Ep 45 - Mises Maui Mommy Milkers w⧸ Marc Clair
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 38 minutes
Words per Minute
192.58864
Summary
Toad, Cole, and Fat Dave are back with a new episode of Tower Gang, featuring a special guest, Mark Clare of the Lions of Liberty! The guys talk about the NFL draft, 9/11, and a man bun.
Transcript
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Check out the big stars, big series, and blockbuster movies
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Women jerk off dicks like fucking they're an unruly ferret.
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You see, the socialists don't have an accurate answer for this,
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We can stay horny and retarded longer than she can stay sane.
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Ben, maybe you could say we had sex, but we didn't fuck.
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Welcome, everybody, to another episode of Tower Gang.
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As always, we've got Toad, Cole, a.k.a. Fat Dave, myself, Clint Russell from Liberty Lockdown,
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and a special guest, weighing in at 345 pounds, defensive end for the Detroit Lions.
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I just knocked water everywhere doing that click.
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I make it electrocuted during this segment, so make history.
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Your floor is not the only thing getting wet, big dog.
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Yeah, I need to tell my wife to get out of the chat to stop watching the show with Mark
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Mark's like, is it okay if I'm high coming into this?
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I don't think it was in our post as a question.
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Because I am not going to be able to get through this sober, so let's just hook it up.
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The rest of us are high on retardation, so, I mean, we're all high.
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Yeah, Elizabeth said that she bets you can wear the shit out of a man bun, and I feel
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I don't typically do that performance art, but, you know, occasionally I will, you know,
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sometimes you got to tie it back just to get it out of your way.
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Mark looks like the dude that goes to the yoga studio and just fucks everything.
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Dude, if you know how to play guitar, at Penn State, you must have been just pulling in
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I did not know how to play guitar, to be honest with you.
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Or just even just have a guitar in your lap, and then just sit in the quad.
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I can strum that thing so it looks like I'm about to play a song and never actually start.
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The man bun would completely change, like, the vibe, though, and then it would look like
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he was somebody who, like, got killed by Connor Rittenhouse.
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Speaking of, did anyone watch the interview tonight?
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Didn't he say something about, didn't he say something about BLM, like, uh, I support
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It was a very small segment of the show, but, um, that aside, very, very impressive young
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Like, seriously, I would highly encourage anybody that still thinks that he's some cold-blooded
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Like, the kid comes off like, uh, an Eagle Scout.
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I mean, he's, he's a really, really impressive kid.
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I think it's, it's sad that this is what had to, like, kind of bring his life into prominence
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because I think that he's, he's, he could actually accomplish some things in life, believe
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I don't know if he really is, but I actually am.
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You're like, I can tie you up and get an ass from your Scoutmaster isn't really that impressive.
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My Scoutmaster was actually, did actually have like a scandal about some kind of thing with
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I actually don't think he's, he's guilty though.
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He treated me way too good to be, uh, to be guilty.
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Cause, uh, we, we do know that, uh, Mark is familiar with the Sandusky thing being a,
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When he got, when did you, when did you go to Penn state?
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So you, I mean, you were there when he was there.
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I'm starting to think that there's a lot of child rape that's occurring around Mark
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I'm not, I'm not, I'm not getting raped and I'm not doing the raping, but it's happening
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I'm like, I think there's something going on here.
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I never saw, I never saw her with any underage kids.
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Who I also think is innocent, by the way, it's sensing a theme.
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I just presume it and then go on that assumption.
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A lot of times they'll use like a kid as like a decoy to lure, like the other kids in
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I was the hot kid that brought the other kids to the dance.
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I didn't actually have this hair to my thirties, believe it or not.
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Were you like clean cut, buzz cut, or like, like, you know.
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I'm waiting until my fifties to grow my hair out like you.
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Yeah, Tyler Yankee, Tyler Yankee of Liberty Podcast Review asks,
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Of all the things to say, now we're going to get nuked.
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I have to build a stand-up comedy set for Sayulita.
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But for now, we can say Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong.
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Because Reed Coverdale got a 12-hour on Twitter for saying exactly that.
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after the jury concluded that that was the case.
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I'm literally writing a note, ivermectin for my hair.
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And hopefully I'll have some idea what that means later.
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I still don't know what the fuck mane and tail is.
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I thought it was just like, I don't know, long-haired dudes having gay sex or something.
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But there was some things happening in the vicinity.
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I called Kyle Rittenhouse an impressive and kind young man about 10 minutes ago.
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Yeah, I'm literally, I'm doing a Reed Coverdale.
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I got to be on Josh's show in like three minutes.
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Well, the fucking art you made for this is amazing.
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What's going on with the debate with Dave Smith and all that?
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This is like, I don't know if you can call it breaking news.
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But I challenged Dave Smith and Scott Greer to debate each other.
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This one's for raising meals through Town Circle.
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I don't know if you guys have seen some of the debates there.
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But basically, people pledge to get the people to agree to the debate.
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So, hey, we can have a fun debate and raise some money for people at the same time.
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He also has a – people call him a white supremacist, which makes me think he might be okay.
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Not because we're white supremacists, but because good people are often called those.
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Yeah, he may have a high IQ, but he has very low history knowledge when it comes to military intervention.
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I did like how he – like Dave said something about George Bush not technically invading Somalia or whatever.
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This guy rolls with Scott Horton like six days a week.
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In true libertarian fashion, I'm joining you guys from my parents' basement in New Hampshire.
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These are the stickers that were supposed to be here.
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He's only leaving because he's no longer the best trucker in the chat.
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Why would you leave this show to go to a show with less ratings?
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There's – fuck, I don't know what they're called.
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There has not been a single dislike on a Tower King podcast.
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Our troll fans are going to absolutely start it in downboats.
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So I found this guy, which he's on YouTube Shorts.
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But he's just a trucker, and he literally just like films himself like filling up his truck,
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No, it's like the most boring guy I've ever heard.
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And he's just like, yeah, I'm a trucker, and like, you know, sometimes we have to fill
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And then he just like shows himself filling up, and he's like, have you got to check?
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But like the last time – one of the ones I saw, I had like 1.1 million likes, and it
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It was just like – or like he was like, for dinner, I don't like to eat out all the
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So he just has a microwave in his truck, and it just like shows him microwaving food.
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So am I really fucking up by doing this political thing?
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We all are fucking up by doing this political thing.
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If you're a trucker, especially like – you do long haul like ginormous shit.
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You could easily be like, this is what I'm hauling today, and just show some big ass
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Sometimes, but they don't get 1.1 million views.
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You need to get on TikTok and start dancing, and then be the dancing trucker.
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Right, and refresh the algo, because I think you're fucking toast.
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I don't know why that would ever happen to my show, but –
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I think my last episode might straight up get removed for hate speech, and I wouldn't
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Mark, have you ever had an episode removed from YouTube?
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We actually had an episode – we just had an episode removed that was a private – it
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It was only for our patrons, and even not being a public episode, it was removed.
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It was about the Travis Scott concert weird shit.
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I was going to say, it was conspiracy corner, right?
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So we got that removed, and we got a strike for it, so we can post for like a week or something
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Our days are numbered, and we know this, so –
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Just because you said the Travis Scott concert, Astroworld, was a satanic ritual.
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I heard they all took ivermectin, and that's why their hearts stopped.
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Go the opposite way, just be like – just do conspiracy theories, but that the corpus
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I heard all nine that died were unvaccinated, and that's why.
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I'm not saying that I think that he literally channeled demons, but I'm not saying he didn't
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I know the entrance, he like had to walk into his mouth, essentially.
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But that's been a thing for his for a while, though.
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I mean, you can look at Ozzy Osbourne biting heads off bats or whatever.
