Tower Gang - Ep 3 - Problematic to Cowards w⧸ Maj Toure

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00:00:14.900 Our hour.

00:00:15.920 We're joined with Toad, Jose, Cole, your boy, Clint from Liberty Lockdown.

00:00:21.980 And we have a very special guest.

00:00:23.600 Today we are joined by the founder of Black Guns Matter,

00:00:26.160 an organization dedicated to educating the black community on gun ownership.

00:00:28.920 The man who made Nick Sarwak piss his pants, the legend, Maj Ture.

00:00:34.700 What's up, brother?

00:00:36.700 What's up, man? How y'all feeling?

00:00:39.000 Doing great, man. Doing great.

00:00:41.140 Sorry for the over-the-top intro. That's what I'm known for, so I got to hit you with it.

00:00:45.160 No, I like wrestling. It's a wrestling intro.

00:00:47.720 Yeah, that is what it is. For sure.

00:00:50.020 Anyways, I know the fellas here are very anxious to ask you a bunch of questions,

00:00:56.220 so Toad, go ahead and hit it off.

00:00:57.560 Well, first, you know, because, well, I have a reputation to uphold as the alcoholic of the bunch.

00:01:06.020 Basically, I was supremely hungover on Sunday morning and totally incapacitated,

00:01:12.340 so I missed that tower that we actually did on Roland Martin,

00:01:17.600 and I had no idea what was going on.

00:01:19.460 Like, he, I guess, started something with you, and I don't know what it was,

00:01:22.660 but if you could explain that a little bit.

00:01:25.320 We're so ride or die, we have your back no matter what.

00:01:27.880 Oh, yeah.

00:01:28.960 Oh, exactly. I jumped in.

00:01:30.740 Roland Martin is a commentator, and he leans very left.

00:01:36.380 I've done his show before.

00:01:37.880 I've been on it, I think, maybe once or twice, but I remember the last time that I was on there,

00:01:45.240 you know, he has a very condescending energy, and his energy was like, you know,

00:01:49.800 well, why do you think arming black people would be a solution?

00:01:53.180 And it's like, well, to protect themselves from criminals, to protect themselves from, you know,

00:01:58.600 their property rights, their property itself, their bodies, you know, all of these different things.

00:02:03.440 And the two, I remember being on there, and it was two of the sisters on the actual panel.

00:02:08.700 And I was like, nah, man, because we were talking about, you know,

00:02:11.140 involving maybe around, like, the George Floyd thing.

00:02:13.640 I would want somebody that's armed, or at least somebody to be trained to,

00:02:16.840 and to at least stop somebody from being murdered by the state.

00:02:20.460 And he, in essence, was basically kind of like saying, like, no, you don't intervene.

00:02:24.740 And it's like, what are you talking about?

00:02:26.160 And I said, you know, to the two sisters, if they were being accosted like Sandra Bland was,

00:02:30.800 and if I saw that, I would absolutely intervene.

00:02:34.060 And I'm sorry, you know, like, there's nothing, that's what we're supposed to do.

00:02:37.960 You do what's right.

00:02:39.440 I mean, it doesn't mean you got to, you know, you could pluck somebody when they're doing a chokehold.

00:02:44.220 And you might catch a charge, but it's like, whatever, you save somebody's life.

00:02:47.320 So anyway, he, in essence, tried to, like, defend, like a lot of people do,

00:02:53.040 defend the state in that situation, like the monopoly of violence is solely up to them.

00:02:58.360 And since then, he's, you know, attacked another young brother named King Randall,

00:03:05.760 who is 21 years old and has bought a school for, you know, at-risk youth,

00:03:10.960 and, like, literally bought a school for young people, young men to actually work hard and learn,

00:03:15.660 and all of these different things, changing oil, just life skills.

00:03:18.900 So he kind of, like, attacks this young man.

00:03:22.020 And so he's just really the ops.

00:03:23.600 And so to me, it's like, to say something about me because I'm standing up for what's right,

00:03:30.340 and you're saying, you know, I'm super pro-Black, I'm super for the community,

00:03:33.900 but I can't really identify what none of your work in the community is.

00:03:37.560 And I don't care if you're white.

00:03:38.720 If you're white and you live in a Black community, you're saying you're a community activist,

00:03:42.200 that's your community.

00:03:43.020 What have you done in that community?

00:03:44.540 And so we kind of went that way with it, and it's like he said something kind of off,

00:03:49.540 you know, off, off, you know, a little off the cuff, and it's like,

00:03:52.420 and how it started this go-around was me saying, after he made that little tweet,

00:03:57.260 I said, yo, A-Roland, I'll fuck you up, man.

00:03:59.580 Like, I'll smack a section out your chunky neck.

00:04:01.800 Stop playing.

00:04:02.680 And so it was kind of funny, and then he took, he kept going with it,

00:04:07.240 but it's like, you know, I just don't have any tolerance for people that, you know,

00:04:12.420 they say things on the internet, but we know it's you.

00:04:18.380 You said it.

00:04:19.320 Like, it's you.

00:04:20.760 So when I see you in real life, as I did with Nick Sarwark, you know,

00:04:25.860 I'm going to approach you about that, and I'm going to say something.

00:04:29.100 I'm going to address it, you know, and it's like entertaining, like, oh,

00:04:33.400 and then everybody does what they're supposed to do in real life, which is smart.

00:04:37.040 And so that's all that was about, but he's really not, we just got to stop giving,

00:04:44.480 respecting people that aren't doing anything to empower the communities.

00:04:49.760 Like, just saying, you know, being on TV and saying, well, my show has had everybody on.

00:04:54.720 So what?

00:04:55.740 So what?

00:04:56.360 Don't say community activist.

00:04:59.900 Don't say, call yourself an advocate.

00:05:02.980 Don't say you're for a community if we can't put points to any of your works.

00:05:07.460 And I think, you know, the Roland Martin situation is indicative of a lot of people.

00:05:12.860 There's a lot of people that we in the freedom and liberty community,

00:05:16.400 and whether that's black, Hispanic, Asian, white, doesn't matter.

00:05:20.180 We are giving a lot of room to people that I can't see where your actual work is.

00:05:26.860 And those people become emboldened.

00:05:28.680 The internet gives cowards a voice, you know what I'm saying?

00:05:33.060 And things that they wouldn't be able to generally say to you in real life.

00:05:36.760 So I think we've got to start checking people in that regard.

00:05:39.240 And Roland Martin is just one of the people that, you know, I'll see him at some point,

00:05:43.560 probably at the Essence Fest or some, you know, little cute place, you know,

00:05:47.200 and I'll approach him and the energy will be completely different.

00:05:49.940 So we just got to start making cowards afraid again.

00:05:53.640 Well, I want to say that we kind of did that with our tower to help you out.

00:06:01.280 Exactly.

00:06:02.060 Right.

00:06:03.060 Right.

00:06:04.540 I mean, that's kind of why Tower Gang started was just it.

00:06:10.000 Every single one of them, Mike.

00:06:12.100 You did it right.

00:06:13.120 Most people do it wrong and do it the wrong way.

00:06:15.700 You did it exactly right.

00:06:17.700 Exactly, yeah.

00:06:18.500 For those that don't know, did we call it, it was, we called him a bitch ass, didn't we?

00:06:24.880 Special kind of bitch.

00:06:26.000 Special kind of bitch.

00:06:27.560 Special kind of bitch.

00:06:30.680 I love how happy that makes Maj because it makes me equally happy.

00:06:34.980 Oh, yeah.

00:06:35.940 Well, I mean, you should be happy to have heard that Nick Sarwak lost to none of the above

00:06:42.400 recently at an election.

00:06:44.760 Did you hear about that?

00:06:46.040 No, I didn't.

00:06:47.080 Oh, dude.

00:06:48.500 So, so there was supposed to be, I think it was like an accountancy position or treasurer.

00:06:53.460 It was treasurer.

00:06:53.680 It was treasurer.

00:06:54.280 Treasurer of the LP of New Hampshire, I believe.

00:06:56.860 Yeah.

00:06:57.180 So he ran unopposed.

00:06:59.340 So it was him versus none of the above.

00:07:01.460 And he got smacked by none of the above.

00:07:05.780 The man literally lost to nobody.

00:07:11.320 With Nick, I had, I had a somewhat of a rapport with Nick.

00:07:16.460 And I would, I asked him when I told that one donor to eat a dick about a year or two

00:07:22.140 ago.

00:07:23.060 I was like, yo, what's up with this dude?

00:07:24.660 And I've communicated with him.

00:07:26.180 But then he just switched.

00:07:27.200 And I saw the play.

00:07:28.220 Like, when I lost my city council run, I knew exactly what they were going to do.

00:07:33.180 Him at the time, Daniel Hayes.

00:07:34.900 I knew exactly what they were going to do.

00:07:37.060 And I told him, I was like, listen, I can't, I'm going to be very honest about like, I knew

00:07:44.100 in my local race, I knew I campaigned better than everybody.

00:07:47.200 But the day, the day of the actual election, too many people were calling me like, yo,

00:07:52.320 they're telling me I got to like push, like vote Democrat all the way down, like at the

00:07:56.460 actual polling state.

00:07:58.300 So I knew I'm like, nah, the fix is on.

00:08:01.000 Then, and the woman that wound up winning one of those seats, she wound up getting funding

00:08:07.680 to like an additional like $250,000, like four or five days before the act.

00:08:13.060 And that was just going to be at the polls.

00:08:15.120 So I'm like, man, we're going to have a rough time.

00:08:16.780 And then when all of the people were calling me that day, saying that, yo, I can't find

00:08:21.200 you on the ballot.

00:08:22.200 I can't find this.

00:08:23.380 I can't find, I learned a lot, but I knew it was not going to be reflective upon the

00:08:27.800 amount of people that, um, how we campaigned.

00:08:31.100 I knew it wasn't, but you know, it's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

00:08:34.140 So saying that to say, I knew that Nick and those guys were going to disinvite me.

00:08:39.880 I knew it.

00:08:41.300 And I, and my thought was, yo, bro, if you do that, you're doing it because a donor that

00:08:47.340 hasn't really given a lot of money is pressuring you.

00:08:53.540 Yeah.

00:08:54.620 Oh, yeah.

00:08:56.060 Oh, we just lose Maj.

00:08:57.000 Did we just lose Maj?

00:08:58.220 We did.

00:08:59.500 We're losing everybody.

00:09:01.800 I'm contagious.

00:09:04.140 Is this what COVID does?

00:09:08.360 It's dropping like flies.

00:09:09.940 Hold on.

00:09:10.280 Oh, he's back.

00:09:16.600 Hey man, we lost you.

00:09:17.960 I think you caught what I had.

00:09:21.020 Resurrecting everyone.

00:09:22.480 So basically I told those guys, I knew that they were going to do that and that's what

00:09:27.080 they did.

00:09:27.600 So they, they made it seem like, oh, he was so problematic and that I am problematic to

00:09:32.140 cowards.

00:09:32.600 Because the thing is, if we want to expand the Liberty community, the hood resonate with

00:09:39.620 this.

00:09:39.820 If you tell anybody in any hood, I don't care what ethnicity, if your community is not rich,

00:09:45.340 if you don't live in a gated community, you live in a hood.

00:09:48.540 That's it.

00:09:49.020 Um, like when people are like, yo, he getting money.

00:09:53.240 No, he has $1 million.

00:09:55.240 That's not a lot of money.

00:09:56.640 That's like, that's, that's okay.

