TRIGGERnometry - Jimmy Dore：＂They Won't Let the Great Unwashed Have a Voice＂

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00:00:30.320 Everything is happening in the United States.

00:00:33.220 It's to keep us divided because once the people wake up to who the real enemy is, which is the establishment,

00:00:40.100 meaning Joe Biden, Donald Trump, the Republicans and the Democrats,

00:00:45.200 and as soon as they wake up to that, that's when the establishment's in trouble.

00:00:49.040 So they have to keep us fighting.

00:00:56.280 Hello and welcome to Trigonometry.

00:00:58.760 Trigonometry. I'm Francis Foster.

00:01:00.580 I'm Constantine Kissin.

00:01:02.020 And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

00:01:07.780 Delighted to say our brilliant guest today is a comedian, YouTuber, and political commentator, Jimmy Dore.

00:01:12.900 Welcome to Trigonometry.

00:01:14.540 My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

00:01:15.980 It's a great pleasure to have you on.

00:01:18.040 Listen, one of the things we've been talking about a lot on the show is how the polarization we saw politically in the last few years has now made its way into the COVID conversation.

00:01:28.260 I know that you and I and Francis have all found that in our case, we recently had COVID and some people thought that even talking about having COVID is like selling out and we're sponsored by Pfizer now, which is, of course, you know, nonsense.

00:01:43.620 It's Moderna. But with you, it was even weirder because you got the jab, you got double jabbed and people were like, well, you trust the government now?

00:01:53.920 And you were like, no, I trust my doctor.

00:01:55.440 And then you had some side effects from the vaccine, which were quite serious, I understand.

00:02:00.280 And when you talked about it, people like you were anti-vax for talking about.

00:02:04.800 So so what do you make of this whole place that we find ourselves in?

00:02:09.580 Yeah, it's remarkable how they can turn everything into the culture wars in the United States.

00:02:15.920 And right now, there's a big interest in the United States in keeping America fighting each other.

00:02:22.940 And there is the problem wasn't Trump.

00:02:26.660 The problem was that the Trump supporters flex their muscle, just like the people did in Britain when they passed Brexit.

00:02:36.020 And so they can't let the great unwashed have a voice in politics. 1.00

00:02:42.080 And that's so that's why these culture wars in the United States have been ramped up like crazy.

00:02:48.100 And everything is a culture war. And they're afraid of people like Joe Rogan and me who actually speaks to a broad audience.

00:02:58.360 So they've tried to make the fact that I appeal, you know, I'm a populist.

00:03:05.400 And the fact that I try to work with people who wouldn't wouldn't be considered lefty because we agree on issues like ending wars,

00:03:16.420 getting health care to people, police brutality, stuff like that, you know, student debt, marijuana, all kinds of stuff that we agree on across the aisle, as they used to say.

00:03:30.420 And that used to be a good thing. But now that actually scares the shit out of the establishment. 0.82

00:03:35.180 So anybody in the United States who tries to actually force change against the establishment by working together on ideas instead of politics, that scares them.

00:03:53.420 So when I had a thing to get them to vote on, it was called forced to vote here in the United States.

00:04:02.080 And I was going to get them to try to get them to flex their muscle to force a vote in the Congress to bring Medicare for all to everybody in the United States.

00:04:13.340 You know, we don't have that because our our government is run by corporations.

00:04:18.040 We live in an oligarchy. And that's not hyperbole. Those are facts.

00:04:22.100 Those have been proven by a Princeton study. We live in an oligarchy.

00:04:26.120 We don't have a democracy. Our democracy was stolen from us a long time ago.

00:04:30.320 And now they want to pretend that what happened on January 6th was a threat to our democracy.

00:04:37.560 We don't have a democracy. That was a threat to our oligarchy. 0.99

00:04:40.860 But it wasn't really a threat at all. But so everything is happening in the United States.

00:04:46.620 It's to keep us divided, because once the people wake up to who the real enemy is, which is the establishment, meaning Joe Biden, Donald Trump, the Republicans and the Democrats.

00:04:58.980 And as soon as they wake up to that, that's when the establishment's in trouble.

00:05:02.940 So they have to keep us fighting. And everything now is a culture war and including the vaccines.

00:05:08.240 Right. And everybody on the left decided to be uncritical of the vaccines, the vaccine mandate, of Pfizer, of Dr. Fauci, of anything that has to do with covid policy.

00:05:25.980 If you have a critique of it, you're immediately slammed as an anti-vaxxer.

00:05:30.780 Look what happened to Eric Clapton. Eric Clapton got the vaccine, got injured by the vaccine.

00:05:37.620 And immediately he's the worst person in the world because he told people about his reaction to the vaccine.

00:05:45.860 That's not how science is supposed to work. It happened to me, too.

00:05:48.840 So when I got injured by the vaccine, I was still sick about five weeks after my second jab.

00:05:55.280 And so I tweeted it out. I said, hey, I'm still having all these symptoms.

00:05:59.900 And people started calling me anti-vax and a liar.

00:06:03.900 And, you know, that's not how science works.

00:06:07.080 We know that there are adverse reactions to vaccines.

00:06:11.720 That's why there's a thing called VAERS. And so you're supposed to go report them.

00:06:16.040 Everybody knows. And what helps make science better is people telling you their reactions to medicines and vaccines.

00:06:23.800 And so you can make them better. But that's not what this is about.

00:06:27.360 This is about you shutting up and going along with the corporate narrative.

00:06:31.780 And if you don't, you're going to get in trouble. You're going to get it's a cult.

00:06:34.920 What has happened in the United States is the Democratic Party became a cult under Donald Trump.

00:06:41.120 And they pushed an evidence free conspiracy theory called Russiagate for four straight years.

00:06:46.260 They didn't accept the results of the 2016 election.

00:06:49.780 They said Donald Trump was a traitor to our country.

00:06:52.200 He was working for Russia and the election was rigged.

00:06:57.100 And there was a coup that happened in our country and Russia committed it along with Donald Trump.

00:07:02.180 So as soon as Donald Trump loses his election, he starts saying the same thing.

00:07:07.620 And that's illegal. You can't do that.

00:07:10.880 The Democrats and the establishment did it for four straight years.

00:07:14.160 But as soon as Donald Trump and the Republicans do the exact same thing, that's illegal.

00:07:19.800 You can't do that. You can't you can't mention it on YouTube.

00:07:22.700 You can't you're considered a conspiracy nut and you'll have your channel taken down.

00:07:26.480 In fact, Primo Nutmeg, he did have a video taken down and or Primo Radical, he calls himself now, because he just took a question about January 6th and about voter fraud.

00:07:42.160 And anyway, so that's how so when they have to censor like that, that tells me they're afraid.

00:07:48.320 And they don't censor people who are actually crazy and don't give it and don't have anything to say.

00:07:54.900 I remember when they started censoring, it was just going to be Alex Jones and everybody was for it on the left. 1.00

00:08:00.440 And I'm like, you fucking morons. You're an independent news space on YouTube. 1.00

00:08:05.980 Don't you think this is going to you don't see how this works?

00:08:08.580 You have no sense of history.

00:08:11.060 And I said this on the Young Turks to the to one of the COOs of the Young Turks on air. 1.00

00:08:17.580 I said, you're an idiot, because as soon as you say something that goes against the establishment, they're going to come for you. 1.00

00:08:23.660 And now look who's going to getting censored. 1.00

00:08:26.740 Everybody's getting censored.

00:08:27.920 It went from Alex Jones.

00:08:29.220 Now it goes to the guy who invented the mRNA vaccine technology.

00:08:33.460 Now he's not allowed to talk on social media anymore.

00:08:36.960 So it started with Alex Jones.

00:08:38.660 It went to RFK Jr.

00:08:40.680 They banned a Kennedy.

00:08:42.020 Then they banned Donald Trump, a president of the United States.

00:08:46.120 And now they're banning the guy who invented the mRNA vaccine technology.

00:08:49.960 And the Democrats are cheering it on.

00:08:52.420 The people who consider themselves left.

00:08:54.980 But if you're voting for Joe Biden, you're voting for an extreme right winger.

00:08:58.760 And that's what people in America don't understand.

00:09:01.620 In any other country, Joe Biden would be considered an extreme right winger.

00:09:07.200 Why would you say that, Jimmy?

00:09:08.460 Because he's against universal health care.

00:09:10.720 If anybody in any other country is against universal health care, I'm pretty sure they're considered an extreme right winger.

00:09:17.260 So this is the world we're living in now, where everything is politicized in the United States.

00:09:21.760 And then the people who voted for Joe Biden repeat the establishment narrative that fuels this culture war.

00:09:27.680 Kyle Rittenhouse is a perfect example.

00:09:29.720 Kyle Rittenhouse, they shot three people in Kenosha, Wisconsin, during a riot where they were setting buildings on fire and people were attacking him.