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I mean, this shit has been there around, but –
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But I don't remember nine people dying at Ozzy concerts, either.
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I mean, like, this is a thing that's existed in the music industry for so long.
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It's just because people died at the concert, everyone's like,
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Well, hey, now we've got Marilyn Manson leading prayer circles with Justin Bieber
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I think I remember the other two people being there.
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Marilyn Manson was, like, famous for, like, ripping up a Bible, like, on national TV.
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Didn't he have sex with some young guy on stage or something like that, too?
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If you're at a concert, would you rather watch Marilyn Manson buttfuck a guy or watch that one woman piss on that dude's face?
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If you guys – Mark, did you not see that one?
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For the novelty of it, I'm kind of down to see a dude get buttfucked in front of everybody.
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Or we could watch Brian McWilliams get hit by a plant.
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There are no words to describe the joy this brings me.
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Why does a man, like, I can't think of a man, any other man that would have a plant less than,
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yeah, any other man, sorry, that would have a plant less than Brian Williams.
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I mean, I'm sure his wife put it up, I'm guessing.
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I know, it's shocking that he's married, but it is.
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You know what's more shocking than him having a plant or having a wife?
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I don't want to know what happened to his wife after that.
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Let's just say I was in their vicinity, but I didn't know what he did anything.
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Okay, that joke's been driven to the ground, I think.
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Don't bring up drywall accidents on here, Clint.
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That's actually why Mark left L.A., though, because of Brian McWilliams hanging plants.
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Yeah, once I saw that, I was like, it's over, dude.
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Max Passport, maybe I could deal with, but Brian McWilliams hanging plants and getting married?
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I'm only, like, 80 miles from you or something.
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It's so fucking brazen that Reed is willing to record where he keeps the hookers that
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Clint, that's pretty based of my parents, though.
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You got to admit for them to be like, okay, fine.
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I mean, you don't give them a choice when you threaten them.
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Well, you're not supposed to include that detail.
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You're supposed to just be like, yeah, wow, Reed, that's real based.
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But, yeah, Reed, if you want to meet up because you're so close, you can do what we did at
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Yeah, you're going to let me sleep in the same bed with you.
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It'd be dope if we had a kid, Reed, and we named it Hover.
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And, obviously, we take your last name since you're the man in the relationship, and it's
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That's like our black names, basically, which I found out that I was on a Spaces.
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And so they asked me to bring up all the black names, which was real, which was fake.
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And so I started doing them, and I found out that HaHa Clinton Dix, which is also, which
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is a really funny, which I guess Mark knows him.
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Now, his actual name is Hayshon Tayshon Clinton Dix.
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That almost competes with what I'm going to name my first kid, which is Hustle and Bustle
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I just realized three people on this stream may have never actually seen a real basement.
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Toad might be the only other one who's actually experienced that phenomenon.
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Okay, you have to describe, because I had a buddy that did have a basement.
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This is this weird thing you got to do where it gets cold.
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You have to actually have a frost wall and a footing that's below the frost wall.
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Yeah, I don't know too much about that, to be honest, although my parents do have a basement.
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You've probably never seen a dead hooker before either, have you?
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You've probably never killed a hooker before, have you?
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I was going to say, I've seen the same one, dead and alive, moments apart.
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You've never cut up a hooker and thrown her into the river, have you?
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Do you think that, you know how Toad's like maybe and maybe is and maybe isn't a virgin?
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Do you think like the first time he has sex with a woman is going to be dead or alive?
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Well, if we're including that, he might not be a virgin.
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Yeah, I was about to say, he might have already.
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I'm just, I'm just, I'm just going to, I think I should get odds.
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I think I should get like four to one odds, but I'm going dead.
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Once they find out he's a $25 member of the Lions of Liberty pride that like he's going to be able to do.
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I know he doesn't like to bring it up a lot around the ladies, but I think it's a move you might want to consider.
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Flash that Mufasa card, you'd be shocked where you get it.
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He's like, and he won't even chip in for our stream yard.
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He's taking all of our fucking super check money and giving it to the Lions of Liberty.
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Mark, what's the analytics on Lions of Liberty for men and women?
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We have at least at least one female patron that I know of.
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I can think of two that I off the top of my head.
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There's probably more Barry there in the couple hundred patrons we have.
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If they make a gurgling sound, are they still alive?
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So, I just checked our age and gender for the last 28 days for Tower Gang.
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YouTube has it, and then, like, Anchor has, like, the Spotify.
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Last I checked, I was all the way up to, like, 0.07% female audience or something like that.
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And we have nobody over 44 years old, apparently.
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Also, Reed is the, even though Reed is the oldest looking one, and he's only, like, 20 fucking eight.
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Just the reflection from the frost wall adds extra shine.
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There's been over 100 views of my Kevin Cassidy debate in the past 28 days.
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I can't believe people are still watching that.
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Tune in for a Tower Power Hour where five podcasters look at their stats.
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I still think a great thing to do is to go through your YouTube history, just your watch
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history, and just explain what you, why and when you were watching that.
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And I think that would just be a great bit to do with any, like, any podcast.
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We should, we should do it with the, yeah, the Tower Power Hour.
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We should just have to start from as far away as long ago as possible.
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I don't want to know what I've accidentally said.
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You go to YouTube studio and then analytics and then audience.
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I'll go to our, our first, I got, there's not that many on our, the thing about the
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Wait, does the truck driver without a comb have the highest percentage of female followers?
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You give off such raw masculinity and sex appeal that they can't help but watch your show,
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Now that the stash is gone for the winner, it's going to go back to 100% male.
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And then Ashton Birdie is just killing all the women that watch Clint's show.
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Hey guys, I've got to, I get the latest lines of Liberty numbers of the last 28 days.
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Because if I recall correctly, Lions did a poll of female listeners, I believe, as far
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as who the best looking lion is and Brian McWilliams won.
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First of all, how a poll of two women isn't really very good, first of all.
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How many unique viewers did we have on Tower Gang in the past month?
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Mark has a main, so obviously he's the best lion.
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Anyone that got votes besides me, we're pure sympathy.
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My YouTube channel, my personal one, is like over 10 years old, so I bet it would have
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some great, like going through there and seeing what videos I've watched.
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Oh, I'm sure your history is just like girls jumping on trampolines and black people getting
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It's literally a tab that says history, and you can actually do it.
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They like revamped it, so you can do a bunch of different stuff with your history now and
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If we could show you, that would be a lot better, but just talking about it is not.
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We were going to talk about the Wittenhouse verdict and probably talk about Mexico or
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I mean, the kid should have been in prison forever.
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If you saw the video, he killed three innocent young men.
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Ryan on the Four Horsemen last night, he said, I love that binger guy.
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He was like, if you watch the video in reverse, then Kyle was chasing them.
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Dude, one of the best things was actually just him describing what Rosenbaum did that day
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or that night, and it was just a bunch of felonies.
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Well, the thing about that whole thing was he listed off this string of actual crimes.
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He's like, yeah, he tried to blow up a gas station.
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He tipped him for the potty over, committed all this property damage, and oh, he said the
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I was like, that's the least of what he did wrong that night.
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This is how upside down the world is, though, that, like, letting shit on fire and potentially
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Like, the big closing argument is, oh, he said the N-word, so I guess he deserved to
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And it's like, no, he deserved to die because he was going to blow up a gas station.
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I am going through my YouTube history right now because I just find it really...
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So, as far as Brittenhouse goes, I was, from the start, I never gave a shit about his political
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Like, people were saying, oh, he's a bootlicker.
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And I was like, okay, what does that have to do with whether or not this is self-defense?
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And then he said something about Black Lives Matter yesterday or something, and now everyone
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Like, to me, this wasn't about what his personal political views were.
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Why did either of those things change anything?
