and the most impact type of folks.
02:47:47.000I guess to throw off trying to live in underwriting, doing my job while they're trying to create punches.
02:47:53.000Hey, Suck and I, I know we're losing you a little bit.
02:47:55.000Can you talk a little closer to the mic?
02:47:56.000I'm sorry, I'm rambling, but like, is it even possible to save this from your perspective after what you went through?
02:48:04.000You know, like, how do we get this back?
02:48:08.000Yeah, so let's just take the piece that is the justice system rather than everything, because obviously that's.
02:48:16.000Too much to get into, but um, yes, sir.
02:48:19.000So the judges, um, no, there's really the only way to get rid of a federal judge is to impeach them.
02:48:29.000I think it requires like a two thirds vote of the Senate to be able to get rid of a judge.
02:48:33.000It's never, literally, never going to happen.
02:48:35.000Well, it is extremely unlikely to ever happen.
02:48:39.000So the judges, unfortunately, are here to stay.
02:48:43.000But I will say corrupt cases will never get to a judge if we don't have corrupt.
02:48:48.000Prosecutors, and that can be fixed and that can be addressed.
02:48:52.000It's a big part of what I'm so angry about right now because it could be happening, it could have been happening for the last two years.
02:49:01.000Um, and I would highly recommend, um, I mentioned at some point earlier, I don't know if you heard that I started doing my own podcast recently.
02:49:09.000Um, please, if you have a moment, go and watch two episodes of my show, both of them are with the same guest.
02:49:19.000He used to work for D. He's become a good friend of mine as well as somebody I work with and interact with, and he's come on my show twice.
02:49:28.000He was an attorney who represented many J6ers pro bono.
02:49:33.000He didn't represent me, and I met him a long time after the fact, but he gained a reputation for being somebody who was trying to help J6ers just because it was the right thing to do.
02:49:42.000And so when Trump got reelected, he was recommended to be hired by DOJ.
02:49:49.000Because he knew so much about weaponization, he knew so much about the J6 cases, and because he's a really good person who's actually in it for the right reason.
02:50:00.000And so during his time at DOJ, he kept going to Pam Bondi and Harmeet Dillon and anyone else in the Department of Justice and bringing in victims of weaponization, not just J6ers, school board parents, doctors who were prosecuted for COVID charges under Biden, some of which are still facing charges under the Trump.
02:50:24.000DOJ and saying these are cases of weaponization.
02:50:28.000These cases need to be dropped or these things need to be addressed or we need to be investigating this because we need to find out who brought these charges in the first place and who these corrupt prosecutors are.
02:50:42.000I mean, they weren't listening to him, they weren't following up or researching anything he was suggesting to them.
02:50:48.000And he became ultimately a burden to them.
02:50:51.000And so they moved him out of the building.
02:50:54.000And basically, he made it so he was still on the payroll, but didn't really have a job anymore.
02:50:59.000So, after staying there for a year, he decided, okay, I'm going to leave because I came to DOJ to fight weaponization, and they're not serious about fighting weaponization.
02:51:09.000So, I really want to recommend that you please go.
02:51:11.000My show is called The Brandon Strock Show on my channel, Brandon Strock.
02:51:14.000Please watch those two episodes with John Gross.
02:51:17.000You'll get an unbelievable amount of information about what has been happening in DOJ and what is still currently happening in DOJ, and more importantly, what's not happening.
02:51:28.000But I will tell you that despite how upsetting all of this is, I've asked John Gross in both my interviews with him, is it too late to fix this?
02:51:40.000And both times he said, absolutely not.
02:53:13.000You've spent almost a decade helping people walk away from the left.
02:53:18.000Looking at where we are now, Trump back in power.
02:53:22.000The right more fractured than ever, and a lot of the same cultural rot still spreading.
02:53:29.000Do you think the bigger threat to this country is still the radical left, or is it the people on our own side who are more interested in clout, purity tests, and access than actually finishing the job that needs to be done?
02:53:52.000So Part of what was so bad about the radical left that I've spent so many years fighting is the embrace of misinformation, propaganda.
02:54:08.000Well, of course, they are actually extremely violent, and now obviously, sort of like ushering in more socialism and communism.
02:54:16.000So, those things don't really equate to what's happening on the right.
02:54:21.000But I've watched over the last year or so as the right has adopted so many of those same qualities again, not the violence or socialism.
02:54:28.000But the tribalism, identity politics, propaganda, misinformation, it's really disheartening.
02:54:36.000And so, a really hard lesson I think I've learned because when I walked away from the left, I thought that I had found like the promised land over here on the right because I was like, oh, this is where people do their own homework and they do their own research and they're, you know, it's facts over feelings.
02:54:54.000And then it's like, until we started questioning some of the things the Trump administration was doing and all of a sudden it became all about feelings.
02:55:02.000All about propaganda, misinformation, attacking people, cancel culture, censorship, cutting people off.
02:55:07.000And I'm like, wow, I've seen this movie before.
