Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - August 06, 2026


Left Coast Chaos is a Warning, Not a Roadmap, Interview with Jesse Kelly & John Phillips | Triggered Ep.365


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00:06:04.000 Thank you.
00:06:21.000 Hey guys, and welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.
00:06:25.000 We've got a fun one today because we'll be joined by two guests, each who are taking on the left freak show head on.
00:06:32.000 Jesse Kelly, Marine veteran, host of the nationally syndicated Jesse Kelly Show, and I'm right with Jesse Kelly over on the first, and author of the national bestseller, The Anti Communist Manifesto,
00:06:45.000 a book that gives more relevant insight, frankly, every time one of these communists wins another Democratic primary.
00:06:53.000 We'll also be joined by John Phillips, afternoon on K90KABC in Los Angeles, also syndicated in San Francisco.
00:07:01.000 So, someone who understands California pretty damn well.
00:07:04.000 And he's a columnist for the Orange County Register.
00:07:07.000 That's right.
00:07:08.000 Conservative talk radio growing in California.
00:07:12.000 So, we're going to get into all of the left wing lunacy.
00:07:15.000 We'll talk about what's happening in California, Texas, and everywhere in between, and what Republicans need to do to not hand the keys.
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00:09:31.000 And joining me now, host of I'm Right on First TV with Jesse Kelly and KABC radio host in Los Angeles, John Phillips.
00:09:42.000 Guys, great to have you both back on.
00:09:44.000 You've never done it as the combination.
00:09:46.000 John, you usually come on with Marlo from Breitbart and stuff like that, but this should be a fun one.
00:09:51.000 So, Jesse, you cover the national decline of Western civilization pretty much daily because they give you plenty of material.
00:10:00.000 John covers Los Angeles, where They're basically beta testing all of it.
00:10:06.000 At this point, does anything even shock you guys at all?
00:10:11.000 Are you even surprised with some of the sanity?
00:10:13.000 Even something as insane as the Fauci Diaries?
00:10:17.000 Where do you think we are with all of this stuff?
00:10:20.000 You know, it's hard to shock me in the same way it's hard to shock you and John.
00:10:24.000 It's hard to shock me.
00:10:25.000 And none of the Fauci stuff shocked me because it was stuff that so much of us suspected, right?
00:10:30.000 Well, we were saying it.
00:10:31.000 I was like, wait, in his, you know, the diary is new.
00:10:34.000 And, you know, the fact that, I don't know, a grown man keeps a diary is, you know, if you're going to do it, at least call it a journal.
00:10:39.000 But, you know, it does not exactly strike me as the most masculine guy in the world anyway.
00:10:42.000 But, like, he was saying the stuff in the emails that were published years ago.
00:10:46.000 And I was like, of course it's like, Don, you're not a virologist.
00:10:49.000 You can't comment on this.
00:10:50.000 I'm like, you don't have to be a virologist.
00:10:52.000 You just have to, like, not be retarded to, like, say that, of course, these things were going to be.
00:10:57.000 There was something about reading it in black and white that I'm not going to use the word shock, but, you know, it's like you suspect your kid is sneaking a chocolate chip cookie every night at midnight.
00:11:06.000 He's crawling out of bed.
00:11:07.000 You suspect it.
00:11:08.000 It seems like there are fewer cookies.
00:11:10.000 You can strongly suspect it.
00:11:11.000 But then when you pull up the video camera and watch him do it, there's a, oh my gosh, type thing.
00:11:17.000 And that's kind of what it was when I read it.
00:11:19.000 It's one thing that's suspected.
00:11:21.000 It's another thing to read it in black and white from his own mouth.
00:11:24.000 That was the thing, his own mouth, a dirty freaking liar.
00:11:26.000 Well, yeah, and the fact that it's everything he wrote down, whether it was in the emails, whether it was in the diary, was literally like 100% contrarian to everything he said on TV every day.
00:11:39.000 And that's the problem.
00:11:39.000 So he knew it was wrong.
00:11:41.000 He knew it didn't matter.
00:11:42.000 He knew he pulled it out.
00:11:43.000 The six feet rule, like air doesn't travel beyond the six feet bubble of your person.
00:11:48.000 A mask, you can smell a fart, but it's going to stop the virus.
00:11:53.000 I don't know.
00:11:54.000 I mean, you know, John, what did you see with all this stuff?
00:11:56.000 Well, I just can't understand why anyone would listen to him or anyone who was saying the same things as him all through COVID.
00:12:05.000 But you notice that there were people who were canceled during that time period.
00:12:09.000 There were people who had their lives destroyed, children who were kept out of school.
00:12:14.000 People really had faced serious consequences due to all of these idiotic decisions that these people made.
00:12:20.000 But he's still held in high regard for my society.
00:12:23.000 It's one of those.
00:12:23.000 Yeah, all these.
00:12:25.000 I get it because I was living it with my father.
00:12:28.000 I'm asking him, I'm like, this guy seems like a clown to me, but he's like, I know, but he's a deity as far as the left is concerned, the media, anything he said.
00:12:37.000 If you went against him, they would have impeached my father for not listening to Fauci because he was the pinnacle of everything.
00:12:45.000 And yet, if you look at his record, not just during COVID, but from the 1980s on, whether it's the AIDS epidemic or so, he has not been right about anything in four decades, which is scary.
00:12:55.000 I'll tell you something that did strike me was the level of I guess I'm.
00:13:00.000 Look, I didn't go to college, but malevolence, I think, is the word I'm looking for here.
00:13:04.000 Disdain for people.
00:13:06.000 Yeah, it's one thing to, okay, I screwed up.
00:13:08.000 And then maybe after you screw up, you feel like you have to cover your rear end.
00:13:12.000 We've all done that to some extent on something.
00:13:14.000 I made a mistake.
00:13:15.000 I've got it.
00:13:16.000 It would be one thing if it was that.
00:13:18.000 But from the earliest time he was lying, he knew he was lying.
00:13:22.000 He wasn't sorry about lying.
00:13:24.000 He was going to keep on lying just so he could do media hits.
00:13:27.000 It was so sociopathic.
00:13:29.000 It was actually, I'll be honest, darker than I even thought it was going to be.
00:13:33.000 That's a good point.
00:13:33.000 I mean, it definitely is not just narcissism.
00:13:36.000 And I used to say, hey, the guy never met a camera he didn't love.
00:13:39.000 He's just a narcissist.
00:13:40.000 But it's so far beyond that.
00:13:42.000 And again, you don't have to be a psychologist to say this guy's a sociopath.
00:13:44.000 Like he clearly was.
00:13:46.000 And he was willing to destroy, you know, not just the American economy, but the lives of so many families around our country.
00:13:53.000 You know, when people are missing funerals and couldn't see their parents on their deathbeds and all of these things.
00:13:59.000 And by the way, you know, the statistics show, you know, there were no flu cases that year, even though that killed 60,000 people.