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Like, okay, he's like a 17-year-old kid who, I guess, is pro-cop to some extent, whatever.
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And now he's saying that he supports Black Lives Matter.
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That's the hard evidence that the conservatives, by and large, are not our allies.
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Because if you now have this retried, but he comes out of some, like, if he was an Antifa
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I think we've learned that conservatives and BLM are not really our allies.
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The Republican Party is the best way to achieve liberty.
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And I love Joe, and I agree with him that there is value in using the GOP, potentially.
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However, this constant squabble is so fucking irritating.
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To pretend as if the GOP isn't responsible for the decline of this country, like, a lot.
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A lot of the decline is just directly from the fucking GOP.
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We've got locked in our houses for fucking the last nine months of Trump's presidency.
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I told Joe Bishop that I support his movement, but not his organization.
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Well, what Tho said is, like, you expect Republicans to know that there are good libertarians
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And I was like, yeah, but isn't that your whole point with Republicans?
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That we're supposed to, like, like certain Republicans and then anyone who's not...
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He said they don't have to know the difference between us, but you do because it's to your
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Like, why are you giving them a pass but holding us to a higher standard?
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Why not hold that same standard to both sides of this fight?
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Like, I agree with him that there are more allies in the GOP as it stands today.
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That doesn't mean that they will actually bring us liberty in our lifetime.
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And it's delusional to believe that, like, well, if only libertarians would just vote
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It's like, dude, I mean, I don't have that high of an opinion of us as a voting bloc.
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I mean, is it more of like they're thinking it's a shorter term solution, right?
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Where it's like kind of trying to stave off the COVID regime, essentially.
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Well, by the way, I did vote Republican in 2018, like pretty much straight down the ballot.
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And I probably would have voted for Sununu in 2020 because it was that fucking retard.
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Mr. Toaster License from the Libertarian Party.
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He was the Libertarian candidate in New Hampshire for government.
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It's just lionizing the GOP and acting like most Republicans are looking out for us and
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I don't think that's anybody's what anybody says, though.
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I think that's a doesn't doesn't really that's kind of like hyperbolically kind of blowing
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What people like that are really saying is like if you're going to be organizing locally
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and you're trying to actually stop something that's happening right now, you're probably
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going to be able to do that much more likely in a place where you can ally with the GOP
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as opposed to you're not going to be able to do that in a blue state.
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You're not going to be able to do that in a blue city like you're not going to do that
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But in places that you can do that, it makes sense to do that.
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And I haven't seen people like it's not the only argument, though, because though is
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basically whitewashing history and making it sound as if the GOP isn't a fucking disaster.
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And the reason that we're all fucked is because we don't have a good option.
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We don't have I mean, even if you only have a duopoly, you could still you could still
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say like, yeah, it's possible that the GOP could be our salvation, but they haven't been.
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That's like that's the thing that frustrates me is if you acknowledge that you got to
00:37:17.920
acknowledge the Libertarian Party ain't going to do shit either.
00:37:20.000
I mean, it might do something better in messaging that I don't that well that I doubt
00:37:23.380
I don't doubt if the right people get involved or, you know, if the right people take over,
00:37:27.200
I guess it's the but I mean, that's never been the case before anyway.
00:37:30.160
So the most that it will be is some is a good sounding board and a good platform for the
00:37:36.560
But it's not going to do any more than the GOP or the Democrats would in the worst case
00:37:41.300
So, Mark, with the local GOP thing, that's not something I disagree with, but they'll say
00:37:46.180
And then they'll also say, like, we need to run DeSantis for president and Donald Trump
00:37:50.560
overhauled the Republican Party, made it anti-war.
00:37:53.980
Though I actually would prefer DeSantis as president of Florida.
00:37:56.140
So he doesn't want to run for president at all.
00:38:00.200
I'm just saying, like, there's a mixed message.
00:38:02.580
There's one message saying, like, yeah, screw the national GOP.
00:38:07.020
But then at the same time, they're trying to lionize the national GOP.
00:38:10.820
And that's the part where I'm like, no, that's where I mean, if you're going to do it locally,
00:38:14.920
you're going to get a new mayor or even a new governor or whatever.
00:38:18.020
Like, I think that's a different argument, but they're kind of arguing both while saying
00:38:23.660
I thought Tho was more like pro-secession, pro-decentralization stuff.
00:38:35.100
He is wearing this, you know, Rothbardian hesitant GOP guy.
00:38:40.040
And then he's also a real GOP political figure.
00:38:43.940
And I think he's, it's going to frustrate us because we know, I know how Tho really thinks.
00:38:49.800
So when I see him basically soft peddling the history of the GOP, it pisses me off.
00:38:56.120
But I understand what he's doing and I understand why he's doing it.
00:38:59.120
It's just like, don't go at Dave with that shit.
00:39:04.140
It's not like he goes in there hiding his views.
00:39:05.940
He goes in there as a Rothbardian who everyone knows works with the Mises Institute.
00:39:10.760
So it's like, it's not like he's, I would be critical as well if he was kind of like
00:39:15.680
wearing two hats in the two different walks of life.
00:39:17.960
I see what you're saying by wearing two hats, but I think in terms of, you know, if you can
00:39:21.580
bring those ideas somewhere and they're accepting you and you can also work with those people
00:39:25.460
to bring your local situation better, then, you know, I can't argue with it.
00:39:30.220
It's like, I don't have a problem with him using the GOP to push our belief system.
00:39:35.300
I don't understand the consistent clashing with Dave.
00:39:41.820
That's just Liberty pre-hype for the next debate.
00:39:45.820
So I've been in a few spaces recently where I've listened to him talk about it.
00:39:51.860
And what they believe is that they believe there needs to be a focused effort in one way.
00:39:59.060
So they're saying like, we're way too diverse in our attack that we need to focus on what
00:40:09.140
And then like Dave and that side doesn't believe it's the, I don't even, they just don't think
00:40:14.680
that one, I don't think Dave thinks there should be one forced focused effort.
00:40:19.920
No, I think he's, yeah, I think he's for like all angles of attack happening.
00:40:23.840
Like basically, I think recently on one of his shows, he specifically said that it was
00:40:28.220
kind of like a division of labor type of thing.
00:40:32.620
It's like the market taking place in the political sphere, basically, where it's, if you're good
00:40:37.660
at this thing, then you're going to be doing that thing.
00:40:40.040
Like, you know, maybe Tho is better at doing it as part of the GOP, whereas Dave is better
00:40:47.360
So it seems like the Libertarian Party is like right at that, like non-sweet spot where
00:40:54.860
So maybe we need to take over like the Communist Party or the Nazi Party or something.
00:41:06.020
Just take off your beanie and you can take over the Nazi Party real quick.
00:41:21.180
We just need a swastika tattoo and then we're all good.
00:41:28.820
This is how we achieve liberty in America right now is take over the Nazi Party, Communist
00:41:34.000
Honestly, if we took over the Green Party, that'd be pretty cool.
00:41:41.200
We could like light styrofoam on fire and shit at the bonfires with all the greenies and
00:42:02.360
If it's all about the most practical way to gain power, then the Democrat Party in Hawaii,
00:42:11.000
Do you think Tulsi Gabbard would join the Democrat Mises Caucus?
00:42:13.660
I was just going to say, why don't we do the Maui Mommy Milk or Mises Caucus?
00:42:22.720
I like it, but I always call her, yeah, the Coconut Mommy.
00:42:29.080
Am I the only one that like definitely thinks about breastfeeding on Tulsi Gabbard?
00:42:52.300
Yeah, babies always own their own place, you know?
00:43:05.380
Hey, Top, can you get off the put out of the t-shirt?
00:43:12.460
Get back to the basement and crank out some Boss Baby Toad merch real quick.