00:09:58.740 But you know, when your houses are starting to be like in the three, four or 5 million

00:10:03.040 and you have multiple of those, that's a different thing.

00:10:05.260 So saying that to say, if we want to expand on this Liberty, you know, movement, we have

00:10:10.960 to be willing to engage in communities that have been left out of that conversation.

00:10:16.700 When you, when you tell somebody in urban America, yo, do you want to just like do what you want

00:10:21.860 to do and be left alone and not have to worry about the government or the police messing with

00:10:26.260 you that message resonates.

00:10:27.840 I think that people like Sarwark, if you, if you want to be in control and not question,

00:10:34.660 because you can be in control and question.

00:10:36.560 If you have answers, it's no big deal.

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00:10:52.620 Um, those people don't like strong-minded people coming into the party.

00:10:57.840 So they'll come up with every excuse in the world because I told the donor, I didn't need,

00:11:02.340 I didn't know the donor was gay at the time.

00:11:04.240 I told the donor to eat a dick and they turned that into this whole like, you know, like horrible

00:11:09.780 thing.

00:11:10.240 This anti, you know, like homophobic thing.

00:11:12.860 So time to cancel Maj.

00:11:15.360 Nick's been one of those guys.

00:11:17.040 And so it's good that, you know, we got different leadership, huge shouts to, you know, the Mises

00:11:21.280 caucus guys.

00:11:22.780 You know, huge shouts to Mike Heist.

00:11:25.560 Um, huge shouts to everybody that's really trying to expand the liberty movement and

00:11:30.480 within, within and without the libertarian, you know, the party itself.

00:11:34.060 You know what I mean?

00:11:34.360 I think both are very important.

00:11:36.660 Yeah.

00:11:37.160 Well, that, that's been the thing that's, that's rubbed me the wrong way.

00:11:40.240 Most egregiously when it comes to the, the woke, you know, we call them the loser, loser

00:11:45.740 brigade within the LP is like, they're all about virtue signaling about being inclusive for minority

00:11:51.560 groups and shit like that.

00:11:52.700 But when it comes down to business and like actually having black voices, they find any

00:11:57.120 fucking excuse to get you guys off the stage.

00:11:59.180 They're doing it with Hotep Jesus.

00:12:01.000 They did it with you.

00:12:02.120 I mean, I was going to just say probably Eric.

00:12:06.140 I mean, there's not that many black people that are, are in interested at all in the libertarian

00:12:11.440 party.

00:12:11.780 And they've, they've like the most prominent ones, they have no interest in, in giving

00:12:15.960 them a platform to talk.

00:12:17.740 And, and from my vantage point as a white dude from the suburbs, I'm like, I want to

00:12:22.200 spread this shit all, all across the country.

00:12:24.340 And I can't, I can't wrap my head around this logic of like, oh, we're going to have to make

00:12:29.840 sure that they're ideologically pure first.

00:12:31.600 It's like, well, they're, they're, they just found out about this shit.

00:12:34.960 Most of them.

00:12:35.340 I mean, not, maybe not you, I don't know your background, but like, this is a new ideology

00:12:39.100 for the black community largely, and, and we're trying to spread it.

00:12:42.320 So you can't have purity tests off jump street.

00:12:44.600 Like you have to, you have to give people an opportunity to learn.

00:12:47.300 And these guys just don't seem to have any interest in it.

00:12:49.620 Yeah.

00:12:50.040 You can't have your cake and eat it too.

00:12:53.800 It's not a, it's not a new concept for the black community.

00:12:58.040 It's the way that it's packaged as a party, right?

00:13:02.720 Sure.

00:13:02.960 Meaning, oh, we have another option outside of the duopoly.

00:13:06.380 That's what's new.

00:13:07.140 But the concept of liberty and like, oh, yeah, leave me alone.

00:13:10.880 I just, I kind of want to hang out and just like, I just want to like smoking on the,

00:13:15.080 on the steps real quick.

00:13:16.200 I had a rough day at work.

00:13:17.960 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:18.860 Like, I just want to chill.

00:13:21.440 But that's, but that's, that's what another thing that I learned from this city council

00:13:26.360 loss.

00:13:28.780 I didn't build a base first.

00:13:32.420 I had, we as the libertarian party or libertarians, I'll say, have to, in our community, just expand

00:13:42.520 libertarian ideology first and expand that base, right?

00:13:47.360 Then we can have the room.

00:13:50.020 So for example, if I would have built that base of saying, okay, before I need 40,000

00:13:56.320 votes to win, right?

00:13:58.960 Let me go make 50,000 people in Philadelphia change their voters registration to libertarian.

00:14:05.980 Like that's where I put the cart before the horse, right?

00:14:11.700 So now, you know, we're opening up a facility here in Philadelphia and now I'll go, okay.

00:14:17.940 Hey y'all, this is the reason why the duopoly has not helped.

00:14:21.860 This is the reason why, if you want to be honest, this is the reason why, regardless

00:14:25.680 of if it's, well, in Philly, there's not Republican mayor for a very long time, but if it's Republican

00:14:30.300 leadership or Democratic leadership, has your hood looked exactly the same at best or gotten

00:14:35.440 worse, right?

00:14:36.840 So explaining that concept and then saying, this is the reason why we're going to go this

00:14:41.580 to this party.

00:14:42.440 And here's the basic tenets of that party, as well as here are the people or ideologies

00:14:48.720 that you're going to struggle around.

00:14:50.100 So you're preparing them for the loser brigade showing up going like, nah, man, you got to be

00:14:57.700 this way all of the time, when you give them a cultural understanding of what, you know,

00:15:01.900 oh, that's that, that's that loser brigade that they were talking about in the libertarian

00:15:06.100 class.

00:15:06.520 Here they come.

00:15:07.380 We see it, right?

00:15:08.760 And then when you, you know, when you locally then say, hey, we have 50,000 people, we're

00:15:16.040 going to run somebody.

00:15:17.240 Again, the people that take those city council at large seats generally get between 30 and

00:15:22.140 40,000 votes.

00:15:23.480 That's not hard to do in a city of over 1 million people.

00:15:27.700 Right.

00:15:28.780 And it's like having candidates that, okay, you got the base, then having candidates that

00:15:37.020 are espousing these views, not only are you going to get those 40 or 50,000 people that

00:15:41.740 switch their party because they want to win, right?

00:15:44.120 On top of that, you're going to also attract some of the other people when that person starts

00:15:48.780 doing press and they articulate this libertarian ideology, you're going to get some Republicans

00:15:54.040 going like, well, shit, Republican leadership hasn't done anything.

00:15:56.660 Let me vote for this person.

00:15:58.680 That's where I fail.

00:16:00.300 That's where libertarians across the country are failing.

00:16:04.300 We, and before I just blame it all the way on us, you know, you got people that's doing

00:16:12.560 infighting that were in positions of power, you know, and there's nothing worse than a coward

00:16:18.100 with a position of power.

00:16:19.500 That's a, that's a very dangerous and annoying thing to have.

00:16:24.560 Um, and so same thing, we got to, just like we doing that locally, I'm challenging everybody

00:16:29.480 to get, you know, a hundred, 200 people in your community and your 10 block radius, a hundred,

00:16:35.180 two hundred people to switch.

00:16:37.080 I mean, obviously if some states, you, you know, you got to go one or the other in the

00:16:40.760 primary, but get people to start going libertarian, right?

00:16:44.440 Then on top of that and get those people into the actual libertarian party.

00:16:49.740 Um, I think that we have millions of libertarians that more aligned with, you know, what we

00:16:56.620 and this panel aligned with.

00:16:58.440 However, when they look at, you know, the leadership of the party, they don't join.

00:17:03.860 The problem with that is we have power.

00:17:09.080 Damn, man.

00:17:12.020 Fucking catching fire.

00:17:13.800 I know he's going so great.

00:17:15.280 Do you, one of you have your phone sitting on the audio equipment?

00:17:19.280 No, what are you hearing?

00:17:20.880 No, there is a slight buzz, but, um, yeah.

00:17:24.140 Cause it's, it's doing that.

00:17:26.620 It's not on my end.

00:17:27.600 So I don't know who's doing it, but anyways, I just wanted to make sure if it's Maj, then

00:17:30.660 whatever.

00:17:33.060 Yeah.

00:17:33.420 I don't know what the hell happened.

00:17:37.360 Fucking Zuckerberg.

00:17:41.060 He's everywhere, man.

00:17:43.040 You, you, you were on a roll too.

00:17:44.540 We just got to make sure that you're on a roll.

00:17:51.120 Yeah.

00:17:51.560 I think it might just be my signal.

00:17:53.200 Um, I just think that we got to infiltrate.

00:17:55.520 We got to infiltrate because we know we're right.

00:17:58.260 And we know that those people aren't just don't, you know, whatever we, we haven't done at the

00:18:02.480 same level of infiltration.

00:18:04.480 Um, and now what it is, is it's not even infiltration at this point.

00:18:07.840 It's an open subversive movement.

00:18:09.340 It's an open subversive movement to getting people to go right into the party, pay the

00:18:14.060 dues.

00:18:14.400 But these still are people that are in alignment with us.

00:18:17.140 You know what I mean?

00:18:17.900 It's like you building your board of directors and we have to start doing it.

00:18:21.320 That's what we failed.

00:18:22.160 And we failed that way because even, even myself, I failed that way because, you know, we go

00:18:29.380 like, I don't need this shit.

00:18:30.500 Like libertarians generally are very, um, free.

00:18:35.500 They're very lone wolf.

00:18:37.320 We can get along with others, but we go like, I don't need anybody.

00:18:42.520 Right.

00:18:43.120 Politics and building those coalitions.

00:18:45.960 That's why there's a huge shout again to Mike Heist.

00:18:48.840 Mike Heist was very instrumental in me running for city council.

00:18:51.740 I wasn't doing that.

00:18:52.520 I was like, man, I don't fucking need that shit.

00:18:54.440 Like I, the job only pays $140,000 a year.

00:18:57.880 And I'm like, come on, bro.

00:18:58.920 Like, you know, and so, but his ability to see culture and build coalitions or something

00:19:06.100 and those Mises guys, they, they, they put a lot of energy into, you know, into our campaign.

00:19:11.740 So saying all of that to say there, that shows the importance of building that coalition

00:19:16.200 shaped around culture, right?

00:19:18.560 Because we haven't, we've been so many lone wolves.

00:19:22.540 We allow the dweebs to win because the dweebs are a coalition.

00:19:29.000 Yeah.

00:19:29.560 You know what I'm saying?

00:19:30.200 Because they can't stand on their own.

00:19:32.260 Exactly.

00:19:32.700 You know what I mean?

00:19:33.220 So we, we, we, we kind of got to like, you know, be on that and be, be open, subversive

00:19:37.680 movement.

00:19:38.100 And when I say subversive, I don't mean, uh, subverting us away from actual liberty, subverting

00:19:44.360 us away from some of the, the, the, the bad leadership and horrible cultural policies that

00:19:49.440 has been within any demographic.

00:19:51.540 I'm going to do an open subversive movement to make 50,000 people in Philadelphia become

00:19:56.560 libertarian.

00:19:57.300 Then we build the base, then we build up on that.

00:19:59.660 But, um, I think that's, I think that that's something that I learned from that race.

00:20:03.180 And, um, you know, the stronger, even people that aren't in the party that may be listening

00:20:07.660 to this, you know, tonight, you have to start building coalition.

00:20:13.180 You have to educate about the culture.

00:20:15.840 You have to, you know, hit, hit people with a little bit of Mises here, hit people with

00:20:20.400 a little bit of, you know, uh, uh, Rand Paul here.

