Tower Gang - July 20, 2021


Ep 8 - Is Lib Unity Fake and Gay? w⧸ Reed Coverdale


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 24 minutes

Words per Minute

191.69167

Word Count

16,269

Sentence Count

1,529

Misogynist Sentences

21

Hate Speech Sentences

53


Summary

In Episode 8 of the Tower Gang Podcast, we have special guest Reed Coverdale on the show to talk about the liberty movement and his experience in the case race on Saturday night. We also talk about his time at the Unironic Case Race.


Transcript

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00:00:17.260 All right.
00:00:18.200 Here we are with episode eight of the Tower Gang podcast.
00:00:22.620 We've got four people on today.
00:00:25.260 Eight divided by four is two.
00:00:27.640 Two plus one is three.
00:00:28.880 There are three sides to a triangle.
00:00:31.360 Illuminati confirmed.
00:00:33.260 Oh, my gosh.
00:00:34.240 Jesus Christ.
00:00:37.220 I told you it was going to be stupid.
00:00:40.900 We've got today a very special guest, Reed Coverdale, who's been making incredible waves in this whole Liberty movement.
00:00:48.040 Blue-collar guy, fellow from the country, trucker.
00:00:51.600 He's been one of the smartest people.
00:00:53.980 I'm not saying you're high IQ by any means, Reed.
00:00:56.360 I'm just picking.
00:00:57.000 One of the smartest ways to get involved in this Liberty movement is what you're doing right now, and that is the Liberty Unity.
00:01:10.980 Go ahead and introduce yourself, Reed.
00:01:12.380 Anybody who's watching this probably knows who you are already, but let's just go ahead and see what you want to tell them.
00:01:16.580 Yeah, sure.
00:01:18.160 I'm Reed Coverdale.
00:01:19.000 I'm a heavy haul truck driver.
00:01:20.740 I live in Utah.
00:01:21.920 I drive the western states.
00:01:23.680 I've been a capital L libertarian for almost a year now, a small L libertarian for, I don't know when you would officially say I became a small L libertarian.
00:01:33.440 Probably about six years, and the country is super fucked up now, so I want to get something going here and get the people who care about liberty to kind of unite and put the stupid differences aside and try to fight back against the state.
00:01:48.640 So that's mostly what I push for is just focusing on the big issues and get people to think.
00:01:56.640 I don't like people who are brainwashed or who are just really simple-minded about stuff.
00:02:01.280 I want people to question everything, and we are where we are right now because people don't question things.
00:02:09.660 They just go along with what everyone else is doing, and you've got to break out of that.
00:02:13.020 So that's me.
00:02:15.160 Dude, it's crazy how much people don't like questioning, but even if someone just by themselves just thought about the things they believed in, and they came to the realization, like, oh, okay, what I believe in is based on something, I would be like, okay, at least you thought about it.
00:02:33.540 But people don't even, they're just like, oh, someone told me this?
00:02:36.920 All right, that's what I'm going to do.
00:02:38.460 It's kind of weird.
00:02:39.300 And I, it's, even if you're, like, a blue-pilled, like, if you're a communist or whatever, but you actually thought it out and you're actually trying to learn and try to think about things, I feel better that you than some fucking normie that doesn't, like, is just technically an NPC.
00:02:57.980 I mean, it's pretty crazy.
00:02:58.900 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:02:59.380 No, I'm totally insane.
00:03:00.080 95% of this country.
00:03:00.960 Like, I'd rather some fundamentalist Muslim communist, like you said, who's, like, like, does that exist?
00:03:10.460 I don't know.
00:03:11.940 That was Muhammad, by the way.
00:03:13.780 That was Muhammad.
00:03:18.480 The Muhammad Karl Marx.
00:03:20.100 I know we wanted to get kind of started with this case race that happened on Saturday.
00:03:29.660 We were supposed to have an ironic in here to help us out, but Reed was on there after Toad passed the fuck out because he can't handle his liquor.
00:03:39.580 So, I think I did all right, considering, but, yeah, I mean, I apparently missed, like, quite the live stream, which everybody just got on after I left, including Reed.
00:03:51.920 And, yeah, I remember Unironic NCAP got in, and it was just pretty much still us in the case race.
00:03:57.040 And then I don't remember anything else, man.
00:03:59.100 I remember, like, updating my beer count to, like, 13, and that's it.
00:04:05.160 And I woke up, and I was in my bed somehow, and I was, like, oh, I guess I lost.
00:04:12.480 I don't know, man.
00:04:13.420 I came down.
00:04:14.260 I'm, like, I'm going to count my beers.
00:04:15.940 I'm, like, oh, shit.
00:04:16.640 I was mid-17th beer, and then I guess it turned out that Brian won with an 18th, like, two hours later.
00:04:23.220 So, I did not do the right thing in this case race.
00:04:27.740 I was, like, you know, a fucking maniac.
00:04:30.120 I just came in and started pounding beers, and I'm, like, fuck, yeah, I'm up, like, five beers here.
00:04:34.720 I'm going to win this thing, and then the wall just hits you.
00:04:37.480 And, like, all of a sudden, I was just gone.
00:04:41.780 Yeah.
00:04:42.220 When I showed up, you were already dead, but your camera feed was still going.
00:04:47.520 And pretty much right after I showed up, they killed your camera feed, and that's when everyone jumped in.
00:04:52.320 Clint from Liberty Lockdown came on.
00:04:54.220 David Fite, Olivia Rondo, and some other guy who was running for Congress somewhere or something.
00:05:00.900 Believe it or not.
00:05:01.600 I don't even know.
00:05:01.980 Shane Hazel?
00:05:02.620 No, I did not know who that guy was.
00:05:06.260 And then Jenny, the Libertarian, also was on it, I think.
00:05:10.080 Yeah.
00:05:10.500 Bro, what was funny, me and Anuronic were talking today.
00:05:13.300 It was basically, like, if you went out to, like, to a bar with your buddies, and y'all were getting drunk, and then all of a sudden, like, Toad, you pass out.
00:05:21.060 And in the morning, they were like, oh, by the way, Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie showed up, gave beer to everybody, and then fucked on stage.
00:05:28.380 You totally missed it, dude.
00:05:29.340 You just, like, that's basically what happened to you, though.
00:05:32.280 It was like, you passed out.
00:05:33.360 And then, like, all the heavy hitters showed up.
00:05:36.200 I know.
00:05:36.520 That's like how I felt, basically.
00:05:38.280 I mean, I've met Clint before, obviously, on some of these shows.
00:05:41.380 But other than that, yeah, I was like, I did not expect that any of that would have happened.
00:05:45.120 So, yeah, it's like I woke up, and I was in, like, a whole new world, basically.
00:05:49.080 I'm like, what the fuck happened?
00:05:50.240 And everybody was making fun of me.
00:05:52.740 I made an ass of myself.
00:05:53.860 I think I somehow went on to some Discord video chat or something.
00:05:59.520 Oh, no.
00:06:00.980 I was on mute for, like, a half hour in the live stream and had no clue, apparently.
00:06:05.960 And I don't remember any of this.
00:06:07.340 And I saw a video of it, and I was just, like, pounding Gatorade, like, trying to fix myself.
00:06:14.560 It's really funny.
00:06:15.360 That was Saturday, right?
00:06:18.500 Yeah.
00:06:18.900 Yeah.
00:06:19.340 Yeah, I also drank too much on Saturday.
00:06:22.780 That was very funny because I had just gotten finished with doing the Slurp Gang podcast,
00:06:27.340 which is a lot of fun, and it's out now.
00:06:28.740 You all should check it out.
00:06:29.360 It was a lot of fun.
00:06:30.060 It's a very funny episode.
00:06:32.120 And after we finished with that, I wound up drinking way too much, too.
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00:06:51.020 I remember tuning into this show on my phone while I was at my table eating the Domino's
00:06:57.580 I had ordered and then coincidentally forgot that I ordered.
00:07:00.440 And when the people, when the, I passed out.
00:07:02.960 So listen, this is what happened to me.
00:07:05.120 I ordered Domino's, went and sit on my table, my dinner table, passed out at the table.
00:07:11.060 My dogs woke me up barking at the pizza guy.
00:07:13.980 I forgot I had ordered pizza.
00:07:15.440 And then the pizza, the pizza's here.
00:07:18.820 It gets here.
00:07:19.480 I eat and pass out at the table again.
00:07:22.080 I didn't wake up and then, like, what the hell happened.
00:07:24.800 I look and on my phone is the case race.
00:07:27.360 I didn't even know, like, anybody that was on there because it was people that I wasn't familiar with other than, like, Brian McWilliams.
00:07:34.300 I didn't know where you had gone.
00:07:36.360 I missed, I missed everything too, just from just passing out.
00:07:38.820 But I was like, yeah, I want to watch this.
00:07:40.120 And then it turned out I couldn't.
00:07:42.680 Well, I guess your wife really hates you, dude.
00:07:44.820 Just leaving you at the fucking table.
00:07:46.620 Just passed out.
00:07:47.480 She's, she's not, she's at home.
00:07:48.880 She's back home in Louisiana right now.
00:07:50.920 Oh, okay.
00:07:51.600 I was like, damn.
00:07:52.600 No, is that what, this would not have happened.
00:07:54.940 This would not have happened if she was here.
00:07:58.020 Yeah, I mean, apparently the ending was somewhat dramatic, I guess.
00:08:01.500 We don't have any, well, actually, Reed, I guess, probably saw it, right?
00:08:05.880 How the case race actually ended?
00:08:07.780 Yeah, Brian funneled, he, he, he, he won.
00:08:12.860 Although, what was it?
00:08:15.520 Will, like, kept drinking after the time ended.
00:08:18.560 So, Will, like, Will went for, like, 21 beers or something by the time it was done.
00:08:23.980 And we're like, Will, it's over already.
00:08:25.940 Brian already won.
00:08:27.500 He, he just, he just, like, kept going and got more and more drunk.
00:08:31.520 And apparently, it kept going a little bit after I left.
00:08:36.300 And he started saying some really crazy stuff that I missed.
00:08:40.640 So, I wasn't there, actually, all the way to the very end.
00:08:43.520 But pretty close.
00:08:44.780 And it was pretty funny.
00:08:47.380 Damn.
00:08:47.780 Because I think the winning count was 18 with Brian.
00:08:50.360 And I think Will was winning by one beer or something.
00:08:53.260 And Brian overtook him.
00:08:54.200 And I guess they'd extended the time limit, which was supposed to be four hours.
00:08:58.080 And I was winning at the four-hour mark, by the way.
00:09:01.360 They did extend it once.
00:09:03.720 But it was after the extension.
00:09:06.240 Will kept drinking because he wanted to win.
00:09:08.820 But Brian definitely beat him.
00:09:10.740 It was, yeah, it was, it was funny to watch.
00:09:14.920 All I need to do is stay alive, I think, man.
00:09:19.220 Just don't get disqualified.
00:09:20.820 But I only weigh 160.
00:09:22.660 So, it was like, I don't know.
00:09:23.700 I think I did all right for my size.
00:09:25.340 Another thing, Toad, is you got hammered the night before, you dumbass.
00:09:29.520 Oh, I did.
00:09:30.040 I was totally hungover that day.
00:09:31.560 Like, I don't, like, again, like, you did everything wrong.
00:09:35.540 You were like, I'm going to get hammered the night before.
00:09:38.780 I'm going to be hungover as fuck.
00:09:40.380 And then you basically pre-gamed.
00:09:42.680 I heard that you, is that true?
00:09:44.000 That you kind of pre-gamed it or not?
00:09:45.580 Or did you come in like your first beer was on stream?
00:09:48.900 Okay.
00:09:49.480 My first beer was on stream, yeah.
00:09:51.440 And then you pounded them for like an hour and a half.
00:09:55.000 And then got super drunk and then passed out.
00:09:57.920 And then missed the whole rest of the thing.
00:09:59.860 Which I still, I still need to watch it.
00:10:01.440 It's just like, it's like climbing Mount Everest, man.
00:10:04.040 That thing is six hours long.
00:10:06.320 Like, it's going to be like my whole work day.
00:10:09.480 I'm just going to be sitting there just listening to y'all.
00:10:11.720 And watching Toad get drunk or pass out.
00:10:15.280 Apparently, Will Fight got pretty messed up too.
00:10:18.680 And Brian did.
00:10:19.640 But, God.
00:10:21.240 Which, by the way, this whole thing is about the case race.
00:10:23.720 Will Fight set it up.
00:10:24.780 I don't know.
00:10:25.100 We talked about it last week.
00:10:26.280 But nobody knows.
00:10:27.760 And actually, you can still give to it.
00:10:29.280 There's still charity going on right now.
00:10:31.020 So, go to Will Fights.
00:10:32.100 It's also, I'm getting roasted in the chat for using a barbecue lighter to light my pipe.
00:10:38.340 Brian told me and Clint, he's like, hey, I want to do an episode with you guys real quick.
00:10:43.500 So, that's actually why I left early.
00:10:45.780 And he shot an episode with us.
00:10:47.760 But I don't think he's going to air it.
00:10:48.880 Because he was super hammered.
00:10:51.000 I think he was two in the morning.
00:10:52.840 He's probably like, eh, nah.