00:09:42.320 He shot three of them. 0.58

00:09:43.380 It was they called him a racist and a white supremacist for a year straight. 0.96

00:09:48.860 And then the trial happened and nobody realized he had only shot white people. 0.96

00:09:53.600 And he had only shot white people who were attacking him. 0.99

00:09:56.560 And I said, boy, he must be a real remedial white supremacist because he only shoots white people. 0.99

00:10:02.800 He doesn't. 0.99

00:10:03.280 Maybe he's calling blind and he doesn't know how to be a good white supremacist. 0.69

00:10:07.140 So and just saying that, just me saying that Kyle Rittenhouse shot three white people, people call me a right winger for saying that. 0.70

00:10:16.080 I'm not kidding.

00:10:17.380 So the biggest, the most attention I got, and that's why I go by Jimmy the Dirtback Left, was when I had on what they call a boogaloo boy. 0.97

00:10:26.800 Now, boogaloo boys are different from proud boys.

00:10:28.940 Proud boys are known to be a very extreme white nationalist group of far right political types, right?

00:10:38.860 Hang on a second, Jimmy.

00:10:40.200 I don't know a lot about the proud boys, but isn't there a leader Latino?

00:10:44.860 Isn't he like a Puerto Rican dude? 0.99

00:10:46.300 I don't know anything.

00:10:46.880 I really don't know much about the proud boys.

00:10:49.380 I had a boogaloo boy on. 0.98

00:10:51.160 So I saw, I brought on a boogaloo boy. 1.00

00:10:53.280 Now, the boogaloo boys were invented as a reaction to the proud boys, right? 0.98

00:10:58.500 There are people who are gun nuts and they're called, they call themselves libertarians, but they're, they're anti-racist.

00:11:05.700 They're pro-Black Lives Matter.

00:11:07.460 They provided security for Black Lives Matter protests.

00:11:12.640 They're, they're pro-LGBTQ. 0.96

00:11:15.340 In fact, the guy I interviewed was gay.

00:11:18.600 And they were reaching out to people across every political spectrum in peace.

00:11:24.200 And they said, we need to come together.

00:11:26.200 So I brought that guy on my show.

00:11:27.720 I interviewed him.

00:11:28.780 That's when I got all these hit pieces written on me in New York Magazine, Newsweek.

00:11:33.360 They all came out and wrote these, these hit pieces.

00:11:36.040 And then they, I trended on Twitter for three days because they had all their trolls on Twitter come after me.

00:11:42.760 And, uh, that made me trend for three days.

00:11:45.040 I loved it.

00:11:45.840 Um, and attention is great.

00:11:48.660 Uh, so Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, can I, can I ask you a question?

00:11:51.820 Because I feel you and I are quite similar where we are politically.

00:11:55.800 So a little bit of background about me.

00:11:57.640 I was a standup comedian for 11 years.

00:11:59.880 Before that, I was a teacher for many years.

00:12:02.300 I worked in some of the poorest boroughs in London with kids, you know, real, real desperate situations, real poverty.

00:12:10.780 I have never been described by anybody, particularly my friends on the right, as being on the right.

00:12:16.880 But immediately you start questioning the left narrative.

00:12:22.040 You question, like, I had a friend jump down my throat because I took the piss out of Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:12:27.820 Right? 0.82

00:12:28.060 You can't tell you.

00:12:29.500 Why is that?

00:12:30.500 Why is it that they have a narrative?

00:12:33.960 It's a cult.

00:12:34.500 Go for it.

00:12:35.020 Explain. 1.00

00:12:35.820 Because it's a goddamn cult. 1.00

00:12:36.900 Well, it happened to me when I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:12:39.220 The Democratic Party and the DNC, the Democratic National Committee, and Hillary Clinton were revealed through WikiLeaks to be completely corrupt.

00:12:47.300 And they rigged the 2016 primary, which is why three people had to step down from the DNC, including the chair, when it was revealed.

00:12:55.840 And I was like, I'm not voting for this.

00:12:58.580 I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:13:01.000 She's the worst.

00:13:01.960 And, you know, eight years of Barack Obama, so that there's Barack Obama governed exactly like Ronald Reagan would have or or John McCain or Mitt Romney.

00:13:14.920 There was no difference between Barack Obama and a Republican.

00:13:18.140 He ramped up the wars.

00:13:19.840 He took us from two wars to seven.

00:13:22.100 He deported more Hispanics and put those kids in case deported more Hispanics than Donald Trump did by double.

00:13:28.520 Uh, and so it's just he puts a pretty face on the horrible stuff our government was doing.

00:13:34.460 And so I'm I'm not going to vote for Hillary Clinton to put a nice face on the horrible stuff we're doing.

00:13:41.440 I'm not doing that anymore.

00:13:42.700 I'm not going to vote for Joe Biden. 0.99

00:13:44.520 Joe Biden is just Donald Trump, but demented.

00:13:50.460 I think we will lead with that quote for this interview, Jimmy.

00:13:53.540 Listen, you're making some very interesting points, and I almost regret having asked you about COVID because I'm tired of talking about it and the points you're making are far more interesting to me.

00:14:03.620 So let's delve more into that, because you talked about how America is not a democracy.

00:14:08.560 You talked about a Princeton study to the people that already are aware of you and your positions that that will make sense.

00:14:15.620 But to a lot of our audience, I don't think they've ever heard that.

00:14:18.280 So what the hell are you talking about when America is the beacon of democracy and everyone in the world looks up to America?

00:14:25.000 Like what what's wrong with American democracy, Jimmy?

00:14:28.300 Well, American democracy runs on cash and the cash comes from corporations and billionaires.

00:14:34.220 And that's who they serve.

00:14:35.800 So if you remember, Noam Chomsky wrote a book called Manufacturing Consent, taught you how the establishment news actually just manufactures consent for the people who own them.

00:14:46.360 And that's the same thing for the politicians.

00:14:49.140 They're owned.

00:14:50.580 So they can't run without cash.

00:14:53.340 And we have forever political campaigns.

00:14:57.200 So so politicians are forever fundraising.

00:15:00.620 Joe Biden's first campaign stop was with a bunch of executives from Comcast.

00:15:07.140 Right.

00:15:07.580 Which is always voted the worst company to work for in the world.

00:15:11.060 Comcast is a huge media company in the United States.

00:15:13.560 And he promised them that nothing will fundamentally change.

00:15:17.360 And it's not.

00:15:18.860 We don't have a living wage.

00:15:20.420 We don't have student debt relief.

00:15:22.000 We don't have health care.

00:15:23.680 We don't even have a public option.

00:15:25.460 And Joe Biden has more deaths with the vaccine than Donald Trump had without.

00:15:30.060 So their politicians are beholden to their donor class.

00:15:35.440 We call it the donor class.

00:15:36.480 And those are the oligarchs.

00:15:37.640 And they'll even say it.

00:15:40.040 I did a segment one time where a billionaire was on MSNBC complaining and warning Nancy Pelosi that if she doesn't stop demonizing billionaires, he's going to take their money away from the Democratic Party.

00:15:54.760 And so they give orders to politicians who does the billionaire class, Wall Street. 0.99

00:16:00.900 Those are the people who run our country, which is why 80 percent of workers live paycheck to paycheck in the United States.

00:16:08.340 Thirty 50 percent of all wage earners earn less than thirty thousand dollars a year.

00:16:13.340 And 50 percent of Americans can't afford a four hundred dollar emergency.

00:16:19.020 So that's what happens.

00:16:20.360 So I always try to tell people, what what do you call a system that takes the richest country the face of the earth has ever seen and deems half of it people poor or low income?

00:16:31.140 You call that a failed system.

00:16:33.120 And so we're living in a failed system.

00:16:35.000 It's an oligarchy.

00:16:35.800 They did a study in Princeton and it revealed that the if you are in the bottom 90 percent of wage earners, if your desires is never reflected in legislation.

00:16:50.540 But let's say if you're in the upper 10 percent of the wealthy in the United States and let's say so there's a direct correlation.

00:16:58.620 If they want something, it becomes legislation.

00:17:01.320 The bottom 90 percent, it doesn't become legislation.

00:17:04.160 They have no no representation, basically.

00:17:07.360 And so that's why I say we live in an oligarchy.

00:17:09.700 It was proven.

00:17:10.480 We all know it, but it had to be proven through a study.

00:17:13.480 They proved it.

00:17:14.700 And so our democracy has been taken.

00:17:17.200 We should have health care.

00:17:19.720 Republicans and Democrats both favor a single payer health care system in the United States.

00:17:25.320 They won't even not only will they not vote on it or give it to us, they won't even talk about it.

00:17:30.420 They're not even talking about it.

00:17:32.160 So that's what that's what I mean when I say we live in an oligarchy.

00:17:36.220 And I see.

00:17:37.960 And what's interesting to me is obviously the reason people accuse you of being right wing is you're happy to go on a show like Tucker Carlson or talk to people who are who you agree with on certain issues.