00:20:23.240 You like, these are things that we got to start doing.

00:20:25.520 You know what I mean?

00:20:26.560 And leave room for people to disagree, leave room for people genuinely go into it.

00:20:32.700 Like, you know, I see, I see how you feel that way about that.

00:20:36.120 I can, I can see that.

00:20:37.460 I personally don't subscribe to it.

00:20:39.160 One of the biggest issues that I get pushback for is I understand the concept of freedom

00:20:45.140 of movement very thoroughly.

00:20:46.680 I do what the fuck I want to do all the time.

00:20:49.760 However, um, I, I give pushback to having open borders in a welfare state.

00:20:57.260 We are in a welfare state to have, to want to have that conversation and be met with,

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00:21:15.460 Hashtag make a play.

00:21:18.260 Um, somebody that's going like, Oh, you're not a real libertarian.

00:21:21.140 Cause you're not for complete, you know, movement of every human.

00:21:24.900 I'm like, yo bro, I hear you.

00:21:26.700 I hear you.

00:21:27.220 And that's not what I'm saying.

00:21:28.860 I'm saying that we have to address this elephant in the room in conjunction with that.

00:21:33.060 I, those rights got to be reciprocated in that regard.

00:21:35.700 So I can't, if Japan not going to just like me hang out over there and like watch the new

00:21:42.160 age animated, ain't even fucking hit America yet.

00:21:44.820 As long as I want it, it has to be reciprocated both ways.

00:21:48.360 Right.

00:21:49.160 You know what I'm saying?

00:21:49.920 And so just being open to that type of conversation and, you know, trying to genuinely hear they're

00:21:57.640 saying what they're saying, as opposed to, I'm the most libertarian in the room and there

00:22:03.500 are, there can only be one type Highlander shit.

00:22:08.400 We got to be mindful of that.

00:22:10.340 And then I think we can, we can start making some real, real great progress.

00:22:13.720 Well, the tower gang is all about subverting the goofies.

00:22:17.120 So you, you would, you would appreciate us, uh, Jose, go ahead and hit it.

00:22:21.760 Yeah.

00:22:21.940 Yeah.

00:22:22.140 I think there's a lot of stuff you're saying that was touching on a question I have for

00:22:24.760 you.

00:22:25.060 I want your opinion on how things are going to go going forward.

00:22:27.980 Cause I know a lot of people are caught up in the whole pills.

00:22:30.040 I'm sure you probably heard red pills, white pills, black pills.

00:22:32.800 I mean, the big that I'm talking about are the white, the black and the clear, which

00:22:35.920 a lot of people don't talk about the clear and that's kind of where I'm at.

00:22:38.480 And I want to have, I'm going to have probably hopefully have Clint on sometime soon to

00:22:41.180 have him do an episode on the clear pill.

00:22:42.720 But you know, most people go, go, go red pill.

00:22:45.520 They go black pill.

00:22:46.340 We're all doom and gloom.

00:22:47.460 They got the white pill.

00:22:48.640 And then I think clear pills like more like realism.

00:22:51.000 And I think, I know you're more of like a solutionary.

00:22:53.360 So I think you'd probably be more of like a clear pill.

00:22:55.480 Like you're not full of shit and thinking shit's just going to magically come together, but

00:22:59.300 you know, it's going to take some work and you know, it may not work out for everybody.

00:23:02.360 You got to put yourself in the right situation.

00:23:04.140 So I just kind of want to hear your thoughts on that shit.

00:23:06.080 Like where you're at with things going forward is as crazy as things are.

00:23:09.140 But yeah, it's really like the 80-20 rule with me.

00:23:14.240 You know what I mean?

00:23:14.940 The 80-20 rule in relationships is like, yo, bro, you're not going to get 20% of the shit

00:23:19.840 you want.

00:23:21.400 Like I'm good with it.

00:23:23.060 Like a B plus, you know what I'm saying?

00:23:25.420 And so if we struggle around certain issues, right, for the 20% of issues, okay, cool.

00:23:33.440 We can, we, we, we chalk that.

00:23:35.080 So we're going to struggle around that a bit, but 80% of this is what we good on.

00:23:40.380 When people do that in their relationships, right?

00:23:43.760 Their relationships become much more productive.

00:23:46.200 And that's, that's like your girlfriend, your boyfriend, your husband, your wife type,

00:23:49.940 you know, whatever.

00:23:50.440 Same thing.

00:23:52.800 That clear pill is going like, this is not going to be perfect.

00:23:57.980 We at least have to have the trust in each other to go.

00:24:01.380 I at least believe, I at least believe that your intent is the cause of liberty.

00:24:07.480 If we can at least level there, I can give you enough empathy and objectivity to hear you.

00:24:13.820 If you're like, again, the biggest thing is like borders, just hear me when I say, this is a concern.

00:24:23.420 When I go, if I, if you allow me to elaborate, I'll say, well, another reason why I'm concerned

00:24:30.580 about borders is this government has been fucking bombing people for a very long time.

00:24:38.580 And beef doesn't magically just disappear.

00:24:44.060 You know, there has to be things that are addressed and rights that have to, you know,

00:24:49.080 wrongs that have to be righted in order for that beef to disappear.

00:24:52.940 We can't pretend like our government has not gone rogue and, and Syria, like, hello.

00:24:59.080 So, so these are things that the people can be erroneously associated or negatively impacted or harmed

00:25:10.120 because your government did, rogue government did something that the people didn't want.

00:25:16.720 So there's a need.

00:25:19.120 Son of a bitch.

00:25:24.520 Damn, he fucking killed it.

00:25:26.440 His audio too, man.

00:25:27.760 It's definitely his.

00:25:29.080 Yeah.

00:25:30.200 He'll be back.

00:25:32.500 We're all about resurrecting people from the dead here.

00:25:35.380 COVID doesn't actually kill anybody.

00:25:41.580 I have absolutely no idea what's going on.

00:25:46.700 Every time you come back, I'm happy.

00:25:48.260 So it's all good.

00:25:50.120 He's been on like five times now on the show.

00:25:52.520 I think, I think that the, the point you were making was a good one is that like,

00:25:55.980 first off, I don't understand the purity test anyways, because it's,

00:25:59.080 it's like, okay, yeah, first off, we have to end the war on terror.

00:26:02.660 We have to end the military industrial complex.

00:26:04.380 We have to end the, the welfare state.

00:26:06.560 You have to end all of that before you can even consider open borders.

00:26:09.600 I mean, realistically.

00:26:10.760 And, and let's be honest, we're nowhere near having the borders be completely open.

00:26:14.980 Like no one, no one in America is actually going to go there yet.

00:26:17.540 So like the, the whole libertarian ideal of, I think it's, you, you aptly described it

00:26:22.260 as putting the cart before the horse when you're talking about your campaign.

00:26:24.940 It's the same thing here.

00:26:25.880 It's like, oh, did we lose him?

00:26:29.020 I don't know.

00:26:31.140 Oh, no, he's still there.

00:26:32.100 All right.

00:26:32.340 Um, so yeah, I, I agree with you is basically what I'm saying.

00:26:35.040 Like, I, I think that it's totally reasonable to, to keep an open mind.

00:26:38.280 If someone has a difference of opinion, particularly on a topic that's as complicated as that.

00:26:42.920 Right.

00:26:44.960 Right.

00:26:45.700 And, and those are the things that we got to navigate around your ego.

00:26:49.120 You just can't leave with your ego.

00:26:51.140 Your ego is not your amigo.

00:26:53.160 It's like, it's not.

00:26:55.020 And I mean, I mean, I mean that in the truest sense of the word, your false ego.

00:26:58.420 So, and it sounds like spiritual and all that other type vibe, but the reality is, it's

00:27:02.760 like, let me genuinely try to, even if I, if I land that, I completely disagree with

00:27:07.820 you.

00:27:08.200 Let me genuinely try to hear what you're saying.

00:27:10.960 Let me genuinely try to understand where you coming from with this thing.

00:27:14.440 And I'm not, I'm not talking to like, I'm not listening just to wait for my turn to like

00:27:21.260 talk.

00:27:22.020 I'm listening to genuinely understand where you're coming from doing it that way.

00:27:27.720 So you're easy, it's easy to find the 80% and the 20%.

00:27:32.160 We'll talk about that later.

00:27:33.780 You know what I mean?

00:27:34.760 We'll, you know, or we'll, we'll make it a very, um, productive conversation in that

00:27:41.020 regard about that 20% that we kind of like disagree on.

00:27:44.280 And that's the clear pill that, and the irony is that translates into any so-called political

00:27:49.360 party or affiliation, right?

00:27:51.820 Democrats don't always agree on everything.

00:27:54.160 They're just better at, um, they got more power and resources.

00:27:58.440 So they're better at converging on the other, right?

00:28:02.680 Republicans are great at making means and, and bragging on Joe Biden.

00:28:07.720 They're great at it.

00:28:08.760 They know where to converge, but they don't always agree.

00:28:11.500 You know, they don't even agree on gun shit.

00:28:13.200 You know what I'm saying?

00:28:13.900 So like, these are all things that, um, we have a great opportunity as libertarians to

00:28:21.400 do something in that regard.

00:28:22.800 That's not, um, that's not as polarizing, right?

00:28:29.060 It's, it's more understanding and accepting.

00:28:31.320 And that creates empathy, that empathy for that other, right?

00:28:35.540 Creates that room of acceptance for cultures to come in.

00:28:38.900 I can respect that culture.

00:28:40.360 I can share what this culture is about.

00:28:42.300 And then we expand.

00:28:43.440 That is the thing that I'm seeing that has been missing.

00:28:45.700 And again, going back, you know, sounding like a broke record.

00:28:48.560 Those are the things that we actually have to remember in our engagement.

00:28:52.520 You know what I mean?

00:28:53.520 Sure.

00:28:54.140 Cool.

00:28:55.360 Yeah, Maj.

00:28:55.920 Uh, so I know you deal a lot, like whenever you go out and talk to different communities,

00:29:00.800 it's a lot of usually underprivileged communities.

00:29:02.740 And I know right now, um, in the gun market, things are just blowing up and things are getting

00:29:10.320 way more expensive.

00:29:11.300 Ammo's expensive.

00:29:12.340 Guns are expensive.

00:29:13.860 How do you see that, um, working out going forward, especially with you trying to get people

00:29:19.340 to learn about guns and go and buy guns if, um, these things are going to be so expensive

00:29:26.180 and, um, maybe getting out of reach for some of these communities.

00:29:33.060 So, um, in regard, you broke up a little bit, but let me just repeat what I'm, I'm hearing.

00:29:38.880 Um, if, if things being so expensive in regards to firearms and ammo, is that what you kind of

00:29:43.880 like saying?

00:29:44.240 Yeah, I was talking about that, especially with underprivileged communities and the place

00:29:47.820 people you talk to and trying to get them to see that about how important guns are and

00:29:53.520 gun safety, but, uh, getting them to buy a gun is a lot harder right now.

00:30:00.960 Yeah, that totally broke up, but I'm going to try to piece it together.

00:30:06.080 In regards to, in regards to firearms, um, now is the perfect time for everybody to learn.

00:30:13.120 Um, and especially in the things that are free, right?

00:30:16.880 Um, like dry practice, um, um, you know, that, that science grips.

00:30:25.460 Damn.

00:30:25.980 I know.

00:30:27.120 He's just, this feels like a, uh, like we're just, we're just in rounds of boxing right now.

