Tower Gang - Ep 66 - The Meth Bus w⧸ Adam Kokesh

00:00:00.000 what's up retards the funniest 9-11 jokes were written on 9-12 women jerk off dicks like

00:00:05.040 fucking they're an unruly ferret yeah you ever had a 9-11 cocktail it's in manhattan with two

00:00:12.320 kamikazes you see the socialists don't have an accurate answer for this and she needs to

00:00:19.020 account for it white women must be stopped that's right what yeah we can stay horny and

00:00:26.640 retarded longer than she could stay sane what your ass ass penis ratio maybe you could say we

00:00:33.300 had sex but we didn't fuck you said oh jesus fat dave fuck you man

00:00:40.320 welcome everybody to another episode of tower power hour as always we are joined by toad aka

00:00:49.980 tower god toad we got cole the host of two and a half takes tower king oh yeah we got reed

00:00:55.380 coverdale host i'm a guest capitalist at this point basically kind of uh clint russell host

00:01:02.140 of liberty lockdown and our very special guest tonight he is a man who ran for the presidential

00:01:08.200 nomination under the libertarian party and most recently became the cindy lou who of methamphetamine

00:01:14.200 is that because he grew up and became a huge whore

00:01:23.520 well i would say it's an honor to be on here but you guys fucking suck i mean you're not even

00:01:31.280 the loser brigade this is the loser brigade b team c team oh wow wow i refer to us as the n team so

00:01:39.520 anyways thank you for coming on adam i i do appreciate it man well i'm i'm glad that as as

00:01:50.180 unserious as the show is you're at least willing to take some you know serious issues that are important

00:01:56.940 to me seriously and all this but no i mean talking shit about you guys is more fun we could do that

00:02:01.360 for an hour if you want i'll be totally down with that i mean we were trying to get owen benjamin but

00:02:05.900 you'll suffice that is literally the plan with this episode is that we all clown on each other and then

00:02:12.060 at the end of it we shake hands and hug or we hate each other forever it's fine doesn't matter

00:02:15.720 we're gonna shake dicks probably i'll probably still hate you guys at the end of the show

00:02:19.700 so adam i got a question on twitter during one of our exchanges i can't find the exact quote but i

00:02:28.060 know it was something along the lines of you're talking about me and you said i think he's one of

00:02:33.560 them uh we can't let their dishonesty slide it's poison to the movement so i don't care about any of

00:02:39.300 the insults in there but i'm the gentile in this scenario and them is our word like we're not allowed

00:02:46.940 to say any of the other words anymore so them that's what the white gentiles get to use just

00:02:52.240 saying like that was the only thing that pissed me off yeah no no well i'm i'm half jewish and

00:02:56.900 half german so i'm genetically programmed to hate myself and i'm allowed any racial slurring

00:03:02.720 you're non-binary so you can go either way i can go i can go back and forth in identification here

00:03:10.560 but the serious point behind that for me in terms of the integrity and this is something i've

00:03:16.460 experienced this is something i've seen this is something i've i've been i've been hurt by myself

00:03:20.880 or held back by but something that i think really kind of holds back the movement is that we don't

00:03:28.440 have a higher standard of integrity of confronting people who are deliberately lying and and being

00:03:34.320 dishonest and i'm i'm guilty here too of having gone along with you know well they did this dishonest

00:03:41.220 thing but you know i i could get the exposure or i could get the money or whatever although i don't

00:03:47.500 i don't care about any of these things anymore which is you know what makes me free to come on

00:03:52.140 a show as stupid as this and i mean i told you i was gonna finger all the assholes in the party

00:03:58.780 and you said that's all the show is we show our we show our buttholes for for uh for so i mean you

00:04:04.380 like the circle jerk beforehand right the the the pre-show circle jerk was pretty fun i thought i thought it

00:04:09.900 was pretty good i mean you brought a different flavor i mean the flavor i mean it was usually

00:04:13.720 reed's same flavor of homelessness that was a little bit more weed flavored that was as therapeutic as

00:04:20.100 your last uh shroom trip i'm sure there's been a lot of people a lot of a lot of just uh i i mean

00:04:27.880 it's it's really naive to think that the movement that i love and hold dear because it is

00:04:35.580 the the the the conscience of the people going up against the powers that be the the libertarian

00:04:42.080 movement the freedom movement i like to be inclusive about it but that that to be so naive

00:04:48.500 as to think that the enemy doesn't send us infiltrators is is fucking ridiculous and if you

00:04:55.740 worry that's why we invited you on

00:04:57.420 stop buying weed buy some earpiece oh it was just a joke dude continue go ahead hold on he's fixing his

00:05:07.840 earpiece he's got a direct eye and the rest of the audience was like yeah okay more more of that right

00:05:15.820 um no there's there's been a lot of a lot of complacency and a lot of going along

00:05:22.180 with what seems like uh at very least people who are in the movement who don't have the best

00:05:31.940 interest of the cause or the movement at heart and if i gotta be the guy you know who sounds like you

00:05:38.700 guys but like in in real life or like you know with with credibility and

00:05:43.880 movement for in order to finger all the assholes you know i don't care anymore like and and and to

00:05:52.880 me that's been you know the other recent change but yeah reed if you're going right now it's a lot

00:05:58.600 of people going like well i don't care that mike heist lied about adam i don't care that they're doing

00:06:02.620 all these you know dishonest things from state to state and and i i don't particularly care about

00:06:08.240 the mises caucus except for mike heist and my experience with him but that there's so much

00:06:13.740 other and i'm taking sides in this i fucking hate star work just as much as mike heist you know like

00:06:21.640 there are people from all the different camps who i think have been dishonest have been manipulative

00:06:29.060 and have taken advantage of the party in the movement and so you know you know i gotta spray shit to

00:06:35.920 to get you know make sure all you assholes are covered then then i will and i think

00:06:39.820 you know by the way um i've been doing a lot of uh fat shaming lately and people who don't know me

00:06:46.520 like i think that that's it's the best part about you actually yeah it's amazing well the fats are a

00:06:53.760 number one seed in our cyclone showers sounds like you know and and uh clint if you remember you know

00:07:01.540 we covered the uh the al camino therapist bit you know on your show last week but it's it's like with

00:07:07.820 uh intervention for people i mean when people are fat you gotta ask why are you fat like what what is

00:07:14.060 it drives that what is the you know emotional immaturity or lack of self-control or what is driving

00:07:19.140 to mcdonald's is what drives it yeah i should probably stop doing that although that guy that almost killed

00:07:25.020 me he was pretty skinny wasn't he clint he wasn't he was actually americans are eating themselves to

00:07:31.900 death still and it's not because oh the food is available it's really tied to the emasculation of

00:07:38.420 society the psychological beating down the conditioning through modern you know government

00:07:43.180 education but you know public schools and all of that leads to that kind of complacency and and

00:07:49.680 there's a limit to what we as libertarians and as a movement can achieve by reasoning with people

00:07:58.100 because they're not rationally committed to their fucking positions statism is not fucking rational

00:08:04.400 surprise surprise so if you talk to a statist and you all know that none of you can touch me on the

00:08:11.260 experience for this just from what i published on youtube of my man on the street videos like actually

00:08:16.020 going and talking to people and and when you're arguing with someone who has an emotional attachment

00:08:22.660 to their position reason and logic will not get them to change and i think there's a lot of people

00:08:29.520 in our movement still and and i was i figured out how to be a libertarian long before i figured out how to

00:08:36.420 be an adult and that well we're still working on that one well speaking of speaking of reason and logic

00:08:42.900 let's uh we we have a whole like list of things that we we want to reason and logic about well hold

00:08:49.300 on one second if i could just say one thing real quick on the show so so adam i just got a question

00:08:55.900 for you because i don't think anyone here and most people on twitter i don't think basically i mean other

00:09:02.440 than some people that you were naming earlier like none of us were claiming that we believed any bad stories

00:09:09.780 about you because there's been like all these rumors about you but i don't think like we have

00:09:14.240 been accused of shit that we didn't do so we are familiar with being in this position so we don't

00:09:20.640 just take other people's word for stuff you did like no one i don't think anyone was really like oh

00:09:25.740 yeah adam did this a couple years ago and then he did this like you were taking it as though people

00:09:30.480 were doing a full frontal assault on your character and what you've done in the past where i think

00:09:36.060 everyone was just reacting to how you were like melting down on twitter i don't think it was about

00:09:41.920 anything that they thought you've done like i don't care like even i mean i don't care about

00:09:47.280 what you did or didn't say about larry sharp three years ago i don't give a fuck like at all

00:09:52.100 but this goes back with mike heist to kicking me out of the mises caugas when it was just a facebook

00:09:57.560 group without saying anything and then dodging it not even coming up with a good lie

00:10:02.100 and then lying about it recently in writing and us seeing that in writing and i just wanted to call

00:10:07.800 attention to that and there was a lot of other stuff that i had fun with in the meantime but also

00:10:12.640 there's a certain like scrutiny that that a lot of people have tried to hold me to and i don't know

00:10:21.160 like i i mean honestly i don't care i read like i at least i i mean i don't know about the these other

00:10:27.360 losers but at least i know you have a sense of humor enough and if i make fun of your appearance

00:10:31.260 you know i'm not gonna break your heart right well i'm kind of funny looking anyway so if i got

00:10:36.440 upset about it it would be a little adam adam i sat there for 90 minutes while you called me a

00:10:40.820 fucking idiot and i didn't lose my cool you cannot you have to give me credit for that yeah yeah clint

00:10:45.440 clint deserves credit come on me and clint you got to give it to clint too be fair that is russell on

00:10:50.900 though clint to be fair you are an idiot and people don't tell you that

00:10:55.720 that's true i guess i'm kind of used to it after all these years now we do have we have to get into

00:11:04.160 cyclone showers here because we do like to hit the showers uh with each other all the time on this

00:11:09.060 show but i did want to say about the fats that that solution will probably correct itself and

00:11:13.380 already has to some extent because covet has already wiped out a bunch of those people and

00:11:17.300 now we're about to hit food shortages so yeah it's like they're right on their way to solving

00:11:23.600 their own problems basically so these fucking liberal fat people you want to get to the bigger

00:11:30.140 existential question that's bugging me in all of this is how much uh because there are people in the

00:11:37.200 super class the predator class the the one percent of the one percent whatever the fuck you want to

00:11:41.280 call them who believe in population control right how much are they the strings on covet policy

00:11:50.260 how much are they maybe maybe they're just nudging it in that direction a little bit

00:11:54.440 maybe they're steering it and and i'm on the fence about this i don't know i i'm a fan of mike adams

00:11:59.600 health ranger and he's on the side of like oh man this is all population control they're getting

00:12:04.280 rid of old people off the dole and they're getting rid of fat and weak people and gullible people

00:12:08.920 and and in a way i'm sort of like don't really like these people what the hell yeah i was like

00:12:14.680 what are they what are they hoppians like this is this sounds pretty awesome like the only reason

00:12:19.820 i don't buy that thesis the only reason i don't buy that thesis is because there's no way they want

00:12:24.220 the fit like in shape savages to survive like they want the fuck because if that's the case how are

00:12:30.540 they going to actually defeat us are you calling us savages yeah if you're a fit yeah not fat not

00:12:38.840 complacent i guess we are i mean compared to them we're savages i mean it's basically i mean well

00:12:43.760 they're basically all nazis because i mean hitler wanted the best of the best out of his population

00:12:48.440 he got rid of the you know the vermin and the uh the nastiness and the

00:12:51.980 well the real problem that he was vegetarian and he obviously didn't have enough animal proteins in

00:12:59.460 his diet and that's what made him go psycho i honestly i thought i was thinking that when when i when

00:13:04.620 i saw you trying to genocide the misus caucus i was like has he gone the hitler path on us like

00:13:09.980 you need to up that protein intake brother no so i oh by the way no so i've been i've been vegan for

00:13:16.860 four years and i've been uh working my way up to being strict about it i mean i went from like

00:13:22.860 you know 95 percent to to where i'm at now where i'm like 99 and a half percent vegan like

00:13:29.500 and for me i'm not vegan yeah yeah well 100 or nothing i mean maybe maybe you guys want to be

00:13:36.960 anal about stuff but like we love being anal yeah that's one of our favorite things to be

00:13:42.040 i've been doing vegan one meal a day for the last uh six months except for when i was in jail for for 12

00:13:52.780 days in colorado and i made him feed me vegan but you know i'm 40 years old and i'm in the best

00:13:59.240 shape of my life and definitely the best looking shape i mean except for the hair but the propecia's

00:14:04.340 got that it's it's almost it's almost back to where it was um physically physically you're doing great

00:14:11.020 but like is it correlation or causation that the mental decline came with it

00:14:14.920 mentally i i'm i feel the best that i ever have i meditate most days twice a day

00:14:24.800 um i i still think he just like takes all his angst out on twitter he's like that's his release

00:14:31.240 it's just all through twitter and then that's why he's so calm yeah we all life you meet him

00:14:35.440 like if we were at his house right now he'd be so chill and everything it's just like twitter is

00:14:39.260 just like that's how he gets i don't know man i thought he liked to take out his angst by uh

00:14:44.700 fucking his wife to house of the rising sun in the morning that's true image by the way but no reed

00:14:51.720 if you were here in person yes i would be i'd be like you know passing you the bong but you are so

00:14:56.420 funny looking i'd still be clowning on you i know i understand dude we gotta get these showers dude i'm

00:15:02.500 ready i'm ready i'm ready let's do it dude put it up there i'm putting it up i am really looking

00:15:08.620 forward to adam's take on the fats well we can we're not getting to the fats this week unfortunately

00:15:12.960 well we can we can talk about them if you want we are we finishing the bracket on the we're doing

00:15:17.700 the right hand the right hand side to that so basically if we don't if you don't know this is

00:15:21.740 our uh this is our stolen bit by um legion of skanks this is they stole from us they stole from us

00:15:28.220 this is april's icon showers and what we did is two weeks ago we got together and we thought of the

00:15:33.280 worst people in the world that we can think of and the winner gets genocided off the face of the

00:15:39.820 earth so i mean and as you can see we we it's a i mean this is the top i mean this is the tippy top

00:15:46.280 the elite of the elite well except we can put pedophiles in here though because they would just

00:15:50.080 run away with it so yeah well i mean for youtube's sake we mean genocided off the face of the earth

00:15:54.500 metaphorically yeah yeah in minecraft in minecraft not in mine comp don't get those mixed up but some

00:16:04.120 of these i mean we i mean we got fats number one they moved on past ethos last week we had uh jews

00:16:09.260 beat out the ukrainians uh i just want to say with the jews and ukrainians if you think about it that

00:16:14.060 was the right choice because think about who the problematic ukrainians are right now just saying so

00:16:18.800 yeah there's a nazi well yeah well that's why that's why that matchup existed it was because it was

00:16:23.580 the nazis against the jews yeah again uh then we had the train into the hoppians trannies moved on

00:16:29.000 i think slimly on that one i think the hoppians we put up a good fight this is another one that's

00:16:34.160 great because hoppians wouldn't exist without trannies in my opinion like they're mostly

00:16:38.520 reactionary to like the existence of trannies without trannies hoppies i love that so he eliminates

00:16:46.600 both of them really hoppa hoppa would like kill blair white on sight is basically what you're saying

00:16:51.280 this is long hoppians have made it into the next round here i i've met hoppa i i love him i love

00:16:59.940 his work but there's something about the helicopter rides and the being a bordertarian and by the way

00:17:05.620 i'm going to take this opportunity if you guys don't mind me interrupting the answer to the borders

00:17:10.240 bullshit for libertarians is really fucking simple it's not open borders or closed borders it's private

00:17:15.620 property borders or government borders and government borders aren't fucking legitimate problem solved

00:17:20.200 but like collectivist we have to control the area and give people helicopter rides i think there's

00:17:28.100 a reason a certain stripe of insecure young man is attracted to that philosophy yeah and honestly

00:17:36.260 it would probably be better if we put internet hoppians on here because and it's not all hoppians

00:17:40.740 because we but it's funny just call them all we're going to actually talk about them in the next

00:17:44.380 bracket it's white women versus incels so yeah we'll get back to the hobby and then we had the uh

00:17:50.480 the bitch fuck cucks which is uh reed coverdale's uh famous that's about a year old now yeah it is

00:17:56.880 and then uh and then the escalator standards which is also reed coverdale's and and i me and me and

00:18:03.040 ryan bernstein put up a good fight the escalator standards should move on because i we were saying

00:18:08.260 that it it encompasses more than just the people that stand the escalators it becomes the people that

00:18:13.040 go slow in the in the left lane the people that like don't open the door for you i mean there's

00:18:19.020 all these fucking pieces of shit but bitch fuck cucks move on because we're all libertarians over

00:18:23.740 here that hate people with no etiquette the bitch fuck cucks are just people with no etiquette they're

00:18:27.880 just way worse on top of that so yeah that's probably most john hudek walks on an escalator like

00:18:33.800 exactly you're removing a bunch see you guys did very well without me last week like if if you

00:18:40.180 and the week before and the week before and do you think that if john waldenberger was in front

00:18:47.160 of you on an escalator you'd be able to get by him like come on i wouldn't want to get past him i'd

00:18:52.200 be titty fucking him the whole way up go ahead adam do you have a category for men who shave on the

00:18:57.320 daily wow on the daily well at least i get past that because i'm just lazy no no cool we know you do

00:19:03.840 it bi-weekly it's fine uh yeah yeah that that's uh the incels damn it i'm about to have a child

00:19:10.640 no i know so let's let's get to the skip because this is our our our the right side of the bracket

00:19:16.600 but what we're trying to do is uh four we're trying to do four matchups or four i guess matchups a

00:19:21.820 week uh and then ending it with the top lobster party at uh the run your mouth um tower power

00:19:28.740 crossover you should come to adam that would be wild it would be amazing uh uh and we're gonna

00:19:35.360 try to do four a week and then the the championship is there yeah what's that what exactly what what

00:19:42.320 city and and what date may 7th in florida and wherever the fuck uh it's lake something what is

00:19:49.160 it i don't even know somewhere an hour outside of orlando somewhere oh by the way i'm gonna get i'm