00:14:04.000 They all magically became COVID.
00:14:05.000 And if you got hit by a bus and also happened to have COVID, Even if it wasn't going to do anything to you because you had no pre existing conditions, you know, that was a COVID death.
00:14:12.000 It was just one big lie.
00:14:16.000 Yeah.
00:14:17.000 And if I can just bring up one more thing that piggyback off a point that John made is, you know, we're mad about the lies, right?
00:14:24.000 And it's hypocrisy and we're mad about all these things.
00:14:27.000 I think we should actually remember the real world consequences of these lies.
00:14:31.000 People died because of these lies.
00:14:32.000 People had their lives ruined because of these lies, their finances, their business ruined, their education ruined, their graduation ruined.
00:14:39.000 People couldn't bury their parents.
00:14:41.000 People could, I mean, and not to mention today, everyone complains about inflation and the price of everything.
00:14:46.000 That all stems back to stopping an economy for a virus.
00:14:49.000 It all goes back to that.
00:14:50.000 Obviously, there are things that happened with Biden and whatnot that made that worse.
00:14:54.000 It all comes back to that decision right there.
00:14:56.000 You're mad because you can't afford a plane ticket, groceries anymore.
00:14:59.000 You're mad about it.
00:15:00.000 It all comes back to Dr. Fauci lying.
00:15:04.000 These lies had consequences that have hurt people and are hurting people and will hurt people for the rest of my life.
00:15:09.000 The rest of my life, people will pay for those lies.
00:15:12.000 That's a big deal.
00:15:14.000 That's a good point, Jesse, because we talk about inflation a lot.
00:15:16.000 Obviously, affordability is a big issue.
00:15:18.000 And they've gotten sort of inflation.
00:15:21.000 Under control, meaning the rise of inflation, you know, it's still a little higher right now because of gas prices.
00:15:25.000 I think that'll be a short lived thing, and I hope.
00:15:27.000 But no one talks about you had four years where everything recentered up high.
00:15:31.000 Like you're never in America running, you're going to run negative inflation at, you know, negative 10% for two decades to be able to get back to that baseline.
00:15:39.000 So you can't, you know, they want, oh, Trump's causing this.
00:15:42.000 It's like, no, no, no.
00:15:43.000 It was caused.
00:15:44.000 There was a line here.
00:15:45.000 It moved up to here.
00:15:46.000 Inflation then goes up a little bit.
00:15:49.000 You can get it back down, but you can never get rid of that just.
00:15:51.000 You know, it was like the votes on election day at two o'clock in the morning.
00:15:54.000 It just went all one side and went up, and it's never coming back down.
00:15:58.000 John, you know, you're in California.
00:16:00.000 I mean, it's affecting the people there because you have all the extra environmental taxes and all the other nonsense.
00:16:05.000 What's your take on all that?
00:16:07.000 Oh, yeah.
00:16:07.000 No, it's very, very difficult to be able to afford to live here in the insane asylum because of all of those idiotic policies and the costs that are associated with it.
00:16:17.000 What's wild to me is that when you look at the midterm elections and historically, The party who is out of power usually does well, especially if it's the sixth year of a president's term in office.
00:16:29.000 And you would expect the Democrats to be talking about inflation nonstop, and they're not.
00:16:35.000 You look at this clown car of candidates that they're running this time around, where you essentially have three different types of people.
00:16:42.000 You have the guy in Maine, Plattner, who left, Swalwell, and all the other guys who drive around.
00:16:48.000 Because being a Nazi wasn't enough.
00:16:50.000 He had to then.
00:16:51.000 By the way, a Nazi with a bunch of like accusations, like, you know, and then.
00:16:56.000 But it took like the 25th sexual assault allegation to be like, you know what?
00:17:00.000 Maybe the Nazi isn't actually a good guy.
00:17:02.000 I'm shocked to hear it.
00:17:04.000 I can't believe it.
00:17:05.000 Well, then you got the theater kids who couldn't cut it to make the cast a glee.
00:17:09.000 The woman in Michigan and the guy that she's running against, and the guy in Texas who's going to need at least four out of the six genders to vote for him to win that election.
00:17:18.000 You have that crowd.
00:17:19.000 And then you have the DSA, where they want to get rid of the borders, they want to get rid of the cops, they want to get rid of the prisons, they want to give sex change operations to everyone in Guatemala.
00:17:29.000 And you say to yourself, this, despite what history tells us, the Republicans might have a chance in this election because the Democrats have just nominated the freak shows.
00:17:40.000 Yeah, you listed a couple of them, but John, tell us a little bit about Barbara Ferrer in LA.
00:17:44.000 I mean, the COVID figure in LA County.
00:17:46.000 What the hell's going on with her?
00:17:48.000 Yeah, she's the fake doctor.
00:17:50.000 She is a woman who has a PhD in social welfare, and she runs around in a white lab coat giving medical advice.
00:17:58.000 And she did that all through COVID.
00:18:00.000 And whatever the worst advice is that you could give, Count on this woman to give it.
00:18:06.000 Now we have an environmental disaster going on in Boyle Heights where there was a chemical fire in a building where the solar panels were on fire and it lasted for weeks.
00:18:16.000 Chemical smoke was being blown into the neighborhood.
00:18:19.000 And she goes on TV in a white lab coat and tells all these people who live there it's perfectly healthy to breathe in the smoke.
00:18:28.000 These people have their lungs filled with fluids, they're bleeding from the nose.
00:18:32.000 Wouldn't the people in Philip Morris lie to you?
00:18:35.000 She goes, Yeah, everything's fine.
00:18:37.000 Just go ahead and.
00:18:38.000 You know, take a deep breath and exercise.
00:18:41.000 And there were no consequences at all to her complete and utter buffoonery all through COVID.
00:18:46.000 She managed to keep her job.
00:18:48.000 And now she's doing the same thing because these people learn nothing.
00:18:52.000 I mean, Jesse, your answer to most political mysteries is usually they're communists.
00:18:57.000 And I think you're actually right.
00:18:59.000 You know, John, you watch people who can't even get the fire hydrants filled with water.
00:19:05.000 By the way, on the Pacific Ocean, you know, like it's like there's water right there.
00:19:09.000 I mean, is the chaos.
00:19:12.000 You know, ideological, or are these people simply terrible at their jobs, or is it just maybe a combination of the two?
00:19:18.000 I think it's actually a big combination of the two, and it's one of those chicken or the egg situations.
00:19:23.000 I mean, if you look historically at all the different communist movements, it doesn't matter which one you look at Cambodia, Soviet Union, doesn't matter.
00:19:29.000 And you go grab a hundred of those people, a hundred of the committed communists, it's going to be a conga line of degenerates, felons, and freaks, and drug addicts, and morons, and usually violent criminals.
00:19:44.000 Those are the people.
00:19:45.000 That the movement itself attracts.