00:30:32.900 And every time he goes out, he's going back to the corner, he's prepping, he's gonna come

00:30:36.560 back in and just, and just hit us with a bunch of things once more.

00:30:39.560 Here, I'm going to, I'm going to play the song right now.

00:30:41.940 Let's, let's get the bell round six.

00:30:44.620 Here we go.

00:30:49.940 You're going to play the song.

00:30:50.940 You're not going to hear it though.

00:30:53.220 You know, it's not playing right now, right?

00:30:55.080 You can't hear it.

00:30:55.920 No, we can't hear it.

00:30:56.920 No, we're in three, but now it's not.

00:31:00.100 That's so weird.

00:31:02.620 I wonder if he just like, uh, he hasn't gotten back on yet.

00:31:05.200 So I wonder if he's just like, you know what?

00:31:06.500 Fuck it.

00:31:06.860 I'm out.

00:31:07.260 He might be, which would suck literally on my question, the one I've been wanting to

00:31:13.700 ask, but, oh, I found it.

00:31:16.500 All right, here we go.

00:31:18.040 All right.

00:31:18.440 Do it.

00:31:19.260 Like brown, silky smooth time was the only sound.

00:31:22.280 Getting so hot must be air July.

00:31:24.340 Screaming in the mic a rip for 59.

00:31:26.480 Monster ratio that black runs matter.

00:31:28.580 Now all these lefties got crazy small bladders.

00:31:30.760 None of us wanted war, but we're ready.

00:31:32.600 You know, I'll be bopping, aim rock steady.

00:31:36.960 Man, I wanted to keep playing it.

00:31:39.440 Yeah.

00:31:40.000 That was nice.

00:31:42.520 Well, damn, that sucks, man.

00:31:44.220 I really wanted to hear that.

00:31:46.420 While we wait for, while we wait for Masha to come back, you want to do our fucking Golden

00:31:50.600 Tower segment?

00:31:51.480 I don't know how long it's going to take for him to get back.

00:31:53.100 Now I was going to say, now we know that Cole doesn't listen to Liberty Lockdown, though.

00:31:58.100 I know, right?

00:31:58.840 He's acting like he's never heard that song before.

00:32:00.980 Hurts my feelings.

00:32:01.660 I want to hear the whole thing is what I'm saying.

00:32:03.840 I want it to continue.

00:32:05.920 I've heard it too many times at this point.

00:32:10.000 Not that there's anything wrong with it, but the point being I've listened to the show

00:32:13.040 is a lot.

00:32:13.920 Thank you.

00:32:14.860 Yeah, Toad, you want to go ahead and introduce the towers while we wait for Masha?

00:32:17.540 If he comes back, we'll see what's up.

00:32:19.600 Let's do it.

00:32:20.160 We'll see if I can share my screen here.

00:32:23.100 Man, I had so much to ask that dude.

00:32:26.620 Fuck.

00:32:27.500 Yeah, I know.

00:32:30.080 Well, you're going to totally get him.

00:32:31.600 He's going to remember you.

00:32:33.160 You're definitely going to try to parlay this into a...

00:32:35.440 How could I not?

00:32:38.360 For the clout.

00:32:40.200 No, not for the clout.

00:32:41.060 I genuinely love that dude.

00:32:42.120 I think he's got the energy that we need to add to the LP.

00:32:46.180 Real talk.

00:32:46.800 I really think that his energy is fucking awesome.

00:32:50.000 It's so...

00:32:50.800 Oh, sorry.

00:32:51.300 Go ahead.

00:32:51.520 My bad.

00:32:51.840 No, I was just going to say, it's so like...

00:32:54.520 It's exactly what the LP lacks, which is like a real fire, a real will to do what needs

00:33:00.360 to be done.

00:33:00.920 And I just love the guy.

00:33:02.180 Just so you all know, what fucking Cole just did was an inside joke.

00:33:05.800 So he wasn't really saying, we're doing this for the clout.

00:33:08.640 That's an inside joke.

00:33:09.520 It doesn't play as well to a wider audience.

00:33:11.440 I don't think you understand.

00:33:16.560 We are doing this for the clout.

00:33:17.900 The whole point of this, of the podcast, of everything, was just so...

00:33:22.540 For the clout.

00:33:23.080 That's all it was for.

00:33:23.960 Yeah.

00:33:24.100 By the way, shout out to all the Tower Gang members that are upset that they're not on

00:33:28.580 right now.

00:33:29.120 I don't know who really wants to be on this shit.

00:33:32.020 I was happy to bow out for the record.

00:33:33.980 For the record, I was.

00:33:35.260 And I think you guys will all get your shot.

00:33:36.900 So please, if you want to fucking come on, say something.

00:33:39.780 For the love of God, say something directly to us and we'll fucking get you in here.

00:33:42.780 Jesus.

00:33:43.180 Literally fucking ask.

00:33:44.900 Yeah.

00:33:45.200 Okay.

00:33:48.300 Like, we don't care.

00:33:49.340 But, yeah, I mean, we'll probably do an OG Tower Gang episode not too long from now.

00:33:54.460 Because, yeah, that was a whole thing.

00:33:56.260 And we're going to do that in that one.

00:33:57.460 So are you ready, Toad?

00:33:58.760 Fucking, we'll introduce the towers?

00:34:00.740 Right.

00:34:01.160 Yeah.

00:34:01.400 We're going to figure out, yeah, I mean, who the Tower Gang wants to be on.

00:34:05.160 You know, we'll have a bunch of different Tower Gang members on, I assume.

00:34:08.460 Whoa, what the fuck just happened?

00:34:10.340 Toad, wrong one.

00:34:12.720 I got it.

00:34:13.720 I gotcha.

00:34:15.200 There you go.

00:34:15.820 There we go.

00:34:16.760 So we're starting with the second Modge Tower that we did this week.

00:34:20.340 Hold on.

00:34:20.580 We need to explain what Golden Tower is.

00:34:23.100 Oh, yeah, we do.

00:34:25.180 I'll take it out.

00:34:25.980 So Golden Tower is like a segment we have each week where we go over the best towers from the week before from Hashtag Tower Gang.

00:34:34.500 This week, we have three candidates.

00:34:37.940 The first one is the second Modge Tower.

00:34:40.920 We have, what was the other two?

00:34:42.680 We had the Gretchen Whitmer Tower, which was pretty awesome, kind of.

00:34:48.340 And then, Toad, what was the third?

00:34:53.460 It was a tower on Meghan McCain.

00:34:56.220 That's right, the Piggy.

00:34:59.180 Which, for sensitive ears, bow out now.

00:35:02.920 They should have bowed out before the show started.

00:35:05.200 Yes.

00:35:05.540 If you are Kevin Cassidy, leave now.

00:35:07.380 Well, yeah, we towered Kevin Cassidy three times, too, and I think he blocked all of us, but we won't be talking about that, I guess.

00:35:14.360 So the Modge Tower, we did actually two, excuse me, we did a Black Guns Matter tower earlier in the week that he responded to and retweeted all of it in order.

00:35:28.160 And then he also did the same thing with the second tower that we did, which got a better response, which was the other day here, which was on Roland Martin, which was the – this was what I asked about at the beginning of the show.

00:35:41.760 That's what I was going for.

00:35:44.520 Right.

00:35:45.440 Modge had called him a special kind of bitch, so we towered him.

00:35:50.820 And like I said, I was totally –

00:35:52.160 Oh, Ace is in here, guys.

00:35:53.420 Sorry.

00:35:53.760 Yeah, Ace is in here.

00:35:54.800 Ace, what's up?

00:35:55.600 Fucker, what's up, Ace?

00:35:57.600 Gone.

00:35:58.180 Sorry.

00:35:58.980 I was totally incapacitated, yeah, and did not get into this tower, although I think I did spam it because I had to hashtag it.

00:36:08.720 But we did the same thing.

00:36:10.440 We called Roland a special kind of bitch in tower form here.

00:36:17.620 And Modge, we tagged him in it.

00:36:20.600 He saw it, obviously, and we –

00:36:22.720 Alex had this screenshot here of him calling Roland a special kind of bitch.

00:36:29.640 Senpai noticed us, and that's why he came here today.

00:36:32.080 Yeah.

00:36:33.080 Again, the best thing I can say about him is that he retweeted it correctly from bottom to top, so it came out on his feed looking perfect.

00:36:41.200 He did.

00:36:42.300 He did it, and he did it with Black Guns Matter also.

00:36:44.480 So, like, he – I mean, if this was his first time looking at a tower, I'm pretty impressed, actually.

00:36:50.400 So, usually people don't know what to do.

00:36:53.400 He's a fucking pro.

00:36:54.160 Yeah, people have been doing it for a while, fuck it up, so.

00:36:57.040 Which, by the way, did this one have good spam on it afterwards, or was it kind of like lackluster spam?

00:37:03.820 So, I mean, this was the spam that I chose because I think it had the most likes on it because, you know, hashtags – well, tag Modge, and there's not much spam on this one, I suppose, but, well, let me see.

00:37:17.780 But this one had the –

00:37:20.060 Oh, we lost you, dude.

00:37:21.740 What the fuck?

00:37:22.800 Can't hear you, Cole.

00:37:23.960 Yeah.

00:37:24.740 Well, this one has the Senpai Notice Me feature, so that's what this one's notable for.

00:37:31.240 So, I don't know if you want to move on to the other one.

00:37:34.440 Why does Cole look like he's still talking?

00:37:37.060 I don't know.

00:37:37.700 I don't know if he's caught on.

00:37:38.740 He is.

00:37:40.180 Maybe he can't hear us either.

00:37:43.280 What the fuck is that noise?

00:37:45.780 Is someone playing porn?

00:37:48.260 I don't know.

00:37:48.920 So, the next one we had –

00:37:50.620 This was the Gretchen Whitmer one, and in both of these cases, we have people in these towers who have been suspended.

00:38:01.680 Because we're all getting suspended now.

00:38:04.060 Oh.

00:38:06.200 I'm just going to go ahead and say ahead of time, I know a lot of you guys are impressed with this one.

00:38:11.640 I do not believe in the communist labor theory of value, so just the simple fact it's large does not impress me.

00:38:17.500 It's fucking – I'm sorry.

00:38:18.880 It's kind of weak.

00:38:19.640 It's just a clusterfuck of insults.

00:38:22.760 Like, it's not even that clever.

00:38:25.340 It's more just impressive for the size of it.

00:38:27.140 I will give it some extra because it ended up 69 characters, which is kind of, like, nice.

00:38:32.040 Nice.

00:38:32.180 You know, but it's about it.

00:38:33.640 By my count, it was.

00:38:34.800 I think it was 69, which our previous long was the one that we talked about last week, which was 49.

00:38:39.940 So this was – this far surpassed that, and we had no doubles on it.

00:38:44.580 We had a couple of people use alts on it, but –

00:38:47.760 Jose, that was, like, the biggest small dick energy rant I've ever heard.

00:38:52.280 It's like, I'm not impressed by size.

00:38:54.440 It's the motion in the ocean, guys.

00:38:57.620 That's right.

00:38:58.240 It's not the skies and the waves.

00:38:59.280 It's the motion in the ocean.

00:39:00.780 This one had no motion to it.

00:39:03.060 It was all size.

00:39:04.620 I mean, it's humongous, but –

00:39:06.280 Size doesn't matter, guys.

00:39:08.140 So this –

00:39:09.340 Trust me.

00:39:09.680 If you're big enough, you don't need to have hip strength.

00:39:12.380 Just take the word for it.