00:17:49.540 Right.

00:17:50.160 Do you not worry?

00:17:52.160 And I'm curious because I'm not making this accusation, but I'm curious whether you don't worry about working with people on whom with whom you might disagree on some other very profound issues.

00:18:02.580 Uh, no, I don't worry about that.

00:18:07.500 If anybody's against war, I'll work with them to end war. 0.91

00:18:10.560 If anybody is for Julian Assange and press freedom, I'll work with them.

00:18:14.620 And if half the country needs to hear that message, I'll go on a show that speaks to half the country to give my message to them.

00:18:21.340 Tucker Carlson said when I the one of the last times I was on a show, he said that I changed his mind on Julian Assange through the power of my arguments.

00:18:30.260 And that's exactly what used to be the gold standard as a lefty is that you're supposed to have a message for people.

00:18:37.140 You're supposed to have a message for people who are disaffected and being oppressed by the establishment.

00:18:42.020 You're supposed to have a message for him.

00:18:43.600 But in the United States now, like when I brought on that guy who was a boogaloo boy, that was the end because that was the left populist left and the populist right coming together. 1.00

00:18:51.920 And that's the thing that scares them the most.

00:18:54.200 So they had to stop that.

00:18:55.740 And when I go on Tucker Carlson, that's me, the populist left speaking to the populist right.

00:19:00.820 And they can't have that.

00:19:02.200 So they got to stop that.

00:19:03.560 You know, Democrats have been going on Fox News forever.

00:19:06.340 I mean, Bill O'Reilly had on Barack Obama.

00:19:09.320 Dianne Feinstein used to be a regular on Fox News Sunday. 0.98

00:19:14.220 They go on.

00:19:14.980 Everybody goes on Fox News because they speak to half the country.

00:19:18.000 But as soon as you go on Fox News to actually bring an anti-establishment message to half the country, that's when it's right wing and you're a bad person and you're supporting all the bad things in the world.

00:19:29.260 And people like to make Tucker Carlson out to be worse than Nancy, than Rachel Maddow. 1.00

00:19:36.440 No, I don't.

00:19:37.520 Rachel Maddow pushed an evidence-free conspiracy theory that red-baited the president of the United States. 1.00

00:19:42.940 She's for censorship. 1.00

00:19:44.580 She's for our foreign entanglements. 1.00

00:19:47.040 She's pro-war, which makes her – she's got blood on her hands.

00:19:52.460 And she props up the system that gives us these wars. 1.00

00:19:55.120 And she lies to the American people on the regular. 1.00

00:19:57.840 She's lying about COVID at nuclear speed at the top of her lungs all the time.

00:20:02.880 And, of course, it'll never get censored because she's lying to prop up the corporate narrative. 0.97

00:20:09.640 So if you lie at the behest of the establishment, there's never a price to pay.

00:20:13.020 But if you tell the truth that blows up the narrative of the establishment, that's when you'll be taken down and you'll be smeared.

00:20:19.720 Look what they do to Glenn Greenwald now.

00:20:21.520 Look what they do to Matt Taibbi.

00:20:23.840 Look what they do to anybody who challenges the establishment status quo. 0.98

00:20:28.680 You're immediately deemed a white nationalist, a racist, a right-winger, a grifter. 0.94

00:20:34.240 They have to do that. 0.98

00:20:35.060 That's – it's amazing.

00:20:36.960 All through COVID, I ended every one of my shows by saying, keep your money.

00:20:41.400 Nobody has a job right now because we're in a lockdown.

00:20:43.820 So keep your money.

00:20:45.200 At the same time, every other YouTuber was begging for donations and doing fundraising campaigns.

00:20:52.680 But then they called me the grifter.

00:20:54.600 I take – I don't take any corporate money.

00:20:56.460 I take my money from my donors and they can't stand – so that's how – so because I have broad appeal and people on the populist right share the ideas that I'm actually pushing for and I'll work with them, that's a threat.

00:21:09.700 And they have to stop that.

00:21:10.900 And that's the world we're in now.

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00:21:50.700 Oi, Gary.

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00:23:31.720 No, I'm mine, Gary.

00:23:34.760 Jimmy, why is it, right, that I look at somebody who still considers myself to be on the left?

00:23:42.560 What you're saying, practically everything, I agree with and I support.

00:23:47.080 Except they're not taking money.

00:23:48.540 Except I'm half Latin American. It's what we do. It's our culture. Stop judging, right?

00:23:53.300 Okay, but here's the thing, Jimmy.

00:23:55.000 Why is it that I look at people on the left, they don't talk about this.

00:24:00.040 They talk about identity politics ad nauseam and to the point where what they talk about has got no relevance to the vast majority of people either who live in America or in the UK.

00:24:14.880 The people outside the big cities, the average person struggling month on month just to make it to the end of the month.

00:24:22.840 Why is it they don't talk on that and why is it they focus on these ridiculous subjects that nobody cares about or only a tiny percentage of people care about?

00:24:31.880 Oh, because they've. So the establishment, again, in lieu of actually doing something to improve your life, what they do is they distract you by putting someone in power who looks like you to also suppress you and oppress you.

00:24:47.600 Right. So for the joke I do, if it was 1860, the Democrats would be bragging about their first transgendered slave owner.

00:24:57.920 And so that's what they do. And so the establishment is co-opted identity politics and they use it against people.

00:25:10.620 They use it to keep people from doing anything for them that would help their economics or their financial anything that would help. 0.98

00:25:17.300 So we're not going to give you health care, but we'll have we'll have a gay black person to keep it from you. Right. 1.00

00:25:23.920 Just that's what Barack Obama was. Barack Obama was the black guy to come do the bidding of Wall Street. 0.70

00:25:29.600 And so everybody got fooled because because it's a black guy. 0.96

00:25:32.700 You wouldn't think that he would be a tool of Wall Street, the military industrial complex, big pharma.

00:25:39.180 And by the way, Barack Obama said he wouldn't sign a health care bill that didn't have a public option.

00:25:42.760 He signed a health care bill that didn't have a public option that he never gave us.

00:25:46.140 But he gave us a right wing health care plan that is for profit.

00:25:49.500 And the minute that Barack Obama passed that health care plan, the stock prices of health insurance companies, a big pharma went through the roof because they knew that was a giveaway to them, not to people.

00:25:59.080 People still go bankrupt. I went bankrupt. I got sick. And I in the United States, I had a bone problem.

00:26:04.780 I went I had his health insurance. I went fucking bankrupt. Everybody goes bankrupt. 0.99

00:26:08.880 Everybody knows it. And that's why everybody wants to have universal health care, Medicare for all the United States.

00:26:16.260 Now, and I just I want to make this point before I go any further until Lawrence O'Donnell hosts a show here on MSNBC.

00:26:25.480 And he used to work for a guy who ran the Senate for a while. Right.

00:26:30.520 So he knows politics and he knows Democratic politics. And Lawrence O'Donnell said one time before he had a show, he said that you'll never get the Democratic Party to come to your point of view.

00:26:42.640 You can't pull them left until you're willing to show you're not going to vote for them.

00:26:47.760 And so that's the thing that they're not willing to do. So people who voted for Bernie Sanders voted for Hillary Clinton.

00:26:54.120 People who voted for Bernie Sanders voted for Joe Biden. And I tried to tell them until you're willing to not vote for Democrats and stop donating to them, you'll never have a change in government.

00:27:05.020 You're going to keep getting this. And so that's what I've been trying to start another major party.

00:27:10.500 Well, I've been helped. I'm not trying. Other people are doing it. I'm just trying to help them.

00:27:15.700 And that's in Ralph Nader made the same point in 2000. So 21 years ago, Ralph Nader said what we need to get is 10 to 15 million people.

00:27:24.280 Not that we can win the national election, but we can we are the kingmakers because nobody can get elected without us.

00:27:31.260 And that's what we should have did. We did it. Bernie Sanders is a charlatan because he preached revolution.

00:27:38.700 But what he did was he took all that revolutionary energy from the progressives and he funneled it right back into the pro Wall Street, pro war, anti worker party where it dies.

00:27:48.920 And that's exactly. So that's what Shama Sawan, who's an elected socialist in Seattle on my show.

00:27:54.240 She said that the road, the the the the road inside the Democratic Party for progressives leads to a graveyard.

00:28:03.060 So there's no there's no future in the. So if I want fifteen dollar minimum wage, I'm going to have to fight the Democrats.

00:28:09.340 If I want health care, I'm going to have to fight the Democrats. If I want to end the wars, going to have to fight the Democrats.

00:28:15.180 If I want immigration reform, going to have to fight the Democrats.

00:28:18.460 If I want prison reform, going to have to fight the Democrats.

00:28:21.220 No matter what you want to get done, there's a Democrat standing in your way.

00:28:25.720 And that's the problem. And one more thing I'd like to say about mandates is they don't make sense from a worker perspective. I had on a Marxist economist, Richard Wolff, on my show that said it's ridiculous that the left is pushing for mandates and ostracizing anybody who's any workers who are against them.