00:19:48.000 So, and if you get 100 people with a MAGA hat in a room, is there going to be a turd in there?
00:19:53.000 Of course, there is.
00:19:54.000 You're generally going to have decent people, family values, that kind of a thing, pay their bills.
00:20:00.000 If you grab 100 communists, it's going to be 100 degenerate freaks.
00:20:05.000 And so, if that's the pool you're selecting your candidates from, whether it's Graham Platner or anything else, that's going to happen a lot.
00:20:13.000 I said this when Graham Platner, all that stuff came down with the Nazi tattoo and whatnot.
00:20:17.000 Graham Platner is the future of the Democrat Party.
00:20:20.000 The Democrat primary voter has become a rabbit animal who only wants to hurt Donald Trump.
00:20:25.000 It's all they know.
00:20:25.000 They want to throw their political opponents in prison and hurt Donald Trump.
00:20:29.000 And they will go out and they will ring the bell for the Democrat freak who promises to do the most damage to the country.
00:20:36.000 Therefore, they're going to select communists.
00:20:38.000 Therefore, degenerate freaks with Nazi tattoos and rape allegations are going to be the norm.
00:20:45.000 Graham Platner is not abnormal.
00:20:46.000 He won't be abnormal 10 years from now.
00:20:48.000 He will be the norm.
00:20:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess, but is that.
00:20:52.000 John, is that their solution to the masculinity crisis in the Democrat Party?
00:20:57.000 It's like there's not a lot of Democrats that would be even a little bit masculine.
00:21:00.000 So I guess we're going to have to pick from a much smaller basket.
00:21:03.000 It just happens to be a couple Nazis that share Democratic tendencies.
00:21:07.000 I mean, because it does seem odd.
00:21:08.000 It's like, can it be that hard to find a masculine Democrat in Maine that isn't a Nazi?
00:21:13.000 I don't know.
00:21:15.000 I can't imagine, but maybe that's the case.
00:21:18.000 Well, they're not picking people who are authentic, they're picking people who are playing the role.
00:21:23.000 They're playing the role of a blue collar white guy.
00:21:25.000 I mean, even the storyline about his background as being someone who provides oysters to restaurants turned out to be fake.
00:21:34.000 He had one client, and the client was his mother, and that was it.
00:21:38.000 Yet you look at these biographies that were all written about this guy, and you think he's out on the boat every single day trying to come back with oysters so he can pay his rent.
00:21:47.000 And none of it was true.
00:21:49.000 Because, like I said before, a lot of these are theater kids, a lot of these are people who are playing a role that they think they need to play.
00:21:58.000 To win the election, it's why you get all these fake accents.
00:22:01.000 I mean, we saw that, I guess, originally with Hillary going into the black churches with the Amos and Andy Droll.
00:22:07.000 But that's, look at the woman in Michigan now.
00:22:10.000 Look at how she speaks today compared to how she spoke before on video.
00:22:15.000 And you go, it's not the same person.
00:22:18.000 But if you're the actress who's trying to, you know, get into the role with your method acting, you know, this is what you end up with.
00:22:26.000 Yeah.
00:22:26.000 Like, I think I'd get a hard time, like, if I went to, like, you know, a Latino community, like, hey, Meng, I think you can vote for me, Meng.
00:22:33.000 Like, yeah, I think they'd give you a hard time.
00:22:34.000 And yet, like, They're literally doing it.
00:22:36.000 Like it's an SNL skit back from the funny days of SNL, but it's like playing out in real time.
00:22:42.000 Well, it's because of the different groups of freaks that make up the Democrat Party now.
00:22:47.000 I'll tell you a little story.
00:22:48.000 Back when I was running and losing two congressional races in Arizona, although in the primaries, I always wore a suit and tie.
00:22:54.000 I was young.
00:22:55.000 I wanted to appear older, more mature.
00:22:57.000 So no matter what, suit and tie, suit and tie, and a suit and tie.
00:23:00.000 At one point in time, I had to go meet with a bunch of cattle ranchers.
00:23:03.000 And I know cattle, I know ranching.
00:23:05.000 I'm from Montana.
00:23:06.000 And that was the one time I ever dropped a suit and tie and put on a pair of jeans on advice of some guys who work for the campaign.
00:23:13.000 I felt, and I own jeans, obviously, but I felt so dishonest and dirty because I changed what I normally wore to go meet with a specific group of people.
00:23:23.000 And I came back and I told my guys, I'm never doing that again.
00:23:25.000 I don't care what the event is.
00:23:26.000 It's going to be a suit and tie every time.
00:23:28.000 But that's how Democrats campaign now because you have to appeal to the LGBTQ freaks and the climate communists and, of course, the black racists.
00:23:37.000 You're going to have to use black voice there and talk about hot sauce in your purse.
00:23:40.000 And Gavin Newsom's talking about shooting B ball and eating mac and cheese.
00:23:45.000 And they'll change their accent.
00:23:46.000 They'll change anything.
00:23:47.000 And when it comes to, you know, they've completely lost lower class, non college educated white men.
00:23:54.000 So you keep grabbing some guy like Graham Plattner out there and you have to make up a bunch of crap to pretend like he's one of them.
00:24:01.000 It's all lies.
00:24:02.000 It's all based on deception.
00:24:03.000 And they're not ashamed of it.
00:24:05.000 They're proud of it.
00:24:06.000 Well, and they're even going, what was the thing I was reading?
00:24:08.000 It was like a week or two ago.
00:24:09.000 And it was about, How the discrepancy between right and left for the most highly educated but struggling versus the least educated on paper but thriving portions of America.
00:24:23.000 And obviously, the college PhDs in underwater basket weaving and gender studies, they're shocked that the world is not being that kind to them and they can't earn a living.
00:24:34.000 Meanwhile, the guy that started a trade business and started growing a business and successful never went to college, didn't rack up a half a million dollars of debt for a worthless degree.
00:24:43.000 Is thriving.
00:24:44.000 That's the two biggest discrepancies between left and right right now.
00:24:47.000 And the level of disdain that the left has for those guys who didn't have those degrees, but objectively on paper are far more successful than the doctoral gender studies person who thinks they're really great, but doesn't have anything to show for it.
00:25:03.000 It's a crazy divide.
00:25:04.000 And the fact that there is that disdain for that guy that just works hard and has been successful is crazy to me.
00:25:09.000 Well, and also it comes off as inauthentic, and they seem to have no clue that that's how it comes off.
00:25:15.000 I know.
00:25:16.000 There's been a lot of people who have studied why your dad did much better with Latinos than McCain or Romney or previous Republicans and other ethnic groups as well.
00:25:26.000 And I think the secret sauce is he just went and talked to them like they were any other group of people.
00:25:31.000 He didn't go in there and do that and pander with the fake accent and pander in other ways.
00:25:36.000 My father did not ever have hot sauce in his purse.