00:39:13.300 I don't even know why we decided to do this tweet because Wittner has tweeted a lot of bullshit that is much more towerable than this.

00:39:21.420 She's recommending some book called The Witches Are Coming.

00:39:25.000 Okay, whatever.

00:39:25.960 And then, again, I think this was – I don't know.

00:39:29.080 I was not involved in it.

00:39:29.960 Read it out because it goes – like you said, it's a –

00:39:34.100 The tower is stop insulting witches.

00:39:40.340 Stop insulting witches, comma, bitch, comma.

00:39:44.540 Sit on a broken broomstick.

00:39:48.420 You tyrannical motherfucker.

00:39:50.700 I think it's what it is.

00:39:54.200 Which is absurd.

00:39:57.100 It got funnier.

00:39:58.200 It got funnier.

00:40:00.120 Reading it – saying it out loud.

00:40:02.220 Or no, I guess we just shortened it to you – no, it – wait.

00:40:05.880 What?

00:40:07.920 It looks like it's missing some of the tweets.

00:40:09.580 I don't even know.

00:40:10.740 It was you tyrannical motherfucker.

00:40:14.900 And then I chose ghost –

00:40:16.700 Alex is saying monster.

00:40:17.900 This is her brainchild, Alex Hatch, who is the – what's she got?

00:40:22.460 The mantifly.

00:40:23.600 That's her thing.

00:40:24.980 Yes.

00:40:25.620 Yeah, she's tower gang.

00:40:26.960 We got big peeps in here.

00:40:30.340 So what was the next one?

00:40:31.380 The next one was something fucking funny, if I remember correctly.

00:40:33.560 I'm going to brain fart.

00:40:34.400 What is it?

00:40:34.520 I love how your next one was actually something funny.

00:40:37.560 And this one did also have Horchata in it, who we had towered with this thing right here.

00:40:45.780 Because she had said she was going to show her butthole at 400 follows.

00:40:49.700 So we immediately towered her and got her to 400 follows, and then we were – all of us – like, she didn't for a while.

00:40:55.860 Then all of us individually were, like, tagging, like, show butthole, show butthole, show butthole.

00:41:00.120 And we towered her with show your butthole.

00:41:04.920 And she fucking showed her butthole.

00:41:07.720 Yeah, just for 400 follows.

00:41:09.900 We can't show because we will get this taken down.

00:41:13.200 But she literally said boogaloo, and one of the O's was her butthole.

00:41:18.300 That's true.

00:41:19.060 You can find it on Twitter.

00:41:20.880 That was her big dick energy right there.

00:41:24.640 Hey, Colt, did you check your DMs to make sure that Maj didn't message you?

00:41:28.080 It would have been Jose that was –

00:41:29.560 Oh, Jose, sorry.

00:41:30.520 I haven't seen nothing.

00:41:31.600 I keep checking periodically.

00:41:33.040 So I don't know if the fucking feds got to him or what.

00:41:35.560 I think five disconnects, people just give up.

00:41:40.660 Yeah, I think so.

00:41:42.500 What this means is we'll just get him back on next week.

00:41:45.500 I mean, it's common courtesy.

00:41:47.800 Maj got knocked out.

00:41:48.840 Yeah, and I wanted to talk to him about the shootings too.

00:41:51.300 Yeah, we totally missed out on literally one of some of the best stuff.

00:41:54.880 I want to thank you guys for not using the N-word while he was on.

00:41:57.160 I know it took a tremendous amount of self-control, particularly for Toe.

00:42:03.080 So good job.

00:42:04.800 Literally that meme of the kid in class.

00:42:07.900 It's like –

00:42:09.020 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:09.560 Literally all of us right now.

00:42:16.280 All right.

00:42:16.800 What was the last one, Toe?

00:42:18.120 I've had a hard time.

00:42:18.980 I think –

00:42:19.720 Didn't it have something to do with like buttholes or something?

00:42:21.100 No, never mind.

00:42:21.920 No, no.

00:42:22.380 That was the last one.

00:42:23.240 This was Meghan McCain.

00:42:25.140 Oh, yes.

00:42:26.220 Oh, by the way, a frequent Tower –

00:42:28.800 Victim.

00:42:30.660 Victims.

00:42:31.060 He earns it.

00:42:31.260 Yes, and I'll show in the spam.

00:42:33.940 We have a specific spam for her because we tower her enough times.

00:42:39.420 This was related to the shootings that I was just talking about, the first of the two that made the news in the past couple of weeks or the past week or so, the Atlanta one.

00:42:50.500 And this is the tweet.

00:42:51.820 I condemn the reprehensible of violence and vitriol that has been targeted towards the Asian American community.

00:42:58.100 There is no doubt Donald Trump's racist rhetoric fueled many of these attacks.

00:43:02.780 And I apologize for any past comments that aided that agenda.

00:43:07.000 So, I mean, this is a situation where we see the left has really, I think, not really taken this stance until it becomes politically expedient for them where they want to push gun control.

00:43:22.540 So, now it's like, oh, this is, you know, a racist hate crime or whatever, which I don't even think there's any evidence that it was actually racist.

00:43:29.160 And it was just kind of a sex crazed name.

00:43:32.800 I trust what Toad looked for it.

00:43:33.920 He was mad about Hanwhore.

00:43:35.260 That just happened to the Asians.

00:43:37.300 Toad's like, damn, I really wish this was racist.

00:43:39.420 Well, so what we did is we decided to point out her father's racism, John McCain, who, you know, he definitely does not like the Vietnamese people.

00:43:55.120 And we have another suspended account in this one, but our tower on this one was, this is a direct quote from McCain, so we're not being racist here.

00:44:04.860 John McCain was, Daddy hates the gooks, or Daddy hated the gooks, which is, this is literally a quote from John McCain in 2000 or so, where not only did he say that, but he also, like, doubled down on it and was like, yeah, like, these guys, you know, imprisoned me in whatever, I don't know, it's just collectivist bullshit.

00:44:32.860 So we tweeted her with that, you know, just to point out her hypocrisy, her father's hypocrisy, whatever, and we had all these different, and this is the, this is the spam that we.

00:44:42.300 Shut up, Meg.

00:44:45.060 Spam was glorious.

00:44:47.700 Crying over her father's casket.

00:44:49.580 This is what we use whenever we tower her.

00:44:53.220 And then, yeah, the spam that I chose.

00:44:55.880 I mean, we had a rights-filled motherfucker.

00:44:58.120 This is literally the quote from John McCain right here.

00:45:03.460 You can't make this shit up.

00:45:06.660 It would have been better if he said zipper heads.

00:45:09.260 I mean, we posted news articles about it.

00:45:12.040 I posted a link to a book that is about it.

00:45:16.340 Dude, I remember when I was a kid, my best friend's dad, who was from New York, just, like, white Italian dude, which is, like, pretty much the most racist human being that you can be, is a white Italian dude from the 50s.

00:45:26.680 But he, he was talking to me about, I don't even know, but he said, he just turns to me and he goes, you know, those fucking zipper heads.

00:45:34.600 And I was like, I had no, I had no fucking clue what he was talking about.

00:45:39.100 None.

00:45:39.600 I was like, that's a funny description.

00:45:41.380 What are you referencing?

00:45:42.160 And he's like, the Vietnamese.

00:45:43.620 I was like, why?

00:45:45.720 Why are they zipper heads?

00:45:47.100 Why are you saying that?

00:45:47.880 He's like, because the fucking, the, the tank tracks, when they would run over them, it would make their fucking heads into zippers.

00:45:54.080 I was like, that's, that's awful.

00:45:56.520 I'm 12.

00:45:57.120 No, that was, I'm 12, why are you saying this?

00:46:00.380 Fuck.

00:46:02.400 This is a true story.

00:46:04.220 All right.

00:46:04.980 That's a great story.

00:46:07.140 Now comes the time where we fucking discuss which one wins the Golden Tower Award.

00:46:11.860 I think it's pretty clear.

00:46:12.720 My opinion is the fucking, the, the gook one.

00:46:15.700 Um, so pass it on.

00:46:18.340 What do you think, Cole?

00:46:19.560 Dude, I, I love the gook one just because.

00:46:25.180 We're just going to call it the gook one?

00:46:27.120 I love it just because it is like a direct quote.

00:46:32.020 So you can't even like, you, you just like, she would, she couldn't even deny it.

00:46:36.880 Yeah.

00:46:37.320 We are allowed to use a racial slur here because it's a direct quote.

00:46:41.840 I almost didn't even, I almost didn't even include this one.

00:46:46.800 For that reason.

00:46:48.620 But, oh, this is so, this is so clearly the best one.

00:46:51.620 It's, it's really, it's absurd to even measure it against anything we've ever done before because it is so.

00:46:57.120 Fucked up.

00:46:58.940 Quote, to quote her, her dead, dead.

00:47:01.840 And then we talk about how he's in hell.

00:47:03.740 And yeah, I mean, it's, it's a masterpiece.

00:47:06.640 Guess, guess who chose, who chose this tower?

00:47:10.500 Who was suggesting it?

00:47:12.220 That was me.

00:47:13.220 Yeah.

00:47:13.400 You always know the obscure references.

00:47:16.180 So I'll sometimes be like, whoa, dude, that's bullshit.

00:47:18.200 Like, wow.

00:47:18.660 In 1987, so-and-so said this, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:47:21.740 And Gorbachev said that.

00:47:23.180 You're like, what the fuck?

00:47:24.120 Like, how do you know this?

00:47:25.580 What's funny on this one?

00:47:26.500 Toad didn't even know that John McCain said that.

00:47:28.800 He was just.

00:47:29.280 I didn't listen up afterwards.

00:47:35.620 You know what's trippy?

00:47:36.380 How, how bad cancel, cancel culture has gotten.

00:47:38.980 And yet in 2012, a guy running for president, this wasn't even brought up.

00:47:44.100 It wasn't brought up.

00:47:45.140 No.

00:47:45.600 Not at all.

00:47:46.380 That's amazing.

00:47:47.140 No, I don't know.

00:47:48.020 But it's amazing.

00:47:48.820 But it's lost because he had binders full of women.

00:47:51.060 Like.

00:47:51.260 Yeah.

00:47:52.080 Or wait, was it 08?

00:47:53.100 I don't know.

00:47:53.520 Whatever.

00:47:53.760 But whenever McCain was fucking the Republican nominee and they didn't even bring up that

00:47:57.920 he, that he dropped this type of shit, like, whoa, doubled down on it.

00:48:03.320 I remember, I remember arguing with Toad about this in the group chat and be like, come on,

00:48:06.960 dude, this is over line.

00:48:08.080 This is not going to look good for PR reasons.

00:48:10.440 Like, we're trying to win the people over.

00:48:12.540 And he's like, dude, this is a direct quote.

00:48:13.800 I'm like, holy fuck, that's genius.

00:48:18.540 Are you, are you able to tower racial epithets and not get in trouble?

00:48:22.460 That's the point.

00:48:23.760 Well, I know, but like, no, I know, but we have all these people that are suspended.

00:48:28.100 I still don't know why.

00:48:29.320 Like, are they, is it just because they're saying crazy shit on their own?

00:48:32.820 Yeah.

00:48:33.420 I think so.

00:48:34.320 Oh, yeah.

00:48:34.880 I only know of one occasion where someone actually got dinged for towering.

00:48:38.980 Cause that's kind of the point is like, you're, you're only doing a letter.

00:48:41.940 Like, how can you really be faulted?

00:48:43.220 You know?