00:43:18.660
What's really hilarious is that I was born with a full head of hair.
00:43:21.600
I had a ton of hair when I was born, and I thought I was just going to have thick hair forever.
00:43:25.240
And, like, my maternal grandfather had a really good head of hair.
00:43:29.200
And then I cursed you and took your hair in exchange for membership in the Lions of Liberty Pride.
00:43:39.640
When did I – I think when I became a patron, it was right around the same time that my hair started, like, thinning, and I had to just shave it all off.
00:43:45.880
And right around when mine started getting longer and more luxurious.
00:43:51.560
It's some weird pyramid scheme where Mark Clare steals the hair life force from all the patrons.
00:43:59.140
I should have – I should have known that's what happened to Brian.
00:44:21.100
But when Brian was on, he told us a story about the person shitting in your dorm room or someone's dorm room.
00:44:29.120
So I want to get your point of view on that story.
00:44:32.780
It would be hard for me to argue any suspect other than Howie, to be honest.
00:44:41.620
I remember you guys talked about that in the drinking game episode.
00:44:49.500
That was live in person at Porkfest where we had teams of three, and each team of three was tasked with finishing a bottle of whiskey during a podcast, none of which happened.
00:45:01.000
No, no, that was the whiskey challenge at Porkfest, but you guys talked about who pooped the floor, who pooped the dorm room on the – you had a drinking game where, like, me and some of the other patrons made the drinking game rules, and we –
00:45:16.000
We intentionally made it to fuck over Brian and get him as drunk as possible.
00:45:21.560
Yeah, and Chris Spangles, the sober guy hosting it.
00:45:25.360
Was it a full handle of Jack Daniels, like the big bottle?
00:45:40.160
Yeah, we didn't seem to think it was that big a deal because in college, like, two of us would down one of those things, but we forgot that we're not 20 anymore.
00:45:47.960
And also, it also didn't happen in, like, an hour and a half.
00:45:54.460
Oh, yeah, it was probably over the course of the whole day or day.
00:45:57.420
Yeah, yeah, like, when you're in college, you're drinking all day, and you'll finish handling it.
00:46:01.380
In my memory, it's like this, but in reality, it was probably over the course of – yeah.
00:46:05.380
And probably giving shots to other people and shit, you know.
00:46:08.520
When I was 19, I would drink a fifth of rum with Coke, so just rum and Coke, by myself almost every night and play SoCom 2.
00:46:18.020
Like, I think back on that, and I'm like, it doesn't seem like that's something someone can live through.
00:46:24.600
Those are the days you could just get drunk and learn to play video games, and it didn't feel like you did anything wrong.
00:46:29.100
It's the second weekend of row here you brought up SoCom 2.
00:46:31.760
I'm sorry. I just keep thinking of my drinking days.
00:46:33.680
Like, that was the only time I really had a drinking problem, and man, did I have a drinking problem in hindsight.
00:46:39.280
Brian's still on the end of the case race for Liberty, though, which is what he was promoting when he was on this show.
00:46:43.920
And I pretty much stopped drinking after that, and that was part of the reason why –
00:46:48.640
See, it's not that Brian has a better tolerance than anybody else.
00:46:53.380
It's that he just doesn't care if he's hungover for a week, whereas some people would be like, oh, no, I will die and literally puke for four days if I keep going and then stop.
00:47:02.740
He will just say, I will die and puke for four days, and I don't fucking care.
00:47:09.560
He does have a better tolerance because he's a bigger guy.
00:47:18.620
He actually traded his hair for tolerance is what he did.
00:47:21.800
He made a deal with the devil, and the devil said, I'm going to give your hair to Marc Clair, but then you'll be able to drink a fuck ton of whiskey.
00:47:28.040
And you'll be able to drink more than him, yeah.
00:47:37.040
Well, as people saw during the case, I could never get to the point that Brian does where I'm puking for a week because I've never puked as a result of alcohol.
00:47:44.320
I just drink to a point where I completely black out, and then I pass out, and that's it.
00:48:10.120
No, from what I understand from actually hanging out with you and being with you when you got drunk is you don't remember what you do after you black out.
00:48:18.980
So I'm pretty sure you could have thrown up and totally forgotten it.
00:48:22.480
I will say, I have blacked out many times and puked many times, and somehow you always emerge to remember the puke.
00:48:30.660
No, well, because the Tom Woods thing, I had a four-month hiatus, so that was very out of the ordinary, I would say.
00:48:37.120
I can't think of another time where I don't remember anything except for when we did –
00:48:41.560
When I did the Lines of Liberty – where did I just go?
00:48:46.160
We did the Lines of Liberty drinking game for the Trump-Biden.
00:49:01.120
After the first Trump-Biden debate, that was one of the nights where I drank way too –
00:49:05.740
I pre-gamed with beer when I was in the Mufasa Lines of Liberty call, and then I was drinking whiskey all throughout the debate,
00:49:13.280
doing the Brian's debate rules, which were basically like if China is mentioned, you have to drink.
00:49:19.020
It seems like a large percentage of your life has been spent doing Lines of Liberty-related things.
00:49:25.080
I think I should be happy about it as a person who benefits from that, but it does concern me somewhat.
00:49:31.700
I think it's more time than I spend doing Lines of Liberty things.
00:49:34.800
Sad comments on my life probably, but that night I don't remember.
00:49:39.780
At some – like I remember like still like being like on a Zoom call with other people that were doing the drinking game,
00:49:52.500
With members of the book club that I'm in from the part of the problem, Inner Circle, which no longer exists.
00:50:10.940
I read 300 books when I first learned about libertarianism, and then I completely stopped.
00:50:15.360
Now I don't want to read anything about libertarianism.
00:50:17.260
I read other shit, but I don't want to read about it anymore.
00:50:30.020
You can leave off the about libertarianism part.
00:50:33.800
No, I used to be a very avid reader up until about like –
00:50:49.260
I used to read very avidly, probably up to the eighth grade, and I stopped.
00:50:54.540
What, he got kicked in the head and hit by a horse?
00:50:58.840
Liberty Thought, who I did not know at that time, came to my house and just beat the shit out of me.
00:51:08.000
But everything – and I was talking about this on a podcast with Melissa, Small Crimes, and Bloody Revolutions.
00:51:14.480
And I said, everything I've learned about libertarianism came from Instagram memes.
00:51:20.720
And like literally like they would just be like – have some meme about the cops.
00:51:25.200
And then underneath they would like – in the description they would talk about how cops suck.
00:51:29.640
And that's literally how I learned everything about libertarianism and anarchy was from those memes on Instagram.
00:51:34.720
And I never – now the egorist is your Murray Rothbard.
00:51:44.520
By the way, I'm on Slow News Day on Sunday to debate Sally Agariz.
00:51:59.280
I don't think it's going to be an actual debate.
00:52:00.760
It's going to be a conversation about how he's saying that any libertarian worth their salt should not lionize Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:52:10.220
I cannot comprehend why he's on this thing with that.
00:52:15.860
And it's also seeing like Pete get upset at him and be like, this is the most retarded take you've ever had and shit like that.
00:52:24.260
And it's like, Sal, when the Rittenhouse stuff first happened, he was on the wrong side of it.
00:52:28.740
And he was getting a lot of heat on Twitter for it, and rightfully so.
00:52:31.140
And then it's like, he just won't admit that he's wrong, I guess.
00:52:34.260
I respect the fact that he's quadrupling down, but I just think he's out of his mind about it.
00:52:47.020
I recommend always doubling, tripling, quadrupling down, even if you're wrong.
00:52:53.720
Even when you know you're wrong, you're totally wrong.
00:52:58.240
Even when one of your stances is a skateboard is not a deadly weapon.