00:25:39.000 And by the way, for the record, neither did Hillary Clinton, but it didn't stop her from saying it.
00:25:44.000 And what made it so ineffective is that everyone knew that she never had hot sauce in her purse.
00:25:49.000 So, yeah, listen, my father has sort of a clear agenda, at least for the most part.
00:25:54.000 But some Washington Republicans also have a comfort zone, right?
00:25:58.000 We can blame the Democrats all we want, but there's plenty of Republicans in D.C. that are almost equally obtrusive to getting this stuff done.
00:26:06.000 And the base at times doesn't have a lot of patience, which I understand.
00:26:10.000 But what's the biggest threat to you guys each in the next two years?
00:26:16.000 Is it Democrats stopping the agenda or Republicans simply watering it down?
00:26:21.000 Or is it perhaps something else?
00:26:22.000 Maybe we'll start with Jesse.
00:26:25.000 Well, one, I understand the frustration and I share the frustration.
00:26:28.000 You know, we want the SAVE Act, we want these kinds of things, but I'm actually more encouraged than a lot of other people are.
00:26:34.000 And I'm encouraged for this reason it's not that many members of the Washington GOP that are holding back the America First movement.
00:26:44.000 And the ones they do have that are there, many of them are leaving.
00:26:48.000 John Cornyn lost his primary, Bill Cassidy lost his primary, Tillis is retiring, Mitch McConnell is retiring.
00:26:54.000 It's not that much dead weight.
00:26:56.000 That we have to shed and then replace in order to get what we want.
00:27:01.000 I don't, I'm not as angry as other people because I feel like we're closer to an America First agenda than I've ever been in my 45 years on this planet.
00:27:09.000 Now, is it ideal if we take a beating in the midterms?
00:27:13.000 And we may, you know, history says we're going to.
00:27:15.000 Is it ideal?
00:27:16.000 Of course, it's not ideal.
00:27:17.000 Then Donald Trump's getting impeached every single freaking day.
00:27:20.000 The agenda is ground to a halt.
00:27:22.000 We remember these savages actually shut down, they practically shut down DHS.
00:27:28.000 As the minority, what will they do as a majority in the House?
00:27:30.000 God only knows.
00:27:31.000 So, is it going to be fun?
00:27:32.000 No.
00:27:34.000 I think our biggest threat right now, long term, if I have to look towards something like 2028, is keeping the base engaged enough and letting them know that, yeah, there's always going to be mistakes, failures, things we don't get done.
00:27:47.000 We are gaining ground.
00:27:49.000 There are actually really solid people in the House right now, really solid people in the Senate.
00:27:54.000 Are there some old turds still around?
00:27:55.000 Of course, that's always the way it is.
00:27:57.000 But we're actually getting rid of them too.
00:27:59.000 I feel better than other people do.
00:28:01.000 Yeah, the Senate worse than the House, but hopefully we can make some replacements there in the not too distant future.
00:28:07.000 But Republicans have plenty of Democrat insanity to run against in the midterms.
00:28:12.000 I mean, they keep doubling down, which I love.
00:28:15.000 What turns out more voters?
00:28:17.000 Is it accountability, lower costs, and visible wins?
00:28:22.000 Or we're a reminder ultimately of what happens if and when Democrats get back in power, John?
00:28:31.000 Well, I think it's a combination of factors.
00:28:34.000 I mean, my biggest fear of what's going to happen over the next two years is what happens to elected Republicans when your dad leaves.
00:28:42.000 Because there's a lot of them right now who are there who vote the right way and say the right things, but they know that, you know, there's someone watching over them.
00:28:52.000 And if they get out of line or they do something stupid or they do something they shouldn't be doing, the phone's going to ring and they're going to get reamed and they're going to be brought back to sanity.
00:29:02.000 And while I think we have a number of candidates who would be excellent to come into the White House after your dad, will they have the same ability that he has to keep these people honest?
00:29:14.000 Because this is a fight that just never ends.
00:29:16.000 You have to be on top of it 24 7.
00:29:20.000 And it's got to be a near impossible job to do because when a lot of these people began their careers, they began as Bush Republicans, as establishment Republicans, some of them you might even call Rockefeller Republicans.
00:29:32.000 And your dad demonstrated that if you want to win a national election, This is the way to do it.
00:29:38.000 And he keeps him in line.
00:29:40.000 It's going to be very difficult to find someone to replace him who has that ability because the gravitational pull in Washington is going to be to go back to those Bush years for a lot of these people.
00:29:52.000 Yeah.
00:29:52.000 And it's not just even the willingness, it's the ability to do it, the willingness to actually get out there and take an unpopular approach with your people.
00:30:00.000 I find what's been interesting about politics, which was very different than business once we got into this, was seeing people who could campaign against something, against people who are trying to throw them in jail forever.
00:30:09.000 And then they get in those institutions.
00:30:11.000 They get elected, they win.
00:30:12.000 And it's like Stockholm Syndrome.
00:30:15.000 They fall in love with their captors.
00:30:16.000 And I'm like, I don't understand.
00:30:18.000 And so I hope that changes.
00:30:19.000 Jesse, what are your thoughts?
00:30:21.000 Well, a couple of things.
00:30:22.000 First, I'm ready for.
00:30:25.000 Or I shouldn't say, I'm preparing myself for a post Donald Trump GOP.
00:30:30.000 The Democrats really suffered post Barack Obama because, as much as I may despise the man, he's wildly charismatic and he captured, you know, won two elections.
00:30:39.000 And after him, there was a vacuum there.
00:30:41.000 When you have a guy like that, not every president is a guy like that.
00:30:44.000 Obviously, Joe Biden wasn't.
00:30:45.000 But when you have a guy like that and he is the top dog for a while and then he leaves, sometimes you look around and go, head coach is gone.
00:30:54.000 Who are we now?
00:30:55.000 What are we now?
00:30:56.000 And I think it's inevitable.
00:30:57.000 Donald Trump's been the central figure.
00:30:59.000 I mean, it's really wild to say this on planet Earth for a decade.
00:31:03.000 On planet Earth, he's been the central figure on the planet.
00:31:06.000 What happens when he's not president anymore?
00:31:08.000 He's not going to be president anymore in two and a half years.
00:31:11.000 And the GOP and the GOP voter has to look around and try to forge ahead.
00:31:15.000 I think there'll be some growing pains there.
00:31:17.000 But to your point about people getting there and they don't want to drain the swamp, I've used this example before.
00:31:23.000 If you're a peasant in feudal times and you hate the castle and you hate the people in the castle and they're eating good and you eat crap food, And their beds are comfortable, and your bed sucks.
00:31:32.000 And then one day you get invited in to be part of the castle, and your bed all of a sudden is really comfy, and the turkey's hot, and life is good.
00:31:40.000 Do you want to still reform it?
00:31:41.000 Or at this point in time, are you thinking to yourself, I like this turkey and I like my bed?