00:48:43.860 No, no.

00:48:44.440 I'm aware of the logic behind it, but it's just like, I see all these people suspended in

00:48:48.180 the, in the, you know, chains that we're reading off.

00:48:50.520 And I'm like, fuck, maybe we can get nuked for just dropping letters.

00:48:52.800 No, no, we gotta think.

00:48:53.760 The people that are in tower gang aren't necessarily like your grandma.

00:48:58.900 Like, it's not like.

00:49:00.280 No, they're all severely mentally ill racist.

00:49:02.100 Yeah.

00:49:02.240 No, I'm aware.

00:49:02.640 They, they, they, they didn't get, uh, they didn't get suspended for posting E on a, in

00:49:10.120 the fed, uh, tower.

00:49:13.900 They definitely got suspended for posting in, in another different word.

00:49:17.640 Which, which we, uh, we tried to get, uh, some of the LP, uh, accounts to, uh, to, uh, to

00:49:25.820 use that in the tower.

00:49:27.660 I think.

00:49:27.920 Oh, yeah.

00:49:28.540 We need to talk about it.

00:49:29.820 We need to talk about that.

00:49:31.020 We need to talk about that.

00:49:31.660 That's the gang bang, dude.

00:49:32.880 We have a gang bang bit too, where we go around and gang bang.

00:49:35.500 We're gang banging the LP state accounts today.

00:49:38.140 That's what we're fucking doing.

00:49:39.040 We were going to try to do LP overall because we had Maj and we wanted to give him a shit

00:49:42.560 on Starwalk a little bit.

00:49:43.580 Cause that's always fucking delightful, but it was such a bummer.

00:49:47.360 He didn't call him a goofy, but for the golden tower, for the golden tower, I'm going to go

00:49:53.640 with the gooks one as well.

00:49:54.920 I was going to go with the Maj one cause it got him on the show, but, uh, because he dropped

00:49:58.540 off, I'm going to switch my vote.

00:50:02.400 By the way, we, uh, before this happened, we were talking about like, um, what if like

00:50:07.920 somehow Maj doesn't show up, maybe something happens.

00:50:10.320 He can't get in here.

00:50:11.100 And I was just like, well, we have our gang bang set up already.

00:50:14.840 If he doesn't show, but that's good.

00:50:18.460 He showed.

00:50:18.820 So we don't gang bang him anyway.

00:50:20.160 Cause he dropped off.

00:50:21.140 That's true.

00:50:21.520 We could.

00:50:23.960 Speaking of gang, you don't want to gang bang with a gang banger.

00:50:27.060 That's true.

00:50:27.820 You're right.

00:50:29.460 Which by the way, we need to officially say that, um, what your father hated the gooks.

00:50:35.520 Was that dad or daddy hated the gooks?

00:50:37.320 Daddy hated the gooks.

00:50:38.300 Daddy hated the gooks is this week's, uh, golden tower winner and we'll be given award

00:50:43.600 after this show.

00:50:44.580 So I will tweet out from the official tower gang pod, uh, Twitter account and award to,

00:50:50.320 um, yeah, Megan McCain.

00:50:52.800 Actually, I'll, I'll give it to Megan McCain.

00:50:54.220 So it's kind of, give it to her direct account, but whatever you do, do not type it out.

00:51:00.240 Cause you, no, no, I mean, no person gets the, uh, the award, the tower gets the award.

00:51:07.580 I got it.

00:51:08.540 But yeah, well, yeah.

00:51:10.360 And I need to, uh, still make the, uh, the image for it, which we have that like golden

00:51:14.460 tower in Venice.

00:51:16.020 It looks like a fucking vibrator.

00:51:17.540 We're going to, we're going to make, we're going to make a silver bullet.

00:51:22.840 This is the golden bullet is what it is.

00:51:24.720 Well, I want to take it and have it like spraying urine up into the air and like making the canals

00:51:29.820 all golden.

00:51:30.760 Like, yeah, my dick's getting hurt.

00:51:32.940 Stop.

00:51:34.840 All right.

00:51:35.280 Onto the gang bang while we still have Clint stick hard.

00:51:38.280 Um, fucking.

00:51:39.780 All right.

00:51:40.260 To give a little bit backstory, why we chose the LP state accounts is because just recently

00:51:44.940 it was last night.

00:51:46.240 They fucking, in an act of ultimate cringe, they decided to like tag a bunch of other

00:51:50.880 LP accounts and go, Hey, we're going to start a fucking tower gang guys.

00:51:54.540 This will be fucking great.

00:51:56.200 And like, there were some people, I mean, of course nobody here that immediately was like,

00:52:01.800 Oh, I'll be great.

00:52:02.520 If we get these LP guys in here, they could fucking really like this.

00:52:05.280 It was fun.

00:52:06.260 And they jumped on her like, this is a great fucking move to have the LP state accounts

00:52:12.020 fucking jumping in, making tower gangs.

00:52:14.320 My position is if they want to come in our tower gangs, if we accept them, they show dong

00:52:19.020 and they're based enough, they can fucking hop in and maybe one day they can go to a

00:52:23.100 point to where they can make their own.

00:52:24.720 But let's be fucking real.

00:52:25.940 We all know how the LP is.

00:52:27.400 They don't fucking have the manpower to have any sort of baseness whatsoever.

00:52:31.560 There might be like one or two fucking base counts out there, but once they make

00:52:34.560 a gang conglomerate as a group, they're going to fucking suck ass.

00:52:39.240 So like, let's be real.

00:52:41.400 Fucking stay in your lane.

00:52:42.900 If you're based, come join our fucking tower gangs as yourself.

00:52:46.480 I mean, like I kind of made a point all day, just raging, fucking being like trying to

00:52:50.280 get them to do really abhorrent towers to be like, prove a point of like, see, this

00:52:54.120 is why they say the fuck out because they can't do the real shit.

00:52:57.260 So I don't want to hear it.

00:52:58.920 I don't even want to hear it from you, Jose, because you.

00:53:02.440 All right.

00:53:02.880 We had a tweet today, which is probably going to be a golden tower for next week, which

00:53:07.020 is rope, rope, journalist and tree, some assembly required.

00:53:14.900 And Jose in the chat goes, I don't know if I'm going to be a part of that one.

00:53:18.860 This little bitch comes in shitting all over the LP because they won't do spicy towers.

00:53:24.500 They didn't jump in one because it said pussy.

00:53:26.900 All right.

00:53:27.200 I didn't want to fucking get my account room for fucking threatening a journalist's life.

00:53:31.740 You were a little bit different.

00:53:33.760 You were calling the LP national a pussy and you wanted the LP states to jump into that.

00:53:39.840 Like, so all of them just like, oh, the base ones, let's just get those guys out and

00:53:45.180 just have the LP national replace them with their dudes.

00:53:48.120 At least some of these, like, I'll be up front.

00:53:51.280 I'm in the LP tower gang and I'm defending them and so is Toad.

00:53:58.480 Toad is also, and we have some good ass people in there.

00:54:01.940 That are going to keep them in line.

00:54:04.320 I think we did.

00:54:06.080 I don't know if they're actually in that one.

00:54:06.940 You guys do taxation and theft today?

00:54:08.900 That'd be really cool.

00:54:13.340 I mean, I can show what we did today.

00:54:15.220 I floated that out to them.

00:54:16.640 I said, jokingly, I said, I feel like y'all's first one is going to be taxation and theft.

00:54:20.660 And they said, no, that's gay.

00:54:22.640 They said, no, that's gay.

00:54:24.260 Okay.

00:54:24.580 All right.

00:54:25.260 If they tower, no, that's gay under Nick Sarwak's tweet, then I'll believe that they're fucking

00:54:30.500 gay.

00:54:30.680 That'd be so perfect.

00:54:31.740 So I will say that, so we have LP Kentucky and Connecticut are both in there and they're

00:54:40.940 like fairly based.

00:54:42.580 I would say.

00:54:43.120 Kentucky had the tweet today about the COVID vaccines being the new Star of David.

00:54:49.940 Yeah.

00:54:50.160 That was a great tweet.

00:54:51.500 That was like the first great LP tweet of the year.

00:54:54.260 They actually did reverse.

00:54:55.580 You might need to bring up though, LPKY fucking, uh, fucking blocked fucking, uh, L-pop-up.

00:55:01.420 No, we talked about this.

00:55:01.720 It was on accident.

00:55:02.460 They muted it.

00:55:03.140 It's still a bitch move.

00:55:04.300 It's bullshit.

00:55:05.460 Let's go, let's go, let's bring an Ovaltine and see how many fucking dudes he's blocked

00:55:10.560 and muted.

00:55:11.400 I mean, you want to say Ovaltine?

00:55:12.900 I feel like it's different.

00:55:14.320 The feeling's different.

00:55:15.220 Okay.

00:55:15.740 Yeah.

00:55:16.000 I feel like it's different.

00:55:16.460 So, I mean, let me see if I can, uh, I just got a notification in my LP tower game that

00:55:23.020 says they are talking about us.

00:55:28.540 Fucking go, go away, nerds.

00:55:32.120 We love you.

00:55:33.380 You're actually a base libertarian party.

00:55:35.520 You are what Maj was talking about.

00:55:36.800 Prove me wrong.

00:55:37.960 Yeah, exactly.

00:55:38.540 If, if all of the fucking LP blue check accounts lay like a serious, serious tower, like, like

00:55:45.680 the John McCain Goog one, which is fucking gnarly.

00:55:48.600 If, if, if a whole bunch of blue checks spell out a racial epithet, I will be a believer until

00:55:53.480 that point.

00:55:54.600 I don't know.

00:55:55.500 We'll see.

00:55:55.900 I don't know.

00:55:58.940 Something.

00:56:02.200 Oh, we never talked to Maj about doing that or whatever, whatever it was that he said.

00:56:07.060 I don't remember.

00:56:07.520 I don't know why.

00:56:08.160 I was in the impression he called someone a goofy faggot, but apparently he said eat

00:56:12.420 a dick.

00:56:12.800 I don't know why I thought he said goofy faggot.

00:56:14.660 Cause that just sounds hilarious.

00:56:15.760 Like I'm from Maj's mouth.

00:56:17.020 He said, eat a dick, goofy faggot.

00:56:19.840 He says goofy a lot.

00:56:21.020 And he says eat a dick a lot, but he doesn't say faggot a lot.

00:56:24.080 What is this?

00:56:25.280 I'm going to go back to this real quick.

00:56:26.640 This is the LP Kentucky when they started this, uh, LP state account, uh, tower game thing,

00:56:33.700 which LP Texas, we don't want them involved.

00:56:36.180 Like they're not based at all.

00:56:38.100 Literally just, just you pulling this up made me yawn.

00:56:41.740 No bullshit.

00:56:42.420 I just yawned right away.

00:56:43.200 So, so first, well, just cause I have the tower up or I did.

00:56:47.520 Yeah.

00:56:47.580 Here it is.

00:56:48.020 We towered LP Kentucky with the show Dawn first.

00:56:51.580 Good.

00:56:54.220 I'm in there.

00:56:56.160 So am I.

00:56:57.000 And I don't think, I don't think, I don't think I can scroll down because, uh, we, we towered

00:57:01.100 him with, we towered them with, uh, Peter North.

00:57:04.240 No, it's Peter North with a, uh, with a sandwich, right?

00:57:08.840 Should I actually look?

00:57:11.160 That whole tweet, multiple like threads within it are a perfect example of why they need to

00:57:16.580 not make their own tower game.

00:57:17.780 Maybe join ours.

