Valuetainment - April 16, 2025


“Federal Tracking System” – Kristi Noem’s REAL ID Plan SPARKS Debate Over Gov’t Control


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Rob and Chris discuss the Department of Homeland Security's push for Americans to get Real ID's. They discuss the pros and cons of the move, and what they would like to see the government do with Real ID.

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00:00:00.000 This one's kind of interesting, and I wonder what you guys will say about this, both of you.
00:00:03.900 Kristi Noem urges people to get real IDs to keep our country safe.
00:00:08.500 This is a Breitbart story.
00:00:09.620 Department of Homeland Security, DHS, Kristi Noem, encouraged Americans to get real IDs,
00:00:14.800 stating in a video on X, which, here's the clip.
00:00:18.120 Rob, if you want to play the clip first, and then I'll get into the rest of it.
00:00:21.540 Hi, I'm Kristi Noem, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security.
00:00:25.080 If you plan on traveling, we need your help to prevent delays and to prove your identity.
00:00:30.980 Get a real ID.
00:00:32.840 Starting May 7th, you will need a real ID to travel by air or to visit federal buildings in the United States.
00:00:39.600 These IDs keep our country safe because they help prevent fraud and they enhance security.
00:00:45.680 Please do your part to protect our country.
00:00:48.100 Go today and don't delay.
00:00:50.680 To learn more, go to dhs.gov slash real dash ID.
00:00:54.100 Thank you.
00:00:55.080 Chris, what do we know about these real IDs so far?
00:01:00.900 I don't know what there is to know that makes them suspicious.
00:01:03.980 I have one.
00:01:05.080 Eric.
00:01:05.560 Same.
00:01:06.240 It's a great idea.
00:01:07.380 This is obviously the precursor to requiring an ID to vote, which is great.
00:01:12.700 Tom.
00:01:13.440 I agree.
00:01:14.320 We've had real ID standards since Texas.
00:01:17.380 We have one with the star in Texas.
00:01:19.140 When I came down here, I noticed my new driver's license here had the star, and I think it's a good thing.
00:01:23.900 And by the way, I'll add something.
00:01:25.720 When I went from California to Texas and I surrendered my California driver's license, they say, I'm sorry, that's not an acceptable form of ID.
00:01:33.680 Why?
00:01:34.140 Because it's been compromised because you can get it as a general ID, and so we need a birth certificate or something.
00:01:39.680 So I actually went and got my Social Security card, tattered it was, in this plastic envelope.
00:01:45.160 I came back.
00:01:45.560 Is this good enough?
00:01:46.260 And this is my passport?
00:01:47.700 Yes.
00:01:48.000 But it was so funny that you couldn't get a driver's license in Texas in 2015 by trading in a California license because they said, that's not good.
00:01:57.420 So it's funny.
00:01:58.080 Yesterday, we were in a meeting, and one of our guys was like, man, let me tell you, this real ID stuff's a big concern.
00:02:03.100 You've got to be careful with it.
00:02:04.020 They're doing this.
00:02:04.560 He's kind of giving his own feel.
00:02:06.200 And then Danny Connell, Danny's like, do you have a Florida ID?
00:02:10.220 Yeah.
00:02:10.500 He says, you know if you have a Florida ID, it's a real ID.
00:02:13.540 He says, really?
00:02:14.160 Yeah, take out your ID.
00:02:15.300 He says, yeah, that star is real.
00:02:16.300 I said, oh, cool, I got a real ID.
00:02:17.740 It was the funniest moment for a second because at first it was like, hey, brother, skepticism is the lowest form of intelligence.
00:02:24.840 And that's us because we have it because they updated the system.
00:02:28.160 But I think forcing everybody to do it, it isn't about security or stopping fraud.
00:02:32.100 It's about control.
00:02:33.220 The last time we saw it was with the Patriot Act where they were locking down on everybody.
00:02:39.020 They're wrapping it in this polite language of we want to help you fly, but they're building a federal tracking system.
00:02:44.800 That's what it comes down to.
00:02:46.760 And they're making people do it.
00:02:48.120 You can't go into a – if you don't get it, Chris, you can't go into a VA.
00:02:52.300 You can't do any federal building, any federal court system, anything.
00:02:57.920 You can't go into the building.
00:02:59.060 And I think it's an excuse.
00:03:00.580 Well, what I'm saying is they're forcing people to do it because they want to track everybody in this sense.
00:03:05.160 So you need to have an ID to vote, but you don't think the government has the right to know who's in the country?
00:03:09.800 No, no, they know who's in the country, but a real ID, this is overstepping a little bit more because of all the stuff that you don't want it entails to get.
00:03:17.740 Yeah.