00:10:54.700 I think he actually immediately dropped it to the Lion's, like, Patreon feed.
00:11:01.660 I think it was already up, like, that morning.
00:11:03.860 Okay.
00:11:04.280 So, he did use it then.
00:11:05.340 Yeah.
00:11:06.140 Yeah.
00:11:06.460 Not for an official ELL.
00:11:08.580 But I think it was Patreon only.
00:11:10.480 Yeah.
00:11:10.800 I mean, that was what he was going to do at first.
00:11:12.200 Patreon only anyway.
00:11:13.200 So, I'm surprised he still put it up.
00:11:14.880 But.
00:11:15.420 I'm pretty sure it's there.
00:11:16.520 I haven't listened to it.
00:11:17.280 But I think I saw it on my feed that morning.
00:11:19.960 But, yeah.
00:11:20.360 The previous night, I had gone to a brewery.
00:11:22.820 And, like, things just get out of hand, man.
00:11:25.160 Like, I was, like, planning on having, like, you know, a few beers maybe.
00:11:29.240 And then, all of a sudden, I'm, like, closing down the brewery with the guys that work there.
00:11:33.240 Like, hanging out with them.
00:11:35.360 They're giving me free beer.
00:11:36.840 I'm, like, this is not going to end well.
00:11:38.900 Especially when I.
00:11:39.520 And I was talking to them about the case race.
00:11:41.720 I was talking to them about libertarianism.
00:11:43.600 And they were actually, like, agreeing with me.
00:11:45.100 Because they're, like, a small business.
00:11:46.460 So, it was, like.
00:11:47.760 They were totally in agreement with me on how the restrictions.
00:11:50.420 The COVID restrictions are, like, destroying small businesses.
00:11:53.660 And are set up, you know, to help the big guys, basically.
00:11:57.680 And I was, like, sweet, man.
00:11:59.540 I'm drunk.
00:12:00.360 And I'm pulling a Brian McWilliams, basically.
00:12:03.820 And reaching dudes at bars.
00:12:06.920 In a non-gay way.
00:12:08.460 No whole world.
00:12:08.920 Yeah, but not the usual way you reach dudes at bars.
00:12:11.320 That's usually a reach around.
00:12:17.240 But, I don't know.
00:12:18.000 It felt good.
00:12:18.760 And then the next day, I was, like, I woke up.
00:12:20.860 And I was not feeling good about the case race.
00:12:23.080 And I had a lot of, like, greasy food and shit.
00:12:26.100 Like, I had protein, meat.
00:12:29.280 And then, like, fried food, carbs.
00:12:31.480 Like, I had everything that day.
00:12:33.140 Let's say you actually, you did it right.
00:12:35.440 How many beers could you actually get?
00:12:36.560 Like, you didn't, like, do this all bullshitted way and didn't run a sprint instead of a marathon and didn't get hung over the night before.
00:12:45.040 How did you think you would hit 20, right?
00:12:48.040 I think I could hit 20.
00:12:49.280 I was on my 17th, like, two hours in or whatever when I passed out or two and a half.
00:12:54.120 So, or whatever it was.
00:12:56.160 So, probably I could hit 20.
00:12:59.900 Talking about the small business thing, Reid, how has it affected the long haul or the heavy haul?
00:13:08.680 Like, your business right now, have you seen anything from the COVID and fucking businesses getting shut down and shit like that?
00:13:15.680 Yeah, so, there's only, we only have five trucks.
00:13:18.840 We're a pretty small company.
00:13:20.720 And about a year ago, when I was trying to get hired, they actually couldn't hire me at first just because there was initial blowback from the first wave of shutdowns that were happening, like, a year ago.
00:13:32.120 But then, in June, everything picked up again.
00:13:35.460 And since then, it hasn't slowed down at all.
00:13:37.760 And half of it is because of all the construction that's been going on for people moving out of the cities into subdivisions and everything.
00:13:44.060 Like, that's actually part of the reason lumber is going through the roof.
00:13:48.380 It is inflation, too.
00:13:49.420 But it's also because the housing market is just going insane from people coming out of the cities.
00:13:54.020 Yep.
00:13:54.460 So, that has a lot to do with it, too.
00:13:55.960 But we've been moving excavators and, you know, pavers and whatever for all these subdivisions that are going up everywhere.
00:14:03.480 It's been nuts.
00:14:04.300 So, for us, it's been crazy.
00:14:06.240 It's insane.
00:14:07.780 Pretty much my job is doing subdivisions, like, designing and planning subdivisions.
00:14:12.960 And around where I'm at, it is going nuts.
00:14:16.240 Like, we can't keep up with the demand of just design.
00:14:20.760 And they're just, I mean, and, like, places that would probably go for, like, $150,000 are going for, like, $250,000.
00:14:27.320 Like, it's insane.
00:14:28.500 Like, it's, I mean, and I was asking, like, Clint, I was like, Clint, should I, I want to buy a house soon.
00:14:35.700 But, like, should I just wait, like, two years until this all, like, comes crumbling down and I get, like, pennies on the dollar and get, like, a much nicer house?
00:14:43.780 But at the same time, well, I'll also lose my job because that's what I do.
00:14:48.140 So, it's kind of a, it's a scary thing to think about.
00:14:51.760 Interest rates might come up, too.
00:14:53.480 So, you never know.
00:14:54.180 Yes, yes, yeah.
00:14:54.940 Yeah, Fat Dave Ault, you just have to stop making fun of dead hockey players on Twitter and get some people off.
00:15:02.600 Then you won't lose your job.
00:15:06.480 I finally got to post about that, not on Fat Dave, but on Minoda.
00:15:10.680 I finally got to post that somebody actually asked, what's the craziest thing someone's been doxxed for?
00:15:15.580 And I was just like, oh, I have a story.
00:15:18.260 I can tell.
00:15:19.960 Which, I don't know if you know this.
00:15:21.140 I got doxxed because, and lost my job because I, someone posted, like, SportsCenter posted a tweet that said,
00:15:29.560 a hockey player died by getting hit in the head with the back of a puck, back of his head with a puck.
00:15:33.940 And so, I just tweeted out with my original account, just walk it off, man, you'll be fine.
00:15:43.360 And people got really mad at me and pretty much doxxed me and then posted another tweet.
00:15:48.420 Well, hang on.
00:15:48.840 I was going to say, there were way more than just that just walk it off tweet.
00:15:53.520 There was some other stuff that were very, very out of context.
00:15:59.320 But don't play it off like you didn't post more edgy shit other than just walk it off.
00:16:04.380 Because there was some stuff about pedophiles, which was taken out of context.
00:16:07.800 I know, I know, I know.
00:16:09.480 Don't worry.
00:16:10.580 You know, there was other stuff.
00:16:11.840 You know, ain't caps and talking about pedophiles, man.
00:16:15.360 You know, age of consent, man.
00:16:16.860 You just, it's so bullshit.
00:16:18.940 This status, age of consent.
00:16:21.340 Oh my God.
00:16:22.660 But I basically lost my job because of that.
00:16:25.760 So, yeah, it was pretty fucked up.
00:16:29.460 Didn't you wind up kind of falling upward, though?
00:16:31.400 Kind of.
00:16:33.460 My first job, I kind of failed upward.
00:16:36.300 I got let go because of COVID.
00:16:38.580 And then I got like a $7,000 pay raise and then got let go again and got equal pay, but probably in a better company.
00:16:46.140 That doesn't give a shit about what I tweet about.
00:16:47.940 So, I'm able to post about Fat Dave and say insane shit and nothing happens to me.
00:16:55.480 I mean, you got taken down by like a teenager, man.
00:16:59.000 He's a 19-year-old, not even in college, doesn't have a job, lives with his mom.
00:17:03.820 Yeah, we talked about this before.
00:17:06.000 I don't want to get into it too bad.
00:17:08.120 Yeah, my boss is subscribed to my YouTube channel, so I'm kind of lucky.
00:17:12.520 Dude, that's fucking crazy.
00:17:13.500 You know, I actually had a talk about this with my boss for like a couple of weeks back or maybe not even that long ago.
00:17:19.800 And I was like, look, you know, I'm doing this thing on Twitter and I have a podcast and a website.
00:17:25.240 And, you know, it's starting to get some traction.
00:17:28.600 And a buddy of mine, like I told him what happened to you, Cole.
00:17:32.620 Yeah.
00:17:33.000 And I was like, you know, a buddy of mine had some stuff happen.
00:17:35.680 So, I was like, just if you ever see.
00:17:38.200 Because the thing about it is the company doesn't have social media pages or anything like that.
00:17:43.880 So, I don't have.
00:17:45.180 And none of my, like, I don't have a LinkedIn account.
00:17:48.000 I don't have a Facebook.
00:17:49.260 The only thing I have is Twitter.
00:17:50.940 Nothing can connect me to the company that I work for.
00:17:53.940 And they don't even have social medias.
00:17:56.500 But I just, I was like, look, boss, just in case anything ever comes up, I promise you.
00:18:01.700 And he was like, dude, just come to work and do good like you've been doing and you're going to be fine.
00:18:06.720 I promise.
00:18:08.200 Yeah.
00:18:08.820 My boss, I didn't tell him until I went on part of the problem like a month ago.
00:18:13.440 And I said, hey, I need to have Wednesday off or I need, I don't even need to be home.
00:18:18.720 But I just need to be somewhere with really good service at.
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00:18:34.880 Hashtag make a play.
00:18:36.280 This time.
00:18:38.500 And he was like, well, how important is it?
00:18:42.420 The most important thing ever.
00:18:44.540 Did you know Dave Smith?
00:18:46.100 Yeah.
00:18:47.500 So then I was just like, all right, yeah.
00:18:49.260 No, I mean, because he knew I was a libertarian.
00:18:51.440 He knew I hated the government or whatever.
00:18:52.900 But I told him, yeah, I've got a pretty sizable podcast, pretty sizable following.
00:18:57.620 And I'm I got this huge break.
00:18:59.560 I'm going on this really big podcast.
00:19:02.320 I have a huge audience.
00:19:03.100 And so I just need to be able to make that make the date or whatever.
00:19:06.100 And he's like, oh, OK.
00:19:07.580 And so then he I saw him a few days later and he was like, holy shit.
00:19:12.100 Have you ever Googled your name before?
00:19:14.020 And I was like, holy shit, dude, I had no idea you had that big of a thing going.
00:19:21.180 And he watched like 10 of my videos.
00:19:24.620 So he was like talking about the videos he'd seen.
00:19:27.200 I think he'd seen the one with he'd seen one with Ryan Dawson and one with Kerry Wettler.
00:19:31.840 And, you know, it is like nice.
00:19:33.520 And he's like, I just want to if you ever want to go out for dinner sometime, I'd love to.
00:19:37.840 Dinner's on me.
00:19:38.460 And I just want you to, like, tell me everything you know about stuff.
00:19:41.580 And I'm just going to sit there and listen.
00:19:43.200 And I was like, OK, like, that's awesome.
00:19:47.520 Your boss ever.
00:19:49.260 But that is awesome.
00:19:50.660 Like when I had Tom Woods on last week, I told him, hey, I need to stop a little early.
00:19:54.920 And he's like totally cool.
00:19:56.720 They're like, yeah, just let me know so I don't forget.
00:19:58.760 And so it's it works out pretty well.
00:20:01.660 Can we talk about that for a second?
00:20:03.460 It was actually Tom Weeds, I thought.
00:20:05.960 Well, I'm not really sure.
00:20:07.700 I don't know who it was because he never took the glasses off.
00:20:10.280 Yeah.
00:20:10.560 He didn't want those bloodshot eyes showing.
00:20:12.840 Bro, I have never seen Tom that fired up.
00:20:16.220 I am convinced.
00:20:18.320 I am convinced there was something in that cup that he was not completely honest about.
00:20:23.560 I do not think that was water like he said it was because that was I've never seen him behave that way.
00:20:29.460 Not that I know him personally or anything, but I've never seen him like I heard him do that.
00:20:33.560 And it was awesome.
00:20:34.300 It was a great episode, man.
00:20:35.240 I'm really glad you did that.
00:20:36.300 Well, the funny thing is, you know, I'm like the Liberty Uniter.
00:20:39.780 And so I'm supposed to be bringing people together or whatever.
00:20:42.260 But nothing he was saying was false.
00:20:44.660 Like all the people he was dunking on, it was completely true.
00:20:48.360 And so I didn't say anything.
00:20:49.920 He fucking named names, too.
00:20:51.500 Yeah.
00:20:52.740 About every instance.
00:20:54.240 Like I couldn't argue with it.
00:20:55.600 I was listening to it today and I was like, damn, he really went after people.
00:20:59.760 Yeah.
00:21:00.200 But I don't know, like in my mind, they kind of deserve it.
00:21:04.780 I mean, the whole the unity thing isn't about like, oh, will it will let bitches get away with being bitches?
00:21:11.040 You know, it's like stop being bitches and try to work together.
00:21:14.400 So if someone keeps being a bitch, you can't work with them like fuck them.
00:21:18.840 I mean, if they're just going to completely derail you forever and never get on board, then I don't know.
00:21:24.420 It's like unity is not about just accepting everybody's flaws and we all work together kumbaya.
00:21:29.940 It's like, no, we like we're getting unified together for a common goal.
00:21:33.940 And like if you're going to be a bitch about getting to that goal, like you need to get in line because you're not going to this is not the place for you to like be a little bitch about.