00:28:44.220 You're just pushing them into the hands of the right wing. We should be using those people who are against, who are anti-authority as in our political process and our political goal. But they're letting them go. That's one.

00:28:57.140 The second reason why I'm against mandates is because they've been lying to us about the effects of vaccines since they started.

00:29:04.400 First, they said that vaccine stopped the virus and they stopped you from transmitting it or getting it. Well, they don't do that. And they always knew that, but they lied to us.

00:29:14.900 And I just saw a headline today, the fact that from Australia, the fact that half the patients in the ICU are vaccinated proves that the vaccine is working. That's a real headline. I just tweeted out. That's a real headline.

00:29:27.340 Yeah. So if you can transmit the virus and you can contract the virus if you're vaccinated and every, by the way, here's another thing. People don't know. Everyone's going to get coronavirus.

00:29:39.520 There's no getting out of this. The virus is never going away and it's always going to be here.

00:29:44.380 They never tell you that on the news and they never tell you no matter how many fucking masks you wear or how many vaccines you take, you are still going to get that fucking virus. 0.99

00:29:53.080 And no matter how many quarantines or how many vaccine passports, you are still getting fucking coronavirus. 1.00

00:30:00.140 That is a bullshit tactic. And so if you're going to get the coronavirus, who the fuck do you and if and you can still spread it if you're vaccinated and you can still contract it if you're vaccinated. 0.99

00:30:12.020 Who the fuck do you care if you get it from someone who's vaccinated or unvaccinated? 0.99

00:30:15.860 That doesn't make logical sense. And when people, when I ask people that question, they start to do circular logic. 0.99

00:30:22.260 They talk in circles and there's, it doesn't make sense. So you're going to get coronavirus.

00:30:27.600 Who do you care if you get it from? What you should be doing is being prepared to get it.

00:30:32.020 And they never tell you that. How do you prepare to get it, Jimmy?

00:30:35.200 Well, you get your vitamin D3 way up. You get your vitamin K2 way up. You get your zinc up.

00:30:40.900 You get, you can find out where you can get monoclonal antibodies when you get sick.

00:30:46.360 They don't talk about or fluvoxamine, which has been proven to be.

00:30:49.660 And then they also suppress the early treatments.

00:30:52.500 They also, I urge everyone to go to the NIH's own website and look up ivermectin and the studies they did with COVID.

00:31:01.260 The best you can get is the CDC will say, well, there's not enough evidence to recommend for ivermectin or against it.

00:31:08.520 But they did tell everybody it was a horse medicine.

00:31:11.740 They did lie to everybody and tell everybody that a medicine that was on the WHO's list of essential medicines is somehow poison.

00:31:19.240 And you're a crazy person if you take it, even though it's one of the safest drugs in history.

00:31:23.400 And it's been prescribed over 3 billion times.

00:31:26.560 That's the power of big pharma's spring hold on the media in the United States.

00:31:30.960 And those are the same people who control our politicians.

00:31:33.300 So that's where we're at. 1.00

00:31:35.280 And that's why vaccine mandates are fucking bullshit. 1.00

00:31:40.340 Well said. 1.00

00:31:41.380 Yeah, well said.

00:31:42.160 And I'm glad to see you sitting on the fence, Jimmy.

00:31:45.480 Well, nobody can answer that question.

00:31:47.220 If there's a vaccinated person who has coronavirus, an unvaccinated person who has coronavirus,

00:31:54.340 why do you care who you get it from? 0.99

00:31:57.780 Because you're going to fucking get it. 0.99

00:32:00.200 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99

00:32:01.140 Look, we've made these very points, even in our episode where we talked about our experience of getting COVID.

00:32:06.160 We had it quite badly.

00:32:07.300 But one of the points that I think everyone agrees with now, especially with Omicron, which is so contagious,

00:32:12.760 has an R of 10, right?

00:32:16.400 Everyone's going to get it.

00:32:17.320 And so in addition to all the things you listed, you can lose weight, by the way.

00:32:22.120 You can get in shape.

00:32:23.120 All of these things that haven't been taught during COVID.

00:32:26.420 I lost 25 pounds during COVID just because I had to cook at home.

00:32:30.400 And they don't tell people that.

00:32:32.840 That most of the people who end up in the hospital are obese, elderly with comorbidities.

00:32:37.600 It's not healthy people.

00:32:39.220 Most of the people are obese.

00:32:40.320 They don't tell you that.

00:32:41.340 They don't tell you.

00:32:41.860 By the way, vitamin D3, all those, those make a huge difference.

00:32:46.460 Not a little, a huge difference.

00:32:49.160 Go ahead.

00:32:50.060 Yeah.

00:32:50.280 Well, Jimmy, I was going to ask you, one of the things that, look, I am not perfect.

00:32:54.800 And I'm biased in my own ways.

00:32:56.620 And I make mistakes.

00:32:57.580 But one of the things that I always do try to be and pride myself on being as much as I can,

00:33:03.260 and I fail, but I do, is to be intellectually consistent, right?

00:33:07.360 So, for example, if I were on the left, I don't know, two minutes ago,

00:33:11.440 and I believe that Big Pharma, the root of all evil and the evilest corporations in the world, 0.98

00:33:16.980 and they're all about money and they don't give a shit about actually treating people and helping them. 0.98

00:33:22.020 And then a pandemic comes along and Big Pharma comes out with a product. 0.97

00:33:25.680 I wouldn't necessarily immediately go, oh, Big Pharma's the best thing ever.

00:33:30.600 I think they're really looking after people.

00:33:32.580 But there seems to be a thing, and that's just one example out of hundreds, right?

00:33:37.460 Because when Donald Trump closed the border, that was racist.

00:33:41.760 And now we have The Guardian, the most left-wing newspaper in the country,

00:33:45.280 going, we need to shut the border.

00:33:46.560 And that people can seem to not be able to understand that there's a connection

00:33:51.940 between that same act, irrespective of who's doing it.

00:33:56.060 So what is it about the sort of that way of thinking that allows people to completely bypass

00:34:01.920 any previous things they've thought, any previous things they've said,

00:34:05.300 and just go, this is now the message.

00:34:07.900 I'm going to believe this now.

00:34:09.640 And it's counter to everything I've said for my entire life, but I'm okay.

00:34:13.100 So fear, I mean, that's how, if they can make you afraid enough,

00:34:18.160 if they can find your fear button, they can control you.

00:34:21.620 And that's what's happening.

00:34:22.800 Look at Noam Chomsky, he lost his mind. 1.00

00:34:25.560 Noam Chomsky lost his fucking mind, he's so afraid. 1.00

00:34:28.460 You see, he's afraid to go get his hair cut. 1.00

00:34:31.240 And if you believe in the vaccines, that's what, it's another thing.

00:34:34.180 If you believe in the vaccines, why are you afraid?

00:34:37.100 Why are you shitting your pants about catching the virus?

00:34:40.240 If you believe in the vaccine, 1.00

00:34:41.860 why won't you go get your fucking haircut if the vaccines work and you're going to mandate 0.99

00:34:46.160 that other people take them, which is what Chomsky wants to do. 0.99

00:34:49.860 He wants to force a medical procedure against people's will.

00:34:53.040 And if they don't go along with it, he said, we should isolate them from society.

00:34:56.740 And when asked, how do we, what about them getting food?

00:34:59.460 He said, that's their problem. 0.98

00:35:01.660 That's how fucking crazy Chomsky is now. 0.98

00:35:04.480 And I'm one of the only guys who'll call him out and his, his, 0.99

00:35:09.040 and he won't come on my show.

00:35:10.140 He'll go on anybody's show to answer questions. 0.98

00:35:12.840 He won't come on my show because he knows he's fucking wrong about this. 0.94

00:35:16.440 He's wrong on the science. 1.00

00:35:17.600 He was wrong on forced to vote for fuck's sake. 0.98

00:35:19.960 Anyway, he's, he's turned it. 0.98

00:35:22.200 Chomsky has really let a lot of people down.

00:35:25.600 He's every four year.

00:35:26.860 He tells you to vote for Democrats, no matter what, as if it makes a difference.

00:35:30.240 He said he had to vote for Joe Biden because of climate change. 1.00

00:35:33.180 Joe Biden just gave more fracking permits than fuck. 1.00

00:35:35.600 And more drilling permits on national land than Trump ever did. 1.00

00:35:38.980 It's all bullshit. 0.99

00:35:40.500 It's all, we, it's a one party rule. 1.00

00:35:42.520 And when guys like Chomsky pretend it's not, they're doing a disservice to everybody.

00:35:46.360 When he pretends the democratic party is somehow better, the democratic party is the enabler.

00:35:51.860 They're the pretty face of horrible corporate destruction.

00:35:55.180 That's what Barack Obama was. 0.97

00:35:57.080 Barack Obama was the black Santa Claus for wall street.