00:03:18.060 I actually have the form on my phone right now because I went for the enhanced one.
00:03:21.920 It's all regular bullshit information, Vinny.
00:03:24.160 There's nothing discreet in there.
00:03:26.340 I just think, you know –
00:03:27.740 Vinny, I got the form on my phone.
00:03:29.660 There's nothing different of it?
00:03:31.060 Nothing different.
00:03:31.520 So a regular ID, what's the upgrade to the real ID?
00:03:34.060 You got to show where you live.
00:03:35.760 You got to show a tax thing, a W-2, and your car registration.
00:03:44.880 So what's the difference between just your regular identification?
00:03:47.560 They have to know where you live.
00:03:48.880 They have to know – you know what I mean?
00:03:50.080 All your social everything.
00:03:51.380 You submit a couple of more things that prove who you are.
00:03:55.400 I mean, I think you got a little boogeyman going on here.
00:03:58.180 Anytime that they're trying to say, like, listen, this is the – we want this –
00:04:01.740 Let me ask this question, though.
00:04:02.820 Hold on, guys.
00:04:03.420 We had a podcast somewhere about a year ago.
00:04:07.020 Rob, I don't know if you remember this.
00:04:08.840 But this lady – her name is Candace, I believe. 0.99
00:04:11.660 And this other guy – what's his name?
00:04:13.420 Chris.
00:04:14.260 Yeah.
00:04:14.800 Do you remember these – there was, like, this moment on this podcast
00:04:17.880 where there was a conversation about IDs.
00:04:20.080 Yeah.
00:04:20.380 About voter ID.
00:04:22.240 Do you remember this – I'm trying to remember this podcast.
00:04:24.720 I do.
00:04:25.100 I remember fine.
00:04:25.860 Look, I get the policy arguments against wanting voter ID.
00:04:30.140 I get it.
00:04:30.680 Let me tell you this.
00:04:31.240 I get it.
00:04:31.800 Here's where I'm going.
00:04:33.060 Here's where I'm going.
00:04:33.680 Rob, if you want to – do you have it?
00:04:35.200 Just press the clip.
00:04:36.160 See if it gets to it or not.
00:04:38.040 But I just hope we don't get a flag for playing a clip from another channel.
00:04:44.260 Is that it, Rob?
00:04:45.100 Is that the part?
00:04:46.100 That's where it peaks.
00:04:47.060 Yeah.
00:04:47.200 Let's see it.
00:04:47.660 Let's see if that –
00:04:48.160 I'm 16 years old because I wanted to drive and pick up my boyfriend.
00:04:51.060 I get it.
00:04:51.380 I get it.
00:04:52.140 And those are the reasons people get IDs.
00:04:54.160 That's simple.
00:04:54.860 I love you, too.
00:04:56.660 I get it.
00:04:57.480 What I'm saying is –
00:04:58.940 Okay.
00:05:00.140 Two things can be –
00:05:00.980 I don't know when we're getting it.
00:05:01.660 It's a 30-minute clip.
00:05:02.760 If you guys want to see, go watch it.
00:05:03.700 Look, I get the arguments that they make against voter ID.
00:05:07.140 The people who won't have one who wind up not voting are the same people Republicans don't want to vote.
00:05:12.920 But this is about –
00:05:13.940 That's the political argument.
00:05:15.040 This is about –
00:05:15.640 It's funny because this kind of gets a conservative to be against it and gets a liberal to be for the ID.
00:05:21.420 I'm not a liberal.
00:05:22.340 Just hear me out for a second.
00:05:23.340 Hear me out for a second.
00:05:24.200 He said, what was the word I used?
00:05:27.500 It was a reasonable leftist or what was it?
00:05:31.820 Tolerable leftist?
00:05:32.760 Some word like that.
00:05:33.160 Common sense leftist.
00:05:34.420 But anyways, today it's a free agent.
00:05:36.580 It's a different story.
00:05:37.200 They're both chooches.
00:05:37.720 But check this out.
00:05:38.760 Check this out.
00:05:39.240 What if, Chris, they take the next step with these IDs? 0.78
00:05:43.760 What's the next step?
00:05:44.700 The next step is that 100% of people in America need an ID to vote.
00:05:49.740 Yeah, you're going to have a big political fight.
00:05:51.660 The left is going to say that you're disenfranchised.
00:05:53.740 And now they may have allies with Vinny.
00:05:55.180 By the way, that's the point.
00:05:59.280 You understand what just happened?
00:06:00.460 This was so funny what just happened right now because he's sitting here saying, what's wrong with the ID?
00:06:05.760 I'm like, it's more control and more databases.
00:06:08.600 I was never against it.
00:06:09.760 It's the government.
00:06:10.400 I was never against it.
00:06:12.580 You are funny.