00:21:43.360 Like because you're not helping libertarians and you're not helping liberty in general if you're just going to bitch about stupid shit like.
00:21:52.360 Like I didn't say anything about the Mises caucus taking over Nevada because I thought it was great.
00:21:58.720 I was like, yeah, I mean, you guys can ask for it.
00:22:01.760 Like, what do you expect?
00:22:03.280 You know?
00:22:03.600 Yeah.
00:22:04.020 And it was that was great because LP Nevada has been like the worst Twitter LP account by far.
00:22:10.220 Oh, man.
00:22:11.120 You know, when we talk about, you know, Lib Unity being fake and gay on the show repeatedly, we're talking about like the loser brigade types, like these people that are impediments.
00:22:22.360 You know, the movement here, what we're trying to do, you know?
00:22:25.780 Yeah.
00:22:26.340 Yeah.
00:22:27.080 Fake or tearing types, you know, the people that Tom Woods was naming essentially.
00:22:32.020 Well, who was the the I'll go ahead, read.
00:22:35.240 Well, no, no.
00:22:35.880 I mean, and then like we kind of clarified at the end that I don't think that people who aren't as fiery as I am are enemies.
00:22:42.340 It's just the people who are literally obstructing everything and trying to tear us apart from the inside because that's what they're doing.
00:22:48.820 And like what else?
00:22:50.380 What else?
00:22:50.740 I mean, they want to be an impressive little clique in a social club.
00:22:54.580 So when they see this movement start taking off, it's like they want to slow it down and maintain their nobility or whatever and just destroy everything.
00:23:03.100 So fuck you if that's what you're trying to do.
00:23:05.560 Like it's such a weird of what I want.
00:23:08.020 So, yeah, it's such a weird thing to want to.
00:23:09.820 I mean, I guess it's it's it's kind of a selfish thing, but maybe maybe like they really do think that's what liberty is, is like we need to I can't I don't know.
00:23:19.100 It's hard to get like play a devil's advocate on this because I can't wrap my mind around like what they're trying to think of.
00:23:24.500 I don't know if devil's advocate is the appropriate term to use, because that kind of implies that there's a coherent position to be had.
00:23:32.360 No, no, no.
00:23:33.140 Don't laugh.
00:23:33.960 I'm actually I'm onto something here.
00:23:35.520 So so there are two particular people that I have in mind that are involved in the Pennsylvania Libertarian Party.
00:23:41.640 And I'm going to name them, Jordan Waldenberger, I don't know, John, John, not yeah, not Jordan.
00:23:50.100 And this other dude named Henry.
00:23:51.960 I don't know his last name, but it's activist Henry on Twitter.
00:23:55.620 It was from the cathedral.
00:23:58.080 But that was his name.
00:23:59.260 But his his at his at has always been activist Henry.
00:24:03.780 And there's so what's going on there, Cole?
00:24:06.780 It's not there's no devil's advocate to be played.
00:24:08.980 It's just that they have their own like libertine positions and they're kind of like these lib socialists who have really left wing cultural values.
00:24:16.620 But they're so incompetent and impotent and do not know how to work hard at a goal that they're upset to see these people that have opposite cultural values.
00:24:29.540 A lot of people in the Mises Caucus, frankly, are on the right culturally, you know, they would be right there.
00:24:37.640 They're definitely right libertarians and they hate to see that.
00:24:40.740 And also, it just makes them angry that you have these people, these new kids in town are just coming in and getting shit done.
00:24:49.660 Like, I mean, that's that's just kind of a thing in life in general.
00:24:52.760 It's like if you've been doing something, no matter how poorly you've been doing it, if you've been doing something for a while and then not having a lot of success.
00:25:00.000 And then these new people just come in and do it and have success immediately.
00:25:04.840 You're going to be resentful of it.
00:25:06.500 But fuck them.
00:25:08.300 I don't give a damn.
00:25:09.360 And I'm glad to see this shit happen.
00:25:10.840 And like I was saying, just imagine the the Spurge out whenever they inevitably take over the the LPPA because they're angry now whenever it's happening in Nevada.
00:25:23.740 Imagine when it happens in their own state.
00:25:25.240 But that's what it is.
00:25:25.900 It's not that there's a devil devil's advocate because it's like there's no real coherent position there.
00:25:29.820 It's just that they're so upset that somebody is actually successful at what they were trying to do at and we're not able to do.
00:25:36.520 Yeah.
00:25:36.980 Yeah.
00:25:37.120 The thing like the only thing that I would have corrected Tom Woods on if I thought I had time or, you know, but it just wasn't worth it because he was just straight fire.
00:25:45.800 So I was I don't think it's fair to call these people left libertarians.
00:25:51.280 It's unfair to left libertarians.
00:25:52.540 I agree.
00:25:53.020 I agree with that completely.
00:25:54.140 Yeah.
00:25:54.400 Bitch.
00:25:54.880 Fuck.
00:25:55.320 Cucks.
00:25:55.680 Like they're just like useless pieces of shit.
00:25:59.040 I mean, I agree.
00:25:59.840 It's like I get you.
00:26:01.360 I agree.
00:26:01.900 I agree because there are some really, really, really good left libertarians like Gary Chartier.
00:26:05.720 And I'm always I always, always, always reference Emma Goldman or like Kropotkin, like these left libertarians are like left anarchists that are really bad ass people.
00:26:16.020 Like and then the problem is like a lot of people that are in my camp, like and cap right libertarian camp, they pretend like left anarchism doesn't exist.
00:26:23.200 They're like, oh, they're they're fake anarchists.
00:26:25.200 Well, not really.
00:26:26.060 Well, not really.
00:26:26.080 You know, Emma Goldman and those Alexander Berkman types, they're bad ass people.
00:26:30.380 But yeah, I agree with you.
00:26:32.600 That's like an insult to left libertarians to call the you know who's of this fucking movement left libertarians.
00:26:37.660 Yeah, it's also funny that I was talking about this on Liberty Lockdown last week.
00:26:44.220 Spike Cohen and Vermin Supreme are very based, especially Vermin Supreme like that guy's you don't get much more based than Vermin Supreme.
00:26:51.140 I've been telling you guys, Vermin is better than you guys think.
00:26:55.180 But well, I mean, I don't I don't like Vermin Supreme.
00:26:58.240 I don't like you don't like him.
00:26:59.300 But no.
00:27:00.360 OK, well, regardless of whether or not you like him, like he doesn't get offended easily.
00:27:03.920 He's somebody who is very, you know, he does ridiculous things and very high stress scenarios and all sorts of protests and everything.
00:27:14.060 He's got very thick skin.
00:27:15.700 But everybody who likes Vermin and Spike, I shouldn't say everyone, a lot of people who like Vermin and Spike, they're the biggest bitches ever.
00:27:24.480 Like they did about everything.
00:27:26.420 They, you know, they demand that you conform to whatever they want.
00:27:30.180 And it's just like, where are you guys getting this from?
00:27:31.900 Because you're, you know, you're superheroes here.
00:27:34.080 They're not like that.
00:27:34.780 I mean, the difference to me, I mean, I don't think it's left versus right so much as it is like blue pill versus red pill.
00:27:41.020 I mean, that's what it seems to me, where it's like these people would rather complain and be offended about just bullshit, like words, memes, whatever, like who somebody has on their podcast, anything like that, rather than actually, you know, focus their outrage on the real shit, you know, war, you know, anything that's killing mass amounts of people, lockdowns, like, you know, let's focus on the actual.
00:28:04.140 The only thing I can think of is, and kind of, this is kind of playing as an advocate of, let's say that like these people in the Missy Caucus are actually racist.
00:28:14.040 I know they're not, but they literally are.
00:28:15.480 They want to.
00:28:16.320 I am.
00:28:16.800 I don't know.
00:28:17.060 But like, and, and then you're there, like in the Libertarian Party now and you're like, okay, these people literally are racist.
00:28:26.680 We, we, this is going to hurt the Liberty movement in the long run.
00:28:30.120 If they come in, that's all I can see that maybe they're like, they actually see them as racist.
00:28:35.340 And so they literally are a threat to Liberty.
00:28:38.480 And they're, I think some of these people do think that, like, I think most of them.
00:28:43.700 And that's the only thing I can, like, actually rationally think about.
00:28:46.880 I think most of them are like protecting their dynasty in the Liberty movement or whatever, like we were saying earlier.
00:28:51.540 But I do think some of these people are just like, they're delusional.
00:28:55.940 I mean, like, it was like Tom was saying in my video, there's like three dozen Nazis in the United States right now.
00:29:02.300 They're not enforcing any of these horrible laws that have been destroying our lives over the last year either.
00:29:07.260 But you talk to some of these people and they're like, I think they've bought into the mainstream narrative.
00:29:14.760 Like he said, you know, with John Brennan talking about how we need to focus on crackdowns of white supremacy and extremist groups.
00:29:22.620 And they're like, they just believe it.
00:29:23.940 And I don't know, it's crazy, but they do.
00:29:27.900 And it's just like, I don't, and maybe you can say like, because they'll just point at like, oh, Dave had on Nick Fuentes or like.
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00:29:48.440 Hashtag make a play.
00:29:51.140 Or read hat on Ryan Dawson three times.
00:29:53.480 I'll tell you what I think is if you're like a progressive and a lot of these people are just progressives with like libertarian sympathies.
00:30:01.860 Because really, if you really get down, if you break it down, you know, what progressivism is, it's like you're not allowed to deviate from that at all.
00:30:10.820 And what progressivism right now is, not only do you have to, it's not about accepting people of other cultures.
00:30:17.080 It's not about accepting people that are not, you know, people outside of like heteronormativity, like LGBT, whatever, whatever the fucking alphabet soup is at this point.
00:30:25.760 It's not about accepting them. It's about putting them on a pedestal and telling and, you know, vaunting them as the most sacred of society.
00:30:34.280 And if you're not doing that, that means you're not a progressive. That means you're the bad guy.
00:30:38.280 Yeah. So it's, it's, it's not just that they're thinking these people are racist.
00:30:43.800 Well, the thing about it is there's a different definition of what you would consider racist and what they would consider racist.
00:30:48.360 I mean, what I would consider racist is somebody who's like actively prejudiced against people based on their race.
00:30:52.580 And I don't really see that face on Twitter.
00:30:54.840 No, I don't know.
00:30:56.120 You know, Martin, Martin Cabello, Martin Cabello really should have done that.
00:31:01.460 I thought you'd be like Martin Luther did blackface on Twitter.
00:31:05.000 So Martin Cabello really should not have done that.
00:31:09.440 That was in poor taste.
00:31:10.620 You know, did you see that video where he was like pretending to talk on the phone as a, with a banana?
00:31:15.580 I'm not kidding.
00:31:16.440 That Martin Cabello third, he actually, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:31:20.120 I have no idea.
00:31:21.040 I'll send it to, I'll send it, I'll send it in.
00:31:22.960 No, I'm not making that up.
00:31:23.800 That actually happened.
00:31:24.400 Martin Cabello.
00:31:25.140 I was, I don't know who Martin Cabello is.
00:31:27.120 Oh, well, I have no, I have no idea.
00:31:29.260 Like when you're talking about, yeah, like having a banana in your face,
00:31:33.020 I'm just thinking of like sucking a cock or something.
00:31:35.440 No, he was like pretending to talk on the phone.
00:31:37.600 I'm just thinking about Nick Ashley in blackface because he hits, what was it?
00:31:44.540 Was it?
00:31:45.820 14.88, right?
00:31:47.240 14.88, that's right.
00:31:48.420 No, no.
00:31:49.020 No?
00:31:49.800 No.
00:31:50.200 16.
00:31:50.620 All right, explain.
00:31:51.500 I don't know.
00:31:53.300 Why were you in blackface, Nick?
00:31:54.760 He wasn't at 16.19 yet.
00:31:56.500 I said you should do something else for 16.19.
00:32:00.120 For 16.19, I freed all of my child slaves.
00:32:04.940 Okay.
00:32:05.320 Good job.
00:32:06.000 All right, fair enough.
00:32:07.620 It was 13.52.
00:32:09.980 Okay.
00:32:10.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:32:11.740 And if you don't know the reference, I am not, I'm not going to elaborate.
00:32:16.360 Now, honestly.
00:32:17.160 It begins with despite.
00:32:18.440 Honestly, I did it just because of the first, mainly because I, well, no, I sort of, yeah.