00:19:56.080 gonna get this super chat from justico real quick here five bucks thanks man adam you puff in that

00:20:00.560 gas for 20 yeah and also happy birthday to dave smith and adolf hitler by the way is it actually

00:20:11.300 dave's birthday yes yeah it is 100 day's birthday none of us believe when it's someone's birthday

00:20:16.480 anymore thank you drew hancock it's tom wood's birthday as well today well my ex's birthday was

00:20:21.000 and it's his wife's 16th happy birthday sweet 16th baby all right white woman versus incels let's go

00:20:30.520 yeah let's get into it so this is this is the uh number one number versus number eight which i think

00:20:34.580 this is a strong number eight incels are fucking annoying online and they just it's it's the the

00:20:41.340 ones that that the cherished being an incel but white woman almost is it has is i've heard from a lot

00:20:48.480 of people that have told me that is talking about the cyclone showers that they think white women if

00:20:53.020 white women get out that this whole thing is rigged that white women should win this over the fats

00:20:57.920 over the jews over all of them white women and i kind of i'm gonna say the incels have to go because

00:21:04.020 if you get rid of white women you create more incels no that's not true you still have black women

00:21:11.960 brown women sure but they're all the women that actually put out so like so wait clint you're

00:21:17.340 saying you actually get rid of incels if you get rid of white women because they're not going to just

00:21:20.760 be that's right no no you're still you're still limiting their pool but i don't know i don't know

00:21:26.440 because i like i genuinely i have so little respect for dudes that can't get laid like this is why i we

00:21:32.520 like i don't really like having toad on the channel hey man my biggest fan is in the chat right now

00:21:38.120 that picture is great

00:21:43.660 so address one of the accusations i faced recently that i fucked all the hot women in the freedom

00:21:51.780 movement that is absolutely not true there are a few new ones who i haven't gotten to yet but

00:21:58.100 yeah that's clint clint is the one you really want to deny that what i love i love how he's like

00:22:04.820 he's like i want to i want to deal with this accusation that i brought up on clint's show just

00:22:09.180 last week like you brought it up i didn't bring it up now here's the thing about incels though is

00:22:15.120 that won't they kind of just wipe themselves out by the fact that they can't get laid so they will

00:22:19.320 not reproduce well no see you i mean well i guess trannies can still reproduce that's disturbing but

00:22:24.760 it's true i guess that's kind of becoming common now actually so well the trannies the thing is

00:22:30.980 that 40 of them just off themselves so that was uh that was the thing there that's that was there's

00:22:36.020 someone in the chat that just said white women are to be cherished i don't know what the fuck

00:22:40.220 this guy is that person i don't know yeah you're banned dude like i don't know what you're talking

00:22:44.020 about malarkey mute that fuck malarkey mark hey he's all he's doing is what's the general goal here

00:22:51.760 to get rid of a certain group of people or like overall removal of as many people as possible

00:22:56.980 no the person who deserves to die most goes on i think i was gonna say if incels survive then

00:23:03.580 they're gonna be the only one left and then they'll die off too so that's like the most

00:23:07.660 genocide possible but yeah if that's not the goal well that's what that's another argument for

00:23:12.100 advancing white women i believe and i will say that white women the reason why they are such a

00:23:15.840 high seed here and such uh i i mean talked about on our show constantly uh because it's because

00:23:22.040 they are a scourge on society they are the women that make it through academia they're like the

00:23:27.040 rootless cosmopolitans they become hr people these are like the karens the mini totalitarians

00:23:34.260 they're basically the reason why this covid shit got even nearly as bad but but toad it was a white

00:23:41.320 woman who made it end on the airplanes but but if it was the if it if it weren't for the incels

00:23:47.660 that aren't fucking putting these bitches in check then they would have never had anything to say

00:23:51.360 so like it's kind of their fault that the white women are so out of control because these dudes

00:23:55.420 aren't fucking laying down pipe properly that's the category it's white women versus incels and it's

00:24:03.580 going to be so i mean who deserves more chamber to be removed who do you hate more basically

00:24:09.920 if you're if you don't have government employees somewhere in your bracket and that would be

00:24:15.760 women for sure we have cops we have cops cops nice disabled well a lot of white women become uh

00:24:27.340 government employees so your contractors who are doing compliance for major corporations too somehow

00:24:34.660 white women usually all right well if we if we get rid of white women there's no more jen

00:24:40.200 pisaki there's no more hillary clinton um who else like my wife and we're just we're and we're just

00:24:46.740 finishing what timothy mcveigh started really so it's i mean the thing is you get rid of incels

00:24:55.380 and but the thing is they just they'll continue to populate they'll just keep coming back you get

00:25:00.780 really wait they continue to populate is actually right no no say because it's just it is a net it's

00:25:06.280 not natural but these there's always going to be using all the wrong words cole there is there is

00:25:12.300 guys that will always not be able to get laid right they're always going to be right but that's

00:25:16.920 because of the white women no but and if you get rid of white women there will never be any more

00:25:22.420 white women because the dudes will have to fuck some other like race at some point like they'll have

00:25:28.200 to fucking and then you have a yeah but what if a dude like fucks uh like a hispanic chick or

00:25:33.660 something like somebody who's like close to white he fucks her and then and then their kid gets

00:25:39.720 fucked by another white dude over and over again until you basically create whites again it's jewish

00:25:45.640 white it's who white jewish white i mean yeah no it would have to be and then that's the thing is

00:25:54.760 like we have jews on the other side so we could legit yeah that yeah what kind because jews is

00:26:00.220 like you know can mean you know different things it'd be like you know religious or ethnic cultural

00:26:05.780 kind of yeah or cultural right but for for white for whiteness purposes like i want to know if i'm

00:26:13.480 all white or half white is jewish white we'll give it to you we'll give it to you i think of jews as

00:26:20.380 being white i i know that it's probably i probably shouldn't because like they're more else would

00:26:24.600 they be one one interesting thing that i will point out though is if we eliminate white women

00:26:29.080 we're eliminating all of our mothers and therefore ourselves so no no no this is proactive it's not

00:26:35.480 i want to i want to i want to go back to a point toad made earlier and uh chastise him for not

00:26:42.260 applying the one drop rule uh you cannot create more white women by sleeping with hispanic women you

00:26:47.560 absolute lunatic no i said over and over again until you get somebody who's like 99.9 percent

00:26:55.500 yeah they're like as white as adam kokesh is vegan you know like almost all the way

00:27:01.340 you get what i'm saying it takes generations to do this but eventually you have almost uh pure whites

00:27:10.000 again toad we don't have generations we are genociding one of these people at the end of the at the end of

00:27:14.780 the month still white women yeah it is the only is the only thing for incels really just because

00:27:21.520 they're annoying and no no actually actually i have a better reason to hate incels um i think that

00:27:27.020 they're kind of like the fundamental problem with society and it's not really their fault so let me

00:27:32.780 start there but let me also say that if it if it if these guys were like actually being productive

00:27:38.600 members of society they were getting laid and having families and doing the whole like christian

00:27:42.260 conservative thing uh which it's weird because a lot of them like gravitate towards that uh i think

00:27:47.380 society would be in a lot better place so like i i have an added layer of anger towards incels that's

00:27:53.300 probably unfair given that like it's just like this social dynamic that has created them in the first

00:27:59.500 place but at the same time like they should work on themselves man well i i want to i want to make a

00:28:04.800 case for incels here actually like in their defense and support and i want to encourage people being

00:28:10.700 incels because it just means more pussy for me i that's actually that's actually a good that's a

00:28:17.900 good thing to for saying get rid of white women more because incels as long as there's more incels

00:28:22.140 like you said there's more pussy for me all right no you're right then we the incels are are going

00:28:25.780 to survive yeah yeah it might be yeah also i think that's it since clint pointed out that you're not

00:28:32.380 white if you're 99.9 percent white you're still whatever else there's still going to be a lot of women

00:28:37.400 who are close enough to looking like they're white right clint isn't that no no not good enough

00:28:42.220 i need purely arian women thank you purely really gone no no we're not with incels the other thing

00:28:51.060 the only other thing i could think of for their moving on is that aren't most incels also the

00:28:57.780 internet simps would you say that those all of those guys usually yeah there's a lot of overlap though

00:29:03.120 the ones in the ones in the replies that are just like they're like the entire reason that only

00:29:09.000 fans is a phenomenon well hold on guys i i need to know though i still need to know if if jewish

00:29:15.360 women like jew qualifies as white because i'm looking for a bunch of jewish women to have a bunch

00:29:21.320 of really smart hook nose babies to repopulate them well i'm gonna say jews are white no but here's

00:29:28.680 the thing i'm gonna say for the for the tournament because we have jews on the other side i think

00:29:35.200 jewish women have to be removed from the white women uh category i think that because we would have

00:29:42.680 a may have a situation that's it may cole just said jews have to be removed that's gonna be

00:29:47.760 ryan dawson thinks jews are white so i think that's a pretty good qualifier

00:29:54.600 i mean adam kokash and dave smith are both jews and they're clearly white so right

00:29:59.300 i think we're getting too technical with the overlapping categories here on this uh on this

00:30:06.280 bracket here but if we get rid of white women then i guess yes we're getting rid of jewish women

00:30:10.940 jewish men are up against this is so great rogue says so either belle delphine disappears or her

00:30:17.580 whole fan base disappears we can't get rid of the bell what we're gonna get rid of the bath water

00:30:25.040 no we're not getting rid of her she stays well no white women would be the ones because that's

00:30:31.700 we're moving on so i'm moving on and if we want to take it to a vote incels advance oh it's okay i'm

00:30:38.700 going i'm going white women advance yeah i have to do it i'm going white women white women as well

00:30:44.440 i'll go with adam i'll say incels advance well it's still three two white women moving on

00:30:50.720 incels are safe they stay i think they would have stayed anyway i don't think you can get really get

00:30:56.560 rid of them they're like rats and i just i just want to say it's been an honor to be a guest on the

00:31:03.220 very last episode of this all right hey you need to grab those toad you need to grab the two super

00:31:12.120 chats that we have uh one from john patrick and then one from jeremy rhymes sean patrick

00:31:17.240 tower power our episode of pork fest uh yes i hope so so uh i think we have talked to dennis a little

00:31:23.580 bit about that we got some got some breaking news on that front i will be uh a speaker at uh at

00:31:29.800 pork fest so yes i think that it's highly probable we will have a tower gang festival unfortunately i won't

00:31:36.220 be there i've been talking with dennis too and i'll be speaking we're working on maybe getting tower

00:31:41.100 gang in the pavilion actually so whoa let's go all right oh and then we got 10 bucks says incels are

00:31:50.380 a product of barely owning anything of consequence for the average taxpayer the large massive young

00:31:54.580 boys are products of a lifetime of impotence compared to what men once were i don't yeah i mean i agree

00:31:59.980 with that but i don't disagree what's your what's your vote though yeah you want to get rid of them

00:32:04.880 then like or i guess i guess it's a thing of we can get rid of white women and therefore that might

00:32:10.440 solve our government problem and therefore we can knock out two birds one stone kind of thing

00:32:15.180 get rid of incels because now they're going to be much better off since the government i say we

00:32:19.080 threaten white women uh with genocide until they sleep with the incels now well the nail in the coffin

00:32:26.460 though for uh for the incels is that i want to keep them around because i look way more manly in

00:32:31.160 comparison if if they're around so you're you are the manliest of the incels toad

00:32:36.380 you are on the mount rush man i slept with toad at tom woods 2000 though so is this technically an

00:32:48.140 incel or uh gay sex doesn't count you're almost there toad all right next category we have non-english

00:32:55.860 speakers uh speak of the english versus the disabled this could be any disabled but we're

00:33:03.540 mostly talking about the adam kokesh type mental uh well then we're getting rid of all of us like

00:33:11.060 that that was going to be one of my main arguments for not getting rid of the disabled

00:33:14.620 we're getting rid of libertarians i'm fine i'm fine with doing that if it means that we get rid of the

00:33:21.640 rest of them too as someone who's not retarded if you guys and you know the the led the retards off

00:33:29.520 the cliff so to speak we the rest of us would really appreciate it now i think the the disabled

00:33:36.120 thing is i think the the argument for them moving on to getting to getting removed from the face of

00:33:40.660 the earth is and this is more of a selfish thing and a more of a libertarian thing but i don't know if

00:33:45.860 you always hear the arguments they're like well what about okay if government doesn't exist and people

00:33:50.920 don't have universal health care what about like the the people that can't take care of themselves

00:33:55.400 and the disabled and all that and like that's why we like no if we get rid of them i never have to

00:34:00.200 hear that argument again i never have to hear about like these fucking people that like we need the

00:34:04.940 government to take care of them because no one else will well let's just get rid of them and then

00:34:08.160 we don't worry about them anymore you can feed a retard for a lifetime or you can feed a retard to a

00:34:12.760 wood chipper so if it's get if it's genociding non-english speakers all the people who currently

00:34:18.560 don't speak english get genocided they don't magically start speaking english right so this

00:34:24.560 solves the problem of you know the border dispute with libertarians like we just get rid of the

00:34:30.440 non-english speakers and then we don't need to argue about the hoppian or the open no no the hoppians

00:34:35.420 will still hate them even if they speak well no no that's my point clint they won't speak english

00:34:40.180 they're getting genocided so oh issue anymore so they're gone i was gonna say the cole's point

00:34:46.560 just it also applies to non-english speakers because those are those a lot of those people

00:34:51.480 are immigrants that come in and they're on the government toll too so but then also the only

00:34:55.320 immigrants we have are coming from fucking britain and that's gonna suck or canada okay

00:35:00.800 also that's awful many of the people who are disabled uh it's not their fault wait so is this

00:35:06.680 just is this you cannot speak english or it's not your first no then no they literally can't no

00:35:12.340 like english it's not even close hold on the implication of toad's statement there is yeah to

00:35:18.720 the non-english speakers if you do that you have to allow hot women from foreign countries like a

00:35:23.640 month to learn and come over right i would hope it seems fair i i love i love toad's implication there

00:35:29.180 though that that some people are disabled of their own volition like it was like he was basically saying

00:35:35.820 not all disabled people uh it's their fault it's like no toad none of them is it their fault that's

00:35:41.320 not true what if what if you're a fucking moron you like jump off of the roof of a house or

00:35:45.540 something and cripple yourself you had problems before that what if you willingly just like went

00:35:50.320 on a month-long meltdown on twitter for no reason i got another month to go to the national convention

00:35:58.960 stay tuned mother oh no trust me i'm staying tuned brother i'm i'm i don't think you realize how

00:36:04.960 many times we send your tweets and we're like we can't like this because we have to pretend that we

00:36:09.060 don't like him but holy shit that's hilarious i like i like anything he says it's crazy it's great

00:36:16.940 a couple more arguments for keeping the disabled around the one would be that uh if the disabled

00:36:22.120 still exists then you can claim retardation enter the special olympics and destroy all those

00:36:27.460 motherfuckers basically basically the training like the training argument but just i mean you're just

00:36:32.620 doing it but you're retarded is that i love toad's overconfidence that he could actually beat a

00:36:37.000 bunch a bunch of special olympians like i bet you'd get smoked episode about this

00:36:43.300 where eric cartman plays dumb to go compete in special olympics that's where he got the idea

00:36:50.880 fucking it was in my subconscious actually i did forget about that south park episode until i tweeted

00:36:58.380 that by the way it's the non-english speakers that's a pretty easy argument there i mean that's

00:37:03.840 just annoying in public when you i mean they may speak english but most of the time i mean you're

00:37:08.600 i mean you're in you're in walmart or something or um adam you're at you know your local fucking

00:37:14.100 whole foods or something i don't know where the fucking shop uh the seed store the the the weed

00:37:19.060 dispensary and and then some fucking the farmer's market locally we're about to start growing

00:37:28.220 almost all of our own food there you go okay whatever and then but imagine like you then you

00:37:33.660 have some fucking mexican over there just you know just yapping away looking at you give me the side

00:37:38.900 eye just speaking in tongues and then i mean that's just the most annoying or can we like if someone

00:37:45.260 just speaks in tongues can they be on this list because i'm totally going with non-english speakers

00:37:50.300 oh man all right jesus well i know you didn't grow up with this but i wait toad and cole did you do

00:37:57.460 the whole speaking in tongues thing did you ever witness that i never witnessed it in person i've

00:38:02.140 never seen it in person but don't you have a sibling that does that yeah me oh well

00:38:07.160 all the all the women tell me i speak in tongues so no they don't

00:38:14.700 i'm gonna put i'm gonna put disabled on to the next round um just simply because like

00:38:25.660 yeah i think that they should all die you know that's probably like the best reason honestly i might

00:38:33.400 be with you clint but i think god wanted them to die and then we kept them alive we as humans

00:38:40.520 shook so we're doing god's work yeah yeah we shook our fist against god and said no we're gonna keep

00:38:46.400 these people that were you know not supposed to live and not supposed to keep like if we're talking

00:38:51.480 about i mean if we're true evolutionary um beings we should get rid of the those i mean in non-english

00:38:59.640 speakers the only other thing is i mean also the fucking all the different languages at every like atm

00:39:04.920 or like a slight sidetrack here but i just want to point out my brother

00:39:10.400 texted me a few weeks ago i sent him a picture of remember that picture of the

00:39:14.580 trans men and they all had periods and it's like people have periods or whatever

00:39:19.120 yeah i sent him that picture and he was like holy shit this proves that god doesn't exist because

00:39:24.880 he would he's wiped the world out for far less

00:39:27.640 you know transgressions than this but then i started thinking about it and anyone who knows

00:39:34.440 their biblical history is uh god promised to never flood the world again with a rainbow

00:39:40.260 and i was like god that's so ironic he used a rainbow to promise he would never flood the world

00:39:46.160 again and now we're like thumbing it off in his face like oh yeah well people have periods i just

00:39:51.220 realized that and they're flying a rainbow flag that's what i'm saying

00:39:55.340 what's up whoa turn your volume down just in time to get rid of his own kind the uh the non-english

00:40:02.040 speakers oh yeah we should let top we should let top was a very top was actually i remember in the