00:36:00.280 So, um, I forget your question though.

00:36:04.780 Don't worry about the question, Jimmy.

00:36:06.540 You're doing fine without me.

00:36:08.280 Um, Jimmy, here's a question for you.

00:36:11.720 I've always seen authoritarianism as being the problem, the rights problem by and large.

00:36:18.640 You know, when I grew up now, obviously, you know, the communism, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:22.180 But I've seen authoritarianism and the love for authoritarianism and the desire for vaccine

00:36:30.600 mandates spring up for people on the left, people who I would never have believed in my

00:36:36.880 wildest dreams, people like Chomsky.

00:36:39.820 They, that they would believe in this and that they would support these policies. 0.99

00:36:44.280 What the fuck has happened? 0.99

00:36:45.500 Um, I, it's fear is all I can say. 0.99

00:36:51.760 Uh, they've turned, they're pro censorship.

00:36:54.000 They did a poll, people who consider themselves lefty.

00:36:57.100 Again, you're not lefty.

00:36:59.080 If you voted for Joe Biden, Joe Biden's an extreme right winger, but people who traditionally

00:37:03.860 were considered left are, uh, now for censorship.

00:37:07.960 Well, when Hillary Clinton ran for president, uh, Chuck Schumer, who was the democratic party leader

00:37:14.820 in the Senate, he, he said on a, uh, talk show that they didn't care if they lost blue collar

00:37:22.900 workers as voters, as, as their voting base.

00:37:25.520 The Democrats said this, they go for every blue collar voter we lose, we're going to gain 0.65

00:37:31.620 two and three white collar Republicans in the suburbs.

00:37:37.580 That, so they're literally saying we're trying to get Republicans to vote for us.

00:37:43.380 And that's, and that's kind of what has happened.

00:37:46.400 The democratic party became the party of big business, wall street, the military industrial

00:37:51.100 complex.

00:37:51.960 And now we have two parties representing them.

00:37:55.340 Nobody represents the workers, nobody.

00:37:58.520 And so that's the, that's, and so that's where we're left with in America.

00:38:01.780 Again, I forgot the question.

00:38:03.280 Well, Jimmy, it's not just America.

00:38:04.740 I mean, we have the same problem here in the UK where the labor party, it's literally called

00:38:08.880 the labor party, uh, went from being, you know, people who went through the trade unions

00:38:14.600 and miners and, and train off, you know, whatever.

00:38:17.940 Now they're all, you know, highly educated.

00:38:20.600 They went to Oxford, uh, they studied politics and economics or whatever it was, or diversity

00:38:26.080 or whatever is the, you know, whatever is that they study.

00:38:28.740 Um, and that party, I think is less representative of working people than even the conservative

00:38:36.320 party, which got elected on the backs of working people in Northern areas, uh, and elected an

00:38:43.020 Old Etonian, like the very embodiment of privilege and a complete clown, as it turns out as well 0.91

00:38:48.060 in Boris Johnson. 0.86

00:38:48.760 Uh, but on that, so it seems to be not just in the U S this is happening in other countries 0.98

00:38:54.840 as well, where that portion of the left just really doesn't give a shit about the people 0.92

00:39:00.220 that actually used to form the base of their party. 0.57

00:39:03.100 Yeah.

00:39:03.580 And that's why guys like Donald Trump got elected.

00:39:05.980 And that's why I think, that's why I think things like Brexit happen.

00:39:09.280 They realize they don't have any political representation.

00:39:11.320 I know they don't, I'm not, I mean, I don't know that much about the UK.

00:39:14.520 I know Jeremy Corbyn, uh, uh, as soon as he advocates for the workers that he gets called

00:39:21.240 an anti-Semite, uh, you know, any way to smear him as you can, just like they do me.

00:39:26.300 I mean, that what, if, if, if you're actually going to advocate for workers, you're a threat

00:39:30.720 and they're going to try to smear you.

00:39:33.460 It's there's, there is no represent, I mean, neoliberalism, people don't know what that

00:39:39.140 is, but, uh, it's both.

00:39:40.920 We don't know what that is.

00:39:41.680 What is neoliberalism?

00:39:42.640 Explain it to us, Jimmy.

00:39:43.620 So to me, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's, it's, it's you, you're, it's identity

00:39:50.100 politics, right?

00:39:51.060 It's your liberal on all, on the surface, you know, the words of democracy, but you serve

00:39:55.120 the corporations and you don't serve the people.

00:39:57.560 And, and, and it's a, it's about imperialism, the United States, uh, about invading poor

00:40:03.760 brown countries, uh, stealing their natural resources, funneling them to huge corporations. 1.00

00:40:09.580 To me, that's, that's when I think of neoliberalism, that's what I think.

00:40:13.040 A liberal is supposed to be somebody who's anti-authoritarian.

00:40:16.520 A liberal is supposed to be somebody who's for the people's, for freedom, for freedom

00:40:20.320 of speech.

00:40:21.400 Uh, neoliberals are the exact opposite.

00:40:23.620 They're for censorship.

00:40:24.940 They're against workers.

00:40:26.480 They're against unions.

00:40:27.580 They're, uh, for the corporations.

00:40:29.540 I mean, to me, that, that's what I think of.

00:40:31.920 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:40:33.020 I'm not the smartest guy in the world.

00:40:34.620 I'm not an academic.

00:40:35.660 That's for sure.

00:40:36.780 I'm also a comedian, a nightclub comedian, entertaining drunks my whole career. 0.98

00:40:41.360 And then, uh, turns out the news is so shitty. 0.81

00:40:44.580 It's so corrupted in the United States that I can do a way better job than people who get 0.90

00:40:49.880 millions and millions of dollars to do the news.

00:40:52.300 The news is just propaganda in the United States, a hundred percent.

00:40:56.560 And the terror, and at the moment, Joe Rogan seems to be fighting his own personal battle

00:41:02.120 against them by platforming all the people, you know, who have their accounts taken down,

00:41:08.220 et cetera, et cetera.

00:41:09.320 How long can this go on for, Jimmy?

00:41:12.760 Because a populace and its citizens that no longer have faith in the media shows that

00:41:19.120 society is broken as far as I'm concerned.

00:41:21.980 And that's why Joe Rogan gets 11 million downloads per podcast and CNN gets less than a million

00:41:27.860 people watching theirs.

00:41:29.560 So, I mean, he's just destroying them.

00:41:31.540 And why?

00:41:32.560 Because he's not propaganda.

00:41:34.460 Joe Rogan is an honest, uh, actor and people sense it.

00:41:40.400 And, uh, he reaches across the aisle.

00:41:42.580 He, you know, he endorsed, uh, Bernie Sanders, but they want to make him seem like he's a crazy

00:41:47.480 right winger because that's what a cult does.

00:41:50.180 And the democratic party is a cult and look what happened to Sarah Silverman. 1.00

00:41:54.580 Look what happened to Patton Oswalt.

00:41:56.600 Sarah Silverman criticized an MSNBC newsreader for lying.

00:42:01.640 And she did lie and she was meeting and the, and the newsreader was African-American.

00:42:07.580 She was immediately pilloried as a racist, as a person, you would never say that to a 0.87

00:42:13.740 white woman. 1.00

00:42:14.300 And she had to apologize.

00:42:16.500 She had to apologize for criticizing a news person for lying.

00:42:22.660 She goes, I'm sorry.

00:42:24.300 She goes, I didn't, I don't want any trouble.

00:42:27.340 And they did the same thing for me.

00:42:30.400 And I said, guess what? 0.99

00:42:31.100 I'm going to take some fucking trouble. 0.99

00:42:32.580 I'm not going to knuckle under to the establishment. 0.99

00:42:34.920 I'll take the trouble.

00:42:36.200 I'm going to tell the truth. 0.99

00:42:37.360 And when a news person's lying, I'm not going to go along with the fucking lie. 0.99

00:42:41.220 And I'm not going to go along with the smear after I call out their lie. 0.99

00:42:45.440 And that's what they did.

00:42:46.520 Look what Patton Oswalt did.

00:42:48.100 Patton Oswalt took a picture with Dave Chappelle. 0.96

00:42:50.180 He had a, he had to fucking have him do a mea culpa because he took a picture with somebody 0.97

00:42:54.480 or he's out of the cult. 0.98

00:42:56.920 That's it.

00:42:57.620 Sarah Silverman, you're out of the cult.

00:42:59.440 Patton Oswalt, you're out of the cult and they will do anything to stay in the cult.

00:43:03.440 Isn't that the problem, Jimmy?

00:43:05.140 They do anything to stay in the cult.

00:43:07.720 Yes. 1.00

00:43:07.920 When actually people like us, people like you, people like Joe Rogan will say, no, fuck you. 1.00

00:43:15.000 And that means that we stand up and they become less powerful. 1.00

00:43:18.000 But the people who capitulate just make them more powerful.