00:57:18.660 I thought they did a good job.

00:57:19.320 Because they got fucking thrashed on.

00:57:21.100 They have like two of them.

00:57:22.080 What can they say?

00:57:22.700 No.

00:57:23.360 And this was awesome.

00:57:25.560 By the way, they, they did.

00:57:27.760 I do want to tell you before you go.

00:57:29.840 They, uh, someone in the, in the group chat was just like, Hey, um, do we just want the

00:57:35.320 LP accounts to do the towers?

00:57:37.220 And the guy was like, there's like three of us.

00:57:39.040 And so I was like, you can just every Kamala tweet, just say pig, just on every Kamala tweet.

00:57:45.960 I was like, that would've been perfect.

00:57:47.180 If you just do that, honestly, you're pretty good in my book.

00:57:50.300 Oh, so this week we did, uh, there, there was one tweet where I don't have it, you know,

00:57:54.460 ready to go right now, but, uh, it was, uh, it was, uh, I think it was a tweet from Kamala

00:57:59.480 Harris's account about her flying to Florida to like, tell them to like lock down again

00:58:04.920 or something.

00:58:05.360 And we tweeted when pigs fly, we, we towered it.

00:58:09.760 I mean, so yeah.

00:58:13.300 Toad, you have such a severe drinking problem that you literally will stop mid sentence and

00:58:17.740 take a drink while you're on a live recording.

00:58:23.080 Straws are a bitch.

00:58:24.320 He's just like, he's like, so this is what we're doing this week.

00:58:28.200 Then we towered Kamala.

00:58:33.020 I'm just that comfortable, man.

00:58:36.640 We're recording live.

00:58:38.400 Oh yeah, that's right.

00:58:39.180 We'll, we'll, we'll edit this in post.

00:58:42.220 Yeah.

00:58:42.340 We'll move it in post.

00:58:43.720 No, who watches this?

00:58:44.980 Who's really watching this?

00:58:45.980 Come on.

00:58:46.560 Yeah.

00:58:46.920 Every, uh, viewers.

00:58:48.800 Yeah.

00:58:49.180 Every, uh, yeah.

00:58:51.000 Nine.

00:58:51.700 It just went up.

00:58:52.080 I wanted to talk to Maj.

00:58:53.620 I'm so sad.

00:58:54.820 We got like 20 minutes with him.

00:58:56.400 Did you even get a chance to plug your shit to him?

00:58:58.880 Not at all.

00:59:00.240 No.

00:59:00.800 Cause I was gone for a solid minute.

00:59:02.300 Just so y'all know, I'm out here in Florida and the fuck it just randomly stormed sometimes.

00:59:05.980 And of course my router got fucked.

00:59:08.120 So that's why I was gone for a minute.

00:59:10.220 That's why, that's why I went to you first on the question because I thought we might lose

00:59:13.300 you again, but I'm, then it ended up fucking cold cause he got cut off.

00:59:16.440 So I don't know.

00:59:17.360 I tried.

00:59:17.900 I tried.

00:59:18.300 This was just brutal.

00:59:19.320 You really did.

00:59:19.760 You did a good job actually.

00:59:20.800 Like, uh, thank you.

00:59:22.080 I did.

00:59:22.340 I really did try.

00:59:23.340 I really did.

00:59:24.920 What was, we had another tower that was really good this week.

00:59:29.000 This last week, I want to say, well, we had the castly three branch tower or that's just

00:59:33.640 the three towers that got us all blocked by him.

00:59:36.340 There was another one that I thought we had floated around.

00:59:38.760 That was really good, but I can't remember it off the top of my head.

00:59:42.460 I thought it had to do with star work.

00:59:44.060 Well, I mean, if we're, if we're gangbanging the LP state accounts, I was going to say

00:59:47.720 that like some of these LP accounts came in with like just a single letter and then

00:59:51.900 we just self towers them.

00:59:53.500 So like Libertarian of Texas came in with E cause they were like, Oh, like, you know,

00:59:59.000 are they going to say they're going to join this, uh, tower gang thing?

01:00:01.940 I really don't know what they were going for.

01:00:03.320 By the way, we turned it into except you.

01:00:07.820 Yo, what you guys ought to do is if they, if they, if you see the corporate accounts

01:00:11.980 try to tower, if they put an N, you fill it out.

01:00:16.800 That already happened.

01:00:18.140 I believe.

01:00:18.860 Or an, or an R.

01:00:21.660 What is this?

01:00:22.540 What's our retard?

01:00:23.580 Yeah.

01:00:23.740 Not as based, but it's, well, yeah.

01:00:31.240 Oh man.

01:00:33.000 I mean, I think the other, the other tweet that Cole is thinking, man, the only other

01:00:37.320 one that comes to, well, so we had the pair of violent one.

01:00:40.100 That was, that's the one I'm thinking of, which was, I mean, do you want to look at that?

01:00:43.760 I do have that.

01:00:44.720 Just what'd you say to him?

01:00:46.520 Somebody asked, by the way, where can you see all the recent towers?

01:00:50.020 I will be honest.

01:00:50.700 We're not so great at it, but there's, we keep some of them on the Twitter account.

01:00:54.520 So no, here's what we're going to do.

01:00:55.920 And I think this is, tell them what the Twitter handle is.

01:00:59.160 Tower Gang Pod on Twitter, Tower Gang Pod.

01:01:03.840 We're going to try going forward.

01:01:05.700 One, I really want to get a discord going and every tower, someone can just post on the

01:01:12.080 discord and keep a running log of all the towers we do, which I think would be awesome.

01:01:16.920 Yeah, it's too much for just one person to keep track of, though.

01:01:19.840 Yeah, it's, but I mean, if we have a bunch of people in the discord and we'll, we would

01:01:23.040 definitely need your help, but also a discord for this is, what?

01:01:27.140 I think that, I think I've hashtagged every tower that we've done since we started this

01:01:32.320 podcast.

01:01:32.900 Develop the system.

01:01:33.960 I mean, that's great.

01:01:35.880 And, but if we can, yeah.

01:01:39.080 And it's really hard for us because we all have jobs to.

01:01:44.400 To.

01:01:44.680 I now have like a full time job with this podcast shit.

01:01:51.420 It's really intense.

01:01:52.240 Like, I can't even believe how much time I'm spending on this, but it's really fun.

01:01:55.320 So I'm not complaining.

01:01:55.980 It's awesome.

01:01:56.620 I do want to say though, what, what is the beef?

01:02:00.220 Does anyone actually know?

01:02:01.440 Does anyone know spoon in real life?

01:02:03.360 Like, can we, can we figure out what the fuck the issue is?

01:02:05.460 Cause like the last thing I want is for this really fun, organic experience to become some

01:02:10.800 fucking political infighting garbage.

01:02:12.720 Like that is not what this is about at all.

01:02:15.460 We're not the LP.

01:02:16.500 Yeah.

01:02:16.860 Like fuck.

01:02:17.580 Like if, if, if the fucking tower gang can't keep it together, fuck, we have no chance of

01:02:22.480 fucking doing anything with the LP.

01:02:23.980 Power corrupts.

01:02:26.280 What power?

01:02:27.700 Cloud corrupt.

01:02:28.200 Power power.

01:02:29.040 I mean, I don't know.

01:02:31.380 The, the best that I can think of is that like, I don't know, like some of us came in

01:02:36.260 like a couple of weeks later and we decided to make a podcast out of it.

01:02:40.700 Yeah.

01:02:41.220 I mean, that's pretty much it.

01:02:42.380 That was our sin.

01:02:43.280 Not being here a couple of weeks later.

01:02:45.640 I feel like it was days later, not weeks.

01:02:47.780 Like we, we got in there pretty quick.

01:02:49.480 All of us did.

01:02:50.680 I mean, I was, I was the latest of all of you, but yeah.

01:02:53.840 And listen, and you're the most dedicated fucking tower there is.

01:02:56.800 So yeah.

01:02:57.960 Yeah.

01:02:58.140 Yeah.

01:02:58.520 Full, full honesty.

01:03:00.260 We are, we are the second iteration.

01:03:03.000 There was an original, like we call alpha.

01:03:04.980 We joke that we're the real alpha now, but we call them the OGs now, but we are the second

01:03:09.840 iteration, but we're the ones who fucking took on a fucking podcast.

01:03:13.100 I don't know.

01:03:13.760 And I'll tell the story.

01:03:15.580 Like, so early on, I mean, it was probably within like the second or third day I was part

01:03:20.120 of tower gang.

01:03:21.040 I was just like, listen, absolute tower corrupts.

01:03:23.440 Absolutely.

01:03:23.960 Go on.

01:03:24.300 Absolute tower corrupts.

01:03:25.680 Absolutely.

01:03:26.000 Um, but I, I like me and Ovaltine who is not in tower gang anymore.

01:03:32.000 Rest in peace.

01:03:32.960 Uh, big black man.

01:03:34.460 Um, he was just like, listen, we need, I think a podcast would be really fun.

01:03:40.940 And I was just like, hell yeah, I'm down for it all day, every day.

01:03:44.600 And then pretty much just pushed it enough to where Jose was just like, yeah, I'll do

01:03:51.440 it.

01:03:51.660 And then we just started getting new people in and basically just, it came out of that.

01:03:57.280 It was literally nothing like, Oh, we want clout.

01:04:00.900 It's just a joke, but we really, we really just wanted to come in and have fun and talk

01:04:04.760 about random towers top of random shit with some other political people are like tripping

01:04:08.360 on, on the money that, that this is allegedly going to make.

01:04:11.520 Let me tell you, as someone with a show that does like, I don't know, 5,000 times the amount

01:04:16.720 of viewership is this, you don't make a lot of money from podcasting.

01:04:19.940 So everyone could fucking relax on the whole, we literally did this for fun.

01:04:23.460 This was, it was just because we, we all liked each other.

01:04:26.760 And instead of having, I think it actually came up because me and old team were having

01:04:31.740 a debate in the group chat and he was like, this is so much better if we did it in like

01:04:35.260 voice, but it's also good content.

01:04:37.100 And instead of doing like an actual debate show where we talk about political stuff all

01:04:40.900 the time, we just wanted to have fun because that's what tower gang is about.

01:04:44.560 And the only reason a lot of the OG people weren't in there is we didn't fucking know them.

01:04:50.540 We just, they were, they weren't, we weren't in their group chats.

01:04:54.040 Because they were, we technically, I feel like I didn't see a lot of their towers.

01:04:58.360 I feel like once beta came up, we started like towering way more than they did.

01:05:02.720 And we grew pretty fast.

01:05:03.920 And here's, here's the truth of it.

01:05:05.280 If they, if they want to start a tower gang podcast and it's better than ours or yours,

01:05:11.140 I'm not even like including myself in this, then, then people will listen to that.

01:05:14.940 It like, this is all so petty and ridiculous.

01:05:17.520 Like this is a meritocracy.

01:05:18.820 If your shit is funnier, like it's like the, with the towers, if fucking a team comes up with

01:05:23.180 the tower and it's the fucking best tower of the week, it gets the golden tower.

01:05:26.480 And if a team does, it's the golden tower.

01:05:28.120 Like I just, there needs to be more camaraderie here, folks.

01:05:30.740 We're all fucking oppressed by the state.

01:05:33.000 We're together in this fight.

01:05:34.600 Right.

01:05:35.160 And also, and even then, sorry.

01:05:36.740 And even then there's, there's coordination amongst our gangs.

01:05:39.500 So even then we will jump in together.

01:05:41.260 So same thing applies to podcasts.