00:40:07.620 whenever we were putting together the list this was one of the ones that top was like yeah

00:40:11.480 fuck him get rid of well he doesn't he doesn't call him he speaks english so what's up so faggots

00:40:17.100 and adam i know i'm just saying going on the mexicans in general now non-english speakers i was going

00:40:22.900 to say that for an argument for getting rid of them is that they want a lot of them want to impose

00:40:29.240 their culture onto you in some cases you have a lot of them are some of these are like some of those

00:40:35.260 middle eastern refugees who are coming into europe and raping women although maybe maybe clint would

00:40:40.840 uh like them more for that i'm not sure the only reason i was so adamant about the non-english

00:40:45.800 speakers was because of martha bueno and so like if we could just if we could just fucking nip that

00:40:52.440 in the butt right there can move on from from this this bracket

00:40:56.200 she speaks english now yeah she speaks english now yeah

00:41:00.200 she just sounds like complaining like my wife yeah is she is i is she a bitch fuck cuck though is

00:41:10.400 she uh does she does she because she might be if we if non-english if she's not in non-english

00:41:15.480 she's definitely not a white woman and she's not any she's not fat she's not jewish yeah she might be

00:41:20.840 jewish well by the by the way if we get rid of the non-english speakers we're also like wiping out

00:41:26.420 a lot of the uh the third world uh society yeah fuck them we get to end the wars there's no more

00:41:36.440 wars because we fucking wipe everyone out exactly if we get rid of it there's no more yemeni genocide

00:41:43.760 because there's also there's also no more ukrainian immigrant women which are fucking stunning so

00:41:50.240 you know be careful i'm sure yeah all right top anything on the disabled

00:41:57.220 on the disay yeah i'd i love crib daddy but uh yeah he's gonna be on

00:42:04.640 he's gonna be on next week he's on the show next week which is why jose wants us to

00:42:10.240 move disabled ahead just because of that but i don't think that's a good enough argument

00:42:14.260 so oh well but you know what though yeah so if we did move disabled into the next bracket then we

00:42:21.680 would have white women and disabled and we can't have we can't have adam and you know in both brackets

00:42:26.880 for next week so how you doing brother man it's nice it's nice to talk to you i i missed the first

00:42:34.240 half of the show i was putting my kids asleep because i'm not an incel what's going on you

00:42:38.980 you guys are children

00:42:40.140 adam adam say what that's really that's really the best jab you got out of the box you've been sitting

00:42:49.340 on that for a week no man i honestly i'll tell you the truth you've been sitting on he's a huge fan of

00:42:56.880 the women disrespecting that is fucking damn adam i mean for real i could everybody should take a

00:43:03.340 playbook out of you know out of your whatever the fuck no honestly i didn't put i didn't put much

00:43:09.600 thought into this because i don't really give a fuck i'm here for the zyklon showers bro so let's

00:43:14.500 let's keep this moving okay well let's let's hold the vote and uh adam adam you go first non-english

00:43:20.600 speakers are disabled who who gets genocided uh anybody who can't learn english i speak uh pretend

00:43:26.720 to speak at least five languages and uh by far so uh non-english speakers but i with the caveat

00:43:36.420 hot women get a month to learn before the before the shower all right that's that's fair that takes

00:43:41.840 the ukrainian debacle out of there so but i mean in fairness hot women are the disabled so they should

00:43:46.420 move on anyway i'm gonna go i'm gonna move disabled on i think that they are most worthy of dying

00:43:54.880 i i'm i'm agree with you uh and also i'm also looking forward to just crypt daddy talking about the

00:44:01.580 disabled and i think it's just going to be hilarious so there's there's multiple things going

00:44:05.140 to disable but i do think they deserve it more than the non-english let's let's pray that that god

00:44:09.320 doesn't smite uh that'd be tragic i'm going non-english speakers for the reasons that i

00:44:16.580 stated i think they're more of an imposition and reed made an extremely good argument where if

00:44:21.580 if we just do it ourselves then the genocide is over already so yeah what does that mean if we

00:44:27.580 genocide everyone then we don't have to genocide anyone that's yeah no so yeah non-english speakers

00:44:32.680 because it solves the border dispute with the libertarians because it wipes most of them out

00:44:38.220 and then we don't have to we don't have to advocate ending the wars because who are we

00:44:42.760 going to fucking bomb they're all going to be gone like right we'll have a civil war within 12 months

00:44:47.580 if we end all foreigners you know that we still got england and we still got you know canada we

00:44:55.540 don't need a civil war they're rapists they're criminals they're bringing crime yeah so i'm moving

00:45:01.740 non-english speakers they're not bringing this topic comes down to you and i think i have a tiebreaker

00:45:06.960 if you choose disabled so go ahead yeah i was i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna choose disabled just

00:45:14.560 for the fact that i think it would be hilarious to genocide them like the non-english speakers it

00:45:19.520 would just seem kind of mean but disabled imagine imagine like rolling them onto like a makeshift

00:45:24.300 catapult and just launching them with their wheelchairs into a fucking pile of just yes so

00:45:30.240 disabled for that i'm trying to escape but they're just retarded so they're hiding

00:45:35.740 well it depends on how we're getting rid of them because if you want to hang them that's gonna be

00:45:44.980 really hard because they can't like stand at the gallows and then have the trap door come out you

00:45:49.360 know like you're tearing them up it's just there's no way this episode doesn't get

00:45:53.220 all right so yeah they would all they would all run to like a ranch in arizona so they'd be really

00:46:00.300 easy to find uh so this it is it is tied right now so what i think jose jose gets the deciding vote

00:46:10.960 and disabled moves on so so jose did say disabled i was thinking yeah he wrote that in and i think

00:46:16.180 we throw the fans the entire chat y'all choose it and then we'll wait back around democracy here i

00:46:22.480 don't think so yeah well how can we count these accurately though i mean just it doesn't really

00:46:27.400 it's not about it this is an oligarchy i don't give a fuck what those things all right then jose's

00:46:33.300 counts disabled moves on thank you oh yeah we have to for fucking crap anyways jesus christ

00:46:38.740 gonna bankrupt the show all right and now we have the dave smith category this is this is a

00:46:46.340 fucking drum roller right here the homeless i'm gonna i'm gonna surprise a lot of people with this

00:46:51.780 take but i'm everyone thinks i'm gonna go with cops but honestly if we get rid of home i'm all about

00:46:57.460 like root causes here as you've seen so if we get rid of the homeless then the cops aren't gonna have

00:47:03.080 to do as much and it's easier to therefore get rid of them sooner as well well no i

00:47:08.720 actually i'll say the opposite of that i'll counterpoint you reed if we get rid of the

00:47:12.840 homeless and now the cops have more time on their hands oh that's true they're just gonna come after

00:47:16.460 us i guess they're not gonna i've got to reconsider i didn't look at it that way that's a good point

00:47:20.900 let adam talk adam saying some shit over there what do you say you got in libertarianism that if you

00:47:27.200 get rid of all the cops all the fundamental problems of economic exploitation that homelessness is

00:47:34.340 is fucking should be embarrassing for any society that we're putting up with it right now and it's

00:47:40.480 it's cops like cops don't realize you know talk about shock therapy i wanted to say you know all

00:47:46.300 cops are bastards yeah i mean you're all defending the fucking system that makes homelessness an issue

00:47:51.380 in the first place you know you get rid of you get rid of homeless people the right way because you

00:47:56.240 end the enforcement of all the bullshit policies but in fairness if it weren't for your trust fund

00:48:01.260 you'd already be homeless so damn damn boy coming out hot we also got to get to these uh

00:48:09.980 super chats quickly let adam respond guys he needs his trust fund to get a microphone

00:48:15.120 oh uh no i i've i've i've got a little inheritance recently so like i don't i i get and i've i've shut

00:48:24.600 down my my podcast online operations i'm not fundraising for anything going into the national convention

00:48:31.080 i don't have any motivation like that i i really don't care but no i'm i'm very proud of the fact

00:48:37.020 that by age 40 you know i've i've built a homestead for myself that it's not completely

00:48:43.560 functioning self-sustaining but with what i have on it it could be and so it's okay adam what type of

00:48:51.680 what type of tractor you got man i know you got a tractor out there no not there yet not there yet i got

00:48:57.180 an awesome pickup and i got a lot okay which uh which overpass is your homestead under

00:49:03.120 i'm a big fan of the spikes under the overpasses so if we could just go ahead and

00:49:14.720 no no i think he's trying to show us outside

00:49:20.980 if you want to so jim's you can say hi jim jim's here in the studio this is one of the buildings we

00:49:34.320 we just missed it's really beautiful what time is it over there and uh you can see we got the wind

00:49:40.100 turbine it's uh 704 so sun just set that's a picacho that's the cabin i was telling you about

00:49:48.140 that's a prefab shed that we're building a cabin into it's got you know it's got windows and doors

00:49:53.680 and like a patio area and stuff solar panels and the turbine and uh yeah also so we got we got domes

00:50:01.520 we got all sorts of fun stuff shipping container my bus we're about to get that picked up we're

00:50:06.340 gonna get it wrapped in all black to to take to national this year but uh the national convention

00:50:12.380 sorry we should get back to the bracket right i'll be there no what are the what are the odds that

00:50:19.600 you go postal at national um let's let's say 50 50 to make it interesting

00:50:27.460 in that case i'll be there i'm buying my ticket right now

00:50:34.660 what's a dome for it's a bio for a greenhouse one is for a tiny house um one is for a gym

00:50:47.600 uh we had the dome making uh equipment here until recently thanks to ernie hancock uh freedoms

00:50:55.860 phoenix.com and uh it's it's just human sacrifice usually you do those under triangles not domes so

00:51:04.720 this is a little conflicting i think you did them on pentagrams i just want to know do you uh you still

00:51:12.460 have your bus right i saw that out there you still have your uh that's sick yeah dude so how much how

00:51:17.760 much meth can you actually cook in there i mean i know i know just in the rv i mean uh walter white

00:51:24.640 got out a good amount but with that big old thing i mean some i mean just good and uh he's he's smoking

00:51:30.280 that blue blue

00:51:31.260 kind of a thing out here it's it's i mean there are certain areas that are known as like meth country

00:51:41.200 meth territory and ash fork arizona has gone through several booms and busts over its history

00:51:47.440 with the railroad and the cattle and the freeway and 66 and then no cash is moving in

00:51:53.360 there there were a lot of meth labs out here in fact the property that i bought

00:52:01.200 had an abandoned meth lab audit

00:52:04.240 i'm not like it was it was a little pop-up rv with a water tank next to it and a bunch of raid

00:52:13.780 cans and on the property just north of ours there's another uh we think it's an abandoned meth lab

00:52:20.800 and then i have north of that is another one and that's where we rescued the puppies from

00:52:27.860 um at my birthday party a month ago we do the abandoned meth lab tour of ash fork and we walk

00:52:34.500 it's like three different sites um and then and then we give samples at the end of course because

00:52:42.700 we're good hosts you know i had a feeling i had a feeling your mental health decline correlating with

00:52:50.200 you moving to it's uh it's pretty close to new mexico too so honestly i was i was thinking about

00:52:58.780 what kind of drugs you were on because mushrooms wasn't doing it but meth makes a lot of sense

00:53:02.500 considering the way you were tweeting we're an hour in it down like weeds too you know mellow

00:53:08.000 what's this guy up to now we know just we but um you mentioned breaking bad one of the other busts

00:53:14.700 in ash fork was the the breaking bad type type operations put all the poor little mom and pop

00:53:21.180 meth shops out of business

00:53:22.440 it was the covid lockdowns of meth you people who like meth in small businesses

00:53:31.480 for your local meth cookers

00:53:35.920 i had a feeling that was going to be your pitch when you came on

00:53:40.660 at the end at the end we're like all right everybody do plugs he's like

00:53:45.440 local meth hookers your meth prostitutes they're always

00:53:49.640 support your corner whore i really i really do hate cops i really really do but i'm telling you

00:53:56.960 there is there is like there's like hardly anyone on this planet i hate more than the homeless at this

00:54:02.460 point because they sit in my front yard in california and i and i had to leave because of it

00:54:06.400 and they basically were in carl's bed if cops don't move on i'm leaving i'm signing off

00:54:11.720 all right definitely homeless

00:54:14.260 no it is really because i uh i remember uh in in florida they're really bad too also i mean i guess

00:54:25.940 it's not in california or the homeless both i mean i guess i mean everywhere the homeless and cops are bad

00:54:30.920 my thing is i guess they are the problem is that both these categories both these pieces of human

00:54:38.240 garbage um they're they're always nobody nobody is forced to be a cop a lot of people are forced

00:54:48.780 to be homeless even if you're a homeless cop

00:54:52.300 garbage because they choose to be cops

00:54:59.140 well what i'm saying is i feel like neither one of these will ever truly go away we could kill all

00:55:04.900 of them right now all of them gone wiped away off the face of the earth and they were literally spring

00:55:09.300 back up that's how every race you try to genocide works no but we're saying we are saying this is a

00:55:15.480 fully gone 100 this isn't like a 99 this isn't an adam kokesh vegan situation it sounds like you're

00:55:22.800 describing adam's political career you just can't

00:55:24.760 yes but if you got rid of all of the cops in a single act of genocide and then city governments

00:55:36.280 we're like hey guys does anybody want to be cops now no that's true that's pretty true

00:55:45.240 that's a good point i feel like cops cops enforce the the you know the tyranny so they gotta go they

00:55:51.340 gotta move on they have to even though i hate the homeless my god do i hate the homeless yeah i say

00:55:55.160 i would say homeless only because i know a cop broke adam's arm and i'm like that's kind of cool

00:55:59.800 so let's just move the homeless over there yeah well i don't know actually if you're like

00:56:06.660 in the boston like subway system every day like i am you actually get accosted way more by homeless

00:56:12.140 than cops now that is something because this it was somebody in a big city that was good i mean i

00:56:17.380 guess clint had a little bit of it but toad being in like a place like boston anybody in new york i feel

00:56:23.020 like would almost go man the homeless fucking suck dude like yo it's it's so crazy because i've i've been

00:56:29.760 in florida for a month and i almost like don't feel it i don't feel the hatred for cops or homeless

00:56:35.040 people anymore i'm just chill yeah i'm on my homestead bro yeah as soon as you get away from

00:56:40.080 him it's like it's yeah exactly it's like out of sight out of mind but yeah martha martha bueno is

00:56:45.220 always in that bitch dude magu said i've never stepped in cop shit

00:56:52.920 that's a good point i'm i'm gonna have to say move cops along too because i obviously tops not

00:57:02.560 much of a truck driver if he hasn't had the cops go after him enough i just i drive good reed you

00:57:07.980 fucking crash every day bro unbelievable it is well no i being a truck driver um yeah i fuck the cops i

00:57:15.480 hate him all right toad what's your vote homeless wow interesting give us your reasoning uh because

00:57:23.600 they're again he gets accosted by the homeless in the subway well and again and again they're

00:57:29.060 extremely that's like the only time he gets his privates

00:57:31.140 no the homeless are extremely large in numbers and like i said they're like

00:57:37.260 roaches you can't get rid of them well if you can't get rid of them then why are you voting to

00:57:42.760 genocide you gotta try all right well then what what was what was tops vote because i think we

00:57:51.440 may have a tie again i said uh see i would keep the cops around so the homeless i would keep them

00:57:57.720 around solely for the fact that they broke adam's arm but everything else they do is just complete

00:58:02.500 garbage i fucking can't stand them have you ever been accosted by a homeless person i feel like the

00:58:10.280 likelihood of that is pretty high and that might change tom he masked yes

00:58:13.860 homeless too and and you want to get deep real quick like there was a time i was i mean i was

00:58:24.600 rock veterans this is not it's not what this show is about this shit is retarded like

00:58:30.780 here's the thing i'll tell you the truth adam we're we all know what you know and what

00:58:37.740 everyone else knows because we listen to like podcasts all the time so just like take all that

00:58:42.200 shit out that's the lowest common denominator delete it forget it and just go with the most

00:58:46.420 retarded shit you can think am i wrong stop me when i'm wrong it's all been great so far we've all

00:58:52.920 read the same stuff so just go but whatever go ahead go ahead hold on i'm gonna i'm gonna

00:58:57.740 i'm gonna take my headphones off real quick go ahead

00:59:00.780 i'm already over time i was gonna do an hour

00:59:07.700 oh we're 59 minutes come on oh finish it up just we'll finish off the homeless and cops and then

00:59:15.560 get on to the uh i mean do you i mean do you have anything on movie talkers and midwits really

00:59:20.240 i mean movie talkers you know where we're getting at homeless or cops who is it well i'm

00:59:24.920 yeah clint's voting cops i think cops won four to two i think yeah yeah cops move on up next we

00:59:34.060 have black people versus black people that went to harvard

00:59:38.520 adam give us give us your two cents because i know you got to bounce what do you think

00:59:46.460 what is it movie talkers versus what midwits define midwit

00:59:52.720 it's the person it's the person that whenever you give them a theoretical so you say would you like

01:00:02.820 this or this and they go no i would like this other thing and and that's a midwit that's a person that

01:00:09.780 comes in and then gives their take and thinks it's profound when it's just the dumbest yeah

01:00:16.280 you described every libertarian when presented with republican or democrat

01:00:20.200 yes

01:00:21.080 yes yes you're not wrong you're making a great case

01:00:25.560 go ahead and pick the move it's on

01:00:27.420 go ahead and pick out of republicans or democrats go ahead

01:00:32.040 god damn when i when i hear republican or democrat or someone trying to decide i think it's someone who's

01:00:38.520 got like two handfuls of shit trying to decide which one smells better yeah but but you have

01:00:44.200 and then there's a piece of shit on the ground that's the libertarian party like oh

01:00:47.460 when i say like drop the shit like it's really more about you know giving up on you know any

01:00:56.620 illusion of of change coming from appeal to authority and now and now you understand what the midwit

01:01:02.320 response is so uh movie talkers or midwit i've been forethought in hollywood for 10 years i mean

01:01:11.100 hollywood i don't think i have to tell you how fucked up it is so anybody who pays for movies in