00:43:22.360 Yes.

00:43:22.800 And that's sad.

00:43:23.460 And I, you know, I sympathize with them.

00:43:25.400 What are they going to, what are they supposed to do?

00:43:26.720 Not work in show business anymore.

00:43:28.500 They're in a tough spot.

00:43:29.920 I, you know, I blame the culture.

00:43:32.360 I don't blame them. 0.99

00:43:33.700 But Joe Rogan's kicking everyone's ass and he's not going to stop. 0.99

00:43:37.500 And people aren't going to, you know, I just saw it. 0.99

00:43:39.560 So they had these fake doctors, 250 doctors signed a letter to Spotify saying you should have

00:43:46.360 someone on to counter Joe Rogan's misinformation. 0.99

00:43:49.480 Meanwhile, mainstream news has been lying about COVID at the top of their lungs for fucking 0.99

00:43:53.740 two straight years. 0.99

00:43:54.680 And they lie about everything.

00:43:56.100 But they want to, but on Joe Rogan, it's a, it's dangerous because he has a counter narrative 1.00

00:44:00.700 to their bullshit. 0.95

00:44:01.900 They want him to bring out to, Hey, why don't you make MSNBC and CNN bring on Dr. Robert 0.99

00:44:07.100 Malone? 0.96

00:44:07.520 Why don't you ever fucking make that? 0.97

00:44:09.600 Why don't you ever make that demand that NBC and CBS, they, they have to have balance. 0.96

00:44:15.920 No one ever, they never brought on anybody to debunk Russiagate.

00:44:19.440 They never brought on anybody to hit a counter narrative to COVID mandates, vaccines, none

00:44:24.520 of it.

00:44:24.900 They have to go on Joe Rogan show.

00:44:26.460 And by the way, Joe Rogan, I've, I heard, I don't know how accurate this is, but I heard

00:44:30.500 that his interview with Dr. Robert Malone got 40 million downloads.

00:44:34.940 So by trying to censor him, they, again, it had what they call the Streisand effect,

00:44:39.520 which is when you try to, when you try to hide something and censor it and silence it,

00:44:43.640 you just get more attention to it and people, more people see it.

00:44:47.560 And that's exactly what happened with Dr. Robert Malone on Joe Rogan show.

00:44:51.180 And now they want Joe Rogan and Spotify to have balance. 0.94

00:44:53.880 Nobody else has fucking balance in the news media. 0.96

00:44:56.640 And the biggest purveyor of misinformation is the, first is the government. 0.99

00:45:01.360 And then the second one is the establishment news media.

00:45:03.580 Joe Rogan's not the problem.

00:45:05.160 Joe Rogan is the antidote to the problem.

00:45:07.540 Well, this is why I said recently, even though I do think both Peter McCullough and Malone

00:45:12.260 probably are wrong on a lot of things, in my opinion.

00:45:14.900 Now, I'm not a medic, but I do think that.

00:45:17.260 I still respect Joe for having them on.

00:45:19.780 And the reason I say that is, to me, the effects of this sort of censorship,

00:45:24.360 where essentially the big tech companies now decide what the truth is,

00:45:28.620 is far worse than someone going on a podcast and saying some things that may later turn

00:45:33.540 out to be medical misinformation.

00:45:35.080 I just, that's how I feel.

00:45:36.060 And the reason I say this is, I remember the day I woke up and I saw that the New York Post

00:45:42.500 had posted an article about Hunter Biden.

00:45:45.480 And then I saw that every single big tech company, this is on the eve of a pivotal election

00:45:51.900 in your country, Jimmy.

00:45:53.880 And every big tech company just went, no, you're not sharing this story.

00:45:59.240 It's Russian disinformation.

00:46:01.220 And let's be, let's call it what it is.

00:46:03.560 You know, people can talk about election interference, and I'm sure it happens both ways.

00:46:07.680 But that was blatant election interference.

00:46:10.380 And these people are now claiming that they know what the truth is. 1.00

00:46:13.540 Fuck you. 1.00

00:46:14.700 Fuck you. 1.00

00:46:15.820 And that's why I love what Joe is doing, even though I think some of the things that 1.00

00:46:19.240 these guests are saying are wrong, because someone needs to push back against this shit. 0.99

00:46:23.460 The government is always lying. 0.99

00:46:25.060 The CDC and the FDA are, the FDA gets 70% of its budget from Big Pharma when they have

00:46:31.000 to approve a drug or a vaccine.

00:46:32.900 It's, they're, they're not an independent organization.

00:46:35.660 And when Donald Trump was president, guess what?

00:46:38.660 Every Democrat was saying the same thing, that I don't trust the, Governor Cuomo in New

00:46:43.680 York said, I don't trust the process and I don't trust the FDA.

00:46:47.640 I do want to ask you about that, especially as it pertains to the vaccine.

00:46:52.000 We saw Dr. Fauci last night say that he trusts the experts at the FDA.

00:46:57.160 How confident are you in the approval process of the FDA right now?

00:47:02.040 Well, first, how confident am I?

00:47:05.600 I'm not that confident, but my opinion doesn't matter.

00:47:08.560 I don't believe the American people are that confident.

00:47:11.360 You're going to say to the American people now, here's a vaccine.

00:47:14.540 It was new, it was done quickly, but trust this federal administration and their health

00:47:20.640 administration that it's safe.

00:47:23.620 And we're not 100% sure of the consequences.

00:47:27.280 I think it's going to be a very skeptical American public about taking the vaccine.

00:47:31.760 And they should be.

00:47:32.360 He was, and they wanted him to be the next Democratic president before he got kicked out of office 0.95

00:47:38.120 for killing all those old people and sexually harassing everyone. 0.99

00:47:42.240 And Joe Biden said he was vaccine hesitant.

00:47:46.680 Kamala Harris said she wouldn't take the vaccine.

00:47:48.820 They all said a version of this.

00:47:51.640 And then all of a sudden Joe Biden becomes president.

00:47:54.060 Now they completely flip their tune.

00:47:55.920 And I'm supposed to believe them? 1.00

00:47:57.600 Joe Biden's a fucking pathological liar. 1.00

00:47:59.540 He's a bigger liar, he's just as big a liar as Trump. 1.00

00:48:02.800 And I've got the receipts to prove it. 1.00

00:48:05.120 The guy's, and he's demented. 0.87

00:48:06.720 And they're lying to us that this guy isn't demented. 0.87

00:48:10.100 And I'm supposed to believe them? 1.00

00:48:11.920 Fuck you. 1.00

00:48:12.560 Fauci's a criminal. 1.00

00:48:13.660 He should be in jail.

00:48:14.500 There's a movie called the Dallas Buyers Club, which stars Matthew McConaughey. 0.97

00:48:18.520 And it's all about how the government, Fauci, fucked over AIDS patients by keeping drugs

00:48:25.000 that can help them away, just like they did with COVID. 0.88

00:48:27.060 They've suppressed early treatments with COVID, just so you know this.

00:48:31.460 And they're still doing it.

00:48:34.080 And they still won't tell you about vitamin D, vitamin C, vitamin K2, zinc, monoclonals. 1.00

00:48:40.860 They'll never mention that shit. 0.99

00:48:42.680 But what do they say ad hominem? 1.00

00:48:44.460 Masks, vaccines.

00:48:45.660 That's it.

00:48:46.340 Masks and vaccines.

00:48:47.640 Masks and vaccines.

00:48:48.700 That's all they say.

00:48:50.040 So I have a problem with YouTube.

00:48:51.840 I go, so what am I supposed to, because I'm not supposed to go against the FDA or CDC guidelines

00:48:55.980 and anything I say.

00:48:57.460 I go, well, what happens when they're lying?

00:48:59.360 Don't I get to call them out?

00:49:00.440 Because they're lying all the time.

00:49:02.140 And they go, no, you don't get to call them out.

00:49:05.740 And look, here's, that's the problem.

00:49:08.660 Because before you could go on YouTube and give an alternative account, a narrative.

00:49:14.060 But now that's not even an option.

00:49:16.140 Eight months ago or a year ago, if you had said, hey, listen, COVID probably came from

00:49:20.040 a lab and here are the reasons why.

00:49:22.340 And here are these very learned intellectual scientists who are going to explain that to

00:49:26.180 you.

00:49:26.640 That would be gone overnight.

00:49:28.840 Yeah.

00:49:29.040 And now we think that's definitely what happened.

00:49:31.620 Yeah.

00:49:31.880 Right.

00:49:32.200 And you're allowed to talk about it.

00:49:33.480 Now it's the truth again, Jimmy.

00:49:35.280 It wasn't the truth.

00:49:36.440 Now it is the truth.

00:49:37.540 Well, Fauci first said mask didn't work and don't bother.

00:49:41.080 And then two months later, he said, yeah, everybody's got to wear a mask.

00:49:44.480 And they said, well, you said nobody should wear.