00:53:05.280
I will not give you the satisfaction of me saying I'm wrong, okay?
00:53:14.840
Sal the Aggress went to the political school of Donald Trump.
00:53:18.280
Ooh, that's going to offend him when he said that.
00:53:24.360
Have you ever talked to him, Clint, in person or just on Twitter?
00:53:28.280
He's actually kind of enjoyable to do a podcast with.
00:53:32.580
Didn't someone say, like, you should start stealing better ideas instead of me?
00:53:45.680
Yes, on the thing, I said maybe you should branch out and start stealing better takes.
00:53:56.640
But I like poking fun at the people, especially for the memes that kind of gets around them.
00:54:03.260
I feel like the libertarians that argue that IP is bullshit just so they can steal memes are pretty whack.
00:54:16.000
I got 30,000, 40,000 followers because I steal memes all day.
00:54:36.820
Yeah, Clint, there are some people that became.
00:54:38.020
I'm still trying to figure out my YouTube history.
00:54:41.020
Clint, some people became libertarians so they could tell.
00:54:44.020
Black people, they weren't allowed in their establishment.
00:54:46.380
They're just like, oh, I can do that if I'm a libertarian?
00:54:50.980
Bro, I'm telling you there are a lot of Hoppians that give me that energy.
00:54:57.920
They give me the energy that they're like, I read Hoppa, and I found a way to sound morally
00:55:06.260
It's like, I read Hoppa, and he told me I could be an asshole, and it doesn't matter.
00:55:11.620
I question whether those people have actually read Hoppa.
00:55:23.820
If you see some of the best memes about him, you can still get there.
00:55:31.200
So, he was promoting throwing people out of helicopters, right?
00:55:41.880
So, basically, the Sal thing is just like, if you, every once in a while, he'll throw out
00:55:52.420
Or something, usually from Instagram or something like that, and then he won't say who made it
00:56:00.700
Well, there's Watermark, though, and you're showing who made it.
00:56:10.600
When he first was building up, he was pumping out memes like mad.
00:56:14.540
All memes are made on 8chan, and then we just, it's just, the only original memes are on
00:56:20.240
8chan, and then after that, it's just all just us stealing from 8chan to Reddit, to Instagram,
00:56:26.060
Honestly, I'm at the point where I assume every meme I see is just stolen from someone else.
00:56:40.080
He makes his own memes, and they're actually really good on Twitter.
00:56:44.920
You think one day there'll be, like, a Pulitzer Prize for original meme creation?
00:56:49.460
You should start giving out a Pulitzer Prize for meme creation.
00:56:53.100
The lines of Liberty Pulitzer Prize for meme creation goes to GhostBurt.
00:56:57.700
And just do it until it becomes something, like, you just pretend to do the job that you
00:57:07.000
Best stealing of memes and taking out the watermark, Sal the Agorist.
00:57:20.400
Just links to Against Intellectual Property when anyone ever calls him out.
00:57:33.020
Against Intellectual Property, tweet one of 2012.
00:57:39.600
Did y'all see Dave do a copypasta the other day?
00:57:57.020
Actually, I'll find it, because I tweeted out just a little bit ago.
00:58:00.800
I'm sure Black Mutualist made plenty of copypastas.
00:58:03.640
That's going to be another Lion's Liberty Pulitzer.
00:58:06.200
If anyone had ever read Black Mutualist tweets, he would have infinite copypastas.
00:58:11.960
This guy is pretty much every tweet he puts out is a copypasta.
00:58:17.840
I just want to read this, because it's really funny.
00:58:21.080
The objective truth is that you're nowhere near my level in this world.
00:58:24.240
I've learned my lesson destroying amateurs and debates.
00:58:28.560
Do you have any debates slash articles slash points you can refer me to?
00:58:44.440
Whenever Dave told Scott to debate him, and then Scott came back, Scott Greer came back
00:58:50.060
and said, I'd be happy to debate with you about why police are necessary, I quote-tweeted
00:58:55.500
with the copypasta of Dave, because it just perfectly just...
00:59:06.280
Black Mutualist was literally saying he debated some of the bigger names in the Liberty Movement.
00:59:14.980
And I'm like, he never even made a single argument.
00:59:18.860
He said, I've already earned the respect of Eric July and Josh Smith.
00:59:26.960
So I go over, I watch the first 45 minutes of his call-in.
00:59:33.860
He just goes like, bro, you know, like, I don't really like your energy.
00:59:42.360
He was on Break the Cycle, and I did not watch it, so I have no idea.
00:59:46.420
Josh said the words, and I respect you, Black Mutualist, because I kind of do it.
00:59:58.460
He's not talkative in person either, Unicorn Daddy.
01:00:13.900
For the rest of the night, we just followed him around, just like a little puppy.
01:00:22.480
You know, they had like those flaps that come down on the suit coat.
01:00:30.940
I didn't realize he wasn't wearing pants at first, and then it hit me, and I was like,
01:01:00.780
No offense, but an ass like that, like, give me a break.
01:01:04.760
I mean, Clint was in the other room, so, you know, I wandered temporarily, and, you know...
01:01:08.860
In fairness, I was in the corner of the room watching you get it on, so...
01:01:14.880
I'm white, so my ass can't compete with Unicorn Daddy, so...
01:01:19.980
So, Mark, what has it been like being evil Mark Clare recently?
01:01:28.160
Well, you're still the Watcher, but now you're basically the evil Watcher.
01:01:31.400
I don't know where this evil thing came from, you know?
01:01:33.620
No, no, because there is also a dark Mark Clare, but this is different.
01:01:42.320
Yeah, I think my thing now is that I'm just kind of like...
01:01:45.980
It's hard for me to believe that there are still people around, especially people in
01:01:51.100
the liberty movement, that don't really seem to understand the times we're in at all,
01:01:56.840
or if they say they do, they don't necessarily act like they do.
01:02:00.900
And so that rubs me the wrong way, not in a I'm mad at you way, in a shit, maybe I should
01:02:07.220
try to slap some of these people in the fucking face way.
01:02:09.580
Because to me, I just see it like if I was in the car, if I'm on a bus with Toad and Toad's
01:02:16.640
driving the bus and he's about to drive off into the fucking lake, I'm not trying to be
01:02:21.060
an asshole when I say, Toad, you're going to drive in the fucking lake and try to pull
01:02:25.260
I'm just trying to point out the fucking lake or the tiger or whatever analogy you want
01:02:29.200
to use for what is clearly happening around us.
01:02:33.320
And it's not going to get better by just going along and doing the normal shit.
01:02:37.280
It's not going to get better by burying your head and just going back to your job and just
01:02:40.620
hoping everything works out like this is just the latest political thing.
01:02:46.320
We're dealing with something that we've never seen anything like in our lifetimes.
01:02:49.920
And we can't just go along and do the same boring shit, whether that's the same boring
01:02:54.300
old podcast, which I used to fucking produce, too.
01:02:56.780
Not that it's calling them boring, but the podcast I did five years ago would be just retarded
01:03:01.600
Like, why would I do a three and a half hour conversation with Walter Block about what an
01:03:07.400
anarcho-capitalist society would do if we just, who gives a fuck?
01:03:12.380
And I just think that a lot of people are going along as if it's still 2019.
01:03:17.300
So if that makes me angry or evil, Mark Clarence, so fucking be angry.
01:03:32.500
I just think, like, there's, like, the, hmm, I'm like, how do we dance around all this
01:03:40.260
Tyler Yankees saying Toad is not a bussy driver.