00:32:29.100 But also because I was like, I'm not even trying to like, okay, there's this thing going
00:32:35.600 on where people, I get really aggravated whenever people like, apologize and back up from some
00:32:45.700 position they hold or like some comedic shit.
00:32:49.920 And I was like, well, I can do this.
00:32:54.560 And if something happens, like, what's the worst that could happen?
00:32:58.380 You know, like, nobody knows my address.
00:33:00.340 Somebody, nobody's going to find my address.
00:33:02.220 Well, they could if they really wanted to, but what are they going to do?
00:33:04.320 You put your name out there, man.
00:33:04.940 You get doxxed like, uh, bro, like fat cave alt here.
00:33:09.680 The worst that could happen is that like, I lose my job and I had already cleared up the
00:33:15.220 shit with my boss.
00:33:16.440 I was like, well, fuck it.
00:33:19.000 I was just like, fuck it.
00:33:19.940 Let me do this.
00:33:20.560 It's it'll be funny.
00:33:21.620 I just thought it would be funny.
00:33:22.620 Literally.
00:33:22.900 That's all it was.
00:33:23.540 It's like, it would make me laugh.
00:33:24.740 So I did it and it made a lot of other people laugh.
00:33:27.160 That's all it was.
00:33:28.260 Nick, since you're, uh, black now, how do you feel about the menthol ban?
00:33:31.200 Uh, well, I mean, Criddleby is set by it.
00:33:36.120 Um, no, that it is funny though.
00:33:40.420 You mentioned the menthol ban because I, uh, I've spoken about this a couple of times now
00:33:45.080 on my show and on another, on the Slurp Gang show.
00:33:47.320 And if you go and look at the like official press release from the FDA or whatever the
00:33:51.380 hell you would call it, I don't know what the term would be, but like the acting FDA
00:33:54.780 commissioner, I forget her title, Janet, something or other.
00:33:58.020 She was like, uh, I'm paraphrasing here, but she was basically saying like menthol is more
00:34:04.040 heavily used in minority and LGBTQ and poor communities than otherwise, you know, whatever.
00:34:11.220 Uh, so banning menthol will help reduce the amount of smokers that are in, in those
00:34:16.500 communities.
00:34:16.840 So they're like literally coming out and saying, we're doing this based on the demographics.
00:34:21.880 So it's, it's really funny to me.
00:34:25.820 Cause I, I was like, you know, not all black people smoke menthol, but black people only
00:34:32.880 smoke menthol.
00:34:34.560 Uh, and they, you're making a face, but that's pretty much.
00:34:40.180 You're, you're, no, no, dude, I know.
00:34:41.960 Cause 85% Cole, you think I'm, you think I'm fucking around, but they actually like pretty
00:34:46.740 much say in the FDA, no, no, I thought you were, I thought you were making that, I thought
00:34:51.800 you were just like, not all black people smoke it, but if they do smoke, they definitely smoke
00:34:56.340 menthol.
00:34:56.860 So I thought you were saying that I kind of, yes, but they're, they're, they're actually
00:35:01.240 saying it's based on the demographics of it.
00:35:03.440 I didn't know that gay and lesbian and trans people smoke menthol at higher percentages or
00:35:07.920 whatever.
00:35:08.380 But we know like the whole stereotype about Newports and basically the FDA enacted, you
00:35:15.580 know, is trying to enact legislation based on a stereotype, which is, it's, it's funny
00:35:20.720 to me in a, in a, in an ironic way and like an actual funny way.
00:35:24.280 Like, wow, I can't, I can't believe they're fucking doing this.
00:35:27.340 Well, yeah, we're not all so super straight that we smoke corn cod pipes all the time.
00:35:34.460 About to light up another one, baby.
00:35:35.840 They're also getting rid of flavored, like flavored tobacco in general too.
00:35:39.780 It was flavored cigars.
00:35:41.180 It was flavored, yeah, like, like Swishers or whatever, you know, typically the things
00:35:45.600 that you've, you would use to, you do other stuff with.
00:35:48.680 Yeah.
00:35:48.940 I'm in Massachusetts and I'm pretty sure they already banned flavored tobacco products.
00:35:53.760 Really?
00:35:54.760 Yeah.
00:35:55.520 So I think they're already being smuggled in from New Hampshire and wherever else.
00:36:00.180 It's ridiculous.
00:36:01.320 Here's a point that LB Moniz made on, on my, on my show.
00:36:05.040 He was like, they already put, cause menthol, a big thing that menthol is, is like, it makes
00:36:09.840 it easier.
00:36:10.500 It makes a cigarette smoother.
00:36:12.360 It takes away like the harshness of the smoke and it makes it easier to smoke.
00:36:17.020 And he was like, they put chocolate, they put sugar, they put all kinds of other shit
00:36:22.580 in a cigarette to make it smoother.
00:36:25.140 They put a filter on the cigarette.
00:36:26.680 The filter is to make it smoother and easier to smoke.
00:36:28.820 You know, it's like, how far do you want to take this to, you know what I mean?
00:36:35.200 And I don't know, man.
00:36:37.260 I, I'm.
00:36:38.060 My favorite thing about it was just all the memes.
00:36:40.380 I was laughing my ass off, man.
00:36:43.020 I did like 10 tweets.
00:36:44.440 I mean, the, the, our group chat was so racist.
00:36:50.600 Um, and it was like, uh, Biden's banning dunking, Biden's banning baby mamas, Biden's banning.
00:37:01.320 I mean, it was, it was so bad, but I did abortion.
00:37:04.560 The worst, uh, the worst part about that is when a meme starts to get big, people are like,
00:37:09.720 get it wrong.
00:37:11.640 So like people would get it back.
00:37:13.180 The joke was Biden is banning things that black people like.
00:37:17.880 Right.
00:37:18.280 And then somebody, I don't remember specifically off the top of my head, but I saw like people
00:37:23.680 saying it, people getting it backwards and it was annoying.
00:37:27.260 Well, yeah, they just didn't get it.
00:37:28.620 Like I, I did one like, like as soon as the menthol thing came out, like before, like the
00:37:33.220 meme even started, I did like grape soda right away.
00:37:36.260 Oh, by the way, uh, Reed, someone asked how many gears are in your truck?
00:37:43.300 Uh, 18 in this one.
00:37:45.380 God damn.
00:37:46.520 Nice.
00:37:50.060 And then I, I thought, I thought the, um, that that was what had spawned the, uh, Nick
00:37:59.260 blackface.
00:37:59.980 So apparently the blackface actually happened earlier in the week than the, that happened
00:38:02.980 before.
00:38:03.480 Yeah.
00:38:03.680 I just did.
00:38:04.280 Yeah.
00:38:04.440 Yeah.
00:38:04.620 It was just for your follower count.
00:38:05.980 Yeah.
00:38:06.120 I got that backwards, I guess you did.
00:38:09.000 So, uh, another thing we were talking about today and we wanted to, uh, uh, touch on with,
00:38:13.980 especially with you read, uh, since you're, um, basically a student of the NAP, um, if
00:38:21.660 there is an open window on someone's car and you fart in that window, is, is that a, uh,
00:38:28.300 a violation of the NAP?
00:38:29.600 Oh, man.
00:38:30.600 Oh, man.
00:38:34.700 So I'm the one who has to answer this?
00:38:36.620 Oh, we're all going to answer it.
00:38:37.460 We're all going to talk about it.
00:38:38.560 But I think you, I'm not talking about it.
00:38:40.220 I already told y'all I wasn't.
00:38:41.300 I'll tap out for the next while.
00:38:43.420 This is tower power hour, man.
00:38:48.840 We're talking about farting at dicks here.
00:38:50.880 Come on.
00:38:51.060 So you purposefully fart into the window?
00:38:53.000 Yeah.
00:38:53.180 Yeah.
00:38:53.300 So it comes by and they say like someone's has their winter down.
00:38:56.080 They're like eating a cheeseburger or something like that.
00:38:58.200 Someone comes by and just rips ass.
00:39:00.280 Right.
00:39:00.440 And because this actually happened, right?
00:39:02.420 This, there was a, there was a video of this happening.
00:39:04.560 What?
00:39:05.140 And so, but there was a video of this hat.
00:39:06.840 This is why we're asking rogue had tweeted out a video of this where I think it was a
00:39:11.140 dude farting into an old lady's open window.
00:39:15.180 Very, very loudly.
00:39:18.020 But is that an NAP violation?
00:39:19.940 That is the question.
00:39:23.260 Um, so I have to answer first.
00:39:25.600 Yeah, you go first.
00:39:26.440 Um, I'm going to say no.
00:39:32.540 All right.
00:39:33.040 Okay.
00:39:33.820 That's okay.
00:39:34.360 It's good to do an NKAPA stand, baby.
00:39:36.060 Here we go.
00:39:36.500 I mean, basically what Reed wants is just people all going around.
00:39:40.980 Farting in each other's windows.
00:39:42.160 Farting in each other's windows.
00:39:43.120 There's no regard for each other at all.
00:39:45.740 Now, what if.
00:39:47.300 It's going to be chaos.
00:39:49.240 What if it is an old lady and she's so shocked by the sound that she drops something and something
00:39:54.620 gets damaged in the process?
00:39:57.060 Well, yeah, then you'd be directly responsible for somebody else's damaged property.
00:40:00.800 Yeah.
00:40:01.500 That's not about the NAP, though.
00:40:02.660 You're responsible for being a little bitch.
00:40:03.760 You could accidentally call somebody to break something without violating the NAP in another
00:40:09.020 situation.
00:40:09.500 Like if you walk around a corner and somebody else is walking around a corner, that's not,
00:40:13.360 I don't think that's a good way to word it.
00:40:14.540 I would say, yes, it's a NAP violation.
00:40:16.700 And the reason I think it's a NAP violation is just because I want to justify punching that
00:40:20.980 motherfucker in the face.
00:40:22.000 So I don't care what philosophical arguments y'all are going to make.
00:40:26.220 I don't care what Rothbard footnotes y'all are about to bring up.
00:40:28.740 Somebody does that to me.
00:40:29.720 He did write about this.
00:40:30.980 Yeah, he wrote about this.
00:40:32.200 Somebody does that shit to me.
00:40:34.140 I am going to punch them in the face as hard as I can, which probably isn't really that
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00:40:53.840 The reason I'm saying it is an NAP violation is because I want to be able to punch them
00:40:59.800 with a clean conscience.
00:41:02.920 Nick wants to punch us all in the face right now for bringing it up.
00:41:05.960 No, I don't care.
00:41:06.820 Do what you want, bro.
00:41:08.500 Reed, he was so mad about that.
00:41:09.680 We brought this up and we were like, we're going to talk about this with Reed.
00:41:12.240 I literally put one message in the chat.
00:41:17.300 No.
00:41:17.800 All I said was no.
00:41:18.740 That's it.
00:41:19.280 Don't misrepresent me, you son of a bitch.
00:41:21.780 And what if this person were to, you know, like, I don't know, lock themselves in Reed's
00:41:27.620 truck cab and fart horrendously and basically hotbox to the truck cab with fart, causing
00:41:34.740 you to, I don't know, pass out or something.
00:41:37.380 I don't even know if that's physically possible.
00:41:38.500 It is an NAP violation because he got into his property, so.
00:41:41.520 Well, yeah.
00:41:42.360 I mean, you already, but.
00:41:44.660 What if you just do it through the window?
00:41:46.920 Is rolling coal a NAP violation?
00:41:49.760 Ooh.
00:41:50.240 Yes, because it's actually a carcinogen, right?
00:41:53.160 Hmm.
00:41:53.760 Yeah.
00:41:54.260 So it's like.
00:41:55.060 But it's my carcinogen.
00:41:56.360 So where's the line when it becomes a violation?
00:41:59.480 Like driving by someone isn't a violation, right?
00:42:01.760 When it's acceptable to punch them in the face.
00:42:04.080 I think it's.
00:42:05.540 That's what.
00:42:06.180 I like that.
00:42:06.840 That's a good.
00:42:07.260 That's my.
00:42:08.040 No, but in seriousness, though, it's the way I try to look at the NAP is like, at what
00:42:12.480 point would you be willing to use violence to stop them from doing it?
00:42:15.820 That's kind of how I try to.
00:42:17.360 I'm Joe.
00:42:17.740 I joke when I say punch the person in the face.
00:42:19.980 But like in seriousness, if we're like all bullshit aside, it's to me, it's about what
00:42:24.280 you're willing to use violence to stop somebody else from doing.
00:42:27.060 So it's subjective then.
00:42:28.700 Yeah, that's.
00:42:29.580 Yeah, I guess.
00:42:30.520 I guess.
00:42:31.040 Well, I mean, the thing about it is, yeah, I think anything is subjective, like not to
00:42:34.440 be like some sort of post-modernist faggot or something, but like, you know, if what's
00:42:39.820 what bothers.
00:42:41.480 I don't know, man.
00:42:42.220 How do you feel about age of consent?
00:42:45.280 I was going to I was going to say we know Nick.
00:42:47.920 20.
00:42:48.600 His wife's 25, 25 is the age of consent.
00:42:52.900 I mean, I agree with you, Nick, that everything's kind of subjective, but don't we need it to be
00:42:57.100 subjective to something that is relatively.
00:42:59.520 No, no.
00:42:59.920 I understand the what I am not smart enough to know the answer.
00:43:03.900 And that is why I am an anarchist is because I have recognized that no one person has
00:43:07.920 the answer.
00:43:08.460 So I defer to people that are smarter than me.
00:43:11.000 That's all I'm going to say.
00:43:12.320 Like Anthony Fauci.
00:43:14.000 Yeah, sure.