00:31:46.000 Yeah, no, I asked a couple of guys this in Congress who did it, some of the guys who were actual fighters against some of the nonsense.
00:31:53.000 And it's your exact point.
00:31:54.000 These guys were on some sort of state council, unpaid for decades, and now they're playing in the big leagues, and they just want to stay in the big leagues.
00:32:03.000 They don't care.
00:32:04.000 And so.
00:32:05.000 The mentality changes a lot.
00:32:06.000 And it's a shame.
00:32:07.000 And hopefully, we can break some of that.
00:32:08.000 But that's just human nature at this point.
00:32:10.000 That's not even politics.
00:32:11.000 But John, you're sort of, let's call it our California translator.
00:32:18.000 Where does Gavin Newsom stand right now?
00:32:21.000 What's the state of the San Francisco political machine?
00:32:25.000 And how much worse can it get for LA under Karen Bass?
00:32:29.000 Well, he's in trouble because of the condition here in North Korea of what we deal with, with homelessness and retail theft, of the bullet train, our Budget being upside down.
00:32:40.000 He can't run on the platform of make the United States like California because no one is going to sign up for that, even in a Democratic primary.
00:32:50.000 What I think he's going to try to do is he is going to try to present himself as the Democrat who can bridge the divide within the party.
00:32:59.000 He's the guy who can talk to the DSA, he's the guy who can represent the establishment, he's the guy that can be all things to all people.
00:33:07.000 But I think for Gavin Newsom, he's in big trouble.
00:33:11.000 Because the map that the Democratic Party just came out with for the next presidential election put South Carolina first.
00:33:18.000 And they put big states like Virginia near the top and Michigan near the top.
00:33:24.000 And you look at those Democratic primary electorates and you go, okay, Black voters are going to have a real say in who wins these primaries.
00:33:32.000 And Kamala Harris now looks like she's going to run for president again.
00:33:37.000 Well, if she's consolidating the Black support in the Democratic primaries, I don't see who beats her in South Carolina.
00:33:45.000 I don't see who beats her in Virginia.
00:33:47.000 I don't see who beats her in Michigan.
00:33:49.000 And if you're Gavin Newsom and you're going up against her and you're trying to get those Democratic establishment voters and donors to get behind you, I don't see where that lane exists.
00:34:02.000 Those two have known each other for a very long time and they're frenemies.
00:34:06.000 They don't really like each other that much, but they've never gone directly against each other.
00:34:12.000 When those two directly go against each other, I think she is going to slice and dice him like a piece of chicken at Benny Hannah's because she can say, What an awful basket case California is under his leadership.
00:34:24.000 And she can say it with credibility that the other candidates don't have.
00:34:28.000 And if you're Gavin Newsom and you have the black woman with the black support behind her telling the world what an awful governor you were, I don't see how you get around that.
00:34:38.000 John, if I may, because I don't disagree obviously with anything you just said, but I do question this part of it.
00:34:45.000 What about her horrid grading personality?
00:34:47.000 And I mentioned that because it killed her last election.
00:34:50.000 Remember when she jumped in, of course.
00:34:52.000 Black woman, she was immediately treated by the media as if she was the second coming of Christ.
00:34:59.000 And she immediately nosedived as soon as people started hearing her talk.
00:35:03.000 She was not able to gain any traction.
00:35:05.000 She was a complete embarrassment.
00:35:07.000 And she's lucky Joe Biden plucked her out of the bench after she dropped out.
00:35:11.000 How does that change now?
00:35:13.000 Her personality still sucks.
00:35:14.000 Well, that's why I was surprised, though, because I was like, when I heard they were going to redo their sort of primary map, I was like, oh, this is the way they actually screw Kamala Harris.
00:35:26.000 To prevent it because of those flaws that you talk about, Jesse.
00:35:29.000 But it turns out they actually set it up to seemingly make it better for her because you build that momentum in those early states where the black vote's going to matter more than other states later on.
00:35:38.000 The momentum is a big deal in politics.
00:35:41.000 Well, and you look at her opponents in the race.
00:35:43.000 She's going to be running against Newsom, Pritzker, AOC.
00:35:47.000 So, yeah, she may have an awful personality, but all she needs to do is be the tallest building in Omaha.
00:35:56.000 Karen Bass now is saying that she takes responsibility for homelessness and then manages to discover a long list of other people responsible for it.
00:36:07.000 At what point does progressive governance stop being an ideology and become really a public health violation, guys?
00:36:17.000 The state of our cities actually is one of the things that genuinely saddens me.
00:36:21.000 I love the country, I love being out in the wild, but I love cities too.
00:36:24.000 I love New York City.
00:36:25.000 I love Los Angeles.
00:36:27.000 I flew into Los Angeles a couple months ago.
00:36:29.000 And you forget how beautiful Los Angeles is until you're flying in on a plane and you have the mountains right there and the ocean.
00:36:34.000 And it's just Southern California is a paradise.
00:36:36.000 And then you land, and it's like a Monet painting.
00:36:38.000 The closer you get to it, the uglier it gets.
00:36:41.000 You land, and all of a sudden, it's homeless.
00:36:43.000 It's filth.
00:36:44.000 You got the ATMs locked up behind steel and cinder block.
00:36:48.000 And the truth is, if you keep electing Democrats in these areas, the place will continue to decay.
00:36:53.000 There is no reversing it.
00:36:54.000 You cannot win elections now in these areas because they find ways to cheat and steal elections.
00:36:58.000 Anytime a Democrat controls an area for long enough, It becomes impossible for anyone else to win.
00:37:03.000 We saw what happened with Spencer Pratt.
00:37:05.000 Same thing would happen in New York City or anywhere else.
00:37:07.000 So it becomes the people there are essentially trapped in a never ending death spiral of hell.
00:37:14.000 And they're going to be trapped until I don't know what can even change.
00:37:18.000 People say, well, to get bad enough and people will change how they vote.
00:37:21.000 No, they will not.
00:37:22.000 There's no history of that in the urban areas, really, whatsoever.
00:37:25.000 Maybe Rudy Giuliani, but for the most part, people leave.
00:37:28.000 They pack it up and they leave and they move to Florida and they move to Tennessee.
00:37:31.000 And it's just gross.
00:37:34.000 Yeah.
00:37:34.000 I mean, to that point, Jesse, I mean, some.
00:37:36.000 Some Californians have chosen to stay and fight, but a lot of them chose the U Haul instead for places like Texas.
00:37:41.000 I'm seeing, hell, I'm seeing a lot of them in Florida right now.
00:37:45.000 Question for both of you, I guess.
00:37:46.000 Maybe we'll start with John, but do you think we'll continue to see migration or does that trend stop at some point?
00:37:52.000 Are the guys that have been successful just gone?
00:37:55.000 The tax base goes away.
00:37:56.000 Everyone else is sort of, whether it be pricing or otherwise, just sort of forced to be locked in there.