01:03:49.180
Even just if you look at some of the shit coming out of, like, the Cato Institute, like,
01:03:52.840
they're still doing the same boring-ass podcast that they were doing in 2011, which is why
01:03:56.940
I started Lions of Liberty, because it was, like, the only podcast I could find was boring
01:04:03.000
Boring Cato academic bullshit about how, well, actually, if you really look at the cost-benefit
01:04:07.900
analysis, vaccine passports can completely be justified on a cost-benefit analysis.
01:04:11.840
Like, get your fucking cost-benefit out of my fucking body, out of my fucking house, out
01:04:17.680
Like, these people, I don't even want to be associated with people like that.
01:04:21.180
People that either don't look at, worst, best case, I would say, don't look at the right
01:04:28.280
But then people who actively go against it, like the fact that something literally came
01:04:32.420
out of the Cato Institute that said, yes, there is a libertarian justification for vaccine
01:04:37.060
I mean, that should just be physically removed, so to speak, in whatever way we can do so in
01:04:42.660
Yeah, they put out an article, and they had somebody from Cato appeared on, I don't know,
01:04:47.180
it was some national, was it, it was MSNBC, yeah, that Ilya guy, yeah, saying, yeah, the
01:04:53.860
same thing, that there is a libertarian justification for vaccine passports.
01:04:58.000
For whatever reason, I don't take as much offense to those people, because I know what
01:05:05.120
But the people that are tepid in their endorsements of, say, Rittenhouse and his self-defense, or,
01:05:11.560
you know, they're really outspoken early on about lockdowns, like, those are libertarians
01:05:15.400
that I don't trust anymore, because those are the people that, they just don't have
01:05:20.300
Like, sure, now they're probably coming around fucking 19 months deep going, yeah, these fucking
01:05:25.420
lockdowns, vaccine passports, like, this is pretty fucked up.
01:05:28.700
No, or they're like, hey, those vaccines are amazing, but I just don't agree with the
01:05:32.180
mandates, but here's my thing when I go to the concert, and, you know, whatever.
01:05:36.680
Or the Kyle Rittenhouse is like, oh, yeah, he's, you know, sure, it was self-defense,
01:05:42.440
and he shouldn't be put in prison, but, like, I mean, that, don't do that.
01:05:49.620
In Anarko, Pakistan, like, we're not going to have people there to defend your city, because
01:05:53.740
the cops have completely abdicated the role of defending anybody?
01:06:01.100
Don't you guys remember when eight-year-olds used to do security at Walmart?
01:06:05.520
I'm half-joking, but it's not that long ago that literally, like, 12-year-olds could have
01:06:08.940
the gun on the ranch and fucking defend their fucking cattle or whatever the fuck.
01:06:12.780
Now it's the 80-year-old woman with the blue hair who guards Walmart.
01:06:16.400
I thought you were talking about, like, Walmart.
01:06:18.520
They might, like, put some, like, retarded kid up there to, like, greet people.
01:06:27.440
It is pretty, it is, honestly, it just, it's the worst thing seeing the whole, yeah,
01:06:33.480
it was self-defense, but he shouldn't have been there.
01:06:35.500
Because I've seen the same exact thing when I go to any lefty that has been talking about
01:06:40.380
the, and now they wouldn't say it was self-defense, but the first thing they say in defense of
01:06:44.760
why he should be in jail was he shouldn't have been there in the first place.
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Honestly, anyone saying that is a leftist at heart in their, in their, in their true fucking
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And they might have libertarian ends and write libertarian papers, but they're a leftist
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Yeah, because it makes, because it's saying the mob.
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Has more of a right to that private property than any person defending it.
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Even people who shouldn't have been there, Anthony Huber and Joseph Rosenbaum and Rose
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Krauts, there's the ones who shouldn't have been there.
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And let's, let's not, let's not talk too much smack about retarded people working for
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We got to give, we got to give Cole a job somewhere.
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Like, fucker learned libertarianism through memes.
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I mean, what do you think he's capable of doing?
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He's going to end up as like the, the, the Dean at like the libertarian Institute for
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learning through meme dumb Academy or something.
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It was like a Twitter thing a couple of weeks ago.
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It was just like, everybody was talking about how they're going to be professors at the
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So I can be the new award, smartest tard, smartest started.
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And he just grunts as he gets dragged on the stage.
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That was the whole premise of Pete's first book.
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I promise you, you can red pill a lot more people through means than you can through
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Even if they're red pill you, it does the opposite.
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Oh, and it's so, well, I guess it could be red pulling if you actually see through the
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I promise you, you'll red pill more people through memes than you will through, even though
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the Mises Institute papers, everything they've written on there is very useful and very like
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How the agorist has done more for libertarianism than everybody else does.
01:09:05.240
My video that's probably changed the most minds is the bump fire video with M1 Garam.
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I'm like any like hour long conversation I had that didn't do anything, but just that
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like three and a half million people who've seen that, that probably did more.
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That video is pretty cool, but I don't understand why it's so cool.
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Like, can you tell me why the ping basically that's well, an M1 Garand is not a weapon.
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If I did it, cause I can do it with an AR 15 without a bump stock too, but it's because
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it's an M1 Garand that everyone's like, what the fuck?
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I've never seen an M1 Garand, never seen a snow wall or whatever.
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Oh, I've got an M1 Garand in my parents' basement against the frost wall.
01:09:56.460
Were you at Mandalay Bay that one night back in like 2018?
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Reid put the child porn on that dude's brother's computer.
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Well, he is the one in his parents' basement right now, so.
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Well, the one that would be the most likely to be the Fed would be Clint or Reid.
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They just popped up out of fucking nowhere in this Liberty community.
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Now, one's a trucker, and then one is a rich guy.
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I love the quotations because there's genuinely people out there that think I'm like a fraud.
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I don't understand where this thesis came from.
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Like, you can dox me and fucking find out if I actually did anything career-wise.
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I did tell you to, I did tell you to just one day just put out your business card.
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Just take a picture of it and just put it out there.
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The story would be that, look how pathetic this guy is creating a fake business card to prove his fake backstory.
01:11:15.740
Well, you know, Clint did drive like eight and a half hours in one day to make it to my house in Utah so he could sleep on the couch.
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He's like, if I make it there tonight, can I crash at your place?
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So he drove eight and a half hours and barely got there in time and then just collapsed on my couch.
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So the whole rich thing isn't really making sense.
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I didn't get rich by not being frugal, brother.
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You got to be frugal to invest, get that passive income rolling in, compounding interest, and bada-bing, you retire in your 30s.
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And then you housed me in the fucking South Dakota.
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That's pretty much what Dave Ramsey summarized.
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If you want the big bucks, you got to be a cheap fuck.
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My biggest expense is this shampoo and conditioner, guys.
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All this is getting me really upset because I'm supposed to hang out with Clint on New Year's.
01:12:29.700
And I told my wife the other day, I was like, we don't have to have a designated driver because he's just going to get a hotel right downtown or whatever.
01:12:40.260
No, he's going to be like, hey, man, can I crash at your house?
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Unless I'm sleeping with your wife, in which case, sure, I'll get the room.
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Cole will totally be like, hey, okay, honey, let's take one for the team.
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Clint and Cole have already fucked up before, so.
01:13:37.320
When are you going to have a Lions of Liberty, like, fest of, like, a thing where you all
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That is a great question, but Clint makes a good point.
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Why don't we just use this opportunity to promote Sal Ely to Super Spreader, which will
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be the Lions of Liberty slash Counterflow slash Liberty Lockdown slash Robbie the Fire
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And then we'll branch out and do our own from there.
01:14:03.820
We have talked about doing something somewhere for people to get drunk and talk about Liberty
01:14:10.460
So I got to say, as much as I'm pumped for the Sal Ely to think, I think we would have
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been better off with Vegas because, like, everyone wants to vacation in Vegas and are...
01:14:19.140
Yeah, but you know what you got to do in Vegas, Clint?