00:43:14.920 Hey, there you go, Nick.
00:43:16.420 You just.
00:43:18.240 I got the direct line to him.
00:43:19.740 Let me call him right now.
00:43:22.720 Can we send him some dick pics?
00:43:25.680 Dude, these these type of like hypothetical conversations is what literally every status brings up.
00:43:31.300 Like, what about rolling coal, man?
00:43:33.060 How are you going to people are just going to be rolling coal every everywhere.
00:43:36.260 And that's why we need government, man.
00:43:38.740 Like, it's the dumbest shit.
00:43:41.560 My really, really unlikely hypothetical scenario.
00:43:44.660 You can't figure it out within half of a second of me saying it.
00:43:48.120 Oh, bro.
00:43:48.500 That's why anarchism would not work.
00:43:50.740 Yeah.
00:43:51.680 And that's BTFO, bro.
00:43:54.300 Just read Rothbard, man.
00:43:55.640 He has a whole, like, chapter about pollution and fucking for a new liberty.
00:43:59.700 Yeah.
00:43:59.940 Yeah.
00:44:00.120 Yeah, he does.
00:44:00.780 Walter Block's been writing on this stuff for years.
00:44:02.960 Yeah.
00:44:03.100 Yeah.
00:44:04.680 Yeah.
00:44:05.020 Defending the undefendable, maybe.
00:44:06.920 Reid, would you call yourself an anarchist?
00:44:08.840 I'm a new anarchist.
00:44:10.320 I have, like, recently accepted it.
00:44:12.940 Yeah, like, within the past.
00:44:13.960 You didn't see that, bro?
00:44:14.940 He put a fucking video up.
00:44:16.400 It was like, I'm an anarchist.
00:44:17.440 And then in parentheses, let me explain.
00:44:20.380 Yeah.
00:44:21.220 I've, uh...
00:44:22.880 Yeah.
00:44:23.280 It's been a slow journey.
00:44:25.340 Um, but I wasn't, like, extremely open about it.
00:44:28.060 Like, it was something I was...
00:44:29.460 That was tugging at my brain.
00:44:30.740 It's like, yeah, this whole government stuff doesn't make any sense.
00:44:33.540 And then finally, uh, it was really, a tipping point for me was that, uh, stimulus bill that
00:44:40.400 passed right before Christmas that nobody read that was 5,000 pages long.
00:44:45.420 Yeah.
00:44:45.900 You know, it was the second biggest bill we've ever passed in history.
00:44:49.440 And two Democrats and 47 Republicans and Justin Amash voted against it out of 538 people.
00:44:56.360 And I was like, yeah, okay.
00:44:58.200 I mean, what's the trade-off here?
00:45:00.280 Even if you can have an argument for government, in reality, what are you getting out of it?
00:45:06.020 Like, what's, you know, I mean...
00:45:08.100 And so then I started realizing that the statists, even the minarchists, are the idealists.
00:45:13.340 Because it's the idea, oh, yeah, this is going to function.
00:45:16.200 It's like, well, it doesn't.
00:45:17.520 So why are we, you know, why do we keep doing this?
00:45:20.980 Because we're not winning in the long run with statism.
00:45:23.780 It's not a net gain.
00:45:24.940 It's definitely a net loss.
00:45:26.620 And so then I had Carrie Wedler and Magnus Panvidia and a bunch of anarchists just right
00:45:34.480 in a row on my show.
00:45:35.640 And I started, I read, I finally started reading Lysander Spooner.
00:45:40.380 I read Constitutional Authority and that was it.
00:45:42.900 I was like, okay, fuck it.
00:45:44.020 You know, like, yeah.
00:45:44.620 That's pretty much what a lot of, that's a lot of people's, like, breaking point.
00:45:48.020 Well, it's so crazy.
00:45:49.740 Like, this is, like, almost everybody's, like, thing where, like, they were, like, you know,
00:45:53.740 I guess that's where the whole saying of, like, a minarchist is just an anarchist, like,
00:45:57.520 three months away.
00:45:58.620 Yeah, three months.
00:46:00.800 Mine was, like, three months.
00:46:02.160 But, like, and everybody just starts, like, thinking, like, damn, like, what are we getting
00:46:08.160 from this?
00:46:08.720 Like, why do we have to deal with these people living thousands of miles away, making rules
00:46:14.580 that we have to follow, and then every time they make a rule, it fucks us over?
00:46:19.240 Like, there's no reason that, why can't I just make a rule for my life?
00:46:22.100 And if I fuck up, it's on me.
00:46:24.160 If my neighbor fucks up, it's on him.
00:46:26.320 But, like, why does people so far away, if they fuck up, it affects all of us?
00:46:32.200 And we, and honestly, we can do nothing about it.
00:46:34.300 Even if we vote, the next guy's going to do the same fucking thing.
00:46:37.200 I don't know about you guys, but I didn't want to be an anarchist.
00:46:40.800 Like, it just kind of happened.
00:46:42.840 Like, it just started making sense.
00:46:44.600 And I actually was resisting it at first, too, because it sounds crazy.
00:46:49.140 I don't know if any of you guys are religious, but I was raised religiously, and I'm an atheist
00:46:52.620 now, and it was the exact same thing with that.
00:46:54.600 Like, I did not want to become an atheist, because that's scary, you know, that's, like,
00:46:58.320 crazy, that's out there, you're going to hell, like, you just, but I couldn't help it.
00:47:02.800 Like, eventually, I was just like, yeah, I don't believe in any of this stuff, you know?
00:47:06.140 And it was the exact same thing with the government.
00:47:08.400 Like, it was just like, I don't believe in this.
00:47:10.780 I, you know, I've been trained my whole life to believe in it.
00:47:13.860 And, you know, it was just like a slippery slope.
00:47:15.920 And then finally, you just get to the point where you step through the door and say, fuck
00:47:19.840 it.
00:47:20.060 Yeah, no, I don't believe it.
00:47:21.000 And it was like, with my religion, it was like five or six years ago.
00:47:26.440 And then this was just a few months ago.
00:47:27.720 But it was a very mirrored journey.
00:47:30.280 And I feel like the realist convictions are the ones that you arrive at positions you
00:47:34.800 don't want to arrive at.
00:47:36.340 Like, that's, that's when it's real.
00:47:39.360 Because you have to have a good reason to get there.
00:47:42.360 Yeah.
00:47:43.000 Yeah.
00:47:43.360 I actually came back to Christianity after becoming a libertarian, because I think that
00:47:47.920 it provides like a moral underpinning that's almost necessary.
00:47:52.360 And of course, I say that being a total degenerate at the same time.
00:47:55.500 So maybe I should clean my fucking act up.
00:47:58.140 But, but that did happen.
00:47:59.460 And I mean, I became an anarchist.
00:48:01.580 I don't think I was really resisting it.
00:48:03.360 It was more just like, I don't know, just it made sense.
00:48:07.360 It was logically consistent.
00:48:08.500 It was listening to Dave Smith and reading Anatomy of the State that pushed me over the
00:48:12.460 edge.
00:48:14.200 Yeah, that's the other one I read, Anatomy of the State.
00:48:16.540 That was another good one that was like, yeah, okay, fuck it.
00:48:20.040 I remember listening to, because I didn't read it, because I'm an idiot and I don't read
00:48:25.340 very much, but listening to Chaos Theory by Bob Murphy for the first time.
00:48:30.200 And I was like, whoa, like this, I mean, I think I was an anarchist by that time.
00:48:34.760 But a bunch of people had already asked me, like, what about laws?
00:48:37.760 And like, what about like protection?
00:48:39.700 I'm like, well, you know, we can do this and this.
00:48:41.740 And then I read, like, listen to Bob Murphy on the case.
00:48:44.100 And I was like, oh, shit, like there's actually is a way to do this.
00:48:46.700 And I don't have to just be like, oh, the free market will handle it.
00:48:49.380 And I guess that is the argument.
00:48:50.760 But I never had anybody like lay it out.
00:48:52.580 Like, this has already happened before.
00:48:55.900 It can happen again.
00:48:57.460 And it's going to be much better.
00:48:59.800 And it's just weird things like the more like you can always keep reading more.
00:49:03.440 You can always keep learning more.
00:49:04.380 But like that first realization of like, right.
00:49:07.260 I just have to give in to like this makes logical sense.
00:49:11.620 Right.
00:49:12.040 And if I'm going to be consistent and logical, I cannot advocate for a state because it is going against everything that I believe in personally.
00:49:22.980 Well, long silence, but no, I think you're absolutely right.
00:49:35.120 That was my thought process with both religion and statism.
00:49:39.480 And I think statism is just another religion, but it just took me longer to get out of it.
00:49:45.020 But it's really just about being honest with yourself and then finally being honest with everybody else, too.
00:49:53.100 Because I think some people are honest with themselves and then they're not honest with other people.
00:50:01.820 Yeah.
00:50:02.860 Yeah.
00:50:03.380 Have you, besides your boss, I mean, do you talk to other people in like in your personal life about this?
00:50:10.020 Yeah, this.
00:50:10.900 OK, I didn't know if you were like, because I've tried to and it's weird and it's kind of like because they're looking at you and they're like, you really think this, bro?
00:50:19.160 Like, you really think this?
00:50:20.980 I'm like, yeah, I really think this.
00:50:23.140 And they're like, OK.
00:50:24.540 No, I'm just open about it now because Facebook is like mostly my family.
00:50:29.620 And then so is Instagram.
00:50:31.300 And I'll just, you know, screenshot tweets sometimes and just throw them out there.
00:50:35.820 And I don't I don't pollute it nearly as much as my Twitter feed is.
00:50:39.720 But I just do like, you know, maybe one one hundredth of it or something.
00:50:43.720 And then just if I have a really good one, I'll throw it out there.
00:50:47.140 So they're still getting like a sample of who Reed is so they know.
00:50:52.140 But it's not incessant like it is on Twitter.
00:50:54.400 If they want if they want the barrage, they can come to Twitter.
00:50:58.360 So before we get to the the towers, did you like when you started your YouTube channel, were you expecting like everything that happened?
00:51:08.120 Were you expecting this to happen or were you just kind of like, I'm just going to make some videos?
00:51:11.400 They're going to be pretty fun.
00:51:12.220 Yeah, so I I've been into philosophy, actually, not not like political philosophy, just like general philosophy before 2020 and, you know, before 2020 happened, basically.
00:51:26.600 And so I've been thinking about starting a show when I got into truck driving because I was in 2019.
00:51:32.040 I decided, OK, I don't want to do this line work stuff anymore.
00:51:34.920 I want to go over the road and it'll be a great opportunity to do a podcast if I want, because I can intake information all day while I'm driving.
00:51:42.960 I can listen to books on tape, listen to podcasts.
00:51:45.300 You know, it's kind of the perfect opportunity.
00:51:47.360 And so I had had the idea of doing a podcast.
00:51:50.440 But then just all the shit that happened in 2020 necessitated the politicization of it, you know, like it had to be about politics because of everything that was going on.
00:52:06.100 So in May of last year, I just started it and I was like, I don't know, someone might watch this.
00:52:11.180 And so like the first several episodes, it's just me and a friend just talking about stuff.
00:52:15.760 And then I don't know if you guys have seen the M1 Garand video, the Bumpfire video.
00:52:20.980 Yeah, I've seen that.
00:52:22.360 Yep.
00:52:22.840 Yeah.
00:52:23.300 So I actually filmed that in October of 2019 and I put it up on my YouTube channel because I had that YouTube channel.
00:52:32.080 It was kind of dormant.
00:52:32.920 I wasn't doing a show with it yet.
00:52:34.560 And then in July of last year, somebody somewhere shared that to a big gun page or something.
00:52:41.820 And now it's everywhere.
00:52:43.300 I mean, that thing, it's got over a million views on my personal channel.
00:52:48.880 It's got half a million views on the Naturalist Capitalist.
00:52:52.060 It's been downloaded to Facebook, Instagram by like dozens of different people.
00:52:56.520 And it's got hundreds of thousands of views wherever you find it.
00:52:59.420 So like millions of people have seen that.
00:53:02.200 But I went from like, I think fewer than 100 subscribers to over 2000 subscribers in three days.
00:53:10.020 That always feels good.
00:53:12.120 So that was like my first big, you know, eruption.
00:53:16.900 And that was in July of last year.
00:53:19.300 And then I was like stuck at 2000 subscribers until January of this year.
00:53:24.620 And that's when I actually became friends with Dave Smith.
00:53:27.220 And we started collaborating and doing stuff together.
00:53:30.000 And then he, he kind of, I mean, he's like 90% responsible for the publicity I've gotten.
00:53:35.680 So yeah.
00:53:37.000 Dude, it's crazy how much he's been like lately just picking up people that are just like not huge.
00:53:43.740 And he's just like, hey, I'm going to come on your show.
00:53:45.820 And he's like, and he came on like David Fight Show.
00:53:47.920 And he's like going to have like, he's going to have Magnus on.
00:53:50.560 It's like, yeah.
00:53:51.380 That was just like, by the way, I made that happen.
00:53:53.220 I saw that when it happened.