00:38:02.000 They've been in their home for 20 years.
00:38:04.000 If they sold it, they may not be able to get something quite as good somewhere else at this point.
00:38:08.000 Does that migratory trend stop at this point or does it keep going?
00:38:13.000 I don't see it slowing down anytime soon.
00:38:15.000 Now, AI is going to be the dominant industry in the country for quite some time.
00:38:19.000 So maybe at some point in the future, that will reverse it.
00:38:23.000 But just think about this for a second.
00:38:25.000 We're going to lose between three and five congressional seats in the next census, which means our population is going down dramatically.
00:38:33.000 Yet there are more people living on the streets.
00:38:35.000 Shouldn't there be more houses available, more apartments available, more condos available with all the people who are moving out?
00:38:43.000 The fact of the matter is, we don't have a housing problem in California that's causing people to live on the street.
00:38:50.000 We have a permissive attitude about drugs where we tolerate people using specifically meth and fentanyl.
00:38:58.000 That is why people are living on the streets.
00:39:00.000 And as bad as Karen Bass is, and she is awful, it goes all the way to the top to Gavin Newsom because it's the state that sets the rules when it comes to drugs.
00:39:10.000 It's the state that tells the cops to look the other way when people are using drugs in public.
00:39:15.000 And that is why we have the encampments, that is why we have the number of people living on the streets, and they all refuse to acknowledge reality.
00:39:23.000 And unless and until they acknowledge reality, the problem is going to get worse and people are going to continue to flee the state because why do you want to live in an insane asylum like this when you don't have to?
00:39:36.000 Jesse?
00:39:37.000 Yeah.
00:39:39.000 Isn't that so terrible?
00:39:40.000 Again, I hate to come back to it, but California is such a paradise.
00:39:43.000 It's so beautiful.
00:39:44.000 Do you know how hard you have to work to make a place that beautiful unlivable?
00:39:48.000 It actually takes an effort to make a place that gorgeous unlivable, and yet Democrats are capable of doing it.
00:39:55.000 And I don't think that's good for the country I love, that California is going to continue to descend into hell.
00:40:01.000 I think that's actually terrible that we've taken our largest, most prosperous, most beautiful state and we've allowed it to decay the way it is.
00:40:08.000 As much as I love Texas, I live in Texas.
00:40:10.000 I don't want the whole country to have to move to Texas in order to have some level of freedom or Florida in order to have some level of cleanliness and safety in society.
00:40:19.000 As a young mother should be able to take her two children to a public park in Los Angeles the same way she can in rural Texas.
00:40:27.000 But that seems so far away from reality now.
00:40:32.000 It's difficult to see how it changes without something drastic that nobody wants to talk about.
00:40:37.000 And I'm talking about the federal government stepping in, troops in the streets.
00:40:41.000 I mean, the kind of ugly stuff no one wants.
00:40:44.000 It's hard to see it turning around in these places without that.
00:40:47.000 Yeah.
00:40:47.000 Well, you know, and I saw that.
00:40:49.000 I was worried about it with Florida.
00:40:50.000 And, you know, while I've been coming here my whole life, I've only been living here since, you know, let's call it 2021, 2020.
00:40:57.000 And I was like, oh crap, I hope all the other New Yorkers that came down during COVID or whatever it is.
00:41:02.000 That they're going to turn the place blue.
00:41:04.000 And it actually went 14 points more red.
00:41:07.000 So is California the drain?
00:41:11.000 Is it across the board or is it like moderate, reasonable people who can be swayed and the conservatives who are actually leaving, making it harder to ever make gains for the Republican side of things in California ever again, despite, again, the catastrophe that's happening?
00:41:25.000 Well, I'll tell you this that I don't have all the poll numbers on it, but I've seen enough over the years, especially from internal groups like Texas Public Policy Foundation.
00:41:33.000 They do really sharp work here in Texas.
00:41:36.000 And you know, everyone loves to complain about Californians.
00:41:38.000 You know, in Montana, there's bumper stickers, keep Montana beautiful, put a Californian on the bus.
00:41:42.000 Don, I know you've seen that.
00:41:44.000 It's just, it happens.
00:41:45.000 But the truth is, the people who are moving are turning places redder.
00:41:49.000 They are redder voters who are moving.
00:41:51.000 I actually don't share that sentiment at all.
00:41:54.000 If you want to leave your blue hellhole, generally, it's not universal.
00:41:58.000 You are bringing better values with you, not worse values.
00:42:02.000 It can happen.
00:42:03.000 But when I find out somebody, 20 people from California moved to Texas, I tell myself, great, 15 of them are Republicans and we're just fortifying the state.
00:42:11.000 I consider it a good thing.
00:42:13.000 So, guys, socialism keeps getting repackaged for young voters like it's a new app instead of an old catastrophe.
00:42:20.000 Jesse, why does it still sound fresh to people with smartphones, private property, their $7 Starbucks latte, and everything else we enjoy in a free country?
00:42:32.000 How do these anti capitalists, essentially, not understand the hypocrisy that they're living themselves?
00:42:39.000 Roughly 99% of the knowledge I've gained on my 45 years about communism has come from reading books and the things I had to consume.
00:42:47.000 After I got done with a 12 year government education.
00:42:50.000 When you're in school systems now, you will learn, of course, about the horrors of America and the genocide of the Native Americans.
00:42:57.000 You'll learn about Hitler, of course, and whatnot.
00:43:00.000 You never learn about Pates prison in Romania.
00:43:02.000 You never learn about the things the Stasi did in East Germany.
00:43:06.000 You don't really learn about the Bolsheviks and the secret police in the different regions competing to come up with the most elaborate tortures they can possibly imagine for anyone they can find.
00:43:16.000 You don't read about them carving smiles in the face of priests and mass raping the nuns.
00:43:21.000 You don't learn any of this in public school.
00:43:24.000 And so, by the time you're done with public school, you move right on to a $50,000 a year education that your Republican parents buy for you.
00:43:32.000 And there, you really learn how bad America sucks and you learn how bad Republicans suck.
00:43:36.000 But no one tells you about Mao's love of knee breaking, watching people shatter their knees by bending them the other way.
00:43:42.000 You don't learn any of this stuff.
00:43:44.000 So, all you know is when you get out, you have a crappy apartment, a crappy job at Starbucks, you can't afford the rent, you can't afford anything else.
00:43:51.000 And some goober like Mamdani comes along and tells you he's going to lower the rent.
00:43:55.000 You're a moron.
00:43:56.000 Yeah, you're 25 years old and you might have a fancy college degree, but you're effectively the stupidest person on earth because no one's ever told you the truth about anything.
00:44:04.000 John?
00:44:05.000 I think it's two different groups of people.
00:44:08.000 One is in American history, kids always expected to do 50% better than their parents.
00:44:15.000 And we had a very upwardly mobile society.