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Don't they have vaccine mandates or, like, they have...
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Are we not going to run into vaccine issues going to Mexico?
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If you fly directly to the U.S., you'll have to take a COVID test on the way back.
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And if you're unvaccinated, then you'll have to take it within 24 hours of coming back.
01:14:47.140
Yeah, and there's no vaccine requirements in or out of Mexico.
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As long as you're a U.S. citizen or LPR, there's no vaccine.
01:15:05.380
By the way, I just want to mention this, that Mexico only does the butt COVID tests.
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After you've been in Mexico for a while, it's already all...
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I mean, there's nothing up there anyway, so it's already all came out before.
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For a lot of libertarians, that's a tremendous selling point, that someone's going to touch their asshole.
01:15:45.460
The cellulita super spreader is what you're doing with your asshole at the airport, so...
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In 2000, we were like the center of excitement.
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You can be the center of excitement at someone else's fest, then you can have your own fest.
01:16:17.980
If we were to rent the amphitheater, whatever it is, at Porkfest, we could sell it out.
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If we did all of us, and Josh, and a handful of other people, I think we could definitely
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And then we got to crash TimCast also, somehow.
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I already have a ticket and a hotel room for Porkfest, so I am going to be gone.
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Dude, okay, someone's got to convince, because Elizabeth doesn't think that it'd be fun
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She wants to be like Toad and get a hotel room, and I'm just like, what?
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My dad and I had sleeping bags and ground mats, and that was it.
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You'll just have to have an orgy with me and Reed, so...
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I do highly recommend Porkfest for anyone and everyone.
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No, I do think that the hotel on the grounds is sold out already, though.
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I always say it's the one that's like, you walk like two minutes to.
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Or it's like across the street or whatever, yeah.
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I called to get a campground, and they never called me back, so I don't know if that means
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There's always enough room for you and me to fit in one sleeping bag somewhere.
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There's one thing I know about my relationship with you, Reed.
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We're gonna talk about Mexico any more than we have already?
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For anyone that's on the fence about Sayulita Super Spreader event, I think I have a connection
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I think I have a connection for a yacht for free.
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So you might say it's for free now, I believe it.
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Damn, you're doing it right in the middle of the holidays, man.
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Christmas starts, like, you know, you have Free Gang Christmas on this Thursday.
01:19:37.380
I thought Robbie the Fire's end-of-year show that I was going to was that weekend, but he's
01:19:48.760
Probably if you haven't go to the end-of-year thing with Robbie, if you can, it's really
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We had, like, a little pre-screening of it, and it was really good.
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I'll have to check on those dates, because I also said that Josh Smith can stay here the
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So I'm like, wait, maybe that's the Robbie the Fire weekend.
01:20:10.160
Serious question for you, because it seems like you are in the, I don't know, whatever,
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paleo-libertarian camp to some extent, just because of circumstances.
01:20:27.220
I mean, I'm just, I think, like, as the watcher, so to speak, I just try to, like, always
01:20:33.060
give what I think are other people's views in a more accurate way, and I do that every
01:20:38.800
I have been, like, critical of, I'd say, the Mises Caucus strategy a little bit, because
01:20:43.520
I think that does somewhat, to me, fall into that category of living in 2018, 2016.
01:20:50.200
But I'm not a politics guy, so I don't really have a thing on that end.
01:20:54.100
But doesn't that imply that then you support more of the Mises GOP strategy?
01:21:06.400
I hate the Mises Caucus strategy, but I love, I don't also like the Mises GOP strategy.
01:21:14.020
It's not about what I'm necessarily, like, I don't care if people do whatever political
01:21:18.680
thing they want to do, or, like, that's, that's never been my, my thing at all.
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But I do, I can say, like, I don't, the Mises Caucus strategy GOP thing, that's, that's just
01:21:31.080
That's not, that doesn't necessarily pertain to the overall idea of doing something effective.
01:21:37.500
If Mises Caucus can, and I, I've talked to Michael Ice for a long time, and, like, he's
01:21:41.520
described ways in which he's been able to work through the Mises Caucus to work with people
01:21:45.320
on a local level on, you know, coalition issues, that sort of thing, legalizing mushrooms,
01:21:52.040
But what my main thing is that I just think that there's a lot of, like, like, when we're
01:21:56.400
talking about strategy on a grand scale, and you're talking about, like, kind of just doing
01:22:03.780
the, the Libertarian Party national level thing, that I think is not effective either way.
01:22:09.140
Like, and so, to me, if we're just kind of living in that third rail thing, and, like,
01:22:16.560
I don't, I don't see how that's effective, specifically.
01:22:19.240
Whereas local stuff, GOP, Mises Caucus, Democrat, whatever, that could, that's like so, depending
01:22:24.960
on where you're from, or your area, or what makes the most sense.
01:22:27.980
I think for most people, it's going to make sense to just get out of blue areas and not
01:22:31.700
But if, like, Michael Heiss has described to me, like, he can do coalitions with people
01:22:35.380
in those places, because the Mises Caucus is specifically not affiliated with the GOP
01:22:40.180
in those areas, and that's why they're willing to work with him, then I'm all for that, too.
01:22:43.860
But anyway, there's probably a question coming, too.
01:22:46.100
Yeah, just the major question I have is, do you think that we can actually retrieve any
01:22:54.920
I think on an individual basis, on, like, yeah, like a community basis, that's possible.
01:23:03.760
Yeah, not really, but I don't think we can on, I don't think we can really do much on
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Like, I think, like, the trends of where things, and that doesn't mean don't resist,
01:23:13.940
or don't speak out, or don't try to stop it, like, at all, at all.
01:23:18.820
So I think that's one thing I've tried to, like, work on is maybe, like, focusing more
01:23:22.020
on that part of it, because maybe that gets lost sometimes when I'm just kind of going
01:23:30.100
Like, more on, my thing is more like, what's your strategy for you?
01:23:35.860
Like, what are you going to do to not have to, you know, to not have to cave into some
01:23:40.160
What are you going to do so you're not saying, oh, I'm not going to make rent next week,
01:23:43.440
because I'm, if I, or I have to take this vaccine, or something like that, or I'm not
01:23:47.720
going to make rent next week, or can't feed my family next week.
01:23:49.900
So my strategy is take care of that first, before you even think about politics, for most
01:23:59.360
So I just don't think that, like, I don't think any large-scale national strategy in that
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kind of way, regardless of what the pathway is, is really necessarily a path to liberty.
01:24:09.900
But I do think people can take action for themselves and in their own communities, which
01:24:13.520
in a lot of places will be in red states or red areas, then I think that they should
01:24:18.440
If they can do that through a Mises caucus, do that too.
01:24:21.460
Like, I just want people to not waste their time, and to be effective, and to realize,
01:24:25.060
again, the severity of the situation, that this is not 2016, this is not 2018, this is
01:24:30.260
2021, and shit's gotten really fucking real, and it's going to affect your life, no matter
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And if you don't realize that, it's going to come sooner than you think.
01:24:37.940
I would say that probably the goal of, like, the Mises caucus approach is to get more people
01:24:44.860
But I mean, that just says, I mean, sure, then do that.
01:24:48.020
But do you need, do you necessarily need that structure to do that?
01:25:00.540
Yeah, Ashton is, Ashton is spending Clint's money to tell us that, to tell us that we
01:25:06.920
are worse than her committing suicide, essentially.
01:25:22.300
They were just like, white women must be stopped.
01:25:32.940
You can tell them they don't count on our analytics because it says we have 100% of their lives.
01:25:37.900
Seeing as it's 0% female, it's 0% female watching.
01:25:41.580
That means that literally every woman in the chat is a transvestite, which is fascinating
01:25:47.240
By the way, Clint is a white supremacist confirmed.