00:53:55.380 Yep.
00:53:55.700 Yeah.
00:53:56.740 But it's like, no, you're right.
00:53:58.100 Like that's so, that's so great to see that in somebody.
00:54:01.680 Because, you know, back in January, I had like, I don't know, 1200 followers on Twitter, maybe.
00:54:08.480 So there's no way he's thinking strategically, oh, I want to raise this guy up so he can defend me or something.
00:54:15.240 Like we were all, and he just wanted to talk to us.
00:54:18.800 And you're right.
00:54:19.300 Like he'll go on, he went on David's show.
00:54:21.860 He's having Magnus on.
00:54:23.060 Like, I mean, he's just, it's great to see him do that.
00:54:26.160 So I try to do that for shows that are smaller than me too.
00:54:29.220 Like I'm trying to always retweet people.
00:54:32.700 This is the culmination of Reed's career right now, man.
00:54:36.220 The Tower of Power.
00:54:37.540 You finally made it, man.
00:54:39.560 Yeah.
00:54:40.280 No, but he doesn't actively like picket for trans rights.
00:54:43.560 So you should disavow Dave Smith.
00:54:46.540 That's true.
00:54:48.320 And Magnus was towering the chat a little while ago, by the way.
00:54:52.700 I saw that.
00:54:53.520 Yeah.
00:54:55.080 Well, speaking of towers, I guess what we do each week is we always have.
00:54:58.900 Because we are part of the tower gang and we've been doing this shit for a while now.
00:55:03.100 We have like our tower of the week called the Golden Tower Ward.
00:55:06.040 And so Toad is going to show us some of our, like, it's our two favorite towers.
00:55:09.740 And then we all vote.
00:55:11.140 We do some democracy here.
00:55:13.620 So how does one officially become part of the tower gang anyway?
00:55:17.100 You show Dong.
00:55:18.600 What's that?
00:55:20.220 So basically you just ask us and we like let you in.
00:55:24.000 But the, our weeding out system, as we ask everybody that joins the show Dong, they can just send whatever they want that they think applies to that.
00:55:38.800 If they get offended by that, usually they leave.
00:55:41.720 You don't want them anyway.
00:55:43.280 Yeah, we don't want them anyway.
00:55:44.080 So it's a great weed out system of, are you funny enough to join tower gang and you can deal with some degenerate shit?
00:55:50.140 And also, like, we don't have to worry about you being a little bitch.
00:55:54.100 But now you gave it away, man.
00:55:55.700 Now we're going to have to, like, up the ante and, like, I don't know.
00:55:58.320 Yeah, now we're going to have, like, all kind of people asking to join.
00:56:00.920 We can't.
00:56:01.360 This is a very exclusive club, bro.
00:56:03.200 Very exclusive club of the 70 members already in there now.
00:56:06.740 We're at members, literally.
00:56:09.400 Well, we're also at the max right now, so.
00:56:12.020 We can always make another one.
00:56:14.220 If Reed wants to join in and do a couple towers, we've been slacking lately.
00:56:17.560 Maybe we need some new blood in here.
00:56:18.820 So when I first saw it, I didn't even know it was a collaboration.
00:56:21.700 I just figured it was a bunch of idiots just like, okay, oh, yeah.
00:56:25.080 It was.
00:56:26.320 It is what it was.
00:56:28.780 It's very funny.
00:56:29.580 I was touching on this just the other day when I was doing, like, a Twitter space.
00:56:33.280 And I think I said this in the group chat, too.
00:56:35.240 I was like, had I not landed in this, like, circle and I just had the following I had
00:56:41.160 now and I just started seeing this shit happening, I'd be like, who the fuck are these absolute
00:56:47.260 retards doing this shit?
00:56:49.580 I'd be like, and it's not even just y'all.
00:56:52.180 It's just, like, the entire, like, all the TLE guys, like, all the boys.town guys and
00:56:57.800 everybody that's in, like, this whole circle that I'm in.
00:57:00.860 That's not who they are anymore.
00:57:02.320 We can't say that.
00:57:03.680 What do you mean?
00:57:06.640 Well, I mean, I guess.
00:57:07.980 Off camera?
00:57:08.980 Yeah, sure.
00:57:09.640 Okay, tell me later.
00:57:11.220 But anyway, like, this whole circle that, like, we're all kind of a part of, like, if
00:57:17.360 I had just discovered it independently of my development on Twitter, I'd be, like, I'd
00:57:23.800 be blocking all of you.
00:57:26.380 I'm not even joking.
00:57:27.960 I'm, like, I'm so glad that I fell in with y'all rather than fell in another group and
00:57:31.860 then found y'all later because I don't know how I would have reacted to you guys.
00:57:35.260 You block all of us anyway for not responding to your polls correctly.
00:57:38.100 Yeah, you little bitch.
00:57:39.260 The best one was on Liz Cheney, the pullout like your father should have.
00:57:45.900 Yeah.
00:57:46.020 Scott Horton quote tweeted it and said something like, hey, good read right here or something.
00:57:50.860 He just put thread, I think.
00:57:52.740 Just thread.
00:57:53.260 Thread, yeah.
00:57:53.660 That's what he did.
00:57:53.840 Yeah, yeah.
00:57:55.380 Pullout like your father should have.
00:57:57.120 Yeah.
00:57:57.740 Quote tweeted in our gang.
00:57:58.420 This is amazing.
00:57:59.040 And that one did not win the Golden Tower that week.
00:58:02.620 It lost to the Neocon remover one.
00:58:05.400 Wow.
00:58:06.720 Which also tagged Scott Horton, but I don't think he responded to it because it was a
00:58:10.840 fake Scott Horton book title that was Neocon.
00:58:14.300 War is gay.
00:58:14.920 Yeah.
00:58:15.520 War is gay.
00:58:16.340 Time to call Obama a homo.
00:58:18.640 Neocon remover.
00:58:19.780 Rip in peace.
00:58:20.900 I think he, I think he's.
00:58:22.060 He's coming back.
00:58:22.800 But yeah, I think he deactivated it.
00:58:24.240 I think he'll be back.
00:58:24.940 Well, that ties into what I was just talking about.
00:58:28.580 I'll tell you.
00:58:30.300 Yeah.
00:58:30.920 If you go to his Twitter right now, it's just, it's, I don't know if he's, apparently
00:58:36.460 he's not suspended.
00:58:37.340 So, but, but it's not, it's not, you can't, there's nothing there right now.
00:58:41.320 So.
00:58:42.040 Oh boy.
00:58:42.500 Well, I will tell you after we end the stream.
00:58:45.440 Oh man.
00:58:46.100 Cause that goes, that goes into what I was just about to mention, but I won't mention
00:58:48.800 it on air.
00:58:50.120 Okay.
00:58:50.640 So let's get to these towers and see what we got this week.
00:58:54.240 All right.
00:58:54.940 Well, first, so, all right, let's, let's get this going here.
00:58:59.380 We have another Neocon remover homage for one of them.
00:59:06.400 And of course we always have people that are suspended since then from these towers.
00:59:11.120 So we had, I don't even know what the point of this post was.
00:59:14.140 This is from Nathan Weiss.
00:59:16.000 He's, I don't know, not somebody who's known vice chair of the Hamilton County Libertarian
00:59:20.780 Party.
00:59:22.660 Hamilton, what state?
00:59:24.080 I'm not even sure.
00:59:25.880 I don't even know what he was actually saying here, but apparently he got banned from Facebook
00:59:30.000 for hate speech against men.
00:59:32.580 Isn't a Hamilton Libertarian.
00:59:34.780 Like, uh, isn't that an oxymoron?
00:59:36.960 That doesn't really make much sense.
00:59:39.220 No, go watch Michael Malice versus Tom Woods on that and see if, uh, Malice actually makes
00:59:44.560 some decent points in that, even though I still don't think I agree with them.
00:59:47.340 But, uh, that Hamilton is a, is a, what was it?
00:59:50.360 Hero for Liberty.
00:59:51.400 A hero for Liberty.
00:59:52.400 That's right.
00:59:53.060 I would definitely not go that far.
00:59:54.660 I'm not entirely unconvinced that that's just an elaborate troll by Malice.
00:59:58.420 Cause that's what he is.
00:59:59.360 I'm not kidding.
01:00:02.620 You're correct.
01:00:03.420 I mean, I, I kind of forget what his argument actually was, but he had, there was some like
01:00:08.040 vein of like a solid argument in there.
01:00:11.240 And I was like, well, I don't totally disagree with it, but I forget what it was.
01:00:14.260 Oh, one of these folks got suspended.
01:00:16.040 Who started, who did this?
01:00:18.400 Uh, let's see.
01:00:19.640 It was Adam.
01:00:22.380 Oh, Adam.
01:00:23.260 That's right.
01:00:24.880 So he started this tower, which I think originally we were just going to say, cause this guy's
01:00:30.380 saying he got suspended for hate speech against men.
01:00:32.800 I don't even know if he's actually bashing men intentionally or what the purpose was.
01:00:36.780 We were like, let's just tell them that dudes rock.
01:00:39.220 And I was like, well, dudes rock is, you know, kind of this thing that's going around between
01:00:44.700 like ACE and Neocon remover and stuff.
01:00:46.940 And that was Neocon remover's other fake Scott Horton book title that he replaced fool's
01:00:52.060 errand with, which was dudes rock time to get some pussy, bro.
01:00:56.580 Yeah.
01:00:57.020 That was the, uh, that was the fool's errand one.
01:00:59.420 The, the war is gay.
01:01:00.560 The war is gay was the, uh, enough already.
01:01:02.900 Yeah.
01:01:03.100 So now we, um, time to call Obama a homo.
01:01:07.420 Yeah, that's right.
01:01:08.220 Yeah.
01:01:08.660 So that one won the golden tower against the Scott Horton, uh, Liz Cheney one, the pull
01:01:13.960 out, uh, one.
01:01:15.900 And now we have, we did the other Neocon remover one.
01:01:18.900 Dudes rock time to get some pussy, bro.
01:01:22.200 Oh, another one.
01:01:25.080 Let me see.
01:01:25.860 We tagged him in it and he responded to it, which, you know, I mean, I always love the
01:01:30.800 span.
01:01:31.380 I don't know if I want to click on Peter North of the pit vipers here, but I tagged him on,
01:01:37.180 uh, well, we have my spam here.
01:01:40.280 Reed, do you know about Peter North at all?
01:01:42.480 No.
01:01:43.060 Okay.
01:01:44.480 He is this, uh, right here.
01:01:47.560 He's the, he's the tower gang mascot, basically.
01:01:50.200 Okay.
01:01:51.140 And he's, he's a porn star from the eighties and nineties.
01:01:53.820 And yeah, we've towered him and he has not noticed this.
01:01:57.280 He is.
01:01:57.740 He does not.
01:02:01.440 And then I tagged Ace in this because Ace had once said that the Sandlot is the most
01:02:05.740 dudes rock movie ever.
01:02:07.640 So I was like, Ace knows that.
01:02:11.340 Uh, I said, uh, I said, Sandlot is white boy summer.
01:02:14.780 I replied to that.
01:02:17.360 Cause I remember specifically what you're talking about.
01:02:19.900 It is.
01:02:20.640 Oh, it's gone.
01:02:22.220 What'd he say?
01:02:22.820 Very good or something.
01:02:24.260 Oh, that was, yeah.
01:02:24.980 That was what he said on the Obama, uh, time to call Obama homo.
01:02:28.000 And on this one, he just, uh, did like laughing emojis.
01:02:31.480 So he liked this one, but of course we can't see it now because Neil kind of remember deactivated
01:02:35.340 his account, but I think he was going to reactivate and we will see him again.
01:02:39.360 And this tweet will be back, but, and Scott Horton did not respond to this one.
01:02:44.460 Although he does still follow me.
01:02:48.520 He followed me after the, uh, Liz Cheney tower.
01:02:51.680 Well, that's why then.
01:02:53.160 Yes.
01:02:54.380 Well, yeah.
01:02:55.300 Still.
01:02:56.080 So that's the first one.
01:02:57.320 And what's, what's the second one you got?
01:02:58.900 The second one.
01:02:59.880 We don't have the original tweet anymore because Nick deleted it.
01:03:03.000 It was Nick in black.
01:03:04.200 And then the tower was Nicker, please.
01:03:11.260 I really like that.
01:03:13.100 That one right there.
01:03:15.820 The, the, I don't even, is that John?
01:03:17.160 I don't know who it is, but the one with him smoking all the cigarettes and Ant-Trap
01:03:22.780 made it.
01:03:23.180 I don't know.
01:03:24.220 Oh, that's, uh, that's, uh, is it Matthew McConaughey?
01:03:27.780 Yeah.
01:03:27.940 It's Matthew McConaughey.
01:03:28.600 Oh, that's who that is.
01:03:29.480 Okay.
01:03:29.920 Yeah.
01:03:30.120 Where he's like smoking a cigarette.
01:03:31.860 They edited, there's the one where they edited where he's like holding a phone, but I like
01:03:36.980 that one where he's smoking all the cigarettes and we have, there I am.
01:03:41.580 No, not that one.
01:03:42.420 The Nick black face is still there, man.
01:03:44.500 Tower gang after dark.
01:03:46.120 Oh, pussy bitch.
01:03:47.980 Never going to get rid of it, man.
01:03:49.620 It was just a spa day for Nick.
01:03:51.120 It was the charcoal, uh, by the way.
01:03:54.220 That mask didn't do shit.
01:03:56.400 Like it was, it didn't do anything.
01:03:58.760 I'm not even kidding.
01:03:59.320 It didn't do shit.
01:04:00.740 Okay.
01:04:02.680 Pretending to be black.
01:04:04.540 Oh yeah.
01:04:05.580 I just happened to be playing cards against humanity the night this tower was going on
01:04:09.360 and this card came up and I was like, there you go.
01:04:12.580 That's going in this man.
01:04:14.060 After I posted the, uh, the picture, I muted the, I muted the tweet.
01:04:18.260 Cause I didn't, I, there was so much coming in from, uh, from likes replies.
01:04:23.620 Yeah.
01:04:23.940 You got a ton of likes and retweets and stuff like that.
