She Put Him Up To This!!
Episode Stats
Harmful content
Misogyny
1
sentences flagged
Summary
In this episode, we discuss the difference between socialism and capitalism, the benefits of socialism, and the drawbacks of socialism. We also discuss the benefits and disadvantages of socialism and communism, and whether or not they are socialist or not.
Transcript
00:00:00.000
want to do you want to be on camera are you okay with that okay i had just finished one debate with
0.98
00:00:05.360
a different individual and then these two showed up and the girl was pushing the guy forcing him
00:00:10.560
towards me and saying hey hey can you help my friend here he's a socialist can you talk to him
00:00:14.960
i don't like socialism basically saying that she wanted me to change her friend's mind so i just
00:00:19.040
naturally assumed that the friend was socialist this is the conversation that resulted from that
00:00:24.080
um you guys can let me know if you think that he is socialist all right so um i like this to be like
00:00:31.120
a good open-ended conversation so why don't you tell me why you like socialism first and then i'll
00:00:36.960
try and make the case for capitalism i actually don't know too much about socialism that's about
00:00:43.680
it okay all right so but you would say that you prefer it am i correct in assuming that
00:00:50.540
I guess I don't really have any specific, I don't like really lean into any specific category.
00:01:02.740
So I would say like my claim is socialism is a scam.
00:01:07.480
So we've seen socialism tried like 40 times all across the world.
00:01:10.600
And every time it's failed, every time it's had to backpedal.
00:01:13.100
that's from like like moderate cases like Sweden and Denmark to even like big cases like Russia and
00:01:19.620
Venezuela they're all they're failing economies or failing populations and it has not socialism
00:01:25.520
has failed to fulfill on its promise its promise was that we would have equality for everyone and
00:01:32.460
everyone everyone would share all resources equally so socialism basically is public ownership
00:01:36.900
of private property yeah but what happens when you take away private property rights
00:01:43.280
you no longer have the incentive for people to be efficient and to actually like incentive is
00:01:49.000
basically the possibility of a reward and there's risk involved so like it's like investment if
00:01:54.640
so with socialism you don't have that incentive to go out there and create wealth right
00:02:00.900
so they believe socialists and you probably believe this that like i don't want to assume
00:02:07.300
anything but like you would probably agree that socialism is the redistribution of wealth
00:02:12.480
right so no rich no poor yeah so in in socialism they try and do that but what happens is the rich
00:02:21.780
they are they are the ones that create our jobs right so if we we think that they're oppressing
00:02:30.460
us because oh they're charging wage but they're like they're um they're keeping all this profit
00:02:36.500
right so we see see them oppressing us and so we just had to take away their money but that money
00:02:43.520
is actually invested in business that money is actually at work and creating wealth and creating
00:02:48.480
jobs so in every socialist country it always happens that an unemployment skyrockets because
00:02:54.420
we're no longer creating jobs and that's actually one of the reasons that sweden went into like this
00:02:59.980
huge financial crash in the 90s because they tried 20 years of high taxes on the wealthy and
00:03:04.560
inheritance and all the rest and they drove the rich from their country and it was applauded as
00:03:10.620
this great achievement that oh my goodness we've equalized the income gap and like the rich are
00:03:16.320
leaving and well like they didn't say that they just said we're equalizing the income gap and
00:03:20.340
no rich no poor everyone's everyone has enough but actually during that period for 20 years they
00:03:25.960
didn't add a single net job to their economy in the private sector it was all growth in the public
00:03:31.680
sector and and at the end it just all collapsed and they had like inflation to like five thousand
00:03:38.080
or interest rates like five thousand percent or something for a couple days so it was in the same
00:03:42.920
crash but that's what happens with socialism is that you drive the rich out of your country
00:03:48.460
and in a capitalist society what the rich do is they create wealth and jobs and the middle and
00:03:54.940
lower class we rely on them for those jobs so and so capitalism a lot of people misunderstand that
00:04:01.720
too um but capitalism basically is just the freedom of choice so i when people talk about
00:04:11.120
free markets i'm for free markets a market is just people making choices about what they want
00:04:16.660
to buy so a free market yeah um like yeah like i guess people are always acting in their own
00:04:24.100
best interest. Yes. So a free market is basically free people making their own choices. So capitalism
00:04:30.040
is just the freedom of choice. So, and a lot of people say that, okay, capitalism is actually
00:04:36.460
inherently oppression or something like that. The rich are getting profit. But let's just
00:04:41.460
do like an example. So say you went, you bought your lunch. Who is profiting there? Would
00:04:47.880
you take a guess i guess i'd say the the school i guess if i'm buying lunch here at mcmaster
00:04:54.940
okay but you got lunch so it's a win-win scenario for both of you right so there's not capitalism
00:05:05.100
is not a zero-sum game you win and the person you're buying from wins because then they continue
00:05:10.800
to create that service but if you take away profits if you take away the incentive to produce
00:05:16.120
a good service then are they going to produce a good service right so yeah at least from what
00:05:24.760
i'm picking up from like what you're saying it's like if you don't like incentivize any sort of
00:05:30.620
like creativity or like you know what capitalism does and instead you're doing something like
00:05:36.200
socialism where everyone has like same base pay and like same wages then there's no incentive to
00:05:40.980
do like anything mind-blowing or like creates revolutionary technology yeah
00:05:47.940
everyone just like they're just stuck here saying I could just go by the lowest
00:05:52.360
quote like standard like I'll just get passed right I'll still get paid yeah so
00:05:56.140
and I've had debates with quite a few socialists and one of them was that oh
00:06:00.480
we shouldn't need to pay for our necessities or something like that and
00:06:04.680
that claim was that we shouldn't have money and everyone should be able to
00:06:07.340
like get what they need but when everyone has what they need they no longer have the incentive to work
00:06:13.240
right right and work is what drives an economy it's what drives people and creates wealth so if
00:06:19.540
no one is going to create wealth like your economy is going to collapse and that's what tends to
00:06:24.160
happen with socialist countries so like that's the pitch that's why i think socialism is a scam
00:06:29.120
um but i'll just do you have any thoughts on it it's definitely an interesting take um i think
00:06:35.360
I have, like, heard some of these things, like, I guess, from my friends over a while ago, and, like, just thinking about it.