01:25:56.080
Well, then, if people are bored, are we just going to kill this episode?
01:26:02.940
We're going to just drag it out for another hour and a half.
01:26:12.640
I was looking down at my recommended on the Tower of Gang podcast YouTube, and there was
01:26:19.700
a thing for the Libertarian Party was live at the same time we were.
01:26:31.880
I was actually going to ask, do you think, and I think the answer is pretty clear, but
01:26:36.420
do you think that our collective podcast community has woken more people up to the danger that
01:26:42.440
they're in versus the Mises Caucus or the Libertarian Party?
01:26:45.320
Because I think it's probably not this podcast.
01:27:08.880
But I think that the podcast, if you take all Libertarian podcasts, I think they have
01:27:20.440
Yeah, I'm here because of Lines of Liberty and Dave Smith, for the most part, so.
01:27:38.340
Didn't mean you to spend all your life savings and time on us, but.
01:27:42.480
Clint, Clint, someone's spending more of Clint's money here.
01:27:59.240
I know for a fact we can get some of those Jermaine Vincent type of super chats.
01:28:10.200
Jermaine or that Indian dude that kept sitting at us like whatever.
01:28:20.100
That's how you know you made it when you get your own Indian dude.
01:28:23.420
Dude, we got him and then he would send like 400 rupees, which we had no clue how much that was.
01:28:43.500
And he just, I don't think he even said anything.
01:28:45.980
And then we just made fun of him for smelling bad.
01:28:56.800
Actually, right now, I think it's just sitting in our YouTube account.
01:29:01.820
Have you even gotten your AdSense letter so you can confirm your address?
01:29:15.740
It's harder to get your money from YouTube than it is to vote in America.
01:29:19.900
We still have like $79 in YouTube from before we got demonetized.
01:29:31.120
And Ashton is still saying she's richer than Clint.
01:29:42.340
Dude, if I had gotten any plastic surgery, I'd be way better looking.
01:29:53.940
You got to get some of that Mexican plastic surgery.
01:29:55.960
Just go down to Mexico and get some whatever, just the weirdest type of medical procedures they have.
01:30:05.160
Well, that's why Robbie's going to Cellulita, because he needs the AIDS medication, so that's why he's going to home.
01:30:15.940
I didn't think she would actually get it, but she's been looking, and they're totally sold out.
01:30:20.000
Oh, I was going to say, I thought you already got one.
01:30:25.600
I guess the rich people do, I mean, get some type of better...
01:30:29.560
I mean, live on a different plane of existence than all of us four of middle-classes.
01:30:36.380
I'm going to start drinking heavily again and play Socom 2.
01:30:43.300
Those bitches came out over a year ago, and they are still impossible to get.
01:30:47.540
I still want a PS5 because my PS4 got stolen by the United States government, so...
01:30:53.060
Well, the U.S. Postal Service, actually, but...
01:30:57.760
They literally, like, I guess they stole it because I never got it.
01:31:00.820
It got shipped to me, and then I never received it.
01:31:02.780
So the United States Postal Service has my PS4 somewhere with, I think, MLB The Show 21 is sitting in it, so...
01:31:19.080
It was so boring, and everyone stopped watching.
01:31:21.840
Is it illegal to ship a firearm through the mail?
01:31:32.160
Not if you sent it to a licensed firearm dealer.
01:31:35.120
Let's just say he sent it to a licensed firearm dealer, whether or not it's true.
01:31:54.680
Yeah, so if you haven't watched it in a while, go back and watch just the beginning, like, five minutes.
01:32:01.380
Or basically, like, first two minutes of that movie opens up with basically the biggest red pill on war ever, which is basically, like, about how war is...
01:32:15.360
It's not about, like, fighting for your freedoms.
01:32:19.140
And if you're either in the money or you're not.
01:32:24.820
Hollywood just came out and literally just shat all over.
01:32:29.900
This is Dick Cheney's war and fucking crazy shit like that.
01:32:34.360
I put out one of my most black-pilled tweets a couple days ago.
01:32:36.780
And I was basically saying that the reason for the profligate spending from our government is that everyone in the government knows that the empire is dying.
01:32:44.380
And that basically the dollar is dying and everything is fucking falling apart.
01:32:48.680
Basically, when you think that the system is going to be sustainable, you can just...
01:32:54.320
You don't want to kill the cow kind of mentality.
01:32:57.880
So they're just, like, you know, ripping as much milk out of that dead carcass as they possibly can.
01:33:02.940
That is honestly how I think they are functioning.
01:33:05.860
Do you think that they actually know or did I give them too much credit?
01:33:16.140
And I think that the evil people are, you know, profiting off of it as much as they can while it still exists.
01:33:22.820
And the ignorant people are just going along with it.
01:33:26.220
It's ignorance on the street level, but it's evil at the higher level.
01:33:35.780
That's also how I describe Tower Gang, I guess.
01:33:41.360
I was trying to end with a whammy, but all I really ever had was that joke about people getting molested when I'm around.
01:33:48.880
I tried to ride that thing all the way to the ground.
01:33:55.620
Ashton is saying that Clint is her husband now, so I don't know what's going on there.
01:34:08.900
How do you think your comedy set's going to go?
01:34:13.680
It's going to go fucking stellar, as everyone has.
01:34:16.000
I've done stand-up comedy three times total, and it went stellar all three times.
01:34:19.620
Now, granted, the audience was packed with my friends, who I paid to be there and fed a lot of weed to.
01:34:24.980
But I'm going to do that again in Salluleta, so it's going to be fine.
01:34:34.080
I never tried to get paid at doing it, and I made $20 on it.
01:34:38.180
Now, granted, it was $20 at a show that Brian McWilliams put on, but still, I think I made more than he did that night.
01:34:46.140
But I will say, nothing can beat the plant hitting Brian's head.
01:34:51.160
That's literally one of the funniest things I've seen.
01:34:55.420
His reaction of kicking the door for no reason and yelling profanities.
01:35:01.300
Well, he got angry the second time when he realized he couldn't fix the plant or whatever.
01:35:06.340
To me, that's actually the funnier one, because the initial anger I can get, but then it's like he tries to put it together, like he's going to save this plant or something and then re-hang it up, and then he realized this is not going to happen.
01:35:27.520
That's the only good joke we've had all night, so I'm going to leave it right there.
01:35:34.180
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01:35:55.220
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01:36:09.080
And if you don't want to subscribe to him, he will pick you up off the side of a road and
01:36:14.100
Also, Reed, did you shout out any other type of accounts that you run?
01:36:22.620
I think everyone knows I run the Utah Mises Caucus page now.
01:36:29.120
They offered me the keys to the Florida Mises Caucus.
01:36:34.580
I still haven't been offered the Alabama Mises Caucus keys, which I think is just retarded.
01:36:38.560
I mean, I have the ear of the Massachusetts guys.
01:36:43.120
If there was any person on Earth that I would not hand over the keys to an account I don't
01:36:57.600
Speaking of that, you can follow me at TowerKingCole.
01:37:05.720
And so then my wife, after I changed it, my wife made fun of me.
01:37:09.600
So I really don't know where I'm going to rebrand to.
01:37:17.560
Lord Miles, which was on Clip's show and apparently is a riot.
01:37:31.940
And go see Clint and Mark at the Sayulita Super Spreader and get your asses swabbed or
01:37:37.780
Also, you can find more of Toad by joining the $25 level of the Lions of Liberty Pride.
01:37:43.860
Although my payment was skipped last month, so I didn't get the email to the invite to
01:37:51.620
Your payment was skipped or something went around?
01:37:56.420
Mark's going to show up to your house with a bat and just beat the shit out of you for