00:44:18.000 And now you have a lot of people who have a lot of useless college degrees, who have a lot of debt.
00:44:24.000 Who look at their parents living in a nice four bedroom home with a pool and a yard and a couple of cars and the ability to go on vacation a few times a year.
00:44:33.000 And they feel that they'll never experience that life and that they're entitled to it.
00:44:39.000 And because they live in blue states like California, where it costs a fortune to buy a house, it's just not going to happen.
00:44:45.000 So you have a group of people who are going around and telling them if you vote for me, all of these things that you know you're entitled to.
00:44:54.000 You will get, and it's the boomers and it's the billionaires and it's the wealthy that are preventing you from having what all of us know you are entitled to.
00:45:06.000 So vote for us and we'll give it to you.
00:45:09.000 And I think that that is a compelling argument for a lot of them.
00:45:12.000 The other thing is when you look at these Democratic primaries where there's a DSA candidate versus, let's call them a traditional Democrat, all the Democrats do, all the traditional Democrats do is use your dad as the central villain in every story.
00:45:28.000 All they talk about is how they're going to stop Trump from U.S. Senate to governor to dog catcher.
00:45:35.000 It doesn't matter what office you're talking about.
00:45:37.000 They don't tell you what they're for.
00:45:39.000 They don't tell you what they're going to do for you.
00:45:41.000 They just tell you how much they hate Donald Trump.
00:45:44.000 The DSA candidates believe in crazy ideas, but they're perfectly willing to tell you what they stand for.
00:45:52.000 So in those primaries, they have a monopoly on making arguments in terms of what they say they're going to do for their constituents, for their voters.
00:46:02.000 And I think that the Democrats have given them this opportunity to eat their lunch.
00:46:07.000 And that's exactly what's happening.
00:46:10.000 Yeah, listen, I agree.
00:46:11.000 I mean, both of you guys work in a business where, you know, the audience often spots the real story before the institutional press does, or maybe the institutional press just simply neglects it because it's not convenient for the narrative.
00:46:22.000 You know, what does talk radio understand about the country that perhaps the regime media doesn't?
00:46:29.000 Speaking just for myself on this one, you don't talk radio isn't near as fancy as people may think it is.
00:46:36.000 You know, I'm happy the show is as big as it is and whatnot, but, you know, I don't.
00:46:40.000 I don't live in New York City in a penthouse.
00:46:43.000 I don't fly on private jets.
00:46:45.000 I live a very normal life and I'm surrounded by very normal people.
00:46:48.000 I'm surrounded by mechanics and plumbers and an RVG general manager and normal, just normal people.
00:46:55.000 And because I'm not in a New York City penthouse and taking private cars everywhere, you have a better understanding of what normal people are going through.
00:47:05.000 When I gather with my friends, I sit and I listen and you find out what issues.
00:47:10.000 People really care about.
00:47:11.000 I have all kinds of issues I'm majorly passionate about politically, and they don't land at all with my normie friends.
00:47:16.000 And my normie friends are the ones who decide elections.
00:47:19.000 I'll be super mad about something, some scandal, and I'll sit down and bring it up, and they've never even heard of it before.
00:47:25.000 They're mad because Aiden, Jaden, and Braden graduated college a year ago, and he has 500 resumes, and he can't get a call back.
00:47:32.000 And then the other one will piggyback on that.
00:47:33.000 Yeah, my daughter's going through the same thing.
00:47:35.000 No one gives a crap about my pet issue.
00:47:37.000 So you learn what issues are actually mattering for people.
00:47:40.000 Yeah, I think I've got the same thing, which is like, you know, my outdoor.
00:47:43.000 Stuff, whether it's hunting, fishing, shooting, all that stuff.
00:47:45.000 Like, my friends on the weekend are like just, you know, good, proper, like, redneck Americans.
00:47:49.000 And so they're like, well, how does this guy, son of a billionaire from New York City, how does he get it?
00:47:52.000 I'm like, I actually like talk to these people, which is shocking to, you know, even people in Congress who are there to represent exactly those people, but have never had a conversation with them.
00:48:02.000 But, you know, John, what's your take?
00:48:05.000 The audience can tell when they're being lied to.
00:48:07.000 They can tell when someone is not authentic.
00:48:10.000 So, for example, all of these NGOs that are stealing money.
00:48:14.000 That are now being uncovered.
00:48:16.000 Nick Shirley and others are really doing a good job at finding all of this corruption.
00:48:21.000 The audience, at least here in Los Angeles and San Francisco, that I talk to every day, they've been emailing me about that and calling in about that for some time because they live in these communities and they know no one's going into these offices.
00:48:35.000 They know these offices are empty.
00:48:37.000 They know that the money is being stolen.
00:48:39.000 They know that the more that we spend on the homeless, let's say, it's not resulting in fewer people living on the streets.
00:48:47.000 They know these organizations.
00:48:48.000 These NGOs are taking the money.
00:48:51.000 And eventually, the mainstream media and others catch on to this.
00:48:55.000 And hopefully, at some point, the authorities catch on to it as well.
00:48:59.000 But for the talk radio audience, this is something that we have been talking about for quite some time.
00:49:04.000 The same thing with the fire aid, all the money that's supposed to go to the fire victims that's being stolen by these same NGOs.
00:49:11.000 And the people in the government don't know that the people on the ground, the boots on the ground, the people out in the trenches are aware of all of this.
00:49:20.000 But They know because it's their lived experience.
00:49:23.000 They see it with their eyes.
00:49:25.000 They're around it on a regular basis.
00:49:27.000 And it's something that the mainstream media chooses to ignore.
00:49:31.000 I think they're aware of it too.
00:49:32.000 But in talk radio, it's something that we have a conversation about on a daily basis.
00:49:37.000 Yeah.
00:49:38.000 I mean, you know, conservative media can also kind of become its own bubble as well.
00:49:42.000 I mean, what do you think, you know, again, each of you, you know, what's the one thing your audience doesn't enjoy hearing, but you tell them anyway because it's actually true?
00:49:52.000 And, you know, sort of which one of it, you know, which one of you gets more hate mail about it because of it?
00:49:59.000 I'll tell you something people don't like, and it's really universal that nobody likes to hear this.
00:50:05.000 When you.
00:50:06.000 When you see your parents, you want to hear, oh, you're so handsome.
00:50:10.000 You've never looked better.
00:50:11.000 You don't want to hear, geez, you have gotten fat.
00:50:13.000 Have you been to the gym forever?
00:50:15.000 Like, nobody wants to hear that, even if you have gotten fat.
00:50:18.000 This is the exact conversation I had with my parents at one point in time.
00:50:20.000 My mom told me how handsome I was, and my dad basically called me a disgusting wad of chewed up bubble gum that needs to get back into the gym.
00:50:26.000 Well, my dad's Donald Trump, so he usually doesn't pull punches that way.
00:50:29.000 So when I'm a little chunky, he calls it.