01:01:16.700 the first place so you not only pay for the movie you then go in there and then ruin it for also

01:01:27.040 everybody else that was stupid enough to pay for you're just you know the movie that

01:01:32.320 could actually be a case for like

01:01:34.320 that's it was like you know really a realistic question like if it's like a baby penis are we

01:01:57.100 like are we still gonna go ahead with these allegations serious question right can babies

01:02:02.660 rape i don't think so well wait a minute though there are two reasons why tom's penis must actually

01:02:09.180 be gigantic one is that he was apparently fucking her from halfway across the country

01:02:14.260 and the other and the other is that she's extremely fat so to overcome

01:02:21.420 god damn tote well we're never getting on the tom wood show

01:02:29.700 talk about a shit compliment sandwich you're like your dicks and normans and your your ex-wife's fat

01:02:39.260 is that's a double compliment i was trying to let him off the hook by saying his you know his shit

01:02:45.700 was really tiny so he couldn't have done it but whatever adam if you'd like to give your plugs uh

01:02:50.980 we'd like to talk shit about you after you log off so the meth lab down the road the other meth lab

01:02:55.500 down that road

01:02:56.380 what you guys do don't confide if you're if you're a regular listener of the show uh you can

01:03:05.620 just say that again adam you broke up a little bit if you're a regular listener of the show what'd you

01:03:15.160 say anybody who's a regular listener of the show like should be you know should be in the bracket

01:03:21.840 actually should be the winner they're disabled all of them that's pretty good that's pretty good

01:03:28.540 um yeah no i don't i don't really care if people want to find me they want to see me trolling

01:03:35.340 and fingering all the assholes i can't go follow him on twitter he's on using shit i've seen all year

01:03:42.340 yeah adam adam i used to i used to build railroad tracks and i've seen quite a few derailments and i mean

01:03:49.380 yours the most fantastic let me tell you

01:03:54.360 follow adam on odyssey

01:04:00.360 i told people i don't know why y'all are surprised that i wanted to be john mcafee when i grow up

01:04:07.860 i'm halfway there uh started have you're like a hybrid of vermin supreme and uh john mcafee you're

01:04:15.340 like somewhere in the middle yeah it's funny the worst accusation i get is that i'm balding

01:04:21.400 i am actually unbalding for patient

01:04:24.320 how does that work uh toad wants to know

01:04:30.000 i do love about this show and the angle of brutal comedy

01:04:38.740 is that the most intense scrutiny and i want to finish one serious point i was getting at earlier

01:04:46.240 about shock therapy you know

01:04:49.120 oh it doesn't work you're fat shaming actually i get messages from people years later from when i've

01:04:56.640 done serious segments

01:04:57.740 all that i needed so i hope that this can be the wake of you assholes to stop being such limp dick

01:05:08.020 idiotic cucks and get your heads out of your asses because this probably is the last episode of the show

01:05:13.880 you're ever going to be like follow us on odyssey just with uh with the also with that up

01:05:19.300 that's right yeah not for real adam adam i like you i like you i'm sorry i'm sorry that

01:05:26.060 things went this way i think you're cool and i enjoyed drawing you a couple of times you're cool

01:05:30.700 my i've just i felt my queue get lower over the last hour oh yeah listens to this episode

01:05:38.720 or ever listens to the show again you should have seen us at episode one we were

01:05:43.860 literally einsteins and then by now this is where we've gotten to it's it's crazy we're dropping

01:05:49.120 our own we're just trying to drop you out of the midwood category i hope you enjoyed it though

01:05:53.220 libertarian of you uh yeah they're they're bigger things than than what you think is important when

01:06:04.240 you get that libertarian tunnel vision and um you know i'm gonna go fuck my hot girlfriend

01:06:09.900 and she's an awesome dinner and i got uh all the weed i can smoke here and a beautiful life

01:06:16.680 and yeah if i wanted to i i'm nice are you gonna fuck her to the lion sleep wait wait adam adam though

01:06:25.020 wait up well like you got you got to vote uh so are we are you voting for yourself or spike cohen's wife

01:06:31.480 she's probably in both categories though so no way she seems very nice i'm sorry spike

01:06:49.720 adam anything else before you go uh telegram is better than twitter so find me at adam versus

01:06:59.260 the man on telegram and odyssey is better than youtube i'm also at adam kokish on youtube where

01:07:05.160 i'm super shadow banned but you can uh subscribe to me there or on odyssey at adam koker so you can

01:07:12.020 also see him speak live under the bridge in arizona so thank you for joining us adam thank you man

01:07:19.220 thanks adam peace that all of your beards suck next to mine and you have tiny little

01:07:24.380 it gives you plenty of

01:07:27.340 all of you your internet sucks compared to mine get the fuck out of here

01:07:33.640 holy fuck oh man i gotta admit i like him more after this episode i can't help it he's kind of

01:07:44.280 irresistible you know dude that's what happens with all of our episodes we make people more based than

01:07:49.740 they yeah we're like the point guard we're the point guard of based that's right we're gonna get

01:07:55.420 to these uh super chats here we're just yes you should have been getting to them the entire time

01:08:00.340 i was trying to we got caught

01:08:02.380 why'd you wait to share that that's great

01:08:09.100 keep it up you just keep it up you just don't bring it out of your diet is antithetical to nature

01:08:15.920 and you're on

01:08:16.680 that's great and then uh michael cock also had uh oh my favorite person yeah he goes i love toad

01:08:26.280 damn i'm here so y'all can poop on adam did we not i feel like we did a good job and yeah no that

01:08:33.060 was i thought i brought the fire did i bring the fire i mean it was okay hey you missed my line at

01:08:38.820 the beginning top i told when he said i'm one of them you know when he tweeted at me that i'm one

01:08:44.300 that i'm one of the dishonest people and we can't let that slide it's poison to the movement or

01:08:48.920 whatever but he set up one of them i was making the point to him that like look adam i'm the gentile

01:08:54.560 in this situation we're not allowed to say any of the bad words so them is our word like you can't

01:08:59.720 use that i thought that was a good point though i feel like top top and i in unison taking our

01:09:04.560 headphones off when adam said he was gonna get deep that was that was good and then no one responded

01:09:09.980 i saw it when it when it was like a little bit too late and i was like that's pretty funny

01:09:16.480 if i don't he said he was gonna get deep i would have made some fingering the asshole comment so

01:09:22.100 honestly rogue was true he said until top off the joint it was way too tame towards him

01:09:26.960 and it just it just i'm i can't i can't do it i'm so i'm i'm too jovial with everybody but i thought

01:09:35.360 it was gonna come in way more i went to the jugular multiple times you did that's true you did

01:09:39.680 yeah but you didn't go like top and say hey fuck you shut the fuck up about this deep shit get

01:09:46.180 retarded man that was that was the best that was the best rant of the episode honestly well we

01:09:52.540 i should be here to give that same speech to every single guest we have stop trying to be smart we

01:09:58.140 all fucking have read the same shit like yeah that's that's like the least common denominator

01:10:03.000 yes uh we all understand this borders debate except the uh the bitch fuck cocks and the

01:10:12.320 midwits don't understand it i saw i saw his borders his borders comment because i was like i like

01:10:17.060 rocking my my kid to go to sleep and i'm listening to you guys and he's like let me tell you about the

01:10:21.540 borders and and the government is like we fucking know bro we know i read that shit i probably read

01:10:26.360 more than you so stop it now let's let's get let's get retarded let's get retarded how fucking

01:10:33.880 beautiful was it that he he he had to we had to explain to him what a midwit was and then he still

01:10:40.020 couldn't choose the binary choice and then he gave a lengthy response after you said you can't choose

01:10:45.360 one or the other and you give a lengthy response you're a midwit and he's like well see that's the

01:10:49.040 thing about republicans and democrats they're both shit so i'm saying you just put them both on the

01:10:53.040 ground it's like he did vote for movie talkers right yeah i know he hated black people it was

01:11:01.140 he made a great point about movie talkers i think i'm gonna i'm gonna choose that one too i don't

01:11:06.240 well i mean i think movie talkers is always gonna move on but i think there is something for midwits

01:11:10.960 and that basically for me the midwits thing was me putting out adam kokash is apparently a midwit

01:11:17.040 so that is really funny that is but also i literally did put out a uh a tweet like i think it was last

01:11:22.980 week it got a lot of traction a lot of people responding to it and i literally just said is

01:11:27.620 this thing better than this thing and they were just like no because government's involved i would

01:11:33.540 choose no government it's like right you motherfuckers that's not what it is and then you block those

01:11:38.940 people cole that's what i do when i because you know the polls i do like if it's hillary clinton

01:11:44.620 versus george bush 2024 neither you know just cole just cole just wants to fucking eliminate the

01:11:51.360 midwits because he's tired of looking up at him he's like these 115 motherfuckers

01:11:58.560 well the midwits uh the problem this is a tough matchup because the problem i have with the

01:12:06.220 midwits is that they are the people who like went through academia graduated college so they think

01:12:11.700 that they're intellectuals they think they're intellectually superior to everybody else and

01:12:17.200 that they can i'm telling you the the biggest advocates for masking and lockdowns are all midwits

01:12:22.620 oh yeah absolutely that's what i'm saying so i'm leaning that way and movie talkers like despite the

01:12:29.020 fact that they do that and they ruin movies i think ruining movies might actually be a positive

01:12:33.160 in some cases well because the nba playoffs are on right now i can't even tell you how much i

01:12:37.480 appreciate movie talkers their athleticism is incredible their handles the fact that they can

01:12:44.180 like 360 dunk it's amazing let me tell you dude like they're my favorite people like on the subway

01:12:51.940 like they make me laugh all the time like i talk to these people they're less likely to wear masks

01:12:56.240 yes and they're less likely to get the vax movie talkers hey yeah yeah they're they're pretty cool

01:13:01.640 bro yeah on the other hand however they have way bigger penises than we do so or at least than i do

01:13:08.060 another big another good thing uh movie talker twitter is great if you if you can find movie

01:13:13.620 twitter and get on it trying to get in there trying to get in there so bad somebody please it's kind

01:13:19.360 of based out like movie talkers take care of their kids too you know oh yeah yeah movie talkers walk out

01:13:24.540 they go get a they go get a you know they're the ones that they're not only talking to the movie

01:13:29.260 they get up they make a loud ruckus while they're leaving and then they just don't come back to the

01:13:33.380 movie and yeah they just uh that's pretty based and they keep it yep it's true well i did almost get

01:13:39.340 in a fight with some literal movie talkers once and yes they they were indeed also black but they

01:13:43.960 were talking during the simpsons movie but it was the third time i was seeing that movie

01:13:47.600 and one of my friends was the first time he was seeing it i wound up almost getting in a fight with

01:13:52.440 them so i don't know why the fuck did you go to the movie theater let him let him let him finish

01:13:58.000 i'm a huge simpsons man jesus christ all right well what i want to know is you so you were looking

01:14:06.440 at three black men and you were going i can take them

01:14:10.700 i got this it was a verbal altercation it did not become physical and i probably would have been

01:14:18.680 dead yes that's why you need us toad like we're your protectors

01:14:24.100 also toad you're you're you're doing bad at your job there's two more super chats i want

01:14:29.480 here's a here's a question for you guys if you eliminate midwits then then i'd like to think of

01:14:35.400 myself just slightly above midwit but if we eliminate the midwits then we would be the midwits

01:14:39.940 because there's really smart people out there and they're still going to be dumb people that's right

01:14:43.700 it's a curve it's a bell and also you would get the retards would move up the like slightly above

01:14:50.600 midwits would move down and now we have a new like center category yeah we become midwits with the

01:14:57.480 smarter retards basically no i'm i'm 140 so i think i would be at the very low end of smart still so

01:15:04.260 that'd be kind of cool i'm 156 so i don't know i don't fucking believe that

01:15:09.400 i'm very i'm very autistic very good at pattern recognition i was i was high school valedictorian

01:15:16.940 i just obliterated but totally if you're good at pattern recognition if you're good at pattern

01:15:22.060 recognition you know you can't take three black people you should you should 156 some pussy

01:15:28.760 you know what i'm saying we got that dan smots in the chat here this is like the

01:15:34.700 so so like is our face punching somebody else or how does that i think he's just talking about

01:15:43.760 we're just uh this is just the we're losing all type of awards we're awarding people we're going

01:15:49.480 to die instead of like go on with and we have a dave smith in the chat i am okay no no he's got

01:15:56.580 four exclamation points that's true he has four it's only three daniel this is why you're never

01:16:02.100 coming on tower game did anybody else watch daniel's fucking debate with the hody whoever this cat is

01:16:08.400 no i didn't no oh my god i i i challenge you guys to watch it his name is jacob though right

01:16:15.520 no no no no he was debating some dude named hody johns i think and no his name is jacob yeah yeah yeah

01:16:23.120 yeah and you called him daniel never mind go ahead sorry

01:16:27.620 i call him jacob i don't know is it jacob daniel i don't know what a dumb name whatever the fuck

01:16:34.500 his name is it's not like his name is biblical anarchy anyways so he's debating this dude right and

01:16:40.660 it's the the name of the show is mises caucus like good or evil is the name of the fucking debate

01:16:46.960 and and this dude this dude's entire premise is that the mises caucus is a cult and and they sat

01:16:53.400 there and i like god bless these christians for having all this patience and and certainly i

01:16:58.060 demonstrated some christian level patience when it came to having fucking coach kokesh's crazy ass on

01:17:02.900 my show last week but when someone's sitting there telling you that you're a cult and then they start

01:17:07.320 talking all condescendingly like he that i like i want in fact jacob daniel whatever the fuck your name

01:17:13.700 is i want to go on your show and i want to debate this hody johns guy so i'm throwing down the anvil

01:17:19.600 let's do this shit anyway sorry go ahead but i have i think i have better criticisms of the mises

01:17:24.740 caucus than than all these guys i think that they're they're gay just for and i have good reasons

01:17:31.080 i'm still building the case guys so just give me a few more years when i have sex it's two

01:17:47.680 heterosexual men having straight sex with each other okay i do i want to get into this this dave let's go

01:17:55.180 thing because i mentioned i tweeted about this and then i sent it to our group chat and clint goes

01:18:00.720 i don't get it what's the what's the point dave is and i was like he does this all the time and he

01:18:05.320 was like he's this just the way he promotes and i was like clint i don't think you understand just

01:18:09.480 look up let's go and like his search and it's literally just dozens of tweets the same let's go

01:18:17.320 with all have three exclamation points is the implication that he has he is either a robot or that

01:18:23.580 he has outsourced his promotions or his twitter entirely what are you trying to say i think there

01:18:27.700 is some sort of automated response that he is yes yeah there is no way that he does let's go i'm

01:18:35.440 sorry but i could i don't know cole by the way is just trying to justify why dave never responds to

01:18:40.980 him what's funny is i did ask let's go no i dm'd him he dm'd me back and he just said let's go

01:18:48.860 exclamation point that was because it was uh but i don't know like uh i don't even know what

01:18:56.860 the word i'm looking for is my stream with him and it lasted more than 10 seconds yesterday i

01:19:01.660 would have had him do like four exclamation points or two exclamation points just to fuck

01:19:06.960 up cole's whole prove you're not prove you're not a russian bot dave prove you're not a russian

01:19:10.760 bot that's funny i i think when people ask him on a podcast they like you say hey you want to come

01:19:17.640 on a podcast and he's like oh fuck okay and then he does it and then when when you're like oh it's

01:19:22.620 today he goes let's go and that's like his let's go like fucking let's go his own podcast with lewis

01:19:28.680 which also could be he does it with kennedy like it's it's every he did it with tim cast i mean i have

01:19:36.880 some autistic looking into this i know the ones he's done it for he's done it for everybody is

01:19:41.660 something wrong dave yeah he's sending us a message like i'm sick of doing all these appearances

01:19:48.220 so what was funny is i mentioned this the uh to duke uh chastain he was on my podcast last

01:19:54.160 our sports podcast last night and i was like it's funny when you watch because i was watching

01:19:58.640 daniel him on daniel's podcast and i was like it's really funny when dave goes on smaller podcasts like

01:20:03.980 ours or whenever clinton reed had like we're a little bit smaller and when you go on daniel's he uses it

01:20:09.160 like a vent and he goes on there because he always has a person in mind that has wronged him

01:20:14.800 and he's like i can't talk about this i'm part of the problem i'm gonna go on one of these smaller

01:20:18.780 ones and fucking rip these guys to shreds that's why that's what he's done both times on tower gang

01:20:24.200 yes he has first time it was all about the loser brigade and then the second time it was all about

01:20:29.400 the 12 shots thing because that was we need to this is how you know my show's blowing up because

01:20:34.280 i was like i'm watching this hody johns dude fucking drag the mises caucus with the most

01:20:38.800 bullshit arguments i've ever heard in my life and i'm all i'm thinking to myself is like

01:20:42.600 i'm not there's no way i'm gonna have this dude on liberty lockdown like i need to i need

01:20:46.600 jacob daniel to invite me on to defeat this guy because i'm not giving this dude a platform

01:20:51.360 i'll arrange that exchange for one two no not gonna happen all right clint we don't care about you that

01:20:59.120 much yeah i just want to argue with this guy god damn it now we gotta have dave on tower power

01:21:06.280 again so he can vent about another one of those things and you can talk about tom woods

01:21:09.460 and joe jorgensen he was like man he was so weak on her on on part of the problem he's like well

01:21:16.840 she said some things that weren't quite accurate i was like call her a bitch

01:21:19.580 people said some things see like like this is where you miss it like you think you murdered martha

01:21:27.780 bueno where to most people you just and like we appreciated it but to most people you just look

01:21:33.000 like a retard you can't shut up like when you're at dave's level when yes like joe jorgensen says

01:21:38.600 that you just go like whatever and you ignore them and that's the real power play no no i take

01:21:44.380 i take the low road yeah you let all of us all of us fucking gremlins take the low road so he can

01:21:49.960 still still have some sort of like professional appeal i i uh i went on uh the system is down with

01:21:54.960 dan smuts and i fucking lit that bitch on fire so if you want to if you want to hear what dave