02:55:11.000I still think the biggest threat is the radical left.
02:55:15.000I don't think the two things are equal at all.
02:55:17.000I think that the right actually loves our country and sometimes steps into misguided behaviors because of that.
02:55:27.000And I think that the left, in many ways, hates our country.
02:55:31.000So I still think that the left is the bigger threat.
02:55:33.000But I think that unfortunately, what I've discovered is that no matter what side you're on, we're always going to have to fight propaganda, misinformation, tribalism, identity politics, and things like that.
02:55:49.000Well, that also goes for the rest of the panel.
02:55:53.000What else do you guys agree with, Brandon, or would you guys disagree with what he just said?
02:56:00.000It depends on what level of the equation you're looking at, because often.
02:56:04.000The bat at the very beginning, the problem is fracturing amongst the party, you know, on the right, whatever you call it.
02:56:10.000And then that's going to extrapolate to the danger of the next bad guy, which is the radical left.
02:56:16.000But then if that fracture continues, it's going to scale to an even bigger threat that's beyond the left and the right, which is, I think, you know, robots slaughtering all of us.
02:56:59.000Wait, but I thought communists weren't like, are they not people or are they not Americans?
02:57:07.000Like, isn't there something wrong with communists or something like that?
02:57:11.000Well, the ideology, if it's an American, but they have like they're tending the communist ideology, I could speak English, I can work with them, they're my countrymen.
02:57:21.000But if it's a foreigner that doesn't even speak English, that's a lot harder to deal with that because they usually resort to bombs.
02:57:27.000If they, you know, and I'm saying they, like we have also been known to do that, our people.
02:57:32.000Uh, Tibo, and I think like to answer your question, obviously, like the left is the more imminent real threat, but the position that we're all in, um, we have far more sway over the direction of the right, and the right is.
02:57:45.000Sort of the vehicle which you use to combat the left.
02:57:47.000So I think that's what most of the jostling is that we're seeing right now from all of us and in the space broadly is sort of molding the right to make it the best possible iteration of the right because you're not going to, at least in my opinion, it's going to be difficult to have too many defections from the left at this point.
02:58:09.000So yeah, the debate that we're having is over the direction of the right.
02:58:15.000Because that's who's going to go up against the left.
02:58:17.000I mean, you know, what does the fighting the left look like for us, calling out their hypocrisy?
02:58:21.000That's what we've been doing for 10 years.
02:58:23.000I mean, you know, it's a great answer.
02:58:27.000We need to determine what the Trump admin's going to do.
02:58:31.000And that is what we do have sway over, you know, because I think so many people on the right are not even ideological because there was such a windfall of cash and jobs and clout in 2024 and last year, especially, which is now kind of.
02:58:46.000Drying up and losing momentum, but they're not ideologically convicted.
02:58:51.000Yeah, I think it's probably just a business opportunity, basically.
02:58:54.000Yeah, yeah, it's just an influencer niche, like any other, it's a lifestyle choice.
03:00:05.000No, I wasn't necessarily, but it's just, yeah, for some people that are like, well, I'm just withdrawing.
03:00:08.000And it's like, okay, you can withdraw from the jostling for influence or positions or jobs or whatever, but you can't like remove yourself from the implications of politics that are there and real.
03:00:25.000But even like economics, if you don't go to the bat on property tax, I will come back to bite you as I've gone on and deep with a lot of people on the show about.
03:01:09.000Well, because young people, I think, have a better BS detector.
03:01:13.000People probably hate me for saying that, but I think it's true.
03:01:15.000A slightly better BS detector than old people.
03:01:20.000No, I think not even talking about scams, like just talking about commentators.
03:01:25.000I'm just saying that when I talk to my dad on the phone, the entire conversation now is: did you see that video about the thing on Facebook?
03:01:40.000I sent my parents and I never had like a like an AI rat like bursting out of my wall.
03:01:48.000Like I just use Grok and then I was like, I put it in the chat and I was like, crazy shit's happening over here.
03:01:56.000Gonna have to call the landlord in the morning.
03:01:57.000And my dad like couldn't sleep all night because he believed it was real.
03:02:02.000Yeah, they just no, I'm only trying to find it.
03:02:05.000Have you seen the video where they're like on GTA and there's like a police chase, car flips over and kills a bunch of people, and like the grandmother's watching and she's like, oh my.
03:02:14.000God, she thought there was like a massacre happening.
03:02:17.000Yeah, like they completely misunderstand young people.
03:02:19.000I'm like, dude, Instagram Reels and TikTok are like the only thing keeping Gen Z from being like fully libtarded.
03:02:46.000So, this is a question for either you or Brandon or anybody on the panel.
03:02:52.000So, my name is T Bone, and I just got to know, guys, what is your favorite cut of steak and how would you love that, or how would you have it prepared?
03:04:39.000I went to this butcher shop out in the bush, and the guy, I guess, was afraid that whatever the Botswana feds were, we're going to come down and kill him.