00:50:32.000 Of course.
00:50:33.000 Of course.
00:50:34.000 It's just human nature, right?
00:50:35.000 What did I like to hear more in that moment?
00:50:37.000 Of course, what my mom said.
00:50:39.000 If you give somebody a hard dose of reality, like I was talking about the midterms the other day, and I said, Look, the headwinds are always against the party in power.
00:50:46.000 We're going to fight against that.
00:50:48.000 If gas prices remain fairly high, it's going to hurt us even worse.
00:50:52.000 We are facing headwinds, and I'm not going to sit here and promise you that because Democrats are crazy, we're going to sweep through the House of Representatives because that would be a lie.
00:51:00.000 I got all kinds of people emailing in all the stupid stuff.
00:51:04.000 They say, I'm never listening.
00:51:06.000 Why?
00:51:07.000 They want you to sit down.
00:51:08.000 Not everybody.
00:51:09.000 Everything is going to be okay.
00:51:10.000 Exactly right.
00:51:11.000 They want you to sit down.
00:51:12.000 They want you to tell them everything's perfect and everything's great and life is perfect and the GOP is perfect.
00:51:17.000 And so when you sit down and you tell them you're too fat, it doesn't land well sometimes, but that's life.
00:51:23.000 I agree with that.
00:51:24.000 Listen, I say it all the time.
00:51:25.000 The gas price, like, I get who I am, I get where I come from.
00:51:28.000 I get, you know, I drive a large truck.
00:51:30.000 You know, when I spent 150 bucks at the pump, you know, last week filling up, I was like, eh, that's not ideal because if I'm pissed off, you know, If gas was even higher, it's not going to change my habits.
00:51:45.000 I'm not going to be like, hey, I'm not going to the cabin this weekend to save gas prices.
00:51:48.000 But if I'm pissed off, like the average American's going to be, you know, pretty upset about it.
00:51:52.000 And we got to address that.
00:51:53.000 John, what about you?
00:51:55.000 Well, I'm an Angel fan, so I'm used to disappointment.
00:51:58.000 But my audience hates it when we talk about all the failures that are going on in the state and they want to hear that things are going to get better.
00:52:06.000 They want to hear that California is going to be safe again, that the homeless encampments are going to go away, that we're going to be able to go back to living life like we used to.
00:52:17.000 And I can't say that because it's just not true.
00:52:21.000 And it's not happening anytime soon.
00:52:24.000 And it's not going to happen until people start voting differently.
00:52:28.000 The people who are in charge are not going to get better.
00:52:31.000 They're not going to see the error in their ways.
00:52:33.000 They're not going to try something new.
00:52:35.000 They're not going to try something different.
00:52:37.000 Unless and until the people of California vote differently, we're going to have to live with the same misery that we deal with on a daily basis.
00:52:46.000 And if you're someone who remembers how great it used to be, And how wonderful and beautiful the state was, and what we live with today, you don't want to think that it's going to be like this forever, or God forbid it's going to get worse.
00:53:00.000 You want to hear that there are brighter days ahead.
00:53:04.000 And I can't say that because I don't see that happening anytime soon, unfortunately.
00:53:09.000 Yeah, I was just doing another interview talking about how jokes and mockery, both of which you guys use quite often on your shows, are really more effective than a million policy arguments and white papers.
00:53:23.000 In your opinion, why is that?
00:53:25.000 And again, both of your shows demonstrate it, so you obviously believe it.
00:53:28.000 Well, it's not hard to flip through the dial or YouTube or Rumble or podcasts or however people consume things.
00:53:36.000 It's not hard to find somebody out there who is spewing right wing opinions.
00:53:42.000 And this is no offense to anybody else, but there's a ton of those guys.
00:53:45.000 There's a ton of them.
00:53:47.000 They are a dime a dozen.
00:53:48.000 It's very rare you can tune in to anything that actually makes you laugh.
00:53:52.000 Maybe stop and talk about pizza for five minutes so I can stop feeling terrible about the fact that communists are trying to destroy the country.
00:53:58.000 Maybe.
00:53:59.000 Maybe crack a joke.
00:54:00.000 Maybe call Pete Buttigieg the rear admiral.
00:54:03.000 Take a moment and give somebody a moment of levity because they're sitting in traffic, they're mowing the lawn, they're working construction, and you're on the radio walking through their day with them.
00:54:14.000 You don't have to kick them in the face the whole time.
00:54:16.000 Yeah.
00:54:17.000 Yeah.
00:54:17.000 No one wants to be lectured to all the time.
00:54:19.000 Yeah.
00:54:19.000 You can make the point without the lecture.
00:54:20.000 Yeah.
00:54:21.000 Exactly.
00:54:22.000 John?
00:54:23.000 Yeah.
00:54:23.000 I mean, for me, it's a little bit different because I'm telling what is fundamentally a sad story every day.
00:54:28.000 I'm telling them the story of the destruction of the state.
00:54:31.000 So, you have to be able to laugh at it.
00:54:33.000 Otherwise, you just want to rent a U Haul and move out with the rest of them.
00:54:38.000 You know, the other thing, too, is you go back and you look at Shakespeare and how he used to do his plays.
00:54:44.000 He always made the bad guys the funny ones.
00:54:47.000 He made the bad guy Falstaff, who got all of the punchlines and did the physical comedy.
00:54:54.000 And he did it on purpose because if the bad guy is funny, at least there's something redeeming about them.
00:55:00.000 It's not just someone who's evil, it's not just someone who.
00:55:03.000 Lives for your destruction, not someone who's trying to destroy everything that you love and care about.
00:55:09.000 Because if you don't add that humor to it, it's easy to just get depressed and just see the despair and all of those things.
00:55:17.000 If you make the bad guys funny, then at least there's some humanity to them and you can have fun with it when you tell the story.
00:55:25.000 It's hard to have fun with the story if you're just talking about someone who's pure evil.
00:55:30.000 Well, guys, I really appreciate it.
00:55:32.000 Great having you on as always.
00:55:33.000 Jesse, where can we learn about your show?
00:55:35.000 And then, you know, John, same thing.
00:55:37.000 Jesse Kelly show, and it's probably on your radio dial somewhere.
00:55:41.000 And I'm right, as Zondi.
00:55:42.000 Well, you can find that anywhere online.
00:55:44.000 Very nice.
00:55:45.000 John?
00:55:46.000 I host the John Phillips show with Randy Wang on KABC in LA, KSFO in San Francisco from noon to three.
00:55:53.000 And we also have the accountability podcast, which you can get online at johnnydon'tlike.com.
00:55:59.000 Really appreciate it, guys.
00:56:00.000 Great having you both on.
00:56:01.000 John Phillips, Jesse Kelly, you guys are great.
00:56:03.000 Everyone, make sure you guys check them out.
00:56:05.000 And appreciate it, guys.
00:56:07.000 We'll have you back on soon.
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