01:05:42.840 And this is how economics works for anyone who's not a smooth brain.

01:05:45.760 Me and Clint both have a fucking podcast.

01:05:47.960 I know he's way ahead of mine right now, but like I will work with other people.

01:05:51.820 We are not adversaries in this space.

01:05:53.920 If anything, we like, you know, like I have someone onto my podcast.

01:05:57.500 He has someone on, I have him on, whatever.

01:05:59.100 And we work to build each other up.

01:06:00.880 Like it's not a, it's not an adversarial thing.

01:06:03.240 It's just fucking silly.

01:06:04.460 There's plenty of space in the sea.

01:06:06.180 And then also just another thing real quick.

01:06:08.440 So people know Clint, you're like, well, like 60 ish episodes or whatever.

01:06:11.760 And you got your big Dave smooth.

01:06:13.260 Almost 70.

01:06:14.140 Yeah.

01:06:14.360 70.

01:06:14.940 Okay.

01:06:15.360 I'm like around 40 ish, like 41, 42.

01:06:18.260 And I have, I'm like about a hundred subs, 108 ish subs on YouTube.

01:06:24.200 Just give it a rough idea.

01:06:25.560 I am in the hole.

01:06:27.160 I've been doing this for like six months.

01:06:29.060 I lose money doing this.

01:06:30.600 This is not some glorious money making fucking thing.

01:06:33.620 I mean, you know, you're in the same place at one point too.

01:06:37.040 So I'm still in that place though.

01:06:40.160 I'm not, I'm not making any money off my show.

01:06:41.680 I've made a couple hundred bucks selling shirts, like big fucking deal.

01:06:44.360 Right.

01:06:44.440 I'm, I'm rich separately from podcasting, but this podcasting shit is purely passion.

01:06:49.280 Like this is, I am not making money off this.

01:06:51.960 I'm losing tons of money and I'm spending God forsaken amounts of time on it.

01:06:55.700 So please everyone fucking relax.

01:06:58.500 Like just say what you want.

01:07:00.300 It was said before, you'll have anybody on.

01:07:02.960 We don't care.

01:07:03.900 The only reason we had the people we had on is that we were in the chat together.

01:07:08.320 We literally just happened like the, the, the, the Shane Hazel, uh, last week, Jose texted

01:07:14.940 him 20 minutes before and said, Hey, you want to come on?

01:07:18.620 And the dude came on like monster rate.

01:07:21.080 Like it's, it's these things like, but we, when we first started, we were just thinking

01:07:25.860 we would just have on, you know, like a random people in the tower gang will be, you know,

01:07:31.940 just kind of bullshitting around for an hour and a half with just get 10 views and we would

01:07:37.240 be stoked out of our minds, but like it's blown up a little bit, a tiny bit.

01:07:42.900 We've gotten some really cool people on and we have other people like, um, we already

01:07:47.780 try to want to get on Cody.

01:07:49.400 We want to get on, um, Josh.

01:07:52.600 Um, I'm trying to think who else we, but these people that like are, we're a part of tower

01:07:56.780 gang almost from the beginning.

01:07:58.500 We already want them on anyway.

01:08:00.060 So we'll have anybody on.

01:08:01.880 We don't want to, I want to fucking have cholera fan and neocon remover and you know, a handful

01:08:07.500 of the, like the funniest motherfuckers on the planet.

01:08:10.040 Like I don't even know whether, whether they're members of tower gang or whatever, like fucking

01:08:15.180 bring them on.

01:08:15.700 If they're OG, if they're C team, they're fucking hilarious.

01:08:18.580 Who cares?

01:08:19.180 Yeah.

01:08:19.880 A circus wants to come on.

01:08:21.520 We want a circus to come on.

01:08:22.900 Like we, we don't care.

01:08:24.260 Like if, if we, if you have like 10 followers on Twitter and you're funny as hell in the

01:08:28.600 group chat, we want to come, you want to have you on to show you off because we think

01:08:32.860 you're hilarious.

01:08:33.520 And that's definitely true.

01:08:34.620 Even Dave, was it Dave that said it, that he thinks that we just have a bunch of funny

01:08:38.520 people like we're basically all comedians on Twitter to the way the shit we do, but.

01:08:43.400 No, that's what I said.

01:08:44.080 I said that this is, this is a professional comedy writing team and you guys do it for

01:08:48.360 free and it's fucking beautiful.

01:08:49.340 And if you guys start to fight over this stupid shit, it's going to make me very unhappy.

01:08:53.860 So please stop.

01:08:55.400 It's basically Dave at this point.

01:08:57.500 So no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:09:00.000 But you know what I'm saying though?

01:09:00.920 Like this is a fucking beautiful thing and it's organic and it doesn't need to be infighting

01:09:04.720 like for the love of God, everyone chill out with the ego shit.

01:09:07.660 Like this is so ridiculous.

01:09:09.540 I can't even, I can't even like put into words how ridiculous it is that people are getting

01:09:13.540 upset and blocking people because of who is and who isn't on the show.

01:09:17.440 Everyone's going to get in here, man.

01:09:18.840 Relax.

01:09:19.320 One more thing.

01:09:20.080 And I've been, I've been seeing this too.

01:09:21.700 It's people that were pre tower that were in the tower gang definitely were.

01:09:25.100 I know they were, cause I did see them now going like tower gang is dead when it's literally

01:09:29.360 the biggest that it has ever been.

01:09:31.440 Fuck off because you're a piece of shit.

01:09:34.720 And I hate you because like, no, seriously, because like you are literally just a grifter

01:09:41.920 and you were in, it is pissy.

01:09:46.300 I saw this the other day or actually today.

01:09:49.260 And I was like, y'all are just trying to put down something because you're not a part

01:09:53.720 of it anymore.

01:09:54.280 Even though we got shout outs from Dave, we have, even though you don't like it when

01:09:59.820 the libertarian parties like start saying this shit, like it's kind of big.

01:10:04.080 Like, it's not like, we're not a small, we're not a niche anymore.

01:10:07.420 And we're still being, we're still being funny as hell.

01:10:10.440 We still have some of the best towers we're ever doing right now.

01:10:13.540 It's not fucking dead.

01:10:14.660 It'll be dead whenever we're all towering in the fed and fucking taxation is theft every

01:10:23.060 fucking time.

01:10:23.660 But no, we're still being super original.

01:10:25.780 We're still being really funny.

01:10:27.660 And we're still based as fuck.

01:10:30.120 And like, I will admit when it's dead, because at some point it might die.

01:10:35.100 But when it dies, we're definitely have something else coming up afterwards.

01:10:38.400 That's going to be even funnier and even better.

01:10:40.480 But don't say it's dead now.

01:10:42.080 Fuck you.

01:10:42.980 All right, guys.

01:10:43.760 It's in late.

01:10:44.840 I'm trying to fuck the old lady tonight.

01:10:46.700 So let's fucking wrap this up.

01:10:49.740 I'm Clint from Liberty Lockdown.

01:10:52.420 I will be on Jose's show, what was it, next week?

01:10:55.660 We'll figure it out.

01:10:56.280 We haven't, I haven't figured out a date.

01:10:57.980 I figured if I pressured you here, you have to.

01:11:00.660 The first episode, you laid out like all these amazing guests you're having on.

01:11:04.560 What's your coming up guests on your pod?

01:11:07.260 Oh, it's still, I mean, I gave you like the entire month's run out.

01:11:11.800 But yeah, I also added Tim Moan, which is the, he's the head of the LP in Canada.

01:11:19.540 So that's kind of cool.

01:11:20.360 Yeah.

01:11:20.840 Even though I hate Canadians.

01:11:22.860 No, no.

01:11:23.340 All of a sudden you love the LP.

01:11:26.080 Yeah.

01:11:26.660 I mean, I have a handful.

01:11:28.220 I don't know if I love the LP.

01:11:29.580 Anyways, I have, I have that whole fucking month is just booked.

01:11:32.760 And I already, I already shouted it all out.

01:11:34.240 So just trust me, everybody subscribe.

01:11:35.960 It's going to be fucking rad.

01:11:37.300 The show is like unbelievably blowing up.

01:11:39.780 I had 25,000 downloads last month.

01:11:44.800 25,000.

01:11:46.260 It's like, my show is a real thing.

01:11:48.280 It's fucking crazy.

01:11:49.320 So yeah, check it out guys.

01:11:51.200 Yeah.

01:11:51.320 Go check him out.

01:11:51.920 He's got the Dave seal of approval.

01:11:53.480 So, you know, he's good.

01:11:54.540 He's had Dave on, he's been on Dave's show.

01:11:56.400 I mean, just fucking big dick swing.

01:11:59.720 That was amazing.

01:12:00.880 I've watched it.

01:12:01.680 I've watched it like four times.

01:12:02.780 I'm such a fucking narcissist.

01:12:03.720 I watch all my shit over again too, even though I don't really have is that big with shit.

01:12:08.920 But I'm a, my show's okay.

01:12:10.860 You know, check it out.

01:12:12.980 No way Jose.

01:12:14.320 I'm on YouTube under by that too.

01:12:16.500 Basically anywhere podcasts are at.

01:12:18.760 Give me money.

01:12:19.480 Cause I am losing money.

01:12:20.380 I'd like to at least not lose money.

01:12:21.580 That'd be cool.

01:12:22.520 So patreon.com slash no way Jose 2020.

01:12:25.120 You can also give me crypto and the fed.app slash no way.

01:12:28.980 Or my shit on there is no way Jose 2020 as well.

01:12:32.240 Yeah.

01:12:32.700 Fucking, if you want to email me for any reason, you have any ideas for episode or whatever the fuck, uh, the Liberty movement global at gmail.com.

01:12:39.880 That's it.

01:12:40.640 So y'all got any, I mean, this is y'all's plug.

01:12:43.380 So yeah.

01:12:44.020 Toad, go ahead.

01:12:44.700 Uh, well, yeah, I, I, I never, uh, rewatch myself.

01:12:49.780 I'm like Larry Bird, you know, I just shoot it and just walk away, but he goes, but well, Larry Bird is a huge asshole and he was a huge asshole to me at one point.

01:13:01.100 But, uh, anyway, for another pod, I guess the entire concept of this show is you looking back at your work from the week and talking about it.

01:13:09.460 So I don't know what you're talking about.

01:13:10.700 I, I look at the towers, but that's about it.

01:13:13.320 And they're like huge letter, huge letter penises.

01:13:16.700 So it's just a really gay thing.

01:13:18.960 But, but yeah, I mean, I have this podcast, uh, I believe it's called the tower power hour.

01:13:23.500 Uh, you should probably check that out.

01:13:26.580 You shouldn't plug the show on the show.

01:13:28.580 Oh shit.

01:13:31.140 I am a anarcho underscore toad on Twitter.

01:13:34.040 So you can follow me there and that's pretty much it.

01:13:36.680 Yup.

01:13:37.120 And I'm Cole Schmidt.

01:13:39.060 I'm anarcho engineer or not engineer anarcho eng eng on Twitter.

01:13:43.980 I didn't get to shout out that last week because my phone died while I was recording.

01:13:48.160 They said it was pretty funny, but, um, but yeah, this has been the tower power hour episode three.

01:13:53.740 Um, hope y'all enjoyed it and, uh, we'll be back next week.

01:13:58.060 Awesome.

01:13:58.480 Peace everybody.

01:13:59.320 Love you.

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Tower Gang - July 20, 2021

Ep 3 - Problematic to Cowards w⧸ Maj Toure

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