01:21:58.960 probably was actually thinking you could check it out i i was vicious to her she looks like she

01:22:04.120 looks like one of the robots in in westworld that hasn't been fucked

01:22:07.240 you mean the man

01:22:13.940 she speaks makes me mad now dude like i i don't even like the way she talks anymore

01:22:21.120 well i like you liked it before no i didn't like it but like now now just like hearing her speak even

01:22:27.480 if she's not saying something awful i now like i have this visceral reaction where i'm like shut

01:22:31.940 up shut up shut up who's worse gary johnson or joe jorgensen because i honestly don't know joe jorgensen

01:22:38.000 yeah because because she's a teacher honestly teachers should be on this list she's a she's a white

01:22:43.700 woman my dad's a teacher dude that's what white women is included with teachers are almost all

01:22:48.420 teachers are white women it's almost it's yeah it's crazy yeah they're all it's also cops they're

01:22:53.160 also cops so i think i think joe jorgensen is a better libertarian than gary johnson but gary

01:22:59.980 johnson's not as insufferable as she is that's fine they're both terrible but i would say that she's

01:23:06.000 worse yeah i don't know she doesn't know anything she's like i consulted my team johnson well he didn't

01:23:13.740 know fucking aleppo but like well he also didn't know that you don't have to bake a cake but whatever

01:23:18.300 did gary johnson accuse dave smith of being a rapist no no he just threw austin peterson do you

01:23:25.940 know the gun story with austin peterson yeah yeah i heard yeah like a flintlock pistol and a gift

01:23:31.420 and then he just threw it in the trash yeah yeah yeah definitely didn't move yeah did you guys see

01:23:37.320 that clip that was recirculating with the uh the libertarian debate when they were asking about

01:23:42.340 driver's licenses oh my god i wanted it it's the best but i wanted to kill to kill myself because

01:23:50.080 i'm like this is the party that i've tied my identity to they're like daryl perry is the face

01:23:56.260 of libertarianism it's so embarrassing we gotta get daryl perry on on tower power

01:24:03.220 i want to get the guy that went nude was that the guy that went nude no no he's uh he's a he's

01:24:10.260 a dude with like obvious severe brain damage in fact he just made it to the next round

01:24:14.340 congratulations he's become even more brain damaged because he married that woman who's like

01:24:21.980 turned him into even more of a cuck yeah i'm telling you winging like retard not just a retard

01:24:28.460 let me say with that one giant tooth right yeah yeah yeah that's the one thing that i really

01:24:34.820 that's what i really don't like about kokesh i'm sorry go ahead yeah my bad i'm drinking i'm drinking

01:24:39.800 go ahead man no i'm talking about something because uh i remember when that came out because i was in

01:24:45.160 college and all of my friends were like look at the fucking libertarian party convention because you

01:24:51.260 know at the same time it was that was the same one with uh whenever trump was running it was in 2016

01:24:56.220 right yeah and and samantha b did a whole coverage on the how did they get larry elder

01:25:04.200 larry elder must have been like what the fuck am i doing here yeah larry elder yeah for some reason

01:25:09.500 he was asking those questions that were just designed to make libertarians that's what he felt prepared

01:25:14.560 him to run for governor of california he's like okay if i could have handled that then i could turn

01:25:18.940 this state away larry elder he also looks like a robot from westworld that nobody fucks

01:25:25.060 right too shiny he's too shiny you know what that's like the movie talkers you ever seen them

01:25:30.960 when they put like vaseline on and they come out like fresh face like that i'm like it's fucking

01:25:34.400 weird too shiny i don't like that i don't trust those people you ever you ever see like a um

01:25:39.140 like a real type of type of like water park and then like all the movie times go there i've never

01:25:46.760 seen a movie talker at a water park it's called carn carnival cruise it's what it's called

01:25:52.460 hey guys we need to vote on this is it are we doing movie talkers because movie talkers versus

01:25:59.440 cops i think magoo said this earlier that is hilarious versus movie talkers this might be

01:26:04.160 one of the funniest it's almost better than cops it's a natural that is hilarious um movie talkers by

01:26:12.100 the way yeah as you were saying i don't think they ever go to a water park because they would

01:26:15.500 all be dead so i'll tell you why movie talkers and there's not many movie talkers where i live now but

01:26:21.140 i went to walmart and i ordered a pizza and it took fucking 55 minutes for the pizza and it didn't even

01:26:26.240 come out but at 55 minutes i went and i said where the fuck's the pizza at this like a cheap bullshit

01:26:30.520 pizza that i want and they're like oh something's wrong with the oven bubble it gave me a real attitude

01:26:35.120 and i was like oh i remember again so movie talkers i vote for movie talkers they run on movie

01:26:41.280 talker times so unbelievable she told me she told me with such glee like yeah well we're having

01:26:48.240 problems with the pizza i don't give a fuck where's my pizza man eat that shit up with your thighs i

01:26:53.420 don't care i'm hungry again call him jacob uh we will call you have daniel in the beginning of your

01:27:00.460 name of your podcast i will read the book of jacob i swear i knew this dude's name until we started

01:27:07.840 talking about him now i have no idea what it is daniel or daniel jacob the guy it's hezekiah

01:27:13.900 just call him hezekiah hey uh yeah it's called not gonna be on this show system of it down with

01:27:20.000 the 420 super chat thank you point versus hody on uh down let's go there's it is that gonna be

01:27:28.180 better than whatever you had on those uh fuckers from whatever was it connecticut or delaware

01:27:32.220 delaware or those motherfuckers that was i'm ever tuning into that that was

01:27:36.480 that was a good episode oh yeah that was funny yeah um i'm gonna i'm gonna go against the trend

01:27:42.540 here i really i really love movie talkers and i'm gonna put midwits onto the next round of course

01:27:48.580 of course i'm with clint for the reasons i already stated midwits really are like the reason the

01:27:54.060 covid shit became what it did they're the the false intellectuals uh they're they're they're

01:27:59.000 basically like white women same thing they're they're the people that watch cnn and they go

01:28:03.120 oh my god this is all so true like movie talkers are fun however i do agree that uh movie talkers

01:28:09.520 versus cops is a funny nick nick midwits said are they all midwits because they haven't made a

01:28:14.300 selection yet

01:28:15.120 fair point no um now i didn't realize clint was a movie talker lover

01:28:24.320 that's weird because he had he had a whole episode where you're talking about how much he

01:28:29.400 hates movie talkers but once you once you once you talk at the movies you just don't go back

01:28:34.280 i'm gonna report you guys to the n double a mt

01:28:37.560 we don't have to ask cole he drops more in bobs than anybody movie talkers goes on to the next

01:28:50.260 round for him for sure top lobson what you got i'm just saying like if if we're talking about

01:28:54.300 covid being midwits issue but like we wouldn't even have joe biden if it wasn't for movie talkers

01:28:59.120 because actually if you didn't vote for joe biden you're not a movie talker

01:29:02.080 all right uh reed you are the deciding vote yeah well so we're not counting adams then

01:29:15.900 oh clint someone didn't make this uh um kobe bryant but um adam said midwits right

01:29:22.800 your favorite movie talker is already dead so i think no i don't say movie talkers

01:29:26.440 honestly though i don't think kobe talked in the movies i'll just put that out there

01:29:32.660 there's no way he's he's half white i'm gonna go with movie talkers oh my god i can't believe

01:29:39.720 reed the racist of course he is look at reed's face reed what's your favorite rap song you've

01:29:45.800 never listened to one in your life so stop it uh liberty lockdown that's what

01:29:49.500 does that mean it's three three no i thought you said i mostly chose it just so there wouldn't be

01:29:59.260 a tie but uh how can it be three three toad oh i guess adam voted adam doesn't count

01:30:04.740 movie talkers what a top vote for movie talkers movie talkers okay so

01:30:09.760 did he vote for movie talkers yeah yeah that's why his political career is over

01:30:16.380 we should we should put adam kokesh's political career in the final bracket

01:30:26.300 whatever wins this it goes up against his career well remember when we made the bracket we said we're

01:30:31.600 just gonna put adam kokesh in it he's on every fucking every fucking one i told you white woman

01:30:37.680 had the homeless disabled cops midwits here we go he's all of them that's true

01:30:44.740 all right hey can we can we do a little big brain time because we were supposed to debate

01:30:49.160 uh the desantis stripping yeah we got we got a little we got a little bit of time we can do it

01:30:53.720 basically this came from clint is being a straight-up status right now he uh

01:30:58.620 tell him take this take this thing off yeah also we need a little background like what exactly

01:31:04.860 what my clothes i'll get you i'll get you because the the surprise of 2022 is clint's descent to

01:31:10.940 post-libertarianism and it's all because of governor desantis is basically what it's become down to

01:31:15.880 and what he did was and if i clint correct me if i'm wrong if i got this wrong he removed the tax

01:31:22.660 exempt status from um disney in orlando because because orlando is basically half of it is owned by

01:31:29.860 disney and it's like there it is like legitimately their own community and they basically removed

01:31:35.800 that community kind of thing from them to where it is now they're self-governance yep yeah it's under

01:31:41.800 the jurisdiction now of orlando or i don't know the county or wherever they're at and over there

01:31:46.420 is that i think he also he also removed their ip right or like didn't renew it well it's it's weird

01:31:52.440 because he annexed disney world basically into florida which is very weird because i thought

01:31:57.080 desantis was against the pedophiles and now he just brought them all into his state so odd yeah

01:32:03.440 but clint they were there already i mean it wasn't it wasn't some autonomous fucking land mass like i

01:32:10.360 don't know what we're talking about here all right so uh we'll go ahead read make your make your argument

01:32:14.800 then i'll make mine well clint do you have anything is that was that the full like background of it

01:32:19.800 that that's that's more or less my understanding yeah that's that's that's the gist of it okay

01:32:24.820 well first of all i don't well i actually want clint to go first so okay no no no read read make the

01:32:31.180 gay argument and then we'll have the base argument go ahead i'll make the argument so all right sure

01:32:40.600 basically basically what i what i'm saying is that i would like to see the libertarians and the liberty

01:32:45.020 community more broadly not run cover for these businesses that have profited off of corporatism i

01:32:51.600 mean and it's and it's so clear that disney of all companies especially because they've received

01:32:56.380 uh renewal of their uh you know ip protection or whatever the fuck it is uh for their logos and dis

01:33:02.720 and mickey and all this shit they have made an incredible amount of money and and they own many

01:33:07.580 politicians because of it the fact that desantis is bucking that trend and saying i don't give a fuck

01:33:11.800 how much money you're going to contribute to my opponent i'm going to break your back because you

01:33:16.520 with my my plans for my state i like it i like it and i'm like that's that's basically my my stance is

01:33:24.500 i do not want libertarians running cover for big businesses that have profiteered off of crushing

01:33:30.040 small businesses and disney amazon any of these companies that that sat by and made god god knows how

01:33:38.060 much money over the past two years because of lockdowns fuck all of them they have they have

01:33:43.120 tarnished the name of capitalism they are not a product of the free market they are a bastardization

01:33:48.020 of the free market and they are the reason that socialism and marxism is becoming popular in this

01:33:52.300 country is because everybody looks at those companies and they go look at look at what capitalism is

01:33:56.040 doing and it's not fucking capitalism so as far as i'm concerned if i can't break them i'd more than

01:34:00.820 willing to let desantis or any other politician fuck for me hell yeah all right now reed defend pedophilia

01:34:06.040 well first of all i haven't even made any tweets like criticizing desantis for this so what happened

01:34:14.720 this was just in our chat well no no it's no that's not true clint you yeah you clinton you

01:34:19.100 supported it so no no this is what happened is you like you sent us a reply from somebody

01:34:24.920 and we were just like well what's the op and then you sent us the op and i think cole and i were just

01:34:31.420 kind of like yeah i don't know like that does seem kind of weird and then you were just like i'm ready

01:34:36.120 to go to war over this and through we were just like oh no hey that that wasn't that wasn't that

01:34:41.940 wasn't me saying that to you guys that was me oh i know that this is like i'm just pointing out to

01:34:46.620 everyone like it wasn't like cole and i were like tweeting like fuck desantis he's a terrible like no

01:34:52.040 no no tyrannical asshole or whatever like we just had i think um sorry i i if i if i present like

01:34:58.060 that that was my mistake no no you did it it's just how it came across in the chat slightly oh

01:35:02.820 it's okay so yeah what i was saying is when i made that post i figured i'd get a ton of fucking

01:35:08.180 lulbert pushback and i was like i was waiting for it and that's why i was saying when i sent it to

01:35:11.900 you guys i was saying i'm ready to go to war with this because i knew that it was going to be unpopular

01:35:15.460 with some people and i was like i was i was geared up for it but then then the fact that you guys came

01:35:20.340 out and you're like yeah i don't know i don't really like that so much and i was like and and for the

01:35:24.620 record i already understand the counter argument thoroughly like i obviously you don't want the

01:35:29.480 government to have this kind of power to fucking break the back of any business that it chooses

01:35:32.940 yada yada yeah i yes i granted all of that however they're already doing that they're already breaking

01:35:38.980 the back of all the small businesses across this entire country and if they're going to now have the

01:35:43.440 the handful of politicians that are actually defending small business and the people they're not

01:35:48.440 fucking it's fair game dude like they brought it upon themselves and and they should have fucking

01:35:52.940 shut the fuck up when it came to what desantis was trying to do with the don't say i'm basically

01:35:57.280 like i'm not like out there defending disney or screaming at desantis disney it's just like a

01:36:03.580 passive disapproval like i don't really care that much but i'm just like i don't know the the biggest

01:36:08.340 thing is and i actually agree with desantis more than disney on the political side of this but what's

01:36:14.280 going on here is it's a political manipulation it's not about getting money back to people who lost it

01:36:21.340 during the lockdowns or something it's like disney politically or it's not even about equaling the

01:36:26.660 playing field no it's not about any of that it's all about political opposition to desantis that disney

01:36:32.540 has this is well hold on desantis has a history of suppressing people with political opposition to his

01:36:41.100 ideas with bds you know like so this is just in my opinion it's an authoritarian move on his part it's not

01:36:48.500 in defense of disney or that i think that this is you know it's not even a capitalist thing like a

01:36:54.040 free market thing it's it's simply that he is going against them because they stand in opposition to

01:37:00.200 him even though i agree with him this is just an obvious move where it's like fuck you you're gonna

01:37:05.100 disagree with me this is my state you will do what i want well but i don't like that this is this is my

01:37:10.280 this is my counter to that this is exactly what the biden administration did when it came to

01:37:16.100 rolling out rolling out vaccine mandates yeah i i yes i know you know this but i'm saying i'm saying

01:37:21.940 this is what this is the game we're in i feel like like to argue against it is a mistake like this is

01:37:28.280 this is the game now we're going to have political authoritarianism that is fucking one side that's

01:37:33.340 doing fucking this is why i'm moving to new hampshire i don't think it has to be clint you know what i'd say

01:37:38.780 clint it is what it is i'd say i'd say that government in general is immoral and we should work on

01:37:45.080 having no government at all so that way we wouldn't have this issue yeah it's called move

01:37:51.060 to new hampshire top he did it wrong i don't know i'll say a couple hundred miles north instead of

01:37:55.400 800 miles south i moved i moved where the heat is and where the power is all right we got we got a

01:38:01.140 governor with some balls here well i i felt the same way whenever and i mentioned this to clint in

01:38:05.700 the chat too i felt the same way whenever desantis uh did the ban on vaccine passports in florida

01:38:11.700 yeah i agreed with that yeah yeah well i didn't even agree with i was like i understand from the

01:38:16.400 libertarian point of view this is wrong and i'm not going to go out there i'm not going to support

01:38:20.020 it publicly but i can understand how this is technically going like it's it's almost like

01:38:26.300 the ends don't justify the means but in this kind of thing it almost kind of does it's like the means

01:38:30.380 are wrong but the ends that we're getting to is fuck over these people that want to do it way worse than

01:38:35.360 they want they other people want to get it worse and so you have a different guy that does

01:38:38.520 so but i i can still understand why it's wrong i'm just not gonna but at the same time if like uh

01:38:45.740 and i asked you this clint if new hampshire said for some reason said uh hey like the free state

01:38:51.240 project gets uh the same type of land or same type of deal that disney autonomous zone yeah they get

01:38:57.420 the same i'm talking the exact same thing that disney gets in new hampshire would you be like they do

01:39:02.300 it's called uh roger's campground report so you would say yes to that so it's just because they

01:39:08.660 are i said yes with me knee jerk reaction yes 100 so it's just because i think i think i'm becoming

01:39:13.800 an egoist i honestly do i think i'm becoming an egoist i think fucking fucking jose's bitch ass is

01:39:18.480 getting to me because because let me tell you this is this is my stance on it the way i see it this

01:39:24.520 is godzilla versus like a giant mothman and disney's the mothman and godzilla is like you know

01:39:29.640 desantis and and the state government of florida and they're both kind of shitty they're going to

01:39:34.020 destroy your city either way but you're like yo fuck up that mothman real quick and you know what

01:39:38.280 that being said i'm still gonna buy season tickets to the mothman's playground because it's fucking

01:39:43.340 awesome and it benefits my kids so fuck you and fuck everybody else and fuck adam kokish and the

01:39:49.500 mises caucus and toad up there too i'm going i'm going to fucking space mountain i don't care what

01:39:54.100 anybody says i gotta do what's best for me until everyone until they take this whole shit down so

01:39:59.040 there's my stance on it jesus christ i i have no idea what your stance is that was awesome though

01:40:03.340 um my stance is i i take it down i appreciate that like if you were i don't know like i understand

01:40:10.520 what you're saying and you're being honest about it there's a lot of people who aren't honest like

01:40:14.620 they call themselves anarcho-capitalists and they're just not so it's just like yeah if you're

01:40:20.440 gonna call yourself an anarcho-capitalist and you're not then shut up but if you're not and you're just

01:40:25.240 like well look i don't really see any other way around this and oh yeah like this is for the

01:40:31.140 betterment of how i see i think i will be better off in the long run because of this way hold on