00:06:13.460 I'm ready.
00:06:14.140 Hold on.
00:06:14.380 I'm so ready.
00:06:15.200 Wait, wait.
00:06:15.880 There's so many conservatives with Vinny on this libertarian saying, get out of my life.
00:06:20.740 And then, but wait.
00:06:21.860 Yeah.
00:06:22.360 Let's talk about gun registries then.
00:06:25.420 Well, now we don't want it.
00:06:26.580 We have a gun registry.
00:06:28.000 No.
00:06:28.440 When you go, there's a federal registry.
00:06:30.180 You and I both had to sign up.
00:06:32.320 Wait a minute.
00:06:32.880 That's not true.
00:06:33.660 When you buy a weapon, you have to fill out paperwork for the federal government.
00:06:38.100 They make a phone call and do a check on you.
00:06:41.200 There's a waiting period.
00:06:42.900 Depends on what kind of weapon and where you are.
00:06:45.320 You can purchase guns legally without having a background check.
00:06:49.460 Where?
00:06:50.980 Gun shows.
00:06:51.680 Gun shows.
00:06:52.260 Gun shows.
00:06:52.840 Look, that's the loophole, right?
00:06:54.580 Right.
00:06:54.740 But my point is, I'm a conservative.
00:06:58.100 I'm saying keep your registries off my Second Amendment.
00:07:01.900 Yeah.
00:07:02.360 Yet I also want a voter ID, a real ID to vote.
00:07:06.520 I mean, there's a bit of a hypocrisy there.
00:07:08.960 I'm just calling it out.
00:07:09.920 I don't think it's hypocrisy.
00:07:11.040 I think it's conditioning.
00:07:12.360 Okay?
00:07:13.620 I think that we are a gotcha culture, that you have to line up with a side.
00:07:18.020 And if you're going to go against the side, you've got to say something that kind of keeps
00:07:21.220 your legitimacy with them.
00:07:22.820 You know, like Yellen.
00:07:23.800 Oh, I agree with Yellen on this.
00:07:24.980 But she's a terrible leftist who was whatever. 0.94
00:07:26.900 You know, you've got to keep your dap with your side, which is part of the problem. 0.88
00:07:32.280 I'm telling you, when you buy a weapon, you have to go through the federal register.
00:07:37.520 Maybe not at a gun show.
00:07:38.840 I don't know.
00:07:39.140 I bought it.
00:07:39.640 I bought my weapons at stores.
00:07:42.140 But, you know, fine.
00:07:43.680 You want a background check everywhere.
00:07:44.960 I don't have a problem with that.
00:07:45.960 Most responsible gun owners don't.
00:07:47.940 Our beef is with how people keep their guns and let people get access to them and don't
00:07:52.540 store them safely.
00:07:53.580 And then you have bad things.
00:07:55.360 The voter ID, I'm just laying out to you what the resistance is.
00:07:59.520 The resistance is that you want voter ID because the people who don't have an ID are
00:08:05.060 the people who don't vote for you.
00:08:06.800 That's their argument against it.
00:08:08.080 Or the people who don't have an ID aren't citizens.
00:08:10.600 Don't belong in the country.
00:08:11.340 And that's the counter.
00:08:13.240 And then you get into the-
00:08:14.000 Well, it's a big counter, Chris.
00:08:14.560 It's not like a little, you know, caveat there.
00:08:17.120 Except that every time they-
00:08:18.560 The vast majority of-
00:08:19.160 We just had-
00:08:19.920 Elon Musk just discovered 2 million people.
00:08:22.180 Elon Musk.
00:08:22.520 2 million illegal-
00:08:23.680 Elon Musk.
00:08:24.520 I'm sorry.
00:08:25.340 Doge discovered 2 million people with social security numbers.
00:08:29.520 And they were illegals. 0.86
00:08:31.200 Okay.
00:08:31.560 With U.S. social security numbers.
00:08:32.620 Now, first of all, why?
00:08:34.680 Here's the answer.
00:08:35.980 Because employers take illegal workers and get them into the system because they have
00:08:41.600 to pay FICA for them.
00:08:43.260 And that's why they do it.
00:08:45.320 It's not a boogeyman.
00:08:46.340 It's not a gotcha.
00:08:47.520 You want to say they vote.
00:08:49.120 Every time they have looked at it, conservative organizations, they found 150, what they believed
00:08:55.880 may be people who shouldn't have voted, voted out of 27 million ballots.
00:09:01.420 Okay.
00:09:02.180 Maybe.
00:09:02.680 I'm not sure that number's right.
00:09:03.960 I'm not going to agree with that.
00:09:05.200 You got the guy right there.