00:49:46.040 He said, yeah, I was lying then.

00:49:48.240 He literally said that.

00:49:49.800 He goes, yeah, I was lying then.

00:49:52.020 Because I was afraid people would go out and buy masks.

00:49:54.700 And we needed masks for our hospital workers.

00:49:56.720 So I lied to everybody.

00:49:58.120 And that guy still has his job. 0.98

00:49:59.780 And I'm supposed to fucking believe anything that guy says. 0.97

00:50:02.860 And I'm the conspiracy nut because I questioned a guy who admitted he lied. 0.99

00:50:07.820 And that guy should be in jail. 0.98

00:50:09.300 How many people died because they didn't wear a mask and they got coronavirus and fucking died because of it? 0.99

00:50:15.800 You tell me. 0.99

00:50:17.100 So he lied about herd immunity and he lied about funding gain of function.

00:50:22.140 He lied to Congress, which he should be in jail.

00:50:24.500 Of course, he's lying at the behest of the oligarchs.

00:50:27.100 So they'll never they'll never even have a hearing.

00:50:28.820 You know, they never even had a hearing about the torture program George Bush ordered.

00:50:32.820 There was never even a hearing about they're literally ordering what's still going on.

00:50:36.600 They're still they're still they still have a torture facility in Guantanamo.

00:50:40.540 And, you know, that no.

00:50:42.420 So that's it.

00:50:43.500 We're done. 1.00

00:50:44.280 And the people who vote Democrat pretend that they're they're they're fighting fascism and authoritarianism, that Trump is some kind of crazy fascist. 0.97

00:50:56.400 No, you guys are actually voting for it and you're for it. 0.97

00:50:59.560 They're for censorship.

00:51:00.880 They're for authoritarian lockdowns.

00:51:02.780 And they've been lying to you since day one.

00:51:04.880 We're never getting rid of the virus.

00:51:06.740 There's no way to ever get rid of the virus.

00:51:08.460 Omicron presents as a cold.

00:51:11.380 And so Dr.

00:51:12.140 Robert Malone, when he came on my show, said this.

00:51:14.900 He said what you want to have the virus do is you want to vaccinate the people who are at risk.

00:51:20.980 You want to vaccinate the elderly and people with comorbidities and the obese. 0.99

00:51:25.080 You want to make sure you vaccinate them.

00:51:27.220 But you let the virus circulate in healthy people.

00:51:29.440 Then it will mutate to become more infectious and less deadly.

00:51:33.520 If you over vaccinate everybody, this is what Robert Malone said, if you over vaccinate healthy people, it's just like when you use too many antibiotics on farm animals and then it becomes resistant to the antibiotics.

00:51:46.380 And that's what will happen to a virus.

00:51:48.220 That's what he said.

00:51:49.080 And then it will mutate to become more deadly or more resistant to the vaccines.

00:51:53.740 And you don't want that.

00:51:55.120 And that's exactly the process that they're they're under right now.

00:51:58.140 Vaccinate everyone, boost everyone.

00:51:59.500 The WHO is strongly against first world countries using boosters.

00:52:04.480 It's on their website because they haven't gotten the vaccines to poor countries yet.

00:52:08.480 And why haven't they gotten the vaccines to poor countries if they think vaccines will end the pandemic is because there's no money to be made in giving the vaccine to poor countries. 1.00

00:52:17.240 You fucking chumps. 0.99

00:52:18.560 That's why that, you know, that Bill Gates, by the way, who was a college dropout. 1.00

00:52:22.980 Why are people interviewing him about a fucking pandemic or a virus or a vaccine? 0.99

00:52:27.260 Why? Because he's really rich and he controls the news media by giving them money. 0.99

00:52:31.840 That's why people are. 0.98

00:52:33.020 Why the fuck would we listen to Bill Gates, this guy who's got to. 0.98

00:52:36.580 He's the one who wouldn't let Oxford Oxford was going to give away their vaccine for free. 0.99

00:52:40.820 He said, don't do it.

00:52:42.740 And and they didn't.

00:52:44.560 And so now everyone's making millions of dollars or billions of dollars off the vaccine.

00:52:48.280 So that's who Bill Gates is.

00:52:51.020 And Bill Gates, also a good friend of Jeffrey Epstein. 0.88

00:52:54.660 So looks like he's a pedophile and a criminal and he's bought the news media.

00:52:59.780 And why are we turning to him for it? 0.98

00:53:02.100 He's not a virologist.

00:53:03.620 He's not even a college graduate.

00:53:05.920 Jimmy, before we go on, I should explain that here in the United Kingdom, we have very different libel laws to the ones you have over there in America.

00:53:14.700 So I am going to add the word allegedly in front of the words you said about Bill Gates.

00:53:20.440 That's what I said, it looks like.

00:53:21.500 That's what I said, it looks like. 0.99

00:53:23.880 It looks like he's a pedophile. 0.99

00:53:26.000 It looks like he's a pedophile. 1.00

00:53:27.500 I can't say for certain that he is, but it certainly looks like he's a pedophile. 0.99

00:53:31.740 And to be fair, we also can't say that he's not a pedophile. 0.68

00:53:34.500 We just don't know.

00:53:35.420 We don't know. 0.97

00:53:36.360 And it certainly looks like he's a corrupt criminal for sure. 0.88

00:53:39.260 A hundred percent.

00:53:40.380 But what we do know is that Windows is not a good operating system.

00:53:44.020 That we do know, Jimmy. 1.00

00:53:45.560 That's a fucking monopolist. 1.00

00:53:47.080 He's a greedy capitalist monopolist. 1.00

00:53:49.660 And of course, he's doing the same thing with his vaccines.

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00:54:56.040 Let me ask you this.

00:54:57.820 I want to ask you this question.

00:54:59.900 And look, nobody knows the answer to this.

00:55:03.020 But I'm going to ask you anyway.

00:55:04.280 But I'm going to ask you anyway, because you've been operating this space a long time.

00:55:08.920 Do you think that Spotify eventually are going to kick Rogan out the door?

00:55:13.020 No.

00:55:13.640 Where there's going to be...

00:55:14.920 Interesting.

00:55:15.720 Why?

00:55:17.160 So I don't think...

00:55:18.600 People don't realize this, that Joe Rogan had his show on YouTube.

00:55:23.720 YouTube is owned by Google.

00:55:26.040 Guess who owns Spotify?

00:55:28.100 Google.

00:55:29.820 So they wanted to take him off of YouTube because he's getting too much heat, but they

00:55:34.500 didn't want to lose his revenue.

00:55:35.880 So they put him over on Spotify.

00:55:38.060 So now, because they were writing articles about YouTube and getting them, the advertisers

00:55:43.580 nervous about advertising on YouTube.

00:55:45.980 So they were like, let's take care of this.

00:55:47.620 Let's make sure we can get all the money.

00:55:49.100 And that's put him on Spotify, get all the money from Joe Rogan without having to worry 0.89

00:55:54.340 about advertisers and shit like that. 0.96

00:55:57.060 That's what that was. 0.95

00:55:59.700 Isn't that interesting to know that Spotify is owned by Google?

00:56:02.660 Google also owns YouTube.

00:56:03.160 I didn't know that.

00:56:03.860 I didn't know that.

00:56:04.740 I didn't know that.

00:56:05.300 Now, that makes a lot of sense.

00:56:06.880 So you think the numbers talk, Joe does huge numbers, and they're just going to let him

00:56:11.440 do what he does on Spotify.

00:56:12.480 Yeah, Joe Rogan, I don't, he didn't even need Spotify.

00:56:17.360 Like, you know, I mean, he could have just wanted to do JoeRogan.com and just, I mean,

00:56:22.720 he's that big that he's bigger.

00:56:25.100 I think he's bigger than the platforms that, you know, I mean, he's not bigger than YouTube,

00:56:29.440 obviously, but he's big enough that he doesn't need them.

00:56:33.560 And I think, I think, I mean, again, I'm not, I'm not a, I'm no business genius, believe

00:56:39.300 me.

00:56:39.600 I don't know, but I would, so I could be wrong about this, but I don't think Joe Rogan

00:56:44.940 needs a, a, a, a corporation to give him a platform, but he's that, I think that's

00:56:50.940 why he said he took the Spotify deal was because they kept demonetizing his videos on YouTube.

00:56:55.960 And so he goes, I do a show and then I don't get to make any money off it.

00:56:58.760 And they, like a bottom, and I got to, you know, I'm paying to make the show.

00:57:03.340 And, and so he decided, well, I'm going to, I don't want to be censored anymore.

00:57:07.480 I'm going to go to Spotify.

00:57:08.440 And so I, I wish, I wish Spotify would make me an offer.

00:57:11.900 I would go in a second because I'm tired.

00:57:14.800 It's really, it's really grating and it's exhausting to worry about being not only censored,

00:57:24.060 but worry about having your channel taken down because they already censored me already.