01:40:35.720 hold on the implication there is that the argument i'm making is not anarcho-capitalist i think that

01:40:39.540 if you're defending disney's special rights while small business doesn't have those same rights

01:40:43.340 then you are not an anarcho-capitalist no no no no because i do not think churches should be taxed at

01:40:48.440 all and i don't even like mega churches like i don't know what joel austin's tax tax exemption is

01:40:54.080 who are they who are they competing with in the fucking free market that's actually making it so

01:40:57.560 it's an unwell they have done like jerry falwell did a ton of fucking warmongering and was able to

01:41:03.500 reach tons of people without getting taxed at all all this you know uh all this like bump up

01:41:09.640 technically the the thing would be they would not tax the mega churches and they would be taxing like

01:41:14.160 all your that would be a better metaphor that would be the metaphor that's going on okay well

01:41:18.280 i not really i mean it's not like we're talking about theme parks you're talking about businesses

01:41:22.760 in general you're not just talking about theme parks and disney being the only theme park

01:41:27.080 like no i'm saying all big all big business i'm i am fine for a total war on any big business that got

01:41:33.080 to stay open during lockdowns while the small businesses were shut down like this is my

01:41:36.960 consequence i don't think it's gonna work i think it's gonna back i'm not saying it's gonna work i'm

01:41:41.180 saying fucking break these bitches i don't give a fuck no no no i know but i i know but it's like

01:41:45.720 it's the reparations argument for i mean like kim iverson when she was on your show she said

01:41:51.720 she wants reparations not even just for black people but for irish people and chinese people

01:41:57.440 and white people who are descendants of slaves like okay like it all sounds great but there's no

01:42:03.200 logistic way it's going to work so yeah i'm just like i don't know i don't want to print money if

01:42:09.200 they're going to print money and give it to fucking ukraine in the form of billions of dollars

01:42:12.960 yeah i would rather that money go for reparations for people that got locked yeah i would too but

01:42:16.800 it won't that's the point like once you once they start making these moves but this is an example of

01:42:21.700 where it is working that he is actually targeting a big business that is profit but he's not bringing

01:42:26.160 money back to the floridian people it's not like he's going to break disney up into a million

01:42:30.440 we don't we don't care i want to see them suffer no no that's it but clint was just making that

01:42:37.240 argument so i'm no no i'm not making that argument exactly i'm i'm saying this that any of the big

01:42:41.760 businesses that profited off of lockdowns they can get fucked i am right but you said any of these big

01:42:46.980 businesses instead of sending money to ukraine if we could send money to people and i was agreeing

01:42:51.920 with that point but saying it won't happen okay that was a secondary argument obviously that's not

01:42:56.420 going to happen here disney getting shut down isn't going to isn't going to make it so that some

01:42:59.420 small upstart you know wally world takes over like right like i i'm saying like the only thing that's

01:43:06.420 happening here is a governor has political opposition that he's crushing it's not about

01:43:12.680 economics it's not about making a level playing field it's they disagree with me so fuck them

01:43:17.680 so and you know what though if if if desantis was a libertarian had libertarian by his name

01:43:24.100 i would support this move too because it strengthens your party this is this is why libertarians lose

01:43:29.220 constantly if this is a game of power and he's wielding his power correctly be mad about it cry about it

01:43:35.260 whatever it is what it is that's what's happening is there something to and this is the dave's thing

01:43:40.260 to being consistent of being like no i'll stick by the principles of i even though i hate big big

01:43:47.280 business and i understand they profit off of the government the government coming in and stopping

01:43:52.560 the it it's coming in and stopping the thing it already does if you're going to bring up consistency

01:43:58.440 in this argument you have to acknowledge that the government is not treating these businesses with

01:44:04.100 a consistent metric so i can make this argument and i'm not being inconsistent i'm saying fucking

01:44:11.460 strip the big businesses of their special rights and allow them to try and compete with the smaller

01:44:16.140 businesses that exist why is that un-libertarian right right right but it's not special rights it's

01:44:21.240 the rights that i mean if they were getting it is special well no no no it's what it's supposed to

01:44:26.160 be subsidies are special rights like that's a privilege a subsidy is a privilege yeah being

01:44:32.480 allowed to do what you want with your own property is not a privilege it is in this country well but

01:44:38.080 because they're violating all of your rights i'm just isn't the main isn't the main argument though

01:44:43.260 that like disney is paying lin-manuel miranda to make show tunes that will that will try to get your

01:44:49.100 kids fucked by adults this is kind of what's happening here no i'm being dead ass it's it's

01:44:54.460 hilarious yeah that's i'm trying to get my kids to disney world before we have some like real real

01:45:00.280 deal grooming shit going on like these kind of movies and that's where they're headed to that's

01:45:04.140 what they've said already they said they said like the next 40 movies they're working on they

01:45:07.400 want to have all this gender inclusivity which just means like you know grooming and in the

01:45:12.960 most literal sense of it it's already being rolled out with fucking like this big red piece of

01:45:18.160 shit movie that just came out i watched it it was awful and then this other one looks terrible oh

01:45:22.220 yeah i was wondering about that one oh it's very fucking horrible please watch it it's hilarious

01:45:27.240 is it horrible as a movie or is it horrible both all right so i'm gonna make the autistic

01:45:32.280 libertarian argument here because i think the only thing that kept vaccine mandates and mask mandates

01:45:39.420 as long as we had them was the government like you notice as soon as you know we don't need masks

01:45:44.960 on airplanes anymore everyone's like well fuck it we're done with it then so like this idea that

01:45:50.340 we're not up here they're not yeah well it's massachusetts you guys are fucking retarded

01:45:55.420 but like in general the market is going to correct this stuff unless the government is standing in the

01:46:01.940 way so like there's this argument that we need the government to correct the market in the right

01:46:06.760 direction i'm all for government impeding government all for that that's like right that's

01:46:11.100 why i was for blocking the uh the vaccine mandate on business i was for like a state saying fuck you

01:46:17.140 to the federal government yes this is this is this is we're getting right back to the what i think is

01:46:22.520 the biggest blind spot that libertarians have via esg these big businesses are not capitalist

01:46:29.740 enterprise at all no i know but i think i think reed is correct in that if they're pushing this this

01:46:36.220 far the market i was going toward the disney angle like all this fucking shit that disney is pushing

01:46:41.100 yeah the market is going to be dumping it like crazy they're gonna be like no it's already happening

01:46:47.080 netflix just lost a shit ton of money and disney plus is losing as well because of that that's that's

01:46:53.760 because elon fucking tweeted about him i don't even know if that's really true and and they are

01:46:57.760 also losing subscribers but i'm not sure that it's because of the woke shit i don't really know

01:47:01.140 but the problem is with esg it's no longer about what the users want it's about what funding is

01:47:06.880 willing to to you know what they're willing to back so like a black rock and the vanguard and all

01:47:11.020 these boys they'll only buy your stock if you're doing woke shit so all of these big businesses are

01:47:15.580 going along with what these fucking globalist marxist fascist fucking dictators want to see in the

01:47:22.640 product line despite what the consumer wants yeah yeah i i don't disagree with that but i think

01:47:27.140 the point is what you just said that this is not what the consumer wants like to such a degree that

01:47:32.940 i think there will be a correction here because it's so ridiculous and it's not going to be correction

01:47:37.560 they're they're dealing they do but i mean you're talking about profits and all that we're dealing

01:47:43.260 with fake money nobody gives a fuck anymore this is about like clint said this is about the message

01:47:47.060 and they're willing to pay for it it is it is but it's also about the esg and the in the way that

01:47:51.540 they're actually getting their funding is from their stock value being buoyed because of these big

01:47:55.480 you know multi-trillion dollar funding sources which obviously a handful of fucking uh you know

01:48:01.980 christian mothers that stopped taking their kid to disneyland isn't going to really you know stem

01:48:06.220 the tide now it doesn't matter we we gave these we gave those companies trillions of dollars we just

01:48:11.280 printed it and just bullshit fake money and they poured it right back into shit that we hate so what

01:48:15.700 do we do honestly clint here's like i kind of there's a part of me that agrees with you because it

01:48:20.380 i look back at the the vax passport thing and it would be hard for me to argue that that did not

01:48:26.800 have an effect on the entire nation looking at vax or like the entire looking at florida and going okay

01:48:32.380 if they're not doing it and they're not like literally all dying right now why are we doing

01:48:38.760 we could still be locked down if it weren't for fucking desantis i would not i would not be surprised

01:48:42.820 i think that's a real possibility and so the the to that it would be what happens because of this

01:48:49.780 does he start a chain reaction to a lot of other this is this is a consequentialist argument which

01:48:55.460 libertarians especially ace and fucking drew and all these people have hated me for making but i am

01:49:00.380 going to continue to make them because i think i'm right i think that when desantis does these status

01:49:04.560 things to basically claw back a little bit of our liberty i'm okay with it because the consequence is

01:49:10.740 that a bunch of people didn't have to get fired from their jobs in florida because desantis stood

01:49:15.040 up like that that is meaningful that gives liberty in the real time and also the the inequitable

01:49:20.720 treatment of big businesses in this country or versus small businesses uh rey brought it up in the chat

01:49:25.540 and this is a this is a counter that i had that i need to bring up now because it's really important

01:49:29.960 if big business had been treated the same as small business we would have never locked down

01:49:35.260 that's true if you if you couldn't have had the grocery stores open or amazon delivering and all

01:49:40.100 these other fucks if they had actually suffered the way small businesses did lockdowns couldn't

01:49:44.780 have happened because the big business lobbyists would have said no no no no no we're not doing

01:49:48.840 this i agree with that so that that inequitable treatment needs to be remedied no i agree businesses

01:49:54.540 need to be broken like i really believe that and i know this is a very uh you know it seems

01:49:59.580 un-libertarian to say this because i'm using the government to fight business this sounds

01:50:04.380 completely anathema for anarcho-capitalists but i'm telling you it's our only hope

01:50:09.120 would this be the same would you make the same argument to whenever like teddy roosevelt did all

01:50:14.180 the trust the trust breaking and the you know the monopoly i don't know i don't know the

01:50:19.720 circumstances it's very similar so no teddy roosevelt was a progressive they're all the

01:50:25.860 reconstruction there was all this subsidization of railroad companies and coal companies and

01:50:31.900 oil companies and telegraph companies yeah everything created a bunch of monopolies right

01:50:36.820 right so then teddy roosevelt came in and busted it all up yeah like if you read the progressive era

01:50:43.660 by murray rothbard he's explaining this is all because the government you know pushed it all into

01:50:48.920 that one position and a free mark if you had a free market never would have gotten there and the

01:50:54.240 only way to diffuse it is through free market solutions but yeah but busting up those busting up those

01:51:00.380 companies like directly with the hand of government is a little bit different than saying hey you can't

01:51:05.140 you know keep your patent on three circles disney you know so fuck you let's see what happens next

01:51:10.880 i don't know i mean it's kind of the same top is just really excited because he can finally draw

01:51:15.500 like a bunch of mickey shit that's all i'm drawing now that's it well that's he made a point in the

01:51:22.300 chat there's like there's there is a libertarian argument for getting rid of their ip by the way like

01:51:27.080 that is oh yeah for sure yeah yeah fuck well oh jc made a uh pointed out in here and i haven't read

01:51:33.900 mises so i don't fucking know but he said this is unironically why mises said he'd rather have

01:51:37.620 fascism over communism it's this point i guess if saying basically because at least fashion they would

01:51:44.260 keep everybody even where communism it does have it plays favorites to certain people and that's why

01:51:50.620 we have a combination of both fascism and communism right now so we have the worst aspects of both

01:51:57.040 and and i really think that we're gonna have to do like this is this is the same exact argument i

01:52:01.900 had with ace and drew where i was saying guys if we don't allow state power to fight federal power

01:52:07.880 we're looking at fucking civil war yeah that's that's a different argument though state power

01:52:12.180 fighting federal power i agree i think it is a different kind of even though i do see completely

01:52:16.920 different like no no it's not it's not because you're continuing to differentiate between the federal

01:52:21.840 government and big business and i'm not going to make that differentiation the way you are

01:52:25.860 that's fine but i'm just saying it is a different argument it isn't it isn't it's only different

01:52:30.880 because you're not accepting the fact that big business is now a part of the fucking federal

01:52:34.480 government they are if you were to accept that you would see the cia the cia has been writing

01:52:38.620 disney's movies since pinocchio so sure yeah get on that shit i do love this just a little bit of

01:52:45.720 like a fucking penis they're trying to turn us gay back then so nah dude you don't remember that

01:52:51.780 that clip of them in the bar and all that there the the wolf goes into the bar and and some dude

01:52:56.820 convinces him to sell pinocchio to him they're going to go to pleasure island but they don't come

01:53:00.860 back as boys yeah okay whatever that's like fucking 19 1930 they come back as democrats as donkeys

01:53:08.860 yeah yeah probably like this close to going full q anon on it right here man we're done no i'm

01:53:14.940 saying watch the movie it's insane i watched it with my kids like a couple months back i'm like

01:53:18.720 fuck that that's crazy dude uh jc levity he was like libertarians are the fake noose in the nascar

01:53:24.540 garage i just think that's that's a tweet but you almost convinced me clint because if you do think

01:53:34.420 about it i i was coming into this as like the autistic libertarian of like no you can't do this

01:53:40.000 to businesses but when you do think about like and it's it's hard because they they they masquerade

01:53:45.960 as a private entity as a human rights organization and they and they are also they're also you know

01:53:55.660 being in you know given the the duty of carrying someone else made this argument but forgive me so

01:54:02.460 i'm kind of parroting someone but they may they're carrying on the duty of like bringing fables and

01:54:08.780 myths and like a bunch of the fundamental things that like carry society from one generation to the

01:54:14.360 next there they have been put in charge of that and it's a really like it's a sacred role and it

01:54:19.900 granted it's the parents fault for letting these people continue to watch this shit or letting their

01:54:23.560 kids continue to watch this shit but it's like it's it's it's such a daunting problem that if like if

01:54:29.680 we don't fight back now i really fear for what that means and and i'm willing to do some dramatic

01:54:35.620 things in the meantime because the alternative is fucking war and i don't want to do that and like

01:54:39.540 that so this is the exact same argument this is why i said it's the exact same argument that i had when

01:54:43.800 it came to desantis fending off the the uh it's it's a more good i i just think that the the consumers

01:54:52.000 as a whole i think they actually have more power than they have more power than desantis but see this is

01:54:58.000 where i don't agree with you dude when it comes to esg the consumer is like they are they like c team

01:55:03.960 it's like it's like it goes fucking esg it goes black rock vanguard then it goes federal government

01:55:08.440 and then it goes i understand i understand i think i think there's i think yeah well the consumer is

01:55:14.820 but anything that they put out they it will be consumed

01:55:18.940 but and honestly it's it's like the midwit thing we were talking about i know we joked about on the

01:55:26.540 the cyclone showers but they would be the ones to really get like i would really want to get rid of

01:55:31.980 truly because they would consume no matter what it doesn't matter what's given to them

01:55:37.080 they see it coming from the top as this is good and then they're like okay this is good i agree with

01:55:43.020 that but like my argument is sort of that things get pushed so far that you start seeing more and

01:55:48.580 more people getting red pill like with the covid shit that has been the case and you can see that

01:55:53.640 people people that are like even in the role of like an individual like you can actually like

01:55:58.280 do something and fight it like well this is this is the result no i think this is the result is

01:56:04.700 somebody like the santus and people and a lot of people in florida going yeah we we want this and

01:56:09.740 this this is the acceleration this argument that reed was making earlier today in his truck where he

01:56:13.360 was saying i would almost prefer that the mass still may be mandated because it was radicalizing a

01:56:17.700 lot of people um yeah and don't you don't you guys i don't know don't you just enjoy the chaos of it

01:56:23.880 though like a lot of i so i'll tell you uh when i was in new york i worked for the mta and i was rooting

01:56:30.640 against their downfall like literally i'm i'm getting paid from these guys and i'm like fuck these guys

01:56:35.900 and i'll speak out against them and i'm like i hope that they crash but something about maybe i'm an

01:56:41.500 accelerationist or maybe i'm insane but something about this like this reset of of the corporate

01:56:48.280 the the corporate entity rather than a reset of the general public just makes me curious like what

01:56:55.320 would happen if we completely re like we just started from zero and let disney crash who's telling

01:57:01.100 the stories now it could be worse it could be better i don't know let's fucking go now because

01:57:06.120 he's questioning so he's definitely cute honestly no i'm being serious if you know if they went away

01:57:12.860 yeah i mean what would happen next i you know what these companies i hate what's going on be forced

01:57:17.780 they have to be forced to compete on an even playing field and if that means that they have to get the

01:57:22.420 same fucked up treatment that small businesses get i'm fine with that because you cannot allow

01:57:26.900 these big businesses to continue to grow while everybody else starves and suffers like it is just it's

01:57:32.720 an unsustainable i kind of disagree with that on that because i think if you know what i think if

01:57:38.440 you take that to its logical conclusion then you are just going to have mass starvation because it

01:57:42.260 just sounds like communism to me in that case yeah well i don't even i don't i don't disagree with you

01:57:47.620 as much as i think you think i disagree with you right same yeah like i i don't see the government

01:57:54.620 as the solution here i see the same problem you do but i think it's because like give me a free

01:58:00.900 market solution well no no i don't know if there is a solution to be honest at all because it seems

01:58:07.420 like it's an evolutionary trait of humanity and i was talking about this in this clip i put out on

01:58:12.320 twitter that that brave new world approach of give us what we want and we will give up our liberties

01:58:17.780 i don't know if there is any way out of that like this is why i'm choosing to move to new hampshire

01:58:22.980 i'll just go live out in the woods like fuck it because so here's a great example um when i was driving

01:58:29.060 my truck about a month ago into montana i lost my wallet in idaho at a truck stop and i got like

01:58:34.940 500 miles to the next stop realized i didn't have my wallet and i was fucked i was like and i ended up

01:58:41.160 getting it back i called the truck stop and they found it out in the parking lot but i was thinking

01:58:45.080 like imagine if i had a microchip in my wrist and it has my wallet my medical information i could start