00:09:06.080 I'm not sure, though, they have many millions, maybe, who are receiving social security benefits
00:09:11.680 who aren't even working at legal citizens.
00:09:13.760 They pay in.
00:09:15.360 They don't necessarily receive benefits.
00:09:16.780 They don't pay in.
00:09:17.520 Sure they do.
00:09:18.340 You have to.
00:09:18.840 When you hire them, you've got to pay the FICA.
00:09:21.700 Chris.
00:09:22.320 Google it.
00:09:23.000 How many people are here illegally doing landscaping jobs?
00:09:27.540 Sure, cleaning hotel rooms.
00:09:28.720 There's no question that there are people who aren't doing any of that.
00:09:31.440 I don't think they get the benefits more than they pay in, to be honest.
00:09:34.780 I don't think so.
00:09:35.660 Now, look, I have no problem with the border policy.
00:09:38.420 I was on this show and everywhere else saying that Biden handed the election to Trump.
00:09:42.480 I don't believe that Trump won.
00:09:43.820 I believe that Biden and the Democrats lost it.
00:09:46.840 And that issue was a big part of it.
00:09:49.200 And I think you've got to give him his props for doing what he said he was going to do.
00:09:54.360 I have no problem with any of that.
00:09:55.560 I'm saying there is no inconsistency for me in saying I have no problem with a real ID.
00:10:00.640 I'm telling you, I'm trying to find the application.
00:10:03.100 So then why don't we get that for everybody?
00:10:05.040 Let's get it for everybody.
00:10:05.880 I'm telling you, I have no problem with it.
00:10:08.080 I'm telling you politically what it'll be.
00:10:09.880 I know it will be.
00:10:10.620 But if we got everybody to get real IDs, everybody to get real IDs to vote, oof.
00:10:17.480 Can you imagine 16 years?
00:10:22.640 If they get real IDs for everybody to be able to vote?
00:10:27.240 If everybody has them, you have no issue.
00:10:28.460 It's that you won't give them to everybody.
00:10:30.360 That will be the problem is that you have to go in or you have to fill out the form.
00:10:35.820 It's like the thing with Social Security.
00:10:37.440 You just said, why are you worried about a boogeyman, Chris?
00:10:40.080 There is no boogeyman.
00:10:40.880 It's just an ID.
00:10:41.940 Why do you look like you're worried?
00:10:43.340 This is not one of those boogeyman stuff.
00:10:45.200 You're overthinking this, Chris.
00:10:46.060 I'm not worried.
00:10:46.700 I'm saying if everybody gets one, you don't have a problem.
00:10:49.540 The question is, who doesn't go and get it?
00:10:52.320 Then it's your job to sell them on going and getting the ID to get a vote.
00:10:56.200 It's not that big of a deal.
00:10:57.040 It's just a form.
00:10:57.960 They can do it.
00:10:59.140 You just said it's easy.
00:11:00.380 I'm glad that from a year ago to today, Chris now believes everyone needs an ID to vote.
00:11:05.500 I have not changed.
00:11:06.760 I told you what the arguments were against it.
00:11:09.860 I got two real IDs.
00:11:10.840 One in Florida, one in Texas.
00:11:11.700 Chris, your fellow liberals are going to be so pissed off that you're disenfranchising the illegal voters.
00:11:16.380 They work so hard to import.
00:11:18.360 You guys call me a liberal.
00:11:21.960 You know how hard we work to get 20 million illegal people into this country and now they're being disenfranchised, damn it?
00:11:26.820 You guys call me a liberal.
00:11:28.500 The same reason liberals use conservative is a bad word because it allows somebody to be your opponent.
00:11:34.420 I'm not your opponent.
00:11:35.180 I'm being reasonable.
00:11:36.180 I'm completely messing with you on this one.
00:11:37.740 No, he's not.
00:11:38.260 Tom's not messing with me.
00:11:39.160 Tom is dead serious.
00:11:39.880 Well, maybe a little.
00:11:40.240 You saw that photo of him?
00:11:41.140 He's serious all the time.
00:11:41.640 I'm going to put hands on Tom as soon as I see you.
00:11:43.340 Oh, my gosh.
00:11:44.380 You should.
00:11:44.560 You should.
00:11:45.300 It's like a handoff.
00:11:46.500 You know, it would be a handoff with you and Tom.
00:11:48.480 But the way you put hands on Don Lemon.
00:11:50.400 A lot of you have been asking about the Cigar Lounge that you want to come to it.
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00:11:55.840 This last Friday was the biggest event we ever had at the Cigar Lounge, which was fantastic.
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00:12:05.760 Thursday, we're not doing a podcast in a morning.
00:12:08.540 Thursday, we're doing a live podcast at our comedy club at Cigar Lounge, $59.90 live.
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