00:57:28.960 And, but they won't tell me what I did.

00:57:32.960 Yeah.

00:57:33.640 We have the same, we have the same time stamp in the video.

00:57:38.240 And they go, no, we can't.

00:57:40.120 Can you give me the words I said that you didn't like?

00:57:42.520 No, those are internal documents.

00:57:44.740 I go, you know, this doesn't pass the smell test, right?

00:57:47.100 That this sounds corrupt that you guys are just targeting me. 0.98

00:57:50.460 And if you won't give me the fucking receipts on what you said, I said, and they're like, 0.98

00:57:54.220 well, that's just the way it works for everybody. 1.00

00:57:56.080 And I go, I know that's why you guys are corrupt. 0.93

00:57:59.740 That's what I think, Jimmy.

00:58:01.400 I think it's actually worse than they are targeting you or us because we have exact same problems. 0.99

00:58:06.020 What's happened is they're a massive multinational global corporation that outsources this shit to a call center somewhere in India 0.98

00:58:15.420 where you've got a guy who doesn't understand the American culture or the American system or the British system 0.99

00:58:21.340 or freedom of speech or any of that, just making decisions.

00:58:24.480 You've got a 20, or it's a 20-year-old in Silicon Valley or whatever it is. 0.99

00:58:27.800 It's like one person has this tremendous amount of power and they don't give a shit. 0.98

00:58:31.920 They're not trying to work these things out on the basis of principles. 0.99

00:58:36.240 It's just a thing to them.

00:58:37.660 And I don't think it goes into some kind of massive conspiracy against voices like ours.

00:58:44.540 I just think we're not very important and they don't spend much time or energy on it. 0.98

00:58:49.160 And they don't really give a shit because they're a monopoly. 0.98

00:58:51.540 They don't have to explain anything to you or us because where else are we going to go? 0.99

00:58:55.860 No one is ever going to compete with YouTube.

00:58:57.800 If they get, you know, just like Rumble, right?

00:59:02.120 So Rumble's big thing is they won't censor you.

00:59:04.700 And so I'm on Rumble, but I told the guy when I was signing up that he was making the pitch to me.

00:59:12.820 Please, Jimmy, come, you know, use our platform.

00:59:17.180 We'd like to have you on our platform.

00:59:19.160 And I said, sure, I'm glad that you guys won't censor.

00:59:23.160 And he said, oh, we'll never censor.

00:59:24.920 I go, well, eventually you're going to censor.

00:59:26.420 And they said, no, we're not going to.

00:59:28.300 I go, well, yes.

00:59:28.880 I mean, if this works and it becomes really popular, YouTube's going to buy you and then it's over.

00:59:34.200 They go, no, well, we won't ever sell.

00:59:35.840 I go, everybody has a price and YouTube has the money. 0.98

00:59:41.060 You know, they're going to give, they fucking Facebook bought it. 0.93

00:59:44.120 What did they buy? 0.99

00:59:44.620 Instagram for?

00:59:45.760 They did.

00:59:46.480 They bought Instagram.

00:59:47.680 For like $20 billion, right?

00:59:49.540 And WhatsApp.

00:59:50.180 They bought WhatsApp.

00:59:51.920 I mean, who can resist $20 billion? 1.00

00:59:54.100 You can't resist fucking $20 billion. 0.99

00:59:55.340 Nobody can do that. 0.99

00:59:57.300 And so there will never be a platform to rival YouTube.

01:00:02.240 And so in the United States, what we need to do is nationalize YouTube just and make it a public utility.

01:00:09.160 Right?

01:00:09.600 So then all the same laws that apply, like free speech, we have free speech laws in the United States.

01:00:17.300 And that would apply to YouTube.

01:00:19.800 And then, so that's what we need to do.

01:00:22.060 And we need to break it up.

01:00:23.360 I don't know how they do that.

01:00:24.520 But people who are smarter than me say you can break up, break it up, like places like Facebook and places like YouTube.

01:00:33.040 Now, Google and Facebook, here's the thing that people don't realize.

01:00:35.700 In the United States, 70 or 80% of the people get their news from Google and Facebook, right?

01:00:43.180 So what does that tell you?

01:00:44.320 Well, it tells you that two companies control most of the flow of information in the United States.

01:00:51.580 That's not good for a healthy democracy.

01:00:55.020 That's actually bad.

01:00:56.500 And both of those places are censoring at the behest of the establishment.

01:00:59.900 So that's why we got to, however you can break them up, break them up.

01:01:04.200 But I say nationalize them.

01:01:05.980 And because right now they can take away someone's YouTube channel or someone's Twitter account or someone's Facebook account.

01:01:11.540 And what I try to explain to people that, you know, 20 years ago, everybody knew if you were going to open a business or be a public person, you have to have a phone, right?

01:01:20.720 You have to have a phone to be able to do business in the United States.

01:01:23.620 And that's why it's considered a public utility and it's regulated, right? 0.99

01:01:27.520 So AT&T can't take away your phone if they listen in on your conversations and they don't like the shit you're saying. 0.99

01:01:33.940 Oh, you're saying, Auntie, you're saying misinformation over the phone. 0.99

01:01:37.020 So we're going to take your phone away.

01:01:38.940 Nobody thinks that that should happen.

01:01:41.500 But they'll let them take away your Facebook or your Twitter or your YouTube because they don't like what you're saying.

01:01:48.120 Well, you can't run a business today without having a Facebook or a Twitter account and, in my case, YouTube.

01:01:54.700 All those things should be public utilities. 0.99

01:01:57.180 Because you can't function in today's society without them.

01:02:00.400 And so you shouldn't let a corporation dictate who gets to be in society and who doesn't.

01:02:05.520 If it's really a public square, which it is, social media is the new town square, you should be able to say whatever you want under the First Amendment protections in the United States.

01:02:15.480 But it turns out, you know, there's a quote that the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

01:02:21.920 And we are not vigilant in the United States because I had no idea half the country or even more of it would be yearning for censorship.

01:02:31.120 They cheer it on.

01:02:32.040 People with YouTube channels who are in the lefty news space cheer.

01:02:37.520 They say, I have no problem with YouTube kicking someone off if they violate their terms of service.

01:02:43.880 That's just shocking to me.

01:02:46.040 That's what YouTubers say who are in the space.

01:02:48.760 So, yeah, we're living in a we're living in George Orwell's 1984.

01:02:54.320 We're living in Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

01:02:57.100 It's here.

01:02:58.240 And like the frog in the pot, people didn't notice that it's now boiling.

01:03:03.920 And they're kicking people off.

01:03:07.980 They fired 72,000 health care workers in the middle of a deadly pandemic in New York because they wouldn't get vaccinated.

01:03:14.400 Does that sound like they care about people's health care when they're firing 72,000 health care workers, people who just worked through a COVID pandemic when there was no vaccine and they were heroes?

01:03:25.120 And now you're firing those same people, 72,000 of them in the middle of a deadly pandemic.

01:03:30.180 I don't think this is about people's health because they don't give us health care in the United States.

01:03:35.100 They give us a vaccine. 0.99

01:03:36.660 If it was about our health, they'd give us fucking health care. 0.99

01:03:39.700 And they're never going to do that. 0.99

01:03:42.800 A good positive note to end the show on, Jimmy.

01:03:45.620 We're running out of time, man.

01:03:47.100 Thank you so much for coming on the show.

01:03:49.240 As always, we're going to ask you a couple of questions for our locals in a second.

01:03:53.340 But before we do that, we have our usual final question for you.

01:03:56.560 Which is always, what's the one thing we're not talking about, but we really should be?

01:04:01.780 Well, I wish I knew.

01:04:04.920 The thing I find that people aren't talking about is you're going to get COVID, so get ready for it.

01:04:11.160 And here's how you get ready for it.

01:04:12.680 Get your vitamin D3 up.

01:04:14.260 Get your zinc up.

01:04:15.200 Get your K2 up.

01:04:16.500 Find out where you can get monoclonal antibodies.

01:04:19.320 Fluvoxamine.

01:04:19.900 Get a doctor who's willing to prescribe you things and not be intimidated by the CDC.

01:04:24.360 And the thing that no one's talking about is that everyone is going to get COVID.

01:04:29.000 No matter how many vaccines you get, no matter how many masks you wear, you are going to get it.

01:04:34.640 So you should prepare to get it.

01:04:36.160 And who do you care if you get it from?

01:04:38.040 A vaccinated person or an unvaccinated person.

01:04:40.720 And these mandates are not about health.

01:04:42.720 These mandates are to mandate that a corporation gets profits.

01:04:47.720 There we go.

01:04:48.820 Jimmy Dore, it's been an absolute pleasure.

01:04:50.840 Jimmy, if people want to find you online, where's the best place to do that?

01:04:55.820 JimmyDoreComedy.com

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TRIGGERnometry - February 06, 2022

Jimmy Dore：＂They Won't Let the Great Unwashed Have a Voice＂

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