01:58:52.740 my car with it i can unlock my door to my house oh shit reads the transhumanist now well no i'm saying

01:58:58.260 people will automatically choose this there's nothing you can do it doesn't matter what laws

01:59:03.220 you pass doesn't matter what incentives you create people are going to choose to go down this road of

01:59:09.680 becoming one uh homogenous blob like i don't i don't see a big homo which is why i don't why i look

01:59:19.860 forward to no like i i won't i often wish i were born earlier just because i don't want to live in a

01:59:27.960 world like that but i honestly don't think there's any way to stop it i think i i don't know if i'm

01:59:33.820 going to choose it i think there i think there would be a populist movement against that i think

01:59:39.980 there is i don't think so not if there's not a life if there's not a populist revolt against lockdowns

01:59:47.360 i don't think you're going to see a populist revolt about like this fucking vaccine there was a

01:59:52.180 populist revolt against lockdown not revolt but if you look at florida they literally did go no

01:59:57.120 this this vaccine passport thing right like still i mean like half the country roughly supported it

02:00:02.840 and it was something the government was going to have to ram through but if it becomes like hey you

02:00:09.040 can just put this on your phone and it makes it easier to watch your movies and it makes it easier

02:00:13.120 for you to get food delivered to your front door and you know as long as they just make life easier

02:00:19.360 no one is going to turn it down they're always like comfort is the number one uh you know desire

02:00:27.220 of humanity it just right right but this this generation i don't think every generation has been

02:00:32.100 like that that's i mean i think it's once they've tasted it like once they've tasted comfort that's all

02:00:38.380 they want like maybe maybe but i think like the combining man and machine though that that seems very

02:00:45.440 against human nature man i do think i agree with cole on this and i think a lot of people would push

02:00:50.140 back i think there's right now give it 10 years 20 years 30 years there's also there's also growing

02:00:56.240 dissent and and kind of the populist revolt that cole was talking about when it came to the vaccines

02:01:00.560 where i think that as and you may not like this because i i don't really care for it either but there

02:01:06.140 is this kind of religious revivalism that's happening right now yeah and i think a lot of those people

02:01:10.540 will will add to the ranks of those that are pushing back against you know chipping yeah i think it's a

02:01:15.140 temporary pushback but it'll subside after enough decades i'm sorry but i think with the internet

02:01:22.680 with the dude think of what these religious extremists thought like 50 years ago about

02:01:28.100 technology like it's always been like you know no you can't have a phone like when i was a kid like

02:01:33.040 christians were all like no you can't have internet access you know now they just all

02:01:36.980 yeah but when you get to the when you get to the point that like like kids suicides are skyrocketing

02:01:43.080 and drug overdoses are skyrocketing i think i think that even the most like cucked fucking

02:01:49.360 brainwashed population will eventually snap out of it to some extent not everybody obviously not

02:01:54.620 temporarily though like like this is the thing like they they've given up on the vaccine passport

02:01:59.400 approach the elite because they're like okay this isn't going to work this time but they're not done

02:02:04.440 like they're going to keep pushing in different areas so it's like the wave goes up to the shore

02:02:08.920 then it stops and recedes this is actually where i get more optimistic because i do not believe the

02:02:15.140 federal government is going to be surviving in 20 years like i really think that the the budgetary

02:02:20.320 issues that they've created during the lockdowns are going to break them eventually and that's the

02:02:25.420 thing yeah but then we bring up the world economic forum and just say like well then they don't give a

02:02:29.800 fuck they'll just be like okay america's out of the way we pick the next one it's china okay china

02:02:34.520 you're the next one and so we're going to do what you want to do you're going to be the next uh

02:02:38.720 economic superpower yeah i mean if if china if china has imperialist you know desires which they

02:02:44.920 haven't demonstrated as of yet they they haven't shown that they want to be what america was but but

02:02:49.560 i but i but i think that with with the internet though it's like there will always be pushback to

02:02:56.680 them more than they than has ever been before because they can actually you can hear it there's uh

02:03:03.620 documentation there's archives and there's always going to be people like standing up and saying no

02:03:08.640 no you're full of shit and you can find they have a bigger voice now than ever and so i think someone

02:03:14.540 mentioned in the chat but the the tactics they're using are becoming less and less efficient of garnering

02:03:21.980 the minds of the middle that they want to get and i but how many how many generations

02:03:28.760 how many more generations do you want to do you want to forfeit for a free market solution and now

02:03:35.940 listen i'm i'm a libertarian i'm talking about free market solution i'm just saying i i think i i

02:03:40.180 honestly think it's going to be a populist upright i think there will be i legitimately think and as much

02:03:46.360 as some fucking libertarians might not like it i think there is going to be a at some point either a

02:03:51.980 civil war or hopefully not but i think there's going to be something to where it is a we're with

02:03:58.520 like no you can't continue to put your boot on us and the people that are basically the boot and the

02:04:06.560 the populace will fight back this is why i think secession will happen um just naturally and it's

02:04:12.920 either going to be because of a civil war or because of a national bankruptcy where the states just say

02:04:17.440 well we're not going to carry our portion of this debt we didn't want it we didn't want to go down

02:04:22.180 this path yeah y'all motherfuckers dragged us here so we're out you know like i think that i honestly

02:04:26.680 think that's what's going to happen but i'm not as like it's actually surprising to me that that reed

02:04:31.440 is pushing back against what i'm what i'm saying here because it you're essentially like your conclusion

02:04:37.180 is like we're fucked anyways so like why why wouldn't we use the state to buy us some time if that's the

02:04:43.420 case i don't understand well no i think the new hampshire model is working so but but that but

02:04:51.640 that works for you it doesn't it doesn't work for fucking like all of my relatives in california you

02:04:56.900 know like i'm trying to buy some time for people that aren't me like i agree with you i i'm gonna

02:05:00.440 move and i'm gonna be okay and i'm gonna fucking hide out or fight i don't i mean dude i i don't think

02:05:05.020 california can be saved or bought anytime california is fucked well i i mean florida is florida is

02:05:12.820 buying itself some time with these decisions so that's why and also also i want to mention

02:05:16.780 because someone said public's uprising is not going to happen if it hasn't yet i would say a

02:05:20.900 popular uprising has happened just by the sheer fact of people moving out of the most insane states

02:05:29.560 and moving to a mass movement of not only just random people but influencers and big people moving

02:05:36.560 and like we can't even yeah before we're for the status they could be going like i need to clarify

02:05:42.260 something too so yeah i i see i see the populist uprising not necessarily being like a fucking

02:05:48.740 revolt as we were thinking as you think of a populist uprising this is kind of like massive people

02:05:53.820 going no we're not saying is i think it's just more like a you would have a centralized yeah soft

02:05:59.660 secession like florida going no we're just not going to do what you want anymore federal government

02:06:04.020 we're going to go against you and if you don't like it you start the shit and then yeah you're not

02:06:09.720 making me hard anymore i also want to point out like i i'm talking when we say like do you support

02:06:15.840 what desantis is doing or whatever like i have fully embraced kaufman knightism or whatever you

02:06:21.920 want to call it like i don't give a fuck what florida does or what california does like i want them

02:06:28.340 to do whatever they want to do like this was like would i do this if i were in desantis's place

02:06:33.120 it's like when it comes to like am i gonna go protest what he's doing or whatever like no i

02:06:38.640 know what i want to do i know what's gonna work for me kind of like what top was saying you know

02:06:43.040 like he cares about his family which i think you should by the way top like i think you should care

02:06:47.520 about your family and your life more than i intend to yeah and i also and i also think that top has

02:06:55.200 higher time preference because he's got little kids at home and i'm saying i need this fucking fixed

02:06:59.460 like i need this fixed now and and i don't blame him for that and i guess i think i'm taking kind

02:07:04.440 of that outlook when i talk about this stuff is like i know how bad this is gonna get and i'm trying

02:07:09.680 to do anything in my power and if it you know even if it's lip service to some fucking state of shit

02:07:14.540 that desantis is doing like i'm gonna do it because i would rather have more time for more people to

02:07:19.220 prepare themselves for the fucking economic fallout from this insanity that we've permitted

02:07:23.200 throughout my lifetime or the past hundred plus years um so i don't know i i think that's that's

02:07:28.680 kind of my stance on it i think we've really drawn this binary image where it's florida or

02:07:34.660 california and i think that there are states that are very different like you know maine right next

02:07:40.940 to new hampshire they're not like on the verge of some totalitarian collapse in maine but it is

02:07:47.340 like florida is what the third largest state by or maybe the fourth largest state by population or

02:07:53.520 something like it's i mean it's third i think it's just the best comparison i think it's yeah

02:07:58.180 i'm glad the biggest the biggest one that can you can see crazy background noise sorry yeah

02:08:04.700 can you just turn your game down dude like it's it's been my wife's taking a shower sorry

02:08:09.140 she's right there okay but still but still your your gain is super high top if you just turn your

02:08:17.560 game down now your mic is off we can't hear you at all which is kind of nice is this better a

02:08:23.000 little better still super loud how about now turn your volume down all the way yeah it sounds like

02:08:30.360 you're uh you're driving the mta train again i don't know this microphone's fucked up i gotta get

02:08:36.920 a new one all right uh go ahead and talk that's better i was gonna say i'm glad that there is a

02:08:41.620 place like florida that's doing this stuff and i'm glad there's a place like new hampshire yeah

02:08:45.340 because 100 that's the i i agree philosophically obviously what you know people like read and and

02:08:51.620 what new hampshire is doing but it's just not what the case is right now so in order to get to new

02:08:57.680 hampshire i feel like florida is a nice place to start and i think targeting disney is is a very

02:09:03.300 interesting way to get there so i like to see the collapse i would i would also want to say

02:09:09.380 like there's a difference between agreeing with what someone does and thinking it's based like i thought

02:09:13.780 it was based when putin invaded uh when he invaded ukraine it was based it was like holy shit he's

02:09:20.900 actually doing it all right it took i feel the same way about desantis like i i don't yeah i'm not

02:09:25.380 like in my ivory tower like oh desantis take you i mean like yeah i think it's fucking hilarious and

02:09:30.620 kind of based to watch him do that uh for the record i would prefer to see desantis going to war with

02:09:35.960 amazon like jeff bezos what he does with washington post the fact that they doxed lives at tiktok like i think

02:09:42.800 jeff bezos should be should be fucking suffering the wrath of desantis more than disney even i would

02:09:47.940 but i'm fine i'm fine with them taking uh like a stand against one of these big businesses that is

02:09:53.380 implementing critical race theory and and esg and all this fucking terrible nonsense on on upon us

02:10:00.500 like against our will and i like that's that's really as simple as it gets i know that kind of

02:10:04.920 makes it overly black and white but i really think that like we have to fight back and because so many

02:10:10.040 americans aren't privy to what's actually happening i'm like well fuck it man if like

02:10:15.200 if desantis is going to take the stand then great you know like i'll take i'll take whatever i can get

02:10:19.000 like this almost comes down to like a thing of if we are in a certain type of war if we're in type

02:10:25.220 of war against the state and then and if you see just big businesses as a spy or a traitor for this

02:10:32.680 like who you see is on your side but really they're working for the other team and libertarian

02:10:37.540 just like nope they're not traitors they're they're still on our side and the whole time

02:10:41.800 the whole time they're going back to the to your enemy and just fraternizing with them taking all

02:10:48.900 their taking everything and doing what they want to do i just want to point out there is a sliding

02:10:53.020 scale of that because i don't think i'm like drew or i think i'm like probably closer than clint is to

02:10:59.420 them but then there's drew and then there's also people who are way way way more that way than drew

02:11:05.340 that are like supporting vaccine mandates or whatever and like you know being like yeah the

02:11:10.280 private companies i love this i stand with private companies and i you know like drew is at the point

02:11:15.300 where he was like boycotting companies that were doing right yeah you know so i there is let's just

02:11:20.700 use ace let's use ace as the as the that argument because i feel like drew is not as extreme as ace wasn't

02:11:27.900 there like there's people way worse than ace yeah there are private company there absolutely are like

02:11:32.820 there are there are people like ace doesn't think you can't criticize private companies there are

02:11:37.300 people who are like you shouldn't even say anything about a company because it's private and you

02:11:41.860 shouldn't have anything you know fuck that like you're absolutely speaking speaking of of gay

02:11:46.960 the mises caucus just endorsed todd hagopian one of those people but won't endorse josh smith but i

02:11:53.480 carry on reed i'm sorry yeah no we can we can wrap it we are too like we just said you'll need to wrap

02:11:59.480 up this this has become the second longest episode i think so yeah but i have more to say god damn it

02:12:05.500 i wish we had no cashier to talk i would like to hear his meth head take on this no it's just it's

02:12:11.400 so rare that we all you know have different opinions on something so i thought this was worthwhile

02:12:15.520 and and honestly like even though i come across very aggro about this it's not that i don't respect

02:12:21.340 your guys opinion in fact i understand it thoroughly like i i completely get it it's just that

02:12:25.680 like i really think that this is our best hope if you don't want to go the super radical route the

02:12:32.320 you know plotting revolutions route like after going to new hampshire just yeah well yeah of course

02:12:37.440 that but but also for it sorry no it's fine and i and i also love the idea of having you know 50

02:12:44.480 uh laboratories of innovation and allowing new hampshire to try its own shit to try and defend liberty and

02:12:50.660 florida going a different route with it and i hope that there's more states that start to

02:12:54.620 do this um you know alabama arkansas any of these or at least just people or at least just people

02:12:59.960 going i'll just do it i'll i'll get with my family and me and my family will just us do something to

02:13:06.560 where we are going to be okay even if everything else falls around us we're in a position that we can

02:13:12.740 you know rely on each other not even have to use uh the free state project or you know a florida

02:13:18.040 governor to help help me out you're working on your car in the background i think that's but like

02:13:24.180 you said i think i i want there to be as a free almost like a free market of getting to a free

02:13:30.640 market of like yeah let's take as many different i i because i think there is somebody and remember

02:13:35.380 there was that well there was i remember that there was that argument of like should we focus

02:13:39.300 on one thing or should we all try to it's like i think there is the best is to have there's enough

02:13:44.100 people to have enough like and from the from the post-libertarian argument i will make in one

02:13:50.360 one regard if you if you're going to try kind of the stateless society which is new hampshire's path

02:13:56.760 at least that seems like what where they're trying to go with it versus florida which is going kind of

02:14:02.000 the authoritarian right but more liberty oriented path like there's a chance that the federal government

02:14:08.340 looks at new hampshire and says hey you stateless bitches we're coming in there and we're fucking

02:14:12.380 shutting you down whereas desantis if he was still in power would probably be like national guard

02:14:17.340 stand up like we're gonna we're gonna defend the people here so like i would like to have both of

02:14:22.380 those options in case the federal government goes after one or the either and and perhaps adam hussein

02:14:27.720 versus the the mujahideen so no and and if you really if you really want to be almost hyperbolic and

02:14:35.500 kind of sound really fucking kind of i don't know really dumb but it kind of makes sense it's like

02:14:41.360 would you as a libertarian if you were back in like whenever you were back in the 1776 would you

02:14:48.020 say like no we shouldn't fight like have a revolt against the king because they would honestly i gotta

02:14:53.840 admit like when you look back at it i i mean it would be a hard choice at the beginning of that war

02:14:59.500 like exactly and we're gonna go die in a bunch of fields over this like yes and that and that's the

02:15:05.800 thing is like and you would also as a libertarian a lot i feel like a lot of end caps would be going

02:15:10.860 i mean we can't be this this is just like using the state to fight the state we shouldn't be using

02:15:16.420 the state this is no no no we need to be we we should we should just have our own thing in the

02:15:21.020 wilderness and i just gotta cut in and clint i know you look i'm just saying like people keep

02:15:26.380 saying that libertarians are against the state fighting the state and i think that's a very very

02:15:31.260 very very small group of libertarians that actually think that like most libertarians

02:15:36.380 are completely fine with using the state to fight the state it's when it's state fighting business i

02:15:41.280 know clint i understand your argument i'm just saying that's where it gets fuzzy to libertarians

02:15:45.600 that's like state governments fighting the federal government i think there's very very few libertarians

02:15:52.520 and if you and here's the thing is like if you don't think that back during the revolution

02:15:56.600 that the people on the american side and the people on the british side were going after

02:16:00.300 the tories and the loyalists and or whatever the fuck and and going after their businesses i think

02:16:06.940 there's something i mean i feel like that happened 100 there's a great parallel here with the east

02:16:11.740 india trading company you know is that a private company bro just so never mind it's not but

02:16:17.720 no no no you're i just no i think it was a serious point and no it wasn't no and yeah it was just as

02:16:24.120 much of a government as the crown was at the time right i i stand by it that i think that the

02:16:30.380 the the founders of this country would absolutely be aghast that we've allowed it to get to this

02:16:35.880 point so like sure absolutely like any anything that we do in terms of defense um i'm okay with

02:16:43.080 and and again like if desantis was doing this to a small business i would be outraged and i would be

02:16:48.760 screaming about it if like if small businesses were given autonomy over their property i'd be thrilled

02:16:53.780 and then and i would be horrified if desantis was trying to strip them of it but if they're if

02:16:58.000 he's just going to take these big businesses that profited off of lockdowns and fuck with them i'm

02:17:02.440 like okay you know like dude adam has a good question hey hey grab adam's super chat he's actually

02:17:08.800 the argument for session becomes a reality would it hinder the libertarian movement plus what would

02:17:14.480 the anti-war crowd do with the wars between the political uh political o-lines here at home i guess

02:17:19.900 the political lines are here at home alignments probably yeah yeah um it i think secession would

02:17:27.920 not hinder the libertarian movement i think if we i mean i think there's a it's very much easier to

02:17:32.760 take on whatever 50 50 state governments than one federal government i don't think secession would

02:17:40.160 bolster the libertarian movement because we would actually get to see our ideas come to reality and

02:17:45.700 get to like show people like hey californians look how fucking stupid you are for not having moved to

02:17:50.360 new hampshire like i think that would help a lot i do think that there is there is something about