01:04:26.340 After that.
01:04:26.560 It's pretty funny.
01:04:27.940 True.
01:04:28.140 Origin or them are in here.
01:04:29.960 There was one of them.
01:04:30.980 Where's the, um, one where y'all, they photoshopped the face onto Xerxes from 300.
01:04:37.380 Is that in here?
01:04:38.220 That's pretty funny.
01:04:39.800 And I don't know if it's in the, uh, I don't see it in the spam here.
01:04:42.600 I don't know if it's in the spam, but it's, uh, oh, oh, if you go and find Drew Hancock's
01:04:47.080 comment, it just says, dear God, Nick, somebody replied to that with, oh, I don't know if
01:04:54.400 you'll, I don't know if you'll be able to find it.
01:04:56.200 So I don't think I can find it.
01:04:57.540 Some, some dumb ass deleted their tweets.
01:04:59.700 So, well, I'm sorry.
01:05:00.960 Yeah.
01:05:01.180 Cause I tagged the bottom of the towers.
01:05:03.160 I was more afraid.
01:05:04.040 I was more afraid to get banned than anything else.
01:05:07.160 It'd be my, it'd be banned for that.
01:05:09.000 You never know, bro.
01:05:10.380 Yeah.
01:05:10.840 The most recent one I deleted for being afraid to get banned is when everyone was doing the
01:05:14.880 infrastructure tweets.
01:05:15.940 I said dead ATF agents are infrastructure.
01:05:20.900 That's great.
01:05:21.800 That you should have left that one up.
01:05:23.180 Oh yeah.
01:05:24.040 I don't know, man.
01:05:24.900 I've got almost 10,000 followers now.
01:05:26.800 That's true.
01:05:27.800 Fuck.
01:05:28.260 Like, I don't want to start over with.
01:05:29.660 That's what sucks about like, if you ever get like a good amount of followers and like
01:05:33.540 you post something that he gets suspended and you're like, fuck.
01:05:36.200 Yeah.
01:05:38.200 That's what I was worried about.
01:05:39.280 I was worried about getting banned more than anything.
01:05:40.840 I mean, my, my sticking your, uh, girlfriend or your Jewish girlfriend in a Dutch oven didn't
01:05:46.740 get me banned earlier this week.
01:05:48.160 So I don't know.
01:05:49.220 I've had a, I've had a couple that I'm like, it was more subtle than that.
01:05:53.360 Kind of a couple.
01:05:54.440 Oh, when I, when I said that, uh, Nick Fuentes is the best cook in all of Twitter because
01:05:59.860 he knows how to operate an oven.
01:06:01.460 Um, we're all banned from YouTube for this episode, by the way.
01:06:08.100 That's a, I like, there's other ones that I'm like, geez, how did I not get, but then
01:06:12.040 I did get, actually, I did get suspended whenever I did my first tower.
01:06:17.240 I did the first letter and I got suspended immediately after that for a spam.
01:06:22.680 And I was like, motherfucker.
01:06:24.420 But I got back like an hour later, but.
01:06:26.200 Oh, I still haven't.
01:06:28.000 And I'm like so autistic about the towers.
01:06:30.100 I'm in almost every single one.
01:06:31.440 I cataloged them all.
01:06:32.420 I don't know how I haven't been suspended by Twitter's algorithm for single letter tweets.
01:06:36.920 Yeah, I've, I've never even been put in Twitter jail once somehow.
01:06:40.140 And I've made some pretty edgy tweets occasionally.
01:06:42.480 Have you, have you checked if you're like, uh, like de-boosted or, uh, shadow, have you
01:06:49.140 checked that at all?
01:06:50.640 I'm, I'm de-boosted for sure.
01:06:52.320 Reply de-boosted, yeah.
01:06:53.780 Maybe, maybe Twitter thinks that, uh, Reed is a fed.
01:06:57.360 Oh.
01:06:59.020 That's why I do the mustache.
01:07:01.300 No, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the cop
01:07:02.820 Like an 80s cop.
01:07:04.940 That's true.
01:07:05.880 I, I actually, I got put in Twitter jail this week, uh, because, um, I went after Richie
01:07:12.220 Castaldo again, because, I mean, he's been going after Josh Smith again.
01:07:15.620 And I went after him on his, like, hashtag, uh, because he showed Dong to an underage girl.
01:07:22.300 I believe.
01:07:23.260 I'm pretty sure he's in this.
01:07:25.460 But I, I didn't even say that.
01:07:27.140 He gave the story.
01:07:28.580 He gave the story on Twitter.
01:07:30.440 He said that he was masturbating in his room with the window open.
01:07:34.500 And then some girl, like, did he say, like, climbed a tree or some shit?
01:07:38.540 I don't know if I was watching.
01:07:39.900 No, he made, he made it seem like the girl was trying to peep on him.
01:07:44.180 And I don't buy that at all.
01:07:45.380 No, and he actually, he actually said that in response to me, which was so awesome.
01:07:50.140 Because in him getting me, like, suspended for 12 hours or whatever, he blew up for, like,
01:07:56.620 the absolute wrong reasons for himself.
01:07:58.380 And nobody believed, and everybody, like, called me.
01:08:00.820 Yeah, I don't, I don't buy that.
01:08:02.340 I just, I don't believe that.
01:08:04.060 It's the funniest shit.
01:08:05.420 And then the people just kept saying, release the police, uh, reports.
01:08:09.560 Just kept spamming that out.
01:08:11.200 Oh, God.
01:08:11.700 It's just, some of the shit that we.
01:08:14.100 Yeah, uh, Pete Quinonez was trying to get the arrest record.
01:08:17.540 And I don't think it's surfaced, but yeah.
01:08:19.920 Dude, that guy is trying to get banned again.
01:08:21.880 Some of the shit he's posted.
01:08:23.420 Who, Pete?
01:08:24.300 Yeah.
01:08:24.660 Oh, my God.
01:08:25.860 He got it.
01:08:26.420 He got, he got that account back.
01:08:27.780 And he was like, fuck, I don't want this.
01:08:29.520 Let me just, I'm just going hard.
01:08:30.660 Yeah, it was funny.
01:08:33.420 Uh, he and Ryan Dawson both got their accounts back, like, right before they both came on
01:08:37.600 my, uh, my, my stream.
01:08:39.760 And, and then they, uh, I was amazed they didn't say anything.
01:08:42.560 They got my YouTube channel banned.
01:08:44.220 I was just like, before we started streaming, I'm like, hey guys, I know we got like Ryan
01:08:47.760 and Pete on the same stream.
01:08:49.520 So let's just take it easy.
01:08:51.120 Okay.
01:08:51.660 Nothing like too edward.
01:08:53.080 We made it, but, um, yeah, Pete's like trying to get removed again.
01:08:57.160 I think it's just like, I think I said that like he, I can't remember he posted a meme
01:09:03.000 and I was just like, Pete right now is just like, fuck this account.
01:09:06.820 Like, I was like, yeah, all the comments were like, Pete, stay with us because it was literally
01:09:10.760 like the day after he got restored and they were all like, Pete, stay with us 24 hours.
01:09:15.840 Come on, man.
01:09:16.720 And he's lasted.
01:09:17.540 I can't believe he's lasted this long.
01:09:19.240 And he's, he's got a 12 hour at least once.
01:09:21.560 Oh, well, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was a couple, it was like a little
01:09:30.760 while after he had gotten it back.
01:09:32.320 Uh, but yeah, he had gotten a 12 hour at least one time that I saw the only, like, because
01:09:37.540 I didn't know him because I watched, uh, I found out about, uh, monopoly on violence,
01:09:42.820 uh, through Tom Woods because he, I guess he, did he interview him?
01:09:47.660 Uh, or the other guy.
01:09:51.560 Cause he, he, Tom Woods had one of the, uh, either, I don't think, I don't know if he
01:09:55.640 had Pete on, but he had, uh, he's had Pete on a few times.
01:09:58.000 He's definitely had Pete on, yeah, multiple times.
01:09:59.140 Okay, but I just didn't know if it was, I just remember listening to it and I was like,
01:10:02.320 oh, I'll go watch this monopoly on violence.
01:10:03.700 And that's how I heard about Pete.
01:10:04.900 I didn't know he was, I just thought he was just like, just a filmmaker.
01:10:07.740 I didn't realize he was a fucking edgelord.
01:10:10.560 I was like, man, this guy's awesome.
01:10:12.500 He has, I mean, he has a podcast, which I listened to his podcast, like pretty much from the
01:10:16.220 very beginning, like before he was like known pretty much.
01:10:19.400 And then he blew up.
01:10:20.780 Hipster toad.
01:10:22.260 Yeah, that's right.
01:10:23.520 When it comes to libertarian podcasts, man, I'm a hipster.
01:10:26.140 And I actually, because we had a tower on this, which was, um, a hang dong tower on one of
01:10:31.680 our fans, uh, no such username here.
01:10:33.940 This was actually the tweet that got me suspended or yeah.
01:10:36.860 Temporarily suspended.
01:10:38.720 That's what got you suspended?
01:10:40.400 Yeah.
01:10:40.640 Richard Castaldo reported me for that.
01:10:43.260 That's weak.
01:10:45.740 I just like that.
01:10:46.420 I asked him to be hung dong in front of a girl.
01:10:49.060 That's weak.
01:10:50.360 Let's vote on this, these towers.
01:10:51.920 My, uh, my favorite of the week is, uh, Nick or please.
01:10:55.360 That is an amazing tower.
01:10:57.300 And I, I love that just because, because you're retarded.
01:11:03.560 That's why you, yeah, because I'm retarded and I accidentally hit a notification, but I
01:11:06.800 was trying to swipe away, but, um, Nick or please is my favorite and I'm going to vote
01:11:12.220 for that.
01:11:12.720 So I need a refresher.
01:11:15.580 What were all three of them again?
01:11:16.920 There's only two of them.
01:11:19.000 Well, yeah, the hang dong one, I don't think is, is, uh, yeah, it is in the right.
01:11:24.100 I mean, if you want to vote for it, go ahead.
01:11:25.560 I think we had some better ones.
01:11:27.540 I've got an entire spreadsheet of these things and we've been slacking.
01:11:30.460 We only had 21 this week and our highest output was 79 a few weeks ago in one week,
01:11:36.280 which is insane.
01:11:38.460 The other tower was the, uh, neocon remover, fake Scott Horton book title one dudes rock
01:11:43.900 time to get some pussy bro on some small time libertarian party dude who was saying that
01:11:50.700 he made fun of man.
01:11:52.060 I think Nick or please has a better bite to it.
01:11:55.920 It has a great bite to it.
01:11:58.120 The fact that Nick is on here.
01:11:59.820 I mean, it's, so that's, that's too, I mean, I bet Nick is Nick.
01:12:03.220 Nick, are you going to vote for Nick or please?
01:12:04.840 Yeah.
01:12:04.980 Because I'm an absolute narcissist pig for Nick or please.
01:12:09.520 Come on.
01:12:09.840 Is it going to be a clean sweep?
01:12:11.500 No, I'm going to vote for dudes rock time to get some pussy bro.
01:12:14.780 Because it, it definitely took more effort to coordinate that one.
01:12:18.240 So I'm, I'm didn't take that.
01:12:20.120 Didn't take as much, didn't take as much bravery to post blackface though.
01:12:23.260 Did it?
01:12:24.060 No, but, but it also, I mean, uh, neocon remover, when he noticed his other one,
01:12:29.360 the, um, uh, what was it?
01:12:31.120 Uh, time to call Obama homo.
01:12:34.160 He just said like, you know, uh, great job or something like that.
01:12:37.420 Yeah.
01:12:37.740 Yeah.
01:12:38.000 And then on this one, he actually like laughed.
01:12:39.820 So I was like, all right, sweet.
01:12:40.860 Like, you know, we got a better reaction on this one.
01:12:42.880 So I'll do that to piss you off just so.
01:12:47.340 Oh, right.
01:12:47.760 I have to do.
01:12:48.400 Oh, I pissed me off.
01:12:49.960 Come on, dude.
01:12:52.160 Well, we have to, uh, we have to actually give it the golden tower now.
01:12:55.800 Don't we?
01:12:57.420 While you're giving it a golden tower, Reed, why don't you, uh, give some of your plugs?
01:13:02.740 Uh, sure.
01:13:03.620 Well, I, uh, I need to create an audio podcast cause I'm getting, now that I'm the size I
01:13:09.120 am, everyone's asking me for it, but I can highly recommend anchor just to,
01:13:12.880 just to, as a, yeah, anchor is really good.
01:13:15.500 That's what everyone uses.
01:13:16.760 Um, but I, I'm going to be working on doing that and I'll probably, uh, convert episode
01:13:21.800 100 on to audio whenever I get that up.
01:13:25.100 But as of right now, it's just YouTube.
01:13:28.060 Um, the naturalist capitalist.
01:13:29.780 I'm the only one that exists.
01:13:32.200 Uh, I checked before I came up with that term and then, uh, at Reed Coverdale on Twitter.
01:13:37.560 And then I'm also the naturalist capitalist on Facebook there.
01:13:40.980 I have a page there, but I really don't use it that much.
01:13:43.400 So, uh, just follow me.
01:13:44.760 Is your Instagram, is your Instagram just a personal one?
01:13:47.860 Is it just, uh, yeah, you can follow me there.
01:13:49.620 I just occasionally post pictures of tweets and screenshots of videos and then some other
01:13:55.680 like personal stuff, but it's not very interesting, but I think I'm at Reed Coverdale there.
01:13:59.900 So I'm the only Reed Coverdale in the world, so it's pretty, I was like, is that your real
01:14:07.840 name?
01:14:08.220 I'm not even sure.
01:14:09.520 Uh, I go by my middle name.
01:14:11.100 I'll just keep my first name secret, but I, I go by my middle name in real life too.
01:14:15.420 So everyone knows me as Reed Coverdale.
01:14:17.460 So, but yeah, it is my real name.
01:14:19.040 So.
01:14:20.800 All right.
01:14:21.940 Well, dude, it's been awesome having you on.
01:14:23.920 Um, yeah.
01:14:25.200 And thanks for also last minute.
01:14:26.800 We really, uh, which by the way, we are doing another.
01:14:29.600 We're, we're going to do another one tomorrow with Robbie, the fire.
01:14:32.000 He had some technical issues, but, uh, and we hit up Reed and he was like, yeah, I'll
01:14:36.820 do it.
01:14:37.140 And I guess that goes back to you saying like, you're trying to help out these, some of these
01:14:40.820 little bitty podcasts, like the tower power hour.
01:14:43.320 But, uh, honestly, thanks for coming on late.
01:14:46.080 We're supposed to have on a rank on also, but he, uh, he reneged on us.
01:14:50.240 He wasn't even in the case rate.
01:14:52.040 I mean, he didn't actually compete in it.
01:14:53.800 So what does he do?
01:14:54.880 Well, he, he, you know, he was on there a little bit, probably longer than you are toad.
01:14:59.600 Yeah.
01:15:00.320 Yeah.
01:15:01.280 Conscious.
01:15:01.820 Yeah.
01:15:03.120 But not drinking, but I, well, I also want to plug a smarter outlaws, a teespring really
01:15:09.480 fast here.
01:15:10.000 He's got this, a tower gang merch here.
01:15:11.780 It says shut up nerd on it.
01:15:13.400 He is, uh, at GFY hustle on Twitter.
01:15:16.920 He's a member of tower gang.
01:15:18.220 He's got some merch.
01:15:20.820 Also, I do want to also always like shouting out top lobster with his amazing, uh, his,
01:15:26.340 all his amazing shit.
01:15:28.000 He's supposed to be either him or, uh, there's another guy he posted are supposed to get a
01:15:32.640 fat day, 2024, uh, t-shirt out sometimes.
01:15:36.400 So I'm definitely going to be picking that up.
01:15:38.780 Well, I hope the, I hope the other guy is not watching right now.
01:15:41.920 Cause I was incredibly disrespectful.
01:15:43.280 If you don't remember the guy's name, Jesus Christ.
01:15:47.080 Well, I hope he's not, but he posted about him and he was like, Hey, no, no, no.
01:15:51.200 I don't remember what he said.
01:15:51.820 I think he said, uh, at, um, Mises pieces, um, on Twitter, Lula, Lula, Lula von Mises pieces
01:16:00.220 might be able to do it.
01:16:01.880 So, but I don't know if top lobster is still in the chat, but, uh, did you guys see the
01:16:06.560 thumbnail he made for the next four horsemen video?
01:16:09.480 I did.
01:16:10.020 That's hilarious.
01:16:11.080 Yes, dude.
01:16:12.140 So apparently Ryan Dawson has a little bit of an ego when it comes to his height and I
01:16:17.080 don't get it.
01:16:17.500 Cause he's six two, but, uh, like he looks kind of short on the horse.
01:16:22.840 Oh Lord.
01:16:23.460 That was, that was all of you shirtless.
01:16:25.460 And I said, you're the, uh, naturist capitalist, the naturist.
01:16:28.320 Yeah, naturist capitalist.
01:16:31.220 Yeah.
01:16:31.580 But, uh, I, I sent it to Ryan still has Twitter and I talked to him on Skype all the time.
01:16:38.080 So I just sent him a link to it and he saw it and he like freaked out about how short he
01:16:44.080 was.
01:16:44.440 And I was like, dude, are you looking at this image?
01:16:48.060 I mean, your takeaway is from it.
01:16:49.780 So he even commented on it and I sent the comments to top lobster more sort of as a joke.
01:16:55.900 I wasn't expecting him to do anything, but then he.
01:16:58.320 He was like, Oh no, is he upset at me?
01:17:00.740 And I was like, I don't think he even knows who you are, dude, but he, he fixed the picture.
01:17:05.920 So like now Ryan's the tallest one sitting on the horse.
01:17:09.460 So that'll be the official, uh, thumbnail on YouTube.
01:17:13.660 It's just like, Oh my God, this is the dumbest thing ever.
01:17:17.940 Is it, is it just gonna be regular now you and Dave and Ryan?
01:17:21.740 Is it just gonna be like a regular thing from now on with you, man?
01:17:24.220 I mean, certainly Ryan Dawson.
01:17:26.400 I'm one of three YouTube channels that platforms him.
01:17:29.520 So if any of you guys want to really jump on Ryan Dawson, you might be able to get him.
01:17:32.880 One hundred percent.
01:17:34.240 Yeah.
01:17:35.080 Jump on him.
01:17:36.360 Oh.
01:17:37.680 We'll tower gangbang him.
01:17:39.280 The four horsemen every month.
01:17:40.760 So it's that Eric Jackman guy who does all the impersonations, me, him and, uh, Ryan are
01:17:47.060 always in it.
01:17:48.280 We do it once a month and then we're just rotating the fourth guy.
01:17:50.860 So we want to get Scott Horton for June.
01:17:53.760 Um, and then maybe I'll start taking recommendations after that.
01:17:57.020 And we'll just like, you know, I don't know.
01:18:00.400 It's, it's a fun time.
01:18:01.920 It's always a two hour stream and a bunch of ridiculousness comes up and I'm really looking
01:18:07.140 forward to the Dave one though.
01:18:08.040 That's going to get a lot of views.
01:18:09.460 It's going to reads like, I can't wait for those views.
01:18:14.200 That's sweet ad revenue, baby.
01:18:16.900 But like, I think the last time Ryan and Dave were on a video together was like two or
01:18:21.720 three years ago.
01:18:22.460 So everyone's like, Oh my God, Ryan and Dave getting back together and yeah, so it'll be
01:18:27.800 good.
01:18:28.100 There's a lot of excitement already for it, but that could, that could, that's, that
01:18:31.000 could go both ways too.
01:18:32.060 Like people are like, Oh my God, that's so awesome.
01:18:33.900 I'd be like, Oh my God, he's such a racist.
01:18:36.120 Like, I don't, if you go look at the replies, there were at least like five or six replies
01:18:41.340 that were like, you're having a Holocaust and I, are you having a Holocaust denier on?
01:18:46.420 So you need to get like Dave, Ryan Dawson and hope to Jesus on there.
01:18:51.640 And they might, their, their, their minds might explode.
01:18:56.400 And Gavin McInnes or something like that.
01:18:58.740 Yeah.
01:18:58.980 Nick Lentis.
01:19:00.740 Oh yeah.
01:19:01.180 Well, some, an actual reactionary or whatever the hell they are.
01:19:05.660 Right.
01:19:06.600 That'd have been fun.
01:19:07.200 I, I mean, half the reason I, I love Ryan Dawson.
01:19:11.120 I don't even, I don't agree with everything he says, but I mean, most of what he talks
01:19:15.480 about is super important.
01:19:17.380 And half the reason I like having him on is that the cucks just lose their minds.
01:19:21.980 I know.
01:19:23.160 It's so great.
01:19:24.120 Like they just like, Oh my God, you're platforming him.
01:19:27.100 You know?
01:19:27.740 And if you watch the videos, what we talk about, we don't talk about any of the stuff
01:19:31.320 that they hate about him.
01:19:32.760 So yeah, it's just hilarious to see them freak out.
01:19:35.860 You should get on.
01:19:36.740 Oh, who's the, the bear?
01:19:39.420 Owen Benjamin.
01:19:40.560 Owen Benjamin.
01:19:41.660 Yeah, man.
01:19:42.160 Jesus.
01:19:44.100 Yeah.
01:19:44.640 Get that guy.
01:19:45.360 I don't know where he is now, but I don't know what he's doing now.
01:19:48.220 The last time I saw him like months ago, because I used to, I'll admit, I used to watch
01:19:52.780 Lauder with Crowder a lot and he was on there.
01:19:56.080 No shame, no shame.
01:19:58.220 Hey, Crowder, he, he red pilled me on the idea that all gun control is dumb.
01:20:02.960 Cause I was already pretty like, um, you know, most gun control is dumb, but you know,
01:20:08.220 we should still have background checks and you know, maybe we should not have machine
01:20:11.920 guns or whatever.
01:20:12.980 And then I watched his video.
01:20:15.060 I don't know if you've seen it, but he's like having a bunch of people look at guns
01:20:17.840 and the one where, yeah.
01:20:19.620 Oh yeah.
01:20:19.980 Yeah.
01:20:20.500 I watched that and that, there was just that video that it just clicked for me.
01:20:23.980 I was like, Oh yeah, I guess like there is no safe gun.
01:20:26.080 Like every gun you can kill a lot of people with if you want to.
01:20:29.340 And that was it.
01:20:31.340 I've been wishing like somebody like, and I think Dave said he's reached, I can't remember
01:20:37.100 who it was either Dave or Malice said they've tried to get on like Crowder show, but like
01:20:43.580 they could never line it up or anything.
01:20:45.060 But I was like, I've always been like, that would be so much because I just, he's a good
01:20:48.940 guy.
01:20:49.140 He's pretty funny.
01:20:49.780 He's the biggest straw man creator ever, Crowder.
01:20:54.660 Like he's basically Ben Shapiro, just like a couple notches higher.
01:20:58.960 But also stupid.
01:21:00.540 Yeah.
01:21:01.040 He's not very smart.
01:21:02.160 Is he actually that good on guns?
01:21:03.760 Because I don't trust any conservative when it comes to guns.
01:21:06.620 Is he actually good?
01:21:07.220 In the video, he was good on guns.
01:21:08.580 That's all I can tell you.
01:21:09.320 He basically laid out from like a, a handgun, like, yeah, all the way up to like an AR-15.
01:21:16.140 Now he didn't put like a minigun on the table.
01:21:17.980 I don't know if he's down with that.
01:21:19.000 I don't.
01:21:19.400 Okay.
01:21:19.700 Then no, that's all I need to know.
01:21:21.920 My opinion was confirmed.
01:21:23.660 Also somebody who treats cops and like talks about cops the way he does.
01:21:27.120 No, I don't trust him.
01:21:28.020 I don't trust him to be good on guns regardless.
01:21:29.840 So, yeah, I get, I get what you're saying about like being able to bring like sort of
01:21:34.440 red pills somebody.
01:21:35.300 And if somebody like who's already predisposed to that kind of thing, like you particularly
01:21:38.800 read would be brought over to a more, I don't know, radical position on it.
01:21:42.920 Well, dude, you can have someone horrible.
01:21:45.420 Yeah.
01:21:45.640 Yeah.
01:21:45.760 You want something like Bill Maher, believe it or not, like brought me out of neoconservatism
01:21:51.420 to an extent.
01:21:52.360 Like, even though he's super cucked.
01:21:54.200 No, no, I get you.
01:21:55.060 I get you.
01:21:55.660 I was just, I was just thinking about like how good can Crowder really be on guns just
01:21:59.680 because you said that.
01:22:00.640 I was like, what?
01:22:01.480 But I understand what you're saying.
01:22:02.800 He's a bootlicker so he can't be good at guns.
01:22:05.060 Yeah, exactly.
01:22:05.900 That's what I was getting at mostly.
01:22:07.300 But my path to anarchism was through Crowder and Ben Shapiro.
01:22:11.200 Like it wasn't like they were an important part of me going to like.
01:22:14.520 Toad, can you kick him from, I'm just kidding.
01:22:17.740 I'm just kidding.
01:22:18.400 But it really was like, I was basically, I probably grew up like Reed did in a Christian
01:22:26.020 family, conservative, like these wars are good.
01:22:32.100 We need to like, we need to like protect our borders and we don't, we need to fight
01:22:35.980 them over there because, or we'll be fighting them over here.
01:22:38.140 Like that stupid shit.
01:22:39.740 And the only reason I got out there was like, like paleo libertarians, like Ben Shapiro and
01:22:46.120 even though they're bad on war, but they helped on other things, maybe just critically
01:22:50.380 thinking about something, even though they don't take it to its fullest extent, they
01:22:54.680 made me take it to the fullest extent.
01:22:56.080 And then I was just like, oh wait, who's this Tom Woods guy?
01:22:58.820 He sounds pretty cool.
01:23:00.220 Who's this Dave Smith?
01:23:01.340 Oh, he's funny.
01:23:02.000 Oh, he's also fucking based.
01:23:03.700 Yeah.
01:23:03.920 I'm going to listen to him.
01:23:04.780 And then like, by then it was just a boulder rolling down a hill and I was like within
01:23:09.380 a month and a half, I was anarchist.
01:23:10.980 So, and also Liberty Instagram is fucking fire.
01:23:14.760 So if that's, if y'all don't know, it's if y'all are on Instagram, you're, you're fucking
01:23:18.460 idiots.
01:23:18.760 So I was slow on the anarchy thing.
01:23:20.540 Like I, I started fall.
01:23:22.620 I subscribed to Carrie Wendler when she burned her Obama shirt in 2014, bro.
01:23:28.360 She's like, so seven years of watching her.
01:23:30.920 And I still, it still took like till now, like the last few months.
01:23:34.260 That's crazy.
01:23:34.900 Yeah.
01:23:35.140 She has been, she's, oh man, she's a heavy hitter.
01:23:38.200 Yeah.
01:23:38.420 Her videos are so good.
01:23:40.440 I know her videos are so good.
01:23:43.360 And like I, and other ones like twice, cause they've got so much content and she's
01:23:48.740 speaks like so fast.
01:23:50.140 The first time I had her on the show, I planned to have her on for an hour and it was half
01:23:54.260 an hour just because I ran out of stuff to talk about.
01:23:56.340 Oh man.
01:24:00.680 Well, I don't know if you have any more time, but I told my wife only an hour and it's
01:24:06.860 been an hour and 22 minutes.
01:24:08.480 I think we had a good spot to end it.
01:24:10.260 Yeah.
01:24:10.540 It was a great, it was a great spot.
01:24:11.660 Hey man, radio is awesome having you on.
01:24:13.640 We'd love to have you on if you'd want to, but.
01:24:15.680 Thank you.
01:24:16.260 Absolutely.
01:24:17.280 Be safe out on the road, brother.
01:24:18.960 Yeah, man.
01:24:19.440 Will do.
01:24:20.700 All right.
01:24:21.080 See you guys.
01:24:21.740 Peace out.
01:24:22.300 Love.
01:24:22.540 We'll be back then.
01:24:23.480 Bye.
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