02:17:54.580 the anti-war movement within the libertarian party that is a little bit dangerous in that they are so

02:18:00.480 averse to war like especially the ones that are saying like oh we should be arming like i had one on

02:18:05.580 my show and he's like we should be arming ukraine because the invader is russia and it's that simple

02:18:09.720 and we will always defend those that are being invaded and it's like i am not i am not actually

02:18:15.900 anti-war in the sense that like if you are being oppressed by your government war is just like i'm

02:18:21.780 not saying i want it i don't want it yeah we don't but right that should be very stated that we are all

02:18:28.440 very against any type of bloodshed we would all hope for a peaceful everything peaceful as much as

02:18:34.060 possible but if it comes to it after we just got done doing a genocide bracket right right but

02:18:38.540 war and genocide are making jokes genocides are unnecessary right right but a defense a defensive

02:18:45.200 war may be justified even though we don't want it to happen and the what's going on in ukraine is not

02:18:50.540 a defensive war so and mcgu said non-tribalism would explode libertarian would dissolve i don't think

02:18:56.380 i think the tribalism would could be a pretty ground for libertarianism libertarianism anyways or even

02:19:03.400 that i don't know if it would even be tribalism between states i i think there would be tribalism

02:19:08.200 in the sense of i are states better than your state or whatever but i don't think it would become to

02:19:12.000 the point of like blows between each state just fighting each other because it depends on how big

02:19:16.860 the states aren't i mean the state governments right like you want you want to decentralize as

02:19:21.460 much as possible so you have governments that have less power that's yeah and it also it also

02:19:26.680 depends if the states decide to have an antagonistic relationship with one another if they choose to

02:19:31.120 continue to trade and it's and their and their differences like the difference between i don't

02:19:35.100 know louisiana and arkansas or something isn't so dramatic that they would have to be at odds with

02:19:39.640 one another um so i don't know i mean it's an interesting thought experiment well the the thing

02:19:44.700 is look at and we always talk about look move to somalia well look at somalia they they actually did

02:19:50.260 have a part where their government broke down and it was literally actual warlords that took over

02:19:55.320 and had different secessions and they became more peaceful at that time than they were before like

02:20:00.720 they were and i think there was in america even if we had a hot war civil secession type of war i

02:20:08.740 still think after it ends the i don't think people want to fight like actually one bloodshed between for

02:20:15.240 a long period of time after even just after for their most of their life being in peace i i i just think

02:20:24.200 even i don't even just hell i think i think you are you are downplaying the the amount of anger that

02:20:32.020 has been bred through these lockdowns i really do think so i understand that no no no i'm not saying

02:20:36.940 i would say there would still be it could be a hot war but i'm saying after a hot war is done i don't

02:20:41.560 think there could be i think after the blood has been shed i don't think they're going to continue to

02:20:46.380 want the bloodshed after like for their their family for their kids and continue i mean the civil war

02:20:51.860 only lasted what five years three four years i think four years four years and that was i mean

02:20:58.460 and it ended like and after that they were they basically got along i mean yeah but that was also

02:21:04.940 because it was like it was two governments that were were handling it or like orchestrating it

02:21:10.700 whereas a civil war in this environment would be truly a populist uprising it wouldn't i don't think

02:21:17.360 that you would have like desantis is the general of the south that would be ridiculous i mean it's not

02:21:23.300 possible but i wouldn't mind another like even if it was just a split session of one half the country

02:21:28.740 goes away and the other half's like i mean i still think that's i think anytime you split into

02:21:35.540 and you balkanize it's going to be better in the long term for liberty it might it might be a

02:21:43.400 maybe there is a low point where it gets worse for a bit but i think anytime the the government

02:21:50.700 gets smaller in any way it's going to be easier to get rid of it i mean just like if you had a huge

02:21:56.720 pile of shit in your house yeah you couldn't get a shovel big enough to take it all out at once but

02:22:02.100 what cole is saying is you have to decentralize that pile of shit you have to waffle stomp it you guys

02:22:08.840 just have to put both of the pieces of shit on the ground this is easy um anyways there there is

02:22:14.360 there is one one caveat that has to be included in that you can say that it's easier if you

02:22:19.100 however if you are making big business any bigger the government is not getting smaller because the

02:22:25.880 government is is a product of those big businesses because the lobbyists the taxation everything else so

02:22:30.640 it's like i really think that if you're going to collapse this system the big businesses have to go

02:22:36.700 down with the government and i this is like a revelatory thing that i've come to over the past

02:22:41.720 year or so that i really think that these big businesses are fucking evil and i can't even

02:22:46.440 believe i'm saying it because i used to be one of the libertarians that was like big business is great

02:22:50.520 and i and i still think that big business if it's done via meritocratic means is fucking great

02:22:56.580 but these are not meritocracies these are fucking crony pieces of shit yeah i agree with you

02:23:02.240 everything except i think to bring them both down if one goes down it's the government i agree that

02:23:09.080 like the government is what enables the big business to maintain actually monopoly yeah i'm

02:23:14.640 with reed on that one so like if you have to disable one i'm more i lean more toward disabling

02:23:19.960 the government oh certainly business and then they have they have the fucking weapons of course i

02:23:24.460 side with that yeah yeah but so your best friend pete pete asked this question on twitter maybe a week

02:23:29.980 or so ago and it's a good question who are you accusing us of being which one are you accusing

02:23:34.800 of all of you guys clint um and the the question was uh if you if you could dismantle or abolish

02:23:43.100 one of these entities which one would it be and it was disney or uh something like vaccine mandates

02:23:49.620 or something like that and a lot of like i think like 75 shows vaccine mandates and he's like well

02:23:55.620 that's the wrong answer and i think he's 100 right it's it's all about culture this is why we're here

02:23:59.860 this is why we're doing this now i think culture is partially down downhill from government i think

02:24:05.500 it's a little mixture like i think the culture has changed over the last two years because of what

02:24:11.940 the government's done i don't think it's just 100 i agree that maybe the question wasn't if you

02:24:17.160 could abolish but if you could like take over the government degrades culture wait was it if you

02:24:22.700 could take over the government or disney yeah as something to do with as far as like the laws that

02:24:28.420 they were making if you could if you could write your own laws like that were affecting vaccine

02:24:32.740 mandates or something or if you could affect the messaging of disney oh no i agree with that that's

02:24:38.160 a different yeah that's a different question that's a completely different question like if you can

02:24:42.280 and that's what i think the problem is when i was getting back getting back to what i was saying

02:24:46.060 earlier that there's no way to really avoid this it's a cultural issue that people choose comfort

02:24:52.220 and sedation over you know fulfillment or whatever like i mean i'll admit there's a religious component

02:24:59.000 here that a lot of non-religious people don't seem to be able to you know they need some sort of

02:25:05.520 religion in order to have it i'm one of the people that just doesn't need that but i accept that a lot of

02:25:09.480 people do so they don't care about living a full life being fulfilled they care about you know

02:25:16.120 stimulation and that's it so that needs to change that's a cultural thing so if you could affect the

02:25:21.820 culture yeah then you would change so much more like if you fix the people you don't need to fix

02:25:27.920 the government eventually like the government will dissolve if the people are fixed i don't think the

02:25:33.540 government can fix the people that's all i'm saying i think the better question would be like

02:25:37.720 would you rather be able to control what disney puts out or control the curriculum in public schools

02:25:43.420 in which case i'd be like public schools and when it and when it comes and when it comes to again if

02:25:48.780 it was like do you want to abolish disney or amazon or do you want to abolish the federal reserve like

02:25:54.000 well the answer is so like i still think that the government is the root but there there are now

02:26:00.340 because this this governmental cancer is so deep we now have these enormous goliath businesses that are

02:26:06.320 also cancerous and i agree with that right i i think the the the thing to go after is the

02:26:14.380 government though like and i'm not i'm not gonna freak out when they go after some big business

02:26:19.600 because like fuck them but at the you know i am going to focus my uh my attacks on the government

02:26:27.480 because the governments are what have enabled the businesses to get where they are and they're what

02:26:30.920 keep them in their position oh my god guys if you take the government down the business you see that

02:26:36.540 one comment where you look no no no i just i just remembered something that's really important and

02:26:41.880 this i really like desantis came out today and did a presser where he said that the uh the pensions for

02:26:48.640 the state of florida they own a shit ton of twitter stock and he said my i intend to look into whether

02:26:54.900 or not we can sue them for breach of fiduciary rights i love that yeah i like that amazing yeah

02:27:02.080 fuck yeah it's wielding power yeah well but but it is but it's also doing it through like quote unquote

02:27:08.260 capitalist means like they they own the stock they are the shareholders like you sold this you allowed

02:27:13.960 them to buy it so now they get to fucking sue you if you breach your fiduciary role to them by not

02:27:19.240 selling the elon i just thought man that's that's now that's like a clean kind of libertarian answer even

02:27:24.300 though yeah even though it is a governor making that call so right right yeah exactly yeah well

02:27:30.060 this is what i mean like people have they've muddied the waters and made it sound like any

02:27:35.860 involvement of government doing anything equals government stepping on private business and i don't

02:27:41.600 agree with that right it comes from both sides the post libertarians are trying to make that argument

02:27:45.960 and then so are like the really autistic nerd libertarians so that they can argue against each other

02:27:51.980 and the bitch when they're not the same arguments like that is completely you know that's a that's

02:27:56.860 all i was trying to say earlier isn't it isn't it crazy how like we've we've ascended past these

02:28:01.700 arguments like i felt like we were arguing a lot with the bitch fuck cucks and now i see their

02:28:06.000 arguments and i just brush them aside and like yeah so like the arguments yeah it's because there's

02:28:12.180 no point in even talking with them it's not even a fundamental debate we've transcended like

02:28:16.380 kokesh came with these talking points and it's kind of like we're so past that we're we're at like

02:28:21.620 we're at a next level where we're we're creating our own factions to argue with other factions that

02:28:26.260 we've created yeah we're creating our own arguments to argue with each other within a faction we've

02:28:31.660 created it's almost like it's uh like fucking controlled opposition like it's it's very very weird

02:28:37.440 the way this shit kind of pops up what's uh hilarious by the way is we had all the big brain talk

02:28:43.720 without adam and we've done longer without him than we did with them that's true welcome that's

02:28:48.440 what he said well hey i really appreciate this what those weights behind toad right there that

02:28:54.180 are neatly stacked that i know he's never lifted that's not true that's not it's not true i'm just

02:29:00.120 autistic about where i placed them uh i just want to say i really appreciate the fact that you guys

02:29:05.920 were willing to have this discussion because i i think that it's a valuable one like this is this is

02:29:10.240 one of the ones that like a real hardliner kind of lulbert would would struggle to have and the

02:29:16.480 fact that you guys are even able to have it you know in an open-minded fashion where i'm not getting

02:29:20.320 upset with any of you guys and i hope you don't feel like i was um dude i'm not even upset at adam

02:29:25.200 even after all the shit he said to me i know like no i know last talking but but i think i think that the

02:29:30.220 reason that we're able to have this is because all of us see like the seriousness of the situation like

02:29:35.820 like this is really dire and and if we're not going to think creatively like i'm not even saying

02:29:40.480 i'm right necessarily i'm just saying like i'm saying i'm right now i'm just kidding of course

02:29:45.080 of course but i'm just saying like i am good with experimenting with different levels of statism to

02:29:51.100 try and buy us some time and and i'm thrilled about what new hampshire is doing and i really hope

02:29:56.200 that they can find some sort of uh pathway to ancapistan like that'd be amazing obviously um but i i'm just

02:30:01.940 grateful that i have this forum to get to like bounce these ideas off you because as i said like

02:30:06.620 i did not i was a big business defender just like three years ago um by the way i've never been a big

02:30:13.060 business i think i was like i've always hated them it's kind of interesting you commie well i think i

02:30:19.720 think there's something about how we and we we got to wrap it up here so because i gotta i gotta get

02:30:24.920 but um but there's something to where we all know the libertarian theory we got it down having an

02:30:31.040 argument about that it's literally providing nothing to us to our viewers to fucking anybody

02:30:35.920 it doesn't like there's someone that can do it better than us and they're doing at mises too

02:30:40.640 they're not but there's also the thing of we're great enough to and actually okay with sitting

02:30:44.560 down and being like okay here's what we know about the libertarian theory but here's where is this

02:30:49.180 going like we we have the at least we can see going hey this isn't like there's something happening

02:30:56.240 in the future and if we just kind of continue on our thing of no we can't do we can't use it

02:31:00.580 it's just it's just going to get worse and then we're just we're like if we genocide the irish does

02:31:05.040 that get us closer to that's why they're not in the bracket man but i mean the consequentialist

02:31:11.840 genocide argument has to be had we haven't had it was you're obviously having to have it if you're

02:31:17.120 not i mean you're afraid it'll make too much sense if you're not willing to have it and frankly

02:31:21.360 it does now that we've had it so well basically the us us doing the theory which is the same as

02:31:26.560 if you're a christian and you're being the person on the corner literally yelling bible verses at

02:31:31.600 people it's literally you're causing nothing and honestly you might be actually doing some

02:31:36.760 negatives to your own movement and it's just like unless you're willing to say okay hey we got to do

02:31:42.380 some type of realistic strategy or something or maybe okay you just keep passing out tracks cole it's

02:31:48.580 gonna work let me let me give one compliment to p canonas i think that the post-libertarian movement

02:31:55.000 in the sense that it thought outside of the box and that they were trying to reimagine different ways

02:32:01.080 to discover liberty in our lifetimes is valuable like i completely disagree with many of his conclusions

02:32:07.820 and i completely disagree with many of his methodologies and like fine i'll put all that aside i like the

02:32:14.980 fact that he was willing to fucking go there and i think that anybody who's like serious about trying

02:32:20.140 to fucking fight off this behemoth of a state like it's a worthwhile thought experiment at a minimum so

02:32:25.600 i don't understand the hate that he gets other than the fact that he goes down some dark paths uh with

02:32:29.500 that and it's a birthday like a day who really thought outside the box you know he was like you know

02:32:35.580 i was a corporal in world war one but i think i can really go amazing places if i try wait no i'm sorry

02:32:41.180 and his name was dave smith have you been uh thanks for the super chats man and yes we understand

02:32:47.200 it's a long stream we're gonna wrap it up here just so uh anything else anything closing on that

02:32:51.320 we can get into plugs and then or anything anything read no just quick at liberty lock pod uh liberty

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02:33:04.100 andrew napolitano and on sunday night big announcement we got the four horsemen in the building on liberty

02:33:10.440 lockdown it's gonna be fucking amazing and then on tuesday how do they fit no excuse me thursday

02:33:16.160 of next week reed coverdale is having on the great comic dave smith do not miss it that's true it will

02:33:22.180 get once again third time's the charm so it will hopefully three explanation times man do what you

02:33:29.320 do best give your all your plugs yeah naturalist capitalist on youtube spotify odyssey apple podcast all

02:33:37.160 that jazz reed coverdale everywhere else i'm the only naturalist capitalist only reed coverdale

02:33:42.160 so just google me he'll find me or if you if you just look on the youtube shorts every fucking once

02:33:48.400 in a while his uh one grand thing it comes up all the time for me it's it's it's like it's very weird

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02:34:01.460 dot com buy some merch so i can get a new microphone oh yeah please buy a shirt yes i still have not

02:34:09.140 received my naturalist capitalist hat so we might have to discuss that really all right you should

02:34:15.040 have problems bro uh speaking of top lobster hey may may 7th robbie the fire um is doing your

02:34:22.100 your summer porch store kicking it off at top lobster's house where was that land lake where

02:34:26.460 the fuck are you where what's the city lady lady i knew it was a lady lady and it's going to be

02:34:31.860 a crossover event with us get those tickets now i think there's 50 tickets available i really don't

02:34:35.820 have any information on how many have been sold or how many like i think one person is allowed to

02:34:40.900 sleep with us or something too but ah we might get a little bit you know you're gonna have to pay extra

02:34:45.400 for that but uh you better be uh you better have a vagina at least but but hey it's going to be a

02:34:52.160 fucking awesome time all of us are going to be there i think we even convinced reed maybe to come

02:34:56.440 down i think that was the other getting rid of the mask was it two weeks or a week from this two

02:35:03.180 weeks from this weekend right whatever the fuck may 7th is and no more i could probably make it yeah

02:35:08.040 hell yeah it'll be fucking so uh all of us are going to be there tower power hours all going to be

02:35:12.360 there we're gonna do a live podcast robbie the fire is going to do a stand-up and then we have a

02:35:15.960 fucking amazing time that that whole afternoon into the night so come out get that and then for

02:35:21.460 me tower king cole and then also two and a half takes out of podcasts last night went great love

02:35:26.540 it do we have the mic set up for tops live podcast recording yet do we know what we're doing we asked

02:35:33.000 him and he never responded did he i don't know i've got well he can't even do his own mic so i might

02:35:38.700 bring mine you might see it in the background there i have a mic that will work do we have do

02:35:43.600 we have like uh whatever the fuck it's called where we can play that's the that's the thing we

02:35:47.080 want that because we asked him and i'm i'm guessing with him being a part of gas digital he should have

02:35:52.240 you know something that he could well i've got a pa system with uh six or seven inputs so all right

02:35:59.000 okay okay well then we need to talk to robbie and confirm that just a reminder anyways is my mic still

02:36:04.420 fucked up because i really no it sounds good now it sounds good now you're good now that the show's

02:36:08.560 over it sounds great we did a great job it wasn't it wasn't on the mic it was in the settings to

02:36:13.800 hear for some reason the mic all right never mind my bad uh tower god toad now because of the

02:36:20.380 fucking twitter man and we got uh another tower power hour we will continue with the zyklon showers

02:36:25.880 the next round will be completed next week with crit daddy yo it's gonna be fire do not miss that

02:36:32.720 i love you guys just want you all to know that and i love our audience you bunch of fucking retards

02:36:38.040 you beautiful retards adam kokash is right about our audience by the way

02:36:42.060 genocide you guys

Tower Gang - April 22, 2022

Ep 66 - The Meth Bus w⧸ Adam Kokesh

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Misogynist Sentences

Hate Speech Sentences

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